Speaker 1: What's up, everybody.
Speaker 2: It's me Cecily Knobler here with Stephanie Wilder Taylor. Hi,
Speaker 2: it's Monday, Hei, it's actually Sunday, for full disclosure, but
Speaker 2: we are a day early. And I say that because
Speaker 2: just in case something absolutely outrageous happens.
Speaker 1: Wow, you're listening. Sure, I've had to I can't tell you.
Speaker 2: I've had to say that on the radio because I
Speaker 2: used to be live on my radio shows. Like I
Speaker 2: literally got up at two thirty and started on the
Speaker 2: East Coast working backwards with daily news.
Speaker 1: You know how long I did that? For like fifteen years.
Speaker 2: I was live from two thirty am to six thirty
Speaker 2: am every day. That was just one of my jobs.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, It's totally crazy. But now most of my
Speaker 2: you know, we do MP threas and so we stack
Speaker 2: them a little little bit. And it's hard to stack
Speaker 2: the news, you know, it's hard. And I've had it
Speaker 2: happen where I'm.
Speaker 1: Like oopsies, oopsies, yes, this big thing.
Speaker 2: But also you're going to get those big things from
Speaker 2: the real like the CNN News too, if they're that big.
Speaker 2: So we're just doing what we do and you know that,
Speaker 2: and you're fine, with it. They are people are people
Speaker 2: are super fine with it. They're super fine. Our audience
Speaker 2: is super fine anyway, sexy as fuck. I mean really,
Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding about that. We genuinely have good
Speaker 2: looking listeners, at least the people that have reached out
Speaker 2: to us or on our like Facebook and stuff like
Speaker 2: you're a bunch of hotties. Oh, especially the people on
Speaker 2: our Patreon too.
Speaker 1: It's like, what now, you're kind of making a joke here,
Speaker 1: I'm totally serious. I could name them off. I'd make
Speaker 1: them uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Maybe i'd get sued, but like, I name five hot
Speaker 2: people that listen to our show, and I could probably
Speaker 2: name a hundred.
Speaker 1: You gave me time, but that's what we're doing today.
Speaker 1: I just I just started going through. I like, even
Speaker 1: you're like.
Speaker 2: You're not even supposed to know this many people like
Speaker 2: you're not You don't have to name every person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you know if you do that, there are
Speaker 3: going to there are going to be some people that
Speaker 3: get their feelings hurt, that are like, oh, I'm not
Speaker 3: one of your hot listeners.
Speaker 2: Well, just if you're listening, you're hot. I've not seen
Speaker 2: somebody who isn't. And that's not what we care about.
Speaker 2: We care about the inside of you, but like lucky
Speaker 2: you that you also get to be hot.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't care that much about the inside.
Speaker 3: I'm not a doctor, you know what I mean? What
Speaker 3: do I know about the inside? Not looking at their
Speaker 3: X rays? I'm you know, you're extra podcaster looking.
Speaker 2: At their bones and skeletons. I don't know what kind
Speaker 2: of calcium deposits they have. It doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 1: I'm not like that.
Speaker 2: You have pretty eyes. That's a beautiful brown eyes. Beautiful
Speaker 2: you have, Stephanie, beautiful brown eyes. They're beautiful. So yes,
Speaker 2: you want to put your penis into many random women,
Speaker 2: but to give them all beautiful brown eyes, yes, they
Speaker 2: have to also have beautiful brown eyes, like you know,
Speaker 2: big beautiful brown eyes. Now it's kind of shifted. It
Speaker 2: was supposed to be German. It's become a little Indian. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we are referencing ninety Dave fiance. I want to say
Speaker 2: the other way, which.
Speaker 3: We complained we bitterly complained about. Okay, we were like,
Speaker 3: when is this fucking thing going to be over? We
Speaker 3: hated it so much while we are doing it, but
Speaker 3: it left us with so many treats like it was
Speaker 3: in the end like we were the losers.
Speaker 2: We should have enjoyed it while while it was happening.
Speaker 1: It will loose us, We will lose up pure loose s.
Speaker 2: There was just so much craziness in that season. Wasn't
Speaker 2: that didn't we have a Sper?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it wasn't just that.
Speaker 2: I think that was a different season. This is the
Speaker 2: one where they were like off on an island or something.
Speaker 2: It was even worse. Sarper was its own thing. They
Speaker 2: were both terrible because each one of them had ninety
Speaker 2: seven episodes. It never ended, and I'm not even joking
Speaker 2: it went. One of them went five months. We covered
Speaker 2: that show for five.
Speaker 3: Yes, what was the one that had the older, the
Speaker 3: much older gay couple. Oh, the guy was older and
Speaker 3: the it was a guy that was older and it
Speaker 3: was a woman who was transitioning.
Speaker 2: Remember and his name was Sean.
Speaker 1: Yes, we liked we kind of liked him. Remember, we
Speaker 1: liked them both, we.
Speaker 3: Did, but there were there were some like problematic things
Speaker 3: with him.
Speaker 2: But it was like it was so weak. It was interesting.
Speaker 1: I liked that.
Speaker 2: I liked that couple. They were interesting. Yeah, and we
Speaker 2: really liked the person who was transitioning. Yeah, sure, yes,
Speaker 2: I forgot about I mean we did. That was the
Speaker 2: problem with the show. There's way too Sometimes there can
Speaker 2: be too much content, and we're aware of that, which
Speaker 2: is why we give you what you need. We don't
Speaker 2: it's a camp all day, every day. It's just what
Speaker 2: who was time?
Speaker 1: Even? Right?
Speaker 2: Was time?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Speaking of that, we we know sometimes Okay. The way
Speaker 2: I'm going to get into saying this is sometimes, okay,
Speaker 2: Cecily and I just we were like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: we want to talk about this story. Now.
Speaker 3: Have we had a lot of time to like research
Speaker 3: everything about it.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Sometimes we're like, you know what, We're just gonna hop on,
Speaker 2: start talking about it and figure out how we feel
Speaker 2: as we go. And that's not always the best way
Speaker 2: to do it.
Speaker 1: I think it is.
Speaker 2: Actually sometimes I do kind of because we're just friends
Speaker 2: talking about shit, which is how this podcast started.
Speaker 3: Yes, sometimes the problem with that is we end up
Speaker 3: with a with a few regrets.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so right, So we recorded Patreon and if
Speaker 2: you're not montresor a monster a Patreon, it's an hour
Speaker 2: and fifteen minute Patreon. Our patreons are usually not that long.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is like a full this is like
Speaker 2: two or three full shows Patreon, and if you're not
Speaker 2: on there already, you can do it through rose Pricks
Speaker 2: or bard af either way you get it. But you
Speaker 2: can join now, and you might want to because we
Speaker 2: got very not heated with each other, but just very
Speaker 2: red up about talking about the Reggie Wattson situation. For
Speaker 2: those who don't know, he's an alt he was an
Speaker 2: alt comic in this La comedy scene.
Speaker 1: He's very odd and does a lot of stuff music.
Speaker 2: Still is and had a tragy tragic end with an
Speaker 2: ex who trigger warning took her life. And now a
Speaker 2: Rolling Stone article has been written about him essentially with
Speaker 2: many people sort of backing it accusing him of being
Speaker 2: the one responsible for that ending. And we talked about it.
Speaker 2: I mean we read yeah me, and I just want
Speaker 2: to say, like right now and that it will be
Speaker 2: on there too. Even talking even this conversation, I'm trying
Speaker 2: to be very sensitive because massive trigger warning on the
Speaker 2: whole thing. If you're if you are feeling any sort
Speaker 2: of mental health issues, honestly skip it. I'm just going
Speaker 2: to say that because it could be very triggering. On
Speaker 2: the other hand, like it was also very interesting, and
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's an interesting story. It was covered
Speaker 2: extensively in a Rolling Stone article, and we went beyond
Speaker 2: the paywall to give you the story. We read you
Speaker 2: a lot of the article. Oh yeah, stuff gets in.
Speaker 2: I mean, we were shocked. That was definitely an as
Speaker 2: we go because and by the way, if you're wondering, well,
Speaker 2: where is this, this will depending on when you're listening
Speaker 2: to this on Monday. This will come out tomorrow on Patreon,
Speaker 2: So join now if you want. But but but yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll say a couple of things because after we recorded that,
Speaker 2: like on Friday, I kind of went down a rabbit
Speaker 2: hole of everything I could read on Reddit. I became
Speaker 2: very fascinated. And again we don't have to retell the
Speaker 2: whole story. That's the gist of it. But my initial
Speaker 2: and my take stays the same as far as what
Speaker 2: the article was saying. I think it's a very dangerous
Speaker 2: thing to pin someone's unliving on another person. I think
Speaker 2: that that is really fucked up. And you know, we
Speaker 2: all come at things through whatever prism. Like that's one
Speaker 2: of the other things I was going to say that
Speaker 2: I don't know if I said in our Patreon, I
Speaker 2: probably did, which is like I can relate to her
Speaker 2: way more than him. I don't know what it's like
Speaker 2: to be a weirdo ault comedy famous guy. You know,
Speaker 2: I know what it's like to date those guys, and
Speaker 2: I know what it's like to be a woman with
Speaker 2: mental health struggles. Honestly, not to her extent, but you
Speaker 2: know for sure, So my full empathy went to her.
Speaker 2: And in the in the Patreon, Stephanie reads her final
Speaker 2: note and I cry like pride, like it's it's really intense,
Speaker 2: But I still stand by my belief that I don't
Speaker 2: think that he should now be being.
Speaker 1: Dragged for what she did.
Speaker 2: What has changed, however, what I do think after reading
Speaker 2: all this stuff on Reddit and stuff, is that, like
Speaker 2: and both things can be true, is that like he
Speaker 2: is fucking batshit crazy. And it made me kind of
Speaker 2: rethink a little, like, huh so.
Speaker 3: When you say, let me ask you this, when you
Speaker 3: say he's totally batshit crazy, because at you know, she
Speaker 3: had mental health. So are you saying batshit crazy as
Speaker 3: in like a personality disorder like narcissisticy oh no?
Speaker 2: Or are you saying, well, yes, yes, maybe narcissistic yes,
Speaker 2: I mean it's all a spectrum right on that, so
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I mean the amount of drugs. Okay,
Speaker 2: So he is and we talk about this a lot
Speaker 2: on the Patreon that he the Rolling Stone said is
Speaker 2: he's an advocate for ketamine use and not just for therapy,
Speaker 2: I mean large, huge doses just forever and psychedelics and
Speaker 2: all that stuff. We're not even putting that down, we're
Speaker 2: just saying, like it's important to know that. So when
Speaker 2: I started scrolling through all his videos, some of which
Speaker 2: have been deleted, but I saw them like he's just
Speaker 2: really fucked up. And someone made the note on threads,
Speaker 2: which is one of the things I saw, which is like,
Speaker 2: you know, I used to think this guy is just
Speaker 2: like the coolest guy you know, go to Largo, and
Speaker 2: that can all be true. He's still very talented, but
Speaker 2: now I look at the ramblings of him and it's
Speaker 2: just a guy really fucked up on ketamine, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like it's not so like hippy dippy love.
Speaker 2: It's like hmm, you're whoa, And that's not even That's
Speaker 2: just how I see it. It doesn't mean that's good
Speaker 2: or bad that he's fucked up and just rambling. But
Speaker 2: I can see how her family and by her, I
Speaker 2: guess we should tell I guess we are a little
Speaker 2: out of order here. But like Catherine, the woman who passed,
Speaker 2: I could see how her family is like this motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Right, you know, well, they're feeling what they're feeling, and
Speaker 3: this is you know what. I don't want to say,
Speaker 3: our feelings have changed, but her family is saying that
Speaker 3: she was not like the way she was. First of all,
Speaker 3: that one of the things that we feel a little
Speaker 3: bit like needs this disclaimer when you listen to it,
Speaker 3: and you know or not listen to it, so you
Speaker 3: can get some information right here. But one of the
Speaker 3: things that we felt was that she was already liking to.
Speaker 2: Do drugs and well yet either exposed to drugs and
Speaker 2: also had other issues, you know, which most people do.
Speaker 1: A lot of people have issues.
Speaker 2: So you you pair up with someone and he's fun
Speaker 2: and exciting and they seem to have a beautiful relationship
Speaker 2: for like a year they had a relationship.
Speaker 3: She was very open even to the end that she
Speaker 3: was absolutely in love with him, and he was the
Speaker 3: greatest guy and so creative and wonderful, so it's it
Speaker 3: seems hard to in our minds, it seems hard to
Speaker 3: just completely blame him, but something some things are coming up.
Speaker 1: Well, someone wrote this just to lighten it up a
Speaker 1: little bit. This is on the Threads.
Speaker 2: When I looked it up, someone wrote, Reggie watch Watts
Speaker 2: is a cautionary tale about how ketamine, while seeming beneficial,
Speaker 2: can often be a dangerous gateway to musical comedy.
Speaker 1: Now, I didn't expect that that's funny. That is funny.
Speaker 2: But then a lot of people are just like really mad.
Speaker 2: They're like, fuck him, but you know, don't forget the threat.
Speaker 2: The mobs on threads and reddick can begin and never
Speaker 2: end forever. Like that doesn't mean that they're necessarily true,
Speaker 2: but a lot of people seem to be feeling this way.
Speaker 2: I think our take, which I still maintain, is from
Speaker 2: a legal standpoint.
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't know that I am. I'm
Speaker 3: a lawyer, so I look at things a lot from
Speaker 3: not not an emotional way, but like, what does the
Speaker 3: law say?
Speaker 1: You know that's right? Yeah, you do that a lot.
Speaker 2: You do.
Speaker 1: People should know that she does that.
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it when you back me
Speaker 2: on these things and you're like, apps, yes, absolutely, that
Speaker 2: is I mean true about you. Yeah, So.
Speaker 3: I do think that it is a slippery slope to
Speaker 3: start going like, well, it's his fault forgetting you know.
Speaker 3: Their their take is that it's his fault for getting
Speaker 3: her hooked on drugs and she never did drugs like
Speaker 3: that before. There's a lot of nuance, which you'll hear
Speaker 3: in the article, which is is tough. It's tough to
Speaker 3: make a call, a judgment call, but we feel like
Speaker 3: there were while we were going through the story in
Speaker 3: real time, we were definitely having opinions that maybe then
Speaker 3: changed later in the episode. And it is a doozy
Speaker 3: over an hour, so you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 3: don't get mad is what we're trying to say, and.
Speaker 2: To just keep going as we discover and read more
Speaker 2: things and learn things. I still maintain it's it's dangerous
Speaker 2: to claim that he's conssible for that.
Speaker 1: But I will say one more thing about it. A
Speaker 1: video that.
Speaker 2: Was on his Instagram that has now since disappeared been deleted.
Speaker 2: Probably Oh did I tell you? I don't think we
Speaker 2: got to his lawyer, so he's lawyered up right, And
Speaker 2: you know, did we do you know who his lawyer
Speaker 2: also represents, Russell Brand Danny Masterson. No, no, no, there's
Speaker 2: another idiot. Yeah, I now that is beyond That makes
Speaker 2: no sense to me. He knows better than that. If
Speaker 2: he's love and Dove guy, I'm like, why would you
Speaker 2: even like, are you kidding?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Not good.
Speaker 3: Well that that literally changes things for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's real weird. It's so weird.
Speaker 2: But here's another weird thing that I So this video
Speaker 2: that got deleted was him just rambling, and it's funny.
Speaker 2: You know. I used to, like I said, I used
Speaker 2: to be like, oh that's interesting. Maybe I could learn
Speaker 2: a little something about love, you know. And he's like
Speaker 2: love and then he sings and he beat boxes for
Speaker 2: a while, and then he he does this stuff and
Speaker 2: then he starts talking about his his late ex, and
Speaker 2: he's like, you know she he was able to access
Speaker 2: her iPhone, remember that because he had he had access
Speaker 2: to a cloud, so he was able to see after
Speaker 2: the fact. So in this video he was like, did
Speaker 2: we talk about this? He's like, you really planned a
Speaker 2: beautiful trip to Peru? Yes, I'm glad you got to
Speaker 2: see all the art.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well I watched him say it and I was like,
Speaker 2: somehow I didn't remember you saying it, but now it's
Speaker 2: coming back to me.
Speaker 1: But I was like, oh god, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the thing they were like the most
Speaker 2: mad about. They felt like he knew what was happening
Speaker 2: like that, you know, he made it almost sound like
Speaker 2: a good thing. Yeah, totally is like you found your piece,
Speaker 2: you're no longer. And then something I don't think that
Speaker 2: we said is when her dad passed, which I can
Speaker 2: totally relate to, and she kind of lost it, you know,
Speaker 2: and allegedly he said to her like, yeah, I can't
Speaker 2: with all this, like I don't do grief. Now, that
Speaker 2: doesn't that shouldn't.
Speaker 1: You're still not responsible for what she does. But it's shitty,
Speaker 1: like maybe just like not awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't think there'll be any confusion. I
Speaker 3: don't think we ever were. Like he seems like a
Speaker 3: great guy.
Speaker 2: And she realized I did say that i'd met him
Speaker 2: and he was a really nice guy back in the day,
Speaker 2: Like my experience with him was pleasant.
Speaker 1: But I was like, you know, right, but you didn't
Speaker 1: date him.
Speaker 2: Right, Uh, Well then okay, so that's I mean, there's
Speaker 2: more that we can we can go into another story
Speaker 2: if we want, because believe me, you're gonna have plenty
Speaker 2: of this. But if you guys hear this and don't
Speaker 2: want to join Patreon and want more, just tell us
Speaker 2: we'll get more into it again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, I mean we lighten things up a tiny
Speaker 3: bit and talk about Prince Harry, yes, your favorite. I
Speaker 3: was like, so out of the loop. I'm like, Prince
Speaker 3: Prince Charles. Don't we have like a Prince Charles story.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we could talk Prince Charles. It's funny,
Speaker 3: kind of funny that you said that because it kind
Speaker 3: of has something to do with Prince Charles. So you know, listen,
Speaker 3: Prince Harry and Megan, they gave it a shot. They
Speaker 3: were like, fuck this shit.
Speaker 1: You know, that's the cut of It's.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of people that are like they break
Speaker 2: up with someone and you're like I always fucking hated her,
Speaker 2: and they're like, well we're married now we got back together.
Speaker 1: So like they made a big to do.
Speaker 2: He writes the book Spare you know, right, and really
Speaker 2: drags his family in every possible way, like going after
Speaker 2: his brother's hairline, which somehow really struck me.
Speaker 1: I hated that he did that. I fucking hated it.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Why am I cursing so much?
Speaker 1: Do you think it's the ketamine?
Speaker 2: I do, yeah, because you you kind of got a
Speaker 2: wild hair after we recorded that episode, and you were like,
Speaker 2: I think I'm being too harsh on ketamine recreationally speaking.
Speaker 1: Let me get back to you after a weekend. And
Speaker 1: then you didn't hear from me from a weekend for
Speaker 1: the weekend. Yeah, no ketamine.
Speaker 2: And now I'm just cursing up a storm, like almost
Speaker 2: like almost like the spirit of another like a pirate
Speaker 2: or something. When I opened the portal, something jumped in.
Speaker 2: I think, are you wearing an eyepatch right now? For
Speaker 2: no re just spiritually? Is that what they say?
Speaker 1: I know that's not right.
Speaker 3: Well, you've always you've always wanted to really take part
Speaker 3: in talcolic a pirate day, and.
Speaker 2: You know, I always found it like a little cringe.
Speaker 2: But now you know, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Try to I can't even remember what I like, what
Speaker 1: the pirate?
Speaker 2: What does a pirate say?
Speaker 1: And you're like, r it is it?
Speaker 2: R ur.
Speaker 1: R? You never know?
Speaker 2: Okay, I did not know that he was making fun
Speaker 2: of his hairline. That is pretty he was like he
Speaker 2: was mad.
Speaker 1: In his bald head and his receding hairline was blowing.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that was his his ghostwriter wrote that, but
Speaker 2: you know it was shitty carry right, So whatever they were,
Speaker 2: they dropped the mic real hard and then set the
Speaker 2: mic on fire. And we're going to California to fucking rule, right,
Speaker 2: But they didn't rule.
Speaker 1: Nothing went well. They have money, so.
Speaker 2: They like they bought this place in near Oprah, you know,
Speaker 2: like they were trying to She was trying to start
Speaker 2: a lifestyle brand and it just crashed.
Speaker 1: It was the cringiest as we all know a thing
Speaker 1: that's ever happened.
Speaker 3: I mean, one of my favorite. It was so weird
Speaker 3: because I don't really know much about these people. But
Speaker 3: when we started doing episodes about her, her getting interviewed Meryl.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the woman when.
Speaker 2: You make a jams she was worse than they were both.
Speaker 2: She has all these like siccaphans around that's her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but she was like but she was being like
Speaker 3: that too. Remember she was being lady. She was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: She's like, it's bespoke. I make up bespoke jam.
Speaker 2: She's like, and jam for me is like you know,
Speaker 2: it's about the berries that have to be fresh. But
Speaker 2: also you know the attitude like how are you feeling
Speaker 2: that day when you make the jam and then the
Speaker 2: other the lady her friend or whatever, it's like, yes, yes, yes, it.
Speaker 1: Was horrendously yes, it was almost like you can't possibly
Speaker 1: it was a stout. They became a joke.
Speaker 2: The UK is calling now now they're like, oh, that's
Speaker 2: so great. The whole place that was the turn that
Speaker 2: didn't treat her right, okay whatever, which probably some of
Speaker 2: that's true.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there is a.
Speaker 2: Lot of racism in the royal royalist world against you know,
Speaker 2: this woman, you know, of course, but she also like
Speaker 2: kind of she shaded Kate, you know all that she
Speaker 2: just now they want to go back. So it says
Speaker 2: that Prince Harry's UK move is quote driven by the
Speaker 2: desire to get closer to King Charles, which is his dad.
Speaker 1: That makes me kind of that's kind of sweet if
Speaker 1: that's true.
Speaker 2: If true, I wish he hadn't gone off on him right,
Speaker 2: because remember you and I got in a little tiff
Speaker 2: because I was, like I said, he does not get
Speaker 2: to keep his detail, his security. You leave the UK,
Speaker 2: you give it all up. You've left the Royals and
Speaker 2: now you're here, and you're like, I think he should
Speaker 2: have it. I still maintain he shouldn't. When he goes back,
Speaker 2: he guess he has to have it now he's joining
Speaker 2: the family. But it says their decision to return to
Speaker 2: Britain with their children mate and I get they have kids,
Speaker 2: probably better easier to raise them there have been driven
Speaker 2: partly by a determination to repair the relationship with King Charles,
Speaker 2: according to a formal royal butler. This is from Female First.
Speaker 2: It emerged last week that Harry and Meghan are prepping
Speaker 2: to relocate from California to Britain in a matter of
Speaker 2: weeks with their kids. Prince Archie, I love that he's
Speaker 2: a prince and Princess Lila Bette. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 2: at some point, do you really even want to call
Speaker 2: your kids that way?
Speaker 1: And why are you keeping that? If you left the
Speaker 1: royal family, why are they still prince and princess?
Speaker 2: Because she was all about that, She's like fucking the countess, right,
Speaker 2: She's like Countess Luayan. I mean she's probably like, please bow,
Speaker 2: you do still have to bow. I know we did
Speaker 2: leave the family and made a big to do about that,
Speaker 2: but you do need to bow the curtsy the proper way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally see that.
Speaker 2: The family will reportedly live in a private non Royal
Speaker 2: residents so they're not going back to the castle outside
Speaker 2: of London, while retaining their homes in California and Portugal
Speaker 2: and are said to be not returning as working members
Speaker 2: of the royal family. I appreciate that their former royal butler,
Speaker 2: he's only forty eight, but I gotta find him.
Speaker 1: Coming for you, Grant.
Speaker 2: He's now told us Weekly imagine King Charles has played
Speaker 2: a part in the decision, and Harry wanting to spend
Speaker 2: more time with his uh and so yeah, and we say.
Speaker 3: But we think that this is all bullshit. It didn't
Speaker 3: their their business. We keep hearing about their failing business,
Speaker 3: and like.
Speaker 2: Everything failed, right, everything the documentary they tried to make,
Speaker 2: they were doing, they had all these little things and
Speaker 2: it all just wasn't testing well.
Speaker 3: It kind of does feel though, I mean, as somebody
Speaker 3: who does not follow this again, but it sort of
Speaker 3: does feel like they put this, they brought this on
Speaker 3: themselves for being insufferable.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, Grant, this royal butler said, I think
Speaker 2: the King will be concerned about William's reaction. So that's
Speaker 2: kind of interesting because I would think so too. William's
Speaker 2: probably very conflicted, Like, hey, bro, glad to have you back,
Speaker 2: but like fuck off, right, I don't know what their
Speaker 2: relationship is.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's great.
Speaker 2: They They remind us that Henry discussed the fractured relationship
Speaker 2: with William extensively in the best selling twenty twenty three
Speaker 2: memoirs Spare, including his claim that an argument between the
Speaker 2: brothers became physical.
Speaker 1: That's when he was like making fun of him, going bald,
Speaker 1: not nice. I mean, he could come write a book
Speaker 1: about how you know your wiry hair?
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So wait, they're saying that they had their um an
Speaker 3: argument turned physical after the book.
Speaker 2: Came out, no before, it's written about in the book. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: I mean to me, that's a little bit like kind
Speaker 2: of pussy kind of pussy to I mean, like brothers
Speaker 2: fight Gary, yeah, yeah, and then but it's also in
Speaker 2: English Royal, so it's very like he put his hands
Speaker 2: on me in a way.
Speaker 1: That I felt very uncomfortable, right, write a book about.
Speaker 2: It, Like, I mean, yeah, you're right, American dudes, you know,
Speaker 2: they're just like American brothers.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine you'd have to write a book about
Speaker 3: because you've got in a fight with your brother.
Speaker 2: Yah. Yeah, And one time he kicked a soccer ball
Speaker 2: at my head and I was really fucked up about
Speaker 2: it for a really long time.
Speaker 1: It's like, that's just Waco.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: First of all, it was whiffleball. That's a It was
Speaker 1: not a soccer ball, and.
Speaker 2: It was nerf the nerf wiffle you know, like, calm down,
Speaker 2: But you're right about that. And so they want to
Speaker 2: say according to the butler, he says, it will be
Speaker 2: a situation where actions mean more than words. William will
Speaker 2: need to see that. Harry continuously makes an effort to
Speaker 2: heal the rift. But right now I don't see things healing.
Speaker 2: That's the butler. The butlers love to talk, and by butler,
Speaker 2: I do think it's like the PR team. They just
Speaker 2: pretend like it's the but they put it out they're
Speaker 2: very good. The Royals are very good about their PR campaigns. Yeah,
Speaker 2: sounds like it.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's that story.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: We got we're doing great.
Speaker 2: We also okay, we will.
Speaker 3: It's it's a little bit dark, but I feel like
Speaker 3: we do need to give a little update about Perez Hilton.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for we know, I mean we don't like Okay,
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. So the latest story is that Perez Hilton.
Speaker 3: So he he's obviously not like strapped to a gurney
Speaker 3: because he gets to see his kids under supervision.
Speaker 2: The article says Prez Hilton will be able to see
Speaker 2: his kids while his mother has temporary custody, so meaning
Speaker 2: Perez Hilton's mother not the mother of the children. Well,
Speaker 2: we don't even know how different. I don't think it
Speaker 2: was all the same. Yeah, right, but only if certain
Speaker 2: conditions are met. New court docs obtained by TMZ show
Speaker 2: a judge granted Perez visitation with his three children, but
Speaker 2: it must be supervised by either a family member agreed
Speaker 2: upon by both sides, or a therapist. There's another condition,
Speaker 2: which is that Perez must first obtain psychiatric clearance, and
Speaker 2: the supervised arrangement stays in place until the court orders
Speaker 2: otherwise or Perez and his mom agree to something different.
Speaker 2: So they also officially granted his mom Terasita Teresita, a
Speaker 2: temporary legal custody of the kids. The order notes Perez
Speaker 2: is their only legal parent and consented to the arrangement,
Speaker 2: so she has authority over the kids medical care, school enrollment,
Speaker 2: and other decisions necessary for their care. And she filed
Speaker 2: for temporary custody after he was hospitalized, and then they
Speaker 2: go back into the custody case itself is now sealed,
Speaker 2: with the judge finding confidentiality was necessary to protect the children. Yeah,
Speaker 2: these kids need to be protected at all costs. Yeah, forever.
Speaker 2: I mean, oh my god, Like, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm glad the mom is stepping in. I don't know
Speaker 2: that he should ever have full custody at this point.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is I don't know.
Speaker 3: So it's just basically saying that he won't be completely
Speaker 3: cut off from his kids when he comes home.
Speaker 2: So I think it was a.
Speaker 3: Little misleading because when you when the article says he's
Speaker 3: granted supervised visitation, it makes you feel like he's been
Speaker 3: seeing his kids. That is not the case, right, not
Speaker 3: seeing anybody, well, no kids, And when he comes home,
Speaker 3: he'll get visitation with the kids, but they will not
Speaker 3: be under his care, which I think is definitely for
Speaker 3: the best.
Speaker 2: On of course, I mean, what happened is so crazy
Speaker 2: that like it only happened a few weeks ago, and
Speaker 2: it's sort of like kind of out of our It
Speaker 2: barely even made news news. I mean, it was on
Speaker 2: the news for like a day, and I guess how
Speaker 2: much are they gonna want to torture people with that?
Speaker 2: But like it was so insane, like what it was,
Speaker 2: so it was so insane that even people had to say, like, look,
Speaker 2: pres may have terrorized people for a long time, but
Speaker 2: no one deserves that. No nobody deserves whatever he's going through.
Speaker 2: No one deserves to see it either, you know, no,
Speaker 2: so of course, but yeah, and we just we have
Speaker 2: to protect the kids. Yeah, I mean obviously, okay, what
Speaker 2: about Rosie and I have another Well, okay, where are we?
Speaker 2: How are we? We're good? We can do we can
Speaker 2: do this rosy story. And then okay, okay, let's all right, Okay,
Speaker 2: I just think this is not even a big story.
Speaker 2: It's just yeah, yeah, but it's it's not.
Speaker 3: It's one of these things that seems like a fun feud,
Speaker 3: but it's really not. It's Kathy Griffin being thirsty, which
Speaker 3: you know, we love Kathy Griffin.
Speaker 2: She is also thirsty. Two things can be true. I
Speaker 2: don't know that I love her. I like her, I
Speaker 2: don't love her.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, she she will throw anybody under the bus.
Speaker 2: She loves to act like she's spilling tea on her
Speaker 2: YouTube show.
Speaker 3: I've watched a couple of full episodes of it because
Speaker 3: one of them I was really interested in her, which
Speaker 3: was good, and I recounted it.
Speaker 2: I recounted it to you. It was her fight with Brookshields.
Speaker 3: It was her talking about the fact that Brooke Shields
Speaker 3: won't really talk to her and why. And when you
Speaker 3: listen to the whole episode, you're like, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2: I totally get by Brookshields. But Kathy's perspective on it,
Speaker 2: I'll just remind you so fast. Her perspective was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I feel so bad, Like I just
Speaker 2: I've apologized to Brook a million times, like I understand why.
Speaker 2: I kind of understand why she's mad.
Speaker 3: But the reason being was that she talked to At
Speaker 3: Brooke Shields's wedding, Brooke Shields did not want her mom
Speaker 3: to come to her wedding, but then she was like,
Speaker 3: she decided to allow her mom to come, but she said,
Speaker 3: you have to have been sober for like thirty days
Speaker 3: before you come. You can't drink at the wedding right,
Speaker 3: and then she I'm trying to remember exactly how this
Speaker 3: went down, it doesn't really matter, but basically, the mom
Speaker 3: got drunk and acted a fool and Brooke was really
Speaker 3: upset about it, and Kathy wanted to tell the story
Speaker 3: somewhere and Brooke was like, hmm, I don't really know
Speaker 3: how I feel about it. And then Kathy did a
Speaker 3: comedy special and told the story, didn't even tell it right, and.
Speaker 2: Brooke was upset. And then Kathy's attitude was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, but like I'm a comedian, Like what do
Speaker 2: you expect You can't you can't expect like a comedian
Speaker 2: to not tell a story mm hmm. And I think
Speaker 2: Brooke was like, not in your fucking special. I think
Speaker 2: you know anyway. So this basically is that Rosie O'Donnell
Speaker 2: responds to Kathy Griffin being really hurt about not being
Speaker 2: invited on Jimmy Kimmel Live. So this is Kathy and
Speaker 2: out of a mole hill. Okay, go ahead, wait wait,
Speaker 2: wait wait, because people don't know that that Rosie.
Speaker 1: Some people don't know she took over for the week,
Speaker 1: like ye, Jimmy one.
Speaker 2: Week yeah, and he was inviting purposely people just like
Speaker 2: fuck with Trump, which I thought was genius right personally,
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Rosie is like one of Trump's like
Speaker 2: biggest nemesy nemesy nemesisssi. I love that choice, love the choice,
Speaker 2: love it, love it, love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rosie, Sorry, I don't get a dicle often. I
Speaker 1: think that that's fun.
Speaker 2: So yes, So she was having people she kind of
Speaker 2: got to sort of help decide who was going to
Speaker 2: come on the show.
Speaker 1: Yes, and Kathy wasn't one of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but it turns out it wasn't really a
Speaker 3: big thing on purpose. She wasn't booking all the guests,
Speaker 3: Like it's a weird thing to act like Rosie O'Donnell,
Speaker 3: who guest hosts for a week, has a lot to
Speaker 3: fucking do you know she's not doing the booking.
Speaker 2: There's a booker for the show, right. It has Also,
Speaker 2: even if she was like, Kathy is not that high
Speaker 2: on the list, no one would even think that it
Speaker 2: would be her. Why nobody wants to see her and
Speaker 2: they're not best friends.
Speaker 3: It's not like they were talking every day and she
Speaker 3: was like, I'd love to be on the show.
Speaker 2: That's just not how it went down. Okay, it was
Speaker 2: Kathy kidding when she was saying, she's sort of just
Speaker 2: being like when you have me on like kind of
Speaker 2: like that jokingly sort of.
Speaker 3: I think she did a whole YouTube tube episode about
Speaker 3: not being invited.
Speaker 2: She was genuinely upset. Up we have sound up?
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't, but I'll read you the article. So basically,
Speaker 3: Rosie is responding to Kathy Griffin's remarks that she was
Speaker 3: hurt o'donald didn't invite her on Jimmy Kimmel Alive.
Speaker 2: So it says o'donald, who's currently serving as guest host
Speaker 2: in Kimmel's stead, commented on Griffin's Instagram post, Okay, here,
Speaker 2: I'll let me see. Let me click on the Instagram
Speaker 2: post and I'll see if I have sound up. Hold on,
Speaker 2: It's okay, here we go.
Speaker 4: It's embarrassing to say, but I have. I'm just going
Speaker 4: to come out and say it. Are you ready? It's
Speaker 4: embarrassing to say, but I have to tell you guys,
Speaker 4: because we're friends. My feelings are really hurt that I
Speaker 4: was not invited to go on Rosie's Week of the
Speaker 4: Jimmy Kimmel Show, and I thought, well, she's the guest host.
Speaker 4: She may have no say in it. And to this day,
Speaker 4: I don't know if she has any say in it.
Speaker 4: As far as I know, she cood or could not.
Speaker 4: I really how would I know? Right, I started getting
Speaker 4: more correspondence and just friends calling me that know me
Speaker 4: and know the two of us to be friends, et cetera,
Speaker 4: and saying like which night are you doing and are
Speaker 4: you going to be a surprise and are you guys
Speaker 4: doing a sketch or just to sit down interview, And
Speaker 4: you know, I admit I was kind of getting excited, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: this could be a really cool moment. Then that moment
Speaker 4: passed and kept passing. She's doing a great job and
Speaker 4: we'll continue to. If I have one call to action,
Speaker 4: it's that you guys watch the show and support her.
Speaker 4: I just think it's a tricky situation because I'm having
Speaker 4: all kinds of the feels. I will watch every night
Speaker 4: and cheer her on. Of course, I'm just going to
Speaker 4: come out and say, are you ready? It's embrasing.
Speaker 2: It started out, Yeah, what the fuck are you?
Speaker 1: That's crazy to me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she she lists it. You know, when you
Speaker 2: do a caption.
Speaker 3: So she does the video and her caption is my
Speaker 3: heart is on my sleeve on this week's episode of
Speaker 3: Kathy Griffin talk your head off out now on my YouTube.
Speaker 2: So's she's serious, she is out to lunch. I mean
Speaker 2: that is like she's always that. That's her thing, is
Speaker 2: self promotion. That's her whole joke, right, you know, d
Speaker 2: List going showing up everywhere. So I mean that's just
Speaker 2: her doing that, I guess, and like if enough people
Speaker 2: now I'm saying it, So now Rosie's gonna get a
Speaker 2: lot of conversation where it'll be a fun little bit
Speaker 2: that I you know, that's what she's doing, but of
Speaker 2: course lasting that's that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So basically Rosie responded and just said Kathy should
Speaker 3: have called me, honey, I didn't choose the guests.
Speaker 2: I am loving Rosie's glow up so much. Can I
Speaker 2: please stress that again? I said it before, but my god,
Speaker 2: she looks good. And I also want to say I
Speaker 2: know two people that have worked with her.
Speaker 1: Over the years. Mixed results on that one, but that's okay.
Speaker 2: They say that she can be the most charming, wonderful
Speaker 2: person you've ever met in your life and then kind
Speaker 2: of a nightmare. And I have a friend who worked
Speaker 2: for both Rosie and Ellen, which I've mentioned, and I
Speaker 2: was like, which would you choose though, because would you
Speaker 2: have someone who's just cold all the time or just
Speaker 2: sometimes a nightmare? And he's like, oh it, cho's Rosie
Speaker 2: at a heartbeat. So as awful as Rosie could be, right,
Speaker 2: Ellen was worse? Oh yeah, oh yeah, but Rosie does
Speaker 2: have like big explosions where sometimes you didn't even know why.
Speaker 1: You know, just big big feelings. Yeah, feelings.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what I think would be a good
Speaker 2: thing to do for our Monday show, because it's our
Speaker 2: big show. I think we should say hi to our
Speaker 2: friends and I'm going to put them on the zoom
Speaker 2: for you right now so you can see them, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna try to do it by memory. Let me see
Speaker 1: if I can do that.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, he's he's our business sponsor. So far not good.
Speaker 2: I'm okay, let me do it my memory, John Lee,
Speaker 2: Kathy Callman, Am I right, Sarah Baker, Jane McMurray, This
Speaker 2: is all from memory?
Speaker 1: And yar bro I mean, Sherry Shannon, You're good, No,
Speaker 1: you're doing really good so much. Let me think, hold on,
Speaker 1: let me use my psychic. Paul. I'm getting Paul Paul
Speaker 1: Sully Sullivan.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Uh do you have any psychic do you?
Speaker 2: I know we don't have it up yet, but and
Speaker 2: he come to you just came to me. Uh.
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