Speaker 1: It's the Internet. You're busy, Let's do this. Welcome to
the gay Mes Deicides Podcast. This is the podcast where
we decide everything about the world of games, so you
never have to think for yourself. I'm your host Jeff
Grubb and with me.
Speaker 2: Is Mike Manati.
Speaker 1: In today's episode, what to expect from that state of play?
Rest in peace to destiny, and Bubbsy is back Jack.
We're gonna get into every episode from now on. Mike,
how are you doing?
Speaker 2: Ah, doing good?
Speaker 1: Doing good?
Speaker 2: This week feels like it's been going by pretty fast.
It's been sort of busy and eventful. Yes, uh, just
watched my niece play softball, got some Army's with my
brother RB. Switched from like the more opaque plastic cups
are the clear ones. Now, do you have a preference
to plastic? I don't know. I'm just I'm just like
a little bit. I'm getting used to the change, right.
Speaker 1: Well, you have to accept the change before you know
whether how you feel about it. Sometimes there are moments
where like something will change and I think you know
pretty quickly, or like I don't like this as much,
so not immediately a bad sign here, I would say
I like those kinds of plastic cups by the way, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're pretty good. My insect is that it probably
doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but probably not. No, But I mean, I'm probably fine,
and yet I still have opinions on these things. I uh,
Steph needed some cups for her coffees, and uh so
I got her like basically Starbucks style cups that we
can wash, but they you know, you know, if they
get used a cup few too many times, they can
also be thrown out. And uh I use those for
my water now. And it's real, real, real good. I
like that quite a bit.
Speaker 2: Chats right, These do sweat a bit more, I guess,
but what whatever, I think.
Speaker 1: I like that condensation. To me, that's like, ooh, this
is gonna be refreshing. I would say it's bad for wood,
But this desk I have is so old and the
wood has already so warped. I love how old and
shitty this desk is. I got my computer desk. I
got a key I think when I was going to college.
Speaker 2: Whoa, okay, all right, that's a real one. Then this
is old and it's like, remember I bought that new
desk and then I just never built it. Because I
was like, I couldn't actually part with this desk. It's
been too good to be so. Yeah, I've been holding
onto this thing for a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the dusk has not been an issue at all.
I'm glad you stuck with it. That's just it just
shows how loyal you are. Yeah, yeah, exactly, all right.
We do have plenty to discuss, so let's get started
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Speaker 2: It makes a huge difference.
Speaker 1: We love to keep doing this for you and we
love to have you at our backs, so thank you
so much. All Right, we have a lot to get into, Mike,
so let's go ahead and get to those big topics
right after this. All right, let's do it. Just a
couple of headlines here. Bubbsy for dy reviews came in.
I think it's down to like a seventy three issh
on Open Critic.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I played it, I gave it three stars. That means
I like it. I basically was just super into the
movement system, moving Bubbzy around. You have a lot of
tools to just navigate platforming, and it is a platformer
ass platformer. A series of obstacle courses is I think
the best way to explain what the level structure is
like with a little bit of like deviating from that
path for collectibles, of which there's a good amount. For
the overall length of the game, which is like two
and a half hours.
Speaker 2: To see credits, it's not substantial to all.
Speaker 1: In fact, it's pretty close to the amount of time
it probably would have taken you to beat a platformer
on the Super Nintendo in most cases, which I kind
of appreciate. Live all right, you got you can't. I
gotta stop busting in here, Bubsy, we got a listen.
I got the restraining order for a reason.
Speaker 3: Easy, get it out.
Speaker 2: I know, I know we should have changed the lock
our beat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with god, I can't believe he's still doing it.
Four point five stars from Spencer Legacy at Monster Vine.
Six out of ten from Stephen Tailby. I don't know.
This is kind of what I was expecting for this game,
maybe a little bit above what I was expecting, Like,
it's hard to get these three D platformers right. Especially
after playing. I'm like, oh, it's so slight. I wonder
if people are really gonna rail against it, and I
think most people tend to agree. Yeah, it's there's not
much there, but it's not hurting the game. It does
not overstay. It's welcome.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it definitely seems like a pretty decent showing.
I'm interested in it, mostly because I like to demon
Tide so much. Apart Me's like I still need to
go finish that game. That's what I should really do.
But hearing that this is just a few hours long,
I'm like, ah, this is just a tiny little diversion.
Maybe the gimmick of making a new Bubbsy game is funny.
I like very movement based three D platformers. I think
that that always feels good. Yeah, I definitely do want
to check this one out.
Speaker 1: Still. Yeah, a lot of people keep ask me why
am I not cosplaying as Bubbsy.
Speaker 2: I have the Bubbsy shirt.
Speaker 1: I am cosplaying as Bubbsy, but just from the waist down.
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, yeah, worry everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is the best Bubsy game. And
as I played on my review, that's not saying much,
but it actually is saying that this is a good
game with a lot of caveats. It's just, you know,
the world is a little bit sparse barren, the levels
of which there are like fifteen. Really there's three worlds.
Speaker 2: And then they have five.
Speaker 1: Like Mario Galaxy style stars to go collect, and so
the course has changed for each of those. It's kind
of how it's set up. But yeah, I like a
small little diversion is a good way of putting it.
Demon Tides is a super Mario what is it? The
Bowser's Fury, Like, this is just a boucher, right, This
is just straight up going to be levels that you're
going to go through pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I did go back to it a little bit after
getting credits when I thought I wouldn't, and I did
start doing a little bit of the leaderboard stuff, a
little bit of the collect on stuff, and that makes
it feel a little bit more substantial, especially because you
can unlock so many more moves. Uh, that really do
add to the way the character feels, which is the
best part of the game. So yeah, I give it
my recommendation with the sort of asterisk that you need
to be into three D platformers at the very least.
This is not gonna win over anyone new by any chance. Uh.
Do you see that Virtual Fighter Crossroads footage leaked, Mike?
Speaker 2: I did see it. Pretty interesting. First off, Cat, she
looks sick. Sorry, I got I got this.
Speaker 3: Fucking he looks. I remember when they did the teaser
with like the guys fighting and he was like, yeah,
oh well it's not gonna be kind of like that
like that, and he's like, no, shit, is a lot
like that teaser. So I'm super happy. It looks incredible,
it looks cool.
Speaker 2: Also, thank you so much for it, Thank you so
much for giving this game across a subtitle, so Glass
just for Fighter twenty twenty seven or something like, Yeah, yeah,
that's the worst. I think it's Wolf. They're doing the
Hidden Blade by will Osprey, so from Ay, so that's fun. Yeah. Yeah,
So this leaked trailer, it's like a very put together
trailer with developer interviews. This has to be like a
summer game fest asset, right that somehow got out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be my guess for sure. Yeah, because's teasing.
Speaker 2: Sega's been teasing Crazy Taxi on social media, so it's like,
oh gosh, we're gonna see that. I think Sega's going
to have a big summer game fest in general that time,
whether they're at that show, they're at Sony's thing, wherever
they are, I hope. So these sorts of things do
get me excited.
Speaker 1: No idea what shows up there, but the timing does
feel conspicuous for both this and obviously for Crazy Taxi.
They're teasing that in the week's leading up to it.
But we'll have to see for ourselves. Bungeee is ending
active development on Destiny too. That's the big story that
did kind of break earlier this evening. They announced just
straight up, hey, we are not going to be making
new content for Destiny two. It's going to go into
a legacy maintenance mode. We're not going to be taking
it down. You're still going to be able to play it.
You might still be able to buy the game, just
the game you will be buying. Yeah, just like Destiny
one exactly. I guess it's free to play, right, So
how does that even work, Christian, I don't know. Yeah,
so you'll still be able to download the game and
play it and all that stuff, but they're not going
to be adding new content, so it's no longer an
active live service game. They said that. They they kind
of said two things that they are incubating multiple new
ideas for new games, which doesn't sound like I don't know, incubating,
makes it sound very preliminary. And then they also said
they are basically beginning the next phase of what bungeee is,
which to me, Mike said, hey, this is not going
to be a Destiny three, Like, we're not getting Destiny
three immediately after because of this, they're not working on
Destiny three. But that was just me like reading reading
the news and then going back to like feeding my
family or whatever.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Since then, Jason Tryer has just put up a pretty
quick report saying that, yeah, they're not making Destiny three
right now, and uh, they are preparing layoffs. And then
I did poke around a little bit. It does. It
does sound like it could be pretty brutal, the number
of layoffs, so.
Speaker 2: I mean sounds like a combination of you know, the
shine down desly to with out a clear replacement, and
I assume Marathon is not doing what they wanted if
this is the state that we are in right now.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I'm out, yes, yes, yeah, it's not doing
what they needed it to do to justify Bungie.
Speaker 2: You know, like we can a.
Speaker 1: Lot of a lot of times, those conversations revolve around
the idea of what did they expect this game was
going to do, and and it doesn't really work that way.
It works the way of this game needed to do
that because the team cost X and it needs to
keep up with that, and the game is just not
doing that. It doesn't mean it can't grow into that,
but they aren't going to have to make some adjustments here.
It's it's a really expensive team. And if they aren't
working on something like if they don't have something ready
to go and they're just kind of in the early
phases of incubating the next idea, they probably are like, hey,
part of that is Sony saying, we got to drop
a lot of these costs and we can build back
up over time at when you're ready for that. But
the kinds of people that will be really important three
years from now, do we want them sitting around doing
nothing while you guys get the stuff ready for them.
And it's it's going to be that brutal.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, because if they decide tomorrow, okay, we
are making Destiny three, well that comes out on what
seven years, and it's one. It was difficult making Destiny
and Destiny two in their times because the whole thing
of making like a Triple A style big life service
MMO style game where the assets are going to be
really high quality, right, it's not going to have to
be stylized like so many other MMOs, that was always
difficult they show keeping up with then trying to do
that now with the way the Triple A games cost
these days, and how heavy they can get, how expensive
that can get. It's just it's it's it's this weird
paradox of how can they not make Destiny three? And
also how can they make Destiny three? It's an awful situation.
It's a bummer because I would be so excited for
a Destiny three. I feel off a DESTI two while ago.
That would get me excited. But it's just gonna be
a really tall order to make that happen. And then yeah,
in the meantime, what do they do? Can you just
have them go and make like a single player, campaign
focused shooter from the people who made remember who made Halo?
That might be cool, But could that possibly make enough
money to make Sony happy for what they pay for them?
They keep them going, right, They're only going to be
pleased with live service money, Live service Mega hit money.
Speaker 1: It's kind of that or bust for them, I think,
I mean, yeah, no, no, no problem. If it like,
let's let's just go and assume that they are not
gonna make Destiny three. Let's just like operate under those
assumptions for a second. Then what do they do, Like,
do they do it, They're gonna just do another live service,
Like where can they pivot into?
Speaker 2: Are?
Speaker 1: Like are they gonna make I mean I would say, like,
are they gonna make a fucking Marvel game? But there's
already Marvel Rivals? Like they can't do that, right? Could
they sink that?
Speaker 2: Low?
Speaker 1: Is kind of what I'm.
Speaker 2: Wondering, Like, like, uh, hilariously, have them make the Last
of Us multiplayer game? Now I don't know that they
got there fucked up? Yeah, But like I I don't know,
what do you do?
Speaker 1: Have them make an uncharted multiplayer thing?
Speaker 2: Do you just try to get some IP it's something
that's a bit more digestible than an extraction shooter? Do
you have them go and finally make the uh battle
Royale thing or the team based thing, the hero shooter thing.
Speaker 1: Neither of those are guarantees anymore either.
Speaker 2: It's just it's if it's almost starting to feel like
an almost impossible situation, and I just I'm worried about
Bunchie for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the impossible situation what you were describing
with they kind of like we're waiting to do Destiny
three because they had such a bad experience getting Destiny
too up and running they want it, so they're like,
we're gonna stick with Destiny two. And then by the
time maybe would have made sense to do Destiny three,
the ground had shifted underneath their feet and making it
didn't make as much sense anymore.
Speaker 2: And now it's like at a low point.
Speaker 1: For that because you look like all these other companies
are like, we're not making live service anymore because we
see what's going on with Fortnite, And what's going on
with Fortnite is Epic had the biggest live service hit
in the world, and now they're laying people off by
the thousands because they're like, oh, Fortnite's not doing what
it once was, and now we have to like make cuts.
And everyone's like, what, what the fuck you're in this situation.
We're trying to have what you have and this is
what we're gonna get on the other end of it.
So everyone's kind of going in a different direction. Sony
might be going in a different direction, right, They might
be by saying be saying, hey, we do actually do
want fewer live service, but Bungee can't can't do that,
You're right, They just it doesn't that studio does not
make sense these days unless they are making huge live
service games.
Speaker 2: And I mean it can take on some even Marathon,
which like, yeah, I see why that game took a while,
it's polished.
Speaker 1: It's also like, you know, it's a film, maps and
people go in. This should some robots to get to
think of five.
Speaker 2: Years, six years development, multiple delays, hundreds of millions of
dollars to make that. It's I I gosh, I just
I hate to say it, but boy, is Budgie gonna
survive this after a few years time because what.
Speaker 1: Happens marathon doesn't quite make what happens.
Speaker 2: If a year from now they're like, oh, we can't
really justify even adding new content to Marathon. Uh, maybe
we greenlit one game that was being pitched. Did we
really care that much about that? Are we cutting our
losses here? Again? This is maybe some of this is
just the shock value of everything going on today. They
have a clear head. It's not it wouldn't seem that bad,
but it seems pretty bad right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I do think it's If it's
not that bad, it's pretty close. It's kind of the
sense I continue to get. Uh, just the basic math
of that team is expensive. They are in at best
pre production, and Sony's not gonna want to see those
bills coming in with no prospect of revenue coming in
on the other side for half a decade at best greight.
Speaker 2: And I mean it's like on the other side, like
what else do they have cooking in the meanwhile? Fair
games aka breaking now maybe like what's gonna happen? Like
that's not gonna make anyone feel better about this whole
live service thing at Sony.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, I mean, god, I think Sony's
if they haven't explicitly said it yet, but all the
other companies around them have basically said we're not doing
live service anymore.
Speaker 2: We are going to our known IP.
Speaker 1: And you know, you know, I guess we can kind
of talk about that here a little bit, Mike. I've
been kind of floating that theory all week, that like
Sony will go in that direction. But every time I
say that, then I remember people in chat will point
out they close blue point, why would like it? Just
if they're going to go in that direction, it seems
like they have already set themselves up to like be
I guess they still have nixes and they're not doing
the PC ports anymore. Maybe Nix's can do that stuff.
I don't know, Mike, it just doesn't seem like they're
ready to shift in that direction, if that's what they
tend intend to do.
Speaker 2: That was one of the more baffling decisions in recent
memory from Sony closing Town Blue Point. I still have
no idea what the hell they are thinking with that one.
They have so much legacy, I pee so many legacy
kind of you know, classics. They had a studio that
makes great remakes, and they couldn't just have them make
the remakes. Yes, do the thing that was just another studio.
Speaker 3: Wanted to do, like a multiplayer.
Speaker 2: Yeah they were. They were one of the people that
they put on a live service game. Then they cancel it,
just like with Naughty Dog. Orse. They're not going to
shut down Naughty Dog, of course not, but you know,
Ben had the same thing happened to them, and now
we don't know what it's going on over there exactly.
We haven't gone a game from them since Days Gone,
which was a fucking Days Gone feels like so long ago.
We were laughing about Days Gone, and it's like slightly
better than mediocrity bullshit an age ago. It feels like
that was Ben's Studio's last game.
Speaker 1: The game was Studio's fucking gone.
Speaker 2: What the hell is that?
Speaker 1: I mean, that is just a decision of regret that
it just has to be like, oh, that actually was
a mistake. A studio like that would go over so
well right now. A studio like that would be able
to make maybe uh, smooth things over with from a
little better than you're able to because they work directly
with From. Like it's like it's a solution to so
many of the problems that they have, and they do
not have it anymore. And it's just I do think
that they are waking up to this and that they
will get on the other side of like, all right,
what can we do to sort of go back and
find some of those ips from like Japan Studios or
whatever else and bring those back?
Speaker 2: But it's gonna take time, and and.
Speaker 1: The crownd could shift under their feet while that is
happening too, and then suddenly it's like, oh, this this
like a return to some sort of thing that where
we had problems going in one direction so we were
treated well, now there's problems in that direction as well,
because that's just how unstable this industry.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're gonna have to They're almost got to
do what Atari did with Budsy, right, They're gonna I
bet they're gonna be partnering with a lot of other studios,
maybe even some of these kind of bigger indie studios
things like that. Remember like what Nido seems like they
were doing with Cadence of high Roll. I think about
it all the time. So maybe do that, but for real,
for real?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's like other companies have done that,
uh to some success, and I think we can expect
to see a lot of these other companies emulate that,
and maybe we'll be you know, let's set the bar
a little bit higher than that weird god of war
thing that we've gotten not too long ago. Yeah, yeah,
I think so. I think that's right. Uh Okay, let's uh,
let's see here other stuff we did, the Destiny thing,
I guess, Oh, I see here you added the just
straight up the report from Jason Tryer.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Christian.
Speaker 1: Did he say anything else in there worth talking about?
Speaker 2: Uh? Not sure?
Speaker 1: The layoffs, I don't know if you Yeah, it seems
like layofs touch Yes, and yeah, like I said, since
this report came out, I kind of touch base a
little bit, you know, just kind of rumbling still right
now from what I'm hearing, But like I said, could
be a lot like in the north of one hundred
is what it sounds like. It would just be kind
of it would It sounds like it would be devastating
to that studio.
Speaker 3: So I didn't know if you wanted you wanted to
talk about the Capcom Ai thing. I guess I thought
it was.
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean yeah, I mean we can't like a
lot of companies are doing their bullshit with with Ai again,
because what it was is Zubi Soft's like, because there's
earnings happening, Ubi Soft straight up like.
Speaker 1: We're gonna make a jen Ai game. Well yeah, by
March twenty twenty nine. Excuse me, yes, twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 2: What the hell does that mean?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Capcom's like, well, we're not going to make the Jeni
I games, but we're gonna, you know, is the Okai.
I want to be like, you can also shut up
about that?
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, Yes, that that's my point here, Christianly, like
my feeling about it is they position it as being
two different things, it's all going to be the same
thing in the end, because well, yeah, I bet there
are a lot of stuff that is a kin to
speed Tree for development. Uh, the firewall between that and
jen Ai Art will come down the second one of
these big companies proves it works. So Capcom will be
happy to let you be soft blaze a trail and
if it works, Capcom will be right behind them an
hour later. It will be instantaneous. Yeah, right, exactly. They're
just letting someone else take the risk, but they are
waiting to see which is Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean that's what all these companies are doing.
Speaker 3: This is right. You saw that they premiere af film
at Cannes.
Speaker 1: It is this the Steven Soderberg one? Who's who did
this one?
Speaker 2: Or yeah? Or is this is it the weird Revolutionary
War one? By the fucking uh? What's the right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, it's a it's a sci fi experiment. I don't
know who, but what I know is it was made
by a team of fifteen a team of fifteen people.
It costed five thousand, five hundred thousand dollars and it
took two weeks.
Speaker 1: To do it.
Speaker 2: Why would it still cost that The chat, Like what, Okay,
it costs that much because like getting the compute actually
is quite expensive, because it turns out AI is really expensive.
Speaker 1: It takes a lot of energy and a lot of time.
So yeah, it adds up quickly.
Speaker 3: Those tokens or whatever it's called hail grind what Okay,
it doesn't say who it may watching it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: It looks like.
Speaker 2: An absolute fucking nightmare. God damn it. All right, that
does it for the headlines. Well, we'll move on from that.
Speaker 1: But we'll talk about what you all want to talk
about when we get to the super chats right after
another quick break.
Speaker 2: We will be back after this.
Speaker 1: All right, we're back. Let's get into those super chats.
Speaker 2: Please mike their thing Lex laceys my wing for his
fan club is hemorrhaging members. Help.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did see like someone was was skeating about
Lars Wingafers, who is the CEO of the Embracer group.
Oh right, right, right, right, okay, Yeah, I think it's
because of this game developer opinion piece. Lars Wingifers is
out of his mind.
Speaker 2: I didn't see this, I see, I mean, I already
believe it.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh and yeah, I always had a hunch about him.
I'm I think what's happening is I think some anecdotes
are starting to come out about like how out of
his mind he truly is Allegedly I will be reading
this later, but yeah, Lars. I always tried to interview
Lars back when all those acquisitions were happening, and they
never never would bite. They never wanted to do it.
So yeah, here we are, Uh, all right, Mike, what
else did we have?
Speaker 2: Large? Mario says, finally it's time for eight to escape
for I mean, boy, it seems like they could use
some some wins, and uh, that would be a win.
I don't know, everyone would feel good for a moment
at least. I think if they were like Ape of
skates back, I'd be like, oh, I'm happy for a second.
Speaker 1: Right, I mean that's one of those ones like if
they had Japan's studio, it feels like this would have
just happened by now, And because they don't, it's like.
Speaker 2: How does that work? It's like, who means it? They
have to get creative with it, right, yeah? Right? Like
I know, like Tim of Sobey is gonna make Ape
escape before they.
Speaker 1: Make non Maybe I don't know. I means maybe by
I would say no, probably.
Speaker 2: Not, probably not. They probably just want to make Astrobot
to I mean those game of the year, they're want
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won't be able to listen live today. I'm in a
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Speaker 1: I was playing Sports Horizons six today and I was like,
I started, yes, I started seeing your name pop up.
It's like, man, Mike's played a lot of forts a
Horizon six of the masts all yeah, all of a sudden,
I know I has even playing quite a bit at that.
Speaker 2: It's a pretty good. Like I have half an hour here, yeah,
or like when I'm catching up listening to the games mornings, right,
I'll be like, if I'm catching it live, I'll play
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I got my purple wristband.
Speaker 1: Okay, awesome, Yeah that's I mean, god, those showcases. I
still really love them. I mean, I'm glad that they
don't beat you over the head with them, but I
still really like them.
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Speaker 1: Great texts, stand up citizens and adults.
Speaker 2: I appreciate they're doing real well. Absolutely zombie porn says
can't wait for Sean and I Am to dress up
like Jance Pacopia character because Dan, I guess I fun
watching Grougu five times this weekend, Ruble. I did, I looked.
Speaker 1: I did look to see if there were like times
after this, and I'm like, I'm gonna be so tired,
there's no way I'm gonna be able to stay awake
for that.
Speaker 2: So I'll see it this weekend. Maybe I think I'm
gonna see like an earlier showing on yeah, Saturday. I
don't know why. I like, I'm like, so I am
so interested to see what the box office is for it.
Yam me too. It could be surprising either way. It
can be even worse than it just seems like there's
negative hype for this movie to me, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that it's just like kind
of the worst of all worlds in that everyone's like, okay,
either I know these characters from a TV show that
I probably didn't watch all the seasons of, like your brother,
Who's like, well, then I can't see it until I
watch that, and that's not what they want. Or you're
like I did watch all this stuff and I'm kind
of I'm kind of burnt out on it, like I
just don't care anymore, and it's like, yeah, they got
both those things going for them at the same time.
I mean, this was clearly part of a master plan
when like the show hit big pretty early on, and
then in the meantime they blew it with that season
three and everyone kind of moves on. But the movie's
still here. So what do we do? What do we do?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't want to use it
as a pejority of too much, but I just like
this has felt like fan fiction for a while, the
Feloni and fab Ro stuff, and I don't expect this
to feel all that much different.
Speaker 3: This is a Star Wars movie. It should be the
biggest shit like in the year to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really, things up?
Speaker 3: How do you must? It's crazy?
Speaker 1: Yep, alrighty.
Speaker 2: Next one is from drum Kid. It says I bought
a couch on Amazon's this who was one hundred and
fifty dollars cheaper than the name brand counterpart and sold
by a different company over under on if the thing
arriving tomorrow will in any way resemble the photos.
Speaker 1: I've bought some furniture from Amazon before. Yeah, you'll be fine,
and if it doesn't, you get your money back. So
and maybe they won't even ask for it back becau
it's Japan and the ass to return who knows, But yeah,
it'll be fine.
Speaker 2: Okay, report back to us on the condition of the couch. Yeah,
Higgins says, Hey, guys, I'll be traveling to Columbus this
October for the hometown twenty one Pilots on Stadium show,
first time in Ohio. Any great food wellcations?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, hound Dog's Pizza. So if they're doing a
stadium show, I gotta assume it's at the Shoe. It's
got to be the Shoe.
Speaker 2: They played the show already.
Speaker 1: I was there for it because it was the halftime
at halftime the intermission show for the Red Wings Blue
Jackets stadium series thing where they played, and that was
quite fun. Like I'm not some huge twenty one Pilots fan,
but that was a good time. They were the right
band for that show and they did a great job.
So I bet that might have laid the groundwork for it. Yeah,
So go to hound Dogs Pizza like that is added
some good pizza. Make sure they have a bunch of
flavorful crusts. There's like one go to one that I
can't remember right now, but they'll be able to tell
you get that. And then there's Wings Over Columbus, which
is a good wings place. And then there's a Tie
restaurant right next to Wings Over Columbus. Just look up
Tie restaurant and you're gonna find it's gonna be the
one that pops up first.
Speaker 2: So those are the ones I would go to. Go
to Easton and go the Chiefesca factory that was the
first Cheeseca Factor ever went to. Yeah, uh, go to Easton.
Just send us some pictures. I haven't been there. Used
to be a game works there, that Sega Arcade bar
restaurant thing that's cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, God, I wonder what that is now.
Speaker 2: Super Blastic says, thanks for the show tonight. You're welcome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, thanks for hanging out with us.
Speaker 2: James Pie says it's cool. Sword Day gone any quick
Rushmore picks No Buster or Master too easy, Big rounds
better anyway. Lightsabers are Goku's Let's go Nix. So we're
doing video games, so I can't do like Glame Dring
or Sting from Lord of the Rings either. I guess
those are those definitely a Goku huge Goku. Yeah. Key
Blade is good though, Blade.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm before key Blade. I think the key
Blade is actually cool. Yeah, nothing gets key Blade or
really any of the presentation stuff or like the story
stuff for for that's never been my issue.
Speaker 2: I like that stuff quite a bit.
Speaker 1: All right, key Blade, what's what's uh the Witcher Store,
it's a Goku ship?
Speaker 2: All right, that's right, Okay, we can't do Buster Sword.
But the gun Blade from eight is also real. Oh yeah,
there you go. All right, that's the way you get
around it.
Speaker 3: Awesome from from the Ivy Whipsword from so.
Speaker 2: I well, I would just say that. I would maybe
just say the soul Edge then like soul Edge at
that point.
Speaker 1: And then and then actually the Master Sword. So sorry,
you could say we can't get anyway, we can't get anyways,
all right?
Speaker 2: Next up his Big Fresh Ever gets sick of doing
news shows when the news is always a fucking nightmare.
At least we got crazy Taxi coming.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean sometimes I don't get sick of like
talking about the news necessarily. I do, like, if I'm
doing the same story on three different shows throughout the week,
it definitely gets a little bit. Mostly I get sick
of hearing my own voice. At a certain point, I'm like, oh,
why am I the like always the one talking about this.
Speaker 2: It's I made this my job, so of course that's
what's happening.
Speaker 1: But I do enjoy like being I do all these
shows live when I'm discussing the news, and I could
see like chat responding to stuff and we we're almost
having a dialogue, and that stuff like helps me process
what's going on in video games, which I deeply care about.
So yeah, no, it's pretty much like, Oh, I like
doing this. I like hanging out with y'all. I like
talking about these things, so let's see if we can
figure out what's going on. And then if anything, it's like, oh,
it's nice to go and take like voicemail, dump truck
off because I can stop talking for a little bit.
Speaker 2: Armani cole Min says, I can't wait for Double seven
First Light four days and thirteen hours. For me, the
combat looks fun. I just hope the fs will be good.
God true? Is that really four days? I gotta reach out, yeah,
say wait, wait, you need to check the access things.
Even if it is like yeah, that's pretty soon soon,
that's like less than a week.
Speaker 1: Geez. Yeah, any word on review copies.
Speaker 2: All right, there we go. All right, that's it. Off
to keep going, Mike, yep, Okay. Next up is g
Nitro Sonny spending more time laying people off in closing
studios than releasing games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're gonna have that state of play.
We're gonna talk about it here in a little bit.
I mean they're gonna have They're gonna have to come
with quite a bit there. I'm not expecting the world,
but I'm expecting some stuff to be like, all right,
let's wash some bad tastes out of our mouth. Let's
uh show that the PS five is gonna be exciting
through the next couple of years because a lot of
people are going to buy it for GTA six and
here's what we can promise them.
Speaker 2: Next up is gen Nitro Lincoln member, thank you so
much as Sonny. So that's what I just read. Next
up is Travis ooh wu it says Bungee should just
make a new kill Zone game. That'd be funny, be disgusting.
Looks it's incestuous. It's all not even know the word,
but it's just weird that exactly. It's unnatural. Yep. Yeah,
But I I kind of like it. I don't know,
let's you just do either. I wish they could make
just a single player campaign game, if in the Destiny universe,
or just do something else. I still wish ideally.
Speaker 3: Were like kind of the best part of Destiny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that could just kind of be a single
player game. I don't know, but that's not where we
are now. Uh. Next up is, mactators, do you think
Triple A developers will ever get back to a point
where they can make a game in three to four years? Again, well, sure,
as soon as they all adopt a EE, stop being
so scared of it and tap its true potential to
open up their prea kind of outlooks. What the fuck
do they say? I don't know. Well, yeah, I got it,
it's close enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, why do games start taking so long in
the first place? I think is a question that we
discuss every once in a while, But I think we
usually just say, yeah, assets got so big, and and
the world's got so detailed, and well why the world
get so detailed? It's because, well, the other game that
I'm competing against got so detailed, and so I needed
to spend more time on my game. So that it
can out compete that game, and that is not really
going to go away. And video games are still much
are still very mired in this idea of you stand
out through technology, you stand out through just wowing people
with the visuals, and and the way you do that
is time and money. And that's that's not going to
change no matter how many AI tools you get, because
if you have those AI tools, everyone else is going
to have them. So the person that spends longer using
those tools or whatever the fuck else to make their
game bigger and better is gonna make a bigger and
better game than you. Still, so nothing's going to change
about the original reason why games took so long. And
uh yeah, so I don't think so.
Speaker 3: You gotta be you gotta be premier media, brother, You
gotta look like a fucking movie every single time. Otherwise
he's sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, otherwise you'll get up in a kind of funny
chat and complain about apparently sorry. Yeah. Next, it's uh
de Nitro says, with Embracer looking for third party death
to contract out their high piece to which of their
dormant franchises do you most want to see a new
game of? Gosh, it's so hard to be like what
Embracer owns so many things, and they had things.
Speaker 1: They did have that list that they said this week
Mike of like games if you like, if you're googling it,
it was like, oh, the the IP they planned to activate,
I think was the phrase. And the one that was
at the top of the list I think for most
people was Deus X. That is the one that most
people are like, Yeah, I want that back. I would
love that. I would love to see a new time
Splitters that. It's another one that they mentioned and I
cannot remember. I cannot remember like the other ones that
they say.
Speaker 2: I mean I remember it because they're having the Gingham
come people, they're making a game. They're also making Lord
of the Rings game, which yes, oh yeah, that's actually
makes sense at least Red Faction, okare we go? So yeah, yeah,
Rad Faction, Right Saints Row, Legacy of Kane, diss X,
Red Faction, the Mask, Thief, Time Splitters. Almost all of
these sound great. I think Thief is one that it
just seems so cool. I think that'd be awesome see
that bag. Red Faction Also, if we can have like
a really destruction based Red Faction.
Speaker 1: Right imagine like the technology today doing that stuff. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
but all that stuff is like them them like licensing
that out to partners though, kind of doing the war
frame not warframe Warhammer style stuff. So we'll see how
that goes, because again, there's only so many developers out there.
Speaker 2: Zombie Porn says, any good grub games recently, you know
the type of games where you drive a huge truck
to move dirt from one pile dirt to a bigger
pile dirt.
Speaker 1: I have been getting the craving to go back to
that Dockers game, the game about running a like a
shipping dock.
Speaker 2: Oh shut, yeah, right right, I remember you played that.
Lo's cool.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was thinking like, can I get like a
big dumb controller to do that with and maybe maybe
decorate the office a little bit and wear some wear
some gear like I'm on a dock and maybe do
a couple of fun streams that way. I'm thinking about it.
I want to go back. I love those those games.
A ton there is in that studio. Saber is releasing
their straight up trucking game. There's their road trucking game.
They've done a bunch of like off road sort of
rebuild a city sort of thing on these dirt roads
games a bunch. This will be the first one that's
like American Truck simulator and has an RPG sort of
campaign in it, and I'm very curious about that, really
looking forward to that one.
Speaker 2: Next up is Dirk Digglet, what's up with prices on
retro games at conventions? That a moment con today everything
was marked up twenty percent from eve A Soul prices
Bomo x pla like patient was at the Cleveland Gaming Classic.
When I've been to things, I've usually been around that
price charting price generally, and I hate it too, but
a lot of times, like you can you can haggle
that twenty percent off from these people, especially if you're
buying like more than one thing out of the Yeah. Typically,
Like I hate that too. Just tell me what it
should actually cost and I'll pay it. I know. I've
had pretty decent experiences personally with with the prices that
these things, but I haven't been to a Momo con. Yeah,
And I think that's what I would do.
Speaker 1: It's like buy multiple things from one vendor if multiple
things catch your eye and be like ask for it
to bulk discount. That makes it go down a little
bit easier for me, because I also don't like haggling.
But I'll be like, look, I'm getting these three things,
why don't we call it an even blank And they'll
usually work with you on that.
Speaker 3: You will pretty well in Argentina because haggling, he's kinda
from the point here. We don't do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Boston.
Speaker 2: The next up is Big Fresh thirty sevens is Destiny's
final expansion with Star Wars. Filoni claims another victim, God,
I forgot about that Star Wars crossing. That done a
lot good for them, two franchises at the top of
their peak. Destiny is Star Wars.
Speaker 1: Two great flavors to go great together.
Speaker 2: Oh that's rough. Oh man, oh boy.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Jason Vanoic says Mike. The Guardians are in Philly for
three games this weekend. Who are the players that should
be paying attention to? Not many Tigers talk about the
moment except McGonagall. Mcgonaga is a Philly guy. McGonagall. It's like,
I just keep seeing the Harry Potter character. Huh, I
know that, And that's exactly how the name is said too.
Speaker 1: He's a rookie of the Year candidate, although he'll probably
lose it out to that White Sox guy. Yeah, the
Guardians have been beating the ship out of the Tigers
all week, Mike, so congratulations on that as well.
Speaker 2: We keep showing you up. I haven't looked at the
cast score yet today. I just realized, Ye afraid, I
still think they're gonna just lose that entire Oh they're
getting creamed. Okay, so far, so good. I said, once
they blew that game, they're done. And you're like, it
was the first game. I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, you you blow it that bad, You're just
I think you're emotionally done right. I mean they're probably
like a bit wiped out right, just from those.
Speaker 2: First two Game seven then that disheartening loss there. I
think they're toast. Uh. Jose Ramirez is kind of our
big long term star, so definitely you know what, what's that? Yeah,
third basement Jose Ramirez? We love him. You got a
couple of fun younger guys this year. Chase the latter
is great, as is a Schneeman, which is fun to say. Schneeman,
you still have that fucking terminator for the closer. I
don't think so. If the one guy was our one
closer was a hit up on gambling things.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, no, I know they dropped him, but there
was You guys had a relief pitcher who is just terrifying.
And I think he got moved up to closer and
maybe he's not doing as well as a closer as
he was before. I don't know, uh, but uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lots of uh Stephen Kwan, what's lots of fun
names to say, like Rochio, Manzarto, Schneeman.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Finelle, if if Stephen Kwan starts hitting your
your team's gonna be in for a bad time. That's
that's that's always my barometer. If he's going, the rest
of the team's are going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been doing they were like they had a
hot start, then they're kind of middling for a little bit,
and then they've been they've been doing pretty good lately. Again.
Speaker 1: So the Tigers have been eating ship. So you're welcome
there you go.
Speaker 2: Uh, Pokey says, did you guys know that you can
taste salt in food? So excited when he said that one,
I was like, I gotta bank this one. Got to
bank this one on my mind. Next time. People are
like Mike over shares about his weird things with some food. Yeah,
I uh man, salt. Salt's real good and I taste
it and everything like did you know soy sauce is
a salt in it?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean like some and like everything kind
of does have salt in it. So it's like at
a certain plant, so not like everything like you know,
cake cass salt in it and all kinds of other
baked goods. Well, when we talk about salty food, there's
a reason that it's called salty food.
Speaker 2: That's good. I enjoyed it. That's it for the Super
Tits R. Now, thank you so much everybody. If you're listening,
you still want to send in a super chat Avis
read it. We'll get back to these right before the
end of the show so it will still be read
on the air. Thank you so much everyone.
Speaker 1: Thanks everyone, Thank you Mike. We're going to take another
break when we come back. Let's talk about that state
of play we're gonna be buying and selling. We'll explain
it when we get back after this. All right, let's
get into our segment for tonight. We're gonna be playing
just a small little game buy and sell State of
Play Edition. The way this works is and if you've
seen there's similar segments on part of the Interruption.
Speaker 2: And the now long Gone.
Speaker 1: At this point, we're gone for a year around the
Horn on ESPN shows I grew up on. This is
the idea here is, We're gonna have Christian give us
one of these names that could be at the State
of Play, whether it's a game name or a studio name,
and then me and Mike will alternate saying whether we're
buying or selling, buying being buying, it's gonna be there.
I believe in this selling being like no, and then
we'll explain it in a couple of sentence, is why
we feel that way. So why don't we get started?
Go ahead and take it away.
Speaker 3: Christian, all right, let's start the buy selling State of
Play edition whatever whatever you want to call it, Entarialactic
the heretic Profit by yourself.
Speaker 2: I'll go you first, Yeah, Joy, I'll go first. Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm I think I am going to sell Intergalactic the
Heretic Profit because I think that that game is coming
in the next couple of years, and a trailer could
certainly show up here, but I feel like they are
gonna let that team continue to work on it and
let them or and then ask them to make an
asset sometime next year for its release, maybe Holiday twenty
twenty seven. So like they've already done the one the
one trailer, another trailer at this point doesn't go that far,
and I don't think they want to do like a
gameplay reveal at this point. They'll hold out on that
for now.
Speaker 2: What do you think? Like, Yeah, I think that's right.
Like there are a couple of state of plays where
are like Where's Wolverine that's supposed to be kind of
like the next big game, and it's like, ah, they're
gonna wait. Actually you get to reveal and then you
have to wait a while closer to release when you
really see that thing again. Sometimes so even though it
feels like it's been a while so we heard from
this game, they're probably still down the trenches on it.
A Naughty Dog more so than other studios kind of
it can be like we're we're not gonna waste time
preparing an asset for you. We're gonna we're making the
game right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a yeah, I think Wolverine's a really good
upright point.
Speaker 3: Of who from the Boys here the next one? Mike,
do you buy or sell Resistance? No?
Speaker 2: I mean, and this goes for a lot of things.
Who's making that game? I mean, Insomniac has a lot
of projects going on at any time. So if anybody
like has a surprise sixth team working on our Resistance remake,
maybe maybe it could be them, Like what is that?
Do you just remake that first game? Because I'll tell
you one thing, I'm not sensing a lot of excitement
for even the Halo one remake that's coming out, and
it's like, boy, good luck with your Resistance remake. And
I don't know, I've always underestimated Resistance's popularity and staying
power a bit personally, and that might just be a
me thing, But I don't know. If that's the first
thing they go back to to bring back is Resistance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm selling this as well. I just think that
of the of like there's that's a pretty high tier
Sony PlayStation property, and I think there's a handful of those.
I don't think Resistance is the one that is the
easiest to figure out. I think that is one that
they do need to really take the time to figure
out who's making that whereas, and they would want to
make it a game, a multiplayer game that could last,
where something like Infamous would we'll talk about here in
a second, that would be very different. So yeah, I'm
selling that.
Speaker 3: One, all right, all right, right, and to the next
one then, or are you a chef? Do you buy
Ben's Studio or do you sell?
Speaker 1: Okay, Ben's Studio showing up to the state of play,
I'm it still feels like it's probably too early for
whatever they're working on to show up, So I'm gonna
go with sell for this one as well. I just
think that Ben's Studio is they are reeling from that
period where every studio did have to go to PlayStation
and say, here's our live service pitch, here's how it
makes sense. And I think that the last thing I remember,
I think their thing did get canceled or never approved
or something like that. So I think they'll show up
in the next year or so with something, but it's
probably too early, Mike, Yeah, because.
Speaker 2: It was just twenty twenty five that they said they
were canceling that live service game. Whatever the heck they
pivoted to, just too early. I don't think we're seeing
anything from Bend yet?
Speaker 3: All right, do so so far? Old cell, so far? Okay,
next one for you, Mike Infamous Infamous.
Speaker 2: Uh, Jordan Miller was saying some stuff about this not
too long ago. I believe in that. But it's like,
I think, maybe there's something happening with Infamous. Is it
showing up year? Wait, there's a partments to say, bis
because it's been so many cells in a row, and
if somebody's hearing about it, it's usually maybe far enough
along that you know, who knows. Maybe it's something like
we just saw a Virtue fighter. Maybe there's an asset
out there somewhere. I'll say, I'll say bye on this one.
I gotta say by. I think Infamus comes back before Resistance,
that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, That's where I'm at as well. I'm a very
light by on this one. I think that there's a
possibility that this is the kind of game where, even
if it is very early, they they pop the like
a JPEG up, they pop a PNG up and say, hey,
we're working on this, we're figuring this out and uncture
with Sucker Punch, but in our partner studio Blank is
actually making this game. Maybe not a partner studio, could
be an internal studio. Who knows, but it's yeah. I
think that that could this that could happen for this
in the same way that like the God of War
trilogy remakes. Master then got announced. So I'm gonna go
very late by.
Speaker 3: All Right, all right, we got we got the first
buy for the both of the boys, and the next
one for you chef. Where you go first, astro do
you buy yourself?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I like for this one, I'm gonna say by because
I think that they will mention Astrobot in some capacity,
whether that is a new levels or something, or like
a full DLC, I don't know. I think they will
bring up Astrobot. I think they want to make Astrobot
something that is commonly associated with Hey, Sony's got something
going on. I can't wait to see what they're doing
with Astrobot. I think they want to raise it to
that level. All right, we.
Speaker 2: Would you Mike see, but they're not doing the PC
ports anymore like maybe though Anno's the PC report. They
they both have added a lot to Astrobot already. Maybe
they'll add more, but I almost like the boy, they've
added a lot. You know, I don't think so, I
don't think. I think they're a little bit done with
the DLC stuff. And I don't think it's time to
talk about Astrobot too. I think Astrobot's taking this summer off.
Speaker 3: Okay, we gotta we gotta sell from Mike in a
buy from Chef for astro What Mike, how about Bloodborne?
Do you buy it yourself?
Speaker 2: Well, I gotta believe my buddy Jeff Grub when he
says nothing sad like that. It's it's the cell that
should be a bye, that's for sure. But it just
seems like they can't get that going. Maybe they'll talk
about the movie. I don't know, but I just sell,
uh yeah, sell for everything that he said.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I don't think anybody is buying that one
from from the Foreseeable Future. Ain't nobody buying that one?
How about Tima Solby Chef, what do you what do
you think?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so this would be like Tema Soby separate
from astrobob nonstsobe Yeah, I'm gonna yeah, Look, I basically
I'm gonna say, well, let's say they could include Astrovibe,
so obviously i'd be by. But I will include there
that I think that there's a possibility that I'm like
fifty to fifty between it could be something Astrobot mentioned
or Timasobe does begin to talk talk about their new thing.
I think that studio is supposed to be designed to
get stuff done relatively quickly, to have something that could
pop up like a year from now, Like, how likely
is that to actually be executed in that way?
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a Temasobe shows up in some capacity, Right,
how about you, Mike?
Speaker 2: I think it's too early, so one more year at
least before we hear about their next thing. It's been
just a couple of years since Astrobot came out. Uh
Astra's play round twenty twenty Astrobot twenty twenty four. Let's
say the next thing twenty twenty eight. To be generous,
we're not gonna hear about it quite yet.
Speaker 3: All right, we got to buy and no sell? Okay, Chef,
please kill some You gotta give meself some hope. Brother,
do you buy all yourself?
Speaker 1: Should just be mine?
Speaker 2: Yeah? This is Mike.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, I'm sorry, Mike. How about you come on?
Don't play with my.
Speaker 2: Heart, big sel, because no one cares about kill Zone.
Everybody's like those games were bad. Okay, no, kill Zone's fine.
But I I think that uh, Gorilla Games is just
super deep into the Horizon minds still, and I don't
think any I don't think they're gonna be excited about
pitching remakes or collections of old kill Zone games. I
don't think that's gonna do anything for many people to sell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm gonna sell as well, but I
will be a little bit less surprised than Mike if
they show up with like a collection or something like that.
Speaker 3: But I'm still sell all right, we got two cell
sort of on my heart aches, but next one is
for Chef. Do we see any Uncharted?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I I think that they are probably getting serious
about Uncharted again. That is kind of the sense I
get when I talk to people. But if it's happening,
it's years off. So I am, well, I'm selling like
I wouldn't be sports to they try to. Yeah, I'm selling,
but I they got to try to figure out a
way to keep people caring about Uncharted. Maybe they come
up with something in between whatever next to the next
game would be. But yeah, I'm selling for now because
I just think it's too early.
Speaker 2: Oh, Mike, hmmm, that's been a while. It is so long.
Speaker 1: It's just is it time for like an Uncharted one remake?
Speaker 2: I don't, boy, I don't see why the hell not? Yeah,
but I also don't see like why you don't have
Blue Point make it. But maybe there was a team
out Night Dog, maybe they found some other studio. But
even if not that something, it's been so give me
something Uncharted. I'm gonna I'm gonna buy it. I'm I
think my boy Nathan Drake is showing up.
Speaker 1: I think if it does show up, the pop for
it will be like, oh yeah, uncharted.
Speaker 2: I think yeah. I think it's been a rockers like
it was the big it was a huge thing. Then
like some people are kind of turning on it after four.
I go over it and I think it's crested again.
So we miss Uncharted.
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, we got we got a selling a
buy Mike, how about you? So com boy?
Speaker 2: So come as a bit of that problem with destiny,
like making a So Calm game today, that'll be expensive.
Who the hell is gonna do that? And they're not
gonna just like make a So Calm collection? What that was.
I was like, no, I don't know if Socomb ever
comes back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a hard sell on so Cam as well.
Some of these I included just to break people's heart
and I know that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 3: Just that's just man, all right until the next one.
We got two cells for so Com So this you
buy or the you sell Chef. I wanted to say,
you sorry.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, is this one?
Speaker 2: Is this one? Mike?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: This one's you Okay, so one's being okay.
Speaker 1: Fire Sprite is not the one that closed down right,
That was fire This was just the.
Speaker 2: One that had like the crunch accusations and whatnot. They
made Horizon Call of the Mountain, right, and that uh,
that is several years ago.
Speaker 1: Now, I I'm gonna buy fire Sprite showing up here.
I think that they tease their game as like some
other stuff gets off of Sony's table finally and they're like, okay,
we can reload things a little bit. I think this
is gonna be a substantial, uh sort of state of
play for that kind of thing.
Speaker 3: All right, it's all right, Mike.
Speaker 2: This was this This was the studio that was doing
the Twisted Metal at one point, right, yeah. At one
point they were doing a version of Twisted Metal. Yes,
I like they rebooted that because somebody has gotta be
making a twist and metal.
Speaker 1: You would think, Hey, Twisted Metals is two from here,
so you gonna just do that. Now I'm selling twisted Metal.
You want to buy twisted Metal. I'm gonna buy fire
Spread for now. Then we'll see about twisted Metal. I'll
buy fire Spread for now.
Speaker 3: Okay, you we should jumping to twist the medal then?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, do it?
Speaker 2: Sure, Mike, do you buy it?
Speaker 3: Do you sell Twisted Metal?
Speaker 1: It's so weird because is there gonna be a season
three of that show?
Speaker 2: I know people like season one. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I haven't paid, I really don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Man again, it's like, how's that had not happened already?
Who the hell's gonna make it? I guess fire Spread
is still making Sure I buy Twisted Metal. But you
know they this should be the Star Fox sixty fourth thing.
Just do the obvious thing. And they Twisted Metal two again,
like that's all we want. Just do that.
Speaker 3: I imagine if they had a studio that will just
do remix.
Speaker 2: All the time remake games, it's impossible.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sell I just I feel like they try
to bunch it. They tried twice, like there was like
the fire Spread version in some live service version. Maybe
there was a live service, but I know they tried,
and both of them seem to crash and burn. And
I bet that tastes is like stole in their mouth
a little bit, and they they're not ready to go back.
Speaker 2: To it yet.
Speaker 3: Speaking of about taste in my mouth, Marathon Chef, do
you buy your to yourself?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I bind that Marathon will show up in some form there.
I think it's super important that they try to take
every opportunity to rye remind people about that game and
get them excited about the future of it. It won't
be I don't think it'll be too substantial because Budgie
does like to talk about things on their own, but
who knows. Maybe that's changing as all this other stuff
is changing around Bungie. So I'm buying, Okay, is my Mike?
Speaker 2: Do you buy? They're gonna talk about Marathon a bit
here one way er than another. They're gonna remind people
this exist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they will definitely talk about it. Because the season
is starting. They like they are wiping the game like
every extracting shooter and happening right as this, like right
around this time, So they're most likely going to talk
about the new stuff on that game for sure. Okay,
we got two buys for Monaton. How about fair Games? Mike,
what do you think you buy? You?
Speaker 2: I mean breaking this game game that has been renamed,
and it's been renamed sounds like it's ready to be
re revealed, and I imagine that's gonna happen here. They're
gonna probably try to have a better sells pitch for this.
I don't know how much that will help, but yeah,
well we'll see what has become a Fair Games at
this thing. All right.
Speaker 1: I'm with Mike. I think this is it's gotta be now,
you know. I say that like if it's not now,
I'm gonna say the exact same thing about the next
stay to play. It's gotta be now for fair Games.
When does this thing reappear, it probably is going to
be renamed to break In. They will probably re reveal it.
So yeah, I'm a buyer.
Speaker 3: All right, who got two buys for fair Games? So
break break In or whatever, the name is now. I
was laughing before the next one because this is just mean,
This is just mean to me. Chef. Do you buy
or do you sell Concord?
Speaker 1: I'm buying Christian, I'm all in a concord.
Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry. Yeah again.
Speaker 1: And the one that Woul just kind of put in
there for fun. Uh yeah, it's a that's a cell
concord is never going to re emerge. I don't think
that is. That wound is too deep. It hurts Sony
too much.
Speaker 2: All right, Mike, Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, of course, of course.
Speaker 3: All right, moving No, Mike, do you buy your cell
sly Cooper?
Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I feel like I feel like
sly Cooper is not happening before Jack and Dexter, right, Uh,
who's doing that? Not Sucker Punch. They're they're again very
busy with right uh ghost game? So no, no, no, sorry, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Infamous is the one that we were just talking about,
like that's the one that's got words going around out
there that maybe there's rumors, right, there's nothing like that
for sly Cooper. I don't think they're gonna do a
suite of those kinds of things they're gonna do like
one here and there. So if Infamous is getting that treatment,
I'm gonna say, sly Cooper is a cell.
Speaker 3: All right, we got two cells for sly Cooper. I
like those guys who were good games. I hope they
bring them back. Oh yeah, all right, now, Chef Horison
by yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna buy, but I want to be clear
that I'm buying. And I think it's gonna exclusively be
that multiplayer one because that's gonna be happening soon. So
they got to talk about that again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guess because of that. Just part of me.
It's like you always say Horizon gonna be at these things.
It has been so much of it. I wonder if
even they are like guys or we maybe really exhausting
people with Horizon. But there's this game that do you
have to talk about it a little bit at least?
So yeah, I guess I buy Horizon being there.
Speaker 3: All right. Two buys, Mike you you you named this earlier,
like like a minute ago. Check on this star? Do
you buy your yourself?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Boy, gosh, a remake of at least Jack one would
hit so hard. I feel like the Crash and Spiral
remixed it so well, this one is a good well
I don't know why, but again, who's gonna make it?
But it's for Bob is over And even though they're independent,
now they're working with Xbox.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're almost certainly doing that spiral game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again I don't think I don't I don't know.
I don't think Naughty Dog's working on Jack and Daxter.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 2: This was one of the ones that Blue Point Pitch
was a Jack and Dexter remake, and they said no,
so gosh, I want to buy this one, but I
just I don't think yet. I don't think we're seeing
Jack and Dexter yet.
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, yeah, I'm selling.
Speaker 1: I'm selling too. And it's like a sell out of
protest of like this one they need to figure out,
they need to figure out Jack and Daxter. They deliver
all this other shit and Jack and Daxter all the
other ship begins to look a little bit better because
now it's an alternative to Jack and Daxter. It's this
game that, like, I think people so strongly associate with
the best times in the life of the PlayStation that
it would go very a very long way toward making
people feel better about that system.
Speaker 3: All right, another cell, I'm gonna skip to Ratchen and
Klang Chef. Do you do you buy your yourself because
kind of related.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm selling a ratchet and clink for this
state of play. I don't think it shows up here.
I think they're gonna have another Ratchet Clink at some point,
not yet.
Speaker 3: All right, Mike, do you buy yoursel Rochard and clank?
Speaker 2: When there was that leak at Insomniac, they had a
timeline and ratcha clink was on there. That's true. I wish,
I wish I can remember where it was. They're gonna
go back to it eventually. They are definitely, you know,
used to be get multiple Ratchet clinkings each console generation.
It's obviously slowed down, but it's been a bit since
Rift Apart. Now that was gosh, almost five years ago,
h five years next month, so.
Speaker 1: It's been a bit.
Speaker 2: But that feels right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Soniac very busy with.
Speaker 2: The superhero stuff. Uh obviously Wolverine priority and then Spider
Man three or Venom whatever that. I think.
Speaker 1: I think that I think that's a once a once
a console generation game now, and I'm okay with that.
I think they do one Ratchet and Clink per generation. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think like sometime the next couple of years we
will hear about ratching clink again?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe there's it's weird because this one's weird.
Speaker 2: Because do you do you remake.
Speaker 1: Ratchat cquak one? Because they kind of did.
Speaker 2: But not really with that, right, Yeah, it's like you
just remake going going Commando up your arsenal? I'd like that?
Is it confusing? I don't think quite yet. I hope
so I would. I wish I'd be wrong. I love
ratcheting Clink, but I don't think quite yet.
Speaker 3: So all right, we got another cell. I'm gonna go
back a little bit. Mike called a ward. Do you
buy you to your cell?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gotta be something. I mean, there's the trilogy,
uh remakes that they talked about, so parme also doesn't
expect to see much more there. I'm like talking, am
I talking myout this? Now there's the the Santa Monica
rumored game is a God of War spin off, right, yes,
starring Fae. Yes boy, maybe we maybe we see that
tease finally at least, right, there's so much God of
War at all times. It's a bit like Horizon you
kind of can it's safe to buy, So I'm gonna
play it safe.
Speaker 3: I'll buy some kind of God that's a safe buye
for for Mikey. How about you, Chev?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm a buye. I think I think it
makes sense. You know, God of War is one of
their most beloved franchises there. This isn't gonna be it's
it's you know, spin off in a really strong way.
Apparently it's like supposed to feel completely new while also
still being in that universe or whatever, but that it
still feels like something that can get people like going
and getting excited. Of course, there could be backlash if
it's starting a character that's not Krados.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that. That'll be great. Uh.
Speaker 1: But it is the kind of thing where it's like, hey,
I I'm gonna get a p S six for a
PS five excuse me for Grand Theft Auto six this holiday,
and look at all this other stuff that's going to
be coming next year or the year after that. I
think that really tells that story very well. So yeah,
I'm buying God of War because it just makes sense
to show up here that Fay game in particular.
Speaker 3: All right, cool, we got two buys for God of
War and Nex. Do we see a chef? Do we
see Venom any Venom?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, I'm selling on Venom, but uh, not for
long I will. I think I'm gonna be buying Venom
again here soon, but for this state of play, I
am selling. I don't think that they are going to
have both Wolverine and Venom in a state of play.
They've done something similar before, right, I think they had
Spider Man and Wolverine in a one a state of
play or showcaser before. I don't think they're gonna do
that again. I don't think that means like, oh, that's
how they just do it from now on.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, I think that's right. I don't think
we're gonna hear about Venom or if for some reason
it's not ven anymore, it's just Spider Man three. I
think they're gonna wait to Wolverines out, or at least
closer to being out.
Speaker 3: Ye, all right, two cells for Venom. No, we're not
going to see how many inches of venom?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Elsey, eighteen inches of venom or something? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, too many all right, Mike, final fun to see
seven par three by yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this one's showing. I think it's specifically
showing up at Sony's thing. And I know that they've
talked a lot about wanting to make these games a
bit more multi platform, but they're still partners with Sony
and these things have been established with them quite a bit.
It feels like time. I think there's even like there's
some scuttle It feels like yeah, and I'm super ready
for it, very excited for it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to sell.
Speaker 1: I think that this game shows up at the at
the Akihlei event Summer Game Fest, because the exact reason
that you said, Mike, Like, oh, they had that deal.
Speaker 2: I know that's done.
Speaker 1: But I think they want to make it very clear
from the jump that this game is going to be
in as many places as they can get it ready for.
And I think they think it'll help them if they're
in the queue thing and they don't have to just
show a PlayStation logo during their first revealed trailer for
this game.
Speaker 2: What's first, this or the Kili thing say to place
this is this is first?
Speaker 1: And then things like almost four or five days later
something like that.
Speaker 2: It's definitely be at both. It's just like it doesn't
a matter which one it's at first. Is that an
important statement? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, I mean I I yes, I think you're right.
I think maybe the most likely scenarios it's at both.
But I'm gonna go sell still and just say, like
if I were them, I would just go to the
Kili one and and make it because Killey would have
that in there for free and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 3: All right, what else we got here? One last one? Chef?
Speaker 2: Do you have you in your hand? Do you buy
your always?
Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, I don't want to know that. Actually, do
you buy your know how for?
Speaker 1: I'll buy I'm buying Kingdom Hearts for. I think it
shows up here.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, the Fable and Noble christal Les continue to live,
so on, how about you, Mike.
Speaker 2: It's got to show up again eventually. Man, it has
been a long time, and it's not like the game's
vapor where it's never coming out. It is going to
come out. They've been working on it. There's something going on. Yeah,
it's a little weird because would they do play seven
Part three Ancheing the Marks four. Yeah, they would, they
would have both of those. Yeah, screw it up with
Jeff's buying.
Speaker 1: I'm buying.
Speaker 3: There we go and say the last one for Kim
Nohart's four. We got two buys, so you're definitely going
to show up, always.
Speaker 2: Starting to show Yeah, that's you. Yeah, it's guaranteed. That's
what that means. Two thumbs up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we finished the buyer sale. Unless you guys have
one more that you want to like it comes to mind,
chap throw them out, chat, Yes, we'll pick some.
Speaker 1: Yeah. When I was doing this, I was mostly focused
on first party. Uh, and then we added a couple
of potential third parties there at the at the end.
Speaker 2: Uh So if you have any other third parties you
want to mention?
Speaker 1: Okay, Annie Musha release dates, says Jason Finelli, Are you
buying or selling that?
Speaker 2: Mike Capcom usually does a lot of Kiley stuff. They
might show up here, but I.
Speaker 1: Think was the first of people requiem.
Speaker 2: That's the closer last year at Summer game Fest. So
if we're hoping for Resident Evil Maronnie Musha almost certainly
and like next the next season of street Fighter stuff,
I'm expecting a lot of that at Kihlee thing. Let's see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna buy. I'm gonna buy. Yeah,
I think I think cap I think Capcom's everything, so
I think they'll buy if it's just because if this
one's first, it'll be here and then it will also
be in the Kili thing.
Speaker 2: Uh. Some people saying drive in Quests twelve, that one,
I think No, I think that one is still a
little bit off. I'm still they announced that there's a
dragon Quest direct happening or something, right, there's some separate
thing going on soon where I bet they're going to
announce maybe a couple more of the he makes maybe
Dragon Quest for HD two D, maybe one of the
slightly later games getting a seventh Style reimagined or other
remake like eight or nine. But somehow twelve still feels
like a little bit away for the Dragon Quest to
wrect soon. All right, for yeah, I'm selling as well.
Speaker 3: Okay, do so for Drown Quest the twelfth one?
Speaker 2: Do one more Christian, you pick one more, one more?
Speaker 3: Let's see. No, I don't think Cold Run. You know,
none of these guys are gonna buy Reach.
Speaker 1: No, Racer, Noy aren't doing any of the Highway, the
Highway races in four rations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't get Ridge Racer from that
as much as I get those Tokyo Extreme Racing games
from it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's more that.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: It just reminded me the first stage in Bridge Racer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just part of me. It's like, look if it
look if we have to make Ridge Racer open world again,
a new Ridge Racer, let's just fucking do it. Yeah,
whatever whatever it takes. All right, you gotta have a
whole radio station that's just the Ridge Racer type for soundtrack.
Speaker 3: Let's go, all right, last one, Chef crazy Taxi, you
by yourself?
Speaker 1: Oh okay. Yeah, So they're they're teasing that. So the question,
I think the question is does that show up at
the PlayStation state of play or does it show up
at the Kili thing or both?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna buy that for uh the state of play. Yeah,
that's that's a good one that I think that probably
shows up there.
Speaker 3: How about you, Mike.
Speaker 2: So she's they're teasing it already, it feels like sooner
out of the later. Yeah, I bet Sega's gonna spread
their announcements out of it because, like Capcom, I think
that they are primed to have a pretty big summer here.
I think they're gonna have a lot of things to
talk about. I'm excited for Sega's offerings. Yeah, I think
we'll see taxie and I'll tell you what that trailer
If it doesn't have offspring, what do we even do it?
You gotta pay that money. I don't care what they
want for that song. You fucking pay it. Yes, it's
been buttered.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, thank you Christian.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I have.
Speaker 3: To say I kept a track over everything. So we're
gonna we're gonna check back once this happens, and okay,
we we'll see who wins. We goes, we go to
I didn't know that got the in competition in this book. Otherway,
what's right? It doesn't get mad.
Speaker 2: You have no idea how often I've been looking at
rag Matta's Open Critics score at eighty seven forever, which
is what I predicted, then dip down to eighty six.
Somehow got what did I predict? I don't know. I
hope you. I hope you took the over, but I'm
worried you took the under. You probably said eighty six.
Speaker 1: Much I feel like I said the over, so you
might be all right. All right, fantastic, Thank you for that,
for the help there, Christian, thank you for all these
suggestions in chat. Let us know you you like that segment.
I thought that was a pretty good way to talk
about a bunch of games really fast and talk about
the state of play in a way that was a
little bit more entertaining by you guys.
Speaker 2: Let us know.
Speaker 1: All right, let's see here, Let's go ahead and take
one more break and we're gonna come back. We will
clean up some super chats after we talk about what
we've been playing right after this. What wait wait wait
wait wait wait oh okay, well what's up? What's forgot
one for the buy state of playing?
Speaker 2: We got? We did it. I'm looking at the list.
We did them all.
Speaker 3: No, we loved we miss one nack three shift? Do
you buy or do you sell? Oh?
Speaker 2: You're right, I'm buying. Baby is back? Jack?
Speaker 3: How about you you better?
Speaker 2: Bye bye?
Speaker 1: It's the trading places in here. We're just Eddie Murphy
and Dan Ackroyd yelling bye.
Speaker 2: Jack. That actually pretty good. Should do it? Yeah, we
should do all right, Yes, thank you, Christian. That was you.
Speaker 1: You caught the oversight there, and I deeply appreciate that.
That's that's what makes you producer. All right, let's get
into it, Mike.
Speaker 2: What have you been playing? That's been quite a bit
of Forts Horizon six. I have been having a really
good time just wandering around those roads, doing the races
that are here and there, even like not being too precious,
like if I got second place, instead of just doing
that race over and over again, there's like fifty other ones.
I'll do one of those and get the Froggy's there.
That's okay. I like the progression system is kind of
working towards that next risk band, and I know there's
gonna be some kind of set piece race to do.
There is always fun, yeah, the showcases. Yeah, I'm a
little worried, like is anything going to beat that mech one?
Relatively early on? I don't know, but they're always fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean racing against a bullet train in Japan, Fuck, yeah,
let's do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They're all really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean it's also our talk about a
ton because it mean, you know, it is a Forts Horizon.
The stepinitely the one of these that I have enjoyed
the most. I like that Japan setting a lot. No,
I think I think LEXI brought this up, like, oh,
it doesn't like do enough with that Japan setting.
Speaker 1: And I get that, I get it.
Speaker 2: I also have to say I'm not I've been sort
of unbothered by it. I don't necessarily need it to
be super in my face, aside from just I mean
the vistas in the setting and the seeing things, and
I always have that one japan radio station on, and
I agree there should be maybe a couple more of
those Japanese radio stations because that one is the best one.
But I struggle to think of too much I would
criticize about this game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I just kind of need
to see Mount Fuji in the background, occasionally see some
some Japanese abodes and stuff like cherry blossoms and cherry blossoms.
Racing down the mountains has like like these like lit
up lanterns that look very very Japanese. Like, yeah, it's
they're They're doing enough for me. Because I always knew
it was going to be a Forts Horizon game, which
means Forts the Horizon first, and then the setting sort
of gets installed inside of Forts Horizon, and I've accepted that,
and I think they did a great job with with
that strategy or in that approach. Yeah, I'm also playing
quite a bit more, Mike. It's like, as I get
done with some other games and I put some stuff aside,
I am going back to Forts Horizon almost every night
and at least playing like a half an hour if
not more, playing it in in between stuff here and there.
It's it's a game. It's just fun to boot up
and play, and it looks so goddamn good that it's like, oh,
I got these good these good computers. I really should
just be looking at that game and all it's glory
and it really.
Speaker 2: Does just pop off the screen. Yeah, what a good game. Yep, yeap,
been enjoying that time. Anything else Lego Batman Legacy of
the Dark Night that has been pretty fun maybe. Uh.
It seems sometimes I criticize these lego games for not
being all that deep, and I get why they are
very like all ages games, right right, yes, and that's fine,
but this one is pretty engaging. It is funny, and
not even just like oh amusing funny. It sometimes is
funny funny, and that's a very difficult thing to do
in video games. Kind of reminds me like I do
like Batman. These characters are fun. It's both weird and
neat seeing them mush all the Batman's together, right like
uh right, like, oh, there's stuff happening from like the
newer Matt Reeves films. And then there's a penguin that's
kind of the one from that but also clearly kind
of Danny DeVito at the same time. Right right, I'm like,
that's interesting. I kind of a kind of dig it
a little bit. I want to play more of it
because it's it's surprising how much it's still opening up
in the first few hours. It takes a little bit
to even get to the open world. There's quite a
bit before that moment before you even Batman. Uh and
I means like, how big is this game? How long
does it take to beat him? What does it look
like by the end? What is the finale to all this?
It's intrigued. It's surprisingly intriguing for Lego Batman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, I definitely put those Lego games,
even the ones that are that are clearly these big
sort of revisiting of stuff they've done before in a
way that fully reimagines and represents everything.
Speaker 2: Despite all that, I just keep with.
Speaker 1: This and Star Wars I was like, ah, and then
when they come out, it's like, man, God, that does
look really well done. It just looks like they figured
out what they're going for and they nailed it. It's
you know, you guys are all playing it, so I
don't necessarily need to go play it to talk about
it on our podcast. And yet I still find myself
being like, I should go play it a little bit,
but there's enough other stuff coming out that I'm afraid
I might just put it aside for a little while.
It would help them seven apparently Jesus, Yes, exactly right,
double seven any minute, exactly good point. If my kids
were like into Batman to any degree, obviously that would help.
But yeah, that's that's not really help me into it
more once, uh, you're murdered? Oh y exit, how I
need some fiction to help me learn how to deal
with this. There's one, there's one go to here.
Speaker 2: You go, you go that don't relate to it a
bit better? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'll be their Alfred. Oh shit, Okay, you'd be
a good Alfred Mike, I mean that, thank you? Yeah,
all right, anything else?
Speaker 2: I think those are the two big ones from this week.
I'm not talking about Docy Kong sixty four anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm still thinking about it. Yeah, it's mostly
been a fort set. And then Bubbsy. I played Bubbzy.
Speaker 2: Four D four review.
Speaker 1: I mentioned it earlier, so I'm not going to talk
about it too much here, but I yeah, I enjoyed
that game quite a bit. It is it's it's got
some jank you can It feels like it was made
as like a work for hire project in that they
kind of met their contractual obligations, but that I think
they gave it enough stink on top to like make
it stand out enough and kind of earn its twenty
dollars and as the successor to Bungee or to Bunch
to Bubbzy, and it's like, well, what does that mean?
Because those Bubby games were never good. It's like, yeah,
this one's the best one for sure, while also still
being like recogniz where it came from and having fun
with the legacy. And all the characters from the failed
pilot cartoon are here. Obviously they've been in a lot
they've been in the other Bubsy games here and there,
but having them all together feels very much like this
is a sequel to that more than anything else. But yeah,
I just I like a three D platform or that
has a character with a ton of movement capabilities that
string together very.
Speaker 2: Well, and this is exactly that.
Speaker 1: It's you know, I would describe the feeling of moving
the character around a Bubzy around as a little bit squirrely,
but that just means that it's that way because you
really can do anything, and it's not like, you know,
fly by wire. It's never like, oh, don't worry, we're
going to make that jump for you or kind of
auto assist. Now, you got to do it all yourself,
and that means if you make a mistake, you might
be screwed. But you also have so many capabilities that
in any situation you usually have a chance to recover.
And doing that like almost you know, the four out
of five times recovering from a mistake through platforming, it's like, okay, yeah,
they kind of got this stuff figured out here and
they made a whole.
Speaker 2: Game around that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, twenty dollars. I think it's like eighteen ish
right now. On Steam At that price, this game makes sense,
and I do not hate the length, you know, I
think it's it's worth calling out.
Speaker 2: People should know.
Speaker 1: Maybe wait for an even deeper discount if that really
does scare you off. But I've heard from a lot
of people the idea of playing this game for a
couple of hours actually sounds pretty enticing, and I think
I think they're right. When I was done with it,
I was like, oh, cool, awesome. Maybe I'll go do
some collectithon stuff. But cool, I got my experience here
and now I can move on. So Yeah, I like
Bubbsy quite a bit.
Speaker 2: So Bubbsy on the rise, Bungee not so much.
Speaker 1: Yes Bubbsy, Yes, Bubbsy got the green arrow, bunch he
has the red arrow.
Speaker 2: That's a weird world we live in. Yeah, I'm sorry
I have to read this one from Daltamon about the
Batman thing. I'mone, gooy, So what why do we make
Proggy's Master Grub? That's that's good. Yeah, I'm gona check out.
I'm gonna check out Busy at something again. I'm like,
really a chain to get back in the Demon sides.
I was looking that quite a bit controller on it
which I finally been using. I was using it with
bat Lego Batman actually, and it's it's felt good, you know,
it's funny. At first, I'm like, I think these analog
sticks are maybe a little too far away, and I
could see how maybe people with like smaller hands than
mine and I have maybe medium size hands that might
be an issue. That was actually playing the game, it
felt completely fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a handle hit and mix it
so you can like kind of like adjusted like the
grip enough that like you really can kind of reach
everything for the most part.
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'mke anxious to find a good dpad game for
it because I think this deep pad it's good, really good.
And I'm really like the kind of like dongole charge
slash like wireless station thing and he has this kind
of like it's got like a little bit of a
rubber on the back so it kind of doesn't just
fall off my desk. And yeah, it's just it feels
like a premium product. It's nice. I like it a lot.
Speaker 1: It feels like a well engineered, like, yeah, well thought
out product that is then that was then sort of
given to a lot.
Speaker 2: Of human beings to actually use.
Speaker 1: So it's not just oh, engineers made this obviously, It's
like no, engineers had a lot of great ideas and
then a lot of UX designers got in there and
made sure it was actually going to be pleasant to
play games with or control your PC with. That's what
I've been I've been using it a lot over on
this other TV, Like when I'm playing.
Speaker 2: DDR, I have that pad.
Speaker 1: The pad doesn't have like the start and select for
like actually navigating the menus, so weilse you kind of
need a controller while you're doing it. And I'm using
that and it's so handy because it's like I can
just turn everything on and then if I'm still in
the Windows interface, that's a great controller for that, and
then once you're in the game, it just automatically transfers
into controlling the game. So it's just a really handy
thing to have with a TV obviously, but as a
PC controller, like on a desktop PC, it's also just fantastic.
I'm using it for everything except for for it in particular.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like neither of us I've tried Yoshi in
the Mysterious Book yet, huh.
Speaker 1: I I downloaded it, so I meant to play it
for tonight's show, but I will talk about it on
the ten Dogs for sure.
Speaker 2: Cool. Yeah, because I was on the Quick Look with
Dan and he enjoyed it, uh and I was kind
of intrigued finally seeing him play it, So okay, check
it out.
Speaker 1: I didn't start watching that Quick Look.
Speaker 2: Was that is a bit of the metron Prime? I
mean according to him, No, but I mean sometimes low
expectations help as supposed to very high ones. Yes.
Speaker 1: Sometimes. All right, let's let's get to the super chats.
Speaker 3: Wait. Wait, I'll have a question for Mike. Mike, do
you do you try a fighting game with the with
the team controller just to see? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do want to think you should.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe. When I was testing Street Fighter street Fighter three,
Third Strike, I was just like, yep, I'm in love
with this.
Speaker 3: This feels so bad.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: By the way, I've been playing some Naughtyco Two issues
real quick. It was really good.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, which which I played some.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just it's a really good one of those.
I think it's kind of the best one of those.
You know, hit a tree with a stick and get
like build your stuff. The thing, the thing, the thing
I think that this game does way better than the
all the other games there are this SORVI all type
games is the map the map design, because all the
others like the forest and almost it's just a forest,
you know, it doesn't it doesn't have a lot going well.
That game has some sci fi going on too, But
like this game. The thing about these type of games
that at the beginning you're kind of lost in the map.
This game is the fastest one where you like learn
your place in like you learn the all the places
in the map that you.
Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1: I was just get to that point at the end
of our two hour session and I was like, oh that,
Like I thought I would be lost for a lot longer.
And it's like by the end of that one, I'm like, oh,
I feel ready to like really go take over this
world now.
Speaker 2: So that was great.
Speaker 3: You start you start moving with purpose like super early
in this game and a way you don't in others,
and like and then the game becomes like she just
surviving the actual like of this place, and it is
really good and the bibes are incredible. It's one of
the few games that really scares me, Like when I'm
playing at the in the middle of the night depths. Really,
that's why I don't go to the ocean.
Speaker 2: I don't know why people scary.
Speaker 3: Sorry. Yeah, so none of the two. Hell hell of
a game.
Speaker 1: I hope I really really enjoyed what I played. Yes,
I hope they get.
Speaker 3: All the bonuses and ship because they really they will.
Speaker 2: They will. Yeah, that's that's not one.
Speaker 1: Finally, Yeah, I was just thinking I should get into
Destiny to now at this rais. Let me, man, I
haven't playing it forever, but I did that first rate
and it freaking ruled and good rated designers over there
for sure. Yeah, shouts out to Anthony Gas who works
on TO.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, Oh.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I please. I played that ray so much.
I knew like there was a it was called the
Underbelly under Raid and you was like a series of
like it was like a like like Apostle Labyrinth and stuff,
and I knew it like the back of my hand,
like I knew every every place, every nook and cranny.
I'm so sad that you need to know. I got
said now that you need to ship.
Speaker 2: Sorry, all right, let's do those super chats. Alrighty boat
Night says I'm forty y'd be alive for GTA seven
probably no, never mind, I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, how long has it been since between these two?
It was thirteen years? Yeah, you'll be okay, what's so basically, let's.
Speaker 2: Say it's even longer. When you're sixty, you'll get to
play GTA seven. Okay, you'll be sixty. I really think
you'll be sixty. Remember I said, I see before, like
you know, grab, I was wondering. I was thinking, boy,
I wonder how many more Zota games I'll get to
play before. I used to never have to think that,
and now I'm like, huh. It used to be like, what's.
Speaker 1: The I absolutely remember thinking, god, man, that's weird. The
gamekeep is going to be like the first Nintendo system
I get when I'm out of high school.
Speaker 2: That's weird.
Speaker 1: And now it's like, maybe I'll get to play another
one of these systems before I fucking die.
Speaker 2: Oh god. There are so many things that I knew
were gonna kind of probably happened my life by time
I hit four. I remember when I got like i'd
be Miley Moore. We got Penny. I was like, oh,
I know, long dog lives, I'll have her to him
about forty they got turning forty that I'm like, I
bet this car will last him about forty got to
the new car. Yeah, it's like, yeah, you do measure
things out like that sometimes, And absolutely, yes, I'm turning
I should so GTI six should still come out before
I turn forty though, so.
Speaker 1: G GT seven Yeah yeah, oh oh you mean six
sometime I'm not give me I got yes, I understood.
Speaker 2: Now yeah, uh, senior bean does why did Sony acquire
Bungie if they don't want to foot the bill for
a Destiny three make no sense? Well, they thought they
would pay for a Destiny three with a lot more
Destiny to and then Marathon money than they actually ended
up getting.
Speaker 3: They also overpaid for a bunch of by the way,
people forget that. People forget that they did some mathematical
magic machicians over there with that studio.
Speaker 1: You know once you always said they didn't want to
make Destiny three. So yeah, that was kind of built
in from the.
Speaker 2: Beginning of that.
Speaker 1: So I just feel like we're out of that.
Speaker 2: I feel like you kind of heard that, like we
wouldn't want to sarily want to make so and so okay, yeah,
I think we're out of that. I think they make
the game.
Speaker 1: No, absolutely, but it's like they said that for so
long and now it's like Sony doesn't want to do
it anymore. So you didn't want to make it. I
thought you didn't want to make it?
Speaker 2: Fuck you?
Speaker 3: What happened thirteen?
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. It's funny how just the things changed. There's
so much of that, like we don't want to be
we don't want to make the next game in the series, Like, well,
now you're close, Like, oh, that sounds making that game
sounds pretty good. Now.
Speaker 3: I don't remember will why. I was looking at old
John bum couch and but I saw one where Looksmith. Yeah,
it was on.
Speaker 2: The argument was like what.
Speaker 3: Is going to be the future of Destiny. It's like, wow, man,
even though those years.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you some stuff. Yeah, yeah, what he's
up to. Next up is from d eight seven nine
stake update for Mikey. Oh thank you. This is from
voicebook Don't truck The steaks are New York strip, going
to smoke them to about one ten fifteen tem then
do a quick serial over hot Chimney Truckle sounds pretty good.
I do like the New York strip. Make sure you season.
Those those things pretty well. I like the review. Seering
technique should be good. Good luck. Uh, Evil Jan says,
what's Oswald's girlfriend name? He learned three weeks ago? He
is Oswald, the Lucky Rabbit guy. It's always a weird name.
It's it's something like Hortensia. Yeah, it is Hortensia. It's
a strange ass name. I think I remember you mentioning this.
I think yeah, because I I mean, I definitely have
learned it before. I just forget because it's such a
weird name. Right, And then Iceman says, I'm paying you
so I can say, let's go Nicks. Is that done
in dusted? Yeah, that's done in dusted ninety three? Oh okay, great, fantastic.
We yay, will be dooof shop. Your team's not even
in the morning.
Speaker 1: What team were talking about? Yeah?
Speaker 2: What team is right? Is right?
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: Let's say we're colp. Thank you everybody?
Speaker 1: All right? Excellent? I think that means that we can
get out of here. Yeah, I'll hit this button right there,
turning back up the volume. All right, Uh, we're gonna
head out of here. Everybody. Thank you for hanging out tonight.
Thanks for all the great super chats. Thanks for just
hanging out in chat the entire time and keeping us
entertained while we were doing the show. We're gonna be
back with another new episode next week. We will have
Last of the nintend Dogs and next week if you
are a fan of us over around Giant Bomb. We're
off on Monday, so keep that in mind. But we'll
have some fun stuff tomorrow and we'll be back with
the BombCast on Tuesday. So yeah, a lot of fun
stuff happening. Uh, what else should we mention, Mike? What
else you got going on?
Speaker 2: Oh? Just you know, it's a long weekend, Giant Bombs. Yeah,
like you said, but you know, hang out with us
on Yeah. There is a new half episode of Nineties
System where we ranked simulator rides in Disney universals. So
check that out Nineties Disney. Yeah. I'm looking forward to
a long weekend.
Speaker 1: It's gonna rely Yeah me too. Yeah, I'm gonna Although
it's a Memorial Day weekend, there's a bunch of like
sales on home good stuff, so I think I might
be doing a lot of projects, but whatever, three days
to do that. Actually it feels like I can get
even more done. So that's great as well.
Speaker 3: But I have to tell do you do you do
you talk about the Durns Run, the.
Speaker 1: Hull Endurance Run is going.
Speaker 3: It's watching it really, I really like it. I mean,
in general, thank you.
Speaker 1: Thanks Christian. Yeah, it's uh, it was great to make
that work. It was great to hear that. It's like,
no complaints about the audio or anything like that. Definitely
something I think me and probably mean Mike making our
tummies a little upset for the last month for sure.
Speaker 2: Uh, but yeah, it's going great.
Speaker 1: People are really digging it, it seems, and uh, I
think we're If you're a premium member or something like
eight episodes in man maybe nine now at this point,
and then if you are a if you're just a
free member, you should check out the stuff because there's
still like.
Speaker 2: Four episodes out at this point. I think.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, you get started, but they're half an hour long.
Usually watch them during your lunch break.
Speaker 2: It's a good time.
Speaker 3: Sure, short episode is perfect for me. I love short
your stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was a really Yeah, it was a really fun
process to record that, and it didn't make me say, hey,
we could do this again sometimes, So yeah, let's throw
over your ideas. I want to hear other good games
that would be good for it. Hie, everyone, we'll get
you next time.
Speaker 2: Meet some we thought you he still live until just now.
But that offer good on the night. Thanks, but it.
Speaker 1: At leaves for one day.
Speaker 2: It's like, I hope you can't see that. Yeah, for
I know that would stress about.
Speaker 1: I'm buying.
Speaker 2: Let's do each other here. Okay, do you have like
scooping out fantasies? All right, we're clear. I did say
that