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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's nick coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>Quick reminder before we get the five o'clock hours started,

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<v Speaker 2>We've got you covered on.

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<v Speaker 3>Game day, last last, well not the last.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what bowl game louis is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be in or what anything is going to look like

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<v Speaker 2>at that point, but the last regular season game day

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<v Speaker 2>for us is coming up this Saturday. Therefore, our pregame

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<v Speaker 2>coverage we'll start at eleven am the Louisville Football Pre

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<v Speaker 3>Eleven to noon.

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<v Speaker 2>Noon, of course, is kickoff, and then whatever happens, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>react to it right here on Sports Talk seven ninety

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<v Speaker 2>for the Louisville Football postgame Show, presented by Alex R.

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<v Speaker 2>Why Lawyer's suits to driver dot com So Kentucky, Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>currently three and a half point favorite on the card side,

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<v Speaker 2>and Jeff Brahm. He talked earlier today's press conference and

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<v Speaker 2>was asked sort of about this, you know, the obvious,

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<v Speaker 2>this rivalry. Obviously, he's a coach that doesn't need to

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<v Speaker 2>be taught or told how how this, how this is

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<v Speaker 2>such a big deal. He's well aware, but he's part

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<v Speaker 2>of it, and doesn't you know, doesn't mean he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>give you any real advantage. I think in a way

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<v Speaker 2>it can actually make you. If anything, it wouldn't shock

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<v Speaker 2>me if it gives you some kind of a disadvantage,

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<v Speaker 2>because maybe you overthink it a little bit. Not saying

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<v Speaker 2>that Jeff will do that. I'm not saying that that's

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<v Speaker 2>what happened last year, But nonetheless it's he knows how

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<v Speaker 2>big of a deal it is for everybody around here, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>given the desire to get that cup back here, can

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<v Speaker 2>you even enjoy Thanksgiving dinner like with your family?

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<v Speaker 3>Is your mind going to be like on X's and

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<v Speaker 3>O's elsewhere?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, we have the normal invite the family,

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<v Speaker 4>advice to the whole extended family, hoigh households, and I've

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<v Speaker 4>already been thinking of pun excuses to use that I

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<v Speaker 4>can't make it because I don't know how much of

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<v Speaker 4>a good mood I'll be in. But in the end,

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<v Speaker 4>you got to be able to, you know, enjoy some

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<v Speaker 4>company every now and then. But no, this week it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be all about you know, trying to win

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<v Speaker 4>this game. And I would definitely make sure that all

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<v Speaker 4>the time energy is spent on preparing for this game

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<v Speaker 4>and to making sure our team gets ready to play.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, that's my job. And we have one

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<v Speaker 4>more regular season game to play and we need to

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<v Speaker 4>you know, prepare well and play well. So I hope

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<v Speaker 4>everyone enjoys Thanksgiving, but I'll possibly enjoy it after Thanksgivings

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<v Speaker 4>over and after the game, you know, down in the future.

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<v Speaker 4>But definitely it will help if if we win the game.

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<v Speaker 2>So Eric Crawford was just on the fly, as most do,

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<v Speaker 2>just trying to quickly share quotes from Jeff Brown's press

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<v Speaker 2>conference without you know, having a transcript or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And if he really needed a sign that Kentucky fans

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<v Speaker 2>are looking for some kind of extra added motivation to

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<v Speaker 2>fire him up, you know, Louisville to give him some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of some kind of bulletin board material because again,

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<v Speaker 2>like their season, I mean, I would imagine they're, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're pretty defeated. But what what Eric had said, which

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<v Speaker 2>has since been deleted, he initially he initially said that

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Brohm said that he probably you know, can I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to find the Actually, let me just back up here.

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<v Speaker 3>This is this is there's one word.

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<v Speaker 2>That he got wrong that did make it sound as

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<v Speaker 2>if Jeff was just presumed, you know, just assuming his

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<v Speaker 2>team was going to be winning, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, prepare well and play well. So I hope everyone

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<v Speaker 4>enjoys Thanksgiving, but I'll possibly enjoy it after.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll possibly enjoy it after Eric said probably, which

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<v Speaker 2>it led to Matt putting that out there into the

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<v Speaker 2>big blue bozo worlds. I mean, just like, oh, he's

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<v Speaker 2>already saying they're gonna win, which you know, that would

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<v Speaker 2>I guess indicate that he thinks they're gonna win. But

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't say that, he said possibly. So Eric did

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<v Speaker 2>delete the initial tweet and corrected himself, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>just I'm not surprised, Like Kentucky has had a very

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<v Speaker 2>rough season to where they're limping into this game, probably

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<v Speaker 2>in a worse spot than they've been in in a

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<v Speaker 2>long long time in the Governor's Cup. Now they've got

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<v Speaker 2>recency on their side. They've won this game every year

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<v Speaker 2>it's been played since twenty seventeen. But they just went

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<v Speaker 2>one and seven and finished alone in fifteenth place out

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<v Speaker 2>of sixteen teams in the SEC. They didn't beat a

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<v Speaker 2>team in the SEC at home this year. They did

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<v Speaker 2>beat Ohio and they beat Ole Miss, and those two

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<v Speaker 2>teams are Bowl eligible. That's probably the best thing you

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<v Speaker 2>can say about him. I mean, Lane Kiffin in Ole Miss,

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<v Speaker 2>they crapt the bed with that loss to Florida on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>So the other two wins Kentucky has, who Murray and

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<v Speaker 2>Southern Miss. I mean, I think their combined record is

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<v Speaker 2>one and ten. So again, like there's really not any

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<v Speaker 2>thing on paper, any specific result or stat that can

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<v Speaker 2>make Kentucky fans feel good about this matchup other than

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that they have done really well in this

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<v Speaker 2>series recently, and i think because of that in previous

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<v Speaker 2>years where they've not been very good or maybe not

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<v Speaker 2>as good as they thought they would be, they were

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<v Speaker 2>still able to come out and beat Louisville. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure they're hoping and assuming, maybe some of them are

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<v Speaker 2>assuming that that's what's going to happen on Saturday. But

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<v Speaker 2>the better chance for what's going to give them a

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<v Speaker 2>better chance to essentially come out and act like the

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<v Speaker 2>last eleven games didn't happen, And it's a one game season,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know the season's been underwhelming. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>can finish strong and beat Louisville in a year where

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<v Speaker 2>you hate your team and you were this bad, but

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<v Speaker 2>you still beat your rival again, what's going to give

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<v Speaker 2>you a better chance of like really having a fresh

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<v Speaker 2>start is starting a different quarterback. And that's what Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Stoops decided to do. He announced that today, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a it's a because again you're not. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a hard time thinking that. And maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I hope I'm wrong. Maybe this young kid

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<v Speaker 2>does come out here and it's too big of a

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<v Speaker 2>moment and he starts throwing the ball to the other

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<v Speaker 2>team like they'd be great. But you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's talented enough. And you know, Brock Vandergriff wasn't going

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<v Speaker 2>to do anything for you at that spot specifically that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to make you that much better, right, Like he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't terrible this year, but he really wasn't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he was at best, he was just not a not

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<v Speaker 2>a weakness. Like I don't think there were many times

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<v Speaker 2>this year where, like you thought, at quarterback, Kentucky had

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that man, Really glad we have him. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think there was really ever many moments at all

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<v Speaker 2>like that. I mean, the two passes he had against

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<v Speaker 2>Murray State, one that was picked off, one that ended

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<v Speaker 2>up in a touchdown, that was one of the worst

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<v Speaker 2>throws he's probably ever had. Like that kind of tells

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<v Speaker 2>you where he is with his arm right now. So

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<v Speaker 2>some will say that it makes it makes sense just

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<v Speaker 2>because Brock has has been bad lately, But I think

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<v Speaker 2>it makes sense because it does give you the most,

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<v Speaker 2>the best, the best chance to be able to go

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<v Speaker 2>out there offensively and just kind of become a new team.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you saw it against Texas. Those guys started playing

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<v Speaker 2>with a little bit more juice with the freshman out

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<v Speaker 2>there and not Brock vandergriff And I've never felt like Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 2>really it is any level was as bad as they

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<v Speaker 2>were this year because of personnel. In fact, quarterback play

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<v Speaker 2>might have been one of their weaknesses. To be honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you, I don't I don't know if I know

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<v Speaker 2>enough to say that confidently. But at receiver, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they've got talent. Those guys have been good for years

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<v Speaker 2>and in any moment they can make a big play

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not going to shock you. At running back,

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<v Speaker 2>they've been really thin, but some of the guys that

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<v Speaker 2>probably were not they weren't super confident that they had

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<v Speaker 2>to rely on, have ended up at times being pretty

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<v Speaker 2>productive for him. Defensively, Clearly they've they've taken a step

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<v Speaker 2>back from what Mark Stoops typically has, but it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Not because of talent.

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<v Speaker 2>They got guys in the NF They got guys on

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<v Speaker 2>that defense that again, we're part of this one and

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<v Speaker 2>seven sec team four and seven as we speak, that

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna play in the NFL. So if they turn

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<v Speaker 2>it on and they play well like, it's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to shock me, which is why I've said throughout the

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<v Speaker 2>show today, here and there, there really isn't a result

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<v Speaker 2>that could happen on Saturday that I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 2>totally surprised by. I wish I could tell you differently,

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<v Speaker 2>And again, maybe I'm wrong, like maybe the only I

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<v Speaker 2>mean again, we'll find out on Saturday, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just know that Kentucky is a team that

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<v Speaker 2>is better than the record shows, and in fact, I

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<v Speaker 2>hate that saying, so let me retract. They don't have

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<v Speaker 2>the record they have because they don't have any good

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<v Speaker 2>players because you are. You're as good as your record

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<v Speaker 2>says you are. I mean, that's a fact. You're a

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<v Speaker 2>one and seven football team.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what you did.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the results you put out there. Now again, you

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<v Speaker 2>should have been better. Therefore, if you play better, you

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<v Speaker 2>will not look like a team that went one in

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<v Speaker 2>seven in league play. So because of that, like, I

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<v Speaker 2>know they're capable as far as having the ability to

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<v Speaker 2>go out there and beat Louisville at home. I know

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville has had a better year. I know Louisville is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the deserving favorite here, and I think they've

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<v Speaker 2>got really good players. I think Louislle's roster at certain spots, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they've got talent. And that's why I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of feel like this football season may end up being

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<v Speaker 2>a what could have been here because I think you've

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<v Speaker 2>got some guys out there making plays that you're gonna realize, Man,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish we would have had a better season with

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<v Speaker 2>that guy or this guy. Maybe when you see these

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<v Speaker 2>guys playing in the NFL. So, like I know Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel I feel better about Louisville's ceiling than I

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<v Speaker 2>have in a long time. And I mean even going

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<v Speaker 2>back to like Lamar's year here when he won Heisman,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was wrong that team ended up kind of imploding,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I felt the ceiling was pretty happen, but

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<v Speaker 2>you had a lot of felt like you had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of talent on that team. I'm not comparing the

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<v Speaker 2>two teams at all, but like I feel like Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>right now, like if they play well, I think they

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<v Speaker 2>can beat maybe not anybody in the country, but a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of teams. I'll never know that, So maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>just wishful thinking on minad, maybe it's delusion, but like

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<v Speaker 2>I think Louisville has some good talent, especially on offense,

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<v Speaker 2>but I also know they can go and lose to

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<v Speaker 2>Stanford the way that they did. Therefore, like I can'tsider

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<v Speaker 2>and tell you that if Louisville makes those kind of mistakes,

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<v Speaker 2>play sloppy football and they lose to Kentucky in the ultimate, like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>how could you lose that? Like I'd be devastated, But

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say I'd be that surprised. And it's not

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm telling you that, Like, well, I don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>How weird this year has been, Like I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>biggest surprise would be Kentucky winning this thing handily, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you would you would be right. They haven't lost

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<v Speaker 2>first time they've probably done that all year.

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<v Speaker 2>Played Georgia competitively, but like they had the ugly and

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<v Speaker 2>again credit to them, but that wasn't like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>was where you thought, Okay, that lost to South Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>was an outlier. We played Georgia competitively. We just beat

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<v Speaker 2>Ole miss here we go, and then from there they

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that those two have any you know, connection,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was kind of funny how that became like

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<v Speaker 2>a Friday Patino's in town. He's showing up rubbing elbows

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<v Speaker 2>with Eddie Grant and Mark Stoops on the sideline, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they didn't win another game outside of Merched Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's how it played out, and it was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of beautiful, to be honest with you. But anyways, back

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<v Speaker 2>to the quarterback situation. Cutter Bowley, he came in against

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<v Speaker 2>Texas and made a couple of impressive plays. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's always been believed to be a guy that has

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of upside. Was a really big time recruit

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<v Speaker 2>here in the state of Kentucky. Committed pretty early, I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>in the process. But he came in, was ten of eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and sixty yards, did have an interception and

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<v Speaker 2>didn't throw a touchdown. But you know, you could tell

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody on the text line asked this, and they're not

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<v Speaker 2>they're not. They maybe they may be onto something. But

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<v Speaker 2>because he's new, because he's the backup, and because they

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<v Speaker 2>were so bad as a team with Brocas the guy,

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<v Speaker 2>that Kentucky fans are lying to themselves and saying that,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is a big upgrade, And you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>there's some truth to that, because the backup quarterback is

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<v Speaker 2>always really popular whenever the starter is not getting your results.

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<v Speaker 2>Or maybe this guy, you know, becomes a phenom for them,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not maybe not nationally, but like maybe he.

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<v Speaker 3>In his first career starts, in his first career start gives.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, memory to their fan base that makes him

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<v Speaker 2>somebody they never forget, regardless of what happens outside of

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<v Speaker 2>this game. I mean, a true freshman at quarterback making

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<v Speaker 2>his first career start in the Governor's Cup game. I

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<v Speaker 2>would not be shocked if that's never happened before. But

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<v Speaker 2>then again, because it used to be the first game

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<v Speaker 2>of the season, maybe it has happened. But again, freshman,

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<v Speaker 2>true freshman starting at quarterback, you know, in an opener

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<v Speaker 2>is really rare for anybody to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>So I kind of feel like this is a first

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<v Speaker 2>and again it's another reminder to me that Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought last year was it.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought last year was the year where I'd be

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<v Speaker 2>able to say, look, no matter how many more losses

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<v Speaker 2>or how bad they are, when it comes to Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>losing to Kentucky and the Governor's Cup, none will be

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<v Speaker 2>worse than this as far as just like man, you

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<v Speaker 2>had it. They weren't even very good that it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>play that well. You kept the you know, you kept

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<v Speaker 2>the door open long enough. They had the special team's touchdown,

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<v Speaker 2>which really deflated Louisville. They had Ray Davis out there

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<v Speaker 2>running through people and you just couldn't get it done

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<v Speaker 2>and you lost.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that sucked.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think we are here a year later where

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<v Speaker 2>I think the scenario where if you lose to them,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's actually worse because Louisll's not as I

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<v Speaker 2>mean louis a little bit and have the record that

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<v Speaker 2>they had a year ago. They're not going to the

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<v Speaker 2>a SEC Championship game. But actually think they're a better

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<v Speaker 2>team in Kentucky. You know, they were kind of limping

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<v Speaker 2>into the game last year with that bad loss to

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<v Speaker 2>South Carolina, but then you know, they come out and

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<v Speaker 2>played well and beat you. This year, they're they're at

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<v Speaker 2>a level they've really never been under Stoops as far

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<v Speaker 2>as just I mean fans questioning should he still be

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<v Speaker 2>the coach now? That was happening I guess maybe earlier

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<v Speaker 2>on in its tenure, before he broke through and started

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<v Speaker 2>making bowl games. But this year they're struggling, to put

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<v Speaker 2>it lightly, and it really isn't because of their Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>Like you used to be able to just say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you gonna do? It's Kentucky football, and to

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<v Speaker 2>be fair to Stoops, like he did change that a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, but now you know, within IL, you really

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<v Speaker 2>can't claim that you're gonna always be behind because you're Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Kentucky has good in io resources with the football stops.

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<v Speaker 2>Its done a good job when it comes to that.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why, like this year, they're not one and

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<v Speaker 2>seven in the SEC because of talent, because the roster

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<v Speaker 2>was terrible. So when he says it is his press

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<v Speaker 2>conference today that they've never been in a better spot

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<v Speaker 2>within IL when it comes to fixing the roster, that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably something a lot of coaches in that same situation

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<v Speaker 2>would say. But your roster wasn't why you were this bad. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you went out and paid a lot of money

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<v Speaker 2>and got some talent, but they don't fit your identity

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<v Speaker 2>as a program. They were, you know, maybe not buying

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<v Speaker 2>in the way want them to buy in. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but this is the first time Stoops

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<v Speaker 2>had a really bad year, and there was no excuse

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<v Speaker 2>for it to be anywhere near as bad as it was.

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<v Speaker 2>But as we know, if they beat Louisville on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll still finish five and seven and it'll be an

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<v Speaker 2>underwhelming season for them as far as what their expectations were.

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<v Speaker 2>But if there's one way to get Stoops to get

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<v Speaker 2>these fans to buy back in and claim that he

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<v Speaker 2>should still be the coach moving forward long term, you

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<v Speaker 2>beat Louisville, it'll happen. I mean, I could be wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>but I know what this rivalry game does emotionally on

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<v Speaker 2>both sides.

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<v Speaker 3>If you win it or you.

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<v Speaker 2>Lose it, it feels better then it probably should when

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<v Speaker 2>you win it, But when you lose it, it sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's demoralizing. And I've said this about the rivalry before

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<v Speaker 2>the joy of beating your rival is great, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat of like a At times it feels like it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of what you're supposed to do because hey, you're

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<v Speaker 2>better and you and you feel like you know you're better,

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, of course we want you. May it probably

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<v Speaker 2>feels better than maybe you act at times. But like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I still think the the the hit that

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<v Speaker 2>you get, let me, yes, the high that you get

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<v Speaker 2>from beating your rival is not as is not as

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<v Speaker 2>strong of an emotional thing as the low of losing

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<v Speaker 2>to your rival. And I guess it depends upon circumstance,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like if both teams are good and you

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<v Speaker 2>play and you lose, then you know, maybe it's a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit different. But the way this is set up,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Kentucky again, like they don't they wouldn't tell

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<v Speaker 2>you they think they're team's any good. And if they

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<v Speaker 2>say that, believe that, and then they beat Louisville, like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be it's gonna be brutal. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what Mark Stoops had to say about his decision

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<v Speaker 2>UH to to make a change at starting quarterback and

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<v Speaker 2>he's now going with the UH with the true freshman.

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<v Speaker 5>Had a lot of poise in the pocket. I thought

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<v Speaker 5>he distributed the football uh, you know, had the vision

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<v Speaker 5>to hit open receivers, you know, the arm strength to

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<v Speaker 5>get the ball down the field on a second play.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you saw a lot of good things. Even

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<v Speaker 5>the play that was called back for a hold, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>an all out pressure, he gave some ground through it

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<v Speaker 5>to an open area. You know, completed a very difficult

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<v Speaker 5>pass there. So I thought he did some really good things.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, he deserves the opportunity to get a

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<v Speaker 5>start here this week.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think this was the move that most Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>fans wanted. And I don't blame him again. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was a bright move by Stoops, not only just

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<v Speaker 2>because it might make the team better, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>think your best chance of kind of eliminating some of

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<v Speaker 2>the stinch that has come eleven weeks in would be

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<v Speaker 2>to go with a new quarterback, a guy who really

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<v Speaker 2>is in charge of kind of you know, he's running

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<v Speaker 2>the offense, he's leading the show. And if you're out

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<v Speaker 2>there with a new guy doing it and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>the same guy that you you know, were out there with,

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<v Speaker 2>that helped you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say it was all block Vandergriff's fault, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think everybody knows they didn't lose any games because the

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<v Speaker 2>Cutter Bowl he didn't play well. Now he is. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can have a better mindset of like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, that's all on the past. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>new season now. I hope it doesn't work, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>certainly worth a shot, because you know, you're not a

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<v Speaker 2>worst team without Brock Vandergriff's arm out there. Now, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>there's some freshman mistakes and this guy coughs it up

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<v Speaker 2>in the pocket, maybe he throws a bad interception, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you could say that Vandergriff wouldn't have had you know,

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have had the same you know, youthful mistake. But

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<v Speaker 2>I forget at times that Brock Vandergriff, all these dudes

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<v Speaker 2>who transferred quarterback, like I just assume they're on their

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<v Speaker 2>six or seventh year, because that's what it seems like

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of these guys, including Louis' quarterback Tyler Shuck. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>Brock Vandergriff, he has one more sec win as a

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<v Speaker 2>starting quarterback than Cutter Bowley because Brock Vandergriff never started

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<v Speaker 2>a game at Georgia and never played and a Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>he really got his first taste of experience as a

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<v Speaker 2>starter this year and it went terrible. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there may be some that say, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>hey risky here, How risky is it? Cutter Bowley doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>even like he hasn't even went through games making big

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<v Speaker 2>mistakes that are crucial that help you lose games. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's coming out fresh, so you know, it makes total sense. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully he doesn't work out for him, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>at all surprised. That's the that's the decision.

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<v Speaker 3>That they made.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's do this. Let's take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll come back on the other side. Talk a little basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville and Indiana coming up on Wednesday in the Battle

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<v Speaker 2>for Atlantis. It's the first game, so we can talk

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit about that. Also, very very crazy weekend

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<v Speaker 2>of college football on Saturday. As far as predicting what

419
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<v Speaker 2>the committee with the playoff committee's going to do or

420
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<v Speaker 2>maybe not do, we can certainly get.

421
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<v Speaker 3>Into that as well. So stick with us.

422
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<v Speaker 2>It's Coffee and Company. We are fuel about Thornton's right

423
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<v Speaker 2>here on Sports Talk seven ninety. We're just in our

424
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<v Speaker 2>own world over here, which you know, that's what We're

425
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<v Speaker 2>supposed to do right and not get distracted by what's

426
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<v Speaker 2>going on outside the show, keep our attention and focus

427
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<v Speaker 2>on the show that we're doing here. But I feel

428
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<v Speaker 2>completely left out. Did you know that Memphis just beat

429
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<v Speaker 2>Yukon in the malle invitation?

430
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<v Speaker 6>I heard the Fox Sports radio update that that was

431
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<v Speaker 6>coming down to the wire.

432
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<v Speaker 2>Memphis beat him ninety nine and ninety seven. Wow, in overtime.

433
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<v Speaker 2>So Dan Hurley loses a game for the first time

434
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<v Speaker 2>in a long time. I think the last loss they

435
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<v Speaker 2>had was a loss where they actually got blown out.

436
00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:22.359
<v Speaker 2>It was against Creighton in midway through big Big East

437
00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:24.359
<v Speaker 2>play last year, before of course turning it on and

438
00:20:24.680 --> 00:20:27.279
<v Speaker 2>doing what they do going on to win a national championship.

439
00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:30.279
<v Speaker 2>So how about Penny Hardaway. You know, his best teams

440
00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:33.119
<v Speaker 2>have always ended up being and he hasn't had many

441
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<v Speaker 2>good ones, but his best teams have always been the

442
00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:38.839
<v Speaker 2>ones where the roster it doesn't look all that special.

443
00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:42.920
<v Speaker 2>And there's more noise about Pennies. I mean, look, they

444
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<v Speaker 2>had a complete coaching change. Everybody on his staff gone

445
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<v Speaker 2>right before the season started, which is not normal. And again,

446
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<v Speaker 2>like things have not been good for Penny in any

447
00:20:53.680 --> 00:20:56.480
<v Speaker 2>way in the last year or so, and yet he

448
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<v Speaker 2>just comes out and knocks off. I mean, that's a

449
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<v Speaker 2>big win for them. They're now five. Yukon will be fine.

450
00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:04.440
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, there was a three at the end of

451
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<v Speaker 2>regulation that Yukon hit to tie it up. So Yukon

452
00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:11.279
<v Speaker 2>tied it up, took it to overtime. I would imagine

453
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<v Speaker 2>it probably felt like, Okay, Yukon survives here because they're

454
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<v Speaker 2>gonna go to ot and they're the better team and

455
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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna they're gonna pull through. But actually think it's

456
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<v Speaker 2>even more impressive to know that Penny Hardaway and Memphis

457
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<v Speaker 2>we're able to get it, get it done in overtime.

458
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<v Speaker 2>So some really good games. That's why this week is

459
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<v Speaker 2>great because you've got Thanksgiving. Nobody's really you know, most

460
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<v Speaker 2>people are not working this week. Even if you were

461
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<v Speaker 2>going to work, you're probably not doing a lot of work.

462
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<v Speaker 2>And I get it because it's it's Thanksgiving week. You've

463
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<v Speaker 2>got a big weekend of football coming up. It's really

464
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<v Speaker 2>going to impact the college Fooball playoff race, some rivalry

465
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<v Speaker 2>games across the country, including one right here.

466
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<v Speaker 3>In our state.

467
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<v Speaker 2>And then you've got daytime basketball, which is awesome. I mean,

468
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<v Speaker 2>that's been going on really since last week. But yeah,

469
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<v Speaker 2>the Maui Invitational getting started today and the first game

470
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<v Speaker 2>was not a result that I expected.

471
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<v Speaker 6>Real quick, you may not know the answer to this,

472
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<v Speaker 6>but who's who replaced Bill Walton on the calls in

473
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<v Speaker 6>Maui for a certain game?

474
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

475
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<v Speaker 2>I would imagine it's probably just their their their supporting

476
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<v Speaker 2>cast of college basketball folks.

477
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<v Speaker 3>I know billis is always there.

478
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<v Speaker 6>Maybe it's Jay Williams.

479
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<v Speaker 3>It might be. To be honest with you, wouldn't wouldn't shock.

480
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<v Speaker 6>As he does do some random games from time to time.

481
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<v Speaker 2>Maoi, Maui won't be the same without our man Bill Walton.

482
00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:19.680
<v Speaker 2>R IP college basketball is gonna gonna miss him this year,

483
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<v Speaker 2>especially at this event. All right, So sticking with uh

484
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<v Speaker 2>with with basketball really quickly here, what would you say

485
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<v Speaker 2>as of now would be what you feel the best

486
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<v Speaker 2>about Indiana and what would be your biggest concern about Indiana?

487
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<v Speaker 2>Because the Cards and the Hoosiers, by the way, they're

488
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<v Speaker 2>going to get the Battle for Atlanta started on Wednesday.

489
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<v Speaker 2>First game of that event will be at noon, and

490
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<v Speaker 2>we're going to go on the air as soon as

491
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<v Speaker 2>it ends, and we'll react to it, uh, and see

492
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<v Speaker 2>what happens. But obviously Indiana's going to be a favorite here.

493
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<v Speaker 2>But curious, best thing just think a little of or

494
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<v Speaker 2>just think of Indiana from your perspective.

495
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, just about Indiana best things so far is really

496
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<v Speaker 6>Mackenzie and Baccos jumped from one year from year one

497
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<v Speaker 6>to year two, and uh, then the first couple of games,

498
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<v Speaker 6>he was, without a doubt the best player on the

499
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<v Speaker 6>floor for Indiana, and then he got a little more

500
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<v Speaker 6>help in the against South Carolina, but he's he's had

501
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<v Speaker 6>consistent numbers through all four games, and he's definitely probably

502
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<v Speaker 6>the best early bright spot. You could also say Miles

503
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<v Speaker 6>Rice in the guard position for Indiana is something because

504
00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:19.079
<v Speaker 6>Indiana the last couple of years has had some very

505
00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:21.240
<v Speaker 6>lackluster guard play and to see that kind of take

506
00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:23.920
<v Speaker 6>a jump forward, that's something to be excited about, I

507
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<v Speaker 6>feel like. And then most concerning I heard you talking

508
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<v Speaker 6>about rebounding issues for Louisville. Indiana has also had some

509
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<v Speaker 6>rebounding issues of their own, and I feel like for

510
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<v Speaker 6>them it's I know exactly, it's more of a lack

511
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<v Speaker 6>of effort. One thing that I've noticed that's been disappointing

512
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<v Speaker 6>about Dumar Ballow is that he doesn't really have the motor,

513
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<v Speaker 6>at least he's not shown it so far. There's been

514
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<v Speaker 6>a couple of games where he's not really asserted himself

515
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<v Speaker 6>the way that I feel like.

516
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<v Speaker 2>There were some clips that made it online that might

517
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<v Speaker 2>make him look like the laziest guy out us. I

518
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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's just selective when he won, you know,

519
00:23:54.880 --> 00:23:57.559
<v Speaker 2>selective when it comes to playing hard, But there were

520
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<v Speaker 2>a couple of things where I'm like, damn, like he

521
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<v Speaker 2>didn't even and give a damn at all.

522
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<v Speaker 6>Like this might sound, I hate to say this. I

523
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<v Speaker 6>don't feel like I'm picking on Louisville, but I feel

524
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<v Speaker 6>like he needs to have a monster game against Louisville

525
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<v Speaker 6>because of the personnel that you all have that Louisville has.

526
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<v Speaker 3>I should say, you mean to.

527
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<v Speaker 2>Where like, you know, they could get him away from

528
00:24:13.119 --> 00:24:14.720
<v Speaker 2>the rim a little bit maybe kind of you know,

529
00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:16.920
<v Speaker 2>like Indiana, make him show that he can guards somebody.

530
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<v Speaker 2>Indiana should be able to take advantage of a matchup

531
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<v Speaker 2>difference right there. Yeah, But I also think, you know,

532
00:24:23.359 --> 00:24:25.920
<v Speaker 2>as Pat Kelsey always says, and I say that, like

533
00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:28.359
<v Speaker 2>he's been around here twenty years. But you know this

534
00:24:28.519 --> 00:24:31.000
<v Speaker 2>is going to be a line that well, I don't know,

535
00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:33.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe this is in his back pocket because he's

536
00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:35.680
<v Speaker 2>used it no matter where he's been coaching. But when

537
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<v Speaker 2>people have referenced the really tough schedule that he has

538
00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:40.240
<v Speaker 2>this year in the non conference, and anytime somebody will

539
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<v Speaker 2>talk about a specific matchup like Indiana, like Tennessee when

540
00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:45.680
<v Speaker 2>they came to town, you know, his initial his initial

541
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<v Speaker 2>response is, well, they got to play us too. And

542
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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's because you know, he thinks that

543
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<v Speaker 2>like they should be scared of Louisville or whoever he's

544
00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:54.799
<v Speaker 2>coaching when he's said that before, but it does kind

545
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<v Speaker 2>of like, yes, Ballow physically is just he's a bull

546
00:24:57.640 --> 00:24:59.079
<v Speaker 2>in a china shop. Like he's just I mean, how

547
00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:01.839
<v Speaker 2>big is he? I look right, I don't know about

548
00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:05.480
<v Speaker 2>his weight or he is. Let's see, Ballow is listed

549
00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:09.920
<v Speaker 2>at seven foot, two hundred and sixty five pounds. I

550
00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:12.440
<v Speaker 2>mean that's a big fella, and uh, he takes up

551
00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:15.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot of space. But what you can do, you know,

552
00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:18.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you're going to physically just limit him.

553
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:19.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean hopefully you just get a body on him.

554
00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:21.039
<v Speaker 2>And box him out and be as physical as you

555
00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:22.920
<v Speaker 2>can and hopefully he goes over the back, maybe picks

556
00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:25.440
<v Speaker 2>up some early bowels. But you could also use that

557
00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:27.799
<v Speaker 2>to your advantage. I would still think the advantage is

558
00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:29.279
<v Speaker 2>more so going to be on the Indiana side when

559
00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:31.200
<v Speaker 2>it comes to what you're doing in the front core.

560
00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:33.039
<v Speaker 2>But maybe you pull him away from the rim a

561
00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:35.039
<v Speaker 2>little bit because you've got guys like Cason Pryor that

562
00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:36.880
<v Speaker 2>are giving up a couple of inches and maybe one

563
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:39.279
<v Speaker 2>hundred pounds. But you know, if he's got to step

564
00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:40.839
<v Speaker 2>out and defend him, that could be to where he

565
00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:43.160
<v Speaker 2>may have trouble staying in front. So you know, I'm

566
00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:44.880
<v Speaker 2>not trying to act as if Indiana needs to be

567
00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:47.519
<v Speaker 2>worried about that, But whenever there is a mismatch, you

568
00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:50.480
<v Speaker 2>know clearly you you probably know which side you'd rather

569
00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:53.599
<v Speaker 2>be on as far as where there's an advantage. But

570
00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:58.039
<v Speaker 2>I worry about Louisville in this game. Well, let me

571
00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:00.000
<v Speaker 2>start with this. We have no clue how good little

572
00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:02.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that they're terrible. I don't think that

573
00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:06.200
<v Speaker 2>they're great, but the way this thing has played out,

574
00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:10.720
<v Speaker 2>you really just haven't had the chance to see them

575
00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:13.559
<v Speaker 2>tested other than one game, and that was a bad look,

576
00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:17.200
<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean I kind of felt like at

577
00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:19.240
<v Speaker 2>times they didn't belong on the same floor with Tennessee.

578
00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:24.559
<v Speaker 2>And I also know that they really couldn't replicate the

579
00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:26.960
<v Speaker 2>situation that Tennessee put them into, where they didn't even

580
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:29.160
<v Speaker 2>know how they'd respond, and now they do. Now they

581
00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:32.039
<v Speaker 2>saw what could happen in games against teams like that,

582
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:35.039
<v Speaker 2>and I would hope that they'll be much better prepared to,

583
00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:37.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, to make adjustments in game and figure out

584
00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:40.079
<v Speaker 2>what they want to get into offensively if they're not

585
00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:42.640
<v Speaker 2>able to just you know, get it in an up

586
00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:44.440
<v Speaker 2>tempo game where they get a lot of possessions and

587
00:26:44.440 --> 00:26:46.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot of good looks from three. And I think

588
00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:48.480
<v Speaker 2>they've been you know, they've they've had to kind of

589
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:50.720
<v Speaker 2>create some offense in the half court in the last

590
00:26:50.759 --> 00:26:53.079
<v Speaker 2>two games, and I've been pretty impressed at times with

591
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:54.720
<v Speaker 2>some of what these guys are doing. But again, doing

592
00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:57.359
<v Speaker 2>that against Bellerman and against Winthrop, I mean, you can't

593
00:26:57.359 --> 00:26:59.079
<v Speaker 2>do it against Indiana, But you just don't know, like

594
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:01.319
<v Speaker 2>it's just hard to to take really anything from those

595
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:05.119
<v Speaker 2>two games. So one reason why I'm you know, I

596
00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:06.920
<v Speaker 2>guess worry isn't even like the word like, I just

597
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:10.119
<v Speaker 2>I know one thing. I don't know how good they are.

598
00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:11.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how bad they are. I don't know

599
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:12.440
<v Speaker 2>what the record's gonna be. But I do know we're

600
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:14.559
<v Speaker 2>going to find out where they stand on Wednesday, just

601
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:17.599
<v Speaker 2>because they're playing a team that is much better than

602
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:20.799
<v Speaker 2>everybody they've played exhibitional, real game other than Tennessee.

603
00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:23.680
<v Speaker 3>So no clue what we're gonna get.

604
00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:25.799
<v Speaker 2>But if you're just gonna base it off of the

605
00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:27.640
<v Speaker 2>last time we saw them and the only time we've

606
00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:30.359
<v Speaker 2>seen them against legit competition, it wasn't a good performance,

607
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:33.400
<v Speaker 2>and you know, hopefully they've learned from that. But when

608
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:36.680
<v Speaker 2>it comes to the matchup here, I think Indiana likes

609
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:39.240
<v Speaker 2>playing the style that Louisville likes to play, and they've

610
00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:41.160
<v Speaker 2>got the personnel to do it. They've got long athletes.

611
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:44.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Imbaco himself is a really big mismatch for

612
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:45.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot of teams because I'm not really sure what

613
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.240
<v Speaker 2>position he is. You know, he can step outside, knock

614
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:51.480
<v Speaker 2>down shots. You know, he's a really skilled offensive player.

615
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:53.279
<v Speaker 2>He's not a great athlete, but it didn't need to be.

616
00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:56.519
<v Speaker 2>But he's athletic enough at guard. I mean Miles Rice,

617
00:27:56.920 --> 00:27:58.799
<v Speaker 2>I think because he played in the Pac twelve, he

618
00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:00.720
<v Speaker 2>wasn't really a no name to a lot of people,

619
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:02.079
<v Speaker 2>but when he hit the portal, a lot of guys

620
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:04.400
<v Speaker 2>wanted him, and he ended up at Indiana, and he's

621
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:06.519
<v Speaker 2>he's having a good start for him. He's averaging about

622
00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:10.039
<v Speaker 2>thirteen points I'm sorry, fourteen points, four and a half assists.

623
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:12.440
<v Speaker 6>I mean he's he's giving him a three point threat.

624
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:13.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, shoot six.

625
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:16.680
<v Speaker 2>He's shooting forty six percent from three. So you know,

626
00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Malik Renew, I mean, he's he's thirteen and six and

627
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:21.480
<v Speaker 2>a half right now. He's a guy that you know,

628
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:23.119
<v Speaker 2>he probably doesn't look that big when he's out there

629
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:25.680
<v Speaker 2>next to Bollow, but he's also a big physical presence

630
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:28.279
<v Speaker 2>that has been a really good rebounder throughout his entire career.

631
00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:32.279
<v Speaker 2>He's six nine two thirty two. So you know, my

632
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:35.519
<v Speaker 2>worry is that the game will be played at the

633
00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:39.400
<v Speaker 2>pace that favors Louisville Meeting, not favors them over Indiana,

634
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:42.200
<v Speaker 2>but like they're gonna have a chance to be at

635
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:45.799
<v Speaker 2>their best at this pace rather than a slow grind

636
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:47.880
<v Speaker 2>it out beat you up in the half court like

637
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Tennessee wanted to do. I just worry that Indiana may

638
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:54.039
<v Speaker 2>actually be able to do it a lot better because

639
00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:55.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's just no way to say this. I

640
00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:57.359
<v Speaker 2>don't mean to be it's not like I mean, I

641
00:28:57.440 --> 00:28:59.079
<v Speaker 2>just think and I think most most would agree. I

642
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:01.720
<v Speaker 2>just don't want to trigger somebody and make him think

643
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:03.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying this team stinks and we should just expect

644
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:06.759
<v Speaker 2>losses to anybody that you know, anybody that's from a

645
00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:08.839
<v Speaker 2>team that we've ever heard of. But like Indiana has

646
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:11.160
<v Speaker 2>got better talent. I mean, any has players that you

647
00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:13.960
<v Speaker 2>know are probably gonna play in the NBA. Now how long,

648
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But like McKenzie Imbaco is McDonald's American

649
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:19.480
<v Speaker 2>was a top ten player, Ballow don't really know what

650
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:21.480
<v Speaker 2>he was as a recruit, but he's proven at Arizona

651
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:24.799
<v Speaker 2>to be one of the better interior players in college basketball.

652
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:29.000
<v Speaker 2>And what's great about Ballow is he's given you thirteen

653
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:30.200
<v Speaker 2>a game or twelve a game.

654
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:30.920
<v Speaker 3>You don't even need.

655
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Him to score. If he does, it's great. But he's

656
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:34.640
<v Speaker 2>just a big physical presence that you know a lot

657
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:38.079
<v Speaker 2>of teams don't have. And outside of that, I mean

658
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:43.519
<v Speaker 2>they're getting pretty good balance. Eighteen from Embaco, fourteen from Rice,

659
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:47.240
<v Speaker 2>renews aage averaging thirteen a game, ballow Is at twelve,

660
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:49.319
<v Speaker 2>and then after that you got Bryce and Tucker. I mean,

661
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:51.759
<v Speaker 2>I kind of feel like those four specifically, like that's

662
00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:53.160
<v Speaker 2>your team, right, Like that's your core.

663
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:55.400
<v Speaker 6>Ryston Tucker comes off the bench. He's somebody who's been

664
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:57.160
<v Speaker 6>a really good bright spot as a freshman early on.

665
00:29:57.559 --> 00:29:59.680
<v Speaker 6>Is Galloway still starting, No, he's coming off the bench

666
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:02.640
<v Speaker 6>now too. Carlisle starting. Carlile he's the other I don't

667
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:05.359
<v Speaker 6>know much about him. He's a transfer from Stanford. He's

668
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:07.680
<v Speaker 6>had one or two good games. He's been he had

669
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:12.200
<v Speaker 6>some inconsistent performances. He's not he's not gonna be relied

670
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:14.519
<v Speaker 6>on as heavily as Miles Rice. But they're a good

671
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:15.759
<v Speaker 6>one two punch if they're both on.

672
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:17.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

673
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:21.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm just looking at Indiana's schedule at this point,

674
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:26.079
<v Speaker 2>and obviously their only test was against South Carolina. And

675
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.599
<v Speaker 2>South Carolina is you know, certainly better than Eastern Illinois,

676
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:34.599
<v Speaker 2>SIU Edwardsville and UNC Greensboro. But you know, they're they're

677
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:37.240
<v Speaker 2>probably I don't know, maybe South Carolina ends up being

678
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:39.000
<v Speaker 2>better than Loisll this year. I'm not really sure, but

679
00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:41.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure. Actually, let me ask you this, are you

680
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:46.960
<v Speaker 2>looking at Louisville to be a test that is similar

681
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:49.279
<v Speaker 2>to what you got against South Carolina.

682
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:51.160
<v Speaker 6>Or North Is this is a level up and at

683
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:53.720
<v Speaker 6>least in my so you think you think, like you know,

684
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:55.640
<v Speaker 6>I don't think South Carolina is very good.

685
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I didn't see a second of the game, but

686
00:30:57.039 --> 00:30:58.680
<v Speaker 2>I did feel confident about it going in. I bet

687
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:00.359
<v Speaker 2>on that one just because I looked at But I mean,

688
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:01.759
<v Speaker 2>I looked at the two teams and I just felt

689
00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:05.119
<v Speaker 2>like Indiana was in position to roll and they won

690
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:07.519
<v Speaker 2>by eighteen. I think it was so, you know, and

691
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:11.000
<v Speaker 2>none of us know how good anybody really is right now.

692
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:13.039
<v Speaker 2>Some teams have played a really challenging schedule to where

693
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:15.039
<v Speaker 2>you have a good feeling about where you are. But

694
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.759
<v Speaker 2>these two teams aren't that both have played a solid opponent,

695
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:20.799
<v Speaker 2>although Louisville's opponent clearly looks.

696
00:31:20.640 --> 00:31:22.839
<v Speaker 6>To be and they do have an opponent, even though

697
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:23.680
<v Speaker 6>one was an exhibition.

698
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:24.880
<v Speaker 2>So I was getting ready to say, is that like

699
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:28.839
<v Speaker 2>Louisvill's played a much better team than any of the

700
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:30.880
<v Speaker 2>opponents that Indiana's played, but you know what, in an

701
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:34.279
<v Speaker 2>exhibition game, they beat that team. So you know, I'll

702
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:36.119
<v Speaker 2>just say it, like, I don't expect Louisville to win

703
00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:40.720
<v Speaker 2>on Wednesday. I hope they're competitive and if they win, awesome.

704
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:45.039
<v Speaker 2>I hate, you know, saying that and feeling that way,

705
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:46.680
<v Speaker 2>but it's just, you know, it's just the honest true.

706
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:48.359
<v Speaker 6>And I want to say this about Indiana if they

707
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:51.240
<v Speaker 6>and I think Louisville can definitely win this game if

708
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.839
<v Speaker 6>they play to the best of their ability, but Indiana

709
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:55.759
<v Speaker 6>fans will not be happy if they lose this game.

710
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:58.279
<v Speaker 6>It's but with Mike Woodson specifically based on this, the

711
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:00.400
<v Speaker 6>fact that this is year four, with an improved roster,

712
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:03.440
<v Speaker 6>you're expected to take a step forward, and losing your

713
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:06.000
<v Speaker 6>first game in the Battle for Atlantis to a first

714
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:08.240
<v Speaker 6>year head coach, at least at a power program like this,

715
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:10.759
<v Speaker 6>that would not look good for Indiana fans.

716
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:12.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in their eyes, of but.

717
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:15.279
<v Speaker 2>In my eyes, And it's probably all the factors you

718
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:16.599
<v Speaker 2>just mentioned. But I was going to say, like, I

719
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:20.160
<v Speaker 2>think it's because one recency lowl has been really bad lately. Also,

720
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:25.680
<v Speaker 2>there's high expectations for Woodson with this roster yeah, and

721
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:30.240
<v Speaker 2>also they just really don't give him any again. You know,

722
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:32.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't think a loss here would mean like people

723
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:33.960
<v Speaker 2>should lose their mind. But I agree with that, But

724
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I know how fans are, so like, I'm not at all.

725
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:38.680
<v Speaker 6>The leash is very short until he does something that

726
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:40.599
<v Speaker 6>kind of gives him a little more leeway.

727
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:42.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like he's he's actually had a really really good

728
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>run since the season ended with everything as far as

729
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:47.599
<v Speaker 2>his roster, and you know, so far they look pretty good.

730
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:50.160
<v Speaker 2>They're a top fifteen team right now. But he's one

731
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:51.960
<v Speaker 2>of those guys that because they kind of feel like

732
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:54.359
<v Speaker 2>they should have been better up to this point than

733
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:57.559
<v Speaker 2>they've been. Any little slip up will lead to not

734
00:32:57.680 --> 00:32:59.799
<v Speaker 2>a mob of people in the streets claiming he needs

735
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:01.559
<v Speaker 2>to be fired, But like he didn't have a lot

736
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:03.880
<v Speaker 2>of wiggle room. To be fair, he did so well

737
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:06.000
<v Speaker 2>at putting his roster together. There really is no excuse

738
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:07.440
<v Speaker 2>for him to not be a good team this year,

739
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:09.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, And I don't think that. I mean, i'd say,

740
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:11.480
<v Speaker 2>right now, really unlikely they end up being a team

741
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:13.319
<v Speaker 2>that like misses the tournament, but you know, they should be,

742
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:14.920
<v Speaker 2>not just that, they should be probably one of the

743
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:16.640
<v Speaker 2>better teams in the Big Ten this year, and who knows,

744
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:20.279
<v Speaker 2>maybe they will be, but I just I think right now,

745
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm trying to not put so much

746
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:27.319
<v Speaker 2>emphasis on what I saw against Tennessee, but it's impossible

747
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:29.920
<v Speaker 2>not to because again, I know when they play the

748
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:33.599
<v Speaker 2>bell Hop in the Bahamas and they play you know,

749
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Spaulding in an exhibition game, Bellerman, like, I just know

750
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:40.240
<v Speaker 2>what that is. So I try not to really put

751
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:40.920
<v Speaker 2>much into that at all.

752
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:41.480
<v Speaker 3>So what does that do?

753
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:44.240
<v Speaker 2>That gives me only one game to really try to

754
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:47.160
<v Speaker 2>take something from for this matchup on Wednesday, And in

755
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:50.279
<v Speaker 2>that one game it wasn't good. It wasn't good at all.

756
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:52.680
<v Speaker 2>So we shall see, right quick break, We'll come back

757
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:54.559
<v Speaker 2>on the other side, finish up with a little college

758
00:33:54.559 --> 00:34:00.240
<v Speaker 2>football playoff scenario talk because you know, just looking through

759
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:03.200
<v Speaker 2>a great piece here about Pat forty of Sports illustrated.

760
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:04.720
<v Speaker 3>The shakeup.

761
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:06.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean again, the committee would have to just be

762
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:11.719
<v Speaker 2>egregious to like not hold the SEC teams that lost accountable.

763
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:13.679
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know, I guess more people are joking

764
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.280
<v Speaker 2>when they claim that like certain teams could still be alive.

765
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:18.159
<v Speaker 2>But I guess we'll find out tomorrow, quick Break, don't

766
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:19.639
<v Speaker 2>go anywhere, keep it locked right here on Sports Talk

767
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:20.400
<v Speaker 2>seven ninety.

768
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:22.880
<v Speaker 5>So.

769
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Right now, I think it's you know, you could say

770
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:31.360
<v Speaker 2>that there are twenty four teams that aren't completely dead

771
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:35.159
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to playoff chances, but the vast majority

772
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:36.079
<v Speaker 2>of those twenty four are.

773
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:40.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's pretty much impossible for them to get in.

774
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:42.280
<v Speaker 2>But I guess by technicality you can claim, well, hey,

775
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:45.480
<v Speaker 2>you know we're not dead yet. So here are the

776
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:48.400
<v Speaker 2>teams that are just in no matter what. Oregon, Ohio

777
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:51.400
<v Speaker 2>State and Georgia. Teams that I feel like are probably

778
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>in regardless, Notre Dame, Penn State, Texas, Tennessee. And then

779
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:03.119
<v Speaker 2>it gets it gets tricky, got teams like s some

780
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:09.079
<v Speaker 2>U Miami and Indiana who certainly benefited from everything that

781
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:11.599
<v Speaker 2>happened in the SEC the other night, and.

782
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:14.519
<v Speaker 3>I'd say possibly in.

783
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:19.840
<v Speaker 2>And then the teams that I feel like are the

784
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:23.719
<v Speaker 2>not dead yet but like it's not it's not happening.

785
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:26.239
<v Speaker 3>I would say.

786
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:35.559
<v Speaker 2>Ole, Miss Alabama, BYU, Iowa State, Arizona State, I mean, Clemson.

787
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:37.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they could get in, but maybe with

788
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 2>a strong showing against South Carolina, who's ended up being

789
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:42.880
<v Speaker 2>one of the better teams in the SEC, and you know,

790
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:45.119
<v Speaker 2>another upset or two, maybe that can end up happening.

791
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:46.559
<v Speaker 2>But the teams that can only get in if they

792
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:48.880
<v Speaker 2>win their conference title and can still technically make their

793
00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:54.440
<v Speaker 2>conference title is Boise State, UNLV, Tulane, Army Colorado in Kansas.

794
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:59.440
<v Speaker 2>So you know, when you have the SEC just I

795
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:01.079
<v Speaker 2>mean go out. I mean, it couldn't have been worse

796
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:02.920
<v Speaker 2>for the SEC to be honestly. Now again, they're still

797
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:05.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna get three teams in, and they may still have

798
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:08.719
<v Speaker 2>those three teams go far and maybe the SEC winner

799
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:11.880
<v Speaker 2>is or maybe maybe the national title winner is an

800
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:12.440
<v Speaker 2>SEC team.

801
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:13.239
<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't shock me at all.

802
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.159
<v Speaker 2>Could be Georgia, It could be any those teams, although

803
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:17.199
<v Speaker 2>I would be shocked if it was it was Tennessee.

804
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:21.800
<v Speaker 2>But if you look at the a'ies, like the SEC,

805
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:25.280
<v Speaker 2>wanting to be a four bid league is just not

806
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I just don't see how you would do that because

807
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Bama can't get in. I mean they just I mean

808
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.559
<v Speaker 2>I guess they can. The committee can can prove to

809
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:35.760
<v Speaker 2>us that they do have some biases going on. But

810
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:38.639
<v Speaker 2>I think the Big ten, I mean know they get

811
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:41.280
<v Speaker 2>in four in. I mean, they are right, It sounds

812
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:43.119
<v Speaker 2>crazy because again, like just seeing the teams that are

813
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:45.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna get left out and seeing the teams that are

814
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:47.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna get in, I'm I'm doing what doesn't matter, and

815
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:50.559
<v Speaker 2>that is just knowing like, wow, these brands are a

816
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:52.280
<v Speaker 2>lot different than the others, but it doesn't It's not

817
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:54.960
<v Speaker 2>about brand, it's not about history. It's about you know,

818
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:58.559
<v Speaker 2>what you've done this year results. And yeah, maybe they're

819
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:03.639
<v Speaker 2>there potentially be because of record and not resume, but

820
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.440
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't make two and three loss SEC teams any

821
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:10.440
<v Speaker 2>more worthy. Like Penn State in Indiana, there's no doubt

822
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:12.280
<v Speaker 2>about it. You'll be able to say they're there because

823
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:15.440
<v Speaker 2>of their record, not because of their resume, but you know,

824
00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:16.960
<v Speaker 2>both things matter.

825
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:19.360
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, and they can both lose this Saturday.

826
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.920
<v Speaker 6>Now it would be Highly State Maryland. So both Indiana

827
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:24.880
<v Speaker 6>and Penn State are playing teams they should easily beat

828
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:27.280
<v Speaker 6>up on. But you can always always throw out that possibility,

829
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:27.719
<v Speaker 6>of course.

830
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and look that I'd be lying to you if

831
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I said I had any clue as to what's going

832
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:33.280
<v Speaker 2>to happen in the Big twelve. But I know that

833
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:37.480
<v Speaker 2>their results with Colorado losing the way they did, who

834
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:38.559
<v Speaker 2>there was two upsets in the.

835
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:40.679
<v Speaker 6>Lost areas on the State. That was the one with

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<v Speaker 6>the field goal posts. Yeah, and torn down prematurely.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was a crazy ending, by the way. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that was playing out while we were on the

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<v Speaker 2>air for the postgame show. But anyways, like the the

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<v Speaker 2>Big Twelve, I mean, they've got a chance to get

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<v Speaker 2>a league in because of course you get in if

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<v Speaker 2>you win, if you win the championship, but they could

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not get one of those buys because of how

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<v Speaker 2>the rankings are going to because again the Big Twelve

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<v Speaker 2>is gon end up putting a team in there only

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<v Speaker 2>because they're slotted to have it with the title winner,

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<v Speaker 2>and that team, you know, may be borderline top twenty

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<v Speaker 2>depending on who it is. I still think the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>it could be a two bid league, and it did

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<v Speaker 2>benefit from the SEC doing what it did Saturday. But

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<v Speaker 2>I would say SMU and Miami both being you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like if Miami wins and SMU ends up being an

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<v Speaker 2>eleven and two ACC team, I think that's the best

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<v Speaker 2>case scenario. I just don't see Clemson getting in, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>John.

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<v Speaker 3>It was fun, brother, it was fun. We'll do it again.

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<v Speaker 6>Back Yes, I'll be back.

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<v Speaker 3>Soon, looking forward to it. Have a good night everybody,