Speaker 1: Karen, Yes, have you ever heard your body speak to you?
Speaker 2: I've heard your body speak to me.
Speaker 1: That was private information.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a loaded questions.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess it won't come as a surprise to
Speaker 1: you then, to know that our body has talked to
Speaker 1: us all the time, and not in the way that you're.
Speaker 2: Talking about talking about hunger, stomach growling.
Speaker 1: Or flatulence. No, nothing like that. Absolutely not.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: In fact, our bodies are talking to us all the time,
Speaker 1: but we're just not really good at listening. Okay, Now,
Speaker 1: what if I told you that your body has the
Speaker 1: ability to tell you exactly what you need and when
Speaker 1: at all times.
Speaker 2: Well, I wish you would tell me more clearly.
Speaker 1: And what if just by listening to your body you
Speaker 1: can remove obstacles and even heal yourself of some of
Speaker 1: the most nefarious diseases out there.
Speaker 3: That would be incredible.
Speaker 1: Well, you're in luck because today we're speaking with someone
Speaker 1: that's here to show us us how to do that.
Speaker 1: If you've tried everything else and you're ready to be
Speaker 1: the creative director of your own life, you're in the
Speaker 1: right place. Welcome to the Skeptic Metaphysicians. My name is
Speaker 1: Will and I'm unlike Boulder and Scully, so we've embarked
Speaker 1: in a journey of discovery. Welcome to Skeptic Medicians Classic.
Speaker 1: You are listening to the classic Skeptic Metaphysicians. Welcome to
Speaker 1: our version of a walkdown Memory Lane as we present
Speaker 1: classics from the Skeptic Metaphysician Library, warts and all. Can
Speaker 1: you remember a very good friend of the shows, Leora Leone.
Speaker 1: Of course I had to share this because she sent
Speaker 1: me an email just yesterday that really moved me. And
Speaker 1: she didn't have to do this, but she took the
Speaker 1: time to send us an email. This is. This shows
Speaker 1: you the kind of person that Leora is that she
Speaker 1: took the time to do this. Well, a while back,
Speaker 1: as some listeners will remember, I released a past life
Speaker 1: regression after a lot of thought and consideration. I wasn't
Speaker 1: sure I was going to release it, but I did.
Speaker 1: Leora actually gave me a past life regression. It was
Speaker 1: very successful one. I visited I think three or four
Speaker 1: different lives and there's some personal stuff in there. I
Speaker 1: released it as is when I finally did, but for
Speaker 1: some reason I don't remember not letting Leora know. But
Speaker 1: apparently I didn't that I released it, So it just
Speaker 1: so happened. She was coming through some videos to put
Speaker 1: together some highlights and things like that and came across
Speaker 1: the regression and she got a message from her spirit guys,
Speaker 1: and she felt the need to tell me what this work.
Speaker 1: And now I'm going to share that with you today. Okay,
Speaker 1: she says, hey will infarenthes and Karen says, I hope
Speaker 1: you are all well. I was putting together some of
Speaker 1: my interviews for highlight reels for Instagram and I came
Speaker 1: across your past life regression. I didn't know you posted it. Sorry, Leora. Anyway,
Speaker 1: while I was listening, my guides came in with a
Speaker 1: message for you, and I'm very touched that they would
Speaker 1: actually take the time to send her a message for me. Well,
Speaker 1: it's about you being highly evolved or elevated. Per our discussion,
Speaker 1: that quote unquote cool spiritual things don't happen to you.
Speaker 2: That's something you would say, That's what I say all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, she says, they told me to tell you
Speaker 1: that you are highly evolved, the reason being you were
Speaker 1: readily able to go into past lives and did it
Speaker 1: well when a lot of people have difficulties regressing and
Speaker 1: they want you to know. Oh no, they want you
Speaker 1: to quit trying quote unquote and allow things to happen.
Speaker 1: You are already there. I know, I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know. I've heard it so many times, Leora, thank
Speaker 1: you and thank your guides for sending me this message.
Speaker 1: It's like the universe hitting me over the head with
Speaker 1: the message over and over again until finally, at some
Speaker 1: point I will listen and I will learn. But it's
Speaker 1: just so hard for me to just let go and
Speaker 1: let things happen. What are you letting go of the
Speaker 1: expectation the I want it? I want it that kind of.
Speaker 4: Thing, you know, well, you know, it's kind of like
Speaker 4: you see something and that's not good enough and you
Speaker 4: want more, and then you want more.
Speaker 1: No, are we talking about my spiritual awakening or ice cream?
Speaker 2: All of it? All of it?
Speaker 1: Maybe both? Yes? Well, yes, I am trying so Leora,
Speaker 1: thank you and your guide so much for sending this
Speaker 1: message along. I am going to try to stop trying
Speaker 1: and allow things to happen. And if you are out
Speaker 1: there like me, you are constantly trying. You so want
Speaker 1: it so bad that you keep trying and things aren't happening.
Speaker 1: Maybe this message was meant for you as well. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's time for you to let go, stop trying, and
Speaker 1: just let things happen. Now, today's special guest has over
Speaker 1: thirty years working as a healer and almost twenty years
Speaker 1: of teaching experience. So you know, that's a great combination
Speaker 1: that she's combined several different healing modalities to help spiritual
Speaker 1: people identify and remove blocks that are holding them back
Speaker 1: from creating their healthiest, most successful selves. And it all
Speaker 1: starts with listening to the clues that our bodies are
Speaker 1: giving to us. Now, there's no way to really succinctly
Speaker 1: explain what she does and how it helps people, so
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let our guests explain herself. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the show, Jillian Schlager.
Speaker 3: Hello, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Now we are excited to have you. We should set
Speaker 1: the table really quickly. Let everybody know you actually raciously
Speaker 1: gifted each of us a session of your healing technique,
Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about that a little bit later.
Speaker 1: But first and foremost, let's us understand what exactly did
Speaker 1: I talk about when I said there were bodies speak
Speaker 1: to us.
Speaker 3: You are talking about plied kinesiology or muscle testing.
Speaker 1: Ah, and what are the digit Yeah? Can you? Can
Speaker 1: you go into a little bit more detail.
Speaker 3: So plied kinesiology was actually developed by a chiropractor in
Speaker 3: the nineteen sixties. He noticed that when he was talking
Speaker 3: to his clients and talking about something positive or true,
Speaker 3: their muscles were strong, and when he was talking with
Speaker 3: something that was not true or they were fibbing about
Speaker 3: something the answer was no to a question, their muscles
Speaker 3: went weak. And this is across the board. So our
Speaker 3: bodies will say yes to us all the time or
Speaker 3: no to us all the time, and we just there
Speaker 3: is a way to you listen, and that that way
Speaker 3: is muscle testing.
Speaker 1: So it's not like your body a little voice in
Speaker 1: your body is saying or it's actually you have to
Speaker 1: do something. You have to test your body by doing
Speaker 1: something that allows your body to speak to you through
Speaker 1: the language of the body, which is physicality.
Speaker 4: And you're also you're not talking about like getting butterflies
Speaker 4: in your stomach or something like that, or are you
Speaker 4: as well?
Speaker 3: That can be I think butterflies in the stomach for
Speaker 3: us could actually be a notorious.
Speaker 1: A what, a no, or a yes, oh, a no,
Speaker 1: or yes, yes, I thought you said a notorious. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's a new term. I have yarded it.
Speaker 1: Like okay, So then you you physically have to ask
Speaker 1: your body does this taste like chocolate? And it'll tell
Speaker 1: you no if you're eating vanilla. But you're not talking
Speaker 1: such minute things. You're talking about like is this good
Speaker 1: for me or not?
Speaker 3: That kind of thing right right, Yes, we want to
Speaker 3: be the conscious creator of our lives, and in so doing,
Speaker 3: we want to be able to know which path is
Speaker 3: the best one to go down to get us to
Speaker 3: our destination in mind, So.
Speaker 4: How is it that your body knows these things? Like
Speaker 4: if you're thinking about it and logically you know, but
Speaker 4: your body is telling you no, and you're thinking yes,
Speaker 4: like how does your body know better than what your
Speaker 4: brain knows?
Speaker 3: Excellent question, care, really good question. Our brain is usually
Speaker 3: aligned and agreeing with stories, facts in quotation marks from
Speaker 3: other people. So we think that we should grow up
Speaker 3: and be a police officer like our mom or dad,
Speaker 3: or join be a doctor, but really our soul's mission
Speaker 3: is to be a chiropractor or a librarian or something different.
Speaker 4: And so then like your body, it's like your physical
Speaker 4: body is its own kind of consciousness that sometimes didn't
Speaker 4: communicate with your brain consciousness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, our brain is like a computer. And what doctor
Speaker 3: Joe Dispensa says all the time is our body is
Speaker 3: our subconscious mind.
Speaker 4: Okay, I get that, that makes sense, But sometimes it's
Speaker 4: just so hard to trust your subconscious mind or your body.
Speaker 4: You know, like if you're not doing like the muscle
Speaker 4: testing that that you're talking about, how would you know.
Speaker 2: I guess you wouldn't know. I guess that's why we're
Speaker 2: all screwed up.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why we're here right to talk about that,
Speaker 1: because people are You can't always can't always trust your
Speaker 1: intuition because your brain speaking, it's your egos, your it's
Speaker 1: your mask that you're wearing. Your body. However, there's more
Speaker 1: than just your subconscious Your body is your physical reality.
Speaker 4: So when people say trust your gun, yeah, and really
Speaker 4: trust your body, you're right.
Speaker 2: Makes sense.
Speaker 3: And getting back to the butterflies, if we're trusting our gut. Oftentimes,
Speaker 3: if you're on stage, or you're about to go on
Speaker 3: stage to give a speed or to you know, do
Speaker 3: a podcast or do something where you're maybe a little
Speaker 3: nervous and you get those butterflies in your stomach, and
Speaker 3: somebody says to you, you know, don't be afraid. They're
Speaker 3: assuming that those that physiological reaction is fear, but maybe
Speaker 3: it's excitement. How do you tell by muscle testing? You
Speaker 3: can tell by muscle testing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so how does the muscle testing process work? You know,
Speaker 4: you met with Will first and you kind of went
Speaker 4: through a session with him. His experience was a little
Speaker 4: different than mine, So let's talk about his first How
Speaker 4: did that have that?
Speaker 3: That's what's beautiful about this because it's different with everybody.
Speaker 3: And we had a conversation before hitting record, and you said,
Speaker 3: how much can we share? And I want to share
Speaker 3: everything about as much as you guys want to share.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Everything is a little much.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: Well, no, it's just a flat out like you know,
Speaker 1: I want to share everything. Well something, let's keep some
Speaker 1: things private because not with our session. Our session, everything
Speaker 1: that we talked about is perfectly fine. In fact, by
Speaker 1: the time people listen to this, if you haven't listened
Speaker 1: to a previous episode and talked about the cancer that
Speaker 1: was fighting, this might be the time that you find out.
Speaker 1: In fact, in order to touch on that we should
Speaker 1: mention the fact that you are a cancer survivor as well,
Speaker 1: and through the course of several different things that happened,
Speaker 1: it brought you to learning this modality.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely so.
Speaker 1: Then when you and I spoke about my immediate problem,
Speaker 1: which was prostate cancer, one of the things that really
Speaker 1: stood out to me was the fact that you said,
Speaker 1: when you remove the energy from something, it can't survive.
Speaker 1: So essentially what we did was we removed the energies
Speaker 1: around that thought process and therefore that wasn't able to exist. Now,
Speaker 1: spoiler alert, my list biopsy showed all benign. Right, you
Speaker 1: couldn't see anything. I'm not necessarily saying that this is
Speaker 1: the reason. But my question to you, because we did
Speaker 1: it not very long ago, could it have worked that
Speaker 1: quickly or is this something that probably people have to
Speaker 1: wait months and years of applying this technique before something
Speaker 1: as severe as cancer would go away.
Speaker 3: I think it depends on the person and your belief
Speaker 3: and your ability to be open to change. I've had
Speaker 3: I had cancer in the past. I also had something
Speaker 3: called hydratinitis, which is cancer is nasty, but this is
Speaker 3: nasty as on a totally different level. It's where the
Speaker 3: tissue of the skin or tissue underneath the skin starts
Speaker 3: to eat itself. It's almost a flesh eating disease, and
Speaker 3: no one really knows what it is or why it occurs.
Speaker 3: And I had it for on and off for years,
Speaker 3: and I finally just got really sick of no answers,
Speaker 3: so I just tried to pull the energy out of it,
Speaker 3: and within a very short amount of time it went away.
Speaker 3: It dissolved and it did not come back. And this
Speaker 3: is something you had for years years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, And that's one of the interesting things I
Speaker 1: found about your modality is that it's really about visualizing,
Speaker 1: but with an emotional connection to it. You look at
Speaker 1: something that you're emotionally connected, there's an energy behind it,
Speaker 1: and then you physically through visualization, physically kind of bring
Speaker 1: it down to I mean, the way we talked about
Speaker 1: it was a like a dial like from one to ten,
Speaker 1: and you just take that dialogue that if you're feeling
Speaker 1: a ten, just drag it down to a one, and
Speaker 1: then you see is it still there? Is it gone?
Speaker 1: How do you feel? Is it is anxiety still there?
Speaker 1: What numbers are at? And it's really you learn to
Speaker 1: intuitively listen to your body without having to actually do
Speaker 1: the muscle test. And we'll go over the little trick
Speaker 1: that you gave us to do the muscle test in
Speaker 1: a minute. But what I can tell you is that
Speaker 1: there was a situation that the energy behind what happened
Speaker 1: at three years ago or whatever when I was diagnosed,
Speaker 1: that that was high energy, high anxiety, and by when
Speaker 1: I physically used that dial to bring it down, it
Speaker 1: was a little stubborn. It came back to probably like
Speaker 1: an eight or nine, and they hopped back up to
Speaker 1: a five, forced it back down to zero, and eventually
Speaker 1: it seemed like it was right around there like one, two,
Speaker 1: three area, which was which was great. But then the
Speaker 1: added benefit, if nothing else, is as suddenly that anxiety,
Speaker 1: that that emotion, those emotions I had in me were
Speaker 1: a lot less than it was when we first started.
Speaker 1: So this thing is really good for lots of different things, right,
Speaker 1: It's it's not just now let's put in the disclaim
Speaker 1: this does not substitute you talking to your medical doctor
Speaker 1: and a whole deal. But this could potentially help you
Speaker 1: to heal some stuff. But also it can help with
Speaker 1: subconscious blockages that you have as well, yeah.
Speaker 3: That's the most fun I think with creating our own reality.
Speaker 3: We get this tool and there's a lot of modalities
Speaker 3: that talk about seed or of the mind, or using
Speaker 3: something in front of you that you're looking at, like
Speaker 3: a frame in the Silva method. By using the kinet
Speaker 3: divination tools, we're showing our body or mind or subconscious
Speaker 3: this is what's in my life. But I would like
Speaker 3: this instead. So with the body as a subconscious mind,
Speaker 3: we're actually showing the subconscious. I want this, but I
Speaker 3: want that.
Speaker 1: Can I just say that I love that term kinetic divination.
Speaker 1: I think I mentioned to you during during our with
Speaker 1: a very cool term.
Speaker 3: I had a lot of struggle with that name.
Speaker 1: Let us struggle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh is that because I wanted to be open
Speaker 3: for everyone to be comfortable to use these tools, and
Speaker 3: I think there may be some people who go divination.
Speaker 3: Actually story, I moved to Nova Scotia from Ontario and
Speaker 3: a family member said, so, there's a health and wellness expo.
Speaker 3: Why don't you phone them and see if you can
Speaker 3: get a table. So I did and they said, well,
Speaker 3: we'll check you out. That's fine. So I gave them
Speaker 3: my website and they went to it and they said, ooh, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're not a good match. They didn't let me in
Speaker 3: because of the word divination.
Speaker 1: You're kidding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the name too, so I'm glad to
Speaker 3: hear that you like it as well. But I did
Speaker 3: struggle with keeping that name.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess for those that aren't in this space
Speaker 1: that we're in right now, the term divination does have
Speaker 1: a like a carnival type of imagery behind it, right
Speaker 1: the gypsy on the with the crystal ball for telling
Speaker 1: your future. And unfortunately there's a lot of Charlatan's out
Speaker 1: there that practice this kind of yeah term around but
Speaker 1: the I guess that's a challenge. Though. We are talking
Speaker 1: about this from a metaphysical spiritual point of view, and
Speaker 1: this does help tremendously in that sense when you take
Speaker 1: out all the wo at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: this is really a great psychological tool to help you
Speaker 1: to remove blocks and able to and let's back to
Speaker 1: the metaphysical manifest your own reality in the way that
Speaker 1: you want it to.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 3: I think one of the greatest things about it is
Speaker 3: that it's hands on. It feels like you are back
Speaker 3: in the driver's seat with your body, with your subconscious
Speaker 3: with your choices. It gives you a tool that you
Speaker 3: can actually physically interact with, and I like.
Speaker 4: There are a few different tools that you have. Because
Speaker 4: my assession was a little bit different than Will's. I think, well,
Speaker 4: it's about being receptive. I think I just have like
Speaker 4: a stubborn ass subconscious, you know, not let any.
Speaker 3: Comfort learning something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like there was so many of the questions
Speaker 4: she was asking me, you know, is your subconscious willing
Speaker 4: to and it is like no, like really I said that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 2: Like this is good for you. Shut up, say yes,
Speaker 2: there are.
Speaker 1: So I guess we probably have to touch on your
Speaker 1: session than Karen, because.
Speaker 2: Well let's start with yours well, because there so we
Speaker 2: can get the contrast.
Speaker 1: Have we not been speaking about mine all this time? Well?
Speaker 2: Really, I mean no, Okay.
Speaker 1: So the way that it worked for us is we
Speaker 1: had a conversation ahead of time. We talked about different challenges,
Speaker 1: and she has this really cool canvas that she would
Speaker 1: put down keywords and help us to understand what it
Speaker 1: is that we're battling. Truly at the heart of it,
Speaker 1: not well, you know, I can't sleep well night, right,
Speaker 1: so what's what's hidden behind it, and we dove deeper
Speaker 1: into each one of those things until we've found what
Speaker 1: we felt was the crux of situation. And then we
Speaker 1: used a meditation, a very brief meditation. We use a
Speaker 1: Silver method, And for those of you who are not
Speaker 1: familiar with the Silver method, it is a really old
Speaker 1: My parents were doing it when I was six five,
Speaker 1: six seven years old and they taught me some of
Speaker 1: the tenets from it, so it was kind of an
Speaker 1: old friend to come back to something I haven't thought
Speaker 1: about in a long time. But use a Silver method,
Speaker 1: which is an account from three down to one, and
Speaker 1: it gets you into the alpha state and there that way,
Speaker 1: it kind of removes any kind of blocks that you
Speaker 1: might have between you and your body so that you
Speaker 1: can communicate freely. And then after I was in that
Speaker 1: ready state, which I should mention one of the things
Speaker 1: that you mentioned, Jillian, is that you were never able
Speaker 1: to muscle test appropriately or correctly until you started doing
Speaker 1: a meditation. If you were too close to it, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't work for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, we were talking about the map of consciousness
Speaker 3: and I was in a resonance of shame, which is
Speaker 3: the lowest point of the map of consciousness, it's at
Speaker 3: twenty megahertz. So to accurately, like doctor David Hawkins says,
Speaker 3: to accurately muscle test and receive answers from our body,
Speaker 3: we need to be at the energetic resonance of two
Speaker 3: hundred or courage or above. So doing the Silver method
Speaker 3: is one way where we can unhook from the high
Speaker 3: functioning beta brain where we're trying to analyze. I'm totally analytical.
Speaker 3: I analyze everything. So the Silver method allows us to
Speaker 3: get into the alpha state and that detaches from the
Speaker 3: beta and then we can allow ourselves to kind of
Speaker 3: raise their consciousness. And the next step that you may
Speaker 3: be talking about next is after the alpha breath we
Speaker 3: talk about and sink and feel into the gratitude of something, someplace,
Speaker 3: some one, and that really jacks up the resonance of
Speaker 3: our body in our mind, right.
Speaker 1: And that's what you were saying. The muscle testing never
Speaker 1: worked for you unless you were in a state of gratitude.
Speaker 1: And that makes a lot of sense because you are
Speaker 1: raising your vibrations, you're vibrating a certain hurts rate that
Speaker 1: aligned you with the language of your body.
Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd muscle test, I'd be dating a dude, and
Speaker 3: I'd be like, Oh, this is the one, this is
Speaker 3: the guy. I can just feel it, and I'd muscle test,
Speaker 3: is this the guy? And I'd get a yes, and
Speaker 3: then we'd break up a week.
Speaker 1: Later, but my body said he was the guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my body like him very much.
Speaker 1: This is a family show, Jillian.
Speaker 4: Right now, we can actually use that.
Speaker 3: I work with my clients sometimes to see where muscle
Speaker 3: tests the body to see where you're actually attracting love
Speaker 3: for relationships or friendships, or that job or that client
Speaker 3: or that money into your life. And we should really
Speaker 3: be be attracting from our hearts, and oftentimes we're not.
Speaker 3: We're attracting people from different areas for different reasons.
Speaker 1: Which point then she had me and I don't want
Speaker 1: to give it away just yet, but she had me
Speaker 1: do the test and I could ascertain a yes from
Speaker 1: my body from a no, and based on that, we
Speaker 1: narrowed it down even further. Now we need to take
Speaker 1: a break, so when we come back, we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about exactly how you do muscle testing so that
Speaker 1: anyone listening to this right now could do it immediately
Speaker 1: with positive results. And we'll also talk about why Karen's
Speaker 1: maybe wasn't quite so positive. We will be right back.
Speaker 1: We're back on the skeptic and positions today. We're talking
Speaker 1: to Gillian Schlager, who who is an expert kinetic divinator.
Speaker 1: How did you like I twisted that around a.
Speaker 3: Little bit like that?
Speaker 2: Is it divinator?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Divinator diviner?
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: It just reminds me of a We're talking about muscle
Speaker 1: testing and how our body speaks to us. By speaking
Speaker 1: and being in contact or in tune with our bodies,
Speaker 1: we can actually help remove a lot of blockages that
Speaker 1: are keeping us back, not just physically, but mentally and
Speaker 1: psychologically as well. And right before we went to the break,
Speaker 1: we teased that we were going to teach people how
Speaker 1: to muscle test. So before we go into care and session,
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and put it out in the open.
Speaker 1: How does someone go about testing themselves right at home?
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So right now, and you guys can pause this,
Speaker 3: take a minute and do some deep breathing to connect
Speaker 3: with your body. Deep breath in, relaxing, exhaling, and visualizing
Speaker 3: and repeating three three times. Taking another deep breath in
Speaker 3: and exhaling, visualizing and repeating two three times. Another deep
Speaker 3: breath in, and as you exhale, visualize and repeat one
Speaker 3: three times and breathing normally. Imagine someone, someplace, sometimes something
Speaker 3: a pet that you love unconditionally, someone something that you're
Speaker 3: grateful for, and imagine that gratitude and ask that gratitude
Speaker 3: to give you an image that is clear in your
Speaker 3: mind of why you're grateful for that person, place, or thing,
Speaker 3: and ask your brain to turn it up. Turn up
Speaker 3: the gratitude, turn up the happiness, turn up the intensity
Speaker 3: of that gratitude, and that this space of gratitude is
Speaker 3: when you can tune in and muscle test your body.
Speaker 3: You're going to ask your body for a yes or
Speaker 3: no answer, but first we're going to do a baseline,
Speaker 3: and you can do different baselines with muscle testing. One
Speaker 3: of the easiest one is pinch your finger, middle finger
Speaker 3: and thumb together and then loop them together so you're
Speaker 3: making a chain and pinch really hard and then pull
Speaker 3: against each other just to test. Have a baseline test,
Speaker 3: and then you ask your body what is yes? What
Speaker 3: does yes feel it? So you're going to say yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: and pull against and it should stay strong, And then
Speaker 3: ask your body, what does know feel like? Pinch and
Speaker 3: pull yeah, and your.
Speaker 1: Fingers Madearin, you have to be in a state of
Speaker 1: gratitude to be thankful when you're asking the question.
Speaker 3: The other thing is, and I think a lot of
Speaker 3: some men and a lot of women want to feel
Speaker 3: and be strong and independent and then control and in
Speaker 3: that space we're not allowing our body to feel. That
Speaker 3: just a little bit of a difference between yes and no.
Speaker 3: But the next one that I really love is just
Speaker 3: putting your dominant hand. So if you're right with your
Speaker 3: right hand, put your right hand on your clabical, your
Speaker 3: color bone. Put your hands flat, your thumb, your fingers flat,
Speaker 3: but raise your index finger with your other hand with
Speaker 3: your just testing the baseline, pushing down and that finger
Speaker 3: is going to resist the pushed. And then ask again,
Speaker 3: what does yes feel like? And was no feeling? You
Speaker 3: just want to Sometimes it's that little subtle difference between
Speaker 3: yes and no and you connecting with your body. You're
Speaker 3: allowing your body to show you what yes feels like
Speaker 3: and what no feels like.
Speaker 1: Karen, did that one work for you?
Speaker 4: So this is the issue that we had during my session.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if it's something about my subconscious
Speaker 4: wanting to stay in control. But the thing that I
Speaker 4: loved so much about Jillian was that she did not
Speaker 4: give up on me. And we went through a few
Speaker 4: different tests and somehow she got this information out of
Speaker 4: me that was nothing like what I thought we were
Speaker 4: originally going to talk about, because we kind of talked
Speaker 4: about just need to feel like I can do things again,
Speaker 4: and I've become invisible and I want to know be
Speaker 4: this person that I used to be and now I'm
Speaker 4: just it's all about me. Well, sorry, you opened the cannon.
Speaker 1: So no, I wanted to be about you.
Speaker 4: So by the end of the session we realized that
Speaker 4: really with my my yes, Gidget, whatever, is this really
Speaker 4: incredibly strong sense of emotional responsibility I have about my family,
Speaker 4: Like I feel like I hold all of their emotions
Speaker 4: because of me, they're holding it together, which obviously cannot
Speaker 4: be the case. But when she was asking, you know,
Speaker 4: like subconscious or my higher self, are you willing to
Speaker 4: let go of that? It was like no, because I
Speaker 4: think feeling like if I let go, it's going to
Speaker 4: be bad for them, and I can't let that also
Speaker 4: part of your idemedy and it's become such a part
Speaker 4: of me. Well, me, I cry all the time, but
Speaker 4: but this time it was like it was really it
Speaker 4: was incredible and she you know, we talked about the
Speaker 4: intentions and that's something I'm still doing all the time,
Speaker 4: and thank you so much.
Speaker 3: For that tool.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 4: But it was really, it was just really a very
Speaker 4: it was it was a great session. I mean, like
Speaker 4: I said that, I was like, this isn't going to work,
Speaker 4: and then I felt bad because the stuff what's working
Speaker 4: for me?
Speaker 3: But she never never made me fish.
Speaker 4: She made me feel comfortable to say, yeah, it's not
Speaker 4: working instead of them I feel bad, right, and then
Speaker 4: to keep pushing through and figuring out a way.
Speaker 2: To really discover what was going on and to help
Speaker 2: me with that.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: It's all feedback.
Speaker 1: And I suppose that if you were to do this
Speaker 1: in person with a kinesiologist, you put your arm out
Speaker 1: and they would push it down or not. And then
Speaker 1: really it's not up to you, it's to your body
Speaker 1: either allowing it or doesn't. So this is this it's
Speaker 1: almost like a psychological mind trick that you're playing on
Speaker 1: yourself that you're not allowing yourself to really feel the
Speaker 1: difference because it's you yourself. So I understand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a really fun story. I'm writing a
Speaker 3: book for hey House. It's called Dancing with Shadows.
Speaker 1: Congratulations, that's awesome, Thank you.
Speaker 3: So kind of a preemptive. I went into school to
Speaker 3: talk to the kids about bullying and what it does
Speaker 3: to your body, and I had a classroom full of kids.
Speaker 3: I brought one kid up to the front of the
Speaker 3: class with me, and I had cards with positive and
Speaker 3: negative words on them. So the one kid faced away
Speaker 3: from the class, and I showed this card to the
Speaker 3: class of the other kids. They read the word, they
Speaker 3: did not say it. If the word was positive, and
Speaker 3: they all the class was thinking the positive word and
Speaker 3: projecting it think written on the kid's back. If it
Speaker 3: was positive, the kid tested strong. If the word was negative,
Speaker 3: the kid tested weak. And the kid never saw the word. Wow.
Speaker 2: Interesting, that's incredible.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, just goes to show you that there's a
Speaker 1: physical response that you don't have to have belief it's
Speaker 1: there or it's not. I think when your brain comes
Speaker 1: into it, that's when things become a little bit more
Speaker 1: challenging for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah. We have all these stories of what we should
Speaker 3: do or be, or can do or be that gets
Speaker 3: in the way of us creating the life you desire.
Speaker 4: And I think for me, part of it was also
Speaker 4: my parents split up when I was really young, and
Speaker 4: my mother heard thing was, you have to go to school,
Speaker 4: you have to be independent, you have to get your career.
Speaker 4: You don't need anybody. You have to be strong, strong, strong, strong,
Speaker 4: you know. So maybe saying yes to everything to me
Speaker 4: was more of a weakness than a strength, and like
Speaker 4: you have to say no and this doesn't work.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think maybe somehow my body might be a little
Speaker 4: bit muddled on what's what really being strong means, you know,
Speaker 4: an independent, So that might be part of it too,
Speaker 4: Like it's kind of been ingrained since I was, you know,
Speaker 4: seven eight years old.
Speaker 1: Sounds like you're gonna have to talk to Jillian a
Speaker 1: lot coming up here.
Speaker 3: Well, And there is quantum entanglement. We become entangled with
Speaker 3: other people's perceptions, energy's thoughts, beliefs.
Speaker 1: That's true that now you opening up a whole other
Speaker 1: cannon worms that, you know, how do you disentangle yourself
Speaker 1: at the quantum level?
Speaker 4: Reading your Facebook posts and I love them, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: look at this.
Speaker 2: All of her on Facebook?
Speaker 3: She posts great stuff entangling on VICI disentangling is just
Speaker 3: I eject this from my body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you bring up that term that I wouldn't
Speaker 1: bring up because it was so cool. We both agreed
Speaker 1: that when we when you use it with us, we
Speaker 1: both just up right. When we had one of the
Speaker 1: things we talked about is empathy and taking other people's
Speaker 1: energies or other things energies into us that doesn't really
Speaker 1: belong there. And you said, very simply, just when you're
Speaker 1: doing these types of exercises, it's a very simple phrase
Speaker 1: to tell yourself, and that is I eject all outside energy.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what. When we both had the
Speaker 1: same response, that is such a powerful phrase that when
Speaker 1: we say to ourselves, it gives us a sense of
Speaker 1: peace and reduces the energy so much that it's become
Speaker 1: our mantra now and our everyday mantra.
Speaker 4: And then add to that what she told me, you know,
Speaker 4: I claim my body. Yes, that to me, So first
Speaker 4: I eject and then I claim that's my Well.
Speaker 1: She didn't tell me to claim, so maybe she didn't
Speaker 1: want me to claim my own body.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just had more issues.
Speaker 3: But I think men are raised to own our own bodies.
Speaker 3: I think women, and I think the old and as
Speaker 3: when we had the coming out party, we were actually claiming, hey,
Speaker 3: we're an adult now, we don't have that anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, that's very true. Yeah. So then after
Speaker 1: we tested, we did the muscle testing and we had
Speaker 1: got a BASELINEUS, so what was yes or no? Then
Speaker 1: was the fun part. Then we started asking questions about
Speaker 1: that particular topic that we had narrowed it down to
Speaker 1: in saying is this minus is not? Is this this
Speaker 1: is that? Whatever? And then what Depending on the answers,
Speaker 1: we then took it a step further, and that was
Speaker 1: the visualization process, right. And I loved your image of
Speaker 1: the big whiteboard, the number with the number line on it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's what I was talking about earlier because my
Speaker 1: particular challenge was a heavy duty number like nine ten,
Speaker 1: the energy that was charged with such negative energies that
Speaker 1: through with your help, I actually asked me to grab
Speaker 1: that energy in that timeline that was nine ten and
Speaker 1: physically drag it down to a one. And then you
Speaker 1: had different versions. One was the timeline that was straight
Speaker 1: across the whiteboard. The other one was like a like
Speaker 1: a pendulum chart thank you. Pendulum chart and you you know,
Speaker 1: and that's the one that helps me. That's what I
Speaker 1: use as the pendulum chart. So I'm able to bring
Speaker 1: it and dial it down. And I guess maybe the
Speaker 1: act of dialing it down also psychologically helps me to
Speaker 1: really own it in that sense.
Speaker 4: Did you use the same I think the number line
Speaker 4: worked better for me, but it was this is another thing.
Speaker 4: It was like, you know, are you willing to give
Speaker 4: some you know, let go some of this Nope, some
Speaker 4: of that responsibility.
Speaker 2: It did change, it did get better.
Speaker 4: I think my results might not have been as good
Speaker 4: as yours because my sometime much more stubborn. Yeah, but
Speaker 4: it definitely did make a significant difference for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah. In full disclosure, I was dealing with cancer, right,
Speaker 1: so I was very motivated to make this thing work.
Speaker 1: So because that motivation, whatever whatever it took, I was doing,
Speaker 1: I threw myself with abandon into this thing.
Speaker 3: And when the desire is there, I use that to
Speaker 3: quit smoking, Oh wow, to quit smoking. Yeah, And I
Speaker 3: did it one time and it worked, but my desire
Speaker 3: to quit smoking was at just the highest point. Plus
Speaker 3: what I did in somebody anybody can use this when
Speaker 3: you're listening, or if you're listening right now, posit and
Speaker 3: think of a whiteboard in front of you. And just
Speaker 3: like we use the muscle testing with a finger, or
Speaker 3: you can use the arm for muscle testing, the whiteboard
Speaker 3: is muscle testing as well, but.
Speaker 1: On a quantum level. Right, because it's not your physically,
Speaker 1: you're not doing anything. It's all in your mind.
Speaker 3: Yes, it is your mind, but it is your mind
Speaker 3: relaying a yes or no response to your body in
Speaker 3: all of muscle testing. So even with a pendulum, a
Speaker 3: pendulum and any divining tool is muscle testing.
Speaker 1: Right. You actually mentioned, and I forgot you had mentioned
Speaker 1: that some people get to the point where they don't
Speaker 1: actually have to do muscle testing. Right, you can actually
Speaker 1: divine it. You intuitively know what the answer is as
Speaker 1: you started asking questions as your energy heroes are there,
Speaker 1: I kept asking, but after a while it just it
Speaker 1: would instantly. I would instantly know. And you also did
Speaker 1: a yes or no, So which one was lit up
Speaker 1: for me when you ask the question? And it's one
Speaker 1: of these things that it is. It's so subtle and
Speaker 1: so fast that if you think about it, you're going
Speaker 1: to get the wrong answer. Right, It's got to be
Speaker 1: something that is just like an immediate answer, what is
Speaker 1: the first answer that comes to mind? And I was
Speaker 1: able to jump into it. Now people say I'm Claire cognitive.
Speaker 1: That might be something that helped, but I suddenly started
Speaker 1: being able to intuit the answer and it seemed to
Speaker 1: have worked well for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think using these tools again and again will
Speaker 3: strengthen that.
Speaker 1: Well. I've been using it almost daily since then, so
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's they're just they're easy to use. I like that.
Speaker 4: It's not like oh I got to do this, you know.
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, this mantra or this you know visualization
Speaker 4: and it helps a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so sure does. Now what kind of things can
Speaker 1: you use this for? Is there anything that you can't
Speaker 1: use it for?
Speaker 3: I think the stumbling block is when you we are
Speaker 3: vaper emotional about something. That's when it kind of gets muddled. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean people like for you to help, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: and a lot of empaths And this is why I'm
Speaker 3: very empathic. And I was told so many times growing
Speaker 3: up stop being so emotional. And I thought, when I
Speaker 3: was older, there has to be a reason our bodies
Speaker 3: are so smart, so there needs to be there has
Speaker 3: to be a real and for these emotions. So this
Speaker 3: is a way that we can use our emotions as feedback.
Speaker 3: But if we're a highly emotional about something, so yesterday
Speaker 3: I couldn't find my cat, and I had seen a
Speaker 3: car outside my neighbor's house yesterday afternoon and I thought
Speaker 3: I heard them say, oh, we'll just we'll just take them.
Speaker 3: We'll put them in the cart and we'll take them.
Speaker 3: And then a few hours later I couldn't find my cat.
Speaker 3: So my brain went to go, oh my god, it's
Speaker 3: something me steal my cat. I was so highly emotional
Speaker 3: there was no way I could muscle test. So I
Speaker 3: just waited, calmed down, intended for the best possible who
Speaker 3: come in. Then he came in a few hours later.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, acquiring minds need to know where.
Speaker 2: Is the cat? It is hard.
Speaker 3: I think that was the issue that I had.
Speaker 2: I was so emotional about everything.
Speaker 4: And you know it's like, you know, well, you're focused
Speaker 4: on you know, getting rid of the cancer, and that's
Speaker 4: something that you desperately want and it's only a good outcome.
Speaker 4: But my mindset was if yes, I will feel better
Speaker 4: if I don't bear the responsibility of all these people's emotions,
Speaker 4: good for me, but bad for them because.
Speaker 2: They're going to be flailing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So there was like also in my mind a negative
Speaker 4: outcome as well.
Speaker 2: So that's where my struggle.
Speaker 1: Is, right, and I think I kind of need to
Speaker 1: define it a little bit clearer. Yes, my motivation was
Speaker 1: to get rid of the cancer, but talking with Jillian
Speaker 1: help working with her helped me to understand that there's
Speaker 1: an energy behind that that could have contributed to my
Speaker 1: getting it absolutely, and that is the energy that we
Speaker 1: were trying to completely deflate. Right, So that's what I
Speaker 1: was thinking about when I was doing that timeline, and well,
Speaker 1: damn it, I'm gonna say it worked. So because then
Speaker 1: that that emotion that I was carrying around with me
Speaker 1: is decreased tremendously. I'm hoping it says that way, but
Speaker 1: if it does, nah, I know how to bring it
Speaker 1: back down.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Coming back to thank you for that, and I'm so glad.
Speaker 3: I'm so grateful to hear that you think that this
Speaker 3: could have had any impact, But it really, I believe
Speaker 3: does when we take control of our body, our mind,
Speaker 3: and our emotions. And like I said before, I was
Speaker 3: add an energetic resonance of twenty megaherts, which was shame.
Speaker 3: They've actually done testing and found that cancer grows at
Speaker 3: forty two megahertz and helone. So I know that I
Speaker 3: was living in shame for decades, and that's such a
Speaker 3: motivating factor for me to come online bring these tools
Speaker 3: to people. I'm so passionate about not cheating anything hidden.
Speaker 3: I want people to know these tools because they're so simple.
Speaker 3: They're so simple and easy.
Speaker 1: It's not something that's intuitive. God forbid, someone in the
Speaker 1: West actually says, oh, just think your cancer away.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: Everyone who's in this who knows anything about metaphysics knows
Speaker 1: that it is one possible to heal yourself. There are
Speaker 1: full on documentaries about healing yourself. Doctor Joe Despenza himself
Speaker 1: healed himself in with his mind from a terrible accident
Speaker 1: that he had and he talks about it all the time.
Speaker 1: So it is possible, but you have to be in
Speaker 1: the right mindset, you have to have the right tools
Speaker 1: to do it. You can't just wish it away. There's
Speaker 1: some work you have to do, and so far we've
Speaker 1: done carrying a lot of different healing modalities, a lot
Speaker 1: and who knows which one of them. Maybe a combination
Speaker 1: of them all is what helped get rid of it.
Speaker 1: But these tools, Jillian, that you shared with us are
Speaker 1: so simple and yet seemingly so powerful. Because the minute
Speaker 1: I walked out of this room after our session, I
Speaker 1: felt lighter than when I had walked into it. So,
Speaker 1: whether it is a placebo fact or not, I loved it.
Speaker 1: And I can't advocate enough for people to reach out
Speaker 1: to you to do this for themselves, because it's nice
Speaker 1: to hear about it on the show. And sure you
Speaker 1: could practice it yourself while you're listening to this or
Speaker 1: watching this, but please don't do it while you're driving
Speaker 1: a car. But there's no substitute to actually being in
Speaker 1: contact with Jillian and having her walk you through it.
Speaker 1: She's infinitely patient, and the way that she's able to
Speaker 1: find her way to the root of the issue is
Speaker 1: nothing short of miraculous.
Speaker 4: I mean, I had no idea I was going a
Speaker 4: completely different, completely different Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, we a lot of times our worst problems are
Speaker 1: so hidden from us because we're too close to it.
Speaker 1: So this really helped to reveal a lot of things
Speaker 1: that I didn't realize that I was still carrying around
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: And then another thing I liked about the session was
Speaker 4: she was telling me to take your life and put
Speaker 4: it into segments and just you know, if you're going
Speaker 4: to the mall, make that be a segment and then
Speaker 4: have an intention for that segment. So I tried it,
Speaker 4: and running late to pick up Sana from school, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 4: this is a segment that drive to school. It's normally
Speaker 4: a seven minute drive and I had six minutes to
Speaker 4: at there. I'm like, not going to get any mid lights.
Speaker 4: It's going to be a great jove. I can get
Speaker 4: there on time and just us hitting the last light
Speaker 4: because all the rest of them were being turned red,
Speaker 4: but it just turned green and I did not have
Speaker 4: to stop.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying you can do this for everything and
Speaker 4: you don't want to abuse it.
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
Speaker 4: I'm like, Oh, I can't do this every time, but yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know. The same is you're I'm there in
Speaker 4: six minutes instead of seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Segment tinking is something that Abraham talks about a lot.
Speaker 3: And when you are segment intending, look at what you
Speaker 3: want to create, intend for and have that intuchin. So
Speaker 3: next time and look for this and your areas that
Speaker 3: you're saying segment, attending or creation in general, look for
Speaker 3: deep positive So you don't want so if I'm attracting hurtner,
Speaker 3: a friend, someone to date, I don't want to say
Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't want a smoker. I
Speaker 3: say I want someone who is conscious. So I don't
Speaker 3: want red lights and use instead I want all green lights.
Speaker 4: I just was like, I'm going to get there on time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I had one bit less than normal, but I was
Speaker 4: going to get and I did.
Speaker 1: That's a great, great point that we didn't talk about.
Speaker 1: You were very much about keeping it on the positive
Speaker 1: side of things, because everyone knows manifesting, you're telling the
Speaker 1: universe what you want, not what you don't want. And
Speaker 1: when we're negative, we're showing a universe what we don't want.
Speaker 1: I don't want red lights, Oh well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the universe only ever says yes to you. Right,
Speaker 3: So you say I always get red lights, the universe
Speaker 3: goes yes, you'll yeah, always yeah.
Speaker 1: And if you say I don't want red lights and
Speaker 1: never says okay, let's keep them not wanting red lights
Speaker 1: because you keep getting red lights.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The actor I was thinking about the active component
Speaker 3: of each sentence. We say, so the active component is
Speaker 3: red light.
Speaker 1: So then what you're saying is I'm going to have
Speaker 1: all green lights and spin it in the positive and
Speaker 1: that really helps. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Same like if you said, don't think of alving.
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm not. I'm no, I refuse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: And I love that term segment tending.
Speaker 3: Segment intending.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I put it all together as one and
Speaker 1: call it segment tending.
Speaker 3: Words up as you go along.
Speaker 1: You're just great. It's the language of will.
Speaker 2: I'm still trying to figure that out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it takes a lifetime. All right, Well, is there
Speaker 1: anything that we haven't talked about? Jilli and I want
Speaker 1: to make sure that we touch on before before we
Speaker 1: say goodbye.
Speaker 3: I think this is a good place to just close out,
Speaker 3: asking people to really focus on the positive and please
Speaker 3: ask your body. Please use your body and your emotions
Speaker 3: as feedback. See the life that you see in front
Speaker 3: of you as feedback, not the end result. And be
Speaker 3: brave to chiggers what you actually desire.
Speaker 1: That's great, that's great.
Speaker 4: And if you are not understanding your body language, contact Tilian.
Speaker 3: She can translate.
Speaker 1: She's the body whisperer is, but the muscle I guess
Speaker 1: muscle whisper is probably a better term. Well, Jillian, I
Speaker 1: can't thank you enough, not only for coming on the
Speaker 1: show today and sharing of your wisdom, but also for
Speaker 1: sitting with us individually and helping us to go through
Speaker 1: these things and maybe helping me to get rid of
Speaker 1: my cancer. So let's keep that positive. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: And if someone wanted to reach out to you to connect,
Speaker 1: what's the very best way for them to do that?
Speaker 3: And the best way I'm always on Facebook, so you
Speaker 3: can helme reach out on my main Facebook page, or
Speaker 3: I have a website that's chileanligger dot com.
Speaker 1: Easypsy. We're going to add direct links to Gillian's website
Speaker 1: and social media on our show notes, so you can
Speaker 1: just go to Skepticmanaposition dot com find her episode right
Speaker 1: there in her episode show notes you'll see the links
Speaker 1: directly there. It's just a click away. Again, Jillian, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Thrilled to have you on the show,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure we're to stay in touch for sure, and.
Speaker 4: We're excited to see that book when it's done.
Speaker 1: Yes, and when you have the book, let us know
Speaker 1: so we can just put it on our show notes
Speaker 1: as well. We'll add a link to it.
Speaker 3: I will thank you so much. It's been great chat. Guys.
Speaker 5: Hi, my name is Bob and I am getting in
Speaker 5: touch to you guys about the Judah Collective podcast I
Speaker 5: just listened to today. There is a study that was
Speaker 5: done by the Monroe Institute and it was called the
Speaker 5: Explorer Files. It was from nineteen seventy four to nineteen ninety.
Speaker 5: I think it's a collective of about thirty different tests
Speaker 5: over in these years. And when the Judah Collective, when
Speaker 5: the lady went into the spiritual world.
Speaker 1: The way that she spoke, it almost gives me chills.
Speaker 5: The extreme resemblance how they speak from how she does
Speaker 5: versus this study in the Explorer Files. I would greatly
Speaker 5: greatly recommend listening to them, and I'll try to send
Speaker 5: you a link.
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