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<v Speaker 1>If you've had a bigfoot siding and I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to be a guest, please go to bigfootewitness dot com

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<v Speaker 1>and let me know.

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<v Speaker 2>I might know from spring a Flora. I'm a research

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<v Speaker 2>member for SQUATCHINGNFL. I've been researching sasquatch, bigfoot, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you gonna call them? For a little over a year now,

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<v Speaker 2>and back in September where I had my first encounter,

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<v Speaker 2>which was a complete accident, complete fluke. Because I've heard

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<v Speaker 2>all the stories and you know, I've listened to like

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast and stuff about it and the different shows

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<v Speaker 2>Monster Quest, and part of me was like maybe, and

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<v Speaker 2>the other part of me was like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of it is hogwash. And my

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriend is part of a group where they go around

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<v Speaker 2>cleaning tombstones. So we travel around with some of the

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<v Speaker 2>local cemeteries around here. We clean up the veteran stones

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<v Speaker 2>so that I try to reach out to people get permission,

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<v Speaker 2>help them out with their stones, clean them up. And

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<v Speaker 2>we just happened to find this one cemetery that was

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<v Speaker 2>just completely isolated out in the woods, but you could

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<v Speaker 2>drive right to it. It was just off of an

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<v Speaker 2>old beaten trail A two track road. So we're thinking like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what the heck, we'll go check it out, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>we drive out there, nice bumpy road, and we're laughing

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<v Speaker 2>whole time. And the whole time we're driving out, the

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<v Speaker 2>first thing in my mind I'm thinking, I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is creepy back here, like this is

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<v Speaker 2>some bizarre stuff. Pull into the cemetery right there. We

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<v Speaker 2>get out and I forget what it was we were

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<v Speaker 2>laughing at. We were joking about something, and I'm walking

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<v Speaker 2>into the cemetery. I opened up the gates to get

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<v Speaker 2>into it. And so with that, me and her still laughing,

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<v Speaker 2>just galing around, I take two steps in if you've met,

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<v Speaker 2>and something like grunted at me like as loud as

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<v Speaker 2>could be, and she vaguely heard it but didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>hear it. I felt whatever it was it hit me.

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<v Speaker 2>I was literally like mid stride and I stopped and

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<v Speaker 2>froze and look in that direction. And my first thought

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<v Speaker 2>process was, oh, crap, there's a boray here, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>something like that. I have nothing on me, no peace

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<v Speaker 2>on me, no nothing. So I'm a little nervous at

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<v Speaker 2>that point. I'm thinking like, oh man, I'm about to

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<v Speaker 2>get charged by a big old more and I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>around and I see nothing, and I'm like, what the

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<v Speaker 2>heck was that. She's making a much noise in the

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<v Speaker 2>car behind me and getting like her camera gear and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff right to start taking some pictures, and I'm like, Kelly, Kelly,

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<v Speaker 2>shout up, Kelly. Stop. She stops, and as we're sitting there,

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<v Speaker 2>she's like what. I'm like, just listen. And as we're listening,

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<v Speaker 2>we hear a tree fall down on the other side

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<v Speaker 2>adjacent to the trail, so from where we're parked at

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<v Speaker 2>it would be to our right side of the trail,

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<v Speaker 2>and we hear this thing coming and it's coming down.

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<v Speaker 2>It says crash, the whole way down. So it was

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<v Speaker 2>a good sized tree. And We're looking at each other

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking, like, oh, what in the world is

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<v Speaker 2>going on right now? So I asked her. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have your gun on here? She say yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, stay by the car. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>walk out here and take a look real quick. So

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<v Speaker 2>I walk out to the end of the trail and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking further up the trail past the cemetery, and

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed something peeking out at me on the right

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<v Speaker 2>hand side of the trail, like kind of quickly dodging

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth, and I'm looking at it. I'm thinking like,

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<v Speaker 2>is that a bear, you know, because I've seen a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of black bears on my time, thinking like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a bear. And then it steps out. And when

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<v Speaker 2>it steps out, it's on two legs. I never see

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<v Speaker 2>the face. It was looking forward like it was definitely

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<v Speaker 2>on a mission to get to the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>the trail. Now, mind you, the other side of the

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<v Speaker 2>trail this thing is heading to is a side where

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<v Speaker 2>I heard the loud grunt. So I watched this thing

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<v Speaker 2>on two legs go across the trail. It has both

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<v Speaker 2>its arms like raised up, kind of looks like how

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<v Speaker 2>you see primates and like the zoo that aren't really

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<v Speaker 2>they're not really good at like the bipedalism walk, so

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<v Speaker 2>they use their arms to kind of balance themselves out.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's stepping one foot right in front of the other.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as I saw it, I'm like, that's like

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<v Speaker 2>a military walk. And I'm thinking like, is this a chimpanzee.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm staring at right now in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 2>woods in Florida, not that far fetched. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of wild things in Florida. So I'm thinking, okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>watching it in my mind. I'm like, there's no way

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing this right now. And it goes across, right

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<v Speaker 2>off into the trail, perfect little line that they made

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<v Speaker 2>going across. And she hears me, like out loud, say

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<v Speaker 2>what the heck was that? And I come over she

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<v Speaker 2>what was And I was like, I don't even know,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's like, well, what was that?

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<v Speaker 1>Ask? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's give me men, I think. And so we're we

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<v Speaker 2>go inside the cemetery. She's going around doing everything, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting on a bench and I'm just scanning everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a hawk now and I didn't know where

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<v Speaker 2>she was here bang bang bang in that same rhythm,

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<v Speaker 2>that perfect stretch out. There was no like rush in between.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the perfect cadence every time. And we heard

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<v Speaker 2>it that Knox and she looks right at me and goes,

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<v Speaker 2>are those of those three knocks when those shows you

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<v Speaker 2>were watching? And I was like, sure, sounds like huh,

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<v Speaker 2>And we're both kind of like, what in the world, Bud?

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<v Speaker 2>It was? It was really bizarre, and so I started

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<v Speaker 2>I fell down the rabbit hole after that, looking into

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<v Speaker 2>different groups and looking up you know, you know, Sasquatch

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<v Speaker 2>and Florida like reports and stuff, and I started getting

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<v Speaker 2>the courage. I was like, you know what, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go out to night. I'm gonna go out there and

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<v Speaker 2>go see it. And I'm like, there's gotta be something

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<v Speaker 2>to this, right And I'm thinking, Okay, what's the worst

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<v Speaker 2>gonna happen? Well, that was a dumb idea. So I

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<v Speaker 2>started gifting because I've heard gifting and a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>different podcasts and shows and stuff like that, and I'm thinking, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll I'll just take a swing at it. What's the

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<v Speaker 2>worst gonna happen? And I had designated four trees that

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<v Speaker 2>I designated my apple trees that I would go get

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<v Speaker 2>like these organic apples from and I would just go

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<v Speaker 2>up there and I would just stake them up, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm so for reference. I'm six to one, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm putting these things up as high as I can

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<v Speaker 2>reach into these trees. And I check the apple trees regularly. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then one night we go out there, it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of late. We just kind of rushed out real quick

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<v Speaker 2>that just wanted to go check them real quick, and

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<v Speaker 2>she's not. My girlfriend's not feeling too good, so she

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<v Speaker 2>stays in the car. She comes to sit in the car.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna read my book and you go do your thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, all right, whatever, And I walked this trail

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<v Speaker 2>tons of time now and nothing weird has ever happened

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<v Speaker 2>yet since that one time. So I walk the trail,

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<v Speaker 2>check tree one, Tree two. Nothing. Tree three is the

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<v Speaker 2>only one that's really off the trail. Tree one and two.

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<v Speaker 2>I have the apples kind of around the tree, so

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<v Speaker 2>like you really need to be looking for them, so

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<v Speaker 2>like a good hunter woud obviously spot them, or someone

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<v Speaker 2>who's very observant with spot them, but I try to

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<v Speaker 2>make him as obviously not obvious at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>So Tree three, you have to walk off the trail

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<v Speaker 2>only about fifteen steps, and there's this big clearing there

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm coming up tons of owls going off right now,

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<v Speaker 2>which what I already thought was kind of weird because

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<v Speaker 2>no one, I don't hear that many owls out there,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're going off everywhere. It is who who is

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth? I'm thinking, like, man, this is getting

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<v Speaker 2>some pretty eeriness. And I hear a bunch of rustling

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<v Speaker 2>off to my side, and I know it's an armadilla

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<v Speaker 2>because I've been seeing them off and on, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to like look over and see if it's an

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<v Speaker 2>armadillan as my headlamp. I got a really high powered headlamp.

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<v Speaker 2>As I'm swaying around, I catch eye shine off my

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<v Speaker 2>right and I immediately snap back to it to look

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<v Speaker 2>right at it. And I'm watching this eye shine. I

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<v Speaker 2>know it knows that I see it now, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>down low, so I'm thinking like, oh, it's a deer.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it starts swaying back and forth and like

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<v Speaker 2>really slow, kind of like a little rhythic, and I'm watching.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking like, oh crap. And then I watched it

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<v Speaker 2>go from about four feet tall to over my head.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's just outside the reach of the light. The

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<v Speaker 2>light's reflecting off the eyes, but I can't see it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's kind of like a little silhouette there. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>see the face, the body or nothing, but I can

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<v Speaker 2>tell there's something standing there entirely based off the eye shine.

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<v Speaker 2>And this eye shine is easily a foot than I am,

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<v Speaker 2>and as soon as it stood up all the way,

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<v Speaker 2>and I followed it the whole time going up. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking like, oh my god, this is too close now

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, I have a firearm on me at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, so I drew immediately because it was if

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<v Speaker 2>it wanted to get me. It was within a few

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<v Speaker 2>steps for something like that to be at me. I

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<v Speaker 2>drew and I ain't right at it, and I said

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<v Speaker 2>out loud, I go get the way from me. I

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<v Speaker 2>watched the eye shine just kind of stare at me,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it started like slowly like shrinking back down.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't see it at the time, but where it

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<v Speaker 2>was standing at it would like slope down, which would

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<v Speaker 2>explain why the ice sign was shrinking. So maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't even squatted down. Maybe it was just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>coming up right there, and I just happened to see

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<v Speaker 2>it as it was coming up the hill. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I went back the next day to kind of measure

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<v Speaker 2>where I saw the eyeshine, and that's how I came

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<v Speaker 2>up with between the seven and seven eight feet more

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<v Speaker 2>range because there's some smaller trees there and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't a raccoon. The eyes were huge. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a black bear because I don't think those trees were

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere capable of holding a black bear up. I tried

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<v Speaker 2>hanging on it myself, and I'm a pretty heavy guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I bend them like a toothpick, almost coming over.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's really really fueled my interest into learning more,

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<v Speaker 2>which then led me into meeting my now friend Frank,

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<v Speaker 2>who is actually one of our team members as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and me and him started talking more and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and he helped me out with some gear for thermals

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<v Speaker 2>and night vision, and I would just regularly go out there.

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<v Speaker 2>And now I don't really walk the trails no more.

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<v Speaker 2>I've adapted the city and listen mentality, and every now

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<v Speaker 2>and then I go out there. It's been dead silent

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<v Speaker 2>in that area for a while now, so I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 2>they must move around. So we started looking into some

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<v Speaker 2>other areas around there so that so I always tried

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<v Speaker 2>to coincide at whatever we're doing. If I'm doing something

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<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot related, I want her to be able to do

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<v Speaker 2>something she enjoys. So luckily for us, that whole area

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<v Speaker 2>these cemeteries are the remnants of like old ghost towns

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much, and there's three of them in that area

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<v Speaker 2>that I know off the top of my head, actually four,

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<v Speaker 2>And we go to the next one, which is only

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<v Speaker 2>a stone's throwaway, and I walk this whole section one

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<v Speaker 2>day by myself while she's cleaning of the side of

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<v Speaker 2>the cemetery and I walk it. I've run into some people.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to them and stuff with that, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of casually mentioned, like you see anything weird,

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<v Speaker 2>Like no, you knowing a lot of trail cams around,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of deer, you know, deer blinds to tree stands,

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<v Speaker 2>something like, eh, I don't really think there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>anything here. There's a lot of hunter activity. So that night,

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<v Speaker 2>me and were talking and we're still in the area.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know what, let's just go walk it.

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<v Speaker 2>we parked the cemetery with Norm. We park at and

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<v Speaker 2>we were walking down this trail and we get down

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<v Speaker 2>this trail, Ah Man, not even like two three minutes

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<v Speaker 2>into this walk, and we hear this high pitched scream.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounded feminine. And the only reason why I sounded

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds feminine to me now is because our team

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<v Speaker 2>yell and it's it's almost similar. It's not quite there,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's kind of the first time she did it,

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<v Speaker 2>I looked right over at Frank and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>that was creepy. He's like, that was very similar.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It really freaked us out. So we hear this high

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<v Speaker 2>pitched scream, and my poor girlfriend was scared. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 2>she was so terrified. She's right, She's like, I'm I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>what in the world. And she's like we need to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, calm down, relax. I was like, stand behind me,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're we're both a little on edge and so

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<v Speaker 2>of that. And then you could tell when it yelled

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<v Speaker 2>it was going away from us, because you could hear

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<v Speaker 2>like going away. But when it was going away, it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't make a lot of noise, you know. So we

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<v Speaker 2>walked the trail. It's a creepy trail at night. It's

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<v Speaker 2>around this whole pond that's over in the area there,

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<v Speaker 2>and on the way back, kind of around that same area,

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<v Speaker 2>we hear something. It definitely sounded like it jumped out

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<v Speaker 2>of a tree because it was just like nothing. And

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<v Speaker 2>then crunch crunched like very loud, and then something running

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<v Speaker 2>off and the only way I can I can mimic

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<v Speaker 2>the sound running off of the if it was me

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<v Speaker 2>just running through the woods. Everything contruction leaves, and it

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<v Speaker 2>scared her. So she's very leary by going out at

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<v Speaker 2>night now with me. So I've had to adapt this

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<v Speaker 2>solo rambo mentality I got now where I tend to

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<v Speaker 2>go out a lot by myself. I feel like they're

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<v Speaker 2>more inclined to get closer when you're by yourself. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't like how close the one with the eyeshine was.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to see one from you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>couple more yards away. That was just way too close stage.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole stage area out there like that. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>weird because there's a ton of reports in that area

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<v Speaker 2>that I keep trying to follow up on, and luckily,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we've pretty much found them all that we're

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<v Speaker 2>aware of. At the moment, I'm trying to like go

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<v Speaker 2>through a bunch of database and trying to see if

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<v Speaker 2>the BRFO has anything, if anyone else has anything. In

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<v Speaker 2>these other forms, these are the groups on Facebook and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. I'm actively talking to people as much

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<v Speaker 2>as I can now. I'm trying to build a database

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<v Speaker 2>with our team. We how we all kind of came

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<v Speaker 2>together is funny because I met Mike just randomly, like

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking with Frank, and I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what about Mike. He seems like he's local. I found

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<v Speaker 2>out he lived kind of close by and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was an active guy out there, always going

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<v Speaker 2>out and stuff. So I was like, what the heck,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll shoo him a message because poor Frank lives really

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<v Speaker 2>far away. So talk with Mike and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when me and Frank finally had a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to meet up, Mike came out and we're all talking,

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<v Speaker 2>shooting the breeze for a while, and then Mike's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I got this area I want to show you guys

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side of the road that he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of drove down and checked out. And I haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>over that way yet. I've been focusing mainly on the areas.

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<v Speaker 2>Anywheys I find water on the map is where I

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<v Speaker 2>try to spend a good amount of time there, probably

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks really work it and see if

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<v Speaker 2>I find anything. And he found this one spot and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, all right, cool, let's go check out.

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<v Speaker 2>So waal three was we glowed up and we go

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<v Speaker 2>over there and he's got us really far back in

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<v Speaker 2>the woods out there on foot and we hear that

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<v Speaker 2>same exact feminine scream again. And some people are going

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<v Speaker 2>to say it's a vixen fox. It's not a vixen fox.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to look that up. We already compare the

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<v Speaker 2>audio of the two and the irony is I don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember the documentary of what it was that has Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>Meldrum and oh god, I can't think the other research

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<v Speaker 2>is on there. They have the same exact audio because

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<v Speaker 2>when we heard it, when we got back to camp,

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<v Speaker 2>me and Frank were talking it is me and Frank

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<v Speaker 2>actually stayed out there for a couple of nights, like

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<v Speaker 2>in that general area, and we're talking about it. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I've heard that audio, and then he found

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<v Speaker 2>it and as soon as he played it, I just

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<v Speaker 2>my head snapped right to him and I looked up

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<v Speaker 2>like a candle. I was like, that's it, and he's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>this is crazy. This was recorded back in the late nineties,

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<v Speaker 2>early the early nineties, late eighties, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, man, and we tried comparing like vixen

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<v Speaker 2>frock sounds to an other known It's not a screech owl.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard squeech owls plenty of times. I've even heard

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<v Speaker 2>occasionally bard owls will sound like monkeys in the morning

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<v Speaker 2>when they're all chittering and chattering with each other. My

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<v Speaker 2>poor buddy. We were out camping in that general area

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<v Speaker 2>again recently, and I was dead asleep. I sleep like

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<v Speaker 2>a baby on the woods. It does not bother me.

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<v Speaker 2>He's up, he goes to use the bathroom real quick,

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<v Speaker 2>and he hears that going off in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the woods, and he was freaked out and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I swear it was monkey. So I checked my audio

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<v Speaker 2>and of course the only thing you really hear in

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<v Speaker 2>theadda really well is you know, this grizzly bear and

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<v Speaker 2>his tent sleeping snoring away, and they kind of faintly

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<v Speaker 2>hear it. But it's there's a lot of noises people

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<v Speaker 2>really misinterpret out there. I think they hear things that

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<v Speaker 2>they don't know and they just jump to conclusion instead

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<v Speaker 2>of like doing the research and stuf of that. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I like backtracking to like my sighting of I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna call it a juvenile because the more time I

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<v Speaker 2>spend on it and think about it, and keep going

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<v Speaker 2>back to that area and looking around and just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to find more, it's got to be a juvenile. That

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<v Speaker 2>was the only way to think about it. Between what

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<v Speaker 2>grunted at me, which is what I think, what I

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<v Speaker 2>caught the eyeshine of, and then that it blows me

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<v Speaker 2>away to think that this is even a possibility now.

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<v Speaker 2>So then fast forward, I'd say maybe about two months

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<v Speaker 2>after me and Frank go out. Yeah, I would say

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<v Speaker 2>about two months after that, me and my younger brother

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<v Speaker 2>are out because he's interested in all so that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as I go out and stuff like that, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, well you can come with me. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll come with you. So we're out one night, we're

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<v Speaker 2>just walking around, so that I told him find out.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, nine times at a time when I

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<v Speaker 2>go out, nothing happens. I was like, honestly, nothing's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen almost all the time. It's the anomalies that

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<v Speaker 2>happened that one title millipercentage that happens. We're out walking

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<v Speaker 2>around so that we're just talking. I'm just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>showing them the trail. It's it's kind of dark now

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff with that. He's having fun, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell he's a little freaked out because every

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<v Speaker 2>noise he hears, he's kind of looking around. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's an armadillo, you know it. Now, that's a bird

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<v Speaker 2>over there. Don't worry about it. It's this and that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's dear. And we find these ribbons. They're like tattered

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<v Speaker 2>up and so whatever, but they're like marking a trail.

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<v Speaker 2>So I asked him, I was like, you want to

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<v Speaker 2>go off trail a little bit. He's like sure, So

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<v Speaker 2>we walk off trail and we get back there pretty far.

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<v Speaker 2>We fall all the ribbons on the back. I'm honestly

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<v Speaker 2>expecting to find like a camp or something, because there

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<v Speaker 2>are poachers who will poach the deer out in that

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<v Speaker 2>area out of season. I've seen the bodies completely cut up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know it's a hunter because they're completely filad open.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's unfortunately it happens. What happens, and we get

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<v Speaker 2>back there, no camp, no nothing. So I carry on

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<v Speaker 2>me a hickory hatchet handle. That's my knocker, my tree knocker.

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<v Speaker 2>I use gives off a nice, really good percussion when

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<v Speaker 2>it hits things. So I go one, two, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I wait and listen, and I have audio rolling, and

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<v Speaker 2>just as we're getting in the walk away, we hear

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<v Speaker 2>loud as can be, almost sounds like a gunshot off

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<v Speaker 2>on my audio. And I look back at my brother

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes, what And I was like, I told

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<v Speaker 2>you man. He's like, nah, there's somebody out here, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't know, Bud. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty ballsy to be out in the woods, especially

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida of old states, to be acting wild like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, that's a good way of getting yourself

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<v Speaker 2>hurt in more than one way. So we hear the bang.

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<v Speaker 2>We come walking back out to the trail. We're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of standing around. I'm just listening, and every time I

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<v Speaker 2>have something happen, I always go lights off like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I want no lights. I want everything just be quiet

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<v Speaker 2>because I want my night vision to come in. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to go see and we're scanning around nothing. So

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<v Speaker 2>we walked the rest of the trail and on the

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<v Speaker 2>way back we're just discussing stuff like that. I'm explaining

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<v Speaker 2>things to him and he goes, he's like Mike, Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>He grabs my the shirt. He's like stop and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like what. He's like, there's ice shine right there and

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<v Speaker 2>I can't see it. I'm like looking around because I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I saw kind of like a blackish furish color,

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<v Speaker 2>but it I couldn't make it out. In times, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't sit there and say that's what I saw. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was something moved and I'm looking around, looking around,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see nothing of that. I'm like, he's still

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<v Speaker 2>there's now and we're looking around. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I want to go back a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>He's okay, and I was like okay, and he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, big brother, making sure my younger brother's all right.

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<v Speaker 2>We walked back there, and in the spot where he

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<v Speaker 2>saw the eye shine at it was almost like if

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<v Speaker 2>something would have put its arm down on the ground

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<v Speaker 2>and then swiped it away, like trying to clear off

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<v Speaker 2>an area. And we're looking around nothing. I don't see

413
00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:52.319
<v Speaker 2>no hair, no footprints, naa. So I'm thinking, like, man,

414
00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:54.880
<v Speaker 2>that's that's weird. And my brother at this point he's like,

415
00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:58.839
<v Speaker 2>he's like that's impossible, and I'm like it's it's crazy,

416
00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:02.200
<v Speaker 2>and he goes, there's no way that that eyeshine I

417
00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:05.440
<v Speaker 2>saw got away without making a single sound. He's like,

418
00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:07.960
<v Speaker 2>we didn't hear nothing run away from us this whole time.

419
00:23:09.519 --> 00:23:14.839
<v Speaker 2>So we come back out of the trail. We're walking

420
00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:18.440
<v Speaker 2>back out and I'm looking around and I have my

421
00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:21.440
<v Speaker 2>letter light on and I'm looking down, and just as

422
00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:23.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm about the step, I stopped because I'm looking down

423
00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:30.039
<v Speaker 2>at the ground and there's this huge impression. It's it's massive,

424
00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:32.799
<v Speaker 2>and it could be paradolia. I'm not gonna sit there

425
00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:35.559
<v Speaker 2>and say that it's not a possibility, but it's it's

426
00:23:35.640 --> 00:23:39.359
<v Speaker 2>almost too close. And other people I have showed the

427
00:23:39.400 --> 00:23:42.680
<v Speaker 2>pictures to are very like that could be that. I'm like,

428
00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:45.359
<v Speaker 2>I know, and that's why I'm okay with you scrutinizing it,

429
00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:47.720
<v Speaker 2>because I want to scrutinize that. I want some to

430
00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:49.559
<v Speaker 2>prove me wrong, prove me that I'm just being parentally.

431
00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:53.759
<v Speaker 2>And if we're both staring at him, my brother grasped

432
00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:56.319
<v Speaker 2>me and he goes, do you see the size of

433
00:23:56.359 --> 00:24:01.559
<v Speaker 2>that me? He's losing it at this point. And I

434
00:24:01.599 --> 00:24:05.200
<v Speaker 2>wear a size thirteen. I wear thirteen why I have

435
00:24:05.240 --> 00:24:07.880
<v Speaker 2>a wide foot? He wears a size fourteen, but he

436
00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:10.720
<v Speaker 2>has a narrow foot a little bit longer, and he's

437
00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:12.440
<v Speaker 2>got his foot up that I got mine up to it,

438
00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:15.519
<v Speaker 2>and we're taking pictures and we're just like, godly this

439
00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:19.000
<v Speaker 2>my foot can sit inside this one like a baby.

440
00:24:19.079 --> 00:24:23.599
<v Speaker 2>It's huge. It's a good size foot. And of course,

441
00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:26.000
<v Speaker 2>being the novice I was at the time, no faster,

442
00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:28.559
<v Speaker 2>no nothing. I have everything on me now when I

443
00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:30.720
<v Speaker 2>go out, like I have a huge kit that I

444
00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:34.440
<v Speaker 2>carry on my back from first day to camping survival,

445
00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:37.400
<v Speaker 2>something happens the whole nine yards now because I have

446
00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:39.319
<v Speaker 2>all that, nothing will ever happen. I'll never find the

447
00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:43.000
<v Speaker 2>evidence ever again. And watch. But that was a fun

448
00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:45.720
<v Speaker 2>night and he's been hooked ever since. And every time

449
00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:47.240
<v Speaker 2>we get a chance, we try to go out together

450
00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:51.720
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. But we've really spent a lot

451
00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:54.680
<v Speaker 2>of time in that area, really pushing it and I'm

452
00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:58.160
<v Speaker 2>trying to keep it as ethnic as possible and stuff

453
00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:00.680
<v Speaker 2>like that. I've made a video, so I tried doing

454
00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:02.039
<v Speaker 2>the YouTube thing a little bit here and there, so

455
00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:04.200
<v Speaker 2>that part of me it feels awkward when I'm doing it.

456
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:07.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe I'm just I mean, I should

457
00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:10.519
<v Speaker 2>just feelm me just talking in those areas more about it,

458
00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:12.519
<v Speaker 2>So I kind of like describing things and like really

459
00:25:12.519 --> 00:25:14.359
<v Speaker 2>picking the brain of the audience and see what other

460
00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:20.559
<v Speaker 2>people think. But it's I don't want to blow the

461
00:25:20.599 --> 00:25:22.200
<v Speaker 2>spot up, so I try to keep it on the

462
00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:25.960
<v Speaker 2>wraps because it is a public area. They people come

463
00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:28.079
<v Speaker 2>and go all the time. I see hunters all the time,

464
00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:32.640
<v Speaker 2>hikers all the time, horsebike riders all the time. That

465
00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:39.240
<v Speaker 2>area is it's very unique because it has a high

466
00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:42.359
<v Speaker 2>density of reports, and I think it has to high

467
00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:46.839
<v Speaker 2>denser reports because it's kind of like cradled around a

468
00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:53.759
<v Speaker 2>bunch of people, Like there's clusters of farmhouses all around it,

469
00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:57.920
<v Speaker 2>and then you have very large, dense suburban areas not

470
00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:01.519
<v Speaker 2>very far from there. That whole forest has just been

471
00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:06.079
<v Speaker 2>pushed back so far that I'm not surprised that people

472
00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:10.000
<v Speaker 2>are having more reports than sightings now of whether it

473
00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:14.640
<v Speaker 2>be sasquatch or dog man or whatever people are seeing now.

474
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I think people are seeing it because these these areas

475
00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:21.119
<v Speaker 2>that these things are in are being so decimated and

476
00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:24.319
<v Speaker 2>pushed back that it's just an amount of time before

477
00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:29.319
<v Speaker 2>someone has another sighting. So it's a lot of fun.

478
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:34.960
<v Speaker 2>It gets scary. I try to stay as stoic as

479
00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:39.400
<v Speaker 2>I can and just be brave. But when you're face

480
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:44.079
<v Speaker 2>to face with something that's clearly very large compared to you,

481
00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:51.240
<v Speaker 2>it's it's very nerve wracking. And anyone who's had encounters

482
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:53.759
<v Speaker 2>like that, I guarantee they know exactly what I'm talking about.

483
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:56.279
<v Speaker 2>You get that. It's that chill, that little tingle in

484
00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:59.039
<v Speaker 2>the back of your neck, and you're just like, oh no,

485
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.160
<v Speaker 2>because you don't know what can happen. Like I'm not

486
00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:06.799
<v Speaker 2>carrying some high caliber, you know, rifle with me and

487
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:14.640
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. I'm in Florida. It's standard carry, nothing crazy. Honestly,

488
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:17.599
<v Speaker 2>I should probably carry something higher than a nine, but

489
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:21.640
<v Speaker 2>it's just standardized defense that I'm caring. I'm more worried

490
00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:25.720
<v Speaker 2>about a wild person than I am a sasquatcher, because

491
00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:29.079
<v Speaker 2>even though there are reports of attacks, how often does

492
00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:32.960
<v Speaker 2>it actually happen? You know, nowadays you feel like if

493
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:38.119
<v Speaker 2>it happens, we would know about it more. But the

494
00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:40.680
<v Speaker 2>idea of that happening to me is very slim. And

495
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:42.799
<v Speaker 2>I think that's why I'm so comfortable when we go

496
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:44.680
<v Speaker 2>out camping and so that because I'm very I just

497
00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:47.559
<v Speaker 2>listen all the time, so even if I'm dead asleep

498
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:48.960
<v Speaker 2>and I hear like a snap or something like that,

499
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:53.519
<v Speaker 2>I wake up instant. I just listen. But one thing

500
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I will backtrack to that was very interesting to say.

501
00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:58.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't I'm not going to classify and for sound

502
00:27:58.759 --> 00:28:00.960
<v Speaker 2>because I don't know enough about in for sound to

503
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.599
<v Speaker 2>really discuss it. I'm just going to discuss a weird

504
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 2>occurrence that happened when me and Frank went camping the

505
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.039
<v Speaker 2>first time out there. We were what was it was

506
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:13.759
<v Speaker 2>the day before we were wrapping up, so I had

507
00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:16.480
<v Speaker 2>it been like a Saturday night we were. We just

508
00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:18.759
<v Speaker 2>went out, spent some time, and so with that hung

509
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:21.400
<v Speaker 2>out with some of the people, sat out on an area.

510
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Nothing happened. We're back at camp and we're sitting there

511
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:30.440
<v Speaker 2>and out of nowhere, my left ear is ring, like

512
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:34.559
<v Speaker 2>really loud. And I didn't say anything, but Frank look

513
00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:36.319
<v Speaker 2>at me. He goes, man, my right ear is ringing

514
00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:38.759
<v Speaker 2>really loud, which would be the ear that same side

515
00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:41.680
<v Speaker 2>he was facing me, and I go, that's weird because

516
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:43.319
<v Speaker 2>my left ear is ring and we both look off

517
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:46.000
<v Speaker 2>in a direction. Nothing. We see nothing of it, right,

518
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:48.880
<v Speaker 2>So we go to bed and I go to bed

519
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.839
<v Speaker 2>and the next morning, I get up, I'm going around,

520
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:54.200
<v Speaker 2>go to to the bathroom and come back and Frank

521
00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:57.440
<v Speaker 2>is sitting outside his tent. I said, okay, he said, buddy,

522
00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:00.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel good at all. It's poor guy, Like,

523
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.079
<v Speaker 2>we didn't know if he had carbon anox side poisoning

524
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>because it was cold this time of year, and even

525
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:06.880
<v Speaker 2>though yes, it does get cold in Florida, we had

526
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:11.160
<v Speaker 2>a very freak winner recently. It was very cold. Even

527
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:14.279
<v Speaker 2>I had a heater, but my tent is very open

528
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:16.720
<v Speaker 2>air at the top to the like air circulating stuff,

529
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:20.880
<v Speaker 2>and he has a hot tent, so his designed to

530
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:22.960
<v Speaker 2>hold in heat, but it's also designed to circulate the

531
00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:25.880
<v Speaker 2>air and not get stale in their form. So we're

532
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:28.200
<v Speaker 2>thinking maybe carbon anoxide here, you know, because of the

533
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:29.960
<v Speaker 2>heater he had in there. And I were like, he's like, man,

534
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. So we actually had him go to

535
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:37.839
<v Speaker 2>the hospital and he got transferred by the MS, and

536
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:42.319
<v Speaker 2>after he got out, they have no idea what happened

537
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:46.319
<v Speaker 2>to him. It's not carbon anoxide poisoning nothing. That poor

538
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:51.680
<v Speaker 2>dude was tore up. Whatever happened to him, and it

539
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:54.839
<v Speaker 2>hasn't happened since, so we don't know. We both scratched

540
00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:57.519
<v Speaker 2>our heads to that. I don't know if he's looked

541
00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:00.200
<v Speaker 2>into the infrasound more. I looked into a little little

542
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:03.759
<v Speaker 2>bit of it, and it seems like people have different

543
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:08.640
<v Speaker 2>reactions to it. A great example the everybody knows is

544
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:13.319
<v Speaker 2>RPG who's also a member of Squash NFL. He had

545
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:15.599
<v Speaker 2>that experience out there where it just floored him and

546
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:17.640
<v Speaker 2>he had to step away from the show. The whole

547
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:20.440
<v Speaker 2>nine yards like they really tore them up. There's something

548
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:23.799
<v Speaker 2>that goes on in that sound frequency that's really messing

549
00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:29.319
<v Speaker 2>humans up where it gets as very sick from you know, vertigo,

550
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:34.519
<v Speaker 2>nausea the whole nine yards. So I had a really

551
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:38.440
<v Speaker 2>bad headache that morning. There wasn't nothing crazy. I just

552
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:40.720
<v Speaker 2>took some tie and all I think I had in

553
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:45.480
<v Speaker 2>my bag and moved on. And Yeah, poor frank man,

554
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:47.799
<v Speaker 2>that tore him up. That was That was a scary

555
00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:52.440
<v Speaker 2>experience out there. So fast forward some more, Me and

556
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:54.279
<v Speaker 2>Frank get another chance to go out camping in that

557
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 2>general area for that, so we didn't camp at the

558
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:58.359
<v Speaker 2>same spot we did last time I've been. I walked

559
00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:01.480
<v Speaker 2>the trails a bunch during the day, and I've marked

560
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:03.839
<v Speaker 2>out different areas on my map and stuff where I

561
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:07.880
<v Speaker 2>find clearings at and stuff. So we go camping in

562
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.440
<v Speaker 2>some of these clearings whenever we get a chance. And

563
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:12.640
<v Speaker 2>we have one really good clearing it was there in

564
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:15.039
<v Speaker 2>old lake beds, so we're thinking like, oh, that'll be fantastic,

565
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:16.960
<v Speaker 2>let's go down there. So we go camping down there

566
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:20.519
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. And at the time, Mike's previous team that

567
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:24.480
<v Speaker 2>he was with, he they all were coming out that

568
00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:26.680
<v Speaker 2>general area too, so they were like, hey, can we

569
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:28.839
<v Speaker 2>come by and meet up with you? And I were like, Ash, sure,

570
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:31.200
<v Speaker 2>why not, No big deal, right, So we meet up,

571
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:33.359
<v Speaker 2>we talk, we walk around so that I meet Robert

572
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:37.200
<v Speaker 2>who's part of our team now as well. He's real

573
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:40.279
<v Speaker 2>big into the whole cave systems in Florida. That guy's

574
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:43.440
<v Speaker 2>got pluffer of knowledge of the cave systems. And he

575
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:45.440
<v Speaker 2>was telling me some different areas out there and stuff.

576
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:47.519
<v Speaker 2>So like my suspicions about where the water was and

577
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:50.359
<v Speaker 2>someone that was correct, and he when he validated that

578
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:51.720
<v Speaker 2>for me, I was like, oh good. So I was like,

579
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:53.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a completely more on when it comes to

580
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:57.920
<v Speaker 2>reading maps. I'm really a big map nerd. So we

581
00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:00.680
<v Speaker 2>spent some time out there and stuff, walked around, he

582
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:04.880
<v Speaker 2>showed some other areas. Nothing really happens as per usual

583
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:06.920
<v Speaker 2>nine times, like I said, nine times at ten you

584
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:10.000
<v Speaker 2>go out there, nothing's gonna happen. So don't ever get discouraged.

585
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:12.480
<v Speaker 2>If you go out to your favorite spot thirty times,

586
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.839
<v Speaker 2>nothing happens. Thirty one might be at the charm. So

587
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:20.839
<v Speaker 2>we're back at camp and we're talking, just me and

588
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:23.799
<v Speaker 2>Frank's talking, and we hear and I just to go

589
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:27.279
<v Speaker 2>hip like loud as can be on the other side

590
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.039
<v Speaker 2>of the dry lake bed. And we look at each

591
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:33.480
<v Speaker 2>other and I'm I I'm just I'm giggling and I

592
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:35.759
<v Speaker 2>was like, no way, buddy. He's like, it was that

593
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:37.359
<v Speaker 2>your first yip? And I was like that one hundred

594
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:39.359
<v Speaker 2>percent was I was like I've not heard one before.

595
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:43.799
<v Speaker 2>And he's like that's crazy, isn't it. And I was like, man, Frank,

596
00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:45.359
<v Speaker 2>I really owe him a lot of credit, a lot

597
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:47.920
<v Speaker 2>of panics. He really got me immersed into this more.

598
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:51.279
<v Speaker 2>And then Mike didn't like he didn't ease me into it.

599
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:53.119
<v Speaker 2>He like grabbed me by the collar and like dragged

600
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:54.519
<v Speaker 2>me out into it. I was like, come on, I'm like,

601
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:57.400
<v Speaker 2>all right, here we go and I've been in some

602
00:32:57.480 --> 00:32:59.039
<v Speaker 2>areas of Mike where I'm just like, you're gonna get

603
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:05.240
<v Speaker 2>this killed. But we've been in some areas. Man. There

604
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.759
<v Speaker 2>was this one spot that Mike took me out to.

605
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:10.119
<v Speaker 2>He's been looking at it on the map. He's like,

606
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:11.359
<v Speaker 2>you want to come out with me. I was like, yeah,

607
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:13.839
<v Speaker 2>I'll go with you. So we go out there and

608
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:18.200
<v Speaker 2>we get way back in there and stuff. I don't

609
00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:19.920
<v Speaker 2>want to spoil too much because Mike's got some pretty

610
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:25.160
<v Speaker 2>good stories of that area, but it was weird. It's

611
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:28.119
<v Speaker 2>something was definitely like it felt like we were being

612
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:32.480
<v Speaker 2>watched the whole time because this section, if I could

613
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:35.799
<v Speaker 2>literally just keep walking straight, like from where we got

614
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:39.559
<v Speaker 2>off the road, so it'd be east. If I could

615
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:45.519
<v Speaker 2>just keep heading or west, it would put you right

616
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:53.480
<v Speaker 2>out into the gulf. And it's so bizarre back there.

617
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:59.079
<v Speaker 2>It's like a marsh slash forest at the same time.

618
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.279
<v Speaker 2>You could step one way this way and it's marshy

619
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:04.319
<v Speaker 2>in one way. The other way, it's complete normal force.

620
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:08.360
<v Speaker 2>It was It's a very cool environment, insane amount of bugs.

621
00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:11.360
<v Speaker 2>But we're walking back there and like we hear like

622
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:13.199
<v Speaker 2>these snaps and these twigs and it's almost like a

623
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:18.679
<v Speaker 2>mouth pop, you know that they do. And we're looking

624
00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:21.400
<v Speaker 2>around now at the time, thanks to mister Frank, I

625
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:23.400
<v Speaker 2>have a much new toys now. I've got night vision

626
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:26.800
<v Speaker 2>and thermal, so I've got thermal up mine. I'm scanning

627
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:30.559
<v Speaker 2>around nothing. Mike's looking around nothing. So we started walking

628
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:32.679
<v Speaker 2>back and it, man, it sounded like something to pacing

629
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:35.519
<v Speaker 2>us on the way out. Couldn't see it, couldn't get

630
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:37.719
<v Speaker 2>in the thermal the whole time, but man, there was

631
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:41.719
<v Speaker 2>something there that was that was pretty eerie, and I'm like, ah,

632
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:43.400
<v Speaker 2>I need to get back to that spot. I we

633
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:50.719
<v Speaker 2>haven't been there in a while. But the the whole

634
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:56.880
<v Speaker 2>research aspect of this thing, and I use the term

635
00:34:56.920 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Speaker 2>research on myself lightly because again I'm more of a

636
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:04.760
<v Speaker 2>past guy. I deal with that on my day to

637
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.239
<v Speaker 2>day basis. So that's my knowledge of animals is based

638
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.079
<v Speaker 2>entirely off of like what nuisence animal for your house,

639
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:12.559
<v Speaker 2>and then like different kind of tree life, different kind

640
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:14.719
<v Speaker 2>of like grass, slide, all that stuff like that, any

641
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:18.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of hedges, you know, ornamentals, you name it. I

642
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:21.639
<v Speaker 2>deal with all that stuff. So I learn I like

643
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:26.320
<v Speaker 2>to learn about different like trees and stuff, so I

644
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:28.639
<v Speaker 2>try to apply that to what I do in my

645
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:29.960
<v Speaker 2>day to day when I'm out in the field with

646
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:33.000
<v Speaker 2>these guys. Know what, I know, I'm more of a

647
00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:36.440
<v Speaker 2>boots in the ground kind of guy. I think armchair

648
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:39.320
<v Speaker 2>quarterbacking sasquat for research is not the way to go.

649
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I think you need to be out there shredding through

650
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:48.800
<v Speaker 2>the mud and really looking. There's definitely something to this subject.

651
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:51.639
<v Speaker 2>People really don't like to acknowledge it for some reason.

652
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Don't really know why. It's fun. It's enjoyable because at

653
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:00.880
<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, if nothing happens, I'm still

654
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:03.039
<v Speaker 2>in the woods having a good time. I'm hanging out

655
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:05.719
<v Speaker 2>with people I enjoy hanging out with, taking the mother

656
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:12.719
<v Speaker 2>nature and enjoying my day. The idea of there being

657
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:20.559
<v Speaker 2>a eight foot plus tall Harry hominid walking around the forest,

658
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:24.760
<v Speaker 2>it's it's scary and insanely intriguing at the same time,

659
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:28.639
<v Speaker 2>because it's like, what are you? What are we? Are

660
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:30.880
<v Speaker 2>we you? Or are we the same thing or you

661
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:33.599
<v Speaker 2>entirely something different? Like what exactly are you? And I'm

662
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:37.400
<v Speaker 2>just a curious person, so like I would love to

663
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:45.119
<v Speaker 2>see whatever the eye shine was in broad daylight, because

664
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:48.760
<v Speaker 2>it was so big like every time I picture that

665
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:51.400
<v Speaker 2>eye shine in my mind and like just how close

666
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:54.639
<v Speaker 2>it was. The part of me is like, man, I

667
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:57.800
<v Speaker 2>really that could have went south real fast. I'd be

668
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:01.159
<v Speaker 2>part of the next missing for one book or something. Then, uh,

669
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:05.639
<v Speaker 2>that was I would love to see that. I have

670
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:09.599
<v Speaker 2>a spot out there I love sitting on because I

671
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:11.119
<v Speaker 2>just I bring a little fold up chair. I mean

672
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:12.519
<v Speaker 2>I just pop it out and I just sit there

673
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:14.719
<v Speaker 2>and I'll put a podcast on or something like that,

674
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:16.559
<v Speaker 2>or just listen, or maybe someone will call me out

675
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:19.360
<v Speaker 2>have an earbuddy, and I just relax and just look

676
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:21.480
<v Speaker 2>around and listen. Hikers will come by all wave, but

677
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:23.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm with that. Sometimes they come and talk to me

678
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:28.719
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. The reports I get from those guys are great.

679
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:31.280
<v Speaker 2>There's actually one gentleman who came into the mind of

680
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:34.199
<v Speaker 2>Frank's camp one time, just randomly, which was why we

681
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:35.920
<v Speaker 2>don't camp at that one spot nowhere. There's a lot

682
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:38.360
<v Speaker 2>of people for some reason who just think it's okay

683
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:41.079
<v Speaker 2>to walk into someone's camp and it's like, meanwhile, I've

684
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:42.840
<v Speaker 2>got a gun like tapped out of my shirt, and

685
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:45.159
<v Speaker 2>he's got one right there. We're just like, yeah, now

686
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:50.679
<v Speaker 2>go on. And he was telling us about the caves

687
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:52.400
<v Speaker 2>out in this one area. So that and how he

688
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:54.920
<v Speaker 2>threw a rope down the one he was going to

689
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:56.679
<v Speaker 2>go down to the one and something I yelled at him.

690
00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:58.400
<v Speaker 2>So naturally we're like, oh, I got to go check

691
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:02.440
<v Speaker 2>that out now. And the caves out in this area

692
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:06.559
<v Speaker 2>are fenced off. The forest hasn't fenced off. For one

693
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:10.000
<v Speaker 2>they are dangerous. I don't caring what says, you can

694
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:11.480
<v Speaker 2>get hurt doing this, So if you don't know what

695
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:14.360
<v Speaker 2>you're doing, don't go into these caves. Like I don't

696
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:16.519
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm doing, so I don't put my giant

697
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:18.639
<v Speaker 2>self in these caves because they're going to have to

698
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:24.360
<v Speaker 2>bring a crane to pull me out. So these areas

699
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:28.360
<v Speaker 2>are fenced off as of that, and this whole area

700
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:32.239
<v Speaker 2>when you sit out there, it doesn't look like Florida

701
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:35.960
<v Speaker 2>because it's on like an old lime rock quarry from

702
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:37.519
<v Speaker 2>way back in the day. I think it's like in

703
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:39.480
<v Speaker 2>the sixties or something like that. They said maybe the

704
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:45.079
<v Speaker 2>late seventies, and that whole area. Any of the old

705
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:47.880
<v Speaker 2>timers I talk in that area, they all have stories

706
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:51.639
<v Speaker 2>of the forest people skunk abe the whole nine yards.

707
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:55.559
<v Speaker 2>So it's really fun when they see that I'm interested

708
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:57.679
<v Speaker 2>in then I'm not like scoffing at him and poo

709
00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:00.000
<v Speaker 2>pooing what they're doing. That they kind of open up

710
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:02.559
<v Speaker 2>start talking more about it and stuff, and that's really

711
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:05.039
<v Speaker 2>helped us out a lot as a group to really

712
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:09.480
<v Speaker 2>push our research further into the field of where we

713
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:11.639
<v Speaker 2>want to go. It's with that, it's gotten to the

714
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:13.760
<v Speaker 2>point now where they know I focus on one area

715
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:15.599
<v Speaker 2>because I really like going there and stuff with that,

716
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:17.800
<v Speaker 2>and then the other ones will focus on different areas

717
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:19.360
<v Speaker 2>and we just kind of all share our stories with

718
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:21.280
<v Speaker 2>each other, like, oh, I tried this, this is we

719
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:25.039
<v Speaker 2>just see what works. The apple tree is, for example,

720
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:27.960
<v Speaker 2>I put out nothing ever takes them, which I think

721
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:32.880
<v Speaker 2>is kind of weird. Nothing touches them, and every now

722
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:36.719
<v Speaker 2>and then I'll find one knocked off, laying on the ground,

723
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.480
<v Speaker 2>no bike marks, no nothing on it, and I'm like,

724
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:44.320
<v Speaker 2>that's so bizarre to me. It's the lack of wildlife

725
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:46.559
<v Speaker 2>in some of these areas I go to that I

726
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:49.639
<v Speaker 2>find to be very interesting because it's like there should

727
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:54.760
<v Speaker 2>be squirrels and birds and everything all the time, and

728
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:58.360
<v Speaker 2>a lot of times there's not. But nothing ever happens.

729
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:03.360
<v Speaker 2>You would expect you to sa see a knock or

730
00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:07.039
<v Speaker 2>even eye more eyeshine or something else. Nothing happens. But

731
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:11.480
<v Speaker 2>there it's just dead quiet. And I've gotten so used

732
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:12.880
<v Speaker 2>to that to where I just kind of ignore it

733
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:14.679
<v Speaker 2>now and act like I'm just oblivious to it in

734
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:16.920
<v Speaker 2>the hopes that like listening to some sort of response,

735
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:20.440
<v Speaker 2>and it every now and then I'll get like a

736
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:23.920
<v Speaker 2>little you know, pop or something, but nothing crazy. It's

737
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:27.519
<v Speaker 2>it's a very interesting area. I really enjoyed researching it.

738
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:33.639
<v Speaker 2>People really should focus on their spots more. I feel like,

739
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:36.920
<v Speaker 2>I really think you can really miss things if you

740
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.880
<v Speaker 2>keep spreading out too much. Like it's fun to go

741
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:42.119
<v Speaker 2>to a new area and stuff like that, but if

742
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:44.079
<v Speaker 2>you have somewhere's close to you that you can really

743
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:46.960
<v Speaker 2>work with them, like your time frame and stuff, push it,

744
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:50.239
<v Speaker 2>hammer it. Go out there, do the research, spend the

745
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:52.960
<v Speaker 2>time out there, hang out, especially if there's hiking trails

746
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:55.519
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. Just hike the trails, Like don't

747
00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:59.079
<v Speaker 2>don't don't go out there looking for you know, you're

748
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:00.519
<v Speaker 2>going out I'm gonna look for. Make what you're not

749
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:03.079
<v Speaker 2>gonna you're not gonna find like that, go out there

750
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:06.679
<v Speaker 2>and try to meet the people who frequent those areas too,

751
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:10.679
<v Speaker 2>and see if you can, you know, collaborate some stories

752
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:12.559
<v Speaker 2>that they have, like oh, why I was over on

753
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:16.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, so and so rich and something kept making

754
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:18.239
<v Speaker 2>these weird knocks over there and stuff like that. And

755
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:19.800
<v Speaker 2>then that's where I would go hang out in that

756
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.400
<v Speaker 2>general area, in my same area, just a little further,

757
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:26.400
<v Speaker 2>like a yard or two that way, and just with

758
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:30.039
<v Speaker 2>us hammering that spot. I've had the eye Shine experience there.

759
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Mike has had the eye Shine experience there. Mike saw

760
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:35.079
<v Speaker 2>something there at one time run off on him and

761
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:41.559
<v Speaker 2>his kids. It's it's bizarre. It's got to the point

762
00:41:41.559 --> 00:41:44.679
<v Speaker 2>where even a lady who lives adjacent to the area

763
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:46.639
<v Speaker 2>has reached out to Mike and was telling him like, hey,

764
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:48.440
<v Speaker 2>I used to ride horses in this area all the time,

765
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:50.679
<v Speaker 2>and my horse always get freaked out in this one area.

766
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:53.880
<v Speaker 2>And then he took a screenshot of where she pinpointed,

767
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:58.920
<v Speaker 2>and sure enough, that's where I go had my first

768
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:02.159
<v Speaker 2>encounter and my my major of my research all I

769
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:04.960
<v Speaker 2>do is out there, and I was like, man, it's

770
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:07.719
<v Speaker 2>all coming together. It's just coincidence. It's like that. It

771
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:14.440
<v Speaker 2>makes it so much fun. You got to just keep pushing. Recently,

772
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:19.159
<v Speaker 2>I decided to start pushing up to the go State

773
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:25.159
<v Speaker 2>Forest because there's just the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds

774
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:28.840
<v Speaker 2>and hundreds reports for up there, and I know for

775
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:34.199
<v Speaker 2>a fact the BRFO is not getting a chance to

776
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:36.880
<v Speaker 2>go through other reports because I know for a fact

777
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:39.239
<v Speaker 2>they don't have enough researchers in the state of Florida

778
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:41.639
<v Speaker 2>who are people who are submitting those reports to them,

779
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:43.400
<v Speaker 2>that they can go through them all. So a lot

780
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:46.480
<v Speaker 2>of these reports go unchecked, so they reach out to

781
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:49.079
<v Speaker 2>other sources, other Facebook groups and stuff like that, and

782
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:51.239
<v Speaker 2>all I do is I just type in keywords to

783
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:53.960
<v Speaker 2>find it on Facebook, and I'll message people individually like Hey,

784
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:56.039
<v Speaker 2>I want to hear your story, can you tell me

785
00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:58.519
<v Speaker 2>where it was, and stuff like that. The Go Thi

786
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:01.800
<v Speaker 2>State Forest, I think is a seriously overlooked hot spot.

787
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Everyone really focuses on Cala. My area, I feel like

788
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:07.920
<v Speaker 2>is an accidental hot spot. I think I just found

789
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:09.719
<v Speaker 2>it at the right time of year, because when I

790
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:12.400
<v Speaker 2>had my encounter is back in September of twenty twenty five,

791
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.599
<v Speaker 2>so I haven't had too much luck there recently, and

792
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:17.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if maybe because the humidity and stuff.

793
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they move around further inland or maybe even more

794
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:25.280
<v Speaker 2>to the coast. But I've been kind of like backing

795
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:26.840
<v Speaker 2>off that area and I'll go out every now and

796
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:29.159
<v Speaker 2>then like random. I'll just go randomly. I don't try

797
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:30.880
<v Speaker 2>to plan it. I'm just like I'm gonna go tonight.

798
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:33.119
<v Speaker 2>I'll just get up kiss go from Gobye. I'll step

799
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:34.800
<v Speaker 2>out the door and be gone for a couple hours.

800
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.760
<v Speaker 2>And I think the go Thy State Forest is going

801
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:46.440
<v Speaker 2>to be a very very good producer of evidence the

802
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:51.360
<v Speaker 2>stories out there that I've heard. I have a friend

803
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I met from doing this who lives up in that

804
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:56.719
<v Speaker 2>general area who told me about an encounter he had

805
00:43:56.760 --> 00:44:00.199
<v Speaker 2>out by my original area where something came in was

806
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:03.639
<v Speaker 2>growling at them and stuff like that. So me and

807
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:05.559
<v Speaker 2>him linked up and we're like we should as mutual

808
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:07.760
<v Speaker 2>interest like that. He's an older gentleman, so he doesn't

809
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:10.320
<v Speaker 2>really go out by himself, but he he came out

810
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:12.239
<v Speaker 2>with me and Franklin to go camping for a while

811
00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:14.840
<v Speaker 2>to go check out our report that he got up there,

812
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:20.039
<v Speaker 2>and really cool guy. Honestly, I cannot say enough about

813
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:24.800
<v Speaker 2>this dude. Joe is a really well rounded person and

814
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:28.519
<v Speaker 2>We're going to try to spend more time up there

815
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:33.239
<v Speaker 2>and see what else we can produce. So if any

816
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:36.039
<v Speaker 2>of your listeners live in that general area, have had

817
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:37.599
<v Speaker 2>any counter in that area, and they want to reach

818
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:38.800
<v Speaker 2>out to you, they could reach out to me or

819
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:41.199
<v Speaker 2>vice versa. That would be fantastics. I would love to

820
00:44:41.239 --> 00:44:42.960
<v Speaker 2>hear more about it and actually get out there and

821
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:52.119
<v Speaker 2>go research those areas. It's it's fun. People need to

822
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:55.199
<v Speaker 2>get out and do it more. I think I'd rather

823
00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:59.480
<v Speaker 2>be looking for sasquatch than dog man, though I think

824
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:02.800
<v Speaker 2>I'd rather pass on that. Luckily, there's not too many

825
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:05.239
<v Speaker 2>reports of that in Florida.

826
00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Don't be too sure about there not being a good

827
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:11.079
<v Speaker 1>population of dog men in Florida, because yeah, there are

828
00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:13.920
<v Speaker 1>quite a few down there. And with that in mind,

829
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:16.480
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned it now, But when you've been out doing

830
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:19.440
<v Speaker 1>field investigations, if you ever thought about the possibility of

831
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.199
<v Speaker 1>you bumping into one, bumping into a dog man, and

832
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:25.119
<v Speaker 1>if you did that, would that almost make you want

833
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:26.239
<v Speaker 1>to pack up and head home.

834
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:30.079
<v Speaker 2>The idea of running into one of those things. I

835
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:34.800
<v Speaker 2>firmly believe there has to be some really good credence

836
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:37.280
<v Speaker 2>to that, because you have the story of the LBL

837
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:39.320
<v Speaker 2>and the fact that that's a real police report and

838
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:42.519
<v Speaker 2>they found that young girl up the tree, staked in

839
00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:46.559
<v Speaker 2>the tree, is that's terrifying, Like could that have been

840
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:49.480
<v Speaker 2>a person? Sure could have been a maniac. Also, that's

841
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:52.920
<v Speaker 2>very animal like behavior to drag something up a tree.

842
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:56.440
<v Speaker 2>So the idea, oh man, it gives me goosebumps every

843
00:45:56.480 --> 00:46:01.039
<v Speaker 2>time I talk about that story. The idea of running

844
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:06.880
<v Speaker 2>into a dog man, it's it would definitely lead to pause.

845
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:12.199
<v Speaker 2>If I saw one, I'd probably be walking around with

846
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:15.320
<v Speaker 2>a higher caliber. I know my one buddy goes out

847
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:19.679
<v Speaker 2>with a higher caliber. I'm honestly in the ballparker probably

848
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:23.719
<v Speaker 2>get a higher caliber myself specifically for something like that,

849
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:27.760
<v Speaker 2>because like you hear these stories of these people just

850
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:30.400
<v Speaker 2>dumping around in these things and they just keep coming

851
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:34.559
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like that, that's scary that the idea of

852
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:40.000
<v Speaker 2>seeing that face to face is terrifying. Nobody wants to

853
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:42.480
<v Speaker 2>see that. And I hear in all the stories of

854
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:44.880
<v Speaker 2>on these podcasts and people talking about it, when they

855
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:47.679
<v Speaker 2>see it face to face, you can hear even if

856
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:50.440
<v Speaker 2>if they're faking it, they're really good at faking fear

857
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:52.880
<v Speaker 2>because of the way they're describing it. That's a fear

858
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:58.159
<v Speaker 2>response that's immediately like the recognization of like this thing

859
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:00.960
<v Speaker 2>wants to hurt me. It's I'm foo to whatever this is.

860
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:05.239
<v Speaker 2>And there's a lot of stories and reports them I

861
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:07.800
<v Speaker 2>know from Okalla. I don't know where any reds else

862
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:09.840
<v Speaker 2>maybe you know of, but I know a lot of

863
00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:13.719
<v Speaker 2>them come out of Okaala State Forest. So I've only

864
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:16.599
<v Speaker 2>been there once. Nothing happened. I'm not even gonna bring

865
00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:18.039
<v Speaker 2>it up because it was just, you know, a fun

866
00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:22.159
<v Speaker 2>time to go out with some friends. But I'm interested

867
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:23.960
<v Speaker 2>in going out there and seeing if we can find

868
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:27.639
<v Speaker 2>some evidence of them after I get a hire caliber

869
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:30.760
<v Speaker 2>to have my hip. I don't want to be out

870
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:34.840
<v Speaker 2>there and run into that face to face seeing that

871
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:37.960
<v Speaker 2>as close as I saw the ice shine, that would

872
00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:41.559
<v Speaker 2>probably scare the crap out of me. Honestly, I like

873
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:44.760
<v Speaker 2>to say, I'm pretty, you know, pretty stoke in how

874
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I handle myself. I'm not really scared of much like that.

875
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:49.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't freak out every sound, so I just listen

876
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:51.800
<v Speaker 2>and I'm very observant so that again, I'm a larger guy,

877
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:55.599
<v Speaker 2>and my mindset is that we are the kings of

878
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:58.760
<v Speaker 2>the jungle. I don't care anyone says mankind rules this

879
00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:02.760
<v Speaker 2>planet for a reason. We mold everything to fit us,

880
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:06.480
<v Speaker 2>and something like that. You can't bend and mold it

881
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:08.239
<v Speaker 2>because it's going to bend and mold you as it

882
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:15.280
<v Speaker 2>sees fit. It's it's very scary to even think that

883
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.800
<v Speaker 2>other people have experienced that or have lost their lives

884
00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:18.559
<v Speaker 2>to something like that.

885
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, most people don't react very well to seeing a dog,

886
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:24.800
<v Speaker 1>mean that close, as close as what you saw that

887
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch that night, that's a given. It's one thing to

888
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:32.760
<v Speaker 1>think sasquatch exists, Mike. It's totally different though, to know

889
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:35.960
<v Speaker 1>they do. With that in mind, and what ways has

890
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:39.480
<v Speaker 1>your life being changed now that you know definitively that

891
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:42.719
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch or reality.

892
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:46.159
<v Speaker 2>It's opened me up to more possibilities. Again, I've always

893
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:48.119
<v Speaker 2>been interested in like the paranormal and stuff like that.

894
00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:48.599
<v Speaker 3>You know.

895
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:51.639
<v Speaker 2>I grew up when Ghost Hunters came out. I'm sci fi,

896
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:53.400
<v Speaker 2>so I watched that. I was like, oh, this is

897
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:56.639
<v Speaker 2>so cool, you know, And I've always been interested in

898
00:48:56.719 --> 00:48:58.079
<v Speaker 2>so that. But a lot of times I hear so

899
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:00.920
<v Speaker 2>many stories in my first thought processes, bull crap, No

900
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:03.280
<v Speaker 2>way you didn't see that, and then I've even when

901
00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:05.360
<v Speaker 2>i'd hear stories as a kid, I'd be well, take

902
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:07.800
<v Speaker 2>me there, show me, and they're like, oh, I can't.

903
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, you're lying. And now I'm like, maybe

904
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:16.599
<v Speaker 2>they're not. They're not lying. Maybe I'm Maybe I'm the

905
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:20.119
<v Speaker 2>problem there by not being more open minded back then,

906
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:21.880
<v Speaker 2>and so I've gotten older, I'm like, I could be

907
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:25.079
<v Speaker 2>more open minded about this. So after seeing what I saw,

908
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:28.280
<v Speaker 2>and again, it could have definitely been a Champanzee in

909
00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:32.480
<v Speaker 2>the woods, but like the fingers, it looked like us,

910
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:35.920
<v Speaker 2>just hairy, you know, it was jet black. I was.

911
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:40.480
<v Speaker 2>I was physically taller than whatever I saw go across

912
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:44.880
<v Speaker 2>the trail. It could have been a Champanzee. But the

913
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:48.320
<v Speaker 2>idea of a wild animal Florida that's gotten out of

914
00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:51.159
<v Speaker 2>somebody's house like that, it's not far fetched. Then. I'm

915
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:53.559
<v Speaker 2>pretty sure that's kind of not far fetched in every

916
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:56.800
<v Speaker 2>state in the US because how large we are. People

917
00:49:56.840 --> 00:50:00.719
<v Speaker 2>do weird things. People do weird behavior here. They have

918
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:04.920
<v Speaker 2>weird habits, they do weird collections. It's a normal thing.

919
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:13.239
<v Speaker 2>So the idea that they exist and are real, to me,

920
00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:16.679
<v Speaker 2>it's just made life a little bit more funner, I

921
00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:23.280
<v Speaker 2>would say, they answer your question. It's it was a

922
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:26.320
<v Speaker 2>lot to take in, but now it's just more like

923
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I get excited, you know when somebody calls me, Hey,

924
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:30.119
<v Speaker 2>do you want to go to the spot, like, let's

925
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:30.400
<v Speaker 2>do it.

926
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's great. Yeah's just giving you another thing in

927
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:36.920
<v Speaker 1>your life to look forward to. And I guarantee there

928
00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:39.599
<v Speaker 1>are no chimps running around it. When they stand up,

929
00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:44.760
<v Speaker 1>they're a foot two feet taller than you are. So yeah,

930
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:46.239
<v Speaker 1>that definitely wasn't a gymp.

931
00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Well I'm saying the small one I saw could have been,

932
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:54.440
<v Speaker 2>but the big one definitely ain't. No seven eight foot

933
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:56.920
<v Speaker 2>tall chip run around. I guess that would be what

934
00:50:57.039 --> 00:50:59.159
<v Speaker 2>the Gigano pithiciss they talk about.

935
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then some other than being attacked by a

936
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:08.760
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch and never having a clear daylight sighting, what's your

937
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:11.880
<v Speaker 1>biggest fear when it comes to doing field investigations?

938
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:20.559
<v Speaker 2>People, people, people worry me. There's a reason why everyone

939
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:22.480
<v Speaker 2>has the joke Florida man. You know what I mean?

940
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:26.440
<v Speaker 2>There are some really wild people out there. Great example

941
00:51:26.599 --> 00:51:28.400
<v Speaker 2>is one of the time it's being Frank Rout and

942
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.119
<v Speaker 2>we were out scouting some areas like that. And we

943
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:32.719
<v Speaker 2>came back to camp to make some lunch and some

944
00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:36.320
<v Speaker 2>of that, and we had these two individuals sitting in

945
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:41.079
<v Speaker 2>our camp in our chairs and we're both like staring

946
00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:43.880
<v Speaker 2>at him. We're like, are you kidding me? And again

947
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:46.480
<v Speaker 2>they were an older couple, so I get they were

948
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:48.639
<v Speaker 2>tired of that. But like there was benches and other

949
00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:53.239
<v Speaker 2>things there. It's a camps that you reserve. So I'm like,

950
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:56.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's pretty ballsy to just do that randomly.

951
00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:02.320
<v Speaker 2>And I've run some really odd people in the woods.

952
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:05.079
<v Speaker 2>I've run some very awesome people in the woods too,

953
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:07.280
<v Speaker 2>who are just normal hunters. And those usually my favorite

954
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:11.199
<v Speaker 2>people will talk to. They see everything. People scare me

955
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:15.079
<v Speaker 2>in the woods because you never know about that element

956
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:17.199
<v Speaker 2>of like what are they gonna do? You know, with animals,

957
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:21.400
<v Speaker 2>you can kind of predict most of their behavior. Satsquash

958
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:22.840
<v Speaker 2>dook Man, you really can't do that. But I'm talking

959
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:25.079
<v Speaker 2>about your everyday animals. They bogs and stuff like that.

960
00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:26.519
<v Speaker 2>If you can keep away from them and they don't

961
00:52:26.519 --> 00:52:29.159
<v Speaker 2>really get sent to you, you're usually pretty safe. You know,

962
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:31.679
<v Speaker 2>most black bears they see you, they take off running.

963
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I've been very fortunate in my life of thirty four

964
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:38.119
<v Speaker 2>years old to be able to see two Florida panthers.

965
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:42.960
<v Speaker 2>That was really cool. But people scare me. The element

966
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:45.440
<v Speaker 2>of people in the woods is it's a wild factor

967
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:47.519
<v Speaker 2>that everyone should really take into account when you going

968
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:50.440
<v Speaker 2>out there. That's why when people talk about going out

969
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:55.039
<v Speaker 2>and not having some form of protection and stuff with that,

970
00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I kind of scoff at that acts. I'm like, man,

971
00:52:57.239 --> 00:53:01.000
<v Speaker 2>you gotta have something, Carrie Spray, I have something on you,

972
00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:05.159
<v Speaker 2>just something to protect yourself from. Please, because it's it's

973
00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:08.519
<v Speaker 2>it's not sasquatching everything else I'm worried about. It's it's people.

974
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's understandable. You had your first experience of that

975
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:18.360
<v Speaker 1>old cemetery. Do you think there's anything to the notion

976
00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:21.159
<v Speaker 1>that sasquatch or drawn to cemeteries?

977
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:25.880
<v Speaker 2>So I read into that a lot because again I

978
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:31.400
<v Speaker 2>went down the rabbit hole after my experience, and I

979
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:34.519
<v Speaker 2>think maybe because it's a quiet area, but at the

980
00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:38.000
<v Speaker 2>same time it seems kind of out of place. It's like,

981
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:42.400
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't you suspect people to show up eventually? Mine would

982
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:45.199
<v Speaker 2>make sense because again, this one, you really have to

983
00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:48.000
<v Speaker 2>go off trail to get to it. There's four of them.

984
00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:55.320
<v Speaker 2>In this forest and this one it's probably second hardest

985
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:59.679
<v Speaker 2>to get to, but the other ones are really hard

986
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:02.239
<v Speaker 2>to get to. So I don't really know if there's

987
00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:04.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of proof to that. But I've also heard

988
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:07.760
<v Speaker 2>stories that dog man are also attracted as cemeteries too,

989
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:11.280
<v Speaker 2>because it seems to be a lot of reports circulating around,

990
00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:14.480
<v Speaker 2>like Michigan's a great example of all the remote cemeteries

991
00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:18.480
<v Speaker 2>out there. So I don't know. Maybe it's a quiet place,

992
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:23.519
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's an energy thing. There's some cemeteries that we've

993
00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:28.159
<v Speaker 2>gone to to Clinging where it's I see all the

994
00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:31.079
<v Speaker 2>I have kids. I have two kids myself, so anytime

995
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:35.039
<v Speaker 2>I see small tombstones and you know, very short years

996
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:37.239
<v Speaker 2>of life, it kind of chokes me up because it

997
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:39.679
<v Speaker 2>really brings it to my appreciation for my children, how

998
00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I have them now and stuff, and it makes me sad,

999
00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:48.800
<v Speaker 2>you know. So maybe it's an energy thing. I've heard

1000
00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:51.280
<v Speaker 2>that so many times now that I really don't know

1001
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:57.480
<v Speaker 2>how to give that a straight answer, but it's it's weird.

1002
00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:00.440
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of reports around some terris.

1003
00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:03.639
<v Speaker 1>It sure does seem like there might be something to that,

1004
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:06.320
<v Speaker 1>and if there is, it sure makes you wonder what

1005
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:08.079
<v Speaker 1>would draw them to a cemetery.

1006
00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:13.320
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea. It's again, I'm leaning more towards

1007
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:16.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe like the energy factor of the cemetery. The cemetery

1008
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:17.760
<v Speaker 2>that we spend a lot of time on, the one

1009
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:20.800
<v Speaker 2>where this happened. It's an old colored cemetery, it's an

1010
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:24.760
<v Speaker 2>old black cemetery, and it's it's kind of neglected and

1011
00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:27.000
<v Speaker 2>so that so fortunately for me and my girlfriend, we

1012
00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:30.239
<v Speaker 2>reached out to the State Forester Department and we were

1013
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:33.119
<v Speaker 2>given legal permission to be in there and help maintain

1014
00:55:33.159 --> 00:55:35.840
<v Speaker 2>and help fix things up and stuff like that, and

1015
00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:38.119
<v Speaker 2>we try to do as much as we can out

1016
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:43.960
<v Speaker 2>there or what we have. So it's it again, I've

1017
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:45.960
<v Speaker 2>mean thinking about it now talking about this view, I'd

1018
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:47.960
<v Speaker 2>definitely say it's probably gonna be more about the energy

1019
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:52.119
<v Speaker 2>of the factor, because there's been times we've gone to

1020
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:54.719
<v Speaker 2>that cemetery night where you like, you feel like something's wrong,

1021
00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:57.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, like you really shouldn't be there, and then

1022
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:01.360
<v Speaker 2>most time we're there, it's fine to any other cemetery,

1023
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:03.280
<v Speaker 2>nothing crazy, you know, odd feelings.

1024
00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, if there are drawing to energies around cemeteries, and

1025
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that would lend credence to the idea that there are

1026
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:14.719
<v Speaker 1>supernatural beings or spiritual beings, so one thing leads to another.

1027
00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I guess when it comes to that. I don't know.

1028
00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:21.480
<v Speaker 1>When the sasquatch was moving across your field of view,

1029
00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:24.880
<v Speaker 1>holding its arms the way it did, were shoulders facing

1030
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:28.559
<v Speaker 1>toward its direction of travel or did it have its

1031
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:30.760
<v Speaker 1>shoulders facing you while.

1032
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:34.840
<v Speaker 2>It moved sideways direction or travel? It almost looked like

1033
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:36.920
<v Speaker 2>it was using until I kind of help balance it.

1034
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:42.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, if I had to guesstimate how tall, i'd

1035
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:44.000
<v Speaker 2>say that thing was, then it was some four to

1036
00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:48.039
<v Speaker 2>five feet. Because I was at six', ONE i was

1037
00:56:48.119 --> 00:56:53.400
<v Speaker 2>definitely am much larger than. It SO i don't know the.

1038
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:56.199
<v Speaker 2>Anatomy maybe someone else has seen these juveniles and maybe

1039
00:56:56.199 --> 00:56:58.559
<v Speaker 2>they have a hard time walking in their early years or.

1040
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Something mike said we talked about. It he's, like maybe

1041
00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:04.199
<v Speaker 2>it was trying to be bigger than you BECAUSE i

1042
00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:06.599
<v Speaker 2>saw how big you. Were you, know WHEN i Say i'm,

1043
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Big i'm not, like you, Know i'm just a tall.

1044
00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Guy but he's, like MAYBE i saw how big you

1045
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:14.360
<v Speaker 2>were and it's got, worried and so that WAS i don't.

1046
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Know it was. Weird but then WHEN i were at

1047
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:20.440
<v Speaker 2>the zoo a few months pasted after that happened with the,

1048
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:22.960
<v Speaker 2>kids AND i was over about the primate area And

1049
00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:24.920
<v Speaker 2>i'm watching them walk around and they were doing the same,

1050
00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:26.480
<v Speaker 2>thing using it from it and look like they were

1051
00:57:26.559 --> 00:57:30.239
<v Speaker 2>using it for a balance to go, across like just

1052
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:32.519
<v Speaker 2>walking on the. Grass and my car comes over and

1053
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:34.159
<v Speaker 2>she smacks me in the. Show she's like stop. IT

1054
00:57:34.599 --> 00:57:35.960
<v Speaker 2>i was like, What she's, LIKE i know what you're.

1055
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Doing you're staring at them trying to understand why that

1056
00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:40.039
<v Speaker 2>thing walked away a. LOT i was, LIKE i have

1057
00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:43.239
<v Speaker 2>know what you're talking. About she's on to.

1058
00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:47.159
<v Speaker 1>You, yeah you can take a squatcher out of the,

1059
00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:49.360
<v Speaker 1>woods but you can't take the woods out of a.

1060
00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:52.719
<v Speaker 2>SQUATCHER i ain't that the. TRUTH i feel like EVERYTHING

1061
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:56.440
<v Speaker 2>i do, now every TIME I i, work like anywhere's

1062
00:57:56.480 --> 00:57:58.159
<v Speaker 2>in like a remote. Area i'm always looking in the

1063
00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:00.559
<v Speaker 2>tree line now and stuff and just kind of scanning.

1064
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:04.039
<v Speaker 2>Around And i'll telling, you, well one Day i'm a

1065
00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:06.360
<v Speaker 2>find like a really good tree break Because i'm kind

1066
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:08.960
<v Speaker 2>of Like iffy on the tree break things and stuff like.

1067
00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:11.559
<v Speaker 2>That and IF i find like one that's really high

1068
00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:14.159
<v Speaker 2>up and makes no sense that it's perfectly snap over someone's.

1069
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:17.280
<v Speaker 2>BACKYARD i might start a different conversation when it WHEN

1070
00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:20.320
<v Speaker 2>i finish up What i'm. Doing all that you.

1071
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Might you, know that's a good thing, though helps you notice.

1072
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Things how sure are you that what you saw that

1073
00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:29.000
<v Speaker 1>night was eye shine and not back lit?

1074
00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:36.599
<v Speaker 2>Eyes it looked right at, me it was it was

1075
00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:40.480
<v Speaker 2>where it was and the eye. Shine so we've SEEN

1076
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:44.599
<v Speaker 2>i guess it would be the second. TIME i. Guess

1077
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:48.119
<v Speaker 2>how DO i want to put? This so me And

1078
00:58:48.199 --> 00:58:52.000
<v Speaker 2>mike were together one night and we're an inch cheap

1079
00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:56.480
<v Speaker 2>and he was flipping around AND i saw what looked

1080
00:58:56.519 --> 00:59:00.719
<v Speaker 2>like eye. SHINE i can't guarantee you eye, shine but

1081
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:06.559
<v Speaker 2>it was like that, yellowish kind of greenish. Color it

1082
00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:08.800
<v Speaker 2>almost reminded me a little bit of like a cat

1083
00:59:08.840 --> 00:59:10.920
<v Speaker 2>eye when you shine a light at it or something like,

1084
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:13.440
<v Speaker 2>that and you could see the. Reflection and that's HOW

1085
00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:15.239
<v Speaker 2>i knew because like WHEN i saw the eye shine,

1086
00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:17.480
<v Speaker 2>INITIALLY i mind, YOU i was turning my head BECAUSE

1087
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:18.880
<v Speaker 2>i was going to look at whatever was making all

1088
00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:22.039
<v Speaker 2>that noise in the, brush AND i caught it completely

1089
00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:24.360
<v Speaker 2>by accident and just snapped my head right to. It

1090
00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:26.159
<v Speaker 2>because IMMEDIATELY i was, like oh, Crap.

1091
00:59:27.079 --> 00:59:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll bet you said something a little more harsh than,

1092
00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:36.320
<v Speaker 1>that BUT i understand AND i appreciate. It you told

1093
00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:39.079
<v Speaker 1>us about all those owls you heard hooting that. Night

1094
00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:42.000
<v Speaker 1>how sure are you though that those were actually owls

1095
00:59:42.159 --> 00:59:43.559
<v Speaker 1>and not something else.

1096
00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Some of them, were Because i've heard owls all my

1097
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:49.400
<v Speaker 2>life growing. UP i grew up in the. STICKS i,

1098
00:59:49.480 --> 00:59:52.440
<v Speaker 2>live you, know in a city pretty much, NOW i say,

1099
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Loosely i'm gonna use you, know air quotes here for

1100
00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:57.119
<v Speaker 2>a city. Quote but Spring hill is not what it

1101
00:59:57.199 --> 00:59:59.159
<v Speaker 2>used to be WHEN i was growing. Up but WHERE

1102
00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:01.440
<v Speaker 2>i grew up at was actually kind of closer to

1103
01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:04.719
<v Speaker 2>where this sighting is not right on, it but you,

1104
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:07.840
<v Speaker 2>know twenty thirty minutes away from there as opposed to

1105
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:15.599
<v Speaker 2>WHERE i am. Now So i've heard owls all my.

1106
01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Life i've heard the screech, owls and some of them

1107
01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:23.679
<v Speaker 2>sounded like, owls and some of them sounded a little bit.

1108
01:00:23.719 --> 01:00:26.519
<v Speaker 2>Deeper i'm not a certainly they were all. Owls it

1109
01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:29.599
<v Speaker 2>could have. Been i've heard stories of people talking about them.

1110
01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:32.920
<v Speaker 2>MIMICKING i can't sit here and Say i've definitely heard,

1111
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:36.159
<v Speaker 2>that BECAUSE i. Haven't i've loved to hear it and

1112
01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:38.440
<v Speaker 2>catch on an audio and just put it out there

1113
01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:39.960
<v Speaker 2>for other people to be, like that's, it that's WHAT i,

1114
01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:44.320
<v Speaker 2>heard you know WHAT i. Mean but it was really

1115
01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:46.880
<v Speaker 2>weird because we've walked that trail so many times AND

1116
01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:50.440
<v Speaker 2>i hear barn owls every now and. Then there were

1117
01:00:50.719 --> 01:00:54.800
<v Speaker 2>so many that, night and it was just back and,

1118
01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:56.480
<v Speaker 2>forth back and, forth back and forth the whole TIME

1119
01:00:56.519 --> 01:00:58.079
<v Speaker 2>i was. WALKING i think it was BECAUSE i was by.

1120
01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:00.119
<v Speaker 2>Myself that was one of the first TIMES i was

1121
01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:01.559
<v Speaker 2>really by myself walking the.

1122
01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Trail, yeah you would know all that, experience all that

1123
01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:08.239
<v Speaker 1>time out there in the, woods growing up in the,

1124
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Woods so, yeah you would definitely. Know what's been the

1125
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:15.840
<v Speaker 1>hardest lesson you've had to learn while investigating these.

1126
01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Guys not to get your hopes, up not to go

1127
01:01:26.360 --> 01:01:29.559
<v Speaker 2>out and expect something to, happen because it's not gonna.

1128
01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:31.840
<v Speaker 2>HAPPEN i feel like a broken record plan is saying.

1129
01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:33.920
<v Speaker 2>THIS i told us to everybody who asked me about,

1130
01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:36.559
<v Speaker 2>this like at, work say, No i'm interested in this

1131
01:01:36.599 --> 01:01:38.719
<v Speaker 2>stuff like, that or family and friends asked me about.

1132
01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:44.760
<v Speaker 2>It to not go out and expect you to, see you,

1133
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:48.840
<v Speaker 2>know a beast standing in them of the road waving at. You, saying,

1134
01:01:48.840 --> 01:01:52.559
<v Speaker 2>hey how's it, Going because it's not gonna, happen you

1135
01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:55.960
<v Speaker 2>have a chance. ENCOUNTER i wasn't doing this a year.

1136
01:01:56.039 --> 01:01:59.440
<v Speaker 2>AGO a year, AGO i was just hanging out with

1137
01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:03.119
<v Speaker 2>my girlfriend doing other things like, That like completely by

1138
01:02:03.239 --> 01:02:05.800
<v Speaker 2>chance THAT i fell into. This never in my life

1139
01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:09.679
<v Speaker 2>THOUGHT i would ever see, one BECAUSE i would Just

1140
01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:12.239
<v Speaker 2>i'd go into the woods all the, time fishing and.

1141
01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:15.679
<v Speaker 2>Stuff never had anything. Happen but then after, this NOW

1142
01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:19.639
<v Speaker 2>i look back on stuff And i'm just, like, gee, maybe.

1143
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:24.239
<v Speaker 1>YEAH i have the experiences that you've, had and it'll

1144
01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:27.239
<v Speaker 1>definitely open up your eyes to the. Possibilities that's a.

1145
01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Given what's about time for us to call it, Here.

1146
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Mike but before we, DO i just want to thank

1147
01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:34.920
<v Speaker 1>you so much for coming. On i'm sharing those experiences with.

1148
01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:36.199
<v Speaker 1>US i really appreciate.

1149
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:40.320
<v Speaker 2>IT i appreciate you to give me the time to voice,

1150
01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:42.280
<v Speaker 2>this and you got a good. Platform i've listened to

1151
01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:44.199
<v Speaker 2>quite a few of your. EPISODES i really enjoy what you're,

1152
01:02:44.199 --> 01:02:47.440
<v Speaker 2>doing and hopefully in the, future if something else, Happens

1153
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:49.199
<v Speaker 2>i'll have some really, good juicy stories for.

1154
01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:53.039
<v Speaker 1>You well you, Know i'll be here if anything like that. Happens,

1155
01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:55.360
<v Speaker 1>yeah please do let me. Know i'd love to bring

1156
01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:59.320
<v Speaker 1>you back. ON i appreciate you. Well it goes two.

1157
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Ways thanks again so much for your time and have

1158
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:02.800
<v Speaker 1>a great.

1159
01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:13.039
<v Speaker 3>Night that's it for another episode Of Bigfoot Eyewitness radio

1160
01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:17.039
<v Speaker 3>With Vic. Kundiff if you've had a sasquatch encounter and

1161
01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:19.239
<v Speaker 3>would like to be a guest on the, show please

1162
01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:22.480
<v Speaker 3>go To Bigfoot eyewitness dot com and submit a. Report

1163
01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:27.360
<v Speaker 3>we'd love to hear from. You thanks for, listening have

1164
01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:27.840
<v Speaker 3>a great.

1165
01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:32.679
<v Speaker 2>Night