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<v Speaker 1>Uh uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, what's up you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's me Cecily Nobler here with Stephanie Wilder Taylor.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello, friends, O friends, little countrymen, countrymen, country women.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's face mostly Oh you can't spell count Now, that's

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<v Speaker 2>just something we just came. See.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the kind of thing you don't know on the show. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it starts and then we just it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know, we don't know. Yeah, if how how

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<v Speaker 2>can you know? If we don't know?

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what I'm saying. It's like it's exciting for

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<v Speaker 1>us too. It's like it's like a big build up.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes we you know, we walk away in shame.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually not not today.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be let's be honest. We don't care. We don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>We end episodes. I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>give you a little funny peek behind the curtain. Huh, Cecily,

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<v Speaker 2>Cecily oftentimes not okay, I'm not gonna say often off

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<v Speaker 2>that would be an exaggeration. But sometimes Cecily will be like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, do you think we do you think

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<v Speaker 2>people are going to be offended by this or that?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm always like, oh my god, no, and who cares?

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<v Speaker 2>And then later it's just sometimes an initial reaction that

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<v Speaker 2>you have about like, oh god, did we go too far,

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<v Speaker 2>And then later you think about it, you go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>fuck it, I don't care. But it's always an initial

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<v Speaker 2>thing that because we don't know what's going to come

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<v Speaker 2>out of our mouths, and sometimes sometimes we do go

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<v Speaker 2>too far. But way back in the day, and I

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<v Speaker 2>know people hate it when we say this, but way

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<v Speaker 2>back in the day, oh my god, there were a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of episodes that we couldn't air.

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<v Speaker 1>We just didn't air, I mean like long, like some

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<v Speaker 1>were Patreon bonuses. Those were where we especially went wrong

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<v Speaker 1>because we thought we were like, we're so safe because

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<v Speaker 1>it's Patreon. It's just paid people that get us and

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<v Speaker 1>they want to be here, and it's not just like

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<v Speaker 1>thrust upon them. This is and yeah, we would do

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<v Speaker 1>a whole thing about someone we know, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, fuck it, and then we're like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>we can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Or yes, yes, yes. If you think we have some

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<v Speaker 2>bad takes, now you should have heard some of the things.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes we'd go on like for forty minutes, and

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<v Speaker 2>then later we'd be like, we can't air that.

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<v Speaker 1>We both go no, especially because I think the reason

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<v Speaker 1>we would go on is because we were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>convince ourselves that we assholds. We're like, well, hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, and then Mike, we both start thinking like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>but what if they only listen to the part where

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<v Speaker 1>we're terrible and then they're like, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to this anymore, and they don't hear us go

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<v Speaker 1>we understand how some of you may feel that Amanda binds.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, I'm not even going to finish the sentence

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<v Speaker 1>because it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter what was that. I mean, there were

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<v Speaker 2>things there. I'm sure there would be like a Woody

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<v Speaker 2>Allen episode where we were just on the freaking wrong

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<v Speaker 2>side of things, and then we'd be like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>by the end of the episode, we'd be like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I could see if somebody else felt a different way,

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<v Speaker 2>but then it was just too late.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, yes, he's eavy and terrible, like we get it, Like, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it was at least we're being honest about it. And

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<v Speaker 1>the last one, I'll just say, I'm not gonna we

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<v Speaker 1>won't go into it, but yeah, I was really worried

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<v Speaker 1>after we'd recorded and it was just.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of a side note.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, I don't want to make I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want Europeans to be upset with me because I

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<v Speaker 1>said they should get AC and you were like, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, because maybe they can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's a grid problem and maybe their grids

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<v Speaker 1>don't support AC like our grid, which is probably drue.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't think anyone's going to think.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how much I love it over there. I

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<v Speaker 1>root for them the most.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the thing. I just don't want to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see our listeners being like, well that's where

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<v Speaker 2>I draw the line. They just said they just victim

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<v Speaker 2>blamed the French. Well your your opinion, your thing was valid.

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<v Speaker 2>You were like, I don't want anybody to think I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care if people. People are dying over there very much. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>especially the elderly and people who can't. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why they're not getting ACS. I think they should,

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<v Speaker 2>though I'd like to let's put some let's put on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do go fundme for friends for Europe, just Europe

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<v Speaker 2>and Germany. Seems like they have a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I mean to put into their systems

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<v Speaker 2>exactly need to upgrade their grid a little bit. I'd say,

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<v Speaker 2>go for it, guys, I just do it unlimited energy.

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<v Speaker 2>But my goodness, it's eighty eight degrees and you're acting okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to do it again. See I'm doing

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<v Speaker 2>it again. Okay, we're good. You know what we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about today? Something I think safer. Who knows though,

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<v Speaker 2>who knows? When we get done with any topic? If

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<v Speaker 2>it's safe, that's right, that's right. What what are we

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<v Speaker 2>starting with? You you want to start? Can I start

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<v Speaker 2>us out with this housewives thing? Or is this?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Yeah, there is reality show day by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>So theme so you got your Bachelor, you got your Bravo,

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<v Speaker 1>we got all that ship.

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<v Speaker 2>We're bringing this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll go a little Hulu mm hmm, all the

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<v Speaker 1>all the stuff. So I'm going to start with this

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<v Speaker 1>refining story. Now, the OC is back. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>meant to watch it, but I didn't. I guess they're

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<v Speaker 1>just I think just came back yesterday. Maybe maybe it's tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I know you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>watch Orange County anymore, and I do not blame you.

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<v Speaker 2>I have Vicky's back, you know what what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I do. I feel angry about it, because yes, Vicky

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<v Speaker 2>sucks so bad. These so many of these people are maga.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I just don't I don't care about them.

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<v Speaker 2>And it is Gretchen supposed to be. Is Gretchen back?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know. I mean, I checked out. I

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<v Speaker 2>checked out of that ship.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the women that was on Housewives Orange

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<v Speaker 1>County is this woman named jen Jennifer dan.

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<v Speaker 2>Jef and she I didn't like her on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>She's kind of they painted her. She kind of fought her.

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<v Speaker 1>Way back, but if you watched a few seasons ago,

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<v Speaker 1>they really painted her as not very bright, bull digging.

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<v Speaker 1>She was with this guy that like had all these

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<v Speaker 1>issues allegedly with FBI, like he was being rated. All

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<v Speaker 1>these businesses he had were shady. But you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's this blonde woman that's gotten a lot. No no

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<v Speaker 1>shame in being blonde or getting all your stuff done.

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<v Speaker 2>She did a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Gin Tamra fought a lot because Tamra, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get like just a lot going.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, don't forget that she did not pay any of

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<v Speaker 2>the rent what's her name, Jana. I can't do her voice,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Gina was

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<v Speaker 2>in the place that she lived and just did not

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<v Speaker 2>pay her rent and was like, well, I thought my

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<v Speaker 2>ex husband was going to pay it and he didn't. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right, So I just didn't pay it and then

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<v Speaker 2>I had to move out. And everybody was really mad

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<v Speaker 2>at her because like, girl, that you why were you

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<v Speaker 2>living in a place where the rent is like twelve

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars a month that you couldn't pay. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>just be like what, I didn't know, so God.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she moved in with this guy with a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of kids going to come up. She has a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of kids and let this guy kind of take care

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<v Speaker 1>of everything. Then she got in this huge fight with

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<v Speaker 1>Emily was also hard on hers, like why are you

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<v Speaker 1>walking around with a fucking rolex when you can't pay

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<v Speaker 1>people that you owe? Sell your fucking watch right where

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<v Speaker 1>Emily was on it, so Tamor. She got in a

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<v Speaker 1>and she yelled to Tamar, like stay out of my business,

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<v Speaker 1>like I finally have my kids are safe, as though

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<v Speaker 1>she couldn't do that in any way on her own,

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<v Speaker 1>right if you had to have this, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's not our favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like her at all. Never happened, No, So okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the headline. On page six. Real Housewive star

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<v Speaker 1>reveals her son is facing quote unquote consequences for.

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<v Speaker 2>His involvement in starting a wild fire. Now this story

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<v Speaker 2>makes me so angry because it's she's like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean we were really like, we were really upset when

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<v Speaker 2>we found out this happened. And believe me, there's there's

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<v Speaker 2>there were consequences. We were, but she's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>parents that's just like, you know, we made sure that

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<v Speaker 2>your son is a fucking fire starter? Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>We were. We were destroyed, as you guys know, our

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<v Speaker 1>city a little over a year ago. We lost altad

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<v Speaker 1>almost all of Altadina a lot of Malibu like parts.

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<v Speaker 1>I was evacuated, Stephanie was evacuated. We and it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was traumatizing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was for our dogs, yes, and that fire was Arson,

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<v Speaker 2>so oh, well, so was our Runyon was arsen to. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think all of them were actually yeah, but the big,

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<v Speaker 2>the big, the Pacific Palisades fire was Arson. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>they caught that guy, so this is this is no joke,

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<v Speaker 2>like you could.

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<v Speaker 1>They caught the guy and like didn't really do much.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a hung jury on that. It's outrageous. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very upset about that. But this was in Ladera Ranch, California,

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<v Speaker 1>and she says, yes, he's facing consequences. She did not

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<v Speaker 1>name which son she's got three. No, she has four

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<v Speaker 1>sons with her ex husband, William. She has twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>year old Harrison, nineteen year old Dawson that's who I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was, sixteen year old Grayson could have been him,

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<v Speaker 1>and twelve year old Dominick all right, but like I'm dominant.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Dawson and Grayson. There were issues the former.

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<v Speaker 2>They also have a daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>So she had five kids, five kids, but could not

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't take care of and only a man can help

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<v Speaker 1>her take care of them. Yeah, she's the worst, so

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<v Speaker 1>she says, she wrote, I guess she posted he and

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<v Speaker 1>others were involved. My ex husband and myself, take this

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<v Speaker 1>very serious, not seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>She wrote that down and just let it go.

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<v Speaker 1>The behavior is unacceptable and we are deeply sorry to

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<v Speaker 1>our community. This is a tough learning moment for our

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<v Speaker 1>son and our family.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck you, this is a criminal act, Jen.

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<v Speaker 1>This is another POSTI were her, I would not. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so legal, but California, so I'm not really

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<v Speaker 1>sure what will happen.

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<v Speaker 2>The next sentence of this makes me stabby.

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<v Speaker 1>So she says, we were so thankful there was no

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<v Speaker 1>property damage and nobody was hurt. The fire and the

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<v Speaker 1>fire and police were absolutely amazing and gave these boys

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<v Speaker 2>They won't never forget a lesson. They committed a fucking crime.

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<v Speaker 2>They they're fire starters. They're fire starters. That is crazy behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>They purposely started a fire.

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<v Speaker 1>son learns from the accident. She calls it an accident,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure he hears so she's oh my god, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, and then there's photos of them of tons

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<v Speaker 1>of fire resources who could be used in better ways blowing,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. It was reported for forty five local time on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>both on the ground and then the air coordinated effort. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so firefighters were able to stop the flames before they

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's great. What if they had? Yeah, what if

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<v Speaker 2>it what if it was a day? What do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to say, Bobby? What are you gonna say?

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer, who has been a main cast member on the

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<v Speaker 1>show since season seventeen, split from the husband William in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one. So that's not even not long ago

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<v Speaker 1>that she had this whole other relationship and moved her

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<v Speaker 2>Right, they were married, quite so that was ryan. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>they got together in twenty twenty four. Yeah, fuck her,

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<v Speaker 2>fuck them all. Somebody this on Reddit, where I originally

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<v Speaker 2>read this, it says she's constantly apologizing. She should try

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out why so many people around her suck

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<v Speaker 2>so bad. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great cob. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 2>then some people were like, the fire was down the

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<v Speaker 2>street from me, all the helicopters doing water drops, huge

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<v Speaker 2>response from the fire department. Send her the bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, yes, of course, and his her rich FBI

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<v Speaker 1>scheming whatever. He's not in the f he was being

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, So let me move on to should

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you really quick about hold on? Where is it? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So this is really gross and sad. But this woman,

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<v Speaker 2>Anne Marie Wiley. Okay, So remember Anne Marie Wiley was

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<v Speaker 2>from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. She was only on

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<v Speaker 2>for one season because she was very controversial. She really

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, well, I'm a nurse, I'm an esophagus nurse,

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<v Speaker 2>then people were like, well, you're not actually an esophagus

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<v Speaker 2>anything like you're a nurse that you're not even I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what she was. She was not anything that

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<v Speaker 2>had any right to weigh in at all. Right, although

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<v Speaker 2>again I never like, yeah she was. She was really

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<v Speaker 2>awful and she was also again it just very very

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<v Speaker 2>maga and it turned out so the But the thing was,

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<v Speaker 2>from all the reporting that we saw, her husband seemed

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<v Speaker 2>forget so much like you're like you're constantly forgetting. Don't Cecily,

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<v Speaker 2>don't forget this. Okay. Her husband had a thing where

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<v Speaker 2>he called her everybody who's calling her eight point five

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<v Speaker 2>because her husband told her that said, she's not a ten,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's an eight point five because she's, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good at a lot of stuff, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's like an eight point five and looks but an

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<v Speaker 2>eight point five. And anyway, he really sounded like pretty

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<v Speaker 2>awful and abusive, and turns out he totally is. So

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<v Speaker 2>he was arrested for domestic abuse. The first story was

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more confusing, but the second story that

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<v Speaker 2>came out is basically that she claims that he raped her. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty bad, and she filed a restraining order and

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<v Speaker 2>she's getting a divorce from him. But you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>remember that I hated him from the get go because

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<v Speaker 2>he had all this like anti trans sentiment, like and

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought it was gross. That she was associated

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<v Speaker 2>with him, but yeah, she is asking the court to

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<v Speaker 2>order her a strange husband to stay one hundred yards

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<v Speaker 2>away from her and allow her to use the home.

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<v Speaker 2>He was arrested over the weekend, so this would have

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<v Speaker 2>been last weekend after she claimed he got physical with

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<v Speaker 2>her in a Florida hotel room. He denied the claims,

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<v Speaker 2>but was arrested for domestic violence. And she's saying, now, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so that he has subjected her to continuing and escalating

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<v Speaker 2>pattern of physical violence, sexual abuse, verbal and emotional abuse,

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<v Speaker 2>financial control, and intimidation. And as much as I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like her, I completely believe her. He seems horrible. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I totally believe her. Yeah, he was forshed.

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<v Speaker 1>They were both not great, right, and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to think that people that go on these

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<v Speaker 1>housewive show or any reality show, a lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>aren't great.

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<v Speaker 2>Is what it's feeling like to me.

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<v Speaker 1>If I may make a bold statement, yeah, there's something

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<v Speaker 1>wrong here, Like if that's the only job is well,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to get up my job because I have

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<v Speaker 1>five kids and my ex is booten. He's not paying

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<v Speaker 1>for all the ones that have that are over eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>he's not paying me, is what she means. Probably right,

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<v Speaker 1>because from what I understand, I think the ex husband

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<v Speaker 1>did take good care of the kids.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all a mess. We're back on Jen Paganry. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry. Yes, oh yeah, no, I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>But listen to this, she says. This is Anne. Marie says,

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<v Speaker 2>because of the trauma associated with many of these events,

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<v Speaker 2>there are gaps in my memory as I've blocked out

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<v Speaker 2>much of what Marcella's has done to me. I believe that,

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<v Speaker 2>he says. She says. She claimed that Marcel's raped her

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twelve while he was intoxicated and tried to

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<v Speaker 2>sleep with two of her friends. The same year, in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen, he punched her in the face and gave

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<v Speaker 2>her a black eye, and she said when she was

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<v Speaker 2>nine months pregnant in twenty nineteen, he threw a bottle

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<v Speaker 2>of Coca Cola at her head. So he seems horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is a plug for Coca Cola. That's

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<v Speaker 2>product placement. Yeah, that's our we have it.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I unrelated, we do have an ad

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<v Speaker 1>with Coca Cola. And that's just how they said we

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<v Speaker 1>could do it. Anyway we want.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so this is there's more stuff that's even more

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<v Speaker 2>graphic that I'm not going to say no, But she

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<v Speaker 2>did a lot of really bad stuff the whole like horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, speaking of fighting exes, let's talk about Taylor Frankie Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you what's going on there. And you're

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<v Speaker 2>hearing this.

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<v Speaker 1>We're recording this probably four or five days before you're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing it, so you know, don't worry about that. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter whatever he knows he is. But yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>on it. Okay, So Taylor Frankie Paul, you know our bachelorette,

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<v Speaker 1>our secret, shameful bachelorette.

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<v Speaker 2>This is on TMZ and Exclusive.

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<v Speaker 1>It says she grills her ex Da Coda about girls

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<v Speaker 1>in texts and says, who the fuck you with?

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<v Speaker 2>She said, So, I'm just going to read this to you.

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<v Speaker 1>She questioned her ex Tokoda on whether he was hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with other girls following their breakup in wild text

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<v Speaker 1>messages that he's using in court. TMZ learned. So, they

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<v Speaker 1>they're so good at that. I don't know how the

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<v Speaker 1>TMZ does it, but they're good at it. URSU is

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with the case telld TMZ that he submitted a

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<v Speaker 1>series of texts from February conversations in twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>where Taylor asked her ex what his plans were for

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<v Speaker 1>the night. When she didn't get an immediate response, she

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<v Speaker 1>followed it up with multiple question marks and then a

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<v Speaker 1>third text stating hello and all caps.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that I would lose my mind? Oh yeah, Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>Dakota explained he was getting food, but Taylor was not

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<v Speaker 1>buying the answer, and she started to grill him about

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<v Speaker 1>her his plans where she was getting food. She texted,

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<v Speaker 1>who the fuck you with? Fucking sketch liar. She also

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<v Speaker 1>told Dakota he was being wicked and believed he was

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<v Speaker 1>up to something. Another Taylor text read, nah, you're with girls? Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>go with that, all right? You know now, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to take her side on this, but Dakota probably

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<v Speaker 1>deserved some suspicion, right, Like, we're not thinking Dakota is great.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know, we don't know the b Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna I'm gonna say this and I'm gonna I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to push back on you and you're not alone when

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<v Speaker 2>whenever you see Taylor Frankie Paul's stuff. People are like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but he sucks too, and what did he do before?

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<v Speaker 2>But there are video after video coming out by Dakota's

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<v Speaker 2>friend crew keeps putting out these videos of Taylor freaking

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck out, like trying to attack him. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and what there's there's one that there's a new one

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<v Speaker 2>where he's holding their kid in his arms and he's like, basically,

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<v Speaker 2>he says, you tried. You were attacking me before, because

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<v Speaker 2>she's like, why are you filming me? Why are you

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<v Speaker 2>filming me? You're horrible for filming me? And he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>because you were attacking me. She never says no, I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>You're lying. Never, She's just like, oh, well, you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be filming me. You shouldn't be filming me. You're so

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<v Speaker 2>mean for filming me. I where okay, where are the videos? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>How come he has countless videos of her attacking him

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<v Speaker 2>and we have not seen one video of him attacking her,

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<v Speaker 2>And yet so many people are like, yeah, but what

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<v Speaker 2>does he do to her? I mean, I understand her mad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, She's like maybe she doesn't pull out the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people don't. Some things she just never has.

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<v Speaker 2>So she knows that he's made so many videos and

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<v Speaker 2>she's just not one time been like I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>take a video of you hurting me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think she's the brightest, if I'm honest, she

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<v Speaker 1>does not. She does not seem smart at all, just

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<v Speaker 1>based on these texts a lot, I mean, like they're

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<v Speaker 1>all just dummies.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, all my other women, all the other women on

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<v Speaker 2>Mormon House, on the Mormon Secret Lives of Mormon Wives,

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<v Speaker 2>they all say that she's violent. Oh yeah, oh yeaheah.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, I am not a fan of her

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<v Speaker 1>at all. I was mortified, you know, I'm mad. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been about ABC, Disney and all this, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>he sucks too. But you're right, that doesn't those two

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<v Speaker 1>things should be separate. We should just deal with like

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<v Speaker 1>her kind of crazy right now because he's the one

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<v Speaker 1>providing that proof, which is your point.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah. My point is he's he's showing proofs

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't deny. She keeps. There's another thing, another text

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<v Speaker 2>message exchange between them that I'm not going to bother

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<v Speaker 2>reading to you, But the gist of it was both

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<v Speaker 2>of them were being toxic, but she was saying, I

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<v Speaker 2>know I shouldn't behave like that with you. You haven't

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<v Speaker 2>done anything to deserve like I've hurt you, I've physically

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<v Speaker 2>hurt you. Basically, she was completely acknowledging like being physical

416
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<v Speaker 2>with him, and she's like, I don't know why I

417
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<v Speaker 2>do that. I just get so mad and I'm sorry.

418
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<v Speaker 2>But if that was the other way around, that would

419
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<v Speaker 2>just you would never have people going, yeah, but what

420
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<v Speaker 2>did she do? Right? She do to instigate it? You know,

421
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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like our joke like whoa is she

422
00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:16.519
<v Speaker 2>talking back? Right? You know, she was asking for it, like,

423
00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:18.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe she's just a bit. I mean, we

424
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<v Speaker 2>would never do that. We would be like, that's crazy.

425
00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:24.240
<v Speaker 2>We're watching a video of a guy beating up a woman.

426
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<v Speaker 2>Let's just say, nobody when they saw that Chris Brown.

427
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<v Speaker 2>Then when they heard that Chris Brown beat up Rihanna

428
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<v Speaker 2>and nobody was like, yeah, but Rihanna's you know what,

429
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<v Speaker 2>was she being a bitch to him?

430
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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

431
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<v Speaker 2>My god? Of course not.

432
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<v Speaker 1>But I think in this case, it's not not talking

433
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<v Speaker 1>about the physical abuse, but talking about like who are

434
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<v Speaker 1>you with?

435
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<v Speaker 2>You're a liar, you're cheater.

436
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think Dakota probably was not to be trusted,

437
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<v Speaker 1>So we don't know what the dynamic. There's no excuse

438
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<v Speaker 1>ever for her to put her hands on anyone, like

439
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<v Speaker 1>especially well ever at all, but especially with her kids

440
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<v Speaker 1>in the room. I mean, like she's obviously a total

441
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<v Speaker 1>train wreck. We do not support that. But when it

442
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<v Speaker 1>comes to like cheating allegaty, I'm not that person personally

443
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<v Speaker 1>who rage texts people about where they are and who.

444
00:23:08.160 --> 00:23:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I just internalize it and like write a poem about

445
00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:14.599
<v Speaker 1>it every now and then, honestly and listen to maybe

446
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<v Speaker 1>boy genius, but I really so, I don't really get it.

447
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<v Speaker 1>But I also I also don't know what their dynamic

448
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<v Speaker 1>is in terms of like him not being faithful or

449
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<v Speaker 1>even a good person. So I'm trying not to I'm

450
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<v Speaker 1>trying to separate these things a little bit and go like, well,

451
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<v Speaker 1>a text where she's sort of like you're lying, where

452
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<v Speaker 1>the fuck are you? I could see how there could

453
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<v Speaker 1>be more information that explains that.

454
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<v Speaker 2>Well, Yeah, And what I was going to say too

455
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<v Speaker 2>about the text that I was reading is basically she's like,

456
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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry, you know, I'm sorry, Like I'm so

457
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<v Speaker 2>horrible to you, You're you're so great You're such a

458
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<v Speaker 2>great dad. I'm a terrible mom. And then he writes back,

459
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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, no you're not. You're like the most

460
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<v Speaker 2>amazing mom, Like I love you so much, like I

461
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<v Speaker 2>want to be holding you right now. I mean you

462
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<v Speaker 2>can just see that their relationship is so toxic.

463
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<v Speaker 1>She's like a bottomless pity and he like loves the

464
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<v Speaker 1>drama and they're grows.

465
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, one of the things too. I just want

466
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<v Speaker 2>to say one more thing about her, which is that

467
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<v Speaker 2>she about Taylor Frankie Paul, which is that one of

468
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<v Speaker 2>her things that she's done that's pissed off the other

469
00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:24.920
<v Speaker 2>women is that she's, you know, her whole thing right

470
00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:28.039
<v Speaker 2>now is saying, I'm the reason that you guys are famous.

471
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<v Speaker 2>I'm the reason that this show is successful. They wanted me,

472
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<v Speaker 2>it's my show, like, and you guys are all like

473
00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:36.759
<v Speaker 2>riding on my coattails. And some of these women are

474
00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:41.039
<v Speaker 2>just not having it. And Mikayla wrote, I can't for

475
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<v Speaker 2>some reason, I can't, I cut off the top of this,

476
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<v Speaker 2>but she wrote something about the accomplishments of women who've

477
00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:54.279
<v Speaker 2>done nothing but celebrate yours. Oh it's something like it's

478
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<v Speaker 2>something like putting down the accomplishments of women who've done

479
00:24:57.240 --> 00:25:01.640
<v Speaker 2>nothing but celebrate yours is definitely a choice. Shout out

480
00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:04.799
<v Speaker 2>to Whitney and Jen who both went on Dancing with

481
00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:09.119
<v Speaker 2>the Stars and absolutely killed it, one of them freshly postpartum.

482
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<v Speaker 2>That's a little slammed to her because she's always like,

483
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<v Speaker 2>I'm postpartum macy for becoming a New York Times bestselling

484
00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:22.599
<v Speaker 2>author and whatever her name is, Slaala for absolutely eating

485
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<v Speaker 2>up every runway Slala, but now I don't know it's

486
00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:33.920
<v Speaker 2>literally Slaala, oh Leyla. But they're calling her Slayla because

487
00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:37.440
<v Speaker 2>she was because she's queen. Okay, Oh my god, I'm

488
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<v Speaker 2>old Okay, And of course, shout out to all the

489
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<v Speaker 2>other incredible accomplishments that somehow made the cut to be

490
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<v Speaker 2>diminished in her post. For someone who's so big on

491
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<v Speaker 2>quote defending yourself end quote, not being silenced, it's pretty

492
00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:57.000
<v Speaker 2>hypocritical to simultaneously use your massive platform to pressure and

493
00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:01.160
<v Speaker 2>intimidate the people around you into staying quiet about their experiences.

494
00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:05.640
<v Speaker 2>So these women are not on Taylor's side, and they

495
00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:07.680
<v Speaker 2>never have been, and nor.

496
00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Would we be. She's terrible. We always thought that even

497
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:13.680
<v Speaker 1>only we're covering that show. Yeah, yeah, so that's that.

498
00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:20.079
<v Speaker 1>And then okay, this is pretty funny. I can't stop

499
00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:26.759
<v Speaker 1>being excited about this Jen LaPlaca stuff too okay.

500
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:29.559
<v Speaker 2>Funny to me. And anytime I get little updates, I've

501
00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:32.240
<v Speaker 2>got to share them because she I've seen another couple

502
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:35.920
<v Speaker 2>of clips of her just with her, like, yeah, she's

503
00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:40.599
<v Speaker 2>so delusional, it's crazy. But here's okay. So here's an

504
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:45.319
<v Speaker 2>article that was in TMZ that says the Peter Weber

505
00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:49.079
<v Speaker 2>hits back at former producer's hook up bombshell. So some

506
00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:51.839
<v Speaker 2>of this you've heard, but there's new information in here. Okay,

507
00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:53.799
<v Speaker 2>so god, it's just going to read you the article.

508
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<v Speaker 2>Peter Weber is firing back at former Bachelor producer Julie LaPlaca,

509
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<v Speaker 2>claiming claimed in her new memoir the two hooked up

510
00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:06.799
<v Speaker 2>while his season was still airing, telling TMZ he's deeply

511
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:10.240
<v Speaker 2>disappointed she chose to publicly reveal what he says, we're

512
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:12.680
<v Speaker 2>private moments. Okay, this part you've heard, but I'm going

513
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:15.680
<v Speaker 2>to read it again, Peter tells TMZ in a statement.

514
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:18.640
<v Speaker 2>I just find it ironic that Julie is coming out

515
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:21.680
<v Speaker 2>with a book all about finding your truth and searching

516
00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:24.960
<v Speaker 2>for love when the entire time I was trying to

517
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:27.799
<v Speaker 2>do just that on my season of The Bachelor with

518
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:31.279
<v Speaker 2>her as my main confidant and guide throughout the process.

519
00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Her actions said otherwise, he continues, I'm no means a

520
00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:38.599
<v Speaker 2>victim in all this. I'm a grown man who's responsible

521
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:42.039
<v Speaker 2>for all my actions, and I know that. That being said,

522
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:44.960
<v Speaker 2>going through an experience like I did involved a certain

523
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:48.240
<v Speaker 2>level of trust being given to people I really didn't

524
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:51.839
<v Speaker 2>know that much about at the time. Peter says, contestants

525
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:54.599
<v Speaker 2>are cut off from the outside world and rely heavily

526
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:58.279
<v Speaker 2>on producers for guidance, adding, I have a hard time

527
00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:02.319
<v Speaker 2>understanding how Chris Harrison and Julie can both endorse this

528
00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:04.920
<v Speaker 2>type of book when they know how badly they let

529
00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:10.799
<v Speaker 2>me down. For instance, Peter alleges, Okay, this is crazy.

530
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Peter alleges Julie got into a very stern argument with

531
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<v Speaker 2>him when he was going to give contestant Hannah Ann

532
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:21.519
<v Speaker 2>sluss A rose to meet his family for the hometown

533
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:25.960
<v Speaker 2>dates and warned and warned him America would laugh at him.

534
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 2>He tells TMZ, you can imagine the confusion and lack

535
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.519
<v Speaker 2>of trust I felt in that moment. Lack of self trust.

536
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:36.480
<v Speaker 2>A few weeks later, when Peter was getting ready to

537
00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:41.400
<v Speaker 2>propose to Hannah Anne, he claims Julie and Chris blatantly

538
00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:44.720
<v Speaker 2>lied to him that she was having second thoughts in

539
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:47.240
<v Speaker 2>order to get a reaction out of him, and he

540
00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:52.440
<v Speaker 2>later learned Hannah was never having such uncertain feelings. He

541
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:55.759
<v Speaker 2>also claims he spoke with Julie for about ninety minutes

542
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.720
<v Speaker 2>before the memoir was published, repeatedly asking her not to

543
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:04.119
<v Speaker 2>incline his name or reveal off camera details about their relationship.

544
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Peter tells us quote to have her laugh in my

545
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:11.359
<v Speaker 2>face while I was very vulnerably expressing my reasons for

546
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:14.039
<v Speaker 2>wanting to be left out of this book was unforgivable.

547
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:20.519
<v Speaker 2>And yes she knows. I have the conversation recorded. Yeah,

548
00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:27.920
<v Speaker 2>so so basically, yeah, everything that you already know, but

549
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:31.160
<v Speaker 2>the way you already knows. No, I'm saying, well, okay,

550
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:33.920
<v Speaker 2>just it was just Julie who was in who was

551
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:37.599
<v Speaker 2>Peter's main producer, claimed that she and Peter's friendship turned

552
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.359
<v Speaker 2>romantic in early twenty twenty after his engagement to Hannah

553
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Ann ended, alleging they hooked up while his season was

554
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:50.119
<v Speaker 2>still airing and again after his brief reconciliation with Matty Pruett.

555
00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:53.720
<v Speaker 2>She also alleged they went to bed together just days

556
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:59.480
<v Speaker 2>before Peter rekindled things with Kelly Flanagan, and then rumors

557
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:02.440
<v Speaker 2>about them swirled for years after they were spotted together

558
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.079
<v Speaker 2>in Chicago. But basically a lot of this stuff that's

559
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:07.960
<v Speaker 2>coming out that she's saying on podcasts is that she

560
00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:13.039
<v Speaker 2>had like what you've described as limerens, that she just

561
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:15.240
<v Speaker 2>kind of fell in love with them. She couldn't. She

562
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:19.200
<v Speaker 2>became pretty obsessed with him and like thinking that they

563
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:21.880
<v Speaker 2>were soulmates and they were meant to be, and that's

564
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:25.079
<v Speaker 2>why she was trying to sabotage his relationship with these

565
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:28.279
<v Speaker 2>other women. It's crazy that the Bachelor would be okay

566
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:31.240
<v Speaker 2>with this coming out in a book like it's I mean,

567
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:34.039
<v Speaker 2>that goes far beyond limeral. That's not really what limerens is.

568
00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:35.039
<v Speaker 2>That's what she called it.

569
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<v Speaker 1>That Oh interesting, I love you know. My favorite thing

570
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>is when people misuse like therapy talk.

571
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:42.039
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

572
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised she's not saying she's like, what's the neurospicy,

573
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>She's saying, not too she is she now neurosparkly neurus.

574
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:53.559
<v Speaker 2>Is that a thing neurospark? Yeah, No, that doesn't.

575
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't like make you do like that's a whole

576
00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:59.480
<v Speaker 1>different disorder that makes you do crazy, weird things and

577
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>like sabotages other people's relationships.

578
00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:05.759
<v Speaker 2>I didn't mean that part, but I meant she got

579
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:09.720
<v Speaker 2>very obsessed with him, and she acknowledges that. During she

580
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:12.759
<v Speaker 2>just was very delusional and like we're going to end

581
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:15.640
<v Speaker 2>up together and we're meant to be, and like we

582
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:17.559
<v Speaker 2>just have to get him to not be thinking about

583
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:20.440
<v Speaker 2>these other women, because how can he not see it

584
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:23.400
<v Speaker 2>like she was. She just fell hard for him.

585
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:26.559
<v Speaker 1>She is delusional anyway, though, because we see the way

586
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>she's taught. Like I thought she was joking when Stephanie

587
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:30.880
<v Speaker 1>first brought this to me, I was like, she's joking.

588
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>She's putting on like a little act, just put in

589
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>a little show, like she's kidding. She's doing she's like satire. Right,

590
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:39.480
<v Speaker 1>nobody would go on a show. And she be like, yeah,

591
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>they wanted me to be the butler. And then you

592
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:44.960
<v Speaker 1>look at her and you're like, real, they didn't. Right,

593
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>We're not even putting her down. She's a beautiful woman.

594
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that but it's just like you can

595
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:51.319
<v Speaker 1>tell she's delusional just by the way she talks about shit.

596
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, of course, she's also very good at what she's doing.

597
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:56.519
<v Speaker 1>She's very good at plugging a book because we're talking

598
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:59.200
<v Speaker 1>about it, she's getting it out there. She doesn't give

599
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>a fuck. She does not care if like, I don't

600
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>think she cares if we're mocking her. She's like, no,

601
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>probably not, so we are probably not all right.

602
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Also, I just wanted to tell you in case

603
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:17.519
<v Speaker 2>you didn't know that Taylor Frankie Paul is returning for

604
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Secret Lives of Mormon Wives for season five. They're braining'll

605
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:25.519
<v Speaker 2>watching that just so we're clear. I can't do it.

606
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:28.160
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't do it when we were doing it. Oh wait,

607
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:32.920
<v Speaker 2>it says, oh hold on, hold on. It says I

608
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:36.640
<v Speaker 2>spoke too soon because the headline is miss misleading. It

609
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:39.400
<v Speaker 2>says Taylor Frankie Paul returning for Secret Lives of Mormon

610
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Wives for season five. But there's a twist. It says

611
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:48.599
<v Speaker 2>she's returning to film season five, but only the opening credits.

612
00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:51.920
<v Speaker 2>The Influencers set to film the intro over the next

613
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:55.279
<v Speaker 2>two days, but she won't be appearing throughout the rest

614
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:58.240
<v Speaker 2>of the season. While she won't be filming with the

615
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:00.960
<v Speaker 2>rest of the cast, it was it in April that

616
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Paul would likely get in front of the cameras at

617
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:08.680
<v Speaker 2>some point. So I don't know, no acts, no more.

618
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:13.359
<v Speaker 2>I can't boo yeah, ooh.

619
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<v Speaker 1>Lady, all right, these are the terrible people that are

620
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:19.039
<v Speaker 1>in our life. Do we have like one reality start

621
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:21.160
<v Speaker 1>that we're loving right now? Anybody that we can leave

622
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<v Speaker 1>on a nice note?

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<v Speaker 2>Genuinely think so? Honestly, I can't think of anybody. There's

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<v Speaker 2>got to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be somebody, you know who I like. Oh, I do

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<v Speaker 1>have one, and I can't think of her name. I

627
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>can never think of her name. But she's the one

628
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that cried all the time and she's not on Housewives

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<v Speaker 1>Rhode Island. Yeah, I know who you're talking. Yeah, her

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<v Speaker 1>name is Ashley Ashley or whatever. I think she's adorable.

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<v Speaker 1>And I watched a little bit of Rhode Island. I

632
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<v Speaker 1>can't really get into it. It's very It might as

633
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<v Speaker 1>well just be Jersey. I really can't tell the different.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand what I guess. I just don't understand

635
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>what Rhode Island is because it's just Jersey, you know, right,

636
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<v Speaker 1>but she's on there and it's a it's a good

637
00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>it's a good season. I just couldn't. I can't really

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<v Speaker 1>tell people apart. And that's something that even Andy Cohen

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<v Speaker 1>said on the reunion. He's like a lot of you

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00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:08.519
<v Speaker 1>as are saying that we cannot tell you apart based

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<v Speaker 1>on your extensions and the work you've had done.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. That is very true except for Ashley, Yes, exactly,

643
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<v Speaker 2>But I couldn't tell any one. Of the things that

644
00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:21.559
<v Speaker 2>made watching the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives difficult was

645
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<v Speaker 2>I never did figure out the difference between a lot

646
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<v Speaker 2>of ya, not even a single thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But Ashley is really I always liked her, even when

648
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:30.840
<v Speaker 1>she was crying, even when we mocked her a little

649
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:33.760
<v Speaker 1>on like Bachelor in Paradise, Like she got, she got

650
00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>what she came for. She she dug her heels in,

651
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.800
<v Speaker 1>heels in and got her. Man's got her really cute

652
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:42.199
<v Speaker 1>poor Man's Ashton Kutcher.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like and I like the guy. He really

654
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't want anything much to do.

655
00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:47.679
<v Speaker 1>He'll show up on the Housewives ever now and then,

656
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:49.760
<v Speaker 1>but he really just wants to run his little coffee shop.

657
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<v Speaker 1>And he seems so humble and cute and I don't

658
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:56.280
<v Speaker 1>know how happy they are. Probably not, but I got

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<v Speaker 1>to say I really like her, so to end on

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<v Speaker 1>a positive note.

661
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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't he have like a failing coffee shop or something.

662
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:05.800
<v Speaker 2>I think that's probably why they agreed to do it.

663
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<v Speaker 2>That's what he focuses.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he'll show up on the show and they

665
00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:12.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of argue about like him always working. But they're

666
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<v Speaker 1>trying to plug the coffee shop. And I don't know

667
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<v Speaker 1>how much it's going to help because I don't know

668
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<v Speaker 1>how many people are going to go to Rhode Island

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<v Speaker 1>to go to this right place.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're her, are you like okay, like we're

671
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:25.960
<v Speaker 2>we're we have this sort of big platform. Maybe we

672
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:29.760
<v Speaker 2>should start some other business that's a little safer, like

673
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:32.760
<v Speaker 2>something we could sell, like a like make our own

674
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<v Speaker 2>soaps and sell them on our Instagram. You know, it's

675
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<v Speaker 2>like a coffee shop, really, I mean, and I think

676
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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of cute. I like them. I'm sticking by it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know what's going to happen, but I

678
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:46.320
<v Speaker 1>like her. I think she's a good person. She deserves

679
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<v Speaker 1>better than all of this socality.

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<v Speaker 2>Shit. Well, I'm gonna I'm going to leave us. You

681
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:52.199
<v Speaker 2>left us on a nice note, but I'm going to

682
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:55.880
<v Speaker 2>leave us on a less a less positive note. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's something that we all need to know about,

684
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:02.880
<v Speaker 2>and that is we of Sarper and we're worried about

685
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Chakaina and Chakaina about her. What I had a weird

686
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:10.800
<v Speaker 2>dream about China that we were really good friends. Oh well,

687
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<v Speaker 2>that's neither your support because Chakaina, her last name is Garner,

688
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:20.960
<v Speaker 2>shocked her followers this week after posting an emotional Instagram

689
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:25.360
<v Speaker 2>reel showing herself shaving her head completely bald, a moment

690
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:28.639
<v Speaker 2>she described as freeing after years of struggling with hair

691
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:32.440
<v Speaker 2>loss and wearing wigs daily. Okay, so then there's her

692
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:37.400
<v Speaker 2>well yes, yes, but or yes And in her caption,

693
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<v Speaker 2>she kind of explained that she was tired of watching

694
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<v Speaker 2>her hair fall out in handfuls and letting it consume

695
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<v Speaker 2>her mentally, so she removed all the color and shaved

696
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<v Speaker 2>it off to reclaim her confidence. She wrote that she

697
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<v Speaker 2>wanted to feel free from feeling like my hair had

698
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<v Speaker 2>anything to do with my beauty, a vulnerable admission that

699
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<v Speaker 2>immediately resonated with fans, especially after everything she she's been

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with publicly over the last few months. And that

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00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:08.719
<v Speaker 2>is that this drastic transformation comes on the heels of

702
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:13.039
<v Speaker 2>a messy and very public split from Sarper. Did you

703
00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:18.519
<v Speaker 2>know that whose explosive reaction to her social media activity

704
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:22.440
<v Speaker 2>recently went viral. Their marriage had already been crumbling under

705
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:27.360
<v Speaker 2>the pressure of reality TV exposure, online trolling, and constant criticism,

706
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:32.079
<v Speaker 2>but the final blow came when fans sent Sarper screenshots

707
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:37.800
<v Speaker 2>of Chicaina's comments about another cast member. He allegedly lashed out,

708
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:41.719
<v Speaker 2>calling her names, demanding she remove his family name, and

709
00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:46.840
<v Speaker 2>accusing her of humiliating him. The relationship had long been

710
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:50.280
<v Speaker 2>labeled toxic by viewers, and Chicaina herself admitted that the

711
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:54.599
<v Speaker 2>show worsened her body dysmorphia, made her a target for bullying,

712
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:59.559
<v Speaker 2>and destroyed the stability of her marriage, and she says

713
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<v Speaker 2>the divorce, combined with NonStop online harassment, pushed her to

714
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<v Speaker 2>publicly announce she would never return to the Ninety Day

715
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<v Speaker 2>Fiance franchise again.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a wise choice. Sorry to see them go.

717
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:15.159
<v Speaker 1>They were ridiculous. We did not enjoy watching them. The

718
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:17.320
<v Speaker 1>only reason we turned changed our mind on Starper is

719
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:20.039
<v Speaker 1>because Stephanie hired him to make me a cameo for

720
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:23.960
<v Speaker 1>my birthday and it was very good. Yeah, we were like,

721
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I guess we like him, but I'm team Shakaina. I

722
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:31.039
<v Speaker 1>didn't like especially either of them. And listen, she was

723
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:33.519
<v Speaker 1>in our lives for a long time on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm proud of her for taking a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of her power back.

726
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, taking a break from the I mean, reality TV

727
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:47.599
<v Speaker 2>is pretty toxic except for Ashley. All Right, you guys, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for being here.

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00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:52.719
<v Speaker 1>If you're not on our Patreon and you kind of

730
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:55.239
<v Speaker 1>miss even if you don't miss our old bord afs,

731
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:57.320
<v Speaker 1>that's where you want to go. We already have a

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00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:00.599
<v Speaker 1>fun one up this week and going to like it

733
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:02.519
<v Speaker 1>and like we have hours and hours and hours of

734
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<v Speaker 1>Patreon bonuses, get all up in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the one we're doing, the one we're doing this

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<v Speaker 2>week is about crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really fun, crazy people ghosting people and weird. Really

738
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<v Speaker 1>it's called dating Threads. We're going to do a full

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00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:20.480
<v Speaker 1>thing on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, all right, thanks everybody, love you, Bye.