Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray WBZ Costs Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you, damn. As we move into the
Speaker 2: ten o'clock hour here in a Monday night, Boy, it
Speaker 2: seems like I'm going to have a really lousy week,
Speaker 2: rain and cold. I was watching some of the weather
Speaker 2: forecasts tonight. Might welcome on Channel five and I'll tell
Speaker 2: you he was saying, like on Thursday on northeaster, and
Speaker 2: it was going to have temperatures in the fifties. Maybe
Speaker 2: in some places, wouldn't get out of the forties. This
Speaker 2: is May anyway, that's New England. I guess at some
Speaker 2: point you would think that the weather will turn for
Speaker 2: us and turn in a better direction. I don't know.
Speaker 2: We'll have to wait and see. Okay, there was an
Speaker 2: interesting and very interesting Supreme Court decision that came down today.
Speaker 2: President Trump, all of his various executive orders and efforts
Speaker 2: to change the direction of the country have been challenged
Speaker 2: in court, and generally you have this scenario of this
Speaker 2: situation where a single federal district court judge, often appointed
Speaker 2: sometimes appointed by Donald Trump, but very often appointed by
Speaker 2: the President Biden of President Obama. Rayve in some cases
Speaker 2: President Clinton. Some of them going back that who are
Speaker 2: on the bench for a long time. So there's a
Speaker 2: program that's called temporary protected status, and that program basically
Speaker 2: says to people from certain countries, Hey, you're going to
Speaker 2: get protected status here in America because it may be
Speaker 2: too dangerous for you to return home. Now you can
Speaker 2: return home if you want, but of course most people
Speaker 2: here are going to want to stay here. A federal
Speaker 2: judge in San Francisco, who I believe, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: was appointed by President Biden. He basically said, no, wait
Speaker 2: a second, the president cannot end temporary protected status, even
Speaker 2: though when you think about the name temporary protected status.
Speaker 2: The first word reading from the New York Times report
Speaker 2: written by Adam Liptac and Abby Vin Sickle the Supreme
Speaker 2: Court on Monday, meaning today, let the Trump administration for
Speaker 2: now remove protections from nearly three hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 2: Venezuelan immigrants who had been allowed to remain in the
Speaker 2: United States without risk of deportation under a program called
Speaker 2: temporary protected status. This brief order was unsigned. There was
Speaker 2: not a written opinion with it, but basically, because it's
Speaker 2: an emergency application, the vote is we can't be sure
Speaker 2: of the vote. We know that although no vote count
Speaker 2: was listed, only one. Justice, Katanji Brown Jackson, noted that
Speaker 2: she would deny the administration's request, which was to overturn
Speaker 2: the order of the federal judge in San Francisco, and
Speaker 2: his order had been upheld by the Ninth Circuit. So
Speaker 2: the justices announced that they will allow the Trump administration
Speaker 2: to end the protections pending appeal of the case. So
Speaker 2: the case will be heard, but in the meantime, as
Speaker 2: long as the temporary Protected Status has been vacated, this
Speaker 2: will allow the administration to move ahead with deportations. But
Speaker 2: the justices also said that they would preserve the ability,
Speaker 2: meaning disorder from the court preserve the ability of individual
Speaker 2: immigrants to bring some legal challenges if the government tried
Speaker 2: to cancel their work permits or to remove them from
Speaker 2: the from the country. So it's a little bit more complicated,
Speaker 2: but it is a big victory at least in the
Speaker 2: short term by for the Trump administration. The Temporary Protected
Speaker 2: Status program, enacted by Congress and signed into law by
Speaker 2: President George H. W. Bush, allow migrants from nations that
Speaker 2: have experienced national disasters, armed conflicts, or other extraordinary instabilities
Speaker 2: to live and work legally in the US. I think
Speaker 2: that the times might mean have experienced natural disasters, not
Speaker 2: national disasters, but natural disasters. Would we could use that
Speaker 2: as a synonym Trump. Mister Trump had tried to end
Speaker 2: protection under the program as he seek to make good
Speaker 2: in his campaign promise to deport millions of immigrants. His
Speaker 2: efforts aim to terminate protections for nearly three hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty thousand people in early April and for hundreds of
Speaker 2: thousands more later this year. So that is an interesting
Speaker 2: ruling by the US Supreme Court today. And I think
Speaker 2: that I would like to talk a little bit about
Speaker 2: the shift of political wins in this country and that
Speaker 2: President Trump is just returned from what would appear to
Speaker 2: be a successful trip to the Middle East, Saudi Arabia,
Speaker 2: uaa Qatar, Cutter and that seems to have gone pretty well.
Speaker 2: The announcement that President former President Biden sadly is now
Speaker 2: dealing with a serious diagnosis cancer. They have this lease
Speaker 2: and scale from one to ten, ten being the least
Speaker 2: serious and ten being the most serious, and he's nine
Speaker 2: on the gleas and scale. President Trump and his wife
Speaker 2: issued a very heartfelt best wishes to not only former
Speaker 2: President Biden, but to his wife. So all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: the political wins seem to have begun to at least
Speaker 2: blow in the direction of President Trump. Obviously, the stock
Speaker 2: market has recovered the losses that were arguably inflicted by
Speaker 2: President Trump when he imposed the tariffs in April, and
Speaker 2: it just seems things are beginning to go in his
Speaker 2: direct politically. I know that gasoline prices are down, although
Speaker 2: they could be up in your local gas station, could
Speaker 2: be up a couple of cents. One of my listeners
Speaker 2: today sent me an email to that effect, But they
Speaker 2: are certainly down substantially from where they were. Oil prices
Speaker 2: remained down all of these things. So what I'd like
Speaker 2: to do is get your reaction to the Supreme Court decision.
Speaker 2: Are you vexed by this? Do you feel that this
Speaker 2: is going to give the president license to deport more people,
Speaker 2: including obviously members of that group that has been characterized
Speaker 2: as a terrorist group from Venezuela Trende to Agua. That
Speaker 2: does not mean that every Venezuelan who is in this
Speaker 2: country is a terrorist, and I want to emphasize that,
Speaker 2: but it certainly might make it easier for the president
Speaker 2: to deport some of the worst of the worst, people
Speaker 2: who are here not to find a better life in
Speaker 2: the traditional sense, but are here to re establish themselves
Speaker 2: as a group here. Basically, we have enough organized crime
Speaker 2: in America of various different types. We don't need more.
Speaker 2: We don't need to open our borders. The borders are
Speaker 2: now closed, which is another thing that I think President
Speaker 2: Trump it will benefit by. That's the one issue I
Speaker 2: think that he is. He gets the highest marks from
Speaker 2: folks across the board, So I just want to open
Speaker 2: it up. It's not open lines, but I just love
Speaker 2: to know if you agree or disagree things seem to
Speaker 2: be settling down. I'd love to know if you perceive
Speaker 2: that or if you think I'm totally wrong. I know
Speaker 2: that there's a good number of people in my audience
Speaker 2: who will ever applaud Donald Trump virtually everything. And I
Speaker 2: know that there are some people in my audience who
Speaker 2: will applaud him no matter what I might say. But
Speaker 2: I just want to get a sense. And if you
Speaker 2: are a Trump voter and you're pretty happy right now,
Speaker 2: I can understand that. If you're somebody who voted for
Speaker 2: him reluctantly and am surprised to disappointed, love to hear
Speaker 2: from you. And if you're a Biden voter, if you
Speaker 2: are steadfast in your belief that he is a clear
Speaker 2: and present danger, feel free. If, on the other hand,
Speaker 2: you feel that well, maybe some of his ideas are
Speaker 2: working out better than you expected, they feel free to
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's see what people have to say, Let's see
Speaker 2: what people have to think and again. Uh, if you've
Speaker 2: never called the show before one, join the conversation. Jump
Speaker 2: in the pool. The water's final Let me go to
Speaker 2: Lauren and Plymouth. Hey, Lauren, how are you tonight? Welcome?
Speaker 3: Hi Dan?
Speaker 2: Hey? What's going on down in Plymouth?
Speaker 3: Oh boy, well, it's getting busy because it's tour season.
Speaker 3: I'm actually here just for the summer seasonally. I'm a
Speaker 3: street vendor.
Speaker 2: Oh really, So where do you spend? Where do you
Speaker 2: spend the winters? Are you from New England?
Speaker 3: I am. I'm actually born and raised Ashland, mass and
Speaker 3: then I lived I rented a big house in Lhington
Speaker 3: for a while, and then Milford ten years now I'm
Speaker 3: in Uxbridge.
Speaker 2: Whoa all right? Moving around there? All right? So so
Speaker 2: you down there as a street vendor?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Is do you work for some company or is this
Speaker 2: your own your own side hustle.
Speaker 3: I have a license, I have the I have the
Speaker 3: I have the vending license to do it.
Speaker 2: Really, okay? What what? What? What are your wears? So
Speaker 2: in case somebody sees you, they can they can tell
Speaker 2: you I heard you on night side bright colors, bright colors?
Speaker 1: Okay, with your name.
Speaker 3: With your name on the front, with your radio station.
Speaker 3: I just texted everybody I knew to tune in.
Speaker 1: So this is well, this is.
Speaker 3: So unlike me to call. But you know, you really
Speaker 3: struck a chord with a few things.
Speaker 1: That you said.
Speaker 2: Well, go ahead, I'm all ears. I'd love to hear you.
Speaker 2: They've called before, right, I seem to remember you from before,
Speaker 2: maybe maybe the super.
Speaker 3: I think I may have called many many years ago,
Speaker 3: maybe a decade or so.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, well you got to combine more often. Go ahead,
Speaker 2: I'm listening. I want to hear what you got to say.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, thanks Dan, I really enjoy your show,
Speaker 3: and I consider myself an independent. I don't even know
Speaker 3: if there's a name for where I you know, I
Speaker 3: think most Americans are lean on both sides now because
Speaker 3: you know, politically, the world is just so confused and
Speaker 3: screwed up. I like some of the things that Trump does,
Speaker 3: and you know, some of the things that he does,
Speaker 3: I don't like it all goes from the Democrats with
Speaker 3: this immigrant Yeah go ahead, No, I said, I'm very.
Speaker 2: Much where you are at this point. You want to
Speaker 2: call me an independent, unenrolled or whatever, I'm right, I
Speaker 2: mean registered, you know, as un enrolled voter in Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: I can vote in whatever direction I want. I feel
Speaker 2: loyalty to any party because anybody any party has a
Speaker 2: loyalty to me. Go I'm listening. I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3: You know it's really it's really upsetting and disappointing. I
Speaker 3: have a teenage daughter at home, and I'm a renter
Speaker 3: and I rent because you know, I do do a
Speaker 3: lot of traveling around the country during different tours and seasons,
Speaker 3: depending upon what state it is. I'm forty five years old,
Speaker 3: and I got to tell you this whole immigration thing,
Speaker 3: and it's it's really really screwed up the housing situation.
Speaker 3: What's happening is Americans like myself, middle class Americans who
Speaker 3: are hard working, who have two jobs, raising kids, we're
Speaker 3: suffering because the market it's you know, they're they're jacking
Speaker 3: up the prices so high because what's happening is they
Speaker 3: don't want harder and money. And I don't know how
Speaker 3: this is going to sound to some of the viewers,
Speaker 3: but the Section eight and then this and then that,
Speaker 3: and the and the benefits that these people get. What's
Speaker 3: happening is, you know, the landlords, they want that money.
Speaker 3: It's guaranteed they're paying more. Section eight offers a higher
Speaker 3: higher amount than what they were typically charging prior. And
Speaker 3: I love people I consider myself a liberal leaving liberal.
Speaker 3: I have a deep sympathy and empathy for every country
Speaker 3: and person that lives on this planet, and I wish
Speaker 3: we could save them all. And I believe we could
Speaker 3: if all the billionaires got together and donated some of
Speaker 3: their money. I really do believe that we could make
Speaker 3: a massive impact on hunger and many other things. But
Speaker 3: getting back to the topic, you know, the one thing
Speaker 3: I do think that most Americans can agree on is
Speaker 3: that it's time to start deporting. And I hate that word,
Speaker 3: but I just think that this is not the time
Speaker 3: for us to be housing people when our own people
Speaker 3: who live here, the citizens who have lived here for generations,
Speaker 3: we can't even find housing and afford it without working
Speaker 3: two three jobs. We're suffering.
Speaker 2: I think you represent a viewpoint that a lot of
Speaker 2: people hold. We have veterans who have fought for this
Speaker 2: country in far flung parts of the world who come
Speaker 2: home and there's very little help for them. And you're right.
Speaker 3: When you know it makes me want to cry because
Speaker 3: I want to save them all. I mean, you know something,
Speaker 3: if we had the housing and we had enough funding
Speaker 3: to help the citizens and bring them in, I would
Speaker 3: be so all for it.
Speaker 2: I would, I would, I would do the other the
Speaker 2: other thing, and I'll just try to clarify one thing,
Speaker 2: and that is that I think that we do need
Speaker 2: people to come into this country. Every year. We only
Speaker 2: naturalize about about a million people a year, and we're
Speaker 2: a country of three hundred million people. However, and I
Speaker 2: think you might agree with me on this, I want
Speaker 2: to know who's coming in the country. I want to
Speaker 2: know what their background is, and I want to know
Speaker 2: what skill set they bring to the country. I don't
Speaker 2: know if they're if they're doctors, nurses, which we vitally need,
Speaker 2: or if they're people are street well we we are, okay,
Speaker 2: but that's fine. But what it is you know, someone
Speaker 2: who picks vegetables or fruit. I mean, they're critically important
Speaker 2: as well, but we got to know who they are.
Speaker 2: We have allowed open borders, rapists, child molesters, murderers, they're
Speaker 2: Americans who had died or whose children died, or who
Speaker 2: have been raped or have been molested. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: some bad people that came across the border. We had
Speaker 2: probably twenty million people come across the border in the
Speaker 2: last few years. And it's all well and good to say, oh,
Speaker 2: we're the most generous people in the world, and the
Speaker 2: Statue of Liberty and all of the h but.
Speaker 3: I tell us groups that are reasonable, we don't have
Speaker 3: the staff and to do that, we don't have the times.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is when people came into Ellis Island,
Speaker 2: remember this, they were checked meetically, and if they had
Speaker 2: some form of communical disease like tuberculosis, they were turned away.
Speaker 2: They were turned away. We have no idea who's coming
Speaker 2: across the border in the last twenty years.
Speaker 3: And by the way, they were working in numbers that
Speaker 3: were far less.
Speaker 1: Of course, you know these numbers that.
Speaker 3: We're working with today. We don't even have the time.
Speaker 3: In the twenty four hours a day, I mean, our
Speaker 3: staff that worked the borders, they wouldn't be.
Speaker 2: Able to sleep, no question. And the other thing that
Speaker 2: I think is just so important is that it's easy
Speaker 2: to say, oh, come one, come on, but we can't
Speaker 2: deal with that. We have to take care of our
Speaker 2: senior citizens. We have to take care of people who
Speaker 2: happen to have been fortunate enough to have been born
Speaker 2: here in American citizens. We have to take care of
Speaker 2: people with disabilities. We have a big family, a big
Speaker 2: American family. We can bring more people in, but we
Speaker 2: got to know who they are and what their purpose
Speaker 2: isn't coming here, And that's not too much to ask.
Speaker 2: If I'm going to have a big party at my
Speaker 2: house or you're going to have a big party at
Speaker 2: your house, you want to know who I am. You
Speaker 2: want to make sure that that you don't put hang
Speaker 2: out a sign party at Lawrence because people will call up,
Speaker 2: come and show up for the wrong reasons. Lauren, I
Speaker 2: love you. Call I'm at ten thirty and I got
Speaker 2: to go to.
Speaker 1: Right, go ahead.
Speaker 5: Ans to the viewers.
Speaker 3: I just want to say, if you're raising children, especially
Speaker 3: young teens, take them out to the cities, take them
Speaker 3: to the areas where there's homeless people, and have your
Speaker 3: children hand out little bags with socks, a five dollars bill,
Speaker 3: one dollar bill, a care bag. Let the kids see
Speaker 3: what's happening in this country with a homeless situation. Get
Speaker 3: them involved. And that said, Dan Ray, have a good night, all.
Speaker 2: Right, come on back soon, Okay, I want to next
Speaker 2: time I'm in Plymouth, I'm going to look for you.
Speaker 2: It's a street vender.
Speaker 3: Thanks, all right, even discount sales.
Speaker 2: Bye, good night only line open six one, seven, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty. Uh is the political atmosphere of moving in
Speaker 2: the direction the winds of change now blowing in the
Speaker 2: direction of Donald Trump. Uh. It seems to me, and
Speaker 2: I'm just talking as a political observer, it's like I'm
Speaker 2: watching a baseball game, and it looks to me as
Speaker 2: if he's putting some points on the score word board.
Speaker 2: Joined the conversation back on night Side right after this,
Speaker 2: I got Mike and Peter coming up, and I got
Speaker 2: some room for you. Okay, we got full lines. Let's
Speaker 2: go to Mike and Beverly. Mike next to Nightside, go ahead.
Speaker 6: Hey, indeed, Hammy.
Speaker 2: I can hear you. Fine, where are you sounding. You're
Speaker 2: in the top of Mount Washington. I can hear you.
Speaker 2: Find Mike, what's on your mind?
Speaker 6: No, I just think the finally the Trump agenda is
Speaker 6: working its way through. When the Democrat speak out has
Speaker 6: been overturned by the Supine burd you know a lot
Speaker 6: of sort of stuff that the Democrats are freaking out
Speaker 6: about as the Supine Court has overturned and and made
Speaker 6: it the right way on a lot of different things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well, it's kind of a mixed bag from
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court at this point. The ruling today on
Speaker 2: a short term basis gives him some flexibility on how
Speaker 2: to deal with Venezuelan's who were here under temporary protected status. Again,
Speaker 2: and it's temporary protected status, it's not forever protected status.
Speaker 2: There will be other decisions that come down. But you
Speaker 2: just get a sense that maybe maybe the political winds
Speaker 2: are shifting somewhat in terms of In early April, when
Speaker 2: he came down with Liberation Day and the and the
Speaker 2: stock market tank, I mean, it looked as if he
Speaker 2: had made a huge mistake. Now he is backed off
Speaker 2: that a little bit, but at least he had the
Speaker 2: sense to do that. I think he had a successful
Speaker 2: trip to the Middle East. He had a two hour
Speaker 2: conversation with Vladimir Putin today. I think Putin is going
Speaker 2: to be a tough nut to crack in terms of
Speaker 2: the Ukraine. But if he ever can get Putin to
Speaker 2: back off Ukraine, there's a lot. There's a lot going
Speaker 2: on in the White House right now.
Speaker 6: Oh, I get it. I mean that's the big thing too.
Speaker 6: He get that reconciliation bill pass this week. The Markt's
Speaker 6: gonna go through the room. Yes, I think his ns
Speaker 6: should be if he gets that bill passed, he should
Speaker 6: be MP cannidate. By getting that that bill passed through
Speaker 6: the House.
Speaker 1: Is in it.
Speaker 2: Well, I would just say this to you, don't take
Speaker 2: that one for granted. I mean, it lost a committee
Speaker 2: vote on Friday night and there were four Republicans who
Speaker 2: voted with the Democrats against that. So yeah, I'm just
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that the game is over here.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that that if I was a baseball announcement,
Speaker 2: and if we were in the second or third inning,
Speaker 2: you'd say, gee, that team is doing a little bit
Speaker 2: better than maybe expected. That's all.
Speaker 6: Yeah, But they worked all weekend and those those people
Speaker 6: voted President on Novo so at passed last night.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're accurate, You're you're accurate. It got out of committee.
Speaker 2: But you know, but you have different factions there. You
Speaker 2: got some of the uh some of the northern Republicans
Speaker 2: in New York State and they're in the high tax states.
Speaker 2: They want to want to lift the amount of money
Speaker 2: that that people can can take his federal tax deductions.
Speaker 2: You have others who think that, uh, it needs to
Speaker 2: be tougher on this. It's it's what do they say
Speaker 2: watching watching laws passes like watching sausages made it's better
Speaker 2: to all right, well, Mike, I I think we're in
Speaker 2: agreement that that, as of now, at least, maybe the
Speaker 2: winds are blowing in his direction. But we'll say sometimes
Speaker 2: political winds change. Thanks, Mike, appreciate you calling. Thanks, we're
Speaker 2: going you two. Let me go next to uh Bob
Speaker 2: in Rhode Island. Bob, you were next on nightside.
Speaker 7: Welcome, good Dan. I'm glad to be the next one.
Speaker 7: You think Trump is winning the court battles? Now, I
Speaker 7: think I don't know where you get that impression.
Speaker 2: Watch. We'll just you know, read if you get the
Speaker 2: chance to. Do you get the New York Times? Yeah?
Speaker 7: I can read. I can read, buddy.
Speaker 2: I just want to I know if you've got the
Speaker 2: New York Times down there, there's an interesting article.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 7: No, I don't invest in three four douse five dollars
Speaker 7: for a newspaper.
Speaker 2: So what what newspapers do you rely on down there,
Speaker 2: Providence journal.
Speaker 7: I rely on people like you and the WPR a
Speaker 7: lot a.
Speaker 2: Lot of Well, I just was explaining that today the
Speaker 2: Supreme Court is a court. I'll reach you the headline
Speaker 2: from the time Supreme Court lets Trump lift deportation protections
Speaker 2: for Venezuelans. Basically, the the Court today are by an
Speaker 2: eight to one vote, basically allowed the Trump administration to
Speaker 2: remove protections for nearly three hundred and fifty thousand Venezuelan
Speaker 2: immigrants who had been allowed to stay in the US
Speaker 2: without risk of deportation under that program known as Temporary
Speaker 2: Protected Status. And it was It's a it's one small
Speaker 2: positive from Donald Trump's perspective. I know that you're not
Speaker 2: a big Trump fan, and I respect.
Speaker 1: That you're right.
Speaker 7: You're right, You're absolutely right.
Speaker 2: I know my call is pretty well and I appreciate
Speaker 2: the fact that you're willing to engage.
Speaker 7: I listened to you. I listened to you, Dan.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, and I appreciate the fact that you
Speaker 2: take the time to call you. Don't you feel that
Speaker 2: he's still fighting an uphill battle, I assume is what you.
Speaker 2: I hope, so, okay, I understand that.
Speaker 7: Well. I got one more thing, if you don't mind, absolutely,
Speaker 7: how about Ellis Island. My grandparents came through the Ellis Island.
Speaker 7: I you just saying there was a They were running
Speaker 7: a great scrutiny back in the nineteen hundreds of nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the early nineteen hundreds when Ellis Island was
Speaker 2: the port of entry. If people came here, particularly with tuberculosis,
Speaker 2: they were turned away. I mean it probably was pretty
Speaker 2: considered by today's standards, pretty cruel. But here's what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: and maybe I can reach a little point of agreement
Speaker 2: with you. Just beer with me for second.
Speaker 7: I'll bear with you.
Speaker 2: You know that we we basically naturalize about a million people,
Speaker 2: a little less than a million people every year as
Speaker 2: new US citizens. Okay, that's the number. Trust me. Okay,
Speaker 2: I think we could increase that number, double it or
Speaker 2: triple it because we have a birth rate in this
Speaker 2: country which is quite low. It does it's not even
Speaker 2: at the replacement level. Okay, they say that, you know,
Speaker 2: the birth rate should be two point one in order
Speaker 2: to replace you know, a generation, a generation.
Speaker 7: Are you really worried about the birth rate? Yeah, the
Speaker 7: world I'm worried about.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you. I don't know how old you are.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious.
Speaker 7: Are you close to seventy five?
Speaker 2: I got it, I got it.
Speaker 7: Well, baby boom, I'm a baby boomer, like myself.
Speaker 2: We're both baby boomers. Okay, one of the things baby
Speaker 2: boomers should be concerned about, Bob, is our social Security
Speaker 2: payments and where there are fewer people work in these days.
Speaker 2: We need more people working and we need generations coming along.
Speaker 2: But I don't want to get distracted to what I
Speaker 2: was trying to say.
Speaker 7: Beause there's one more thing I want.
Speaker 2: Hold on. Let me finish my thought, because I think
Speaker 2: you might agree with me, believe it or not. I
Speaker 2: suggest that we should allow two or three million people
Speaker 2: to commit the country legally every year. Would you agree with.
Speaker 7: Me a lot?
Speaker 2: And here's the only caveat that I would put on that.
Speaker 2: I want to make sure we know who the people are,
Speaker 2: what their background is, and why they're coming here. So
Speaker 2: if we need doctors and nurses, which I think we do,
Speaker 2: and they're coming here from anywhere in the world, and
Speaker 2: they're qualified and they're good people, head of the line,
Speaker 2: head of the line, if we need people, do you
Speaker 2: agree with me? That's all I'm mean.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it sounds good.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 2: Good, That's all I'm saying. And if if we need people.
Speaker 7: To tell me one more thing I wanted to say.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna cut you off.
Speaker 7: I just want one other questions.
Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, good, we're having We're having a good conversation.
Speaker 2: And if there are people, if we need people to
Speaker 2: pick fruit or vegetables, let them go to the head
Speaker 2: of the line as well. We need to have It's
Speaker 2: like if you have a party at your house, Bob,
Speaker 2: you just don't open the doors and let everybody in
Speaker 2: Rhode Island in. You want people to commit who you know?
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. Go ahead. You wanted to meet
Speaker 2: another point.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, go ahead. The saying was back and then
Speaker 7: give me a poor downtrodden. I think there was a
Speaker 7: famous saying give me your poor brown trodden.
Speaker 2: That's what the statue to you.
Speaker 7: In the United States of America. I don't think they're
Speaker 7: doing that anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm suggesting, as you just agreed with me, I
Speaker 2: think we invite more.
Speaker 7: I agree with you, But I had this thing, I think,
Speaker 7: can't you agree with me? Is Trump doing that good
Speaker 7: a job?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 7: How was there I have that much problems? In nineteen
Speaker 7: hundreds when Ellis Island and Trump wasn't even alive, they.
Speaker 2: Off Ellis Island was was look, Ellis Island. That's probably
Speaker 2: where most people's four beers came into the country. I'm
Speaker 2: agreeing with you, let me agree with you. But what
Speaker 2: I'm saying is they screened people and if people came
Speaker 2: in and they were you know, they had again communicable diseases,
Speaker 2: they were turned away. Okay, and you know that was cruel.
Speaker 7: Joe Biden didn't do that. Joe Biden didn't do that.
Speaker 2: Joe Biden wasn't born. He wasn't born until nineteen forty two.
Speaker 7: It was born eight years ago or four years ago.
Speaker 2: He was born in nineteen forty two November, now I.
Speaker 7: Know, and he was pleasant it until January.
Speaker 2: Oh good, well, thank you very much. I appreciate that
Speaker 2: information as well. Bob was a very conversation. Have a
Speaker 2: great night. We'll be back on Nightside right after the break.
Speaker 7: It's Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Matt and Florida next day. Matt,
Speaker 2: welcome next to the Nightside. How are you.
Speaker 1: Come back to follow?
Speaker 5: I got one guy calling from a laundry machine, a
Speaker 5: Washington machine, and then and then the next guy who
Speaker 5: thinks Joe Biden was a good president. Again, I got
Speaker 5: a question. I'm in Florida, but I always get like
Speaker 5: Boston News on it on my phone. Yes, and my my,
Speaker 5: heally's taking credit for shutting down all the home all
Speaker 5: the migrant shelters.
Speaker 2: I don't know in the hell, I don't know if
Speaker 2: she's taking credit, but I'll tell you this, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: she's shutting him down.
Speaker 1: She was legitimate. I used to think she was a
Speaker 1: legitimate politician, like a smart person.
Speaker 5: Is she?
Speaker 1: Are there anything as such thing as an honest politician?
Speaker 1: I mean, I give me one person with any kind
Speaker 1: of credibility. It's just insane to me. It's is there anyone?
Speaker 2: I think that there was some. I think there were
Speaker 2: there were there are some. And I think with with Heally,
Speaker 2: I think that you and I probably disagree with some
Speaker 2: of the things she's done. And I think that that
Speaker 2: she she's sensing the political wins in Massachusetts. She's a
Speaker 2: pretty good politician in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Master she's at the Celtics games.
Speaker 5: Half of her time spent at the Celtics games bragging
Speaker 5: about how she played basketball in college, and then the
Speaker 5: other half is just taking credit.
Speaker 1: For stuff that she was one hundred percent against. Two
Speaker 1: weeks ago. It's hilarious. It's just it modulate.
Speaker 2: Maybe she's getting ready for re elections. She realized that
Speaker 2: this is an issue that she needs to she needs
Speaker 2: to change direction on. That's what politicians are.
Speaker 1: The reason the reason the migrant shelters a clothing is
Speaker 1: because Ice is up there shipping everyone off. I mean,
Speaker 1: give me a freaking break. It's unbelievable. I just I
Speaker 1: had to call on that. It's just hilarious to me.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, that's all I had. Thanks for a look.
Speaker 2: I appreciate Hey, let me ask you. You've never told
Speaker 2: me this guy, how old are you?
Speaker 1: I just turned forty. I mean, listen to me for
Speaker 1: twenty years.
Speaker 2: Do me a favor, Do me a favor. Tell all
Speaker 2: your friends in Florida. I want to get more listeners
Speaker 2: like Matt who are in their thirties and forties.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's I'm trying.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's seriously. I love all my listeners. But
Speaker 2: you know, look, I I don't know you know how.
Speaker 2: I think it's great when I hear from young people.
Speaker 2: I thought that Lawrence Call was great in the first
Speaker 2: the first all tonight, you know, and I just appreciate
Speaker 2: you as a call.
Speaker 1: You know that I'm not so young anymore. I used
Speaker 1: to think I was, and now I'm not. I'm getting
Speaker 1: into that older generation at this.
Speaker 2: Point, but I'm forty years old. You're small enough to
Speaker 2: know what the value of things are at this point.
Speaker 2: Thanks Buddy. The Doug.
Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of like what you said once. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like what you said once. And you know,
Speaker 1: I used to think I was some pretentious, you know,
Speaker 1: a twenty year old when I first started calling you,
Speaker 1: And that whole phrase really is true. If you're not a.
Speaker 5: Liberal when you're young, you have no soul.
Speaker 1: And if you're not a little more conservative, you know
Speaker 1: twenty years later, you have no brain. It's really the truth.
Speaker 1: I mean, it really is.
Speaker 2: Thanks Tom, Thanks Matt Love the call man. Be Well, okay,
Speaker 2: you got some nice weather down there. We got some
Speaker 2: miserable weather coming up this week. Ken is in Waldam. Hey, Ken,
Speaker 2: welcome back.
Speaker 1: How are you great?
Speaker 4: How are you Dan?
Speaker 2: I'm doing just great. I love to get your perspective
Speaker 2: of this.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, the first, you know, I did want to talk
Speaker 4: about gas prices, and simply my message to you today
Speaker 4: was they have not they're certainly way.
Speaker 1: Down from last year, but they're.
Speaker 4: Actually up a couple of pennies nationwide since Trump took office.
Speaker 4: And it just seems like.
Speaker 2: The only thing I'd say to you it and I'm
Speaker 2: so glad you're called is that one. There is always
Speaker 2: a little bit of a bump in May because of
Speaker 2: the different types of gas that are used in the
Speaker 2: summer for the so called summer driving season. But you know,
Speaker 2: I think it's a legitimate point you made, and I'm
Speaker 2: comfortable I paid I paid two eighty nine to night.
Speaker 4: What are you paying in wealtham Yep, same amount they're
Speaker 4: down in New England, no question down in New England.
Speaker 2: But right, and of course we tend to be on
Speaker 2: the wrong, the wrong end of the pipeline up here. Ken.
Speaker 2: You know, we got a lot, we got great great
Speaker 2: spring weather, right right right, and you know the Celtics
Speaker 2: are going to win band in nineteen maybe not this year.
Speaker 2: But you know, all of you are saying we get
Speaker 2: the short end of the stick in terms of generally.
Speaker 2: But you know, let's see, I mean, it's a good thing.
Speaker 2: I don't care who's president. If if I pay less
Speaker 2: for gas, that's it for me. That's a good thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no question.
Speaker 4: And my only other part of the message I just
Speaker 4: gave an example was in the Salt Lake City it
Speaker 4: was it was to ninety on January twenty after. Now
Speaker 4: they're paying like three twenty five.
Speaker 2: Well, now what my heart, my heart's breaking for cultics.
Speaker 2: But give it a between them paying three and a quarter,
Speaker 2: are you and me paying three and a quarter? I'm
Speaker 2: gonna give it to them. I'm sorry I need to.
Speaker 4: Be a jerk, but no, no, I guess my only
Speaker 4: point too, or another point was I mean, I don't
Speaker 4: think the Trump administration has anything to do with any
Speaker 4: of these changes at the moment.
Speaker 2: It's as long as they're good, right. Second, hold on,
Speaker 2: do you know what the price of oil is today?
Speaker 1: Oh? How much for a barrel? You mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like sixty two bucks.
Speaker 1: I don't Actually, it's.
Speaker 2: About sixty two bucks a barrow. Uh, there were times
Speaker 2: in the past when it's been as high as hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty. I hope it goes to fifty a barrel,
Speaker 2: you know, And just because I think it's going to
Speaker 2: be good for the economy, it's good for you and me.
Speaker 2: We save a few bucks, But in a larger scale,
Speaker 2: it means more people are going to work, that's all.
Speaker 2: And I don't really care who on who's on who's
Speaker 2: watch that happens. I got to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: I'm not rooting for high gas prices. When Joe Biden
Speaker 2: was president, I was for low gas prices.
Speaker 4: Right, let's see what and hopefully for the rate for
Speaker 4: the right reasons, right, because they did get down to
Speaker 4: one eighty or so when during Trump's first terms. But
Speaker 4: but at that point, the streets were empty, right, I
Speaker 4: mean the highways were empty.
Speaker 2: Right. Well, yes, you're right, you're right, And that was
Speaker 2: when when COVID first hit. You're right, and and that
Speaker 2: was a huge factor. That was an anomaly. But I
Speaker 2: don't think they're going to get to one to eighty again.
Speaker 2: But boy, if we could get him down to fifty
Speaker 2: or so, you know, across the country or I think
Speaker 2: would it would help the economy, It would help unemployment,
Speaker 2: it would be a positive. And that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And you're a fair guy, so and I'm a fair guy.
Speaker 2: If they go back up to four dollars a gallon,
Speaker 2: you know, in September, I'm going to be on here
Speaker 2: saying what's happening what's going on here? Why is it
Speaker 2: going up? I don't know. I mean, if we can
Speaker 2: get if Trump can can somehow get this knucklehead Putin
Speaker 2: to stop throwing missiles in a Ukraine, I'll give him
Speaker 2: credit for it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I wasn't going to go down that route,
Speaker 1: but it.
Speaker 4: I do think Trump's doing everything wrong there.
Speaker 2: And well he's got him talking. I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 2: can you know. I mean, let's see what happens. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's see if all of a sudden tomorrow morning Putin
Speaker 2: decides to throw a nuke in on Kiev. I got
Speaker 2: to agree with you, but let's see ye back in
Speaker 2: the when you and I were both a little younger,
Speaker 2: give piece of chance. Let's give piece of chance.
Speaker 1: Well, I think the so let me. I wanted to
Speaker 1: get one other you.
Speaker 2: I'll hold you through the news here one other thing.
Speaker 2: But they're going to wait the other side of the news.
Speaker 2: Come back to you right after the news, coming back
Speaker 2: right after the eleven