Speaker 1: Number eight eight eight nine three four seven eight seven four.
Speaker 1: It is also and I've done this every day this week,
Speaker 1: so I will do it again just so that people
Speaker 1: can ignore what I'm telling them and freak out next week.
Speaker 1: Ross and I are not here next week, full stop.
Speaker 1: So you know, sorry, but yeah, we're not going to
Speaker 1: be here next week, which you know we did last
Speaker 1: year and I think the year before in all the years,
Speaker 1: but that we'll be back the week after, we think.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Ross is going to the moon with
Speaker 1: his family. He's not going to be available. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do a little little traveling, little traveling myself.
Speaker 2: I actually use the line in the meeting yesterday. There
Speaker 2: was so we had like a meeting here and one
Speaker 2: of the.
Speaker 1: Seas, yeah I had. We had to get We have
Speaker 1: a new big uber boss who came in to greet
Speaker 1: us and we did a little get to know you
Speaker 1: and I.
Speaker 2: Was sitting next to a sales rep and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: what do you need those scripts? And I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: close a business Thursday. And he's like, so you're Thanksgiving
Speaker 2: how I'm like, yeah, it's like, where.
Speaker 1: Are you going?
Speaker 2: I said the moon?
Speaker 1: The moon?
Speaker 2: And he looks at me like what he says, what,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be at the moon, so you better get
Speaker 2: those scripts to me like asap because I.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no uh, I don't think we have a
Speaker 1: studio on the moon. Do we know microphones in the moon? Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's a is that a scientific thing?
Speaker 3: It is?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way to check that. How can this
Speaker 1: sound carry right? Yeah? Yeah, that's a good point, except
Speaker 1: you know the moon does have gravity, so there's that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you have to be fair. Ross almost got us
Speaker 1: fired when he walked in the room, So I just
Speaker 1: want to point that out. We walk in, nobody's met
Speaker 1: this dude. I shouldn't say nobody. I'm sure some of
Speaker 1: our local bosses had. Nobody's met the new guy. Ross
Speaker 1: strolls in wearing his uh, one of his favorite hats.
Speaker 1: It's a very nice one.
Speaker 2: That's one of my twenty bills hats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's wearing a Bill's hat. A new guy
Speaker 1: is from Kansas City, and so the first thing the
Speaker 1: guy says to anyone as part of the meeting is
Speaker 1: is accus Ross of trolling him.
Speaker 2: He's like, are you really from New York? I'm like, yes,
Speaker 2: say I'm go Bill's we had a good conversation after
Speaker 2: the meeting for like fifteen to twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it was just about football. It's nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's good. So that's why I'm like, we should
Speaker 1: be here after Thanksgiving. But like, what if you misread
Speaker 1: how it went and he's just like, we'll not have
Speaker 1: Bills fans around here. I mean, I'm just happy. I'm
Speaker 1: a Vikings fan. All right, So, uh, coming up on
Speaker 1: the Old Show today, we got some great audio. I'm
Speaker 1: going to get into that. I don't want to alarm you.
Speaker 1: I don't want to alarm you. But something else looks
Speaker 1: like it has happened in the Russia Ukraine thing that
Speaker 1: some people might be a little concerned about, because remember,
Speaker 1: up to this point, what did we learn. We learned
Speaker 1: the Biden administration told Ukraine, Hey, those long range missiles,
Speaker 1: we got you the ones where we're like, but don't
Speaker 1: shoot them into Russia interior. Yeah, if you want to
Speaker 1: do that, that's fine, go ahead, bro, And they did.
Speaker 1: We also gave them a crap ton apparently of anti
Speaker 1: personnel minds. So that's you know, those are not horrendous
Speaker 1: for many times years and decades to come. People still
Speaker 1: get killed with mines in parts of this world from
Speaker 1: long time ago, which does speak to the engineering of
Speaker 1: the device, but also is pretty horrendous. So yeah, we
Speaker 1: did that, and then yesterday this, and I would say
Speaker 1: this is mostly confirmed, but not one hundred percent like everyone,
Speaker 1: even intelligence officials, seem to think it's a it's a
Speaker 1: certain thing. I'm pointing this out because it's Russia's never
Speaker 1: used an ICBM in a in a battle. They have
Speaker 1: a lot of them, right, This is essentially what you're
Speaker 1: talking about when you're getting into when you know, when
Speaker 1: you're getting into the old arms race of the sixties,
Speaker 1: the seventies, eighties, even fifties for that matter. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so they went ahead and hold on, let me just
Speaker 1: let me just go ahead and read this bad boy,
Speaker 1: which is obviously not a problem at all. Oh where
Speaker 1: did I put well? Anyway? So yeah, so they are
Speaker 1: they are saying that this, this missile that came into
Speaker 1: was fired into the Ukraine. Here we go, Russia's allegedly
Speaker 1: launched an ICBM. Though it does look like the missile
Speaker 1: had a conventional warhead. What it looks like is it
Speaker 1: had a warhead that at a certain altitude, as a
Speaker 1: lot of these missiles do, then broke into I think
Speaker 1: six or eight, which I think is part of the pattern,
Speaker 1: is why they're able to tell what this thing was.
Speaker 1: And an ICBM is a payload issue obviously, so they
Speaker 1: wanted to get a lot there, and clearly, clearly if
Speaker 1: you look at the footage there it was.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: It was successful in decimating literally like six blocks of
Speaker 1: and I don't even know what it says. There were
Speaker 1: some factories there. I don't know the totality of what
Speaker 1: they were trying to stray. I'm going to try to
Speaker 1: pronounce the name. Okay, didn't it props.
Speaker 4: To no.
Speaker 1: D n E prop E t r O vs. Prop tesk.
Speaker 1: I don't know the prop desk. We'll go with the
Speaker 1: prop desk. Uh. In fact, OFFICI will say, not only
Speaker 1: did they have the one capture where you can see
Speaker 1: the six different parts of the missile blow up in total,
Speaker 1: they think that there were four missiles, four warheads, four
Speaker 1: separate ICBMs, so every day just a nice escalation there,
Speaker 1: which will be the next guy's problem, if you know,
Speaker 1: if if they haven't decimated one side or the other
Speaker 1: by then, but you know the idea. You remember when
Speaker 1: Trump said he'd have this solved in a week, already
Speaker 1: said he'd have is solved in a week. Am I crazy? Ross?
Speaker 1: Tell me if I'm crazy, you need to be committed,
Speaker 1: because if I am, then I guess maybe we go home? Right? Uh,
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm crazy? Do you think there are
Speaker 1: people in the power the wholes of powers, you know,
Speaker 1: really the people actually running the government, let's be honest,
Speaker 1: not Joe Biden. Do you think there are people who
Speaker 1: saw what happened in that election realize not only is
Speaker 1: their their job gone here very shortly, but likely they've
Speaker 1: done enough sketchy stuff that they could find themselves with
Speaker 1: the DJ crawling up there behind. Do you think there
Speaker 1: are people petty enough to go, well, the win I
Speaker 1: won't give him is to be able to go in
Speaker 1: and quell this thing. So we're going to escalate it
Speaker 1: so we can't know completely. Okay, I'm not crazy. Okay,
Speaker 1: sometimes you just got to say this stuff out loud,
Speaker 1: not just to yourself, but with other people around, Like,
Speaker 1: are there people that are so callous that they would
Speaker 1: do something to win a political argument that would take
Speaker 1: the lives potentially of so many people.
Speaker 2: I mean, it goes pretty deep. It could go deeper too,
Speaker 2: because there's lots of people that have speculated for a
Speaker 2: while that there's a lot of corruption going on in Ukraine.
Speaker 1: Well there is. Well I don't even have to speculate.
Speaker 1: There is a lot of corruption in Ukraine. That's a
Speaker 1: fact as we observe it here in the United States.
Speaker 1: And that is the position of the federal government. I
Speaker 1: know they want to pretend that it's not right.
Speaker 2: So the longer they can make this thing go on,
Speaker 2: and if they can escalate it, it's a way of
Speaker 2: hiding their corruption.
Speaker 1: It's hyped corruption there are you know, it's very strategic.
Speaker 1: If you've ever seen why where exactly Putin is trying
Speaker 1: to capture parts of Ukraine. If you put up a
Speaker 1: map of the disputed areas basically for the purpose of this,
Speaker 1: and then you put up a map of naturally occurring
Speaker 1: deposits of natural gas and some oil, they mirror exactly.
Speaker 1: And if you put up the pipeline through Ukraine, that's
Speaker 1: in there too. So this is for Putin. This is
Speaker 1: a monetary thing. He doesn't give a crap about people
Speaker 1: who consider themselves primarily Russian that live in the Dawn
Speaker 1: whatever region. If you look at that map, he is
Speaker 1: strategically targeting that pipeline and all of those deposits, which
Speaker 1: essentially are like ninety five percent of Ukraine's deposits, and
Speaker 1: they have a lot of them, which is why you
Speaker 1: have American oil companies tripping over themselves to do these contracts.
Speaker 1: Right they have bp Xon exon Mobile. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think of who are the other big international play But
Speaker 1: the point is these big companies, they all have contracts
Speaker 1: that are currently on hold to extract this stuff. Because
Speaker 1: Ukraine doesn't even extract it itself per se. They let
Speaker 1: these big companies come in and do it, and then
Speaker 1: they just take the money. That's what Putin's going after
Speaker 1: because he needs the money and that's the easiest money
Speaker 1: out there for him. Right now. There is there are
Speaker 1: more natural gas deposits in Ukraine than I think anywhere
Speaker 1: in Russia is in a single geographic area. Because there's
Speaker 1: a largely big, old, untapped part of it. That's what
Speaker 1: he's targeting. So everyone knows what's up. So yeah, it
Speaker 1: could be the I don't I got made to look
Speaker 1: stupid and I might lose my job and my freedom,
Speaker 1: so f all these people attitude, and then there's just
Speaker 1: pure greed, which as we know, is a great motivator
Speaker 1: for things like this. But then, but somebody, you know,
Speaker 1: somebody here had to be like, yeah, no, you want
Speaker 1: some mind. Sure, yeah, you want to shoot ICBMs yourself
Speaker 1: into Russia or other long range missile devices, Sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead, man, absolutely, But I just wonder if for
Speaker 1: some people the motivation isn't one of money, promise, power,
Speaker 1: but rather just ruin over the other dude, because you're petty,
Speaker 1: and you know what, I don't think I'm crazy and
Speaker 1: speculating that that could be a motivator, because I have
Speaker 1: not seen a good argument for saying you should do
Speaker 1: that that I've read, and I've read several pieces from
Speaker 1: all over the spectrum. I wanted the New York Times
Speaker 1: to convince me. I wanted USA Today to convince me.
Speaker 1: I wanted anybody some of these substack guys who writes
Speaker 1: these big, long articles, and one most of them can't
Speaker 1: believe it. And then even the ones like New York
Speaker 1: Times were cool with it, they don't explain why. So
Speaker 1: then I wake up and they're they're slinging ICBMs at
Speaker 1: each other. This seems like the thing that, for decades
Speaker 1: in this country was our single greatest fear, to the
Speaker 1: point where school you had to inundate children with videos
Speaker 1: saying that if you get under your desk, you won't
Speaker 1: get superpowers or you know, eye in a Hiroshima shadow
Speaker 1: like and and and then people built bunkers. I wasn't
Speaker 1: alive long enough. I haven't been alive long enough to
Speaker 1: truly appreciate it. I mean, we were The Berlin Wall
Speaker 1: coming down is like an early childhood memory for me. Right,
Speaker 1: So what you guys were hyped up on, especially in
Speaker 1: the sixties for some of some of our older listeners,
Speaker 1: like I can't imagine what that was like. But it
Speaker 1: went on for decades. It went on for decades, and
Speaker 1: the thing that we were trying oh wait, hold on now,
Speaker 1: I got military missile guys trying to correct me here. Well,
Speaker 1: just to be clear, I'm reporting ICBM because that's what
Speaker 1: there is. So it's SRBM. So it's a heavy payload,
Speaker 1: but it's it can't shoot the other side of the world.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, and they can carry up to ten warheads. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Well whatever it was. It looked like there were six
Speaker 1: six to eight individual you know, explosions when this thing hit.
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, but that's still pretty That is an
Speaker 1: escalation right there, regardless. So you have more acronyms in
Speaker 1: the military. You guys need to just chill pill man
Speaker 1: or CP you could, although I think that's another acronym
Speaker 1: and you shouldn't do that. Six twenty hang on Ross
Speaker 1: is like, oh, my house tried to blow away.
Speaker 2: It came out of nowhere less night.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, Windy Ray mentioned it on the
Speaker 1: I do remember Ray mentioning.
Speaker 2: This this stuff, yeah, out of nowhere, and they like
Speaker 2: it would come and go. It's like a mini hurricane.
Speaker 2: It was super weird. And the entire time I'm thinking
Speaker 2: about like people living in tents in western North Carolina,
Speaker 2: right yeah.
Speaker 1: That's why. That's that's why we had the conversation with
Speaker 1: Ray because he's like snow and wind advisor. I'm like,
Speaker 1: dear God, you do ever do you ever do a
Speaker 1: lot of camp in there? Ross?
Speaker 2: I did up.
Speaker 1: Yes, do you ever do you ever had your tent
Speaker 1: the wind take your try to take your tent? We're
Speaker 1: just no. Because it was like the middle of the summer.
Speaker 2: It was hot and easy and growth.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well sometimes it gets winding in the summer too.
Speaker 1: Like I had a tent I was in we were
Speaker 1: hunt This was a hunting camp for elk and it's
Speaker 1: an outfitters tent. So those are the white canvas where
Speaker 1: you use the actual logs for the support. So it's
Speaker 1: a pretty significant sized tent. Like there's four guy, there's
Speaker 1: you know, there's four bunks in there, a cook stove,
Speaker 1: a dining table, some some random chairs. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of room in there. And uh, well we got some wind.
Speaker 1: This was near Crestedbue, Colorado, up in Black Canyon, which
Speaker 1: is world class. Oh kind of beautiful place. And in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night, man four dudes trying to
Speaker 1: keep that tent from making its way literally down where
Speaker 1: this cliff is and down this hill and there's a
Speaker 1: cliff and then goes down to the water there and
Speaker 1: like pick up the cook stove and all of that,
Speaker 1: and uh, we were just up and it absolutely decimated
Speaker 1: a bunch of supplies that we had too, and we
Speaker 1: did not see it. And that's a strong tent. The
Speaker 1: way that we had that tethered down the video that
Speaker 1: I'm seeing. The people in Swana Nooah are six Steak
Speaker 1: Coleman six Steak Coleman tents and stuff they're sleeping in.
Speaker 1: I mentioned coming up at eight o five. Now, normally
Speaker 1: we chat with Stephen Kent. Unfortunately he had a he
Speaker 1: had a thing, he had a conflict, had something come up.
Speaker 1: So never fear, we decided, so we reach out to
Speaker 1: If you're on Twitter, you've probably seen her stuff, Cassie Clark,
Speaker 1: who I think is doing probably one of the best
Speaker 1: jobs in staying on what's going on in western North
Speaker 1: Carolina and bringing video and she's made inroads with local officials,
Speaker 1: so you know, you're getting this straight dope, so to speak,
Speaker 1: on a lot of this stuff. And yesterday I'm scrolling
Speaker 1: through Twitter and I see a post she made a
Speaker 1: talking about how uh they're you know, there's people obviously
Speaker 1: sleeping intense We've we've, we've, we keep bringing this up
Speaker 1: and we will keep bringing this up. And there are
Speaker 1: people in communities eight weeks later with still no access
Speaker 1: to proper groundwater water that you can you know, get
Speaker 1: near your mouth, so to speak. And and one of
Speaker 1: the questions a lot of people ask myself included is
Speaker 1: do you remember the fields of FEMA trailers after Katrina?
Speaker 1: And remember it turned into such a problem that even
Speaker 1: years later, there were still people living in them and
Speaker 1: they were have and they're like, we need you to
Speaker 1: move out of the FEMA trailer. These are temporary, you
Speaker 1: can't and turn into a whole legal fight, and then
Speaker 1: they were picking on the poor and stuff, and and
Speaker 1: everyone was absolutely outraged that even that long after, they
Speaker 1: would dare have the audacity to deny individuals FEMA trailers.
Speaker 1: And of course it was turned into a left right
Speaker 1: issue when in reality it's like, no, those temporary trailers.
Speaker 1: And on the other side, they're like, yeah, but we
Speaker 1: don't need them right now, so let people live in them.
Speaker 1: And most normal people were kind of got both sides
Speaker 1: of that, but also we're like, but everyone else was
Speaker 1: able to help and get it together, so maybe it's better.
Speaker 1: And then when they got in there, a bunch of
Speaker 1: them were absolutely destroyed, and it was like a continuous
Speaker 1: episode of hoarders going on, right, So I remember and
Speaker 1: others were like, don't we have those I mean, not
Speaker 1: the really gross ones, but we have the other ones, right,
Speaker 1: just literally anything that can provide a certain level of
Speaker 1: first world accommodation, especially when you're running around telling families
Speaker 1: that if they don't find themselves in a situation where
Speaker 1: they meet minimum requirements things like access to hot water.
Speaker 1: You know, occupancy without access to hot water, I believe
Speaker 1: is illegal in a hotel setting. I don't know how
Speaker 1: it works in a setting like this, like if a
Speaker 1: hotel doesn't have access to hot water. And I did
Speaker 1: not know this until me and the boys booked us
Speaker 1: a fun little drum run fishing trip to Hatteras And
Speaker 1: for those of you've ever fished, when the drummer running there,
Speaker 1: it's where my private island is just over there that
Speaker 1: the state tried to climb. Amazing fishing and crazy, like
Speaker 1: it's a crazy fishing experience because there's on this this
Speaker 1: peninsula there's like one hundred people wading in the water,
Speaker 1: and if some dude gets a drum, you reel it in,
Speaker 1: but then he walked back away and you have to
Speaker 1: watch because like drum on hooks are going by your feet. Man.
Speaker 1: But there's a hotel there, which we had, you know,
Speaker 1: we booked like I think there was eight of us.
Speaker 1: We had like eight, you know, eight rooms or whatever,
Speaker 1: and well we showed up like the person iran. It
Speaker 1: was like, I'm very sorry, I can't check you in.
Speaker 1: Our our hot water system failed and they and they
Speaker 1: found us another accommodation. They even bought us dinner, which
Speaker 1: they didn't have to. I mean, just super nice people.
Speaker 1: But they're like, we can't. So I don't know how
Speaker 1: it works. But when you're threatening to take people's kids,
Speaker 1: and I find out looking at Cassie's post yesterday that
Speaker 1: there are FEMA trailers just chilling in Hickory with no
Speaker 1: timeline to get them up there, I could get every
Speaker 1: one of those trailers hold right now if I asked Russ,
Speaker 1: do you believe that? Do you think if we asked
Speaker 1: our audience, who's got a truck two inch ball and
Speaker 1: maybe a half ton suspension minimum, that we could get
Speaker 1: those trailers hold up and it would cost FEMA nothing.
Speaker 1: We could do what you do it in five seconds?
Speaker 1: Why aren't you tapping me? Well, we'll get them hold
Speaker 1: up there. That would be no. You tell us where
Speaker 1: they need to go. And this weekend, even though people
Speaker 1: are preparing to go be with their families for Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: getting that last little bit of work done. People of
Speaker 1: North Carolina would take the time out of their life,
Speaker 1: the money out of their own pocket for the fuel
Speaker 1: in many cases, and haul these wherever you want in
Speaker 1: western North Carolina. So don't give me this. Oh there's
Speaker 1: no timeline. We don't know what we're gonna do. That's
Speaker 1: why we're gonna talk to Cassie. I want to know
Speaker 1: how many are there and if the gate's locked. Okay,
Speaker 1: don't steal him. But this is absurd. This is absurd,
Speaker 1: and it's fixable. It's immediately fixable. I was texting. I
Speaker 1: was texting with the buddy of mine who lives on
Speaker 1: the coast. He lives on the coast, like five minutes
Speaker 1: north of the South Carolina border. That guy would drive up,
Speaker 1: he said, I'll drive up. He goes, I'll one to
Speaker 1: Ash County if you want, pointing to literally like as
Speaker 1: far away as he could possibly be in a second.
Speaker 1: And that dude has a very professional job. He's a doctor.
Speaker 1: It's not Campbell. It's another guy, but I met him
Speaker 1: through Campbell. He I mean, he'll pause his practice for
Speaker 1: a day to do it. So I want to find
Speaker 1: out what's up here, and we need to figure out
Speaker 1: how we get this solved, because, just as Ross pointed out,
Speaker 1: and you probably experienced everyone in North Carolina experience yesterday
Speaker 1: that wind. If you think your house is gonna go, now,
Speaker 1: imagine you're in polypropylene. Those are your walls. And solutions,
Speaker 1: maybe not solutions for everybody, but solutions for some people,
Speaker 1: which every little bit helps is a start. Sit there,
Speaker 1: just hanging out, and to our governor and Lute, how
Speaker 1: do you not go, why the hell do we have
Speaker 1: these trailers sitting in one of our cities and we
Speaker 1: can't get them Hickory, You're halfway there. You can't get
Speaker 1: them up to people. The absolute absurdity. No comment on
Speaker 1: the femas stuff. I will never forgive these two. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have beef. I've had beef with Roy Cooper over
Speaker 1: stuff and I'm fine with it being idological. And Josh
Speaker 1: Stein with his silver spoon and his smirk and his
Speaker 1: bad attitude and his handshake. Ross, did you see his handshake?
Speaker 1: Did you see Josh Stein's handshake? Duh, I'm sorry handshakes.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it's probably because the other dude was
Speaker 2: so strong.
Speaker 1: Did you see that? You see it? Though?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I did see it yes.
Speaker 1: You think that. You think the reason that his wrist
Speaker 1: is turned upward like that, as though he's a king
Speaker 1: asking for his ring to get I'm.
Speaker 2: Going to give him the benefit of the doubt. And
Speaker 2: I think the guy's hand he was shaking was probably
Speaker 2: like an X man or something. It's like a mute
Speaker 2: and it's super strong, and boom almost broke his wrist.
Speaker 1: Because okay, it's not just because Josh Stein has one
Speaker 1: of the weakest handshakes I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: It's not that. Okay, all right, I was I was confused.
Speaker 1: Ross sent me straight here. So, yeah, we have all
Speaker 1: those beefs. If you just get those trailers hold and
Speaker 1: speak up, I'll I won't yell at you for a week.
Speaker 1: How's that like? I will trade the integrity of my
Speaker 1: story selection if it means they get help. I'll still
Speaker 1: do stories, but I won't. Yeah, I'll let the audience
Speaker 1: do it. How about it, guys, How come on, come
Speaker 1: al Roy, these are your people, Josh dot these are
Speaker 1: your people. You guys trade so heavily on your North
Speaker 1: Carolina heritage, which is great, that's fine, And yet you've
Speaker 1: chosen to side with the federal government when there's clearly
Speaker 1: issues here. So that conversation coming up at eight oh five,
Speaker 1: and it just makes me angry. And it makes me
Speaker 1: angry because it's so easily that one thing, not the
Speaker 1: totality of it, but the one thing is so easily solvable.
Speaker 1: Because when you let governments solve it, they come up
Speaker 1: with stuff. Did you know do you do? You guys
Speaker 1: know what's happening in California right now with uh business taxes,
Speaker 1: business payroll taxes. Oh, if you haven't seen this, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: And frankly it's important. I know you say, well to California. No,
Speaker 1: this is important because if this is in fact how
Speaker 1: this works, North Carolina could have this happen to it,
Speaker 1: and it would take politicians like Josh Stein to justify
Speaker 1: and do something like this. Of course you need the
Speaker 1: legislature too, and he doesn't have that, not yet. But
Speaker 1: this is terrifying, and I want any of you who
Speaker 1: work in a small working you don't want any of you.
Speaker 1: This should offend any of you. People are sending me
Speaker 1: pictures of the trailers. Now there's also an add there's
Speaker 1: acres acres of FEMA trailers between Thomasville and Denton. On
Speaker 1: Highway one oh nine. I could get them all holed
Speaker 1: this weekend. I know the one lady can't call me
Speaker 1: anymore because they fired her ass. Yes, and that's good.
Speaker 1: Somebody actually was held accountable for not knowing how to
Speaker 1: do their damn job. Okay, So whoever's making a call
Speaker 1: now text me. I will use this radio platform and
Speaker 1: every minute of my almost every minute, you know, wet
Speaker 1: spots and we got to stay in business. But I
Speaker 1: will use my platform across two of the three major
Speaker 1: metros in this state. A company signals covering five six
Speaker 1: million people. I don't even know what the full footprint
Speaker 1: is of our signals. And I tell you what, I
Speaker 1: could get every one of those trailers holed this weekend.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's public partner public private partnership this
Speaker 1: and you know what I bet if I call our
Speaker 1: buddy Pete down in Charlotte and our buddy Mark out
Speaker 1: there in Asheville to the he's more on the receiving end.
Speaker 1: Mark's the morning guy on the Asheville station. Pete obviously
Speaker 1: we chat with Friday. There's Middays on BT. I think
Speaker 1: between the three of us, we can get every one
Speaker 1: of those things repositioned this weekend, and I think also
Speaker 1: there'd be businesses stepping up to cover fuel and food
Speaker 1: and all of that, because this is something that is
Speaker 1: tangible that people can get behind. Now, if you want
Speaker 1: to tell me those trailers are not the reason they're
Speaker 1: not out there is because they're not functional. There's right there,
Speaker 1: they've been stripped out or something in there. Well, then
Speaker 1: why aren't there people out there working on them? Because
Speaker 1: it seems like the shortest route to getting one rather
Speaker 1: than just building new ones. We'll get into that. But
Speaker 1: when we return, what's happening in California? Why it's happening,
Speaker 1: which is an important component. And also we'll find out
Speaker 1: who was responsible for the murder of Lake and Riley.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So all that more coming up
Speaker 1: CaCO Day Radio program. Ross. I think I've already secured
Speaker 1: forty trucks, and that's probably a light estimate. So what
Speaker 1: are we doing, people, what are we doing? This is easy,
Speaker 1: this is an easy win. Let's go ahead, Let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and get this man. Let me get let me
Speaker 1: get Jason on here. Jason, what's up?
Speaker 5: Hey? If you're serious about this, I can probably get
Speaker 5: you about thirty trucks if you give me enough head up.
Speaker 1: If females are for the state government were to actually
Speaker 1: say we if we give volunteers for this, and we
Speaker 1: can go ahead and haul them, and they would allow
Speaker 1: us to do that with stuff we already own. I'm
Speaker 1: deadly serious, sir. I will spend I will spend whatever
Speaker 1: it takes in valuable radio time not covering their own
Speaker 1: scandalous behavior because this is our priority. And yeah, so
Speaker 1: they won't.
Speaker 5: I'll leave my number with Ross And if you're serious,
Speaker 5: and I'm off next week and I you have at
Speaker 5: least definitely one pickup truck round the clock from Monday
Speaker 5: through Wednesday. If you're serious, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I've got yeah, Jason, I want to be clear, I'm serious.
Speaker 1: But the hurdle here is not whether we could do
Speaker 1: I think we could do it, as evidence by your
Speaker 1: calling all the emails. I'm getting easy. This would be easy, right,
Speaker 1: But it's the it's the bureau the bureaucratic side of this.
Speaker 1: So I'm putting it out into the universe that I
Speaker 1: will personally sit here and and uh and and use
Speaker 1: this radio time to get the people to get the
Speaker 1: equipment to do whatever we can do if the bureaucracy
Speaker 1: side will cooperate. So I want it out there, and
Speaker 1: if you encounter anyone who has any sway over this,
Speaker 1: you tell them that the crazy dude on the radio
Speaker 1: said they'll haul it tomorrow for you.
Speaker 5: All right, Okay, A quick question. So uh Now, I've
Speaker 5: heard reports that people have brought county houses to those
Speaker 5: people and they're telling them they're not zoned for that
Speaker 5: area and they're not letting them bring.
Speaker 1: That again. I've heard a lot of things. That's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons I want to talk to Cassie today.
Speaker 1: There was if you you've been were you when was
Speaker 1: the last time you were in Ashville before the storm
Speaker 1: went through, Sir.
Speaker 5: We were there two weeks before.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, on the right, on the other side
Speaker 1: of the river, we're going over to East Asheville. They
Speaker 1: have that there's that whole neighborhood that's tiny houses right there.
Speaker 1: I guess that was absolutely devastated. So I did see
Speaker 1: a report where they were replacing those, but I don't
Speaker 1: know about the zoning in other areas. Some of the
Speaker 1: thinking that's been done in the upper echelons of emergency response.
Speaker 1: So I got this email, and this is good. This
Speaker 1: is really good because I want you to know this
Speaker 1: is something I considered before just spouting off on the radio,
Speaker 1: which is not my usual m O. I usually just
Speaker 1: say stuff and then deal with it. But I've given
Speaker 1: the a lot of thought when I was looking at
Speaker 1: this trailer thing. Again. I need to know what's going
Speaker 1: on there. But somebody wrote and they're absolutely correct, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna solve I'm going to solve the problem, uh
Speaker 1: within ten seconds after and then I'll finish the California
Speaker 1: story because it's crazy. He said, Well, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: Let me give you some background. All those trailers will
Speaker 1: have to be set up on a non flood plane
Speaker 1: with water sewer and power. This will require flat land
Speaker 1: with the lease and those other items in place. You're
Speaker 1: absolutely right, sir, which is why it's already there. All
Speaker 1: of this already exists, flat land, non flood plane and
Speaker 1: water sewer and power hookups. Do you know how I
Speaker 1: know this because I've been camping before in the Pisca
Speaker 1: National Forest and in other places of North Carolina where
Speaker 1: the you don't even have to lease it from a
Speaker 1: private individual. Do you know how many are v hook
Speaker 1: cup sites currently exist in places like Julian Price. In
Speaker 1: places as you get down much further south, especially in
Speaker 1: and around Swannanoa, around the Lake Lower area, these exist.
Speaker 1: These are RV campsites at National Forest Campsites, campsites on
Speaker 1: the Blue Ridge Parkway with RV hookups. They have a
Speaker 1: series of road stuff. How do I know this because
Speaker 1: while I'm not an RV camper, I know some guys
Speaker 1: who went out and blew a lot of money, like
Speaker 1: stupid rock star money on some crazy campers man, And
Speaker 1: this is what they do. They go, they'll, they'll they'll
Speaker 1: bank up someplace. And that's not even counting the KOA
Speaker 1: stuff right when you get into the private campgrounds, where
Speaker 1: I'm sure you could negotiate something. So these are flat
Speaker 1: parcels by design, flat parcels by design, which in many
Speaker 1: cases not look not all campsites have them, but if
Speaker 1: you go to a campground I think in Ice they
Speaker 1: have what twenty five seventeen as you get down by
Speaker 1: Little Switzerland there because I've tent camped in those. How
Speaker 1: many RV hookups are on Mount Mitchell in that lower
Speaker 1: lot just before you get up to the top with
Speaker 1: the restaurant and everything. That whole lower lot is RV
Speaker 1: stuff too.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 1: They have a tent, they have a tech camp areas
Speaker 1: the highest up. Then they have RV's you get a
Speaker 1: little down there. These have the infrastructure and hookups. These
Speaker 1: are by design flat parcels of land, because that is
Speaker 1: what is demanded by RV people. Now does it crimp
Speaker 1: RV people being able to maybe access some of these
Speaker 1: right now? Yes, but you're telling me on land you
Speaker 1: own that is already graded, that has the service that
Speaker 1: is required here and FEMA trailers are twenty five feet
Speaker 1: or forty feet. They have some bigger ones that are
Speaker 1: meant not for living but for rather offices and working,
Speaker 1: you know, like disaster work stuff. So we're not talking
Speaker 1: about those. They're forty feet and twenty five feet. Why
Speaker 1: is that important because forty feet is generally the max length,
Speaker 1: or it's slightly more, but it's you can usually go
Speaker 1: forty and a half feet for some reason on these
Speaker 1: that you can put on these parcels, these RV hookups.
Speaker 1: You don't believe me. Go on to the there's there's
Speaker 1: a website. There's tons of them, but just type camp
Speaker 1: RV camping Pisca National Forest, and you'll get slammed in
Speaker 1: the face. You go to places like Outdoorsy, which is
Speaker 1: it's like a hotels dot com for URV stay. You
Speaker 1: search all this stuff where you can go to the
Speaker 1: state website where you go to like reserve campsites, like
Speaker 1: if you're going to Price, if you're going to any
Speaker 1: of the other places. So I have thought about this,
Speaker 1: and you're absolutely right, and this is it's so great
Speaker 1: that we essentially have a solution right here. We've done
Speaker 1: the work. We did the heavy lift. Go throw a
Speaker 1: trailer on there. Is it gonna be one minute from
Speaker 1: the person's former where their residence was? No, probably not.
Speaker 1: Most people don't live a mile from the campground. But
Speaker 1: it'll be closed. It'll be held a lot closer in
Speaker 1: the Greensboro facility, which, by the way, why isn't that
Speaker 1: filling up with people. I understand the frustration of giving
Speaker 1: people vouchers for hotels that are sometimes two hours away.
Speaker 1: I get it, But there with that many people displaced
Speaker 1: and that that many problems out there, they just may
Speaker 1: not exist. Plus, FEMA basically has the whole Cherokee casino,
Speaker 1: so I can't go there.
Speaker 4: This is.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I need to hear a logical objection
Speaker 1: to what's going on, and it may exist. I hold
Speaker 1: that out, but if not, let us help. Let us
Speaker 1: help you. Let's do this. And if it means that
Speaker 1: I can't go camping up at Price this year, because
Speaker 1: there's still people staying up there and they're on the
Speaker 1: Lakeside site, which isn't the RV, that's a tent site,
Speaker 1: so maybe I'd be okay, that's fine because I'm human
Speaker 1: and I'm like those people don't have a home. I
Speaker 1: just want to go catch some fish for the weekend.
Speaker 1: This is easy stuff, Michael, what's up.
Speaker 5: I used to work for FEMA.
Speaker 4: I'm retired Navy guy, and it's not hard to get
Speaker 4: into a job like FEMA and work your way up
Speaker 4: when you're military. You know, we're talking federal people. There's
Speaker 4: good people on FEMA. But I started off as a courier.
Speaker 4: I did eliminated damage assessments. Katrina was when I really
Speaker 4: got my feet wet, and I just moved up the
Speaker 4: totem pole and out in the field. I was fine,
Speaker 4: but the better I did, the more I did, the
Speaker 4: more qualifications I got, they moved me into the management position.
Speaker 4: So I was a housing chief and I did the
Speaker 4: staging for the FEMA trailers for the mobile homes.
Speaker 1: So so why wouldn't well before you tell us because
Speaker 1: how it turned out. I'm just curious. Is it sounds
Speaker 1: so crazy that you would take in exempting an existing
Speaker 1: level campsite with sewer, water and electrical hookups and propose
Speaker 1: putting a trailer that fits the dimensions of the plot
Speaker 1: and doing so in an emergency fashion. Like does that
Speaker 1: sound that crazy, sir? Because it doesn't sound crazy to me.
Speaker 1: It sounds like a logical way to take advantage of
Speaker 1: our resources.
Speaker 4: It's not crazy. That's one of the things I did.
Speaker 4: I was in construction until I got put out of
Speaker 4: business by the illegals up in West Jefferson, and so
Speaker 4: that was one of the things I did. And we
Speaker 4: would make what they call the FEMA sites. But you
Speaker 4: could get a location, put a bunch of trailers out there,
Speaker 4: but the people go out do their inspection. You've got
Speaker 4: to be able to put in a sewer system. You've
Speaker 4: got to be able to get the power. You know,
Speaker 4: it's like the two.
Speaker 1: Main things that's your lot. So it's all there. I'm
Speaker 1: going campus right already existing, yes.
Speaker 4: And we used to use local contractors. After Katrina it
Speaker 4: went to maybe six contractors throughout the United States, and
Speaker 4: the Katrina disaster was when it transitioned because we couldn't
Speaker 4: figure out, why can't we get these local guys to
Speaker 4: move these trailers. We had to wait two weeks for
Speaker 4: people get mobilized, and we were the ones that were
Speaker 4: doing this, and we didn't even know because we hadn't
Speaker 4: been informed. Well, we don't use local contractors anymore. I
Speaker 4: did a tornado down in Florida and the district person
Speaker 4: running the Joint field office was I was not a
Speaker 4: fan of his, and I told him, don't go on
Speaker 4: the news, and it was the exact same thing, Why
Speaker 4: are we waiting? Why are we waiting? And he said
Speaker 4: I will get when I'm the news and told them
Speaker 4: I'll have enough contractors in here halland trailers in two days.
Speaker 4: We'll get it done. And I told him not to
Speaker 4: do it. It probably loses his job. Well, government people
Speaker 4: never lose their job no matter what they do. And
Speaker 4: sure enough they sent another manager down.
Speaker 1: And swamped them out.
Speaker 4: I wanted to know why he made that comment on TV,
Speaker 4: and it was because we've gone from local people that
Speaker 4: can do exactly what you're saying. We went from that,
Speaker 4: and when I became a contracting officer and they want
Speaker 4: to move me to DC, that's what.
Speaker 6: I got out.
Speaker 4: I said, I can't stand this. This whole FEMA is
Speaker 4: a taxpayer rip off. It's not con tuitional. It's a
Speaker 4: eighty twenty eighty percent of the people are leeches. Twenty
Speaker 4: percent of the people are people like me that get
Speaker 4: into it. They want to do good, they want to
Speaker 4: save the tax dollars, and it ain't happening. They got
Speaker 4: six contractors that nobody can compete with.
Speaker 1: What absolute lenescy. Meanwhile, I could go down to the
Speaker 1: little brown jug and Joco and talk twenty people into
Speaker 1: helping us ault trailers in five minutes, I.
Speaker 4: Mean exactly exactly. And what they will do is these
Speaker 4: six contractors who are so big. We're talking can you
Speaker 4: mobilize like a situation like Katrina. You know, we're talking
Speaker 4: to big ones. Can you mobilize people in forty eight hours?
Speaker 4: Well they say they can, but they can't. And what
Speaker 4: they're doing is they're going to call They've got people
Speaker 4: set up in different regions and they call them and say,
Speaker 4: get the local contractors together and we're going to start
Speaker 4: doing this. So see it went from the lower anyhow,
Speaker 4: that's who they're going to.
Speaker 5: Be making me for a lot of things.
Speaker 4: But it's got to go through the government. And I mean,
Speaker 4: it's nuts. I couldn't stand it. I said, I'm done.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be a part of the problem.
Speaker 4: I couldn't sleep at night and I was making money
Speaker 4: hand over fist. And that's why these people don't quit.
Speaker 4: It's too good of it's a gravy train. And and
Speaker 4: I mean, in fact, to work for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't have to quit, sir. We can fire
Speaker 1: them if we had any stones about us, Like we
Speaker 1: just fired the woman in charge of the Hurricane Matthew
Speaker 1: stuff here in North Carolina. You know why, because they're
Speaker 1: still they haven't done stuff a bunch of stuff, right,
Speaker 1: So how hopeful, how how helpful can you be living
Speaker 1: in a tent watching that they just had to finally
Speaker 1: fire this woman in charge of Matthew of Matthew Hurricane
Speaker 1: Matthew relief.
Speaker 4: Somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm sorry, I'm not paying God bless you
Speaker 1: for one to do thatand it and then people within FEMA,
Speaker 1: and I have I have interviewed people with FEMA that
Speaker 1: I thought were very confident in their jobs. But you're right.
Speaker 1: Once the man it's and this is like I was
Speaker 1: talking about yesterday. Once the management attitude and thank you
Speaker 1: very much for the call, Michael. The management attitude is
Speaker 1: is one that is wrought with bureaucracy and then they
Speaker 1: are willing to accept it. I don't know how you
Speaker 1: live with yourself there. You want me to make a
Speaker 1: prediction that's running through my mind that I hope is
Speaker 1: one hundred percent wrong, and people are gonna scream and
Speaker 1: say that I'm fear mongering. Somebody is going to freeze
Speaker 1: to death. I'm a kid who grew up in the mountains.
Speaker 1: Somebody's going to freeze to death. The what you need
Speaker 1: to winter camp? Have how many of you have winter camped?
Speaker 1: How many of you have winter camped where? Because you
Speaker 1: didn't wrap enough blankets around the prope it turned to
Speaker 1: gel in the canister? Did you know it can do that?
Speaker 6: I do.
Speaker 1: The amount of things that you need to be able
Speaker 1: to do that, and that's not And also there's things
Speaker 1: you don't do. There are parts of the day where
Speaker 1: you're not outside, you don't come in contact with water.
Speaker 1: You don't drink alcohol in that situation because it gives
Speaker 1: you a false sense of the internal temperature of your body.
Speaker 1: And if you drink too much, people freeze to death
Speaker 1: in tents. And somebody who's living in a tent for
Speaker 1: eight weeks in Swanna Noah, thinking help will never come,
Speaker 1: might damn well reach for the bottle. And then what
Speaker 1: are we gonna say? I shouldn't I should have called somebody?
Speaker 1: Who who should they have called? I don't have any family,
Speaker 1: I have friends. I don't have family not here. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have two sisters and a brother. Other than that,
Speaker 1: the rest of my family is dead, gone, and neither
Speaker 1: of those three are anywhere near here. So what about that?
Speaker 1: Remember that old lady who went back in her house
Speaker 1: and was the fatality there in Chimney Chimney Rock didn't
Speaker 1: have anybody, That's what they said. So now you're living
Speaker 1: in a tent. You're getting a wall of wind that
Speaker 1: is making homeowners nervous, home occupiers nervous, and you get
Speaker 1: snow on top of it, and you get wet snows.
Speaker 1: It's see, it's even gonna be worse. Than snow. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be wet snow because of where the temperatures are
Speaker 1: is right now, which is far worse. Is then you
Speaker 1: get ice pretty quickly. It's just the whole thing is maddening,
Speaker 1: and the thing in California is maddening because it shows
Speaker 1: you the inefficiency of stuff. So in the state of California,
Speaker 1: they took that twenty million dollar loan to show up
Speaker 1: their unemployment fund, which they squandered through just hey, who
Speaker 1: wants money, come to the money room. All of that happened,
Speaker 1: and then they made a conscious decision budgeting to not
Speaker 1: pay it. So this isn't They didn't have the money,
Speaker 1: and now the bank's coming for their house, you know what,
Speaker 1: like normal people deal with. They had the money per se, right,
Speaker 1: they but they couldn't cut any of their their pets, stuff.
Speaker 1: So they just didn't pay it. Why because the federal
Speaker 1: government has recourse. And I learned about this when I
Speaker 1: saw it. Do you know who chef Andrew Gruel is
Speaker 1: on Twitter? It's pretty He posts a lot, but he
Speaker 1: also owns a couple He owns restaurants in California. American
Speaker 1: Gravy is one of them. Slapfish is the other one,
Speaker 1: all right, And I think they have a few locations
Speaker 1: in around La there. So he was doing his payroll
Speaker 1: and he because you enter it into the state system
Speaker 1: there for his payroll, and it was two thousand dollars more,
Speaker 1: and they were trying to what the hell's the two
Speaker 1: thousand Because when you take loan from the Feds as
Speaker 1: a state and you don't pay it, the backup their
Speaker 1: leverage is they then tax your businesses. So every State
Speaker 1: of California business that pays federal tax saw an increase.
Speaker 1: His was two thousand dollars in one month. That's twenty
Speaker 1: four thousand dollars a year for however long it takes
Speaker 1: to meet this obligation that his business is and others
Speaker 1: will have to pay because the state borrowed the money,
Speaker 1: use them as the collateral, and is now forcing them.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, if you try to sell
Speaker 1: your business and leave, that's an exit tax. The amount
Speaker 1: of absurdity that we're having to fish through on the
Speaker 1: show today is crazy. We'll be back, but I want
Speaker 1: to point out I'm putting this plan together on the
Speaker 1: fly while I'm doing a radio show. I know it
Speaker 1: doesn't sound impressive, but it's really I'm like having to
Speaker 1: read stuff while I'm talking, okay, because I just want
Speaker 1: to make sure. I'm like, I'm not crazy. If you
Speaker 1: have trailers, you have trailer spots. I know I'm harping
Speaker 1: on this, but hear me out. Three hundred and forty
Speaker 1: is the number of RV campgrounds that currently exist in
Speaker 1: the state of North Carolina's state owned or so state
Speaker 1: parks or state owned attractions. Three hundred and forty. Now,
Speaker 1: they're not all in Western North Carolina, however, the majority
Speaker 1: are and in western North Carolina. That number translates to
Speaker 1: once you break it down by region, so not counting
Speaker 1: the Piedmont, not counting eastern North Carolina. Currently, there are
Speaker 1: four hundred and eighty one RV sites that include electrical, sewer,
Speaker 1: and water. Now, some of them may have been impacted
Speaker 1: for the same reason that people don't have access to
Speaker 1: water or electricity in some areas of western North Carolina.
Speaker 1: I yield that this is but those are just state
Speaker 1: spaces and I did. This didn't dawn on me, but
Speaker 1: then when I was researching this it did. In addition
Speaker 1: to four hundred and eighty one camp sites which have
Speaker 1: the basic necessities of life. They have. We the state
Speaker 1: of North Carolina has one hundred and fifty one reservable cabins.
Speaker 1: I forgot about these reservable cabins with sewer, water and electricity,
Speaker 1: with the exception of but these are not state ones.
Speaker 1: Some of the cabins that are utilized along the Old
Speaker 1: app trail up there, So that's not that doesn't count
Speaker 1: anything in the federal system. So when I talk about
Speaker 1: like Price, that's a state park. When you look at
Speaker 1: campgrounds in the Pizga, those are generally federal Blue Ridge
Speaker 1: Parkway federal, and I am. I can't track down the
Speaker 1: number of the FED sites, but if there's four hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty one r V sites plus one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty one cabins, you do almost six nred and fifty
Speaker 1: people or not not just people families, families who are
Speaker 1: living in a tent right now. Shouldn't be you grab
Speaker 1: a call here, Alan, what's up?
Speaker 6: Hey, thanks for taking my call. I hope you're doing
Speaker 6: well your.
Speaker 1: Last collar tent in the mountains, Sir, I'm doing fantastical.
Speaker 1: And he's gonna tell I'm a retired Yeah, I'm a
Speaker 1: retired engineer from the North Carolina National Guard.
Speaker 6: I've been on multiple state active duties, sure, And what
Speaker 6: makes me frustrated is as soon as FEMA shows up
Speaker 6: and the bureaucracy hits you can't do nothing. For example,
Speaker 6: we operate chainsaws. You could not operate chainsaws to help
Speaker 6: the state of South Carolina because we weren't forestry certified
Speaker 6: to operate a chainsaw. I understand if I'm cutting a
Speaker 6: tree down beside a house, but if the treams are already
Speaker 6: on the house, what does that matter? Licensed by the
Speaker 6: military to use a chainsaw. The other thing is every
Speaker 6: year we're looking for projects, the state buys the material
Speaker 6: to do the project. Why can't we repair FEMA trailers.
Speaker 1: Right now? This is what I mean. If I don't
Speaker 1: know that our old government, I don't know the full state.
Speaker 1: But to your point, this is you guys are exactly
Speaker 1: like explain explain to people, because I think people lost
Speaker 1: it when they were hearing like the staging that was
Speaker 1: going on down to Brag for like a week before
Speaker 1: they let those soldiers in. You guys have whole divisions
Speaker 1: probably not the right word, but there are groups where
Speaker 1: this is your moo, correct, this is it.
Speaker 6: This is so in the engineers. In the engineers, we
Speaker 6: have electricians, farmers, we have carpentry, masonry, we have heavy
Speaker 6: equipment operators, so we can do everything from big a
Speaker 6: foundation to put a roof on a house. The problem
Speaker 6: is is when we get well, there's lots of problems.
Speaker 6: But under previous administrations, we would, like I remember, we
Speaker 6: would be on call twenty four hours. Hey, a hurricane's coming.
Speaker 6: Get your go bag ready in case we.
Speaker 4: Get called up.
Speaker 6: You report to the armory within twenty four hours. We
Speaker 6: were boots on the ground.
Speaker 1: But now my friend's telling me, like, they give them
Speaker 1: three days of this time around them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they now they sit around, But I mean we
Speaker 6: would already be staged closer to the area. Like, so
Speaker 6: the hurricane's going to hit the mountains, So the day
Speaker 6: before the hurricane hits, a lot of times we would
Speaker 6: be staged in Hickory with all our equipment and all
Speaker 6: our guys.
Speaker 4: Ye, and we're ready to go.
Speaker 6: And when when you're first on the ground, you usually
Speaker 6: work with the local sheriff, local police, or the local
Speaker 6: fire department, and we would help clear the routes for
Speaker 6: emergency services. But then as soon as FEMA stepped in
Speaker 6: it was like, stop what you're doing. We got to
Speaker 6: get permission, we got to get authorization. And Casey's it
Speaker 6: around for three or four days doing nothing and.
Speaker 1: You dude, the chainsaw thing blows me away because South
Speaker 1: Carolina is such a lawless land for everything else, so
Speaker 1: they didn't think you know how to run.
Speaker 6: Well it wasn't, but it wasn't. But it wasn't South Carolina.
Speaker 6: That's just it. I mean we went down there, what
Speaker 6: was it six seven years ago, Yeah, when they had
Speaker 6: all the flooding, and you know, you're out there trying
Speaker 6: to you want to operate a chainsaw, and anybody that
Speaker 6: served in the military will tell you, like, you don't
Speaker 6: just get licensed on a chainsaw. You get licensed on
Speaker 6: every type of chainsaw the military has. So if there's
Speaker 6: a chainsaw and you're not licensed on it, you can't
Speaker 6: use it. So, you know, I'm like, if I was
Speaker 6: cutting a tree down free standing beside a house, you know,
Speaker 6: I'd want to be concerned. I'd want somebody to be
Speaker 6: licensed and bonded and all that. But if the tree
Speaker 6: is already down and it's blocking the road and the
Speaker 6: ambulance seems to get through you to save somebody who
Speaker 6: cares if your licensed is by the federal government to
Speaker 6: cut down a truth.
Speaker 1: My eleven year old nephew who can run a chainsaw,
Speaker 1: just be honest, right, you.
Speaker 6: Know, and you know, yeah, and if you just make
Speaker 6: one cut and hook a chain up to it and
Speaker 6: drag the tree off the road, at least then emergency
Speaker 6: vehicles can get through. But you know, when they put
Speaker 6: a stop to everything, and then you're sitting there scratching
Speaker 6: your head like this is why I joined the National Guard,
Speaker 6: because I get to serve in the military, but I
Speaker 6: also get to serve my community. When the natural disaster
Speaker 6: hits and and it's it gets so frustrating because you're
Speaker 6: like sitting there for three or four days until you
Speaker 6: get to do anything, and then it's like not even.
Speaker 1: Really doing it, sharpening your blades, just waiting to turn
Speaker 1: it on. Crazy Alan taking the vehicle. Yeah, hey, I
Speaker 1: appreciate the call this morning, and you know, thank you
Speaker 1: too for you know, making that commitments the community, even
Speaker 1: if people stood in your way, so I can't even imagine.
Speaker 6: I appreciate it, and thank you for all you guys do.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 6: I love your show and I listened.
Speaker 1: Every day we're blowhearts.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: You're out there running a chain saw when they let you.
Speaker 1: So that's that's good.
Speaker 6: Sick not anymore. I'm retired back case.
Speaker 1: Oh so now you can't you're not you're not licensed.
Speaker 1: I understand, all right, Alan appreciate it. Have a good
Speaker 1: one there. Uh and then somebody else send me this email?
Speaker 2: You here?
Speaker 1: You ready? You just you was your craft some more?
Speaker 6: This?
Speaker 1: Why I'm sorry? Does any you want me to do
Speaker 1: a story that's not this for just like two minutes
Speaker 1: so we can all calm down because the next email
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read you it might put you over the
Speaker 1: top instead. Why don't we go and real just real quick,
Speaker 1: and then we'll do the weather in a moment. Let's
Speaker 1: uh So the the the ghoul who murdered Lake and
Speaker 1: Riley was sentenced to stay to life in prison, which
Speaker 1: I hate Like this week, that guy and this that
Speaker 1: sick woman who cooked her babies in the oven filmed
Speaker 1: it to spite her boyfriend or husband both got life
Speaker 1: and not the wood chipper, which is frank. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm licensed to run one near Forrest, but
Speaker 1: I think that's where they both should go. But how
Speaker 1: did it happen well, CNN did the analysis.
Speaker 7: It was important to note that all of this vitriol
Speaker 7: that we're hearing from Republicans and President elect Trump regarding
Speaker 7: the policies of the Biden administration, it's important to know
Speaker 7: that President Trump, President elect Trump did force Republicans to
Speaker 7: essentially tank a bipartisan border security bill that both sides
Speaker 7: of the aisle said would have essentially addressed border security
Speaker 7: and immigration issues.
Speaker 1: Here, okay, about nine things, Y're one, the bill that
Speaker 1: only contained twelve percent of its funding to actually dealing
Speaker 1: with immigration stuff. The rest was Ukraine, Israel, bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff that had nothing to do with it. Two, That
Speaker 1: bill was proposed after Lakenriley was killed, so it would
Speaker 1: have done nothing, And frankly, there's not a lot of
Speaker 1: confidence it would have done anything anyway, because the monies
Speaker 1: were about getting more people to the border and to
Speaker 1: facilitate essentially the fast tracking of people into the country.
Speaker 1: Now they were going to It wasn't remain in Mexico.
Speaker 1: There was going to be some extra barriers there, but
Speaker 1: it wouldn't do anything with dudes already running around who
Speaker 1: had committed multiple crimes in multiple states. So the level
Speaker 1: of dishonesty over there at CNN and others that like
Speaker 1: MSNBC is probably going away. You realize that right as
Speaker 1: you know it at least named that NBC wants that
Speaker 1: carcass off of their payroll. They finally come to the
Speaker 1: conclusion that it's damaging the NBC News brand. It's very
Speaker 1: clear with the discussions they're having right now. The irony
Speaker 1: is they don't recognize that the NBC News brand also
Speaker 1: damages the NBC News brand. But you know who buys it?
Speaker 1: Soros is kid who just bought all those radio stations?
Speaker 1: Am I allowed to bring up Soros?
Speaker 3: So that?
Speaker 1: I mean, they did just buy all those radio stations.
Speaker 1: They buy that and then just flip it. What happens
Speaker 1: to the immense salaries that people like Madow and them again?
Speaker 1: And Morning Joe? Oh Man, what happens to Morning Joe?
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why he's up in the winter White house
Speaker 1: kissing butt. The other day anyway, raced Agic from the
Speaker 1: Weather Channel, why'd you try to blow poor Ross's house
Speaker 1: down yesterday?
Speaker 8: I huffed and I puffed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did some huffing and puffing. It's the first
Speaker 1: thing Ross said to me this morning's like, holy crap,
Speaker 1: that wind yesterday My house almost blew over, So I
Speaker 1: need you to not do that again.
Speaker 8: Well that was the almost said arctic front. Not really
Speaker 8: an Arctic front yet. We're getting into that time of
Speaker 8: year though, I was the cold front and now the
Speaker 8: chili temperatures. Just again, do you have a freeze watch
Speaker 8: actually covering up most of the triangle here for tomorrow morning,
Speaker 8: So the colder air continues to come in. I mean
Speaker 8: we could get to the mid fiftiest. Yeah, yeah, they
Speaker 8: could be. They could be, but the wind's gonna make
Speaker 8: it feel chillier. The winds haven't picked up yet. We'll
Speaker 8: have to get the sun to continue to shine on
Speaker 8: the atmosphere we call mixing. So once we see the
Speaker 8: winds from the upper levels, it's a it's a physics thing.
Speaker 8: I don't want to get into it already did, but
Speaker 8: just it's going to be breezy to windy later, how
Speaker 8: about that? And it's not going to feel like the
Speaker 8: fifties tonight near freezing. Thus the freeze watch for some
Speaker 8: of us that may not have had freezing temperatures yet.
Speaker 8: Tomorrow is still a gusty breeze in the low fifties.
Speaker 8: Over the weekend, we get a little mile they're back
Speaker 8: close to our above sixty degrees for the triangle, probably
Speaker 8: staying in the fifties for the triad and then near
Speaker 8: seventy Monday, so we will get warm up. This little
Speaker 8: cold snap in the mountains are winter weather advisories now,
Speaker 8: and they do get into the western North Carolina Mountains. Haywood,
Speaker 8: Yancey Counties, not bunkhom County where Ashville resides.
Speaker 1: So our buddy Mark's doing Okay, give me the haywood.
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of damage, and he give me the haywood.
Speaker 1: How cold is it going to be tonight? Because we
Speaker 1: have people living in tents and we have FEMA trailers
Speaker 1: sitting right Hickory that nobody will move. So sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: very Yeah, it's yeah.
Speaker 8: It's winds maybe twenty to thirty miles per hour snow.
Speaker 8: Hickory may see a slusher light accumulation, but there could
Speaker 8: be two to four inches in some of the higher
Speaker 8: peaks above two or three thousand feet, so really low
Speaker 8: times on where you are. Heywood, Heywood, Okay, so Heywood,
Speaker 8: Heywood County. Yeah, there may be a couple of inches
Speaker 8: of snow accumulating too. So let's see heywo Yancey Madison
Speaker 8: Counties in that heywood in the winter weather advisory that
Speaker 8: could be for up to maybe four to seven inches
Speaker 8: above five thousand feet so and the wind's gusting, so
Speaker 8: it's gonna feel like winter.
Speaker 1: Take every one of our election officials, dump them in
Speaker 1: their boxers out in the middle of that crap and
Speaker 1: just leave them.
Speaker 4: Just that'd be cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's another word that's going for. That's not nices.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: All right, you, I'm sorry to drag you into my
Speaker 1: cv atre problem. So yeah, problem, all right, we'll talk
Speaker 1: in an hour. I'll try to be nicer, uh seven
Speaker 1: eight CaCO Day Radio program, and it's just gonna ramp
Speaker 1: up because we're gonna chat with h social media may
Speaker 1: even I don't I don't even know what she calls herself,
Speaker 1: but anyway, Cassie Clark, who is she's up in this
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about all these things we've been
Speaker 1: rambling on. But when we come back, I'm gonna read
Speaker 1: you an email I just got from somebody who's in
Speaker 1: the the old power business, and it's it's it's gonna
Speaker 1: raise your blood pressure. So you've been warned. We'll be back.
Speaker 1: Want one more bite at this apple before we again.
Speaker 1: We go chat with Cassie Clark, social media influencer and
Speaker 1: uh a hawk on what's going on in North Carolina's
Speaker 1: western uh western mountains and uh this FEMA trailer thing.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we'll get into all of this. And by
Speaker 1: the way, I probably have one hundred trucks where people
Speaker 1: would immediately plus I gotta we got a bunch of
Speaker 1: great listeners that you know, they houl heavy equipment and whatnot.
Speaker 1: So the trucks they have or are We're not just
Speaker 1: talking f two fifties here. We're talking the big boys,
Speaker 1: which is good because it doesn't matter at that point.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: If you got the equipment to go ahead and haul it,
Speaker 1: then you do it. And the amount of people that
Speaker 1: would come forward within it will take nothing. And I
Speaker 1: don't care whether you're in your standard pickup truck. In fact,
Speaker 1: I was gonna look up the gross weight on one
Speaker 1: of these things. This coupled with the ability to have
Speaker 1: access to these campgrounds. I don't know why this isn't
Speaker 1: at the very least the first thing easy that you
Speaker 1: do and then do other stuff. So you you know,
Speaker 1: have your personal truck, have that dually you bought because
Speaker 1: you work a construction gig. Be a Kenworth pulling logs,
Speaker 1: a cab over pete with a refront, or a Jimmy
Speaker 1: holl And hoggs. I don't care, and some of you
Speaker 1: will get that reference. I don't care. And the people
Speaker 1: who are sitting intense freezing their ass off side, they
Speaker 1: don't care either. This is wild. And then I read
Speaker 1: this and then I just lose my mind more. Uh,
Speaker 1: all right, be very careful here. A lot of people,
Speaker 1: a lot of people and understandably don't want their names
Speaker 1: used because they're surrounded by bureaucrats. You do too, too. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I got this email. This is from a guy
Speaker 1: who who works as alignment or works with the linemen,
Speaker 1: and he says that quote. We went to what we
Speaker 1: went to restore in western North Carolina. The company, the
Speaker 1: power company, I'm not sure which one. Set up an
Speaker 1: entire camp with showers, lodging trailers, food tens, so commas.
Speaker 1: You know you got commissary, you got stores, you've got cafeteria,
Speaker 1: you've got the shower facilities, You've got all of this
Speaker 1: for thousands of linemen in a weekend. The mini city
Speaker 1: also includes its own fuel for everything, right, so they
Speaker 1: keep it all. I'm assuming it's massive general I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter. They've set up a facility so
Speaker 1: that these linemen can do the really important work that
Speaker 1: they're doing, which is to spread out. And within a
Speaker 1: weekend they took a parcel of land and turned it
Speaker 1: into a thousands of multi thousands of people's city for
Speaker 1: people who are going to spend really long days working
Speaker 1: and need to be able just to you know, have
Speaker 1: five minutes to get some sleep and some food and
Speaker 1: all of it. And they're able to facilitate that. And
Speaker 1: you know why, because they're not the government. Because they're
Speaker 1: not the government, and so they can go ahead and
Speaker 1: do this. I surprised some bureaucrats not over there, like, oh,
Speaker 1: we brought the fire marshal, let's check see how many
Speaker 1: people you have to shut up. It's been me just
Speaker 1: trying not to lose my crap all morning. So now
Speaker 1: I'm going to push that responsibility off on our guest,
Speaker 1: Cassie Clark, you follow on Twitter at Dogwood Blooms, a
Speaker 1: very good source of what's been happening out in West
Speaker 1: North Carolina, Western North Carolina, and more specifically, what's not
Speaker 1: been happening, and that has been the focus this morning. Cassie,
Speaker 1: how you doing today?
Speaker 3: I'm good.
Speaker 5: How are you well?
Speaker 1: I'm not living in a tent in Swannanoah with two
Speaker 1: inches of forecasted wet snow.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good thing, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Unfortunately. Look, I saw your post yesterday and then
Speaker 1: our discussion this morning. I just wanted to prove a
Speaker 1: point and I want to talk about these FEMA trailers
Speaker 1: within one segment of this show. I've got one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty people with trucks that can haul these things
Speaker 1: who will go drive there tomorrow. The need for flat
Speaker 1: space with sewer, water and electric exists in western North
Speaker 1: Carolina to the tune of four hundred and fifty one
Speaker 1: state park places one hundred and fifty cabins, and that's
Speaker 1: not counting fed campgrounds for urvs which are established and ready.
Speaker 1: Why what is going on in Hickory and why are
Speaker 1: those trailers there and not say in Price Park near
Speaker 1: Blowing Rock? What is going on?
Speaker 3: So I've been on the phone with multiple people who
Speaker 3: are involved in politics. You can know that I'm not.
Speaker 3: From what I understand. The problem with getting the trailers
Speaker 3: into western North Carolina is they will not set those
Speaker 3: up in floodplains. And after the storm, a great many
Speaker 3: people who are hurting right now own property where in floodplains.
Speaker 1: Understandable, and that's why when I say, I understand why
Speaker 1: you don't want to go stick it on a guy's
Speaker 1: plot of land if it's in a floodplain, although some
Speaker 1: of it I don't because of what they've now expanded
Speaker 1: the definition of floodplain. But those campgrounds are not they're
Speaker 1: specifically not that we don't build those in floodplains. If
Speaker 1: you go to Price, you'd understand, and I'm sure you've
Speaker 1: camped over the years and one of our beautiful campgrounds
Speaker 1: here in North Carolina. They don't build those in flood plains,
Speaker 1: and so they have and they're flat and they're ready
Speaker 1: to rock and roll. Has this even been discussed with
Speaker 1: any of the folks you've been speaking with, because it
Speaker 1: sounds like a solution, or at least a temporary solution.
Speaker 3: I have not heard that at all. But I think
Speaker 3: it's important to remember that hillbilly culture is different than
Speaker 3: anywhere else right. And so you know I've said this before.
Speaker 3: I'm a part owner of a piece of property in Canton,
Speaker 3: North Carolina. That piece of property has been in my
Speaker 3: family for five generations. To me, that piece of land
Speaker 3: is like my family. I love it dearly. You would
Speaker 3: not tell me that I cannot live there if I
Speaker 3: wanted to. You could not convince me of that, right.
Speaker 3: That's part of my culture. And so a lot of
Speaker 3: these people who live on these plots of land that
Speaker 3: have been flooded out, it's land that they've inherited, right,
Speaker 3: and so they're going to be just as attached to
Speaker 3: that piece of property as I am to mine. And
Speaker 3: so there's going to be a huge cultural disconnect between
Speaker 3: the rules and regulation set by FEMA and local entities
Speaker 3: and the people who are living on those plots of land.
Speaker 1: And let's talk about those people for a moment. And
Speaker 1: your family and my family have something in common that
Speaker 1: most people don't realize happened to families who homesteaded, you know,
Speaker 1: before the establishment of things like the Pisca National Forest
Speaker 1: or in my case, the Born National Forest. My family
Speaker 1: grew up a big chunk of that national forest you
Speaker 1: all enjoy used to be our property. Okay, and Andy,
Speaker 1: they went through this reclamation, they took this back, so
Speaker 1: it created significant trust issues with the descendants of people
Speaker 1: living there. What in your in your obviously knowed learned
Speaker 1: over your growing up there and your family being their opinion,
Speaker 1: what do you how do you think that most western
Speaker 1: North Carolina, especially legacy property owners like that view anything
Speaker 1: with the Feds based on that and several other things
Speaker 1: that have happened over the years. There's no trust there none.
Speaker 3: As far as this trust of the government goes. You're
Speaker 3: not going to find a place where that's more deeply
Speaker 3: entrenched than Appalascia. Right. I mean my family what you
Speaker 3: were talking about with the forest, My family roots are
Speaker 3: very deeply embedded in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park.
Speaker 3: Ask us how they got that, how they get how
Speaker 3: they get that? Right?
Speaker 1: You remember, you get to go there for free forever
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 3: Oh, you're supposed to, but now there's parking fees.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so weird. Which is an actual which is a
Speaker 1: which is a promise that was made on the record
Speaker 1: to Cassie's family and others that they would never have
Speaker 1: to pay to access what used to be theirs that's correct.
Speaker 3: Just like the roads. Nowhere was a promise that we
Speaker 3: would have a road back to our family burial plots.
Speaker 3: That's they never completed that. Now there's wild pigs roawning
Speaker 3: around and they root up our burial spots and they
Speaker 3: won't allow us to put senses up.
Speaker 1: We had a guy calling in the last hour as
Speaker 1: a National Guardsman who said that when they went to
Speaker 1: respond to an emergency in South Carolina a few years ago,
Speaker 1: they are trained engineers. They're trained to literally run all
Speaker 1: the chainsaws. The FED stopped him because he wasn't for
Speaker 1: certified for chainsaw use. This is a guy in uniform
Speaker 1: whose mos is to run chainsaws. So yeah, it's it's wacky.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. We can sit here and we
Speaker 1: grouse about this all we want. If these folks would
Speaker 1: just move out of the way, there's a solution for
Speaker 1: these trailers. It may not be a solution for everyone.
Speaker 1: But here's what I'm terrified about, Cassie. I've camped in
Speaker 1: the winter. The amount of preparation and things that you
Speaker 1: need and how careful you have to be cannot be over.
Speaker 1: I can't say it enough times. And whether it is
Speaker 1: things that you just you strictly don't consume alcohol in
Speaker 1: those situations give you a false sense of warmth. And
Speaker 1: the amount of people who have killed themselves with propane
Speaker 1: heaters or other heating elements. I am terrified that somebody
Speaker 1: in North Carolina is going to die winter camping, whether
Speaker 1: it's from long range pneumonia that catch their tent on fire,
Speaker 1: the wind, the damn near Blue House is over. Just
Speaker 1: going through the triangle yesterday cuts through you. This is
Speaker 1: we're getting into emergency range. When they're forecasting two inches
Speaker 1: of snow. People got to be freaking out up there.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure. I mean, I have talked to several people,
Speaker 3: and I do want to correct the record on something
Speaker 3: yesterday in my video, I said that there were tent
Speaker 3: cities in Swanna. Noah. I've spoken to about four people
Speaker 3: who have confirmed that those are volunteer tents. So there's
Speaker 3: not actually people who are living in those particular tents.
Speaker 1: Yea for the one video, but the video that the
Speaker 1: dude did or the one where it's just kind of
Speaker 1: where they've spin around, because there's two different videos out there.
Speaker 3: Well, the one that I did yesterday, I said that
Speaker 3: there are two tent cities in Suanaoa. Those tent cities
Speaker 3: are actually full of volunteers. Now, does that mean that
Speaker 3: there aren't people living in tents?
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 3: I actually spoke to someone, a preacher's wife last night
Speaker 3: who told me several areas where there are still people
Speaker 3: living in tents. I'm going to try to confirm that.
Speaker 3: But I also spoke to Sean Hendrix who let me
Speaker 3: vote that there are people living in RVs that he
Speaker 3: has actually resupplied who don't have electricity. Sure, so you're
Speaker 3: still talking about the same thing. You're talking about people
Speaker 3: not having No.
Speaker 1: No, no, that's one hundred percent there. And yeah, the
Speaker 1: other video, I think they only identified four tenths rather
Speaker 1: than tense cities. So I don't know. I'd be curious
Speaker 1: to hear that though. But you're right, the amount of
Speaker 1: people without power, that's confirmable because they report this. We
Speaker 1: got an email earlier from a guy who's alignment said
Speaker 1: that they constructed a city that literally houses, you know,
Speaker 1: thousands of people, which are just all the linemen working up.
Speaker 1: They're complete with cafeteria, lodging, shower facilities, entertainment facilities. It's
Speaker 1: a city. They built a city in a weekend up there,
Speaker 1: and they did it because they're a private company, and
Speaker 1: so I think that's where most people's frustration lies. Also,
Speaker 1: they're seeing things like this woman who thankfully was relieved
Speaker 1: of her duties yesterday, who was in charge of the
Speaker 1: Hurricane Matthew relief, which is we know simply hasn't arrived
Speaker 1: for many people yet. And so if you're sitting in
Speaker 1: the mountains watching that and you're thinking when was Matthew? Now,
Speaker 1: you're extra terrified in your RV without energy or whatever
Speaker 1: it may be.
Speaker 3: ID said, I celebrated last night when I found out
Speaker 3: that she had been relieved of her duties. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3: I sat down until about three shots and unshine and
Speaker 3: celebrated because not only do I have roots in western
Speaker 3: North Carolina, I have roots in eastern North Carolina too,
Speaker 3: And so you know, no matter where you're at in
Speaker 3: the state, whatever is going on is impacting me and
Speaker 3: my family in some way. And that was vile when
Speaker 3: that came out that there are still people without homes
Speaker 3: who were impacted by Matthew and Florence.
Speaker 1: What do you make of the hearings, the FEMA hearings,
Speaker 1: because do we had a second whistleblower or so to speak.
Speaker 1: And if you guys didn't catch that. So you know
Speaker 1: the woman right who was fired, and she came on
Speaker 1: and said, no, this is kind of the atmosphere there
Speaker 1: at standard operating procedure. The second one came from a contractor,
Speaker 1: a FEMA contractor who, in a conversation with an elderly
Speaker 1: disabled veteran in Georgia, told Comer, the chair of the committee,
Speaker 1: that he recommended to this guy who was wondering where
Speaker 1: the help is to remove all Trump signage from his property.
Speaker 1: So there's a couple things that make you go, what
Speaker 1: the heck's going on here? Not that our governor or
Speaker 1: soon to be governor care, but do you think at
Speaker 1: the federal level they accomplish anything with that hearing, because
Speaker 1: now it just sounds like they're going to have they're
Speaker 1: going to have an investigation with a blue ribbon panel,
Speaker 1: and that doesn't put that in one hand, and you
Speaker 1: know what in the other, And you know which one
Speaker 1: fills up faster.
Speaker 3: Well, anyone who knows me and knows me well knows
Speaker 3: that I have zero trust in the government at all.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's part of my heritage, right, like I
Speaker 3: have left, right, That's all the same to me. And
Speaker 3: so did they accomplish anything? Did they ever know? You know,
Speaker 3: all they did was ask a couple of questions and
Speaker 3: that's it. FEMA is going to continue to do what
Speaker 3: they've always done, and we're just going to continue to
Speaker 3: think money into them and people will continue to wait
Speaker 3: for years on end, and trailers will sit somewhere and
Speaker 3: rot like they always have. I mean, whatever changes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you, this is nothing changes. So
Speaker 1: let me let me ask you what do you think?
Speaker 1: What do you think? Is there an individual or maybe
Speaker 1: I don't want you throwing names up. Is there something
Speaker 1: that is a big hold up that you think is
Speaker 1: seemingly easy to solve or is it just the totality
Speaker 1: of the bureaucracy, Like, because I want to get stuff solved,
Speaker 1: so like this is and most people do. So is
Speaker 1: there one or two things that if people really put
Speaker 1: pressure on you think that would make things better there?
Speaker 1: From what you're observing.
Speaker 3: I think that this is going to take the people
Speaker 3: raising king honestly, I mean I've seen that. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm not a political pundit. I talk about culture, right,
Speaker 3: And this storm came and all of a sudden, my
Speaker 3: whole direction changed just because I want to deal with
Speaker 3: this particular topic right, and all of a sudden, I
Speaker 3: have politicians calling me and in my DMS all the time,
Speaker 3: like wanting to discuss, to discuss what we can do
Speaker 3: to make things better. Well, the honest answer to that
Speaker 3: is is obviously get rid of the red tape. You know,
Speaker 3: we just found out that trailers aren't being placed on
Speaker 3: people's property because they're in a floodplane. What kind of
Speaker 3: sense does that make when this was a storm that
Speaker 3: only occurs what once every hundred years, once every five
Speaker 3: hundred years.
Speaker 1: It was more than that, even I think it was
Speaker 1: even I think it were in the thousands. But to
Speaker 1: your point, it's taken. Yeah, and they're temporary trailers. They're temporary, right,
Speaker 1: And I remember they staged an entire city of them
Speaker 1: directly outside the city of New Orleans, which correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. That's in a floodplane, right, because it's
Speaker 1: under sea level.
Speaker 3: Exactly. So they can do whatever they want, and they
Speaker 3: have proved it over and over again. So if they
Speaker 3: can do whatever they want, why can't they actually help
Speaker 3: the people and make a difference.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you one last topic. This is one
Speaker 1: that gets batted around and people go, it's fake news,
Speaker 1: it's not. But I've seen too many videos of this now,
Speaker 1: so I'm curious what you think people who are fearful
Speaker 1: that the state will come in and take their kids
Speaker 1: because they're a they're in essentially not a legal living
Speaker 1: situation due to no fault of their own. But you know,
Speaker 1: if they got the kids living in something without power, feasibly,
Speaker 1: DHS will come in and do some about it. So
Speaker 1: are people worried or are is there tangible evidence that
Speaker 1: that is something that could occur even though they're screaming
Speaker 1: for help. The breaking up of families, what is I'm
Speaker 1: sure you've gotten many of these videos, forward it to you.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 3: Absolutely so, I'm not the biggest fan of DFS, particularly
Speaker 3: in western North Carolina. What I will say is that
Speaker 3: I don't think that they're just going in and taking
Speaker 3: children really nilly. What's happening is is a lot of
Speaker 3: these people already have cases against them. Then Helene came,
Speaker 3: and when Helene came it it caused DSS to have
Speaker 3: a reason to go in and take those kids. So, yes,
Speaker 3: there have been instances but those particular instances ended up
Speaker 3: being where there was already a case open. Could that
Speaker 3: progress from here? I don't put anything. You know, absolutely
Speaker 3: I think that it could happen. Will it I don't know.
Speaker 3: Only time will tell.
Speaker 1: But interesting Engel, actually can I you don't have to
Speaker 1: name names, have democrat? I know, I know you don't
Speaker 1: want to drug into this. But unfortunately, as soon as
Speaker 1: you started talking about it, every leftist weirdo on the
Speaker 1: internet started to attacking you. I see what's in your
Speaker 1: post there. So the politicians who are calling you, I
Speaker 1: want to know, and I hope the answer is yes.
Speaker 1: Are they on both sides of the aisle? Right? That's
Speaker 1: the only way this gets done?
Speaker 3: No, they're not. And that really upsets me because, to
Speaker 3: be quite frank, I'm not a like I said, I'm
Speaker 3: not a political pundit. I'm not one of these people
Speaker 3: out here who are bashing one side or the other.
Speaker 3: I try to be fairly equal. And the way that
Speaker 3: I treat this way, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, on both of them. That's how they that's
Speaker 1: the fairest way.
Speaker 3: So right, And so it gives me the feeling that
Speaker 3: there's only one side who actually cares about what's happening,
Speaker 3: and that's not a good look for the Democrats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I saw somebody comment they go, well, the
Speaker 1: only reason the Republicans are doing it is because political reasons.
Speaker 1: I'm like, do you think that the person with no
Speaker 1: electricity and they're a trailer that the Hendricks folks have
Speaker 1: been nice enough for do you think you have a
Speaker 1: crap why somebody wants to come up there and help them?
Speaker 1: I don't think they do, right, And.
Speaker 3: Let's not forget that Asphole is a solid blue city,
Speaker 3: you know, and y'all don't care about then those are
Speaker 3: people who vote for you, and so for no one
Speaker 3: at all to have reached out from the Democrat Party
Speaker 3: is really disappointing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, look, I know some of them
Speaker 1: listen because they steal little snippets and then bark about
Speaker 1: it on Twitter. So hopefully they heard this part. We'll see, Cassie,
Speaker 1: I got a role. It's at Dogwood Blooms. Your Twitter handle,
Speaker 1: Folks should follow you. Lots lots of interesting stuff posted there.
Speaker 1: We appreciate it this point.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Kasey.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. Cassie Clark here on the
Speaker 1: Cacoday Radio program so just a barrage of different topics,
Speaker 1: all important ones though, and we'll be right back