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<v Speaker 1>The year is seventeen twenty five. You're a sailor chopped

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<v Speaker 1>on a merchant ship, and during backbreaking work and brutal conditions,

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<v Speaker 1>your quarters, cramped and crawling with disease, are shared with

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<v Speaker 1>enslaved people, Your wages paltry if they ever come, and

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<v Speaker 1>the whip is never far from reach.

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<v Speaker 2>Then over the horizon a ship emerges, It's black flag

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<v Speaker 2>billowing in the wind. As it closes in, you see them,

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<v Speaker 2>a crew of outlaws, men and women of every race,

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<v Speaker 2>clad and stolen finery and ragged silks. They shout, laugh

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<v Speaker 2>and rifle through cargo. There's no fear in their faces,

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<v Speaker 2>only defiance, only freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them calls to you, why break your back

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<v Speaker 1>for a captain who sees you as nothing? Take your share,

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<v Speaker 1>take your life.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a choice, stay and die defending the profits

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<v Speaker 2>of your employers, or leap into a life of rebellion

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<v Speaker 2>on the high seas.

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<v Speaker 1>This is working class history.

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<v Speaker 3>Ala Martina ha Oh, bela child, bela child, bela child,

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<v Speaker 3>Chochio Lamatino.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we get started, you may have noticed there's a

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<v Speaker 2>new voice with me today who also doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 2>British accent. My friend and colleague Audrey is here and

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<v Speaker 2>I want to let her introduce herself.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi. I'm Audre Kemp. I'm a journalist and community organizer.

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<v Speaker 1>I've spent years covering labor and power, and I'm excited

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<v Speaker 2>link in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, greetings, my name is Marcus Reddicker, and I am

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<v Speaker 4>the author of a book called Villains of All Nations.

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<v Speaker 4>Atlantic Pirates in the Golden Age, published by Beacon Press

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<v Speaker 4>in two thousand and four.

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus describes in his book that to the authorities of

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<v Speaker 2>their time, pirates were seen as dangerous outlaws. The term

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<v Speaker 2>pirate comes from a Greek word meaning one who attacks ships,

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<v Speaker 2>and Roman law labeled them quote enemies of all mankind.

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<v Speaker 1>By the early eighteenth century, piracy had become a crisis

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<v Speaker 1>for European empires. During this time, an estimated five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>to ten thousand pirates prowled the seas, seizing hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>merchant ships, looting cargo and disrupting trades so severely that

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<v Speaker 1>insurance rates skyrocketed and navy scrambled to hunt them down.

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<v Speaker 2>And they didn't just take ships, they took riches that

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<v Speaker 2>rivaled the fortunes of entire colonies.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the most legendary pirate raids took place in

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen twenty one, when John Taylor and Olivier le Vassel

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<v Speaker 1>seized the Portuguese treasure ship Nosus Sonora Dicabo off the

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<v Speaker 1>coast of Yennom Island. The hall diamonds, gold, and other

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<v Speaker 1>treasures worth around two hundred million US dollars in today's currency,

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<v Speaker 1>making it one of the richest pirate captures in history.

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<v Speaker 2>But piracy wasn't just about plunder. It was a response

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<v Speaker 2>to the brutal conditions of early capitalism.

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<v Speaker 1>Global trade enriched merchants and shipowners, but sailors were left behind.

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<v Speaker 1>They were underpaid, overworked, and eventually disposable.

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<v Speaker 2>Many turned to piracy not just to survive, but to

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<v Speaker 2>escape a system that had abandoned them.

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<v Speaker 1>The pirates strived to build something new, a society where

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<v Speaker 1>they elected their own leaders, shared their plunder equally, and

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<v Speaker 1>lived on their own terms.

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<v Speaker 2>And their rebellion would define what we now call the

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<v Speaker 2>Golden Age of Piracy, spanning from the sixteen fifties to

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<v Speaker 2>the seventeen thirties. During this era, figures like Blackbeard, Bartholomew Blackbart, Roberts,

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<v Speaker 2>and Anne Bonnie made their names. Roberts, who's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most successful pirates ever, captured over four hundred ships

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<v Speaker 2>throughout his career.

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<v Speaker 1>Anne Bonnie and Mary Reid, both women fought alongside their crewmates,

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<v Speaker 1>disguising themselves in men's clothing to claim their place in

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<v Speaker 1>battle and defy the gender norms of their time.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was Blackbeard, who set his own beard

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<v Speaker 2>on fire to terrify his enemies.

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<v Speaker 4>The Golden Age of Piracy looms very large in the

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<v Speaker 4>global imagination, but in fact it's not actually a single

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<v Speaker 4>unitary thing. There were three distinct generations of pirates within

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<v Speaker 4>the Golden Age. The first was in the sixteen sixties

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<v Speaker 4>and sixteen seventies. An emblematic figure here is Sir Henry Morgan,

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<v Speaker 4>and in fact he stole so much silver from the

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<v Speaker 4>Spanish and took it to Jamaica that he was knighted.

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<v Speaker 4>He became Sir Henry Morgan and became Lieutenant governor of

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<v Speaker 4>this incipient slave colony.

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<v Speaker 2>Over time, piracy evolved, the motivations, targets, and even the

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<v Speaker 2>way pirates operated changed from one generation to the next.

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<v Speaker 1>The first generation of pirates were called buccaneers, which operated

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<v Speaker 1>primarily in the Caribbean during the mid seventeenth century.

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<v Speaker 4>And that word comes from a style of capturing, cooking,

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<v Speaker 4>and eating wild game on the various Caribbean islands on

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<v Speaker 4>something that the French called a bucan, and so they

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<v Speaker 4>became buccaneers because many of the early buccaneers lived this

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<v Speaker 4>kind of roving life from one island to another.

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<v Speaker 1>The buccaneers mainly targeted the Spanish Empire, stealing enormous wealth

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<v Speaker 1>from the Spanish crown and weakening Spain's grip on the

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<v Speaker 1>New World. England saw an opportunity, granting privateers legal cover

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<v Speaker 1>to attack Spanish vessels.

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<v Speaker 4>The second generation is where you see a change in

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<v Speaker 4>the attitude from above. This is the generation of the

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen nineties. There are two emblematic figures for this generation.

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<v Speaker 4>One is Henry Avery, who captured a part of the

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<v Speaker 4>treasure fleet of one of the rulers of India and

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<v Speaker 4>got away with a massive heist of jewels and wealth,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was never caught, so Henry Avery became kind

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<v Speaker 4>of a folk hero.

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<v Speaker 2>Another key figure of this era was William Kidd, born

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<v Speaker 2>in Dundee, Scotland in sixteen fifty four. Kid made a

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<v Speaker 2>name for himself as a privateer in New York. In

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen ninety five, he got a royal commission to hunt

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<v Speaker 2>down pirates and enemy ships in the Indian Ocean as

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<v Speaker 2>part of England's plan to protect its trade routes.

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<v Speaker 4>But when he got there, far beyond the reach of

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<v Speaker 4>royal authority, he actually turned pirate himself, and this was

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<v Speaker 4>a very big embarrassment for some of his wealthy English

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<v Speaker 4>merchant backers. So he eventually was brought back to London

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<v Speaker 4>and in an act that symbolized the changing attitude of

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<v Speaker 4>the English government towards piracy, William Kidd was hanged. So

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<v Speaker 4>from now on, piracy is not going to be acceptable.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason for these changing attitudes about piracy, like most

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<v Speaker 2>things in history, was money.

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<v Speaker 4>In the late seventeenth century, one of the things that's

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<v Speaker 4>happening is that the Caribbean colonies of England and other

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<v Speaker 4>countries are producing massive amounts of sugar. The sugar is

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<v Speaker 4>emerging as a very important commodity in the economy of

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<v Speaker 4>Atlantic capitalism.

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<v Speaker 1>By seventeen hundred, piracy had become a massive thorn in

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<v Speaker 1>the side of colonial powers like England, France, and Spain.

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<v Speaker 1>Pirate's targeted show the backbone of the colonial economy, driving

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<v Speaker 1>up security and insurance costs and causing disruptions so severe

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<v Speaker 1>that the losses outweighed the cost of competing with one another.

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<v Speaker 2>Faced with a shured threat, these powers found less incentive

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<v Speaker 2>to fight each other with privateers and instead unite it

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<v Speaker 2>against the common enemy, ushering in a new era of piracy.

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<v Speaker 4>So the third generation of pirates are active in the

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<v Speaker 4>seventeen teens and seventeen twenties, and what's especially important about

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<v Speaker 4>them is that there are no longer any wealthy people involved.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the proletariant phase. This is the phase in

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<v Speaker 4>which common sailors get control of an entire generation of plundering,

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<v Speaker 4>and this, of course fuels all of the imperial governments

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<v Speaker 4>to catch as many of these people as they can

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<v Speaker 4>and to hang them up in gibbets at the entrance

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<v Speaker 4>of every harbor as a deliberate act of terror, meant

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<v Speaker 4>to send a message to common sailors. If you turn pirate,

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<v Speaker 4>we will hunt you down and we will kill you.

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<v Speaker 1>It was during this new proletarian, working class era of

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<v Speaker 1>piracy when pirates started to see their very existence as

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<v Speaker 1>a rebellion against the hierarchies of capital and began building

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<v Speaker 1>their own, more egalitarian system. Their ships became spaces of democracy, fairness,

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<v Speaker 1>and unity, directly challenging the systems they had escaped, and.

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<v Speaker 4>This is one of the things that they were known for,

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<v Speaker 4>and they were known for this in their own day.

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<v Speaker 4>In other words, the elites who are hunting them down

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<v Speaker 4>to kill them are going after them not only because

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<v Speaker 4>they disrupted the commerce which was so valuable to these

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<v Speaker 4>European imperial powers, but also because they posed a challenge

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<v Speaker 4>to the standard way of running a ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Life aboard a pirate ship existed in stark contrast to

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<v Speaker 2>other more common jobs at sea, like being in the

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<v Speaker 2>navy or sailing aboard a merchant vessel.

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<v Speaker 4>So that the Royal Navy, for example, was very far

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<v Speaker 4>from democratic. It was a violent, brutal, disciplinary regime. Similarly,

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<v Speaker 4>the merchant shipping industry captains had tremendously concentrated powers, and pirates,

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<v Speaker 4>in their democratic and egalitarian ways, posed real challenges to

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<v Speaker 4>those other ways of organizing maritime labor.

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<v Speaker 1>And the pirate's ability to not only imagine a better

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<v Speaker 1>world for themselves, but to actually try and build one

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<v Speaker 1>captured the imagination of the public as well.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is the last generation of the Golden Age.

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<v Speaker 4>It's dramatic. It was something that everybody wanted to read about.

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<v Speaker 4>Whenever the authorities captured a group of pirates, they would

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<v Speaker 4>be hangings that were public spectacles, but vast numbers of

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<v Speaker 4>people would turn out, many of them to cheer the

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<v Speaker 4>pirates because they were working class heroes.

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<v Speaker 2>But in order to understand what makes the piracy of

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<v Speaker 2>the eighteenth century so radical, first we have to understand

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<v Speaker 2>transatlantic trade and the burgeoning capitalism of the sixteenth century.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the period in which England is leading the

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<v Speaker 4>way and moving out into the world, actually following Spain,

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<v Speaker 4>who had a great deal of success in extracting gold

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<v Speaker 4>and silver from the indigenous peoples and their lands in

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<v Speaker 4>the Americas. But along come the Dutch and the English.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't find gold and silver, but they found something

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<v Speaker 4>even better. They found things like sugar and tobacco and

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<v Speaker 4>rice and these commodities that are going to be the

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<v Speaker 4>lifeblood of the Atlantic economy.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of historians say the most important machine to

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<v Speaker 1>the rise of capitalism is a steam engine, but Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>has a different theory.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the tall ship, which is actually a piece of

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<v Speaker 4>technology that permitted Europe to conquer the rest of the

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<v Speaker 4>world and to create these vast bluewater empires. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>the maritime powers in the sixteenth seventeenth, eighteenth century occupy

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<v Speaker 4>only a tiny part of the Eurasian land mass on

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<v Speaker 4>the western end. But think about where those languages are

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<v Speaker 4>spoken today, English, French, Dutch, Spanish. These are global languages

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<v Speaker 4>and this reflects the power of those ships as instruments

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<v Speaker 4>of conquest.

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<v Speaker 2>And those ships can't sail around the world without the

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<v Speaker 2>labor of highly skilled and trained sailors who could handle

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<v Speaker 2>everything from navigation and rigging to carpentry. Their expertise kept

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<v Speaker 2>the ships running and the trade routes alive.

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<v Speaker 4>The ships don't sail by themselves. There's a labor issue here.

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<v Speaker 4>So in this context, the growth of these empires and

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<v Speaker 4>the growth of capitalism as a system has several crucial components.

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<v Speaker 4>One of these is what Marks called primitive accumulation of capital,

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<v Speaker 4>by that meaning the separation of workers from their means

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<v Speaker 4>of subsistence. This happens through the enclosure movement in England.

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<v Speaker 4>It happens through the slave trade in West Africa, where

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<v Speaker 4>many millions of Africans, through war and other forms of dispossession,

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<v Speaker 1>the world had ever seen. The system depended on the

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<v Speaker 1>exploitation of millions of enslaved Africans, funneling immense wealth into

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<v Speaker 4>So we're talking talking about massive amounts of money to

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<v Speaker 4>produces for the world market. That's just the way it works.

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<v Speaker 2>By seventeen hundred. European empires had built vast wealth through

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<v Speaker 1>This war, which lasted from seventeen oh two to seventeen thirteen,

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<v Speaker 4>And during that time, one of the ways that European

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<v Speaker 4>powers waged war against each other is through something called privateering,

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<v Speaker 4>a bill of mark by a king or his minions

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<v Speaker 4>to wage war on behalf of the king against the

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<v Speaker 4>king's enemies, so to attack Spanish ships if you're English,

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<v Speaker 4>or even French ships. That is essentially legal piracy.

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<v Speaker 2>These privateers made a lot of money, but.

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<v Speaker 4>When the war comes to an end, two things happen

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<v Speaker 4>that are really important to understanding the rise of piracy. First,

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<v Speaker 4>all those privateers are demobilized. In other words, once there's peacetime,

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<v Speaker 4>the king can't give out these letters of mark there's

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<v Speaker 4>no legal piracy going on. And secondly, the big navies

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<v Speaker 4>of these European empires also demobilized, so thousands of sailors

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<v Speaker 4>are basically paid off. Sometimes actually they're builked of their wages,

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<v Speaker 4>but they leave the ships and the navies move from

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<v Speaker 4>much higher level of mobilization to a much lower level.

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<v Speaker 1>That left the port cities of the Atlantic. Teaming was

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<v Speaker 2>The ruling class responded to this labor surplus the way

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<v Speaker 2>it always does.

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<v Speaker 4>This army of the unemployed has very palpable impact on

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<v Speaker 4>the way sailors who do have jobs are treated. They

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<v Speaker 4>are treated much worse. They are treated more violently by

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<v Speaker 4>the captains. Their wages go down. Wartime wages for sailors

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<v Speaker 4>are pretty decent, but once there's this massive glut of labor,

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<v Speaker 4>the wages come way down to a third of the

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<v Speaker 4>level of wartime. The quality of food declines, the use

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<v Speaker 1>Thousands of seasoned sailors, many of them former privateers, were broke,

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<v Speaker 1>angry and out of options, so they did what they

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<v Speaker 1>knew best. They took to the sea. But this time

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't sailing under a king's banner. They were sailing

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<v Speaker 1>under the black flag.

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<v Speaker 4>Pirates in the third generation of the Golden Age were

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<v Speaker 4>just ordinary working sailors. They were not aristocrats who had

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<v Speaker 4>the colonial governor's daughter. You know, it's nothing like that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just ordinary working people whose lives are really difficult,

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<v Speaker 4>especially in this period after the War of Spanish.

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<v Speaker 2>Succession, there were two primary ways a sailor could become

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<v Speaker 4>The way that most people think that you become a

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<v Speaker 4>pirate is through mutiny. That you basically organize an opposition

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<v Speaker 4>within a ship a merchant ship almost always, and you

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<v Speaker 4>rise up and you capture the ship, you create your

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<v Speaker 4>own black flag, and you sail off toward the horizon

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<v Speaker 4>as a new pirate crew. But that's probably a relatively

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<v Speaker 4>small percentage of the people who become pirates.

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<v Speaker 1>More often, however, pirates didn't have to take over a ship.

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<v Speaker 1>They just had to capture one, and for mistreated navy

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<v Speaker 1>or merchant sailors this could be an opportunity, and.

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<v Speaker 4>When pirates captured a prize vessel, they would perform a

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<v Speaker 4>very interesting ritual. They would come on board, and they

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't start plundering right away. They would call all the

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<v Speaker 4>sailors up on deck, the sailors of the captured ship.

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<v Speaker 4>They would bring the captain up on deck to face

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<v Speaker 2>And then the pirates, all of whom used to be

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<v Speaker 2>common sailors like the ones aboard the captured ship, and

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<v Speaker 2>all of whom had been whipped, starved, and cheated out

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<v Speaker 2>of their wages by merchant or navy. Captains would ask

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<v Speaker 2>a question that would change the fate of everyone on board.

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<v Speaker 1>How does your captain treat you?

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<v Speaker 4>And if they say, our captain treats us very badly.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't pay us our proper wages, he doesn't give

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<v Speaker 4>us the food we're supposed to get, and worst of all,

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<v Speaker 4>he beats us all the time. If sailors step forward

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<v Speaker 4>and say that in that moment, when the pirates have

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<v Speaker 4>just captured their ship, that captain is in a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of trouble. Because pirates will act as avengers for their

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<v Speaker 4>seafaring brothers, and they will give that captain a whipping,

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<v Speaker 4>usually in the very place where he would tie up

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<v Speaker 4>sailors to whip them. That tie him up in the

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<v Speaker 4>same place and give him the beating of his life,

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<v Speaker 4>and in some instances they killed him. In some instances

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<v Speaker 4>they gave the captain a whipping and then threw him

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<v Speaker 4>overboard and especially bad cases.

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<v Speaker 2>But the pirates weren't just out for vengeance. They had

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<v Speaker 2>a system, a rough kind of justice.

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<v Speaker 4>If a sailor should step forward and said, our captain

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<v Speaker 4>is a decent man. He treats us well, he pays

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<v Speaker 4>us our wages. In that case, the pirates would not

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<v Speaker 4>only not punish the captain, they might give him money.

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<v Speaker 1>One famous example of this was William Snellgrave, a merchant

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<v Speaker 1>captain captured by pirates in seventeen nineteen off the coast

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<v Speaker 1>of Sierra Leone. Despite being severely injured in the attack,

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<v Speaker 1>he was spared, likely because his crew respected.

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<v Speaker 4>Him, and the pirates gave him money and said, go

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<v Speaker 4>home to London and show the merchants what happens when

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<v Speaker 4>a captain treats his sailors well. So they would reward

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<v Speaker 4>the decent captains, and they would punish the much more

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<v Speaker 4>numerous violent captains.

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<v Speaker 2>And once the captain's fate was decided, the Pirates turned

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<v Speaker 2>to the rest of the crew with another offer.

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<v Speaker 4>The pirates when they're getting ready to depart the prize ship,

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<v Speaker 4>they said, okay, boys, who's with us? Do you want

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<v Speaker 4>to come on board and join the pirate ship? And

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<v Speaker 4>believe me, if you spoke out a bit against your captain,

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<v Speaker 4>you had better go with the pirates because there was

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<v Speaker 4>going to be trouble if you didn't. So this is

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<v Speaker 4>the way they recruited people by doing things in defense

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<v Speaker 4>of the common sailor, and also in telling them, look,

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to join a ship where we vote on everything.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to elect our captain, We're going to elect

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<v Speaker 4>a quartermaster to keep an eye on the captain to

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<v Speaker 4>make sure he treats everybody fairly, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>divide up everything we get very equally. It's not going

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<v Speaker 4>to be the way it is on these naval and

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<v Speaker 4>merchant ships.

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<v Speaker 1>From that moment on, the pirates and whoever chose to

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<v Speaker 1>join them would sail off into the sunset and the

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<v Speaker 1>open sea out there.

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<v Speaker 2>No captains or merchants had any power over them. They

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<v Speaker 2>were miles away, not only from the authority of their

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<v Speaker 2>former employers, but also from the institutions that reproduce the

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<v Speaker 2>has seen social order churches, governments, families, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>They were free to create a new order, one that

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<v Speaker 1>worked on their own terms.

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<v Speaker 4>They just get to decide for themselves how they want

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<v Speaker 4>to run the ship, what do they do, how do

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<v Speaker 4>they do it. Do they do it in the same

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<v Speaker 4>way as the Royal Navy and the merchant shipping industry,

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<v Speaker 4>And the answer resoundingly is no, they didn't do it

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<v Speaker 4>that way. They created a very different kind of social order.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, some things had to say the same.

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<v Speaker 1>As ship still needed someone who could read charts, navigate

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<v Speaker 1>the seas, and keep them on course.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got to have that. If you don't have that,

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<v Speaker 4>the ship doesn't work properly. So you've got to choose

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<v Speaker 4>someone who has those skills. But even so, the pirates

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<v Speaker 4>would elect the person they wanted to lead them. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so now this is at a time Bear in mind,

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<v Speaker 4>this is at a time when poor people like sailors

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<v Speaker 4>had no democratic rights anywhere in the world. Okay, nowhere

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<v Speaker 4>did they have this kind of power. Because in most

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<v Speaker 4>every country, if there is some voting. It's for people

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<v Speaker 4>of property, and these pirates didn't have property, so they

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't vote. So they vote, so they vot. They vote

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<v Speaker 4>for a captain.

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<v Speaker 2>But even the best captains could abuse their power, so

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<v Speaker 2>the pirates built in a safeguard.

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<v Speaker 4>They created a new position called the quartermaster, who would

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<v Speaker 4>basically do two things. One keep an eye on the captain,

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<v Speaker 4>make sure he doesn't abuse his power, and two divide

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<v Speaker 4>up everything equally that they take when they capture prize vessels.

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<v Speaker 4>And what's fascinating about this is that for that job,

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to elect the most trustworthy person on the ship.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the person you would trust to be fair to

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<v Speaker 4>everybody and the person that you would trust to be

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<v Speaker 4>suspicious of captains. So they voted on that. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>like a dual executive in which there's this balance of

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<v Speaker 4>power so that people are not abused.

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<v Speaker 1>And they didn't stop there. Pirates elected officers for all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of roles.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, they voted on just about everything.

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<v Speaker 4>One ship captain said, it's who was totally unaccustomed to this.

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<v Speaker 4>He says, they're just constantly voting on everything. Where do

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<v Speaker 4>we want to sail the ship, where's the best place

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<v Speaker 4>to capture vessels? Who do we want to do this?

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<v Speaker 4>Who do we want to do that? And the sovereign

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<v Speaker 4>power was the crew as a collective. They had something

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<v Speaker 4>called the Common Council, in which everybody had to vote.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody came out, they had debates. You know, some said

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<v Speaker 4>let's go here, or they said let's go there, and

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<v Speaker 4>then they would have a vote. This is all very

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<v Speaker 4>unusual for the times.

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic way of running the ship was crucial to pirate culture,

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<v Speaker 1>and so was equality among the sailors.

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<v Speaker 4>And here you'd have to look at this in comparative perspective.

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<v Speaker 4>A captain on a royal naval vessel would probably make

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<v Speaker 4>sixty to eighty to one hundred times as much in

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<v Speaker 4>pay as the lowest common sailor. For the captain of

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<v Speaker 4>a merchant ship, it might be ten, twenty, thirty, forty

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<v Speaker 4>times as much, depending on how much of the cargo

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<v Speaker 4>the captain owned, and they frequently did own quite a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of it. But pirates didn't operate that way. First

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<v Speaker 4>of all, they abolished the wage. They said, we're not

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<v Speaker 4>wage laborers. We're partners in this enterprise. So it's like

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<v Speaker 4>a cooperative we're partners, and so we're going to pay

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<v Speaker 4>everybody according to shares, not the money wage. And this

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<v Speaker 4>too is kind of fascinating because this is the period

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<v Speaker 4>when wage labor is a sndant, this is part of

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<v Speaker 4>the rise of capitalism. But the pirates didn't want to

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<v Speaker 4>play that game, so they say we'll give shares.

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<v Speaker 2>Every crew member received at least one share.

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<v Speaker 1>Skilled workers like gunners, carpenters, or navigators earn slightly more

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<v Speaker 1>due to the crucial roles they played on the ship.

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<v Speaker 2>A specialist might get one in a quarter or one

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<v Speaker 2>and a half shares, but that was about the limit.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at the wage hierarchy, and look how the pirates

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<v Speaker 4>have radically compressed it so that the distance between the

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<v Speaker 4>top and the bottom is really minimal. And this, of

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<v Speaker 4>course also appealed to the common sailor. They loved this idea.

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<v Speaker 4>They loved the idea that the captain was not getting

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred times as much as anybody else. So this

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<v Speaker 4>democratic social order was really crucial. The authorities were very

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<v Speaker 4>well aware of it, and they wanted to eradicate it

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<v Speaker 4>because it was a very subversive example, this way of

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<v Speaker 4>running a ship in which the rank and file were

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<v Speaker 4>in control.

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<v Speaker 2>That radical rejection of class hierarchy wasn't just about wages.

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<v Speaker 2>It showed up in how pirates carried themselves too.

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<v Speaker 1>Take Walter Kennedy for example. He came from a poor

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<v Speaker 1>family in London, got by through burglary and pickpocketing, and

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<v Speaker 1>eventually found his way to the Royal Navy. When he

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<v Speaker 1>turned pirate, he made a name for himself by sharing

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<v Speaker 1>loot equitably and refusing to follow the rigid social order

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<v Speaker 1>of the time. People even called him the robin Hood

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<v Speaker 1>of the Sea.

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<v Speaker 2>But Kennedy's class defiance didn't stop there. When he was

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<v Speaker 2>captured and put on trial, he showed up wearing a

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<v Speaker 2>powdered wig, a symbol of the elite he had spent

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<v Speaker 2>his life fighting against. It was a final act of mockery,

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<v Speaker 2>a pirate's way of thumbing his nose at the system,

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<v Speaker 2>even in the face of death.

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<v Speaker 1>That defiance wasn't just personal, it was collective, and nothing

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<v Speaker 1>symbolized that more than the flag they flew, the Jolly Roger.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start with a name.

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<v Speaker 4>Jolly Roger had a specific meaning that came from the underworld,

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<v Speaker 4>as it was often called in the port cities where

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<v Speaker 4>people would speak a particular kind of language. It was

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<v Speaker 4>called can't thieves can't. It was a very specialized vocabulary.

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<v Speaker 4>And jolly is sort of well known, but Roger meant

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<v Speaker 4>to copulate. Okay, to Roger, someone was to fuck them.

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<v Speaker 4>So basically the Jolly Roger. The basic message of the

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<v Speaker 4>Jolly Roger was fuck you. And I think this is

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<v Speaker 4>kind of what they were trying to convey.

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<v Speaker 2>But beyond giving anyone who looked at it the middle finger,

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<v Speaker 2>the symbolism of the Jolly Roger conveyed the pirate's ideals,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in contrast to the world they had left behind.

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<v Speaker 4>Flags represent group identification with an idea or a set

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<v Speaker 4>of principles. So you have flags of empires, for example,

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<v Speaker 4>the Union Jack. What pirates began to do in the

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<v Speaker 4>seventeen teens was to create their own flags. And this

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<v Speaker 4>is you know, you've got to remember too, how important

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<v Speaker 4>flags were to life at sea. This is how you

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<v Speaker 4>signal from ship to ship, what you're doing, where you're going,

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<v Speaker 4>who you are. Right there are all these banners and

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<v Speaker 4>flags flying on every vessel.

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<v Speaker 2>And the significance of flags as symbols of empire and

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<v Speaker 2>hegemony make the iconography of the jolly Roger that much

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<v Speaker 2>more subversive.

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<v Speaker 4>Some people say that the origin of the pirate flag

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<v Speaker 4>name jolly Roger comes from the French joles rouge.

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<v Speaker 1>Which means pretty red in French.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of the early pirate flags were red, but

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<v Speaker 4>it turns out black became the dominant color, and by

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<v Speaker 4>the time we get into this third generation, almost all

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<v Speaker 4>the pirate flags are black.

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<v Speaker 1>And against that black flag.

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<v Speaker 4>They choose the image of death, the death's head that

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<v Speaker 4>could be a skull and crossbones, as it is now

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<v Speaker 4>very commonly depicted, but in many cases, probably in most cases,

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<v Speaker 4>it was an entire skeleton, as they called it, an anatomy,

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<v Speaker 4>with a skull, and you could see all the bones

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<v Speaker 4>of the body. And the skull was usually holding two things.

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<v Speaker 4>It was holding in one hand an hourglass and in

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<v Speaker 4>the other hand a sword or a spear or a dart.

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus says that on one level, these images are pretty straightforward.

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<v Speaker 4>Prize ship sees a pirate ship bearing down on them,

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<v Speaker 4>up goes the jolly Roger, and you look at this

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<v Speaker 4>image of death, and you see the weapon, and you

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<v Speaker 4>see the hourglass, and what are you going to conclude?

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<v Speaker 4>Would surrender or you will die, right, That's what they're

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<v Speaker 4>That's what they're saying. They it's the black pirate flag

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<v Speaker 4>is an instrument of terror. It's meant to terrify their

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<v Speaker 4>prey so they won't fight back.

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<v Speaker 1>In contrary to popular belief, a pirate would almost always

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<v Speaker 1>prefer the outcome.

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<v Speaker 4>Pirates would just always much prefer that people give up,

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<v Speaker 4>And most most merchant ships did give up. They didn't

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<v Speaker 4>want to fight these guys because they were very skillful.

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<v Speaker 4>There were a lot more of them on a pirate ship,

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<v Speaker 4>and you were going to lose. And if you piss

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<v Speaker 4>them off by shooting at them, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>worse for you when they capture you, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But beyond just surrender or die. Marcus also says there's

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<v Speaker 2>a second layer of symbolism to the Jolly Roger.

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<v Speaker 1>And he says it speaks directly to the social order

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<v Speaker 1>that all these pirates came from. Aboard naval and merchant ships.

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<v Speaker 4>Captains who kept logs of their voyages would frequently draw

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<v Speaker 4>in their log a skull and a crossbone to indicate

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<v Speaker 4>the death of a sailor. It's a fairly common practice.

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<v Speaker 4>So what sailors did when they became pirates, they seized

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<v Speaker 4>that symbolism of the skull and crossbones and put it

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<v Speaker 4>on their flag. Right, we're inverting the meaning of this, Right,

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<v Speaker 4>we are trapped in this world of death. And it

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<v Speaker 4>is absolutely true that the conordinary common sailor couldn't expect

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<v Speaker 4>to live very long, right, and this fueled their decision

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<v Speaker 4>to become pirates, the idea being, let us live well

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<v Speaker 4>as long as we can.

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<v Speaker 2>A symbol of the death of a common sailor holds

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<v Speaker 2>an hourglass and a sword.

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<v Speaker 4>There you go, death, violence, limited time. These are things

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<v Speaker 4>that were really crucial to the lives of common sailors,

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<v Speaker 4>and they put that on their banner, and then they

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<v Speaker 4>fought back against those conditions under that manner. And so

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<v Speaker 4>I think this is very revealing of their consciousness as workers,

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<v Speaker 4>that these are the conditions we're in, and we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to put this on the flag. We're going to have

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<v Speaker 4>our own flag. You know, to hell with all those

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<v Speaker 4>nation states. You know, we are free people and we

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<v Speaker 4>will do what we want. And we, as they put it,

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<v Speaker 4>declare war on the whole world, but of course not

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<v Speaker 4>against common sailors. Right, those are the people that you

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<v Speaker 4>defend you take vengeance against their class enemies. So there

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<v Speaker 4>is a very strong anti national quality to this black flag,

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<v Speaker 4>and everybody recognized it as such at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Alamatina a penal sata oh very lagi, very largile, very Largiuou.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all we've got time for in this episode. Join

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<v Speaker 2>us in Part two, where we talk more about everyday

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<v Speaker 2>life aboard a pirate chip, the rules pirates lived, by,

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<v Speaker 2>the alliances they built, and how their fight for freedom

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately led to their downfall.

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<v Speaker 1>Part two is available now for early listening for our

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<v Speaker 2>If you'd like to learn more about the Golden Age

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<v Speaker 2>of piracy, check out the web page for this episode,

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<v Speaker 2>where you'll find further reading and more. You can also

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<v Speaker 2>get Marcus's book Fill of All Nations, Atlantic Pirates and

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<v Speaker 2>the Golden Age, and.

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<v Speaker 1>His graphic novel under the Banner of King Death, Pirates

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<v Speaker 1>of the Atlantic, a graphic novel with David Lester, and

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<v Speaker 1>the links in the show note.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks also to our Patreon supporters for making this podcast possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Special thanks to Jazz Hands, Fernando Lopez Ojeda, Jeremy Cusamano,

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Williams, and Old Norm.

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<v Speaker 1>Our theme tune is Bella Chow. Thanks for permission to

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was written by me Audrey Kemp.

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<v Speaker 2>And me Tyler Hill, produced by me Tyler Hill. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it for today. I hope you enjoyed the episode

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<v Speaker 2>and thanks so much for listening.

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<v Speaker 3>Moon
