WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.240 All right, Matt Brown's five year old daughter has given 2 00:00:03.319 --> 00:00:06.480 us permission to interview him at four o'clock today, a 3 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:08.919 little on the other side of four, So bring in 4 00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:13.199 Matt Pablo mash Drenni, the head coach of RSL. I 5 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:16.000 would imagine he's still a little bit salty as a 6 00:00:16.039 --> 00:00:18.920 result of some calls that continue to go the wrong 7 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:21.879 way against RSL. Will join us in about an hour 8 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:24.600 from right now, get into the five o'clock hour of 9 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:24.879 the show. 10 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:26.640 But let's welcome in a very special guest. 11 00:00:26.679 --> 00:00:28.480 You know him as the voice of the Bees and 12 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:33.399 longtime radio personality in our market, the great Tony Parks 13 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:35.159 on a Wednesday TP, Happy Wednesday. 14 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:35.560 Ho are we doing? 15 00:00:36.240 --> 00:00:40.280 I'm doing great man. Mike Toddler is never coming on 16 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:46.159 this show. I become more and more afraid over time 17 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:48.520 if you were to interview with her, you know what 18 00:00:48.640 --> 00:00:49.439 she might unveil? 19 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:50.799 Are the things that she might say. 20 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:53.520 So when I heard about this, I thought, you know what, 21 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:55.159 I'm better keep my phone close to me at all 22 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:57.719 times when I'm expected to be on the air, because 23 00:00:57.719 --> 00:00:59.000 I'm not quite sure what would happen. 24 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:02.960 I have a though tone. As the young lady grows 25 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:06.000 and evolves. If she's anything like either her mother or 26 00:01:06.040 --> 00:01:08.799 her father, she'll be very willing to express anything that 27 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:09.799 she wants to express. 28 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:10.640 Is that fair to say? 29 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:12.239 Yes? It is. 30 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:16.319 She talks with her hands, she loves pasta, and she's 31 00:01:16.359 --> 00:01:19.159 a fast talker too, very passionate. I don't know where 32 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:23.319 she got all this from, but whatever, She's an Italian. 33 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:25.159 For sure, and she shows it all the time. 34 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:28.599 And she's absolutely wonderful and I couldn't be more in 35 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:31.920 love with the experience of having her in our life. 36 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:32.799 Love it, buddy. 37 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:36.599 All right, Let's start actually with the announcement that was 38 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:41.200 made by BYU that young Bear Bachmeyer has won the 39 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:44.079 starting job as a freshman. As a true freshman. He 40 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:47.359 will be the first true freshman in BYU history to 41 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:49.879 start an opener, and he will be the seventh true 42 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:53.319 freshman to see action under center for Brigham Young. He 43 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:56.640 was with Stanford for springball, didn't land in Provo until 44 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:59.719 late July. He's been there like four weeks, five weeks. 45 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:03.439 I was on TV with our guy Dave Fox last 46 00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:05.920 night and he asked me what this says about the 47 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:08.840 quarterback room. I don't think it's an indictment on the room. 48 00:02:08.919 --> 00:02:11.120 I think it's a commentary on the kid, and it's 49 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:14.240 pretty impressive that he was the guy that stepped up 50 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:16.800 and won the job. Now, whenever you do anything for 51 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:18.680 the first time in life or in sports, there's going 52 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:20.479 to be growing pains. And as a result, did the 53 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:24.159 quarterback change buy use Vegas line has dropped? Their odds 54 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:27.560 to compete in league play have dropped as well. We 55 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:29.919 know that defensively they're going to be stout because they've 56 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:31.879 been since Jay took over down there. But what do 57 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:34.199 you make of young bear Bachmeyer winning the starting job 58 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:34.840 for BYU? 59 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:37.080 Yeah, I mean the question is always going to be 60 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:39.319 who gives you the best chance to win going forward? Now, 61 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:41.879 I think you make the best comment there. You know, 62 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:44.680 everyone wants to say, well, this must be an indictment 63 00:02:44.719 --> 00:02:46.719 on you know what they really have, This must show 64 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:49.039 a lack of depth or a lack of capability. 65 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:51.599 Well, we don't really know until live bullets get flying. 66 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:55.159 I mean, there was a season where Utah was battling 67 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:57.319 back and forth between you know, did they go with 68 00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:01.159 Travis Wilson or do they go with the Kendall Thompson 69 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:04.159 and oh my goodness, and each of them brought something, 70 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:07.319 but neither of them was complete right. And then there 71 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:11.000 was a season where this guy named Brett Elliott was 72 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:14.080 a returning starter and was ready to take over and 73 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:16.719 have a great season for Utah, and he was injured 74 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:19.360 and everybody thought the season really. 75 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:21.879 Might be headed down a downward spiral. 76 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:24.360 And then some guy named Alex Smith came in took over, 77 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:26.960 and they flourished and they would go on to win. 78 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:28.280 The conference and the rest is history. 79 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:30.719 So I do understand the true freshman's you neque come 80 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:32.759 because it's the first time he's going to be out there, 81 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:34.240 he's young, all of that. 82 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:36.159 It is not nineteen ninety two anymore. 83 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:38.479 We're having a freshman quarterback was just thought of as 84 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:42.240 the worst possible situation you could be in. What I 85 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:44.439 do know is that when it comes to the way 86 00:03:44.439 --> 00:03:46.719 that program's going to view it, look, if you're the 87 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:48.360 best thing to help us win, you're going to be 88 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:49.599 out there, and if you're not, you're not. 89 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:51.599 So when there's this. 90 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:55.120 Hey, we need patience and baby steps, and let's remember 91 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:58.240 how young he is. Sure, if he's the best thing 92 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:01.280 to help you win, then and you know what, you're 93 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:02.599 going to have him out there and if he's not, 94 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:05.159 you're not. So as long as that ends up being 95 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:07.240 the case, and it is clear that that is the case, 96 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:09.439 they'll continue to have the trust of that locker room. 97 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:13.319 And I think Kilani, with his experience, has been tremendous 98 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:17.560 at problem solving and making proper adjustments fairly quickly and 99 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:19.839 being able to turn the page fast and go a 100 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:22.120 different direction if it's not going to work out. What 101 00:04:22.240 --> 00:04:24.399 I do know is this, when the live bullets get flying, 102 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:26.959 that's when we discover so much more about these guys, 103 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:29.079 And we're going to find out that much more about him. 104 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:31.920 And I will say that I believe Kelanie and a 105 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:35.120 Rod have earned the benefit of the doubt. And when 106 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:38.680 it comes to the quarterback battles that we've like, Zach 107 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:41.519 Wilson didn't automatically have that job. He won the job. 108 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:45.120 Jaron Hall won the job. Jake Reetzath a year ago 109 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:48.439 won the job. Like they're pretty much three for three 110 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:52.120 when it comes to picking the right QB, you know, 111 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:55.319 as it pertains to the quarterback battle they found themselves in. 112 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:57.319 So it does feel like those guys know what they're doing. 113 00:04:57.360 --> 00:04:59.319 If I'm a BYU fan, I am putting my faith 114 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:00.000 in that staff. 115 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:02.439 Yeah, I would, because the last time I saw a 116 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:06.120 job given to someone who I thought had massive question 117 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:07.879 marks as to whether or not he was capable and 118 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:10.519 kept getting a longer and longer leash was Jay Keaps 119 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:11.199 and we. 120 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:13.240 All saw how that turned out, and it wasn't good. 121 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:15.399 And then all of a sudden. 122 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:17.759 They were facing a situation where they had to turn. 123 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:19.480 Away from him before they lost the locker room, and 124 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:21.600 they were able to salvage the end of the year. 125 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:24.519 And by the way, Riley Nelson by no means was 126 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:26.439 going to be a Heisman candidate, but they had to 127 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:28.959 make that quick decision to go. So this is one 128 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:31.360 where I definitely put the trust in that staff. I mean, 129 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:34.199 they have a wealth of experience, and I think if 130 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:37.800 you look at the historic track record of how long 131 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:41.439 it took Kyle Whittingham to eventually get exactly what he 132 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:43.279 want established and have the culture of the way he 133 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:46.639 wants and the decision making process, everything that goes into it, 134 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:49.680 and the trust of an entire program and fan base. 135 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:51.199 If you look at the way it worked for Kyle, 136 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:53.759 it's actually been similar in the timeline I think for 137 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:57.759 Kilanie and now he has really solidified so much of 138 00:05:57.800 --> 00:05:59.519 what he wants and how he wants to do things 139 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:03.319 perfect of course, but I really like the roots that 140 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:06.000 he's built there, the trust that he's built there, and 141 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:08.600 now going forward when it comes to decisions. You know, 142 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:12.600 anytime Kyle's been wrong about something, redirects quickly and then 143 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:14.639 you see them start to. 144 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:15.079 Move back upward. 145 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:17.319 I think it would be the same case here if they, 146 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:20.160 let's say, missed on Bear as your starting line or 147 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:21.240 starting quarterback. 148 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:23.959 The other piece of news that was announced yesterday and 149 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:26.920 it's been it's been kind of interesting. We actually just 150 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:30.319 played the sound from Jason Beck, offensive coordinator for the You. 151 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:33.240 So Coach Wick comes out and announces that Isaac Wilson 152 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:35.800 is QB two and then Jason is like. 153 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:37.279 Well, it's more like two A two B. 154 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:41.399 I don't know if that messaging is to You've got 155 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:44.360 to be careful in this day and age with these athletes. 156 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:48.519 If you you know, if a race is decided and 157 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:51.040 a young man is not happy that he's suddenly QB three, 158 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:54.399 maybe he's inclined to find somewhere else to play. So 159 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:57.680 maybe that's making Bird feel better about it. But you know, 160 00:06:57.720 --> 00:06:59.639 according to coach wit and he's dead, coach, We'll go 161 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:02.800 with him. Isaac Wilson will be the backup to Devin 162 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:06.839 Dampier and ton. I suppose the blessing in disguise a 163 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:09.319 year ago with Cameron's inability to stay healthy is now 164 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:12.879 Utah's backup quarterback is one with one year of legitimate 165 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:15.360 Big twelve experience center's belt. What do you make then, 166 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:16.879 announcement that Isaac is the backup? 167 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:19.600 Well, Isaac being the backup I don't think is a 168 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:21.480 bad thing at all. The other part about that, as 169 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:23.800 you talk about his experience and all of that, is 170 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:25.319 when you go to a two B and. 171 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:27.319 People are like, wow, that's kind of interesting. 172 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:30.959 I actually think it's important to always keep as many 173 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:34.480 people believing they are one play away as many as possible, 174 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:36.680 because if you make them believe, well, you're so far 175 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:40.399 down the depth chart that there's a real unlikelihood that 176 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:43.360 this is going to happen, then not only could you 177 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:45.639 lose them from the program, you could lose them from, 178 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:47.959 let's say, just being as engaged as they need to 179 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:51.800 be day to day, having some of the investment that 180 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:52.879 you need from a guy. 181 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:54.959 That is very unlikely to play. 182 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:56.839 Clearly there's a two and a three, there is a 183 00:07:56.879 --> 00:07:59.839 two and a three, two a two B. I would 184 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:02.519 I would bet my money that that is unlikely. But 185 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:06.160 it's very important that a player believes that, understands and 186 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:08.120 perceives they are one play away. You need them to 187 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:11.000 keep competing because the moment that you draw up a 188 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:14.120 hierarchy and someone believes they're too far down, or someone 189 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:16.079 believes that the likelihood of getting on the field is 190 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:19.480 too little one either, you need to be honest with 191 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:21.480 them and tell them that so they leave and you 192 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:23.639 don't want them there. I've seen coaches who have to 193 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:25.279 do that, and now is not the time for that. 194 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:27.279 By the way, you're getting ready for your season, so 195 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:29.240 this is a this is an off season part that 196 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:31.800 you would do it that way, but the current situation, no. 197 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:34.000 You want guys believing you know what, you are one 198 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:36.919 play away and you can contend and compete to win 199 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:38.639 the number two spot, and you could still win the 200 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:42.000 number one spot. Remember this is these jobs are never 201 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:45.080 completely solid. If you are the better option and you 202 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:48.159 start showing things that help us believe you know what, 203 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.480 this is actually going to win us games more than that, 204 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:52.639 then you're going to find yourself on the field and 205 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:54.559 staying on the field. And so it goes back to 206 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:58.879 the the you know, the h Alex Smith Colin Kaepernick thing, 207 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:02.360 which I know is so conscient versual last decade, But 208 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:04.759 the point was Kaepernick was one play away, and then 209 00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:07.200 when Kaepernick got on the field, the forty nine ers 210 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:10.080 had to realize, wait, this guy right now gives us 211 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:11.399 the best chance to win the Super Bowl. 212 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:12.879 And we are appreciative of. 213 00:09:12.759 --> 00:09:15.480 What Alex has done, and it's not that we're lacking 214 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:17.759 appreciation for that, but this guy can actually give us 215 00:09:17.799 --> 00:09:20.240 a better chance to do it. They played the odds, 216 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:23.200 they were six yards away. So you'll get your chance 217 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:25.440 with several reps. And this is going to continue to 218 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:27.960 evall because you're dealing with young players and some that 219 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:31.240 are unproven still and some that have shown some flashes 220 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:33.799 and still have not been able to show that dynamic, 221 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:35.080 high level consistently. 222 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:37.480 Well, this is your chance to continue to show us 223 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:38.720 that each and every day. 224 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:41.240 So two A two B is you need to keep 225 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:43.480 them hungry to believe each one of them that they 226 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:44.840 are one play away from being. 227 00:09:44.639 --> 00:09:45.080 On the field. 228 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:47.759 I've been asking all my guests this this week as 229 00:09:47.799 --> 00:09:50.559 We're ten days away from the first game for Utah. 230 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:53.639 They're at the Rose Bowl against UCLA. They're six point 231 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:56.759 five point favorite, and I kind of like this opener. 232 00:09:57.000 --> 00:10:00.399 I actually I like the opener for BYU in a 233 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:02.799 different way. I think it's good that Bear will have 234 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:05.399 a soft opponent to kind of land. I'm not a 235 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:08.559 huge fan of the FBSFCS thing. I think at some 236 00:10:08.639 --> 00:10:11.000 point it will go away. But with it being the 237 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:13.440 reality of breaking in a freshman quarterback, you might as 238 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:15.279 well do it in provo against Portland State. 239 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:16.320 And I like that. 240 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:18.679 We'll see Devin on the road against a P four 241 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:22.120 team and one of college football's most historic venues. But 242 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:24.919 when they're on the plane flying home from LA after 243 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:27.960 playing UCLA, what does success look like for you? 244 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:29.279 Game one for the Utes. 245 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:33.960 There's a clear indication this offense can work in sync 246 00:10:34.519 --> 00:10:38.480 and that it can be reliable over four quarters. Like, 247 00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:40.000 you can't just come in with a game plan that 248 00:10:40.039 --> 00:10:43.440 starts really well and then you're three and outing your 249 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:46.120 way out and hoping your defense can save you and 250 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:47.799 clinging to a seventeen fourteen win. 251 00:10:47.919 --> 00:10:49.399 Now, I'm not saying you don't turn. 252 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:51.360 Down a win, but in order for you to get 253 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:53.240 on that plane heading back to Salt Lake and feel like, 254 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:55.840 you know what, we got something here that can travel 255 00:10:55.879 --> 00:10:56.679 the rest of the season. 256 00:10:56.919 --> 00:10:59.399 I want to see an offense that can really work 257 00:10:59.399 --> 00:10:59.799 in sync. 258 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:02.759 Thing that I really wish for you fans that they 259 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:05.720 could see with that team is a group of receivers 260 00:11:06.039 --> 00:11:09.679 that can be very dependable to make high level plays consistently, 261 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:12.879 to make the tough catch Lakisi at times, to be 262 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:15.000 able to just go up and win a ball more 263 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:17.919 often when a quarterback needs to just kind of put 264 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:20.000 it in a spot and depend on his guy to 265 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:20.440 go win. 266 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:23.519 Utah has not been able to have that consistently. 267 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:26.559 They've had a guy here, or a player who has 268 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:30.279 a particular skill, such as you know, a guy with speed, 269 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:32.120 or a guy's got good hands but not a great 270 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:34.600 route runner. It always feels like they have one, but 271 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:36.240 they're always missing the other. And I would love to 272 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:37.759 see a corp of receivers that they can. 273 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:39.240 Depend on more and more. Balance. 274 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:42.200 I don't think is going to necessarily be a must, 275 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:44.519 but you have to be able to have a threat 276 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:48.279 for these things rather than a defense saying okay, this 277 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:49.960 is all we have to do and we can simplify 278 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:53.200 our plan once we figure out what their original game 279 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:53.720 plan is. 280 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:54.240 I want to. 281 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:56.399 See a group that can go out and beat people 282 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:59.799 just simply by being better players. And so last year, 283 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:02.600 like the BAU game, always jumps out to me because 284 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:03.639 I love that game plan. 285 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:05.159 I love the way they executed. 286 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:09.759 The physicality was tremendous, and Utah obviously hangs their hat 287 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:10.039 on that. 288 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:11.600 But the second half. 289 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:14.000 It was very early. You're looking at it going they're 290 00:12:14.039 --> 00:12:15.840 not going to score. I mean they had field position 291 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:18.919 for days, couldn't move. I mean they their defense was 292 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:22.720 given them opportunity after opportunity, and they couldn't convert even 293 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:24.799 with a field goal. So I don't want to see 294 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:27.600 them backing their way into a win and then coming 295 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:29.399 out of it going, well, a win's win and one 296 00:12:29.440 --> 00:12:31.240 to zero and you never turn out to victory and 297 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:32.879 oh they got some things to clean up. 298 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:33.879 No, no, no, no no. 299 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:36.080 I want to see something that shows me with a 300 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:38.720 guy like Devin stepping in winning a job like that 301 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:42.600 where you fans have been hoping to see a guy 302 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:45.000 who can go out and be a dynamic playmaker like 303 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:47.679 they had, you know a few years ago when healthy 304 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:51.399 and then say, okay, now, if you take this away, 305 00:12:51.559 --> 00:12:53.879 we can be great here, or if this isn't quite 306 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:55.960 running the way we need, we can always go back 307 00:12:55.960 --> 00:12:59.159 to this rather than well, if we're not winning first 308 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:01.879 down with the run, we're in trouble and trying to 309 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:04.240 find a way to you know, kind of like twenty fourteen, 310 00:13:04.279 --> 00:13:06.600 where you're just trying to find a way to eke 311 00:13:06.639 --> 00:13:08.200 out a nineteen sixteen victory. 312 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:10.279 That's just not going to give. 313 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:12.399 Anybody a good feeling going forward about what is a 314 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:15.919 very difficult conference to play in that is so unpredictable. 315 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:19.519 You referenced the balance and look, man, you've known me 316 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:21.799 for a long time. I'm just a natural cynic for 317 00:13:21.840 --> 00:13:24.960 whatever reason, and I'm usually more skeptical than I am 318 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:29.200 accepting just audacious expectations based off of no data or proof. 319 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:32.120 So I lean into what I feel like. I know. 320 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:35.039 I mean, back when like Al Jefferson was here, it's like, oh, 321 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:36.639 we're going to call it the Wheezy and he's going 322 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:38.440 to be twenty and ten, Like, no, well he's. 323 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:38.919 Not very good. 324 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:40.480 If this team is not going to be very good, 325 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:44.600 And you know, when it comes to just Homer Broadcast 326 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:45.480 and Homer media. 327 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:46.559 I'm not into it. 328 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:50.840 So I just don't know enough about the weapons on 329 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:54.399 the outside for Utah right now. I don't know enough 330 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:56.480 about the wide receiver room. Even if the Zach Williams 331 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:58.399 kid didn't transfer. I mean, he didn't have a ton 332 00:13:58.399 --> 00:13:58.960 of experience. 333 00:13:59.320 --> 00:13:59.960 Here's what we know. 334 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:02.679 Oh and I'll speak for myself, here's what I feel like. 335 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:04.720 I know they've got two running backs they like, they've 336 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:06.919 got a run it. They've got a quarterback that can really. 337 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:07.600 Rush the football. 338 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:10.279 They've got potentially the best offensive line in the country, 339 00:14:10.360 --> 00:14:12.559 not just the Big twelve. They have a head coach 340 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:16.360 that just abhorrors not taking care of the football. Part 341 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:18.480 of me feels like this is a rush heavy attack 342 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:19.840 and we are going to see a lot of like 343 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:23.840 seventeen fourteen or twenty to fourteen hopefully wins for Utah 344 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:24.600 football this year. 345 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:27.519 Nothing wrong with that, But as far as. 346 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:30.320 Just generally speaking, when it comes to the balance between 347 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:32.320 the run game and the throw game, how do you 348 00:14:32.360 --> 00:14:34.120 think that will look for Utap football this year? 349 00:14:34.759 --> 00:14:36.279 If it's heavy run. 350 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:41.559 Because you're incapable of passing, and then you have to 351 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:43.960 do it like you did, say in twenty fourteen, which 352 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:46.000 I'm not bashing that twenty fourteen team, and that was 353 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:48.559 the first one in the Pac twelve area era to 354 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:51.519 kind of emerge and start to win at a higher clip. 355 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:54.720 You cannot save your way to wealth. 356 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:57.679 You must be the one that ends up being a 357 00:14:57.720 --> 00:14:59.840 little more aggressive, or is it the threat to be 358 00:14:59.879 --> 00:15:03.679 more or aggressive? So the twenty fourteen team, it was, 359 00:15:04.039 --> 00:15:07.559 I remember coming out of their game against USC thinking, 360 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:10.440 you can't keep winning like this, Like you just can't 361 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:13.000 keep like you can't have a wide receiver drop a 362 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:15.440 backwards pass and stare at the football on the ground. 363 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:17.120 I think it was or Fe who picked it up 364 00:15:17.159 --> 00:15:18.000 and ran it back. 365 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:20.399 While nobody even knew what was going on, and takes 366 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:21.320 it back for a touchdown. 367 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:23.360 Utah I think had one good offensive drive. 368 00:15:23.399 --> 00:15:24.879 It just happened to be the game winning drive. 369 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:27.960 And everyone's like, but they're in contention, and it's like 370 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:30.360 they can't keep winning like this, Like in this league, 371 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:32.639 you're just not going to survive that way. If you 372 00:15:32.679 --> 00:15:35.960 want to talk about a championship aspiration, if you want 373 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:37.600 to talk about playoff threat. 374 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:39.440 Those kinds of things, you won't get there. 375 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:43.120 Then the twenty eighteen team, they lost a couple of 376 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:46.480 conference games early, and when they started playing their best balls, 377 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:48.759 they lost one conference game the rest of the way out. 378 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:50.399 This is the part I'm getting into. 379 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:52.159 They were not balanced. 380 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:56.039 They were like sixty four percent runs something like that. 381 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:00.200 The difference was Huntley was now a much bigger threat 382 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:04.720 to throw effectively. The team showed the capability to throw 383 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:07.120 at a much more efficient level. 384 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:09.600 And so the defenses, even though Utah would. 385 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:11.759 Say take off with Huntley or go to their run 386 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:15.720 game because they knew you could, it actually helped open 387 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:18.879 up even more run opportunities. So balance may not need 388 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:22.039 to be there. The balance of what is a realistic threat. 389 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:24.840 Those two things must happen, because if they get to 390 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:28.639 the point that they know that you are not dependable 391 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:31.440 enough in the throw game, that they can absolutely load 392 00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:33.720 the box and that if they play the odds right, 393 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:35.879 you're just not going to be able to put up 394 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:38.159 enough offense, and if they take care of the ball, 395 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:41.600 they'll eventually prevail. I mean, you can still find a 396 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:43.519 way to win some games, as Kyle has been able 397 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:46.080 to do that with field position and just playing great 398 00:16:46.080 --> 00:16:46.639 defense and. 399 00:16:46.600 --> 00:16:49.519 Making the timely plays, but you won't get to the 400 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:50.399 elite levels. 401 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:53.240