1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,839 Speaker 1: Is Cougar Sports with Ben Kretel at its time for 2 00:00:02,919 --> 00:00:05,919 the Cougar Beat, getting the dish from the local reporters 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,679 that cover Cougar athletics. 4 00:00:19,879 --> 00:00:21,719 Speaker 2: Now, welcome back to Cougar Sports here one O, three 5 00:00:21,839 --> 00:00:24,600 nine and ninety three ESPN and FAM. I got Andrew 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,519 Peterson and Caleb Lyons by my side. I'm gonna get 7 00:00:28,519 --> 00:00:30,640 into a little Cougar be gonna welcome in Darnell Dixon 8 00:00:30,679 --> 00:00:33,200 of the Daily Herald here. Momentarily effort and get him 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,119 on the line. 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You got now until February second to get 43 00:02:02,959 --> 00:02:06,280 this amazing warehouse sell at Primo golf Apparel dot com. 44 00:02:06,319 --> 00:02:08,759 All right, let's not wait any further. Let's get out 45 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,360 to the ESPN and the Fanmily Highline and welcome in 46 00:02:11,439 --> 00:02:13,039 Darnel Dixon of the Daily Hero. Donna, how are you 47 00:02:13,039 --> 00:02:13,479 doing today? 48 00:02:14,759 --> 00:02:16,439 Speaker 3: I'm doing pretty well, Ronnie. 49 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: Double d. Let's start with the thing that you love 50 00:02:20,039 --> 00:02:20,439 the most. 51 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,039 Speaker 3: You like the wife, But I. 52 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,479 Speaker 2: Was talking about sports. Yes, you do you like like? Yes? 53 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,960 Of course, your wife is an amazing person. Saw her 54 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,039 in the hospital when we had our kid. She's wonderful. 55 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,520 If you guys haven't met sister Dixon, shame on you. 56 00:02:33,599 --> 00:02:36,159 She's a great person, a fun person to talk to us. Well, 57 00:02:36,199 --> 00:02:38,479 we love the Dixon family. We love Bishop Dixon has 58 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,960 always like to say, let's start with the volleyball. Give 59 00:02:41,039 --> 00:02:44,199 us an update, boy Uman's volleyball recap the weekend. Force 60 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,159 on what they got this week? 61 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,759 Speaker 3: Well, man, it was a really tough weekend for the Cougars. 62 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,439 Lost twice in five sets and had chance to win 63 00:02:53,599 --> 00:02:57,080 both of those. And you know, you see your vine's 64 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,439 a really good team. And the difference in you know, 65 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,280 between winning and losing and all sports is sometimes pretty thin, 66 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,800 and it was certainly thin in that match where by 67 00:03:08,879 --> 00:03:11,840 U on the first night won the first two and 68 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,120 then lost in five, and then they lost the first 69 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,800 two on Saturday and lost in five. It's all good 70 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,199 for a team that's learning to play together and some 71 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,960 new pieces. As long as they can learn from those 72 00:03:24,159 --> 00:03:27,879 those experiences, they're gonna have other opportunities to play really 73 00:03:27,879 --> 00:03:32,479 good teams. And they've got UCFB Santa Barbara on the 74 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:37,360 road starting tonight and tomorrow, another highly ranked team, another 75 00:03:37,719 --> 00:03:42,599 opportunity to to test themselves. And you know, there's a 76 00:03:42,639 --> 00:03:44,280 few more teams that there are going to allow twelve 77 00:03:44,319 --> 00:03:46,800 teams into the tournament this year college or in college 78 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:49,879 volleyball for the men, so there's an opportunity to make 79 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,199 that and and you know they they have some good 80 00:03:53,199 --> 00:03:55,199 talent there. It's just a matter of putting it together 81 00:03:55,599 --> 00:03:58,000 at the right time, because time means everything in volleyball. 82 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: Timing is everything in volleyball, it is in other sports. 83 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,080 Do you predict this team to make it to the 84 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,759 tournament and to make a run. 85 00:04:07,639 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: At this point no, I think they've got an opportunity 86 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,199 to get there, but they're not there yet. The thing 87 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,879 about b YU, and this has kind of been the 88 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,399 story for the last probably five six years, is they've 89 00:04:20,439 --> 00:04:23,759 had good teams, but not elite teams, and the elite 90 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:26,319 teams are the ones who make the Final four. And 91 00:04:26,439 --> 00:04:30,160 to get from good to elite, you know they're gonna 92 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,120 have to win something, win some of these close matches 93 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,560 that they've been losing. So at this point, I don't 94 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,120 think they're going to be able to get in, but 95 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,240 I think they have the talent where if they continue 96 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,639 to improve, they can put themselves in a good position 97 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:42,079 to make it. 98 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, I agree. I don't think it's in 99 00:04:46,879 --> 00:04:48,720 the making. I definitely think when you look at it 100 00:04:48,759 --> 00:04:51,120 there they can keep improving each week. But that's the 101 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,279 best part about a season is one week of a 102 00:04:53,319 --> 00:04:56,279 season can change a program. Speaking of changing a week 103 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,079 of the program, Darnelle, we were thoroughly entertained with Big Monday, 104 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,439 came down to wire a game that everybody thought by 105 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,040 you was out of just your initial takeaways and if 106 00:05:05,079 --> 00:05:07,680 you have any silver linings from that game, whilch be 107 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,279 what you look like at one point they were gonna 108 00:05:09,319 --> 00:05:12,279 win on Monday. 109 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you look at the silver lining as they were 110 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,639 able to come back in the game where they were 111 00:05:16,639 --> 00:05:21,199 down nineteen points. I tend to be not quite as 112 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,920 optimistic about the outcome. And here let me tell you why. 113 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:30,680 The first thirteen minutes of that game was really close, 114 00:05:30,879 --> 00:05:34,480 back and forth. There were nine lead changes and six ties. 115 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,040 It was two good teams going at each other, and 116 00:05:37,079 --> 00:05:39,160 you expect, Okay, this one's gonna go down to the wire. 117 00:05:40,079 --> 00:05:42,720 The last seven minutes. The first half was all Kansas. 118 00:05:43,439 --> 00:05:46,839 I mean, sorry, all Arizona. I'm looking ahead all Arizona day. 119 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,720 I think they outscored by twenty to five in that 120 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,399 seven minute period, and then they dominated most of the 121 00:05:52,439 --> 00:05:54,480 second half up until the final couple of minutes. Win 122 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,319 b why you got back in the game, and there 123 00:05:56,319 --> 00:05:59,560 were some fortuitous bounces in the ball and a few 124 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,000 calls and be the only way to get there. But 125 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,959 my point is against a team as good as Arizona, 126 00:06:05,959 --> 00:06:08,759 and there's no way anybody comes out of that game 127 00:06:08,759 --> 00:06:10,680 thinking Arizona is not the number one team in the 128 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:15,560 country because they're really good. But you can't play an 129 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,759 elite team and only play fifteen minutes out of the forty. 130 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,759 Because when you add up those totals, for fifteen minutes, 131 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,680 BYU was as good, if not in some points better 132 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,240 than Arizona, but for the other twenty five it was Arizona. 133 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,360 So to me, BYU is still going to have to 134 00:06:33,399 --> 00:06:36,240 prove and they've got an opportunity at Kansas this weekend. 135 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:41,279 They got Houston coming up on the schedule and another return, 136 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,759 you know, with Arizona going down to Tucson. They've got 137 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,199 to show that they can play more than about fifteen 138 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:51,160 minutes worth of good basketball against good teams. And so 139 00:06:51,319 --> 00:06:54,480 coming out of that, I know Kevin Young came out 140 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,000 of it saying, hey, we can compete with any team 141 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,079 in the country, and he's probably right about that. But 142 00:06:59,439 --> 00:07:02,360 I came out of it thinking, man, you just had 143 00:07:02,399 --> 00:07:06,040 your two best players, too, of your best players combined 144 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,480 to shoot nine for forty, and you can't have that 145 00:07:09,519 --> 00:07:12,079 happened in the big game. Now, it's possible that both 146 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,560 of them knew there were thirty three pro scouts in 147 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,720 the building, and maybe that made them a little bit nervous. 148 00:07:17,759 --> 00:07:20,199 They were wanting to prove something. I don't know, but 149 00:07:20,279 --> 00:07:22,839 I do think this team has a lot to proof 150 00:07:22,839 --> 00:07:27,040 still that they can get themselves against elite teams and 151 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,560 and play more than fifteen minutes. We're to good basketball. 152 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 4: Well, so buy Used, Now that's in my opinion, I 153 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,120 think that's the second time by Used done that, the 154 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,560 first time being Yukon and and maybe you can throw 155 00:07:39,639 --> 00:07:41,480 Texas Tech in there too, where they just kind of 156 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:46,519 but I think they just went well and Texas Tech 157 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,839 you just melted down and stopped playing. Fact that one, 158 00:07:48,879 --> 00:07:51,040 That one was more of a thirty out of forty minutes. 159 00:07:51,079 --> 00:07:54,720 But but for Yukon and Texas Tech, is it both times? 160 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,439 Buy Used to have the opportunity to play these teams 161 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,480 that I think most people would say sort of piably 162 00:08:01,079 --> 00:08:03,920 have the potential to make a Final Four run, and 163 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:08,800 BYU has not played very well at all for most 164 00:08:08,839 --> 00:08:12,439 of those games. Is there any worry that that's what 165 00:08:12,639 --> 00:08:15,600 this team will do going forward when they play the 166 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:20,519 Houstons and the Iowa States and Texas Tech. Again, is 167 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,240 BYU built to be able to compete for a full 168 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:25,720 game against these teams? 169 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: I think that's the challenge with the coaching staff and 170 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,039 with the Big Three is to come up bigger in 171 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,200 those games. I mean another aspect of that game is 172 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,639 that Richie Saunders fouled out of the one minute mark. 173 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,840 Dan I have him for that last play, and that 174 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:47,879 might have made a difference. I also think that, you know, 175 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,039 we look at this college basketball scene and we see teams, 176 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,360 you know, getting better, and we got to realize too 177 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,679 that there's still some adjustment periods with all of the newness, 178 00:09:00,039 --> 00:09:02,519 all the new players and the new coaches and new system. 179 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,159 And you know, each team rebuilds itself every year, and 180 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,200 even now it's a lot more that they have to 181 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,279 rebuild than they used to. So BYU as a team 182 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,840 and because they don't have the depth they had last year, 183 00:09:15,799 --> 00:09:19,159 that those top three guys have to be it every night. 184 00:09:19,919 --> 00:09:22,240 And if there is a silver lining, as Ron mentioned, 185 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:27,279 you talk about how Cannar Davis and Alexi Coast has 186 00:09:27,279 --> 00:09:32,399 made three pointers. Anybody that watches the game knows defenses 187 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,120 are prime to stop those three players Richie and AJ 188 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,000 and Rob and they're gonna be shots open and guys 189 00:09:40,039 --> 00:09:46,600 don't make them sometimes. So it's important that the Cougars 190 00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:50,519 can figure out a way to involve everybody, and it's 191 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,039 Canard has gotten out of his shooting slump. That's great, 192 00:09:53,639 --> 00:09:56,120 and we talked about there are opportunities for them to 193 00:09:56,159 --> 00:09:59,200 step up and play these good teams and get a win. 194 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,720 But right now we've seen a couple of times against 195 00:10:02,759 --> 00:10:05,559 the elite teams in the country. Yeah, they lost by 196 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,279 a little bit, but it's still lost, and they had 197 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:10,080 the opportunity to win. And they got to play better 198 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,879 for longer amounts of time. That's what I took out 199 00:10:11,879 --> 00:10:12,039 of it. 200 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, they definitely got to play better for longer amounts 201 00:10:14,759 --> 00:10:17,879 of time. And look, you know, I like to ask 202 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,519 the feel good questions sometimes if the top king is 203 00:10:21,519 --> 00:10:24,879 on the on the court, do you think Burry's blitzes 204 00:10:24,919 --> 00:10:26,440 off the weak side to go block, or do you 205 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,639 think Rob lays it up for a win? Or if 206 00:10:28,639 --> 00:10:30,320 he does blitz, do you think he kicks hit to 207 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,320 Richie and they win that game? Because I have to 208 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,120 think if Richie's on the court, they play that defensively 209 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,840 a little bit better. I have to think Tommy Lloyd 210 00:10:36,879 --> 00:10:38,799 would tell him, don't you leave Richie Saunders. 211 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, that might be the case, but you have to 212 00:10:42,639 --> 00:10:45,080 remember Cannard Davis had hit five to three pointers. 213 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:45,639 Speaker 2: This is true. 214 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, in the second half, so you know, they said, 215 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,720 you know, stick to the shooters, and Burry's decided not to. 216 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,039 And you can debate whether or not he fouled Rob. 217 00:10:56,279 --> 00:10:57,840 You know, you can slow it down and look, maybe 218 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,039 he got the arm. It was a good defensive come off. 219 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,960 And and to give Rob credit to when he drove, 220 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,360 his defender went flying off out of bounds, so he 221 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,840 was open well y fourth and this got up. He 222 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,080 had driven into the key, his defender fallen off of him, 223 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,519 and he had an opportunity right there at the rim. 224 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,120 The big for Arizona was stuck to Kaba and so 225 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,200 that that was the right move to make. And Berry's 226 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,360 just came from behind and made a play. And so 227 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,120 you know, initially when I watched the playoff, thought, why 228 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,720 are you putting the ball in Rob's hands? He's three 229 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,399 for seventeen to night or whatever he was. Yeah, and 230 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,600 you know, Kevin Young said, you know, we ride or 231 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,080 die with these guys, and and we know their winners, 232 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,639 and we know Rob had a game winner against Clemson. 233 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,279 But you know also in that that Yukon game, he 234 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,240 dribbled the ball off his foot or you know, and 235 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,480 lost control of it on the opportunity for Buau to win. 236 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,399 So it's it's a it's a situation where Rob is still, 237 00:11:57,519 --> 00:12:00,200 I think, kind of learning the college game somewhat and 238 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,679 he's going to get better in those situations. But I 239 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,679 think after looking at it, I'm like, Okay, I understand 240 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,320 why Kevin decided to go there, but I just don't 241 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,799 know if you wanted the ball to end up in 242 00:12:13,159 --> 00:12:14,879 the hands of somebody who had not had a good 243 00:12:14,919 --> 00:12:17,240 shooting game, and I don't know that. I don't know 244 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,840 if you can expect Rob to have eyes in the 245 00:12:18,879 --> 00:12:21,360 back of his head either to realize that berries had 246 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,399 come off and No was standing alone the three point line. 247 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:25,360 You just can't. 248 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,279 Speaker 2: No, you're right, you can. And maybe if you give 249 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,200 the ball to a j at length, he can spin 250 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:31,360 and see that that's coming and avoid it. And that's 251 00:12:31,399 --> 00:12:34,360 a you know, that's a nitpicking type thing. I will 252 00:12:34,399 --> 00:12:36,399 ask you this though, because Ben always says you need 253 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,919 two to three data points. Rob hit the buzzer, beat it, 254 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,960 but the play wasn't drawn up for him. It was 255 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,159 supposed to be Aj then Richie, and he was a 256 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,320 third option when Rob has been the first and again 257 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,799 he was the second option because Kevin Young said they 258 00:12:48,799 --> 00:12:52,120 took the first one away and we've seen it now 259 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,600 with Rob. Have two data points where Yukon and now this, 260 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,159 Should they put Aj in the back court Darnell and 261 00:12:58,279 --> 00:13:00,799 put Rob elsewhere? Part of me thinks, because he's getting 262 00:13:00,799 --> 00:13:03,799 fronted by Coe Pete and then Bradley's behind them. Rightfully so, 263 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,279 but should they have done that with twelve seconds rather 264 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,320 than go to Rob? You know, part of me wants 265 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,679 to feel like, Okay, you've got to get the ball 266 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,960 in the best player's hands. But at all calls should 267 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,120 they have switched that? Do you think? Or is it 268 00:13:14,279 --> 00:13:16,360 just they just they're going to live and die with, 269 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,279 you know, the second option being Rob or Richie. 270 00:13:18,279 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: Sometimes yeah, I think they'll die with that option. I 271 00:13:22,519 --> 00:13:24,399 think that getting the ball into Rob's hands as a 272 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:29,639 playmaker is probably the best idea because he's the one 273 00:13:29,639 --> 00:13:32,720 that can get into the key and penetrate. He's quick 274 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,200 enough to do that. I don't know if he's developed 275 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:41,480 the kind of instincts to know that if you drive 276 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:43,840 into the middle of the key and the defense collapses, 277 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,879 there's going to be a couple of guys wide open 278 00:13:45,919 --> 00:13:48,399 on the perimeter. I think sometimes he gets a little 279 00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:50,559 bit of blinders when he gets in there, and he's 280 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,960 good at scoring inside for his size, he really is. 281 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,120 So I think maybe it's just something that Rob's going 282 00:13:56,159 --> 00:13:59,200 to have to learn as he grows in his basketball 283 00:13:59,759 --> 00:14:04,480 edgevcation that when you drive late in the game and 284 00:14:04,519 --> 00:14:07,480 the defense SAgs, there's gonna be opportunities for guys to 285 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:08,480 be open outside of that. 286 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's where at all you always you wish 287 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,879 fifteen was in the game because you wonder if they 288 00:14:14,399 --> 00:14:16,320 if they blitzed that hard and he kicks it, I 289 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,519 have to think I would bet my mortgage, you know 290 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,279 that if Richie Sounders got the last shot of the game, 291 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,799 Darnell in the maryout center against the number one team 292 00:14:25,799 --> 00:14:28,039 in the country and he's wide open, and you're leaving 293 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,159 that he's going to bury that triple. But I can 294 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,679 live that way in my dreams, not today, this day 295 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,759 and age. But what I can live in is that 296 00:14:34,759 --> 00:14:39,320 there's a top fifteen matchup on Saturday. Is all forgiven, Darnell. 297 00:14:39,399 --> 00:14:42,440 If this team plays well against Kansas and they come 298 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,519 out of fog Allen Field House with the win, I 299 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,600 think that's a tougher place to win and play than 300 00:14:46,639 --> 00:14:48,399 Lubbock Now some will push back on me, but I 301 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,559 think if you beat Kansas for the third time and 302 00:14:51,679 --> 00:14:54,200 you get that premiere Quad one road win in that 303 00:14:54,279 --> 00:14:57,159 type of environment, and aj Ball's out and you walk out, 304 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,840 no one's thinking about Arizona or Texas Tech anymore. 305 00:15:01,559 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it appears that Darren Peterson is going to play 306 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,240 in this game. That's the last guy said, don't Yeah, 307 00:15:07,279 --> 00:15:10,480 he's going to play. How about that? And you know, 308 00:15:10,759 --> 00:15:12,960 as a general rule, you really want to win your 309 00:15:13,039 --> 00:15:15,360 home games because you know how hard it is to 310 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,799 win on the road. So now you put yourself a 311 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,639 position where you're down one in the home game situation, 312 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,600 you really need a road win. And you know, Allen 313 00:15:24,679 --> 00:15:26,720 Field House is a very difficult place to play. Their 314 00:15:26,799 --> 00:15:32,120 second in the conference in attendance to BYU. They're a 315 00:15:32,159 --> 00:15:34,679 really good defensive team in the half court. I think 316 00:15:34,679 --> 00:15:36,759 that's going to be something you can definitely watch in 317 00:15:36,799 --> 00:15:40,080 this game. They lead the Big twelve Kansas does in 318 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,679 field goal percentage defense and three point field goal percentage defense. 319 00:15:44,559 --> 00:15:46,919 So in the half court, they're difficult to score against. 320 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,639 So you want to get some transition. You want to 321 00:15:48,679 --> 00:15:52,039 get to the foul line if you can. And I 322 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,200 think that over the course of the season, AJ has 323 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:56,840 been able to do that in most games, but on 324 00:15:56,879 --> 00:15:59,200 the road that becomes a little more difficult because you 325 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,000 don't get those home maybe as much. So it's it's 326 00:16:03,039 --> 00:16:06,159 a great opportunity for this team to put that loss 327 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,879 behind them on Monday and show what they can do. 328 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,600 I don't think you're going to find another game where 329 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,480 robin Aga combined to go nine for forty or hopefully 330 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,159 they'll they'll shoot the ball better and defensively, they're not 331 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,320 going to get maybe as lost as they were against 332 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,639 those Kansas Scars because man Burry's and Bradlett were just 333 00:16:24,759 --> 00:16:28,279 fantastic in that first half. There was just nothing defensively 334 00:16:28,279 --> 00:16:30,120 the way you could do to slow those guys down, 335 00:16:31,039 --> 00:16:32,720 And I think they figured a few things out in 336 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,159 the second half to force them to take some more 337 00:16:35,159 --> 00:16:40,919 difficult shots. But that Arizona team is maybe the best 338 00:16:40,919 --> 00:16:44,080 offensive team in the country and definitely, you know, shoot 339 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,799 better than fifty percent every game and they get lots 340 00:16:46,799 --> 00:16:51,360 of points inside the key. So hopefully they've learned some 341 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,799 defensive lessons in that game. But it's going to be 342 00:16:53,799 --> 00:16:56,360 a tough one. I mean, it's an afternoon game the 343 00:16:56,399 --> 00:16:59,559 field house will be full. And we all know the 344 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,759 situation a couple of years ago when Mark Pup was 345 00:17:01,799 --> 00:17:05,400 coaching and and Dollen Hall stuck that jumper top of 346 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,960 the key to to light up that and and for 347 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:11,279 me or you to win in Allen field House, that 348 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,839 was fantastic and it was It's another opportunity on Saturday 349 00:17:15,279 --> 00:17:15,680 Double D. 350 00:17:15,799 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 2: I revealed I've said multiple times and I keep saying 351 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,960 it because it's it's funny for me to say, but 352 00:17:21,079 --> 00:17:24,480 that's Hunter Dickinson belongs to Dallan Hall. Dollen Hall is 353 00:17:24,559 --> 00:17:27,720 Hunter Dickinson's daddy. You know all jokes because of that shot. 354 00:17:27,799 --> 00:17:30,559 And look, look I even revealed it. He's gone now. 355 00:17:30,839 --> 00:17:32,960 I wait for players to graduate, for them to lead 356 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:35,039 b YU, so I don't get in any trouble. I 357 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,599 talked to doll In his parents, mom and dad after 358 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,319 the game, and Dalla said he tried to do it again. 359 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,880 He said he tried to recreate it. You remember the 360 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,880 shot he took it as at oh and it point 361 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,079 it pointed straight up. It was a big time brick, 362 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,200 but he tried to re enact it. I don't blame 363 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,279 him either, because when you hit a shot like that 364 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,319 on the road. That's like an all time great shot 365 00:17:52,319 --> 00:17:53,200 in my opinion. 366 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,559 Speaker 3: Darnell, it is, and it's it's one that b where 367 00:17:56,559 --> 00:18:00,759 you fans remember and and you know, even the media 368 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:02,720 who traveled to that game, and I was not as 369 00:18:02,759 --> 00:18:05,039 fortunate to go to that one, but I know talking 370 00:18:05,079 --> 00:18:07,039 to some of the other media that went just to 371 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,839 be there in that arena, and I had similar feelings, 372 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,119 you know, traveling to different locations for other sports, like 373 00:18:14,559 --> 00:18:17,200 going to you know, a Notre Dame stadium for the 374 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,279 first time and walking on that field and realizing the 375 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,480 games that have been played there, same as Allen fieldhals. 376 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,880 There's been some fantastic games played there and amazing players 377 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,519 went on to be great pro players and win national championships, 378 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:34,799 and it's historic and it's fun and it's it's one 379 00:18:34,799 --> 00:18:37,599 of the main reasons why people love that b why 380 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,960 you joined the Big Twelve, because you have those opportunities 381 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,799 now and you don't have to watch other teams just 382 00:18:43,839 --> 00:18:45,440 take them. You get a chance to go play there 383 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:45,799 as well. 384 00:18:47,279 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I made the case. 385 00:18:50,799 --> 00:18:52,559 Speaker 4: I said this earlier in the show, and I want 386 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:56,640 to get your thoughts on this take. I think that 387 00:18:56,799 --> 00:18:59,920 the winner of this game. I think this has big 388 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,160 seeding implications in March, that the winner of this game 389 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,880 will be one seed higher than the loser. I think 390 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,680 they're that close. Do you see it being that that 391 00:19:09,839 --> 00:19:12,759 big of a game at this point in the season. 392 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, few By can't just be here. You're pretty close, 393 00:19:17,079 --> 00:19:20,599 and not just rankings, but in the net ranking and 394 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:25,960 some other things. Yeah, I can kind of see that. 395 00:19:26,039 --> 00:19:28,720 It seems early in the season to you know, take 396 00:19:28,759 --> 00:19:32,039 that stand. But we also know that because by you 397 00:19:32,079 --> 00:19:35,799 can't play in the Sunday Regionals, that they're a little 398 00:19:35,839 --> 00:19:39,839 bit limited and sometimes they drop a seed just because 399 00:19:39,839 --> 00:19:44,240 of that reason. And so any opportunity BYU has to 400 00:19:44,279 --> 00:19:46,960 beat a team that has a high net ranking to 401 00:19:47,039 --> 00:19:50,079 improve their ability to be seated high is really important. 402 00:19:50,519 --> 00:19:53,880 The coach has built the schedule in the non conference 403 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,799 to put themselves in the best position to get a 404 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,480 higher seed, and so they've done that. Now is the 405 00:20:00,519 --> 00:20:03,920 opportunities that come up more often in the Big twelve 406 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,160 plays you have a team with a high net ranking. Now, 407 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,119 when you lose to that team doesn't necessarily hurt your 408 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,720 net ranking, but if they go down and the committee 409 00:20:11,759 --> 00:20:15,599 starts looking at what you've done when they make their 410 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,400 decisions for the NCAA Tournament. Those kind of wins make 411 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,559 a big difference. So yeah, I think it's a really 412 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,279 big weekend for the Cougars and a win here could 413 00:20:25,319 --> 00:20:27,720 put them in the position they want to be where 414 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,599 there are three or a four seed instead of five 415 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:30,200 verse six. 416 00:20:30,839 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 2: It's a good point and they have you brought that up, 417 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,720 and I agree with them. I mean, right now, I 418 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,240 think they're still flirting with that three seed, but because 419 00:20:36,279 --> 00:20:38,599 of Sunday implications, they could get bumped to a four. 420 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,240 That's why they need if they win Darnel, they win 421 00:20:41,279 --> 00:20:44,119 these next two games on the road, and obviously there's 422 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,839 a lot of season left, but do you think if 423 00:20:45,839 --> 00:20:48,079 they win these next on the roaw Kansas Oklahoma State, 424 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,359 does that start to solidify them in that three seed 425 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,079 maybe and get them up to that two seed range, 426 00:20:53,079 --> 00:20:55,359 Because with the Sunday implications, if they keep losing these 427 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,599 quad one games at home or on the road, they're 428 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,440 in potential, I think danger of being a four seed, 429 00:20:59,519 --> 00:21:00,880 and I don't think you can make a push at 430 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:01,359 that point. 431 00:21:03,599 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably. I mean, it's fun to speculate, but 432 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,400 it is league. It's just it's a difficult to really 433 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,160 predict week to week. I remember last year was a 434 00:21:13,279 --> 00:21:15,880 Kansas State that went on like a five game winning streak. 435 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,599 Yeah it was four or five. That's I mean in 436 00:21:19,599 --> 00:21:21,640 this league, that can happen. A team can get hot 437 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,960 and just start playing really well. I mean, who knows, 438 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,440 it could be Utah or Colorado or one of those 439 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,480 teams that's near the bottom of the league can step 440 00:21:28,559 --> 00:21:31,799 up and just start knocking teams off. So you, you know, 441 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,559 as meat members, we can look ahead at different games 442 00:21:35,599 --> 00:21:39,240 and different lineups and teams and matchups, and the coaches 443 00:21:39,279 --> 00:21:41,960 while I'll say we only take, you know, our next opponent, 444 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,599 we'ren't worried about the other games. And you really have 445 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,920 to take that tact in this league because anybody can 446 00:21:48,039 --> 00:21:50,759 rise up and beat you and put you with your 447 00:21:50,799 --> 00:21:52,079 back against the wall. A little bit. 448 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 2: Calling it right now, double D calling it right now 449 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,759 BYU win streak Kansas, Oklahoma, Houston, Baylor. I'm just kidding, 450 00:22:00,799 --> 00:22:03,720 it's nuts. That's not the case. We'd all be shocked. 451 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,759 But I will say this though, I will say out 452 00:22:05,799 --> 00:22:08,880 of the next six games that I mentioned, three of 453 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,279 them are Quad one games. Excuse me out of the six, 454 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,480 four are Quad one games, three on the road. If 455 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,559 you're able to get two out of the to get 456 00:22:15,559 --> 00:22:17,240 two of those games on the road, that does help. 457 00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:19,720 I think your resume bumps. You up to now six 458 00:22:19,759 --> 00:22:22,200 and three in Quad one games, and you're gonna need 459 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,880 to two premier Quad one wins. I think Taboos's resume. 460 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,200 I think that's what the bracketologies are saying, Darnell, we 461 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,480 need to get you out of here. We'll get you 462 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,559 out of here on this How do you have this 463 00:22:31,599 --> 00:22:34,759 one plan out on Saturday? What do you think happens 464 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,400 is Bay you finally get that Quad one win on 465 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,799 the road and turn it around. 466 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,039 Speaker 3: You know how I unlook predictions, Ronnie. 467 00:22:43,039 --> 00:22:45,079 Speaker 2: I mean, I think I'm asking for a score prediction. 468 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 3: I think they'll play better for a longer amount of 469 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,519 time than they played on Monday. Let's say that. I 470 00:22:52,519 --> 00:22:56,680 don't think Kansas is Arizona by any means, but it's 471 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,880 going to be really fun to watch. Peterson and and 472 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,160 the Boons will go at ease each other. They've done 473 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,759 it before in their high school careers. I think Darren 474 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,200 scored like fifty and Aja scored like forty nine or something. 475 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,160 It was crazy, So they're both going to take that personally. 476 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,319 So it's a great one on one matchup. And for 477 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,559 b YU, they just have to have guys like Kennard 478 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,400 Davis and Alexi and some of the other guys off 479 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,559 the bench just be solid and do the right things 480 00:23:22,599 --> 00:23:25,839 and put them in a position where they take advantage 481 00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:29,359 of their opportunities when the defense is focused on the 482 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,680 Big three. So I think BNYU has a really good 483 00:23:31,759 --> 00:23:33,599 chance of winning this game. Kansas has been on a 484 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,279 roll lately, but they've proven that they are vulnerable. They're 485 00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:38,960 not going to be great even with Darren Peterson, and 486 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,720 they've lost some games. So it's a classic matchup. Can't 487 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:44,240 wait for it. 488 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: You wonder how much Kamba Kaba is going to play 489 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,079 a factor. He was named to Defensive Player of the Week, 490 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,519 you know the twenty twenty six Na Smith. You wonder 491 00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:54,480 what factor do be Doo and Kaba have. But I 492 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,680 can tell you this, you cannot let Darren Peterson and 493 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,359 crew get you and foul troub but that's for sure, 494 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,759 Double d Before I let you go, what's the best 495 00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:02,519 way we can support you? What you do, how you 496 00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:04,559 do it? Where can I find that beautiful work. 497 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 3: Earldextru dot com is the best place. And then I 498 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,119 sometimes tweet I know xing, I don't know. We call it. 499 00:24:13,559 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: Tweeting xing. Both are okay in my opinion. 500 00:24:16,319 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: And I try to be clever, so you know you 501 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,079 can be your own judge of that. 502 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 2: Hey, all I gotta say is Canard Davis Jr. Was 503 00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:26,960 hearing your tweeting xing zetting because he learned how to 504 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,279 play his role of shooting threes when someone passes it 505 00:24:29,319 --> 00:24:31,480 to you and not calling his own number. So he 506 00:24:31,519 --> 00:24:34,079 saw your your comments. He did kidded he didn't see 507 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,640 your comments, but I hope he heard them and he 508 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,759 felt them in his loins, in his bosom because he 509 00:24:37,799 --> 00:24:39,400 had a great half. And if he shoots like that, 510 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,720 I don't think AJ and Robb will go nine to forty. 511 00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:43,599 I think bo he's got a great shot for Saturday. 512 00:24:43,759 --> 00:24:45,559 I look forward to this game. Darnella, We will catch 513 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:46,319 up with you next week. 514 00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 3: All right, doctu lated It's. 515 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,519 Speaker 2: Darnel Dixon of the Daily herod in the Little Cougar 516 00:24:51,559 --> 00:24:53,880 Beat right there. I appreciate double D joining me. Guys. 517 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,279 That segment was brought to you no other than Primo 518 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,480 Golf appiro dot com. Look, a lot of us need 519 00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:03,000 some stretchy pants. You need to fine twine lennings. You 520 00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:05,839 need a pair of pants. 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If you want to look good, feel good, 561 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,880 and do good, elevate your suit game today at Odion 562 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,440 Menswear dot Colm. Without further, let's get out to the 563 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,119 hotline again and welcome in the past. Breakup King Uh, 564 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,640 the best looking man here at ESPN the fan and 565 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,559 on our station that we have on we got Brian 566 00:27:09,599 --> 00:27:10,400 Logan on the line below. 567 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:16,559 Speaker 5: How we doing, brother, You're funny man. I don't be careful, 568 00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:18,960 be careful with the compliments. I don't need no more. 569 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll stick to the prayers. Did no compliments. I'll 570 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,279 stick to the prayers. 571 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 5: Did uh? 572 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,279 Speaker 3: But look at that? 573 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 2: Look I don't. I don't. I don't say things that 574 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,000 aren't true. I do say things that can be a 575 00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:35,000 little bit stretching the truth. But I don't just straight 576 00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:37,440 up lie. The Lord says don't lie, So I try 577 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,200 not to. And if I make mistakes, then I do 578 00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:43,039 try to repent on Sundays, try to do my best. Below, 579 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,640 we were reading the article earlier. I don't know if 580 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,839 you saw this, but there was some controversy with the 581 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,480 targeting called college football targeting rule could be headed for 582 00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:55,440 an overhaul, but it's not going away. Obviously. One of 583 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,359 the players for Miami had to sit out. The coach 584 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,000 called it unjust because you had to sit out the 585 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,200 first two quarters of the game. Now, for the fans 586 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,559 and the people listening don't understand, targeting is when you 587 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,440 use the crown of the helmet to the head or 588 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,960 the neck area of a defenseless player, and if you 589 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,680 do so, you are then kicked out of the game. 590 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,119 You can still stay on the sidelines. If it happens 591 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,400 in the first half of the game, you're done for 592 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,640 the rest of that game. You could play in the 593 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,680 next game, But if it happens in the second half, 594 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,559 you didn't have to sit out the first half of 595 00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:25,839 the game. That happened for one Miami player. Miami's coach 596 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,519 called it unjust below. Do you believe it's unjust to 597 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,640 have someone sit out of a National championship game for 598 00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:33,279 this rule? 599 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,559 Speaker 5: I think it's unjust to have any player sit out 600 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:44,240 of any game, regardless of the magnitude. It's unfortunate though, 601 00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:47,000 that it happened in the National Championship game, to have 602 00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:51,920 one of your best players all out and all year, 603 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,680 all through the playoffs, and then and the biggest game 604 00:28:56,759 --> 00:29:00,960 that he's needed most, he can't play. Like that's that's crazy. 605 00:29:01,599 --> 00:29:03,440 It's crazy, man. I don't like it. I don't like 606 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,599 the rule. I never did. I understand player safety and 607 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,680 and whatnot, but I don't know if it's I don't 608 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,759 think it's one hundred percent objective when it comes to 609 00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:19,519 the judgment, right, because if you look at multiple targeting 610 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:26,519 calls across you know, like high school, college, NFL, well, 611 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,920 NFL does they don't even have it, right, I mean 612 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,559 they have personal thousands, they don't have it objected. Yeah, 613 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,759 so if the NFL doesn't have it, come on now, 614 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,759 like and those are grown, grown men and everybody's probably 615 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:47,240 three four inches taller and twenty to forty pounds heavier 616 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:52,880 per position and run you know, way faster, So there's 617 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,599 there's way bigger collisions there and they don't even they 618 00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:59,039 don't even have that. So I just I think I 619 00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:01,599 think it's not as black and white. You look at 620 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,119 a couple of them, and there's times where we're like, 621 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,759 that's targeting. There's other times where we're like, that's not targeting. 622 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,720 So it's I think it's I think to have a 623 00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:15,400 rule that has a little bit of gray area, it's 624 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,279 it's it's hard. It's hard to make a rule like that, 625 00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:22,599 especially a rule that can take out one of your 626 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,279 most impactful players, you know, in any given game throughout 627 00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:28,880 the season. I think I think a solution should be 628 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,920 if they want it, if they want to enforce it 629 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,559 in some type of way, maybe maybe do it like basketball, right, 630 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,000 like your first your first tech you get it, and 631 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,079 then your second tech you out right. Maybe something like that. 632 00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:44,920 If you have two targetings per game, maybe you're out 633 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,960 for the rest of the game, but you don't get 634 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,119 suspended for the next game. 635 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:50,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, you bring up a good point. I mean, just 636 00:30:50,839 --> 00:30:53,759 to reset for the people, for the fans, just a reminder. 637 00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:57,039 Miami cornerback Xavier Lucas spent the first two quarters sideline 638 00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:59,440 as part of a targeting valley committed in the second 639 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,759 half of the previous game. The semifinal went over ole 640 00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:05,720 miss that cost Miami fifteen fifteen yards and penalties. Lucas 641 00:31:05,839 --> 00:31:08,000 was disqualified and that carried over and he had to 642 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,519 miss the first half of the National Championship out against Indiana. 643 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,599 Still crazy to think that that happened all this week. 644 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 5: How many and how many yards? How many? How many? 645 00:31:16,839 --> 00:31:20,039 How many passing yards the Indiana's quarterback have in the 646 00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:25,039 second half? Not a lot, that's my pointy. I mean, 647 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,160 I don't know their structure. I don't follow Miami football 648 00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:35,759 like that, but anybody that knows football understands that when 649 00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:39,960 you play, yeah it's one on one individually, and yeah 650 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:45,440 it is you know, a team effort, especially on defense. 651 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,640 You know, dun your one eleventh or whatnot. But people 652 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,160 really don't understand the unit within that those eleven players, right, Like, 653 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,359 you're a defensive line, that's one UNI linebackers, that's one 654 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,200 UNI dbs. That's one unit. You can even go up 655 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,920 further and say the safety in the corner. That's another 656 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,200 unit within a unit. And so when one person is 657 00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:09,039 out of sync, it all messes up. He's starting for 658 00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:11,559 a reason. So you're gonna have somebody that comes in 659 00:32:11,599 --> 00:32:14,680 that's a second string player. I'm not saying he's not good, 660 00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:17,720 but he not starting for a reason. Another guy is. 661 00:32:18,319 --> 00:32:22,279 And so when you talk about units and being you know, 662 00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:25,759 in sync, right in unison with each other. You remove 663 00:32:25,799 --> 00:32:29,440 one of those players and man pieces like things start 664 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,680 to crumble. And you saw when he came back. I'm 665 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,839 not saying he had a direct impact. I'm just saying 666 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,000 that it could be a correlation, you know when it 667 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,960 comes of first half yards and second half passing yards, 668 00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:40,640 you know with Indiana. 669 00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely think there's a correlation. I agree with you. 670 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,559 I think back to the BYU Arizona game, right, I 671 00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:48,839 know that there was a delay with weather, but Keanu 672 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,519 Tonavasa going out of the game, and then they call 673 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,000 what should have been just roughing the passer with Isaiah 674 00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:56,720 glasher To called targeting and all of that mumble trumple 675 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,759 We're not going to get into. But Keanu being out 676 00:32:58,759 --> 00:32:59,960 of the game, you saw it was on the Star 677 00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:01,640 to run the ball a little bit more. They were 678 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,720 able to run play action a little bit better and 679 00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:06,559 throw the football. And I think that you can't tell 680 00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:09,279 me that that didn't impact Buyu's chances. Not saying that 681 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:10,680 they would have run away with the game, but would 682 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,000 it looked to be like another blowout below ended up 683 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,799 being an overtime game, be double overtime win for BYU 684 00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:17,559 because Keanu couldn't play the rest of the game. 685 00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. And the thing with like being being in 686 00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:26,119 a unit, right, like having a family for an example, 687 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,160 but you know your wife, she knows you. You know 688 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,119 your kids, they know you, vice versa. Like like with 689 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,279 my brothers. Like my brothers, I'd be like, ooh, don't oh, 690 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,400 don't put that in that track, don't put that you 691 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,599 put it, put that in in the recycling bent, don't 692 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,000 put that in the trash in that that's gonna whoop you. You 693 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,680 know what I'm saying, Like like we understand each other's 694 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,119 tendencies and the same thing, especially on defensive line, right, 695 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,359 Like I know what the guys the right and the 696 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,640 left of me is going to do in certain situations, 697 00:33:57,799 --> 00:34:02,559 like in like live game, in the play during the 698 00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:06,599 snap of the ball, if something happens that's unexpected, I 699 00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:10,360 know this guy well enough to know that he's gonna 700 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,559 do this type of move, So I need to make 701 00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:16,159 up for that move. I know he's gonna make based 702 00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:18,599 off of his tendencies. So you bring somebody new in 703 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,360 and you got to think about it. First team players 704 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,199 they take first team reps with other first team players. 705 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:29,280 You know what I'm saying, Like, there's no there. You 706 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,280 have your first team players, second team, second stream, third 707 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,960 none those those whatever team you're on, there may be 708 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,800 a couple occasionally some rotations here and there, but usually 709 00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:45,480 when you do rotate, like BYU rotates a lot, usually 710 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,400 it's the whole line that goes out, right, it may 711 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,519 not just be just one guy. So yeah, you can. 712 00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:55,159 You can definitely see how one player and impactful player 713 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,199 can can really change the outcome of a game when 714 00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:00,480 they're not being when they're at present. 715 00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:04,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, you definitely can't and you see it. So, I mean, 716 00:35:04,599 --> 00:35:06,639 we had we discussed this. I get your thoughts on this. 717 00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:09,320 Are you in favor of Okay, they don't get kicked 718 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,360 out of the game, they treated like the NFL and 719 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,199 then they go back and review tape and then find 720 00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:14,960 players for because that's what they do in the NFL. 721 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,679 And I think that to me, us we feel that's 722 00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:19,000 the right way to go. Keep players in these games 723 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,800 and then treat them as adults because now that's what 724 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,679 you're preparing them for and they're making money, like you know, 725 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,960 the next level. Anyway, give them a fine for it, 726 00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:27,719 get a reasonable price of that, and then you keep 727 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,000 it pushing because I believe it's it's gonna be catastrophic 728 00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:32,920 for these games to continue to have these moments where 729 00:35:33,039 --> 00:35:34,840 big time players are not playing your big time games. 730 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,199 I don't want to see that as a college football 731 00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:36,760 fan anymore. 732 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 5: Where's the money going to? 733 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,559 Speaker 2: That's a good question. I haven't thought that far that see, 734 00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:47,760 but that's why that's why you're here. But all I 735 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,239 know is that I don't know where the money's going. 736 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,159 What are your thoughts? Where should the money go to? 737 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,280 That was just a good idea of like key players 738 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,880 in games, because you know, there has to be some 739 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,559 accountability right of the rule, and that's what they do 740 00:35:57,559 --> 00:35:59,400 in the NFL. You know, maybe you go back and 741 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,159 do this depends like you said second one, and then 742 00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:05,239 you're gone, you know, like on sportsmanlike conduct. But like 743 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,199 do they not still go back and find people or 744 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,039 is it internally with the team. I don't know what 745 00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:11,519 the answer is, but I think having that conversation can 746 00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:12,280 lead to somewhere. 747 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think accountability for sure. You know, you can't 748 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:22,199 just you can't just and and to be honest with you, you know, 749 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,440 just despite what it looks like on paper targeting even 750 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,159 though it's to protect, uh, you know, defensive player, it's 751 00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:33,679 really it's really for the for the defender, you know 752 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,679 what I mean, Like the defender when you when you 753 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,159 when you put your crime at the head down, right, 754 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,719 like you have your chances of getting paralyzed jurassically go up. 755 00:36:46,199 --> 00:36:48,000 And this this is like this is science, right because 756 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,239 now you're putting your sign in jeopardy. Uh A defensive 757 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,119 player like, yeah, he can, he can get knocked out, 758 00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:55,079 but he gonna wake up and he may have to 759 00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:57,639 take a couple of weeks off or concussion or whatever, 760 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,400 but eventually he's gonna be back. Uh. You not if 761 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,559 you if you have a wrong hit with your head 762 00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:09,039 down and and your spinal cord is compressed and you 763 00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:10,920 end up not being able to walk for the rest 764 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,159 of your life. Like that's a that's a you know, 765 00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:15,599 And I'm not trying to take away from you know, 766 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,639 not protecting offensive players, but at the end of the day, 767 00:37:18,679 --> 00:37:23,119 it's it's truly for the defensive player. So I do 768 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:29,519 I do agree with the accountability and being staates. I would, 769 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:38,239 And so in the NFL, allegedly fines go to charities, right, 770 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,480 I don't believe that I'm just saying allegedly to protect 771 00:37:41,679 --> 00:37:44,079 you know you and the program, and I know being 772 00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:46,239 not here, so I know how you think it was 773 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,159 about how he feels about me when I when I 774 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,559 talk about my conspiracy and the Earth's flight and all 775 00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:56,159 that I've signed, I've just haided to be politically correct. 776 00:37:57,559 --> 00:38:00,320 And so I think I think there could be a 777 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:06,800 away where people that are giving out those fines are 778 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,800 doing it more to increase their pockets. So I think 779 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,079 we got to be mindful of that, right I do. 780 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:21,800 I do think that anytime you hurt anybody's pockets, like 781 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,880 actions are going to dractically change. That's just simple. This 782 00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:29,800 is a text. So I do. I do like that approach. 783 00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:32,519 I do like that. I'd have to ponder about it 784 00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:37,480 a little bit more to see, uh, you know, positive 785 00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:39,920 like like the pros and the cons. But I do 786 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:46,440 know that any time you touch somebody's wallet, and that 787 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:51,199 is based off their behavior, behavior changes overnight. So it 788 00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:52,800 could be a good solution period. 789 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,079 Speaker 2: And that's the first time Bilo is love one of 790 00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:57,199 my ideas where I thought they're like not anything ron 791 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,559 So hopefully that is. But That's why I went That's 792 00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:02,039 why we went that way, because when you start touching 793 00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:05,239 people dollars, people shave up real quick. I've seen it 794 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,920 in all aspects of everything. People don't like the money touch, 795 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,599 and people don't like the women, they food, they family. 796 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,639 Certain things people don't like, and money is definitely one 797 00:39:12,639 --> 00:39:14,719 of them. Missing that top five. I think for sure. 798 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,320 We got Brian Logan on the line and they keeping 799 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,599 up with the Cougar segment discussing off season college football news. 800 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,800 One of the news on the news and notes. I 801 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,800 don't know if we asked you your thoughts on it. Tomorrow, 802 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,199 Warren Official was on the board with with a corner position. 803 00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:31,440 Mississippi State transfer Javin Williams is now signed with the 804 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,239 Cougars the six for two. He's on campus, by the way, 805 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,320 people that know the six to two hundred and ninety 806 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,599 pounds corner boosts BYU's roster. We know that Marie Bomba 807 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,000 is declared for the draft. He's gone, he takes that scholarship. 808 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,719 They're still looking for one more guy because Tavion Bezi's 809 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,719 at USF for that Nickel spot your thoughts below on 810 00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:51,159 Javin Williams and coming I like the six for two. 811 00:39:51,199 --> 00:39:53,719 I like the one hundred and ninety pounds and bringing that. 812 00:39:54,039 --> 00:39:55,920 What are your thoughts on this addition to the cornerback 813 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:56,719 room for BYU. 814 00:39:58,679 --> 00:40:02,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw that all the you know, the height 815 00:40:02,159 --> 00:40:08,000 and the weight, and I think five or seven years ago, 816 00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:12,639 I would have been a static and you know, I 817 00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:14,920 would have I would have been jumping up and down 818 00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:19,360 and and uh man, I thought that it was manna 819 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,360 from heaven. You know that that that guy you know 820 00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:28,840 dropped down. But it's normal now, man like like like 821 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,480 these are prototypical you know, b Yu corners now and 822 00:40:33,519 --> 00:40:36,880 it's great to see and it's great to to to 823 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,119 see that a guy like that that you know is 824 00:40:40,119 --> 00:40:44,840 coming from the sec to have interest right that. I 825 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,039 think that's the next step is. And I'm not sure 826 00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:51,000 what his religion is. I'm gonna assume he's a double 827 00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:57,599 minority and yeah, so so I think that's the next step, right, 828 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,920 is to get more double minority to to to come 829 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,280 to provo and have the interest to in provo and 830 00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:09,639 kind of remove any type of uh, you know, I 831 00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:11,880 don't want to say biased, but you know, you hear 832 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,639 a lot of stuff when you're on the recruiting trail 833 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,559 and people find out that you're getting recruited by b yuh, 834 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,480 that pitch turns to all the negative things that Provo 835 00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:27,719 you know has to offer, and instead of the pitch 836 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,039 continuing to talk about how great their school is and 837 00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:33,840 why you should you know, attend there. And so I think, 838 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,639 I think the more that we can have, especially you know, 839 00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:38,840 in those positions is a great thing. I haven't looked 840 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:45,599 at his film. What's what concerns me about the transfer 841 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:51,760 portal era is that there's a reason why the majority 842 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,000 of the reason why kids transfer is because they're not playing, 843 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,519 right would you? Would you agree with that statement? 844 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Not even a close one hundred percent. 845 00:42:00,639 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 5: Right right now. Obviously there's other situations where I'm transferring 846 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,800 because I'm going to make more money. So my next 847 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,000 question is, because I haven't done research on them, is 848 00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:14,599 was he a starter at Mississippi State? 849 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 2: You was not? 850 00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 5: Okay, So now we're getting begetting back to my concern. 851 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:27,840 If you weren't starting at Mississippi State, that can tell 852 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,079 us you weren't good enough right to play to start. 853 00:42:32,559 --> 00:42:34,719 And I'm not I'm not I'm not knocking him out. 854 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,800 I'm just this is a general a general statement that 855 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,280 I'm making because he could have had all Americans in 856 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,280 front of him, right, he could have a four year start, Like, 857 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,280 we don't know its take the yeah, we don't know that. 858 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,719 We don't know all those things. And so my, my, 859 00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:52,639 I don't want to say concern so much. It's just 860 00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:56,159 that if you were number two here, what makes you 861 00:42:56,199 --> 00:42:58,239 think you're going to be at number one here? Is 862 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,400 it opportunity? Again, I don't know this. There is a 863 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,719 situation what I've seen with b YU specifically in the 864 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,719 transfer porter. You guys can tell me if I'm right 865 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,519 or wrong. The kids that are coming up from the sts, 866 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,119 you know schools or even the lower division schools like 867 00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:17,800 a Utah State and the transfer to b y U, 868 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,199 those those kids tend the ball out. Those are the 869 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,679 kids that tend to really make an impact on the 870 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:31,159 roster in my experience, Like, you guys know this stuff 871 00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:33,920 way more than me. You know, Yeah, and my analyst 872 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,679 on b YU TV and it's my job. I don't 873 00:43:36,679 --> 00:43:38,920 even know the starters. Tell you right now, I'm not 874 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,039 gonna liket to you. The second string guy come in. 875 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,199 I'm looking at the breakfast street, like, who's that guy 876 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,079 I got. I have Darrem on my side, like, dam 877 00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:48,400 who's that? He's like, Bro, you should you should be 878 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:55,719 known this that. I'm like, No, don't tell anybody, guys 879 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,880 to tell me who he is. You know, like you 880 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,119 guys know this stuff more than me. But from my experience, 881 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,559 when you get a guy from a cow or from 882 00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:07,440 an Oregon or from a Stanford, they tend to not 883 00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:09,800 really pan out. And I think that goes back to 884 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,159 my first point I was making that you know, if 885 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,519 it's if it's a big time school, that that thats 886 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,239 a guy from big time school that transfers over to 887 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,039 b YU. I don't, like, have you really seen the 888 00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:25,320 true impact? 889 00:44:26,199 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's few and far between. The guys that 890 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,079 are coming or the high level guys are the ones 891 00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:32,760 that you know, it had to work really hard, like 892 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,480 the Jay Robbs, like the Jack Kellies. Because now, and 893 00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:37,679 those are the anomalies, right because I'm with you, we're 894 00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:40,159 on the same way. Anomalies. Now, the guys that they're bringing, 895 00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:42,480 the kdu luaves, guys that have already been playing at 896 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,199 their former school, Guys that are already making an impact. 897 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,000 These guys, you know Jay Clifton too, You know like 898 00:44:48,039 --> 00:44:51,079 you just it's these other guys have been taking reference. 899 00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:53,800 But maybe that does bode well because would you agree 900 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,280 and would you say more it was like the third 901 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,400 cornerback and maybe this guy coming to BYU could be 902 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,480 the you know, the third cornerback in the role and 903 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,079 be okay with that because obviously we know that it 904 00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:05,960 was Trey and schmav it was Evan. But then maybe 905 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,639 when Trey got you know, dinged up a little bit 906 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,199 or was out, they did go with Maury Morri's playing well, 907 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,400 maybe him being the third option that bo he plays 908 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,920 a little bit more. Maybe they don't go to Nickel 909 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,519 package as much. Do you maybe do you think he 910 00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:18,840 could fit in that third role because he's not taking 911 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,400 time away from the other two. I'm in agreeing with 912 00:45:20,519 --> 00:45:20,920 you there. 913 00:45:23,519 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 5: You know, if Coach g was still here and uh, 914 00:45:27,039 --> 00:45:30,119 Coach Hill, I would I would I would say you're 915 00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:33,960 onto something, uh in regards to hey, you know we 916 00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:38,480 you know Maury's gone. We're not looking for a starter. 917 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,440 We're looking for somebody that I can come in and 918 00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:45,599 be a relief pitcher for us when we need it. Right, 919 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,760 So maybe we don't like we don't have to shoot 920 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,840 for these five star, four star impact type of players. 921 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,480 But we need we need a player that can do 922 00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:57,440 just enough, like a backup quarterback in the NFL, right, 923 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:03,000 you Like, there's literally a skill set and there's certain 924 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,400 intangibles that NFL scouts and teams and GMS they look 925 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,599 at like, oh yeah, he's a he's a great backup 926 00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:16,719 quarterback for ten years. He's not a starter. But we 927 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,760 know if he's on our team and our quarterback goes 928 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,440 down for two three games, he could he can he could, 929 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,239 he could or four games he could split those. He 930 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,559 can win us two he could lose to that. They 931 00:46:24,559 --> 00:46:27,920 were fine with that, and and so if they were 932 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,039 still so still here, I would I would agree with that. 933 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:37,920 I would. You know, understand that we don't know now right, Yeah, yeah, 934 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,840 we don't. We don't, we don't. We don't know like that, 935 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,119 that that three corner, Like when Coach g was here 936 00:46:44,199 --> 00:46:47,800 these last couple of years, that was something that we 937 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,920 knew as fans. The average fan knew that Bluyu plays 938 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,840 three corners regardless who they are, who they are, where 939 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:59,880 they where they're at in you know, uh uh they're 940 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,239 uh they're great. 941 00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 3: Right. 942 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,639 Speaker 5: It was a kind of a three cornerback system. You 943 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:07,960 knew it's like receivers. 944 00:47:08,039 --> 00:47:08,199 Speaker 3: Right. 945 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,639 Speaker 5: I may not start, but I'm in the rotation, so 946 00:47:10,679 --> 00:47:11,840 I'm pretty much a starter. 947 00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 3: Uh. 948 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,679 Speaker 5: But yeah, we don't you know, we don't. We don't 949 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,760 know how how that philosophy and you know, with with 950 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,719 with the new defensive coordinator, and I shouldn't say that 951 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:28,760 I should respect him more. It came back my homie. Yeah, 952 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,400 we we just don't. 953 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,039 Speaker 3: We just don't know. 954 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:35,320 Speaker 5: So, I mean, obviously, I think the basics and the 955 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:42,119 foundation of the intangibles are there. Height, weight, speed, athleticism. 956 00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:45,280 Now let's see if he can put the coaches that 957 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,880 can help me put the mental side together, and see 958 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,960 if he can learn the defense as quick as possible 959 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,119 so he can't get on the field, uh and make 960 00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:53,679 an impact. 961 00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:58,159 Speaker 2: Valid points from Brian Brian Logan from you don't know 962 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,880 what the Mario Warren having him play call at this 963 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,039 high of a level. He asked, play called it boys, 964 00:48:03,079 --> 00:48:04,920 stay in my west. But like you when I mean 965 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,639 play call me coaching guys. Well, we'll see, but this 966 00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:09,079 is the first one off the board. We'll see what 967 00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:11,239 he does. There needs to be a great speriod. But 968 00:48:11,519 --> 00:48:13,480 you bring up good points be low before I let 969 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,480 you go. H Outside of prayers, what's the best way 970 00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:18,840 we could support you what you're doing? How you do it? Brother? 971 00:48:21,639 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 972 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 5: Just prayers? Hey, prayers, man, Just prayer for me. Everybody. 973 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,000 Just put me in your top five prayer list. You know, 974 00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:32,519 if you don't got room tonight, you know, I just 975 00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:36,800 ask that you find a day tomorrow or or you know, 976 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,239 I don't want to. I don't want to hold you 977 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,599 for you know, going into the weekend. So if you 978 00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:43,639 can't get tomorrow, Monday is great as well. I definitely 979 00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:44,719 would appreciate that. 980 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,679 Speaker 2: Hey, prayers is the way to go. That's how we 981 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,639 get better and that's how we can save society is 982 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,800 more prayers, more love for sure. Below. Appreciate you to day, brother, 983 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,039 and we'll catch up with you again soon. 984 00:48:54,639 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 5: All right, man, appreciate you. Go. 985 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. You heard Brian Logan. I was 986 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,719 gokokause you miss any of that download on the podcast iTunes, 987 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,960 Speak a, Google Play, I Radio, Spotify, give us a rating, 988 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,400 give us a review. That segment was brought to you 989 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,960 by rubis In rubies In dot Com Bryce Canyon. 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