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<v Speaker 1>This is Later with Lee Matthews the Lee Matthews Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>more what You Hear Weekday Afternoon's on the Drive.

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<v Speaker 2>He's one of the greatest players in NFL history, and

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<v Speaker 2>he is coming to town tomorrow. The most successful quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>in the history of the Washington Redskins. But it all

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<v Speaker 2>came crashing down upon him with a season and career

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<v Speaker 2>ending injury. Joe thisman has turned it all around and

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to help you do the same at the

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma City town hall event tomorrow at the Church of

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<v Speaker 2>the Servant, Northwest Oklahoma City, and that's on North MacArthur.

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<v Speaker 2>We will give you some ticket information in just a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm glad to have Joe thisman on high. Hi.

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<v Speaker 3>Lee, thank you so much for having me. It's great

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<v Speaker 3>to be out here in Okasey. Just a beautiful day.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful day to do that. What are some of the

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<v Speaker 2>things you're going to be touching on in your lecture

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<v Speaker 2>at the at the town hall event.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I wrote a book called How to Be a

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<v Speaker 3>Champion every Day, available Amazon and other places, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>sort of a I talk about the relationship between the

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<v Speaker 3>world of sports, the world of business, and our own

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<v Speaker 3>lives and how they all parallel one another, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>talking about goals and how important attitude is and relationships

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<v Speaker 3>which you know in the world of businesses customer service,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, working together as a part of a team,

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<v Speaker 3>whether you're a family, unit of business and sports team,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't matter. And then you know, what are the

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<v Speaker 3>things that get us motivated in life? You know what

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<v Speaker 3>we're all different and how do we define success as individuals?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll tell some stories. I'll talk about my record

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<v Speaker 3>setting punning performance of one yard and lots of just

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<v Speaker 3>lots of stories about the NFL, I'm sure, and going

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<v Speaker 3>to open the floor to questions. I'm sure people have

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<v Speaker 3>some questions about what's going on in the NFL and

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<v Speaker 3>in college football. So looking forward to a really, really

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<v Speaker 3>fun eleven o'clock tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>NFL's most Valuable Player inducted into the College hot Football

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<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame twice, named the Pro Bowls Most Valuable Player,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Theismann in Oklahoma at the town Hall events. If

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<v Speaker 2>you want to look into getting tickets OKC Townhall dot

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<v Speaker 2>org four or five two O two four two six

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<v Speaker 2>to lunch is included. I might add when after your

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<v Speaker 2>after you realize that your football career was over, what

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<v Speaker 2>was what was the first thing and what was the

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<v Speaker 2>first place you turned?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, it's funny. I went back to football

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<v Speaker 3>Lee because it was it was all I'd known. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>enjoyed wonderful success there because of the people that I

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<v Speaker 3>was you know, I was coached by and the people

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<v Speaker 3>that had a chance to spend time with the players,

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<v Speaker 3>the coaches and everybody, and you know, I guess I

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<v Speaker 3>started looking for a new foundation. And so that's really

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<v Speaker 3>the basis of what I talked about when I do

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<v Speaker 3>my presentations is you know, you really need it. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like the great Pyramids of Egypt were not built on

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<v Speaker 3>their points. I think we all need a foundation to

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<v Speaker 3>start from. And sometimes when we get off track. So

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<v Speaker 3>if you go back and take a look at when

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<v Speaker 3>things were going well or things were going the way

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<v Speaker 3>you'd like it, what were the reasons why? You know?

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<v Speaker 3>That's why one of the questions I asked all the

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<v Speaker 3>time is how do you define success? You know, as

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<v Speaker 3>a parent, as a partner, as an athlete, as a student.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody has a different definition for it. And for me,

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<v Speaker 3>I went I went back, literally back to the world

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<v Speaker 3>of sports and said, what's foundationally there can I take

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<v Speaker 3>and build going forward? You know, I had with the

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<v Speaker 3>success that I was able to enjoy in the world

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<v Speaker 3>of football, I sort of became full of myself and

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<v Speaker 3>I lost some of the principles I think that were important,

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<v Speaker 3>and one of the most important things is people. And

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<v Speaker 3>I you know, I thought, you know, I was the

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<v Speaker 3>reason why we were successful and it was all about me.

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<v Speaker 3>And then all of a sudd sudden, on that faithful

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<v Speaker 3>night on November eighteenth, nineteen eighty five, my career ended.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, it mattered the type of person I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to be more than what I wasn't able to

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<v Speaker 3>do again. You know, football had a place in my life,

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<v Speaker 3>but then all of a sudden, it wasn't there anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>So now where do you go? And so really, for me,

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<v Speaker 3>I went back to foundationally, back to football.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing how a humbling experience can make you reevaluate that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've had it happen here in my career

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<v Speaker 2>of forty two years in this business, and I finally

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<v Speaker 2>came to the conclusion this business is not me. It's

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<v Speaker 2>what I do. I am am, not this business. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know that once I was able to put that

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<v Speaker 2>in perspective, I was able to kind of separate myself

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<v Speaker 2>from what I do and the egomaniacal aspects of what

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, it happens. And you know, I believe

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<v Speaker 3>firmly that we were put on this earth to serve people,

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<v Speaker 3>not to be served, and so often we get caught

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<v Speaker 3>up thinking as I as I did, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you go through it too. It's like, you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>we should be served by this or served by that,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's not the way it is. And you I

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<v Speaker 3>find so much more gratification now in my life as

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<v Speaker 3>I look back when when you're able to do something

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<v Speaker 3>for someone, you know, there's that instant gratification that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I accomplished this. But then if you're able to do someone,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're able to put a smile on somebody's face,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're able to make somebody feel good, that's a

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<v Speaker 3>much more warming feeling in my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>NFL's Man of the Year Joe Thaisman, leading a Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl team to a championship. He's also an Emmy Award

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<v Speaker 2>winning analyst for two decades on ESPN and certainly a

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<v Speaker 2>big star with the Washington Redskins, Oop and Joe Thaisman,

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<v Speaker 2>I say Redskins anymore?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that's what I was. There's the commanders

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<v Speaker 3>now And there was a time period when they were

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<v Speaker 3>the Washington football team. When we were the Washington football team,

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<v Speaker 3>it sounded like we've belonged in the premier league of soccer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we just didn't flow flow for me. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the command and this is the way I analogize the

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<v Speaker 3>commanders is you know, when you think of Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the seat of command of all our military. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's where that's where they play. And so why not

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<v Speaker 3>let it be the commanders? And who knows, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what holds with the future holds as far as anything

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<v Speaker 3>else goes, I have no idea. But right now, right now,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's excited about the commanders because you're winning. Well, it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't if you're calling almost anything you want. As long

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<v Speaker 3>as you're winning, people are excited about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will tell you that you will drive through

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma and find many a high school with a Native

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<v Speaker 2>American mascot, and they are proud to call themselves the Redskins,

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<v Speaker 2>or the Cherokees or the war Lords. Or the Tomahawks

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever it may be. They find no offense in

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<v Speaker 2>it whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it was I think I think some of

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<v Speaker 3>it had to do with the period of time in

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<v Speaker 3>society where things were just different, let's put it that way.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I remember when we won the World championship,

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<v Speaker 3>I received a chiefs headdress as a gift and it

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<v Speaker 3>was one of the proudest things I'd ever gotten, and

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<v Speaker 3>so to me, I was very proud to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to wear their uniform and represent the Washington Redskins on

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<v Speaker 3>the football field.

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<v Speaker 2>Go and see Joe thisman, the NFL quarterback of the

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<v Speaker 2>Washington Redskins. He'll be speaking at the town hall events.

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<v Speaker 2>It is at the Church of the Servants, lecture and lunch.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to Okctownhall dot org or four or five two

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<v Speaker 2>oh two four two six two. I believe the gathering

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<v Speaker 2>begins at eleven and then lunch and the and the

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<v Speaker 2>lecture and Joe th Eisman will be answering questions as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I will. I'm looking forward to seeing everybody, visiting

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<v Speaker 3>with everyone out here. And you know, with the things

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<v Speaker 3>that are happening in the collegiate world, they're certainly upside

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<v Speaker 3>down and a lot of young faces in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you know, we'll tell some stories, have some fun,

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<v Speaker 3>and hopefully be an enjoyable time for everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Thaisman, thanks for joining us and we look forward

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<v Speaker 2>to seeing you tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks, Lee appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening to Later with Lee Matthews, the Lee

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