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Speaker 1: World of Cougar Athletics.

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Speaker 2: Here from players, coaches and experts on all the latest

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happenings with the Krugers.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in the Sports one of three nine ninety

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eight point three ESPN the Fan. I'm been Colonel broadcasting

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from our ultimate tailgamer just south of Lavelle Eedwards Stadium

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at the Swig.

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Speaker 1: Come on buy the Loo Royal Army brand.

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Speaker 3: He's in attendance. We have Breck Tech out here cooking

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up a storm.

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Speaker 1: Getting yourself.

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Speaker 3: Get yourself some delicious and nutritious pulled pork. We love

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giving you Cougar Sports commentary prior to kickoff. We appreciate

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you being a part of our pregame show, the Holy War.

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Speaker 1: Edition of the Pregame Show.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a fantastic event tonight at Leavell Edwards Stadium,

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six pm kickoff.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be on Fox.

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Speaker 3: If you're not attending the game, it's a sold out

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crowd over sixty four thousand. We'll converge on this fantastic venue,

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a legendary venue. But if you are watching it from home,

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it should be great. Jason Bennetti's on the play by play.

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Robert Griffin is the analyst and then Alexa Landstoy is

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the sideline reporter guys. Kyle Whittingham in his twenty first year.

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He is a BYU alum. Okay, his career record won

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seventy two and eighty seven and he's been I mean,

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it's inarguable he is the greatest head coach in Utah

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football history. Kyle Whittingham versus BYU in the rovaly. Since

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taking over as head coach, He's got eleven wins, five losses.

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By hoping to hand out his six loss this season.

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Head coach Kalani Sataki in his tenth year for BYU.

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He was an alum in two thousand. His career record

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seventy eight and forty three and he is two and

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four in the rivaly with two straight wins. He is

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hoping to give Kyle whitting Kyle Whittingham his third straight loss.

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BYU is not favored in this home game. They have

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a home field advantage with the roar of the Cougars

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and the Royal Army showing up. But BYU is a

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three and a half point dog and the over under

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I believe is at forty nine and a half now.

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Speaker 1: It opened at forty seven and a half.

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Speaker 3: Now, ESPN Analytics does give Byu a slight favorite, as

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it puts him as a slight favorite in this game,

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but only fifty point six. It's a it's a it's

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a toss up, it's a it's a coin flick by

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but which, by the way, Byu has won most of

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those those coin tosses this season. So as far as

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an injury report is concerned, Byu has a few injuries here.

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Marcus McKenzie, that one hurts, especially with your punt cover team.

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He's been an MVP on that punk cover Jojo Phillips

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out Shae Brian Straw the linebacker out, Shionimo a running

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back out, Tommy Prass's defensive back out doubtful is Raider

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De Mooney and DC Purcell is probable. And then on

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the Utah side Rabbit Evans, Nate Richie both safeties with

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starting experience. Nate Richie a big loss or the ut

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Stage' and Zipper wide receiver that's a loss for them,

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Hunter Andrews tight end, Josh Sovereign safety so three safeties

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out d n Paul Fitzgerald, linebacker Grady Morecco, and offensive

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lineman Isaiah Garcia all out. This is the ninety seventh

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meeting of the BYU and Utah teams, and Utah is

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winning the rivalry right now, but since nineteen seventy two,

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BYU's winning the rivalry.

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Speaker 1: Since Levell took over.

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Speaker 3: We have a former BYU great on the line to

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give us some of his keys to the game.

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Speaker 1: What do you got for me, Vig Graham.

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Speaker 4: Arizona State up six nothing on Texas Tech close to

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the end of the second course, seven minutes.

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Speaker 1: Just the mic up in front of you a little

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bit there, buddy, six.

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Speaker 4: Nothing Arizona State in the second quarter with just seven

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Speaker 3: There you go, Well, maybe ASU will cause a little

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chaos in the Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: Look, there's gonna be cannibalism everywhere.

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Speaker 3: There's more parody in college football than there's ever been,

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and I do believe that can be attributed to the

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free market.

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Speaker 1: The il, the transfer portal.

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, there is an element of like you know,

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the upper restaurant that are paying more than any other

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schools in Texas Tech has stated they they paid a

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lot this season. So if ASU is able to knock

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him off, that will be a goliath being slain by

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a David And who better to talk about David and

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Goliath than pastor to do we Gray?

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Speaker 1: We got de week ray on the Life Former BYU Great.

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Do we how you live in? Man?

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Speaker 2: I am doing well. Let me tell you what you

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are a professional the way you brought that in like

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David and Goliath and then have a pastor on Dude,

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you should do this for a living.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's just.

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Speaker 3: A side hustle right now, but you know, maybe one

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day it'll be the full fledged occupation for me. But

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do we love and appreciate you? Nobody does it better

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than you. I love hearing to you, hearing your sermons,

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love hearing you talk ball, and I want to.

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Speaker 1: Obviously get keys to the game.

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Speaker 3: But let's describe for koup Nation what this rivalry game

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meant to you when you were playing in it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so, I'm originally from San Antonio, Texas,

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and so my first year I didn't I didn't really

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know what was happening. But by my sophomore year, I

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knew fully what was happening. We were we were up

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at Utah Plan and like a five year old kid

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gave me the finger and I was like, man, these

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people in Utah. I take this holy war very very seriously. Now,

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when I was there the first year we played and

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we dropped seventy on them, I was four and zero

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against them. But you know now that I get to

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look back, so so you know, I love all people,

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but I don't like the University of Utah. I want

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us to beat them, and I want us to beat

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them back. Now, the reality is Utah is a very

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very good team. Their offensive line, their defensive line has

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a number of NFL players. They are big, they're physical,

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they're well coached on defense. Their line backers are incredible.

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Smith Snowden, the young man that I'm a big fan of,

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is a great corner, great nickel guy, great return guy.

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they can hurt you in the passing game. And so

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this is gonna require one of those special historic moments

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where for the freshman quarterback, we make plays we're not

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supposed to make, we have hustle plays we're not supposed

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to make, and just be incredibly physically physical. When Dan

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Pierre runs the ball, every time he runs, he has

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to pay attacks. He has to pay attacks, and by

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the third quarter, he's ready to come out because he's

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been beat up, and so it's gonna require one of

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those types of games.

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Speaker 3: This game in particular, this rival game in particular, maybe

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the most most pivotal. Why would that be, Well, they're

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in the same conference. This is only the fourth time

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in Holy War history where both teams are ranked. This

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has conference championship implications. But not only that, this may

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have CFP birth implication as well. With a new expanded,

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expanded playoff. What does that mean for BYU? In furthermore,

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Kyle Whittingham's on the brink of retirement. If he takes

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three straight losses to BYU on his way to retirement,

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that is impactful to one's legacy in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I want to I want to give

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Kyle his flowers. Of course, he's a BYU guy, lavelle guys,

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so I want to give him his flowers. He learned

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from Urban Meyer, he learned from coach Edwards, Utah phenomenal program.

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he loses three in a row to BYU that it

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affects his legacy. Maybe in a short term, but in

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long term he took that team to the Pac ten

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at the time and had a credible run. I do

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believe there's more pressure on Utah to win the game

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than BYU. And as a result of that early on,

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that may create some turnovers for Utah, maybe a bad pass,

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maybe a messed up snap, maybe a RPO handoff the

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falls on the ground. And so I do think they

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have more pressure because you know, they're three and a

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half point favorites on the road, So that could play

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into BYU's hands. And also it could put a chip

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on their shoulders and say, hey, they're coming into our house.

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We're six and oho, we've beaten them two times in

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a row and we're underdogs. That gives you incredible motivation.

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You hit harder, you run faster, you have more endurance,

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Your intensity allows you to execute more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great breakdown, And I do think that

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there is a little bit more of a sense of

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urgency and more pressure on the University of Utah to

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win this game. And you under how that will play

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out schematically, personnel allocation wise, implementation wise. Under the lights

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of leavel BYU's been really good at home as well

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as in night games. They call BYU the Vampire Cougars,

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I don't know why b Way you play so well

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at night Any idea on that. I mean, you used

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to playing the day games when you guys were dominant.

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Any idea why b Way you play so well under

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the lights of level in.

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Speaker 1: The night games.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the first thing, it starts with the rock.

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I mean, the student session section is ridiculous. I think

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all eyes are on BYU. I think Kline does a

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great job of getting his team prepared to play. And

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there's just something special about Lavelle at work stadium at

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night with the rock, with the intensity the home BYU's

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home crowd is six points right off the gate. And

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if they can get b to a lead going in

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a halftime because of creating false starts and illegal procedures

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and those types of things, that is they are the

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twelfth Man.

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Speaker 3: Literally, Well, they do great work, there's no doubt about it.

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the modern era. Like I don't know how loud Lavelle

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was when you were playing, right, Like I wasn't there.

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was pretty loud when I was playing, But I.

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Speaker 1: Feel like BYU's fan base has taken.

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Speaker 3: It to the next level with their investment just vocally

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in the game right where they understand, hey, I can

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make an impact, I can determine wins and losses by

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being a fan in the stadium.

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Speaker 1: Would you agree with that assessment?

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Speaker 2: I would agree one percent. I've played in front of

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some incredible crowds, but what's happening now is legendary. I

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think that the BYU crowd, the BYU football home experience

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putting college football on notice. Not only is the landscape

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the most pristine and beautiful, not only do fans not

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get drunk in the stands and go crazy, but they recognize, hey, man,

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we are six points right off the bat, and so

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this is what I think is gonna happen to that Ben.

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I think coach Whittingham is telling his players, listen, BYU

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doesn't have the talent we have. They're not as tough

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as we are. I think they're gonna line up in

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basic football and say we're gonna run the ball down

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your throat, and then on defense, I think what they're

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gonna do is say, hey, we're gonna rush five play

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man to man because your guys can't beat us, and

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we're gonna make Bear win the game throwing the ball.

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And this is what I think is gonna take place.

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I think there's gonna be several plays in which that

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takes place. Bears gonna break the break the pocket, break

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a tackle, and get twenty something plus yards. I wouldn't

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be surprised if he ran for eighty and through for two.

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And on defense, we have to create three turnovers. We

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need a couple of short fields to get ahead of

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them and make Utah one dimensional. And if we do that,

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we got a shot to win.

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Speaker 3: I love those keys to the game from Dewey Gray

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pastor Gray here on ESPN the Fan, Get your preap,

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Get you ready for this Holy War, the ninety seventh

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Holy War, in this illustrious robbery history.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned those are your keys to the game.

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Speaker 3: Here, Dewey, A couple last things before we let you go, though,

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What if you liked about this BYU football team this year?

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Speaker 1: What stands out to you?

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you love football, good high level football. What do you

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Speaker 2: Well, on defense, I like the fact that they run

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an NFL style defense. I like the intellectual brutality. I

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like the team chemistry on offense. I like the way

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the team has come around the freshman quarterback. He is

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not a normal freshman to back. He has the it factor.

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I'm not sure what the it factor is, but when

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you see it, you know someone has it. He has

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the it factor. And tonight is going to be the

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biggest challenge of all. Will the lineman put a little

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bit more into blocking, Will the running backs run a

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little bit harder, Will the receivers run a little bit more?

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Chris routs? And then when the game is on the line,

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what is the eighteen year old freshman gonna do? Is

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the grizzly bear going to roar? I'm looking forward to

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him to roar. I haven't wanted to play in the

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football game in about thirty years. Ben. If I was

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in my twenties, i'd suit up and I would wreck

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you tell like I used to back in the day.

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And they know all about that.

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Speaker 5: They know do Gray, They know Dewey Gray, those dudes

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that had to go head to head with you, They

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know what Pastor Gray, what Dewey Gray does on the Gridiron.

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Speaker 3: My guy, you just you were slaying Golias all day,

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every day as a modern day David in my opinion,

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and you continue to pontificate on your platform from your

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podium as the pastor of the Transformation Church. Real quick,

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give us an update on Transformation Church. What you guys

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are doing over.

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Speaker 2: There, Hey, Transformation Church is great. We've baptized two hundred

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and thirty three people a couple of weeks ago at

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a local lake. Our free grocery store serves about five

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hundred people per month. We're helping to start churches all

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over Europe. And we've also in the last three years

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paid off thirty million dollars of medical debt for people

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in the Carolina's in need. And man is a it

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is a sweet, sweet season.

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Speaker 1: Well you know to that point.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've had these discussions internally with friends, with

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family members, and I feel like there is a resurgence.

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And we've talked about this on the show. Even with

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what's happening in Africa, Christianity, people are coming under Christ.

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Speaker 1: They see kind of the signs of the times. They're

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feeling these.

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Speaker 3: Signs at the time, and and they're coming under Christ.

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Speaker 1: And I think you're seeing that they're at the Transformation Church.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we have seen in the last fifteen years eight

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thousand people come to Christ through our ministry, and so

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God has been moving powerfully. And I think coming out

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of COVID also, I think as people see the other

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despair of how divided politics is, how much hate there

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is in the world. I think led by young people,

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they've seen enough and they're they're saying, I want to

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know Jesus. I want to know his love, I want

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to know his grace. I want to make an impact

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in the world with kindness and love and generosity. And

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it's happening.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Man, as Dewey says, as Patrick Gray says, worship the lamb,

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not the donkey or the elephant. I love you, Yes,

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I appreciate you do we Gray, ladies and gentlemen, thanks

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for hopping on for a special additional rivalry edition of

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 3: That's Dewy Gray, Ladies and gentlemen. We'll take a brief

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time out. We'll be back though. We're live from the

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Swig just south of LaBelle Edwards Stadium. Would love to

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