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<v Speaker 1>Karen, Yes, have you ever heard your body speak to you?

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard your body speak to me.

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<v Speaker 1>That was private information.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's a loaded questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess it won't come as a surprise to

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<v Speaker 1>you then, to know that our body has talked to

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<v Speaker 1>us all the time, and not in the way that you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about talking about hunger, stomach growling.

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<v Speaker 1>Or flatulence. No, nothing like that. Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, our bodies are talking to us all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're just not really good at listening. Okay, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what if I told you that your body has the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to tell you exactly what you need and when

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<v Speaker 1>at all times.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I wish you would tell me more clearly.

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<v Speaker 1>And what if just by listening to your body you

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<v Speaker 1>can remove obstacles and even heal yourself of some of

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<v Speaker 1>the most nefarious diseases out there.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're in luck because today we're speaking with someone

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<v Speaker 1>that's here to show us us how to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've tried everything else and you're ready to be

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<v Speaker 1>the creative director of your own life, you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>right place. Welcome to the Skeptic Metaphysicians. My name is

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<v Speaker 1>Will and I'm unlike Boulder and Scully, so we've embarked

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<v Speaker 1>in a journey of discovery. Welcome to Skeptic Medicians Classic.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the classic Skeptic Metaphysicians. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>our version of a walkdown Memory Lane as we present

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<v Speaker 1>classics from the Skeptic Metaphysician Library, warts and all. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you remember a very good friend of the shows, Leora Leone.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course I had to share this because she sent

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<v Speaker 1>me an email just yesterday that really moved me. And

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't have to do this, but she took the

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<v Speaker 1>time to send us an email. This is. This shows

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<v Speaker 1>you the kind of person that Leora is that she

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<v Speaker 1>took the time to do this. Well, a while back,

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<v Speaker 1>as some listeners will remember, I released a past life

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<v Speaker 1>regression after a lot of thought and consideration. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>sure I was going to release it, but I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Leora actually gave me a past life regression. It was

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<v Speaker 1>very successful one. I visited I think three or four

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<v Speaker 1>different lives and there's some personal stuff in there. I

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<v Speaker 1>released it as is when I finally did, but for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason I don't remember not letting Leora know. But

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<v Speaker 1>apparently I didn't that I released it, So it just

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<v Speaker 1>so happened. She was coming through some videos to put

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<v Speaker 1>together some highlights and things like that and came across

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<v Speaker 1>the regression and she got a message from her spirit guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and she felt the need to tell me what this work.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I'm going to share that with you today. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>she says, hey will infarenthes and Karen says, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you are all well. I was putting together some of

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<v Speaker 1>my interviews for highlight reels for Instagram and I came

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<v Speaker 1>across your past life regression. I didn't know you posted it. Sorry, Leora. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>while I was listening, my guides came in with a

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<v Speaker 1>message for you, and I'm very touched that they would

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<v Speaker 1>actually take the time to send her a message for me. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about you being highly evolved or elevated. Per our discussion,

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<v Speaker 1>that quote unquote cool spiritual things don't happen to you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something you would say, That's what I say all

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, she says, they told me to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that you are highly evolved, the reason being you were

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<v Speaker 1>readily able to go into past lives and did it

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<v Speaker 1>well when a lot of people have difficulties regressing and

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<v Speaker 1>they want you to know. Oh no, they want you

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<v Speaker 1>to quit trying quote unquote and allow things to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>You are already there. I know, I know, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I've heard it so many times, Leora, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you and thank your guides for sending me this message.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the universe hitting me over the head with

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<v Speaker 1>the message over and over again until finally, at some

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<v Speaker 1>point I will listen and I will learn. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>just so hard for me to just let go and

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<v Speaker 1>let things happen. What are you letting go of the

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<v Speaker 1>expectation the I want it? I want it that kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing, you know, well, you know, it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>you see something and that's not good enough and you

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<v Speaker 4>want more, and then you want more.

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<v Speaker 1>No, are we talking about my spiritual awakening or ice cream?

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<v Speaker 2>All of it? All of it?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe both? Yes? Well, yes, I am trying so Leora,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you and your guide so much for sending this

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<v Speaker 1>message along. I am going to try to stop trying

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<v Speaker 1>and allow things to happen. And if you are out

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<v Speaker 1>there like me, you are constantly trying. You so want

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<v Speaker 1>it so bad that you keep trying and things aren't happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe this message was meant for you as well. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for you to let go, stop trying, and

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<v Speaker 1>just let things happen. Now, today's special guest has over

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years working as a healer and almost twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>of teaching experience. So you know, that's a great combination

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<v Speaker 1>that she's combined several different healing modalities to help spiritual

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<v Speaker 1>people identify and remove blocks that are holding them back

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<v Speaker 1>from creating their healthiest, most successful selves. And it all

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<v Speaker 1>starts with listening to the clues that our bodies are

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<v Speaker 1>giving to us. Now, there's no way to really succinctly

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<v Speaker 1>explain what she does and how it helps people, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna let our guests explain herself. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the show, Jillian Schlager.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we are excited to have you. We should set

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<v Speaker 1>the table really quickly. Let everybody know you actually raciously

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<v Speaker 1>gifted each of us a session of your healing technique,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to talk about that a little bit later.

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<v Speaker 1>But first and foremost, let's us understand what exactly did

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about when I said there were bodies speak

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<v Speaker 1>to us.

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<v Speaker 3>You are talking about plied kinesiology or muscle testing.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, and what are the digit Yeah? Can you? Can

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<v Speaker 1>you go into a little bit more detail.

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<v Speaker 3>So plied kinesiology was actually developed by a chiropractor in

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<v Speaker 3>the nineteen sixties. He noticed that when he was talking

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<v Speaker 3>to his clients and talking about something positive or true,

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<v Speaker 3>their muscles were strong, and when he was talking with

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<v Speaker 3>something that was not true or they were fibbing about

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<v Speaker 3>something the answer was no to a question, their muscles

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<v Speaker 3>went weak. And this is across the board. So our

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<v Speaker 3>bodies will say yes to us all the time or

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<v Speaker 3>no to us all the time, and we just there

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<v Speaker 3>is a way to you listen, and that that way

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<v Speaker 3>is muscle testing.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not like your body a little voice in

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<v Speaker 1>your body is saying or it's actually you have to

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<v Speaker 1>do something. You have to test your body by doing

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<v Speaker 1>something that allows your body to speak to you through

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<v Speaker 1>the language of the body, which is physicality.

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<v Speaker 4>And you're also you're not talking about like getting butterflies

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<v Speaker 4>in your stomach or something like that, or are you

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<v Speaker 4>as well?

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<v Speaker 3>That can be I think butterflies in the stomach for

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<v Speaker 3>us could actually be a notorious.

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<v Speaker 1>A what, a no, or a yes, oh, a no,

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<v Speaker 1>or yes, yes, I thought you said a notorious. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, that's a new term. I have yarded it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like okay, So then you you physically have to ask

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<v Speaker 1>your body does this taste like chocolate? And it'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you no if you're eating vanilla. But you're not talking

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<v Speaker 1>such minute things. You're talking about like is this good

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<v Speaker 3>That kind of thing right right, Yes, we want to

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<v Speaker 3>be the conscious creator of our lives, and in so doing,

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<v Speaker 3>we want to be able to know which path is

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<v Speaker 3>our destination in mind, So.

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<v Speaker 4>How is it that your body knows these things? Like

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<v Speaker 4>if you're thinking about it and logically you know, but

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<v Speaker 4>your body is telling you no, and you're thinking yes,

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<v Speaker 4>like how does your body know better than what your

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<v Speaker 4>brain knows?

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<v Speaker 3>Excellent question, care, really good question. Our brain is usually

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<v Speaker 3>aligned and agreeing with stories, facts in quotation marks from

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<v Speaker 3>other people. So we think that we should grow up

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<v Speaker 3>and be a police officer like our mom or dad,

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<v Speaker 3>or join be a doctor, but really our soul's mission

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<v Speaker 3>is to be a chiropractor or a librarian or something different.

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<v Speaker 4>And so then like your body, it's like your physical

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<v Speaker 4>body is its own kind of consciousness that sometimes didn't

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<v Speaker 4>communicate with your brain consciousness.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, our brain is like a computer. And what doctor

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Dispensa says all the time is our body is

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<v Speaker 3>our subconscious mind.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I get that, that makes sense, But sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 4>just so hard to trust your subconscious mind or your body.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, like if you're not doing like the muscle

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<v Speaker 4>testing that that you're talking about, how would you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you wouldn't know. I guess that's why we're

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<v Speaker 2>all screwed up.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's why we're here right to talk about that,

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<v Speaker 1>because people are You can't always can't always trust your

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<v Speaker 1>intuition because your brain speaking, it's your egos, your it's

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<v Speaker 1>your mask that you're wearing. Your body. However, there's more

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<v Speaker 1>than just your subconscious Your body is your physical reality.

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<v Speaker 4>So when people say trust your gun, yeah, and really

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<v Speaker 4>trust your body, you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>Makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>And getting back to the butterflies, if we're trusting our gut. Oftentimes,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're on stage, or you're about to go on

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<v Speaker 3>a podcast or do something where you're maybe a little

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<v Speaker 3>nervous and you get those butterflies in your stomach, and

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<v Speaker 3>somebody says to you, you know, don't be afraid. They're

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<v Speaker 3>assuming that those that physiological reaction is fear, but maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it's excitement. How do you tell by muscle testing? You

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<v Speaker 3>can tell by muscle testing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so how does the muscle testing process work? You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you met with Will first and you kind of went

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<v Speaker 4>through a session with him. His experience was a little

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<v Speaker 4>different than mine, So let's talk about his first How

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<v Speaker 4>did that have that?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what's beautiful about this because it's different with everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>And we had a conversation before hitting record, and you said,

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<v Speaker 3>how much can we share? And I want to share

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<v Speaker 3>everything about as much as you guys want to share.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Everything is a little much.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, it's just a flat out like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to share everything. Well something, let's keep some

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<v Speaker 1>things private because not with our session. Our session, everything

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<v Speaker 1>that we talked about is perfectly fine. In fact, by

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<v Speaker 1>the time people listen to this, if you haven't listened

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<v Speaker 1>to a previous episode and talked about the cancer that

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<v Speaker 1>was fighting, this might be the time that you find out.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, in order to touch on that we should

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<v Speaker 1>mention the fact that you are a cancer survivor as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and through the course of several different things that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>it brought you to learning this modality.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 1>Then when you and I spoke about my immediate problem,

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<v Speaker 1>which was prostate cancer, one of the things that really

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<v Speaker 1>stood out to me was the fact that you said,

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<v Speaker 1>spoiler alert, my list biopsy showed all benign. Right, you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't see anything. I'm not necessarily saying that this is

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<v Speaker 3>I think it depends on the person and your belief

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<v Speaker 3>It dissolved and it did not come back. And this

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, And that's one of the interesting things I

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<v Speaker 1>found about your modality is that it's really about visualizing,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you physically through visualization, physically kind of bring

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<v Speaker 1>it down to I mean, the way we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>then you see is it still there? Is it gone?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel? Is it is anxiety still there?

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<v Speaker 1>What numbers are at? And it's really you learn to

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<v Speaker 1>the muscle test. And we'll go over the little trick

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<v Speaker 1>that you gave us to do the muscle test in

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. But what I can tell you is that

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<v Speaker 1>that that was high energy, high anxiety, and by when

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed like it was right around there like one, two,

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<v Speaker 1>added benefit, if nothing else, is as suddenly that anxiety,

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<v Speaker 1>that that emotion, those emotions I had in me were

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<v Speaker 1>So this thing is really good for lots of different things, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's not just now let's put in the disclaim

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<v Speaker 1>this does not substitute you talking to your medical doctor

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<v Speaker 1>and a whole deal. But this could potentially help you

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<v Speaker 1>to heal some stuff. But also it can help with

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<v Speaker 1>subconscious blockages that you have as well, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the most fun I think with creating our own reality.

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<v Speaker 3>We get this tool and there's a lot of modalities

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<v Speaker 3>a frame in the Silva method. By using the kinet

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<v Speaker 3>divination tools, we're showing our body or mind or subconscious

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<v Speaker 3>this is what's in my life. But I would like

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<v Speaker 3>this instead. So with the body as a subconscious mind,

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just say that I love that term kinetic divination.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I mentioned to you during during our with

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<v Speaker 1>a very cool term.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a lot of struggle with that name.

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<v Speaker 1>Let us struggle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh is that because I wanted to be open

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<v Speaker 3>for everyone to be comfortable to use these tools, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think there may be some people who go divination.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually story, I moved to Nova Scotia from Ontario and

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<v Speaker 3>a family member said, so, there's a health and wellness expo.

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<v Speaker 3>Why don't you phone them and see if you can

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<v Speaker 3>get a table. So I did and they said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll check you out. That's fine. So I gave them

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<v Speaker 3>my website and they went to it and they said, ooh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not a good match. They didn't let me in

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<v Speaker 3>because of the word divination.

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<v Speaker 1>You're kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love the name too, so I'm glad to

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<v Speaker 3>hear that you like it as well. But I did

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<v Speaker 3>struggle with keeping that name.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I guess for those that aren't in this space

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<v Speaker 1>that we're in right now, the term divination does have

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<v Speaker 1>a like a carnival type of imagery behind it, right

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<v Speaker 1>the gypsy on the with the crystal ball for telling

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<v Speaker 1>your future. And unfortunately there's a lot of Charlatan's out

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<v Speaker 1>there that practice this kind of yeah term around but

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<v Speaker 1>the I guess that's a challenge. Though. We are talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this from a metaphysical spiritual point of view, and

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<v Speaker 1>this does help tremendously in that sense when you take

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<v Speaker 1>out all the wo at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>this is really a great psychological tool to help you

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<v Speaker 1>to remove blocks and able to and let's back to

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<v Speaker 1>the metaphysical manifest your own reality in the way that

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think one of the greatest things about it is

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<v Speaker 3>that it's hands on. It feels like you are back

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<v Speaker 3>in the driver's seat with your body, with your subconscious

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<v Speaker 3>with your choices. It gives you a tool that you

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<v Speaker 3>can actually physically interact with, and I like.

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<v Speaker 4>There are a few different tools that you have. Because

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<v Speaker 4>my assession was a little bit different than Will's. I think, well,

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<v Speaker 4>it's about being receptive. I think I just have like

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<v Speaker 4>a stubborn ass subconscious, you know, not let any.

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<v Speaker 3>Comfort learning something.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but like there was so many of the questions

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<v Speaker 4>she was asking me, you know, is your subconscious willing

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<v Speaker 4>to and it is like no, like really I said that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is good for you. Shut up, say yes,

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<v Speaker 2>there are.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess we probably have to touch on your

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<v Speaker 1>session than Karen, because.

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<v Speaker 2>Well let's start with yours well, because there so we

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<v Speaker 2>can get the contrast.

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<v Speaker 1>Have we not been speaking about mine all this time? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Really, I mean no, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So the way that it worked for us is we

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<v Speaker 1>had a conversation ahead of time. We talked about different challenges,

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<v Speaker 1>and she has this really cool canvas that she would

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<v Speaker 1>put down keywords and help us to understand what it

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<v Speaker 1>is that we're battling. Truly at the heart of it,

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<v Speaker 1>not well, you know, I can't sleep well night, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so what's what's hidden behind it, and we dove deeper

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<v Speaker 1>into each one of those things until we've found what

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<v Speaker 1>we felt was the crux of situation. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>used a meditation, a very brief meditation. We use a

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<v Speaker 1>Silver method, And for those of you who are not

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with the Silver method, it is a really old

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<v Speaker 1>My parents were doing it when I was six five,

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<v Speaker 1>six seven years old and they taught me some of

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<v Speaker 1>the tenets from it, so it was kind of an

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<v Speaker 1>old friend to come back to something I haven't thought

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<v Speaker 1>about in a long time. But use a Silver method,

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<v Speaker 1>which is an account from three down to one, and

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<v Speaker 1>it gets you into the alpha state and there that way,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of removes any kind of blocks that you

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<v Speaker 1>ready state, which I should mention one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that you mentioned, Jillian, is that you were never able

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<v Speaker 1>to muscle test appropriately or correctly until you started doing

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<v Speaker 1>a meditation. If you were too close to it, it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't work for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, we were talking about the map of consciousness

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<v Speaker 3>and I was in a resonance of shame, which is

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<v Speaker 3>the lowest point of the map of consciousness, it's at

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<v Speaker 3>twenty megahertz. So to accurately, like doctor David Hawkins says,

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<v Speaker 3>to accurately muscle test and receive answers from our body,

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<v Speaker 3>we need to be at the energetic resonance of two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred or courage or above. So doing the Silver method

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<v Speaker 3>is one way where we can unhook from the high

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<v Speaker 3>functioning beta brain where we're trying to analyze. I'm totally analytical.

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<v Speaker 3>I analyze everything. So the Silver method allows us to

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<v Speaker 3>get into the alpha state and that detaches from the

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<v Speaker 3>beta and then we can allow ourselves to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>raise their consciousness. And the next step that you may

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<v Speaker 3>be talking about next is after the alpha breath we

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<v Speaker 3>some one, and that really jacks up the resonance of

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<v Speaker 3>our body in our mind, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what you were saying. The muscle testing never

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<v Speaker 1>worked for you unless you were in a state of gratitude.

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<v Speaker 1>And that makes a lot of sense because you are

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, i'd muscle test, I'd be dating a dude, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be like, Oh, this is the one, this is

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<v Speaker 3>is this the guy? And I'd get a yes, and

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<v Speaker 3>then we'd break up a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Later, but my body said he was the guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my body like him very much.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a family show, Jillian.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, we can actually use that.

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<v Speaker 3>I work with my clients sometimes to see where muscle

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<v Speaker 3>tests the body to see where you're actually attracting love

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<v Speaker 3>for relationships or friendships, or that job or that client

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<v Speaker 3>or that money into your life. And we should really

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<v Speaker 3>be be attracting from our hearts, and oftentimes we're not.

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<v Speaker 3>We're attracting people from different areas for different reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Which point then she had me and I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to give it away just yet, but she had me

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<v Speaker 1>do the test and I could ascertain a yes from

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<v Speaker 1>my body from a no, and based on that, we

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<v Speaker 1>narrowed it down even further. Now we need to take

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<v Speaker 1>a break, so when we come back, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about exactly how you do muscle testing so that

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<v Speaker 1>anyone listening to this right now could do it immediately

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<v Speaker 1>with positive results. And we'll also talk about why Karen's

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<v Speaker 1>maybe wasn't quite so positive. We will be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back on the skeptic and positions today. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Gillian Schlager, who who is an expert kinetic divinator.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you like I twisted that around a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little bit like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it divinator?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Divinator diviner?

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<v Speaker 1>It just reminds me of a We're talking about muscle

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<v Speaker 1>and being in contact or in tune with our bodies,

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<v Speaker 1>we can actually help remove a lot of blockages that

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<v Speaker 1>are keeping us back, not just physically, but mentally and

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<v Speaker 1>psychologically as well. And right before we went to the break,

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<v Speaker 1>we teased that we were going to teach people how

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<v Speaker 1>to muscle test. So before we go into care and session,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go ahead and put it out in the open.

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<v Speaker 1>How does someone go about testing themselves right at home?

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<v Speaker 1>Right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? So right now, and you guys can pause this,

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<v Speaker 3>take a minute and do some deep breathing to connect

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<v Speaker 3>with your body. Deep breath in, relaxing, exhaling, and visualizing

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<v Speaker 3>and repeating three three times. Taking another deep breath in

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<v Speaker 3>and exhaling, visualizing and repeating two three times. Another deep

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<v Speaker 3>breath in, and as you exhale, visualize and repeat one

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<v Speaker 3>three times and breathing normally. Imagine someone, someplace, sometimes something

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<v Speaker 3>a pet that you love unconditionally, someone something that you're

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<v Speaker 3>grateful for, and imagine that gratitude and ask that gratitude

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<v Speaker 3>to give you an image that is clear in your

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<v Speaker 3>mind of why you're grateful for that person, place, or thing,

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<v Speaker 3>and ask your brain to turn it up. Turn up

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<v Speaker 3>the gratitude, turn up the happiness, turn up the intensity

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<v Speaker 3>of that gratitude, and that this space of gratitude is

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<v Speaker 3>when you can tune in and muscle test your body.

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to ask your body for a yes or

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<v Speaker 3>no answer, but first we're going to do a baseline,

448
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<v Speaker 3>and you can do different baselines with muscle testing. One

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<v Speaker 3>of the easiest one is pinch your finger, middle finger

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<v Speaker 3>and thumb together and then loop them together so you're

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<v Speaker 3>making a chain and pinch really hard and then pull

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<v Speaker 3>against each other just to test. Have a baseline test,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you ask your body what is yes? What

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<v Speaker 3>does yes feel it? So you're going to say yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and pull against and it should stay strong, And then

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<v Speaker 3>ask your body, what does know feel like? Pinch and

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<v Speaker 3>pull yeah, and your.

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<v Speaker 1>Fingers Madearin, you have to be in a state of

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<v Speaker 1>gratitude to be thankful when you're asking the question.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing is, and I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>some men and a lot of women want to feel

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<v Speaker 3>and be strong and independent and then control and in

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<v Speaker 3>that space we're not allowing our body to feel. That

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<v Speaker 3>just a little bit of a difference between yes and no.

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<v Speaker 3>But the next one that I really love is just

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<v Speaker 3>putting your dominant hand. So if you're right with your

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<v Speaker 3>right hand, put your right hand on your clabical, your

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<v Speaker 3>color bone. Put your hands flat, your thumb, your fingers flat,

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<v Speaker 3>but raise your index finger with your other hand with

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<v Speaker 3>your just testing the baseline, pushing down and that finger

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<v Speaker 3>is going to resist the pushed. And then ask again,

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<v Speaker 3>what does yes feel like? And was no feeling? You

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<v Speaker 3>just want to Sometimes it's that little subtle difference between

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<v Speaker 3>yes and no and you connecting with your body. You're

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<v Speaker 3>allowing your body to show you what yes feels like

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<v Speaker 3>and what no feels like.

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<v Speaker 1>Karen, did that one work for you?

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<v Speaker 4>So this is the issue that we had during my session.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know if it's something about my subconscious

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<v Speaker 4>wanting to stay in control. But the thing that I

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<v Speaker 4>loved so much about Jillian was that she did not

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<v Speaker 4>give up on me. And we went through a few

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<v Speaker 4>different tests and somehow she got this information out of

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<v Speaker 4>me that was nothing like what I thought we were

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<v Speaker 4>originally going to talk about, because we kind of talked

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<v Speaker 4>about just need to feel like I can do things again,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've become invisible and I want to know be

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<v Speaker 4>this person that I used to be and now I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just it's all about me. Well, sorry, you opened the cannon.

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<v Speaker 1>So no, I wanted to be about you.

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<v Speaker 4>So by the end of the session we realized that

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<v Speaker 4>really with my my yes, Gidget, whatever, is this really

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<v Speaker 4>incredibly strong sense of emotional responsibility I have about my family,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I feel like I hold all of their emotions

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<v Speaker 4>because of me, they're holding it together, which obviously cannot

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<v Speaker 4>be the case. But when she was asking, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like subconscious or my higher self, are you willing to

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<v Speaker 4>let go of that? It was like no, because I

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<v Speaker 4>think feeling like if I let go, it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be bad for them, and I can't let that also

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<v Speaker 4>part of your idemedy and it's become such a part

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<v Speaker 4>of me. Well, me, I cry all the time, but

503
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<v Speaker 4>but this time it was like it was really it

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<v Speaker 4>was incredible and she you know, we talked about the

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<v Speaker 4>intentions and that's something I'm still doing all the time,

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<v Speaker 4>and thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>For that tool.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was really, it was just really a very

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<v Speaker 4>it was it was a great session. I mean, like

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<v Speaker 4>I said that, I was like, this isn't going to work,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I felt bad because the stuff what's working

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<v Speaker 4>for me?

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<v Speaker 3>But she never never made me fish.

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<v Speaker 4>She made me feel comfortable to say, yeah, it's not

516
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<v Speaker 4>working instead of them I feel bad, right, and then

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<v Speaker 4>to keep pushing through and figuring out a way.

518
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<v Speaker 2>To really discover what was going on and to help

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<v Speaker 2>me with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all feedback.

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<v Speaker 1>And I suppose that if you were to do this

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<v Speaker 1>in person with a kinesiologist, you put your arm out

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<v Speaker 1>and they would push it down or not. And then

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<v Speaker 1>really it's not up to you, it's to your body

526
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<v Speaker 1>either allowing it or doesn't. So this is this it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost like a psychological mind trick that you're playing on

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<v Speaker 1>yourself that you're not allowing yourself to really feel the

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<v Speaker 1>difference because it's you yourself. So I understand.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have a really fun story. I'm writing a

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<v Speaker 3>book for hey House. It's called Dancing with Shadows.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations, that's awesome, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>So kind of a preemptive. I went into school to

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<v Speaker 3>talk to the kids about bullying and what it does

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<v Speaker 3>to your body, and I had a classroom full of kids.

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<v Speaker 3>I brought one kid up to the front of the

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<v Speaker 3>class with me, and I had cards with positive and

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<v Speaker 3>negative words on them. So the one kid faced away

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<v Speaker 3>from the class, and I showed this card to the

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<v Speaker 3>class of the other kids. They read the word, they

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<v Speaker 3>did not say it. If the word was positive, and

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<v Speaker 3>they all the class was thinking the positive word and

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<v Speaker 3>projecting it think written on the kid's back. If it

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<v Speaker 3>was positive, the kid tested strong. If the word was negative,

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<v Speaker 3>the kid tested weak. And the kid never saw the word. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, that's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, just goes to show you that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>physical response that you don't have to have belief it's

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<v Speaker 1>there or it's not. I think when your brain comes

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<v Speaker 1>into it, that's when things become a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>challenging for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. We have all these stories of what we should

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<v Speaker 3>do or be, or can do or be that gets

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<v Speaker 3>in the way of us creating the life you desire.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think for me, part of it was also

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<v Speaker 4>my parents split up when I was really young, and

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<v Speaker 4>my mother heard thing was, you have to go to school,

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<v Speaker 4>you have to be independent, you have to get your career.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't need anybody. You have to be strong, strong, strong, strong,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. So maybe saying yes to everything to me

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<v Speaker 4>was more of a weakness than a strength, and like

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<v Speaker 4>you have to say no and this doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think maybe somehow my body might be a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit muddled on what's what really being strong means, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>an independent, So that might be part of it too,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's kind of been ingrained since I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>seven eight years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like you're gonna have to talk to Jillian a

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<v Speaker 1>lot coming up here.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, And there is quantum entanglement. We become entangled with

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<v Speaker 3>other people's perceptions, energy's thoughts, beliefs.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true that now you opening up a whole other

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<v Speaker 1>cannon worms that, you know, how do you disentangle yourself

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<v Speaker 1>at the quantum level?

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<v Speaker 4>Reading your Facebook posts and I love them, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>look at this.

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<v Speaker 2>All of her on Facebook?

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<v Speaker 3>She posts great stuff entangling on VICI disentangling is just

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<v Speaker 3>I eject this from my body.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you bring up that term that I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>bring up because it was so cool. We both agreed

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<v Speaker 1>that when we when you use it with us, we

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<v Speaker 1>both just up right. When we had one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things we talked about is empathy and taking other people's

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<v Speaker 1>energies or other things energies into us that doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>belong there. And you said, very simply, just when you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing these types of exercises, it's a very simple phrase

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<v Speaker 1>to tell yourself, and that is I eject all outside energy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you what. When we both had the

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<v Speaker 1>same response, that is such a powerful phrase that when

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<v Speaker 1>we say to ourselves, it gives us a sense of

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<v Speaker 1>peace and reduces the energy so much that it's become

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<v Speaker 1>our mantra now and our everyday mantra.

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<v Speaker 4>And then add to that what she told me, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I claim my body. Yes, that to me, So first

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<v Speaker 4>I eject and then I claim that's my Well.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't tell me to claim, so maybe she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want me to claim my own body.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just had more issues.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think men are raised to own our own bodies.

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<v Speaker 3>I think women, and I think the old and as

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<v Speaker 3>when we had the coming out party, we were actually claiming, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we're an adult now, we don't have that anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true, that's very true. Yeah. So then after

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<v Speaker 1>we tested, we did the muscle testing and we had

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<v Speaker 1>got a BASELINEUS, so what was yes or no? Then

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<v Speaker 1>was the fun part. Then we started asking questions about

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<v Speaker 1>that particular topic that we had narrowed it down to

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<v Speaker 1>in saying is this minus is not? Is this this

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<v Speaker 1>is that? Whatever? And then what Depending on the answers,

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<v Speaker 1>we then took it a step further, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>the visualization process, right. And I loved your image of

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<v Speaker 1>the big whiteboard, the number with the number line on it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what I was talking about earlier because my

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<v Speaker 1>particular challenge was a heavy duty number like nine ten,

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<v Speaker 1>the energy that was charged with such negative energies that

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<v Speaker 1>through with your help, I actually asked me to grab

619
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<v Speaker 1>that energy in that timeline that was nine ten and

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<v Speaker 1>physically drag it down to a one. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>had different versions. One was the timeline that was straight

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<v Speaker 1>across the whiteboard. The other one was like a like

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<v Speaker 1>a pendulum chart thank you. Pendulum chart and you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the one that helps me. That's what I

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<v Speaker 1>use as the pendulum chart. So I'm able to bring

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<v Speaker 1>it and dial it down. And I guess maybe the

627
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<v Speaker 1>act of dialing it down also psychologically helps me to

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<v Speaker 1>really own it in that sense.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you use the same I think the number line

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<v Speaker 4>worked better for me, but it was this is another thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like, you know, are you willing to give

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<v Speaker 4>some you know, let go some of this Nope, some

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<v Speaker 4>of that responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>It did change, it did get better.

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<v Speaker 4>I think my results might not have been as good

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<v Speaker 4>as yours because my sometime much more stubborn. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 4>it definitely did make a significant difference for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. In full disclosure, I was dealing with cancer, right,

639
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:04.320
<v Speaker 1>so I was very motivated to make this thing work.

640
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:08.239
<v Speaker 1>So because that motivation, whatever whatever it took, I was doing,

641
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:11.039
<v Speaker 1>I threw myself with abandon into this thing.

642
00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:15.519
<v Speaker 3>And when the desire is there, I use that to

643
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:19.519
<v Speaker 3>quit smoking, Oh wow, to quit smoking. Yeah, And I

644
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:24.280
<v Speaker 3>did it one time and it worked, but my desire

645
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:28.119
<v Speaker 3>to quit smoking was at just the highest point. Plus

646
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:31.480
<v Speaker 3>what I did in somebody anybody can use this when

647
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:34.719
<v Speaker 3>you're listening, or if you're listening right now, posit and

648
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:38.039
<v Speaker 3>think of a whiteboard in front of you. And just

649
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:42.079
<v Speaker 3>like we use the muscle testing with a finger, or

650
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:45.159
<v Speaker 3>you can use the arm for muscle testing, the whiteboard

651
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.280
<v Speaker 3>is muscle testing as well, but.

652
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:50.719
<v Speaker 1>On a quantum level. Right, because it's not your physically,

653
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:52.840
<v Speaker 1>you're not doing anything. It's all in your mind.

654
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:57.199
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it is your mind, but it is your mind

655
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:01.480
<v Speaker 3>relaying a yes or no response to your body in

656
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:05.719
<v Speaker 3>all of muscle testing. So even with a pendulum, a

657
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.440
<v Speaker 3>pendulum and any divining tool is muscle testing.

658
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<v Speaker 1>Right. You actually mentioned, and I forgot you had mentioned

659
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:15.400
<v Speaker 1>that some people get to the point where they don't

660
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:18.039
<v Speaker 1>actually have to do muscle testing. Right, you can actually

661
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:22.000
<v Speaker 1>divine it. You intuitively know what the answer is as

662
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:24.679
<v Speaker 1>you started asking questions as your energy heroes are there,

663
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:27.039
<v Speaker 1>I kept asking, but after a while it just it

664
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:29.400
<v Speaker 1>would instantly. I would instantly know. And you also did

665
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>a yes or no, So which one was lit up

666
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:35.159
<v Speaker 1>for me when you ask the question? And it's one

667
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:37.400
<v Speaker 1>of these things that it is. It's so subtle and

668
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:41.280
<v Speaker 1>so fast that if you think about it, you're going

669
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:43.199
<v Speaker 1>to get the wrong answer. Right, It's got to be

670
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:46.880
<v Speaker 1>something that is just like an immediate answer, what is

671
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:49.079
<v Speaker 1>the first answer that comes to mind? And I was

672
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:51.679
<v Speaker 1>able to jump into it. Now people say I'm Claire cognitive.

673
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:55.519
<v Speaker 1>That might be something that helped, but I suddenly started

674
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<v Speaker 1>being able to intuit the answer and it seemed to

675
00:36:57.800 --> 00:36:59.119
<v Speaker 1>have worked well for me.

676
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:01.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think using these tools again and again will

677
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<v Speaker 3>strengthen that.

678
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<v Speaker 1>Well. I've been using it almost daily since then, so

679
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:04.920
<v Speaker 1>thank you.

680
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's they're just they're easy to use. I like that.

681
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:10.840
<v Speaker 4>It's not like oh I got to do this, you know.

682
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:13.840
<v Speaker 4>It's like, oh, this mantra or this you know visualization

683
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:16.039
<v Speaker 4>and it helps a lot.

684
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:19.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so sure does. Now what kind of things can

685
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you use this for? Is there anything that you can't

686
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:21.519
<v Speaker 1>use it for?

687
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<v Speaker 3>I think the stumbling block is when you we are

688
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:34.760
<v Speaker 3>vaper emotional about something. That's when it kind of gets muddled. Yeah,

689
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:38.639
<v Speaker 3>I mean people like for you to help, right, Yeah,

690
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:42.079
<v Speaker 3>and a lot of empaths And this is why I'm

691
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:45.719
<v Speaker 3>very empathic. And I was told so many times growing

692
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:50.320
<v Speaker 3>up stop being so emotional. And I thought, when I

693
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:55.440
<v Speaker 3>was older, there has to be a reason our bodies

694
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:59.159
<v Speaker 3>are so smart, so there needs to be there has

695
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:02.599
<v Speaker 3>to be a real and for these emotions. So this

696
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:05.679
<v Speaker 3>is a way that we can use our emotions as feedback.

697
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:10.920
<v Speaker 3>But if we're a highly emotional about something, so yesterday

698
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:15.079
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't find my cat, and I had seen a

699
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:18.920
<v Speaker 3>car outside my neighbor's house yesterday afternoon and I thought

700
00:38:18.920 --> 00:38:21.639
<v Speaker 3>I heard them say, oh, we'll just we'll just take them.

701
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:23.239
<v Speaker 3>We'll put them in the cart and we'll take them.

702
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:26.320
<v Speaker 3>And then a few hours later I couldn't find my cat.

703
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:28.440
<v Speaker 3>So my brain went to go, oh my god, it's

704
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:31.679
<v Speaker 3>something me steal my cat. I was so highly emotional

705
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:34.639
<v Speaker 3>there was no way I could muscle test. So I

706
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:39.880
<v Speaker 3>just waited, calmed down, intended for the best possible who

707
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:42.440
<v Speaker 3>come in. Then he came in a few hours later.

708
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, acquiring minds need to know where.

709
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:47.639
<v Speaker 2>Is the cat? It is hard.

710
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 3>I think that was the issue that I had.

711
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I was so emotional about everything.

712
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:54.559
<v Speaker 4>And you know it's like, you know, well, you're focused

713
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:56.559
<v Speaker 4>on you know, getting rid of the cancer, and that's

714
00:38:56.559 --> 00:38:59.960
<v Speaker 4>something that you desperately want and it's only a good outcome.

715
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:03.599
<v Speaker 4>But my mindset was if yes, I will feel better

716
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:06.880
<v Speaker 4>if I don't bear the responsibility of all these people's emotions,

717
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:09.920
<v Speaker 4>good for me, but bad for them because.

718
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:11.199
<v Speaker 2>They're going to be flailing, you know what I mean.

719
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:13.719
<v Speaker 4>So there was like also in my mind a negative

720
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:14.559
<v Speaker 4>outcome as well.

721
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.559
<v Speaker 2>So that's where my struggle.

722
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:19.599
<v Speaker 1>Is, right, and I think I kind of need to

723
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:25.159
<v Speaker 1>define it a little bit clearer. Yes, my motivation was

724
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:28.519
<v Speaker 1>to get rid of the cancer, but talking with Jillian

725
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:31.599
<v Speaker 1>help working with her helped me to understand that there's

726
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:36.840
<v Speaker 1>an energy behind that that could have contributed to my

727
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:40.559
<v Speaker 1>getting it absolutely, and that is the energy that we

728
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:45.440
<v Speaker 1>were trying to completely deflate. Right, So that's what I

729
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:48.960
<v Speaker 1>was thinking about when I was doing that timeline, and well,

730
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:52.360
<v Speaker 1>damn it, I'm gonna say it worked. So because then

731
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:55.280
<v Speaker 1>that that emotion that I was carrying around with me

732
00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:59.559
<v Speaker 1>is decreased tremendously. I'm hoping it says that way, but

733
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:02.599
<v Speaker 1>if it does, nah, I know how to bring it

734
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<v Speaker 1>back down.

735
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:04.119
<v Speaker 2>Well.

736
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<v Speaker 3>Coming back to thank you for that, and I'm so glad.

737
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<v Speaker 3>I'm so grateful to hear that you think that this

738
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:15.239
<v Speaker 3>could have had any impact, But it really, I believe

739
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:19.880
<v Speaker 3>does when we take control of our body, our mind,

740
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:23.000
<v Speaker 3>and our emotions. And like I said before, I was

741
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:26.239
<v Speaker 3>add an energetic resonance of twenty megaherts, which was shame.

742
00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:29.960
<v Speaker 3>They've actually done testing and found that cancer grows at

743
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:33.519
<v Speaker 3>forty two megahertz and helone. So I know that I

744
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:36.920
<v Speaker 3>was living in shame for decades, and that's such a

745
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:40.599
<v Speaker 3>motivating factor for me to come online bring these tools

746
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:44.360
<v Speaker 3>to people. I'm so passionate about not cheating anything hidden.

747
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:48.599
<v Speaker 3>I want people to know these tools because they're so simple.

748
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:50.119
<v Speaker 3>They're so simple and easy.

749
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:52.880
<v Speaker 1>It's not something that's intuitive. God forbid, someone in the

750
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>West actually says, oh, just think your cancer away.

751
00:40:58.519 --> 00:40:58.760
<v Speaker 4>Now.

752
00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Everyone who's in this who knows anything about metaphysics knows

753
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:06.960
<v Speaker 1>that it is one possible to heal yourself. There are

754
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:11.559
<v Speaker 1>full on documentaries about healing yourself. Doctor Joe Despenza himself

755
00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:15.599
<v Speaker 1>healed himself in with his mind from a terrible accident

756
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:17.719
<v Speaker 1>that he had and he talks about it all the time.

757
00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:21.159
<v Speaker 1>So it is possible, but you have to be in

758
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:23.159
<v Speaker 1>the right mindset, you have to have the right tools

759
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:25.400
<v Speaker 1>to do it. You can't just wish it away. There's

760
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:29.239
<v Speaker 1>some work you have to do, and so far we've

761
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:32.079
<v Speaker 1>done carrying a lot of different healing modalities, a lot

762
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:34.559
<v Speaker 1>and who knows which one of them. Maybe a combination

763
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:37.599
<v Speaker 1>of them all is what helped get rid of it.

764
00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:42.039
<v Speaker 1>But these tools, Jillian, that you shared with us are

765
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:47.440
<v Speaker 1>so simple and yet seemingly so powerful. Because the minute

766
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:50.639
<v Speaker 1>I walked out of this room after our session, I

767
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:53.400
<v Speaker 1>felt lighter than when I had walked into it. So,

768
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:56.840
<v Speaker 1>whether it is a placebo fact or not, I loved it.

769
00:41:56.920 --> 00:42:00.000
<v Speaker 1>And I can't advocate enough for people to reach out

770
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.760
<v Speaker 1>to you to do this for themselves, because it's nice

771
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:04.559
<v Speaker 1>to hear about it on the show. And sure you

772
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:06.840
<v Speaker 1>could practice it yourself while you're listening to this or

773
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:08.360
<v Speaker 1>watching this, but please don't do it while you're driving

774
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:12.599
<v Speaker 1>a car. But there's no substitute to actually being in

775
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:15.239
<v Speaker 1>contact with Jillian and having her walk you through it.

776
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:18.960
<v Speaker 1>She's infinitely patient, and the way that she's able to

777
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:22.159
<v Speaker 1>find her way to the root of the issue is

778
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:23.360
<v Speaker 1>nothing short of miraculous.

779
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:26.320
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I had no idea I was going a

780
00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:29.159
<v Speaker 4>completely different, completely different Yeah.

781
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, we a lot of times our worst problems are

782
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:35.280
<v Speaker 1>so hidden from us because we're too close to it.

783
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:37.880
<v Speaker 1>So this really helped to reveal a lot of things

784
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:40.119
<v Speaker 1>that I didn't realize that I was still carrying around

785
00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:40.320
<v Speaker 1>with me.

786
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

787
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

788
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:44.320
<v Speaker 4>And then another thing I liked about the session was

789
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:45.880
<v Speaker 4>she was telling me to take your life and put

790
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:48.719
<v Speaker 4>it into segments and just you know, if you're going

791
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:51.000
<v Speaker 4>to the mall, make that be a segment and then

792
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:53.159
<v Speaker 4>have an intention for that segment. So I tried it,

793
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:55.559
<v Speaker 4>and running late to pick up Sana from school, I'm like, hey,

794
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:58.199
<v Speaker 4>this is a segment that drive to school. It's normally

795
00:42:58.199 --> 00:42:59.920
<v Speaker 4>a seven minute drive and I had six minutes to

796
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:01.920
<v Speaker 4>at there. I'm like, not going to get any mid lights.

797
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:04.280
<v Speaker 4>It's going to be a great jove. I can get

798
00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:08.079
<v Speaker 4>there on time and just us hitting the last light

799
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:09.880
<v Speaker 4>because all the rest of them were being turned red,

800
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:11.960
<v Speaker 4>but it just turned green and I did not have

801
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:12.360
<v Speaker 4>to stop.

802
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:13.639
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

803
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:15.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying you can do this for everything and

804
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:16.639
<v Speaker 4>you don't want to abuse it.

805
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:18.079
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing.

806
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:21.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, Oh, I can't do this every time, but yeah,

807
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:24.440
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. The same is you're I'm there in

808
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:25.719
<v Speaker 4>six minutes instead of seven.

809
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:26.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

810
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

811
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:30.159
<v Speaker 3>Segment tinking is something that Abraham talks about a lot.

812
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:33.639
<v Speaker 3>And when you are segment intending, look at what you

813
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:40.000
<v Speaker 3>want to create, intend for and have that intuchin. So

814
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<v Speaker 3>next time and look for this and your areas that

815
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:48.519
<v Speaker 3>you're saying segment, attending or creation in general, look for

816
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:54.480
<v Speaker 3>deep positive So you don't want so if I'm attracting hurtner,

817
00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:58.119
<v Speaker 3>a friend, someone to date, I don't want to say

818
00:43:58.159 --> 00:43:59.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to I don't want a smoker. I

819
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:03.159
<v Speaker 3>say I want someone who is conscious. So I don't

820
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:08.840
<v Speaker 3>want red lights and use instead I want all green lights.

821
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<v Speaker 4>I just was like, I'm going to get there on time. Yeah,

822
00:44:11.719 --> 00:44:13.480
<v Speaker 4>I had one bit less than normal, but I was

823
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:14.280
<v Speaker 4>going to get and I did.

824
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:17.480
<v Speaker 1>That's a great, great point that we didn't talk about.

825
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:20.840
<v Speaker 1>You were very much about keeping it on the positive

826
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:24.400
<v Speaker 1>side of things, because everyone knows manifesting, you're telling the

827
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:27.440
<v Speaker 1>universe what you want, not what you don't want. And

828
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:29.880
<v Speaker 1>when we're negative, we're showing a universe what we don't want.

829
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't want red lights, Oh well.

830
00:44:33.079 --> 00:44:36.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the universe only ever says yes to you. Right,

831
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:40.199
<v Speaker 3>So you say I always get red lights, the universe

832
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:43.400
<v Speaker 3>goes yes, you'll yeah, always yeah.

833
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>And if you say I don't want red lights and

834
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:49.119
<v Speaker 1>never says okay, let's keep them not wanting red lights

835
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:50.559
<v Speaker 1>because you keep getting red lights.

836
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:53.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. The actor I was thinking about the active component

837
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:57.880
<v Speaker 3>of each sentence. We say, so the active component is

838
00:44:58.000 --> 00:44:58.440
<v Speaker 3>red light.

839
00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:00.440
<v Speaker 1>So then what you're saying is I'm going to have

840
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:02.920
<v Speaker 1>all green lights and spin it in the positive and

841
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:04.239
<v Speaker 1>that really helps. Yeah.

842
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:07.760
<v Speaker 3>Same like if you said, don't think of alving.

843
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Uh, I'm not. I'm no, I refuse.

844
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:13.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay.

845
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.760
<v Speaker 1>And I love that term segment tending.

846
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:18.079
<v Speaker 3>Segment intending.

847
00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, I put it all together as one and

848
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:21.679
<v Speaker 1>call it segment tending.

849
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:23.199
<v Speaker 3>Words up as you go along.

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00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:27.679
<v Speaker 1>You're just great. It's the language of will.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still trying to figure that out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it takes a lifetime. All right, Well, is there

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<v Speaker 1>anything that we haven't talked about? Jilli and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that we touch on before before we

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<v Speaker 1>say goodbye.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is a good place to just close out,

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<v Speaker 3>asking people to really focus on the positive and please

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<v Speaker 3>ask your body. Please use your body and your emotions

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<v Speaker 3>as feedback. See the life that you see in front

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<v Speaker 3>of you as feedback, not the end result. And be

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<v Speaker 3>brave to chiggers what you actually desire.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great, that's great.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you are not understanding your body language, contact Tilian.

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<v Speaker 3>She can translate.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the body whisperer is, but the muscle I guess

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<v Speaker 1>muscle whisper is probably a better term. Well, Jillian, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't thank you enough, not only for coming on the

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<v Speaker 1>show today and sharing of your wisdom, but also for

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<v Speaker 1>sitting with us individually and helping us to go through

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<v Speaker 1>these things and maybe helping me to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>my cancer. So let's keep that positive. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>And if someone wanted to reach out to you to connect,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the very best way for them to do that?

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<v Speaker 3>And the best way I'm always on Facebook, so you

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<v Speaker 3>can helme reach out on my main Facebook page, or

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<v Speaker 3>I have a website that's chileanligger dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Easypsy. We're going to add direct links to Gillian's website

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<v Speaker 1>and social media on our show notes, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>just go to Skepticmanaposition dot com find her episode right

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<v Speaker 1>there in her episode show notes you'll see the links

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<v Speaker 1>directly there. It's just a click away. Again, Jillian, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much. Thrilled to have you on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure we're to stay in touch for sure, and.

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<v Speaker 4>We're excited to see that book when it's done.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and when you have the book, let us know

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<v Speaker 1>so we can just put it on our show notes

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<v Speaker 1>as well. We'll add a link to it.

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<v Speaker 3>I will thank you so much. It's been great chat. Guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, my name is Bob and I am getting in

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<v Speaker 5>touch to you guys about the Judah Collective podcast I

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<v Speaker 5>just listened to today. There is a study that was

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<v Speaker 5>done by the Monroe Institute and it was called the

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<v Speaker 5>Explorer Files. It was from nineteen seventy four to nineteen ninety.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's a collective of about thirty different tests

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<v Speaker 5>over in these years. And when the Judah Collective, when

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<v Speaker 5>the lady went into the spiritual world.

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<v Speaker 1>The way that she spoke, it almost gives me chills.

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<v Speaker 5>The extreme resemblance how they speak from how she does

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<v Speaker 5>versus this study in the Explorer Files. I would greatly

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<v Speaker 5>greatly recommend listening to them, and I'll try to send

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<v Speaker 5>you a link.

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<v Speaker 1>You just heard a voicemail message from Robert trego He

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<v Speaker 1>used the handy little voicemail application that we have on

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<v Speaker 1>our website. Go to Skepticmanavision dot com. You'll see a

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<v Speaker 1>little tab on the right hand side saying leave us

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<v Speaker 1>a voicemail. We'd love to hear from you as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So please feel free to leave us any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts that you wish and let us know whether you

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<v Speaker 1>prefer that we air it or we keep it to ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>We absolutely love feedback, as we said many many times,

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<v Speaker 1>and you probably hear it again very soon in the

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<v Speaker 1>close of the show, and would really appreciate hearing from

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<v Speaker 1>you as well, So Skepticmanavsian dot com hit the leave

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<v Speaker 1>us a voicemail tab and record your voicemail to us directly.

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<v Speaker 1>We look forward to hear from you really soon, and Bob,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for taking the time and leaving

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<v Speaker 1>us a voicemail and then the follow up link that

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<v Speaker 1>you promised in the audio. We got it and we

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to check it out. Thanks again, well thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for coming along on this journey discovery with us. We'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to continue our conversation with you on our website

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<v Speaker 1>at Skeptic Metaphysician dot com or on Facebook and Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>under a Skeptic Metaphysician podcast. If you know someone who

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<v Speaker 1>would benefit from hearing the messages we're sharing on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>do them and us a favor and share the show

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<v Speaker 1>with them. It will help get the word out about

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<v Speaker 1>us and it may just change someone's life for the better.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're listening to this on the radio and

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<v Speaker 1>you missed something, well, not to worry. All of our shows,

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<v Speaker 1>including this one, can be found at Skeptic metaphysition dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>We can also watch the videos or even send us

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<v Speaker 1>an email or voicemail directly from the site. We absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>love feedback and would appreciate hearing from you. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you've enjoyed this episode as much as we have.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all for now.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you on the next episode of Dyskeptic Metaphysicians.

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<v Speaker 1>Until then, take care,
