WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:05.839 It's Night Side with Dan Ray w b Z Coustin's Radio. 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.480 All right, we are moving into the portion of the 3 00:00:10.480 --> 00:00:13.599 program where you get to express your opinion on some 4 00:00:13.679 --> 00:00:18.679 issues that we pick. We promoted today two issues, one 5 00:00:18.719 --> 00:00:23.199 of which is the Secret Service on the grill dealing 6 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:27.359 with the July thirteenth attempted assassination, how that possibly could 7 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:32.960 have happened in Butler, Pennsylvania. And we also later on 8 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:40.159 tonight want to talk about the success of Israel's strike 9 00:00:40.560 --> 00:00:43.640 that took out the life of a Hesbalah leader in 10 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:49.240 Beirut and another strike in Tehran. Israel has not claimed 11 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:53.679 credit for that strike that took out a leader of Hamas, 12 00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:58.520 and of course there was now the Iran's supreme leader 13 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:04.159 threatening a strike on Israel. So who knows where this 14 00:01:04.319 --> 00:01:07.000 is all going to lead, but we're going to talk 15 00:01:07.040 --> 00:01:09.519 about that later. The one thing that I do want 16 00:01:09.560 --> 00:01:13.079 to add is the comments that were made today by 17 00:01:13.319 --> 00:01:19.719 Donald Trump at a meeting of black journalists, which to me, 18 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:27.040 uh was was just so unnecessary and counterproductive. You know, 19 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:35.040 Donald Trump survived an assassination attempt, but three weeks ago, 20 00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:39.040 now something like that. Three weeks ago on Saturday two 21 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:43.920 and a half weeks ago, came within a millimeter or 22 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:49.000 you know, came very close to to to taking his life. Now, 23 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:53.040 I know that he is bitter about a lot of things, 24 00:01:54.760 --> 00:01:59.760 and today or yesterday, the deputy director of the FBI, 25 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:09.280 under questioning, made it very clear that no doubt in 26 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:13.960 his mind. He's been questioned by Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana, 27 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:17.840 who can be very effective. Let me both the Secret 28 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:23.960 Service new director as well as the FBI deputy director. 29 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:28.000 His name is paul A Bati. I'm not sure how 30 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:32.120 it's pronounced. This is cut number four. There was a 31 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:35.120 moment in time a few days ago when the FBI 32 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:39.159 Director Christopher Ray said they were still trying to figure 33 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:43.479 out what had struck Donald Trump, and that bothered a 34 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:48.280 lot of people. It bothered me because whether it was 35 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:51.919 a piece of a bullet, or it was shrapnel from 36 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:56.360 a bullet that had bounced off of I don't know, 37 00:02:56.479 --> 00:03:00.000 you know, Cement, whether it was a glass from a teleprompt. 38 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:03.599 This was an assassination attempt. So I can see how 39 00:03:03.639 --> 00:03:07.199 Donald Trump might be upset, but he is. He just 40 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:11.919 has no self control. So this is a baby. The 41 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:17.080 FBI Deputy Director Underson hm. You know, direct questions from 42 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:21.199 Senator John Kennedy Kennedy of Louisiana, who's a he leve, 43 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:25.000 he leaves no doubt about what the the FBI's formal 44 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:27.520 conclusion is cut for. Please, Rob, is. 45 00:03:27.479 --> 00:03:31.560 There any doubt in your mind or in the collective 46 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:37.759 mind of the FBI that President Trump was shot in 47 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:43.400 the ear by a bullet fired by the assassin Crooks. 48 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:47.319 There is, Senator, There is absolutely no doubt in the 49 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:53.599 FBI's mind whether former President Trump was hit with the 50 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:56.039 with a bullet and wounded in the air. 51 00:03:56.199 --> 00:03:56.560 No doubt. 52 00:03:56.599 --> 00:03:59.439 There never has been. I've been part of this investigation 53 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:02.520 since the very beginning, and that has never been raised. 54 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:09.400 You're sure, Yes, it wasn't a space lacer No, it wasn't. 55 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:11.439 A murder hornet, absolutely not. 56 00:04:12.080 --> 00:04:15.199 It wasn't sasquatch, no center. 57 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:16.519 It was a bullet. 58 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:19.800 It was a bullet, Senator, fired by Crooks. 59 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:20.959 Yes, sir, that. 60 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:26.040 Hit President Trump in the year and almost killed h Okay, glad, 61 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:26.879 we'll cleared that up. 62 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:32.519 They did clear They did clear that up. So that 63 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:37.279 is again an unforced error by the FBI Director Christopher Ray. 64 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:44.720 The Secret Service, of course, is under intense criticism now 65 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:47.839 for allowing this to happen. There's a new video out 66 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:51.959 tonight that apparently was shot by one of the two 67 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:55.480 victims who have who were shot and who have survived, 68 00:04:56.040 --> 00:05:01.079 and it shows it shows the back. It's kind of 69 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:03.519 a view if you've seen it, a side back view 70 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:08.199 of Donald presborn President Trump at the podium and in 71 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:11.560 the distance you can see the building one hundred and 72 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:15.000 fifty yards away. Looks a little closer because of the 73 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:17.800 depth perception, but you see this figure up on top 74 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:19.399 of the building. That's the guy that was about to 75 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:27.399 shoot Donald Trump. And there was some really interesting conversations 76 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:30.759 questions back. This is Senator Josh Holly, he's a Republican 77 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:33.399 from the state of Missouri, and he's talking with the 78 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:38.360 new Interim Secret Service Director, Ronald Row and they get 79 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:40.600 into it pretty good. He's cut to a rub. 80 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:44.759 You need to investigate to know that there were critical 81 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:47.800 enough failures that some individuals ought to be held accountable. 82 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:49.360 I mean, what more do you need to know? 83 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:52.319 What I need to know is exactly what happened. And 84 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:54.319 I need my investigators. 85 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:54.360 To do their job. 86 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:57.720 And I can either cannot put my thumb on this 87 00:05:57.800 --> 00:06:00.959 scale otherwise what do you mean, put your thought the 88 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:04.639 objective theje You're asking me, Senator, to completely make a 89 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:08.720 rush to judgment about somebody failing. I acknowledge this was 90 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:09.439 a failure of. 91 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:11.839 Is it not primo facia that somebody has failed? 92 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:13.480 A former president was sure. 93 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:16.600 Sir, this could have been our Texas school book depository. 94 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:20.079 I have lost sleep over that for the last seventeen days. 95 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:21.480 Just like somebody. 96 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:24.399 I will tell you, Senator, I will tell you, Senator, 97 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:27.240 that I will not rush to judgment, that people will 98 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:30.639 be held accountable, and I will do so with integrity 99 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:34.199 and not rush to judgment and put people. 100 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:39.199 Unfairly persecuted. 101 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:48.519 Wow, that was interesting, an interesting exchange for sure. Uh. 102 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:52.040 It's not often you hear a US senator going after 103 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:56.839 the interim director of the Secret Service. It's interesting the 104 00:06:56.879 --> 00:07:01.439 phrase that some of you might remember that the interim 105 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:04.399 Secret Service director used. He said, I will not enter 106 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:07.639 into a rush to judgment. That phrase with the title 107 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:09.879 of a book by an author back in the nineteen 108 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:14.480 sixties about the Kennedy assassination, Mark Lane, who felt that 109 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:17.199 the Warren Commission had rushed to judgment. Took them about 110 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:20.079 ten months to come up with the Warren Commission report 111 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:23.639 in September of nineteen sixty four, if my memory serves, 112 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:28.560 which came back with the single shooter Lee Harvey Oswald theory. 113 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:32.759 And of course there are now so many theories about 114 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:36.439 the Kennedy assassination. And that is what sixty years later already, 115 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:42.360 and it's well, it just the sixtieth anniversary of John 116 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:48.360 Kennedy's assassination came past last November November twenty second, twenty 117 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:51.800 twenty three. So we have the Secret Service director under fire. 118 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:59.079 We have the Senator in this case, Haley, and also Kennedy, 119 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:04.600 two Republicans questioning, and I think Kennedy much more effectively 120 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:08.199 made his point that he wanted to get clear, uh 121 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:10.959 than than than Holly did. But it was it was 122 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:16.160 good radio, nonetheless. And then today we have Donald Trump 123 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:23.560 at a group of black journalists making I think, just 124 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:29.839 some total stupid, stupid comments. So we're gonna get to 125 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:32.919 all of this. We'll get the phone calls six one seven, 126 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:36.720 two thirty. The lines are already full, those three lines, 127 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:39.759 and the line that lines are available six one seven, nine, three, 128 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:43.039 one ten thirty. I will call them as I see them, 129 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:47.600 whether you agree with me or not on issues. I'm 130 00:08:47.639 --> 00:08:50.960 a lot closer to Donald Trump generally than I am 131 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:57.799 to Kamala Harris Uh. But in terms of the way 132 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:00.960 they each are componing them compting themselves. In the last 133 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:05.960 week or two, Donald Trump just you almost wonder does 134 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:08.200 he not want to be elected president? Is he looking 135 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:11.919 for the easy way out to have another close election 136 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:15.039 in which he loses and he can go off and 137 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:19.639 sull and cry. It is not It is not a campaign. 138 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:22.480 It is a campaign that is off the tracks right now, 139 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:24.279 and they better get their act together. For those of 140 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:27.519 you who are Trump supporters, we'll be back on night's side. 141 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:30.240 Let's open up these phone lines and get their conversations started. 142 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:35.440 Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 143 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:38.679 Night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. 144 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:42.759 All right, let's get some phone calls going here. We 145 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:48.000 will talk later tonight about what has gone on in 146 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:51.480 the Middle East in the last twenty four hours. That is, 147 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:58.440 the the killing of the Hamas leader Ishmael I hope 148 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:02.960 I've pronounced this right, hanayah Uh and a leader of 149 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:09.039 a senior military commander of Hespola Fawad uh Shook Shook Shook. 150 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:15.960 I think they that that situation over there is is 151 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:19.840 getting a little warmer. Let's let's follow it closely. Let 152 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:22.320 me go to Ken down in Florida, first tonight, Ken, welcome, 153 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:23.600 first up tonight of. 154 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:27.240 Uh. 155 00:10:27.919 --> 00:10:30.559 I'm having trouble hearing you again. Speak your phone if 156 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:32.080 that's okay, Uh. 157 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:34.320 Let's see. I give it a shot, Give it a shot. 158 00:10:34.679 --> 00:10:36.799 I don't know why you're not hearing me, Rob, Rob 159 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:37.320 should have been. 160 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:39.639 Able to phone. Can you hear me? Is that okay? 161 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:42.840 I can still hear you? You go right ahead, Ken, yep, okay. 162 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:44.759 I don't know. 163 00:10:44.919 --> 00:10:47.919 With Trump, I called you after January sixth and said 164 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:48.879 I was done with him. 165 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:49.679 Yeah. 166 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:54.440 And again he's just not a likable person. And I 167 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:58.159 don't think he is uh making comments like he did 168 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:00.960 today to get out of the race. I just think 169 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:05.480 he can't help himself. And I wonder about his advisors, 170 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:08.879 someone like a Kelly and Conway or I mean, they 171 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:13.200 must get in his face and tell him that, you, 172 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:17.240 you know, whether it's an hairdresser or somebody say you 173 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:19.480 can't you know, call your hair like that, or you 174 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:22.240 can't make comments like that. Do they do they tell 175 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:24.080 him that? Or can he listens? 176 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:25.840 I do no, No for those who have. For those 177 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:28.679 who haven't heard the comment, ken, let me let me 178 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:33.399 play one of them. Here, he's speaking to a group 179 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:37.440 of black journalists. I believe it's in Chicago. I could 180 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:39.679 I could be wrong on that, but we I believe 181 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:44.399 it's in Chicago. And an ABC News correspondent, Rachel Scott 182 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:46.000 asked the first question. 183 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:51.440 And I thought he was at antagonistic to be honest 184 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:52.080 in the beginning. 185 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:54.559 So well, it was a tough question. It was a 186 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:57.440 tough question. Okay, it wasn't like, oh, gee, great to 187 00:11:57.480 --> 00:12:00.879 see you. How is your fly? It's it's well, let's 188 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:03.600 just play, let people respond to it. And then he 189 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:09.679 just goes off in my opinion unnecessarily, but hey, obviously 190 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:12.440 it's my opinion doesn't really count too much. This is 191 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:13.519 cut a rob. 192 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:16.759 Well, first of all, I don't think I've ever been 193 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:21.480 asked a question so in such a horrible manner. A 194 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:25.519 first question. You don't even say, hello, how are you? 195 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:27.080 Are you with ABC? 196 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:30.600 Because I think they're a fake news network, a terrible network. 197 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:37.039 And I think it's disgraceful that I came here in 198 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:41.120 good spirit. I love the black population of this country. 199 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:44.480 I've done so much for the black population of this country, 200 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:52.000 including employment including Opportunity Zones with Senator Tim Scott of 201 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:55.360 South Carolina, which is one of the greatest programs ever 202 00:12:55.519 --> 00:13:00.000 for black workers and black entrepreneurs. I've done so much 203 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:04.000 much and you know, and I say this, Historically, black 204 00:13:04.039 --> 00:13:07.600 colleges and universities were out of money. They were stone 205 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:10.720 call broke, and I saved them and I gave them 206 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:12.879 long term financing. 207 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:13.879 And nobody else was doing it. 208 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:17.200 I think it's a very rude introduction. I don't know 209 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:20.240 exactly why you would do something like that. 210 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:27.200 Yeah, I think you could have handled the question a 211 00:13:27.240 --> 00:13:29.120 little more diplomatically. 212 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:29.600 Ken, I agree. 213 00:13:29.879 --> 00:13:34.000 I agree, Dan, But she she was clearly she had 214 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:38.799 a clear dislike for him. In her tone of the 215 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:43.679 question was probably set up to anger him. And you 216 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:46.000 didn't play that part. But I've heard it multiple times 217 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:48.840 today and you know, it's set him up a little bit. 218 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:53.639 I think she was very unprofessional and biased, and she 219 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:56.440 showed her through colors, so to speak. 220 00:13:57.200 --> 00:14:03.799 Okay, so you then, I guess, I guess the point 221 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:07.759 that I'm trying to make is if you're trying to 222 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:12.000 win an election and you know that these sorts of 223 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:16.000 missteps are going to be called out and maybe and 224 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:18.679 even in some cases taken out of context. I do 225 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:22.679 agree with it that the question was of fairy direct question, 226 00:14:23.159 --> 00:14:29.799 but I've asked questions of politicians, including politicians running for president. 227 00:14:29.919 --> 00:14:32.919 I remember I asked Bill Clinton. This would have been 228 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:35.840 December of nineteen ninety one. I had him on set 229 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:39.879 for a half hour and my first question was governor. 230 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:42.679 A year ago, when you were in for reelection in Arkansas, 231 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:45.519 you pledged to the people of Arkansas that you'd serve 232 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:48.240 a full four year term. And he answered me, he says, 233 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:51.360 that's right, that's right. And I said, now you're running 234 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:54.679 for president, and in the unlikely event you get elected president, 235 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:56.960 you will not be able to serve in both offices 236 00:14:57.000 --> 00:14:59.600 at the same time. That's right. So I said, did 237 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:01.919 you miss lead the people of Arkansas I lived a 238 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:06.080 year ago? And he handled it. He said, well, you know, really, 239 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:09.240 not not exactly I meant it when I said it. 240 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:12.919 Yeah, And I said, you were respectful, and you're you're 241 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:17.320 a much more polished. She came out angry and fired 242 00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:20.519 right at him, like she's he's a former president, show 243 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:24.840 a little respect, and you know, at least be uh 244 00:15:25.559 --> 00:15:27.200 a little bit down the middle of the road when 245 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:31.159 you're asking the question. She clearly dislikes him, and it 246 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:34.960 was obvious in her questioning, and uh, that set him off. 247 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:38.159 And I agree, I agree with him being a little defensive, 248 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:40.639 but you know, it's Trump and he does go over. 249 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:46.480 So okay, my question is this Okay, whether or not 250 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:51.960 she was if she asked a question could have been 251 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:55.679 asked better. What let doesn't matter now he answers that way. 252 00:15:56.120 --> 00:16:00.519 Does his answer help him or hurt him? It probably 253 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:03.120 helps him with his base, but does it help him 254 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:06.399 or hurt him with undecided voters, voters on the fence? 255 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:11.200 Well, what black voters or voters of color, whatever term 256 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:13.759 we want to use. I think he's made his point 257 00:16:13.799 --> 00:16:16.120 in the past that he's what he's done for historical 258 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:21.200 black colleges. Sure, you know, black entrepreneurs, opportunity zones. He 259 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:23.679 made that point and that's what he's done, and that's 260 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:29.360 why he's rising. The poll numbers show that black voters 261 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:34.200 are increasingly going to vote for him more than any 262 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:36.840 other Republican. So I think he made his point. 263 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:39.480 Okay, So let me ask you this. I'll ask you 264 00:16:39.519 --> 00:16:43.440 the question, the same question a little differently. If there was, 265 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:46.320 if there are, and I'm sure there are black voters 266 00:16:46.720 --> 00:16:50.279 who are on the fence, okay, and who is still 267 00:16:50.279 --> 00:16:52.639 making up their mind? Do you think he pulled many 268 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:55.840 black voters or white voters who are on the fence 269 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:59.399 over to his side of the aisle with that answer? 270 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:04.319 Again, to quote the great UH agent what's his name? 271 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:10.319 James Carvell, economy stupid. We're all feeling the economy. That's 272 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:14.759 not whether I'm down in Massachusetts people people are feeling 273 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:16.559 them when they go buy groceries gas. 274 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:20.519 So my question, can you duck in my question? Which 275 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:22.200 and you're doing a good job at it, My question 276 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:24.960 is in no sense no, I mean it in the 277 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:27.400 sense and please take this respectfully. What I'm saying to 278 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:31.279 you is that question, okay, That answer to that question 279 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:34.119 will be played for people across the country. 280 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:35.119 Right. 281 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:38.960 Is there anyone who listens to that question and or 282 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:42.359 listens to the answer and says, you know what, Trump's 283 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:44.319 my man, I'm now with Trump for that. 284 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:47.480 I don't think yes, because if you're on the fence 285 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:51.039 with Trump versus Harris, I can't see that you're either 286 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:53.839 one way or the other in his comments. You know 287 00:17:53.880 --> 00:17:57.480 what you're getting with Trump, you and against those comments. 288 00:17:57.559 --> 00:17:59.880 Will agree to disagree on that. We will agree to this, 289 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:02.880 agree on that one. I mean, if you're what you're 290 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:05.559 telling me is this, there's not a single American who 291 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:08.039 at this point has not made up their mind about 292 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:09.279 this race. That's what I'm hearing here. 293 00:18:09.400 --> 00:18:12.920 So they're gonna be But I mean, I think the 294 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:16.119 vast majority has made up their mind. Okay, and independent. 295 00:18:16.200 --> 00:18:18.559 I mean you're either come on now, you've got an 296 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:22.240 extreme leftist and you've got Trump, who's uh, he's in 297 00:18:22.279 --> 00:18:24.640 and of his own category. So I think if you 298 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:28.319 haven't made up your mind now, I'd be shocked. 299 00:18:29.160 --> 00:18:31.680 Okay, Well, maybe we'll hear from some people who haven't 300 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:33.839 made up their mind. I don't know. Ken has always 301 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:34.839 I appreciate. 302 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:37.880 You taking the time say allow to Boston for me. 303 00:18:38.200 --> 00:18:40.319 I absolutely will. I know it is the city that 304 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:41.799 you love. Thank you very much. Can't finciate. 305 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:44.200 I will maybe up there this fall, but we'll see. 306 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:44.480 All right. 307 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:45.720 Thank here, Thanks Tucson. 308 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:48.279 I got to take a break here. It's news time 309 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:49.960 at the bottom of the hour six one seven, two 310 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:55.160 four ten thirty, six one seven, nine, ten thirty. If 311 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:57.599 you did hear this comment, today, or even if you 312 00:18:57.640 --> 00:19:00.920 heard the question and the comment, I'd love to get 313 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:07.039 your reaction to it, and let's get the conversation going again. 314 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:09.160 I think the story that I was intending to start 315 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:11.480 on today was the fact that the Secret Service is 316 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:15.599 now pointing fingers at local police, local police appointing fingers 317 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:20.079 at Secret Service. At some point, I hope we figure 318 00:19:20.119 --> 00:19:25.119 out who dropped the ball. Maybe we will, maybe we won't. 319 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:27.680 Join the conversation. Come right back on Nightside. 320 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:33.599 If you're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's 321 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:34.240 news radio. 322 00:19:34.559 --> 00:19:37.519 All right, let's go to Larry in New York. Larry, 323 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:38.519 you were next on Nightsiger. 324 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:42.799 Right ahead, Dan, good evening. You know, as somebody who 325 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:45.960 has for the last forty or fifty years, as I 326 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:52.240 have watched and seen dignitary protection, this thing is needs 327 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:56.640 much more perspective. There's no question the Secret Service made 328 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:00.960 some mistakes, but the reality is is that the local, 329 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:04.279 the state police, the local sheriff's department, they need a 330 00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:07.920 much closer look now. A couple of nights ago, ABC's 331 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:11.440 Aaron Katski, who's an excellent reporter, sat down on their 332 00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:14.400 Evening News with six of the members of the local snipers. 333 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:16.799 Now I saw that I happen to see. I know 334 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:18.000 exactly what you're going to say. 335 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:22.960 Now, these guys, these guys were responsible for providing security 336 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:25.640 in the secondary security zone, as you know, because you've 337 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:27.880 done it for years, as have I. You know, the 338 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:31.599 first zone, the tight zone is run by secret Service, 339 00:20:31.640 --> 00:20:34.559 the local cops, whether it's New York City PD, whether 340 00:20:34.599 --> 00:20:40.359 it's Boston PD, they coordinate and run the secondary security zone. Now, 341 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:44.599 these guys told told Katski that they had eyes on 342 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:48.799 this guy for more than ninety minutes, and all they 343 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:53.200 did was send texts to people. All they did was 344 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:56.160 send a picture of them. Nobody made a phone call. 345 00:20:56.319 --> 00:21:00.759 Nobody called the sheriff's department, their sheriff's supervisors. Nobody got 346 00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:03.200 on the radio and said, hey, Dan, Larry, here, there's 347 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:06.240 a guy down by the fence over there. He doesn't 348 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:09.160 look right. Let's put the grabs on him. I mean, 349 00:21:09.200 --> 00:21:12.920 these guys are these guys were the Barney Fights of security. 350 00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:14.799 It was crazy, you know, I'll tell you. 351 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:18.000 And everybody's saying I watched the same interview with Katurski, 352 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:21.559 and I came away with a very different impression. Okay, 353 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:24.480 the impression that I had from the interview was that 354 00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:27.119 the Secret Service blew them off on a meeting they 355 00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:30.680 were supposed to have. Okay, that that's the and that 356 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.440 the instructions from the Secret Service as to what their 357 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:38.559 area's responsibility are or were u was was inadequate. I 358 00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:43.759 mean Secret Service. You're right, Secret Service protects the protecte 359 00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:47.279 in this case forming President Donald Trump, but they have 360 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:50.799 to let the locals know. These weren't guys who were 361 00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:53.599 directing traffic. These were guys who were supposed to be 362 00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:57.519 part of the outer perimeter protection. 363 00:21:57.799 --> 00:21:59.039 And that's right. 364 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:02.000 That's when I on the interview, not to disagree with him, 365 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:04.759 but just what I saw was that it was Kuturski 366 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:08.720 seemed surprised that there was no communication prior to the event. 367 00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:11.799 Well, that's a question that needs to be raised. But 368 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:14.640 at the same time, these guys aren't amateurs. These guys 369 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:17.480 are snipers. They're highly trained, they've been in the business 370 00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:19.799 for a long time. And again, the bottom line is 371 00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:23.880 the Secret Service protects the close end first zone. These guys. 372 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:29.559 So again they saw somebody who didn't look right, and 373 00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:35.039 nobody said, come on, police officers, snipers whatever. Out on 374 00:22:35.079 --> 00:22:38.079 the street. You see somebody suspicious, you go put the 375 00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:40.079 grabs on him, you take a look at them. The 376 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:44.160 best these guys could do was send texts. 377 00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:46.400 And let me play. Let me play this somebody if 378 00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:49.799 good for you. This is the Secret Service Director, now 379 00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:53.319 the interim Secret Service Director, Ronald Rowe. He makes reference 380 00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:57.000 in this sound cut to a problem with the cellular connection. 381 00:22:57.519 --> 00:23:02.400 It almost sounded as if he was saying that the connection, 382 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:07.519 the cell phone connection between maybe Secret Service and these agencies. 383 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:09.799 It's unclear to me, but it's an interesting comment that 384 00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:12.000 I heard yesterday. Cut number five, Rob. 385 00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:16.359 That is something that I briefed in the closed door 386 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:19.599 and again something that has cost me a lot of 387 00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:23.759 sleep because of the eventual outcome of the assailant. That 388 00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:27.240 what if we had a geolocated him because that counter 389 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:31.920 UAS platform had been up. It is something that I 390 00:23:32.039 --> 00:23:36.920 have struggled with to understand and I have no I 391 00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:39.960 have no explanation for it. It is something that I 392 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:43.960 feel as though we could have perhaps found him, we 393 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:47.519 could have maybe stopped him. Maybe on that particular day 394 00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:51.039 he would have decided this isn't the day to do it, 395 00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:54.400 because law enforcement just found me flying my drone. People 396 00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:58.039 fly drones all the time on the peripheries of our sites, 397 00:23:58.839 --> 00:24:00.319 and we go out and we talked to and we 398 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:04.240 ascertain what their intentions are on this day in particular 399 00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:08.799 because of the connectivity challenge. As you noted, there was 400 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:11.680 a delay and he flew his drone at three point 401 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:13.920