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joined the telegram, call into the show. Oh, I haven't

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done a call in show in a minute. I haven't

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really been plugging it all that much. But I think

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correctly for seven six Yeah, four zero seven four seven

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six four six zero six. Call in, let us know

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what you think about this episode. Call me to tell

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me I'm gay or a shill or something whatever. Who cares?

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But joining us today is the one, the only shill

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Master himself, the paranoid American, the gayest of the gays.

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What's up, dude?

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Speaker 3: I made you say that. You probably don't even realize that,

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but I implanted shill Master into your head, did you

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I did? Yeah? I was. I was saying it quietly

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before we started, and you said it. So it worked.

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Speaker 2: Oh I fell for your trap.

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Speaker 3: Dude.

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Speaker 2: You've hitting yu gi oh trap card. So before we

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get into it, dude, where can people find your work,

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your podcast, your YouTube channel, anything you want to plug?

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Speaker 3: Just go to Paranoid American dot com We got comics

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and toys and stickers and all that stuff, and I

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got a podcast. So I guess if you're listening to podcasts,

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just search for Paranoid American and it'll come up right on.

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Speaker 2: And for those listening right now on the RSS feed

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or I'm probably gonna do like a little intro on

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YouTube for this, but this will more than likely ninety

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nine point eight percent chance will not make it on

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YouTube because of what we're going to be talking about today.

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We're gonna be talking about adrenochrome, so I might have

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to even censor that for the intro for the YouTube.

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check out the link if you want to watch the video,

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because Thomas is going to be doing a presentation and

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he's also gonna be snorting adrenochrome live for us today.

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Speaker 3: Now that's for my on your show. Well you cut

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out there, dude, I'm doing that on my Patreon. I'm

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, you shill all right. Anyways, if you want

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to watch this video, it's probably not going to be

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on YouTube. It's going to be on Rumble, So go

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check it out on there. And again welcome. So where

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do you want to begin, Thomas, because this is a

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topic that I remember I called you. I don't know

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what I had called you for, and I was asking.

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I was like, so what is in the actual cause?

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and search adrenochrome and you can buy some of it

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on there, right, Like, that's the whole thing.

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hold of real pure adrenochrome, reach out to me. I

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Speaker 2: So let's see here we go here, let's go shopping.

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anyone's ever sent me here. The main issue you run

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of a hippocratic oath that says, you know, do no harm.

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on a live stream, that might put their job in jeopardy.

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to real adrenochrome, I'm here for it. I will do it.

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why because it's a control Is it a controlled substance

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of sort? Is it on some sort of Am I

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going to be on a list now for googling this stuff?

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Speaker 3: Or what I mean? Those two things don't have to

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you don't necessarily need LAB credentials. Is just the only

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those kind of credentials. It sorts out the riff raff,

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I think, but I've got confirmation. And that also doesn't

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state to the laws very single state. It's very possible

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that there are other states out there that explicitly list

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adrenochrome as being some kind of a banned substance. But

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me on Twitter. I had a post that went viral,

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got like fifteen million views, and there was, you know,

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a self proclaimed scientist, big NASA shill, and he said, well, hey,

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you know, put up or shut up, I can get

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you adrenochrome. So then I was like, oh man, what happened?

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Speaker 2: Wait what you asked for in that post? Were you

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because I think I did see it, but were you

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asking people for it.

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Speaker 3: No, definitely not. Someone was just trying to make that point. Look,

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any any idiot can just order it online. Whyn't you

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just do it? So then I had to like put

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all my toys down and explain it very slowly to

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this you know scientist too, know that semi carbazochrome. And

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even if you do send me the link, I've called

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those companies, I've wrote them, the emails I've done, I've

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jumped through all the hoops, and then it always ends

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up with that lab credentials. Well, I've got lab credentials.

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you know, a cop shows up and we're in the

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parking lot of a Walmart and he's handing a drenochrome

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over to me and I'm giving him money, does anyone

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go to jail? And if so, for how long? And

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what laws have we broke in? And can I own

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firearms anymore? Like these are real questions that were going

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through my head. So I tracked all of that down.

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And it's legal, it's legal to possess, it's legal to use.

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It's just not a very known drug. And I'm sure if,

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like say, I popularized it by doing a live stream

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when I was like, well this works. Now everyone's trying

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to get it. Uh, maybe that could spur legislation, because

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it turns out most of the time they don't like

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people having fun with chemicals.

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Speaker 2: All right, So for those that haven't heard of adrenal chrome,

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let's talk about what it actually is from a chemical stace.

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So here we have the the uh, you know, apart

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from the conspiracies. Then we can get into the conspiracy stuff.

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it is from a from a chemical standpoint, Not the hey,

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it and then drink the drift.

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Speaker 3: That's different. That's a that's an extraction process allegedly. So

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the chemical of adrenochrome, it's as simple as this. If

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of those EpiPens that people get for anaphylactic shock or

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beast things or you know, oversies or whatever. This is

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if you let it sit for a really long time,

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it'll degrade. It'll oxidize and that adrenaline will start to

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decompose and turn into adrenochrome. And you can tell if

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adrenaline because of this effect with the epipen's expiring and

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basic form, adrenochrome is simply adrenaline that has decomposed, usually

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turns into this pink and then a red, and then

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Speaker 2: Okay, and I'm seeing here what you were talking about.

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Speaker 3: And that's what that little window is for on EpiPens.

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goes anywhere other than clear, you're supposed to just throw

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it out. Now, the reports that were coming in was

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in mass, at least in such a consistent way that

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eventually just regular pattern recognition, they realized, oh, when these

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EpiPens start to go bad, these soldiers report seeing and

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hearing things. It was fairly mild, it went away pretty quickly,

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and they still got some of the adrenaline they needed

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in the EpiPen, so it was really like, leave those

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don't know when the next batch of EpiPens are coming in,

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you're taking those pink adrenaline shots because you still need

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the leftover epinephrin that's still in them. So this is

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where a lot of it sort of started, and it

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dovetails into mkulture research. But let me let me stop

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there before we get too crazy.

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Speaker 2: WHOA Okay, So an EpiPen is adrenaline, So it's you

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take it, and then there's people taking it during wars

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Speaker 3: To keep no. No, Typically it's going to be for

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injection of epinephrine, you're no longer relying on your body's

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endocrine system to generate a massive amount of adrenaline. It's

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just immediately in your system, ready to go right off

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the bat. So I mean that the possibilities are somewhat

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endless for what you'd use it for. I don't think

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it's a known or advocated purpose to like, let's just

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get jacked, let's go, let's rush into the battlefield and

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come on, guys, everyone hate your EpiPens. It's usually more

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of a preventative or like a reactionary use of you

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got stung by a bunch of bees or ants or

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something again, like an anaphalactic shock kind of deal, I believe.

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Speaker 2: And where do they get the adrenaline from these EpiPen

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Do they create it or do they harvest it from people? So,

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from what I understand, because I'm gonna be clear, do

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I know nothing other than the baseline. And this is

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why I find it so interesting, because I know nothing

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other than the baseline stuff of Hey, they don't deal

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with the regular people. They only deal with the elites

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and other accredited labs that are using this stuff, and

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that's why you're only able to get it between a

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select few people. Right. So that's the only thing that

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I know of the frazzle drip, which you said is

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an extraction process, and the whole conspiracy video of Hillary

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Clinton with what's her name, Uma something or.

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Speaker 3: Other, Humah Aberdeen, Huma Abedin.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't she married to Wiener?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? She was?

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Speaker 2: That See that connection there is weird to me.

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Speaker 3: And that's where the frazzle drip comes from, because allegedly

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it was a folder on his hard drive inside of

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another folder called Life Insurance and there was a file

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called frazzled dot rip on it, or you could read

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it across as frazzle drip. That's the rumor. The rumor

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was that it was found on one of Wiener's laptops

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and it had a picture of Huma and Hillary taking

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some girl's face off, and I guess allegedly using that

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process to extract the drip a lot of I mean,

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it was like a really dark footage. Apparently it's lost

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forever now even though it's a freaking video and nothing

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that really gets lost, but it's just like a slender

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Man level conspiracy theory folklore at this point, but that's

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that's where it comes from. And yeah, it's all related.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like a creepy pasta lost footage type of thing.

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And I love the people who go around online talking

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about that they've seen it, like oh, I've seen I

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remember seeing this back and blah blah blah. It's like, oh,

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so you're admitting to what because wasn't it like a

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kid that they were doing that too? Wasn't like yeah,

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but I don't I see, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't see it, and I've only heard like the

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stories of people that have seen it, and I don't

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believe it was anything overtly sexual. I think it was

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just straight up ripping some kid's face off, which I mean,

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if you want to classify this pornography, that's out you

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than anybody.

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Speaker 2: At least child abuse, right right, Yeah, I guess. I

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mean if I was, you know, if somebody was to

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rip their kids' face off, I would at least want

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them put in jail for the rest of their lives

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for child abuse and maybe perhaps murder. But and then

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the whole connection with Wiener and that allegedly the New

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York I think the the head guy there, didn't he

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kill himself? And also when they talking about how heinous

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it was what they found on that laptop that it

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made him like physically throw up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that. Where again, we're getting into like

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Tim Ballard QAnon level of claims here as to you know,

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the specifics of why someone would exit stage left early, uh,

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and what they might have seen on this video. Now

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we're almost talking about the ring right, like it's a

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video and seven days later, you know you will die

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almost like a vital destination, Like what can you just

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show this video to someone and they turned maybe, But

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but before we get too much on a tangent on

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the weird Frazzle Drip video and what might may or

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may not have been on it. It's a common claim

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that comes up in this adrenochrome conspiracy realm that you

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somehow have to torture someone specifically like a young kid.

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Kid is all right, let's just see what Snope says.

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I don't. I can't rest it until I see what

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Snope says.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we can just shut this episode down right, Thank

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you guys for tuning in, and this time, yes, this

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is over. Fact check dot Org no evidence of horrific

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Clinton video. This was twenty eighteen, So I don't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I you know me well enough that I'm

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probably more of a shill skeptic than most people from

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the hip, which is why I think my research on

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adrenochrome is more important than many other people. I'll just

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say it out loud, because I do come from an

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absolute skeptic standpoint. So so let me and you care

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about the truth with a capital T, correct, Yeah, the

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one that you have to pay money for in Patreon.

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But that's the one that I care about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you're listening to this, then you know

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anyone listening right now cares about the truth, the real truth.

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We got the capital T. Yeah, with the capital team

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not with mine.

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Speaker 3: Actually has two capital t's in it, the first one

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and the one at the end, so it's it's double

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it's double capital T truth.

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Speaker 2: Here you go, pull over screen.

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Speaker 3: So so let me let me finish on the note

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on this frazzle drip thing. The claim is that you

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got a torture a young kid and that somehow their

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body produces either more adrenochrome, which doesn't make sense, or

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it's more potent, which also doesn't make sense. So let

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me let me just NodD those two claims. A to

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produce more the size of a child's adrenaline glands that

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are on the top of your kidneys. Interestingly enough, one

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is a shape of a pyramid, the other one's a

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crescent moon. But these, yeah, that's actually true.

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Speaker 2: That's the shape of what. Let me look that up.

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Shape of you have.

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Speaker 3: You have two adrenal glands. One is on top of

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each kidney. On one of your kidneys, your adrenal gland

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has a pyramid shape, and on the other kidney that

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the adrenal gland looks like a crescent moon. This has

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been knowns for since the Middle Ages, since they started

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picking people apart and looking for this stuff. I just

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learned that now, So so that that is fascinating in

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my mind. You've got a pyramid and a crescent moon

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that regulates part of your endocrine system for generating adrenaline

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and therefore a dream of But here's one of the

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problems with that claim about harvesting it from kids is

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that it is incredibly inefficient. So here here's an analogy

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though that I like to bring up, is that you

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can go to a fancy restaurant where you spend two

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thousand dollars and they just give you these little amuse

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bouche entries. Right, they fit the entire meal on one

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spoon bite and you eat that bite, and you get

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like six of them, and you spend like a thousand

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or two thousand dollars. That's not efficient. You're not gonna

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keep yourself and your family fed on that. If the

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kids are clamoring because they just got home from soccer practice,

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you're not gonna be like, all right, everyone, load up,

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we're gonna spend one thousand dollars each on a moose boosh.

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But that doesn't mean that people don't sit down and

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go to these boutique restaurants and have these world class

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Michelin chefs prepare them weird esoteric meals that you know

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afterwards they still need to go and get like a

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pizza or something because they're not full from it that,

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but they still do that. So, yeah, it's absolutely possible

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there's someone out there harvesting adrenaline, specifically from kids, the

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same way that you would go to a high end

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restaurant or something like an invite only reservation, but at

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a massive scale, there's really no reason that you would

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want to do that, and you don't need them to

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be alive. There's no real claim of potency, mainly because

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adrenochrome is a isolated chemical, so there's it's not like

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weed or like tobacco or alcohol where there's like a proof, right,

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if you can get pure alcohol just straight like you

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get ethanol alcohol, right, that's a very specific kind of

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a chemical substance, and you can get like ninety nine

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percent pre or eighty nine percent here, depending on what

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you need it for exactly. But a drenochrome, if you're

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talking about it in chemical terms, it's just a substance

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no different than ethyl ethynyl alcohol. Or someone's not going

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to be like how potent is your ethynyol alcohol wealth

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where we both are operating with ninety percent alcohol, then

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it's the exact same sort of substance. There's no difference

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in potency between that. So I don't think there's any

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real claim to fear or childhood or anything would have

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to do with a potency. And then finally, where do

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they actually get it from. We already have a widespread

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sort of like livestock factory supply chain that's already established

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and cows have much larger adrenal glands than people. In fact,

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compared to the ratio of all other animals, cows still

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have some of the biggest ones. So in the early

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nineteen hundreds to nineteen thirties, pretty much all of the

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adrenaline and adrenochrome was pretty much coming from animals that

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were already being experimented on. So this would been cows, pigs, rabbits, technically,

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anything with an adrenal gland you can get adrenaline from

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and therefore adrenochrome. Fish, lizards, babies with their faces torn

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off like, these are all potential sources, but they're very

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inefficient sources.

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Speaker 2: So this would this would make sense as to why

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the whole cow abduction phenomenon is right where they go

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and they mutilate these cows, but usually they don't. Are

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they some are missing organs? Right they touch?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess, But you wouldn't need to abduct

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a cow because cows are already part of this massive

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sort of like meat packing processing industry we've got in

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this country. And I don't think that there's a lot

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of chefs out there that are like, give me your

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finest adrenal glands. They go perfect with this meal. It's

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basically something that would have no other known use except

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for industry research. So, and I'm talking nineteen hundreds, nineteen

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thirties now today in twenty twenty five, you can technically

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derive adrenaline and a drenochrome by proxy through petrochemicals, meaning

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you can take petroleum, you can take rude oil, and

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through a series of different chemical steps you could in

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theory and provably, there's research that already shows that they've

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created epinephrine from petrochemicals. So at that point you can

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even have yourself some vegan adrenochrome.

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Speaker 2: Whoa dude, that that's pretty well. So you would say,

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aside from a cow, what is the most efficient animal

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or thing to use for adrenochrome? How about a whale?

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Has anyone ever done a whale? That's a huge animal.

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Speaker 3: It's possible. I just again, like the the amount of

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effort it would take to go and hunt down a

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whale and then extract the whales adrenal glands and then

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process them. You'd probably still have way more luck with

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just our existing factory farming output, right.

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Speaker 2: Adrenal, So yeah, I'm looking for an adrenal gland of

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a humpback whale. That'd be crazy. You think this is

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what Croley was pointing at with this. It looks like

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his little hat that he wears.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's not actually a hat. This this is

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also a fun fact that that's a robe. It's just

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the way that he's wearing the top of his robe

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and it has the emblem on it. Everyone thinks that

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it's this pyramid hat. It's not. It's a freaking Filama robe,

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you know, because you have one, right, I mean, I've

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got some custom made yes, nice?

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay. So is this perhaps why the petroleum industry

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is so big because we have guys right like John D.

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Rockefeller who were at the forefront of pushing this industry

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that at one point was or is still. I mean,

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we use petroleum in all and pretty much all products

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till this day.

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Speaker 3: Bro Well, the claim here isn't that petroleum was just

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a way to get to making adrenochrome. I think it's

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more of a case in point that a drenochrome does

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not need to be harvested from kids, let alone animals,

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and that almost anything we can't essentially synthesize from petrochemicals.

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Speaker 2: No, no, I get what you're saying that, but some

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people like it the good old fashioned way, dude, you

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know you know what I'm saying, Like they want I

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don't want to read my books on a tablet. I

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want to read my books physically.

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Speaker 3: Right, you want to pop a straw right into a

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baby's head and suck the adrenochrome right out like a

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caprice son.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that. Unfortunately, there are some people who are

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00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:32,559
probably into it. So do you believe in this hole?

471
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,599
Because this is a huge conspiracy, bro, This is like

472
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,839
a he one of the main ones that people really

473
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:45,240
get into, that the elites are running these pedophilia, child

474
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,880
molestation rings, whatever you want to call it, and that

475
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,920
part of the reason that they do that is to

476
00:26:50,079 --> 00:26:53,400
extract this adrenochrome. Stuff like this is the one of

477
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,920
the holy grails of conspiracies. And I want to just

478
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,440
peel apart the layers to why some people believe it.

479
00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:04,359
And there is some I'm not saying that they're do

480
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,240
you believe that they're doing it?

481
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,759
Speaker 3: I think that it's very reasonable to think they are

482
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,640
doing something like that, but I think it's unreasonable to

483
00:27:13,839 --> 00:27:16,880
think that the end product of that is because they're

484
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,359
looking for a drenochrome. Yeah, like all of those can

485
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,359
be true, but I don't think it would be the

486
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,000
same things like do you think that going out and

487
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,279
spending one thousand dollars on six spoonfuls of some master

488
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:32,680
is that because you were hungry? Money's not an issue, right,

489
00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:35,240
But it has nothing to do with your hunger. It

490
00:27:35,319 --> 00:27:37,000
has everything to do with you want to go through

491
00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:41,240
this exclusive experience that feels like you got to live

492
00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:43,519
through something that no one else ever has, or that

493
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,000
only a small number of people, or that somehow it's

494
00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:50,039
going to activate some taste buds that no other meal

495
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,279
has ever activated for you. It's all about expanding your

496
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,839
sort of life experience. So if the question is reframed

497
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,400
as do you think rich people and people that have,

498
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,720
you know, enormous amounts of political and financial capital, do

499
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:07,640
you think that they do extreme things with their money

500
00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:11,400
to test the limits of like their own life experience

501
00:28:11,559 --> 00:28:14,960
and and sort of like mentality. Yeah, of course people

502
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,519
do that. So it's no crazier than jump It's almost

503
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,200
like take a sip out of this straw in a

504
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,160
baby's head, or jump out of this airplane there's probably

505
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,240
some people that will be like, I'll go with the straw, like,

506
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,319
out of all things being equal, I'll take a little

507
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,279
sip instead of jumping out of a plane. Yet people

508
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,119
do both of those.

509
00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: You think this guy's taking a drenochrome.

510
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: I don't. Well, I think that that guy probably knows

511
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,880
about some of the research that went into this, specifically

512
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:48,559
something called the adrenochrome hypothesis, because al Albert Hoffman or

513
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:54,880
sorry Hoffner, Hoffner actually has a theory. Who is that

514
00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:58,880
that the closer he's he's the guy that Hoffner and

515
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,079
Smithy's are two of the names that put it two

516
00:29:01,119 --> 00:29:04,200
and two together as to pink adrenaline. Was this a

517
00:29:04,279 --> 00:29:08,240
drenochrome stuff? And they started testing a drenochrome specifically for

518
00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:12,119
the first time. We're gonna get into that on this adrenochrome.

519
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,039
That guy you're showing, he's probably aware of some of

520
00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:18,799
that work, because that work talks about how family lines

521
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,599
might have survived the bubonic plague and might have survived

522
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,359
all sorts of other nationwide pandemics, and that might be

523
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,799
related to a drenochrome in a very indirect way.

524
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: Sounds kind of racist and anti semitic in some sort

525
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:30,720
of way.

526
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, well as as all good conspiracy theories should be.

527
00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so whatever, who cares. This guy's a weirdo. He

528
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,000
looks fake, he looks like an AI generated character. And

529
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,279
I think he called his son like, he called him

530
00:29:46,319 --> 00:29:49,319
something weird because he takes his son's plasma. I think

531
00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:49,640
it was.

532
00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:53,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, you called him blood boys blood Yeah, oh man,

533
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,720
that's so bizarre, dude. There was an episode of the

534
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,119
show Silicon Valley by Mike jo the guy behind Beavis

535
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,640
and Buted, And this is almost a decade old now,

536
00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:08,480
but there was a feature like one of the seasons

537
00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:11,079
kind of focused on this guy, Gavin Belson, who is

538
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,240
I believe was supposed to kind of be like a

539
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,440
Bill Gates character that had a blood boy that would

540
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,440
follow him around he went. He went and found like

541
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,039
a seventeen year old quarterback at a high school, like

542
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,160
some kid that was, you know, getting all the records

543
00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:26,440
and would just pay him money to come over and

544
00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:29,240
just do blood transfusions while they were in and stuff.

545
00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:32,680
So this is not a new concept. This has been

546
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,319
around forever, and you can wind it up back to

547
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,920
like Elizabeth Bathory, which I think I do in this

548
00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:38,759
presentation that.

549
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: Like a lady that bathed in the blood.

550
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,279
Speaker 3: Of young girls and maids and everything else. So there

551
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,799
there's an interesting I guess the crux of this too,

552
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,759
is that I think the most rational way to look

553
00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:55,880
at a drenochrome. It's almost like a scientific substitute for

554
00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:59,519
blood libel, or for vampirism, or for cannibalism, all of

555
00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:03,839
the super natural elements that are associated usually with drinking

556
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,559
blood or bathing in blood or eating people. If you

557
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,400
were to remove all of the supernatural and like the

558
00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:13,039
religious connotations to that, you kind of have this chemical

559
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:16,799
adrenochrome that can still represent all of those things, but

560
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,160
without having to believe in ancient Sumerian magic or anything

561
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,359
supernatural at all.

562
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:26,319
Speaker 2: Actually, which, of course blood libel is right speaking of

563
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,599
anti semitic, this is very anti semitic, So be careful

564
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,799
what you say on this episode. Thomas.

565
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,359
Speaker 3: Well, I thought we're already just on rumble.

566
00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, oh you're right. Yeah, welcome.

567
00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:43,319
Speaker 3: So it's always, it's always to talk about blood libel

568
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,279
because that's going to be the crux of part of

569
00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:49,559
this presentation. So strap like strap in, buckle up, all right,

570
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,720
let's do it. Strap in strap on, So like this

571
00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:55,839
one is called what is adrenochrome? It was originally put

572
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,920
together for Bohemian Grove, although time constraints and tech strains,

573
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,519
it was limited to like a forty minute version. So

574
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,160
I'll be able to go in a little bit more

575
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:08,599
detail on this one, do it so? Okay? So here,

576
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:10,759
let me get rid of all the boring and the

577
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,759
like scientific stuff first, So if anyone wants to look

578
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,759
up anything that I'm talking about, I don't hide my sources.

579
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,119
I don't shoot from the hip. I've I got the

580
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,079
receipts for everything, even the things that I maybe say

581
00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:26,519
and quickly breeze over hit in the comments or whatever.

582
00:32:26,599 --> 00:32:28,839
I have got sources for every single claim made into this.

583
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,119
So nineteen twenty three there was a paper that was

584
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,559
published and they were talking about a deep color of

585
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,680
adrenaline based solutions left at room temperature for twenty four hours.

586
00:32:41,839 --> 00:32:45,319
And this is important that they concluded the more deeply

587
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,200
colored solutions were less active. In other words, adrenochrome breaks

588
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,799
down at room temperature. This is one of the reasons

589
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,200
why you can't just order it online and it shows

590
00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:58,440
up in the mail from China or Boston. Wherever the

591
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,519
hell you got it from it that salted version. I've

592
00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:04,480
got more on this, but it really needs to be aqueous.

593
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:07,720
It needs to be the second it goes from adrenaline,

594
00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:11,039
goes from clear to slightly pink, you need to have

595
00:33:11,319 --> 00:33:14,400
that store it at negative twenty degrees so that it

596
00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:18,319
no longer decomposes and it stays at that state. So

597
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,319
I'll explain more of that when we get into it.

598
00:33:21,839 --> 00:33:26,279
But here's the very first research paper that I could find.

599
00:33:26,359 --> 00:33:28,559
They don't name it at this point, no one's calling

600
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,039
it adrenochrome, but here's someone observing it actually being synthesized

601
00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:37,319
out of adrenaline. In nineteen twenty three, nineteen thirty four,

602
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:42,240
this is gonna get fun. The Scottish Rite Supreme Council,

603
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,279
Northern Jurisdiction. They get together and this guy on the

604
00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:51,880
right here he decides the Melvin B. Johnson, he was

605
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:57,160
the head the thirty third degree Supreme Right Commander Illuminati

606
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,160
confirmed exactly. He he decides that the Scottish Rite has

607
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,519
got all these war chests, they got all this money,

608
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,680
and they want to invest it into something noble that

609
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,880
would align with what Scottish Right believes and what they

610
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,440
ended up targeting was this concept called dementia preycox, which,

611
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:17,760
if you know what dementia means, this is when grandma

612
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,079
and grandpa gets old and they forget your name, and

613
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,840
maybe it's Alzheimer's, or maybe they're just like wandering around

614
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,079
talking to ghosts. Maybe it turns into schizophrenia. All of

615
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:32,119
those things combined into one category would have been dementia

616
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:36,400
prey coocks. But that prey cox part that roughly translates

617
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,360
to like early onset dementia. So what they were interested

618
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,320
in is, Okay, grandma and grandpa start, you know, sun sundowning.

619
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:47,599
That's something that's been going on since human history. But

620
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:50,519
if it happens to your twenty year old son or

621
00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:53,760
your twelve year old son, well, now you're concerned because

622
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,719
that that is not as typical. And also it means

623
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,119
that all of the money and the land and the

624
00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:02,559
power that you want to pass down to your kids,

625
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,719
if your kids already schizophrenic and already got dementia, it's

626
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,079
posing a real problem. And this was happening more often,

627
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,440
and especially these elite families that had all this money

628
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,800
and had all these resources. So this is one way

629
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,400
of attacking that let's say, like, let's figure out what

630
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:22,880
the hell is happening with this dementia precox and see

631
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,199
if we can even figure out a solution for it.

632
00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: So the early onset of this a group of mental illnesses,

633
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,079
I guess you could call it, right.

634
00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:39,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's basically skitz a if you just needed to

635
00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:42,199
throw like one label on it. But any anything that

636
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:47,599
would relate to schizophrenia, Alzheimer's, multiple personality, disassociative identity, dementia,

637
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,400
any sort of mental illness that was persistent would get

638
00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:56,000
thrown under this very massive label of dementia precox.

639
00:35:56,639 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 2: But you see how this looks right with the whole

640
00:35:59,639 --> 00:36:03,159
the Scottish right funding this sort of stuff, Well, you

641
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,039
tell me how does it?

642
00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: How does it look?

643
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:08,519
Speaker 2: It's not a good look because so so.

644
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 3: Let me let me just act like the complete bumpkin

645
00:36:11,559 --> 00:36:15,840
idiot pro Mason here. But I guess on the pro side,

646
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,559
they saw a very real issue that was affecting young

647
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:24,119
kids and said how can we solve this? And sort

648
00:36:24,159 --> 00:36:27,360
of being mentalists and figuring out how the mind works

649
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,119
itself is kind of their thing. That's kind of what

650
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:35,320
the Masons and the Scottish rite in particular Yeah, so

651
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,920
this kind of fits directly in their wheelhouse. And Melvin B.

652
00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:41,920
Johnson over here, he figures, if we can make a

653
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:45,719
dent in this issue, if we can partially solve schizophrenia

654
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,719
or early onset dementia, this dementia praecox, then it would

655
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,599
be a great lasting legacy for how the Masons have improved,

656
00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:58,119
you know, the humankind like you know, forever, if if

657
00:36:58,159 --> 00:37:00,840
we can get some sort of leeway on this one

658
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,159
particular issue that has been plaguing humanity for thousands of

659
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,639
years documented again, and this is.

660
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:12,519
Speaker 2: Part of what a lot of people who are pro Masonic. Hey,

661
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:16,880
I've heard a lot of the arguments for Masonry is

662
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,880
we help the community. We're actually good people. We're trying

663
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,480
to transform right the quite literally reality in the world

664
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,000
through good things. But then you could see how this

665
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:31,280
would look for a regular layman person who's blaming the

666
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,559
California fires or the fog or the drones and the illuminati,

667
00:37:35,639 --> 00:37:36,719
Freemasons or.

668
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,599
Speaker 3: A regular layman. Is that a regular a schizophrenic conspiracy theorist.

669
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: I think that a majority of people who are here,

670
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,719
I think that the regular people, and by regular people

671
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,639
talking about people who don't research, and they just read

672
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:54,400
off a headlines.

673
00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 3: They don't care about the capital T no capital T.

674
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: I think that at least ninety percent of them believe

675
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:02,599
in the Illuminati or something.

676
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 3: And okay, well pull up that study. That's an interesting one,

677
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:07,159
that that ninety.

678
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:10,639
Speaker 2: Now let's look it up. Though, let's look it up

679
00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:11,719
because ohd.

680
00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:14,519
Speaker 3: No, funny enough. I actually have that in my presentation

681
00:38:14,679 --> 00:38:17,840
here towards the end, there was a survey that shows

682
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,480
why this particular topic of a dreamo chrome is terrifying

683
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:24,760
to sort of news organizations.

684
00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: All right, so, okay, this is AI so whatever, but

685
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,199
I'm sure I could pull up the link for it.

686
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,280
In a twenty nineteen survey, nine percent of the respondents

687
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,760
strongly believed in the conspiracy theory that the Illuminati secretly

688
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,920
controlled the world. Thirty seven percent of respondents strongly disbelieved

689
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,800
in this theory in twenty fifteen.

690
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: So nine percent. So we were one and ten. Yeah,

691
00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:49,719
I was only off by by forty percent. Yeah, that's

692
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:50,480
not a big big deal.

693
00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: All right, So this is August twelve, twenty twenty four.

694
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:56,239
To what extent do you believe in the conspiracy theory

695
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,360
that the Illumini secretly control the world. And this was

696
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,960
is not going to show me. Okay, it's not going

697
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,800
to show me. There was twelve hundred responds. So let's see,

698
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,480
we can download this hold on. I have to sign

699
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:12,800
up for this stupid thing I.

700
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,679
Speaker 3: Want to do. Though, if you believe that Illuminati control

701
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,000
the world, that doesn't also imply that you think that's

702
00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:21,239
good or bad, that it's an afarious thing or not

703
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,159
an afarious thing.

704
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think the wording illuminatis secretly control the world,

705
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,480
I think that gives it already like a sort of

706
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:32,119
negative connotation, like, oh, who are these people? Why are

707
00:39:32,159 --> 00:39:33,719
they secretly controlling the world?

708
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,679
Speaker 3: Maybe, I mean, but you can flip that and say,

709
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,639
do you believe that Freemasons secretly controlled the American Revolution?

710
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,400
And I think that's almost a historical fact at this point,

711
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,079
that's not even conspiracy theory that if there was no

712
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,199
Freemasonry in America, there likely would have not been a

713
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,320
United States of America because all of like even the

714
00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:58,079
culpeper secret sort of plans with Washington. I don't think

715
00:39:58,199 --> 00:40:00,280
any of that would have would have happened. All of

716
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,639
the sons of Liberty that happened in Boston, if you

717
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,400
go and do one of those historical tours, they bring

718
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,519
you to like three or four lodges. Most of them

719
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:11,280
were just taverns that met after hours, and this is

720
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,480
where they planned on how they would basically start and

721
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:17,960
continue the American Revolution. So, I mean, just as a

722
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:21,599
counterpoint to that, a secret group of people unless you

723
00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:25,440
also believe America is evil and never should have existed.

724
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:28,000
Is that your Is that your impression? Oh?

725
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, I wasn't listening to what you just said, right, No,

726
00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:33,400
that's that's normal. So Illuminati twenty three percent according to

727
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,880
a survey this is in twenty sixteen, twenty three percent

728
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,880
of Americans believe in in the Illuminati in the New

729
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,519
World Order. So it's bumped up to twenty three percent,

730
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:44,199
which is a quarter of the people. I mean, that's

731
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,320
that's all. Well, depending on the size of this survey,

732
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,199
of course, if it's you know, it's a controlled group.

733
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,199
Speaker 3: But yeah, okay, So that's how it looks though, is

734
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,760
that you've got a small group of influential people, yes,

735
00:40:56,039 --> 00:40:59,079
that are controlling the world, and now they are spearheading

736
00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:07,159
this dementia pree Cox research. Sure, yes, so this was

737
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,960
the guy that gets put in charge of this initiative

738
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,880
of looking intomentia. Praecox is a guy named doctor Nolan

739
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,639
Lewis who has some absolutely insane backstory. I won't get

740
00:41:18,679 --> 00:41:22,360
into all the tangents, but he was a consultant at

741
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,960
the Nuremberg War crimes trials where he concluded which Nazis

742
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,960
were sane and which were insane and who could go

743
00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:31,400
through the trial. He was the guy that got to

744
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,920
decide that. He also has a whole lot of research

745
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,280
part of this program that got funded through giving children

746
00:41:41,159 --> 00:41:44,480
meth Like young delinquent kids that were having problems in

747
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:48,000
school or having behavioral problems would give them meth amphetamine.

748
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,159
And this is where we get Riddlin and all of

749
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,480
the other sort of ADHD drugs. It all comes from

750
00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:59,199
this particular initiative, this dementia precox initiative. It dovetails with

751
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,280
all of that. So adderall and all that stuff correct, adderall, Riddlin,

752
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,639
they're all basically forms of myth. And they used to

753
00:42:05,679 --> 00:42:07,760
give it to just troubled kids and they were like,

754
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,639
oh wow, when we hop these kids up on myth,

755
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,320
they do significantly better in school, way better than placebo

756
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:14,719
would indicate so.

757
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I took adderall in high school. I wrote, like,

758
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,679
I don't know how many how long I'm an essay,

759
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:23,639
I wrote, I wrote an essay, and then I went,

760
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,039
I cleaned my entire house and I changed all the

761
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:28,960
light bulbs in the house to that day.

762
00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 3: So if you take even more, you can start seeing things.

763
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 2: Well okay, So this guy was also part of that

764
00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:43,519
initial testing of getting kids hooked on this stuff. When

765
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:46,400
you go and they diagnose your child with adheah, I mean.

766
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 3: It's it's a it's a complex story to weave here,

767
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,800
but simplicity it just looks though Thomas and look at it. Well,

768
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,039
so doctor Nolan, yeah, I see how this looks. Doctor

769
00:42:56,119 --> 00:43:00,360
Nolan Lewis, I don't believe was a freemason. He was

770
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,480
funded by Freemasons, and he was the one put in

771
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:09,559
charge of this entire initiative. I'm not he confirmed. So

772
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,119
here here's where I think the first time the word

773
00:43:13,159 --> 00:43:16,880
adrenochrome gets defined. I mean, there was a few people

774
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,840
that kind of hit on this around the same time.

775
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,280
Like one of these desire forms that are like manifesting

776
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,000
in physical reality, you know, like an idea gets into

777
00:43:26,039 --> 00:43:28,239
one guy's head and he gets into twenty guys heads.

778
00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:31,079
But this is the first documented one that seems the

779
00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:35,519
most credible and US based. So if it's a US scientist,

780
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:39,960
I give it more credit. Automatically, adrenaline induces a vigorous

781
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,400
oxygen uptake when added in low concentrations. Bab bah bah

782
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:48,599
bah bah. But he's talking about a red colored oxidation product, adrenochrome.

783
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:52,960
So here's ninety seven green and Richter paper. They actually

784
00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:56,159
name this adrenochrome. This is the first time that you

785
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,760
see this word anywhere in scientific.

786
00:43:59,639 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: Sort of interesting which acts as a respiration carrier. What

787
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:06,480
does that mean?

788
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 3: Well, he's talking about adrenochrome as though it can continue

789
00:44:12,599 --> 00:44:20,119
carrying like oxygen. I assume because adrenaline is oxidized to adrenochrome,

790
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,639
meaning as it's reacting with oxygen, then it continues. I

791
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,960
don't believe that they understood what they were looking at

792
00:44:29,039 --> 00:44:31,920
at this point. This is mostly just the first time

793
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,559
that it gets noticed in a laboratory setting. There was

794
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:37,199
a slightly earlier observation.

795
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:37,159
Speaker 2: Of this one.

796
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,159
Speaker 3: It was a guy that was doing experiments on rabbits coincidentally,

797
00:44:41,639 --> 00:44:44,239
and he noticed that this clear liquid that was coming

798
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,519
from the adrenals would turn red and then purple as

799
00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:50,000
soon as it hit the air. But he also didn't

800
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,719
give it a name. He just said that it was

801
00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:55,199
changing to this color. So these guys green and Rich

802
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,039
there they come up with the name adrenochrome, which literally

803
00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:02,880
means the color, which is chrome, the color of the adrenals.

804
00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:07,280
So adrena chrome means adrenal color. So that's that's this

805
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,639
observation of this clear liquid turning into a red liquid.

806
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 2: Okay. And cellar respiration is the process by which biological

807
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,440
fuels are broken down in the presence of hydrogen acceptor

808
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:24,039
such as oxidant, to drive the production of adenocene trifostate ATP,

809
00:45:24,199 --> 00:45:28,639
which stores chemical energy in a biologically accessible form, so

810
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,880
again to kind of speed up the transfer we could

811
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,599
say transfer of energy and cells.

812
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 3: I mean, well, it's the natural process of your body,

813
00:45:39,199 --> 00:45:43,119
you know, taking this very impotent substance of adrenaline and

814
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,079
then morphing it and changing it into things that.

815
00:45:46,119 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 2: It's more useful for, like antiaging.

816
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: There is there is some of that. Actually, there is

817
00:45:53,559 --> 00:45:56,320
some anti Let's let's let's keep going. Let's keep going.

818
00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:01,079
So here's this is one of hundreds of articles but

819
00:46:01,159 --> 00:46:02,920
I just the point I want to prove here is

820
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,719
that adrenochrome this isn't from nineteen forty two. A lot

821
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,440
of people be like, oh, this is just something that

822
00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:11,000
like these doctors knew about, or like no one was

823
00:46:11,039 --> 00:46:14,039
ever talking about this. It only got popular in the

824
00:46:14,159 --> 00:46:18,400
nineteen nineties, or you know, with like like a Fear

825
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,199
and Loathing movie or something that's not true either. This

826
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,920
is from a publication called the Montana Oil and Mining Journal.

827
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,800
It's literally about oil and mining, and yet they have

828
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,760
an article about adrenochrome and a easy chemical reaction turns

829
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,679
adrenaline in test tubes into a dark red powder known

830
00:46:38,679 --> 00:46:41,840
as a drenochrome. It is not in the least poisonous.

831
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,599
It can be synthesized. A drawback is difficulty to make

832
00:46:46,639 --> 00:46:50,159
it keep long. So here even in a magazine article

833
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:55,199
made for miners, they were reporting on this new substance

834
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,760
called adrenochrome that can't sit out for very long otherwise

835
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,840
it loses its potency. So when people again are like

836
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,519
just ordered on Alibaba, just snort this stuff that you

837
00:47:04,559 --> 00:47:08,360
can order online, like even the miners in nineteen forty

838
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,199
two knew that that wasn't the kind that you wanted.

839
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,639
Speaker 2: So why do they sell the particular powdered form. One

840
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,599
is that to be able to run sort of some

841
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,199
other tests on it, or.

842
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's for easier transport, easier research. If you wanted

843
00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:28,719
to see how adrenochrome, say, reacts to another chemical, then

844
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,800
you can do that without having to keep this oqueous

845
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,599
form at below room temperature levels. And then also there

846
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,599
are plenty of like, not many people see the medical

847
00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:44,760
or practical use in the psychedelic effects of adrenochrome, mainly

848
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,000
because they already have LSD and DMT and psilocybe, and

849
00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:53,800
there's so many others that are more manageable, easier to synthesize,

850
00:47:54,039 --> 00:47:58,159
have probably more potent, more specific effects that you can document.

851
00:47:58,679 --> 00:48:01,679
So adrenochrome is just a lot of work for not

852
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,559
a lot of payoff if you compare it to all

853
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:06,360
those other options. That's my interpretation of it.

854
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,519
Speaker 2: Because you'd have to extract it from the person excreting

855
00:48:09,639 --> 00:48:11,440
the adrenaline, and then you'd have to.

856
00:48:11,559 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 3: Use it right away for drum and then you got

857
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,320
to like, yeah, then the mess.

858
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,519
Speaker 2: So essentially you'd extract it and then if you were

859
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,440
let that sit for twenty four hours at room temperature,

860
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:26,199
then that would be the adrenochrome right when it starts

861
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,159
to get ripe, right.

862
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:31,559
Speaker 3: Right, And I think after twenty four hours it's mostly aert.

863
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,239
You're losing almost all of the potency. So really, and

864
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,800
what they do too, is you don't have to just

865
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,360
let it sit out in the air. That would be

866
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,079
a natural way that you could observe this happening, which,

867
00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:45,719
by the way, if you do that, it's a green fluorescence,

868
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,400
meaning that if you turn all the lights off as

869
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:52,679
adrenaline turns into adrenochrome, it glows freaking green, which is

870
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:57,559
also wild to even consider. But in the laboratory setting,

871
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,039
even the earlier test, the way they would synthesize a

872
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:06,199
drenochrome is they would add silver iodide. I believe this adrenaline.

873
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:07,800
What's up?

874
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 2: So is Hollywood hiding this and all our all?

875
00:49:10,519 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 3: Yes, Limer is basically a drenochrome. He's a glowing ball

876
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:14,599
of a drenochrome.

877
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,519
Speaker 2: Dude, it's all making sense, bro.

878
00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: I'm glad you put I'm glad you put that together.

879
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,199
Speaker 2: We're gonna bust this spide open. That's why you have

880
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,360
one here in your room. I'm onto you, dude.

881
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 3: I just if you notice every once in a while

882
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,000
that it looks like you too. What was another caprice son?

883
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:32,000
I believe for a high sea box. Right, that was

884
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:33,880
all about just popping the straw into kids.

885
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 2: That's all that was about, all right, all right, here

886
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,559
we go, just making connections as we go. All right.

887
00:49:39,639 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 3: So in nineteen fifty two, So again, it started in

888
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,599
nineteen thirty fours when the Scottish rey decided to actually

889
00:49:45,679 --> 00:49:49,480
start cutting some checks to look into this a drenochrome issue.

890
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,440
Nineteen fifty two is the first time they get this

891
00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:57,000
comprehensive report. And this is, in my mind, this is

892
00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:59,800
one of the most interesting parts of all the research

893
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,400
I've done it on drenochrome. This is doctor Abram Hoffer,

894
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,320
and he's writing about his frustration with all of his

895
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:14,159
other colleagues because he says the second controversy controversy which

896
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,599
must be an unusual one in science, is that every

897
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,400
paper published so far on a drenochrome shows that it's

898
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:28,000
psychologically active and changes behavior in man and animals. That's unequivocal.

899
00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:31,960
He says right there that it is psychologically active and

900
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:35,639
it causes change in man and animal, and then he

901
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:40,199
says a curiosity resulted in many who had worked with

902
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:45,320
a drenochrome provided data it was hallucinogenic, while several who

903
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,639
had not studied a drenochrome insisted it was not.

904
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 2: So.

905
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 3: In other words, he's the one that's actually experimenting with

906
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,320
a drenochrome. He's taking it himself, he's giving it to

907
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,639
his friends. He gave it to him, and his friends

908
00:50:57,639 --> 00:50:59,440
would give it to their wives and they would have

909
00:50:59,559 --> 00:51:03,000
house parties and test the drenochrome. They gave it the pigeons,

910
00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:07,079
like seriously makes dogs. Yeah, it's all all fully documented,

911
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,880
the amount that he took, the things that they were seeing.

912
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:13,480
He had a whole spreadsheet on like who saw what,

913
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,960
who had auditory, who had visual hallucinations. Everything. So this

914
00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:22,719
guy unequivocally is stating it is a hallucinogenic drug. Yet

915
00:51:23,639 --> 00:51:26,280
everyone that he was coming across and his peers in

916
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,599
the scientific realm, they were constantly trying to disprove him.

917
00:51:29,639 --> 00:51:31,880
And when he would ask them where their receipts were,

918
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,239
he's like, look, I got I got the documentation, i'd

919
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,920
got these studies, I got my wife right now, what's that?

920
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:40,519
Speaker 2: So he's like, you want some right now, brother, we'll

921
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:41,119
do it right, I know.

922
00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 3: He's telling them, like, I can prove it. I've been

923
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:46,079
doing it. All the other people that I work with

924
00:51:46,199 --> 00:51:48,519
that have been doing it can all attest to this.

925
00:51:49,079 --> 00:51:52,239
And everyone else that has nothing to do with the drenochrome.

926
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,679
They're not researching it. They're just like, no, that sounds

927
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,719
like BS to me, man, And that's it. And that's

928
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,719
the end of the conversation. And he gets really frustrated

929
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,559
with this because it keeps happening over and over. This

930
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,039
is where I feed into some of the conspiracy, like

931
00:52:06,199 --> 00:52:10,079
what are they suppressing? Well, in nineteen fifty two, we

932
00:52:10,199 --> 00:52:15,559
are already beyond Operation or Project Chatter from the Navy,

933
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:19,159
which turns into Bluebird, which turns into Art to Choke

934
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,920
and MK Ultra. That ball is rolling. So I'm thinking

935
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,719
that at this time in nineteen fifty two, he releases this,

936
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,599
the military and the OSS and the CIA are already

937
00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:33,599
familiar with all these psychedelic drugs and they're keeping it

938
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:34,480
under wraps.

939
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 2: Is right before the MK ultrous. So according to this,

940
00:52:38,119 --> 00:52:41,079
Katar began in nineteen fifty three. This is nineteen fifty two.

941
00:52:41,519 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Because because mk Ultra lineage kind of starts

942
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,800
with Project Chatter in the Navy and then Bluebird and

943
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,840
then eventually morphs into Mkulture. And I believe Chatter was

944
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,519
like forty seven or so. I mean, it's basically all

945
00:52:54,599 --> 00:52:57,880
post World War two, and once all this happens, That's

946
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,880
the only thing that makes sense to me after every

947
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,159
thing I've read, is that the reason his colleagues were

948
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,079
denying his research that he had proof of is because

949
00:53:07,159 --> 00:53:09,239
they realized it might have just been a chemical that

950
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,320
slipped through the cracks, or that even more likely because

951
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,880
it's not something that you have to synthesize in a lab.

952
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,440
Like anyone that has adrenaline can potentially have a drenochrome,

953
00:53:19,519 --> 00:53:21,960
and that everyone right now, me and you have a

954
00:53:22,039 --> 00:53:25,199
drenochrome in our blood. So how do you really make

955
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:25,840
that illegal?

956
00:53:26,159 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 2: Right?

957
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,199
Speaker 3: How do you make that a controlled substance if it's

958
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:30,800
already in our blood to begin with?

959
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,679
Speaker 2: Okay, do you think that they might have gotten it

960
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:35,559
from the Nazis?

961
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 3: Got what a drenochrome? Like?

962
00:53:39,159 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: The concept? So right now, like I'm reading about here,

963
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:47,920
you have the Edgewood Arsenal human experiments from nineteen forty

964
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:48,719
eight to nineteen sty.

965
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,639
Speaker 3: I think we knew way way before World War Two,

966
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,880
and it didn't require Edgewood arsenal and that's where Frank

967
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,000
Olsen was at, which is one of the things that

968
00:53:58,039 --> 00:54:01,400
bleue mk ultra wide open. What happened is that we

969
00:54:01,519 --> 00:54:05,239
already knew about mescaline because Native Americans used it. You

970
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,400
could order it by mail as late as the eighteen eighties,

971
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,639
I believe directly from all sorts of people across the country.

972
00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:18,000
Adrenaline was first synthesized in a lab in nineteen oh

973
00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:20,920
one by a Japanese guy that I always make his

974
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,280
name up. It's like Takashami or something, but he actually

975
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,039
synthesized it in a lab in New York City, and

976
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,840
from there they start realizing how similar adrenaline is to

977
00:54:32,199 --> 00:54:35,960
mescaline and to a whole host of other psychedelics. So

978
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,000
in that is I think where they already knew. They

979
00:54:39,079 --> 00:54:42,679
already knew that there was potentially a drug that was

980
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,880
derived from adrenaline. And since adrenaline has found the connecting

981
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,039
the dots, there is a way that you could get

982
00:54:50,199 --> 00:54:55,039
something from somebody's blood that would make you have hallucinogenarians.

983
00:54:56,159 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: This is the stuff that's found in that one.

984
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,519
Speaker 3: What's the peyote.

985
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've known people who have taken

986
00:55:03,679 --> 00:55:04,639
this sort of stuff.

987
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 3: Yes, So they're all based on these things called indoles.

988
00:55:08,159 --> 00:55:13,639
Like the simplest version of this is that adrenaline and

989
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:18,239
mescaline and psilocybin an LSD and even I believe cocaine

990
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,119
and meth, like, all these different drugs, they kind of

991
00:55:21,199 --> 00:55:24,679
all fit the same lock, right, they all fit like

992
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,599
the same keyhole. They're slightly different keys, they're slightly different shape,

993
00:55:28,639 --> 00:55:31,639
but they can all fit into this lock. And once

994
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,760
they discover this, they realize that it's sort of this

995
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:39,199
interchangeable substance that can use on that anything that reacts

996
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:45,679
to or produces adrenaline will be affected by this. Fish, lizards, spiders, humans, anybody.

997
00:55:46,599 --> 00:55:49,559
So that's really And in this report here, I've got

998
00:55:49,639 --> 00:55:54,199
this quote and it says, again, this is him being

999
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,280
frustrated with his peers trying to disprove his work constantly,

1000
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,000
and he says, as we will show later, it's likely

1001
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:05,280
that the extensive use of a drenochrome semi carbezide by

1002
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,440
surgeons drive in part from its euphorian properties, and not

1003
00:56:09,639 --> 00:56:13,840
because it's a major chemostatic chemical. As they think this

1004
00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:18,280
semi carbazide this is I believe one of those other

1005
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,880
forms of a drenochrome where they salt it and they

1006
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,639
make it shelf stable and it loses some of its

1007
00:56:24,679 --> 00:56:29,639
psychological active properties. So if they already had this shelf

1008
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,719
stable version and they were testing that, maybe that's why

1009
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,840
all of this peers were saying no, no, you know,

1010
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,039
you're making all this psychedelic stuff up because they weren't

1011
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:40,719
testing it on pure aqueous adream on with.

1012
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,199
Speaker 2: A capital T. So this do was onto the truth

1013
00:56:44,159 --> 00:56:46,440
right hapital T and everybody else was just a shill.

1014
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,639
Speaker 3: So here's the lineage of how how do we know?

1015
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,840
Why are we talking about a drenochrome right now? And

1016
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,719
I would say psychedelics in general, And all roads lead

1017
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,760
back to Oltus Huxley's Doors of Perception nineteen fifty because

1018
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:05,159
in the exact same page that he talks about mescaline

1019
00:57:05,199 --> 00:57:08,159
for the first time, he also lists a drenochrome right

1020
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,519
next to it. And the reason that he even knows

1021
00:57:10,519 --> 00:57:14,159
about adrenochrome is because he got his mescaline from I

1022
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:20,199
believe it was Humphrey Osmond, another colleague of doctor Abram

1023
00:57:20,239 --> 00:57:23,079
Hoffer and Osmond. As he gave him the mescaline, was

1024
00:57:23,159 --> 00:57:25,280
also telling him about all these other things they were

1025
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,000
looking into, one of them being a drenochrome. So Altus

1026
00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:32,800
Huxley knows about adrenochrome. Nineteen fifty seven. Only three years later,

1027
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:37,519
this is when Robert Gordon Wasason's work for allegedly the Cia,

1028
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,000
where he goes to Mexico and South America and all

1029
00:57:41,039 --> 00:57:44,840
over the world finding magic mushrooms. He found Salvia de venerum.

1030
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,599
These make their way into the public sphere through Time

1031
00:57:48,679 --> 00:57:52,280
Life magazine because friends with a guy named Henry Luce

1032
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,079
who's in the Sentry Club. He was a Skull and

1033
00:57:54,159 --> 00:57:59,480
Bones member. Anyways, he confirmed, we wouldn't have heard about

1034
00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:04,119
out As Huxley if it weren't for this Time Life magazine,

1035
00:58:04,159 --> 00:58:07,119
because this is the one that the housewives are reading.

1036
00:58:07,199 --> 00:58:09,000
This is the one that's in the grocery store, like

1037
00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:11,880
everyone is familiar with it once it comes out on

1038
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,239
Time Life magazine. Whereas Outis Huxley would have been way

1039
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,480
more niche. This would have been just like writers and

1040
00:58:18,679 --> 00:58:23,119
poets and artists and just sir freakos. Yeah, then we've

1041
00:58:23,159 --> 00:58:26,199
got in nineteen fifty eight, a year after Life magazine

1042
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:30,519
came out. Carry Grant in his biography, he talks about

1043
00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:35,920
nineteen fifty eight he meets this doctor called doctor Oscar Janniger,

1044
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,719
or they called him doctor Oz. And he was like

1045
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,639
this doctor to Hollywood, to all the celebrities, and you

1046
00:58:42,719 --> 00:58:45,800
could pay him in nineteen fifty eight dollars two hundred

1047
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,440
dollars and he would give you LSD and let you

1048
00:58:49,519 --> 00:58:52,159
kind of trip out under his guy. And no one

1049
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,920
really had access to this, No one really knew exactly

1050
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,000
what it was. Yet it came through Hollywood. First, it

1051
00:58:58,119 --> 00:59:02,280
was the military and then Hollywood. So there's a pipeline here.

1052
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,519
And the reason I'm bringing this up is because even

1053
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:11,079
in drenochrome, theories tend to revolve around politics, military, and Hollywood. Right,

1054
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:15,039
So here we've got all three sort of detailed, just

1055
00:59:15,239 --> 00:59:19,800
in the initial psychedelic Revolution. And then as we keep going,

1056
00:59:20,559 --> 00:59:23,440
nineteen fifty nine is this movie called The Tingler with

1057
00:59:23,559 --> 00:59:27,039
Vincent Price. It's the first time that I believe that

1058
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,159
LSD was ever featured in a motion picture film. Again,

1059
00:59:31,239 --> 00:59:33,920
this is before most people even knew what it was,

1060
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,159
and the premise of the Tingler was that he would

1061
00:59:37,239 --> 00:59:40,880
give people so much LSD that it would make them

1062
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:46,159
create so much paranoia and fear that it became a

1063
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,360
physical manifestation that an actual what looks like a weird

1064
00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:55,559
sort of leech slash caterpillar slug thing would develop inside

1065
00:59:55,639 --> 00:59:58,320
of their body, like on their spinal cord, and that

1066
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,400
if you gave them enough LSD and you invoked enough fear,

1067
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,480
maybe through torture or punishment or anything, that you could

1068
01:00:05,519 --> 01:00:10,039
actually take this physical Tingler alien sort of like demonic

1069
01:00:10,119 --> 01:00:13,159
life form and extract it from the person and kind

1070
01:00:13,199 --> 01:00:16,679
of harvest it. So in my mind, this is perhaps

1071
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,599
where some of this like frazzle drip style theories they

1072
01:00:20,639 --> 01:00:22,920
are kind of come from this movie The Tingler, which

1073
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,480
is the sort of thing, use a psychedelic drug torture

1074
01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:28,400
someone until it gets to such a large extreme that

1075
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,639
you're physically extracting pure fear from them.

1076
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: So they would extract a you saw, like a worm

1077
01:00:36,719 --> 01:00:38,079
alien type of thing out of them, and.

1078
01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:40,519
Speaker 3: Then yeah, you'd give them LSD, you'd freak them out,

1079
01:00:40,599 --> 01:00:44,000
you'd scare them, and then if you scare them enough,

1080
01:00:44,239 --> 01:00:47,519
the fear would turn into what originally would seem like

1081
01:00:47,559 --> 01:00:49,760
a tumor, but then it would be like moving around

1082
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,760
inside your body and they could extract it. It was

1083
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,599
this thing that would wrap itself around your spinal cord

1084
01:00:55,039 --> 01:00:57,960
that was then like creating and feeding off of your fear.

1085
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,480
So this whole idea of like a demonic entity or

1086
01:01:01,559 --> 01:01:05,480
some alien being like Neo and the matrix not your fear, yeah,

1087
01:01:05,519 --> 01:01:09,480
thing kind of like matrix style. WHOA. So that I

1088
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:12,079
think this is some of the DNA of like why

1089
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:16,000
is adrenochrome and these psychedelics mixed with torture and fear

1090
01:01:16,039 --> 01:01:16,800
and frazzle drip?

1091
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 2: But how many people know about this particular thing though, dude,

1092
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,320
not I mean a tangler.

1093
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,559
Speaker 3: It's it's literally the first major Hollywood movie that talks

1094
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:29,079
about LSD twenty five. So anyone that's a Hollywood snob,

1095
01:01:29,199 --> 01:01:32,039
movie writers, anyone that's a fan of Vincent Price, Like,

1096
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:35,239
if you like horror movies, if you're creating and producing

1097
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,360
and writing horror movies, you probably know about the tangler.

1098
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,599
And this was also one of the original movies that

1099
01:01:41,719 --> 01:01:46,039
would be shown with with percepto, which now they call

1100
01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:49,000
it like four D cinemas where you know, the seats

1101
01:01:49,039 --> 01:01:52,239
move around and they shake or maybe like some mist

1102
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:56,239
weole spray in your face to like emulate smell. Well,

1103
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,920
that was sort of like they have that now in

1104
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:00,679
the movie theater you go to, like and Imax. They

1105
01:02:00,719 --> 01:02:03,159
might have that. They were doing those same things in

1106
01:02:03,239 --> 01:02:06,320
nineteen fifty nine, only that they would make the seat

1107
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,239
buzz a little bit, it would like shake or maybe

1108
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,719
it did shock you, Yeah, and in order to make

1109
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,559
it feel like you yourself were being affected by this

1110
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:20,519
like Tingler entity, you know, inside your body. So I

1111
01:02:20,679 --> 01:02:23,320
don't think that this is like a sleeper hit that

1112
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,599
no one would have heard of now that it's a

1113
01:02:25,719 --> 01:02:28,000
nineteen fifty nine movie and we're talking about it.

1114
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:28,559
Speaker 2: You know.

1115
01:02:28,679 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 3: That's what Percepto in five years.

1116
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:35,239
Speaker 2: First picture in Percepto when the screen screams, you'll scream

1117
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,000
two if you value your life. So that's what you're

1118
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,480
talking about about. The whole immersive experience type of thing

1119
01:02:41,679 --> 01:02:44,880
like the Bugs Life ride that you do at Disney

1120
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,760
where it pokes you through the seat and stuff like that.

1121
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 3: You ever exactly. So this was the first time they

1122
01:02:50,039 --> 01:02:52,880
did this on a mass scale. It's got Vincent Price,

1123
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:57,079
who was a Hollywood, you know, sort of major name

1124
01:02:57,159 --> 01:02:59,519
when it came to herror and the first time you

1125
01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:04,159
see LSD or any psychedelic publicly advertised as such on

1126
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,880
the screen. So those three things combined, I feel set

1127
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,800
a huge ball in motion when it comes to like

1128
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,480
the adrenochrome theories.

1129
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,639
Speaker 2: Which stimulated spine tingling sensations reference on screen with electrically

1130
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,559
rigged theater seats that would mildly shock audiences during the

1131
01:03:20,599 --> 01:03:22,920
bigger scares whoa dude.

1132
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:25,119
Speaker 3: So you would feel like you're actually going through the

1133
01:03:25,159 --> 01:03:27,400
same thing you're seeing on the screen, which are these evil,

1134
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,960
demonic alien entities in your body feeding off of your fear.

1135
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,679
Your seat would vibrate and it would shock you, and

1136
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,320
that would be like the creature now feeding off of

1137
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,119
your fear off your spinal column.

1138
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,159
Speaker 2: This insane mythology was conceived by screenwriter Rob White when

1139
01:03:42,159 --> 01:03:45,440
he found himself studying centipede specimens around the time all

1140
01:03:45,519 --> 01:03:48,519
this Huxy encourage him to experiment with LSD.

1141
01:03:49,679 --> 01:03:52,719
Speaker 3: There's again all roads lead back to Aldus Huxley Man

1142
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:57,199
when it comes through adrenochrome in particular, Wow, and I

1143
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,119
won't get too much in a Naked Lunch. But Naked

1144
01:03:59,199 --> 01:04:02,119
Lunch by William Burns is another example of a writer

1145
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:06,599
that had all sorts of deep inside access MK ultra

1146
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:11,320
and psychedelic experiments that were going on way before they

1147
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,320
got into the public sphere. Naked Lunch is the proof

1148
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:17,039
of this one. And Naked Lunch he talks about a

1149
01:04:17,159 --> 01:04:21,760
doctor Benton, I think, and he's the guy that coined

1150
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,599
the concept twilight Zone. You know, like the scary TV

1151
01:04:25,719 --> 01:04:27,639
show or the surreal off twilight Zone. Well that was

1152
01:04:27,679 --> 01:04:30,519
actually a name that he gave a process when he

1153
01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:36,159
would shock his patients into comas. He would do insulin

1154
01:04:37,159 --> 01:04:39,679
shot comas and they would come back out of it

1155
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,559
and describe this weird twilight Zone. So again all this

1156
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:48,039
like writing and sort of paranormal conspiracy style shows, they

1157
01:04:48,119 --> 01:04:50,719
all kind of come from the same place. The very

1158
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,519
first time we see a drenochrome on the main screen

1159
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,239
is nineteen sixty two Clockwork Orange because make it onto

1160
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,360
the Milk Launch the.

1161
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 2: Aliens of Niga where they're drinking from their skulls. That

1162
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:04,440
movie's trippy as well.

1163
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 3: So it takes from nineteen thirty four until about nineteen

1164
01:05:12,519 --> 01:05:16,280
sixty two, so it takes just under thirty years a

1165
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:20,920
full generation before a drenochrome starts to edge its way

1166
01:05:21,079 --> 01:05:24,039
into pop culture and then it's kind of all over

1167
01:05:24,119 --> 01:05:29,519
from there. It starts building its own like legends behind it.

1168
01:05:29,719 --> 01:05:33,280
So we just have a brief reference. It says drencrome

1169
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:37,280
because they talk in this different dialect in Clockwork Orange.

1170
01:05:37,639 --> 01:05:41,440
So drencrome is a drenochrome. And there's proof that the

1171
01:05:41,559 --> 01:05:44,880
original writer of the book, Anthony Burgess, he was a

1172
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:49,639
huge fan of Outus Huxley, so he hears about adrenochrome

1173
01:05:49,639 --> 01:05:53,079
from Outus Huxley as well. Again, everything kind of comes

1174
01:05:53,119 --> 01:05:56,280
from Huxley, and Huxley got it from Humphrey Osmon.

1175
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:03,079
Speaker 2: So in Clockwork Orange also has what's his face, the

1176
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:05,440
one that everyone always talked, Stanley Kubrick, So he was

1177
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,239
the whole there's a lot of conspiracy.

1178
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 3: And he decided to include that detail in the movie.

1179
01:06:11,039 --> 01:06:12,719
I mean, there was plenty of things that didn't get

1180
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,320
included and got changed, but this is one that he

1181
01:06:15,519 --> 01:06:20,559
kept specifically, that dren crome. So yeah, anddirectly, Stanley Kubrick

1182
01:06:20,679 --> 01:06:24,280
is the one that first brought adrenochrome to the masses.

1183
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:25,960
Although you might not even know what the hell you're

1184
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,199
looking at, you just see dread crome in the background. Okay,

1185
01:06:28,639 --> 01:06:31,079
what does that mean? Unless you also read Doors of Perception,

1186
01:06:31,159 --> 01:06:34,320
you would have absolutely no idea what that meant until

1187
01:06:35,559 --> 01:06:39,159
right here. So by nineteen sixty seven, probably because of

1188
01:06:39,239 --> 01:06:44,239
Clockwork Orange, now people are writing stories about adrenochrome. Specifically.

1189
01:06:44,719 --> 01:06:47,320
One of them is by Terry Southern. He wrote on

1190
01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:52,199
Easy Rider, which is that biker movie with Dennis Hopper

1191
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,880
and a bunch of other kind of classic actors, about

1192
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,079
these this motorcycle gang that's taken psychedelics and going across

1193
01:06:59,199 --> 01:07:01,559
the country. Well, he also wrote and he worked for

1194
01:07:01,639 --> 01:07:04,719
Saturday Night Live, I believe too. He wrote a short

1195
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:09,039
story called Blood of a Wig and essentially it's about

1196
01:07:09,159 --> 01:07:12,920
these guys that break into an insane asylum because they

1197
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,760
understand if you siphon the blood, if you do a

1198
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:21,239
transfusion of blood from someone with schizophrenia into your blood stream,

1199
01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:25,519
that you get to temporarily experience what schizophrenia feels like.

1200
01:07:26,199 --> 01:07:29,679
And this comes from research in the nineteen thirties where

1201
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:35,000
they determined that schizophrenics had somewhere between five to ten

1202
01:07:35,199 --> 01:07:38,199
times the amount of adrenochrome in their blood as a

1203
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,760
normal person like I mentioned me, and you have got

1204
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,599
adrenochrome in our blood right now too, we have adrenaline

1205
01:07:44,119 --> 01:07:47,039
just in very small amounts, and then over time your

1206
01:07:47,079 --> 01:07:49,800
body sees the adrenaline and it's like I don't need

1207
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,039
this right now, so it slowly starts to decompose. That's

1208
01:07:53,079 --> 01:07:56,519
where you get the adrenochrome in your blood system. If

1209
01:07:56,559 --> 01:07:59,760
you're a schizophrenic, what this really mean and I'm using

1210
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,920
a term here, but like a big umbrella of schizophrenics,

1211
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:07,599
But if your schizophrenic, your body is constantly seeing threats

1212
01:08:07,679 --> 01:08:11,400
and hearing threats and going through this wild experience. So

1213
01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:14,679
you're gonna have all this adrenaline in your system all

1214
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,760
the time, which is partly why you might act a

1215
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,800
little bit irrational, right, Like if you were always jacked

1216
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,479
upon adrenaline, people would probably be like, well, stay away

1217
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:24,479
from wand that.

1218
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 2: Guys like that come from that, like PTSD and like

1219
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,399
people who are always in high tense situations in war

1220
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,399
because you're always on edge, like that will mess you

1221
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:35,479
up after you.

1222
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 3: Get you get an immedia injection of all this adrenaline

1223
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,880
in your system, and there's not a lot you can

1224
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,079
do with that other than act it out. And I

1225
01:08:43,159 --> 01:08:47,239
guess here's the reason why schizophrenic patients had all this

1226
01:08:47,319 --> 01:08:50,720
adreno chrome in their blood because they had all this adrenaline.

1227
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:54,640
But if your body is constantly producing more adrenaline than

1228
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,079
you know what to do with, there's only two options.

1229
01:08:57,239 --> 01:08:59,840
One option is that your body slowly decomposes it and

1230
01:09:00,039 --> 01:09:03,119
turns into drenochrome, that turns it into other sort of

1231
01:09:03,199 --> 01:09:07,199
derivatives until it's completely inert or you have a heart

1232
01:09:07,239 --> 01:09:09,399
attack and you die. Like those are the those are

1233
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,479
the main two options you got. So either you're gonna

1234
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,760
have massive amounts of drenochrome or you're gonna have a

1235
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:18,399
heart attack, and that's sort of, uh, this will The

1236
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,399
reason I'm bringing that up is because it'll play into

1237
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:24,000
some of those like life longevity claims later on. But

1238
01:09:24,119 --> 01:09:25,720
this guy go ahead, And.

1239
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,239
Speaker 2: It would also make sense that as your body's breaking

1240
01:09:28,359 --> 01:09:31,079
down the adrenal chrome, you're also absorbing it, so you're

1241
01:09:31,159 --> 01:09:36,640
getting the hallucinations and the psychoactive properties of it right well.

1242
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 3: That that was one of the theories that hoffer Hoffner had.

1243
01:09:41,039 --> 01:09:44,920
It was also a theory that Carl Jung had. Carl

1244
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,479
Jung had this idea. You know, he didn't talk about

1245
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,399
adrenochrome specific but he was theorizing that there was something

1246
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,920
called TOKS and X that was inside of our bodies,

1247
01:09:55,039 --> 01:09:57,560
that it was an actual chemical that would make you

1248
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,520
act crazy. And if that were true, then that means

1249
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,880
you can either give that chemical to someone or you

1250
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,199
could figure out some sort of an antidote for it.

1251
01:10:06,359 --> 01:10:08,800
He was also talking in this like like a cure

1252
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:13,159
for schizophrenia or cure for dementia, this toxin X. So

1253
01:10:13,399 --> 01:10:16,600
here is the closest thing that I think anyone's ever

1254
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:20,279
discovered to what an actual toxin X might be, and

1255
01:10:20,359 --> 01:10:23,279
that would be a drenochrome, although I don't know like well,

1256
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:28,000
this also comes in up in Hoffner's later papers that

1257
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,319
sure that it's a drenochrome. Specifically that is the psychedelic,

1258
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:36,800
but it enables other factors that would otherwise not be psychedelic.

1259
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,439
One of the examples is that he came across someone

1260
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,600
that was an LSD hardhead, meaning you could give him

1261
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,399
three or four times a normal dose of LSD and

1262
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,600
they just would not trip on it. They wouldn't have

1263
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,560
any of the uphooric effects, they wouldn't have any of

1264
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:53,560
the audio or visual hallucinations. But the second that he

1265
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,279
gave them a drenochrome and then it snapped in and

1266
01:10:56,359 --> 01:10:59,520
it started working immediately. So he was kind of theorizing

1267
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,880
that it's not even LSD, Like LSD might not even

1268
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,119
have any effect on you. It's the reaction you need

1269
01:11:06,199 --> 01:11:09,720
to have a drenochrome in your system. A highly controversial

1270
01:11:10,199 --> 01:11:13,720
claim that he made. And again even today, his peers

1271
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:15,560
if he were still alive, and he's not, but his

1272
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,279
peers would still be like, no, uh, that ain't real.

1273
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,000
So it's like no one's really picked up that torch

1274
01:11:21,199 --> 01:11:22,880
ever since he made those claims, and.

1275
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 2: That would make sense as to like a lot of

1276
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,239
people talk about, oh, I take this stuff and it

1277
01:11:26,279 --> 01:11:28,279
does nothing to me. I can take a bunch of

1278
01:11:28,359 --> 01:11:30,119
it and it does nothing to me. So maybe they're

1279
01:11:30,199 --> 01:11:35,760
low on adrenochrome or adrenaline in their body. Therefore they

1280
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:40,119
don't have adrenal chrome to synthesize. Therefore this substance can't

1281
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:44,760
react to said, you know, adrenochrome in their blood, so

1282
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:45,880
it does nothing for them.

1283
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 3: That's that's my impression of what doctor Abram Hoffer was

1284
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,960
was getting at in his later papers. Yeah, so this

1285
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,159
nineteen sixty seven Blood of a Wig, they mentioned a

1286
01:11:56,279 --> 01:11:59,279
drenochrome by name, and he basically says that they're gonna

1287
01:11:59,319 --> 01:12:01,920
go to this insane asylum and they're gonna take the

1288
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,520
blood of these schizophrenic patients and put it into their

1289
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,800
arms so that they can experience what it feels like.

1290
01:12:08,399 --> 01:12:10,479
And this is that idea of if I take a

1291
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,640
drenochrome from your body and put it into my body,

1292
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,840
I start to hallucinate. One of the interesting parts of

1293
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,119
this story is that not only does it work, but

1294
01:12:19,319 --> 01:12:23,239
they find this this Chinese poet, and as soon as

1295
01:12:23,319 --> 01:12:27,199
he starts taking this adrenalized as adrenochrome blood from this

1296
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,920
Chinese poet, not only does he feel what it's like

1297
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,119
to be schizophrenic, he says he feels what it's like

1298
01:12:33,239 --> 01:12:37,800
to be a Chinese poet, like he's actually reliving old

1299
01:12:38,079 --> 01:12:41,920
memory of this poet by kind of this blood. And

1300
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,119
you can see where this also dovetails in the sum

1301
01:12:45,199 --> 01:12:49,239
of the conspiracy theory lore into like obscene right, or

1302
01:12:49,279 --> 01:12:52,279
eating people's pineal glands, or like all of these things

1303
01:12:52,319 --> 01:12:54,880
where you can ingest a part of a person, like

1304
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,359
a cannibalistic aspect and now get to relive part of

1305
01:12:58,399 --> 01:13:02,000
their life or get to to relive some of their memories.

1306
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 2: And to clarify, this is a story that he wrote

1307
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,640
because there was no movie about this, right right.

1308
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 3: This is a short story called Blood of a Wig.

1309
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,880
And this was inside of a couple different collections of

1310
01:13:14,039 --> 01:13:15,760
short stories to put out. One of them was called

1311
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,960
burning Chrome or sorry know Sterry Tubban. This one was

1312
01:13:20,039 --> 01:13:24,520
called something about Dirt Marijuana read Dirt Marijuana and other

1313
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:29,439
short story right, and the actual article Blood of a Wig,

1314
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,760
the short story was published in High Times. It was

1315
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,399
published in like three or four different magazines as well.

1316
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,600
So this at this point most sort of like underground

1317
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,159
guys are watching Saturday Night Live, they're watching Easy Writer

1318
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,760
that are reading Terry Southern. Now they know about a drenochrome,

1319
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:48,520
so it starts to escalate. And this the reason this

1320
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,399
one is so important to know about too, is that

1321
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,960
it predates Fear and Loathing by at least four years.

1322
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:58,239
So Hunter S. Thompson is the most cited version of

1323
01:13:58,319 --> 01:14:01,600
a drenochrome, probably even more so because of the movie

1324
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,039
that came out with Johnny Depp and Benicio Del Toro

1325
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,000
where Johnny Depp holds up this bile and he says

1326
01:14:07,079 --> 01:14:09,199
that out of all these drugs you've seen him do

1327
01:14:09,279 --> 01:14:11,520
on screen at this point, right, they're like inhaling ether

1328
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,600
and that are in coke, and they're doing like they're

1329
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,520
doing every drug you've ever heard of, but they're actually

1330
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,119
a fraid to do too much of this adrenochrome. And

1331
01:14:19,159 --> 01:14:22,199
they say that it came from these Satanists and that

1332
01:14:22,399 --> 01:14:24,880
like the Satanists get it from kids, and that this

1333
01:14:25,079 --> 01:14:27,119
is where a lot of that lower comes from. But

1334
01:14:27,199 --> 01:14:29,520
I don't know if that would have existed without Blood

1335
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,039
of a Wig first, So this is the full lineage,

1336
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,079
and then in ninethe go ahead.

1337
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 2: So it just makes me wonder if people are copying Hollywood,

1338
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,239
or of Hollywood is copying like real life events. You know,

1339
01:14:44,319 --> 01:14:46,800
that's my whole thing. Does life imitate art? Does our

1340
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,239
imitate life? Type of thing with all these stories, because

1341
01:14:49,239 --> 01:14:52,479
how you're saying this particular movie in nineteen ninety eight,

1342
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:53,119
I believe.

1343
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:57,119
Speaker 3: It was right by Terry Gilliam who directed that one.

1344
01:14:57,199 --> 01:14:59,960
And in the director's cut of that, if you listen

1345
01:15:00,119 --> 01:15:03,640
to like the director commentary, he makes this bs claim

1346
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,840
of like, oh yeah, dream chrome doesn't even exist. We

1347
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,319
made it up for this movie, which we've already shown,

1348
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,640
is false on many levels. He wasn't even the first

1349
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:16,079
person to fictionalize it, let alone come up with it

1350
01:15:16,199 --> 01:15:16,920
as an idea.

1351
01:15:17,199 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, based on Hunter S. Thompson's novel of

1352
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:21,439
the same name.

1353
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,399
Speaker 3: Right, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. So it predates

1354
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:28,359
the actual concept of using this and harvesting it from

1355
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:34,199
other human beings in like unethical ways, predated that movie

1356
01:15:34,319 --> 01:15:37,359
by at least thirty years, Right, So there's another old

1357
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:42,000
generation separated. Another example that I think is one of

1358
01:15:42,039 --> 01:15:44,359
the better ones to bring up in nineteen seventy three,

1359
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,560
there's a book by this guy, Adam Gottlieb. It's called

1360
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:52,279
Legal Highs, and it's an alphabetical listing of every single

1361
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:56,399
quote unquote legal psychedelic that you could try and get

1362
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,880
your hands on. And he is in this book. And

1363
01:16:00,039 --> 01:16:02,720
the reason I bring this up is for anyone that's like, oh,

1364
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,319
that's not really a psychedelic or no one actually ever

1365
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:08,479
did that or used that. He did, And in the

1366
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:12,600
seventy three he even mentions that on the it's the

1367
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,039
very first drug listed. Because this book is in alphabetical

1368
01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:19,119
order and a drenochrome starts with ad So literally the

1369
01:16:19,239 --> 01:16:22,640
second you open this book and start going through the pages. Bam.

1370
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:26,279
The very first drug is a drenochrome. And even in

1371
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:30,880
his book nineteen seventy three he mentions that the semi

1372
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:35,119
carbazone version of this, that like shelf stable salted version,

1373
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:39,279
has absolutely no psychedelic effects you and then it's a

1374
01:16:39,319 --> 01:16:41,800
waste of time, but that there is a version of

1375
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:46,039
a drenochrome which has the psychedelic effects. So even this guy,

1376
01:16:46,119 --> 01:16:49,920
Adam Gottlie even seventy three, knew about the difference between

1377
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,800
these two things. After this, they get conflated and not

1378
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,079
many people really highlight the difference between these two forms.

1379
01:16:57,399 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 2: There it is right there, adrenochrome, semikarb carbozone, right there,

1380
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,159
material oxidize.

1381
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:11,560
Speaker 3: Ne epinepfyrin. That's epinephrine and adrenaline are basically the same thing.

1382
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,520
There was a war in the early nineteen hundreds over

1383
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:18,680
trying to patent it because it was synthesized, and it

1384
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,760
just depends on what context you're using it in. But

1385
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,600
adrenaline and epinephrin are exactly the same thing, just different names.

1386
01:17:26,159 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 2: Whoa dude affects physically, physical stimulating feeling of well being,

1387
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,359
slight reduction of thought processes, right.

1388
01:17:35,399 --> 01:17:38,399
Speaker 3: So again more evidence, more receipts that were just not

1389
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:43,119
making up all these claims about adrenochrome. And then I'll

1390
01:17:43,119 --> 01:17:45,880
start whipping through some of these more I'm not getting

1391
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,680
every single one in here, but we go from seventy

1392
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:52,479
three ten years later, we've got the winner market. This

1393
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,479
is the collection of another short stories, Burning Chrome, by

1394
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:58,479
William Gibson. William Gibson is the one that coined the

1395
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:04,720
term cyberspace. He's the one that came up with neuromancer,

1396
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,880
I Believe, which is one of the earliest like cyberpunk books.

1397
01:18:08,359 --> 01:18:11,760
And in this he mentions a guy that is taking

1398
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:15,039
a drenochrome, or that he has some sort of a

1399
01:18:15,159 --> 01:18:19,479
research chemical, a designer drug that is modified so that

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01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:23,279
it does not composee decompose into a drenochrome, otherwise it

1401
01:18:23,319 --> 01:18:26,279
would make you feel schizophrenic. So again we've got these

1402
01:18:26,359 --> 01:18:30,640
examples of fictional stories being written about people that knew

1403
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:36,000
about like a drenochrome making you feel schizophrenic. So nineteen

1404
01:18:36,079 --> 01:18:39,640
eighty six, Stephen King's It comes out, and this is

1405
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:43,720
where I think some of these satanic frazzle drip theories

1406
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:49,079
they get conflated and it's all built on this slow boil.

1407
01:18:50,079 --> 01:18:54,439
And Stephen King's it. Pennywise, the clown. He makes these

1408
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:58,439
statements that the he likes to eat the meat of

1409
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,199
the children, right, he tore and he scares kids and

1410
01:19:01,319 --> 01:19:03,960
he eats them essentially, or he feasts on their fear,

1411
01:19:04,119 --> 01:19:07,079
this concept of eating fear, feasting on fear, just like

1412
01:19:07,159 --> 01:19:09,960
that Tangler movie with Vincent Price. But now it's a

1413
01:19:10,039 --> 01:19:13,239
clown that lives in these sewers, and he mentions that

1414
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:17,199
fear salts the meat, which implies and it makes like

1415
01:19:17,399 --> 01:19:20,640
these kids taste better if he scares them first. And

1416
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:26,079
you can conflate with what tastes better to a monster

1417
01:19:26,279 --> 01:19:29,520
clown that lives in the gutters might be equated to

1418
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,039
like potency of like, oh, we have to torture the

1419
01:19:32,119 --> 01:19:35,319
kid to make the adrenochrome more potent, the same way

1420
01:19:35,399 --> 01:19:38,760
Pennywise would torture a kid to make their fear taste better.

1421
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:42,399
It's sort of that same analogy, except one you're talking

1422
01:19:42,399 --> 01:19:44,720
about a chemical effect, the other one you're talking about

1423
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,720
I guess your personal taste.

1424
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would lump up Stephen King in there

1425
01:19:50,119 --> 01:19:53,880
with Kubrick because they did work Kubrick made movies based

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01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:55,439
on stories that he wrote, right.

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01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Shining Be in particular. And then also Stephen

1428
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:03,319
King has a book called The Institute, which I think

1429
01:20:03,359 --> 01:20:06,319
he came out within like twenty nineteen or something. And

1430
01:20:06,399 --> 01:20:11,199
the Institute out tracking down these like Indigo children and

1431
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:16,079
torturing them and basically ex getting them to do all

1432
01:20:16,159 --> 01:20:19,479
sorts of crazy things with telekinesis and telepathy, but that

1433
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:25,039
over time they become schizophrenic, so that there's wild connections

1434
01:20:25,079 --> 01:20:29,279
between Stephen King and this concept of adrenochrome too. So

1435
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,359
we're slowly you can slowly see where we go from science,

1436
01:20:33,319 --> 01:20:37,720
all these scientific papers. Sure, then Huxley breaks into the

1437
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:41,359
writing world. This was a nonfiction book. Same with the

1438
01:20:41,399 --> 01:20:45,159
Life magazine, Same with Carry Grant's biography. And then you've

1439
01:20:45,199 --> 01:20:48,640
got Tingler and Naked Lunch and Clockwork Orange and Blood

1440
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:50,640
of a Wig and Fear and Loathing and Winter Market

1441
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,560
and these are all fiction being written about the same

1442
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:57,279
kind of topic. Now, in nineteen ninety two, a book

1443
01:20:57,359 --> 01:21:01,039
that probably gave me one of my very first conspiracy pills.

1444
01:21:01,079 --> 01:21:03,399
I've got no idea what color you would call this one,

1445
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:07,600
but the Franklin cover Up Child abuse, satanism, and murder

1446
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:12,560
in Nebraska. He describes kids that are essentially going through

1447
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,560
what the you know, the clown is putting the kids

1448
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,359
through in it or that what some of these guys.

1449
01:21:18,399 --> 01:21:21,079
But he says that they would be kidnapped, taken on

1450
01:21:21,399 --> 01:21:25,279
these private jets the Bohemian Grove, and kids would basically

1451
01:21:25,399 --> 01:21:27,560
murder each other and have to like drink each other's

1452
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:31,000
blood like all of the crazy frazzle drip style theories.

1453
01:21:31,039 --> 01:21:34,399
They kind of originated in this nineteen ninety two Franklin

1454
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,720
cover up book, which I don't think would have existed

1455
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:38,319
without all these books to predate it.

1456
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:41,239
Speaker 2: And this is based off. In June nineteen eighty eight,

1457
01:21:41,239 --> 01:21:44,840
and Omaha, Nebraska and multiple prominent Nebraska political and business

1458
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:48,319
figures were accused of involvement in a child sex trafficking ring.

1459
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:54,119
And again this sort of thing feeds into hey, the elites,

1460
01:21:54,199 --> 01:21:56,840
the wealthy, they all like kids. They want to they

1461
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:58,560
want to sniff them, and they want to do stuff

1462
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:03,039
to them. And yeah, it doesn't help. So the allegations

1463
01:22:03,039 --> 01:22:06,319
attracted significant public and political interest until at late nineteen

1464
01:22:06,399 --> 01:22:10,239
ninety when separate state and federal grand juries concluded that

1465
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,439
the allegations were unfounded and the ring was carefully a

1466
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,960
carefully crafted hoax.

1467
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:21,279
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you'll see often when this topic comes up with CC's

1511
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thirty three, so you know what that.

1512
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:49,279
Speaker 3: Means, Illuminati concerned. Also that same year, nineteen ninety two,

1513
01:24:49,399 --> 01:24:54,079
when Franklin cover It comes out, this artist Damien Hurst,

1514
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:57,920
he releases uh the series call I think he called

1515
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:01,399
it Dots and as you can see on the screen here,

1516
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,640
but there's just a bunch of different colored dots and

1517
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:08,279
he had lots and lots of variations of these. Well,

1518
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,960
the first one that got any major attention, it's sold

1519
01:25:12,079 --> 01:25:14,880
at I believe it was Christie's Art House. It was

1520
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:18,439
one of the two major like art auction houses. I

1521
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:22,000
think it was Christie's. It sold for like something like

1522
01:25:22,079 --> 01:25:24,520
three million dollars or something at the time ninety two.

1523
01:25:25,159 --> 01:25:29,239
And it was called a drenochrome semi caarbozone. So his

1524
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:33,119
dots painting gets snatched up, puts him on the map,

1525
01:25:33,239 --> 01:25:35,600
makes him rich, and it's on a drenochrome. So now

1526
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:39,880
we've got the topic of a drenochrome infiltrating the fine

1527
01:25:40,039 --> 01:25:43,520
art world. It's not splouters and it's oh yeah, you

1528
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:47,640
prob friends of them, right, absolutely. He he's friends with

1529
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,760
the Brahmovich. You'll see him in all sorts of like

1530
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:54,680
red carpet events with celebrities. One of his most famous

1531
01:25:55,039 --> 01:25:59,640
works was adapted into the movie The Cell with Jennifer

1532
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:04,000
Lopez and Vince Vaughan. It's about this serial killer that's

1533
01:26:04,079 --> 01:26:08,840
kidnapping and torturing children coincidentally, and she figures out a

1534
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:12,520
way to go into his head by taking some substance,

1535
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:16,560
some psychedelic and basically investigates through his head. Well, that

1536
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:20,199
was in one of those scenes. Have you seen The

1537
01:26:20,279 --> 01:26:21,000
Cell before?

1538
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:23,039
Speaker 2: The movie?

1539
01:26:23,079 --> 01:26:27,560
Speaker 3: What year is that? Ninety nine?

1540
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 2: No, I've never seen it, cover two thousand.

1541
01:26:32,359 --> 01:26:34,279
Speaker 3: You have to see this. This is like such a

1542
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:38,039
cult movie. But she goes into the mind of this

1543
01:26:38,279 --> 01:26:41,800
serial killer and it basically looks like a haerroneous bosh

1544
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:45,960
painting with like all kinds of weird like Chrollian effects

1545
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:50,439
to it. But in this there's this really specific scene

1546
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:52,479
when she walks into a big room it looks like

1547
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:54,439
an art gallery, and there's a cow there, like a

1548
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,079
live cow, And as she walks up to the cow,

1549
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:01,560
these glass plates fall from the and they slice the cow,

1550
01:27:02,039 --> 01:27:05,119
but they slice it in a way that it's perfectly preserved,

1551
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,880
and then they all spread out so you can like

1552
01:27:08,079 --> 01:27:11,039
walk between the sections of the cow and like she

1553
01:27:11,159 --> 01:27:14,079
sees the heart still beating and all these different slices. Well,

1554
01:27:14,159 --> 01:27:18,720
this is based on Damien Hurst's work and he is

1555
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:23,119
now known as United Kingdom's richest living artist estimated networth

1556
01:27:23,159 --> 01:27:26,640
of three hundred and eighty four million dollars. So again

1557
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:30,439
this is just he was the one that brought adrenochrome

1558
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,720
into the fine art world and you've probably seen his

1559
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:35,479
works in a lot of different capacities.

1560
01:27:36,079 --> 01:27:39,239
Speaker 2: Did Podesta have any of his works by any chance?

1561
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:46,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yah collected. So the one that bought the Adrenochrome painting,

1562
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,640
that one's never been revealed because it was a private purchase.

1563
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,920
But there are two or three different pieces from Damien

1564
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,920
Hurst that Podesta did collect. One of them is like

1565
01:27:56,000 --> 01:28:00,760
a world map that showed like the poison and missiles

1566
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:03,920
and like horrific events happening all over the world. That

1567
01:28:04,079 --> 01:28:06,399
was one of the that's one right there, the Last Supper,

1568
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,319
says the Last Supper. Yeah, this is one that was

1569
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:11,960
owned by the Podestas, and there was a there was

1570
01:28:12,119 --> 01:28:13,239
a couple others as well.

1571
01:28:14,399 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, so you see how this looks that connection,

1572
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:19,439
You see how this looks.

1573
01:28:21,279 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 3: Here's the scene from the cell. It's inverted because I've

1574
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:29,039
got like a weird like dark dark filter.

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01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 2: On and before you continue. So this is nineteen ninety nine,

1576
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:33,880
two thousand, we have Jlo. Of course, out of all

1577
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:40,119
people in there, is there any references to substances taken

1578
01:28:40,199 --> 01:28:44,279
by ancient peoples at all that refer to this sort

1579
01:28:44,319 --> 01:28:47,640
of adrenochrome like substance. Because we do have a lot

1580
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,079
of blood sacrifice throughout all of history, would that be

1581
01:28:50,159 --> 01:28:54,680
indicative of adrenochrome or some similar substance that would fall

1582
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:57,960
in line with these modern day beliefs prior to nineteen

1583
01:28:58,079 --> 01:28:59,760
twenty three or whatever it was that it started.

1584
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 3: We're getting there, so that's actually the crux of this presentation.

1585
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,520
Bear with me. We're gonna be there very shortly.

1586
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 2: This is crazy, dude.

1587
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 3: So to two thousand, We're gonna skip ahead another couple decades.

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01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:16,439
I have a civil list of every reference of adrenochrome

1589
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:20,800
in pop culture, TV shows, movies, music, artwork, everything. I'm

1590
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:24,439
just doing the highlights here. So from twenty to twenty twenty,

1591
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:29,520
there's this Bulgarian news report where they literally say that

1592
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:34,680
adrenochrome is extracted from children's brains. They mentioned that it

1593
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:39,079
is a satanic narcotic. They've got all sorts of references.

1594
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:43,680
The many that got me a strike on YouTube, by

1595
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:47,239
the way, is I just found this clip from Bulgarian

1596
01:29:47,319 --> 01:29:49,840
News on YouTube and then I put it on my video.

1597
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:52,880
Was it a copyright issue? It was just that they

1598
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:55,279
were talking about adrenochrome and it got taken down for

1599
01:29:55,560 --> 01:30:00,439
like violent hate speech or something. Da This is these

1600
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:04,079
are three separate instances. So twenty twenty, if you just

1601
01:30:04,199 --> 01:30:09,079
go and search for adrenochrome Bulgarian National Television, you'll see

1602
01:30:09,319 --> 01:30:13,000
this this segment, and it basically this guy gets into

1603
01:30:13,079 --> 01:30:16,640
a car crash and when they test his blood they

1604
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:18,960
find all these drugs in it. And then apparently there

1605
01:30:19,039 --> 01:30:21,199
was a rumor that got spread around that he had

1606
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,600
either a drenochrome in his blood, which would make sense

1607
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:28,840
because we all do, or that and or he had

1608
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:32,760
a massive sort of stash of a drenochrome with him

1609
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:37,479
in the car. And then this just turns into conspiracy theory.

1610
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:40,479
But it's on the Bulgarian News and they have none

1611
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:42,720
of the fact checking or any of the nuances that

1612
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:47,239
are great companies here like Meta and CNN and AOL

1613
01:30:47,359 --> 01:30:51,239
and you Twitter at the time all had so they're

1614
01:30:51,319 --> 01:30:54,720
just at they're just broadcasting all this information any I

1615
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:58,000
meanly citing things that came from fear and loathing in

1616
01:30:58,079 --> 01:31:01,560
Las Vegas as if it were scientific research. So it

1617
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:06,000
helps spiral this adrenochrome theory. But it also means that

1618
01:31:06,199 --> 01:31:10,800
now the adrenochrome conspiracy is well outside of US pop culture.

1619
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:14,000
Now it's worldwide. It hit Bulgaria. From there it gets

1620
01:31:14,039 --> 01:31:18,640
into the Russian disinformation factories and now it's everywhere. Two

1621
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:23,600
years later, there is a it's it's under the Daily

1622
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:27,199
Show with Trevor Noah, But really it was a separate

1623
01:31:27,399 --> 01:31:31,039
show that Jordan Klepper did. He's one of the correspondents

1624
01:31:31,079 --> 01:31:33,600
on The Daily Show, and he had like a like

1625
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:36,159
a video podcast series that he was doing because it

1626
01:31:36,279 --> 01:31:39,199
was during the pandemic and a lot of people were

1627
01:31:39,239 --> 01:31:41,119
doing like remote and they were you know, everyone had

1628
01:31:41,199 --> 01:31:44,359
like these weird like podcast shows because they couldn't actually

1629
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:47,560
go into the office anymore since they were all playing

1630
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:50,359
the game. Well, one of his was called Jordan Klepper's

1631
01:31:50,399 --> 01:31:54,399
Fingers Conspiracy, and this one particular episode he invites on

1632
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:58,960
these two quote unquote experts to talk about adrenochrome, and

1633
01:31:59,079 --> 01:32:02,840
they make a few claims that were patently false. So

1634
01:32:03,359 --> 01:32:07,159
one of the say in this interview is that you

1635
01:32:07,239 --> 01:32:10,680
can get it online. We've already talked about technically that's true,

1636
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:13,359
but it's not. It's not the kind that you would

1637
01:32:13,359 --> 01:32:15,800
actually do to give you these effects. So it's sort

1638
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:18,680
of disingenuous the way that they frame it. They also

1639
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:23,800
say this chick on the left, she says used for anything,

1640
01:32:24,119 --> 01:32:28,319
as in, there's no medicals for it at all. That's

1641
01:32:28,399 --> 01:32:31,119
also patently false. Some of the boring reasons is that

1642
01:32:31,239 --> 01:32:35,920
it's used to coagulate blood in surgery. They all use

1643
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:38,800
it in like an eye surgery. There's all sorts of

1644
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:43,800
legitimate uses they have it for. She also says some

1645
01:32:44,199 --> 01:32:48,039
use in the nineteen sixties to treat schizophrenia, but showed

1646
01:32:48,079 --> 01:32:52,159
no promise. That's also incorrect. The people were not taking

1647
01:32:52,239 --> 01:32:55,960
a drenochrome to treat schizophrenia. They were looking at a

1648
01:32:56,039 --> 01:32:59,760
drenochrome as a possible cause of schizophrenia. If anything, that

1649
01:33:00,079 --> 01:33:04,600
treatment would have been helping remove a drenochrome from your blood,

1650
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:07,159
not add more to it. So I think that it

1651
01:33:07,279 --> 01:33:10,479
was just misinform it just a list of like wrong statements.

1652
01:33:11,359 --> 01:33:14,960
Also said Huxley was the first to talk about it.

1653
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:19,359
Also false, as I already show that it was predated

1654
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:24,199
Huxley when all these different research papers and Huxley himself

1655
01:33:24,319 --> 01:33:27,279
was introduced through it by Humphrey Osmond. So that's false.

1656
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,720
And also acclaim that Terry Gilliam made it up, which

1657
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:34,159
is based on the director's commentary of Fear and Living

1658
01:33:34,199 --> 01:33:36,600
in Las Vegas, also false. So the Daily show what

1659
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:39,960
is a drenochrome? With these two experts, they just repeat

1660
01:33:40,079 --> 01:33:43,319
all of the incorrect information that I've come across over

1661
01:33:43,399 --> 01:33:46,199
and over again, and they sort of make that it's like,

1662
01:33:46,199 --> 01:33:49,920
all right, you know, the show's over. We've disproved the drenochrome.

1663
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:51,600
It's not a real thing, and even if it is,

1664
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:53,880
it doesn't have any uses, and even if it does

1665
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,279
have uses, and that no one cares about it. So

1666
01:33:57,319 --> 01:34:00,760
that was And then finally in twenty twenty four, because

1667
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:03,600
that's when I gave this was last year Joe that

1668
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:06,960
This is a screen cap from the TV show The Boys,

1669
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:09,960
which is on Amazon Prime, and on the ticker on

1670
01:34:10,039 --> 01:34:14,399
the bottom it says, does starlight drink a drenochrome? So

1671
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:18,920
now you've got like, you know, the most mainstream of

1672
01:34:19,279 --> 01:34:22,840
entertainment is talking about a drenochrome directly. It took a

1673
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,800
long time to get there because before all this it

1674
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,760
was basically fear loading in Las Vegas, one little scene

1675
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:31,840
that kind of went by as a blip. But fast

1676
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:36,399
forward another generation of thirty years. Now it's common knowledge now,

1677
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:40,000
Like you know, your kids that you're watching TV shows

1678
01:34:40,039 --> 01:34:42,520
with or that are watching the Daily Show all have

1679
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:43,880
this word in their vernacular.

1680
01:34:45,239 --> 01:34:48,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like I said, I think that most people,

1681
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:52,800
and I would say most people, probably conservative more than anything,

1682
01:34:53,039 --> 01:34:56,159
are the ones that are like super into this sort

1683
01:34:56,199 --> 01:35:00,279
of conspiracy that the elites are diddling little children and

1684
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:05,680
using them for the satanic abuse, to extract this sort

1685
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:06,359
of stuff from them.

1686
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 3: All right, now we're gonna now we're gonna go back

1687
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:13,079
in time, like a five thousand years or so. So

1688
01:35:13,239 --> 01:35:17,199
you were asking, like, oh, what are the historical stories

1689
01:35:17,279 --> 01:35:21,640
of Well, okay, so this is another kind. It reminds

1690
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:25,680
me of doctor Abramhoffer writing about how he's frustrated with

1691
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,760
all of his peers because they're like, n uh like

1692
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:31,560
the I'm not even studying this, but I just don't

1693
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:33,840
like what you're doing, so I'm gonna just say that

1694
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,359
you're making it up, or I'm just gonna disprove it

1695
01:35:36,399 --> 01:35:39,680
without doing any of their research. The same exact thing

1696
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:45,399
was happening up until the seventies, eighties, even nineties, is

1697
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:49,840
that there were all these stories about massive child sacrifice

1698
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:54,760
by all these ancient cultures. And up until the nineteen seventies,

1699
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,520
like prior to that, there were sort of two camps.

1700
01:35:57,560 --> 01:36:00,239
There was a fringe camp that was like, yeah, man,

1701
01:36:00,319 --> 01:36:03,800
all these cultures were just sacrificing kids by the hundreds,

1702
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:06,239
and they were torturing them and they were eating their

1703
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:10,319
bodies and drinking their blood, all this crazy vampiric stuff, right,

1704
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:14,600
And then you had the sane, rational modern science and

1705
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:18,920
medicine that were saying, no, those are crazy old wives tales.

1706
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,960
None of that happened. There's no proof or even humans

1707
01:36:22,079 --> 01:36:23,000
sacrifice at all.

1708
01:36:23,239 --> 01:36:25,199
Speaker 2: I've heard people dispute.

1709
01:36:25,279 --> 01:36:27,399
Speaker 3: Right, or that if it did happen, it was like

1710
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:30,000
that one time and no one ever did it again,

1711
01:36:30,199 --> 01:36:33,199
or it was just done by these weird fringe cultures

1712
01:36:33,239 --> 01:36:37,600
and it was never accepted by like mainstays of society.

1713
01:36:38,239 --> 01:36:44,199
Well around the nineteen seventies, eighties and nineties, they start

1714
01:36:44,399 --> 01:36:49,800
uncovering actual archaeological sites that unequivocally, beyond the shadow of

1715
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:54,520
a doubt, prove that they were sacrificing children in mass

1716
01:36:55,359 --> 01:36:58,680
and it wasn't just for sickness, and it wasn't just

1717
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:02,359
kids that at or stillborn's or any of those other

1718
01:37:03,319 --> 01:37:06,439
you know stories that usually are brought up to explain away.

1719
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:11,199
They have unequivocal examples of this. So here's one in Turkey.

1720
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:16,319
Ancient Mesopotamians may have sacrificed children as a show of powers.

1721
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:20,560
Came from CNNC notes true, but this is thirty one

1722
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:24,720
hundred BC. So here's one of the older instances that

1723
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:29,840
we've got of these these child sacrifice sites. Three thousand BC.

1724
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:35,319
We have this artwork here of a human sacrifice. This

1725
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:38,239
is actually cited as one of the oldest records of

1726
01:37:38,319 --> 01:37:43,039
human sacrifice in each region. So you've got this guy

1727
01:37:43,239 --> 01:37:48,359
on the left who is like sticking his hand through

1728
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:52,840
this other guy that's sitting down, and then another body

1729
01:37:53,039 --> 01:37:55,319
to the right of them, and then I believe that's

1730
01:37:55,399 --> 01:37:58,079
on the wall up here are supposed to be organs

1731
01:37:58,279 --> 01:38:03,199
or some other like chunks of human flesh. So this

1732
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:06,520
along with the context in which this was found that

1733
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:10,960
this has been cited as illustrated proof that they were

1734
01:38:11,039 --> 01:38:16,600
documenting human sacrifice. That we've got in Mayan culture twenty

1735
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:22,319
six hundred BC. Archaeologist ancient elite family ritual that words

1736
01:38:22,359 --> 01:38:26,520
in their elite family ritual may explain child sacrifice. An

1737
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:30,199
article from twenty twenty four. In Mayan culture, there was

1738
01:38:30,279 --> 01:38:33,199
something called I don't know how this is pronounced X

1739
01:38:34,159 --> 01:38:37,920
and kex is an exchange or a substitution of something.

1740
01:38:38,359 --> 01:38:43,840
Through kex, infants would substitute more powerful humans. It was

1741
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:47,439
thought that supernatural beings would consume the souls of more

1742
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:51,279
powerful humans, and infants were substituted in order to prevent that.

1743
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:54,920
For example, if you thought, I'm going to make a

1744
01:38:55,159 --> 01:38:57,359
overly simplistic version of this, but if you thought that

1745
01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:00,560
the demons were coming for you one because you're the king,

1746
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:03,119
or you know, like you're this amazing podcast or with

1747
01:39:03,239 --> 01:39:07,119
this huge following, so the demons are after you. If

1748
01:39:07,159 --> 01:39:10,359
you just sacrifice a kid, you're kind of you're like

1749
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,560
feeding them off. You gave them like a snacker granola

1750
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:15,880
bar to like fend them off for a little bit longer,

1751
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,399
so they don't come after you in particular. And as

1752
01:39:18,399 --> 01:39:21,239
long as you keep feeding them, these children, then they'll

1753
01:39:21,279 --> 01:39:23,359
stay off your back. You'll keep them sort of say,

1754
01:39:23,359 --> 01:39:26,720
sheeated fuck these kids. I don't care. So that so

1755
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:32,359
another just another version August four, Right, this is really

1756
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:35,159
when it was written. Yeah, that was written and published

1757
01:39:35,159 --> 01:39:37,439
on Newsweek. I did my best on these slides to

1758
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:41,560
pick the most normy of publications, so I wasn't pulling

1759
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:45,560
up like forty Times or like Info Wars. Right music,

1760
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:47,880
here's another one, Daily Mail. Maybe he's on the cuss

1761
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:51,199
but but this one has so many other articles across

1762
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:55,560
other publications. I just liked their headline the best. So

1763
01:39:56,399 --> 01:40:00,920
Inside the Mayans Bone written the Midnight Terror ca where

1764
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:04,960
scientists believed children were trafficked from hundreds of miles away

1765
01:40:05,079 --> 01:40:08,119
to be sacrificed to the gods. This sounds like a

1766
01:40:08,199 --> 01:40:12,319
frazzle trip plotline, right, You've got elite families that are

1767
01:40:12,399 --> 01:40:17,399
trafficking children across the country for sacrifice. Some of the highlights.

1768
01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:23,039
Midnight Terror Cave is located in Springfield in Belize. It

1769
01:40:23,159 --> 01:40:26,319
was discovered in two thousand and six. So again, this

1770
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:28,640
is one of those stories that people were telling for

1771
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:32,439
thousands of years and up until the seventies, eighties, nineties,

1772
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:36,159
in this case, not until the mid two thousands was

1773
01:40:36,239 --> 01:40:39,359
someone like, oh crap, maybe that was real. Look at

1774
01:40:39,399 --> 01:40:43,319
all these freaking bones in this terror cave. And then

1775
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:46,399
the reason why they know that they were sacrifice is

1776
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:51,279
because they had cut marks and injuries consistent with human sacrifice.

1777
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:54,600
The minds would sacrifice bodies, hearts, and blood to appease

1778
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:57,680
their gods. That's all known, and that the analysis of

1779
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:00,680
the teeth found at the site found that most of

1780
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:04,720
the remains were children aged between six and fourteen. So

1781
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:06,880
now if you add all these up together, you've got

1782
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:11,880
these pre pubescent children that are being trafficked by elite

1783
01:41:12,039 --> 01:41:16,439
families all across the country to be sacrificed in these

1784
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:20,800
secret underground rituals and terror caves. This is all none

1785
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:24,560
of that's conspiracy. These are all actual articles that really happened.

1786
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:28,039
Speaker 2: Well, you see, the history is ruled by the elites

1787
01:41:28,119 --> 01:41:30,079
and all that stuff, but I mean, this proves against them,

1788
01:41:30,119 --> 01:41:34,800
and that's why to me, the research of Amin Hillman,

1789
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:37,119
which I'm sure you've probably heard of him, where he

1790
01:41:37,199 --> 01:41:38,039
talks about.

1791
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 3: Where Jesus was like farming like kid drugs.

1792
01:41:41,199 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it kind of falls in line with what

1793
01:41:44,039 --> 01:41:47,239
the conspiracy is of today, where hey, they were into

1794
01:41:47,359 --> 01:41:49,399
kids and why were they Oh, because they were using

1795
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:52,159
them as drugs, right, And it's like, well, you can

1796
01:41:52,239 --> 01:41:54,680
kind of interpret that the same sort of way. Oh,

1797
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:58,119
the burning purple and the initiations and all this other stuff.

1798
01:41:58,119 --> 01:42:01,920
So it kind of plays into that mainstream narrative of

1799
01:42:02,079 --> 01:42:06,960
the conspiracy of the again, the elites using kids to

1800
01:42:07,119 --> 01:42:10,359
extract whatever it is that they were that they were doing.

1801
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:12,760
It's it's it's wild, dude.

1802
01:42:13,279 --> 01:42:16,520
Speaker 3: We'll keep inching closer in history because we're we're all

1803
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:20,520
we're still in like two thousand BC era ancient Sumeria

1804
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:24,800
at Er, I believe this is modern day Iraq. Ritual

1805
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:27,760
deaths were anything but serene. And then it has a

1806
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:31,560
CT scan that shows a female skull at a burial

1807
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:35,359
site in Er where they were basically buried with their

1808
01:42:35,399 --> 01:42:41,159
weapons and warriors. It's twenty four hundred BC. Is this

1809
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:46,920
concept of mulk or maleik or molok. So when people

1810
01:42:47,039 --> 01:42:49,680
get biblical with this and like, oh, you're there sacrificing

1811
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:52,920
their kids to malak or you know, the brazen bull,

1812
01:42:53,039 --> 01:42:59,239
and well, this is Canaanite, Phoenician culture, Carthaginian culture. And

1813
01:42:59,359 --> 01:43:01,479
the reason why this is important and it gets brought

1814
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:04,720
up is that it was state religion. This was not

1815
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:09,319
an underground, elite, secret society thing that only you know,

1816
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:12,359
like the few knew about. This happened all the time.

1817
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:14,760
Like this happened out in the middle. It'll be like

1818
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:17,239
if you went out and had to meet in downtown

1819
01:43:17,359 --> 01:43:19,680
of your area and once a month you got to

1820
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:21,520
bring a kid, or once a month you got an

1821
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:25,239
animal or something that it would it would happen like clockwork,

1822
01:43:25,319 --> 01:43:27,079
and it was done out in the open, and it

1823
01:43:27,199 --> 01:43:31,199
was followed by these massive sexual orgies. So like it

1824
01:43:31,319 --> 01:43:34,439
wasn't just like sacrifice day and then orgy day. A

1825
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:36,000
lot of the time it was like, all right, we

1826
01:43:36,039 --> 01:43:38,600
did the sacrifice here, now it time for the orgy

1827
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:43,000
to separate. And again like the whole frazzle drip thing

1828
01:43:43,039 --> 01:43:45,319
where they're like abusing kids and they're doing all kinds

1829
01:43:45,319 --> 01:43:48,560
of crazy things. This is just a retelling of what

1830
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:53,039
really was happening in Phoenician and Carthaginian culture, if you

1831
01:43:53,199 --> 01:43:57,640
believe the stories written about them from the victors, which

1832
01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:03,479
was mostly the Romans, but anyway, So this one could

1833
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:07,159
be its own talk. But essentially m l k a

1834
01:44:07,279 --> 01:44:09,800
funny acronym there if you were to just say out

1835
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:13,319
loud like get or word mulk. That's one of the

1836
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:15,920
ways that it gets passed around is the word mulk.

1837
01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:23,600
And this basically was a The actual practice of sacrificing

1838
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:26,920
a human being would be called mulk. So any god

1839
01:44:27,079 --> 01:44:29,439
that you did a mulk to means you're doing a

1840
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:34,479
human sacrifice. There's also the word malik, which means king

1841
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:38,680
or lord or god, kind of like ball. Like even

1842
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:42,039
people use the word ball to describe like a specific god,

1843
01:44:42,159 --> 01:44:46,239
but ball just meant lord of any kind, be like bias,

1844
01:44:46,319 --> 01:44:49,439
all bub was like lord of the flies, and like

1845
01:44:50,159 --> 01:44:52,960
like all these different versions of it. So it wasn't

1846
01:44:53,119 --> 01:44:56,920
just a god's name. But over time the phrase mulk

1847
01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:01,640
and malik mulk meaning a sacrif malik meaning a lord,

1848
01:45:02,239 --> 01:45:05,199
they get sort of conflated into the word molik, and

1849
01:45:05,399 --> 01:45:08,920
molk is quind of like this God of sacrifice is

1850
01:45:09,039 --> 01:45:13,199
just a personification of mulk and malik both combined.

1851
01:45:13,319 --> 01:45:18,239
Speaker 2: And that's where the where the the argument stands. Was

1852
01:45:18,319 --> 01:45:20,640
it a deity or was it an act? Right?

1853
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:23,159
Speaker 3: That's like the the answer is yes. It was like

1854
01:45:23,279 --> 01:45:26,680
all of the aboves yes. Because over time, like all

1855
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:30,520
these complicated systems with multiple gods, they get condensed down.

1856
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,439
That's why like modern religion, it's like, there's just one god. Now,

1857
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:36,840
we're just in monotheism now because it's way easier than

1858
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:40,199
memorizing like thousands of gods and the gods of certain acts.

1859
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Now there's just one god. You don't got to worry

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01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:44,279
about all these other ones. But back then you did

1861
01:45:44,399 --> 01:45:46,520
have to worry about all these other ones. And through

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01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:51,000
the slow process of syncretism, which is like cultures and

1863
01:45:51,119 --> 01:45:53,920
religions that are adopted in other parts of the world

1864
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and they turn into their own things. That's one of

1865
01:45:56,399 --> 01:46:00,319
the theories that Mulk and Malik turns into Molok, and

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that's where we get this bullheaded, two horned god of

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child sacrifice of Molik. He's an amalgamation of all these

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other more nuanced, very specific things. Then we've got twenty

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01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:16,880
two hundred in crete the Minoans, where we get the

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word minotaur, the Minoans and elite sacrifice. Even the entire

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premise of the Labyrinth with the minotaur in the Labyrinth,

1872
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this was imposed on the elite families of Athens, so

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once a year, depending on the stories that you read,

1874
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every four years, there's different time intervals, but there was

1875
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a very specific interval in which the elite families of

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Athens would have to bring their first born to the

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labyrinth and put their kids into this labyrinth to try

1878
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and to feed the minotaur. Chances are you put your

1879
01:46:49,239 --> 01:46:51,680
kid in that labyrinth, your kid's never coming back out.

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This is just another early form of child sacrifice. And

1881
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this is again archaeologist fine hint of cannibalism in crete,

1882
01:47:02,399 --> 01:47:06,279
and it says Athens, Greece archaeologists excavating a thirty four

1883
01:47:06,399 --> 01:47:09,760
hundred year old house at Nosis have unearthed a pile

1884
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:13,399
of bones that may indicate minoans of ancient crete eight

1885
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:18,119
children's flesh during bizarre religious ceremonies. You can look this up.

1886
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I won't read the entire article to you, but another

1887
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:27,159
example of our ancient ancestors, ancient Greeks that were literally

1888
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eating children as part of these rituals.

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Speaker 2: And they weren't elites, they weren't doing that for drenochrome.

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They were just having a good time.

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Speaker 3: You know, well, but having a good time. They just

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might not have realized why it made them have such

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a great time. A drenochrome could have been part of

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the chemical explanation on top of just the experience itself.

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And we're getting there, I promised, we're getting there slowly,

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bronze age, We've got Okay, here's the examples. Before you

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had balls of Fawn, which meant the lord of of fons.

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A fawn was a like a cave I believe in

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which Zeus was alleged to have been born, that he

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was born in the cave of Zafan. So Ball's a

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fon ends up becoming Zeus at a certain point, bal

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01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:19,039
Hammond becomes Saturn or Chronos, and then Ball's above meaning

1903
01:48:19,119 --> 01:48:23,239
lord of the flies, that becomes this, you know, lord

1904
01:48:23,279 --> 01:48:26,960
of the of the crap. And then even the Mendes

1905
01:48:27,039 --> 01:48:30,439
goat ball Mendes becomes Bapphamet. So these are all just

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01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:34,880
examples of how the word ball originally meant like a

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01:48:35,119 --> 01:48:38,920
certain title for a very specific deity, but over a

1908
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:42,119
long enough time period, ball just turns into like a

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01:48:42,319 --> 01:48:46,359
singular god. It just becomes this evil sort of demon

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01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:47,680
that's inside of the Bible.

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Speaker 2: Where does ball sack fall into that line?

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Speaker 3: Of exactly right somewhere above your chin and below your nose,

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I believe. And then Ball after he gets amalgamated because

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they got Zeus, they don't need balls of far because

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they got Zeus now, and they don't need ball Hammon

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because now they've got their own agricultural gods depending on

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the region you're from. So Ball literally starts sort of

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just like evaporating from vernacular. And this is one of

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my favorite topics. Again, another one that probably have its

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own hours of presentation, but of Tannate. Tannet was the

1921
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female consort of ball Hammon, and she ends up becoming

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the real substitute for Ball. So once the Carthaginians, because

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so you've got the Phoenicians, and the Phoenicians are really

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just the seafaring people that came from Canans. So the

1925
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Canaanites in the Bible are similar to what the Greeks

1926
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and the Romans would call the Phoenicians and the Phoenicians.

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Once they start losing their empire to Rome and to Greece,

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they start to concentrate in Carthage. Carthage is at the

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northern tip of Africa modern day Tunisia. So in this area,

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though they are basically doing the exact same human sacrifice

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that they were doing Tamolok and Taball, but now they're

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doing it to this chick Tant. And if you look,

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Tants symbol is basically a moon or a sun with

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a crescent moon on top, and then there's like this

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little like horizontal line on top of a pyramid. But

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as you see some of the other depictions, it starts

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to turn into like an all seeing eye on top

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of a pyramid. Yeah, I was gonna say so, there's

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not a lot of people that are saying it was

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an eye on top of a pyramid, but I'm just

1941
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looking at it and using my eyeballs, and I'm telling

1942
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you it's an eyeball on top of an all seeing

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eye on top of a pyramid. And this was the

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symbol of Tenant, which became the new symbol. This is

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aut like all of the Molok's sacrifice and all the

1946
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Ball sacrifice was sort of losing favor at least publicly.

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It gets put onto her and here we've got infant

1948
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burials at a carthage. Tafeit. Tafit is a specific term

1949
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for these sites where human sacrifice, more often than not

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child sacrifice was happening. So if you just search for carthage,

1951
01:51:24,039 --> 01:51:26,800
tapits or tafit of any kind, this will give you

1952
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these specific sites all across the world where they've proven

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01:51:31,159 --> 01:51:34,199
the child sacrifice were happening ritualistically.

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Speaker 2: Not a good look. Not a good look, as I'm

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gonna say, not a good look to it.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're when we made through a thousand years,

1957
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we've got another version of the Elmanati I think, which

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sounds like Illuminati confirmed them bones of newborn or unborn infants,

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some consuming of whole skeletons, dismembered femurs, and skull It

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was human sacrifice, and that each of the infant remains

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were subordinate to a rich burial of a wooden bust.

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So they would sacrifice kids and then they would bury

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sort of a wooden bust of that kid or of

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a god. So just another example that the humans didn't

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skip a beat like this. He fights and child sacrifice

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kept going for quite a while. This one comes up

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a lot. This is one of the craziest ones. The

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az Tech god of tears and of sympathetic magic. So

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this was the Aztec version of what the Phoenicians and

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01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:42,239
the Carthaginians were doing. And again the article from the

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ap April seventeen, two thousand and seven, evidence of sacrificed

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kids and the reason that modern day some people call

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01:52:50,359 --> 01:52:52,399
him the god of tears. I don't believe the Aztecs

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called him that was because one of the rituals was

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that he was also a fertility god and that if

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you needed rain for your crops and it wasn't raining,

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they would torture children, sometimes by pulling their fingernails out,

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and when the children started to cry, those tears were

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supposed to be representative of tears that the gods were

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going to make fall from the sky. So here you've

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got the as below so above sympathetic magic. If I

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make a kid cry, then God's gonna make an even

1983
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bigger kid cry and then we get rain for our crops.

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Speaker 2: How stupid do you have to be believe that?

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Speaker 3: Dude? Like, well, so this is one of those examples

1986
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of Okay, we've got these elites that are kidnapping and

1987
01:53:36,319 --> 01:53:39,840
torturing children and making them cry like they don't. They're

1988
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not just harvesting blood, but they need to torture them

1989
01:53:43,319 --> 01:53:47,159
before they sacrifice them for what In this context, would

1990
01:53:47,159 --> 01:53:50,119
be like an agricultural reason. But you can sort of

1991
01:53:50,199 --> 01:53:54,119
see that over another two thousand years plus change that

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01:53:54,359 --> 01:53:57,960
this could evolve into Okay, well we're not. We don't

1993
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:01,239
need the tears for agriculture. We need the tears because

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01:54:01,279 --> 01:54:03,680
it makes the dream crome more potent. But it's sort

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01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:08,520
of the same line that we can draw and then

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01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:11,119
we've got Okay, here's where we start to hit a

1997
01:54:11,239 --> 01:54:14,800
good fever pitch. These are all of the historical accounts

1998
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:19,560
of Phoenician child sacrifice. So this one's from the Catholic Encyclopedia,

1999
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and it said in sacrificing children of Molok, the Israelites

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01:54:24,239 --> 01:54:27,960
simply thought they were offering them in Holocaust to Yahweh,

2001
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:31,520
because holocaust also just means a burnt offering. So in

2002
01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:35,720
other words, the melic to whom child sacrifices were offered

2003
01:54:36,239 --> 01:54:40,640
was Yahweh under another name. What the Catholic Encyclopedia is

2004
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:45,199
basically saying is that even when the Israelites came out

2005
01:54:45,239 --> 01:54:49,960
of the wilderness and they ran into these other agricultural cults,

2006
01:54:50,159 --> 01:54:54,239
these Phoenicians and these Canaanites, the Canaanites and the Phoenicians,

2007
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:57,920
they were worshiping the exact same God as the Israelites.

2008
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:01,000
It's just that they were performing this mo ritual, and

2009
01:55:01,199 --> 01:55:05,079
that's what the Israelites were detesting. It wasn't that they

2010
01:55:05,119 --> 01:55:08,399
were saying, don't worship your god Molok, don't worship your

2011
01:55:08,439 --> 01:55:11,720
god ball. It was more like, stop doing Moluk, stop

2012
01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:15,359
doing Mulk, like, stop doing the sacrifices. You don't need

2013
01:55:15,439 --> 01:55:19,319
to do that to honor this god. I'm oversimplifying this

2014
01:55:19,479 --> 01:55:23,640
quite a bit, but this is the Catholic Encyclopedia reference

2015
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:26,840
of it. Here we've got some biblical quotes. So these

2016
01:55:26,920 --> 01:55:31,880
specific quotes come from maybe around sixth century BC, or

2017
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:37,000
maybe even fourteenth or fifteenth. So thou shalt not give

2018
01:55:37,159 --> 01:55:39,960
any of thy seed to set them apart to Molik.

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01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:45,600
That's Leviticus eighteen twenty one. Another one from Leviticus twenty

2020
01:55:46,199 --> 01:55:50,000
whoever giveth his seed unto Molok shall be put to death.

2021
01:55:50,119 --> 01:55:53,000
And if people hide their eyes from that man when

2022
01:55:53,079 --> 01:55:56,079
he giveth his seed into Molok and put him not

2023
01:55:56,279 --> 01:55:59,159
to death, then I will set my face against that

2024
01:55:59,319 --> 01:56:01,319
man again. And this is like if you know Hillary

2025
01:56:01,399 --> 01:56:04,199
Clinton is doing frazzle drip and you turn a blind

2026
01:56:04,239 --> 01:56:07,600
eye to it. God is angry at you too, even

2027
01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:10,760
though you're not the one that's actually doing it. Then

2028
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:15,760
in King's twenty three to ten, he defiled Topith, which

2029
01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:18,000
is in the valley of the son of Heinam, that

2030
01:56:18,279 --> 01:56:21,560
no man might make his son or daughter pass through

2031
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:24,640
the fire to Moloch. Passing through the fire to Molik

2032
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:28,560
means throwing your baby into this burning ritual pit, this

2033
01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:33,079
holocaust we're offering. Then in Jeremiah, they built the high

2034
01:56:33,159 --> 01:56:36,039
places of Ball set apart their sons and their daughters

2035
01:56:36,119 --> 01:56:39,880
onto Molok. Again, this is them building up these temples

2036
01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:43,000
to gods and then sacrificing their kids in this mulk ritual.

2037
01:56:43,399 --> 01:56:47,000
So we've got biblical quotes. Now we've got some non

2038
01:56:47,079 --> 01:56:52,239
biblical quotes. We've got Plato that says with us, for instance,

2039
01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:58,000
human sacrifice is not legal but unholy, whereas the Carthaginians

2040
01:56:58,079 --> 01:57:01,640
perform it as a thing they count holy and legal.

2041
01:57:02,279 --> 01:57:05,159
And that too when some of them sacrifice their own

2042
01:57:05,319 --> 01:57:09,239
sons to Chronos. So here there's a lot to unpack here.

2043
01:57:09,319 --> 01:57:12,399
But here we can see that Plato's not calling it ball,

2044
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:15,600
and he's not calling it Molok. He's calling it Chronos,

2045
01:57:16,039 --> 01:57:18,920
because that was what the god had evolved to at

2046
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:23,399
this point. And he's also saying that the Carthaginians perform

2047
01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:26,760
it as a thing theycount holy and legal, meaning they're

2048
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:29,399
doing this out in the public. They're making you do it.

2049
01:57:29,479 --> 01:57:33,720
They're forcing you to show up and bring a sacrifice

2050
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:36,760
with you, depending on where your role is in the society.

2051
01:57:37,239 --> 01:57:39,760
So this is Plato talking about this is around thirty

2052
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:40,359
eighty BC.

2053
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 2: Check out that last line. Dude's so conspira, as I

2054
01:57:44,119 --> 01:57:46,119
dare say, you yourself have heard.

2055
01:57:46,279 --> 01:57:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like saying, like, as we all know, right exactly, dude,

2056
01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:53,920
Like legend think that's a great point to point out,

2057
01:57:54,039 --> 01:57:56,560
is that this isn't some weird fringe thing that no

2058
01:57:56,640 --> 01:57:59,880
one had ever heard about, were seeing documented his star

2059
01:58:00,319 --> 01:58:04,039
archaeological record. Here's Plato even saying like, as you guys

2060
01:58:04,279 --> 01:58:07,560
know about these Carthaginians, and he's explaining that it was

2061
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:12,199
to Chronos, and he's explaining that it was their public religion,

2062
01:58:12,319 --> 01:58:18,199
not some underground secret siety cult. We've got, oh god Clotarkos.

2063
01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:22,920
And he says the Phoenicians and above all the Carthaginians

2064
01:58:23,479 --> 01:58:27,560
venerating Chronos whenever they were eager for something to succeed

2065
01:58:28,119 --> 01:58:30,840
made a vow by one of their children. If they

2066
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:34,479
received their desired things, they would sacrifice it to the god.

2067
01:58:35,079 --> 01:58:39,560
A bronze chronos erected by them stretched out upturned hands

2068
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:42,920
over a bronze oven to burn the child. The flame

2069
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:46,600
of the burning child reached its body, the limbs having

2070
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:49,800
shriveled up and a smiling mouth appearing to be laughing,

2071
01:58:50,239 --> 01:58:54,000
it would slip into the oven. Therefore, the grin is

2072
01:58:54,119 --> 01:58:57,880
called sardonic laughter since they die laughing.

2073
01:58:58,279 --> 01:59:01,960
Speaker 2: WHOA, I think this is where Pizza's originated.

2074
01:59:02,079 --> 01:59:06,159
Speaker 3: Dude, absolutely, and that's why we call it pizzagate. And

2075
01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:11,439
like sardonic humor and sardonic laughter, there's also images of

2076
01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:15,239
if you look up, like old Molloch towfit sacrifice. They

2077
01:59:15,239 --> 01:59:18,640
would put these masks on the children that had these

2078
01:59:18,720 --> 01:59:22,199
big smiling mouths on it, super creepy looking, and it

2079
01:59:22,359 --> 01:59:25,319
was because they didn't want to offend the gods. They

2080
01:59:25,359 --> 01:59:27,479
weren't like the Aztecs that were like, oh yeah, that

2081
01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:29,920
God wants these kids to be crying and stuff, that's

2082
01:59:29,960 --> 01:59:32,479
part of the magic here. They were afraid that if

2083
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:36,359
they gave their newborn kid up into the gods, and

2084
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:39,079
they were screaming, and they were like it would offend them.

2085
01:59:39,239 --> 01:59:41,680
So this is a way of like, don't pay attention

2086
01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:44,439
to the screaming kid. Look he's smiling for you. Everyone's

2087
01:59:44,439 --> 01:59:44,920
happy here.

2088
01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:47,039
Speaker 2: Yikes.

2089
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Speaker 3: All right, thirty BC, we're almost at JC. Jc's almost

2090
01:59:53,439 --> 01:59:57,119
on the scene, but we're still talking about Diodoro's Syklis.

2091
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:00,560
Cronos had turned against them as much as form times

2092
02:00:00,680 --> 02:00:04,159
as they had been accustomed to sacrifice the god the

2093
02:00:04,319 --> 02:00:09,000
noblest of their sons, but more recently they were secretly

2094
02:00:09,239 --> 02:00:13,880
buying and nurturing children and sent these to sacrifice. When

2095
02:00:13,880 --> 02:00:16,960
an investigation was made, some of those who had been

2096
02:00:17,039 --> 02:00:21,840
sacrificed were discovered to have been substituted by stealth. To

2097
02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:25,439
make amends for the emission, they selected two hundred of

2098
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:30,279
the noblest children and sacrificed them publicly. Others who were

2099
02:00:30,399 --> 02:00:35,600
under suspicion sacrificed themselves voluntarily, in numbers not less than

2100
02:00:35,720 --> 02:00:38,960
three hundred. And then it said that in the city

2101
02:00:39,159 --> 02:00:42,920
was a bronze image of Chronos extending its hands palms up,

2102
02:00:43,479 --> 02:00:46,399
sloping towards the ground, so that each of the children

2103
02:00:46,520 --> 02:00:49,640
placed thereon rolled down and fell into a gaping pit

2104
02:00:49,760 --> 02:00:52,920
filled with fire. Two really important things here. When is

2105
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:57,800
this reoccurring theme that they made an actual gigantic brazen

2106
02:00:57,960 --> 02:01:02,039
bull like this big bronze statf It wasn't just like

2107
02:01:02,199 --> 02:01:05,479
there for for like looks that you would actually light

2108
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:07,359
a fire in it, and you would put your kid

2109
02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:10,319
in the hands of the statue, and that they would

2110
02:01:10,479 --> 02:01:13,079
roll down. And in some retellings of this, it was

2111
02:01:13,119 --> 02:01:16,279
almost like mechanical, like you would put your kid into

2112
02:01:16,359 --> 02:01:18,800
the hands and the hands would like move around and

2113
02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:21,039
lift it up and dump it down a mouth like

2114
02:01:21,479 --> 02:01:24,800
it was a whole like disney World animatronic, sort of

2115
02:01:25,279 --> 02:01:28,680
like playground, the og disney World. This is the og

2116
02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:32,199
disney World. But you also this is the in my mind,

2117
02:01:32,239 --> 02:01:34,520
this is the most important part. He said that they

2118
02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:38,359
were accustomed to sacrificing to this god, the noblest of

2119
02:01:38,399 --> 02:01:40,880
their sons. So they're giving your the kid. This is

2120
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:44,680
like rumpel Stiltskin rolls right, your force burn kid God

2121
02:01:44,840 --> 02:01:47,880
like their god. This ball or this Moloch. He didn't

2122
02:01:47,960 --> 02:01:51,039
want like your third one out. He didn't want the

2123
02:01:51,119 --> 02:01:54,560
one that had all sorts of developmental issues. He didn't

2124
02:01:54,640 --> 02:01:59,039
want the one that like lost his leg and something accident,

2125
02:01:59,159 --> 02:02:03,520
right he wants to. He wanted the best that you

2126
02:02:03,680 --> 02:02:07,039
had to offer. And over time, these elite families they

2127
02:02:07,039 --> 02:02:10,079
were like, well, I can afford to just have you know,

2128
02:02:10,279 --> 02:02:13,800
some peasant woman. I'll impregnate her, will raise well, like

2129
02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:16,840
I'll raise that baby, but that baby is being raised

2130
02:02:17,079 --> 02:02:19,479
just to be a sacrifice, so I don't have to

2131
02:02:19,560 --> 02:02:26,640
sacrifice like my quarterback, all star. You know that, dude, absolutely,

2132
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:32,720
And that during the downfall of the Phoenician Empire and Carthage,

2133
02:02:33,119 --> 02:02:37,520
a lot of the advocates of this, this this molk practice,

2134
02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:39,920
they were blaming it on people for doing that. They

2135
02:02:39,960 --> 02:02:42,760
were saying, like, look, guys, the reason why our society

2136
02:02:42,840 --> 02:02:45,479
is in decline is because you keep giving us all

2137
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:48,840
your scraps, Like we don't want you to sacrifice your scraps.

2138
02:02:49,279 --> 02:02:51,920
We need you to sacrifice like the best your family

2139
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:56,000
has to offer, because this, again is a sympathetic magic

2140
02:02:56,239 --> 02:02:59,199
transference and saying like, look at what I'm willing to

2141
02:02:59,319 --> 02:03:02,479
give up in order for God to give me something

2142
02:03:02,600 --> 02:03:05,239
in return, to get those crops, to get the rain,

2143
02:03:05,359 --> 02:03:08,960
to get whatever. But if God realizes like dude, you're

2144
02:03:09,119 --> 02:03:12,239
just like humping and dumping, like you know, these street

2145
02:03:12,399 --> 02:03:15,359
urchins and then once they pop out a kid that's

2146
02:03:15,399 --> 02:03:18,000
got like, you know, a third ear or something, you

2147
02:03:18,159 --> 02:03:20,039
throw them into the fire and you're like, oh god,

2148
02:03:20,079 --> 02:03:22,720
here's my offering here. Look, this is how much I'm

2149
02:03:22,760 --> 02:03:25,119
worth to you. So then the gods like, I don't

2150
02:03:25,159 --> 02:03:28,199
want your scraps, and because of that, I'm now offended,

2151
02:03:28,319 --> 02:03:31,239
and now you're gonna lose every war that you run

2152
02:03:31,279 --> 02:03:35,520
into against the Romans. I'm oversimplifying that, but that was

2153
02:03:35,600 --> 02:03:39,199
the basic premise, is that they fell, their civilization fell

2154
02:03:39,319 --> 02:03:42,000
because they were no longer giving like the cream of

2155
02:03:42,039 --> 02:03:43,920
the crop in these sacrifices.

2156
02:03:46,359 --> 02:03:50,399
Speaker 2: And it's just to play devil's advocate here for a second.

2157
02:03:50,439 --> 02:03:52,279
We got to understand too, that a lot of these

2158
02:03:52,279 --> 02:03:54,920
people writing about these other people were the winners, right,

2159
02:03:55,079 --> 02:03:59,600
because the Deodorus Sichlis, he was like a historian from

2160
02:03:59,680 --> 02:04:03,239
Sis and he's best known fighting on the history right

2161
02:04:03,279 --> 02:04:06,479
the Mediterranean region from mythical times to his own lifetime.

2162
02:04:07,119 --> 02:04:12,199
So technically it's like the Church writing about the Gnostics, right,

2163
02:04:12,359 --> 02:04:14,039
I'm sure the Gnostics are going to fall in here

2164
02:04:14,119 --> 02:04:15,079
somewhere with the Nastics.

2165
02:04:15,439 --> 02:04:19,159
Speaker 3: And this line of reasoning is also the main reason

2166
02:04:19,359 --> 02:04:23,079
that until the seventies, eighties, nineties that most of conventional

2167
02:04:23,800 --> 02:04:27,199
archaeology and history were like that didn't really happen. This

2168
02:04:27,399 --> 02:04:30,520
is just because the victors wrote all this crazy stuff

2169
02:04:30,720 --> 02:04:34,279
to make finding these sites. And they're like, as far

2170
02:04:34,359 --> 02:04:37,000
as I know, they haven't found one of these mechanical

2171
02:04:37,159 --> 02:04:40,439
Moloch bronze bulls that like does all this stuff. Doesn't

2172
02:04:40,439 --> 02:04:42,359
mean it's not out there though, where like, we're literally

2173
02:04:42,439 --> 02:04:45,399
still finding some of these sites, you know, as recent

2174
02:04:45,560 --> 02:04:49,399
is like one or two years ago. Okay, another version

2175
02:04:50,039 --> 02:04:53,600
fifty a D. Now we're beyond JC and they're talking

2176
02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:57,159
about offering a freeborn boy to Saturn. So now and

2177
02:04:57,359 --> 02:05:01,880
talking about the Carthaginians where perform until the destruction of

2178
02:05:01,920 --> 02:05:06,600
their city. So here's a link that this sacrificing your

2179
02:05:06,640 --> 02:05:10,479
kids to Crono sort of Saturn or to ball or Molloch.

2180
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:15,119
This declines as soon as the Carthaginians are wiped off

2181
02:05:15,199 --> 02:05:18,079
of the map, which is literally what happens. We've got

2182
02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:22,119
Plutarch and eighty a D. This is going morning. What

2183
02:05:22,159 --> 02:05:25,760
I was just saying, with full knowledge and understanding, they

2184
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:29,600
offered up their own children, and those who had no

2185
02:05:29,920 --> 02:05:33,640
children would buy little ones from poor people and cut

2186
02:05:33,720 --> 02:05:38,399
their throats as if there were many lambs or young birds. Meanwhile,

2187
02:05:38,479 --> 02:05:41,359
the mother stood by without a tear or moan. Should

2188
02:05:41,439 --> 02:05:45,319
she utter a single moan or let fall a single tear,

2189
02:05:45,880 --> 02:05:50,000
she had to forfeit the money, and her child was sacrificed. Nonetheless,

2190
02:05:50,520 --> 02:05:53,880
So you would find some poor family and be like, hey,

2191
02:05:53,920 --> 02:05:56,159
we'll give you one hundred bucks if we can sacrifice

2192
02:05:56,279 --> 02:05:58,960
your kid, so I don't have to sacrifice my kid

2193
02:05:59,039 --> 02:06:02,199
at the altar. But then the mom that you're paying

2194
02:06:02,239 --> 02:06:05,079
the hundred bucks to, she's got to watch this and

2195
02:06:05,199 --> 02:06:08,920
she has to stay neutral. She can't frown, she can't scream,

2196
02:06:09,399 --> 02:06:12,520
she can't cry, none of that. Otherwise you're like, oh,

2197
02:06:12,560 --> 02:06:15,880
I'll take the one hundred dollars back now, like noll

2198
02:06:15,960 --> 02:06:18,920
and void, and she still loses her kid. So again,

2199
02:06:19,039 --> 02:06:22,000
this is a nod to like those smiling masks and

2200
02:06:22,079 --> 02:06:24,640
that sardonic laughter they were talking about. And it also

2201
02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:28,319
said the whole area before the statue was filled with

2202
02:06:28,479 --> 02:06:32,239
loud noises of flutes and drums, so the cries of

2203
02:06:32,279 --> 02:06:34,479
the whaling should not reach the ears of the people.

2204
02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:36,800
So they were also trying to hide it from the

2205
02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:39,680
massive audience because it was done in public. They didn't

2206
02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:43,439
want everyone hearing babies scream, fuck up, shut up.

2207
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:47,760
Speaker 2: You know, just fucking telling. And by the way, just

2208
02:06:47,800 --> 02:06:49,760
to add some context of this, because I think this

2209
02:06:49,840 --> 02:06:52,479
is important, right and again plain Devil's advocate. They're writing

2210
02:06:52,560 --> 02:06:55,880
about peoples that were essentially what seven hundred something years

2211
02:06:55,920 --> 02:07:03,840
before them, right, the car Carthage, Right, so Carthaginians. Yeah, Carthaginians.

2212
02:07:03,880 --> 02:07:07,319
It was way way before them. Similar to how if

2213
02:07:07,359 --> 02:07:10,479
we write about the mind or something, it's thousands of

2214
02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:11,039
years ago.

2215
02:07:11,720 --> 02:07:14,479
Speaker 3: Correct. And the point being here though, is that no

2216
02:07:14,600 --> 02:07:17,840
one ever stopped talking about this. This said, like we're

2217
02:07:17,920 --> 02:07:23,319
showing yeah, sixth century BC, fourth century BC, third century one,

2218
02:07:23,560 --> 02:07:27,079
you know, ten BC, the city on them. They're they're

2219
02:07:27,159 --> 02:07:33,520
constantly talking about Tertullian one AD in Africa and again Africa,

2220
02:07:33,760 --> 02:07:37,079
that the top of Africa was to is Tunisia today

2221
02:07:37,840 --> 02:07:42,520
was old Carthage in Africa, infants used to be sacrificed

2222
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:47,600
to Saturn quite openly. Uh, Tiberius took the priests themselves

2223
02:07:47,680 --> 02:07:50,039
and on the very trees of the temple, under the

2224
02:07:50,119 --> 02:07:52,720
shadow of their crimes had been committed, hung them like

2225
02:07:52,920 --> 02:07:56,680
votive offerings on crosses, and the soldiers of my own

2226
02:07:56,840 --> 02:07:59,960
country are witnessed to it, who serve that pre count

2227
02:08:00,359 --> 02:08:03,760
in that very task. Yes, and to this day that

2228
02:08:03,960 --> 02:08:08,319
holy crime persists in secret. So here you got someone

2229
02:08:08,359 --> 02:08:11,359
that's saying, this is not me writing about something that

2230
02:08:11,399 --> 02:08:15,000
happened hundred years ago, that my soldiers went to the

2231
02:08:15,159 --> 02:08:18,880
same area, the same kar modern dy Carthage in two

2232
02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:22,079
hundred a d. And was still finding people, not doing

2233
02:08:22,119 --> 02:08:24,560
it in public, but doing it in secret. But the

2234
02:08:24,680 --> 02:08:27,439
exact same practice that we heard Plato talking about.

2235
02:08:28,520 --> 02:08:32,479
Speaker 2: And Tertullian, the first diologian to write in Latin, the

2236
02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:35,000
father of Latin Christianity as well as the founder of

2237
02:08:35,079 --> 02:08:37,199
Western theology. Just throwing that out there.

2238
02:08:38,079 --> 02:08:42,399
Speaker 3: And for some geographic context too, the reason why Carthage

2239
02:08:42,479 --> 02:08:45,640
is so important. You've got I've got a little map here,

2240
02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:49,399
but Carthage is on the very northern tip of Africa

2241
02:08:50,079 --> 02:08:54,359
and it's basically directly across from Sicily. So anyone that

2242
02:08:54,760 --> 02:09:00,199
controlled this area, whoever controlled Carthage, essentially controlled any one

2243
02:09:00,399 --> 02:09:05,319
passing through the Mediterranean Sea across Sicily. And this also

2244
02:09:05,399 --> 02:09:10,560
made the Sicilians. They have lots of this Carthaginian Phoenician

2245
02:09:10,640 --> 02:09:16,920
culture in Sicily because Sicily became this highly contested military spot.

2246
02:09:16,960 --> 02:09:20,520
It was very strategic to have control over Carthage and

2247
02:09:20,600 --> 02:09:21,640
over Sicily.

2248
02:09:22,199 --> 02:09:24,960
Speaker 2: Which the Phoenicians are important too, right because they were

2249
02:09:25,119 --> 02:09:27,159
what twenty five OHO one BC.

2250
02:09:28,079 --> 02:09:30,520
Speaker 3: Right well, that the Phoenicians would just refer to any

2251
02:09:30,600 --> 02:09:34,399
of the seafaring people that kind of came from the

2252
02:09:35,479 --> 02:09:38,760
Canon or that area that made their way all the

2253
02:09:38,800 --> 02:09:41,439
way over to the Iberian Peninsula, like this entire area

2254
02:09:42,039 --> 02:09:45,399
all around the edges of the Mediterranean Sea were technically

2255
02:09:45,680 --> 02:09:50,720
Phoenicians at some point, while Carthaginians they were literally just

2256
02:09:50,880 --> 02:09:54,880
here in Carthage. And Carthage became the new capital of

2257
02:09:55,000 --> 02:09:59,720
the Phoenicians once the Canan basically falls out of favor

2258
02:09:59,760 --> 02:10:03,800
and they lose their their culture over time. It fascinating history,

2259
02:10:04,159 --> 02:10:08,279
or we'll keep it going four hundred AD Polus Osiris

2260
02:10:08,760 --> 02:10:14,039
Eurosius Paulus Erosius. Carthage was founded by d Dao seventy

2261
02:10:14,079 --> 02:10:18,159
two years before the founding of Rome. The Carthaginians had

2262
02:10:18,239 --> 02:10:22,079
always had domestic and internal misfortunes. When they were suffering

2263
02:10:22,159 --> 02:10:26,479
from plagues, they resorted to the homicides instead of medicines,

2264
02:10:26,880 --> 02:10:30,520
and they sacrificed human beings as victims and offered young

2265
02:10:30,640 --> 02:10:34,239
children at their altars, and this way they aroused even

2266
02:10:34,279 --> 02:10:38,479
the pity of the enemy. So another version here we

2267
02:10:38,520 --> 02:10:42,960
ask trees against histories against the Pagans. So it's a

2268
02:10:43,000 --> 02:10:47,600
little bit loaded there, oh bias. Okay, here's where we're

2269
02:10:47,600 --> 02:10:50,880
gonna get freaking way crazy. And I don't I haven't

2270
02:10:50,880 --> 02:10:52,800
seen anyone bring this up in any of their other

2271
02:10:52,920 --> 02:10:56,199
talks about Samerian culture and all this. So this was

2272
02:10:56,239 --> 02:10:59,399
an Egyptian famine of the year twelve oh one AD.

2273
02:11:00,159 --> 02:11:03,199
And in this guy, this guy is writing a diary

2274
02:11:03,840 --> 02:11:06,800
while this Egyptian famine is happening, So he writes it

2275
02:11:06,880 --> 02:11:10,199
in the year twelve oh one Abd a Latif, and

2276
02:11:10,319 --> 02:11:15,800
he writes at Atfi, a grocery store was found to

2277
02:11:15,920 --> 02:11:20,279
contain jars full of human flesh pickled in water and salt.

2278
02:11:21,039 --> 02:11:24,199
It happened one night that a young slave girl was

2279
02:11:24,319 --> 02:11:27,520
playing with a newly weaned infant, the child of a

2280
02:11:27,720 --> 02:11:31,319
rich private citizen. While the child was by her side,

2281
02:11:31,800 --> 02:11:35,479
a beggar woman sees that very moment, when the slave's

2282
02:11:35,520 --> 02:11:39,439
eyes were turned away, tore open the child's stomach and

2283
02:11:39,560 --> 02:11:44,680
began to eat the flip raw and then it says,

2284
02:11:44,840 --> 02:11:49,640
there's another quote from this guy's diary, rich people in

2285
02:11:49,960 --> 02:11:55,319
decent circumstance also shared in this detestable barbarism and did

2286
02:11:55,359 --> 02:11:58,359
it out of greed and to satisfy a taste for it.

2287
02:11:58,800 --> 02:12:00,239
So this is going to bring us all the way

2288
02:12:00,279 --> 02:12:02,000
back to the frazzle drip and when I was talking

2289
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:04,760
about the amuse boosh and why would you go through

2290
02:12:04,840 --> 02:12:07,079
all of this. Here's a guy in twelve oh one

2291
02:12:07,199 --> 02:12:11,399
that's saying that, yes, people were openly eating children in public.

2292
02:12:11,520 --> 02:12:15,640
They were serving human remains in grocery stores because of

2293
02:12:15,720 --> 02:12:19,000
a famine that no one could afford to get or

2294
02:12:19,039 --> 02:12:22,199
even find meat or crops or any other normal way

2295
02:12:22,319 --> 02:12:25,239
they would survive, so they had to resort to cannibalism

2296
02:12:25,319 --> 02:12:29,119
and mass Yet there were rich people that could afford

2297
02:12:29,359 --> 02:12:32,079
regular food. But they were like, well, hell if all

2298
02:12:32,199 --> 02:12:35,399
these poor people are just eating you know, infants out

2299
02:12:35,439 --> 02:12:37,760
in public, I guess this is our time to shine,

2300
02:12:37,880 --> 02:12:40,159
Like we can do it without batting an eye. So

2301
02:12:40,399 --> 02:12:43,920
this is a historical document, whether or not you want

2302
02:12:43,960 --> 02:12:45,920
to believe it's true. But this guy was writing in

2303
02:12:45,960 --> 02:12:48,880
twelve oh one saying that rich people were eating children

2304
02:12:49,000 --> 02:12:49,920
because they wanted to.

2305
02:12:50,279 --> 02:12:54,640
Speaker 2: And this guy was again a physician, philosopher, historian, Arabic

2306
02:12:54,880 --> 02:12:59,159
Grammarian traveler, and one of the most volaminous, voluminous writers

2307
02:12:59,239 --> 02:13:03,359
of his time. This is eleven sixty two and yeah,

2308
02:13:03,439 --> 02:13:05,720
born in Baghdad, Iraq. And I love how he says

2309
02:13:06,479 --> 02:13:08,880
began to eat the flesh quite raw. Yeah, no shit,

2310
02:13:10,039 --> 02:13:11,840
how else would you eat it? You know? Like?

2311
02:13:13,680 --> 02:13:19,039
Speaker 3: Okay? Fourteen twenty eight, here's another account. This is Johannes

2312
02:13:19,079 --> 02:13:21,760
Fround and the Valley of Valais. I'm probably mispronouncing all

2313
02:13:21,840 --> 02:13:26,239
of that, but he said that, according to his account,

2314
02:13:26,319 --> 02:13:30,920
there were victims accused of murder, heresies, sorcery, being impacts

2315
02:13:30,960 --> 02:13:33,720
with the devil, and they were paying tribute to the devil,

2316
02:13:33,800 --> 02:13:36,279
who appeared as a black animal like a bear or

2317
02:13:36,359 --> 02:13:39,720
a ram, and the devil asked his followers to avoid

2318
02:13:39,880 --> 02:13:42,920
holy mass and confession. He said that some of the

2319
02:13:43,039 --> 02:13:47,880
accused were tortured to death without issuing confession, while others

2320
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:55,880
confessed a variety of evil deeds such as causing lameness, blindness, madness, miscarriage, impotence, infertility,

2321
02:13:56,359 --> 02:13:59,880
and killing and eating their own children. Here's another example

2322
02:14:00,199 --> 02:14:04,079
fourteen twenty eight of a historical account of people that

2323
02:14:04,159 --> 02:14:08,000
were killing and eating their own children, according to this guy,

2324
02:14:08,720 --> 02:14:13,159
Johannes Frond, nineteen sixty eight. So here, remember, I will

2325
02:14:13,159 --> 02:14:14,840
say before like no one even believed any of this

2326
02:14:15,000 --> 02:14:17,319
was happening until like the seventies. This is one of

2327
02:14:17,359 --> 02:14:21,439
the very first versions of it. Nineteen sixty eight the

2328
02:14:22,000 --> 02:14:24,520
book called The Life and Death of Carthage by Gilbert

2329
02:14:24,600 --> 02:14:29,279
and Colette Picard, and they talked about that around these

2330
02:14:29,399 --> 02:14:33,000
statues of bal Hammond they would dig these fires or

2331
02:14:33,039 --> 02:14:37,159
these tafits, and that it was surrounded by musicians and dancers.

2332
02:14:37,640 --> 02:14:40,359
A priest would bring a child dedicated to the god

2333
02:14:40,600 --> 02:14:43,920
already killed according to secret rites, and lay him in

2334
02:14:43,960 --> 02:14:48,079
the statue's arms, where he would roll into the flames. Flutes,

2335
02:14:48,199 --> 02:14:52,560
tambourines and lears would drown the cries of the parents,

2336
02:14:52,640 --> 02:14:55,680
who led the dancers into a wild dance. There was

2337
02:14:55,760 --> 02:14:59,880
in fact a taboo which sends to see cry out

2338
02:15:00,159 --> 02:15:02,840
or listen for the child. We mentioned all this before,

2339
02:15:02,880 --> 02:15:05,119
already this is like you gotta do this, you can't

2340
02:15:05,159 --> 02:15:07,760
even cry about it. And they wore these terra cotta

2341
02:15:07,920 --> 02:15:11,439
masks which showed these like big smiles because they weren't

2342
02:15:11,479 --> 02:15:15,800
allowed to actually offend the god during this process. So

2343
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:19,520
this was very controversial. When this came out in nineteen

2344
02:15:19,600 --> 02:15:23,079
sixty eight, heavily debated. A lot of people were like, Oh,

2345
02:15:23,199 --> 02:15:26,479
this is just nonsense. This is Roman history. You know,

2346
02:15:26,680 --> 02:15:29,560
Victor's writing the record and that who knows what the

2347
02:15:29,640 --> 02:15:32,640
Carthaginians really did. So this this is one of the

2348
02:15:32,760 --> 02:15:37,840
earliest examples in like modern studies that kind of pointed

2349
02:15:37,920 --> 02:15:38,279
to all this.

2350
02:15:39,239 --> 02:15:44,600
Speaker 2: Are there any references to Juno chrome in Eyes Wine, Chuck, No,

2351
02:15:45,079 --> 02:15:48,720
I don't believe so. No, remind me of that, you

2352
02:15:48,800 --> 02:15:49,720
know in the whole ser.

2353
02:15:50,439 --> 02:15:53,680
Speaker 3: No, but they do. That movie is arguably about child

2354
02:15:53,760 --> 02:15:57,079
abduction because the it's about the family they give up

2355
02:15:57,119 --> 02:16:00,359
their daughter that gets taken away by these elite in

2356
02:16:00,600 --> 02:16:03,600
order for him to get access to this secret society.

2357
02:16:04,840 --> 02:16:09,239
So we're starting to come full round. We mentioned Elizabeth

2358
02:16:09,319 --> 02:16:12,800
Bathrie before he went into this wild historical tangent to

2359
02:16:12,960 --> 02:16:18,319
Marina Abramovic, it's basically the same concept. You've got spirit

2360
02:16:18,399 --> 02:16:21,319
cooking right where you've got like these Hollywood they're making

2361
02:16:21,439 --> 02:16:26,079
like this big performative art around it. In the pictures. Here,

2362
02:16:26,119 --> 02:16:30,119
you've got Lady Gaga, you've got Gwen Stefani is in

2363
02:16:30,199 --> 02:16:34,040
one of those. Here, okay, here's one of the Clinton emails.

2364
02:16:35,440 --> 02:16:36,639
Is that all things are going to have to come

2365
02:16:36,680 --> 02:16:39,799
back to either Huxley or Clinton. So the one particular

2366
02:16:39,920 --> 02:16:43,159
message this is email number one five eight nine three

2367
02:16:43,239 --> 02:16:46,159
if you want to check my receipts. And this was

2368
02:16:46,280 --> 02:16:50,280
sent from Marina Abramovic to Tony Podesta, and it said,

2369
02:16:50,920 --> 02:16:53,399
I am so looking forward to the spirit cooking dinner

2370
02:16:53,440 --> 02:16:55,680
at my place. Do you think you'll be able to

2371
02:16:55,760 --> 02:16:58,399
let me know if your brother is joining. This is

2372
02:16:58,479 --> 02:17:01,479
immediately followed by an email from Tony Podesta to his

2373
02:17:01,600 --> 02:17:04,280
brother John that says, hey, are you in New York

2374
02:17:04,360 --> 02:17:09,879
City Thursday, July ninth? Marina wants so here we've got

2375
02:17:10,440 --> 02:17:16,120
blood sacrifice rituals, maybe artsy versions of it, and these

2376
02:17:16,159 --> 02:17:21,040
elite societies, these elite families are corresponding and doing somewhat

2377
02:17:21,079 --> 02:17:25,040
similar practices, even if it's just performative. It is the

2378
02:17:25,200 --> 02:17:28,159
closest correlation that we've got into, like modern day version

2379
02:17:28,200 --> 02:17:31,719
of this. Great time to bring up the Podesta art collection.

2380
02:17:31,879 --> 02:17:37,120
We already mentioned Damien Hurst, who made the adrinachrome. He's

2381
02:17:37,239 --> 02:17:39,600
also a name that shows up in the Podesta Art collection.

2382
02:17:40,239 --> 02:17:44,600
You've got this sculpture from Luis Bourgeois, which should get

2383
02:17:44,719 --> 02:17:50,239
cited as the final position of some of Jeffrey Dahmer's victims.

2384
02:17:50,280 --> 02:17:54,360
They would like arch their back up and turn weird. Well,

2385
02:17:54,440 --> 02:18:00,520
that was from this painting. From the sculpture from Louis Bourgeois,

2386
02:18:00,559 --> 02:18:03,239
that's the actual one that Podessa's got in his house there,

2387
02:18:04,239 --> 02:18:09,000
and she based that on these these premises of schizophrenia

2388
02:18:09,280 --> 02:18:14,600
and of like people going through these weird neurological disorders

2389
02:18:14,639 --> 02:18:18,280
that had been documented since the medieval ages. Well, that

2390
02:18:18,680 --> 02:18:22,799
is basically dementia precox. It's it's tangential, the same thing

2391
02:18:22,920 --> 02:18:25,719
the Scottish Rite ends up looking into in the nineteen thirties.

2392
02:18:26,719 --> 02:18:30,399
We've also got a painting that is owned by I

2393
02:18:30,520 --> 02:18:34,000
believe Tony or John Podesta. It's called We're Bringing an

2394
02:18:34,040 --> 02:18:36,600
Old Friend over for Dinner, and it has these two

2395
02:18:36,760 --> 02:18:40,680
guys literally eating the body of another guy that's laying

2396
02:18:40,719 --> 02:18:44,399
down on a slab. And then you've got even creepier stuff.

2397
02:18:44,479 --> 02:18:48,559
I can't remember how to pronounce your name, Bil Hannah Jerjovek.

2398
02:18:48,959 --> 02:18:51,479
That's like all these kids that are like bound and

2399
02:18:51,639 --> 02:18:53,840
tied and have like Weltz on them and they're crying

2400
02:18:53,879 --> 02:18:54,600
and stuff.

2401
02:18:54,639 --> 02:18:56,959
Speaker 2: And red bottoms which.

2402
02:18:56,799 --> 02:18:59,680
Speaker 3: Is red butt cheeks. Yeah, this is just a small

2403
02:19:00,399 --> 02:19:02,760
of the Podesta art Colutch, just normal stuff that you

2404
02:19:02,760 --> 02:19:03,719
would have. Yeah.

2405
02:19:03,760 --> 02:19:05,719
Speaker 2: Who looks at the sort of stuff and goes, man,

2406
02:19:05,760 --> 02:19:08,200
I want that right up in the entrance of my house.

2407
02:19:08,239 --> 02:19:09,000
That's beautiful.

2408
02:19:09,120 --> 02:19:11,600
Speaker 3: How much is that? How many millions worth? Every penny?

2409
02:19:12,440 --> 02:19:12,920
Two of them?

2410
02:19:13,239 --> 02:19:13,440
Speaker 2: Right?

2411
02:19:14,399 --> 02:19:17,360
Speaker 3: Okay, here's where pizzagate starts to come into this hole

2412
02:19:17,360 --> 02:19:20,639
Adrina Chrome Child's sacrifice, Like it's all this one big bubble.

2413
02:19:20,639 --> 02:19:24,440
Speaker 2: We're starting to By the way, the guy who shot

2414
02:19:24,520 --> 02:19:27,559
up Comet Peak Ping Pong or whatever Comet pizza he just.

2415
02:19:27,680 --> 02:19:32,440
Speaker 3: Recently got merked, right, Yeah, he got pulled over by

2416
02:19:32,479 --> 02:19:36,280
a cop. He brandished a weapon allegedly, and now we'll

2417
02:19:36,319 --> 02:19:39,319
never hear from that guy again. Yep, that same guy.

2418
02:19:39,520 --> 02:19:43,319
Very topical, by the way, that same guy. This is

2419
02:19:43,479 --> 02:19:46,280
all based on another one of these emails, and the

2420
02:19:46,440 --> 02:19:51,239
email this is all it says, the realtor found a handkerchief.

2421
02:19:51,840 --> 02:19:54,559
I think it has a map that seems pizza related.

2422
02:19:55,000 --> 02:19:58,440
Is it yours? That's that's where all of the pizzagate

2423
02:19:58,639 --> 02:20:02,040
And I would argue a of the friend. All this stuff,

2424
02:20:02,399 --> 02:20:05,879
it all comes from this one email about a pizza

2425
02:20:06,000 --> 02:20:09,360
related handkerchief or a map about pizza. This is where

2426
02:20:09,360 --> 02:20:15,000
all the speculation comes from. Well, interestingly, journalists who reportedly

2427
02:20:15,159 --> 02:20:21,200
debunked Pizzagate charged of two counts of of PDF files

2428
02:20:24,440 --> 02:20:26,479
you count. So I don't want to say I want

2429
02:20:26,520 --> 02:20:28,840
to give that word power. If you want to, then

2430
02:20:28,879 --> 02:20:31,479
that's all more power to you. But this is the guy,

2431
02:20:31,920 --> 02:20:38,440
Slade Sammer, four charges of possession of this cash bail,

2432
02:20:39,159 --> 02:20:45,639
John Podesta's friend who debunked Pizzagate, arrested for grape jews toddlers.

2433
02:20:46,280 --> 02:20:48,479
So this is the guy and he and here's an

2434
02:20:48,520 --> 02:20:52,479
actual tweet from John Podesta, thanks Slade for sleuthing out

2435
02:20:52,559 --> 02:20:54,719
the origin of this sin call. So he's like, yo,

2436
02:20:55,159 --> 02:20:57,440
thanks for taking this heat off of me, making all

2437
02:20:57,479 --> 02:21:00,760
these conspiracy theorists look like a bunch of idiots, and

2438
02:21:00,920 --> 02:21:07,559
then about wow, wow, yeah, jud the actual John Podesta added,

2439
02:21:07,639 --> 02:21:12,840
the actual Slade who actually was working as a quote

2440
02:21:12,879 --> 02:21:15,719
unquote journalist to debunk all this pizza Gate stuff. And

2441
02:21:15,840 --> 02:21:19,000
he ends up getting arrested for doing the exact thing

2442
02:21:19,079 --> 02:21:19,600
that he said.

2443
02:21:21,280 --> 02:21:22,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, both of them.

2444
02:21:23,159 --> 02:21:26,600
Speaker 3: Okay, here we're getting we're getting close to the end here.

2445
02:21:27,639 --> 02:21:29,959
This is where you were saying before, like, oh, you know,

2446
02:21:30,159 --> 02:21:32,399
most people, and then it turned out to be nine percent,

2447
02:21:32,520 --> 02:21:34,040
but then it turned out to be like twenty three

2448
02:21:34,120 --> 02:21:36,479
percent if you round up on who believes and.

2449
02:21:38,520 --> 02:21:39,680
Speaker 2: Fuck it right.

2450
02:21:39,760 --> 02:21:43,239
Speaker 3: Well, here here's some actual studies, so I don't have

2451
02:21:43,280 --> 02:21:45,319
to shoot from the hip. I've got the real receipts. Here.

2452
02:21:45,360 --> 02:21:49,360
We're gonna find out exactly how many people. So this

2453
02:21:49,600 --> 02:21:51,760
is a from a study from the Sioux Fan Center,

2454
02:21:51,879 --> 02:21:55,399
and it's called Quantifying the q Conspiracy, a data driven

2455
02:21:55,440 --> 02:21:59,920
approach to understanding the threat posed by QAnon some long name,

2456
02:22:00,079 --> 02:22:03,000
but I implore you to look this up yourself and

2457
02:22:03,079 --> 02:22:07,120
read it. This is mind blowing study. So they had

2458
02:22:07,360 --> 02:22:11,280
they this was based on interviews conducted between November of

2459
02:22:11,479 --> 02:22:14,399
twenty twenty through February of twenty twenty one, so like

2460
02:22:14,520 --> 02:22:18,559
two or three months in change. And they sampled nine thousand,

2461
02:22:18,680 --> 02:22:24,479
three hundred and eight US adults all across different belief systems, classes,

2462
02:22:25,479 --> 02:22:29,399
political affiliations. Just a wide sampling of close to ten

2463
02:22:29,479 --> 02:22:33,639
thousand people. It's a decent sample size when you come

2464
02:22:33,719 --> 02:22:36,600
to this very niche type of question. So here's the

2465
02:22:36,719 --> 02:22:43,719
questions that they asked them. Here's a statement statement voter

2466
02:22:43,920 --> 02:22:48,159
fraud played a significant role in the twenty twenty presidential election.

2467
02:22:49,479 --> 02:22:54,000
So out of ten thousand people, forty three point eight

2468
02:22:54,239 --> 02:22:58,120
so nearly half of all the people polled said that

2469
02:22:58,319 --> 02:23:01,600
they do believe that voter fraud played a significant role

2470
02:23:01,680 --> 02:23:04,799
in the twenty twenty presidential election. This is a little

2471
02:23:04,840 --> 02:23:08,079
bit crazy, just because this is not a small minority.

2472
02:23:08,280 --> 02:23:10,559
This is r I mean, this is more than four

2473
02:23:10,600 --> 02:23:13,959
out of ten people all agreeing that, you know, this

2474
02:23:14,159 --> 02:23:18,000
fundamental right to vote is just worthless because it's been manipulated.

2475
02:23:18,879 --> 02:23:21,120
We're not even there yet. These are like the vanilla

2476
02:23:21,280 --> 02:23:25,840
questions they ask them. They asked the question three times December, January,

2477
02:23:25,959 --> 02:23:30,040
and February, and you can see imagine they get the

2478
02:23:30,120 --> 02:23:33,840
first result and they say, crap, people are actually believing

2479
02:23:33,920 --> 02:23:36,559
in this. We need to start more fact checking. We

2480
02:23:36,639 --> 02:23:41,399
need more snoops articles, more fact checker or yeah, we

2481
02:23:41,559 --> 02:23:44,799
need like the Meta and the Facebook fact checkers and

2482
02:23:44,879 --> 02:23:48,040
all that. After they start enacting that, then you can

2483
02:23:48,159 --> 02:23:50,360
see some of these numbers shift around a little bit.

2484
02:23:50,799 --> 02:23:53,440
So it goes from forty four percent to about forty

2485
02:23:53,520 --> 02:23:56,079
one percent, and it kind of stabilizes there, but this

2486
02:23:56,239 --> 02:24:00,280
is still over four and ten people that believe that

2487
02:24:00,600 --> 02:24:06,920
the elections were compromised. Here's another question, question which of

2488
02:24:06,959 --> 02:24:10,520
the following do you believe are or maybe true that

2489
02:24:10,760 --> 02:24:15,319
COVID nineteen was created in a lab? Thirty percent of

2490
02:24:15,360 --> 02:24:17,319
people thought it was created in a lab when they

2491
02:24:17,360 --> 02:24:20,399
first asked. Then it went to thirty four percent of people,

2492
02:24:20,799 --> 02:24:24,360
and then went back down people again, but again three

2493
02:24:24,479 --> 02:24:27,879
out of ten believing that the coronavirus was made in

2494
02:24:27,959 --> 02:24:31,280
a lab. That also was like, WHOA, this is supposed

2495
02:24:31,319 --> 02:24:34,040
to be a fringe theory. I can't believe that this

2496
02:24:34,159 --> 02:24:36,959
many people believe in it. Okay, these were vanilla. Here's

2497
02:24:36,959 --> 02:24:42,639
where it gets really interesting. I consider myself a q

2498
02:24:42,879 --> 02:24:47,639
andon member, believer, or supporter. They got about twenty two

2499
02:24:47,799 --> 02:24:50,600
percent of people, two out of ten people out of

2500
02:24:50,719 --> 02:24:55,000
ten thousand that they asked to align themselves with q

2501
02:24:55,239 --> 02:24:57,920
and on in some way or at least supported the

2502
02:24:58,040 --> 02:25:01,360
QAnon movement. So this this is getting kind of crazy.

2503
02:25:01,440 --> 02:25:06,040
All right, here's one I believe that elites, politicians and

2504
02:25:06,239 --> 02:25:11,520
celebrities are involved in a global pedophile ring. Twenty six

2505
02:25:11,680 --> 02:25:14,600
point seven percent of people the first time they asked it.

2506
02:25:14,760 --> 02:25:18,040
But look at this jump in January of twenty twenty one,

2507
02:25:18,920 --> 02:25:23,280
forty one point three percent. Just take a step back

2508
02:25:23,319 --> 02:25:28,000
and think about this. That four and ten normal people, right,

2509
02:25:28,520 --> 02:25:31,319
a random sampling of ten thousand people in America, that

2510
02:25:31,639 --> 02:25:35,760
four and ten believed that politicians and elites were running

2511
02:25:35,840 --> 02:25:40,040
global pedophile rings. So this was blowing the minds of

2512
02:25:40,040 --> 02:25:43,639
the people that ran this survey. They were expecting nine percent,

2513
02:25:43,920 --> 02:25:48,399
five percent, some crazy tiny minority. They were not expecting

2514
02:25:48,520 --> 02:25:52,639
that four and ten people believe that politicians were running

2515
02:25:52,639 --> 02:25:57,000
these pedophile rings. So here's here's one of their conclusions.

2516
02:25:58,280 --> 02:26:01,840
Two in five people, an average of thirty five percent

2517
02:26:01,920 --> 02:26:06,440
of respondents believe in child trafficking conspiracies that involve the

2518
02:26:06,520 --> 02:26:11,000
global elite. Two and five. That's wild, Right, go into

2519
02:26:11,079 --> 02:26:14,479
a room that's got ten people in there and assume

2520
02:26:14,559 --> 02:26:17,399
that four of those ten people believed that there were

2521
02:26:17,559 --> 02:26:19,600
child trafficking like pedophile rank.

2522
02:26:19,639 --> 02:26:22,319
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, bro, Like, a majority of people

2523
02:26:22,760 --> 02:26:26,000
that you talk to will more than likely lean towards

2524
02:26:26,079 --> 02:26:30,440
this conspiracy. And I've experienced that even on a personal level,

2525
02:26:30,479 --> 02:26:32,680
you have a conversation with somebody and they you know,

2526
02:26:32,760 --> 02:26:37,799
people especially who aren't conspiratorial or esoteric or a cult minded.

2527
02:26:37,840 --> 02:26:39,479
And they start to ask you, like the quiessic, So,

2528
02:26:40,079 --> 02:26:42,239
so what do you think about the uh, the X,

2529
02:26:42,360 --> 02:26:44,159
Y and Z. You think that it really happened, And

2530
02:26:44,239 --> 02:26:46,959
it's like it's in the back of their minds. Is

2531
02:26:47,000 --> 02:26:48,280
it Hollywood? Is it news?

2532
02:26:48,520 --> 02:26:48,639
Speaker 3: Is it?

2533
02:26:48,760 --> 02:26:51,719
Speaker 2: What is it? I mean it might be a little

2534
02:26:51,760 --> 02:26:52,360
bit of everything.

2535
02:26:53,639 --> 02:26:55,959
Speaker 3: Well, well, they asked this question, and I'm pretty sure

2536
02:26:55,959 --> 02:26:58,639
they're freaked out because at the conclusion of this study,

2537
02:26:59,280 --> 02:27:02,360
here's what they say, because they basically are saying, like,

2538
02:27:02,680 --> 02:27:05,399
this is crazy, this should not be the case. We're

2539
02:27:05,479 --> 02:27:10,440
losing to the conspiracy theorists. So they make five suggestions. One,

2540
02:27:11,079 --> 02:27:14,600
the government us remove the key element allowing for any

2541
02:27:14,680 --> 02:27:19,319
conspiracy theory to thrive, which is crisis. They basically equate

2542
02:27:19,440 --> 02:27:23,799
that crisis to the COVID nineteen pandemic. So they're basically saying,

2543
02:27:24,280 --> 02:27:27,879
you guys need to fix this COVID nineteen thing because

2544
02:27:27,920 --> 02:27:30,639
the longer it goes on, the less trust people have

2545
02:27:30,799 --> 02:27:32,959
in the system, and the less trust they have in

2546
02:27:33,000 --> 02:27:36,120
the system, the more they're open to these wild conspiracy

2547
02:27:36,200 --> 02:27:40,559
theories that they're reading online. So now COVID nineteen becomes

2548
02:27:40,600 --> 02:27:43,079
a threat to the global pedophile rings in a very

2549
02:27:43,120 --> 02:27:46,280
indirect way, right, But it's the thing that makes people

2550
02:27:46,440 --> 02:27:49,559
open their minds in their hearts to these crazy theories.

2551
02:27:50,040 --> 02:27:54,799
Two social media companies need to re examine their de

2552
02:27:55,079 --> 02:27:59,000
platforming approaches. Now I believe this is pre Alex Jones

2553
02:27:59,479 --> 02:28:03,440
getting deep platform. This is before people on YouTube are

2554
02:28:03,600 --> 02:28:06,680
just getting all of their accounts just completely batted away,

2555
02:28:07,120 --> 02:28:11,479
before Elon buys Twitter. So this is peak sort of

2556
02:28:11,600 --> 02:28:15,040
censorship online. And I would argue that some of that

2557
02:28:15,319 --> 02:28:18,920
came from this particular study. This siux Fan Center is

2558
02:28:18,959 --> 02:28:23,719
basically a think tank of ex military XCIA revolving door

2559
02:28:23,879 --> 02:28:27,559
between the United States government and private industry. So the

2560
02:28:27,760 --> 02:28:31,479
report they put out absolutely being read by the top

2561
02:28:31,600 --> 02:28:34,920
levels in our government because it's their friends. They're they're

2562
02:28:35,000 --> 02:28:36,840
jumping in, Sue Fan, They're going back to the government.

2563
02:28:36,879 --> 02:28:39,879
They're just like it's a revolving door. They also said

2564
02:28:40,959 --> 02:28:45,120
number three social media companies need to refine their algorithms

2565
02:28:45,520 --> 02:28:50,200
which continue to recommend toxic QAnon related content. So they're

2566
02:28:50,520 --> 02:28:54,399
specifically saying, if you know, if your social media platform

2567
02:28:54,559 --> 02:28:58,680
is repeating anything about these questions about trafficking rings, or

2568
02:28:58,719 --> 02:29:02,040
about COVID nineteen or a drenochrome. They mentioned by name

2569
02:29:02,920 --> 02:29:04,840
that they need to figure out how to filter out

2570
02:29:05,239 --> 02:29:11,520
adrenochrome for community oriented and offline solutions. Some of the

2571
02:29:11,639 --> 02:29:15,399
examples here were like having people confront maybe having like

2572
02:29:15,479 --> 02:29:18,479
the sheriff show up at your door and like, hey,

2573
02:29:18,920 --> 02:29:21,319
you've been spreading. You can kind of see them doing

2574
02:29:21,360 --> 02:29:26,120
this in the UK, right, you post something spicy online

2575
02:29:26,159 --> 02:29:28,319
and the police are at your door, even if they're

2576
02:29:28,360 --> 02:29:31,159
not there to arrest you. It's like we're watching and

2577
02:29:31,239 --> 02:29:34,200
we don't like what you're doing. You're on our radar now,

2578
02:29:34,520 --> 02:29:39,399
like settle it down. And then finally number five, the

2579
02:29:39,600 --> 02:29:44,520
Biden administration should consider working with Congress and civil society

2580
02:29:44,639 --> 02:29:50,280
organizations to determine if the battle against this information warrants

2581
02:29:50,360 --> 02:29:54,719
the creation of a new interagency organization. We're talking about

2582
02:29:55,239 --> 02:29:58,840
a new CIA or a new FBI or a DEA

2583
02:29:59,399 --> 02:30:03,600
that is typically targeted at social media. So like now

2584
02:30:03,680 --> 02:30:07,600
instead of you know, the DEA regulating drugs or atf

2585
02:30:07,719 --> 02:30:11,680
regulating alcohol, alcohol, tobacco, firearms, now there's gonna be another

2586
02:30:11,760 --> 02:30:15,760
alphabet agency that regulates memes, that regulates conspiracy theories.

2587
02:30:16,920 --> 02:30:18,280
Speaker 2: The mimetic task Force.

2588
02:30:18,360 --> 02:30:23,239
Speaker 3: Bro Right, it's probably a real thing at this point, man,

2589
02:30:25,040 --> 02:30:29,760
And that's the that's the end of this shorthand presentation.

2590
02:30:30,799 --> 02:30:32,360
We can get out of here. It's my rumble, my

2591
02:30:32,399 --> 02:30:33,760
ax my ig, all the things.

2592
02:30:34,319 --> 02:30:38,520
Speaker 2: And dude, here's the thing, man, Like I'm still on

2593
02:30:38,600 --> 02:30:40,479
the fence about it. Right, Is it true?

2594
02:30:40,520 --> 02:30:40,760
Speaker 3: Could it?

2595
02:30:40,879 --> 02:30:43,600
Speaker 2: Could it be true? And here's the problem. Right, So

2596
02:30:43,719 --> 02:30:48,120
you showed all of these historical contexts, these movies and everything,

2597
02:30:48,159 --> 02:30:50,360
and it goes back to like the homunculous argument where

2598
02:30:50,479 --> 02:30:54,280
some people will try it just because they read it somewhere,

2599
02:30:54,440 --> 02:30:57,239
they saw something about it somewhere, and they're gonna go

2600
02:30:57,239 --> 02:30:58,719
ahead and try. Like if you look at you know,

2601
02:30:58,760 --> 02:31:01,239
you brought up the arch of a stair with Dahmer.

2602
02:31:01,360 --> 02:31:04,559
Dahmer was doing what he was eating dudes, you know,

2603
02:31:04,799 --> 02:31:07,760
he was eating people. And then there was like this

2604
02:31:07,879 --> 02:31:10,600
a cult aspect to Dahmer where he was creating an

2605
02:31:10,680 --> 02:31:14,200
altar that he never finished with, like these human skulls,

2606
02:31:14,200 --> 02:31:17,399
almost like some necromancy or something really really weird and

2607
02:31:17,680 --> 02:31:20,360
obviously a cult that he never got. And I think

2608
02:31:20,440 --> 02:31:23,159
that part of me says that this guy was able

2609
02:31:23,200 --> 02:31:25,959
to get away with it because maybe he was part

2610
02:31:26,040 --> 02:31:29,079
of some government agency, and they kind of because he did.

2611
02:31:29,319 --> 02:31:30,680
He did a lot of stuff, and there was a

2612
02:31:30,719 --> 02:31:32,959
lot of times where he should have been caught where

2613
02:31:33,000 --> 02:31:35,479
he wasn't. I don't know if that was negligence or

2614
02:31:35,639 --> 02:31:38,159
ignorance or if they knew about it right, and like, hey,

2615
02:31:38,159 --> 02:31:41,639
we're running this operation splinter cell or something. Let's let

2616
02:31:41,680 --> 02:31:43,399
this dude see how far we can get with it,

2617
02:31:43,879 --> 02:31:47,000
and let's let's go ahead and let him conduct some

2618
02:31:47,120 --> 02:31:49,120
of the stuff that we want to do. But then

2619
02:31:49,159 --> 02:31:51,360
we can just blame this fall guy. You know what

2620
02:31:51,399 --> 02:31:52,559
I'm saying, Like here, let.

2621
02:31:52,799 --> 02:31:55,799
Speaker 3: My mind goes, because that's how I've interpreted the whole

2622
02:31:55,959 --> 02:31:59,559
mk Ultra program. It's not it's not like the CIA

2623
02:31:59,680 --> 02:32:02,079
signed get in a room and they brainstorm what kind

2624
02:32:02,120 --> 02:32:04,840
of crazy things they can do to people. It's more

2625
02:32:04,879 --> 02:32:07,879
of them. It's it's like sending your scouts out to

2626
02:32:08,000 --> 02:32:10,719
South America and to Japan to look for those like

2627
02:32:10,840 --> 02:32:14,399
great baseball players to then bring over to your team. Well,

2628
02:32:14,520 --> 02:32:16,639
like the CIA would send their scouts out, but they'd

2629
02:32:16,680 --> 02:32:19,680
send them to Montreal or they would send them to

2630
02:32:19,799 --> 02:32:23,680
like all these different you know, universities and sort of

2631
02:32:23,680 --> 02:32:26,600
like sanitariums all across the country, and you wouldn't tell

2632
02:32:26,639 --> 02:32:29,040
them like, hey, we like what you're doing. I'm from

2633
02:32:29,040 --> 02:32:31,760
the CIA. Here's some money. Now you're in the CIA.

2634
02:32:31,840 --> 02:32:34,000
It didn't work like that. They would show up and

2635
02:32:34,120 --> 02:32:36,000
you would just have someone being like, yo, wan, I

2636
02:32:36,120 --> 02:32:40,399
love this homunculous researcher're doing. Would one hundred thousand dollars help?

2637
02:32:40,479 --> 02:32:42,799
Could you do more? They give you one hundred thousand

2638
02:32:42,840 --> 02:32:45,280
dollars to like really put some fuel on that fire,

2639
02:32:45,639 --> 02:32:47,959
and you'd be like hell yeah. And I'm like, all right, well,

2640
02:32:48,079 --> 02:32:50,399
if I give you one hundred grand to do more

2641
02:32:50,440 --> 02:32:54,920
of your homunculous studies, don't publish anything. First, give it

2642
02:32:55,000 --> 02:32:57,799
all to me so I can see what you're finding,

2643
02:32:58,120 --> 02:32:59,959
and then I'll let you know what can be published,

2644
02:33:00,000 --> 02:33:02,000
and I'm going to share it with my colleagues. And

2645
02:33:02,520 --> 02:33:05,319
I think that's probably how it happens. Like Dahmer might

2646
02:33:05,360 --> 02:33:06,959
have been the same thing, where it's like you're not

2647
02:33:07,520 --> 02:33:09,879
in the FBI, you're not in the CIA now, but

2648
02:33:10,040 --> 02:33:12,600
we like what you're doing, and we're gonna give you

2649
02:33:12,680 --> 02:33:14,639
a free pass so we can see how far you

2650
02:33:14,760 --> 02:33:16,879
can bring it. Since we're not allowed to do it ourselves,

2651
02:33:17,520 --> 02:33:17,959
cause did.

2652
02:33:18,120 --> 02:33:19,239
Speaker 2: He ever say why he did it.

2653
02:33:20,799 --> 02:33:24,520
Speaker 3: Fun for fun? I mean, I don't know if if

2654
02:33:24,559 --> 02:33:28,159
he ever gave a cohesive answer for exactly why. But

2655
02:33:28,239 --> 02:33:32,200
the most common theory was that he had massive abandonment

2656
02:33:32,319 --> 02:33:35,360
issues and part of him thought that by ingesting people

2657
02:33:35,840 --> 02:33:39,319
they would never leave him, which also goes into this

2658
02:33:39,520 --> 02:33:44,879
weird There's a new online fetish called voor v ore,

2659
02:33:45,360 --> 02:33:49,399
and this is ingesting a person into your body where

2660
02:33:49,399 --> 02:33:51,360
they're like still alive in you, but it's like the

2661
02:33:52,040 --> 02:33:54,600
closest you can ever be with someone is by literally

2662
02:33:54,879 --> 02:33:57,799
ingesting them or having them ingest you. And there's also

2663
02:33:58,440 --> 02:34:00,559
version of this where people will put ads out. I

2664
02:34:00,600 --> 02:34:03,799
think there was one in like Germany, or like voluntarily

2665
02:34:03,920 --> 02:34:08,879
became like a cannibalistic victim. It all has been correlated

2666
02:34:08,959 --> 02:34:11,680
to this same theory of like just not wanting.

2667
02:34:11,440 --> 02:34:14,639
Speaker 2: To be alone, And I mean, what what difference with that?

2668
02:34:15,079 --> 02:34:18,159
How is that different than government assisted suicide? Like, Hey,

2669
02:34:18,719 --> 02:34:21,000
I hit you up right? I know you're on grinder

2670
02:34:21,360 --> 02:34:23,680
paranorm American and you're into war and all that stuff,

2671
02:34:23,719 --> 02:34:26,079
and then somebody hits you up and it's like, hey, dude,

2672
02:34:26,079 --> 02:34:27,360
I want you to eat me. Man, I want you

2673
02:34:27,399 --> 02:34:29,239
to put me out of my misery. Then you go

2674
02:34:29,280 --> 02:34:31,200
ahead and do that. Because there was a case about

2675
02:34:31,239 --> 02:34:34,000
this dude who ate another guy and I think they

2676
02:34:34,200 --> 02:34:36,120
I think they might have charged him with murder. But

2677
02:34:36,200 --> 02:34:38,360
because you can't really prove that that person unless you

2678
02:34:38,440 --> 02:34:41,000
got the transcript, I don't know. I don't know how

2679
02:34:41,040 --> 02:34:42,920
that would work. But how is that any different than

2680
02:34:42,920 --> 02:34:45,360
the government letting you do that voluntarily? And something that

2681
02:34:45,680 --> 02:34:49,319
actually there's a story of that here in Orlando, believe

2682
02:34:49,319 --> 02:34:52,280
it or not, there was an example of a well

2683
02:34:52,399 --> 02:34:55,959
to do guy that puts an ad in Craigslist that

2684
02:34:56,200 --> 02:34:58,799
was looking for like odd ends and jobs.

2685
02:34:58,920 --> 02:35:03,319
Speaker 3: Someone was looking for. There was there's a there's a

2686
02:35:03,399 --> 02:35:06,079
TV series called Florida Man that re enacts this in

2687
02:35:06,200 --> 02:35:08,040
kind of a humorous way. But the guy there was

2688
02:35:08,079 --> 02:35:11,719
a guy karate teacher's toes. Yes, dude, there so there's

2689
02:35:11,760 --> 02:35:15,000
a guy was a karate teacher. This is here in Orlando.

2690
02:35:15,559 --> 02:35:18,159
He puts an ad on Craigslist or he sees an

2691
02:35:18,159 --> 02:35:21,120
out on Craigslist someone's like looking for like weird jobs. Anyways,

2692
02:35:21,159 --> 02:35:24,399
he shows up and he's gonna give this guy thousands

2693
02:35:24,440 --> 02:35:27,760
of dollars in order to cut off two of his toes,

2694
02:35:28,360 --> 02:35:31,399
cook them, and eat them in front of him. So

2695
02:35:31,520 --> 02:35:35,200
this is a more mild version of vore. As far

2696
02:35:35,239 --> 02:35:37,520
as I know, they never actually went through it, because

2697
02:35:37,520 --> 02:35:39,879
every time he went to go and chop the toes off,

2698
02:35:40,239 --> 02:35:43,840
the guy would yell out and then and he kept

2699
02:35:43,879 --> 02:35:46,120
being like, oh, what of my kids gonna think like

2700
02:35:46,200 --> 02:35:48,399
you got kids, like what are you doing? And then

2701
02:35:48,399 --> 02:35:50,200
they go to cut it again. He's like wait, wait, wait,

2702
02:35:50,239 --> 02:35:52,280
I'm a karate teacher. How am I gonna be able

2703
02:35:52,280 --> 02:35:55,159
to do? Guys like you should have figured all this

2704
02:35:55,280 --> 02:35:57,680
out yourself, like you're the one that had me come

2705
02:35:57,959 --> 02:36:00,559
to like chop your toes off and yeah, but then

2706
02:36:00,600 --> 02:36:03,520
he brought a friend with them and showed up like

2707
02:36:03,719 --> 02:36:08,719
that's so bizarre, bro, oh my god. So this isn't

2708
02:36:08,760 --> 02:36:10,760
something that you have to look and find in like

2709
02:36:10,840 --> 02:36:13,920
a weird like German newspaper, like this happened in my

2710
02:36:14,120 --> 02:36:16,399
neck of the woods here in Orlando. This is happening.

2711
02:36:16,760 --> 02:36:20,760
So it doesn't seem unreasonable to assume that any large

2712
02:36:21,239 --> 02:36:24,639
population of people, you've got one or two that are

2713
02:36:24,719 --> 02:36:28,239
into war or that are into what you would, I guess,

2714
02:36:28,319 --> 02:36:31,639
like our modern version of this, like human or child sacrifice.

2715
02:36:31,840 --> 02:36:36,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, there is an HBO show called It's

2716
02:36:36,319 --> 02:36:37,399
Florida Man.

2717
02:36:38,120 --> 02:36:40,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was talking about. Yeah, It's Florida Man.

2718
02:36:42,079 --> 02:36:42,120
Speaker 2: What.

2719
02:36:43,120 --> 02:36:46,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I highly recommend watching that episode. But it goes

2720
02:36:46,680 --> 02:36:50,120
to show that this isn't something that died with the

2721
02:36:50,239 --> 02:36:54,120
Carthaginians or the Phoenicians or that like some like this

2722
02:36:54,319 --> 02:36:57,440
is happening in just normal neighborhoods. And even in the

2723
02:36:57,680 --> 02:37:01,639
documentary they mentioned like how normal this guy was. He's

2724
02:37:01,680 --> 02:37:05,120
a karate teacher, he's got a family, he's got kid,

2725
02:37:05,559 --> 02:37:09,799
got like a functional job, a nice house. Like they

2726
02:37:10,280 --> 02:37:12,479
didn't just show up in like a random weird alley

2727
02:37:12,840 --> 02:37:14,920
and the guy comes out in like a gimpsuit, like

2728
02:37:15,079 --> 02:37:17,959
ready to go crazy. It was just a normal person

2729
02:37:18,239 --> 02:37:20,159
otherwise that you would expect them to be normal.

2730
02:37:20,600 --> 02:37:23,440
Speaker 2: Yaikes, dude, Yeah, this is crazy, and I know you

2731
02:37:23,520 --> 02:37:25,319
didn't touch on it. But there was also a medicinal

2732
02:37:25,360 --> 02:37:29,559
cannibalism going on during the I believe seventeenth or sixteenth

2733
02:37:29,600 --> 02:37:31,959
century as well, where there was in this epidemic of

2734
02:37:32,040 --> 02:37:37,920
people robbing old coffins and burial sites to bring out

2735
02:37:38,000 --> 02:37:39,520
the bodies.

2736
02:37:39,159 --> 02:37:42,239
Speaker 3: And eating mummy like little pieces of mummies and that

2737
02:37:42,360 --> 02:37:45,879
turns into its old thing. There's also a term called

2738
02:37:47,000 --> 02:37:51,360
medical vampurism or clinical vampirism, and this is also based

2739
02:37:51,399 --> 02:37:55,840
on the premise of bram Stoker's Dracula that was that

2740
02:37:56,000 --> 02:38:00,639
was another version of this migration of old blocklood libel

2741
02:38:00,840 --> 02:38:05,280
and like magical blood, like blood magic and cannibal magic,

2742
02:38:05,680 --> 02:38:07,799
but turned into the modern era because they were using

2743
02:38:07,879 --> 02:38:10,360
blood transfusions. They were doing the blood boy thing that

2744
02:38:10,520 --> 02:38:13,879
was the original premise of bram Stoker was essentially blood boys.

2745
02:38:14,559 --> 02:38:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also this goes back to the mellified man

2746
02:38:18,239 --> 02:38:24,159
and Chinese medicine. The first China was like human body

2747
02:38:24,239 --> 02:38:27,760
part to urine and the top of the skull of something,

2748
02:38:27,799 --> 02:38:31,159
you know. So it's been again the whole adrino chrome

2749
02:38:31,200 --> 02:38:34,280
and everything. You can lump it all in together. I'm

2750
02:38:34,319 --> 02:38:39,719
going to say that this exists. If it's for some

2751
02:38:39,959 --> 02:38:44,280
sort of magical rejuvenation of the tissue to become younger,

2752
02:38:44,559 --> 02:38:45,879
I think that's still up in the air. We know

2753
02:38:46,000 --> 02:38:49,079
that it has an effect as you cover on this presentation.

2754
02:38:49,879 --> 02:38:53,120
It has some sort of effect on people as to

2755
02:38:53,319 --> 02:38:56,120
if it works or they're making themselves believe it works.

2756
02:38:56,440 --> 02:38:58,280
That's up for debate, right, because then we can add

2757
02:38:58,399 --> 02:39:01,600
in all the other child's sacrifice, human sacrifice. Throughout all

2758
02:39:01,639 --> 02:39:04,000
of history they were doing it for some sort of sympathetic,

2759
02:39:04,079 --> 02:39:09,120
magical thing, and then nowadays it's like, hey, we're doing

2760
02:39:09,200 --> 02:39:11,680
it to live longer or whatever it is because we

2761
02:39:11,879 --> 02:39:12,040
like it.

2762
02:39:12,159 --> 02:39:15,360
Speaker 3: Well, I'll leave you on on one other thing to

2763
02:39:15,440 --> 02:39:20,319
look up. So that guy, doctor Abram Hoffer, he wrote

2764
02:39:20,360 --> 02:39:23,120
something in nineteen ninety six, I believe, and it was

2765
02:39:23,280 --> 02:39:27,639
called the Adrenochrome Hypothesis Revisited, And I believe this was

2766
02:39:27,760 --> 02:39:32,840
published in the Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine. I got at

2767
02:39:32,920 --> 02:39:35,600
least eighty nine point eight percent of all that right.

2768
02:39:36,200 --> 02:39:40,479
Speaker 2: But in this the an Hypothesis of Schizophrenia Revisited correct.

2769
02:39:40,920 --> 02:39:45,479
Speaker 3: And in this paper, his revisited paper, this is where

2770
02:39:45,520 --> 02:39:48,799
he makes that claim about the LSD being triggered by adrenochrome.

2771
02:39:48,840 --> 02:39:52,399
He makes this claim that the people that survived the

2772
02:39:52,479 --> 02:39:57,760
bubonic plague might have had more predisposition to schizophrenia. But

2773
02:39:57,879 --> 02:40:00,920
it basically boils down to this one claim, and he

2774
02:40:01,000 --> 02:40:04,719
says that this is oversimplification. But if you were to

2775
02:40:04,760 --> 02:40:08,280
classify people into two different groups, you've got those that

2776
02:40:08,440 --> 02:40:11,000
are prone to cancer, and you've got those that are

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02:40:11,040 --> 02:40:14,959
prone to dementia or schizophrenia, and that the ones that

2778
02:40:15,079 --> 02:40:19,079
are more prone to schizophrenia tend to have less cancer

2779
02:40:19,200 --> 02:40:22,319
in their family line, meaning that if they do get cancer,

2780
02:40:22,840 --> 02:40:25,639
it won't be as malignant if they get if they

2781
02:40:25,760 --> 02:40:28,079
beat the cancer, there's a better chance and it won't

2782
02:40:28,120 --> 02:40:31,760
come back. They've even done studies that people that smoke cigarettes,

2783
02:40:32,319 --> 02:40:35,799
that those with dementia in their family lines get lung

2784
02:40:35,920 --> 02:40:38,479
cancer at far less of a rate wait way below

2785
02:40:38,559 --> 02:40:40,680
like a regular placebo or like a like a fifty

2786
02:40:40,719 --> 02:40:43,799
to fifty chance, so that if you have dementia in

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02:40:43,879 --> 02:40:46,959
your family line, there's a better chance that you'll survive

2788
02:40:47,559 --> 02:40:50,959
these pandemics, that you won't get cancer. And that also

2789
02:40:52,040 --> 02:40:56,200
people that have schizophrenia and dementia in their families tend

2790
02:40:56,280 --> 02:40:59,360
to in his words that I'm paraphrasing, not mine, that

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02:40:59,520 --> 02:41:02,399
they tend to be more creative, have a more youthful

2792
02:41:02,760 --> 02:41:07,520
look and expression, they have some sort of anti aging properties,

2793
02:41:07,559 --> 02:41:10,000
and that they don't wrinkle as much, or when they

2794
02:41:10,040 --> 02:41:13,479
do wrinkle, it's not as prevalent as that those that

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02:41:13,639 --> 02:41:17,000
aren't that don't have schizphreny and dementia, and the way

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02:41:17,040 --> 02:41:19,479
that I interpret the way that he's writing it is

2797
02:41:19,520 --> 02:41:22,559
almost like you go to the gym and you lift

2798
02:41:22,600 --> 02:41:25,360
the weights and you're breaking your muscle fibers right, and

2799
02:41:25,440 --> 02:41:27,600
they're regrowing. So every time you go to the gym

2800
02:41:27,680 --> 02:41:29,879
and you break more muscle fibers and more grow, you're

2801
02:41:29,920 --> 02:41:32,600
getting stronger and stronger at it. You're kind of training

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02:41:32,680 --> 02:41:37,239
yourself to be this big, badass. Well, imagine that if

2803
02:41:37,319 --> 02:41:41,120
you brought yourself to the brink of insanity, say you

2804
02:41:41,319 --> 02:41:43,639
rip the small child's face off and you ate it

2805
02:41:43,719 --> 02:41:46,000
in front of them, that might be one of these

2806
02:41:46,200 --> 02:41:49,520
things that would bring you to the very brink of insanity.

2807
02:41:49,760 --> 02:41:52,840
And if you can continuously bring yourself to that very

2808
02:41:52,959 --> 02:41:55,959
edge of insanity and then reel yourself back, you can

2809
02:41:56,079 --> 02:41:58,600
keep doing that. Is almost like going to the gym

2810
02:41:58,719 --> 02:42:02,920
and lifting muscles. Instead of tearing muscle fiber that regrows,

2811
02:42:03,360 --> 02:42:08,040
you're basically like tearing neurons. I guess to continue the analogy,

2812
02:42:08,399 --> 02:42:10,799
but that if you don't actually become insane, if you

2813
02:42:10,840 --> 02:42:14,200
don't actually become schizophrenic from this, then the more often

2814
02:42:14,280 --> 02:42:17,360
you do that, then you're building up this resistance to

2815
02:42:17,559 --> 02:42:20,360
becoming crazy. And that if you can build up that

2816
02:42:20,479 --> 02:42:24,440
resistance every time you bring yourself to the state of

2817
02:42:24,520 --> 02:42:28,440
madness or dementia, schizophrenia and real back if you don't

2818
02:42:28,479 --> 02:42:31,840
actually succumb to the disease known as schizophrenia or dementia,

2819
02:42:32,280 --> 02:42:35,959
then you are improving your entire lineage, your entire family,

2820
02:42:36,120 --> 02:42:41,600
your bloodlines, chances of beating pandemics, of being smarter, more creative,

2821
02:42:41,719 --> 02:42:46,000
having a more youthful expression. So there is some sort

2822
02:42:46,040 --> 02:42:49,479
of scientific basis based on this adrenachrome hypothesis or re

2823
02:42:49,600 --> 02:42:53,760
visited that doing these crazy things, taking psychedelics, torturing people,

2824
02:42:54,319 --> 02:43:00,200
having wildlife experiences could actually be some sort of out

2825
02:43:00,280 --> 02:43:03,200
into youth. Not for you that's doing it, but for

2826
02:43:03,440 --> 02:43:06,000
everyone that comes after you, your entire bloodline.

2827
02:43:06,760 --> 02:43:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's exactly why this won't ever be on

2828
02:43:09,639 --> 02:43:17,040
YouTube because of those claims right there, dude, fascinating presentation.

2829
02:43:17,600 --> 02:43:23,360
This is really interesting. To really peel apart this conspiracy

2830
02:43:23,399 --> 02:43:28,399
and talk about it from more of a historical, mythological

2831
02:43:28,559 --> 02:43:31,959
and scientific point of view, you know, really opens up

2832
02:43:31,959 --> 02:43:33,959
your eyes as to why some people may think this

2833
02:43:34,120 --> 02:43:36,920
is real. Like I again, I'm on the camp that

2834
02:43:37,040 --> 02:43:38,920
I think it is real. I think there are people

2835
02:43:39,040 --> 02:43:41,440
doing this as to the extent of that, if it

2836
02:43:41,520 --> 02:43:43,520
is the elites or not, we want ever really know.

2837
02:43:44,399 --> 02:43:47,319
But yeah, dude, make sure Paranoidamerican dot com everyone and

2838
02:43:47,399 --> 02:43:50,479
check them out. If you're listening to this, make sure

2839
02:43:50,479 --> 02:43:53,120
I check it out on Rumble. And also let us

2840
02:43:53,239 --> 02:43:55,319
know what you think. If you think this is real,

2841
02:43:55,440 --> 02:43:58,200
you think this is not real, what your thoughts are

2842
02:43:58,319 --> 02:44:02,879
on the adrenochrome. Unveil research here by Paranoid American to say.

2843
02:44:02,840 --> 02:44:07,719
Speaker 3: And if you have access lab access to oqueous adrenochrome,

2844
02:44:07,879 --> 02:44:11,920
not the shelf stable semicarbozoone, but if you've got access

2845
02:44:11,920 --> 02:44:14,680
to pure adrenochrome that is stored at negative twenty degrees

2846
02:44:15,600 --> 02:44:18,920
and are willing to get that to me, I will

2847
02:44:19,079 --> 02:44:22,559
absolutely do it on a live stream. I'll do it

2848
02:44:22,639 --> 02:44:26,000
the exact same way that doctor Abram Hoffer writes about

2849
02:44:26,040 --> 02:44:28,000
doing it in the nineteen fifties. I think it's a

2850
02:44:28,079 --> 02:44:31,520
nineteen fifty three report. They take it blingually, they just

2851
02:44:31,600 --> 02:44:34,079
put it under They take pure adrenochrome, they put it

2852
02:44:34,200 --> 02:44:36,399
under their tongue, and they trip out for a couple

2853
02:44:36,440 --> 02:44:39,360
of hours. So I will do that. I don't want

2854
02:44:39,399 --> 02:44:44,000
to do expired EpiPens. It's way too It's not potent

2855
02:44:44,079 --> 02:44:46,600
enough anyways, and I don't want to stick any myself

2856
02:44:46,639 --> 02:44:49,719
in anything. But if I can get aqueous adrenochrome, I

2857
02:44:49,799 --> 02:44:52,079
will do it live on air. So look me up

2858
02:44:52,120 --> 02:44:53,719
and reach out to me if you can make that happen.

2859
02:44:54,360 --> 02:44:57,120
Speaker 2: All right, Well you heard the man. Make sure to

2860
02:44:57,159 --> 02:44:59,719
follow me on social media at THOUGH one on one

2861
02:44:59,760 --> 02:45:02,920
pododcast on all social media platforms. If you're listening to

2862
02:45:03,000 --> 02:45:05,280
this on the RSS feed, the video will only be

2863
02:45:05,360 --> 02:45:08,399
available on Rumble, and I'll post the links in the

2864
02:45:08,479 --> 02:45:12,200
description www dot t j O j P dot com,

2865
02:45:12,719 --> 02:45:15,000
Patreon dot com, slash though on the podcast. All that

2866
02:45:15,079 --> 02:45:17,120
good stuff and we'll cut you guys on the next one. Bye.

2867
02:46:05,319 --> 02:46:08,079
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