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Speaker 2: Hunter. I'm telling you what, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Very amazed by what you're doing here because, you know,

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when I think that's one of the survival skills is

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one of the weakest things that we've got in this

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modern day generation. And I don't want to blame it

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on my mom and dad for being so tough, and

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we all just want to lighten up. But what's going

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on here that it's like we need someone like you

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in order to get us back in gear.

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Speaker 3: Dude, someone like me.

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Speaker 4: I don't know about that, but I'm really grateful to

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be a part of this film.

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Speaker 3: I think it's really important.

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Speaker 1: Well to be in Utah. You're showcasing a side of

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Utah that blows me away because I'm from Montana originally

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and Utah is nowhere near being Montana.

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Speaker 2: But the beauty is stunning.

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Speaker 3: It is stunning. Yeah, that was the thing about this film.

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Speaker 4: You know, our director and writer Spencer King talked a

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lot about this, trying to you know, we have this

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beautiful landscape and then in this film it's almost like

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its own character. It's like being in a prison without

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walls and you look around and it's you know.

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Speaker 3: Breath takingly beautiful.

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Speaker 4: But when you're trapped out there, it takes on a

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whole different sort of you know, personality.

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Speaker 3: Really, when you.

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Speaker 1: Use a word like trapped, I just know how I

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react when things get a little skimpy for me, and

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it's like, what was that feeling like and how did

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you keep your emotions under control.

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Speaker 4: It was a lot of checking in with Spencer about

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you know, his real life experience and doing research about

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you know, other kids are sitting out there. I guess

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I should say that this film starts off with my

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character Ed being ripped out of bed in the middle

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of the night, blindfolded and driven out to the desert.

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And once he's there, he realizes he's been sent to

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a wilderness therapy program and that's just one type of

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program that kind of falls under the troubled.

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Speaker 3: Teen industry, and yeah, he really is just stuck out there.

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Speaker 4: But you know, that's one of the one of the

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first like beats of the film once he's out there

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is him trying to run away and quickly realizing that

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it's kind of futile, like there's there is nowhere to

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go if you're out in the middle of the desert there.

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Speaker 1: But see that that's what I This goes all the

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way back to the original thing when I was saying

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that we need someone like you, because I mean, I

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realized what happens in the movie and that it is

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a movie. But the thing is is that it's still

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living vicariously through you and your survival in it teaches

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people how to become strong in their own journeys, even

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if it's just to happen. Oh I'm having a crappy

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day at work today. Well, you know what what did

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Hunter do in this? What did he do in order

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to survive?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? It really gets inside the mindset.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know it's tricky because some of these

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skills that you would learn out there are definitely useful

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and this could be, you know, a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 3: But you know, when you're dealing.

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Speaker 4: With and you know, these real life camps, when you're

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dealing with kids for a private organization, that's for profit.

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It just lends itself to sometimes people taking advantage of

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that power. And I think, you know, it really becomes

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a story of the friendship of the other kids there.

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Speaker 3: That's how he kind of survives and gets through.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because, yeah, that relationship that you've got to have

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with other people. It's not we're not in the business

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of me anymore. We've got to start teaming up together.

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is like, Okay, if we don't team up, we're going

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to crash. And I don't want to be that guy

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that's going to get accused of being, you know, the

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crash maker, and so and so. I mean that's the

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subliminal message of sorts that runs, you know, very strong through.

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Speaker 3: This absolutely and.

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Speaker 4: The connections that some of these kids make is really

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powerful and beautiful. And you know, one of the details

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kind of broke my heart was that they would try

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to stay in touch with each other and one of

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them was going to leave one of these camps and

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like write down each other's phone numbers or names or something.

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rip the pages from their notebook and didn't want these

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people to have that sort of community. And you learn

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why in this film that specifically at this camp, they

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didn't want these survivors talking to each other.

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Speaker 1: Who That would blow me away because I'm one of

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those I'm a community driven person. So I mean, I've

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got to have my people stuff and so, like, you know,

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upside down is when you guys had that don't talk

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athon where you can't speak to each other. I'm a

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radio guy. I gotta talk, man, I gotta let it out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I'm the same way.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine what would you do in order to

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create that conversation? Would you pick up a writing instrument

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and develop a relationship with that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know a lot of these survivors have

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done that and found built this beautiful community online.

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Speaker 4: Partnered with this great organization Unsilenced, and they're doing such

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good work with advocacy and connecting survivors and letting them

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tell their stories and you know, trying to create change

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and just bring awareness about this as well.

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Speaker 1: How is it that you're able to step into these

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roles that you do and we are so drawn into

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the character. I mean, I mean, what does it take

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maybe maybe twenty two seconds or so for me to say, oh,

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I know who this is and then all of a

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sudden it's like it doesn't matter because I'm getting into

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his character. I now know who he is because this

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is who he's playing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I've been really lucky just to work with some amazing

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creatives and like the writers. I mean, Spencer's story is

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so great, and you know, any of these projects I've

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gotten to do that I feel like, really draw you in.

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Whether it's The Wilderness or Wednesday or your Honor, it

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all comes, like, you know, starts at that script level.

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And that's something that really draws me in. Something that

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has like just an undeniable story from the get go,

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which I think this movie has.

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Speaker 1: With modern day acting, do you look at it as

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being I'm going to envision this role or is this

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going to be a mind over matter? In other words,

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it's like you you know what the party is and

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who is it? What's her name? How long has she

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been around? How many kids does she have? I mean

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is that. That's what I mean by you know, going

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through the matt you know, the motions of Okay, this

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is who I have to portray in this or is

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it something you envision and become.

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Speaker 3: Uh No, It's kind of about for me.

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Speaker 4: Figuring out the backstory and really where they are emotionally.

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Speaker 3: And you know, when you kind of learn about.

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Speaker 4: My characters that he's struggling with addiction and that kind

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of stem from a really messed up relationship he had

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with his father, who we find out in the film

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has died, and so understanding that you know, this is

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like a kid coming with that backstory in mind.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, in this film.

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Speaker 4: We get to see some of the story played out

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in flashbacks that really just informed so much of it

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Speaker 1: You know what's so odd Hunter is the fact that

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you know, we keep talking about kids or young adults,

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and nowhere in this movie do I feel that I

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feel like that that you're I guess maybe it's that

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you know that you're doing adult things. It's the adult stress.

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at all, which is the reason why this movie is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, I mean they are really kind of forced

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to be in this situation that, like you said, like

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you wouldn't expect a kid to have to be out,

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and he wouldn't want to see a kid out, and.

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Speaker 1: So no, no, no, what I think one of the

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toughest things would be that you had no cond world.

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I mean, you're talking about having an addiction and you

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can't have contact with anybody in the outside world. That's

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enough to turn your your senses crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so my coach starts to go through withdrawal as

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soon as he's out there, and there's yeah, no contacts

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with your parents or anyone. As soon as you're out there,

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you are totally reliant on the counselors and then the

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other kids in these camps.

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Speaker 1: Now creating with Aaron Paula, that's one of those things

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where I would be walking up there with a yellow

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chaplain just endlessly taking notes. Were you something like that

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in the way of let's like, okay, just input, input,

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let me know what you know so that we can grow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I'm such a huge Aaron paul fan, you know, a

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huge breaking Bat fan. I got to work with Brian

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really closely on that Show Your Honor, And then when

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Speaker 3: And you know, he says, such, he's really good taste.

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Speaker 4: And so that was you know, trying to you know,

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mind that and pick up on learn as much as

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Speaker 2: You know, do you know how powerful your role was

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with your honor?

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Speaker 1: I mean seriously, I mean, because your presence on that

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show is really it because instantly, I mean, it doesn't

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of compassion or empathy for that character, because because we

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see it, it's laid out, it's not a mystery.

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Speaker 2: Now go for it.

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Speaker 1: And then and then Brian comes into the picture and

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together here. So I mean that that was so heavy,

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Speaker 4: So heavy, I mean, I just loved being part of

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the center of it, just what would you do to

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protect your kid? And I think that's why it really

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struck a nerve with people. I think, you know a

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lot of just you know, everyday people were just like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with actor Hunter Duhon

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coming up next the name of the movie The Wilderness.

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We are back with actor Hunter Douhon. So during this

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movie The Wilderness, my question would be that one of

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the things that always captivates my attention is the pacing

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of the acting. In other words, don't race through it.

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be talking so quickly today that a movie like this,

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it's like, thank God, you're really giving me enough space

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to hear what you're saying, react to what you're saying,

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and then get deeper into the storyline. So how important

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Speaker 3: Really important?

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Speaker 4: Especially because you know, when my character first gets out there,

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in the moment is to just not give in and

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not you know, these kind of like bs conversations they're

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Speaker 3: Have with me. So my character goes totally silent for the.

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my character the flashbacks and so you know, there was

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a lot of story to be told with no words

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at all, and you can see that through like him

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taking action, like he tries to run away as soon

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as he's out there and realizes that there's no hope

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in that because he's truly you know, in the middle

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of nowhere. And yeah, so it's really about having a

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complete understanding of you know, every single thought racing through

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my character Ed's mind.

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Speaker 1: Well, one of the things that you've mastered, and you

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definitely do it inside the Wilderness, is that your facial

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expressions and your body language, you allow those to be

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a part of acting. It's not just you know, a

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pitch volume in tone with your vocal cords. I mean,

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you bring your entire self into it. Is that tough

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 4: First of all? Yeah, I mean it definitely is harder

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to tell a story when you don't have just you know,

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the line telling you exactly what's going on. But that's

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why I love movies like this, you know, just like

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in a real, true, like indie film that respects the

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audience and knows that the audience is smart and can

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keep up and can fill in the gaps and just

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you know, let it, you know, let it visually wash

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over them and you can see everything that's going on.

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Speaker 1: So why doesn't it feel like an indie film? I mean,

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did you guys take your time? Because usually it's like

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get it in, get it out, let's move on, and

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and and it's like it's like okay, So but I

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don't I don't get that vibe at all that it's

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an indie film.

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Speaker 2: I was kind of shocked.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thanks, I think it was.

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Speaker 4: You know, I was surrounded by amazing actors around me,

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like Lamar Johnson plays the other main guy in the film,

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and you know, we were together on your Honor and

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he was in the Last of Us, and then you know,

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so many other actors, Aaron Holliday, Sam Dieger, all so good.

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Speaker 3: In this film.

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Speaker 4: And then I think being out in Utah and having

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this amazing landscape and it's like we didn't have to

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rely on you know, CGI or any like big budget

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things like that. We were using the like natural beauty

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and isolation of the real world out there.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: So now, with everything that you've learned and brought to

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entertainment and in films and things, I mean, when you

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step into Utah, does your creative eye start looking at

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the lay of the land to make sure that the

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continuity director got it right. Because I mean, when you

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because there are so many different areas where you could

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have made a shot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, our director and cinematographer did such a good job

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of mapping the story out, and there's so many different

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types of landscapes like you're talking about, and they kind

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of mapped out all of these locations that you know,

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we went from the red dirt to the white rock

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to the forest to the grasslands by the end of

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the film, and I think it and gave it a

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nice visual arc and it helps, you know, not be

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mundane and but also kind of shows you, just, like

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quite how much terrain that these kids are being forced

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to cover every day too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean we were naturally thinking, you know,

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when it comes to wilderness, you know, the mountains or

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or someplace that's going to be on the edge, you know,

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you know, going into canyons and stuff. But you never

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think of what's going on in Utah. So, like you said,

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the terrain is different. I mean, I can't imagine you know,

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what the challenges were and did you get out there

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and hike in order to get you know, to make

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sure that you got the breathing down of all things.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we were carrying those backpacks that kind of

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doesn't naturally. But then we did one night out camping

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trip with all the boys that are in the camp

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in the movie and our director and this kind of

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wilderness expert, and he like, we slept out under this

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cave and hiked down into this huge ravine and he

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showed us how to make a fire, like because in

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this film, one of the things you see is that

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these kids are like not even allowed to eat a

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hot meal unless they can make the fire themselves. And

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so we had to learn how to do that with

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a spindle and everything, which is just insane.

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Speaker 1: But you but I got to tell you something, though, Hunter.

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I mean, I'm out here in the wilderness right now

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in Carolina on a rainy day that's going to be

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twenty six tonight. I still don't know how to start

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a fire. So I mean it's like I've got a

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dura logue that's waiting for me. Okay, I mean that's

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how I start a fire.

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Speaker 3: No, trust me, I got a match in a gas fireplace.

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How I sort of.

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Speaker 1: So, now, what did you personally learn from this? Because

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when you throw yourself into a role like this, you

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are a student and there's no way that you didn't

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walk out of here saying it's just a job.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not a job.

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Speaker 3: No, Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: I learned so much because I also got to produce

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this film and so getting on to be a part

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of something from you know, script through the final edit.

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I mean, I learned just so much about storytelling and acting,

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and you know I learned also none of it's personal.

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I was there in the editing room when they had

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to cut some of my stuff out and they're like, oh, okay,

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actually this is just to serve the story, whereas I've

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definitely been an actor waiting to see a scene and

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it just doesn't play on the TV show and you're like, oh,

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I wonder what I did wrong there?

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Speaker 1: So now how do you deal with that situation? Because

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as a producer erro, the guy that's doing the conversation

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is not the same guy who's gonna do all the editing.

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to have a total disconnection before I go in there

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and edit what do you do.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, by the time when we got in the edit,

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it felt, you know, I felt some distance from it,

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and it did just become a thing of trying to

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be as objective as possible and watching two versions and going, oh,

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that makes more sense, or we don't need that line,

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or you know, this scene we already we already see

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that emotion playing out in the scene before.

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Speaker 3: We don't need to repeat that that kind of thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you got to get over any sort of

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vanity of watching yourself back.

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Speaker 1: Well, listeners need to understand how close to the community

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that you really are, because when it comes to Als,

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your foot is in that circle one hundred percent. And

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I can't thank you enough for being that person that

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is still you know, you know, put it out there

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for us in this age where there's so much content.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do feel passionate about that.

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Speaker 4: I lost my dad to ALS a few years ago,

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and so I definitely am passionate about that. And you know,

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not that that necessarily is tied into the film, but

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you know, that was something Spencer and I connected on

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early on, as we both lost our dads at an

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early age, and my character in the Wilderness has lost

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his dad, and so that was you know, my kind

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of like away in emotionally, and I never dealt with a.

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Speaker 3: Character that it was, so, you know, dealing with.

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Speaker 4: That so specifically, I found that really like healing, to

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be honest, just to talk about it. I think, you know,

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you lose people and it suddenly becomes uncomfortable to talk about,

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but getting to talk about people that you love and

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live lost is nice.

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Speaker 1: Well see, and we don't do enough of that talking

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because I lost my father at sixteen and so when

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people say, so, so what are you doing now and

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as an adult, what did your father have something? No,

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and you feel so guilty. It's like, I don't have

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any answers for you. You know, he was young, So

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where it's like, I mean, you're you're now in an

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adult shoes and you're growing forward.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, it's I think it's I mean,

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like you said, it's just I'm.

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Speaker 3: Trying to, even in my personal life, shake off that.

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Speaker 4: Oh I don't want to make someone uncomfortable by bringing

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this up, but.

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Speaker 3: It's nice to just talk about it and remember him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly due this movie I'm telling you people

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are going to see it because they want that escape.

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Speaker 2: But more importantly, it is real.

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Speaker 1: Utah and CBS Sunday Morning just did a big thing

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on AI technology, and man, I'm telling you you are

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not going to be featured on that episode because you

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are so authentic with this movie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no AI in this film.

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Speaker 4: This is we're truly out in the desert for four weeks.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just unpredictable out there. I'll tell you.

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Speaker 4: Our first day of shooting is we got this monsoon

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that came out of nowhere. All of our trucks got

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stuck in the red mud. We had to shut down

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the next day, and you know, we're out there.

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Speaker 3: We only got four weeks. Indie film, you lose a

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day of shooting.

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Speaker 4: All of us were stressed, and then you know, we

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just got back up and really learned to be resilient.

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Speaker 3: And I got to shout out our crew.

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Speaker 4: They were absolutely amazing on this movie and really got

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us through it.

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Speaker 1: Well, dude, you got to come back to this show

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any time in the future, because man, you're you're just

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getting started when it comes to all this acting. I mean,

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it's just amazing to watch you how you're popping out

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of that seed to become a flower.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much er. That means a lot.

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Speaker 4: I feel really really lucky to be able to get

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to do this.

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Speaker 2: Excellent. Will you be brilliant today?

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Speaker 3: Okay, sir, you too, Thank you. Thank you looking the rain, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right, and keep it down by you? No, thank you, Bi,

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thank you