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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Iron the Ball here

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<v Speaker 2>on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Dave Silver.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to I am Dave Silver. Good to be back. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>good good. And then we have Kobe taking over controls,

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<v Speaker 2>so wish just luck. I'm the new guy teaching him

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<v Speaker 2>how to do it, so he'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 3>He'll be fine. Hey, welcome David.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's great to be I know that Kobe's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of stuff for breaking news, but the

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<v Speaker 2>hits continue to happen for Arizona football. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>you saw another guy or two have decided to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that total is at least eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness. Okay, you have the name mister Ukulele

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<v Speaker 3>or one of those guys. Yes, you fine? You something?

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<v Speaker 3>You know it's a guy who played Okay, the guy

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<v Speaker 3>who played Tayata Ugulele. I believe defensive linemen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there's a couple in the last since yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>since we did the show, so I think it could

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<v Speaker 2>be eighteen or more. I'm anticipating some more as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought originally it could be about, you know, fifteen sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's it's beyond that, which you know, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know this when I said this a few months ago,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe just as recently as a month ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>you probably on the show when we talked about it,

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<v Speaker 2>that there was some disconnect between the coach and the

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<v Speaker 2>players and transfers happened right that this situation the portal happens,

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<v Speaker 2>but key guys are leaving. So I still believe what

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<v Speaker 2>I was saying earlier is was it factually correct where

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<v Speaker 2>there was a disconnect between the players and the coach

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<v Speaker 2>and they just didn't get him or vice versa.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because this doesn't just happen by accident, right, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Jacob Monoho was a guy. That's I think

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of surprise. I mean, I understand the team

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<v Speaker 4>as gonna leave, and Fafita has not left, Burnett left,

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<v Speaker 4>so I mean that whole little surf I connection seems

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<v Speaker 4>to be breaking up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully Noah will stay.

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<v Speaker 4>But you're right, you just don't know what these guys

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<v Speaker 4>are thinking sometimes they're young, they're getting advice from everybody else,

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<v Speaker 4>and sometimes it doesn't make sense. Sometimes it does. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>the coaches are like, okay, just go, We've got other

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<v Speaker 4>people in mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Things like that. So I mean the numbers will be

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<v Speaker 3>they'll be replaced.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they'll be replaced, but with the talent, because we

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<v Speaker 2>know what the talent was. Yeah, when they had talent.

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<v Speaker 2>They're paid for the coach, right, And I'm sure you've

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<v Speaker 2>been well you're in a different spot, and I bring

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<v Speaker 2>your your work experience and my work experience into this

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<v Speaker 2>where you you were your boss, you were your boss

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<v Speaker 2>kind of you had a news director. But I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>there was a time where two, God, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to go to work because I don't want to work

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<v Speaker 2>for the boss that day, right, right, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>You just don't know if the boss understands what you do.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's probably the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing in football exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>Some of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Coaches are you know, they're supposed to be specific to

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<v Speaker 4>certain positions and things like that, so they should know

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<v Speaker 4>what each player is doing. But if the players field

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<v Speaker 4>there's a disconnect, you know, where do you go?

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<v Speaker 3>You think elsewhere?

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose and how happy are you when you go

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<v Speaker 2>to work because you when you're not either getting patted

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<v Speaker 2>on the back, you're not beating couraged. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of different things. Yeah, and I say that just from

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<v Speaker 2>my experience of covering teams where you could tell, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know I could tell because if they had talent,

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<v Speaker 2>would you.

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<v Speaker 3>Say that they had talent? Yeah? How is that.

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<v Speaker 2>Talent getting beat by three four touchdowns a game? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't happen unless you just don't give.

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<v Speaker 4>A crap and then they can win a game like

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<v Speaker 4>Utah early in the season or Houston later in the season,

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<v Speaker 4>where you know, just blow a team away and they

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<v Speaker 4>look great. In the next week they give up, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>fifty points.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, who knows. We're not close enough to the

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<v Speaker 4>to the specifics on some of that stuff. But you'd

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<v Speaker 4>think that there would be some connection.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why Arizona likes it. They want to keep

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<v Speaker 2>you at a distance so you don't know. Well, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to come out and tell us hey, you know, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>but but but if people were there, but like back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day, you know, and maybe Havier when he

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<v Speaker 2>covered the team, we were there every day. We knew

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the ins and outs, and lut allowed it

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<v Speaker 2>until he probably got uncomfortable with it and started shutting

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<v Speaker 2>things down. But because we were there all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh what happened here? You know, there was a situation here,

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<v Speaker 2>they got tired of answering it. And since I want

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<v Speaker 2>to say, Greg, were you around when Greg came.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, at the very beginning, yes, at the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so he kind of started making it more corporate

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<v Speaker 2>and it was less less gym live and goodish for

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a good old boy stuff, and it became

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<v Speaker 2>more corporate and and shut stuff up, shut stuff out.

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<v Speaker 2>Sean Miller did the same thing, and he enjoyed it

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<v Speaker 2>because he didn't really like talking to the locals. And

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<v Speaker 2>the funny thing about it with Sean is the locals

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<v Speaker 2>didn't screw him.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the Nationals screw exactly right. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you play with the devil, you get by the devil.

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<v Speaker 4>So whereas Luke's had a pretty good group of guys

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<v Speaker 4>like you, I mean, you were pretty positive there was Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>there was no no reason to really go after it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was a very rare that we'd have

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<v Speaker 2>to it. Very should I'll give you initition. In middle

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<v Speaker 2>Joseph Blair got academically ineligible, maybe a calid Reefs thing

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<v Speaker 2>or two, but it was not very at least known,

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<v Speaker 2>and we had to do the stories. You you were

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<v Speaker 2>there too, uh And and like you said, one day

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<v Speaker 2>he called you out of the losers.

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<v Speaker 4>Jave, what do you got going exactly? So you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and you answered it. You answered the call because like,

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<v Speaker 4>why has Ludelsen calling me at home?

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<v Speaker 3>But it did? It did happen once or twice?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and with me too, me too, And I call

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<v Speaker 2>him in early in the morning, and and and Bobby

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<v Speaker 2>would answer this, this is Steve.

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<v Speaker 3>What does you need for me?

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<v Speaker 6>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's our business, it is, and it's we

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<v Speaker 4>need to expect that to happen sometimes. And not everybody

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<v Speaker 4>you write about is going to be happy with what

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<v Speaker 4>you've written. That happens all the time everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>So invariably for me, David and I would write maybe

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<v Speaker 2>ninety eight positive stories.

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<v Speaker 3>The two that I wrote.

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<v Speaker 4>They were negative I heard about, of course, I heard

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<v Speaker 4>about of course, the same with us. I mean if

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<v Speaker 4>I would say something very rarely controversial, I would get

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<v Speaker 4>a phone call from whoever I was talking about and

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<v Speaker 4>it didn't happen that often, but it you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, it's part of the job. And I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 3>remember those.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I just steak thinking about them right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it is what it is, right, It's part

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<v Speaker 2>of the business. Uh, And we're not there. I think

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<v Speaker 2>more now and more, no more nowadays that the media

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<v Speaker 2>is not so much in bed, but it's also in

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<v Speaker 2>like because because they just want them to do well. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll say I'll say the situation up in Phoenix,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of positivity going on in Phoenix with

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<v Speaker 2>the with the football team issue football team that hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>happened in a while. There's some journalists that are raw

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<v Speaker 2>raw raw raw ra ra sun devils. Yeah, it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of odd because it's a big market. That doesn't usually

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<v Speaker 2>happen in a big market. The people working up there

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<v Speaker 2>are pros, they've been there for a while, but certain

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<v Speaker 2>some are just kind of like.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, yay, well it's been it's been a down time

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<v Speaker 4>for a issue in a lot of sports. So maybe

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Again, it just depends on how they

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<v Speaker 4>want to approach their jobs. Sometimes they're gonna, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>kind of sit back be kind of neutral, and others

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<v Speaker 4>are like, hey, and I can't believe we got a

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<v Speaker 4>team that's going to college football playoffs. You know, why

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<v Speaker 4>don't we celebrate this? And I think the readers want

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<v Speaker 4>to hear that. Yeah, and I go to when good

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<v Speaker 4>things happen, I will go to see what you've written.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, rather than oh, gosh, I just lost by

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<v Speaker 4>forty Do I really care what Steve?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you you're noting Rolle because every time

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<v Speaker 2>they do well and I write, I get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people who likes and likes and likes, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of how you kind of gauge your story. They lose,

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<v Speaker 2>no one hell gives a crap what I write.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean sometimes there were there'd be such devastating games.

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<v Speaker 4>I just didn't even open the computer. I just didn't

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<v Speaker 4>even want to see. Let's go do something else today

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<v Speaker 4>and not you know, read rehashes of a terrible performance.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the funny thing about it is that I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>you back in the day when you read when they

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<v Speaker 2>would lose, you know, and I could give it, I

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<v Speaker 2>was indifferent. And nowadays, because I'm more of a calumnist

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<v Speaker 2>than than I'm a observer and I write, that's some

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<v Speaker 2>of my best stuff because I can read a little starky. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, even when Corky and I were out on

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<v Speaker 2>the road with the team, some of Quirky's best stuff

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<v Speaker 2>was he was pissed. When he was he would get

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<v Speaker 2>very snarky. And I said, Kirky, that's fantastic because he

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<v Speaker 2>was a fan. I mean, that's that's well known, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was kind of pulling for them, and so we

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<v Speaker 2>know he'd be flowery.

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<v Speaker 3>But when they lost, holy crap.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah we were. You know, we were kind of that

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<v Speaker 4>way too. I think we tended to become a little more.

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<v Speaker 3>Flowery.

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<v Speaker 4>No, like when things are going bad, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I just can't believe I sat through that game kind

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<v Speaker 4>of feeling, and you can you can sort of project

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<v Speaker 4>that on the air, just how you feel how you

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<v Speaker 4>felt that game went, without you know, really getting.

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<v Speaker 3>Into the specifics.

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<v Speaker 4>So sometimes, you know, you'll notice that with some media

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<v Speaker 4>personalities too.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, of course Saturday, I was snarky in a weird

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<v Speaker 2>way because they played, uh would they play Southern Utah?

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<v Speaker 3>Southern Utah?

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<v Speaker 2>And it was like the guys on Press row and

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<v Speaker 2>and Jay and those guys doing the stats something. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't get these two hours back because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we sat through that game and what did you learn

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<v Speaker 2>from that over in the first half? Yeah, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you learn from that? And what does Tommy learn from

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, he he's what they said after

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<v Speaker 4>a game like that. But you know, we'll see it

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<v Speaker 4>with UCLA. It's going to be a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 2>The rotation will be totally different because it'll it'll you

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<v Speaker 2>you'll go, He'll go with his top seven or.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight and who he trusts.

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<v Speaker 2>He might he might trust Martinez a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>More of the point guard. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that Jim Bradley is is a scoring guy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like Jason Terry was in ninety nine when he

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I kind of was not paying his close attention,

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<v Speaker 4>but when Martinez came in, was he dishing the ball?

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<v Speaker 3>They point guards he can fire it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he's dish first, shoot later, and he shot a

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<v Speaker 2>few few shots. But it's more of a I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>run the off fit type of thing, which this team needs,

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<v Speaker 4>The scores and you know if the big guys need

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<v Speaker 4>to get the ball to get better, you know, they

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<v Speaker 4>needed to you know, produce. But he's the kind of

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<v Speaker 4>guy that can at least start that point, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>The wing, get it to the inside and okay, see

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<v Speaker 2>what happens at who's expense?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the neither just neither just Tommy Lloyd. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>he is he going to take him and Bradley. He's

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<v Speaker 2>going to take take out Caleb or kJ right right?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, so that's that's the point.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the whole thing. You have talent, oh not? What

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<v Speaker 3>do I do with it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, some guys maybe instead of playing you know,

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<v Speaker 3>They'll spread out the differences there and then you have

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<v Speaker 3>kJ coming off the bench, which seemed to go well.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, he liked it. He said he wanted it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I had Corey, We had Corey Williams on

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday and he says, that's a strange move because if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a compared and you know you're good, why would

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<v Speaker 2>you do that? You know, because you want to play

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<v Speaker 2>and you want to start. You really, why would you

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<v Speaker 2>do well? Jason Terry did it right, Yeah for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>and he and he was better than a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean he filled it perfectly. Whether or not

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<v Speaker 4>this generation of players want to do that and get

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<v Speaker 4>their instant gratification, yeah, maybe not, but it's nice to see.

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<v Speaker 4>I know pel Larson kind of went back and forth

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<v Speaker 4>when he was here. That was paid off for him

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<v Speaker 4>pretty well. Yeah, that was mentioned.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the issue, and I've said this before, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>good enough, especially for the next level.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess what, David, you're good enough?

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you if you if you're good enough to

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<v Speaker 2>get here in your job, they're hiring you for a reason, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're not good enough, you probably won't be here.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it does and these guys know, I think,

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<v Speaker 4>so you don't start, so you know, you come off

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<v Speaker 4>the bench five minutes in and you're still going to play,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, five to thirty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, it's like Brian, like Brian, you know, the the

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<v Speaker 2>McDonald's all American blah blah blah. So how do you

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<v Speaker 2>where do you find minutes for him? For a good

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<v Speaker 2>player who's kind of still learning the ropes?

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<v Speaker 4>You can tell. You can tell he's kind of hesitant.

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<v Speaker 4>He's going to be you know, he wants to do something,

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<v Speaker 4>and if he misses that first shot, it's like, now,

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<v Speaker 4>what's he going to do next?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, is he not gonna be is gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>out of rhythm a little bit? So he's another guy

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<v Speaker 4>that's gonna have they're gonna have to kind of baby

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<v Speaker 4>him along.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just funny you said that because you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't notice. I didn't notice it until maybe two three

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago. It's very apparent right that he's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like gut shy or hesitant blah bla blah. I don't remember,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe I haven't thought about it. Another player like

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<v Speaker 2>that who's at that quality or level five star McDonald's

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<v Speaker 2>who lacked.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because he lacks it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's good very good in fact, but he lacks that

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<v Speaker 2>that confidence or lacks that that that cockiness or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>the word is.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's interesting when they when they come off

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<v Speaker 4>the bench or when they're starting, and sometimes it's that

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<v Speaker 4>first shot, you know, if it he looks good, he

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<v Speaker 4>feels good, and there's just something about you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>know Caleb's struggle.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the crowd's kind of wondering what's happening.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm sure it's kind of in their heads

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<v Speaker 4>as to how they feel when things don't go well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, I think Kobey ready to hit and play

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<v Speaker 2>and go go. And then to our first guest, Scott,

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<v Speaker 2>Matt mil walk here for the first hour talking about

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<v Speaker 2>you a basketball. He's seen a few, he's seen a

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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the ball on Fox Sports fourteen fidding.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to take part in the show called Out

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<v Speaker 1>Steve now went five to two oh four one, six seventy.

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<v Speaker 2>Four hero Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Silver Now on the phone. We have Matt milboch former.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a star legend.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you, Matt mlbuck, Dude.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just I'm just a dude, man, I'm like the dude.

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<v Speaker 5>What was that movie, Big big Lebowski? There you go

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<v Speaker 5>on the dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I'm going to talk to you about that

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<v Speaker 2>later after we talk about UA basketball. You've seen a

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<v Speaker 2>few games, ready, You've done a few, right?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? I did the first four games. They had the

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<v Speaker 5>two exhibitions and then the first two games, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and then I saw, of course saw their their games

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<v Speaker 5>in uh in the Bahamas, and so yeah, I've had

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<v Speaker 5>a pretty good.

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<v Speaker 7>Feel for him so far.

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<v Speaker 2>So we had Rhino one last week, and Rhino's great

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<v Speaker 2>with his analysis because he knows yesterday we had Corey

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<v Speaker 2>and I had two things. Defending the three point line

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<v Speaker 2>is a concern, and I think everybody who doesn't see

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<v Speaker 2>basketball knows that. But my whole thing with the team

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<v Speaker 2>is and the things I noticed with you guys back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day with the teams I covered with Lout

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<v Speaker 2>and Tommy's first years, Sean not so much transition points.

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<v Speaker 2>Lout would go on eighteen to two runs, twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>to five runs and the game was over. Tommy hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been able to develop.

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<v Speaker 5>That well, you mean, especially with this team, right, haven't correct?

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<v Speaker 5>It feels like, I mean, because he's done it the

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<v Speaker 5>first three years, I think he's pretty successful.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>They went on some crazy, some.

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<v Speaker 5>Crazy runs those years and were super successful, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's all been a little bit of a surprise, right,

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<v Speaker 5>And maybe maybe they were rank a little high, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>for for what they had, and they've they've had to.

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<v Speaker 7>Kind of work through some stuff. I think.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, when you go on runs like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we always think of the players right that offensively that

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you got the Iguadalas and Sean Elliotts and

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<v Speaker 5>guys that finish on the break. But that's all started

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<v Speaker 5>by defense. And you know, this team hasn't been great defensively.

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<v Speaker 7>They haven't been.

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<v Speaker 5>Able to get the two, three, four stops in a

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<v Speaker 7>Transition and finish.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that's been a little bit of the

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<v Speaker 5>difference between this team and maybe the last few teams.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think they've they've, they've I think the second

427
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<v Speaker 5>thing to me, Steve, is just that you know, it

428
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<v Speaker 5>hasn't clicked yet for this team, right, we've and sometimes

429
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<v Speaker 5>I always say, it's like your front yard. You know,

430
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<v Speaker 5>when your front yard looks great, nobody notices when it

431
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<v Speaker 5>doesn't look good. You know, people notice and they say

432
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<v Speaker 5>something about it. But so it's not as easy as

433
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<v Speaker 5>it looks. And when it when they've made it look

434
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<v Speaker 5>easy the last few years, we just kind of assumed that, oh,

435
00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:13.880
<v Speaker 5>that's how every team does it, not the case, and

436
00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:17.240
<v Speaker 5>they just it hasn't clicked yet for them. And I

437
00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:20.559
<v Speaker 5>think that's that's just one of those things, and you know,

438
00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:24.119
<v Speaker 5>lost some players from last year, and there's some different

439
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<v Speaker 5>players playing. You lost like an incredible NBA glue guy

440
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<v Speaker 5>in Pella, lost another NBA guy in key Shot, you know,

441
00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:34.359
<v Speaker 5>and I think, uh, I think some players are playing

442
00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:36.480
<v Speaker 5>a little bit, some new positions, trying to.

443
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<v Speaker 7>Figure some stuff out.

444
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<v Speaker 5>It just like I said, it hadn't clicked and they

445
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<v Speaker 5>got to kind of they got.

446
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<v Speaker 2>To figure it out. You know what I got from that,

447
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<v Speaker 2>I need a gardener. Get me a gardener from my

448
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<v Speaker 2>front yard.

449
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<v Speaker 4>Isn't that going to be what probably a conversation that's

450
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<v Speaker 4>happening all over the country with some of these teams.

451
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<v Speaker 3>And he was just losing a couple of games.

452
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<v Speaker 4>This week, and I mean, you got all these new

453
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<v Speaker 4>players kind of just filtering in and trying to learn

454
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<v Speaker 4>and learn what's going on. And it's gonna to be

455
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<v Speaker 4>a challenge for these coaches to you know, kind of

456
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<v Speaker 4>be chemists and put together the right pieces.

457
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<v Speaker 5>Well that was the word, you know, Dave I was

458
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<v Speaker 5>going to use, was chemistry. And when I when I

459
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<v Speaker 5>call games and uh go see a coach for the

460
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<v Speaker 5>first time, you know this season, or I typically asked

461
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<v Speaker 5>him one of the first questions I asked him, is

462
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<v Speaker 5>you know, how's your chemistry number one?

463
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<v Speaker 7>And how do you develop it?

464
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<v Speaker 9>Like?

465
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<v Speaker 7>How do you you know?

466
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<v Speaker 5>And I'll tell you it's like you said, you have

467
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<v Speaker 5>to be a chemist and you get into the lab

468
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<v Speaker 5>and there's there's a lot of tweaking that goes on.

469
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<v Speaker 5>There's a lot of you know, just work in that area.

470
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<v Speaker 5>You know, Tommy did a wonderful job of it his

471
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<v Speaker 5>first three years, and not that he's not doing a

472
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<v Speaker 5>good job this year. It's it's just that we saw

473
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<v Speaker 5>it early on, right, We saw the the chemistry really

474
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<v Speaker 5>work early on, and he does such a great job

475
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<v Speaker 5>of getting his team to share the ball and be unselfish.

476
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<v Speaker 5>And you know, they they they weren't perfect at that

477
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<v Speaker 5>in the I think they struggled with that a little bit,

478
00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:07.680
<v Speaker 5>struggled with that against Duke and Wisconsin, and but you know,

479
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<v Speaker 5>it's it's and it has it's like one game, I

480
00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:13.720
<v Speaker 5>thought the Wisconsin game they really struggled on defense. That

481
00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:16.359
<v Speaker 5>was to me where they really struggled. I thought they

482
00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:20.319
<v Speaker 5>were fine physical and played pretty good offensively. Caleb didn't

483
00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:23.240
<v Speaker 5>play well and then on the flip side, you know,

484
00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:25.799
<v Speaker 5>it played pretty well defensively against Duke and then all

485
00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:28.960
<v Speaker 5>of a sudden, the offense you know, left them, and uh,

486
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<v Speaker 5>you know, I also remember Duke might be the best

487
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<v Speaker 5>team in the country when it comes down to it,

488
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<v Speaker 5>when they play well, I think they might be the

489
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<v Speaker 5>best team in the country. So you know, look, it's

490
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<v Speaker 5>it's not perfect right now, and like I said, there's

491
00:21:42.440 --> 00:21:44.559
<v Speaker 5>some development that needs to happen, and they're working on

492
00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:47.319
<v Speaker 5>it in a weird way. Like I was super excited

493
00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:50.720
<v Speaker 5>to see what would happen, and we're seeing it right now.

494
00:21:50.759 --> 00:21:54.400
<v Speaker 5>We've seen one game right when they came back from

495
00:21:54.480 --> 00:21:56.720
<v Speaker 5>the Bahamas, and how they would roll their sleeves up,

496
00:21:57.160 --> 00:21:59.119
<v Speaker 5>how they would kind of get after it and get

497
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<v Speaker 5>back to some of the bay that Tommy teaches so well.

498
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<v Speaker 5>So I'm not panicked about this team or anything bigger

499
00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:10.720
<v Speaker 5>picture than that, but certainly certainly not what we thought

500
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<v Speaker 5>I think coming.

501
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<v Speaker 7>Out of the gate.

502
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<v Speaker 5>You know with that number what nine or ten ranking?

503
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, no question. So what do you think

504
00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:21.039
<v Speaker 2>it needs to happen? Just play better defense? Well I

505
00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:23.400
<v Speaker 2>asked ryanal this too, and I and I kind of

506
00:22:23.480 --> 00:22:26.039
<v Speaker 2>knew his answer, and then probably saying you'll probably give

507
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<v Speaker 2>me the same one. This team has struggled a little,

508
00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:32.240
<v Speaker 2>so has Caleb. So a simple question as Caleb goes,

509
00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:33.720
<v Speaker 2>so go the Cats.

510
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<v Speaker 5>A little bit. I mean, he's definitely the alpha. I mean,

511
00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:40.839
<v Speaker 5>he's a he's a he's gonna shoot it right, he's

512
00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:46.720
<v Speaker 5>a he's a volume shooter. I think you know, Caleb

513
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<v Speaker 5>to some degree might tell you, and I haven't talked

514
00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:51.559
<v Speaker 5>to him, but he might say he's been trying to

515
00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:54.039
<v Speaker 5>change his game a little bit right, to become a

516
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<v Speaker 5>little bit more of a facilitator, a little bit more

517
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<v Speaker 5>of a patient offensive player, and that might take some time.

518
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<v Speaker 5>I mean I think you know, in those games, maybe

519
00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:07.319
<v Speaker 5>he was a little uncomfortable with Okay, what's a good shot,

520
00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:10.880
<v Speaker 5>what's not a good shot? You know, what's a questionable shot. Well,

521
00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:13.000
<v Speaker 5>I think in the past, you know, to some degree,

522
00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:16.119
<v Speaker 5>everything's been a good shot for him. So you know,

523
00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:19.519
<v Speaker 5>he's he's confident, he believes in what he's doing, and

524
00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:21.880
<v Speaker 5>when he plays well, you you love it, right, you

525
00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:25.880
<v Speaker 5>can you can ride him like Carolina did all the

526
00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:28.680
<v Speaker 5>way to the championship game. That's one of the great

527
00:23:28.680 --> 00:23:29.440
<v Speaker 5>things about him.

528
00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:29.880
<v Speaker 7>I think.

529
00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:32.079
<v Speaker 5>So it's taken a little bit of time kind of

530
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<v Speaker 5>figure that out. I think again back to just the

531
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<v Speaker 5>chemistry of the team. You know, I think there's two things. One,

532
00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:42.720
<v Speaker 5>you know, we always think of chemistry and like all

533
00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:45.519
<v Speaker 5>the players you know, hang out together and like each

534
00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:47.319
<v Speaker 5>other and their best buddies and all that. I mean,

535
00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:50.519
<v Speaker 5>there's there is something to that. There's something to really

536
00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:54.920
<v Speaker 5>enjoying your teammates and having really good guys that get.

537
00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:56.400
<v Speaker 7>Along and that helps your chemistry.

538
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<v Speaker 5>But the other thing is you got the greatest guys

539
00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:02.759
<v Speaker 5>in the world, and sometimes they just it doesn't click

540
00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:06.759
<v Speaker 5>right or it hasn't clicked. And maybe for this team,

541
00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:10.400
<v Speaker 5>to me, you just haven't seen him click yet. You know,

542
00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:13.039
<v Speaker 5>you and I remember, and all three of us remember,

543
00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:16.920
<v Speaker 5>for whatever reason, Loot had some teams that really clicked early.

544
00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:20.240
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you know, they always clicked.

545
00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:24.400
<v Speaker 5>Most of them were clicking like November, you know, fifteenth,

546
00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:24.799
<v Speaker 5>they were.

547
00:24:24.720 --> 00:24:27.039
<v Speaker 7>Ready to go. And Tommy had this.

548
00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:28.440
<v Speaker 5>Tommy had the same thing his.

549
00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:29.079
<v Speaker 7>First three years.

550
00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:31.880
<v Speaker 5>It was, you know, someone asking I did a radio

551
00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:35.519
<v Speaker 5>show recently. Someone asked me because Tommy had a big win,

552
00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:38.359
<v Speaker 5>you know, in his three years, and I'm like, well,

553
00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:40.759
<v Speaker 5>he beat Duke at Duke last year, the second game

554
00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:43.799
<v Speaker 5>of the year. He's got a lot of big wins,

555
00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:48.240
<v Speaker 5>and they they were clicking, you know, as well as

556
00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:50.559
<v Speaker 5>they probably did all season from from sort.

557
00:24:50.319 --> 00:24:50.920
<v Speaker 7>Of day one.

558
00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:55.799
<v Speaker 5>And sometimes you just don't know. And sometimes you do

559
00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:58.960
<v Speaker 5>everything you can and it's not clicking. Maybe, you know,

560
00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:02.480
<v Speaker 5>and I use the or you know, just efficient or optimization.

561
00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:08.480
<v Speaker 5>They just they haven't optimized what they have. And it

562
00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:10.640
<v Speaker 5>is what it is, like, like I said to somebody's

563
00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:12.200
<v Speaker 5>sort of excited to me as a fan, you know,

564
00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:15.640
<v Speaker 5>to watch that and watch the the the watch them

565
00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:17.880
<v Speaker 5>evolve as a team and get better and kind of

566
00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:18.720
<v Speaker 5>roll their sleeves up.

567
00:25:20.039 --> 00:25:22.759
<v Speaker 4>Maybe a strange analogy, but think about maybe sometimes you

568
00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:24.920
<v Speaker 4>have a movie and you got all these great actors

569
00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:26.920
<v Speaker 4>and the movie just isn't very good.

570
00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:28.839
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes that's the way it is in sports.

571
00:25:28.920 --> 00:25:31.319
<v Speaker 4>You've got some individuals that you know are terrific, but

572
00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:34.359
<v Speaker 4>together as a group, it just doesn't work. So hopefully,

573
00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:36.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, this is a long movie that gets better

574
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:39.839
<v Speaker 4>with time and these guys can get things rolling.

575
00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:44.640
<v Speaker 5>Well, No, it's a good point, and we say it

576
00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:46.720
<v Speaker 5>all the time. You know, you don't really want to

577
00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:51.519
<v Speaker 5>play your best basketball obviously in November or December even

578
00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:54.119
<v Speaker 5>and so you know, yeah, conference is coming up, and

579
00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:58.079
<v Speaker 5>it might be the most you know, treacherous conference run

580
00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:00.200
<v Speaker 5>they've ever had in a way, right.

581
00:26:01.039 --> 00:26:02.119
<v Speaker 7>But I do think this.

582
00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:06.880
<v Speaker 5>Look, I'll defend this to the day I die. I'm

583
00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:09.759
<v Speaker 5>not saying the Pac twelve has been better than the

584
00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:12.039
<v Speaker 5>Big twelve the last four or five years.

585
00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:15.039
<v Speaker 7>But look at football. You know, people rip the Pac.

586
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:17.799
<v Speaker 5>Twelve for so long, and the team that finished what

587
00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:20.200
<v Speaker 5>dead last in the conference just won the Big Twelve.

588
00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:24.319
<v Speaker 5>The team that couldn't win the Pac twelve the last

589
00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:27.640
<v Speaker 5>four years, Oregon, just won the Big Ten. And the

590
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:30.440
<v Speaker 5>other team that was dead last in the football the

591
00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:32.599
<v Speaker 5>Pac twelve last year was what second in the Big twelve?

592
00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:33.359
<v Speaker 7>That was Colorado.

593
00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:38.519
<v Speaker 5>And I think, you know, there's a huge element of

594
00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:42.440
<v Speaker 5>the of the marketing that goes on throughout the country

595
00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:46.720
<v Speaker 5>and West Coast bias and the marketing or lack of

596
00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:50.480
<v Speaker 5>marketing is a real thing. And you guys know like

597
00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:54.000
<v Speaker 5>when we played with loots teams, you know, I don't

598
00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:57.319
<v Speaker 5>you know, we walked through the season. I remember going

599
00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:00.599
<v Speaker 5>to play at Duke, or at Illinois or at you know,

600
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:01.119
<v Speaker 5>Pitt or.

601
00:27:01.799 --> 00:27:02.519
<v Speaker 7>Name a school.

602
00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:05.599
<v Speaker 5>We played everywhere, and I would tell you to this

603
00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:07.920
<v Speaker 5>day like it wasn't that much tougher than playing at

604
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:11.680
<v Speaker 5>cal or at Stanford or at UCLA. Like the players

605
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:14.880
<v Speaker 5>are the players, And I laugh sometimes I see like

606
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:17.119
<v Speaker 5>guys that say, you know, this league's better than that league,

607
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:19.519
<v Speaker 5>and you look at the roster, and the roster might

608
00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:22.680
<v Speaker 5>be you know, five great players from LA. So it's

609
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:24.119
<v Speaker 5>you know, players now.

610
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:25.839
<v Speaker 3>Come from everywhere, go everywhere.

611
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:29.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, conferences tend to be cyclical and go up and down.

612
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.160
<v Speaker 5>The West Coast always had a problem because they have

613
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:37.039
<v Speaker 5>no other conference that that really stuck out of. It's

614
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:38.960
<v Speaker 5>just one conference on the West Coast. You know, there's

615
00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:41.279
<v Speaker 5>always one conference, right, and so if it was having

616
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:43.319
<v Speaker 5>a great year, you heard about it. If it wasn't,

617
00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:46.640
<v Speaker 5>you really heard about it. So look, I think it'll

618
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:50.039
<v Speaker 5>be a tough league. But you know, going to play

619
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:52.480
<v Speaker 5>at Oregon, going to even going to play at places

620
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.079
<v Speaker 5>like Washington State are are really hard, you know. And

621
00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:59.319
<v Speaker 5>and and I think the football to some degree proved

622
00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:03.319
<v Speaker 5>that this year. Like football's football, basketball is basketball. And

623
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:06.440
<v Speaker 5>if you're if Arizona's playing well and they're good, they'll

624
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:09.000
<v Speaker 5>they'll be successful in the Big Twelve, just like they

625
00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:12.119
<v Speaker 5>were successful in the Pack Pac twelve. Well but if

626
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:13.480
<v Speaker 5>they don't play, well, they won't.

627
00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:14.240
<v Speaker 3>Matt.

628
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:16.079
<v Speaker 2>I know, you got to go. You're an important dude,

629
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:22.559
<v Speaker 2>You're a dude, You're important. You got to go the dude. Yeah, thanks, Matt.

630
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.799
<v Speaker 5>We'll get We're gonna grab some white Russians like the dude,

631
00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:26.799
<v Speaker 5>the dude to buys.

632
00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:28.720
<v Speaker 3>Isn't that the word? The expression?

633
00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:29.400
<v Speaker 7>That's right?

634
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:30.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

635
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, thanks Matt. We'll talk to you again soon when

636
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.039
<v Speaker 2>you have more time. I appreciate. We'll see you soon.

637
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:35.960
<v Speaker 7>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>He had to get somewhere. We have a few more minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>uh to talk more. There's a big game this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>He had some good points. Yeah, didn't even get to

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<v Speaker 2>the U c l A game.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't get to much.

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<v Speaker 2>And then yesterday we were talking about coaches and good dudes.

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<v Speaker 2>Tough dudes invariably, daved invariably, and I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>this is.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Who are some of the tougher dudes you think or

649
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<v Speaker 2>we've covered in basketball?

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<v Speaker 4>Specifically Wayne Womack. I remember back in the day he

651
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<v Speaker 4>was he was. I don't think he ever smiled.

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Wright.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Michael, but Michael had a soft side to him too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but he was mean dude.

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<v Speaker 3>He was mean. I remember, I remember, give me the ball,

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<v Speaker 3>Give me the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>And the guy's like, okay, I don't know, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what the toughest dude, because you're talking tough dudes are

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<v Speaker 2>the physical. Yeah, this guy that we just talked to,

660
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<v Speaker 2>they said that he well he never lost here, right,

661
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<v Speaker 2>he never lost. One of the very few guys. But

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<v Speaker 2>the dude was a competitor. And that's that's how I

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of dividing the tough dude.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd like to kind of go back and look at

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<v Speaker 4>who he was playing against, too, because he was in that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, with the post Shawn Elliott years, and there

667
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<v Speaker 4>were still some great in those years too. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know Reggie, Reggie Miller was already gone, but

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<v Speaker 4>I like Baron Davis and people like that he had

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<v Speaker 4>to deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>Davis was more Jason Terry. But there's still some of

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<v Speaker 2>those guys.

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<v Speaker 4>I need to do that one of these years and

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<v Speaker 4>just just kind of look back and see who is

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<v Speaker 4>on those rosters in those same eras and who those

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<v Speaker 4>games were.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at the box scores.

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<v Speaker 4>You're right, I mean, no no losses at Mchael, No

679
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<v Speaker 4>lost Michael and he was just one of those dudes

680
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<v Speaker 4>we were talking yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Who was with me yesterday? Cody?

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<v Speaker 2>Cody, Yeah, Cody, and he knows the history. He was

683
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<v Speaker 2>talking about how good this guy would be as a coach,

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<v Speaker 2>because I said that the question was, mam, and I

685
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<v Speaker 2>may have told you the question to ask you the question,

686
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<v Speaker 2>how many good guys do you know are good coaches?

687
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<v Speaker 2>And I'm talking good guys and you know because you've

688
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<v Speaker 2>covered them. But because you have to have a pos

689
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<v Speaker 2>person in you or an attitude where don't cross me

690
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<v Speaker 2>or else, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye, Matt. Matt went the other direction. Is a lawyer,

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<v Speaker 3>so he a little more job security there too. But

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<v Speaker 3>he also had if you're not if you're a lawyer,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to be is a pretty good guy you have? Well, yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a hell of a competitor, right, so you know

696
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<v Speaker 2>when that switch goes on, you know that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know he stood up to Michael Jordan, for.

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<v Speaker 2>God's sake and said, don't mess to be yep, because

699
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<v Speaker 2>you know, you have to have that edge to you.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's where that the Cody used edge. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to have that pos guy saying, Dave, don't do it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do it again, or you'll find out. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, lout for all intentsive purposes. But he

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<v Speaker 2>was good guys with his crowd. He was tough to

705
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<v Speaker 2>get through because he was didn't allow it. But he

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<v Speaker 2>had his two you better play well for me or

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<v Speaker 2>else type of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep. And they had enough good talents.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that if hey, you know so and so

710
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<v Speaker 4>is not playing well, there's somebody on the bench who

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<v Speaker 4>might be ready to come in.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said that not as well as Bobby Knight

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<v Speaker 2>did the best fixed for any problems the bench, right exactly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and lut had And that's why I even even mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>this to Tommy. The thing that made Arizona good for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time, the second team would give the first

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<v Speaker 2>team a pretty good run. In fact, next time we

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<v Speaker 2>have Matt he I think it's nineteen eighty eight nine,

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<v Speaker 2>he's he would put the teams together, right, the first team,

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<v Speaker 2>second team, and the practice wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>End to the first team beat the second team.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, on this day, the second team was kicking the

723
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<v Speaker 2>crap out of them. They didn't they didn't practice until

724
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<v Speaker 2>he kind of fixed it. The end the practice were

725
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<v Speaker 2>the first team finally won.

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<v Speaker 4>There were so many good players and some of those

727
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<v Speaker 4>teams were so deep in terms of their you know,

728
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<v Speaker 4>overall numbers you could put together, you know, at least

729
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<v Speaker 4>ten guys. Now Arizona's got what twenty guys on the bench,

730
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<v Speaker 4>they could play four games.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they have twenty dudes, but only about nine

732
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<v Speaker 2>good ones exactly. Yeah, the rest of them kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like you get a prettyem what's a pretty Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 2>is what it is. Okay, Okay, Kobe, let's go to break.

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<v Speaker 2>Just hit player are good. If you're an Arizona man's

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<v Speaker 2>basketball fan, you know it's been successful for nearly forty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Now take a look back at the Ludelsen era in

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<v Speaker 2>and friends to give insight to the coach and the

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<v Speaker 2>man who led them, competed against them, and inspire them

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five chapters for his twenty five years as Arizona's

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<v Speaker 2>he built the program into a national powerhouse. What one

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<v Speaker 2>email me at Steve dot rivera ninety five at gmail

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Rivera, he's got his eye on the ball on

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<v Speaker 1>Tucson's sports station, Fox Sports fourteen fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, here all Fox Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Riverta.

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<v Speaker 2>Do Dave Silver good to talk to Matt as always always?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean the guy's been around the program for

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<v Speaker 4>what thirty plus years?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm going to try to get him on the

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<v Speaker 2>show and talk like free lawyer stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a fifteen minute consultation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's good, he's you know, obviously we've all watched him,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, as a player and then you know as

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<v Speaker 4>a broadcaster for so many years on all kinds of networks,

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<v Speaker 4>the PAC twelve, and I know he's getting some play

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<v Speaker 4>on whatever at ESPN Plus. And you didn't get a

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<v Speaker 4>chance to ask him where where we'll see him most

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<v Speaker 4>this year, But it sounds like the ESPN Plus is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be one place.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, you know why that the nineteen eighty eight

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<v Speaker 3>team was pretty good. Eighty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at the people he had on successful people, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Kerr obviously one of the all time greats. He's an attorney.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Is is sewn has been. You know, he's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the San Antonio stars on the radio now and

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<v Speaker 2>TV Tolbert Tolbert. He's no longer at the station that

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<v Speaker 2>I told you that, ye are you jacking?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, shocking after twenty eight years.

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<v Speaker 4>I have not followed it since he was let go

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of weeks ago, but I would almost bet

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<v Speaker 4>he'll be somewhere else in the end.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to get ahold of him. He could be.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, come out here be my co host, sorry, larious, think.

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<v Speaker 4>We could do three of us could get Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>he I mean he's a you know, fantastic on cambr

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<v Speaker 4>went through a number of different co hosts with him,

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<v Speaker 4>and just you know, his personality and his humor and

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<v Speaker 4>just honesty was you know, played played so well, but

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<v Speaker 4>he got caught up in corporate who hasn't who hasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Who hasn't And then you have a you know, Harry Mason,

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<v Speaker 2>the president of the music American Music.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I don't want to screw that up. But

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<v Speaker 3>he's a big time dude.

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<v Speaker 4>Runs the Grammys. He runs the Grammys, right yeah, what

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<v Speaker 4>really what a collection should be in the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 4>Hopefully someday I'm going to miss some guys here, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't know what what did Anthony Craig McMillan,

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<v Speaker 4>Anthony Cook is doing, Craig is coaching still Santa Rosa. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so just you know, you can tell the success of

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<v Speaker 4>the team, but the people, you know, in a way,

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<v Speaker 4>they're competitors, you know, their competitors on the on the court.

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<v Speaker 4>Look what they did that one year? What were they

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<v Speaker 4>thirty five and three? And you know, then they go

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<v Speaker 4>out into the real world and obviously, you know, Steve

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<v Speaker 4>has had an unbelievable career that's going to put him

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<v Speaker 4>in the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 3>It's some when he's finished.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, Sean Longevity has been in San Antonio

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<v Speaker 4>again talking about a legend in their community. That's one

849
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:48.679
<v Speaker 4>of the good things about some of these UFA athletes.

850
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:50.280
<v Speaker 4>We think, well, why aren't they, you know, doing much

851
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:51.840
<v Speaker 4>here in town. Well, they go to these cities and

852
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:54.719
<v Speaker 4>they get themselves embedded there and they you know, they

853
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:57.920
<v Speaker 4>start foundations and charities and things like that, and businesses.

854
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.199
<v Speaker 4>There's no time for here and they're they're heroes for

855
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:03.440
<v Speaker 4>the Spurs or Buffalo Bills, like Glenn Parker, my buddy,

856
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.159
<v Speaker 4>you know, he's said, you know, I I'll give back

857
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:08.280
<v Speaker 4>into some but I was in Buffalo for like, you know,

858
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:10.880
<v Speaker 4>twelve fifteen years, right, they loved me there.

859
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:12.000
<v Speaker 3>And he was here for two. Yeah.

860
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:14.199
<v Speaker 2>Now he's back for a while. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

861
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:17.480
<v Speaker 2>you're right, right, yeah, no question. And and who are

862
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:21.239
<v Speaker 2>we or anybody to criticize what they do for any community?

863
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:21.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

864
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:24.039
<v Speaker 4>I mean in a way, I'm just you know, kind

865
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:26.039
<v Speaker 4>of proud to know them and proud to see what

866
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:27.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, Hey, I remember when they were here kind

867
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:29.920
<v Speaker 4>of thing. And they all kind of came through the

868
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:31.679
<v Speaker 4>u A at some point when they were young, and

869
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:33.960
<v Speaker 4>they've gone on and had some great success, most of them.

870
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.679
<v Speaker 2>John Phoenix of the World, Yeah yeah, John Peena Parker,

871
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:41.079
<v Speaker 2>like you talked about some of those guys. Yeah, anybody

872
00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:43.079
<v Speaker 2>want to call please? Do I think I think we're

873
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:46.199
<v Speaker 2>ready for a call or too? Right, Senor Kobe, Maybe

874
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:48.960
<v Speaker 2>you're not. You let me know if you get a call,

875
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:50.840
<v Speaker 2>you just give me. I'll give you a call and

876
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.000
<v Speaker 2>we'll we'll see we can get somebody on five to

877
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:55.320
<v Speaker 2>zero four one, six seventy four forty. You'll see a

878
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:58.360
<v Speaker 2>flash and just hit the A and they'll be on

879
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:03.280
<v Speaker 2>and then raise their RaSE, their thing, raise their your voice. Okay,

880
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:06.159
<v Speaker 2>five two oh four one six seventy four forty. We

881
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:08.800
<v Speaker 2>have about thirteen minutes, so we came back early from

882
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:11.159
<v Speaker 2>the break. Anything you guys want to talk about that'd

883
00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:14.679
<v Speaker 2>be great. The UCLA game this weekend. UCLA's ranked twenty fourth,

884
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:17.280
<v Speaker 2>I think they are, yeah, and Arizona's unranked, which is

885
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:19.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, a little shocking that both teams aren't ranked.

886
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:22.159
<v Speaker 2>I think you and m is the only losses to

887
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:26.760
<v Speaker 2>New Mexico about a few weeks ago. UCLA's only lost

888
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:29.519
<v Speaker 2>and the goes okay, they're not thatch God.

889
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:31.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Wildcats haven't played too many games in that arena

890
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.159
<v Speaker 4>too really, I mean they have, but yeah, think if anything.

891
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:38.719
<v Speaker 3>That memorable last year they played Alabama? Was that there? Yeah?

892
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:41.159
<v Speaker 3>That was there? Okay, Yeah, since I'm going up for

893
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:43.960
<v Speaker 3>that for for this weekend, what do you think ten

894
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:45.320
<v Speaker 3>thousand fans? Uh?

895
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, because it's gonna look half full, well yeah,

896
00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:49.320
<v Speaker 2>ten thousand.

897
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:51.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean the place holds like eighteen yeah.

898
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:53.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and guess what when you're not doing well. In

899
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:56.599
<v Speaker 2>Arizona's case four and four, the luster wears off a

900
00:39:56.679 --> 00:39:57.840
<v Speaker 2>little until.

901
00:39:57.599 --> 00:39:59.920
<v Speaker 3>This is not I mean, this is really there.

902
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.679
<v Speaker 4>The Phoenix area's chance to see these guys right right,

903
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:05.760
<v Speaker 4>other than the ASU game, I guess later, but still,

904
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:08.239
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's a pretty good opportunity to get on

905
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:11.679
<v Speaker 4>national TV and play your old rival and keep this thing,

906
00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:14.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, alive still Or isn't the next game going

907
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:16.039
<v Speaker 4>to be in Vegas or something? When they play them

908
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:19.760
<v Speaker 4>they don't want to do the home No.

909
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:20.440
<v Speaker 2>No, I think because they don't want to have like

910
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:21.960
<v Speaker 2>an advantage, a big advantage.

911
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:23.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is what it is.

912
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:25.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, it'd be more of an advantage for it well,

913
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:29.000
<v Speaker 2>and usually gets gets up for the Arizona games. That's

914
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:30.840
<v Speaker 2>the only time they really have a packed house.

915
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I need to see the reason.

916
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:34.679
<v Speaker 4>You know, there's been all this talk about nil is

917
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:37.119
<v Speaker 4>the reason why these games are being played or won't

918
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:37.840
<v Speaker 4>be being played.

919
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Have you seen some of those stories?

920
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:43.280
<v Speaker 2>No? And maybe I'm doing more research being playing at

921
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:46.360
<v Speaker 2>their homes right because they wouldn't he canct more money

922
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:49.079
<v Speaker 2>somewhere else something like that, because they're getting paid to

923
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:52.360
<v Speaker 2>be there. Yeah, maybe, I mean, come on, that aren't

924
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.360
<v Speaker 2>you glad? This is a serious question that you're no

925
00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:58.360
<v Speaker 2>longer in this business. Honestly, I mean, my business is easy.

926
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:01.199
<v Speaker 2>I can talk about how foolish it is, but but

927
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:03.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm not chasing kids making a lot of money and

928
00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:07.280
<v Speaker 2>waiting for phone calls and all that crap like for recruiting.

929
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:10.320
<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, I don't miss that, and I don't know

930
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:11.320
<v Speaker 4>how it would go now, I don't.

931
00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:12.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how much.

932
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:14.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I honestly don't know how much access anybody

933
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:15.440
<v Speaker 4>gets anymore.

934
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:17.559
<v Speaker 3>They don't and they you know, they hear, oh you

935
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:19.880
<v Speaker 3>know so what so cyanautograss, let's go do a story.

936
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:20.079
<v Speaker 1>You know.

937
00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:22.199
<v Speaker 4>It's a good little human interest, right and they're only

938
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:23.679
<v Speaker 4>doing it because they're getting money.

939
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:27.000
<v Speaker 3>Right No, no, no, no, real rhyme reason right No.

940
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:27.199
<v Speaker 11>No.

941
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Back in the day when I first got here, it

942
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:31.280
<v Speaker 2>was like the guys doing camps and things like that,

943
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Well we're giving back to the community. Not really, you're

944
00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:35.559
<v Speaker 2>just because they're gonna pay you to do this.

945
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:38.639
<v Speaker 4>You know what from TV World in the summertime in

946
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:41.360
<v Speaker 4>June or July, Well you need those doing a camp,

947
00:41:41.400 --> 00:41:43.639
<v Speaker 4>we'll turn that into like a four part series.

948
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:45.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, No, what's Luke doing in the

949
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:46.920
<v Speaker 3>summer with Richard Jefferson?

950
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:49.840
<v Speaker 2>And I'm guilty like that, just like you because I

951
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:52.440
<v Speaker 2>was there because there was a story, yep, especially to

952
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:54.880
<v Speaker 2>feel the hole to feel and okay, just answer it

953
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:55.360
<v Speaker 2>real quick.

954
00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:57.679
<v Speaker 4>Those guys would filter in all summer long with their

955
00:41:57.880 --> 00:41:58.559
<v Speaker 4>with their camps.

956
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:01.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, are you on the we You have somebody calling

957
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:02.960
<v Speaker 2>in you on the air that who is this?

958
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:07.719
<v Speaker 3>Hey? Hello, who's this?

959
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

960
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:09.519
<v Speaker 3>This is Gary.

961
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:10.679
<v Speaker 6>I'n't called you in a bit now.

962
00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:12.440
<v Speaker 7>I think I called you last around the u of

963
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:13.320
<v Speaker 7>A football season.

964
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:15.679
<v Speaker 6>But he's calling to I know you guys are the experts.

965
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:18.920
<v Speaker 6>Point to my first UOA basketball game in a while. Uh,

966
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:21.840
<v Speaker 6>who's the big not Grievous, the big European kid they

967
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:22.639
<v Speaker 6>got backing him up.

968
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:23.880
<v Speaker 7>You know I liked him.

969
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Granted that was a Saturday game, that was aye a

970
00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:29.000
<v Speaker 3>woodshed game, but he's.

971
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:33.079
<v Speaker 2>All right, Henry Vsar. What do you like about him?

972
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:34.320
<v Speaker 2>What do you like about it? I wonder if you

973
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:35.239
<v Speaker 2>agree with what I like?

974
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:37.199
<v Speaker 6>Well, he seems to have even a little a better

975
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:39.159
<v Speaker 6>touch than Grievous. I mean, I just like I said,

976
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:41.440
<v Speaker 6>the one game he's hitting those free everything was smooth

977
00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:42.199
<v Speaker 6>he was doing you know.

978
00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, you see what I see when he first

979
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:48.639
<v Speaker 2>came here two three years ago. Uh, A very fantastic shot.

980
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:51.800
<v Speaker 2>He's a stretch five uh seven footer who can shoot

981
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:53.599
<v Speaker 2>the three, and you've seen that he can. He was

982
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:55.599
<v Speaker 2>really on the thin side a couple of years ago.

983
00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I can handle the ball. He's become more aggressive, so

984
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:03.440
<v Speaker 2>everything you see, he's just much better than he was

985
00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:06.280
<v Speaker 2>two three years ago. He's gonna get really really good

986
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:08.400
<v Speaker 2>in another year or so. Last year he had to

987
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:10.800
<v Speaker 2>sit out because he got hurt in a freak accident.

988
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:12.840
<v Speaker 2>But I like him like you do.

989
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:14.519
<v Speaker 7>Well.

990
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:15.880
<v Speaker 6>We were looking up the record. Who think it was

991
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:17.800
<v Speaker 6>Southern Utah And I thought it said they were eight

992
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:19.719
<v Speaker 6>and too. I'm like, well, these guys played anybody good

993
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.320
<v Speaker 6>because nothing was over by must be five minutes into

994
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:22.719
<v Speaker 6>the game.

995
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:26.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah we're done. Yeah, they haven't played anybody good. They haven't.

996
00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:28.880
<v Speaker 2>They're a smaller school obviously, and you know that. But

997
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:32.840
<v Speaker 2>they're eight and two coming in and Arizonas has feasted

998
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:35.719
<v Speaker 2>on these guys these now, can they beat teams that

999
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:36.679
<v Speaker 2>are going to be in the tournament?

1000
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:39.880
<v Speaker 6>Yes, It's it's funny though, Michaim with the older crowd

1001
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:41.719
<v Speaker 6>because you know, I mean the music it's pretty, it's

1002
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:44.119
<v Speaker 6>pretty youngsters. But they're playing some stuff. You know, I'm

1003
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:46.320
<v Speaker 6>in my late fifties. I'm like, what guys name are

1004
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:49.400
<v Speaker 6>they playing? My Dad's like, I mean, what is this stuff?

1005
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:49.599
<v Speaker 2>Man?

1006
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:52.639
<v Speaker 6>Like electronica? I mean, I'm sure to students love it.

1007
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:53.599
<v Speaker 3>But you're funny.

1008
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:55.199
<v Speaker 6>Some old school stuff piped in here?

1009
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:55.480
<v Speaker 3>Please?

1010
00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:57.079
<v Speaker 6>You know, actual music.

1011
00:43:57.320 --> 00:43:59.400
<v Speaker 2>You're funny because you're spot on because I feel the

1012
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:01.280
<v Speaker 2>same way. You know, I'm older now, but even when

1013
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:03.679
<v Speaker 2>I was younger. The crowd is the this is out

1014
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:06.159
<v Speaker 2>to the students, the players, and the and the UA students.

1015
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:08.920
<v Speaker 2>But I would say, sixty forty what would you think

1016
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:10.719
<v Speaker 2>is sixty forty seventy thirty?

1017
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:13.239
<v Speaker 3>Maybe old school? Old school? Yeah?

1018
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:16.400
<v Speaker 4>And then this coming what the next few games at

1019
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:19.679
<v Speaker 4>students are gone, so you know those that whole student

1020
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.239
<v Speaker 4>section will be taken up by people like us.

1021
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:23.599
<v Speaker 3>Jerry go by it.

1022
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:27.000
<v Speaker 6>To you are sart like college man because more more,

1023
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:29.159
<v Speaker 6>more merging band even football, because I can't with the

1024
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:30.960
<v Speaker 6>truth be told, guys, I can't watch Sam Babel the

1025
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:31.840
<v Speaker 6>playoffs because.

1026
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:36.079
<v Speaker 3>You hear that pipe didn't go what is this man,

1027
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:39.079
<v Speaker 3>You're right, it is. You're right about the music. The

1028
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:40.480
<v Speaker 3>NBA is weird. The music.

1029
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:43.079
<v Speaker 4>I mean it literally stops, like right when the ball,

1030
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:44.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, is low bounded.

1031
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:46.880
<v Speaker 2>You remember last year when Steve took some heat because

1032
00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:48.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean, come to Phoenix. God, it's like, al, just

1033
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:50.880
<v Speaker 2>go in this the price. Yeah, and I think Steve's

1034
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:54.800
<v Speaker 2>showing his age. Yeah, damn, just go turn off that music,

1035
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:55.719
<v Speaker 2>get off my lawn.

1036
00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:57.880
<v Speaker 6>My wife's like, what do you like watching hockey? But

1037
00:44:57.920 --> 00:44:59.679
<v Speaker 6>if you notice hockey they actually play now, it's more

1038
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:00.679
<v Speaker 6>heavy than actually play.

1039
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:00.960
<v Speaker 3>Rock and roll.

1040
00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:03.320
<v Speaker 6>Maybe it's like I said, the crowd the players. NBA

1041
00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:05.719
<v Speaker 6>is more I did not even I'll take hip hop

1042
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:09.480
<v Speaker 6>over the electronica, you know, Denmark nightclub stuff. Man, that's

1043
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:11.760
<v Speaker 6>a little too much for me. I just call him

1044
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:13.760
<v Speaker 6>to Ben. Gentlemen, I'll touch base with you when you

1045
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:15.159
<v Speaker 6>of A starts out. Well, I got a good one.

1046
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:18.639
<v Speaker 2>Saturday, Garry, you're working on my lawn anytime. I won't

1047
00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:23.679
<v Speaker 2>tell you to get off my lawn. Geary, Okay, doesn't

1048
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:25.800
<v Speaker 2>the U of A have like a disco game playing

1049
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:27.239
<v Speaker 2>in the in the end zone there?

1050
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:28.960
<v Speaker 3>And well also in football team? He did?

1051
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:31.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he's there now, but he was.

1052
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:34.480
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't the exhibition games and stuff. But he's right

1053
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:38.119
<v Speaker 2>because if there's seventy thirty, which and that's maybe once

1054
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:40.000
<v Speaker 2>you play like Sweet Caroline, I think it's a perfect

1055
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:42.840
<v Speaker 2>song for that, you know, blah everybody gets into it

1056
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:44.800
<v Speaker 2>stuff that kind of And now I'm really sure on

1057
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:46.880
<v Speaker 2>my age, but but I get it. I get the

1058
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:48.920
<v Speaker 2>warm up music and all that stuff when they're out

1059
00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:50.760
<v Speaker 2>there because it's the kids are The kids are the.

1060
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:52.400
<v Speaker 3>Ones that probably take that pick the music too.

1061
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:54.559
<v Speaker 4>The players, like you know with baseball players, they have

1062
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:57.760
<v Speaker 4>their walk up music and time like I had no

1063
00:45:57.800 --> 00:45:59.800
<v Speaker 4>idea what the song some country song or.

1064
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:02.920
<v Speaker 2>The team up some of that music. Yeah, because you know,

1065
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:04.800
<v Speaker 2>they say some pretty raunchy stuff.

1066
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:08.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you gotta be careful and I'm sure. Yeah, if

1067
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:10.280
<v Speaker 4>they have something does come out that's not good. Yeah,

1068
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:11.199
<v Speaker 4>you have able to hear about it.

1069
00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:13.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah yeah, Hey, well what did you just say, Beldrid?

1070
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:19.239
<v Speaker 3>What does that? What does that mean? I don't know. Uh,

1071
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.280
<v Speaker 3>you go to the games, don't you? Yeah? I go

1072
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:24.039
<v Speaker 3>to a few. I only went to the Duke game

1073
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:26.800
<v Speaker 3>so far. Okay, Yeah, you're a front runner. Same with me,

1074
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:28.400
<v Speaker 3>both front runners.

1075
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:30.679
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to go to the punishment of the

1076
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:32.079
<v Speaker 2>Southern YouTube's coming.

1077
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:35.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh wait, when's that Samford game for what's okay?

1078
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:38.679
<v Speaker 3>We got duke? What duke in Stamford? No? No, no, I'm sorry. Yeah,

1079
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:39.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean you still.

1080
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:44.960
<v Speaker 4>A cla Sanford, Central Michigan Christmas and then come back.

1081
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:51.159
<v Speaker 2>To TCUBRA when Central Michigan December twenty first.

1082
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:54.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh so okay, so we got about nick Saturday a

1083
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:54.960
<v Speaker 3>week from Saturday.

1084
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:59.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so they can squeeze in guys because school's ending, right, like.

1085
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:02.599
<v Speaker 3>Yes, this week I'm leaving. There'sday finals. Are we in

1086
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:03.920
<v Speaker 3>finals week or no?

1087
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:04.280
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

1088
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:10.079
<v Speaker 3>Technically ends the fifteenth for most people. Oh okay, okay, cool.

1089
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:12.079
<v Speaker 3>There was always a good time on campus when we

1090
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:14.760
<v Speaker 3>want to clear out. Yeah, around campus so you can

1091
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:15.480
<v Speaker 3>drive through it.

1092
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:17.639
<v Speaker 4>Exactly, go to a restaurant, going student union, don't have

1093
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:19.239
<v Speaker 4>to stand on line for twenty minutes.

1094
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:21.159
<v Speaker 2>Right, God, I haven't walked in that area for a

1095
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:23.719
<v Speaker 2>long time. But it's totally different than when you were

1096
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:26.320
<v Speaker 2>when you first got here. You got here in eighty

1097
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:29.000
<v Speaker 2>three in what way? Oh just the buildings, Oh, just

1098
00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:32.280
<v Speaker 2>the buildings when they had what year was the Revenge

1099
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:32.800
<v Speaker 2>of the Nerds.

1100
00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:33.639
<v Speaker 3>About that time.

1101
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:35.800
<v Speaker 2>It was like eighty four, Yeah, eighty three, dy four,

1102
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:37.480
<v Speaker 2>whatever it was, you had just got here. I got

1103
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:39.320
<v Speaker 2>here in eighty seven, and that was kind of like

1104
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:41.519
<v Speaker 2>the claim the fame on campus.

1105
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:45.440
<v Speaker 4>We were It's a long story, but yeah, you're right,

1106
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:47.000
<v Speaker 4>it was. I was around that time. We had some

1107
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:50.239
<v Speaker 4>people at Kegun who actually were in the movie. There

1108
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:52.199
<v Speaker 4>were a few movies in that stretch. There was Camp,

1109
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:54.480
<v Speaker 4>Buy Me Love, Yeah, which a shot of Tucson.

1110
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:56.159
<v Speaker 3>Eighty seven, eighty seven. I got here on that.

1111
00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:59.800
<v Speaker 4>And then Nerds, and there was a couple others. People

1112
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:02.519
<v Speaker 4>can calling and chime in, well, Major Quick in the Dead.

1113
00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:07.639
<v Speaker 4>That was the Sharon Stone movie with Gene Hackman with Yeah,

1114
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:10.719
<v Speaker 4>Lenny Lenny. Yeah, if you were Toro's fan, you remember

1115
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:13.840
<v Speaker 4>Lenny and his cigar. He's got that one cameo. It's

1116
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:17.599
<v Speaker 4>perfect with the gun, with the gun. Yeah, that was

1117
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:19.679
<v Speaker 4>a great time. They It was a pre you know

1118
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:21.280
<v Speaker 4>if you've been to high core. But it doesn't look

1119
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:23.360
<v Speaker 4>like that anymore. The colors were all the old Tucson

1120
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:26.559
<v Speaker 4>Toro's colors, so they switched things up when the Rockies

1121
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:29.559
<v Speaker 4>kind of took over in ninety three and turned it

1122
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:32.519
<v Speaker 4>into like cors Field with the same colors, but back

1123
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:34.039
<v Speaker 4>in the day it was kind of that blue and

1124
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:38.880
<v Speaker 4>yellow and kind of distinctive colors.

1125
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:41.559
<v Speaker 2>Did you And I had Mike here last Simon and

1126
00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:42.840
<v Speaker 2>we were talking about covering the team.

1127
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:45.760
<v Speaker 3>I hated going to cover the team, did you really?

1128
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Some of the guys were jerks, and when you had

1129
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:51.079
<v Speaker 2>to go early do interviews since to the game, which

1130
00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:53.079
<v Speaker 2>the game was torture, yeah, and then maybe going to

1131
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Lakametro loss because they lost a lot to it was

1132
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:56.840
<v Speaker 2>not fun to go to.

1133
00:48:57.039 --> 00:48:59.199
<v Speaker 4>Well, you had a different job too than than what

1134
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:01.079
<v Speaker 4>we had. We we would do things a lot of

1135
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:03.280
<v Speaker 4>times before the game. We would that's when we would

1136
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:04.719
<v Speaker 4>get a chance to talk to them. We do live

1137
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:07.000
<v Speaker 4>reports and we'd have a live guest or we'd interview

1138
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:08.639
<v Speaker 4>them just before the game and go that route and

1139
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:11.480
<v Speaker 4>didn't have to stick around, you know, for you know,

1140
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:14.880
<v Speaker 4>three hours of baseball unless it was playoff time or

1141
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:17.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, some other reason where we had to talk

1142
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:18.079
<v Speaker 4>to them afterwards.

1143
00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:20.039
<v Speaker 3>Usually we weren't covering it that way, so it was

1144
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:20.679
<v Speaker 3>different for us.

1145
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:23.519
<v Speaker 2>So Sabrina worked for you, right, Was she one of

1146
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:25.679
<v Speaker 2>the first female sports people.

1147
00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:29.039
<v Speaker 3>We thought so, but there might have been some people

1148
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:29.679
<v Speaker 3>before her.

1149
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:32.599
<v Speaker 4>But at the time, and again that was a during

1150
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:34.800
<v Speaker 4>the Toros run when they won those two chances.

1151
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:36.400
<v Speaker 3>Did Mike talk about that?

1152
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:37.920
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, But I just thinking about it now because

1153
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:40.079
<v Speaker 2>I remember her doing some of the thinkers she was.

1154
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:42.400
<v Speaker 4>I think she was live at the stadium the night

1155
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:43.800
<v Speaker 4>they won. I don't know if it was the first

1156
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:46.039
<v Speaker 4>or the second. I'd have to ask her or Mike

1157
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:48.880
<v Speaker 4>Fader because they're the ones that were kind of documenting

1158
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:49.400
<v Speaker 4>those years.

1159
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:50.119
<v Speaker 3>But she was great.

1160
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.320
<v Speaker 4>She was you know, she knew her sports, big big

1161
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:55.960
<v Speaker 4>basketball player at Oregon. I didn't know what she loved.

1162
00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:58.239
<v Speaker 4>You know, she loved basketball, she loved covering. I mean again,

1163
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:00.519
<v Speaker 4>she was right with me during the A day of

1164
00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:04.239
<v Speaker 4>I think she took over in ninety so we passed,

1165
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:06.199
<v Speaker 4>you know, that first final four, but I think she

1166
00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:08.360
<v Speaker 4>was still she was still with me in ninety four.

1167
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:10.400
<v Speaker 4>Maybe ninety seven is when she left.

1168
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:13.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So so I only asked because I remember her

1169
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:16.280
<v Speaker 2>doing those games and I should have her on our

1170
00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:18.800
<v Speaker 2>streasure because she's married to a former ULA basketball player.

1171
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:24.280
<v Speaker 3>So how was it was there? How was we gotta go?

1172
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:26.559
<v Speaker 2>We got about a minute, right, what was the reaction

1173
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:29.159
<v Speaker 2>a female sports txtes?

1174
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:34.400
<v Speaker 4>She was a good sport I think people really, they

1175
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:36.760
<v Speaker 4>were fine even in those years. It wasn't like, oh yeah,

1176
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:38.159
<v Speaker 4>I shouldn't know she's talking about.

1177
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:38.559
<v Speaker 3>It right right.

1178
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:40.639
<v Speaker 4>We had she had to convince our bosses that she

1179
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:41.239
<v Speaker 4>wanted to do it.

1180
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:41.679
<v Speaker 3>I remember.

1181
00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:44.840
<v Speaker 4>So we had Brad Steinkey before him, yeah, before her,

1182
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:47.639
<v Speaker 4>you know, and he left kind of kind of left

1183
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:50.480
<v Speaker 4>his you know, with a decision to make, and she

1184
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:52.760
<v Speaker 4>stepped forward. She you know, she kind of she was

1185
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:54.880
<v Speaker 4>there already. She was already there. She and I started.

1186
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:55.920
<v Speaker 4>She was there before me.

1187
00:50:56.159 --> 00:50:56.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh really. Yeah.

1188
00:50:57.039 --> 00:50:59.360
<v Speaker 4>In fact, when I did my she was doing news

1189
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:02.239
<v Speaker 4>and then she did health news. Maybe that was after

1190
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:04.559
<v Speaker 4>she did sports. But anyway, she had a good run

1191
00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:09.159
<v Speaker 4>before I would say, maybe six or seven years on

1192
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:11.800
<v Speaker 4>k GUN before she stepped into the sports role.

1193
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:13.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we gotta go, we gotta go.

1194
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:14.559
<v Speaker 2>We'll come back, get some breaking news and talk more

1195
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:15.199
<v Speaker 2>about all this stuff.

1196
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:15.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay,
