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<v Speaker 1>It's the perfect into your day Jesse Kelly on seven ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Woo but Jesse Kelly Show, let's have some fun.

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<v Speaker 3>On a Thursday. Ah, my goodness, I am so unbelievably excited.

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<v Speaker 4>And do you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Why I'm excited?

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<v Speaker 2>No, freedom is not.

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<v Speaker 3>Free because Independence Day is tomorrow, and I am just like, Look,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna have to get used to this. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be obnoxious all night long. I can't help it. I

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<v Speaker 3>love Independence Day. I love my country. It's asked doctor

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<v Speaker 3>Jesse Thursday. Life is freaking good. The questions are amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything from food to July fourth, to the big beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>build Congress to everything else under the sun will be

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<v Speaker 3>discussed over the next three hours. And before I forget

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<v Speaker 3>a half hour from now, the great Mike Rowe. You

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<v Speaker 3>know Mike row Micro. Of course, everybody knows who Mike

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<v Speaker 3>Rowe is. Mike Rowe, the guy who's been teaching us

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<v Speaker 3>about the greatness of the trades and all that stuff

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<v Speaker 3>for so long. He knows I'm hot on that too,

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<v Speaker 3>and he will be joining the show a half hour

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<v Speaker 3>from now to talk about you and me and jobs

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<v Speaker 3>and the economy, and yes, Chris, we will discuss what's

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<v Speaker 3>on the grill for Independence Day. I love it, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I got to give you a heads up about something.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to talk about the bill. I don't uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you're just now joining us. Maybe you're just now

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<v Speaker 3>getting in a car. I've been paying attention to the news.

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<v Speaker 3>This was Mike Johnson earlier today.

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<v Speaker 1>This vote, the yaser to eighteen, the nayser two fourteen.

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<v Speaker 3>The motion is adopted. You got it. The bill passed.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you love it, maybe you hate it. There you go,

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<v Speaker 3>there's your breaking news of the day. I don't care

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about it anymore. Sorry, I'm not interested whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gigantic, way too big, spends way too much. There

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<v Speaker 3>are some wonderful things in it, some absolutely disgusting, criminal,

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<v Speaker 3>embarrassing things in it. That's how life goes. Congress is evil, corrupt,

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<v Speaker 3>and horrible. I'm not going to be dragged down on

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<v Speaker 3>this day. The bill passed, Trump signed it to YadA, YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go. There's your breaking news. Jessey, do you

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<v Speaker 3>think there's any chance of an attack on America on

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<v Speaker 3>the fourth, or more importantly, next year on the two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and fiftieth birthday celebration. Okay, there's a reason I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to open up with this question. Maybe maybe there is.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe Iran's gonna go set off a bomb somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe another one of these training terrorists is gonna go

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<v Speaker 3>murder a bunch of people. Maybe maybe, maybe maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I don't know. There could be an

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<v Speaker 3>attack going on right now. I don't know. But let

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<v Speaker 3>me tell you something. There's nothing, nothing in this world

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<v Speaker 3>that would keep me from celebrating Independence Day. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm doing on Independence Day. There's this town

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<v Speaker 3>close to us, well, I say close about an hour away.

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<v Speaker 3>They have the most ridiculous, over the top, red, white,

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<v Speaker 3>and Blue God and Country Independence Day parade that morning. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I hate parades. Hate parades. I think they're the most boring,

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<v Speaker 3>lame thing in the world. Not this one. They'll have

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<v Speaker 3>guns laid out on the table you can just buy.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll have they do American Revolution reenactments with squirt guns

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<v Speaker 3>where they're where the British are shooting squirt guns that

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<v Speaker 3>the kids and the kids are throwing water balloons back.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the most over the top thing in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm going I don't care what the threats are.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care what the danger is. I'm going and

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<v Speaker 3>then tomorrow night I have a vat of fireworks that

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<v Speaker 3>is probably equal or perhaps exceeding the fireworks that will

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<v Speaker 3>be set off in many towns across the United States

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<v Speaker 3>of America. No, it's not for the whole neighborhood. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just for me. I mean me, the kids, oh, my

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<v Speaker 3>fam a couple other family members, a couple of friends

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<v Speaker 3>coming over. And there's nothing that's gonna stop me from

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<v Speaker 3>setting it off. And do you know why, Because I

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<v Speaker 3>am so insanely grateful to be an American and you

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<v Speaker 3>should too what we have here, because it's all we've

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<v Speaker 3>ever known. If you're an American listening to this, because

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<v Speaker 3>it's all we've ever known, we don't even I don't

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<v Speaker 3>fully appreciate how amazing it is to live in a

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<v Speaker 3>country that had a revolution. We had a revolution against

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<v Speaker 3>the most powerful empire on the planet. You could make

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<v Speaker 3>the argument that the British Empire when we had our revolution,

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<v Speaker 3>was the most powerful revolution or most powerful empire in

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<v Speaker 3>human history. They had Australia, then India, America. The sun

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<v Speaker 3>never sets on the British Empire. All that stuff was true,

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<v Speaker 3>this ridiculously powerful empire, and yet they started to do

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<v Speaker 3>what evil tyrannical governments do. They started to poke and

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<v Speaker 3>poke and poke. We're not gonna let you do this,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're not gonna let you do that, and we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna tax this, and we're gonna abuse you with that,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're going to abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>You with this.

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<v Speaker 3>Almost like they were daring us to revolve, Almost like

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<v Speaker 3>they were daring us to have a revolution. But you

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<v Speaker 3>know all that, Here's what you maybe don't know. Revolutions

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<v Speaker 3>are awful almost every single time because whenever you remove

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<v Speaker 3>a government, even an evil one, Mao will make it.

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<v Speaker 3>Mao maybe the most evil man who ever lived. Even

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<v Speaker 3>if you had a revolution in China when Mao was

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<v Speaker 3>busy killing fifty million of his own people, even if

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<v Speaker 3>that happened, you know who would usually almost every time,

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<v Speaker 3>you know who would take over the warlord who has

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<v Speaker 3>the most guns and most power and honestly is the

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<v Speaker 3>most violent. That's who wins the wars most of the time.

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<v Speaker 3>You realize that the most violent gun happy person, weapon

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<v Speaker 3>happy person, who's able to kill more people than other people,

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<v Speaker 3>he takes over for the tyrant who just got kicked

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<v Speaker 3>out and then he does worse things than the other

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<v Speaker 3>tyrant did. Actually, that's a really good point, Chris. Haiti

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<v Speaker 3>is a great example. Haiti. Everyone knows about the transit

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<v Speaker 3>transatlantic slave trade and all that, and I know America

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<v Speaker 3>and then America is the only one, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>South America the care It was a big business, it

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<v Speaker 3>was a global business. You'd be hard pressed to find

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<v Speaker 3>in that era a more despicable slavery condition than Haiti

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<v Speaker 3>had at the time, because it was sugarcane and that's

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<v Speaker 3>so labor intensive and just the abuse. And so you're

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<v Speaker 3>looking at Haiti at the time and you're thinking to yourself, Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>they should cast that off, they should have a revolution,

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<v Speaker 3>they should revolt, and they did. Whoo, yes, let's get

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<v Speaker 3>rid of them. Yep, Haiti's the biggest dump on the

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<v Speaker 3>planet today. You could easily argue that Haiti is worse

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<v Speaker 3>today than it was when they had slaves. They're eating

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<v Speaker 3>each other in the place. Revolutions don't work out, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not a thing that happens. Oh, Revolutions happen, and the

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<v Speaker 3>people are as bad or worse off every single time. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>let's talk about this the men who led our revolution.

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<v Speaker 3>They were the top one percenters of their time. It

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't just you know, a peasant revolt where you or

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<v Speaker 3>me were unhappy with the taxes. I can't, I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>No no, no, no, no no. Our political leaders, our

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<v Speaker 3>business leaders. Patrick Henry, you know Patrick Henry. Everyone knows

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<v Speaker 3>at least the saying give me liberty or give me death.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick Henry was the five time governor of Virginia. Our

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<v Speaker 3>top and elite. They led our revolution against the British crown.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you have these elite guys, politicians and wealthy people.

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<v Speaker 3>John Hancock, you know that huge signature on the declaration everybody,

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<v Speaker 3>John Hancock. John Hancock was like a billionaire. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>not a billionaire, but compared to his time, pretty much

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<v Speaker 3>was a billionaire. Our elite read led a revolution against

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<v Speaker 3>the British crown. Now let me ask you something. If

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff Bezos and Donald Trump and Elon Musk and but

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<v Speaker 3>all the elite, all the Rhonda Santus will make it

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<v Speaker 3>the political elite too, all the political and wealthy elite,

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<v Speaker 3>if they all banded together and they had a revolution today,

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<v Speaker 3>what kind of government would they give?

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<v Speaker 1>Us next.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think do you think they would all have

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<v Speaker 3>the kind of government all agree to give us, the

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<v Speaker 3>kind of government that strip them of power. That doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>They would come up with a kind of government that

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<v Speaker 3>gives them more power and more money, like happens in

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<v Speaker 3>every other revolution, but not here, not in the United

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<v Speaker 3>States of America. We replaced a tyrant with freedom, and

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<v Speaker 3>that never happens. You, an American citizen, can turn off

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<v Speaker 3>the Jesse Kelly Show right now and go buy a

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<v Speaker 3>billboard in your town that says Donald Trump sucks. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know what will happen to you? Nothing, because you

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<v Speaker 3>are free, a free American, and you are free because

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<v Speaker 3>we had the greatest revolution ever. I don't care what

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<v Speaker 3>may happen on the fourth of July, I will be

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<v Speaker 3>out there waving the red, white, and blue, celebrating the

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<v Speaker 3>unbelievable blessing that I am an American, and I hope

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<v Speaker 3>you will join me. By the way, I had a

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<v Speaker 3>chance to have a discussion today with somebody. He is

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<v Speaker 3>a professor. He knows more about American history. He's forgotten

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<v Speaker 3>more about American history than I will ever know in

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<v Speaker 3>my entire lifetime. His name's Wilfred McLay by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>Wilfred McLay. And you know what he told me. I

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<v Speaker 3>was asking him about how do you teach history? Because

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<v Speaker 3>he's a professor. How do you teach history? How do

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<v Speaker 3>you teach it? How do you present it? You know

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<v Speaker 3>what he said to me, just bless me. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I have an obligat obligation as a

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<v Speaker 3>history teacher to create good citizens.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent

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<v Speaker 4>Thursday Independence Day eve in a rebel yell.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, because we rebelled. We rebelled against tyranny. We rebelled

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<v Speaker 3>against the evil English king, that piece of trash that

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<v Speaker 3>he was, and we said no more, no, we will

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<v Speaker 3>be free. We will cast off our tyrant, and we

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<v Speaker 3>will not replace him with another one. The people of

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<v Speaker 3>this country will choose their government, they will govern themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is why I will celebrate tomorrow. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>because we don't have problems and everything's fine, Abev abev

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<v Speaker 3>of the I will celebrate because my children live free,

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<v Speaker 3>and they live free because we fought against tyranny and

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<v Speaker 3>replaced it with something freaking better. Like here's another one,

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<v Speaker 3>dear Top five napper, listening to your podcast tonight, hearing

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<v Speaker 3>a clip of Dome answer the questions on CBS reminds

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<v Speaker 3>me of how we dodge that bullet. It's the fourth

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<v Speaker 3>of July this week. We need to celebrate as much

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<v Speaker 3>as the Communists celebrate their BS holidays. We're doing good.

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<v Speaker 3>Momentum is building, celebrate wins, and on the fifth, let's

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<v Speaker 3>keep up the fight. Semper five. Maybe we ought to

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<v Speaker 3>just dwell on that for a moment. Here we are

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<v Speaker 3>on Independence Day and I know nothing's perfect. I get that.

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<v Speaker 3>I know we have all kinds of problems FBI and spending.

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<v Speaker 3>I get all that. What's today like with President Kamala Harris?

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<v Speaker 3>What what tomorrow? What's today tomorrow like with President Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what. It's not like. It's not this.

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<v Speaker 5>So the Homeland Security Department, or at least brand new

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<v Speaker 5>data this week showing that in June there were a

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<v Speaker 5>record low number of both nationwide border encounters and illegal

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<v Speaker 5>immigrant apprehensions at the southern border. Here's the craziest part.

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<v Speaker 5>There were zero illegal immigrants released in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>You compare that to the.

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<v Speaker 5>Highs under the Biden administration when we saw as many

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<v Speaker 5>as twelve thousand encounters per day.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what else isn't happening with President Kamala Harris?

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<v Speaker 4>This?

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<v Speaker 3>This is better than expected? Yeah, Sarah it is. They're

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<v Speaker 3>better than expected. Yeah, Sarah, it is.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, this jobs market is like the energizer bunny. Every

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<v Speaker 6>single time we expected to run out of steam, it

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<v Speaker 6>just keeps going and going. So these new numbers show

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<v Speaker 6>the US economy added one hundred and forty seven thousand

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<v Speaker 6>jobs in June. That was well ahead of the expectation

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<v Speaker 6>of about one hundred and eighteen thousand, well ahead of

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<v Speaker 6>some whispers that we heard on Wall Street of a

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<v Speaker 3>We were also expecting a slowdown. We did not get that.

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<v Speaker 6>This is basically in line with May, which was revised higher.

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<v Speaker 6>It's also good news the unemployment.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to feel good about that bill that was

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not even saying I like it. Well, let's go

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<v Speaker 3>to a Democrat. Why should I like this bill? Who

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<v Speaker 3>should I like this bill and miss the speaker? We

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<v Speaker 3>so hard to stop it. Sounds like my kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is he fighting so hard to stop it? Or

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<v Speaker 6>A deportation machine that will be unleashed on steroids by

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm so excited. It sounds wonderful. Anyway, steroids are underrated.

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<v Speaker 3>No stop, I don't want you what Chris, It's fine,

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<v Speaker 3>let me explain. I don't want you to ever do steroids. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So I want you to stay away from the rooids

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't want your hard to explode when you're

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<v Speaker 3>thirty five. But man, wasn't baseball speaking of America? Wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>baseball sweet when everyone was all juiced up? As I've

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<v Speaker 3>it now, don't get me wrong, But everyone complained. Everyone

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<v Speaker 3>complained that all the players had biceps the size of

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<v Speaker 3>my thighs. And that were jack and eighty bombs a year.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the most fun I've ever had watching baseball on

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<v Speaker 3>my entire life. That's fine, it's not my dad. He's

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<v Speaker 3>not my strength. Coach. Go ahead, jam that needle in

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<v Speaker 3>your arm, buddy, and hit one out for all of us. Sorry, Chris,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna clean that up. I told you I'm in

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<v Speaker 3>a good mood. And when I'm in a good mood,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes the show can take a dark turn. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>it can take a dark turn because I'm a dark person, really,

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<v Speaker 3>especially now I've been out in the sun. Doctor tiny hands,

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<v Speaker 3>I never paid attention in school, so I'm still green

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<v Speaker 3>on the different branches and their powers. Who has more

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<v Speaker 3>power the House or the Senate? Or is it like

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<v Speaker 3>comparing apples to oranges? Also they both suck something awful.

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<v Speaker 3>What which group of people are the worse or worse

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<v Speaker 3>rhino wise? House members or Senate members? All right, let's

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<v Speaker 3>talk about this first. Who has more power the House

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<v Speaker 3>or Senate? That is definitely like comparing apples to oranges.

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<v Speaker 3>You kind of nailed that one. Keep in mind, there's

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<v Speaker 3>what the Senate is now and there's what the Senate

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<v Speaker 3>was supposed to be, and because of something horrible called

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<v Speaker 3>the Seventeenth Amendments, what the Senate is now is totally

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<v Speaker 3>totally different, totally totally different than what the founders had intended.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's discuss this because look, it's American Revolution time.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about Independence Day, and so the American Revolution,

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<v Speaker 3>in our constitution and our form of government, it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be on people's minds. Let's discuss what was the

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<v Speaker 3>intention of all of it and where that brought us now.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're gonna have to wait on that because we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking to Micro next. Mike Ro's going to talk about jobs, trades,

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<v Speaker 3>geek out on constitution stuff and Senate and House and

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<v Speaker 3>everything else. I bet Micro takes chuck. I bet he does, seriously,

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<v Speaker 3>anybody who works with his hands like Micro does and

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<v Speaker 3>encourages others to do the sames. You know what, he

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<v Speaker 3>has testosterone, a lot of it. And I bet, look,

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<v Speaker 3>he's perfectly aware that our water is full of estrogen.

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<v Speaker 3>Full of estrogen. You heard of Kim Jeffrey. You think

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<v Speaker 3>this water isn't full of estrogen and miss the speaker,

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<v Speaker 3>we want no part of it. Okay, Chris, did you

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<v Speaker 3>detect a little lisp in there? Hey, miss the speaker

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<v Speaker 3>and miss the speaker, we want no part of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is he needs a male vitality stack. It'll clean

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<v Speaker 3>that right up. Well, even if it won't, his T

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<v Speaker 3>levels will be up twenty percent in ninety days. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you want to feel good? Not just about Independence Day?

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<v Speaker 3>Three hundred and sixty five days a year full of energy?

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<v Speaker 3>Ready to go, focus, Go get some natural herbal supplements

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<v Speaker 3>from the hardcore patriots at Chalk Chalk is life changing.

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<v Speaker 3>Will It'll change your life? Give them ninety days you

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<v Speaker 3>are going to have a better life. Call them, text

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<v Speaker 3>them five zero Chalk three thousand, five zero cho Q

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<v Speaker 3>three thousand. We'll be back with Mike rom It is

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<v Speaker 3>the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent Thursday. Oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so excited for fireworks in the parade with guns

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<v Speaker 3>in god in America. Gosh, I love Independence Day, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so excited to talk to Mike Rowe joining me now,

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<v Speaker 3>somebody I've respected for a very long time and honored

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<v Speaker 3>and love how he encourages young men to perhaps forge

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<v Speaker 3>a different path in what society's telling him to go along.

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<v Speaker 3>CEO of Mike Roworks Foundation, do I have that right, Mike?

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<v Speaker 1>That's close enough, man. Yeah, that's me, Mike.

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<v Speaker 3>Why shouldn't everybody go to college? I was always told

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<v Speaker 3>you got to go to college, you got to go

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, thanks for the kind words. I stumbled

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<v Speaker 1>been screaming for seventeen years. But look, the short answer

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<v Speaker 1>people is right up there with one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>And that has caused so many problems. I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>in no particular order, we have seven point six million

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<v Speaker 1>open jobs available right now, most of them don't require

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<v Speaker 1>that don't exist anymore. And it really all spins out

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<v Speaker 3>No, I just love that, and I've always loved that.

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<v Speaker 3>But granted I come from a construction family. It's what

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<v Speaker 3>just in my opinion that people will get wrong about this. First,

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<v Speaker 3>they think that being sweatier, dirty somehow is bad. If

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<v Speaker 3>they think it means you're going to not have as

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<v Speaker 3>It's just not true that sweat's bad for you, and

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is, you know, from your mouth to God's ears,

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<v Speaker 1>None of the networks wanted it, you know. Discovery finally

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<v Speaker 1>had other plans for me, and I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>exact reason you're saying, Jesse, the network executives are not

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<v Speaker 1>much different than concerned parents, you know, they they want

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<v Speaker 3>I'm afraid, Mike again, speaking with Mike Row, CEO of

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm telling you right now there a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of share parents leaning into the radio when they hear

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<v Speaker 3>wait a minute, scholarships. Scholarships to what? Because I get

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<v Speaker 3>questions of Jesse. Where do I even find a trade school?

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<v Speaker 3>Where do I go? How long is it? Could you

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<v Speaker 3>please explain that process to every parent of teenage boys

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<v Speaker 3>like I am, who's interested in this. I have a

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen year old. He's already told me that's where he's going.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm interested in this.

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<v Speaker 4>What do we do?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure? Sure, well. The first thing not to oversell it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have to understand the totality of the problem

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<v Speaker 1>and what's caused it. Seven point six million open jobs

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<v Speaker 1>in manufacturing and skilled trades is a result of something right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really two things. First, it's just bad math.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a demographic problem. For every five trades people

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<v Speaker 1>who retire this year, too will replace them. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>been that way for twelve years, so the labor pool

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<v Speaker 1>gets smaller and smaller every year. We also are still

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with stigmas and stereotypes and myths and misperceptions and

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<v Speaker 1>just all kinds of bad information that have led people

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<v Speaker 1>to conclude that there's no real opportunity in these vocations.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we got where we got to answer your question,

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<v Speaker 1>there's many, many ways to get to find a trade

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<v Speaker 1>school in your area, or an apprenticeship program, or a

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<v Speaker 1>community college that might offer some kind of OTJ or

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<v Speaker 1>on the job training. It's as simple as going online. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go to my website microworks dot org, and

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<v Speaker 1>while you're there, there's always a big pile of free money.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we do this every nine months, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's we're modest by foundation standards, but still

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<v Speaker 1>twelve thirteen million dollars is left to mark. So my

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<v Speaker 1>advice to parents really is is to don't make the

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<v Speaker 1>mistake that got us here in the first place. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's best for your kid, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>know that they deserve an honest look at all of

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<v Speaker 1>the options that are out there. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>worry that when we put our thumb on the scale,

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<v Speaker 1>we just skew the whole conversation to the point. Your

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<v Speaker 1>point actually that these misperceptions are keeping kids from giving

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<v Speaker 1>these trades an honest look. Last point. Sorry for the filibuster,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's important. Not a week goes by where I

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<v Speaker 1>don't get a call like the one I just got

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<v Speaker 1>from the Blue Forge Alliance. These guys represent fifteen thousand

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<v Speaker 1>companies who collectively build our submarines. They've got to deliver

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<v Speaker 1>three per year to the US Navy. I'm talking Virginia

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<v Speaker 1>class in Columbia Class subs. Incredibly complicated and really really

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<v Speaker 1>important part of our national defense. These guys called me.

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<v Speaker 1>I swear to god, I'm not making it up. They said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're having a hell of a time finding tradespeople. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you help us? I said, maybe, how many do you need?

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<v Speaker 1>They said one hundred and forty thousand? One hundred forty thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>They said, we've looked everywhere. Do you know where they are?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, yeah, man, I do know where they are.

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<v Speaker 1>They're in the eighth grade. And that's what we're dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with now. Not a week goes I've heard from the

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<v Speaker 1>automotive industry eighty thousand openings in collision repair and technical jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>The energy industry, my god, don't even get me started.

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<v Speaker 1>Three hundred thousand openings at least welder's electricians. I just talked.

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<v Speaker 1>Was at a conference, the Aspen Ideas Festival, whatever that is.

475
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<v Speaker 1>But I was there and I listened to the CEO

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<v Speaker 1>of Blackrock and Wells Fargo talk about the need for

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<v Speaker 1>half a million electricians. So these guys got the memo Jesse.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's out there and you can start to

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<v Speaker 1>see the ship turn around. But the bottom line is

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunities are real. Scholarship money is available. The country

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<v Speaker 1>needs enthusiastic skilled workers way more than we need enthusiastic

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<v Speaker 1>paralegals and actuarial accountants. With all due respect to those vocations.

483
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<v Speaker 1>Is coming. AI is here. Those jobs are in peril.

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<v Speaker 1>Plumbers and electricians job security like I've never seen before.

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<v Speaker 3>He is Mike Rowe. I am a fan of Mike.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't heart they ever have guests on my show.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a very rare thing. You can come join me

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<v Speaker 3>anytime you want. This is what young men need. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to point this out microworks dot org, mikerowworks dot org. Parents,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you're scrambling there right now. Go Mike. I

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate you very much. My brother come back soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate you too.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a great uh and happy independence.

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<v Speaker 3>Day, you too, How about that? We'll be back. Is

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<v Speaker 3>the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent Thursday. Smile, put

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<v Speaker 3>a smile on your face. It's you can almost sniff

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<v Speaker 3>Independence Day from here, although honestly that might just be Chris.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm smelling it's Independence Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Eve.

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<v Speaker 3>You can email the show Jesse at Jesse Kelly show

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<v Speaker 3>dot com. Now, as promised, let's discuss because somebody emailed

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<v Speaker 3>in and it may sound basic, A lot of it

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<v Speaker 3>may be basic, but people don't know the difference between

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<v Speaker 3>the House and the Senate, and you know which group

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<v Speaker 3>is worse for rhinos and whatnot. Well, first let's discuss this.

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<v Speaker 3>The founders of the country. They were obviously obsessed with

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<v Speaker 3>ensuring people could be free and would remain free. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's easy to pick at the constitution today, Declaration as

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<v Speaker 3>the Independence Constitution, all those things, But keep in mind

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<v Speaker 3>what a daunting task it is not to create a

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<v Speaker 3>government for the moment. To create a government that will last,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to create a government that it's not just

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<v Speaker 3>good for seventeen seventy six, is this kind of government?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it gonna be okay? In eighteen seventy six, In

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen seven twenty six. What are we dealing with here?

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<v Speaker 3>And one of their challenges was, how do we ensure

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<v Speaker 3>smaller states don't get smashed by larger states? Because even

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<v Speaker 3>back then there were rich, powerful states like New York.

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<v Speaker 3>How do we ensure that smaller states and their desires

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<v Speaker 3>don't get trampled by the larger states and their desires,

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<v Speaker 3>while at the same time ensuring that the population is

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<v Speaker 3>properly represented. And let's pause on this for a moment,

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<v Speaker 3>because maybe you're thinking, well, they were all unified back then.

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to know something A lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>actually don't know this religion, various forms of Christianity. They

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<v Speaker 3>were different state to state back then, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>mean small differences. There were Quakers and there were Presbyterians,

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<v Speaker 3>and there were multiple So one state would have, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>this is their belief system, and the other state would

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<v Speaker 3>have this belief system. They did not always get along.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, they were at each other's throats a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>From the outside looking in, probably for someone like Chris,

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of looks crazy. I don't get it. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the Bible, it's Jesus. Why aren't you getting along? And honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of think the same thing lots of times,

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<v Speaker 3>but just know that it did matter to them. So

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<v Speaker 3>there were big differences, religious differences, a central banking differences,

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<v Speaker 3>all kinds of differences back then. How do you set

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<v Speaker 3>up a government where the people are represented equally? So

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<v Speaker 3>everybody will have a member of the House of Representatives.

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<v Speaker 3>He represents so many people, and the small states don't

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<v Speaker 3>get stomped by the big states. That that small states

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<v Speaker 3>not getting stomped by the big states. That's why they

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<v Speaker 3>gave us the Senate. That's why Montana it's the same

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<v Speaker 3>number of senators as California. That's why Delaware gets the

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<v Speaker 3>same number of senators as New York. When it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to the Senate, large or small, the states have equality

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<v Speaker 3>with their representation. Now, let's discuss what we talked about

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<v Speaker 3>before about how it's so different now than it was then.

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<v Speaker 3>Senators get elected how now by vote, by a statewide vote.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you want to get elected senator in Arizona,

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<v Speaker 3>all the citizens of Arizona will go decide, well, I

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<v Speaker 3>want this person to be my senator. That is not

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely not how it was supposed to be in this

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<v Speaker 3>country before the Seventeenth Amendment. The state legislators, they would

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<v Speaker 3>pick a senator to go represent them in Washington. DC

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<v Speaker 3>created a completely different type of representation in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's not talk about what it was. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 3>about what it is now. Because you asked, who are

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<v Speaker 3>the worse rhyows, what are the different things? Well, you

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<v Speaker 3>could probably argue, and Thomas Jefferson would argue this, that

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<v Speaker 3>the House is more powerful, at least should be more powerful,

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<v Speaker 3>because the House has the power of the purse. It

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<v Speaker 3>is the House of Representatives that controls the budget, that

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<v Speaker 3>controls everything. That's how it's supposed to work. But the

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<v Speaker 3>Senate also has crucial roles to play, crucial roles to

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<v Speaker 3>play different different than the power of the purse, but

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<v Speaker 3>crucial roles like judges. Those haven't been in the news

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<v Speaker 3>at all, right, judges, Yeah, the Senate has to give

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<v Speaker 3>the old thumbs up or down on all those judges

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<v Speaker 3>who were doing all those terrible things. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>if you want a little light reading that'll make your

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<v Speaker 3>head pop off with rage, go read how many Republican

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<v Speaker 3>senators voted for these communist judges who are screwing everything

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<v Speaker 3>up or skipped the vote entirely, and them skipping the

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<v Speaker 3>vote is the reason these communist judges got approved. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>We're not having time for them. We're not doing that

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<v Speaker 3>today because that's just gonna make me angry. Now, you

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<v Speaker 3>ask which group of people are the worst rhino wise,

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<v Speaker 3>it's always the senators. I know there are bad members

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<v Speaker 3>of the House, but I've said this before, I'll say

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<v Speaker 3>it again. There is a tiny, relatively tiny cabal of

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<v Speaker 3>ten to fifteen GOP senators. Ten to fifteen GOP senators.

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<v Speaker 3>They are the ones with their foot in the door,

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<v Speaker 3>holding the door open for Democrats to savage this country

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<v Speaker 3>like the animals. They are people like James Langford, Mike Rownds,

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<v Speaker 3>Bill Cassidy, John Dune, Mitch McConnell, John Corny, I could

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<v Speaker 3>go down the list, Curtis, the Lindsay Landy, Graham, all

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<v Speaker 3>of them. They are the ones, you know, they'll give

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<v Speaker 3>you a little win here and a little win there,

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<v Speaker 3>and a little win here and right when we get

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<v Speaker 3>to that crucial moment where we can drop the hammer

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<v Speaker 3>on communism and stop it boot stop it right then

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<v Speaker 3>and there, that's one of those step boh guys, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>lnsy Graham. We can't do that. I'd rather bomb. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>rather bomb every country on the planet than stop American communism.

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<v Speaker 3>The Senate is where the rhinoes are, and that's why

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<v Speaker 3>it's so beneficial that we are getting rid of them.

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<v Speaker 3>The Tom Tillis's John corn and I believe is going

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<v Speaker 3>to lose his primary. In fact, he probably will drop

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<v Speaker 3>out ahead of time. Another thing to feel good about. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do another hour, Let's do all kinds of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>What would the show be like if Chris left China

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<v Speaker 3>in the twenty twenty election.
