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Darnel Dixon of the Daily Hero. Donna, how are you
doing today?
Speaker 3: I'm doing pretty well, Ronnie.
Speaker 2: Double d. Let's start with the thing that you love
the most.
Speaker 3: You like the wife, But I.
Speaker 2: Was talking about sports. Yes, you do you like like? Yes?
Of course, your wife is an amazing person. Saw her
in the hospital when we had our kid. She's wonderful.
If you guys haven't met sister Dixon, shame on you.
She's a great person, a fun person to talk to us. Well,
we love the Dixon family. We love Bishop Dixon has
always like to say, let's start with the volleyball. Give
us an update, boy Uman's volleyball recap the weekend. Force
on what they got this week?
Speaker 3: Well, man, it was a really tough weekend for the Cougars.
Lost twice in five sets and had chance to win
both of those. And you know, you see your vine's
a really good team. And the difference in you know,
between winning and losing and all sports is sometimes pretty thin,
and it was certainly thin in that match where by
U on the first night won the first two and
then lost in five, and then they lost the first
two on Saturday and lost in five. It's all good
for a team that's learning to play together and some
new pieces. As long as they can learn from those
those experiences, they're gonna have other opportunities to play really
good teams. And they've got UCFB Santa Barbara on the
road starting tonight and tomorrow, another highly ranked team, another
opportunity to to test themselves. And you know, there's a
few more teams that there are going to allow twelve
teams into the tournament this year college or in college
volleyball for the men, so there's an opportunity to make
that and and you know they they have some good
talent there. It's just a matter of putting it together
at the right time, because time means everything in volleyball.
Speaker 2: Timing is everything in volleyball, it is in other sports.
Do you predict this team to make it to the
tournament and to make a run.
Speaker 3: At this point no, I think they've got an opportunity
to get there, but they're not there yet. The thing
about b YU, and this has kind of been the
story for the last probably five six years, is they've
had good teams, but not elite teams, and the elite
teams are the ones who make the Final four. And
to get from good to elite, you know they're gonna
have to win something, win some of these close matches
that they've been losing. So at this point, I don't
think they're going to be able to get in, but
I think they have the talent where if they continue
to improve, they can put themselves in a good position
to make it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, I agree. I don't think it's in
the making. I definitely think when you look at it
there they can keep improving each week. But that's the
best part about a season is one week of a
season can change a program. Speaking of changing a week
of the program, Darnelle, we were thoroughly entertained with Big Monday,
came down to wire a game that everybody thought by
you was out of just your initial takeaways and if
you have any silver linings from that game, whilch be
what you look like at one point they were gonna
win on Monday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you look at the silver lining as they were
able to come back in the game where they were
down nineteen points. I tend to be not quite as
optimistic about the outcome. And here let me tell you why.
The first thirteen minutes of that game was really close,
back and forth. There were nine lead changes and six ties.
It was two good teams going at each other, and
you expect, Okay, this one's gonna go down to the wire.
The last seven minutes. The first half was all Kansas.
I mean, sorry, all Arizona. I'm looking ahead all Arizona day.
I think they outscored by twenty to five in that
seven minute period, and then they dominated most of the
second half up until the final couple of minutes. Win
b why you got back in the game, and there
were some fortuitous bounces in the ball and a few
calls and be the only way to get there. But
my point is against a team as good as Arizona,
and there's no way anybody comes out of that game
thinking Arizona is not the number one team in the
country because they're really good. But you can't play an
elite team and only play fifteen minutes out of the forty.
Because when you add up those totals, for fifteen minutes,
BYU was as good, if not in some points better
than Arizona, but for the other twenty five it was Arizona.
So to me, BYU is still going to have to
prove and they've got an opportunity at Kansas this weekend.
They got Houston coming up on the schedule and another return,
you know, with Arizona going down to Tucson. They've got
to show that they can play more than about fifteen
minutes worth of good basketball against good teams. And so
coming out of that, I know Kevin Young came out
of it saying, hey, we can compete with any team
in the country, and he's probably right about that. But
I came out of it thinking, man, you just had
your two best players, too, of your best players combined
to shoot nine for forty, and you can't have that
happened in the big game. Now, it's possible that both
of them knew there were thirty three pro scouts in
the building, and maybe that made them a little bit nervous.
They were wanting to prove something. I don't know, but
I do think this team has a lot to proof
still that they can get themselves against elite teams and
and play more than fifteen minutes. We're to good basketball.
Speaker 4: Well, so buy Used, Now that's in my opinion, I
think that's the second time by Used done that, the
first time being Yukon and and maybe you can throw
Texas Tech in there too, where they just kind of
but I think they just went well and Texas Tech
you just melted down and stopped playing. Fact that one,
That one was more of a thirty out of forty minutes.
But but for Yukon and Texas Tech, is it both times?
Buy Used to have the opportunity to play these teams
that I think most people would say sort of piably
have the potential to make a Final Four run, and
BYU has not played very well at all for most
of those games. Is there any worry that that's what
this team will do going forward when they play the
Houstons and the Iowa States and Texas Tech. Again, is
BYU built to be able to compete for a full
game against these teams?
Speaker 3: I think that's the challenge with the coaching staff and
with the Big Three is to come up bigger in
those games. I mean another aspect of that game is
that Richie Saunders fouled out of the one minute mark.
Dan I have him for that last play, and that
might have made a difference. I also think that, you know,
we look at this college basketball scene and we see teams,
you know, getting better, and we got to realize too
that there's still some adjustment periods with all of the newness,
all the new players and the new coaches and new system.
And you know, each team rebuilds itself every year, and
even now it's a lot more that they have to
rebuild than they used to. So BYU as a team
and because they don't have the depth they had last year,
that those top three guys have to be it every night.
And if there is a silver lining, as Ron mentioned,
you talk about how Cannar Davis and Alexi Coast has
made three pointers. Anybody that watches the game knows defenses
are prime to stop those three players Richie and AJ
and Rob and they're gonna be shots open and guys
don't make them sometimes. So it's important that the Cougars
can figure out a way to involve everybody, and it's
Canard has gotten out of his shooting slump. That's great,
and we talked about there are opportunities for them to
step up and play these good teams and get a win.
But right now we've seen a couple of times against
the elite teams in the country. Yeah, they lost by
a little bit, but it's still lost, and they had
the opportunity to win. And they got to play better
for longer amounts of time. That's what I took out
of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they definitely got to play better for longer amounts
of time. And look, you know, I like to ask
the feel good questions sometimes if the top king is
on the on the court, do you think Burry's blitzes
off the weak side to go block, or do you
think Rob lays it up for a win? Or if
he does blitz, do you think he kicks hit to
Richie and they win that game? Because I have to
think if Richie's on the court, they play that defensively
a little bit better. I have to think Tommy Lloyd
would tell him, don't you leave Richie Saunders.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that might be the case, but you have to
remember Cannard Davis had hit five to three pointers.
Speaker 2: This is true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the second half, so you know, they said,
you know, stick to the shooters, and Burry's decided not to.
And you can debate whether or not he fouled Rob.
You know, you can slow it down and look, maybe
he got the arm. It was a good defensive come off.
And and to give Rob credit to when he drove,
his defender went flying off out of bounds, so he
was open well y fourth and this got up. He
had driven into the key, his defender fallen off of him,
and he had an opportunity right there at the rim.
The big for Arizona was stuck to Kaba and so
that that was the right move to make. And Berry's
just came from behind and made a play. And so
you know, initially when I watched the playoff, thought, why
are you putting the ball in Rob's hands? He's three
for seventeen to night or whatever he was. Yeah, and
you know, Kevin Young said, you know, we ride or
die with these guys, and and we know their winners,
and we know Rob had a game winner against Clemson.
But you know also in that that Yukon game, he
dribbled the ball off his foot or you know, and
lost control of it on the opportunity for Buau to win.
So it's it's a it's a situation where Rob is still,
I think, kind of learning the college game somewhat and
he's going to get better in those situations. But I
think after looking at it, I'm like, Okay, I understand
why Kevin decided to go there, but I just don't
know if you wanted the ball to end up in
the hands of somebody who had not had a good
shooting game, and I don't know that. I don't know
if you can expect Rob to have eyes in the
back of his head either to realize that berries had
come off and No was standing alone the three point line.
You just can't.
Speaker 2: No, you're right, you can. And maybe if you give
the ball to a j at length, he can spin
and see that that's coming and avoid it. And that's
a you know, that's a nitpicking type thing. I will
ask you this though, because Ben always says you need
two to three data points. Rob hit the buzzer, beat it,
but the play wasn't drawn up for him. It was
supposed to be Aj then Richie, and he was a
third option when Rob has been the first and again
he was the second option because Kevin Young said they
took the first one away and we've seen it now
with Rob. Have two data points where Yukon and now this,
Should they put Aj in the back court Darnell and
put Rob elsewhere? Part of me thinks, because he's getting
fronted by Coe Pete and then Bradley's behind them. Rightfully so,
but should they have done that with twelve seconds rather
than go to Rob? You know, part of me wants
to feel like, Okay, you've got to get the ball
in the best player's hands. But at all calls should
they have switched that? Do you think? Or is it
just they just they're going to live and die with,
you know, the second option being Rob or Richie.
Speaker 3: Sometimes yeah, I think they'll die with that option. I
think that getting the ball into Rob's hands as a
playmaker is probably the best idea because he's the one
that can get into the key and penetrate. He's quick
enough to do that. I don't know if he's developed
the kind of instincts to know that if you drive
into the middle of the key and the defense collapses,
there's going to be a couple of guys wide open
on the perimeter. I think sometimes he gets a little
bit of blinders when he gets in there, and he's
good at scoring inside for his size, he really is.
So I think maybe it's just something that Rob's going
to have to learn as he grows in his basketball
edgevcation that when you drive late in the game and
the defense SAgs, there's gonna be opportunities for guys to
be open outside of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's where at all you always you wish
fifteen was in the game because you wonder if they
if they blitzed that hard and he kicks it, I
have to think I would bet my mortgage, you know
that if Richie Sounders got the last shot of the game,
Darnell in the maryout center against the number one team
in the country and he's wide open, and you're leaving
that he's going to bury that triple. But I can
live that way in my dreams, not today, this day
and age. But what I can live in is that
there's a top fifteen matchup on Saturday. Is all forgiven, Darnell.
If this team plays well against Kansas and they come
out of fog Allen Field House with the win, I
think that's a tougher place to win and play than
Lubbock Now some will push back on me, but I
think if you beat Kansas for the third time and
you get that premiere Quad one road win in that
type of environment, and aj Ball's out and you walk out,
no one's thinking about Arizona or Texas Tech anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it appears that Darren Peterson is going to play
in this game. That's the last guy said, don't Yeah,
he's going to play. How about that? And you know,
as a general rule, you really want to win your
home games because you know how hard it is to
win on the road. So now you put yourself a
position where you're down one in the home game situation,
you really need a road win. And you know, Allen
Field House is a very difficult place to play. Their
second in the conference in attendance to BYU. They're a
really good defensive team in the half court. I think
that's going to be something you can definitely watch in
this game. They lead the Big twelve Kansas does in
field goal percentage defense and three point field goal percentage defense.
So in the half court, they're difficult to score against.
So you want to get some transition. You want to
get to the foul line if you can. And I
think that over the course of the season, AJ has
been able to do that in most games, but on
the road that becomes a little more difficult because you
don't get those home maybe as much. So it's it's
a great opportunity for this team to put that loss
behind them on Monday and show what they can do.
I don't think you're going to find another game where
robin Aga combined to go nine for forty or hopefully
they'll they'll shoot the ball better and defensively, they're not
going to get maybe as lost as they were against
those Kansas Scars because man Burry's and Bradlett were just
fantastic in that first half. There was just nothing defensively
the way you could do to slow those guys down,
And I think they figured a few things out in
the second half to force them to take some more
difficult shots. But that Arizona team is maybe the best
offensive team in the country and definitely, you know, shoot
better than fifty percent every game and they get lots
of points inside the key. So hopefully they've learned some
defensive lessons in that game. But it's going to be
a tough one. I mean, it's an afternoon game the
field house will be full. And we all know the
situation a couple of years ago when Mark Pup was
coaching and and Dollen Hall stuck that jumper top of
the key to to light up that and and for
me or you to win in Allen field House, that
was fantastic and it was It's another opportunity on Saturday
Double D.
Speaker 2: I revealed I've said multiple times and I keep saying
it because it's it's funny for me to say, but
that's Hunter Dickinson belongs to Dallan Hall. Dollen Hall is
Hunter Dickinson's daddy. You know all jokes because of that shot.
And look, look I even revealed it. He's gone now.
I wait for players to graduate, for them to lead
b YU, so I don't get in any trouble. I
talked to doll In his parents, mom and dad after
the game, and Dalla said he tried to do it again.
He said he tried to recreate it. You remember the
shot he took it as at oh and it point
it pointed straight up. It was a big time brick,
but he tried to re enact it. I don't blame
him either, because when you hit a shot like that
on the road. That's like an all time great shot
in my opinion.
Speaker 3: Darnell, it is, and it's it's one that b where
you fans remember and and you know, even the media
who traveled to that game, and I was not as
fortunate to go to that one, but I know talking
to some of the other media that went just to
be there in that arena, and I had similar feelings,
you know, traveling to different locations for other sports, like
going to you know, a Notre Dame stadium for the
first time and walking on that field and realizing the
games that have been played there, same as Allen fieldhals.
There's been some fantastic games played there and amazing players
went on to be great pro players and win national championships,
and it's historic and it's fun and it's it's one
of the main reasons why people love that b why
you joined the Big Twelve, because you have those opportunities
now and you don't have to watch other teams just
take them. You get a chance to go play there
as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I made the case.
Speaker 4: I said this earlier in the show, and I want
to get your thoughts on this take. I think that
the winner of this game. I think this has big
seeding implications in March, that the winner of this game
will be one seed higher than the loser. I think
they're that close. Do you see it being that that
big of a game at this point in the season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, few By can't just be here. You're pretty close,
and not just rankings, but in the net ranking and
some other things. Yeah, I can kind of see that.
It seems early in the season to you know, take
that stand. But we also know that because by you
can't play in the Sunday Regionals, that they're a little
bit limited and sometimes they drop a seed just because
of that reason. And so any opportunity BYU has to
beat a team that has a high net ranking to
improve their ability to be seated high is really important.
The coach has built the schedule in the non conference
to put themselves in the best position to get a
higher seed, and so they've done that. Now is the
opportunities that come up more often in the Big twelve
plays you have a team with a high net ranking. Now,
when you lose to that team doesn't necessarily hurt your
net ranking, but if they go down and the committee
starts looking at what you've done when they make their
decisions for the NCAA Tournament. Those kind of wins make
a big difference. So yeah, I think it's a really
big weekend for the Cougars and a win here could
put them in the position they want to be where
there are three or a four seed instead of five
verse six.
Speaker 2: It's a good point and they have you brought that up,
and I agree with them. I mean, right now, I
think they're still flirting with that three seed, but because
of Sunday implications, they could get bumped to a four.
That's why they need if they win Darnel, they win
these next two games on the road, and obviously there's
a lot of season left, but do you think if
they win these next on the roaw Kansas Oklahoma State,
does that start to solidify them in that three seed
maybe and get them up to that two seed range,
Because with the Sunday implications, if they keep losing these
quad one games at home or on the road, they're
in potential, I think danger of being a four seed,
and I don't think you can make a push at
that point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably. I mean, it's fun to speculate, but
it is league. It's just it's a difficult to really
predict week to week. I remember last year was a
Kansas State that went on like a five game winning streak.
Yeah it was four or five. That's I mean in
this league, that can happen. A team can get hot
and just start playing really well. I mean, who knows,
it could be Utah or Colorado or one of those
teams that's near the bottom of the league can step
up and just start knocking teams off. So you, you know,
as meat members, we can look ahead at different games
and different lineups and teams and matchups, and the coaches
while I'll say we only take, you know, our next opponent,
we'ren't worried about the other games. And you really have
to take that tact in this league because anybody can
rise up and beat you and put you with your
back against the wall. A little bit.
Speaker 2: Calling it right now, double D calling it right now
BYU win streak Kansas, Oklahoma, Houston, Baylor. I'm just kidding,
it's nuts. That's not the case. We'd all be shocked.
But I will say this though, I will say out
of the next six games that I mentioned, three of
them are Quad one games. Excuse me out of the six,
four are Quad one games, three on the road. If
you're able to get two out of the to get
two of those games on the road, that does help.
I think your resume bumps. You up to now six
and three in Quad one games, and you're gonna need
to two premier Quad one wins. I think Taboos's resume.
I think that's what the bracketologies are saying, Darnell, we
need to get you out of here. We'll get you
out of here on this How do you have this
one plan out on Saturday? What do you think happens
is Bay you finally get that Quad one win on
the road and turn it around.
Speaker 3: You know how I unlook predictions, Ronnie.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I'm asking for a score prediction.
Speaker 3: I think they'll play better for a longer amount of
time than they played on Monday. Let's say that. I
don't think Kansas is Arizona by any means, but it's
going to be really fun to watch. Peterson and and
the Boons will go at ease each other. They've done
it before in their high school careers. I think Darren
scored like fifty and Aja scored like forty nine or something.
It was crazy, So they're both going to take that personally.
So it's a great one on one matchup. And for
b YU, they just have to have guys like Kennard
Davis and Alexi and some of the other guys off
the bench just be solid and do the right things
and put them in a position where they take advantage
of their opportunities when the defense is focused on the
Big three. So I think BNYU has a really good
chance of winning this game. Kansas has been on a
roll lately, but they've proven that they are vulnerable. They're
not going to be great even with Darren Peterson, and
they've lost some games. So it's a classic matchup. Can't
wait for it.
Speaker 2: You wonder how much Kamba Kaba is going to play
a factor. He was named to Defensive Player of the Week,
you know the twenty twenty six Na Smith. You wonder
what factor do be Doo and Kaba have. But I
can tell you this, you cannot let Darren Peterson and
crew get you and foul troub but that's for sure,
Double d Before I let you go, what's the best
way we can support you? What you do, how you
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Speaker 2: Tweeting xing. Both are okay in my opinion.
Speaker 3: And I try to be clever, so you know you
can be your own judge of that.
Speaker 2: Hey, all I gotta say is Canard Davis Jr. Was
hearing your tweeting xing zetting because he learned how to
play his role of shooting threes when someone passes it
to you and not calling his own number. So he
saw your your comments. He did kidded he didn't see
your comments, but I hope he heard them and he
felt them in his loins, in his bosom because he
had a great half. And if he shoots like that,
I don't think AJ and Robb will go nine to forty.
I think bo he's got a great shot for Saturday.
I look forward to this game. Darnella, We will catch
up with you next week.
Speaker 3: All right, doctu lated It's.
Speaker 2: Darnel Dixon of the Daily herod in the Little Cougar
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little bit stretching the truth. But I don't just straight
up lie. The Lord says don't lie, So I try
not to. And if I make mistakes, then I do
try to repent on Sundays, try to do my best. Below,
we were reading the article earlier. I don't know if
you saw this, but there was some controversy with the
targeting called college football targeting rule could be headed for
an overhaul, but it's not going away. Obviously. One of
the players for Miami had to sit out. The coach
called it unjust because you had to sit out the
first two quarters of the game. Now, for the fans
and the people listening don't understand, targeting is when you
use the crown of the helmet to the head or
the neck area of a defenseless player, and if you
do so, you are then kicked out of the game.
You can still stay on the sidelines. If it happens
in the first half of the game, you're done for
the rest of that game. You could play in the
next game, But if it happens in the second half,
you didn't have to sit out the first half of
the game. That happened for one Miami player. Miami's coach
called it unjust below. Do you believe it's unjust to
have someone sit out of a National championship game for
this rule?
Speaker 5: I think it's unjust to have any player sit out
of any game, regardless of the magnitude. It's unfortunate though,
that it happened in the National Championship game, to have
one of your best players all out and all year,
all through the playoffs, and then and the biggest game
that he's needed most, he can't play. Like that's that's crazy.
It's crazy, man. I don't like it. I don't like
the rule. I never did. I understand player safety and
and whatnot, but I don't know if it's I don't
think it's one hundred percent objective when it comes to
the judgment, right, because if you look at multiple targeting
calls across you know, like high school, college, NFL, well,
NFL does they don't even have it, right, I mean
they have personal thousands, they don't have it objected. Yeah,
so if the NFL doesn't have it, come on now,
like and those are grown, grown men and everybody's probably
three four inches taller and twenty to forty pounds heavier
per position and run you know, way faster, So there's
there's way bigger collisions there and they don't even they
don't even have that. So I just I think I
think it's not as black and white. You look at
a couple of them, and there's times where we're like,
that's targeting. There's other times where we're like, that's not targeting.
So it's I think it's I think to have a
rule that has a little bit of gray area, it's
it's it's hard. It's hard to make a rule like that,
especially a rule that can take out one of your
most impactful players, you know, in any given game throughout
the season. I think I think a solution should be
if they want it, if they want to enforce it
in some type of way, maybe maybe do it like basketball, right,
like your first your first tech you get it, and
then your second tech you out right. Maybe something like that.
If you have two targetings per game, maybe you're out
for the rest of the game, but you don't get
suspended for the next game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you bring up a good point. I mean, just
to reset for the people, for the fans, just a reminder.
Miami cornerback Xavier Lucas spent the first two quarters sideline
as part of a targeting valley committed in the second
half of the previous game. The semifinal went over ole
miss that cost Miami fifteen fifteen yards and penalties. Lucas
was disqualified and that carried over and he had to
miss the first half of the National Championship out against Indiana.
Still crazy to think that that happened all this week.
Speaker 5: How many and how many yards? How many? How many?
How many passing yards the Indiana's quarterback have in the
second half? Not a lot, that's my pointy. I mean,
I don't know their structure. I don't follow Miami football
like that, but anybody that knows football understands that when
you play, yeah it's one on one individually, and yeah
it is you know, a team effort, especially on defense.
You know, dun your one eleventh or whatnot. But people
really don't understand the unit within that those eleven players, right, Like,
you're a defensive line, that's one UNI linebackers, that's one
UNI dbs. That's one unit. You can even go up
further and say the safety in the corner. That's another
unit within a unit. And so when one person is
out of sync, it all messes up. He's starting for
a reason. So you're gonna have somebody that comes in
that's a second string player. I'm not saying he's not good,
but he not starting for a reason. Another guy is.
And so when you talk about units and being you know,
in sync, right in unison with each other. You remove
one of those players and man pieces like things start
to crumble. And you saw when he came back. I'm
not saying he had a direct impact. I'm just saying
that it could be a correlation, you know when it
comes of first half yards and second half passing yards,
you know with Indiana.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely think there's a correlation. I agree with you.
I think back to the BYU Arizona game, right, I
know that there was a delay with weather, but Keanu
Tonavasa going out of the game, and then they call
what should have been just roughing the passer with Isaiah
glasher To called targeting and all of that mumble trumple
We're not going to get into. But Keanu being out
of the game, you saw it was on the Star
to run the ball a little bit more. They were
able to run play action a little bit better and
throw the football. And I think that you can't tell
me that that didn't impact Buyu's chances. Not saying that
they would have run away with the game, but would
it looked to be like another blowout below ended up
being an overtime game, be double overtime win for BYU
because Keanu couldn't play the rest of the game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. And the thing with like being being in
a unit, right, like having a family for an example,
but you know your wife, she knows you. You know
your kids, they know you, vice versa. Like like with
my brothers. Like my brothers, I'd be like, ooh, don't oh,
don't put that in that track, don't put that you
put it, put that in in the recycling bent, don't
put that in the trash in that that's gonna whoop you. You
know what I'm saying, Like like we understand each other's
tendencies and the same thing, especially on defensive line, right,
Like I know what the guys the right and the
left of me is going to do in certain situations,
like in like live game, in the play during the
snap of the ball, if something happens that's unexpected, I
know this guy well enough to know that he's gonna
do this type of move, So I need to make
up for that move. I know he's gonna make based
off of his tendencies. So you bring somebody new in
and you got to think about it. First team players
they take first team reps with other first team players.
You know what I'm saying, Like, there's no there. You
have your first team players, second team, second stream, third
none those those whatever team you're on, there may be
a couple occasionally some rotations here and there, but usually
when you do rotate, like BYU rotates a lot, usually
it's the whole line that goes out, right, it may
not just be just one guy. So yeah, you can.
You can definitely see how one player and impactful player
can can really change the outcome of a game when
they're not being when they're at present.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you definitely can't and you see it. So, I mean,
we had we discussed this. I get your thoughts on this.
Are you in favor of Okay, they don't get kicked
out of the game, they treated like the NFL and
then they go back and review tape and then find
players for because that's what they do in the NFL.
And I think that to me, us we feel that's
the right way to go. Keep players in these games
and then treat them as adults because now that's what
you're preparing them for and they're making money, like you know,
the next level. Anyway, give them a fine for it,
get a reasonable price of that, and then you keep
it pushing because I believe it's it's gonna be catastrophic
for these games to continue to have these moments where
big time players are not playing your big time games.
I don't want to see that as a college football
fan anymore.
Speaker 5: Where's the money going to?
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I haven't thought that far that see,
but that's why that's why you're here. But all I
know is that I don't know where the money's going.
What are your thoughts? Where should the money go to?
That was just a good idea of like key players
in games, because you know, there has to be some
accountability right of the rule, and that's what they do
in the NFL. You know, maybe you go back and
do this depends like you said second one, and then
you're gone, you know, like on sportsmanlike conduct. But like
do they not still go back and find people or
is it internally with the team. I don't know what
the answer is, but I think having that conversation can
lead to somewhere.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think accountability for sure. You know, you can't
just you can't just and and to be honest with you, you know,
just despite what it looks like on paper targeting even
though it's to protect, uh, you know, defensive player, it's
really it's really for the for the defender, you know
what I mean, Like the defender when you when you
when you put your crime at the head down, right,
like you have your chances of getting paralyzed jurassically go up.
And this this is like this is science, right because
now you're putting your sign in jeopardy. Uh A defensive
player like, yeah, he can, he can get knocked out,
but he gonna wake up and he may have to
take a couple of weeks off or concussion or whatever,
but eventually he's gonna be back. Uh. You not if
you if you have a wrong hit with your head
down and and your spinal cord is compressed and you
end up not being able to walk for the rest
of your life. Like that's a that's a you know,
And I'm not trying to take away from you know,
not protecting offensive players, but at the end of the day,
it's it's truly for the defensive player. So I do
I do agree with the accountability and being staates. I would,
And so in the NFL, allegedly fines go to charities, right,
I don't believe that I'm just saying allegedly to protect
you know you and the program, and I know being
not here, so I know how you think it was
about how he feels about me when I when I
talk about my conspiracy and the Earth's flight and all
that I've signed, I've just haided to be politically correct.
And so I think I think there could be a
away where people that are giving out those fines are
doing it more to increase their pockets. So I think
we got to be mindful of that, right I do.
I do think that anytime you hurt anybody's pockets, like
actions are going to dractically change. That's just simple. This
is a text. So I do. I do like that approach.
I do like that. I'd have to ponder about it
a little bit more to see, uh, you know, positive
like like the pros and the cons. But I do
know that any time you touch somebody's wallet, and that
is based off their behavior, behavior changes overnight. So it
could be a good solution period.
Speaker 2: And that's the first time Bilo is love one of
my ideas where I thought they're like not anything ron
So hopefully that is. But That's why I went That's
why we went that way, because when you start touching
people dollars, people shave up real quick. I've seen it
in all aspects of everything. People don't like the money touch,
and people don't like the women, they food, they family.
Certain things people don't like, and money is definitely one
of them. Missing that top five. I think for sure.
We got Brian Logan on the line and they keeping
up with the Cougar segment discussing off season college football news.
One of the news on the news and notes. I
don't know if we asked you your thoughts on it. Tomorrow,
Warren Official was on the board with with a corner position.
Mississippi State transfer Javin Williams is now signed with the
Cougars the six for two. He's on campus, by the way,
people that know the six to two hundred and ninety
pounds corner boosts BYU's roster. We know that Marie Bomba
is declared for the draft. He's gone, he takes that scholarship.
They're still looking for one more guy because Tavion Bezi's
at USF for that Nickel spot your thoughts below on
Javin Williams and coming I like the six for two.
I like the one hundred and ninety pounds and bringing that.
What are your thoughts on this addition to the cornerback
room for BYU.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw that all the you know, the height
and the weight, and I think five or seven years ago,
I would have been a static and you know, I
would have I would have been jumping up and down
and and uh man, I thought that it was manna
from heaven. You know that that that guy you know
dropped down. But it's normal now, man like like like
these are prototypical you know, b Yu corners now and
it's great to see and it's great to to to
see that a guy like that that you know is
coming from the sec to have interest right that. I
think that's the next step is. And I'm not sure
what his religion is. I'm gonna assume he's a double
minority and yeah, so so I think that's the next step, right,
is to get more double minority to to to come
to provo and have the interest to in provo and
kind of remove any type of uh, you know, I
don't want to say biased, but you know, you hear
a lot of stuff when you're on the recruiting trail
and people find out that you're getting recruited by b yuh,
that pitch turns to all the negative things that Provo
you know has to offer, and instead of the pitch
continuing to talk about how great their school is and
why you should you know, attend there. And so I think,
I think the more that we can have, especially you know,
in those positions is a great thing. I haven't looked
at his film. What's what concerns me about the transfer
portal era is that there's a reason why the majority
of the reason why kids transfer is because they're not playing,
right would you? Would you agree with that statement?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Not even a close one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: Right right now. Obviously there's other situations where I'm transferring
because I'm going to make more money. So my next
question is, because I haven't done research on them, is
was he a starter at Mississippi State?
Speaker 2: You was not?
Speaker 5: Okay, So now we're getting begetting back to my concern.
If you weren't starting at Mississippi State, that can tell
us you weren't good enough right to play to start.
And I'm not I'm not I'm not knocking him out.
I'm just this is a general a general statement that
I'm making because he could have had all Americans in
front of him, right, he could have a four year start, Like,
we don't know its take the yeah, we don't know that.
We don't know all those things. And so my, my,
I don't want to say concern so much. It's just
that if you were number two here, what makes you
think you're going to be at number one here? Is
it opportunity? Again, I don't know this. There is a
situation what I've seen with b YU specifically in the
transfer porter. You guys can tell me if I'm right
or wrong. The kids that are coming up from the sts,
you know schools or even the lower division schools like
a Utah State and the transfer to b y U,
those those kids tend the ball out. Those are the
kids that tend to really make an impact on the
roster in my experience, Like, you guys know this stuff
way more than me. You know, Yeah, and my analyst
on b YU TV and it's my job. I don't
even know the starters. Tell you right now, I'm not
gonna liket to you. The second string guy come in.
I'm looking at the breakfast street, like, who's that guy
I got. I have Darrem on my side, like, dam
who's that? He's like, Bro, you should you should be
known this that. I'm like, No, don't tell anybody, guys
to tell me who he is. You know, like you
guys know this stuff more than me. But from my experience,
when you get a guy from a cow or from
an Oregon or from a Stanford, they tend to not
really pan out. And I think that goes back to
my first point I was making that you know, if
it's if it's a big time school, that that thats
a guy from big time school that transfers over to
b YU. I don't, like, have you really seen the
true impact?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's few and far between. The guys that
are coming or the high level guys are the ones
that you know, it had to work really hard, like
the Jay Robbs, like the Jack Kellies. Because now, and
those are the anomalies, right because I'm with you, we're
on the same way. Anomalies. Now, the guys that they're bringing,
the kdu luaves, guys that have already been playing at
their former school, Guys that are already making an impact.
These guys, you know Jay Clifton too, You know like
you just it's these other guys have been taking reference.
But maybe that does bode well because would you agree
and would you say more it was like the third
cornerback and maybe this guy coming to BYU could be
the you know, the third cornerback in the role and
be okay with that because obviously we know that it
was Trey and schmav it was Evan. But then maybe
when Trey got you know, dinged up a little bit
or was out, they did go with Maury Morri's playing well,
maybe him being the third option that bo he plays
a little bit more. Maybe they don't go to Nickel
package as much. Do you maybe do you think he
could fit in that third role because he's not taking
time away from the other two. I'm in agreeing with
you there.
Speaker 5: You know, if Coach g was still here and uh,
Coach Hill, I would I would I would say you're
onto something, uh in regards to hey, you know we
you know Maury's gone. We're not looking for a starter.
We're looking for somebody that I can come in and
be a relief pitcher for us when we need it. Right,
So maybe we don't like we don't have to shoot
for these five star, four star impact type of players.
But we need we need a player that can do
just enough, like a backup quarterback in the NFL, right,
you Like, there's literally a skill set and there's certain
intangibles that NFL scouts and teams and GMS they look
at like, oh yeah, he's a he's a great backup
quarterback for ten years. He's not a starter. But we
know if he's on our team and our quarterback goes
down for two three games, he could he can he could,
he could or four games he could split those. He
can win us two he could lose to that. They
were fine with that, and and so if they were
still so still here, I would I would agree with that.
I would. You know, understand that we don't know now right, Yeah, yeah,
we don't. We don't, we don't. We don't know like that,
that that three corner, Like when Coach g was here
these last couple of years, that was something that we
knew as fans. The average fan knew that Bluyu plays
three corners regardless who they are, who they are, where
they where they're at in you know, uh uh they're
uh they're great.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: It was a kind of a three cornerback system. You
knew it's like receivers.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: I may not start, but I'm in the rotation, so
I'm pretty much a starter.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: But yeah, we don't you know, we don't. We don't
know how how that philosophy and you know, with with
with the new defensive coordinator, and I shouldn't say that
I should respect him more. It came back my homie. Yeah,
we we just don't.
Speaker 3: We just don't know.
Speaker 5: So, I mean, obviously, I think the basics and the
foundation of the intangibles are there. Height, weight, speed, athleticism.
Now let's see if he can put the coaches that
can help me put the mental side together, and see
if he can learn the defense as quick as possible
so he can't get on the field, uh and make
an impact.
Speaker 2: Valid points from Brian Brian Logan from you don't know
what the Mario Warren having him play call at this
high of a level. He asked, play called it boys,
stay in my west. But like you when I mean
play call me coaching guys. Well, we'll see, but this
is the first one off the board. We'll see what
he does. There needs to be a great speriod. But
you bring up good points be low before I let
you go. H Outside of prayers, what's the best way
we could support you what you're doing? How you do it? Brother?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Just prayers? Hey, prayers, man, Just prayer for me. Everybody.
Just put me in your top five prayer list. You know,
if you don't got room tonight, you know, I just
ask that you find a day tomorrow or or you know,
I don't want to. I don't want to hold you
for you know, going into the weekend. So if you
can't get tomorrow, Monday is great as well. I definitely
would appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Hey, prayers is the way to go. That's how we
get better and that's how we can save society is
more prayers, more love for sure. Below. Appreciate you to day, brother,
and we'll catch up with you again soon.
Speaker 5: All right, man, appreciate you. Go.
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