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the Profo High school basketball team that just won States, right, baby,

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Speaker 4: All right, let's talk some ball.

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Speaker 3: I need someone who noseball to tell me what's going.

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Speaker 4: On with BYU basketball.

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Speaker 3: A man that is six foot nine, two hundred and

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thirty pounds of solid muscle at a Provo High school

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and he's the head coach for the Provo High school

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basketball team that just won Stateless. Welcome at former bucket

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getter himself, Chris Collinsworth, Number forty one on the court,

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number one in our hearts today, Chris, how are you

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good man? How you doing doing fantastic? Congrats on the

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state championship. How does it feel to win another state

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title on that floor?

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Speaker 4: Now? As a coach?

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Speaker 1: It's awesome. Man. My mind feel better as a coach

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than it did as a player.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 3: The vicarious accomplishments, right, I mean, obviously you're you're accomplising

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as a coach, but you're you're you're you're coaching these guys.

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Speaker 4: You're not playing the game. How is it? How is it.

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Speaker 3: Possible that it could be more satisfying, more exciting to

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coach a championship rather than to play for and win

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a championship.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, man, that's a good question. I honestly

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didn't even know if I would like coaching, So the

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fact that I do as much as I do.

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Speaker 1: The one is crazy. But no, it's all about the.

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Speaker 5: Guys, Like we have really really good players really good

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group of just humans that we get to be around

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every day, and there's something special about being able to

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put them in positions to succeed and watching it happen.

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And you know, I was able to experience state championships

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as a player, and so being able to instill them

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with the same belief and you know, put things into

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play for them and have it come into fruition is

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I don't know, it's really surreal.

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Speaker 1: That's I've just been telling people. It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: So what's the equivalent in this coaching championship achievement to

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the twenty seven points you had in the state title

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game right in two thousand and seven and you became

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the gate Rade Utah Boys Basketball Player of the Year

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with that performance. Did you do anything coaching wise that

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that parallels the twenty seven points that you put up

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in that state title.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's really different.

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Speaker 5: Like when you're a player, you just you you prepare,

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you go out, you play, you do your best, and

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the chips kind of you know, it happens. Coaching is

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similar in that way, but you're I always tell people, like,

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once the game starts, like your goal is just not

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to pull a Chris Weber and get two technicals to

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interfere with the game like you did.

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Speaker 1: You did all your prep work before.

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Speaker 5: You're just trying to keep guys confident, trying to keep guys,

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you know, put them in the right place and succeed.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of that happens.

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Speaker 5: Before the game, so when you get into the game,

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it's just you trust your guys to go out there

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and and play confident and play loose and have you

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have fun, like enjoy the game. And and then you know,

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we were talking about inputs, like you do everything in

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your power that everything you can control, and then the

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outcome is the outcome. As a player, like you feel

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that more. I feel like like it's like you're out there.

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You got to make the shots. So you got to

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make the you know, the defensive play, you got to

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get the redown. You actually have to sweat and be

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in shape. As a coach, I can know, drink him

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out and do right before the game, even during the game,

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and it doesn't affect the outcome. So I don't know,

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it's it's crazy. It's definitely different. It's really fun. It's

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fun to compete again because you're definitely competing like you're

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out there, You're you're competing your game, you're game planning,

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you're trying to put like I said, guys in the

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right spot. But I don't know, it's hard to explain.

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It's it's different, but it's it's really fun. It's addicting.

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Like my poor wife, she probably had no.

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Speaker 1: Idea that her husband was going to be a high

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school basketball coach. But here we are.

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Speaker 4: It's so fun. I mean, you're more than that. You're

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an entrepreneur. You do a lot of things.

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Speaker 3: Obviously you've been able to free up enough time to

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coach and and dev into something that you had.

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, I fear that you that you may

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not even like it.

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Speaker 3: Obviously you've fallen in love with the game through coaching again,

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which is which is pretty cool to fall back in

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love with an activity that that you know, that that

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had given you so much and also kind of probably

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been a little bit of trial and tribulation with with

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some injuries. If everyone you know, not everyone knows your

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your path, your trajectory to b Yu and and it

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was it was short. It was too short, right with

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how much talent you had coming into Brigham and so

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to fall back in love with the game.

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Speaker 4: Has that been a special thing for you?

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Speaker 5: It's you know, that is something my wife talks about

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a lot. It's been very full circle and it's it

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has given basketball a lot of meaning again where there

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was definitely, you know, times even years where you're kind

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of like, what was the point? Yeah, Like, you know,

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what was the point of putting in all that work,

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all the time, all that effort.

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Speaker 1: It's obviously there was a.

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Speaker 5: Ton of benefit, even even with the ending sooner than

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I would have liked it too. Like I tell people,

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I do tell you all the time when they want

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to feel like sorry for me and my guys, how

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did I get to play you know, high school basketball

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at a high level. The fact I even got to

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play for a D one team, even for a minute,

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is more than most people can say and like, and

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I do, I do, like, I am very grateful for that.

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what what was the point of like going through all that,

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having the talent, having the ability, and then having it

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end as quickly as it did, and now being able

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to coach and take those experiences and being able to

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help you know, my guys like it feels way more meaningful,

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and so it does feel full circle. And yeah, I

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feel very blessed, honestly to be able to have an

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experience where I get to love basketball again and I

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probably even love it more now than than I did,

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especially at the end of my college career where I

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was there's just hard, like here's surgery again. Have fun,

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and so yeah, super blessed to be able to rekindle

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that and to be back at it.

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Speaker 3: You take your own experience right to you. You employ

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that experience in teaching and mentorship. But I imagine there's

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a few principles, a few schemes, a few things drills

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that you took from Coach Craig Drury.

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Speaker 4: Give me a shout out and how impactful he was

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Speaker 1: Oh, I mean Coach Dury. When they asked me to

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coach three years ago.

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Speaker 5: He was someone I talked to immediately and he told

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me like, look, if you do it, I'll coach you.

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doing I've never before, so you know, with Coach Drury,

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and then I have a really good, really good assistance. Actually,

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every one of my assistants, two of them played at

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BYU and then the rest.

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Speaker 1: Of them they all played at PROVO and so they're

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very ingrained in the coach Duri culture.

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Speaker 5: And that's been a really, really big part of our program,

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is just instilling the belief.

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Speaker 1: In our guys that they can win.

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Speaker 5: Like probi I had won seventeen state titles most of

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the state before this year. The one we won this

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year was number eighteen. And we talked about that all

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the time with our guys, and because when we played

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for Coach Druiy, that was the expectation and there wasn't

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a day an open gym or a practice that went

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by that there wasn't like to talk about how we are,

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you know, practicing and playing to be the best, and you.

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Speaker 1: Have to believe that you can compete at that level

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if you're ever if you're ever going to do that.

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Speaker 5: And so from day one that was like, you know,

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told guys like, hey, like I'm here to we're here

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to win a state championship and if you don't believe that,

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let's let us help you believe that.

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Speaker 1: And so we brought in.

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Speaker 5: You know, not only did we bring in coach Stue

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Mark Durant, Tom Homo, Santiago's Ty Wesley, Mkelly Wesley, all

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these people who have who went to Provo, A lot

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of them went to BYU, but have who experienced a

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ton of success in basketball and and in life and

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help them come back and tell these guys like, hey,

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like we were great, you can be great too.

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Speaker 1: And but that culture for us was with coach Drury,

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and coach would tell you it.

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Speaker 5: Was with coach Jim Spencer before him, and he won.

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He wanted several titles at Provo before coach Durie. And

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so yeah, like the drills and everything, we run same defense.

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Speaker 1: The jury ran the Jim Spencer.

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Speaker 5: R And obviously it gets tweaked because the basketball has changed.

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But the biggest takeaway from those from those coaches has

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been really like the mindset and how to coach the

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mindset and the and the belief that you can be

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good and you if you put in the work, you

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deserve to be good. And that's one of our mantras

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this year is cash the check. Like you write yourself

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a check every time you put in the work and

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work hard, but you've got to cash it by going

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out and putting your best effort and hopefully getting out

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an outcome, which is winning the game or winning region

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and then winning state. And so it was really fun

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at the end of that last game to go say, hey,

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we actually you know, you guys wrote this check all summer,

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all spring, summer, fall season long.

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Speaker 1: Now you get to cash it. So yeah, I learned

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Speaker 5: From from coach Durie and all hit the players that

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played for him that were willing to come back and

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talk with us and help him steal that mindset and

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Speaker 3: Chris Collinsworth, former b YU bucket getter, a big man, uh,

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former gig Raide Player of the Year in the great

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state of you talking and talking to some ball with

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his celebrating his state championship and his accomplishment as a coach.

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It is keeping up with the cougar segment. Chris, you've

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been on the show before. Give us an update. I

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know you're coaching, Okay, you're you're doing great things.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Most importantly though, how's the fam?

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Speaker 3: How's the other job that's keeping you up late at

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night as you operate your businesses et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Family is great. Family is really good.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't be doing everything I'm doing with that an

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awesome life and awesome kids and works really good.

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Speaker 1: Been in a sports.

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Speaker 5: Licensing business with with Jimmer actually for about five years

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and it's been fun.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: It's we've had a good.

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Speaker 5: Year and n I l and that whole market.

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Speaker 1: We did it kind of incognito for several years.

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Speaker 5: And so it's been fun to have it become, you know,

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the main gig if you will.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, life's good. Can't complain love.

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Speaker 4: That, man, And uh, what do you think about this? Uh?

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This bub League basketball team? Chris? Have you been over

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watching any of the games? What's going on with them? Coops?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I watch, I watch. It's tricky, man. Injuries. Injuries

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obviously play a big part of it. It's that always

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makes things really hard.

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Speaker 5: I remember, even as the player getting hurt, like feeling

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terrible for the coaching staff and the team and being

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like they had.

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Speaker 1: This whole his whole roster was.

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Speaker 5: Assembled with me and mind game plans plays base line

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out of bounds, sideline out of bounds, defensive schemes like

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so when you lose a guy and two guys and

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three guys and four guys, like all the planning and

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prep that you know, Coach Young and the staff will put.

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Speaker 1: In like they got to change, didn't change on the fly,

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So that's that's not fun. I don't envy them at all.

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Speaker 5: From that perspective, and I think they're obviously handling it

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well and then losing is not fun. And to echo

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what you know Coach Young said after last game is

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he's just trying to get his guys to have confidence

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and believe again. And I think, I honestly think that's

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a huge part of this. Like I was just looking

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at the box score we had. We had several dudes

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who played over ten minutes last night.

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Speaker 1: They didn't even shoot the ball once. And I'm not

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saying they had shots, they turned down shots, but there's.

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Speaker 5: Clearly a belief issue amongst other things. And I agree

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with Coach Young, it's like this thing in the season

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right now, like the most important thing is getting some

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guys to go out and truly believe that they.

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Speaker 1: Can win and give it their all. And you can

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see that's missing.

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Speaker 5: Like you watch a game and the efforts low, which

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makes things like the fundamentals look like they're not. Their

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confidence is low, which again makes you know, very things

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that look very simple or should be very simple, they

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also look hard or look look like we don't know

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what we're doing. And so how do you get that

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back in you know, a short period of time before

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Texas Tech and into the Big twelve tournament. I don't know,

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and I'm grateful I'm not being tasked.

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Speaker 1: To figure that out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, belief is interesting, man, obviously, like preparation,

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uh is is a key oponent, key component too to

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having that confidence right. But when you when you're on

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kind of like a negative spiral, it's hard to kind

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of pull yourself out from that, and especially I think

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the dynamics of of playing alongside stars. You know, you

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want to fill your role right, Like talk to Kyle

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a lot about this. Like, you know, Kyle ear Lyon

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in his career, he's a rebounder defender and you know,

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didn't get many opportunities to get shots up and he's

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found his role right eventually, though, like you, you got

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to be able to step up and make shots when

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when when blitzes come and and ultimately double teams come

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and they got to kick it.

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Speaker 4: To you, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: And and I don't I don't know you know where

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you know where the confidence is.

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Speaker 4: I think Alexi's gained some confidence with more minutes. He's

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definitely shut. He's got a pure stroke.

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Speaker 3: Hadeem looked a little bit out of sorts in his

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first start, but he has been a bit of an

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energizer bunny in the past with rebounding and defense. Maybe

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that was the the lights were too bright. You know

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where do you turn right now? You know, aj and

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and Rob typically can get buckets, but they they've been

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really forced recently. They're not coming easy whatsoever. It is

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really forced, and it is it is like just arduous

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to watch these guys try to score some time with

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the physicality of the Big twelve, They're contested shots every

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single time.

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Speaker 4: Nothing's coming easy offensively.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everything looks sticky, everything looks forced.

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Speaker 5: Its hard, like you said, and you know, to echo

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like with Kyle what you're saying about Kyle, it's true,

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like he did a really good job, you know, his

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freshman year coming in and filling a role, and sophomore

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year's role expanded and then obviously junior and senior year.

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Speaker 1: And that's a lot of us credit to.

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Speaker 5: Like Coach Rose and coach Rice, coach Lacombe, coach nash

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If coach Wardenberg, shout out to all those guys. But

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we I feel like we knew who we were as

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a team. There was an identity in place with that.

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Coach Rose did a good job, Like we knew what

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we wanted to do, so it was easier to like

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know what your input into that system was. And like

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you look at these really good teams, you know the Gonzagas,

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Houston teams, even like Arizona teams that have.

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Speaker 1: Been good and have been good for a long time.

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Speaker 5: Like they can get guys and plug and played because

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the team's identity and the expectation for the team, it

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doesn't change game to game. It doesn't even change like

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year to you a Houston, you know exactly who Houston's

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going to be. And so when guys do get thrown

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out there, like they know what they're the expectation is

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for them, they know the role they're filling. And I

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feel like right now we're missing that with this team,

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Like I don't think we know who we are going

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to be game to game, even half to half, and

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so I think it's hard for a guy to come

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in on limited minutes and know what their expectation actually is. Like,

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if you're Houston on defense, you're blissing a ball screen.

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If you're the guy that's on the backside, you know

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how you got to rotate, you know what the efforts

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expected to do that, and you can go and fill

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that side of the ball really, really, like easily, because

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everyone on the team is expected to do and it

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is expected to do a certain way. And yeah, when

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you watch like it feels like we're missing some of that.

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Speaker 1: And so it is.

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Speaker 5: Harder for role players to come in and magnify their

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role because I think they're guessing, like, you know, okay,

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aj is going to shoot it, but what does that

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mean for me? And then defensively, it's like what is

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my role defensively?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 1: And again you lose Ritchie and.

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Speaker 5: I think that that problem is magnified for sure. But yeah,

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this kind of leaning back into the Kyle on Coach Rose, Like,

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Kyle did a really good.

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Speaker 1: Job of.

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Speaker 5: Stepping in every year, and his role obviously got bigger,

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went from being a true freshman starter to the best

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player on the team. But we always knew what was

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expected and we had that style of play. Like the

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truth is, we committed to by U for that style

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of play, and when we were when I was getting recruited,

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like all the coaches that were recruiting me, like I

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was looking at you know, did I want to go

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play for Tony Bennett at Virginia and play a pack

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line defense and to slow it down offense? Or did

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I want to play for Coach Rose and play like

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a faster, you know, a much faster offense, get into transitions,

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get more shots up type of scheme.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, that's.

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Speaker 5: My take kind of on our team right now is

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I don't feel like we know who we are and

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so it's harder for guys to step in and step up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you hope they can find the identity.

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Speaker 3: They can they can circle back and and find something.

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And in what are the silver linings right now? Right

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when you've lost so many games, you have the ceiling

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the potential of Iowa State. Do you just go back

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and you watch highlights just like to let's watch it all, like, look, guys,

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we're a good basketball team. Let's watch ourselves like you

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know what I mean, Like, how do you instill confidence

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once again and instill you know, that swagger when you're

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so down Frauden right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question.

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Speaker 5: I mean I was watching Wisconsin highlights earlier in the season,

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obviously a very different team, but it did give me

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confidence and who we can be, and so I think

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there is a lot of that I think you're watching,

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Like I think the film session today is not what

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it was probably two weeks ago, and you're not probably

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not hashing over Obviously you need to talk about where

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we can improve, because there's a lot we can improve on.

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But the perspective is like, you guys are D one players.

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They're getting paid like you're really really good. Let's help

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you figure that out.

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Speaker 1: And I even think the.

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Speaker 5: Expectation internally of like, hey, you know, we're a top

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five team in the country, Like, I think you have

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to coach to that differently and relieve yourself of a

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lot of that pressure.

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Speaker 1: And I think even coach young like he has an opportunity.

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Speaker 5: To have some freedom and creativity on both sides of

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the ball to try to figure out what's working.

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Speaker 1: And you can see that happening in these games.

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Speaker 5: But hopefully even that like helps bring some confidence where

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it's like, hey, we can be dangerous because nothing is

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really expected of us right now. So let's try some

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different things and just do it with maximum effort. And

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that would be the one thing that I would coach

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really hard, is like if you're gonna be on the floor,

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like you gotta freaking give it everything you have inside

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this framework and let's see what happens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, effort makes up for a lot of things last night, though,

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Like as a as a former player, as a basketball

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state champion coach, Man, you've been around the game for

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a long time. I know it giveth and it taketh

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away so many lessons, learn, so much experience, right are

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you Are you most frustrated with like like just poor

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lazy passing at the top of the key? Are you

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more frustrated when you're watching like if the ball getting

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sticky offensively and maybe bad or four shots? Or do

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you get more frustrated with like just wide open like

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uncontested shots, bad defense?

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Speaker 4: Like where where do you find you get most.

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Speaker 3: Frustrated as a player and like a coach watching basketball

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last night?

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Speaker 4: Specifically?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for me, it's it's usually I get frustrated around

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like effort, around the.

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Speaker 1: Basic like basketball.

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Speaker 5: You can make basketball really complicated, but at its core,

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like basketball is a simple sport and a big part

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of that is like bringing maximum effort inside your role.

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And so like the two things are frustrating. You're like

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ones like do these guys know their role like when

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they go out there? And I think they do. And

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then too it's like, then why aren't they giving it

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everything they have? You know with those limited those limited

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minutes and for some of them who are now getting

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much more expanded minutes, it's like you've got to bring

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it like you're you're in the Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that like to them mentally they aren't.

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Speaker 5: This is where the confidence things come in, Like they

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might be giving their full effort, but they're just not confidence.

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It doesn't look like it like it's hard. It's hard

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to look like Houston with their effort if you don't

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have the.

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Speaker 1: Confidence that Houston has. And so that's where I.

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Speaker 5: Think what Coach Young said yesterday it was just so true,

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like they've got to get confident.

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Speaker 1: If they can, they can figure out how to get confident.

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Speaker 5: In a couple of days, I think that what we

476
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perceive as effort will look like it's higher. But yeah,

477
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that would be the thing that that is The thing

478
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,440
that frustrates me is like, let's let's go out there,

479
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do your job and do it with maxim effort and

480
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let's see, let's see what happens.

481
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Speaker 1: But when guys are nonchalant like I was. I loved

482
00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:55,440
Mark Durrant's X.

483
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Speaker 5: Posts recently about just the defensive breakdowns, just the very

484
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basic I love how I didn't trying to blast anyone.

485
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,039
He wasn't trying to know call people out, but as

486
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fans like, as we watched that, like he gave some

487
00:23:07,279 --> 00:23:08,680
really good insight onto.

488
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Speaker 1: Just some very basic stuff.

489
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Speaker 5: You know, switching, we have Rob Wright going underscreens four

490
00:23:13,319 --> 00:23:16,039
feet off the three point line and we're wondering why guys.

491
00:23:15,799 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: Are getting wide open shots.

492
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Speaker 5: You know, we have simple cross simple cross screens there.

493
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I guess it's flex action that's just happening, and we

494
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,920
don't know if we're switching or not switching. And a

495
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lot of that it starts with communication, and communication is

496
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a form of effort.

497
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Speaker 1: And it's like if two dudes can't talk to each other,

498
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they are not giving effort.

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Speaker 5: We're not going to handle that screen right, And that's

500
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where it's like, are we switching? Those screens are we

501
00:23:37,559 --> 00:23:40,519
not switching those screens, like what is what's the expectation

502
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and the role for the guys out there?

503
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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's where for me a lot of

504
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the frustration comes. It's just like the very stuff that

505
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,480
should should. I know, it's not basic.

506
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Speaker 5: Like again, like I'm not trying to like blast anyone

507
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because when you're out there like it being this goes

508
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,599
back to the difference of being a coach and being

509
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a player.

510
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Speaker 1: Right, Like you're.

511
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Speaker 5: Being a coach, it's easy to like why do you

512
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,960
handle that cross screen right where it's a player, It's

513
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,599
like there's a thousand things going on, and so yeah,

514
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I would just like to like leave a game. So

515
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,480
like we gave everything, like our input into the game

516
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was at a maximum level, and then if the output

517
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is we lost.

518
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Speaker 1: I can deal with that.

519
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 5: But if our input into that game doesn't it feels wrong,

520
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,799
which it has, it's like, no wonder we lost. And

521
00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:24,759
that's that's where I get like a sour taste in

522
00:24:24,759 --> 00:24:25,119
my mouth.

523
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like Okay, let me ask you this because this

524
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,160
is a schematic thing. I think kind of a schematic

525
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,640
based question and like kind of a reality of a

526
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:39,960
situation like Bai's defense. It's not good, right, especially for

527
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,200
it's going against some of the best teams in the country, Like,

528
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,839
you know, these are really good, these are really talented teams.

529
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,880
So it's like it's exacerbated, right because it's just bad

530
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,160
defense then turns into like horrible defensees you're going against

531
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,079
some really good teams. Is it Is it more simplistic?

532
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,039
Is it better to like go forward and try to

533
00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:03,240
rep out these actions that you're getting in a like

534
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,279
man de man defense, right, and work on your communication

535
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,079
with like a little bit of time here leading up

536
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,319
to Big twelve tournament and the NCAA tournament, you're just

537
00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:14,359
trying to wrap it out and work on communication and

538
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,279
practice and maybe through walkthroughs and all those things. Or

539
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,200
is it better just to like simplify and be like, hey,

540
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,480
we're just running zone. We're gonna switch up between a

541
00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:25,400
one through one and a two three, conserve energy and

542
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,839
hope that we can just outshoot out, outscore teams on

543
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,240
the other side of the ball, which we're we're honestly

544
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,200
pretty good at. We've been really good, we've been elite

545
00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:35,319
at scoring. Give me your thoughts on that.

546
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 5: No, that's a fantastic question then a good coaching philosophy.

547
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,759
Speaker 1: Question as well. And my take on that is, I

548
00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:51,680
would this goes.

549
00:25:51,519 --> 00:25:55,799
Speaker 5: Into Houston, Like Houston a long time ago picked what

550
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,319
they were going to be really good at on the

551
00:25:57,319 --> 00:26:01,400
defensive side of the ball, and they don't adjust they do,

552
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,319
they're going to be better at They're going to be

553
00:26:04,319 --> 00:26:08,319
better at what they do than you are scouting, scouting

554
00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:09,960
and adjusting based on what they do.

555
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: Right. And I was watching one of.

556
00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 5: Their games earlier in the year and they were they

557
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,039
were up one against Auburn I believe it was, and

558
00:26:17,079 --> 00:26:22,039
they were still trapping ball screens, leaving leaving guys can

559
00:26:22,079 --> 00:26:24,160
test it up one And I was like, holy cow,

560
00:26:24,279 --> 00:26:28,799
Like that feels that feels like the wrong time to

561
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,559
do that. But guess what they got to stop and

562
00:26:31,599 --> 00:26:32,359
they won the game.

563
00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was a.

564
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 5: Test to me because that's like our philosophy, like we run,

565
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,759
we run one defense in the end, we have like

566
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:40,519
a little bit of adjustments out of it based on

567
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,400
like scenarios and situations, but like we want to be

568
00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:47,720
really really good at us And so that's something that

569
00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:51,279
I would love to see, boy you do is get

570
00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:54,119
an identity and get really good at it and how

571
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,200
do you do that in a couple of days.

572
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, So to answer your.

573
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,559
Speaker 5: Question directly, I would I would like to see them

574
00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:01,960
clean up up some of the fundamentals and lean into them,

575
00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:04,200
versus being like we're just gonna, you know, throw it

576
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,440
all away and sit back in a two three. But hey,

577
00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:08,119
I mean, if they are going to sit back into

578
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,119
two three, let's be good at it. Let's just let's

579
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,400
let's just clean that up or go Syracuse.

580
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,559
Speaker 1: And get really good at a one three one like,

581
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,079
and again, it's hard. It's really hard being a coach.

582
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 5: I I hate I hate talking about what other coaches

583
00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:24,079
are doing well or wrong because it feels like I

584
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,200
know how hard it is, and so like, hopefully none

585
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,200
of this is taken as.

586
00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:30,799
Speaker 1: Like criticism towards like the current staff, but.

587
00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 5: It's like, I don't, I don't know the answer. It's

588
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,400
it's hard, But I do think like if guys can

589
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,039
get confident and maybe we simplify some things and they

590
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:42,799
can go out and give maximum effort, those like we

591
00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:43,319
could have.

592
00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: Hopefully hopefully a different result.

593
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 5: But yeah, it all comes back to guys gotta be confident,

594
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,720
play hard, Like I know, that's the most like fifth

595
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,720
grade level thing you could say, but it's just true.

596
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you there wholeheartedly.

597
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 3: And like, look, there's only the guys in that locker room,

598
00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:04,559
and only the coaches know, you know all the details. Right,

599
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,519
So when Hadembu gets the start, there's a reason, there's

600
00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:09,720
rhyme and reason for that. But why didn't he get

601
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,160
a start until that time? Well we may have seen

602
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,759
the reason why because.

603
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Speaker 4: He just he's.

604
00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 3: More of an energizer guy coming off the bench. It

605
00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:21,160
just fits better. And he just in the starting role

606
00:28:21,319 --> 00:28:23,640
just he seemed a little bit lost out there. Why

607
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,279
didn't Alexi Costick maybe get more pt or leon in

608
00:28:27,319 --> 00:28:29,359
the season and build confidence so he could be a

609
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,039
shooter and a score and space the floor, like you know,

610
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,000
if that would have happened in Xlray letter, maybe he

611
00:28:36,079 --> 00:28:37,240
have more confidence now.

612
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Speaker 4: But you know, Richie, Richie was getting a lot of minutes.

613
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: Other guy, Cannard Davis was the guy that was supposed

614
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,440
to be three and D and bem what mag was

615
00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:49,000
last year and like and he wasn't necessarily he didn't,

616
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,160
he didn't. It didn't pan out. He was like almost anyway,

617
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,079
he was almost a forty percent shooter from three point

618
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line last. Anyway, Chris, I've learned something from you. I

619
00:28:57,799 --> 00:29:01,359
always appreciate talking ball with you. Glad you're doing well.

620
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Congratulations on the state championship and uh, I always appreciate

621
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our time to get the man. Thanks for hopping on today, Bro,

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624
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a suit guy for game day?

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Speaker 1: I'm not. Ah, you couldn't catch me dead coaching in

626
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a suit.

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Speaker 3: But Bro, I'm telling you, Okay, ok make a deal

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Speaker 1: Saying sounds good. I'll take it.

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Speaker 3: Let's go, buddy, I'll get you with don All. I

636
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appreciate you, man, Thanks so much, Chris. All right, guys,

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hundred and seventy five powder out of Kysville, Utah. The

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Speaker 4: What's up? Will?

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Speaker 6: Hey? How's it going? Appreciate you guys having me on.

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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, Big kick Bill Baby will give us an update.

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Speaker 4: Man, how that g are you. How are things going? Family?

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The crazy world we're living and how you.

683
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Speaker 6: Doing doing good? Yeah, it's crazy, former player, It's it's

684
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weird hearing that. I haven't gotten that too much yet.

685
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:09,440
But we've been good. We've been still in Provo. I've

686
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:12,759
I've been training as a football facility, so I've been

687
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here since the season ended and it's been good. It's

688
00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:19,880
it's funny. I graduated in December and then it just

689
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,480
turned into all football. So training at first it was

690
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getting ready for the Senior Bowl, and then we did that,

691
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and then everything shifted towards the Combine and getting ready

692
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,279
for the Combine, and then we just finished that and

693
00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:33,559
now we've got our sites on pro day, so everything

694
00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:37,519
moves super quick. But we're still just doing the same thing.

695
00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:39,640
It's just putting the ball up through the uprights, and

696
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,160
we got to do that in lots of different places.

697
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It has been pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: I love that, man.

699
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Speaker 3: A couple of things that I think about as you

700
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:50,720
as you pontificated there, uh, former player, right, like wow?

701
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,359
Speaker 4: Like form play that went by fast?

702
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 3: What went by faster the mission field or your time

703
00:32:56,759 --> 00:32:57,680
at b YU.

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Speaker 1: Pro.

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00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:02,759
Speaker 6: Probably the time of BYU.

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Speaker 3: I would say, became a little bit long and arduous,

707
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:07,720
did day at times?

708
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think, well, once I transferred to BYU College

709
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:18,160
football and flying by, Yeah yeah, the mission also went

710
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,960
flying by, but I don't know if it was quite

711
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:20,559
as fast.

712
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of crazy, like I think about that

713
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:25,839
because I had I had a three year career at

714
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,960
b YU as well as a JUCO transfer and red shirt,

715
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,200
and then played two and then it flew by.

716
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 4: And I'm like, you asked me the same question.

717
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, I think football flew by faster than the

718
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,599
mission because there was like times where it felt like

719
00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:39,039
really really long.

720
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 4: The days were so long, you know.

721
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,119
Speaker 3: But you weren't a beautiful place Vancouver Kennedy kid me,

722
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,559
that's that's like celestial kingdom, Baby, that's beauty.

723
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,519
Speaker 6: It was awesome, And the whole province is the mission.

724
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,440
So traveling around the province, it's like it's so different

725
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,519
from from zone to zone. So it's cool to travel

726
00:33:57,559 --> 00:33:59,240
around little bit. I'm still trying to get my wife

727
00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:01,240
back up there. At some point we'll have a break

728
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:02,240
and we'll go check it out.

729
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, uh, you've had a great Uh you had

730
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,079
a great career a b YU, Like I said, one

731
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:09,239
of the greatest to have ever done it in a

732
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,440
b YU uniform. And uh, like, let me take a

733
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,519
step back here, because you transferred in right, and you know,

734
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:18,119
k Pop was really excited to bring you in. I

735
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:21,880
remember chatting with him when when uh, when he came

736
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,760
back to b YU and he's like, yeah, like will

737
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,599
when he was at Boys when you were at Boys

738
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:29,280
of State. I mean he was pushing the guy that

739
00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:31,559
was the starter. I mean it was neck and neck,

740
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:34,039
it was competitive, and really liked him, and that's why

741
00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:37,760
we brought him in, right, And so you came to

742
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,320
Provo and then all of a sudden, you know, us

743
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,440
media members, we show up right and we're watching and

744
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,039
you had yes, you struggled a little bit, and Spring

745
00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:46,440
were like, oh dude, we have to go get it.

746
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 4: I was get through Spring, Oh my gosh, man, Like

747
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:52,199
I was. It was my fault too. I'm like, did

748
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,039
b y you need to go out out.

749
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,079
Speaker 3: To the transfer portal again and get another kicker, And

750
00:34:57,159 --> 00:34:59,519
like Kate Pop's like, he's gonna be fine.

751
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:02,119
Speaker 4: He got to out, He's gonna be fine. Don't worry

752
00:35:02,159 --> 00:35:02,480
about it.

753
00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:05,079
Speaker 3: Take us back to that that moment you transferring you're

754
00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:09,039
gonna be the guy you're competing, Like there's a competition brewing, right,

755
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,559
but you know you're struggle a little bit in the

756
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:13,920
springball and obviously came out of that and became one

757
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:14,480
of the greatest.

758
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 6: Yeah. So at the time, I was coming off of

759
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:23,280
an injury. So in Boise, I missed my last five

760
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,440
or six games up there with a groin injury and

761
00:35:26,519 --> 00:35:29,559
didn't kick from the time I left Boise to the

762
00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:34,519
time spring ball started. So there were even schools in

763
00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:37,760
the portal that wanted to like see me kick, like

764
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,400
having me send videos or something. And I'm saying I'm healthy,

765
00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:44,760
but like not quite fully ready to go yet. Yeah.

766
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,800
So I got the springball and I think it was

767
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,440
the first day we had that pressure kick. Yeah, and

768
00:35:51,679 --> 00:35:52,760
I think all of us missed.

769
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone missed it, right, What's going on? What's going on?

770
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 6: That was brutal, And I think like that spring is

771
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,159
probably the most I've been tested as a kicker, Like

772
00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:07,000
we were doing pressure kicks. I think that's the only

773
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:09,119
time in my career I've done pressure kicks in front

774
00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:11,760
of the media. Now that I think back on it,

775
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:12,920
is that a good thing?

776
00:36:13,159 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 3: Do you think it's a good thing for kickers to

777
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,840
go and kick in front of the media. Like, you know,

778
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,280
I have my opinion on it, but like.

779
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:20,159
Speaker 4: It.

780
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:24,519
Speaker 6: I think it is. I think pressure in a game

781
00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:28,360
is such a hard thing to replicate in practice. I

782
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,719
think any way you can get pressure in practice is

783
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,800
a good thing. And sometimes kickers hate it, but that's

784
00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:37,239
part of the business. Like if you can get the

785
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,480
team running on a pressure kick, or if you can

786
00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:42,239
get the media out there or whatever it is, if

787
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,000
it's something that stresses a kicker out a little bit,

788
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,159
then it's great to do in practice because then you

789
00:36:48,199 --> 00:36:49,960
get into the game and in the in the game,

790
00:36:50,119 --> 00:36:53,400
the media is watching, fans are watching, you're you're under

791
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,320
the spotlight, and it makes it that much easier when

792
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,880
you've been there before. Like I think that springball was

793
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,559
so beneficial for me because it was hard and we

794
00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:04,599
were competing and the media was talking and fans were talking,

795
00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:08,000
and my neighbors were talking and yeah, and it felt

796
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:10,360
like a little miniature version of what the season would

797
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,639
turn out to be. And I felt like I was

798
00:37:11,639 --> 00:37:13,119
that much more prepared because of it.

799
00:37:13,679 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 3: It's it's tough, man, It's it's good to have, Like

800
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,440
a refining fire and pressure and pressure makes diamonds, right,

801
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,039
and you had plenty of diamond moments in your career, which.

802
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, it's hard being a kicker.

803
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,159
Speaker 3: Like, look, I I was I was a holder, you know,

804
00:37:29,199 --> 00:37:31,679
I was a holder, you know, much of my career.

805
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,360
So I'm I'm trying to just amp up my kicker

806
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,840
all the time saying like, you know, like these self

807
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,800
affirmation type of.

808
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,039
Speaker 4: Things, like you're a bad egg.

809
00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 3: You're freaking awesome, bro, Like you're the best in the

810
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,039
freaking world. I'm gonna lay down this like this hole,

811
00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:46,079
it's gonna be perfect. It's gonna be a perfect snap.

812
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:48,320
You're gonna freaking boot it through the up. It's hard, man.

813
00:37:48,559 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 4: Uh.

814
00:37:49,159 --> 00:37:51,199
Speaker 3: My high school kicker, I mean he had a huge

815
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,920
leg like you, and you know, sometimes with a big leg,

816
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:56,639
you know, and you get out to the fifties and

817
00:37:56,679 --> 00:37:59,079
stuff like that, You're like, wait, do I have enough

818
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:01,039
leg for this one? And so I'm like, bro, you're

819
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:03,079
having a freaking leg for this one, you know what

820
00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:04,920
I mean, you have enough leg. You don't have to

821
00:38:05,039 --> 00:38:08,199
change the mechanics, bro, just swep through it, you know,

822
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,639
because and you know, you know, having a big leg, like, okay, well,

823
00:38:11,679 --> 00:38:13,559
is there some wind you're like trying to do I

824
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:15,239
have to put a little bit more into this and

825
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,239
then you pull it, you push it, what have you?

826
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,880
Typically more of a pull right when you're trying to

827
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,199
get a little bit more leg into it.

828
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,599
Speaker 4: But it's a dynamic, man, It's tough.

829
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: People don't realize the mental component of being a great kicker.

830
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: I don't think, yeah, for sure.

831
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 6: And that's something that comeing to BYU. I put such

832
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,719
an emphasis on, like they made it that Deep Blue

833
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,199
video about it where I got the BYU and it

834
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,199
was like, how do I turn this into a strength?

835
00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:44,199
If I'm gonna be a kicker at a high level,

836
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,840
this needs to be a strength for me. And there's

837
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,159
ways kickers can can practice that and work that, like

838
00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:53,159
like you work out in a gym, But it takes

839
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:55,400
a lot of time building up and something that we

840
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:56,880
put a lot into for sure.

841
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,519
Speaker 4: A BYU, Yeah, I had an idea once.

842
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, if I could, I don't think this is legal,

843
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,320
but if I could, I would literally have like a

844
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,239
warmed up, like atmospheric controlled tent for my specialists to

845
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,199
hang out in during the games. And they have no

846
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,360
idea what's going on in the game. They have no idea.

847
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:19,119
They can play video games, they can kick, stretch, maybe

848
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:22,239
get a massage, eat some snacks, whatever it is that

849
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:22,920
they want to do it.

850
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:25,039
Speaker 4: They have no idea what's going on.

851
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: It's maybe like soundproof and then it's like all right, hey,

852
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,000
you're up, like okay, and you you can't look at

853
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:31,000
the scoreboard.

854
00:39:31,079 --> 00:39:35,159
Speaker 4: You don't know what's going on. You just trot out. No, man,

855
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,559
just trot out. Maybe just trot out there and just

856
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,239
do your thing. Bro, It's perfect. It's just like practice.

857
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,679
Get out there and kick the ball anyway.

858
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,039
Speaker 3: I know that's not feasible, but I've thought about it.

859
00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:49,119
Speaker 4: I know, I know you do.

860
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,599
Speaker 6: I'm as big of a BYU fan as there is.

861
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,840
I want to see the boys ball and if there's

862
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,360
pressure on that, then just teach me how to handle

863
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,400
it and we'll be in a good spot. Gonna put

864
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,159
your kicker in a tent, then your kicker probably needs

865
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:04,039
some extra practice.

866
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,639
Speaker 4: That's true, no doubt about it.

867
00:40:04,679 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 3: We like seeing the We like seeing the camera pan

868
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,440
to you and that beautiful mustache.

869
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 4: Of yours is the stash still going strong? You know

870
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,239
what I mean? Or have you gone beard? Have you

871
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,719
gone beard like Chase Roberts.

872
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,039
Speaker 6: I've gone beard. It doesn't look quite like Chases And

873
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:21,159
I don't know if it's gonna last much longer. I

874
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:23,159
think I think the next time I'm in the light

875
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,920
of day, it'll probably be a mustache again.

876
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:30,599
Speaker 3: Really, I mean, clean up the neck a little bit,

877
00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:32,519
you get a groom. We need, we need to see

878
00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:36,159
the beard. It happens to every BYU athlete. They leave

879
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,559
BYU and they grow out the beard.

880
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 6: It's like when you get back from a mission and

881
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,000
you're not quite sure if you can grow a beard,

882
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,360
so you got to experiment a little bit. I think

883
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,679
that's what we go through after we finish at b YU.

884
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,679
But I think I've had the I think I've seen

885
00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:54,400
what I can grow, and I'm not quite satisfied with it.

886
00:40:54,519 --> 00:40:56,840
So I think it might be back to the mustache.

887
00:40:57,079 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, at this point, Yeah, Chase has a strong fellicular strength.

888
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 4: He was He definitely looked good with the beard.

889
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,119
Speaker 3: There we got will fairrin former BYU great, one of

890
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:10,800
the greatest who have kicked the football. Here at Here

891
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,280
on Utah's ESPN Radio network, one of three nine ninety

892
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,320
eight point three ESPN the fan.

893
00:41:14,559 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 4: Look, it's it's rare to have players.

894
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 3: Get the the the Senior Bowl invite, uh and the

895
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,960
and the Combine invite. How special was that for you

896
00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:30,719
and how validating was that for you to get those

897
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:32,000
two invites?

898
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was cool. It's like you you grew up

899
00:41:36,559 --> 00:41:38,800
your whole life watching the Senior Bowl and watching the

900
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,400
Combine and all of that, and it's cool and there's

901
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,719
a lot of like like just just the bright lights

902
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,079
to it. It's the stuff that you you grew up watching.

903
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,840
But I think for me now, when you finally get

904
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,239
to it, it's just another opportunity to go and kick

905
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,960
in front of people. And at this stage where you're

906
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,639
in between college and the NFL, that's all that you

907
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:02,360
really want is you want you want eyes on you,

908
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,639
and you want to be able to go and show

909
00:42:03,639 --> 00:42:06,039
what you've been working on. So getting to go to

910
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:08,639
both of those was huge and for me, it was

911
00:42:08,639 --> 00:42:10,559
a huge opportunity just to be able to go and

912
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:13,840
show show what I can do and get some decision

913
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,079
makers watching me while I do it. So yeah, it

914
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:18,679
was fun. It was fun to get down to Mobile

915
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,639
and experience that whole thing. And then Indy was a

916
00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:22,440
blast as well.

917
00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:26,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the Senior Bowl like for for the

918
00:42:26,599 --> 00:42:28,079
kickers and for you specifically?

919
00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was cool. It was so there was one

920
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,800
kicker on each team, and the week leading up to

921
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,199
the game was really just like a game week. It

922
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,440
was even the same schedule of practices that we do

923
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:44,119
at BYU. We had coaching staff that was put together

924
00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:50,039
of coaches from NFL teams, so they're running us through

925
00:42:50,039 --> 00:42:53,519
whatever scheme they do with their team, and we got

926
00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:56,320
to go and do a couple of practices and you

927
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,199
walk i mean the combine in the Senior Bowl at

928
00:42:58,199 --> 00:42:59,800
the same where you walk around the field and there's

929
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:03,840
NFL coaches and NFL gms and everyone, which is so cool.

930
00:43:04,039 --> 00:43:06,360
And then we get to the game and it was

931
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,639
it was like twenty something degrees. It was thirty mile

932
00:43:11,679 --> 00:43:14,280
an hour wind. It was when all those storms were

933
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,239
going through the South, and so it was a great

934
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,320
day to be putting footballs up in the air. But

935
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,039
we me and the other kicker both got a one

936
00:43:26,039 --> 00:43:28,840
field goal attempt in the game and we both made it,

937
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,800
so it was a good showing for both of us.

938
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,960
And then right after that we're on a plane back

939
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,480
home and onto the next thing. So it felt like

940
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:40,760
an extension of the season where you go through the games,

941
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,920
and this one was pretty quick after the season, so

942
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,320
it just kind of felt like another another opportunity to

943
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,079
have a game.

944
00:43:47,159 --> 00:43:50,039
Speaker 3: Really, what was the coolest conversation that you had with

945
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:53,360
the coach at GM scout while you're out there at

946
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,800
the Senior Bowl, Like that you were like, wow, well, wow,

947
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:56,639
I'm talking to this guy.

948
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:04,199
Speaker 6: I think just everyone, Like our our interview portion of

949
00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:06,800
the Senior Bowl for specialists, it was a lot of

950
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,440
the stuff's a little bit different for specialists in other positions.

951
00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:14,480
And on our interview for that was over a zoom

952
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,599
so there were twenty five coaches on a zoom call.

953
00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:21,800
So we didn't really get to have the whole like

954
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,079
one on one table to table experience that other players have.

955
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,760
But after one of the field goal sessions, I walked

956
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,280
off the field and Jim Harbaugh was standing there and

957
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,159
talked to us for a minute, and so it's cool.

958
00:44:35,159 --> 00:44:37,440
It's cool to just run into to all of these guys.

959
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,519
But you've you've been watching for so long.

960
00:44:41,159 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 3: What was the weirdest question that you've been asked in

961
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,480
this process? Like, like if you were vegetable, Like, what vegetable?

962
00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:47,119
Speaker 4: What was it?

963
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 6: Like?

964
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 4: That's some weird stuff that they asked mine.

965
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,159
Speaker 6: Mine hasn't been as weird as I thought it was

966
00:44:53,199 --> 00:44:56,599
going to be. Like going into it, I think I

967
00:44:56,599 --> 00:44:58,320
had this expectation that it was going to be all

968
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,800
this weird stuff. It might have all been pretty straightforward,

969
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,400
but talking to some of the other guys, I think

970
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,760
the weirdest question that I've heard is just what's your

971
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:06,559
favorite quote?

972
00:45:07,679 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: M Did you get that?

973
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 4: Did you get that?

974
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,639
Speaker 6: Okay, I think i'd have to be dipping into the

975
00:45:15,639 --> 00:45:17,440
scriptures or something I was gonna say.

976
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,119
Speaker 4: I think I bet you're gonna go scripture on that one.

977
00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess this the quote that the punter came

978
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,000
up with. I don't remember what it was, but it

979
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:32,360
was not quite that. I mean, I guess that's a

980
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,840
way to get some personality out of someone. For sure.

981
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,079
You can learn a lot from that.

982
00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 3: Crazy man will found inform a b y U great

983
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,159
getting prepped for the NFL Draft here on your Utah

984
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,880
ESPN radio network. So the initial invite list that that

985
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,920
was published on NFL dot com did not include you, Right,

986
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,440
I've seen it where like you know, there's like this

987
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:58,239
initial projected list. Give me the process of getting that

988
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,239
invite to the NFL comm Like the initial list was

989
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,559
like Tommy Doman, Junior, Ryan Eckley, tray Smack, a couple

990
00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:06,320
of these guys or one of these guys that you

991
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,480
were out there with the Senior Bowl, True Stevens, Jack Stonehouse,

992
00:46:09,519 --> 00:46:12,639
Brett Thorson, and the Dominique Zavada. What was the process

993
00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:13,639
like getting the invite.

994
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, so they've been I think it was two years

995
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,280
ago they started doing the Specialist Showcase and it sounds

996
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,199
like they've been trying to push more players to the

997
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,119
Specialist Showcase. Every year they invite less specialists to the

998
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:32,679
Combine Combine and push them to the Showcase. And I

999
00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:34,960
wouldn't be surprised if at some point they're the same thing.

1000
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,960
But the only difference between that group and the rest

1001
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,280
of us that got invited after was they got they

1002
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,639
had one extra day there where they did all the

1003
00:46:43,679 --> 00:46:50,039
medicals gotch But in terms of doing interviews and doing

1004
00:46:50,119 --> 00:46:52,960
the workout and measurements and all of that, we were

1005
00:46:53,039 --> 00:46:56,639
together doing all that stuff. So it was I was

1006
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,039
a little bit confused at first when everything came out

1007
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:02,760
and just how the format of everything worked out. But

1008
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,440
that's how it ended up being.

1009
00:47:04,639 --> 00:47:06,679
Speaker 3: What did they test you guys on there at the

1010
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,280
at the combine? I mean, I know there's the interview portion.

1011
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,440
Is that is it more heavily weighted towards the interview

1012
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,559
potion portion getting to know you than it is like

1013
00:47:13,639 --> 00:47:16,440
performative because they have film they maybe saw it the.

1014
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 5: No.

1015
00:47:18,559 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 6: I think I think the workout was the biggest part.

1016
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:28,679
The workout. They it was probably five hours of kicking wow,

1017
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,519
where we went from field goal to kick off, and

1018
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,559
they split us up into two teams and kind of

1019
00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:38,400
made a competition out of it. And then they had

1020
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,079
track Man was there. It's the company that started with

1021
00:47:42,119 --> 00:47:45,039
golf stimulators and now they are into football as well.

1022
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:48,360
So they had track Man giving us a bunch of

1023
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,440
data about the balls that we were heading. So it

1024
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,840
gives data like the height of the line of scrimmage,

1025
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:55,760
how fast the ball spinning, how far the kick would

1026
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,920
be good from. So I think a lot of it

1027
00:47:59,039 --> 00:48:02,079
was was that. And then now we get into the

1028
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:04,719
process where coaches come out for private workouts and they

1029
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,719
come out for the pro day and actually get their

1030
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,079
hands on a little bit more. And I think that

1031
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:10,840
probably carries the most weight of all of it.

1032
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we got some good kickers, who had some

1033
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,960
good kickers in the league. Ryan Rica punting the ball

1034
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:22,440
pretty well, and I expect that. I mean, how you

1035
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,119
feeling like you feel like, you know, the feedback they've

1036
00:48:25,159 --> 00:48:28,920
received that you're going to get drafted have be a

1037
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,519
high priority undrafted free agent. You know some of the

1038
00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:35,960
the issues with being a specialist, right I've had buddies

1039
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,239
that have played in the league that are long snappers, punters,

1040
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,119
et cetera. You know, the problem is you need a

1041
00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:46,480
guy like to retire sometimes to get a spot. So

1042
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:48,760
give me a little eval of where you know, the

1043
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,480
prognostication is at right now.

1044
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's hard to say exactly. Free agency opens next

1045
00:48:55,559 --> 00:48:57,960
week and there will be lots of moving around and

1046
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,679
and you know, with with kicking, it's the timing needs

1047
00:49:00,679 --> 00:49:02,800
to work out. You need to fall into to the

1048
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,760
right place at the right time. So a lot of

1049
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,480
that is due to change over the next couple of weeks.

1050
00:49:09,519 --> 00:49:11,159
I think I sit in a good spot though. I

1051
00:49:11,159 --> 00:49:13,679
think kind of what I was saying earlier about getting

1052
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,039
in front of guys is the big piece, and if

1053
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:18,480
you can get to the Senior Bowl, and if you

1054
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,679
can get to the combine and just be in front

1055
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:25,159
of people and show off your ball flight and your ability,

1056
00:49:25,639 --> 00:49:29,239
then that's really all that you can ask for. And

1057
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,559
I've been able to do that at both those events,

1058
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:35,559
so I think it looks good and hopefully that can

1059
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:37,800
continue and I can get into a camp, whether that

1060
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,960
be getting drafted or getting signed to the free agent

1061
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,840
and go compete. And that's really all that you can

1062
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:42,880
ask for at the end of the day.

1063
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,079
Speaker 4: Love that man excited for you.

1064
00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:49,119
Speaker 3: Let's reminisce for a moment, shall we your favorite moments

1065
00:49:49,559 --> 00:49:52,199
as a bee way as fast as it flew by,

1066
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:56,119
right as quickly as it did. Yeah, some my awesome, iconic,

1067
00:49:56,519 --> 00:50:01,760
indelible moments that you created for Cougar, for yourself and

1068
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,320
for your your family as you were repping the fair

1069
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,880
name on the back of your jersey, what were some

1070
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,880
of your favorite moments?

1071
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 6: Well, it's gotta be Utah twenty twenty four. Crazy, that

1072
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,280
would be the high life.

1073
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,679
Speaker 7: There's a will, there is a way when you're when

1074
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,760
you're a kid growing up in Utah County, that's that's

1075
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,119
what you dream of, So that that takes the cake

1076
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:28,719
for sure.

1077
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 6: Lots of other cool ones pop tar Bull was awesome,

1078
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,280
Alim Mobile was awesome. Being Utah at home was awesome too.

1079
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,360
It's awesome no matter where you do it.

1080
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: It's fun.

1081
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think I think those are the biggest.

1082
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 3: What are you gonna miss about b y U football

1083
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,440
now that you've you're leaving it right, Not to say

1084
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,880
you can't come back hang out, you know, mentor train

1085
00:50:54,039 --> 00:50:57,599
there still be connected obviously as alumn that we all

1086
00:50:57,599 --> 00:51:00,440
try to be that, but you know what, are youn

1087
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,079
advised about it?

1088
00:51:02,599 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 6: Yeah? I think I think just being with the guys

1089
00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:08,519
and being part of of the culture at Byu, Like

1090
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,719
it really is such a unique place and and the

1091
00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:17,559
brotherhood is uncommon at Uyu, Like every I think every

1092
00:51:17,559 --> 00:51:20,679
school says that it's a brotherhood and and and all that,

1093
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,360
but b Yu it it's really really the case. Like

1094
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,920
I mean, even recently, I was out kicking in the

1095
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,960
indoor with the trainer that I have, and my wife

1096
00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:34,159
was there, and then as we're taking guys are coming

1097
00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:36,079
in to work out, and then before you know it,

1098
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:39,280
Bears sitting there and a couple other guys coming in

1099
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,159
to work out with Bear all sitting there and everyone's

1100
00:51:41,199 --> 00:51:43,840
just just talking, and that's something you don't really get

1101
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,280
everywhere else. And I think that's part of the culture

1102
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,800
that Kilani creates, is just that unity with everyone where

1103
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,760
you're quarterback, a specialists and no lineman, safety.

1104
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:54,079
Speaker 1: Whatever it is.

1105
00:51:54,199 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 6: The guys are really close with each other, and I

1106
00:51:57,039 --> 00:52:00,000
think that's hard to replicate anywhere else.

1107
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: Will.

1108
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 8: I have to ask you this because I told our

1109
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,159
social media guy I won't reveal his identity, but he

1110
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,519
told me during his interview, please ask Will to confirm

1111
00:52:10,599 --> 00:52:13,320
if I had to catch his kicks on p Day

1112
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:18,519
when we were companions. It's a certain guy from Georgia, Pennsylvania,

1113
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:19,360
you might recall.

1114
00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 6: Hm.

1115
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 8: I don't know if that, but he wanted me to

1116
00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:23,280
get that confirmed on air.

1117
00:52:23,639 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 6: He caught kicks for me, for sure. I also caught

1118
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,360
lots of three pointers for him.

1119
00:52:31,639 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1120
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 6: I don't know who did more, catching me shagging basketball

1121
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,519
or him shagging football. But it's competitive for sure.

1122
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, Brett's a competitive guy.

1123
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 4: That's good to know.

1124
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,599
Speaker 8: Brett Brett At three points right, he says he's Brett's

1125
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:45,400
sticking the lower extremity. He says he'd be on the

1126
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,039
low block that's good to know he shoots threes.

1127
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,599
Speaker 6: Well, I didn't say where I was shagging the ball from.

1128
00:52:51,639 --> 00:52:56,480
I just thought I'm standing up on the stage shagging

1129
00:52:56,519 --> 00:52:57,320
balls for Brett.

1130
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 3: Will Ferrett, Ladies and gentlemen, Will, who should we look

1131
00:53:03,039 --> 00:53:06,360
out for on this next year's b YU football team.

1132
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,400
Who's looking to maybe step up have a bigger role offensively,

1133
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:13,559
defensively or special teams? Anyone you want to highlight for

1134
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:18,039
us as springball is here and we're watching close, ladies

1135
00:53:18,039 --> 00:53:20,960
to who can step up and be a playmaker for Brigham.

1136
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,079
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Matsia has done is one to watch.

1137
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,280
I mean, he he's been at BYU as long as

1138
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,079
I have, and he's done a lot of preparing to

1139
00:53:32,119 --> 00:53:36,239
finally get a shot, and assuming he wins the job

1140
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:41,000
this offseason, they have a competition set up for him.

1141
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,320
But he's someone that I've gotten to know really well

1142
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,360
and done a lot of preparing with, and I'm convinced

1143
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,760
that he can can do some pretty amazing things when

1144
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:49,480
he gets a chance.

1145
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:51,039
Speaker 4: Love that man.

1146
00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 3: He's a He's a red shirt senior, right red shirts

1147
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,599
senior at a Heaver City. He was a big leg

1148
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,719
kicks well in high school had some good offers and

1149
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:00,719
show b YU.

1150
00:54:01,199 --> 00:54:03,039
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, he had to compete against.

1151
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,079
Speaker 3: One of the greatest in Will farrin right and hasn't

1152
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:09,880
been able to u showcase his abilities just yet. So

1153
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,760
we'll be looking forward to the six foot two hundred

1154
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,480
pounds out of Heber City, Utah.

1155
00:54:14,519 --> 00:54:16,599
Speaker 4: Anybody else you want to highlight? I know you. You

1156
00:54:16,639 --> 00:54:17,920
say you're a big fan of football.

1157
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 3: You said it, I'm a big b YU football fan,

1158
00:54:20,199 --> 00:54:22,119
but you only want to talk special teams.

1159
00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 4: You watch defense and offense too.

1160
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,559
Speaker 6: Hey, all the boys are ready to go. I mean

1161
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,119
being in the building. It's cool seeing all the guys work,

1162
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,719
seeing bear outs, bear out throwing, and Glasger looks ready

1163
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:40,239
to go. Schmeav looks really good. I think. I think

1164
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,119
those guys are gonna be popping off this season.

1165
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 4: And LJ too.

1166
00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:47,039
Speaker 6: LJ getting LJ back for another.

1167
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 4: Year is huge, massive.

1168
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,599
Speaker 6: Oh, I'm excited to see him.

1169
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,559
Speaker 3: Do you wish as a kicker that like the kickers

1170
00:54:53,559 --> 00:54:55,920
would do like the forty yard dash and like the

1171
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,840
vertical so you could really showcase how well rounded of

1172
00:54:58,840 --> 00:54:59,840
an athlete you're not just a.

1173
00:55:02,159 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 6: I might have to to try running a forty yard

1174
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,239
dash before I can give you an answer to that one.

1175
00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:11,320
All right, We'll have to see where my numbers lie

1176
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:12,320
and then I'll get back to you.

1177
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:14,599
Speaker 3: I see the fast Twitch, I see the quick Twitch month.

1178
00:55:14,639 --> 00:55:15,840
So you got it and you just got to train

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for it. Will Farron, Ladies and gentlemen, we appreciate you man,

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Thanks so much for hopping on. Let us know if

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you need anything from us, and I can't wait to

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see what you can do in the National Football Leage.

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Speaker 4: Good luck, Will. We'll catch up again soon.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate you, guys. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: There go. That's Will Farren, Big kick Bill Baby.

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Speaker 3: Love me some, Will Farre and shout out to Will

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for joining us today.

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Speaker 4: Great segment.

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Speaker 4: We'll go to break. Coming up next, I caught up

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with Reggie