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<v Speaker 1>Hi, mister Jonathan Steinman, and I grew up in Marine County,

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<v Speaker 1>where Fred lives. Currently, I spend most of my time

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<v Speaker 1>between Bridgeton and Cape Elizabeth, Maine, and I'm a member

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<v Speaker 1>of Lake Cheeser Country Club in Level, Maine. A Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Rossporus celebrated gets one hundred and second year. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Golf Smarter episode number one thousand and four.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people haven't experienced, Hey, let's try a

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<v Speaker 2>little lighter, let's try a little heavier, let's try a

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<v Speaker 2>little longer, let's try a little shorter, and they're surprised

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes to go it's interesting. I actually like a lighter

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<v Speaker 2>swingweight and a shorter iron feels more consistent and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't lose any speed. So more than anything, sitting so

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<v Speaker 2>important because you can just try different things and tinker

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<v Speaker 2>and get to understand all the things that can be

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<v Speaker 2>changed in the equipment and what they're doing. Whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>so look the wildcast out like we said, it makes

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<v Speaker 2>golf easier.

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<v Speaker 3>Unlocking the secrets of PXG's new Wildcats set for beginners

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<v Speaker 3>with Kayleb Crowloff is Golf Smarter sharing stories, tips and

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<v Speaker 3>insights from great golf minds. To help you lower your

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<v Speaker 3>score and raise your golf IQ.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's your host, Fred Green.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the Golf Smarter podcast. Caleb, Hello, Fred, You

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<v Speaker 4>doing well today?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing well. How are you?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm fine? Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Wanting to talk about this? So I have recently in

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<v Speaker 3>the audience is well aware of this. I've recently become

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<v Speaker 3>a PXG fan playing the full set, and well not

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<v Speaker 3>the full set. I'm still waiting on wedges and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>curious about the wedges. I haven't gotten there yet, but.

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<v Speaker 4>We can do that.

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<v Speaker 3>But now, PXG what we're going to talk about today

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<v Speaker 3>is introducing a new set for a whole different breed

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<v Speaker 3>of golfer, which I find absolutely fascinating and want to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about that. It's the wild Cat Set. Can you

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<v Speaker 3>explain what the Wildcat PXG or the PXG Wildcat Set is?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely so. The Wildcat Set is a set of PXG

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<v Speaker 2>clubs designed more for entry level beginner players or players

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<v Speaker 2>with more geared towards slower swing speeds. So the whole

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<v Speaker 2>idea behind the Wildcat Set is to make golf fun,

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<v Speaker 2>make it easy. Golfs plenty hard as it is, but

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<v Speaker 2>we want, we want players, especially those who struggle more

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<v Speaker 2>because it's you know, whether they're just don't hit it

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<v Speaker 2>quite as far or quite as high, or new to

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<v Speaker 2>the game in the proper setup. Traditionally, those players don't

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<v Speaker 2>don't get fit, don't get the right set up for them.

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<v Speaker 2>So we want to do everything we can to make

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<v Speaker 2>golf enjoyable and make it fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you need to be fit for this set?

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<v Speaker 2>No, you don't need to be fit. We recommend alwayskind

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<v Speaker 2>of going through it at least a phone call. We're

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<v Speaker 2>able to you know, get through to our fitters on

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<v Speaker 2>our team that work well over the phone, are able

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<v Speaker 2>to walk through even if it's someone who doesn't know

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about golf, is new to the game, and

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<v Speaker 2>say you're this tall, you know, you're around this age range,

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<v Speaker 2>and make a pretty good recommendation. So you don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to go in and get fit. You can, and I

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<v Speaker 2>always highly recommend it. We design golf clubs to be

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<v Speaker 2>fit around here. It's it's you know, to the player's

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<v Speaker 2>benefit always. But if you if you aren't able to

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<v Speaker 2>make it in or for some reason you know, aren't

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable doing that, we're able to help over the phone

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<v Speaker 2>quite a bit. Or you can go through online and

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<v Speaker 2>order as well.

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<v Speaker 3>In my many conversations with listeners throughout the years, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people are.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, I'm kind of new to the game.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just don't feel like I'm ready to get

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<v Speaker 3>fit because my swing isn't there yet. And I have

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<v Speaker 3>to remind them that. But you're no matter how good

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<v Speaker 3>you get, your swing may never be what you wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to be, right, So they're resistant to get fit. And

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<v Speaker 3>we've advocated for years to get fit for clubs because

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<v Speaker 3>it's just going to make you better immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Yeah, that's one of those things. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>hear it all the time. I get a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people talking to me at social gatherings who you know,

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<v Speaker 2>who go, oh, like, you have an interesting job work

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<v Speaker 2>in the golf industry, and then they'll say, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't need to get fit, I'm not that good, or

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<v Speaker 2>I don't play enough. And you know, every tour player

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<v Speaker 2>gets fit. And the thing is the tour players they

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<v Speaker 2>could pick up a box set and go shoot sixty

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<v Speaker 2>five on any given day. They can adjust to it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I have played my whole life and nowhere

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<v Speaker 2>near that level. But even you know, as a single

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<v Speaker 2>digit it's harder for me to adjust to equipment when

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<v Speaker 2>it's not fit right for me. And it's if it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, too long or the wrongly angle or the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong fluck shafts, wrong weight, it's just making it harder.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's no reason not to get fit.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and usually fittings, Well, let me ask you this way,

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<v Speaker 3>is there a cost to be fit for this set? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So the way our fitting system works are generally

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<v Speaker 2>are there's a cost to get fit, but it'll get

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<v Speaker 2>applied towards purchases, so oh great. So yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>if you're if you're gonna buy a set, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's absolutely the way to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely. There.

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<v Speaker 3>The set itself is unique in the sense that, again

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<v Speaker 3>you're looking at new golfers, golfers that are struggling buying

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<v Speaker 3>youth clubs. What about the senior golfer that is just

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<v Speaker 3>and you hear it all the time. I'm just not

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<v Speaker 3>hitting it as far as I used to.

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<v Speaker 4>I just can't.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I can't carry the bag anymore. It's getting

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<v Speaker 3>too heavy. You know, there's a lot of senior golfers

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<v Speaker 3>who still love to play, have been playing, have had

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<v Speaker 3>you know, at various levels of their game, but now

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<v Speaker 3>the swing speed, the body is just not holding up.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this the kind of set that would work for

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<v Speaker 3>senior golfers as well?

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly for some I used. My dad is a good example.

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<v Speaker 2>He's played golf my whole life. He you know, got

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<v Speaker 2>more into it when my brothers and I started playing.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, he he used to hit it really far,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's gotten up there in age and has slowed

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<v Speaker 2>down and had to go to lighter shafts. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>graph fight with lighter flexes and he needs more loft

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, a lot of even game improvement irons

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<v Speaker 2>these days are geared towards distance, and you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>players who struggle to hit it higher, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>great option. So it's not necessarily just I'm a new

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<v Speaker 2>entrant to the game or I had don't play very much.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, if it's the right fit for you,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the right fit. And you know, it just mainly

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<v Speaker 2>for players who struggle to hit it high, and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the times that is slower swingers at the

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<v Speaker 2>golf club.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do I think that I'm older and your dad do?

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<v Speaker 2>Do?

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<v Speaker 4>Has he played this set?

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<v Speaker 2>Has your dad yet? But we'll see. Is a birthday

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<v Speaker 2>coming up?

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<v Speaker 4>So have you talked to him about it? Is he

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<v Speaker 4>open time a little bit?

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<v Speaker 2>We talk. He likes to talk shop every once in

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<v Speaker 2>a while, and he knows talking about golf clubs is

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite subject. So certainly whenever he has a question,

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<v Speaker 2>comes to me and we talk through specs and options,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I think sometimes it's kind of fun too.

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<v Speaker 2>Has more of a like my kind of connect to

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<v Speaker 2>the outside world of more of a a lay person

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to golf equipment. I think sometimes my

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<v Speaker 2>understanding of what the general public knows about golf clubs

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<v Speaker 2>can get skewed by being surrounded by people who are

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<v Speaker 2>very passionate and have an in depth knowledge of golf equipment. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, whether it's my parents, my in laws, my brothers,

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<v Speaker 2>my friends, it's fun to hear from them and talk

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<v Speaker 2>through like what they know, what they don't know? Should

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<v Speaker 2>I get fit? Can I adjust things? All that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. But it's fun to talk to him about

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. And I think he's definitely always

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<v Speaker 2>excited to try the latest and greatest.

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<v Speaker 4>And is he playing any PXG clubs? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's playing PXG stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>He and your brothers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, both my brothers are. I've been here for about

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<v Speaker 2>coming up on ten years now, so.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh is that right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I think at this point it'd be I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be a little consulted, weren't Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that happened to me once. I was doing

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<v Speaker 3>work with Anheuser Busch for years back.

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<v Speaker 4>In the eighties and nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>But I got a call from Saint Louis one day

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<v Speaker 3>with my contact and he goes, so, what are you

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<v Speaker 3>up to? And I said, I'm just sitting here drinking

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<v Speaker 3>a beer. He said what are you drinking? And I

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<v Speaker 3>said a corona dead silence on the phone.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like, oops, that was the wrong answer.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're going to get more into your journey too

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<v Speaker 3>about how you got there. But there is competition kind

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<v Speaker 3>of for what this Wildcat set is. Styx has an

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<v Speaker 3>entry level set of clubs that's very good looking, nice bag,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, for people who are just getting started, and

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<v Speaker 3>one something that looks a little bit nicer than just

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<v Speaker 3>normal set of clubs. Even Costco has a phenomenal set

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<v Speaker 3>that is not expensive. But I don't see that happening

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<v Speaker 3>with a lot of the major brands like PXG, is

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<v Speaker 3>what made you guys decide that this is a portion

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<v Speaker 3>of the market you wanted to attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think a lot of it comes from mister

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<v Speaker 2>Parsons and is kind of experience in the game. He

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<v Speaker 2>sees people struggle, and you know, it's funny when he

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<v Speaker 2>comes in, whether it's some new blade or a new driver,

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<v Speaker 2>he's we're we're working on something in engineering, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's trying to get prototypes out to his buddies the

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<v Speaker 2>next day and telling tour players you have to try this,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're like, slow down, we need to do some

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<v Speaker 2>testing first. So he's he wants to get help people

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<v Speaker 2>and enjoy golf, and I think it's something that he

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<v Speaker 2>cares quite a bit about. And then just our customer base.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we have the advantage of interfacing with our

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<v Speaker 2>customers quite a bit because of our retail locations. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>our fitters talk one on one with them and we

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<v Speaker 2>get to hear that feedback of what they're looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of the times our customers are saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this is great, but do you have anything for my

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<v Speaker 2>you know, high school age kid or my you know,

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<v Speaker 2>retired parent who is trying to pick up golf or

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<v Speaker 2>my wife or my husband or whatever it is. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think, you know, all of that feedback

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<v Speaker 2>is so valuable, and that connection and relationship with our

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<v Speaker 2>customer allows us to kind of hear and understand and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, do a more entry level set, but do

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<v Speaker 2>it in our way that that is custom fit and

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<v Speaker 2>that is filled with technology. And you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Irons and the Wildcats that are a great example

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<v Speaker 2>for entry level players, which I think is really cool

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<v Speaker 3>A minute ago you mentioned that it's filled with technology.

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<v Speaker 3>How is it that you're able to deliver a set

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think part of it is. So it's a

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<v Speaker 2>all the time just to ask questions about when do

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<v Speaker 2>is great if you are very serious golfer looking to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we have certain technologies that at an advanced

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<v Speaker 2>fine tuning adjustment like our weighting system and our flagship

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<v Speaker 2>products is great. It adds a lot of value to

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<v Speaker 2>to add into clubs, and you know, isn't really going

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<v Speaker 2>to be as important to that player as getting the

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<v Speaker 2>R and D costs. The development is already done in

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<v Speaker 2>previous generations, and it's something we can then apply in

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a fascinating idea using a nine piece

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things they are the first things you

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<v Speaker 3>how far you hit each club. But if you're new

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<v Speaker 3>to it and you're not really sure, you don't need

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<v Speaker 2>We all know the person that pulls their seven iron

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<v Speaker 2>from everywhere and they hit the only right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, we do. We play with them regularly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then there's the people who are like, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>Oh god, what am I going to do?

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<v Speaker 2>So what.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the nine piece set? Let's break it down piece

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<v Speaker 3>by piece.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's available as a full set or individual clubs

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, let's talk about the nine piece set.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a driver a fairway would which is a

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<v Speaker 3>Let's let's stop a driver first, cause we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>go over each club. What's unique about this driver for

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<v Speaker 2>I would say this driver compared to any anything else

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<v Speaker 2>available in our line, it is significantly more loft. So

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<v Speaker 2>it is sixteen degrees aloft, whoa players hit it high.

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<v Speaker 2>And it also has a large face. So the design

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<v Speaker 2>is you know, we talk a lot about forgiveness in golf,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you're early on in golf, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter how high the MOI is if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>catch it on the face. So you know, we try

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<v Speaker 2>to maximize the face size to the best of our ability.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is a really large faced driver.

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting because I know that people struggle more with

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<v Speaker 3>the ball that may just trickle off and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like bowling ball just roll down the fairway. But if

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<v Speaker 3>they get it in the air, it really doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 3>how far they hit it. If they get it in

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<v Speaker 3>the air and their new golf they're very excited. So

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<v Speaker 3>after sixteen degrees of loft, we'll get the ball in

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<v Speaker 3>the air. Absolutely interesting. Interesting, all right, And when you

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<v Speaker 3>said it's got a very large face, it does meet

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<v Speaker 3>the specifications.

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<v Speaker 2>It is according to the USGA rules, so it is

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Not the size of a fry pan, no, but it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is within the rules. Relative to other drivers. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the times we you know, manipulate that shape, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's for aerodynamics for you know, adjusting the characteristics for

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<v Speaker 2>launch and spin, doing things to make it, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for aesthetics, to make it look. What a better player

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<v Speaker 2>prefers this is it is a bigger hitting surface, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think most players at this level appreciate.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree with you one.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, now let's move on pastifer and what's next.

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<v Speaker 2>No fairy wood. So again with the nine piece set,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to have multiple fairy woods. Our experience

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<v Speaker 2>has been you know, we have customers, even people who've

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<v Speaker 2>played golf for a long time that are you say,

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<v Speaker 2>a fifteen handicap, come in fit or ask them when

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<v Speaker 2>do you hit your fariywood? Do you tend to hit

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<v Speaker 2>it off the deck? Do you tend to hit it

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<v Speaker 2>off the tee? And they say, I don't. It's scary club,

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<v Speaker 2>So you just don't hit it. Just they just don't

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<v Speaker 2>hit it. They sip in the bag because you're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to have a fairy wood and usually three three with

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<v Speaker 2>are hard to hit, so we went straight to a

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<v Speaker 2>five wood again. Part of that is the more loft

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<v Speaker 2>aspect of it. It's easier to hit in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>A little shorter just overall a little more comfortable to hit.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's again kind of that bigger profile, bigger design.

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<v Speaker 2>Weight is far back and low. The whole goal is

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<v Speaker 2>make it easy to make contact and to hit it high.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, when you say it's shorter, the overall length of

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<v Speaker 5>the club on our on all the woods are actually

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit shorter than our standard.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, it's back talking about the shaft for talking about

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<v Speaker 2>That's and that's where when it comes to woods especially,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, drivers have gotten longer over time, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>so that people can hit them farther, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>shaft technologies come a long way. Those things allow us

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<v Speaker 2>to do that. Uh. But also you know, when it

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<v Speaker 2>hit it that far, they're not going to pick up

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of distance by having an extra inch

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<v Speaker 2>on the long length of their driver half into the

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<v Speaker 2>length of their driver. They'll pick up a decent amount

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<v Speaker 2>of consistency by going shorter. So we want to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of push people in the proper direction or guide them

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<v Speaker 2>to to what's best for them in terms of maybe

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<v Speaker 2>not max distance when you hit it perfectly, but your

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<v Speaker 2>average distance and enjoyment to the game.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've talked to many club fitters and club builders

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<v Speaker 3>and they talk about, you know, we're going to put

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<v Speaker 3>you in a shaft that's about an inch shorter than

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<v Speaker 3>what is the standard for a driver, let's say, because

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to have more control. You know, Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 3>longer driver the standard size is going to get you

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<v Speaker 3>more distance but less control. So your dispersion with a

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<v Speaker 3>shorter shaft is going to be less and that's what

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<v Speaker 3>you want, absolutely, and that's what you're doing here, a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit shorter on the shaft.

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<v Speaker 4>But again, what's the loft on the five wood?

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<v Speaker 2>The five wood is at oh testing me on my

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<v Speaker 2>specs here?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh oh, through them a curveball you did?

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<v Speaker 2>The driver.

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<v Speaker 4>Is sixteen degrees?

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<v Speaker 2>Is sixteen and then the fairway would so compared to

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<v Speaker 2>a standard five wood, we have at eighteen. This I

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<v Speaker 2>believe is a little bit more. It is at a.

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<v Speaker 4>Two. Should we be playing the Jeopardy theme.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be out of time already. Huh So it's at nineteen, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen degrees. Sorry to do that to you, no, that's

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<v Speaker 2>all right. Job and the kind of things that I

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<v Speaker 2>try to keep track of and and sometimes it's, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>too many numbers running through my head all at once.

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<v Speaker 2>But so nineteen degrees aloft designed to again be higher.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a uh like crazy high loft for a

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<v Speaker 2>fairy wood, but uh it is kind of for the

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<v Speaker 2>being the only fairway in the bag. We want to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure, you know, if a beginner shows up with

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<v Speaker 2>a three wood that's you know, fifteen degrees, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be so hard to hit, it so hard to

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<v Speaker 2>hit in the air, and they'll just never be comfortable

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<v Speaker 3>Are you familiar with the name Jesse Ortiz from the

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<v Speaker 3>club fitter from it was originally or Lamar had started

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<v Speaker 3>or Lamar. So he's a great club fitter, worked for

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<v Speaker 3>many different companies. I had a fitting with him and

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<v Speaker 3>I told him I wanted a three wood, and he goes.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, what we're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're going to give you a four wood and

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<v Speaker 3>you can tell people it's a three wood because so

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<v Speaker 3>many people struggle to get a three wood off the

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<v Speaker 3>deck YEP and a four wood's going to help. So

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<v Speaker 3>a five wood's going to definitely make it.

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<v Speaker 4>A bit easier.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And some people, you know, tour players carry five

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<v Speaker 2>woods and three woods because they're looking to hit specific

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<v Speaker 2>distance gaps, and you know, they find fairy wood's easier

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<v Speaker 2>to hit high in the air than some hybrids that

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<v Speaker 2>are overofted. And you know, it's it's a common club

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<v Speaker 2>to be used. And again, just like we said earlier

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<v Speaker 2>with the nine piece set, players who are new to

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<v Speaker 2>the game generally don't have a big enough discrepancy and

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<v Speaker 2>distance from one to another fill that gap so or

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<v Speaker 2>to need that extra club to fill a gap. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think five wood sets them up as something that

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<v Speaker 2>they can use as a t club and be comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>hitting off the deck as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, out of that nine piece set, we've gone through

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<v Speaker 3>driver in a fair way, would I'm guessing our next

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<v Speaker 3>stop is a hybrid?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>So you guess.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's one hybrid in the set. It's a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eight degree six hybrid.

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<v Speaker 4>So it replaces a six iron, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So, and this is something that going back to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the questions beginners ask and how complicated golf clubs can

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<v Speaker 2>be when you've been playing them forever. It seems straightforward,

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<v Speaker 2>but explaining to a beginner the idea that you're you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>as the number on your irons go down, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>longer club. It's going to go farther. Okay, we got that.

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<v Speaker 2>When you start adding in you know, faaraway woods and

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<v Speaker 2>hybrids that have different sets of numbers, and the farawoods

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<v Speaker 2>go higher than the irons and the hybrids are in between,

426
00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:21.079
<v Speaker 2>it can be complicated. So that's one of those things

427
00:23:21.079 --> 00:23:22.480
<v Speaker 2>we wanted to do to keep it simple.

428
00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:25.559
<v Speaker 3>So we've been through the driver and the faraway wood.

429
00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:28.000
<v Speaker 3>My next guess is we're going to a hybrid in

430
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<v Speaker 3>the set.

431
00:23:28.920 --> 00:23:31.759
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's correct. So the next club in the set

432
00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:33.880
<v Speaker 2>is going to be a six hybrid at twenty eight

433
00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:40.200
<v Speaker 2>degrees aloft. So the idea of going directly to a

434
00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:43.960
<v Speaker 2>six hybrid we really wanted to. It goes back to

435
00:23:44.039 --> 00:23:48.039
<v Speaker 2>the idea of set compositions kind of complicated. If you're

436
00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:51.079
<v Speaker 2>new to the nomenclature and all of the verbiage of

437
00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:55.440
<v Speaker 2>the Gulf world, you know that, Okay, as your irons

438
00:23:55.480 --> 00:23:58.799
<v Speaker 2>go down in number, they go farther, they get longer,

439
00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:01.400
<v Speaker 2>all right, And then hybrids fit between there, and then

440
00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:04.920
<v Speaker 2>there's fairy woods, and you know, having a three wood,

441
00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:07.319
<v Speaker 2>a three hybrid and a three iron, or I guess

442
00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:08.960
<v Speaker 2>you could say a five wood of five hybrid and

443
00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:12.119
<v Speaker 2>a five iron. People get confused. So we wanted to

444
00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:16.400
<v Speaker 2>go directly from your five wood and then use your

445
00:24:16.440 --> 00:24:18.640
<v Speaker 2>six hybrid and it goes to a seven iron. So

446
00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:23.079
<v Speaker 2>keep it as simple as possible, you know, straightforward. People

447
00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:26.000
<v Speaker 2>understand kind of sticks with that idea of as the

448
00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:28.640
<v Speaker 2>number goes down, that's going to be a longer club

449
00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:34.359
<v Speaker 2>that goes farther, so twenty eight degrees of loft. It's

450
00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:37.519
<v Speaker 2>a sort of a six iron replacement, a little longer

451
00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:39.640
<v Speaker 2>than a six iron to help promote get up in

452
00:24:39.680 --> 00:24:43.880
<v Speaker 2>the air, high lofted club and then just an overall

453
00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:45.960
<v Speaker 2>bigger head than an iron. So it's going to produce

454
00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:49.920
<v Speaker 2>more forgiveness, more speed across the face, just sort of

455
00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:51.359
<v Speaker 2>more friendly than a long iron.

456
00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:56.279
<v Speaker 3>Is yeah, absolutely, you know. It's what's sounding really interesting

457
00:24:56.319 --> 00:25:00.519
<v Speaker 3>about this is my wife really doesn't play golf. She

458
00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:04.119
<v Speaker 3>has a set that we bought years ago that a

459
00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:08.640
<v Speaker 3>full set is an inexpensive set, and she just it's

460
00:25:08.680 --> 00:25:11.279
<v Speaker 3>too frustrating for her. This is the kind of set

461
00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:13.400
<v Speaker 3>that would make her go, oh, I can do this.

462
00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:15.279
<v Speaker 3>I'll play nine holes with you.

463
00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:17.920
<v Speaker 2>That was absolutely our goal. So I hope that is

464
00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:18.359
<v Speaker 2>the case.

465
00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:23.519
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, great, great, No, she doesn't have a birthday coming,

466
00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:30.640
<v Speaker 3>all right, So now I guess that hybrid cuts through

467
00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:33.799
<v Speaker 3>the rough like butter too, right, Yeah, that's the point

468
00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:36.279
<v Speaker 3>of That's why they called it a rescue club initially,

469
00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:38.119
<v Speaker 3>but that was a patent in name.

470
00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:40.480
<v Speaker 2>But it's a hybrid, yeah, a little bit bigger of

471
00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:43.240
<v Speaker 2>a club, easier to get kind of down on the ball.

472
00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:50.079
<v Speaker 2>I think so much of golf equipment is when it

473
00:25:50.119 --> 00:25:53.720
<v Speaker 2>comes to designing product is sort of shaping and know

474
00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:56.680
<v Speaker 2>how on our end to help make sure that stuff,

475
00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:59.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, turf interaction the ball, or how the club

476
00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:04.920
<v Speaker 2>goes through the rough. Those are sort of not the

477
00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:09.960
<v Speaker 2>front and center technologies these days because you know, it's

478
00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:12.160
<v Speaker 2>it's something that's been around and it's not maybe the

479
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:15.119
<v Speaker 2>sexiest thing to talk about, but it's so important to

480
00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:19.720
<v Speaker 2>making sure clubs, souls and designs are created in a

481
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:21.759
<v Speaker 2>way that make it easy for a player to get

482
00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:23.799
<v Speaker 2>through that it doesn't dig into the ground that it,

483
00:26:24.119 --> 00:26:26.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, gets through the rough. Okay, So I think

484
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:30.839
<v Speaker 2>that's one of the key features of you know, we

485
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:36.400
<v Speaker 2>make product for players on tour at you know, high

486
00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:41.079
<v Speaker 2>level amateurs, for everyday golfers, for beginners. You know, we're

487
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:44.119
<v Speaker 2>we're putting that same level of detail into you know,

488
00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:47.240
<v Speaker 2>all of the shaping. It's not just you know, hey,

489
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:50.680
<v Speaker 2>let's get this design quick out the door, you know,

490
00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:54.079
<v Speaker 2>made by someone who's maybe never designed a set of

491
00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:56.680
<v Speaker 2>clubs before, and just scale them down based on a picture.

492
00:26:57.319 --> 00:27:00.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's really more than you know, the

493
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:02.799
<v Speaker 2>box sets that are out there. It's it's designed to

494
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:03.680
<v Speaker 2>perform in that way.

495
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:04.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

496
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if we've learned anything over the years and watching

497
00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:17.119
<v Speaker 3>golf on television especially, that really dictates sales what we

498
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:19.559
<v Speaker 3>see on TV. And I do see a lot of

499
00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:24.440
<v Speaker 3>players on the tour that are wearing PXG clothing and

500
00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:29.200
<v Speaker 3>even carrying PXG bags. But you do are they also

501
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:33.240
<v Speaker 3>playing are they just as PXG just marketing you know,

502
00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:35.440
<v Speaker 3>the logo for these guys to wear it on tour?

503
00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:36.720
<v Speaker 4>Are they playing these clubs?

504
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:40.200
<v Speaker 2>They're they're playing our clubs. So you know, we have

505
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.319
<v Speaker 2>nine players on the PGA Tour right now that play,

506
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:48.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, wear our hat carra Bag and Carrie. I

507
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:50.279
<v Speaker 2>believe all of them are at least eight clubs, so

508
00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:54.200
<v Speaker 2>generally irons and wedges, and then a mix of some potters,

509
00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:59.359
<v Speaker 2>some drivers, some fairy woods. Uh, you know, some of

510
00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:03.200
<v Speaker 2>them play all fourteen clubs, some of them don't. There's

511
00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:05.519
<v Speaker 2>there's a mix in there. But but we've you know,

512
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:07.319
<v Speaker 2>it's a resource for us. We get a lot of

513
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:10.079
<v Speaker 2>great feedback from them in terms of our ability to

514
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:14.960
<v Speaker 2>work with them design and improve, So I think that's

515
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:19.880
<v Speaker 2>really helpful. It is important to mention the players. You know,

516
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:23.720
<v Speaker 2>the equipment that they play is not it's not different

517
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:26.599
<v Speaker 2>than what's available for consumers necessarily, but it's not necessarily

518
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:29.759
<v Speaker 2>what's best for your average player. You know, Jake Knapp

519
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:32.000
<v Speaker 2>is our tour staff and he can swing a driver

520
00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:35.240
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and thirty miles an hour, and what he

521
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:37.839
<v Speaker 2>needs in his clubs is very, very different than what

522
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.519
<v Speaker 2>I need, than what you know, my wife needs and

523
00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:43.000
<v Speaker 2>what our parents need. It's just, you know, it's not

524
00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:45.880
<v Speaker 2>the same thing. Most players on tour are using blades

525
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:48.759
<v Speaker 2>because they like the way they go through the rough,

526
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:51.799
<v Speaker 2>they like the look of it from top down, and

527
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:54.680
<v Speaker 2>they like the player because they can hit them because

528
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:59.839
<v Speaker 2>they can hit them. They hit you know, it's not time. Yeah,

529
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:01.960
<v Speaker 2>So I mean those are the kind of things where

530
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:04.680
<v Speaker 2>those guys are so good they can play all sorts

531
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:07.839
<v Speaker 2>of different things. You know, there's a lot of players

532
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:09.720
<v Speaker 2>playing a lot of different clubs and the PGA Tour.

533
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:15.119
<v Speaker 3>Do you know that if you guys sign a player

534
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:18.880
<v Speaker 3>for the PGA Tour, if there's a verbiage in the

535
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:21.640
<v Speaker 3>contract that says you have to play at least X

536
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:23.079
<v Speaker 3>amount of PHG clubs.

537
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:27.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, generally, generally there's It's not I Do'm not intimately

538
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:30.559
<v Speaker 2>familiar with you know, how our contracts are written. Sure,

539
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:34.880
<v Speaker 2>not my area, but generally yeah, I think you know,

540
00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:39.319
<v Speaker 2>anyone wearing our hat and our carrying our bag is

541
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:41.839
<v Speaker 2>is asked to play at least a min own number

542
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:44.759
<v Speaker 2>as part of the contract. But most of our players

543
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:48.519
<v Speaker 2>are playing more than that. So it's it's something where

544
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's a it's you know, a partnership in

545
00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:55.119
<v Speaker 2>a way where part of it is when we work

546
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:57.119
<v Speaker 2>with them. You know, we have our guys that are

547
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:01.000
<v Speaker 2>on our staff or our reps for that go out

548
00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:02.640
<v Speaker 2>there on tour and work with our players and our

549
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:05.160
<v Speaker 2>our fitters for the tour players effectively and they build

550
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:07.279
<v Speaker 2>great relationship with the players. You know, they do an

551
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:10.240
<v Speaker 2>amazing job. They know their games sometimes better than the

552
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:13.279
<v Speaker 2>tour players do. But uh, you know, they're they're there

553
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:16.240
<v Speaker 2>to help them through. Hey we have this coming that

554
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:17.920
<v Speaker 2>I think would help you, or if we have a

555
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:21.839
<v Speaker 2>new you know, product that's coming to go that that

556
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:23.519
<v Speaker 2>one's not for you to stick with. What you're doing

557
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:25.640
<v Speaker 2>is working good. So I think a lot of it

558
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:30.359
<v Speaker 2>is the relationship as well, but they you know, there

559
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:32.640
<v Speaker 2>it's fun to have our Sometimes our tour players are

560
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:35.720
<v Speaker 2>excited when they see new products, and I'm excited to

561
00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:38.359
<v Speaker 2>go watch them test, and you know, it certainly helps

562
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:42.079
<v Speaker 2>us to design at a higher level and just to learn.

563
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.319
<v Speaker 2>You know, the way they evaluated and decide if equipment

564
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:48.559
<v Speaker 2>is good is different than you know, our robot testing

565
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>or how we evaluate it. They're they're looking at shots

566
00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>I've never thought about. So it's it's kind of cool

567
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:57.160
<v Speaker 2>to to pick their brains and see how they think

568
00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:00.880
<v Speaker 2>when they are evaluating if something's you know, or for them.

569
00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:06.319
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely absolutely so we mentioned hitting blades. I got to

570
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:12.359
<v Speaker 3>believe that this wildcat set the irons, which are assuming

571
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.839
<v Speaker 3>you're seven eight nine on your irons, those are probably

572
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:17.319
<v Speaker 3>cavity back clubs.

573
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:22.039
<v Speaker 2>So yes and no. So it's an interesting thing. Where

574
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:26.799
<v Speaker 2>So because of our product, the way our products designed,

575
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:31.119
<v Speaker 2>it's a hollow body, so we're creating a hollow body

576
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:34.400
<v Speaker 2>and then we weld on a face. So what it

577
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:36.400
<v Speaker 2>is is it's a cast body without a face on it.

578
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:39.240
<v Speaker 2>We weld on the face and it creates this large

579
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:42.759
<v Speaker 2>hollow club and then we fill it with material with

580
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:45.920
<v Speaker 2>We call it our x Core two, something we had

581
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.519
<v Speaker 2>in our flagship irons and previous generations, and it is

582
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:55.000
<v Speaker 2>basically allowing the face to flex, but also a lot

583
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:57.759
<v Speaker 2>lighter so it moves weight to the perimeter and supporting

584
00:31:57.799 --> 00:31:59.720
<v Speaker 2>the face so that it doesn't break. So it's kind

585
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:02.359
<v Speaker 2>of our key technology, and I think what we're best

586
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:06.400
<v Speaker 2>known for is that filled hollow body design. We have

587
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:10.319
<v Speaker 2>what I would call cavity back in the Wildcat irons,

588
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:14.680
<v Speaker 2>but it's actually filled with a an insert that's a

589
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:19.359
<v Speaker 2>lightweight insert there, so it kind of has a more flush,

590
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:24.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of sleek design, and I think it looks really

591
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:28.200
<v Speaker 2>really good, provides really great feel compared to you know,

592
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.559
<v Speaker 2>with cavity backs and bigger clubs. A lot of the times,

593
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:33.000
<v Speaker 2>our concern is we want to make sure it looks good.

594
00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:35.559
<v Speaker 2>We want to make sure it feels good because especially

595
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:41.000
<v Speaker 2>beginner sets, larger oversized clubs, they can you know, have

596
00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:43.559
<v Speaker 2>a bad feel to them, you know, like that's what

597
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:46.680
<v Speaker 2>some players like about blades or smaller clubs is they

598
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:48.920
<v Speaker 2>feel more solid when you hit them good. And you know,

599
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.960
<v Speaker 2>we we take so much pride in kind of PXG

600
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.319
<v Speaker 2>having its own specific feel and it being different than

601
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:57.079
<v Speaker 2>what's out there in the industry that you know, we

602
00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.599
<v Speaker 2>want to make sure even on the Wildcat set, you know,

603
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:04.799
<v Speaker 2>it is considered like reaching our level a minimum of

604
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:08.240
<v Speaker 2>a you know, great feel and sound. Uh so it

605
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:10.079
<v Speaker 2>it isn't. It isn't to cavity back. It's a little

606
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:12.000
<v Speaker 2>bit more different to a construction.

607
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:14.160
<v Speaker 4>Interesting, that's unique.

608
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Hmmm.

609
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:20.039
<v Speaker 3>And I'm playing the three eleven's three eleven Yeah right

610
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:25.119
<v Speaker 3>XB And is that the filled hollow body design as well,

611
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:27.640
<v Speaker 3>or so it's our same design as your main clubs.

612
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so are our flagship Uh you know Gen seven

613
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:36.920
<v Speaker 2>irons are a forged body. We have a face that's

614
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:39.440
<v Speaker 2>weeled on and then it's filled with a polymer as well,

615
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:43.599
<v Speaker 2>and so it's a very at the overall construction is

616
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.680
<v Speaker 2>the same. So that's that's where I'm saying. The Wildcats

617
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:49.319
<v Speaker 2>have a lot more technology in them than any other

618
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.720
<v Speaker 2>beginner set out there that I know of. They're they're

619
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:54.440
<v Speaker 2>really designed to to promote that great sound and feel

620
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:58.119
<v Speaker 2>as well as a lot of forgiveness and just you know,

621
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.200
<v Speaker 2>be a really high performing product for that player.

622
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:10.119
<v Speaker 3>Now this set, there's three clubs left in this nine

623
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:13.760
<v Speaker 3>piece set. We've been through driver, Fairaway, Wood Hybrid, the

624
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:18.519
<v Speaker 3>three iron, seven, eight, nine, and some wedge makers consider

625
00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:21.679
<v Speaker 3>a nine like a wedge that you have two wedges

626
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:22.880
<v Speaker 3>and the putter left.

627
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:28.079
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so we have a so a pitching wedge and

628
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:32.000
<v Speaker 2>a sand wedge, and those are the same constructions as

629
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:36.079
<v Speaker 2>the irons, So you know, I personally consider them part

630
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:42.639
<v Speaker 2>of the iron set. Okay, but where wedges have just

631
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:45.760
<v Speaker 2>just like the hybrid faraway would concept, wedges have gotten complicated,

632
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:49.559
<v Speaker 2>especially two players who are new to the game, you know,

633
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:52.000
<v Speaker 2>having a lob wedge of sand wedge and a gap

634
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:55.519
<v Speaker 2>wedge and a pitching wedge, it's confusing when when do

635
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:58.159
<v Speaker 2>I hit what from where? You know, they probably don't

636
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:00.360
<v Speaker 2>have distance gapping issues around their wedge is.

637
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:03.000
<v Speaker 3>And for beginners, the lob wedge is probably the hardest

638
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:03.519
<v Speaker 3>club to hit.

639
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean beginners are hitting high soft shots and

640
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.679
<v Speaker 2>they're not trying to open faces. They're you know, trying

641
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:13.679
<v Speaker 2>to pitch and chip it onto the green and you know,

642
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:16.440
<v Speaker 2>are are happy with that. So I think that's where

643
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:20.760
<v Speaker 2>I try to get it to stop exactly. So, you know,

644
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:24.159
<v Speaker 2>the the wedges have the same technology as the irons,

645
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:26.559
<v Speaker 2>So for full swings with your wedges, you get that

646
00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:30.079
<v Speaker 2>same level of forgiveness. Uh, the same you know, wide

647
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:34.280
<v Speaker 2>soul for great turf interaction to prevent uh you know,

648
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.199
<v Speaker 2>at the club from digging into the ground. But then

649
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:41.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of simplicity and you pitching wedge, you know, and

650
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:43.039
<v Speaker 2>then you have your sand wedge that you can use

651
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:46.800
<v Speaker 2>for your you know, high soft pitch shots.

652
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. And is

653
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:53.039
<v Speaker 3>there a lot of bounce on that sandwich?

654
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

655
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a there's a bounce. Is one of those

656
00:35:57.119 --> 00:35:59.679
<v Speaker 2>funny things where when you when you get into it

657
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:03.960
<v Speaker 2>with with people who are too in the know about it,

658
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:07.039
<v Speaker 2>we all have our thoughts on how the world sees bounce.

659
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:09.079
<v Speaker 2>So it's a really wide soul.

660
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:11.360
<v Speaker 3>So is that is that a big debate going on

661
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:13.000
<v Speaker 3>when you guys are sitting around a table.

662
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:15.960
<v Speaker 2>The designer is going it's more a frustration of people's

663
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:19.960
<v Speaker 2>understanding of bounce because clubs are clubs are listed with

664
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:24.239
<v Speaker 2>effective bounce generally, so you know, there's bounce angle, which

665
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:26.880
<v Speaker 2>is truly the angle the soul like the leading edge

666
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:29.840
<v Speaker 2>is making with the ground as like the soul is

667
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:32.639
<v Speaker 2>going to you know, the contact point and the soul

668
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:37.880
<v Speaker 2>and so on. Some clubs it's listed as you know,

669
00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:40.679
<v Speaker 2>a really low number, and you can look at a

670
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:42.480
<v Speaker 2>wedge and go, I can tell you there's more bounce

671
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:44.239
<v Speaker 2>on there than that. And then you can look at

672
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.800
<v Speaker 2>one that's listed as a really low number because that

673
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:51.639
<v Speaker 2>angle is low, but because the soul is so wide,

674
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:55.320
<v Speaker 2>it plays effectively like there is more bounce, So we

675
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:58.000
<v Speaker 2>like we talk about it in effective bounce of it's

676
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:01.239
<v Speaker 2>a combination of multiple aspects of fact, how high off

677
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:04.119
<v Speaker 2>the ground the leading edge gets and so on. This set,

678
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.960
<v Speaker 2>it's designed to be very playable, more bounced, which is

679
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:11.159
<v Speaker 2>going to lead to, you know, more forgiveness when it

680
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:13.559
<v Speaker 2>comes to you know, you're not when you're chiping, not

681
00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:16.760
<v Speaker 2>putting the leading edge in the ground helpful in the bunker,

682
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:21.440
<v Speaker 2>and that wide soul kind of protects you that beginners

683
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:25.280
<v Speaker 2>aren't looking for the versatility generally that you know, better

684
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:27.239
<v Speaker 2>players are opening up the face and don't want the

685
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:30.119
<v Speaker 2>leading edge to rise up too much, and they're they're

686
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:32.360
<v Speaker 2>looking to, you know, try to hit all sorts of

687
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:37.440
<v Speaker 2>different shots. Well, most people that would be you know,

688
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:39.880
<v Speaker 2>the set is geared towards are looking to make solid

689
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:43.559
<v Speaker 2>contact consistently when they chip the ball. So it's designed

690
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:47.920
<v Speaker 2>in a kind of a significant amount of bounce, but

691
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:50.280
<v Speaker 2>not too much that the leading edges are raising up

692
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:52.039
<v Speaker 2>too high that you kind of are going to scoll

693
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:56.880
<v Speaker 2>the ball, but with ideal for making consistent contact.

694
00:37:56.880 --> 00:37:59.760
<v Speaker 4>I would say, great, Great, that's the whole idea.

695
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, consistency and making it easy.

696
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:04.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So go back to your chart on your screen.

697
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:08.679
<v Speaker 3>The degrees of loft between the seven and the eight,

698
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:11.480
<v Speaker 3>the eight and the nine. Is it consistent when we

699
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:16.039
<v Speaker 3>get to the pitching in the.

700
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:26.679
<v Speaker 2>Sage, Let's see here, So there's about it spreads out

701
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:30.039
<v Speaker 2>a little more in the sand and lob wedge, so

702
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:34.400
<v Speaker 2>it's five degrees between uh from the seven through nine,

703
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:40.320
<v Speaker 2>and then on the wedges it goes to six degree gaps,

704
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:44.639
<v Speaker 2>so okay, so not not a huge difference. And it's

705
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:47.840
<v Speaker 2>they're designed to be used as full swing clubs as well.

706
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:51.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's not just these are short game specific

707
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:55.360
<v Speaker 2>and so that's for gapping purposes to kind of make

708
00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:57.960
<v Speaker 2>sure you're covered at all distances and you can learn

709
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:01.719
<v Speaker 2>those distances, and then also you know, to make sure

710
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:06.679
<v Speaker 2>that they are relatively high. I would say these lofts

711
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:09.480
<v Speaker 2>are much more traditional and loft for what I'd say

712
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:11.760
<v Speaker 2>compared to you know, a lot of sets these days,

713
00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:17.679
<v Speaker 2>especially you know, distance geared irons are a lot stronger lofted,

714
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:20.960
<v Speaker 2>but these are these lofts are a lot weaker, more

715
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:23.320
<v Speaker 2>traditional to help players hit it high in the air.

716
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:25.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah.

717
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:28.920
<v Speaker 3>And then uh, you guys have recently come out with

718
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:34.239
<v Speaker 3>the Allen putter, named after mister Parson's brother, and that

719
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:41.400
<v Speaker 3>is to put your entry into this zero torque revolution

720
00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:45.159
<v Speaker 3>that's going on started by lab Golf and having a

721
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:48.960
<v Speaker 3>tremendous amount of success, and you guys were one of

722
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:55.119
<v Speaker 3>the first companies to come out publicly and say, yeah,

723
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:59.199
<v Speaker 3>we've got a zero torque putter, the Allan putter, And

724
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:01.960
<v Speaker 3>we can talk more about that, but let's finish off

725
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:05.239
<v Speaker 3>this Wildcat set and the putter that you have in

726
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:05.800
<v Speaker 3>that bag.

727
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So the putter that comes with the Wildcat set,

728
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:13.719
<v Speaker 2>it's called the black Hawk. It is a mallet style putter,

729
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:18.519
<v Speaker 2>has a long alignment line, has a lot of perimeter waiting.

730
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:21.159
<v Speaker 2>So whenever we talk about perimeter waiting and golf, we're

731
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:24.880
<v Speaker 2>talking about adding forgiveness and that means on mishits, the

732
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:26.599
<v Speaker 2>club wants to stay straight or it doesn't want to

733
00:40:26.679 --> 00:40:29.800
<v Speaker 2>rotate as much and it doesn't lose as much speed

734
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:33.039
<v Speaker 2>off the face, so more consistent on mishits, which as

735
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:36.760
<v Speaker 2>a beginner on putting is generally something that's more common

736
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:41.760
<v Speaker 2>than with more seasoned players. So it's a very high

737
00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:46.519
<v Speaker 2>forgiveness model. And then the alignment line is very long

738
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:49.440
<v Speaker 2>from front to back. The idea, everything we've done, all

739
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:52.920
<v Speaker 2>of our research says longer the alignment line, the easier

740
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:55.440
<v Speaker 2>it is to line up. It's really simple. So really

741
00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:58.719
<v Speaker 2>for that that player type who you know a lot

742
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:00.960
<v Speaker 2>of players, there's a lot of blades out there on

743
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:04.960
<v Speaker 2>the PGA tour. Certain players just like to look at

744
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:08.039
<v Speaker 2>different things. Certain lighter players like small putters, like like

745
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:11.159
<v Speaker 2>putters without alignment lines all sorts of things. I guess

746
00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:13.519
<v Speaker 2>the alignment line that fits your eye, that is the

747
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:15.599
<v Speaker 2>longest is the best for you, would be my mind

748
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:19.039
<v Speaker 2>or my comment. But for players who don't necessarily have

749
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:22.559
<v Speaker 2>a preference yet, who haven't used a blade for years,

750
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I think the easiest thing to line up is going

751
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:27.480
<v Speaker 2>to be a nice, big, long line. So there's a

752
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:30.159
<v Speaker 2>lot of perimeter waving. And then the other nice feature

753
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:33.599
<v Speaker 2>on the bottom of these there's a ball pickup pocket,

754
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:35.599
<v Speaker 2>which is kind of nice for a mallet to the pails.

755
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Now they pick it right up, move on. So uh,

756
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:42.119
<v Speaker 2>it's a it's a fun thing that I personally really enjoy.

757
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:44.320
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of players who who don't want a

758
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:47.960
<v Speaker 2>putter that can't pick up a ball, and there's it's

759
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:50.800
<v Speaker 2>it's something that that's certainly nice to have. And it's

760
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:52.679
<v Speaker 2>right in the center of the club where we're trying

761
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:55.920
<v Speaker 2>to remove mass from anyway, so it's a great spot

762
00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:59.880
<v Speaker 2>to you know, take mass out and provide that as well.

763
00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:09.239
<v Speaker 3>All right, Caleb, Uh, just love the concept that you

764
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:12.199
<v Speaker 3>guys got going with the Wildcat set and who it's

765
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:15.159
<v Speaker 3>for and who it's directed to. But I want to

766
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:16.599
<v Speaker 3>I want to make a little bit of a left

767
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:19.119
<v Speaker 3>turn here, because there's another new club that you guys

768
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:23.079
<v Speaker 3>have recently announced that really has my interest.

769
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:26.960
<v Speaker 4>Not that I don't love my p XG Driver, I

770
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:27.960
<v Speaker 4>do like it.

771
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:31.239
<v Speaker 3>I still get my friends going WHOA when I when

772
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:37.199
<v Speaker 3>I hit one nicely off t But you have joined again.

773
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:40.800
<v Speaker 3>We talked about a revolution earlier. More and more people

774
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:44.199
<v Speaker 3>are bringing back a mini driver. I guess that would

775
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:48.320
<v Speaker 3>be a two would in the old days. But you

776
00:42:48.360 --> 00:42:53.039
<v Speaker 3>guys have just introduced one, the secret Weapon mini Driver,

777
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:58.960
<v Speaker 3>And I'm sure that name didn't come out of your office,

778
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:03.880
<v Speaker 3>But tell me about your involvement with that and why

779
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.360
<v Speaker 3>we need to seriously consider a mini driver these days.

780
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, I mean my role here at PXG, I'm

781
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:14.000
<v Speaker 2>the director of our Metal Woods R and D, so

782
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:17.159
<v Speaker 2>I do club design, I do the majority of our

783
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:20.519
<v Speaker 2>driver design, and then my team works through all the

784
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Faarawoods and hybrids as well. So, so we were responsible

785
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:28.159
<v Speaker 2>for the secret Weapon, and you know, it's something that

786
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:31.920
<v Speaker 2>we we jumped on that we weren't really sure. It

787
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:33.920
<v Speaker 2>was more of a research project at the time, based

788
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:36.280
<v Speaker 2>on seeing kind of a couple of tour players that

789
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:40.239
<v Speaker 2>were playing them and interested in them of hey, maybe

790
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:42.920
<v Speaker 2>this is something to look at, and and the idea

791
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:47.440
<v Speaker 2>came as you know, we there have been two woods,

792
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:52.039
<v Speaker 2>we've had two woods before, but true mini driver that's

793
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:54.599
<v Speaker 2>almost I think of it as a fairwywood, like a

794
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:57.880
<v Speaker 2>three wood replacement that is more geared towards hitting off

795
00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:01.440
<v Speaker 2>the teeth. You know, a lot, Like I said, when

796
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:04.280
<v Speaker 2>it comes to Wildcats set, a lot of players come

797
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:07.239
<v Speaker 2>in for fittings and we go, hey, how do you

798
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:08.920
<v Speaker 2>use your fairwaywood? Do you hit your three with more

799
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:10.199
<v Speaker 2>off the tee? Do you hit off the deck? And

800
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:11.960
<v Speaker 2>they go, oh, I never hit it off the deck.

801
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:14.719
<v Speaker 2>So in that case, it's like, hey, here's something that's

802
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:18.960
<v Speaker 2>more designed for being used off the deck. And I

803
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:23.079
<v Speaker 2>think the way we fit customers and reach customers with

804
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:26.519
<v Speaker 2>fitters can kind of talk you through the advantages and

805
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:28.599
<v Speaker 2>disadvantages and how you would use it in your game.

806
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:32.320
<v Speaker 2>It lends itself well to things that aren't as traditionally

807
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:35.840
<v Speaker 2>part of a golf bag. It's a little different. We've

808
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:37.960
<v Speaker 2>seen a ton of them the PGA Tour, and part

809
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:41.360
<v Speaker 2>of that is, you know, again, PGA Tour players are

810
00:44:41.519 --> 00:44:44.559
<v Speaker 2>built differently. They hit it so far that you know,

811
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:47.559
<v Speaker 2>We have Jake Napp who plays our secret weaponon tour,

812
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:53.519
<v Speaker 2>and he he hits his secret weapon three hundred yards plus,

813
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:56.039
<v Speaker 2>so it's like he's like, oh, yeah, I hit it.

814
00:44:56.119 --> 00:44:59.719
<v Speaker 2>He hits it ten times around sometimes and it's off

815
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.079
<v Speaker 2>of tea and it's like he's he hasn't had a

816
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:06.639
<v Speaker 2>fairwywood into a green and I don't know, since I

817
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:09.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know if he turned fifteen, Like it's it's not.

818
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:11.519
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't need a three wood that he can hit

819
00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:13.679
<v Speaker 2>off the deck, so he wants something that is designed

820
00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:16.639
<v Speaker 2>for off the tee that he feels comfortable, and the

821
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:19.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of the bigger head of the mini driver provides

822
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:22.840
<v Speaker 2>more distance off the tee at deeper face and then

823
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:24.440
<v Speaker 2>just more forgiveness on miss its too.

824
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So for the recreational golfer who doesn't hit anything

825
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:35.159
<v Speaker 3>three hundred yards except two shots, why would I want

826
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:37.960
<v Speaker 3>to consider having a mini driver to replace my three wood?

827
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I would say it's for players who who like to

828
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:44.760
<v Speaker 2>use a fairywood or something other than a driver off

829
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:49.000
<v Speaker 2>a tee. It's shorter than a driver, so we again

830
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.239
<v Speaker 2>it's custom fit so you can adjust length, but we

831
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:54.840
<v Speaker 2>have its stock at forty three and three quarters inches.

832
00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:59.920
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of a low lofted fairy wood at thirteen degrees.

833
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:03.519
<v Speaker 2>It's just you know, when you're going, ooh, this is

834
00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:05.000
<v Speaker 2>the type part four, but I still kind of have

835
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:06.800
<v Speaker 2>to hit it a decent ways. I think it's a

836
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:09.360
<v Speaker 2>great option to have something a little shorter in terms

837
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:11.719
<v Speaker 2>of the club length with a little more loft to

838
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:14.280
<v Speaker 2>be able to say I can be confident in hitting

839
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:17.440
<v Speaker 2>this fairway. And it is something you know, we worked

840
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:19.960
<v Speaker 2>with our tour players to make sure it was something

841
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:21.719
<v Speaker 2>in a pinch they can hit off the deck too,

842
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:24.199
<v Speaker 2>So it's not like a club that's it's not like

843
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:27.320
<v Speaker 2>hitting driver off the deck. It's you know, fairwoods in general,

844
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:29.840
<v Speaker 2>three woods can be hard to hit from fairway, and

845
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:33.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, this is I would say significantly easier to

846
00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:36.920
<v Speaker 2>hit off the tee than a three wood, but maybe

847
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:41.360
<v Speaker 2>similar off the fairway. So for players who maybe struggle

848
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:46.199
<v Speaker 2>with the fairway, would maybe who who want to, you know,

849
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:49.519
<v Speaker 2>try something different to improve their their driving game and

850
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:51.559
<v Speaker 2>have something they hit a little farther off the tee

851
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:53.400
<v Speaker 2>than a three wood, but more a little more consistent

852
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:54.599
<v Speaker 2>than a driver. It's a great option.

853
00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:57.880
<v Speaker 4>What's the degree of loft on the mini driver.

854
00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:00.880
<v Speaker 2>So it's thirteen degrees and it's adjust so you can

855
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:02.400
<v Speaker 2>go up or down a degree and a half, So

856
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:04.719
<v Speaker 2>eleven and a half to fourteen and a half.

857
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:08.159
<v Speaker 4>Adjustable. And do you.

858
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:12.960
<v Speaker 3>I've never wanted a mess with my clubs. It's like,

859
00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:16.239
<v Speaker 3>oh adjusted because today I'm hitting the It's like that.

860
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:21.960
<v Speaker 3>That to me is a recipe for disaster. Do you

861
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:25.000
<v Speaker 3>recommend that once you have your fitting and you guys say,

862
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:27.039
<v Speaker 3>you know what, this is adjustable, but we're going to

863
00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:29.920
<v Speaker 3>put you in fourteen degrees, leave it alone. If you're

864
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:32.840
<v Speaker 3>having a bad day, just come back tomorrow. How do

865
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:35.360
<v Speaker 3>you what do you suggest to people who want to

866
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:36.360
<v Speaker 3>make those.

867
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:39.440
<v Speaker 4>Adjustments on their own?

868
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:41.679
<v Speaker 2>It depends on the person. I know. People like me,

869
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:44.599
<v Speaker 2>I could say leave it, but I tinker with mine

870
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:45.280
<v Speaker 2>all the time.

871
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:48.840
<v Speaker 4>So you're a club maker man, yeah.

872
00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:51.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean you get it if you know what's going on.

873
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:53.639
<v Speaker 2>If you have like an understanding of hey, I think

874
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I need more spin or I need less spin, or

875
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:59.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm hitting it too high or too low. Absolutely different areas.

876
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you're going to play at altitude you can use

877
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:04.559
<v Speaker 2>a little more loft. Things like that are absolutely reasons

878
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:07.960
<v Speaker 2>to adjust them. You know, we try to make it

879
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:10.920
<v Speaker 2>very simple, so worst case, you can adjust it right back.

880
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:14.079
<v Speaker 2>But the other benefit is you can always just you know,

881
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:16.760
<v Speaker 2>call your fitter. Talk to your fitter, they'll work through it.

882
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:19.760
<v Speaker 2>So you know, call it PXG, talk to our player

883
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:23.480
<v Speaker 2>support team. They can talk you through. You know what

884
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:25.360
<v Speaker 2>you're dealing with, and you're going if you're going, hey,

885
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:27.639
<v Speaker 2>i'm hitting it too low, here's a couple of options

886
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:29.880
<v Speaker 2>in terms of adjustability. We can try to help. You

887
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:31.679
<v Speaker 2>can go into a store, they can get you on

888
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:34.360
<v Speaker 2>a monitor. We can kind of help get you sorted out,

889
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:37.639
<v Speaker 2>so that adjustability is helpful. If you don't know how

890
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:40.559
<v Speaker 2>to adjust it. We have resources in terms of calling

891
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:44.000
<v Speaker 2>in or you know, some of the content we release

892
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:46.760
<v Speaker 2>on YouTube and things like that will help walk you

893
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:50.400
<v Speaker 2>through it if you want to educate yourself on it.

894
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:54.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think it's fun to toy around with personally,

895
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:59.000
<v Speaker 2>and some people say, hey, I am a golf nerd.

896
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely there are some people out there who you know,

897
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:06.159
<v Speaker 2>the benefit, like the adjustability is still a benefit, but

898
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:08.719
<v Speaker 2>it's a benefit in the fitting environment and once it's set,

899
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:10.920
<v Speaker 2>leave it. And if that's you, that's fine too. But

900
00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:16.239
<v Speaker 2>I think it's still provides a lot of a lot

901
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:18.960
<v Speaker 2>of value for that player because they are able to

902
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:24.079
<v Speaker 2>dial in exactly you know, loft and CG location that

903
00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:25.559
<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't be able to get with a driver that

904
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:26.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't have that adjustability.

905
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:29.199
<v Speaker 4>But fascinating, fascinating.

906
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:31.840
<v Speaker 3>Tell me about the fitting process that goes on for

907
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:36.679
<v Speaker 3>the average consumer and whether whether it's for you know,

908
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:41.239
<v Speaker 3>we're not determining if they want to get the the

909
00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:44.800
<v Speaker 3>Wildcat set or a full set. What is the fitting

910
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.239
<v Speaker 3>process and how is it determined what would be best

911
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:47.800
<v Speaker 3>for that person?

912
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:51.760
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, yeah, fittings can be very different depending

913
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:56.360
<v Speaker 2>on who you at, your ability. You know, it's going

914
00:49:56.440 --> 00:50:00.360
<v Speaker 2>to start with the same kind of static measurement on set,

915
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:02.639
<v Speaker 2>not a firm like not it We're not measuring your

916
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:06.159
<v Speaker 2>actual height, but talking through it, Hey, how tall are you?

917
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:08.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, how long you've been playing? How often do

918
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:10.760
<v Speaker 2>you play? You know, it's a it's a conversation with

919
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:13.440
<v Speaker 2>the fitter as you get warmed up. They're trying to

920
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:17.000
<v Speaker 2>figure out what you're looking for, what you struggle with,

921
00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:21.239
<v Speaker 2>what areas you know you are looking for improvement in

922
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:24.760
<v Speaker 2>what you've been playing. Things like that to kind of

923
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:27.599
<v Speaker 2>get to know you better as a player. Uh, they'll

924
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:29.679
<v Speaker 2>they'll take a look. If you bring in your old set, great,

925
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:33.920
<v Speaker 2>If not, that's fine too, but kind of get you

926
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:36.760
<v Speaker 2>started if you're you know, we do full back fittings

927
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:40.000
<v Speaker 2>that are quite a while, but in terms of you know,

928
00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:42.159
<v Speaker 2>they can. It's a lot of swings, so be ready

929
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:44.679
<v Speaker 2>to for a little bit of a workout and not

930
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:46.559
<v Speaker 2>a lot of us are used to hitting that many balls.

931
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:51.760
<v Speaker 2>But our goal is really too our fitter is going

932
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:55.000
<v Speaker 2>to try to get you into the proper model, proper

933
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:59.519
<v Speaker 2>chef length, li angle weight as few swings as possible,

934
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:03.760
<v Speaker 2>because is I think a lot of people don't have

935
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:06.880
<v Speaker 2>enough swings that we all. You know, it takes a

936
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:09.920
<v Speaker 2>while to warm up. Once you are in that warm zone,

937
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:12.559
<v Speaker 2>you have so many good swings before you start going downhill.

938
00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:14.719
<v Speaker 2>So our goal is always to get the proper club

939
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:18.880
<v Speaker 2>to you as quickly as possible. Process. We do that

940
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:21.920
<v Speaker 2>in a few ways. One way is we have a

941
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:24.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, an internal fitting tool we use, which is

942
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:27.800
<v Speaker 2>how our phone team operates. If you call in and

943
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:31.760
<v Speaker 2>want to get fit, they'll they'll walk through some questions

944
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:34.039
<v Speaker 2>and it'll based on all the fittings we've done. In

945
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:36.519
<v Speaker 2>the past, all that data, we use that to come

946
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:39.440
<v Speaker 2>up with a recommendation, and then we'll use that in

947
00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:41.760
<v Speaker 2>our if you come in this person as well, to

948
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:45.039
<v Speaker 2>get to a starting point, so to go, Hey, here's

949
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:47.320
<v Speaker 2>three shafts in a model club and a length and

950
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:49.599
<v Speaker 2>a lie. It recommends we can adjust from that. That

951
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.719
<v Speaker 2>isn't gospel, but it's a good starting point. It's usually

952
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:54.920
<v Speaker 2>pretty close. So we'll do that and then we can

953
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:57.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of talk through and try a few different things. So,

954
00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:02.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, a lot of people have experienced the hey,

955
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:04.880
<v Speaker 2>let's try a little lighter, let's try a little heavier,

956
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:07.000
<v Speaker 2>let's try a little longer, let's try a little shorter,

957
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:10.400
<v Speaker 2>and they're surprised sometimes to go. You know, I've played

958
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:14.039
<v Speaker 2>stock stock stock my whole life. It's interesting. I actually

959
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:17.159
<v Speaker 2>like a lighter swingweight and a you know, a shorter

960
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:19.519
<v Speaker 2>iron feels more consistent and I don't lose any speed

961
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:23.320
<v Speaker 2>or you know whatever. The configuration is so more than anything.

962
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Fitting so important because you can just try different things

963
00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:34.239
<v Speaker 2>and tinker and get to understand, you know, what all

964
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:36.000
<v Speaker 2>the things that can be changed in your equipment and

965
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:39.239
<v Speaker 2>what they're doing, and just whether it's so like the

966
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:41.920
<v Speaker 2>wildcats out like we said, or up to tour players.

967
00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:45.880
<v Speaker 2>It makes golf easier. It's just being the proper ly

968
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:48.119
<v Speaker 2>angle and the proper length makes it easier and mix

969
00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:51.199
<v Speaker 2>all of contact and those things are just so important.

970
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:55.360
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely well. And that's what we just heard from the

971
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:58.880
<v Speaker 3>director of Metal Woods R and D kale Kalb cral Off.

972
00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:01.239
<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much much for your time, for your

973
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:06.039
<v Speaker 3>explanation and the introduction to this fascinating set. If somebody

974
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:10.840
<v Speaker 3>is looking to get somebody into golf, this is you

975
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:14.079
<v Speaker 3>can you know, direct them towards these clubs.

976
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:18.840
<v Speaker 4>If there's you know, if you're senior and you're.

977
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Looking to you don't need to carry that many clubs

978
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:24.400
<v Speaker 3>because you're not that accurate. You might want to look

979
00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:27.480
<v Speaker 3>into this as well. There's lots of reasons to look

980
00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:30.840
<v Speaker 3>into it. And again I've been enjoying my Okay, I'm

981
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:32.159
<v Speaker 3>not gonna make this.

982
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:35.360
<v Speaker 4>That just made it the infomercial, but.

983
00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Caleb, thanks so much for your time and your information.

984
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:40.239
<v Speaker 4>It's fascinating.

985
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:42.559
<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate it absolutely Thanks for having me