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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity

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<v Speaker 1>Forward slash the Big for Society and now let's get

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<v Speaker 1>on with the show. Three two one Big for Society.

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<v Speaker 1>We got the privilege of talking to John today. John

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<v Speaker 1>is a BFRO investigator from the great state of Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>and I reach out to him after I tracked him

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<v Speaker 1>down from seeing his name and a BFRO report. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's a sneaky thing I do, but sometimes it works. John,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for being on the show tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a problem. Thank you so much for having me Jeremiah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't mind you tracking me down. You're not

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<v Speaker 2>the first person to do it through the BFR Report website.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you're going to share a few really cool things

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<v Speaker 1>that have happened to you over the years, and can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to hear some really cool stuff that have happened

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<v Speaker 1>on the BFRO expeditions, and maybe some other things as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see. But John, I'm going to go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>let you take over from here, take us back to

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning whatever happened first, and we'll chat along the way.

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<v Speaker 2>So, hey, not a problem. So I had an interest

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<v Speaker 2>in Bigfoot from working as a young person. I saw

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<v Speaker 2>the Mysterious Monster movie that came out. My sister took

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<v Speaker 2>me to that, and then I put that on the shelf.

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<v Speaker 2>And then later on in life, in my late twenties,

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<v Speaker 2>I was working at the warehouse with a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>guys and they went down on an expedition in Oregon

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<v Speaker 2>with Peter Burn and they rekindled the interest in Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 2>while they were talking about it. After they came back,

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<v Speaker 2>so checked out the internet. The internet was a new

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<v Speaker 2>thing in the late nineties, and so I found the

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<v Speaker 2>DFROL website and actually offered expeditions, and I thought, man,

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<v Speaker 2>that's really cool. So in two thousand and six, I

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<v Speaker 2>signed up for my first expedition. It was east of

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<v Speaker 2>Mount Rainier, so I signed up for that one. It

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<v Speaker 2>was in August of that year, pretty hot, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was a great location, and so I just I got

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<v Speaker 2>there a day early. The expeditions usually run Thursday through Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got there on a Wednesday, and I met

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<v Speaker 2>some great people, met Moneymaker was up there, and just

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<v Speaker 2>fell in love with all the stuff that's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And so one of the things that happened on that expedition,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I mentioned to your earlier, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things after the newbies on these expeditions. So I was

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<v Speaker 2>we were out night walking one night and it was late,

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<v Speaker 2>it was about one or two in the morning or so,

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<v Speaker 2>and we had it was hot, so we're sweaty, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're tired, and we're dusty a little bit. Myself and

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<v Speaker 2>a couple other people came back to camp and I

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<v Speaker 2>was camped in this little tent. It was back in

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<v Speaker 2>the woods next to a toe of a mountain. We

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<v Speaker 2>were right next to a mountain and I was butt tired,

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<v Speaker 2>so I climbed into my little tent. I got into

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<v Speaker 2>my sleeping bag. You're in your underwear there. It's hot.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just laying there, and I'm just really tired, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm laying there and I'm trying not to sweat, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna do it anyway. And I'm laying I've been

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<v Speaker 2>laying there for about twenty minutes, and it's really quiet

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<v Speaker 2>out there. It's very peaceful, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>I hear footsteps, bipedal footsteps coming up to my tent.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's a little plants and bushes on the

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<v Speaker 2>ground and everything. He was stomp. It's not stomp, it's

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I can tell it's bipal. You tell it's walking slow.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't look out because I don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>screen on the tent that I can see out of

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<v Speaker 2>or anything. And I'm laying there and I'm really tired,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hear this thing up towards my tent and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's one of the campus to say hello,

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<v Speaker 2>who is it? And the footsteps stop, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just laying there. I'm tired, and I'm just like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what is this person doing? Then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>after about not all of a sudden, but after thirty seconds,

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<v Speaker 2>it starts walking even closer and it's not heavy, the

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<v Speaker 2>ground is not shaking or anything. I'm just hearing this

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<v Speaker 2>and it gets up to about even with my head

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<v Speaker 2>on the side of the tent. I go, okay, who's

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<v Speaker 2>out there? And it stops again. I don't hear any breathing,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't hear it doing anything. After another thirty seconds,

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<v Speaker 2>it starts walking up past my tent, you know, And

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<v Speaker 2>I said, hey, who is it? And it stops about

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<v Speaker 2>the end of my tent. I'm like, I should get up.

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<v Speaker 2>I should unsit this thing and crawl out there and

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<v Speaker 2>shine a flashlight on this thing and see who it is,

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<v Speaker 2>because they're bugging the heck out of me and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what it is, that's right, And then I go,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting here in my underwear, so that's probably not cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to scare anybody like that, so I

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<v Speaker 2>let it go. Then I hear this thing walk off,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just walks off down towards my friend Scott

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor's camp. He's going to be a Farro investigator. Great guy.

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<v Speaker 2>We happen to be on the very first expedition together,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that was it. It walks down towards Scott

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<v Speaker 2>camp and Scott's camp, and the next day I asked him,

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<v Speaker 2>I has, hey, does something walk around your tent? And

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't say anything. He didn't hear anything right like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But we did wake up and we did find some

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<v Speaker 2>footprints coming out of the woods, a swamp area, but

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<v Speaker 2>the tob of mountain, there's a creek down there, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's that swampy area, but it's coming out of that area,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's walking down a dirt road, an offshoot of

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<v Speaker 2>the main road, and we find these nine inch footprints

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<v Speaker 2>and they come out of the forest and what do

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they walk right up to my tent and

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<v Speaker 2>they walk by my tent and they go past my tent.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously I didn't see what happened or who it was,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're thinking, you know, a little sasquatch came out

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<v Speaker 2>of the woods and walked up to my tent. And

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<v Speaker 2>I keep kicking myself for not getting out there trying

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<v Speaker 2>to flashlight on it. But I was told, oh, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to do that, we don't want to scare them.

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<v Speaker 2>Shame on me. But that's the first expedition I went on.

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<v Speaker 2>And then at the end of the expedition, so it

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<v Speaker 2>was a Saturday night, so Scott and I decided to

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<v Speaker 2>backpack in towards the mountain. It's not too far, but

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<v Speaker 2>you got a bushwalk in there. So we packed up

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<v Speaker 2>in the last Saturday night. We got in there and

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<v Speaker 2>we slept out on the ground and we were hoping

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<v Speaker 2>something would happen, but nothing happened during the night. And

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<v Speaker 2>as we were all packed up in the morning on

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday morning, we're about to walk out, we hear this knock,

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<v Speaker 2>big power knock, about seventy five yards away towards towards

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<v Speaker 2>the mountain. And of course, now, being an experienced investigator,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to walk towards that. You're going to go

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<v Speaker 2>see what it is. But for some reason, Scott and

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at each other and went, oh, that was cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Being newbies were oh, and we just hiked back out.

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<v Speaker 2>We just didn't do a thing with it. And so

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<v Speaker 2>keep kicking myself for not going through there and seeing

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<v Speaker 2>what was making that and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the very first expedition I went on. So

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<v Speaker 2>after that experience, I was hooked. So that was the

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<v Speaker 2>first experience. I didn't see a sasquatch. I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>can't confirm it was a sasquatch, but being positional evidence

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<v Speaker 2>like that, you got the footprints coming out of the

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<v Speaker 2>woods and all the sounds by my tent and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty sure we had a juvenile walking around there.

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<v Speaker 1>Logically that makes sense because what else is going to

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<v Speaker 1>walk out of the woods like that with their feet?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, but that was cool. Yeah, that's the first

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<v Speaker 2>one there. That's the cool one, well one of the

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<v Speaker 2>cool ones. But do have another one, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>this is a good one. So two years later, two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and eight, I was on another BFRO expedition in

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<v Speaker 2>the same area, not the same campsite, but in the

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<v Speaker 2>same area, and this is a good one. So we

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<v Speaker 2>had a bunch of people on this expedition too. I

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<v Speaker 2>have we do disperse camping, so we don't use regular

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<v Speaker 2>campgrounds or anything like that. And I got my car

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<v Speaker 2>up this old jinky logging road up into the area

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<v Speaker 2>we're camping at and I got my car up there,

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<v Speaker 2>which is amazing because I barely get my truck up

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<v Speaker 2>there now. But I'm camped up and the campsite is

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<v Speaker 2>spread out probably about two three acres in total, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's in the woods, it's in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 2>woods with old roads going around in the trees and

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<v Speaker 2>everything like that. And you come into the camp off

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<v Speaker 2>the main road. You get up in there and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a flat area, and then towards the north there's a

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<v Speaker 2>berm that kind of runs along one side of the campground,

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<v Speaker 2>and on the other side of the berm there's a

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a swampy area and stuff like that. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's trees growing all over everything, all over the flat

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<v Speaker 2>place and the berm and everything. You just find a

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<v Speaker 2>spot in between everything to camping, which is what I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a tent set up, a little table and

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<v Speaker 2>chair and stuff like that. So I've got a chair

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<v Speaker 2>to sit on and table to cook on and all

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of business. And so two of the guests,

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<v Speaker 2>or before the guests, actually there was two gentlemen and

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<v Speaker 2>their twelve year old sons. So there was a father

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<v Speaker 2>and son and their friends and so they had the

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<v Speaker 2>two kids and they had their bikes with them. So

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<v Speaker 2>these twelve year olds are they get there and they

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<v Speaker 2>set up camp and there I'm on top of the berm,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're about fifty yards away for me down the

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<v Speaker 2>berm lower. So I'm on top of the berm. They're

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<v Speaker 2>down lower on the berm, about fifty yards away. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't see them because there's a bunch of trees in

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<v Speaker 2>the way. It's not too bad, but you can't really see.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the camping situation. And all through these days

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<v Speaker 2>the kids are out riding their bikes and they're just

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<v Speaker 2>chearing it up and it's fun. They're out on the

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<v Speaker 2>roads and everything. And now is a bfur O investigator

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<v Speaker 2>and a little more experience. The kids are great for

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<v Speaker 2>attracting sasquatches. They really just cut loose. They don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>They're laughing, they're screaming, they're all that stuff, and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>we think the sasquatches are interested in that. They think

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty cool. So these kids are out riding their

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<v Speaker 2>bikes and everything, and it's really neat, and so they're out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Friday night and I'm sitting in camp. We got

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<v Speaker 2>a fire going. I'd been out in the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of nights messing around. I was tired. So I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 2>at camp around the fire and my friend Dale Southwick

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<v Speaker 2>is sitting next to me, and Dale has got a

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<v Speaker 2>When you have first generation Russian night vision binocular. So

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<v Speaker 2>The moon isn't up yet. And the kids come back

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<v Speaker 2>that's their camp. And they were down at the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>of the berm, which burm's about twenty feet high. It's

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<v Speaker 2>And so these guys are camped over there, and about oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, about eleven thirty twelve, I decided to

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<v Speaker 2>to get to mind and it's about fifty or sixty

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<v Speaker 2>to drink, and I've got a walkie talking young. I've

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<v Speaker 2>As we were told, an you'll try and be as

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<v Speaker 2>And we're sitting around the fire and we hear the

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<v Speaker 2>group coming back and they're radio wing and hey, we're

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<v Speaker 2>coming back, and we've got a couple of barred owls

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<v Speaker 2>following us. That's weird. Bard owls or any owl just

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't follow people. And we'd we ask them, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you mean, And they said, there's one on one side

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<v Speaker 2>of the road and it hoots and the one on

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<v Speaker 2>been doing that for the last half mile. Now, these

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<v Speaker 2>two howls have been following us for the last half mile.

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<v Speaker 2>That immediately piques our interest because owls don't follow people.

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<v Speaker 2>They start coming up there road into camp and they

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<v Speaker 2>get close to camp and you can hear these bard owls.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, how bart owl is going to go? No,

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<v Speaker 2>who cooks for you? What was funny is one bart

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<v Speaker 2>owl would call and we'ld go, and then you hear

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<v Speaker 2>what we now know is samurai chatter at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of it. So it's a willy'll will go up and

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<v Speaker 2>then the one on the other side of the road

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<v Speaker 2>would answer, go. So we're thinking, those are the weirdest

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<v Speaker 2>barred owls we've ever heard. That's not a normal barred

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<v Speaker 2>owl call, and so that's kind of interesting. And they

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<v Speaker 2>stopped calling back and forth, oh, probably about thirty yards

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<v Speaker 2>before the group arrived back in camp. So that's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really weird. But you know, I could get back

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<v Speaker 2>to camp, nothing's going on, So I went I decide

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<v Speaker 2>to go back to camp. And so I'm sitting there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm back at camp now, and I'm just in the

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<v Speaker 2>chair and I'm just listening to the walkie talks. It's warm,

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<v Speaker 2>and so all of a sudden, we hear over the

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<v Speaker 2>walkie talking one of the fathers going, hey, we help

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<v Speaker 2>over here, and the leader, I think it was Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>Jones at the time, he just calls them, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you need and he goes, hey, we got some little creatures,

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<v Speaker 2>a little sasquatches run around our cars and they're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at us from behind the cars, and we're going, oh, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's what we want. So Kevin's really cool and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes like, you, where are you, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you need help? He goes, We're sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of our picnic table with a lantern. We're scared,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're watching these things run around our cars. They're

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<v Speaker 2>peeking out looking at us, and we'll describe to us.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm are about three feet tall. They just peek out

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<v Speaker 2>and they look at us. And so I'm listening to

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<v Speaker 2>this and I'm going, this is really cool. And they're

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<v Speaker 2>giving us a play by play over the walkie talkie

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<v Speaker 2>down there, and so I'm sitting there listening to this man.

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<v Speaker 2>This is awesome. And this went on for about a

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<v Speaker 2>half hour or so and Kevin just say, just sit tight.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why you're here, this is why you come

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<v Speaker 2>on these expeditions to experience this. And they're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>remain calm, but they've got two twelve year old boys

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<v Speaker 2>that are getting freaked out. And they're freaked out. You

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<v Speaker 2>can hear it in the voice, but they say, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's one that's looking over the tarp for

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<v Speaker 2>the latri at Us. It's up. They got tarp's about

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<v Speaker 2>seven feet tall and this thing's looking over at them.

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<v Speaker 2>So this thing's got to be taller than that. And

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<v Speaker 2>so they're being watched by the little ones and the

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<v Speaker 2>bigger ones, which we assume are their parents or something,

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<v Speaker 2>are watching these little ones. Take a look at these boys.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the boys they've seen riding their bikes down

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<v Speaker 2>the dirt roads for three days so far, and they're interested.

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<v Speaker 2>So evidently the Bigfoot parents brought these little guys in

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of watch these boys, and so that's what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on. So they can't. They brought their little ones

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<v Speaker 2>around their camp and they're letting them run around and

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<v Speaker 2>take a look at these boys. And so it went

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<v Speaker 2>off for about a half hour, and then finally somebody said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we think they're gone. That's cool, but today say, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 2>they're back again. So there's a lull in that, but

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<v Speaker 2>then they started again. And I'm sitting there and I've

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<v Speaker 2>got up out of my chair by this time. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking over towards their camp. I can't see anything. If

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<v Speaker 2>you want to stand and you look at that direction,

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<v Speaker 2>see if something happens. But I'm standing there and I

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<v Speaker 2>look down the burn to my catty cord to my left,

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<v Speaker 2>and I see about thirty yards away or so I see.

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<v Speaker 2>I know there's trees there, but you can't see them

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<v Speaker 2>because it's dark. And I see a set of eyes

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<v Speaker 2>that's orangish yellow, lean out as if someone's leaning out

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<v Speaker 2>from behind a tree and explant a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're orangish yellow, and they're about five or six feet

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<v Speaker 2>off the ground. And then right below them, I see

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<v Speaker 2>a set of green eyes lean out and look at me,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're about two and a half three feet off

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<v Speaker 2>the ground, and they lean out and they look for

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<v Speaker 2>about two seconds, and then they go back and I

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<v Speaker 2>can't see them anymore. I don't see the eyes anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought, man, that's weird. Something's over there. I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's a squatch. I've been told they have different

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<v Speaker 2>color eyes and stuff like that. I said, that's really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And then about a minute later, about ten yards closer,

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing happens. It's a set of eyes. It's

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<v Speaker 2>orangish yellow, leans out about six feet off the ground,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the little green set leans out and looks

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<v Speaker 2>at me about three feet off the ground. And then

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<v Speaker 2>they look at me for about two seconds, and they

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<v Speaker 2>go back and I lose sight of them. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I wait another but so I'm intrigued. I'm looking over there.

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<v Speaker 2>This time, another thirty seconds go by, and they're ten

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<v Speaker 2>yards close. The same thing happens. The oranges yellow eyes

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<v Speaker 2>look out about six feet off the ground, and little

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<v Speaker 2>green eyes look out at me about three feet off

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<v Speaker 2>the ground. I said, man, that's really cool. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's a sasquatch. But I can't really see any definition

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<v Speaker 2>of the body or anything like that. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't tell I can't prove it a sasquatch. But

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<v Speaker 2>then again, what does that? That's cool? And I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>see the eyes after that. They must have went back

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<v Speaker 2>or something and they started. I was thinking, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>see him anymore. And then but you know, about four

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<v Speaker 2>minutes later, they go back and do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they're ten yards back from before, and the yellow

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<v Speaker 2>eyes yellow orange eyes peak out, and the green eyes

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<v Speaker 2>peak out down below, and they go back behind a

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<v Speaker 2>tree I'm assuming, and they walk back. Now a minute

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<v Speaker 2>later they're ten yards behind and the yellow eyes peak out,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the green and ice peak out, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they go back down the burn the same way. I thought, man,

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<v Speaker 2>that's really cool. They came in doing that and they

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<v Speaker 2>left the same way, and I'm go, man, that was

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<v Speaker 2>really weird. I'm just now I'm excited. So I'm standing there,

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<v Speaker 2>and about five minutes later, I'm standing there, and where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm standing it's there's a dirt road in there, and

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side of the dirt road from me,

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<v Speaker 2>it dips down a ways and it goes up towards

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<v Speaker 2>the camp where the boys are. It slopes down a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit from the road. It's not a drastic slope,

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<v Speaker 2>and it dips down and I'm standing there and all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, up from the other side of the road,

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<v Speaker 2>this big shadow comes up, this big dark shadow, and

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<v Speaker 2>then these two huge red glowing eyes just up here,

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<v Speaker 2>coming up, and it looks at me, and I go

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<v Speaker 2>and I just stood there. My mouth is open. I go,

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap, what is this thing? And this thing is big,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can see it's shadow. It's dark, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>a different dark then what's out there. It's darker than

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<v Speaker 2>the normal surroundings. This thing is dark, and it's got

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<v Speaker 2>two big, huge red glowing eyes on the top of

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is. And it is standing there looking at me,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's maybe thirty feet for me, maybe thirty feet

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just standing I don't know what to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm looking at this thing and it looks at

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<v Speaker 2>me and for a night one Mississippi, two Mississippi, three Mississippi.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it turns and it walks down the road

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<v Speaker 2>away from me, the little sand road we has. It

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<v Speaker 2>was going to go where I was, and it saw

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<v Speaker 2>me and I was in its way, and it just

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<v Speaker 2>oh crap, And it turns and walks down the road

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm standing there, going what did I just see

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<v Speaker 2>this sucker was huge, and it walks down the road

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<v Speaker 2>and I call one of the guys that's down there

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<v Speaker 2>camping through, and I go, hey, this big thing with

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<v Speaker 2>glowing red eyes just came up on the road and

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<v Speaker 2>looked at me. And now it's coming down to your place.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys might not take a look and see if

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<v Speaker 2>you can see it. And so I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>they saw it or not. I think they were in

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<v Speaker 2>their tan or something like that, but man, that was

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<v Speaker 2>really cool. And so the next I told everybody over

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<v Speaker 2>the walking Talk and say, hey, man, you never believe this.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened? Oh that's cool, that's cool. And so the

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<v Speaker 2>next morning, these expeditions, we always have a meeting in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning or later in the morning, and everybody says, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>what happened last night, And so obviously the kids and

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<v Speaker 2>their dads were explaining what was going on. I was like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 2>that's really cool, that's awesome. And then they asked me

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to say, Hey, this huge thing came looking

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<v Speaker 2>at me and it is what it is, and these

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00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:29.440
<v Speaker 2>big red eyes looked at me. And then I walked

412
00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:33.559
<v Speaker 2>down the road and I had gone that morning before

413
00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:35.319
<v Speaker 2>I went to the group meeting, I tried to figure

414
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<v Speaker 2>out how tall it was. And there was a branch

415
00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:40.640
<v Speaker 2>hanging down from one of the trees that I saw

416
00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:42.400
<v Speaker 2>that the eyes were next to, and I went and

417
00:21:42.440 --> 00:21:45.119
<v Speaker 2>measured that and the branch was nine and a half

418
00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:48.559
<v Speaker 2>feet off the ground. So these eyes were nine and

419
00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:50.440
<v Speaker 2>a half feet off the ground. So that thing's probably

420
00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:53.799
<v Speaker 2>a ten foot That was a big dude, And so

421
00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:56.079
<v Speaker 2>I explained this that wow, man, that's really cool. And

422
00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:59.279
<v Speaker 2>my friend the Dale with the night Vision Binocracy, he says, man,

423
00:21:59.319 --> 00:22:02.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna sit with you in your campground or your

424
00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:04.960
<v Speaker 2>camp site tonight and we're going to see if the

425
00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:07.599
<v Speaker 2>same thing happens, because that's really cool. So we had

426
00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:09.880
<v Speaker 2>the boys go ride their bikes again out there and

427
00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:12.119
<v Speaker 2>see if we can do there retreat the same thing

428
00:22:13.319 --> 00:22:16.359
<v Speaker 2>that night. So last night, Saturday night, and so they

429
00:22:16.359 --> 00:22:18.759
<v Speaker 2>did that. So they're out riding around and all that

430
00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:22.759
<v Speaker 2>good stuff. And then they come back and they went

431
00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:25.000
<v Speaker 2>on a night walking stuff and I wasn't at the

432
00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.119
<v Speaker 2>campfire here and come in. I don't know if the

433
00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:29.920
<v Speaker 2>bard owls were hooting at them or the supposed bart

434
00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:32.720
<v Speaker 2>owls were hooting at them. They were really loud, and

435
00:22:32.839 --> 00:22:35.599
<v Speaker 2>think bart owls don't do samurai chatter at the end

436
00:22:35.640 --> 00:22:38.920
<v Speaker 2>of their call, So call it what you will. I

437
00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:41.440
<v Speaker 2>don't think it was a bart owl. And so I'm

438
00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:43.839
<v Speaker 2>sitting there in my campground. Dale comes up and he's

439
00:22:43.880 --> 00:22:46.839
<v Speaker 2>sitting next to me, and it's about the same time.

440
00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:50.279
<v Speaker 2>It's about eleven thirty ishu or whatever it is. And

441
00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:54.400
<v Speaker 2>we're sitting there and what do you know. Down the

442
00:22:54.440 --> 00:22:59.440
<v Speaker 2>burm about thirty yards, here come these yellowish orange eyes

443
00:22:59.480 --> 00:23:01.920
<v Speaker 2>peeking out from behind the tree at about six feet.

444
00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:06.000
<v Speaker 2>And here come the little green eyes peeking out same direction,

445
00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:10.039
<v Speaker 2>about three feet tall. And I go, yeah, they're back,

446
00:23:10.039 --> 00:23:11.359
<v Speaker 2>and he goes, is this is what happened to you

447
00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:14.680
<v Speaker 2>last night? And go exactly and he goes, cool, we're

448
00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:17.920
<v Speaker 2>going to look at them through the night vision with

449
00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:19.880
<v Speaker 2>infrared assist. We'll see if we can see them through

450
00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:25.079
<v Speaker 2>these pedoculars. Okay, cool, that's awesome. So they come again

451
00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:28.000
<v Speaker 2>about a thirty seconds layer they're closer about ten yards.

452
00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:30.559
<v Speaker 2>Here come the orangesh yellow eyes peeking out from behind

453
00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:32.559
<v Speaker 2>the tree about six feet. Here come the little green

454
00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:34.480
<v Speaker 2>ones poking out about three feet and he goes, okay,

455
00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:37.799
<v Speaker 2>I got him I can see him through the night vision,

456
00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:41.519
<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna hit the infrared assist. Here we go.

457
00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:43.319
<v Speaker 2>I go cool, this is going to be great. We're

458
00:23:43.319 --> 00:23:45.200
<v Speaker 2>going to see these things and all that kind of stuff.

459
00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:49.640
<v Speaker 2>The second that Dale hits that infrared assist button on

460
00:23:49.720 --> 00:23:55.599
<v Speaker 2>all those night vision binoculars, everything takes off. We heard

461
00:23:55.640 --> 00:23:59.000
<v Speaker 2>five creatures. These two creatures we were looking at. They

462
00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:00.759
<v Speaker 2>went down the burn to as a swamp. You can

463
00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:02.480
<v Speaker 2>hear them run on and they're heavy boom. We heard

464
00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:05.839
<v Speaker 2>two there. We also heard two on the other side

465
00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:08.279
<v Speaker 2>of us in the camp and there was one north

466
00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:12.920
<v Speaker 2>of us. And we heard five creatures just run, literally run,

467
00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:17.160
<v Speaker 2>stomping as they go, shaking the ground. Run out of

468
00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:21.200
<v Speaker 2>our campsite, just run out of our campsite. Anyone of

469
00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:23.920
<v Speaker 2>these creatures are around, you can tell the air is electric.

470
00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:27.240
<v Speaker 2>You feel that feeling there and you just know something's

471
00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:30.599
<v Speaker 2>around there. Around the second we hit that infrared assist,

472
00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:34.480
<v Speaker 2>all these creatures took off. You could hear them, you

473
00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:38.599
<v Speaker 2>could feel in the ground they're stomping, I mean, and

474
00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:40.319
<v Speaker 2>they ran and they took up and it was like

475
00:24:40.359 --> 00:24:42.720
<v Speaker 2>that electricity that was in the air when they were around.

476
00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:46.640
<v Speaker 2>It's like a bubble burst. It's like these things just

477
00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:50.920
<v Speaker 2>left and you knew they were not coming back. You

478
00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:56.119
<v Speaker 2>knew it. And that's how we think. Can't prove it obviously,

479
00:24:56.720 --> 00:24:59.640
<v Speaker 2>but we think the creatures can see in the infrared,

480
00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:05.160
<v Speaker 2>and so that's why we think a lot of game

481
00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:08.079
<v Speaker 2>cameras they use the infrared. Those you don't really get

482
00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:09.720
<v Speaker 2>a lot of them on game cameras. I know that

483
00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:13.000
<v Speaker 2>we have game camera pictures of them and some people

484
00:25:13.039 --> 00:25:15.279
<v Speaker 2>do and all that kind of stuff, But that just

485
00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:18.519
<v Speaker 2>told us that, hey, they might see this infrared stuff.

486
00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:22.160
<v Speaker 2>And you can put out trio cameras all you want,

487
00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:24.319
<v Speaker 2>but if they're using infrared, I think these things can

488
00:25:24.359 --> 00:25:26.960
<v Speaker 2>see it and they avoid it because they don't want

489
00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:30.839
<v Speaker 2>to be seen. And so that's the second story. That's

490
00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:32.680
<v Speaker 2>the biggie right there. That's the cool one.

491
00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:35.640
<v Speaker 1>But that is something else. So yeah, I got some questions.

492
00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:38.720
<v Speaker 1>So is that the first time that people realized, hey,

493
00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>this they can probably see infrared.

494
00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:45.279
<v Speaker 2>I just told them what I saw. We have a

495
00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:48.000
<v Speaker 2>blue form on there, and I got criticized. There is

496
00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:50.759
<v Speaker 2>no way you can see glowing red eyes because the

497
00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:55.039
<v Speaker 2>moon wasn't out, there's no backlight. These suckers glowed. All

498
00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:58.119
<v Speaker 2>three of them. They glowed And no, they don't do that.

499
00:25:58.200 --> 00:25:59.960
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, hey, I'm just reporting what I saw.

500
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Nobody's a big foot expert, So I

501
00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:05.119
<v Speaker 2>don't care what you've been doing. You're not a big

502
00:26:05.119 --> 00:26:06.680
<v Speaker 2>foot expert. I don't care if you've been on TV

503
00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:08.720
<v Speaker 2>or how many expeditions you've been on. You're not an expert.

504
00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:12.799
<v Speaker 2>But no, that's just what it is. And we just

505
00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:16.319
<v Speaker 2>we try these experiments and stuff. But we never got

506
00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:18.720
<v Speaker 2>at least I know if I never had the opportunity

507
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:22.839
<v Speaker 2>again to try that out. But that was some interesting

508
00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully that's data. That's good data. But all I can

509
00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:29.079
<v Speaker 2>say is that's what we observed. The second that infrared

510
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:33.680
<v Speaker 2>assist was hit. These things knew it and they left.

511
00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:35.000
<v Speaker 2>They took off.

512
00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:39.200
<v Speaker 1>To break down. Maybe for listeners that are not really

513
00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:42.319
<v Speaker 1>aware about what infrared assists. So was that a thing

514
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:44.960
<v Speaker 1>where you press the button and then it's shooting out

515
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:48.079
<v Speaker 1>infrared and they're like, oh, yes, someone's here.

516
00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:54.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, the normal night vision stuff. It just amplifies

517
00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:57.400
<v Speaker 2>the light that's around you. It uses a little bit

518
00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:01.000
<v Speaker 2>of infrared, but not a lot. The INFRAREDUS is supposed

519
00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:05.319
<v Speaker 2>to help you just light up the area. It's you

520
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:07.480
<v Speaker 2>can't see it, your naked eye can't see it. But

521
00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:12.160
<v Speaker 2>the night vision binoculars would amplify that light, turning into

522
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:15.680
<v Speaker 2>something that you can see to use as light to

523
00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:19.200
<v Speaker 2>see what's out there. So it's an amplification. It's not

524
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:22.960
<v Speaker 2>an amplification of the existing light. It's adding infrared light

525
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:26.359
<v Speaker 2>that helps you illuminate the area. So it wasn't the

526
00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:29.720
<v Speaker 2>night vision binoculars. Those were fine. The second that infrared

527
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:32.680
<v Speaker 2>assist button was hit and it shoots all that infrared

528
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:37.119
<v Speaker 2>light out there, they took off. They left. So that's

529
00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:40.880
<v Speaker 2>why we think that they might be able to see

530
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:44.839
<v Speaker 2>in the infrared spectrum, and that's why maybe the trail

531
00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:46.799
<v Speaker 2>cams don't work if they use that technology.

532
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Logically, it does make sense. Are there other things that

533
00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>you guys are aware of that also shoot out infrared

534
00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>or something that's similar. I've heard people will say be careful.

535
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Lot of iPhones with face ID on them, they can

536
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:06.240
<v Speaker 1>shoot stuff out. Or are there any thoughts about that?

537
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:10.799
<v Speaker 2>No, we haven't really investing. I haven't investing. Oh god,

538
00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:13.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know anybody that has or anything like that.

539
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:17.160
<v Speaker 2>So no, this is just the infrared on there. I

540
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:19.559
<v Speaker 2>don't have any information on the rest of that stuff

541
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:20.519
<v Speaker 2>or anything like that.

542
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:26.119
<v Speaker 1>Gotcha question the juveniles running around the cars, that is

543
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:29.359
<v Speaker 1>just that is a fascinating part of the story. Was

544
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>there any follow up around the area to see if

545
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>there were tracks around the cars or any other evidence

546
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:36.680
<v Speaker 1>that was able to be gathered afterwards?

547
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:41.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yes, there the heart the soil was really hard packed.

548
00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>It's really hard packed. It was dry. There's nothing out

549
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:47.519
<v Speaker 2>that You've got the pine straw that's fallen down there.

550
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:51.960
<v Speaker 2>You got a little bit of you know, bush's low

551
00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:55.119
<v Speaker 2>hanging vegetation on the ground. Not a lot of footprints,

552
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:58.400
<v Speaker 2>just a lot of scuff marks, a lot of scuff marks.

553
00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:00.759
<v Speaker 2>We did take a footprint on the top of the

554
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:03.160
<v Speaker 2>berm that we think was left by the big one

555
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:06.440
<v Speaker 2>that was watching over the latrine. We got a footprint

556
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:10.599
<v Speaker 2>out of that didn't turn out all that great because

557
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:12.799
<v Speaker 2>again pinestrauls all over the place to ground this hard

558
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:15.279
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. We got scuff marks. And I went to

559
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:18.640
<v Speaker 2>the area where the big one that I saw walk

560
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.039
<v Speaker 2>down the road and I found scuff marks, but I

561
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:25.559
<v Speaker 2>didn't find any footprints there. I found one later over

562
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Dale's camp, which was down the burn from me. I

563
00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:30.519
<v Speaker 2>found a nice, big old footprint right in the middle

564
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.599
<v Speaker 2>of the duft and everything pretty cool. But as far

565
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.599
<v Speaker 2>as scuff marks, no, we did get a slight hand

566
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:39.240
<v Speaker 2>drag since it was pretty dusty there. The cars had

567
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:41.519
<v Speaker 2>dust on them. We did see some kind of fingerprint

568
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:44.400
<v Speaker 2>type things on the car where you would think a

569
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:47.960
<v Speaker 2>small three foot juvenile would put his hand by looking

570
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:49.839
<v Speaker 2>around the corner, you know, on the fender or something.

571
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:54.200
<v Speaker 2>But we got just it's basically, you know, the dusty

572
00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:57.799
<v Speaker 2>drag marks. No dermal ridges or anything like that. But

573
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:00.720
<v Speaker 2>we did get some stuff on the cars a little bit,

574
00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:02.680
<v Speaker 2>but nothing definitive.

575
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:05.519
<v Speaker 1>Big for society will be right back. After these messages,

576
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:24.960
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like they weren't able to take any video

577
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:27.599
<v Speaker 1>of them as they were running around. They were probably

578
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:29.319
<v Speaker 1>just freaking out by that land.

579
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:34.759
<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, you would be too fast. They're not expecting

580
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:36.440
<v Speaker 2>this to happen there. Hey, we're just gonna grow up

581
00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:38.279
<v Speaker 2>with the big footers and have some fun and knuck

582
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:40.920
<v Speaker 2>it up and see that nothing happens. But no, this

583
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:45.640
<v Speaker 2>is before everybody had high phones and cameras and all

584
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.079
<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. So even if they had one.

585
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:50.240
<v Speaker 2>I think they're a little bit too scared to drag

586
00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:52.039
<v Speaker 2>one out anyway, because they said they're sitting in the

587
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:54.519
<v Speaker 2>middle of their picnic table with a lantern. They're all

588
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>to be huddled together on the top of it, so

589
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that they would have pulled anything out

590
00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:03.920
<v Speaker 2>to view them with that. And the two dads are

591
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:06.519
<v Speaker 2>being protective of their two sons. Two dads, two sons.

592
00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:09.759
<v Speaker 2>You got to protect your young one. Everybody understands, ask,

593
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:12.079
<v Speaker 2>but no, there's not a lot of evidence gather except

594
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:14.079
<v Speaker 2>from one footprint we cast it. I saw it didn't

595
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:16.839
<v Speaker 2>look that great, but it's but it was a very

596
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:20.079
<v Speaker 2>cool experience, and so we can't Those guys that came

597
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:22.759
<v Speaker 2>into our group, we camped a few times with them

598
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:25.759
<v Speaker 2>again and they're good dudes, and we still keep track

599
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:26.599
<v Speaker 2>of them to this day.

600
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:30.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't get a lot where people hear stuff that

601
00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>sounds like this Sierra sounds so that is pretty cool

602
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.119
<v Speaker 1>to hear that. Is it a thing where you guys

603
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>have ever been able to capture that?

604
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, some people haven't. I don't. Personally, I

605
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:44.599
<v Speaker 2>don't put out a lot of audio anymore because putting

606
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:46.200
<v Speaker 2>out audio means you got to listen to it for

607
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:47.880
<v Speaker 2>almost the same length of time, and I don't have

608
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:50.200
<v Speaker 2>the patience to do that. Yeah, but yeah, that was

609
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 2>we heard it. It was really funny. And we're sitting

610
00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:55.880
<v Speaker 2>around the fire, We're hearing this. Who cooks for you?

611
00:31:57.319 --> 00:31:59.799
<v Speaker 2>And we just looked at each other, go, that ain't

612
00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:03.400
<v Speaker 2>no owl that and it was loud too. That is

613
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:06.200
<v Speaker 2>the biggest bart owl with a frog in his throat

614
00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:08.640
<v Speaker 2>that we've ever heard. And so another one would answer it,

615
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:11.799
<v Speaker 2>there's two big loud bard owls with throat problems out there,

616
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:16.359
<v Speaker 2>or it's not a barn owl. Can you can guess

617
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:19.000
<v Speaker 2>what it is. We didn't see anything, but what we

618
00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:21.960
<v Speaker 2>heard really didn't strike us at a bar. It sounded

619
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:23.920
<v Speaker 2>like something that was trying to act like a barn

620
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:27.160
<v Speaker 2>owl or sound like a barn owl, but in our opinion,

621
00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:28.799
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't doing a very good job of it.

622
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>And this place sounds like it is pretty pretty out

623
00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:33.680
<v Speaker 1>in the boonies.

624
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Sounds like pretty much. Yeah, it's it's on a lot

625
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.160
<v Speaker 2>of logging roads. Yep. Wow.

626
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:42.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, what an experience to be involved with that.

627
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:48.039
<v Speaker 1>Those those newbies definitely were a trial by fire for sure,

628
00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:50.599
<v Speaker 1>But thank you for sharing that. Yeah, feel free to

629
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:53.680
<v Speaker 1>continue with anything else you've experienced.

630
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:57.599
<v Speaker 2>Last one this is about I think it's twenty nineteen

631
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:00.720
<v Speaker 2>or so, and I live in a Washington state. I

632
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:03.920
<v Speaker 2>live north of Everett, Washington, and I go my research

633
00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:07.400
<v Speaker 2>area and where I do my investigations. It's mainly the

634
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Mountain Loop Highway which runs from Grantite Falls to Darringtonant's

635
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:13.920
<v Speaker 2>closed during the winter but open during the summer and

636
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.799
<v Speaker 2>spring whenever they get it open. And then also highway

637
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:21.519
<v Speaker 2>to which is Stevens Pass. It's one of those highways

638
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:23.359
<v Speaker 2>that goes through the cascades over there. It goes out

639
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:27.319
<v Speaker 2>of Monroe and over the Stevens Pass and comes down

640
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:30.200
<v Speaker 2>through some other areas in there. You can get to

641
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:32.759
<v Speaker 2>win atch you and all that kind of stuff through it.

642
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, my son, my oldest son, who he's twenty

643
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:40.519
<v Speaker 2>six now, back in about I think it's about twenty nineteen.

644
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:42.680
<v Speaker 2>He and I and one of my friends from work,

645
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:44.799
<v Speaker 2>we just want to go out squatching. And he said,

646
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:46.359
<v Speaker 2>where are we going to go out squatch? We tried

647
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:50.440
<v Speaker 2>to go somewhere it wasn't open. We went out highway too,

648
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:53.240
<v Speaker 2>and we're trying to go down this one road that

649
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:56.279
<v Speaker 2>we know has had watch activity that passed and they

650
00:33:56.599 --> 00:33:58.440
<v Speaker 2>had some recordings down there and all that. And then

651
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:00.960
<v Speaker 2>we went up by Index. We tried to go down

652
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:02.720
<v Speaker 2>this one road, but it was closed, and so we're

653
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:07.200
<v Speaker 2>just drive around. It's dark, it's late. It's about probably

654
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:11.719
<v Speaker 2>eleven PM. So it's we're down there, oh, September October

655
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:15.039
<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen, and we're just trying around. We went around

656
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:16.840
<v Speaker 2>for a place to squatch. You know what. My friend's

657
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:19.400
<v Speaker 2>got a bad leg. I'm getting older and I don't

658
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.079
<v Speaker 2>like running around anymore. So we're just looking for a

659
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.519
<v Speaker 2>place to go squatch. We got you know, we didn't

660
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:26.559
<v Speaker 2>have any thermal cameras at the time. We're just going out.

661
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:29.480
<v Speaker 2>So we went up this one loggie road off Highway too.

662
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:33.360
<v Speaker 2>And we get up the road and we up there

663
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:35.280
<v Speaker 2>about two or three miles or so, and it's out

664
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:37.559
<v Speaker 2>in the forest and everything's dark and stuff, and it's

665
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.880
<v Speaker 2>right by a creek. And we get up there in

666
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:43.039
<v Speaker 2>the roads block there's a wash out. The road's been

667
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:46.159
<v Speaker 2>washed out. Oh. We turn around a little bit, like

668
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:48.159
<v Speaker 2>before you get to the wash out, there's a big

669
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:51.440
<v Speaker 2>wide spot in the road, big circular spot evidently the

670
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:53.480
<v Speaker 2>road's been washed out for while. Its where people go up,

671
00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:56.480
<v Speaker 2>they turn around, or they camp out there. Nobody's up there.

672
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:58.440
<v Speaker 2>So we just thought we'd pull over and get out

673
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:00.559
<v Speaker 2>some chairs. And we're not doing any and we're just

674
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:02.320
<v Speaker 2>we just pull out the chairs and we're just sitting around.

675
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:08.960
<v Speaker 2>We're missing around. And I had some whale sounds, some

676
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Native American flute music and Native American drum music on

677
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:17.039
<v Speaker 2>my phone, and I have a Bluetooth speaker with me

678
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:19.559
<v Speaker 2>and it's connected to the phone, and I thought, hey,

679
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:23.320
<v Speaker 2>in the past, people have played this kind of stuff,

680
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:25.719
<v Speaker 2>whale sounds and drum sounds and flute sounds, and they

681
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:28.480
<v Speaker 2>said sometimes I'm bring the sundsquatches in. I say, hey,

682
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:30.559
<v Speaker 2>you mind if I play those? My son and my

683
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:34.599
<v Speaker 2>friend go ahead, no problem. So we get there and

684
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:37.599
<v Speaker 2>we're playing these sounds. That's going it's going good. So

685
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:39.920
<v Speaker 2>we played the flute sounds and then I played the

686
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:42.400
<v Speaker 2>drum sounds. I played each for about twenty minutes or so,

687
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:47.440
<v Speaker 2>and then I get to the whale sounds and we're

688
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:52.840
<v Speaker 2>playing these whale sounds and we're going on stuff, and

689
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:56.159
<v Speaker 2>I know it's getting late. I want to go back home.

690
00:35:56.840 --> 00:36:00.559
<v Speaker 2>And so I get up and we're sitting about twenty

691
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:02.559
<v Speaker 2>yards away from my pickup truck. We're just in the

692
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:04.119
<v Speaker 2>flat spot. We're out in the middle of the opening.

693
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:08.320
<v Speaker 2>We're out in the trees or anything. And I just

694
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:09.679
<v Speaker 2>get up. I go over to the truck. I put

695
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:11.840
<v Speaker 2>the speaker on top. I'm down, I've turned off the music,

696
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:14.960
<v Speaker 2>and I go up there to the truck, and all

697
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:16.920
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, I'm there for about thirty six All

698
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:20.199
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, my friend and my son run up

699
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:23.039
<v Speaker 2>to me and go, we need to go. What do

700
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:24.599
<v Speaker 2>you mean we need to go? I said, no, after

701
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:28.400
<v Speaker 2>you left, something is run down the road towards us.

702
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Stomp stomp, stomp, stomp. Stop is run down the road.

703
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:34.000
<v Speaker 2>You could feel it shaken. And it's now over there

704
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:36.760
<v Speaker 2>behind those trees. We need to go. And I'm thinking

705
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:39.440
<v Speaker 2>to myself, what in a second, this is why we're here.

706
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:41.840
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean we gotta go? We're not going

707
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:47.519
<v Speaker 2>anywhere and safety first. I don't care anymore. These things

708
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:49.320
<v Speaker 2>can squish me. I'm gonna stand my ground. It doesn't

709
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:53.599
<v Speaker 2>matter to me. But you know, my son and my

710
00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:56.719
<v Speaker 2>friend were now freaked out because now something is big.

711
00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:58.960
<v Speaker 2>It is run down the road and now it's behind

712
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:04.320
<v Speaker 2>a tree about ten yards behind them, and they didn't

713
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:08.760
<v Speaker 2>really want to be there, and so reluctantly I, well,

714
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:11.880
<v Speaker 2>don't we just get in the truck and sit. Okay fine,

715
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I open up the truck. They get in the truck

716
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:15.679
<v Speaker 2>and they're still freaked out. We sat there for about

717
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:18.280
<v Speaker 2>thirty seconds, and they go, can we go? Can we go?

718
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:21.480
<v Speaker 2>They don't want any part of this because they know

719
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:23.360
<v Speaker 2>something big is over there. Just ran down the road

720
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:26.239
<v Speaker 2>and the chairs are still out there, and I said,

721
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:29.639
<v Speaker 2>wait a second, I'm not leaving my chairs out there,

722
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:31.280
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, no, can we just go? We'll come

723
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:34.559
<v Speaker 2>back get them later. I go, no, I'm taking my chairs.

724
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:36.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm a cheap guy and I want to buy new chairs.

725
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:40.119
<v Speaker 2>And so I go walking over there and I'm not

726
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:43.960
<v Speaker 2>seeing anything. I'm not hearing anything, I'm not smelling anything,

727
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:48.039
<v Speaker 2>and I just go take my time. There's those tube chairs.

728
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:50.239
<v Speaker 2>You fold them up, put them in a tube, and

729
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:52.039
<v Speaker 2>so I'm just putting them away and I opened the

730
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:53.480
<v Speaker 2>back of the truck. I throw them in there, and

731
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:56.400
<v Speaker 2>they're just like, come on, we gotta go. We gotta go.

732
00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:59.519
<v Speaker 2>Okay fine, And so we drive away.

733
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:03.679
<v Speaker 3>What is your product? No, dad, I said, dad, it

734
00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:06.519
<v Speaker 3>just came it literally, man down that road. We could

735
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:10.280
<v Speaker 3>feel it shaken and it came running down the road

736
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:13.199
<v Speaker 3>and they thought, man, it's big. I said, you guys,

737
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:14.960
<v Speaker 3>that's why we go on these things.

738
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:18.000
<v Speaker 2>And I know you get more courage the farther you

739
00:38:18.039 --> 00:38:20.559
<v Speaker 2>get away from the enemy or the danger. They're all

740
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:25.440
<v Speaker 2>pretty big and tough. We just picked a random spot

741
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:28.079
<v Speaker 2>and we got out there and we played that music

742
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:33.079
<v Speaker 2>and something happened. And then we get back and he goes, hey,

743
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:35.519
<v Speaker 2>when we first got there, it was just it made

744
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:37.000
<v Speaker 2>him in a little earlier than that, when it was

745
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:38.880
<v Speaker 2>slightly light up, and say, hey, we got out that

746
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:41.199
<v Speaker 2>truck and I went over to the side of the

747
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:43.960
<v Speaker 2>road to take a look that, you know, see what's

748
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:44.360
<v Speaker 2>out there.

749
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:46.239
<v Speaker 4>And the stick came flying out of the woods and

750
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:48.480
<v Speaker 4>landing in front of me, and I go, why didn't

751
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:52.400
<v Speaker 4>you tell me? He goes, I didn't think it was important.

752
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.119
<v Speaker 4>I said, what, I didn't think it was important? He goes, Yeah,

753
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:58.000
<v Speaker 4>I thought I saw a shadow walking back in there, too. Great,

754
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.440
<v Speaker 4>it would have been nice to know, but still you

755
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:01.800
<v Speaker 4>knew something was out there, you know.

756
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:03.440
<v Speaker 2>That's why we game, and then you want to run

757
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:05.880
<v Speaker 2>away as soon as we get some action. He's like, yeah,

758
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm sorry, but you see there's reports. You

759
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:11.119
<v Speaker 2>read the reports or hear the reports. A lot of

760
00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:14.719
<v Speaker 2>times people driving along at night they pull off to

761
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:17.719
<v Speaker 2>the side of the road to use the restroom or

762
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:20.880
<v Speaker 2>whatever for no prayer reason. No, nothing's set up, nobody

763
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:23.000
<v Speaker 2>knows they're gonna be They pull off, and all of

764
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:26.000
<v Speaker 2>a sudden they got a sasquatch either looking at them

765
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:29.079
<v Speaker 2>or throwing stuff at them, or making noise or something

766
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:32.960
<v Speaker 2>just randomly, Like how, that's just bizarre. What are the

767
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:35.119
<v Speaker 2>chances of that? And that's what happened to us. I've

768
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:36.920
<v Speaker 2>always thought that was just kind of like, oh, yeah,

769
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:38.719
<v Speaker 2>you pulled up the side of the road and a

770
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:42.039
<v Speaker 2>sasquatch just happened to be there. Yeah, But then it

771
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:44.599
<v Speaker 2>happens to me we just weren't planning on being there.

772
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.039
<v Speaker 2>Nobody's up there, the road's closed, no reason for anybody

773
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:49.840
<v Speaker 2>be up there. We show up, we sit down, Something

774
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:52.199
<v Speaker 2>throws a stick at my friend. He sees something walking

775
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.599
<v Speaker 2>back there, doesn't tell me, and then later on something

776
00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:59.239
<v Speaker 2>comes running down the road at us. It's like, just bizarre.

777
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Just what are the chances of that just showing up

778
00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:06.800
<v Speaker 2>not planned to be there, and you get sasquatch activity.

779
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:09.400
<v Speaker 2>But then you go on these expeditions or you're planned

780
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:11.639
<v Speaker 2>to go squatching or something, or you're all set up

781
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:14.679
<v Speaker 2>and nothing happens. But that's my last story. That's all

782
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:16.440
<v Speaker 2>I got for you in just go Where's what this

783
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:16.960
<v Speaker 2>happened to me?

784
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:20.679
<v Speaker 1>That last one. I'm I don't think I've ever really

785
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:26.559
<v Speaker 1>heard anyone say about playing whale sounds. That is pretty cool.

786
00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:30.159
<v Speaker 1>So these just basic whale sounds or yeah, you.

787
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:32.519
<v Speaker 2>Know, you know, you just you did blast them out.

788
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:37.360
<v Speaker 2>But it's different. Okay, they might have heard flutes, they

789
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:42.039
<v Speaker 2>might have heard drums, but whale sounds. And we played

790
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:44.559
<v Speaker 2>that on expeditions before and got something going on. So

791
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:47.440
<v Speaker 2>I never did it before, and so I did it,

792
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:50.039
<v Speaker 2>and what do you know, it's just something different. Do

793
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:52.679
<v Speaker 2>they Maybe it's communicating with them. I don't know. I

794
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.039
<v Speaker 2>doubt it, but it's definitely different. Did scare away some

795
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:57.199
<v Speaker 2>campers one time by playing that? I camp down the

796
00:40:57.280 --> 00:40:59.679
<v Speaker 2>road from them, and they were out there and stuff,

797
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:02.679
<v Speaker 2>and I got in my camping spot and I started

798
00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:05.199
<v Speaker 2>playing that weird stuff, and boy, they were out of

799
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:10.159
<v Speaker 2>there in about five minutes. Really, I don't know what, Yeah, yeah,

800
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:14.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, sorry, but well it just kind of funny.

801
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:17.880
<v Speaker 1>That's really funny. I love those stories though, Like that

802
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:21.800
<v Speaker 1>last one. It's like stuff just sometimes happens when you

803
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:24.480
<v Speaker 1>put down a chair and just hang out for a

804
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:26.599
<v Speaker 1>while on a spot and you never know.

805
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.000
<v Speaker 2>It was bizarre, And we went back the next night.

806
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:33.639
<v Speaker 2>We went back the next night. Nothing of course, we'd

807
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:37.039
<v Speaker 2>planned it. We planned to be there, so nothing was

808
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 2>going to happen. But just interesting. I just just the

809
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:44.920
<v Speaker 2>chance that would happen, that's just great. So I give

810
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:47.559
<v Speaker 2>perfect credence to those people who say, yeah, I was

811
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:50.519
<v Speaker 2>driving all night, had a lot of coffee and had

812
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:53.880
<v Speaker 2>to pull over and let some of it out, and

813
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:56.719
<v Speaker 2>there was a something growling at me and shook my

814
00:41:56.760 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 2>car and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, I

815
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:01.880
<v Speaker 2>get it, but that's weird. What sasquatch you doing? Are

816
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:03.599
<v Speaker 2>they waiting for an uber by the side of the road,

817
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:06.800
<v Speaker 2>What are they doing out there? But exactly, you hear

818
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:08.760
<v Speaker 2>that a lot. You hear it a lot.

819
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:13.840
<v Speaker 1>John I Swanse, thank you for coming on to share

820
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:16.800
<v Speaker 1>what you've experienced. Before we end our time, do you

821
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:20.480
<v Speaker 1>have any advice for listeners that are like, I might

822
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>want to try this Bigfoot expedition thing out.

823
00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Go I did it. Stuff happens to newbies all the

824
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<v Speaker 2>time down here in Washington. I used to co host

825
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<v Speaker 2>expeditions with my friend Kirk Brandenburg. We don't I'm getting

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<v Speaker 2>too old. I'm not going to do this anymore. We

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<v Speaker 2>have some great new investigators out here in Washington State.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got Nick Bell, James Washburn, Tim Lyn Alan, Melissa Martinson,

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Taylor. They're all running expeditions for us. They did

830
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<v Speaker 2>a great job this year. They'll do a great job

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<v Speaker 2>next year. I think there's one already out there. But

832
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<v Speaker 2>just come on an expedition. Just come. You can talk squatch.

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<v Speaker 2>When I do my investigations, mainly talking to people, you

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<v Speaker 2>just want to let them tell their story and they

835
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<v Speaker 2>just want to talk to someone who won't think they're

836
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<v Speaker 2>crazy exactly. And so you don't need the next you

837
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:13.039
<v Speaker 2>don't need an experience to come on a BFRO expedition.

838
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<v Speaker 2>You got to be able to camp, bring your stuff

839
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<v Speaker 2>to Washington State. We've got the most sightings out here

840
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<v Speaker 2>in the United States. So the Olympic Expedition or Great

841
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:27.400
<v Speaker 2>the Cascades are great. We've got some great people who

842
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:31.119
<v Speaker 2>are running these things. And I was actually one of

843
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<v Speaker 2>the co hosts on the expedition in twenty twenty three

844
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<v Speaker 2>out with the Olympic Project. I know he had Jonathan's

845
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:40.239
<v Speaker 2>coll in and talk to you about his experiences out there.

846
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<v Speaker 2>So I was out there too.

847
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<v Speaker 1>That was with great stuff. Ye yeah, yep, okay, that's cool.

848
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was fun stuff. That was fun stuff there.

849
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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, just come on. An expedition doesn't have to

850
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<v Speaker 2>be in Washington State. You can go on them anywhere.

851
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<v Speaker 2>But we don't learnally have a lot of people flying in.

852
00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:58.760
<v Speaker 2>We get people coming in from all over the country

853
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:01.280
<v Speaker 2>coming in. Want to go is oh another story. So

854
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:04.559
<v Speaker 2>they were out on a night walk and they were

855
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:07.679
<v Speaker 2>down in one of the places late at night, and

856
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:10.239
<v Speaker 2>we had a thermal drone in the air, and we

857
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:12.800
<v Speaker 2>had the thermal drone over him. The canopy is really

858
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.920
<v Speaker 2>thick where we were, but yet we saw the group

859
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:20.679
<v Speaker 2>and then maybe about thirty thirty five forty yards away

860
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:25.559
<v Speaker 2>from we saw these two huge big heat signatures, round

861
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:27.920
<v Speaker 2>heat signatures. The camera wasn't that great, but we could

862
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:31.559
<v Speaker 2>see him. They're going back and forth side to side

863
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:33.480
<v Speaker 2>looking through It looked like they were looking through the

864
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:35.199
<v Speaker 2>trees trying to look at these people because one of

865
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:38.239
<v Speaker 2>one was walking around. One of the people was walking around,

866
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:40.920
<v Speaker 2>and these things were looking They're moving back and forth

867
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.159
<v Speaker 2>and can and watching this thing. But there were these

868
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:46.960
<v Speaker 2>two huge heat signatures watching what we know to be

869
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:50.519
<v Speaker 2>about six or seven people who look very small compared

870
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:52.920
<v Speaker 2>to these heat signatures. So we think we got a

871
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:55.679
<v Speaker 2>couple of squatches on camera doing it. It's in the

872
00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:58.400
<v Speaker 2>same area where the year before we had some squatches

873
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:00.800
<v Speaker 2>on the thermal but we weren't recording at the same time,

874
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:03.119
<v Speaker 2>so there's some crazy stuff that was happening in that area.

875
00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:06.960
<v Speaker 2>But I've seen two big, huge heat signatures watching a

876
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:09.920
<v Speaker 2>group of people that were a lot smaller than those

877
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:13.119
<v Speaker 2>two heat signatures. So that's cool.

878
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.480
<v Speaker 1>That is wild stuff. I love talking to you guys,

879
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and people can go to as a bfro dot net

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00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:21.400
<v Speaker 1>if they want to get more info about the expeditions.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, there's a list of expeditions on there. They're

882
00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:27.960
<v Speaker 2>just starting. They normally they normally come on about January

883
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:31.239
<v Speaker 2>February because Matt wants to get as many expeditions on

884
00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:34.239
<v Speaker 2>the docket lined up as soon as possible, but personal

885
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:36.320
<v Speaker 2>schedules we got to figure out when we have time

886
00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:37.760
<v Speaker 2>to do it, and not because they are our other

887
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:39.880
<v Speaker 2>investigators are running them out. I don't do too much

888
00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:42.159
<v Speaker 2>with that anymore. I do show up, but I don't

889
00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:45.920
<v Speaker 2>run them. But yeah, just go to the BFRO website.

890
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:48.360
<v Speaker 2>I know some people I have issues with the BFO.

891
00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:51.159
<v Speaker 2>I get it. That's fine, but we're not all Matt Moneymaker,

892
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:53.039
<v Speaker 2>And be honest, Matt money Maker is great guy. I

893
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:55.599
<v Speaker 2>have no problems with that money Maker and with the

894
00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:57.719
<v Speaker 2>rest of the BFRO investigators I met and that I

895
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:01.679
<v Speaker 2>worked with. So come on out, join us have some fun. Obviously,

896
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:04.440
<v Speaker 2>we can't guarantee any sasquatch activity. We don't have them

897
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:06.159
<v Speaker 2>on speed down, we can't tell them where to show

898
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:10.360
<v Speaker 2>up coordinate with them. But we take you to spots

899
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:13.519
<v Speaker 2>where we've had a lot of activity, and we want

900
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:16.880
<v Speaker 2>to show you where we go to sasquatch to watch

901
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:19.280
<v Speaker 2>sasquatch or listen or whatever we do. And there's a

902
00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:21.239
<v Speaker 2>really good chance when you come out with the Washington

903
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:25.280
<v Speaker 2>BFRORO that you'll either hear one or find a track

904
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:26.599
<v Speaker 2>or maybe see one.

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00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely, man, it was a pleasure chatting with you.

906
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<v Speaker 2>John.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we're able to get connected, and thank you

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00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.679
<v Speaker 1>for sharing some really cool things that happened to the

909
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.000
<v Speaker 1>BFRO in Washington over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's my pleasure. Jeremiah, it's nice to make your acquaintance,

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<v Speaker 2>and thanks to everybody for listening here.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the list.

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<v Speaker 6>These are all on Oregon by the way, Oakridge, Dexter

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<v Speaker 6>Fall Creek, to Shoot National Forest Area, Cultist Lake, Spirit Lake,

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<v Speaker 6>Stubtle Lake, Mackenzie River Area, Sweet Home Area, the area

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<v Speaker 6>west of Createrlake, east of two point thirty West Diamond

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<v Speaker 6>Lake Highway and north of sixty two Creater Lake Highway.

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