Speaker 1: I am a man who believed that I died twenty
Speaker 1: years ago, and I lived like a man who is
Speaker 1: dead already.
Speaker 2: I have no fear whatsoever of anybody or anything.
Speaker 3: It's Gary Webb.
Speaker 2: I am an investigative journalist can In nineteen ninety.
Speaker 4: Six, I wrote a series of stories in termed Parkwayans,
Speaker 4: which was about CIA involvement.
Speaker 5: In I You, a man who wasn't so dead smiles
Speaker 5: of us. All all a man can do is smile back.
Speaker 6: Both in Stolen Bone the Secret Society, it's so sick
Speaker 6: as we can't talk about.
Speaker 2: What does that mean for America?
Speaker 4: You are going to go there?
Speaker 3: I haven't seen the number three two two.
Speaker 2: My sad duty to report this afternoon that my friend
Speaker 2: and colleague Tim Russe collapsed and died earlier this afternoon.
Speaker 4: I may die in this fel tonight on in the
Speaker 4: area to tomorrow.
Speaker 3: I'm aslake.
Speaker 7: What possible difference.
Speaker 6: Can I make? And no official of my administration, whether
Speaker 6: his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should
Speaker 6: interpret my words here to night as an excuse to
Speaker 6: sense of the news, to stifle descent, to cover Obama stakes,
Speaker 6: or to withhold from the press and the public the
Speaker 6: facts they deserve to know.
Speaker 7: Welcome back, already, Deadheads, your favorite live call conspiracy show.
Speaker 7: We are joined as always by Austin Picard. I am
Speaker 7: here as sometimes when the Internet Feds aren't attacking me.
Speaker 7: Hopefully we can get through this today. I do have
Speaker 7: something coming tech wise. I think we should be good
Speaker 7: Golden after by, but I don't know. It's not here
Speaker 7: till tomorrow. But hopefully we should be good today. I
Speaker 7: tried some other tricks to try to make things go
Speaker 7: a little bit smoother, give you guys a better view
Speaker 7: the experience, so I don't have that embarrassment. But Austin,
Speaker 7: I'm glad to be with you.
Speaker 4: Was it was.
Speaker 7: It was rough sitting on the outside watching in as
Speaker 7: you were spurging on. I was genuinely fascinated from the
Speaker 7: outside looking good, so much so that I hit you
Speaker 7: up the next day. And we are actually going to
Speaker 7: be turning that that like off the cuff rant that
Speaker 7: you did, into another Waco episode that we'll be doing
Speaker 7: behind the paywall on my show on Thursday. It'll drop
Speaker 7: for the poors in a couple of weeks, but no
Speaker 7: other week. Crazy. Nonetheless, I'm back on YouTube censorship seems
Speaker 7: to be a thing. I guess now you can get
Speaker 7: killed in the streets for saying the N word. And
Speaker 7: that's just America, isn't it. Awestin, This is America we
Speaker 7: live in, right, But Austin pleasure to.
Speaker 2: Be with you, of course, brother. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of I feel like I'm just in the
Speaker 2: mode of the ongoing realization that this dystopian pendulum is
Speaker 2: being pushed further in the wrong direction by these very
Speaker 2: unimpressive yet extraordinarily polarizing populous puppets, right, And I just
Speaker 2: think that I'm so kind of sick and tired of
Speaker 2: the effectiveness of the ideological tool being just weaponized and consistently,
Speaker 2: you know, just it's so effective in terms of ushering
Speaker 2: in a dystopian reaction. And I think that that providing
Speaker 2: that pretext is what is always, you know, kind of
Speaker 2: strategically at play. And I just think psychologically we should
Speaker 2: be very much, you know, overly concerned with that just
Speaker 2: being hyperactive in terms of this propaganda that is very
Speaker 2: much I think overrepresented in the weekly media cycle that
Speaker 2: is intended to demoralize us, as we say so often.
Speaker 2: So I feel as if last week was just a
Speaker 2: perfect example of kind of the episode getting nuked on
Speaker 2: YouTube and online censorship, in my opinion, seems to be
Speaker 2: ratching back up honestly, and apparently we somehow violated YouTube's
Speaker 2: firearms policy last week, and they sent me this kind
Speaker 2: of suspicious email that I thought whenever Jose called me
Speaker 2: the next day, I hadn't actually read it, and I
Speaker 2: clearly I just republished the episode when I realized I
Speaker 2: hadn't gotten a strike, and so just right after we
Speaker 2: got finished backstage, just kind of chopping it up, I
Speaker 2: went ahead and republished on YouTube and didn't receive any
Speaker 2: kind of outcome or consequence in terms of that. But
Speaker 2: the email that they sent me in regard to the
Speaker 2: reason why they removed my content was that apparently we
Speaker 2: violated their firearms policy, and so I look into and
Speaker 2: of course they say, we know you may not have
Speaker 2: realized this was a violation of our policies, so we're
Speaker 2: not applying a strike to your channel. However, they did
Speaker 2: remove the content. So the time it allegedly occurred the
Speaker 2: example was around zero zero zero zero zero one in
Speaker 2: the video. So someone please enlighten me on how exactly
Speaker 2: we could have violated YouTube's firearms policy, which no one
Speaker 2: obviously knows because that's not I would imagine it would
Speaker 2: be very vague in terms of how they would even
Speaker 2: apply this right, especially anytime you are allowed to appeal.
Speaker 2: The appeal process is such a joke in general. So
Speaker 2: but yeah, I don't know. I just I felt like
Speaker 2: this is kind of I don't know, being hyperactivated yet
Speaker 2: once more. And it feels as if this current administration
Speaker 2: is benefiting directly from from what did we see They
Speaker 2: kind of reframed after the White House correspondence, then are shooting?
Speaker 2: They tried to essentially kind of attached the manifesto to
Speaker 2: all online digital profiles who are essentially in any way
Speaker 2: dissenting voices and right and especially conspiratorial. Just in terms of, yeah,
Speaker 2: questioning the official narrative of things.
Speaker 7: Did you see the new counter terrorism strategy, Maybe that's
Speaker 7: what you're leading in. Would you see the first page
Speaker 7: ended with if you mean to do harm? It's it's
Speaker 7: I mean, it does have this like qualifying statement, like
Speaker 7: if you mean to do harm or to Americans or
Speaker 7: planning to do harm Americans or something, it's like we
Speaker 7: will find you and we will kill you. But it's
Speaker 7: one of those statements that when you think about what
Speaker 7: they're actually saying, and also bear in mind that you're
Speaker 7: talking about the criminal justice system, this is and also
Speaker 7: your furthermore, the the laxadaisical way with which they may
Speaker 7: define each little sub section of the that like that
Speaker 7: full sentence kind of makes you go, holy shit, and
Speaker 7: it really should make you pucker up. And I think
Speaker 7: the White House actually shortly after they like made like
Speaker 7: a meme out of it, like kind of like badass,
Speaker 7: like we will find you, we will kill you, like something,
Speaker 7: so they doubled down on it. So it's very very
Speaker 7: creepy shit it is.
Speaker 2: And they and they essentially I think it was Caroline
Speaker 2: Levin or I can't remember which personality it was that
Speaker 2: kind of you know, made the statement, but it essentially was.
Speaker 2: And then Trump reiterated as much was was basically democratic
Speaker 2: hate speech, right, So like a left, this form of
Speaker 2: of hate speech is now obviously being it's it's just
Speaker 2: a rebrand of of what was if you remember, right,
Speaker 2: wasn't Trump supposed to now clearly you you know my
Speaker 2: opinions on this, and and but with the point being
Speaker 2: is that at face value, right, what Trump allegedly represented
Speaker 2: was fake news, right, kind of pushing back against that
Speaker 2: that I don't know, authoritarian agenda of violating free speech
Speaker 2: and and then utilizing right the right wing as in
Speaker 2: a great example of how free speech is going too far,
Speaker 2: and and and things of that nature. And now this
Speaker 2: rebrand is taking place, and essentially the exact same framework
Speaker 2: is being just perfectly kind of tied around and in
Speaker 2: the perfect bow the leftist progressive ideology in a certain way,
Speaker 2: while also simultaneously kind of uh, I don't know, effect
Speaker 2: exploiting the just both ends opposite ends of the ideological spectrum.
Speaker 2: I think, so it's not just entirely isolated to the
Speaker 2: leftist paradigm. But I do think that the White House
Speaker 2: Correspondence dinner shooting is a great example of this leftist
Speaker 2: progressive Patsy teacher right. I view him a lot like
Speaker 2: if you remember the progressive Patsy in the in the
Speaker 2: Palisades fire right, the arsonist he allegedly had an obsession
Speaker 2: with Luigi Mangioni. I'm like, man, these things are just
Speaker 2: overlapping you a way.
Speaker 7: Sid side side thing which we probably shouldn't get too
Speaker 7: a far afield from that but by the way, it
Speaker 7: looks like that guy is probably getting off. But back
Speaker 7: to back to what you were saying, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean, we live in unprecedented times, my friend.
Speaker 7: And honestly, from what I what I understand of, he
Speaker 7: actually probably should get off because it looks like they
Speaker 7: contaminated the funk out of the the the struggle with
Speaker 7: evidence evidence, so anyways, but not to get.
Speaker 2: Tied, and I would imagine, but that's just my own
Speaker 2: personal opinion. I was kind of thinking. I had the
Speaker 2: opportunity to go to Sam's comedy show last night that
Speaker 2: I was talking to you about privately, and we were
Speaker 2: talking after the show just briefly about you know, essentially
Speaker 2: the chud the Builder incident rights and what I view
Speaker 2: as basically well. And I should preface this by saying
Speaker 2: that I noticed over the past week, and I hope
Speaker 2: that it's my own browser that I'm having problems with,
Speaker 2: even though that would be a problem for me, still,
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that what I'm seeing as far as temporarily
Speaker 2: being suspended Simon Dovey's website right, the author of I
Speaker 2: have the Chickenhawk, and I noticed that over the past week,
Speaker 2: and I just realized how what a vital and primary
Speaker 2: resource he has been, especially that website, just accumulating evidence
Speaker 2: in a way that I feel is extraordinarily valuable. And
Speaker 2: so it does seem as, if you know this, it's
Speaker 2: part too conveniently timed, considering the nude call for online censorship,
Speaker 2: and they did say as much in terms of just
Speaker 2: following the White House correspondence dinner shooting and kind of
Speaker 2: the reaction to it was basically this renewed call for
Speaker 2: online censorship, and so.
Speaker 7: This anation damn you Jeremy Hambley for real, which by
Speaker 7: the way, I was thinking about it, not to get
Speaker 7: off the Jeremy Hambley for those around it, where I
Speaker 7: think I mentioned it last week quickly, but I was
Speaker 7: having internet problems. But I was on a strike all
Speaker 7: week last week for although I think, I mean, maybe
Speaker 7: it's just internet censorship, maybe it's just coincidence, but I'm
Speaker 7: pretty sure it's actually due I mean not pretty sure.
Speaker 7: I have a strong vibe that it's from the my
Speaker 7: egging onto the quartering. There was some quartering drama recently
Speaker 7: which he got into it with this this show called
Speaker 7: The Quino Casino. There's like these kind of sallacious rumors,
Speaker 7: and you know, there's fun stuff that people were having,
Speaker 7: so I could see why people think it's a little
Speaker 7: bit drama. But apparently there's accusations that perhaps, uh, the
Speaker 7: quartering has some sort of like jew bull cuck thing
Speaker 7: or whatever. And so these people being a comedy show,
Speaker 7: they made fun of them, and even then I don't
Speaker 7: think they typically focused in on that too much, actually
Speaker 7: used to They typically make fun of other stuff. But
Speaker 7: he used it as like a reasoning of like harassment.
Speaker 7: But it's a quartering. He's like two million fucking subs,
Speaker 7: like he's one of the biggest YouTube channels out there.
Speaker 7: And then he there became all these threats that he
Speaker 7: was gonna take down their YouTube channel. It was like
Speaker 7: basically there were dms that were coming out. There were
Speaker 7: like even tweets that he put out. There was like
Speaker 7: so much showing people have document the fuck out of this.
Speaker 7: This guy was said he was going to remove these
Speaker 7: people off YouTube, and then you know, lo and behold,
Speaker 7: they get you like they get removed off YouTube, and
Speaker 7: then that then obviously make things way worse. And then
Speaker 7: also a bunch of other people started picking up this
Speaker 7: story even more and then a bunch of other channels
Speaker 7: started getting taken down as it just so happened Kwind
Speaker 7: they were also covering these. Now, I think a lot
Speaker 7: of people think I always bring this up whenever I've
Speaker 7: mentioned this. There are literally AI tools out there to
Speaker 7: check for when your name is mentioned, like and I
Speaker 7: actually would recommend that for content creators. I don't have
Speaker 7: it because I'm a tech retard, but from my understanding,
Speaker 7: it's like you can probably program it for different terms
Speaker 7: to bring it up when your name's mentioned. Great for
Speaker 7: networking because it's like your name's mentioned, you're like, oh,
Speaker 7: I didn't know he was a fan of mine. Oh
Speaker 7: it's somebody I could have a show on with or whatever.
Speaker 7: But on the flip side, if you're somebody like a
Speaker 7: Jeremy Hambley the Quartering and you know people are talking
Speaker 7: about your jew bullcuck or whatever, that you could then
Speaker 7: type make put certain little terms in the little bar
Speaker 7: and be like oh, bing bing these are the people
Speaker 7: mentioning it. It's not that I'm necessarily thinking that, Like
Speaker 7: Jeremy Hambley is like watching my show daily and he's
Speaker 7: like how dare he? But it's just kind of like
Speaker 7: you come up in a drag net of every like
Speaker 7: these terms being say that it set out there in
Speaker 7: the ether and so they knew it. And as as
Speaker 7: you were mentioned mentioning how yours got taken down, don't
Speaker 7: know how. I didn't even think about it. I was
Speaker 7: not on YouTube at that point in time. That was
Speaker 7: the first moment I'd poked my head back up on YouTube.
Speaker 3: Was that?
Speaker 7: So maybe maybe? I mean I doubt it, so maybe
Speaker 7: it was literally me just showing up. The Feds tried
Speaker 7: to fuck with my internet, and I kept trying to
Speaker 7: come back. I came back multiple times, and so that's
Speaker 7: maybe that's when they were like, fuck you, all right, fine,
Speaker 7: you just get the band ammer. But in essence, damn you.
Speaker 7: Jeremy Hambley, I think it was er. I think it
Speaker 7: was Jeremy Hambley that got me. But they got me
Speaker 7: for hate speech and they didn't even give me a
Speaker 7: time stamp. And it was on an episode that I
Speaker 7: don't know. Maybe I could have actually, I'll be honest,
Speaker 7: it could have been hate speech by YouTube standards for
Speaker 7: all I know. I went pretty hard in the paint,
Speaker 7: I think on that episode, but I didn't even get
Speaker 7: time stamp. I appeeled it. I mean, it is what
Speaker 7: it is. So I'm sitting on a single strike right now.
Speaker 7: If I get another one, I won't be able to
Speaker 7: do it for two more weeks, you know, won't be
Speaker 7: able to post anything. And then I'll also be sitting
Speaker 7: on two strikes, you know, waiting to get a third.
Speaker 7: So I think if I go a few months, this
Speaker 7: will cool off. But you gotta watch when you talk
Speaker 7: about big jair or a big YouTube count. But while
Speaker 7: it sounds ridiculous, I'm not necessarily saying this is like
Speaker 7: maybe it is just a silly little side thing with
Speaker 7: the handbleys of the world. But I've kind of had
Speaker 7: this thoughts when it comes to the media and the
Speaker 7: new the new new paradigm that the certain characters, like
Speaker 7: the tim Pooles, the Quarterings, like that's kind of what's
Speaker 7: trying to cement themselves as the new establishment in this
Speaker 7: in this sphere, Like those sorts of people. So like,
Speaker 7: while this is ridiculous and it's a bunch of you know,
Speaker 7: retards talking about the Quarterings, you know, jew Bowl and
Speaker 7: having all sorts of fun and you know, making fun
Speaker 7: of at its core, it's actually about censorship being you know,
Speaker 7: and being done in such a way that it's incredibly
Speaker 7: advantageous to essentially what is the new establishment on these
Speaker 7: on these platforms, in my opinion, So I think it's
Speaker 7: actually super concerning, and that is kind of like the
Speaker 7: through line through all that I think.
Speaker 2: Man, it's it's the influencer and dust complex, right, it
Speaker 2: legitimately does apply. And I think that all of these
Speaker 2: strange First Amendment psyops, that is what they will inevitably affect,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, and at the very least set the
Speaker 2: stage for that potential, you know, in terms of it
Speaker 2: potentially coming to fruition and that is dystopian as hell
Speaker 2: and authoritarian and in every way. And I think that
Speaker 2: you know, if you I would briefly mention this in
Speaker 2: private as well, but if you combine the concept concept
Speaker 2: of co intel pro versus pat con regarding sophisticated covert
Speaker 2: operations that were engineered to exploit and weaponize ideology on
Speaker 2: opposite ends of the political spectrum, like this is a
Speaker 2: divisive tactic of ideological subversion that in my opinion, sets
Speaker 2: the stage for this dystopian pretext as we've been illustrating
Speaker 2: in a way. And so I believe a form of
Speaker 2: this routinely is being practiced by the intelligence community, right,
Speaker 2: and that this exploitative tool that it has become never
Speaker 2: lost any value whatsoever. And and so I mean a
Speaker 2: more recent example of this you could basically just in
Speaker 2: terms of that could possibly fall into this category.
Speaker 7: I guess, right with real quick hold that thought. We've
Speaker 7: I've been up for like five minutes. I forget you
Speaker 7: mentioned the phone lines are open for those who, uh,
Speaker 7: you know, didn't notice one eight three three seven two
Speaker 7: two three three two three one eight three three seven
Speaker 7: two two dead call into the show.
Speaker 2: But go ahead, and Austin, Yeah, no, I just I
Speaker 2: feel like the best like more recent examples that are
Speaker 2: relevant in terms of I don't know, possibly falling into
Speaker 2: this category. As I said, it's this Chudd the Builder.
Speaker 2: I mean it really the way Sam told me last night,
Speaker 2: He's like Chudd the Freemasonic Builder. What is the Builder
Speaker 2: free Mason like even in its own at face value,
Speaker 2: I get it right, That's that's kind of a loose
Speaker 2: face value kind of layer that you could tie in.
Speaker 2: But I do legitimately believe that they do not leave
Speaker 2: any of these just subversive measures untapped and unused and
Speaker 2: unutilized in terms of these psychological operations. So I can
Speaker 2: see a world where Chud the Builder is legitimately just
Speaker 2: a fake personality profile constructed by the intelligence community to
Speaker 2: essentially activate an asset and basically push a dystopian pretext
Speaker 2: to violate the First Amendment and basically claim that look
Speaker 2: what happens when you allow the First Amendment to be
Speaker 2: unbridled and allow these influencers, right when these choice examples
Speaker 2: that they consistently would point to to become really the
Speaker 2: mountain the hill to die on. Unfortunately, and that's what
Speaker 2: effectively is happening, because in a way it's I mean,
Speaker 2: who would actually want to even defend a person like
Speaker 2: this in reality? You know, just morally speaking, I'm not
Speaker 2: talking about free speech. Hate speech, dude, I don't believe
Speaker 2: in hate speech.
Speaker 7: You already know this.
Speaker 2: It's just ridiculous to me to be so immoral and unethical,
Speaker 2: even if it is entirely organic and an immoral attempt
Speaker 2: to essentially profit off of emotional outrage. Man, this is
Speaker 2: the culture and the society we have essentially allowed to
Speaker 2: develop around us, and we ourselves have participated in, and
Speaker 2: the fact that any of this is even a priority
Speaker 2: in our minds right, and that they can effectively exploit
Speaker 2: these opportunities is in its own right kind of a
Speaker 2: reflection on society at large, and that that's unfortunate in
Speaker 2: my opinion. And I just feel like, not only would
Speaker 2: it be Chud the Freemasonic Builder as an example, but
Speaker 2: as I mentioned before, our latest p aggressive teacher and
Speaker 2: mind controlled Mantrainean puppet, Cole Thomas Allen. In my opinion,
Speaker 2: who knows, but but still that's what it feels like.
Speaker 7: I've talked to I did want to take a beat
Speaker 7: on the the Chud the Builder things. I have thoughts
Speaker 7: there too. I've talked about that. I've talked about it,
Speaker 7: I think it once or twice in the show. I mean,
Speaker 7: there was a couple similarly themed stories. There was the
Speaker 7: Jeremy Kaufman story, uh, and there was this story, and
Speaker 7: both seem to you know, have similar notes, And like,
Speaker 7: I don't I get why people struggle with this In
Speaker 7: a certain sense, it is like, you know, I heard
Speaker 7: herd or just the word and uh, you know, oh
Speaker 7: no he said the word, which to that, I guess
Speaker 7: my understanding is I I this is why I don't
Speaker 7: like the idea of like rights being understood as anything
Speaker 7: other than like property rights, because I think if you
Speaker 7: understand that like everything, the the every like for example,
Speaker 7: like the the Kaufman thing, I think happened on like
Speaker 7: a grocer in a grocery store, parking lot or something,
Speaker 7: so that's fairly easily resolvable in my opinion. It's like, hey,
Speaker 7: you're on somebody other, somebody else's property.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 7: But anyways to get them getting a little bit off
Speaker 7: off kilter. But the idea is that like, yeah, you
Speaker 7: can say things. And I'm someone who's you know, I
Speaker 7: was ontire gang. I'm like the NFTD guy. Like I've
Speaker 7: said the no no word. I'm not going to because
Speaker 7: it got busted for hate speech. Uh, but like I
Speaker 7: don't care. It's just a word. And if I think
Speaker 7: it's funny or whatever. But like I like the I
Speaker 7: the I like some of the videos of like what
Speaker 7: I've seen Chud doing is like out in public. It's
Speaker 7: just like I don't know if i'd say like horrified,
Speaker 7: but it's like dude, what are you doing? Like this
Speaker 7: would be the sort of thing that if my kids
Speaker 7: were around, I'd be like and I could overhear him.
Speaker 7: If I'd just be like, what is the fun I'd
Speaker 7: be like, come on, let's go. Let's like i'd almost
Speaker 7: push him over there, like what is this? Like it's
Speaker 7: nuisance streaming. Then you add to it that you're obviously
Speaker 7: I know you're like, oh, he's just saying these words
Speaker 7: cause he's trying to break the barriers of free speech
Speaker 7: or whatever. And I'm all for the idea of getting
Speaker 7: over this victim mentality. But if you're going out there
Speaker 7: with this like like, hey, there are people who behave
Speaker 7: in a certain way when I when I behave a
Speaker 7: certain way, and then you go and behave that way,
Speaker 7: it's like are you not just in You're then like
Speaker 7: the irony of being like, oh, what are you gonna chimp?
Speaker 7: It's like you're just chipping on another level in a
Speaker 7: certain sense, like if you are understanding that, hey, there
Speaker 7: are certain people that I think will behave violently if
Speaker 7: I behave in this way, does it make it okay
Speaker 7: for them to do it? But like it's also like
Speaker 7: what you're like, you're cognizant of this, and yet you're
Speaker 7: still engaging in this behavior in an area, And then
Speaker 7: it's like even complicates it more with somebody like a
Speaker 7: Chud when it's like, I don't know, there's this ridiculous
Speaker 7: idea that you need to like sacrifice everything or whatever
Speaker 7: for like free speech. And it's like, what, so he
Speaker 7: can say the N word in public, like and be
Speaker 7: a public nuisance and now he doesn't want to get
Speaker 7: to be around his kids. I like, because he has
Speaker 7: a kid, like that should have been his priority. Like so,
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know, it's just a I think
Speaker 7: it's not something that now I don't think necessarily depending
Speaker 7: on what the specifics are, it's kind of up in
Speaker 7: the air. I guess what exactly happened there. But assuming
Speaker 7: like his take or whatever, that it was this guy
Speaker 7: genuinely attacked or whatever, like, yes he should be able
Speaker 7: to fucking like then that guy should go to jail
Speaker 7: for attacking Chud and jud should get off scott free.
Speaker 7: But I also don't agree with the people, Like I
Speaker 7: guess if you want to support that, if that's what
Speaker 7: you want to support, fine, But me even with someone
Speaker 7: who's like about his free speech, that I think you
Speaker 7: can get. I've I've found the N word humorous many times,
Speaker 7: Like I just I can't support that, not financially, Like,
Speaker 7: what is this? It's just a crazy uncivil way of behaving.
Speaker 7: Like if you are, if like, if you're genuinely of
Speaker 7: this belief that there is a whole class of people
Speaker 7: they're gonna behave in a certain way, then why would
Speaker 7: you inconvenience other people? Let's say even let's say you
Speaker 7: don't care about that group people, there's other people of
Speaker 7: your similar group that are gonna be going about in
Speaker 7: public with you. And you're out there antagonizing the other
Speaker 7: group that you seem to think will be antagonized to
Speaker 7: violence by a magic word. You're inconveniencing everyone. It's fucking annoying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I really do think that the cowardice involved
Speaker 2: with even needing to bring a firearm to a provocative
Speaker 2: sort of rage bait content creation. Uh you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know avenue of opportunity that you're clearly exploiting, right,
Speaker 2: which is outside of this this uh uh this courthouse
Speaker 2: in Tennessee.
Speaker 3: I believe it was.
Speaker 2: And for anyone who doesn't know, this guy's name was
Speaker 2: Dalton Eagerly, that's Chud the builder. And uh and by
Speaker 2: the way, builder could also be contractor. You could you
Speaker 2: could think and contractor to me suggests military contractor of
Speaker 2: some kind potentially. I'm just saying, uh, private mercenaries are real,
Speaker 2: and that doesn't mean that you have to be a
Speaker 2: special forces operative. You can legitimately just be an asset
Speaker 2: to the intelligence community at large. So, uh, just throwing
Speaker 2: it out there, these are legitimate possibilities, and I will
Speaker 2: reinforce that that uh, you know, loose allegation just in
Speaker 2: a certain sense, uh, with with just a strained pattern
Speaker 2: that you can you can recognize in terms of this case,
Speaker 2: specifically in the way in which it chronologically went public, right,
Speaker 2: I find that interesting. And anyway, he's being held on
Speaker 2: like a one point to twenty five million dollars bond
Speaker 2: or something after being charged with attempted murder, and so
Speaker 2: I believe it was. I think he was charged. He's
Speaker 2: obviously he was arrested later that day after being taken
Speaker 2: off on a stretcher. I think there's pictures of that.
Speaker 2: But he was trying to live stream it as well,
Speaker 2: which by the way that happened with it will we'll
Speaker 2: get into the details of this strange mosque shooting that
Speaker 2: just happened in San Diego, but they were attempting to
Speaker 2: live stream at the same as the individual in the
Speaker 2: Buffalo shooting at the supermarket, the top supermarket. So the
Speaker 2: fact that he was an alleged inspiration for their motivation
Speaker 2: to even engage in this heinous crime is worthy enough
Speaker 2: and notable enough, obviously. But anyway, so eitherily Chud the
Speaker 2: builder was was apparently charged with not only attempted murder,
Speaker 2: but employing a firearm during a dangerous felony, aggravated assault,
Speaker 2: and reckless endagerment with a deadly weapon, according to the
Speaker 2: Sheriff's office. But what I thought was kind of funny
Speaker 2: is that he obviously graized himself whenever he was firing
Speaker 2: and what had to be treated for minor wounds because
Speaker 2: he shot himself essentially, so it kind of shows the
Speaker 2: level of just his advanced knowledge of firearms in the
Speaker 2: first place and training as well. But yeah, I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: that just in terms of even needing to bring a
Speaker 2: firearm to that environment is escalating inherently. But beyond that,
Speaker 2: you know, it shows the level of cowardice to the
Speaker 2: fact that you're unwilling to say these things to another
Speaker 2: man eye to eye face to face and back that
Speaker 2: up physically if an altercation were to ensue and you know,
Speaker 2: maybe get some MMA training or learn jiujit who are something,
Speaker 2: and and then go out there and try and you know,
Speaker 2: basically provoke people into an altercation. Uh, physically, But even that,
Speaker 2: it's like, who actually would go through that after legitimately
Speaker 2: training as a man and becoming a proficient in any
Speaker 2: realm of that takes uh, you know, legitimate discipline. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's not happening with the person.
Speaker 7: Those kind of people avoid conflict now. I'd see north
Speaker 7: Side in the chat, there's there is a point people
Speaker 7: are bringing up, is you know, bringing up this like
Speaker 7: unequal treatment? North Side says, there, I agree with most
Speaker 7: of what you're saying, Jose. However, the chud the builder
Speaker 7: gets a one point two five million dollar bond the
Speaker 7: same week a black dude gets a fifteen K bond
Speaker 7: for raping a dead white girl. Well, to that, north Side,
Speaker 7: I say, well, she's dead, so is it rape? I'm
Speaker 7: just kidding. That's that's joking. So I don't know the
Speaker 7: fifteen k. Maybe there's I'm just kidding. I'm being stupid,
Speaker 7: But no, there is something to that. But I do
Speaker 7: agree there is obviously a double standard here, but the
Speaker 7: fix to that isn't then going a lot like well,
Speaker 7: then like, well fuck you, so we're gonna play this
Speaker 7: like if your complaint is that like, hey, these things
Speaker 7: have been favored to one ethnic group or this or that,
Speaker 7: it's not like it's not like, well, then i'll fucking
Speaker 7: i'll chimp out like I'll, you know, i'll you know,
Speaker 7: say well, it's gotta be a white guy or it's
Speaker 7: got like about you just like actually have some sort
Speaker 7: of principle other than that's a white guy and the you.
Speaker 2: Know, don't fall into the trap or the preordained outcome
Speaker 2: of stoking racial tension. That's another legitimate reality here. And
Speaker 2: to even kind of present this in a disingenuous way,
Speaker 2: as the mockingbird media always incessantly does, Uh, it's so
Speaker 2: predictable at this point. Uh, you know, you just don't
Speaker 2: fall into that over emotional triggering that they're attempting to
Speaker 2: play upon you. And and yeah, I get it. It
Speaker 2: is a ah an injustice and a legitimate issue in
Speaker 2: terms of a double standard effectively taking place. But uh,
Speaker 2: to then kind of react in terms of falling into
Speaker 2: the emotional outrage of Okay, then it's essentially, uh we
Speaker 2: we should basically become more just in terms of prioritizing
Speaker 2: race is like just a single issue worth I don't know,
Speaker 2: spending any time of I don't know. Just to me personally,
Speaker 2: it feels like a red herring for that very purpose.
Speaker 2: And if we are to actually effectively push back in
Speaker 2: terms of what they're attempting to, uh, you know, achieve
Speaker 2: as far as these sy ops are concerned, then I
Speaker 2: don't take this at face value. I don't believe this
Speaker 2: guy was acting authentically or in an organic way. But
Speaker 2: it's it's hard for me at this point. I'm a
Speaker 2: little jaded, I'll be honest. But whenever you get additional
Speaker 2: layers to the story where basically the black, the African
Speaker 2: American that he had the altercation with essentially was an
Speaker 2: army veteran, right, and I personally am am uh you
Speaker 2: know that that that just uh caught my attention. Let's
Speaker 2: just put it that way. But then Chud the Builder
Speaker 2: comes out and basically breaks his silence after he gets
Speaker 2: arrested in Nashville, and there's a report that surfaces that
Speaker 2: suggests that essentially Chud the builder had a strange interaction
Speaker 2: right where his phones were seized with with federal agents. Right,
Speaker 2: so this is May tenth. Okay, Uh. Dalton addressed that,
Speaker 2: and again his name is what's his name? Damn it Dalton? Yeah,
Speaker 2: And so anyway, the point being is that he addresses
Speaker 2: his his followers on X is essentially what happened, right,
Speaker 2: He posts that he had no way of contacting anyone
Speaker 2: because his phones had been confiscated as quote, evidence of
Speaker 2: the crime. And essentially what had happened is that he
Speaker 2: skipped out on a check right at a restaurant. And
Speaker 2: uh and basically he claimed personally that he was forced
Speaker 2: to leave and asked to lee. Even so, he refused
Speaker 2: to pay his bill after.
Speaker 7: This argument with the yeah that's why, Yeah, let's dispute
Speaker 7: took place.
Speaker 5: And so.
Speaker 2: He was interviewed by the FBI and a domestic terrorist
Speaker 2: detective and this was was legitimately made public and he
Speaker 2: said phone seized as evidence of the crime, no way
Speaker 2: of contacting anyone. Just got back to my Airbnb after
Speaker 2: thirteen hours in custody for leaving a restaurant when I
Speaker 2: was asked to Bob's chop house. FBI and domestic terrorist
Speaker 2: detective interviewed me for about two hours before they took
Speaker 2: me for booking. Asked if I was asking if I
Speaker 2: was part of some organization. No, sir, I'm just a
Speaker 2: dude with a camera, he says. So guaranteed you cause
Speaker 2: the scene and disturb the public piece. What you do
Speaker 2: doesn't bother me is essentially what people are reacting, you know,
Speaker 2: at the time, in terms of like all of these
Speaker 2: users on x like you have essentially black Twitter going off, right.
Speaker 2: I thought this was hilarious. There was one, there was one.
Speaker 2: I won't go into the tweets because they're honestly ridiculous,
Speaker 2: but there some of them are hilarious. Race war tweets
Speaker 2: are the best exactly over emotional reaction to this story.
Speaker 2: And so I legitimately do think there's something to the
Speaker 2: point of like having this this strange interrogation process with
Speaker 2: federal agents days before you would have the shootout outside
Speaker 2: of a courthouse is somewhat interesting to me, as well
Speaker 2: as the fact that you have essentially and this this
Speaker 2: who is it Lily Venus I believe is the individual
Speaker 2: who's basically a dude that mutilated right, Well, it's a
Speaker 2: trans content creator right that Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what is the deal with that?
Speaker 9: That?
Speaker 7: Like it sounded like they said they had a I
Speaker 7: was confused. I didn't get far enough into that one.
Speaker 7: But essentially that that person is a chick who likes
Speaker 7: to top dudes essentially is what I guess the terminology there.
Speaker 7: He likes the peg dudes. I don't know if it's
Speaker 7: a real wiener or because he said something about having
Speaker 7: both genitals, so it's confused if it's just like a
Speaker 7: thrap on thing, or maybe she's some sort of hermaphrodite
Speaker 7: because you look pretty curly, so it was like, really
Speaker 7: you got a.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a dude that mutilated his penis
Speaker 2: right into essentially, uh, but maybe not, because it seemed
Speaker 2: like it potentially was just a trans that dressed as
Speaker 2: a woman but was raw dogging Dalton eitherly, ye should
Speaker 2: the building No, this is aged personally, so Dalton eitherly
Speaker 2: obviously this woman uh Lily, Uh, what's her name. It's
Speaker 2: a it's a ridiculous name, Lily Venus and uh, basically
Speaker 2: they identify her as a black trans woman. But obviously
Speaker 2: this this is a dude, and they came out speaking
Speaker 2: publicly about about Dalton Eatherly in this past relationship they
Speaker 2: had basically and uh, well, there are photographs, by the
Speaker 2: way of what looks to be a young Dalton easily
Speaker 2: dressed up as a fairy, which is very interesting, like
Speaker 2: a pixie fairy. But anyway, she describes herself in this
Speaker 2: weird video as a professional pegger, and she said she
Speaker 2: has openly discussed this work, you know, for years, right,
Speaker 2: And so basically she goes into how most so this
Speaker 2: is already claimed, you know, and framed in this kind
Speaker 2: of racial dynamic. It's strange because she says, most of
Speaker 2: my clientele is white men. We sign nda agreements. I
Speaker 2: talk about me pegging all the time, but I never
Speaker 2: tell you names because discretion is key. So yeah, then
Speaker 2: there are all these allegations that basically go public just
Speaker 2: after this event, and she's making the claims that essentially
Speaker 2: she had full intimate sexual relationship with Chud around twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: including pegging, threesomes and smoking weed was mentioned. She calls
Speaker 2: herself professional pegger for white male clients, and so it
Speaker 2: just to me, yeah, it could be false allegations made
Speaker 2: as a reaction to kind of attach yourself to something
Speaker 2: that is gaining traction in the algorithm. Let's just say,
Speaker 2: but it's hard to imagine that that, right, this is
Speaker 2: entirely baseless in terms of the type of personality where
Speaker 2: we're speaking on here, Chud the builder strikes me as
Speaker 2: a person who would legitimately enjoy being pegged and then
Speaker 2: probably have this overwhelming kind of reactionary personality that they
Speaker 2: would essentially attempt to present to the public. Now, it
Speaker 2: would be great to imagine that this is entirely kind
Speaker 2: of manufactured by and I don't know, in Langley, some
Speaker 2: writer's room where they're coming up with this new influencer
Speaker 2: act that they hoped to stage a dystopian pretext with.
Speaker 2: But it does it just in terms of taking this seriously,
Speaker 2: it's possible I would like to look more into this
Speaker 2: person's background. I'm not entirely sure what Dalton eitherly. I've
Speaker 2: read a little bit about his early life, but I
Speaker 2: want to see, like there's only.
Speaker 7: Adult Eitherly, getting ready for this role was like Leo
Speaker 7: getting ready for Dajango.
Speaker 2: Exactly what it was. Oh my god, it's again. I
Speaker 2: feel like we're we're past the point of no return
Speaker 2: in a way. And we've entered this kind of clown
Speaker 2: pilled realm. As we've mentioned before, that that seems like
Speaker 2: the concept of allowable opinion is now like who's actually
Speaker 2: shocked by anything at this point, you know, And the
Speaker 2: fact that I think there's an overwhelming statistic for like
Speaker 2: over half I think fifty four percent to some extent,
Speaker 2: it was the statistical data set in terms of people
Speaker 2: willing to question the reality of the prior Trump assassination attempts,
Speaker 2: and I just thought, like, wow, as much as they
Speaker 2: are effectively achieving their goal of mush of sort of
Speaker 2: moving and pushing that dystopian pendulum forward, there's a natural
Speaker 2: organic reaction to this that I only hope we can
Speaker 2: kind of potentially, I don't know, just take advantage of
Speaker 2: while the opportunity is here. And in terms of people
Speaker 2: becoming more and more willing to objectively consider open minded,
Speaker 2: you know, in a very open minded way, these alternative
Speaker 2: theories and these legitimate because in reality, if you're not
Speaker 2: questioning everything at this point, if you do not have
Speaker 2: your head on that proverbial swivel, then you're not paying attention,
Speaker 2: you know, because again it's like we have so many
Speaker 2: prior examples where this effectively has has been the case
Speaker 2: right where you have that hidden hand of the intelligen
Speaker 2: and sapparatus and their influence.
Speaker 7: But you're talking before the show about the Garland shooting,
Speaker 7: how that was the one where you know the doodle
Speaker 7: uh doodle mohammed one or whatever, and uh, I mean hell,
Speaker 7: they ended up finding out that that was basically antagonized
Speaker 7: by feds. Uh they were, I believe, like online and
Speaker 7: uh they were somehow amping it up. And funny I
Speaker 7: was reading I had ken on this morning on the
Speaker 7: Morning Dump, and uh, one of we found a transcription
Speaker 7: in there with one of the like that, well, I
Speaker 7: guess one of the FEDS that kind of antagonized this
Speaker 7: whole thing. He was talking about how when he was
Speaker 7: like kind of trolling the online community, he was finding
Speaker 7: other FEDS, So like this is this is the waters
Speaker 7: we waited and it's pretty becomes pretty obvious. I mean, hell,
Speaker 7: if with the Thomas Crooks, you're talking with a shooting,
Speaker 7: I mean when you get into his online footprint, it's
Speaker 7: he typically repeated he didn't have one. That's not true.
Speaker 7: He didn't have much of one, but he did ud
Speaker 7: have a few weird little connections. For example, the uh
Speaker 7: was it the Willie Tepez connection, which was this one
Speaker 7: weird character that he was interacting with that was the
Speaker 7: most blatant fed online character you probably could ever imagine.
Speaker 7: He was essentially hanging out with these like extremists, these
Speaker 7: accelerationist groups and these right wing Nazi groups. Supposedly obviously
Speaker 7: it's just some name online, you know, essentially saying the
Speaker 7: most overt you know, essentially saying politicians need to be
Speaker 7: you know, offt and all sorts of things. Then this
Speaker 7: is somebody interacting with Thomas Crooks. And of course, man,
Speaker 7: here we are. He's a lone, lone wolf gunman out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that certainly doesn't kind of overlap with other
Speaker 2: examples like the Luigi Mangioni, which is hard to not
Speaker 2: consider as potential modern Manchurian candidate, you know, just a
Speaker 2: it's a it's a real consideration, is my opinion. And
Speaker 2: then Tyler Robinson, I mean, these people are barely getting
Speaker 2: any coverage. Robin Westman, right, remember that transhooter, the mini
Speaker 2: Apolis mass shooting, who had ties to a congressman as
Speaker 2: a grandfather I believe, or an uncle one of the
Speaker 2: two who was in Kentucky actually pushing pushing legislation on
Speaker 2: behalf of the trans movement, right for the lgbt Q
Speaker 2: plus community. And and the fact that you have uh,
Speaker 2: basically this kind of allegedly you know, he's a Republican congressman, right,
Speaker 2: and and family of Robin Westman, who's who's a trans right, Uh,
Speaker 2: a dude in Minneapolis that committed that shooting. It's just
Speaker 2: a little too difficult and and uh, to to separate
Speaker 2: those things. We and uh, you know, beyond that, right,
Speaker 2: we have these new this new case of these two
Speaker 2: teenagers responsible for the San Diego mosque shooting, and of
Speaker 2: course they're inspired by all the usual suspects and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, sharing the typical hallmarks and signatures of like
Speaker 2: seven six four and one A and even including uh
Speaker 2: online radicalization pipeline as a backstory that that was. I mean,
Speaker 2: how can we not just assume at this point that
Speaker 2: we just in terms of understanding the origin story of
Speaker 2: O nine A and and uh and what led to
Speaker 2: seven sixty four and these these radicalization pipelines online in
Speaker 2: the discord chats and things of that nature. It's entirely
Speaker 2: rigged and propped up by the FEDS and and uh
Speaker 2: reliably exploited and what I view as as their modern
Speaker 2: mentoring candidate programs. And I think, uh, before I forget
Speaker 2: the way that Sam kind of said it to me,
Speaker 2: it made sense in terms of like I can understand
Speaker 2: almost like a pop culture revelation of the method reference
Speaker 2: points to subconsciously reinforcing this this heightened priority in terms
Speaker 2: of you know, hate speech and the racial tension, and
Speaker 2: and the fact he mentioned uh basically just after everyone
Speaker 2: is primed and uh to be up in arms and
Speaker 2: over emotional and reacting to what's misrepresented as basically hate
Speaker 2: speech right in terms of the Kevin Hart roast right
Speaker 2: on Netflix. And you get green light go activation in
Speaker 2: terms of Chud the builder in that strange case. And
Speaker 2: you also get the CIA's latest batch of basically teenage
Speaker 2: trans manchurians who get the green light to perform their
Speaker 2: role in the latest syops. So I just think that
Speaker 2: it's hard not to start looking at reality in this way. Now.
Speaker 2: I'm always I'm not falling firmly and confidently into a
Speaker 2: conclusion of any kind. I'm just legitimately considering this as
Speaker 2: the alternative version of what potentially took place, because it
Speaker 2: makes more sense to me. And that's the main thing.
Speaker 2: It's not about influencing anyone else to view the vast
Speaker 2: majority of these high impact events as a product of
Speaker 2: Michael Lochino's mind wore and the psychology you have victory.
Speaker 2: But it's also hard not to consider that that is
Speaker 2: definitely a major part factoring into uh, how these how
Speaker 2: these opportunistic windows are fully and consistently exploited and weaponized
Speaker 2: against us. And so yeah, sure fall into the trap
Speaker 2: and allow them to manufacture your consent into pushing back
Speaker 2: in the worst possible way, because now you want to
Speaker 2: die on the hill of Chud the Builder. That doesn't
Speaker 2: mean you don't defend free speech, you know. That doesn't
Speaker 2: mean you don't defend uh you know, the uh, the
Speaker 2: obvious double standard. But but it definitely it should be
Speaker 2: cause for you to remain very very much skeptical of
Speaker 2: of what you think you know. So anyway, and and
Speaker 2: before we get into the details of those shootings, if
Speaker 2: you want, we might as well mention the fact that
Speaker 2: obviously you have Thomas Massey being dethroned and unseated, right,
Speaker 2: uh officially defeated by by the APEC funded candidate, Which
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts just in terms of, obviously you
Speaker 2: already know how I'm skeptical of Thomas just in terms
Speaker 2: of I feel like so much of this is always
Speaker 2: political theater. I know he's one of uh, you know,
Speaker 2: the the best congressman we have, and and we we
Speaker 2: should at the very least appreciate something that is apart
Speaker 2: from the establishment line, I guess, and and uh is
Speaker 2: is legitimately offering uhh, I don't know an uh an
Speaker 2: investigative and evidentiary window into into so much of this
Speaker 2: in a in a very kind of established way that's
Speaker 2: credible because of his role in government. But it feels
Speaker 2: like the demo let and and all of these strange
Speaker 2: connections to his background, M I T and things of
Speaker 2: that nature. It's just a difficult thing for me too, obviously,
Speaker 2: uh you know, just to create a distinction and distinguish
Speaker 2: between who is controlled opposition and who is not right.
Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean he can't be valuable. So anyway, sorry,
Speaker 2: I know, I'm I'm always suspicious.
Speaker 7: I mean, i've I I don't know the way the
Speaker 7: massy has moved though I haven't really seen anything too evident,
Speaker 7: so he may just be a legit guy. I don't
Speaker 7: really know what to make currently of this loss. I mean, now,
Speaker 7: when you have the people's, the massies of the world,
Speaker 7: the Ron Paul's, I know, a lot of people point
Speaker 7: to them. He's like these shining beacons of like, oh,
Speaker 7: they're beliefs. But on a certain flip side, I almost
Speaker 7: think it's also a little bit kind of I don't
Speaker 7: necessarily want to say they're doing anything wrong per se,
Speaker 7: but I think to some degree it gives people this
Speaker 7: idea of working within this system of and and also
Speaker 7: it's like people like, you know, when I say things like, oh,
Speaker 7: you shouldn't be in there's no point really being engaged
Speaker 7: politically or whatever, you know, people would be like, well,
Speaker 7: what about Ron Paul? What about Thomas Massey? And it's like, well,
Speaker 7: I mean you literally could only come up with like
Speaker 7: two maybe you could squeeze Ran Paul in there, like
Speaker 7: that's kind of the fucking point. And now if you
Speaker 7: stretch that out over the long arc of history, then
Speaker 7: you're like, and if you look at it as like
Speaker 7: working within the whole electoral system or you know, and
Speaker 7: what you get out of it and what you could
Speaker 7: possibly hope to get, and you're like, you maybe could
Speaker 7: get it, like if you were playing the odds, that's
Speaker 7: really shitty fucking odds. So it's like, yeah, maybe you
Speaker 7: could luck up and get Iron Paul. But even then, though,
Speaker 7: even then, what even does Iran Paul do other than
Speaker 7: being some sort of like beacon through their behavior and
Speaker 7: kind of like bringing you know, people to that. But
Speaker 7: so far is their influence on electoral politics? It might
Speaker 7: even I mean, there may be. I think there's somewhat
Speaker 7: even an argument to be had that maybe it's like
Speaker 7: kind of almost like a negative.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 7: I guess to some degree, it's good that you know,
Speaker 7: there's people being pulled away from the establishment by folks
Speaker 7: like this, and so maybe they can only be reached there.
Speaker 7: But I don't know. I vivil Gora basically is what
Speaker 7: I say, stop engaging in the in the in the
Speaker 7: the party archy. It's it's fake and gay, and so
Speaker 7: I don't know. But on the flip side, I know
Speaker 7: the establishment wasted a shipload their money to uh to
Speaker 7: kick him out, so and I don't know, maybe he'll
Speaker 7: be he'll be interesting to see how he works on
Speaker 7: the outside. Marjorie Taylor Green's been a pretty interesting force
Speaker 7: in the outside these days. So I don't know, I'm
Speaker 7: I'm mixed, I'm of mixed thoughts. It's still pretty early
Speaker 7: so I By the way, I actually have Matt Wolfson,
Speaker 7: who I've been doing like a weekly series with these days.
Speaker 7: He'll be coming on the show tomorrow and we'll be
Speaker 7: talking about the whole massive stuff because he wrote a
Speaker 7: series and pieces there, so we'll be going deeper into
Speaker 7: all that.
Speaker 2: So, man, all I know is that somebody did actually
Speaker 2: kind of blow up my my naive bubble in a way,
Speaker 2: and it disclosed to me that Rom Paul was a
Speaker 2: Freemason at one point. And then you know, I haven't
Speaker 2: yet found legitimate confirmation of this, but but I can.
Speaker 2: I can believe a world where that is potentially a reality.
Speaker 2: I mean, I legitimately just through court ordered AA in
Speaker 2: my early days, right, I had to go through that
Speaker 2: at one point, And I remember I went to an
Speaker 2: AA meeting at a church, right, and essentially one of
Speaker 2: the leading members of that group was a freemason, right,
Speaker 2: But he was just like an old boy like type
Speaker 2: of type of guy.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 2: It was kind of interesting and of course, this lower level.
Speaker 2: You're not considering this as like a thirty third degree
Speaker 2: level of freemason who has the is a vanguard of
Speaker 2: the hidden knowledge type of thing. But I legitimately was
Speaker 2: kind of it was I was very naive and in
Speaker 2: I was young at the time, so I just didn't
Speaker 2: really have a preconceived idea of what exactly freemasonry even was.
Speaker 2: Honestly when whenever this was, I was introduced to this person,
Speaker 2: but he wore a ring all the time, and I
Speaker 2: recognized that in the group at one point and I
Speaker 2: asked somebody and they basically told me and and man,
Speaker 2: he was a really nice guy obviously, and but at
Speaker 2: the same time, I wish I could have asked him,
Speaker 2: you know, more questions, just to kind of gain some
Speaker 2: some type of knowledge and insight and perspective on what
Speaker 2: the lower levels of like local freemasons even even kind
Speaker 2: of engage in practicing. And and it really did like
Speaker 2: I remember asking at one point, and it was basically
Speaker 2: just like, uh, you know, drinking, Like essentially what's it
Speaker 2: called when the VFW basically right is essentially like you know,
Speaker 2: going to in my.
Speaker 7: What are you trying to say?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm just saying, like what he was
Speaker 2: kind of describing it as was basically just like a
Speaker 2: casual social group of like like you said exactly VFW,
Speaker 2: like old boys just getting together and basically drinking and
Speaker 2: and yeah, talking about the old time sort of thing.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think there's more to it than that, obviously.
Speaker 2: But the point being is that if you're in government
Speaker 2: and legitimately at that sort of prominent level in society,
Speaker 2: and you were affiliated with Freemasonry in the past, then
Speaker 2: I would imagine you held far more prominence in terms
Speaker 2: of your level in the hierarchy of the lodge or
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. I don't know, so who knows.
Speaker 2: And I did see someone mention that in the chat
Speaker 2: just a moment ago, so it sparked that memory of
Speaker 2: someone basically dming me and mentioning the fact that they
Speaker 2: had traced back connection to Ron Paul effectively being a
Speaker 2: member of a lodge. And so again I'll have to
Speaker 2: confirm this on my own, so you know, take it
Speaker 2: for what it is. But the point being is that
Speaker 2: no more heroes, you know, and basically that doesn't mean
Speaker 2: you can't appreciate the beautiful, wonderful things that Ron Paul
Speaker 2: as effectively done in terms of his political career and
Speaker 2: things of that nature, and just in terms of the
Speaker 2: influence ideologically. Uh, he influenced me in some of the
Speaker 2: I don't know in in into a more ethical direction
Speaker 2: and and uh to to adopt a more kind of
Speaker 2: uh it definitely kind of just allowed me to pursue
Speaker 2: the path of, let's just say, firmly understanding my own
Speaker 2: ethical boundaries, in my own kind of moral foundation of
Speaker 2: what I principally tried to, uh just represent in my
Speaker 2: own life. And so there's there's a beautiful uh, you know,
Speaker 2: appreciation and value I will always associate to Rom Paul.
Speaker 7: But I think at the lower level, I think at
Speaker 7: the lower level of masonry from my inner saying, because
Speaker 7: I've known I think a handful a small handful of people,
Speaker 7: and I've known people who have been like so and so.
Speaker 7: Like I think my step granddad was supposedly a Mason
Speaker 7: when he was younger. My stepdad said he like found
Speaker 7: weird books that like he wasn't able to understand the
Speaker 7: words in them, and shit like that. But I think
Speaker 7: at the lower level, it's probably kind of something along
Speaker 7: the lines of like or not loyal, and especially like
Speaker 7: of antiquity, like smaller towns and stuff. I think a
Speaker 7: lot of it's kind of like networking, which in a
Speaker 7: certain way that makes it seem innocuous. But then when
Speaker 7: you do kind of extrapolate that to a higher level
Speaker 7: and you have these bunch of people that are focused
Speaker 7: on networking and then you loft above with your machinations,
Speaker 7: I don't know, it can make for an interesting an
Speaker 7: interesting mix because it's like you have these unsuspecting worker
Speaker 7: bees that are already doing all the networking for you,
Speaker 7: kind of making those connections to all the powerful people,
Speaker 7: because it is like that's how you as somebody who's
Speaker 7: just some lunk working at the say you have your
Speaker 7: eye on being a manager over at the plant or whatever,
Speaker 7: and you're like, this is how you kind of bump
Speaker 7: elbows and nud shoulders with certain certain people of import
Speaker 7: in the local reas a loge, we go yeah. So,
Speaker 7: so I can slowly see at the lower level why
Speaker 7: like it could be appealing, and it does kind of
Speaker 7: mask itself, and like even the wording freemasonry, essentially this
Speaker 7: like it's honestly kind of it's kind of appealing to
Speaker 7: the spirit of the middle class man, the uh, the
Speaker 7: you know, the the worker, the uh, you know, somebody
Speaker 7: who has some sort of trade of some sort, like
Speaker 7: it kind of appeals to those sentiments, uh, while not
Speaker 7: really actually kind of being that, but it sort of
Speaker 7: does appeal to this. So it gives these people these
Speaker 7: idea of these being lofty artisans of the community or whatever.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, and you know, it's it's uh, it's no
Speaker 2: evidence of anything of of just substance obviously. But but
Speaker 2: at the same time, I had it's just always problematic
Speaker 2: if you're affiliated, because it in a real way suggests
Speaker 2: loyalty to a secret, fraternal organization of powerful influence, as
Speaker 2: we've said in the past. So that's my only concern,
Speaker 2: and and I hope to God that none of that
Speaker 2: applies in a sort of sinister way to the personalities
Speaker 2: that we've just suggested.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 2: But at the same point, who was Thomas Massey's rival,
Speaker 2: that you know, opponent, let's just say, who held no
Speaker 2: debate right publicly basically was just a ghost. I mean,
Speaker 2: most people only know him because of Thomas Massey attempting
Speaker 2: to expose the fact that.
Speaker 7: Book would be more accurate.
Speaker 2: Often yeah, basically. And man, the CIA agents abound in
Speaker 2: terms of being elected at the state level. It's just
Speaker 2: happening far too often. Who was that CIA agent who
Speaker 2: was like a long standing had a very long history
Speaker 2: with the agency that I think was won the governorship
Speaker 2: in Virginia, of course, but the fact that it was
Speaker 2: kind of attempted to keep they attempted to keep it hidden,
Speaker 2: you know, and not disclose that fact to the public
Speaker 2: for as long as possible, and then just before the
Speaker 2: election took place, and you know, it basically went public.
Speaker 2: But she still achieved her election and victory. And but
Speaker 2: Thomas Massy's opponent, ed Gallerin or how do you pronounce
Speaker 2: his last name, do you know? Or l Rhyn I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: something like that. But you saw that he wants to
Speaker 2: bring back the military draft for national security reasons, right,
Speaker 2: and complains that the current system is too slow when
Speaker 2: it comes to sending large numbers of young Americans off
Speaker 2: to a potential world war. So again, if you consider
Speaker 2: the fact that this is the messaging happening, and I
Speaker 2: think it was pallunteer. They just came out recently, right
Speaker 2: and publicly advocated for the reinstatement of the mandatory national
Speaker 2: service in the US. They described it in their manifesto
Speaker 2: as universal duty that should replace the current all volunteer
Speaker 2: military model. So it was in twenty I think outlined
Speaker 2: this position specifically in a twenty two point manifesto that
Speaker 2: was shared by the company in April. So we went
Speaker 2: through some of the manifesto. But yeah, the fact that
Speaker 2: they're consistently arguing that this needs to be reinstated essentially,
Speaker 2: and that you know, it's not only Palaenteer, there are
Speaker 2: other major tech companies that are kind of attempting to
Speaker 2: and but I think it was Palenteer that just were
Speaker 2: awarded essentially control of the American domestic food supply at
Speaker 2: this point, right, And so just understanding there the model
Speaker 2: of controlling the supply chain.
Speaker 7: Especially globally from a dialectic perspective, And we were kind
Speaker 7: of talking about this a moment ago, the idea of
Speaker 7: some of even our saviors or not saviors. I guess
Speaker 7: maybe that's not really putting together, are paragons of virtue
Speaker 7: perhaps being controlled up as well. But on the with
Speaker 7: this draft conversation, I find it interesting that it's this
Speaker 7: has kind of been a murmur of a kind of
Speaker 7: like you know, so far as seek seeking a seeping
Speaker 7: into the zeitgeist with this draft conversation for a little while, Uh,
Speaker 7: there was this recent hubbub i freak exactly news. Maybe
Speaker 7: it was months maybe a little bit more. I'd say,
Speaker 7: like give or take around six months ago or so,
Speaker 7: if I recall correctly. This they began pushing for this
Speaker 7: idea of automatic registration. So essentially no longer as as
Speaker 7: men out here in the world, apparently when we turn
Speaker 7: eighteen we have to register for the draft.
Speaker 3: We all do. I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't know if people don't. I mean, I don't
Speaker 7: really know. I think there's a lot of things you
Speaker 7: end up having to do, whether it's taxes or whatever
Speaker 7: where I think you they may just get you there,
Speaker 7: but like gotcha bitch, and now you got to do it.
Speaker 7: It's like I think, like a quick couple click thing online,
Speaker 7: but they've changed it to where now it's going to be,
Speaker 7: you know, like instead of being forced to do it
Speaker 7: by making you do it, you're gonna be forced to
Speaker 7: do it and you don't have to get made to
Speaker 7: do it, if that makes sense. They're gonna scrape in
Speaker 7: information offline and you'd be like, oh, they're able to
Speaker 7: find out, Oh, hey here's so and so he's however
Speaker 7: they go about doing it, I'm sure they'll have all
Speaker 7: sorts of AI nightmare. But I find it interesting that
Speaker 7: this they've just pushed through a you know, kind of
Speaker 7: this dialectic. From that dialectic perspective of like as above
Speaker 7: so below, you know, kind of the flip side of it.
Speaker 7: Now this is you know this with the gallery and
Speaker 7: the gallery and thing we also have they're currently pushing
Speaker 7: forth another iteration. I think this happens like every year.
Speaker 7: I think Rand Paul's sponsoring it. Ron Wyden, I think
Speaker 7: a Democrat, and there's another Republican that are sponsoring this
Speaker 7: bill to essentially repeal the draft, which obviously that'd be
Speaker 7: great if we didn't have the draft. I support that,
Speaker 7: But I'm just saying, from a dialectic perspective, if they're
Speaker 7: trying to kind of create the conditions for the conversation
Speaker 7: bring this back up kind of is it's coming from
Speaker 7: both sides. So the idea there too, And I also
Speaker 7: I do want to make I don't I understand it
Speaker 7: is worse for there to be this automatic like opt
Speaker 7: in like there's in your shit. I mean, it's obviously freaky,
Speaker 7: but in a certain sense, it's also like I find
Speaker 7: it weird that this has become a kind of a
Speaker 7: conversation topic. I know, maybe I'm not being libertarian enough
Speaker 7: or something. I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't
Speaker 7: want that to happen, But it's like, as I've kind
Speaker 7: of pointed, it's you're already required to if you're an
Speaker 7: if you're you know, measuring of age male to do it.
Speaker 7: So it's like the differences they're going to do it
Speaker 7: for you. So like I'm not saying I prefer that
Speaker 7: by any means that's worse, but like you're being forced
Speaker 7: either way. So this is just kind of like almost
Speaker 7: it feels contrived to some degree that this is being
Speaker 7: brought to the four as a conversation piece.
Speaker 2: I definitely think that there is hyperactive language in terms
Speaker 2: of the propaganda around this specific subject, in terms of
Speaker 2: the reinstating of a military draft, and I do think
Speaker 2: that it is a dystopian goal that they hope to achieve, right,
Speaker 2: And so just as I said before, it's it's the
Speaker 2: pendulum being pushed further in the wrong, and so at
Speaker 2: the very least, it's just another kind of uh step
Speaker 2: in that uh in that framework and concept. But even suggesting,
Speaker 2: you know, let alone seriously considering reinstating the military draft
Speaker 2: is nothing less than authoritarianism, you know, I mean, honestly
Speaker 2: and and seductive ideological branding be damned is the way
Speaker 2: that I look at it.
Speaker 7: And the literal slavery like I know, if like upset
Speaker 7: when you're like, oh, when you you equate certain things
Speaker 7: like how dare you? But it's literal slavery. It's honestly,
Speaker 7: debatably worse than slavery. I guess it depends on what
Speaker 7: uh what uh you know, on what grounds you're saying
Speaker 7: worse or better is?
Speaker 2: You know, I guess it depends on considering the moral
Speaker 2: consequences of of of what is to essentially come ultimately
Speaker 2: out of conscription into the military. If we're I don't know,
Speaker 2: staging a global military conflict in the very current moment,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what we're witnessing, is the region team
Speaker 2: change playbook and action.
Speaker 7: Yet again, well, the powers that be trying to make war,
Speaker 7: you know, essentially buy into the state, you know, war
Speaker 7: against all country verse country. It becomes this you know,
Speaker 7: war becomes you know, this this country wide thing. It's
Speaker 7: in everyone's heart, like you you know, you are becoming synonymous,
Speaker 7: Like I know. I had Matt Wolfson the other day.
Speaker 7: We're talking about like dehumanization of the Palestinians, and we
Speaker 7: were talking about a little bit about like how Israel operates,
Speaker 7: and they have a mandatory like a civil service, y'all,
Speaker 7: everyone has to do a couple of years. But in
Speaker 7: a certain sort of sense that gives you a little
Speaker 7: bit of a moral buy in, Like I'm not saying
Speaker 7: something like October seventh was justified, but a lot of
Speaker 7: people don't look at that in terms of like this
Speaker 7: is a humongous population of people that I think even
Speaker 7: then I think over there a lot of they are
Speaker 7: like in reserves after that, and that just means they
Speaker 7: can get pulled back, so they're basically getting drafted. So
Speaker 7: they're basically like kind of warrior citizens for the most
Speaker 7: part if you're an of age male in that region.
Speaker 7: So it's like obviously any women children that aren't involved, like,
Speaker 7: but these are these are essentially a nation of almost
Speaker 7: to some degree at least the males fighting age males
Speaker 7: sort of combatants mostly these people have already joined there,
Speaker 7: so it's like it complicates things at least on a
Speaker 7: on that level. So I'm not obviously I'm not necessarily
Speaker 7: trying to make a case for why, but my point
Speaker 7: being is if we drive America to being some sort
Speaker 7: of country like this where it's normalized, this idea of
Speaker 7: we all have to give two, three, four years of
Speaker 7: service or and we're all you know, reserve members of
Speaker 7: whatever our military is at any given time that we
Speaker 7: could get you know, kind of just normalized coming in like,
Speaker 7: that's a I'm not cool with that. That's essentially making us,
Speaker 7: you know, merging us with a state in some sucks
Speaker 7: that are way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's full conscription, you know. And and yeah, it's
Speaker 2: another legitimate measure in terms of that totalitarian tiptoe. So
Speaker 2: it's a perversion of of h acceptable reality. And you know,
Speaker 2: in terms of what the structure of government and their
Speaker 2: role is is ethically, you know, just what is ethically
Speaker 2: acceptable in terms of the general public being willing to
Speaker 2: obviously allow right And and this is where the manufacturing
Speaker 2: of consent is so primary as far as the achievable outcome,
Speaker 2: and and the reason why I think it's it's at
Speaker 2: the very least it's up to us and and people
Speaker 2: who are a part of this this strange uh, you know,
Speaker 2: whatever the hell we're doing trying to push back on
Speaker 2: on these Uh. These clearly just problematic official narratives that
Speaker 2: have gaping holes that should cause everyone to essentially you know,
Speaker 2: in terms of the red flag the red flags in
Speaker 2: your mind's eye. Yeah, it's just, uh, it's overly concerning
Speaker 2: at this point. So I don't know, figure were.
Speaker 7: Gaping holes like you had the build there and other
Speaker 7: and other such a another such possible control the actors
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Speaker 3: How are you guys doing good?
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of hard to express the displeasure
Speaker 3: that I feel currently with the whole Massy thing. I
Speaker 3: think we all, I think we all saw it coming.
Speaker 3: I think we knew what was going to happen. I mean,
Speaker 3: elections are won and lost, you know in the Coppers,
Speaker 3: and it's just one of those things where it points
Speaker 3: more towards the accelerationism that I talk about from time
Speaker 3: to time. And you know, if you look at the
Speaker 3: platform that you know he was proposing, you know, pretty
Speaker 3: similar to JFK. And it's not something that is going
Speaker 3: to be compatible with the uniparty system that we have
Speaker 3: in our country. And I really don't like dwelling on
Speaker 3: national level politics, you know, like I'm you know, really
Speaker 3: engaged in state level and libertarian party stuff. I mean,
Speaker 3: I know you're not as libertarian as you used to
Speaker 3: be as but I know you understand all the content. Ups.
Speaker 11: No, I'm more than I used to be. Actually, I'm
Speaker 11: just not gay about it. Yeah you wear shoes, You
Speaker 11: wear shoes now, yeah, yeah. So uh, it just seems
Speaker 11: like we're moving closer and closer to this dystopian future
Speaker 11: where you know, everybody's going to be digitized, you know,
Speaker 11: the infrastructures going up in place, and the predictive programming
Speaker 11: is already out there. And you know, I've talked about
Speaker 11: that movie Mercy where they have an AI judge.
Speaker 3: And that they frame a guy for murder and the
Speaker 3: AI judge you know, gives them an hour to you know,
Speaker 3: prove his innocence and then they remade Stephen Kings The
Speaker 3: Running Man. I'm not sure what streaming services on, but
Speaker 3: it's more dystopian predictive programming, and we really need to
Speaker 3: spend a lot of time focusing on ourselves, our individual skills,
Speaker 3: and our community. You know, like a lot of people
Speaker 3: just they don't even see or talk to their neighbors.
Speaker 3: You know, they just see them when they pull in
Speaker 3: their garage or whatever. And our survival is going to
Speaker 3: be finding like minded people and creating a community where
Speaker 3: we have prepary to disassociate with the dystopian state that is,
Speaker 3: you know, taking shape. As of right now. The only
Speaker 3: one big flaw that I see in it is like
Speaker 3: when I look out my door, you know, like the
Speaker 3: transformer on my power pole is probably thirty five years old.
Speaker 3: You know, like just the infrastructure from a power standpoint
Speaker 3: is just not there. And I think that's the biggest
Speaker 3: gap in their system. But growing your own food, training
Speaker 3: with your own firearms, and you know, learning how to
Speaker 3: trade skills, finding people you can trust, building a community
Speaker 3: that is decentralized. There's just so many ways around the
Speaker 3: surveillance state. And you know, we lost a champion at
Speaker 3: the national level, but that's the national level. But there's
Speaker 3: still stuff you can do to organize at your local,
Speaker 3: state and county level that can be effective. So and
Speaker 3: we still have the three and a half percent principle.
Speaker 3: You know, if three and a half percent of our
Speaker 3: population gets radicalized, you know we have change. So that's
Speaker 3: kind of where I'm at with that. Yeah, then think
Speaker 3: my black pills is wearing off a little bit. I
Speaker 3: was kind of fired up just earlier.
Speaker 7: But there might be a flip side to it, almost
Speaker 7: like a white pill.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 7: A lot of people don't think about it when they're
Speaker 7: in it, But I mean, if you look at America first, MAGA,
Speaker 7: I mean, it's kind of become two different things, but
Speaker 7: at one point they're kind of were the same thing.
Speaker 7: They were merged into one movement, and I think when
Speaker 7: they were at their absolutely strongest, when they were at
Speaker 7: their peak, I think when they were really kind of uh,
Speaker 7: I don't know, in the really primed for actual legitimate
Speaker 7: change is when I think peak Biden is really when
Speaker 7: they were when they were the strongest, when they were
Speaker 7: really spitting, uh spitting the most facts. And even then,
Speaker 7: you know, with the federal government being so shit and
Speaker 7: most Republicans kind of accepting that, then essentially it went
Speaker 7: to the power essentially went down to a lower level
Speaker 7: to where you know, the Republicans and the right wing
Speaker 7: states were essentially finding ways to buttress themselves against the
Speaker 7: federal government. Held we had during the Biden during the
Speaker 7: Biden administration, we had uh was it what's it what
Speaker 7: do they call it in the like the weed thing
Speaker 7: where you're allowed to cant the what's.
Speaker 3: It called a uh, the criminalizatio?
Speaker 7: No not, I'm retarded. I'm trying. I think of essentially
Speaker 7: they were having the sanctuary spots for guns, essentially sanctuary
Speaker 7: states for guns. I don't know if that's how they
Speaker 7: framed it. I think they framed it kind of like
Speaker 7: a weed where like they essentially were like, world, just
Speaker 7: flagrantly disregard your laws if you pass them here in
Speaker 7: this state or whatever. So this is the sort of things,
Speaker 7: the sort of moves they're having. So with this like
Speaker 7: hopelessness on the federal government side, I actually think it
Speaker 7: allows people to see things more clearly and realize like, oh,
Speaker 7: we were misallocating our energy into that. And while obviously
Speaker 7: you guys know me, I'm you know, I don't advocate
Speaker 7: political involvement at all generally speaking, but if you were
Speaker 7: going to, I would definitely go down to the lowest
Speaker 7: and lowest and lowest level. I just take it down
Speaker 7: to the absolute lowest, down to the individual and do
Speaker 7: your own thing and kind of build up from there.
Speaker 7: But if you are going to engage I think you
Speaker 7: should engage with the federal government in the least, maybe
Speaker 7: more so your your state or local like you were
Speaker 7: advocating for. But with that on my point being is
Speaker 7: with you know MTG and with Massy's seats both being
Speaker 7: taken by rabid Zionists, I think in people may realize like,
Speaker 7: oh shit, that's not the path there, and like, well,
Speaker 7: that may be a little bit of a bleak thing,
Speaker 7: and like, oh no, the Zionists are gonna get more
Speaker 7: of they want. It's like, I don't know, are they
Speaker 7: Because in a certain sense, with them depleting that power
Speaker 7: the people, you know, pulling people away from it no
Speaker 7: longer wanting to engage with that system in a certain sense,
Speaker 7: that that removes power from it as well, because it's
Speaker 7: essentially the state is something that operates off of you know,
Speaker 7: the mental, the physical, the psychic energy of the populace essentially.
Speaker 7: So if you can get CPL to decouple from it,
Speaker 7: you'll find ways to buttress against it. Yeah, you may
Speaker 7: not get the you know, straight A to B you
Speaker 7: know line, and it may be less kind of the
Speaker 7: scene and unseen there, and you may not get this
Speaker 7: like oh, this bill resulted in a thing. It may
Speaker 7: just be enough people stopped engaging with the federal government.
Speaker 7: Maybe people might start having a different mentality when it
Speaker 7: came to chipping in paying your fair share or whatever,
Speaker 7: when it's like, fuck you, your fair share is zero.
Speaker 7: So I think that may start affecting the taxes they're
Speaker 7: able to pull in, the compliance they're able to get
Speaker 7: for certain things, et cetera, et cetera. So it might
Speaker 7: be a little bit of a positive. It just people
Speaker 7: may not. It's kind of hard to see it when
Speaker 7: you're in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. One of the things you touched on a little
Speaker 3: tiny morsel about the white pill is at our state convention,
Speaker 3: we had Todd Wisnisky from the NCP and he was
Speaker 3: talking about how nullification as a pipe dream and will
Speaker 3: never work. And you could feel the heat off of
Speaker 3: Dave Benner's head, you know, from the back of the
Speaker 3: room as he's fuming. But it makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's happened in loose states, you know, where
Speaker 3: they just you know, Colorado was the first. There's like,
Speaker 3: we're not gonna honor federal law on the weed thing,
Speaker 3: you know, red Yeah, and and yeah, well there's a
Speaker 3: there's an actual term for you know, just disregarding federal law,
Speaker 3: and and you know it's easily I mean, you notice
Speaker 3: there was no dea raids in Colorado. Their biggest problem
Speaker 3: was the fact that they couldn't you know, involve themselves
Speaker 3: in the banking system, and they were just sitting on,
Speaker 3: you know, a ton of cash, you know. And then
Speaker 3: finally they found a workaround for that once that Farm
Speaker 3: bill was passed. So uh, I mean, that seems to
Speaker 3: be the path of least resistance at the state level,
Speaker 3: But a lot of the state representatives that I interact
Speaker 3: with are always scared of getting federal funding pulled, you know,
Speaker 3: because of something like that. We've passed a build that
Speaker 3: its original language was intended to make it so that
Speaker 3: you had to have a citizenship requirement to attend public schools,
Speaker 3: and if you could not prove citizenship, you were still
Speaker 3: allowed to attend public schools, but you had to pay.
Speaker 3: And then when legal got a hold of it, it
Speaker 3: got watered down. In what they're down to now, they're
Speaker 3: just collecting how many people are non citizens in how
Speaker 3: many people are non citizens in the public school system,
Speaker 3: so that they can challenge Supreme Court ruling apply lair
Speaker 3: versus the Department of Education. But I think to roll
Speaker 3: it all into one thing is that you just really
Speaker 3: need to be involved in your community. And even if
Speaker 3: you're not involved in say politics or religion, knowing your
Speaker 3: neighbors and finding like minded people, you know, which is
Speaker 3: fairly easy here where I live at you know, everybody
Speaker 3: owns guns. You know, it's you We're kind of like Mandalorians.
Speaker 3: You know, it's part of our religion. So but you know,
Speaker 3: having having a community, whether it be church or you know,
Speaker 3: joining the Hell's Angels or whatever, you know, it will
Speaker 3: give you, you know, some sort of solace, but definitely
Speaker 3: a decentralized approach to your your community will ultimately strengthen you.
Speaker 3: Of course I advocate for religion, but I know that's
Speaker 3: probably not going to be popular with Chad.
Speaker 7: So I think my chat, our chat generally fairly religious. Well, John,
Speaker 7: you anything melts for us. I think we're going to
Speaker 7: bring on shy. I appreciate discussion, a little bit of
Speaker 7: black pill, a little bit of white pill, a little
Speaker 7: bit of great pill. I don't know if Austin you
Speaker 7: got any thoughts or John?
Speaker 2: Before I let you go, do you have anything Austin
Speaker 2: For me, not really, brother, I'm honestly, I'm a lot
Speaker 2: more focused on the subversive nature of the intelligence apparatus.
Speaker 2: I don't give a shit about politics or voting or
Speaker 2: you know, elections. So yeah, I think we have too
Speaker 2: many examples of how they subvert grassroots movements, and you know,
Speaker 2: the state and local level is basically a waste of
Speaker 2: time in a way as well, except to spread the message,
Speaker 2: but it definitely hasn't had an impact on the structural
Speaker 2: change of government in itself, and we continue down the
Speaker 2: same dystopian paths. So that is my only kind of
Speaker 2: I don't know, it is a black pill reaction, I guess,
Speaker 2: but I think there are other priorities worth focusing on.
Speaker 2: I think my own individual path and my family and
Speaker 2: and and the kind of more low hanging fruit of
Speaker 2: what I can control. I don't want to get lost
Speaker 2: in the outcome of essentially a rigged election process. It's
Speaker 2: not really something that that I'm interested in. But I
Speaker 2: understand why people are concerned, and you know, I definitely
Speaker 2: echo that concern. But yeah, I don't know, I have
Speaker 2: other things to kind of spend my time focusing on,
Speaker 2: I guess, But I appreciate what you had to say,
Speaker 2: for sure, brother, but you.
Speaker 3: Do understand the reason that I do. I still am
Speaker 3: involved in it because I still think that there is
Speaker 3: a pathway to using what is already in existence to
Speaker 3: better the future for my children and my grandchildren and
Speaker 3: get the concept, brother. And but yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm an an cap at hard and anarchist straight up.
Speaker 3: But you know, like you know, like we grow our
Speaker 3: own food, you know, like we have survival skills. We
Speaker 3: prad that that sounds crazy to y'all, but uh, their.
Speaker 2: Their property is gold these days, my friend, weren't anything.
Speaker 2: That's why growing up on a farm and having that
Speaker 2: kind of perspective was so important and the reason I
Speaker 2: want to move back to that thirty five acre farm,
Speaker 2: you know, on a fresh creek with a with a
Speaker 2: fresh water Uh you know, uh, it's just well and
Speaker 2: it's just it definitely is the way forward. But that's
Speaker 2: that's kind of like insulating myself from the consequences of
Speaker 2: the permanent establishment, as I've said before, and and that's
Speaker 2: my ultimate goal is is allow them to affect my
Speaker 2: life as little as possible. You know, how much can
Speaker 2: I personally opt out basically what I try to prioritize.
Speaker 2: But I understand the community, you know, value right of organizing.
Speaker 2: I am just in every way opposed to collectivism, and
Speaker 2: I think it's always infiltrated, you know, redirected. There's just
Speaker 2: such a sophisticated level of divisiveness and deliberate, deceptive kind
Speaker 2: of operations that are are very much unacknowledged, you know,
Speaker 2: to this very day. I mean that is the concept
Speaker 2: of a classified you know, covert operation. So whatever we
Speaker 2: can gain kind of an evidentiary window an example of
Speaker 2: to to I don't know, further kind of structure our
Speaker 2: own perspective on how power exists and functions. Man, that's
Speaker 2: valuable to me personally. But you know, I will in
Speaker 2: no way kind of this, I don't know, disincentivize someone
Speaker 2: or try and influence them to not participate.
Speaker 3: Eight.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, we definitely need that process to
Speaker 2: to continue. But yeah, I don't know. It's it's a
Speaker 2: strange kind of debated conversation in a way, but I
Speaker 2: do appreciate it as well. So yeah, that's understood just.
Speaker 3: The way my mind works. So tactically is that learning
Speaker 3: and understanding it from an insider's perspective gives you more
Speaker 3: ways to work around it, you know. So but yeah, no,
Speaker 3: bring on Shy, I'm sure he'll have.
Speaker 2: We got to talk about that San Diego mass shooting
Speaker 2: before I leave. For sure.
Speaker 7: You kind of already did.
Speaker 6: I did.
Speaker 7: I didn't really get more you want.
Speaker 3: To talk about.
Speaker 2: I would like. I think it's fascinating because there's some
Speaker 2: there's some incredible, uh you know, tie ins that fit
Speaker 2: that pattern recognition to such an extent to where it's
Speaker 2: like talk about an extraordinary number of red flags that
Speaker 2: again you know, are part of that formula that that
Speaker 2: we've very much just I don't know, spot given the
Speaker 2: spotlight many times in the past. So yeah, it's just
Speaker 2: ridiculous to me how it kind of played out. And
Speaker 2: then all also the coverage and the reaction they're in
Speaker 2: and and then uh, some of the claims that haven't
Speaker 2: been given that spotlight strategically and deceptively by the Mockingbird media.
Speaker 3: So but yeah, anyway, yeah, just be gentle on it.
Speaker 3: You went hard on Waco last week, you know.
Speaker 7: So let me know if you want to do an
Speaker 7: episode on Yeah, just just.
Speaker 3: Be gentle you. I don't want you hurt and yourself stretched.
Speaker 7: All right, let's get shy and he appreciate you. John. Uh,
Speaker 7: let's get shy up in this motherfucker, Shy, What is up,
Speaker 7: my friend? I believe you the last caller will be
Speaker 7: bringing on for today. Jacob. You can go ahead and
Speaker 7: turn off the phone lines too. We won't be taking
Speaker 7: any more calls.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: But Shy, what do you got for today? What are
Speaker 7: your thoughts? Anything you want to talk about? What's up?
Speaker 7: Are we losing you? Maybe we will be talking about Uh?
Speaker 7: I think yeah, Shy, we're gonna have to let you go.
Speaker 7: Your internet is is? I don't think it's coming back.
Speaker 7: It's it's a pretty rough thought. So we'll let you go, Shy.
Speaker 7: That works out, Austin. I think you had probably at
Speaker 7: least another twenty minutes, so you clearly are are ready
Speaker 7: to fucking just rip and roar, so Shy, we're gonna
Speaker 7: kick you out here. Appreciate your time, brother, appreciate your support.
Speaker 7: Sorry about the internet for tonight. Hey, it was me
Speaker 7: last week, it's you this week. So better you than me,
Speaker 7: I guess going on guys.
Speaker 3: Out you guys can just take me off.
Speaker 7: I think you're like you know, three minutes delayed, So
Speaker 7: I think we're gonna have to let you go. This
Speaker 7: is quite the delay. But appreciate your brother. We'll let
Speaker 7: you go. Uh but yeah, Austin, what what what thoughts
Speaker 7: you got about this? But this is a shooting the
Speaker 7: moss the moss stuff. I know, we threaded it to
Speaker 7: get there were a few other things, but we didn't
Speaker 7: really hone in on it. It sounds like you're still
Speaker 7: itching to hone in on it. More so, what stuck
Speaker 7: out to you that you really really want to dig into?
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's really the the interesting layers to this
Speaker 2: case that have been made public so far as far
Speaker 2: as the details are concerned. They've finally identified the suspects.
Speaker 2: And this obviously just for people who are unaware. May eighteenth,
Speaker 2: So yesterday there was a shooting at at this mosque
Speaker 2: basically the Islamic Center of San Diego, which is the
Speaker 2: largest mosque in San Diego apparently, and so you have
Speaker 2: two teenagers. There was a seventeen year old and an
Speaker 2: eighteen year old. I think they've been identified now as
Speaker 2: a seventeen year old Caine Clark, an eighteen year old Caleb.
Speaker 2: The last Quez Velasque, as I believe is House Final's
Speaker 2: vas Quez is what I'm seeing. Yeah, you're totally right, Velask.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I misread that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, vast Ques, vast Ques Is said for sure, it
Speaker 7: is the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Vasquez, My bad, I mispronounced that. But the point
Speaker 2: being is that basically you have these two teenagers who
Speaker 2: you know, shot three individuals. I believe one specifically was
Speaker 2: a security guard and two of them were staff members.
Speaker 2: And this happened outside the mosque. After the security guard
Speaker 2: essentially recognized the shooters or at least saw them as
Speaker 2: potential perpetrators and saw the firearms that they were wielding
Speaker 2: and things of that nature, they attempted to stream this
Speaker 2: live as far as the shooting process and the crime
Speaker 2: in itself, and I believe instantly you had the authorities
Speaker 2: basically identify this as a hate crime, and so you have.
Speaker 2: And I did find it very interesting that this apparent
Speaker 2: mosque in San Diego had been in the past, I
Speaker 2: think in the early nineties, during the heightened tension of
Speaker 2: the Goal War, you basically had an attempted bomb on
Speaker 2: this very mosque, I think in January of ninety one.
Speaker 2: So the fact that it's kind of a long standing
Speaker 2: site for some type of potential because I believe in
Speaker 2: the area there have been other identified potential hate crimes,
Speaker 2: right that have occurred at these Muslim sites, specifically this mosque,
Speaker 2: and so it seems like it's no kind of strange
Speaker 2: unusual occurrence for this specific site to be targeted. It's
Speaker 2: you know, who knows. I just thought that was somewhat interesting.
Speaker 2: But so the way in which it happened is you
Speaker 2: have a mother who basically she called the authorities. Basically,
Speaker 2: the police department in San Diego received a nine to
Speaker 2: one one call from the mother of one of the perpetrators,
Speaker 2: and I found that to be strange. She actually made
Speaker 2: a statement that he was suicidal and was last seeing
Speaker 2: wearing camo and basically he had stolen the firearm, the
Speaker 2: family's firearms in their car as well. And so there
Speaker 2: was an APB put out on this kid. And you
Speaker 2: had digital surveillance cams like all this, right, traffic system cams,
Speaker 2: all of this that were being utilized by the authorities
Speaker 2: in this search for this kid. And this is while
Speaker 2: they're searching for him, they essentially engage in this criminal
Speaker 2: act and open fire at this mosque, but it was
Speaker 2: when they were running into the the mosque that they
Speaker 2: were identified by the security guard, who basically got into
Speaker 2: a firefight with them and then drove them outside of
Speaker 2: the mosque where he was effectively, you know, targeted and
Speaker 2: killed in the parking lot. And what's interesting is that
Speaker 2: they then, I believe their attention was they were distracted,
Speaker 2: and their attention essentially went to these two staff members
Speaker 2: who were in sorry, in another area of the outside
Speaker 2: lot right near the mosque, and basically they go over
Speaker 2: to those two staff members and kill them and you know,
Speaker 2: cold blood and broad daylight, and then I believe they
Speaker 2: attempt to flee. And what's strange is that you have,
Speaker 2: as the authorities are all arriving on the scene, as
Speaker 2: they attempt, as the perpetrators attempt to flee, you have
Speaker 2: one of the perpetrators turned to his fellow teenage perpetrator
Speaker 2: right shoot them in the side of the head and
Speaker 2: then proceed to shoot themselves. That's allegedly how this is
Speaker 2: played out. So I think it was they received I
Speaker 2: believe the San Diego Police Department received a report on
Speaker 2: multiple reports about this shooting and process sort of thing,
Speaker 2: and yeah, I think a witness made the claim that
Speaker 2: gunmen carried out a drive by shooting. And then you
Speaker 2: had a landscaper who was grazed by a bullet and
Speaker 2: the bullet lodged into the sidewall of a nearby home
Speaker 2: that he was working on effectively, or a building of
Speaker 2: some kind. Not entirely sure if it was a private
Speaker 2: home he was landscaping or something, but yeah, he was
Speaker 2: apparently bleeding from the head. But anyway, it's very interesting
Speaker 2: as far as just we should at least watch this
Speaker 2: kind of introductory short clip briefly, just so people are
Speaker 2: aware of kind of what happened.
Speaker 4: But you can hear the gunshots, a person scrambling to
Speaker 4: push a stroller to safety as a suspect opens fire
Speaker 4: in a San Diego and here glass breaking as more
Speaker 4: shots come from that very vehicle. Police say, just minutes
Speaker 4: before that shooting, two gunmen unleash a deadly rampage at
Speaker 4: a mosque, sending school kids running for their lives, two
Speaker 4: senior law enforcement officials telling NBC News the gunmen have
Speaker 4: been identified as eighteen year old Calabasquez and seventeen year
Speaker 4: old Kane Clark, and three senior law enforcement officials tell
Speaker 4: NBC News they're trying to authenticate a document purportedly written
Speaker 4: by the suspects full of anti Islamic and anti Semitic views,
Speaker 4: also describing themselves as anti Trump. Outside the car where
Speaker 4: police say they killed themselves a bottle with a Nazi
Speaker 4: SS symbol.
Speaker 3: They didn't discriminate on who they hated.
Speaker 4: And at nine a Monday, two hours before the killing spree,
Speaker 4: police say Clark's mother called police to report her suicidal
Speaker 4: son had run away, taking his parents' weapons and car.
Speaker 4: Police started a search, including in a mall and school,
Speaker 4: when two hours later the first reports of gunfire at
Speaker 4: the mosque and then that second shooting scene just blocks away,
Speaker 4: branches still on the ground after police say the gunman
Speaker 4: opened fire on a landscaper, one bullet grazing off his helmet,
Speaker 4: another embedded right here in this very home. And tonight
Speaker 4: we're learning more about the victims, Amen Abdullah, Monsour Kaziha
Speaker 4: and Nadir Awad. Police say Abdullah opened fire on the
Speaker 4: suspects and all three heroically distracted the gunmen away from
Speaker 4: the mosque before police arrived.
Speaker 10: I actually believe that's what saved the one hundred and
Speaker 10: forty kids that were just inside tonight.
Speaker 4: We spoke to you mom ta Ha Hassein, who said
Speaker 4: Abdullah also sent a critical warning even in the middle
Speaker 4: of a gunfight.
Speaker 3: He grabbed his radio and.
Speaker 10: Said what he sent a message and multification to all
Speaker 10: the teachers and the stuff inside the building that there
Speaker 10: is an active shooter inside the building. At the last
Speaker 10: moment of his life, he thought about saving the lives
Speaker 10: of the kids and everyone inside this building.
Speaker 2: So basically, at the end of this clip, they frame
Speaker 2: it as obviously a hate crime. But this was the
Speaker 2: only clip that I pulled that I actually heard them
Speaker 2: claim that the shooters claim to be anti Trump as well.
Speaker 2: This before any of the manifesto leaked, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: as it.
Speaker 7: Leaked it because I was I was quickly browsing with
Speaker 7: some articles because I haven't I hadn't heard about this
Speaker 7: yet when you mentioned it today, so I was quickly
Speaker 7: looking at it, and it looks exactly I mean, there
Speaker 7: was a seventy five page manifesto supposedly they found so
Speaker 7: but you're saying it's some of it's leaked. I'm kind
Speaker 7: of interested to see what that looks like because I'm
Speaker 7: wondering if it has a trolling vibe to it.
Speaker 2: So that's what it does.
Speaker 7: Okay, So once again it's like, you know, all this
Speaker 7: hate speech this and that, and you're like, yeah, it is.
Speaker 7: This would probably be actually one of the most accurate
Speaker 7: examples of hate speech with these sorts of people. The
Speaker 7: acceleration is because it really is like a hate for everything,
Speaker 7: lashing out type thing. So like, yeah, although there's no
Speaker 7: real like coherent ideology aside from just fucking with everybody,
Speaker 7: people try to find. We'll always try to, you know,
Speaker 7: associate these groups with being right wing, left wing this that,
Speaker 7: But then you like go through there. It's not really sensical.
Speaker 7: It's completely nonsensical when you go through stuff. It is
Speaker 7: just kind of a through line. This is why I like,
Speaker 7: you'll see so many trannies that are in this and
Speaker 7: it's like a Nazi trannies and you're like, make that
Speaker 7: make sense, and you're like, well, if you have like
Speaker 7: an inverse of the world perspective of the world and
Speaker 7: you hate everything, you can kind of make it make sense.
Speaker 7: So but yeah, this looks like some acceleration of shit
Speaker 7: for sure, exactly.
Speaker 2: And that's what they essentially dubbed themselves are our white
Speaker 2: terrorist saints of you know, the accelerationist New Age movement
Speaker 2: basically is what they kind of claim they are revolutionaries.
Speaker 2: In a way, it starts heroes and inspirations. Brenton Torrant
Speaker 2: obviously both of our biggest inspirations. Apparently Saint Torrant revolutionized
Speaker 2: and brought forth a new age of white terror, bringing
Speaker 2: us many more saints. We're proud and honored to be
Speaker 2: the next and the now long chain of his disciples,
Speaker 2: and we hope to make him proud and honor his legacy.
Speaker 2: To me, as I see it, he's the greatest saint
Speaker 2: of them all and has done the most, combining his
Speaker 2: creation of the live streamed attack, his high score, how
Speaker 2: iconic his gear and weapons were with the writing on them,
Speaker 2: his amazing manifesto, him propelling eco fascism and accelerationism into
Speaker 2: the mainstream. This is the language, how memorable his event was,
Speaker 2: and with everything else, there's no doubt or competition to
Speaker 2: this when you lay out all the facts. He truly
Speaker 2: is the best. Hail Brenton Harrison Tarrant, our hero, a
Speaker 2: true revolutionary. Then they mentioned Peyton Gendron, the personal and
Speaker 2: apparently my personal favorite saint and second to tarrent the
Speaker 2: biggest catalyst towards my radicalization. I relate to Peyton a lot,
Speaker 2: as we share a lot in common to the paths
Speaker 2: that led us to where we are, having similar interests
Speaker 2: upbringing how we were radicalized, being directly inspired most by
Speaker 2: Brenton being close in age preparation and gear. I only
Speaker 2: wish I could have met him. His writings were endlessly
Speaker 2: helpful in my own planning and were generally a great read,
Speaker 2: especially when the instant, especially with the including graphs and memes.
Speaker 2: His manifesto also gave much insight on both the Jews
Speaker 2: and Blacks, giving well explained information with sources. Also being
Speaker 2: one of the first disciples of Torrant after a long
Speaker 2: gap between the last bunch. Thank you, Peyton Gendron. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been able to go through with this without you.
Speaker 2: Just got to go for it, right. So the fact
Speaker 2: that you have this with the Black Sun clearly it's
Speaker 2: called the New Crusade basically, and it's dubbed the Manifesto
Speaker 2: Sons of Torrant, and it has the Zodiac symbol that
Speaker 2: the Zodiac serial killer obviously allegedly utilized, and also like
Speaker 2: I mentioned the Black Sun, which is clearly a symbolic
Speaker 2: in terms of this kind of acceleration of ideology. But
Speaker 2: they go into and apparently there's a video of the
Speaker 2: two of them committing this suicide in a car, streamed
Speaker 2: over discord, a discord call, which it seems like apparently
Speaker 2: the stream was basically unsuccessful and the whole shooting itself
Speaker 2: on a go pro didn't effectively take place as they
Speaker 2: had hoped, So they said, spread our message. I'll make
Speaker 2: sure to properly post the links to all of our
Speaker 2: writings and of course the stream links to both our
Speaker 2: go pro povs. But once that happens, the archiving and
Speaker 2: spreading will be up to you, so do your part.
Speaker 2: I will have to make sure that all documents and
Speaker 2: folders are easily in public to be accessed and saved,
Speaker 2: checking both beforehand and day of to confirm this. I
Speaker 2: will do several test streams to optimize it set up,
Speaker 2: likely being on either four to twenty P or seven
Speaker 2: to twenty P to find a balance between not having
Speaker 2: a laggy live stream but still decent quality. During I
Speaker 2: will double check that they are up and running and
Speaker 2: wait until a satisfactory number of people have joined to
Speaker 2: better our odds that someone actually records. There will also
Speaker 2: be several copies of everything posted both in our logs
Speaker 2: send out the people maybe and posted to various sites,
Speaker 2: likely being Shardi eight kuhns Aardi and in Chan. So
Speaker 2: that is the first aspect of kind of like the
Speaker 2: the obvious language. That's this. This is more than pattern
Speaker 2: recognition in my opinion, right, I mean, this playbook, this
Speaker 2: is the accelerationist manifesto at you know that we've seen
Speaker 2: so many times in the past. And then we have
Speaker 2: basically a report from the New York Post and this
Speaker 2: caught my attention instantly. The headline is San Diego mosque
Speaker 2: shooters were quote radicalized online, were Nazi symbols inscribed vile
Speaker 2: three word message on guns. The weapons themselves look exactly
Speaker 2: like Tyler Robinson look exactly like or not Tyler Umps
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Robin Westman, look exactly like Who is that
Speaker 2: individual that Robin Westman idolized and was obsessed of as well,
Speaker 2: who had the strange black sun symbolism.
Speaker 7: And yeah, you're you're saying, they like printed the little
Speaker 7: little stuff all over their guns and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it's exactly what they did. And I forget
Speaker 2: the more recent example of that uh directly playing out
Speaker 2: as well, but it definitely applied to the Minneapolis mass shooting.
Speaker 2: And so I read through and it basically says that
Speaker 2: they're radicalized online according to the cops, and and UH,
Speaker 2: it was revealed they they wore Nazi symbols and we
Speaker 2: saw the SS on the on the symbology on the
Speaker 2: on the what was it a gas can? I think
Speaker 2: it was that we just saw on that on that
Speaker 2: news clip. They had etched racist statements on their gear
Speaker 2: as they opened fire outside the Islamic Center. So they
Speaker 2: said they did not discriminate on who they hated, right,
Speaker 2: And again you saw that as far as the authorities
Speaker 2: claiming that much. Now, a livestream video of the horrific attack,
Speaker 2: currently being probed by the FBI shows Kane Clark.
Speaker 7: Sorry, I got to say it. I had an interestive
Speaker 7: thought and I laughed, but I know it's that fucked up.
Speaker 7: I laughed and just almost almost said he's chued the
Speaker 7: chud the destroyer for real, honestly, so like inverge, because
Speaker 7: I was thinking it with like probably with UH slurs
Speaker 7: all over his guns and you know, as they're carrying
Speaker 7: this out, so chud the destroyer. But anyways, that was stupid, sorry,
Speaker 7: because it just seemed inappropriate. I like, weirdly chuckled. It
Speaker 7: was a stupid thought. It so I had, I had
Speaker 7: to mention I had, I had a funny thought. I
Speaker 7: was laughing at the idea of people getting killed by
Speaker 7: deranged Uh.
Speaker 2: Luck, probably important to point that point out, but uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, It just when I'm looking through this. Uh,
Speaker 2: the the Cane Clark perpetrator, right, I think he's the
Speaker 2: seventeen year old. He had the black sun symbol, uh,
Speaker 2: clearly on his vest, his bulletproof vest that he was
Speaker 2: wearing above his camo and or his fatigues, I guess.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so not only do you have the black
Speaker 2: sun symbol, obviously, it's a part of Heinrich Himmler and
Speaker 2: so much more. That's the fascist ruin essentially, is what
Speaker 2: it's considered at this point. I think in the SS
Speaker 2: Castle that Himmler utilized obviously, I think the black sun
Speaker 2: was on the base of the strange ritual chamber that
Speaker 2: they would utilize apparently for blood ritual sacrifice. But anyway,
Speaker 2: so another symbol was the Adam Offfen Division. Right, So
Speaker 2: clearly you see this being displayed as well, and I
Speaker 2: think the German phrase for atomic weapons obviously. But yeah,
Speaker 2: so I think that whenever you look through the additional
Speaker 2: layers of it, I mean, they have more apparent statements
Speaker 2: where they claim race war. Now, right is a quote
Speaker 2: and right above it is a swastika. Neo Nazis and
Speaker 2: white nationalists are essentially what they are claiming. The authorities
Speaker 2: are claiming that they're promoting this race war. Kind of
Speaker 2: attempted avenue of overthrowing the government to create a white
Speaker 2: ethno state is what they try and act is the
Speaker 2: ultimate concern of these perpetrators. But I don't know. It's
Speaker 2: once more a direct example of this accelerationist playbook. And
Speaker 2: whenever I saw there was one additional layer to this,
Speaker 2: where Cane Clark has a neighbor, right, she comes out
Speaker 2: and makes a statement, there was another published article I
Speaker 2: had seen where she reveals what was referred to as
Speaker 2: a haunting encounter with this Cane Clark, this teenager just
Speaker 2: before I think the day before the shooting took place.
Speaker 2: And so I looked into this and her name is
Speaker 2: Jennifer dou She lives across the street from Cane Clark,
Speaker 2: and she recalled seeing this seventeen year old on Sunday
Speaker 2: the day before he in eighteen year old Calebasquez open
Speaker 2: fire at the Islamic Center of San Diego. And so
Speaker 2: she says, it's been unreal. Basically, I saw him literally
Speaker 2: the day before. He just stood there with a blank face,
Speaker 2: not reacting whatsoever. Right, he apparently had gone out and
Speaker 2: had grabbed like food delivery. But the fact that that
Speaker 2: was her obvious statement, all that I thought of was
Speaker 2: Wade Michael Page sitting in the car in a trance,
Speaker 2: basically according to his neighbor, who said, the only visitor
Speaker 2: he had before the seekh you know, Wisconsin Seek Temple
Speaker 2: shooting was a pizza delivery driver who just kept showing
Speaker 2: up at his apartment. So he had apparently a very
Speaker 2: unrelenting appetite for pizza leading up to his mass shooting.
Speaker 2: So who knows. But anyway, the fact that this is her,
Speaker 2: and again, what are we to do with this? It's
Speaker 2: just another strange aspect, another detail that we can kind
Speaker 2: of layer into our scope of how to even internalize
Speaker 2: and interpret this event. But uh, I guarantee you there
Speaker 2: will be much more to come of this, I think,
Speaker 2: uh yeah, something to keep our eyes peeled for and
Speaker 2: and uh and definitely just in terms of the detailed surfacing.
Speaker 2: So I would like to learn more about the background.
Speaker 3: On this kid in hand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean them to be.
Speaker 7: I mean we kind of throughout this course of this
Speaker 7: episode we brought up multiple different things. We brought the
Speaker 7: Crooks stuff, and you have the Willie Tepis stuff, and
Speaker 7: then you see all these hidden hands. You see the
Speaker 7: Garland shooting with the informants pushing it. So are there
Speaker 7: are these hidden hands and like we may not always
Speaker 7: see them, and they may be uh maybe less overt
Speaker 7: than others. Sometimes they may use more subtle tactics to
Speaker 7: get there, to get their way. But at ther end,
Speaker 7: I mean, even if you are going as uh as
Speaker 7: convoluted as even just you know, the the the the
Speaker 7: spreading of the nine a ideology, and you know it's
Speaker 7: that and of itself. You know it kind of started
Speaker 7: from an OP. So I mean ops with an ops
Speaker 7: circling around coming back to an OP. You know, over
Speaker 7: just uh, you know, we're reaching levels of ops unseen
Speaker 7: and we'll be here again next week to cover it again.
Speaker 7: We're coming to the end before we.
Speaker 2: End, because there's one just just knowing, And we talked
Speaker 2: about this briefly and privately. It's just knowing the alleged inspiration, right,
Speaker 2: who motivated this event for for these two at least
Speaker 2: influenced their radicalization, who they mentioned by name allegedly in
Speaker 2: this manifesto being Peyton Spencer Gendron right, who Yeah, the
Speaker 2: Buffalo what was it? Tops Tops Friendly Markets in Buffalo,
Speaker 2: this supermarket where I think it was like ten people
Speaker 2: were killed, right, and and uh, which again it's it's
Speaker 2: they're consistently kind of gauging the body counts right in
Speaker 2: terms of that actually playing into the numbers that they
Speaker 2: could achieve in their diabolical plot.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 7: But the mentioned earlier this episode, I don't know if
Speaker 7: it was before the show or if it was during
Speaker 7: the show as well, But with that, there was recently
Speaker 7: it was recently revealed that there is hidden court information
Speaker 7: that's essentially typically only done when it's like sensitive sort
Speaker 7: of stuff. So I talked about that with Ken this morning.
Speaker 7: So even more to the hidden hand, there was clearly
Speaker 7: or very likely seemed to be a hidden hand in
Speaker 7: the Buffalo shooting as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was the Buffalo News they specifically reported
Speaker 2: it was, I believe in the court case. Right throughout
Speaker 2: the trial process, the Feds are claiming that they say
Speaker 2: that national security is essentially at risk if classified information
Speaker 2: about the Hops massacre is released publicly, and so the
Speaker 2: fact that they would even make that statement is very
Speaker 2: much concerning and problematic. But then I followed that through
Speaker 2: and found an additional publication that I think it was
Speaker 2: a Gateway pundit article, and it had claimed that a
Speaker 2: retired federal agent was in regular communication with the Buffalo
Speaker 2: shooter and may have had advanced notice of Gendron's plans
Speaker 2: to murder black people. And so I look into this,
Speaker 2: and essentially you have this eighteen year old Peyton Gendron
Speaker 2: who fatally shot those ten people at the supermarket and
Speaker 2: essentially individuals in an online discord chat room, possibly including
Speaker 2: and we know this is officially recognized at this point,
Speaker 2: but it's still been a sort of hidden from public disclosure, essentially,
Speaker 2: is what's happening. But we're now getting official reports that
Speaker 2: essentially a part of this discord room, that apparently Gendron
Speaker 2: was a part of and was actually communicating through and
Speaker 2: in this channel leading up to I think between thirty
Speaker 2: minutes before the event went live. And so that in
Speaker 2: itself is very strange. But so according to Buffalo News, right,
Speaker 2: you had individuals in this online chat room and which
Speaker 2: included this retired federal agent asking Peyton Gendron to read
Speaker 2: his mass shooting plans thirty minutes before the attack. That's
Speaker 2: an official statement from this published article. Now, now one
Speaker 2: person in the chat room notified law enforcement about Gendron's
Speaker 2: plans to murder these ten African Americans. FBI agents are
Speaker 2: allegedly working to locate and interview the six people in
Speaker 2: the chat including the former fed. Buffalo News reported law
Speaker 2: enforcement officers are investigating whether a retired federal agent had
Speaker 2: about thirty minutes advanced notice of a white supremacist plans
Speaker 2: to murder black people at a Buffalo supermarket. Two law
Speaker 2: enforcement officials told the Buffalo News. Authorities believe the former agent,
Speaker 2: believed to be from Texas, was one of at least
Speaker 2: six individuals who regularly communicated with the QUS gunman Peyton
Speaker 2: Gendron in an online chat room where racist hatred was discussed.
Speaker 2: The two law enforcement sources with direct knowledge of the
Speaker 2: investigation stated these individuals were invited by Gendron to read
Speaker 2: about his mass shooting plans in the target location about
Speaker 2: thirty minutes before Gendron killed ten people at Tops Market
Speaker 2: on Jefferson Avenue on May fourteenth. So these were quote
Speaker 2: like minded people who used this chat group to talk
Speaker 2: about their shared interests in racial hatred, replacement theory, and
Speaker 2: the hatred of anyone who is Jewish, a person of color,
Speaker 2: or not of European ancestry. This is according to one
Speaker 2: of the two law enforcement officials with close knowledge of
Speaker 2: the investigation. So what is especially upsetting is that these
Speaker 2: six people received advanced notice, prior knowledge of the Buffalo
Speaker 2: shooting about thirty minutes prior to it taking place. Boom right.
Speaker 7: So this is the.
Speaker 2: Motivating inspiration in terms of the teenage perpetrator, idolized and
Speaker 2: obsessed over by the alleged perpetrators in this with our
Speaker 2: San Diego mosque shooting. So yeah, all the world's is
Speaker 2: stage and we're surrounded by psyops.
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