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<v Speaker 1>Wrestling too for a mature audience.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't devailp oh Man. A lot of wrestler was

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<v Speaker 2>talking to you earlier about this. We have been at

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<v Speaker 2>a drought of random, stray wrestling shit, and then in

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<v Speaker 2>like the last five days there were just we were

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<v Speaker 2>gorged with wrestling news. It was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all a lot of little stuff. It's not anything serious.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the biggest thing going into Summer Slam.

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<v Speaker 1>You think it would be more centric around the show,

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<v Speaker 1>but people care more about what's going on around the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Outside of the show. Has been making more headlines than

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<v Speaker 1>anything that have that has to do with Summer Slam.

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<v Speaker 2>So well. I mean we've just in the last what

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four hours, we've had two forty year old men

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<v Speaker 2>release a video of anime Unicorns that set the wrestling

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<v Speaker 2>world on fire. So that right there is enough to

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<v Speaker 2>just make you go, where are we? What is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>How did we get here? How did this become what

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<v Speaker 2>wrestling is? Where? That's the that's the news. And I

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<v Speaker 2>can see Donzena is in the chat room is a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit confused by that. I guess he is not

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<v Speaker 2>privy to the recent New Day fucking hype video, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to call it that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I haven't seen him myself yet, is it good?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Good? Good? Heavens you have not either.

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh all right. The only reason why I was even

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<v Speaker 2>aware of this was it came up in my Instagram feed.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm sure somebody, multiple people will probably share that

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<v Speaker 2>as it goes on. But there was a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>similarly to what's her name, thank you street Fighter, similarly

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<v Speaker 2>to what's her face? There after her ninety day period

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<v Speaker 2>where she's like, I'm a woman wrestler who's got to

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<v Speaker 2>wear goth clothes. So there's something new for you. The

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<v Speaker 2>New Day made an animated video where they're both unicorns

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<v Speaker 2>escaping from a circus.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, all right, let's watch this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>There they ship.

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<v Speaker 1>They even used uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Famous stock music.

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<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no, it's not stock that's not stock music. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds like somebody fuck sounds synthy wave.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's two unicorns that are pink and burgundy, yes, that

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<v Speaker 1>have that are in a circus with gold gold chain

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<v Speaker 1>slaves on them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they're trying to say something with that. Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>that the that the golden slave chains are are what

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to escape, and maybe this giant circus that

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<v Speaker 1>looks like it's very well funded. But except in the

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<v Speaker 1>back where the back you could see that there's like

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<v Speaker 1>dirt on the walls and stuff. But you know, out

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<v Speaker 1>in the public it looks really good. And of course,

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<v Speaker 1>of course unicorns have fangs now too, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to yeah, yeah, and now they're free

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<v Speaker 1>of those golden slave chains.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh then look look do they go past you know

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<v Speaker 2>that symbolized or maybe a broken horned third unicorn?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh ship, Oh wow? Did they just call up? Did

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<v Speaker 1>they just they just call him? That's what I see

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<v Speaker 1>they are.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. No, No, she's looking at him sadness.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been broken by the man, that's what it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Have the ability to escape because his horn, his magical

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<v Speaker 2>unicorn horn is damaged.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's broken. Poor thing with its broken horn

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<v Speaker 1>still behind it cage, you know, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some level to that where you see it and

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<v Speaker 1>you go you are kind of he's the only one

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't have shackles. Joe just saying maybe he is

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<v Speaker 1>a house unicorn.

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<v Speaker 2>Well no, no, no, that the idea is they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not afraid he's gonna escape because he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>the horn, the power.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a house unicorn.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, I mean the hairline was very far back

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<v Speaker 2>on that unicorn. Dude, Uncle Acord. Oh my god, oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I saw that and I go, boy, oh boy,

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<v Speaker 2>are you you're you're creating like a moment where it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's sad because he's watching them go and there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing you can do about it because he's broken and injured.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the only place where he could be.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, oh, you are you are being so

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<v Speaker 1>sensitive to this that is hilarious. No, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's going to be as ugly as that. I

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<v Speaker 1>would not be surprised if they show up with aw

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<v Speaker 1>show up with MVP and those guys over there, and

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<v Speaker 1>they do sit there, yeah, because I mean that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of been the narrative that they've been pushing for a

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<v Speaker 1>minute too, is that, Hey, look, you think that WWE

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<v Speaker 1>is all equal rights, equal fights and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's a lot of racism that happens behind the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes with WWE. I mean, if if I was the

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<v Speaker 1>one interpreting this right, would you really be that.

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<v Speaker 2>Surprised if it becomes that, If it becomes that as

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<v Speaker 2>a point of conversation, maybe the starting point shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>been anime unicorns.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm that's been their thing for a while though.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's like doing logo shit, that's all it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's all it's. It's very meta, right where

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<v Speaker 1>unicorns we're free now, we're imaginary creatures and we're free

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<v Speaker 1>getting away from these golden chains. Like it's it's all interpretive.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like interpretive dance or something. And the synth

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<v Speaker 1>wave stuff, I know, you say it stock. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to remember the guy's name, Harvey Danger, Harvey Wallbanger. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the fuck his name is, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like some synth wave shit that I was

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<v Speaker 1>listening to fucking ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the band is apparently called the loopis Nope, noctee Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I pronounced that right for sure. There's no way I

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<v Speaker 2>could have said that incorrectly. Hey, how about just the

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<v Speaker 2>fact alone that just once again all the symbolism in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you finish watching it first, though, because I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I still have like, ah, oh you didn't finish it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I oh jesus, Oh okay, I thought you saw the whole end,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, yeah yeah, so watch watch what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Curious. No, I haven't seen this at all. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's passing up. So the broken unicorn gives them

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<v Speaker 1>the the not be free. Okay, all right, so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they're not looking down on them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they love him. They're saying that I'm going in

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<v Speaker 2>spite of in spite of your being trapped here, we

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<v Speaker 2>will go be free, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they're unicorn gorns. It's superpowers. And now they're

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<v Speaker 1>electrical and their eyeballs are bleeding fucking purple light, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're heading towards the door. And now they switch up

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<v Speaker 1>the scene and all you see is their hoof prints

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<v Speaker 1>going off into the distance. Oh and now they're people again.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh now they left the company, So now they're people again.

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<v Speaker 1>I see. No, totally not not some kind of negative

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<v Speaker 1>symbolism at all. Yeah, No, they're people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very like I said, it's a very anime thing,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, which is also once we're dealing with forty

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<v Speaker 2>year old men doing it. I don't know, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>little strange to me. I guess it's better than just

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<v Speaker 2>being guys with a camera looking at it in their

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<v Speaker 2>kitchen being like, oh really shot, but blocks, aren't you?

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where the money's at?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a large contingent of people forty year olds across

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<v Speaker 1>the board that watch anime now regularly. It's Is it

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<v Speaker 1>any surprise that they're trying to cater to a market

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<v Speaker 1>that WWE really doesn't want a part of, you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, believe me, I am in no way,

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<v Speaker 2>shape or form surprised by any any of the pandering

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<v Speaker 2>to Japanese animation. Shit. It's just also at the same

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<v Speaker 2>exact time, I'm like, it's like middle aged men. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just still kind of fucking.

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<v Speaker 1>No you are you know what, you're a hundred I said, right,

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<v Speaker 1>too bad that everybody that's young in the industry has

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely zero creativity.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right though, that's also yeah, yeah, I just say that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have.

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<v Speaker 1>To agree with you one, Joe. Everybody that's young in

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<v Speaker 1>the industry is just dumb as fuck. They're just a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of rye backs running around eating chips, staring at

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<v Speaker 1>the camera waiting for their next move. But you have

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<v Speaker 1>forty year old men coming up with ideas that they

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<v Speaker 1>should have came up within their twenties. But hey, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they did.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We we say this right now, like WWE hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>full of pitfalls over the years for creative ideas underneath

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<v Speaker 1>the arm of Vince. So what are we really doing well?

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<v Speaker 2>This? Well? This is also I mean you you found

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<v Speaker 2>the lane in there that I didn't even consider fully,

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<v Speaker 2>but just that, Yeah, we have hit this point where

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<v Speaker 2>like the thirty five year old plus wrestlers are for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason still trying to come up with shit, and

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<v Speaker 2>the kids are like, what if I do a super kick?

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<v Speaker 2>Like really, that's all right, I guess that's it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like what if I was arrogant? What if I was

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<v Speaker 2>a heel but a cool heel?

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<v Speaker 1>What if I was a goth girl? Oh wow?

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<v Speaker 2>What no dude, No, no, no, no, we can't. We

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<v Speaker 2>can't do that. That's way too off the beaten paths.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's not something you can have women doing wrestling.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you gonna say next? They're gonna are they

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<v Speaker 2>gonna come out to some rock music maybe where pleather

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that, that's unheard of. I've never even

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<v Speaker 2>thought that could be a possibility. But yeah, you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>right in a funny sort of way where it's like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting here going, oh, the forty year old men

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<v Speaker 2>are making unicorn and fucking videos for themselves. But then

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<v Speaker 2>also it's like, well, what are the twenty five year

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<v Speaker 2>olds doing? Fucking Jack Dettally shit, So maybe that's maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that's the problem. Maybe that well, not one of the

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<v Speaker 2>one of the many, many problems.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a few more problems going on in w

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<v Speaker 1>I just just added to.

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<v Speaker 2>The list, you know what I mean. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>where that's ranking in a family feud board, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>certainly uh certainly making there. It's making the top top ten.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's fucking It is very very it is

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<v Speaker 2>very very open ended, and they get points for being

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<v Speaker 2>clever or creative, and they also get points for having

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<v Speaker 2>a ring master, but leaving it kind of kind of

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<v Speaker 2>open like who is that? Like they could have really Christy.

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<v Speaker 1>They were meta as fucking that whole thing. Even if

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to look around that and say, looh is

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<v Speaker 1>that triple eh? It was that Vince McMahon, It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really matter, could Binari? Man, it doesn't matter, So the

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<v Speaker 1>golden chains come on. I as the whole thing was

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<v Speaker 1>just it was brutal to look at. It was brutal

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<v Speaker 1>to look at, not for the reason of creating activity,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's just more of the narrative that, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>as these people leave, they're all going to be free

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<v Speaker 1>and happier. I really hope these guys end up happier

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<v Speaker 1>on the indies. I mean, you hear about such wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>at some small promotion, and then they live happily ever after,

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<v Speaker 1>never never having to deal with financial issues or drug

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<v Speaker 1>issues or anything else like that. So I really hope

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<v Speaker 1>that their futures are wonderful and bright and maybe, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll obviously do something with the podcast, they'll expand from there,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they'll get on board some kind of network. Oh well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess not anymore, because WWE now owns that network. Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>Longer they well, dude, this is also yeah, WWE's buying

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<v Speaker 2>all this shit, and they made more than enough money too,

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<v Speaker 2>Like let's let's let's also try our best to remember

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<v Speaker 2>that like them doing the whole where basically show ponies,

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<v Speaker 2>handcuffs as people call them, right where it's a job

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<v Speaker 2>people can relate to, right, sure, Yeah, everyone that works

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<v Speaker 2>a job currently that has something resembling helthing.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, if you're not a CEO, then you understand, right, right, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all just that unicorn and we're all running away.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes we're running past the broken horns unicorn and we

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<v Speaker 2>know exactly why that person has to stay there, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we know what the deal is. But also with this

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<v Speaker 2>but also at the same time, it's like, Okay, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we can carry this positivity over into because they're own.

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<v Speaker 2>Aw it's there's pretty much no fucking way around that.

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<v Speaker 2>I will be genuinely surprised if we don't see them

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<v Speaker 2>in a w in the next what months, I mean sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but they well they have the big, the big show

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<v Speaker 2>coming up at Wembley in two weeks, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Might show up at Juggalo Championship Wrestling.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that would be You imagine if the New Day

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<v Speaker 2>showed up in the Juggalo face paint they were like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Now, that would be Actually, wouldn't they be the ultimate heels? No, seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>anime kids, you know what I mean, the non face

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<v Speaker 1>paint wearing, the people that don't do drugs and they

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<v Speaker 1>read comic books and they have a good time. They're

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<v Speaker 1>into silly characters. Like if they showed up in j

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<v Speaker 1>c W, wouldn't they kind of be the ultimate heels.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's the weird thing about the nerd culture today, right,

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<v Speaker 2>is like I don't know what they could get if

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<v Speaker 2>they were like, hey, guys, why are you doing drugs

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<v Speaker 2>and drinking? We could all sit around and play war Hammer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like probably half the Juggalos should be like I want.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, that's you ran into. But I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure they're not thinking about war Hammer.

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<v Speaker 2>So well there's I mean, I I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>assume they're all complete whiskey tango. It's gotta be some

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<v Speaker 2>there's gotta be some nerds in there. It's that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>where it is. It's spread out, the nerd the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of it just being like there was a group of

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<v Speaker 2>kids that you knew when you were younger, and it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>those are the those are the anime kids, and these

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<v Speaker 2>are the theater nerds and all that shit. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that that's what it is as much anymore. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think it's spread out. There's a division for a reason.

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<v Speaker 1>There are lines in the San Joseph. You don't cross

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking lines in the sand. There are no Juggalos

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<v Speaker 1>playing Warhammer forty K. I'm sorry, I won't have it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the one message. Yeah, that's the angriest message we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get this month, crappling the Juggalo. That's like, I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>fucking painting figures.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking idiot Oaks, Oaks, shut up.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you don't fucking know what. You don't know. Shit,

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<v Speaker 2>it's my favorite thing as him making those like little,

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<v Speaker 2>those little figures, and he's drawing the violent j paint

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<v Speaker 2>on the little figures, say.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, oh, no, Juggalos. That's what we need, some

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<v Speaker 1>Juggalo marines.

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<v Speaker 2>Ugh, oh my god, well, dude, what fun. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to say whatever, because it is actually creative to

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<v Speaker 2>some extent. Like, honestly, that was the most glass half

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<v Speaker 2>full way you could have explained this or at least

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<v Speaker 2>put it into perspective. For me, I'm glad someone's trying,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it's middle aged men and are millionaires.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when these guys leave, some of them do

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<v Speaker 1>really well for themselves. I think Cross really set a

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<v Speaker 1>precedent for a lot of people him and Scarlett when

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<v Speaker 1>they went out and he was doing his long form videos.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of that shit was so fucking meta and deep.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I hate seeing him on the Indies because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like nobody's going to attach to you. Nobody's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go back and watch all this hard work you've done

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<v Speaker 1>for fifty people. Like it's just I don't know what else,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's what I feel like, Like the Indies, it

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<v Speaker 1>was weird when when we were much younger, like in

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<v Speaker 1>the two thousands and stuff, and we were watching those

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<v Speaker 1>old CZW and IWA Mid South feuds and it was

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<v Speaker 1>always the thing that bothered me the most was yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a contingent of people that see this stuff, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was so limited. It was limited to people that

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<v Speaker 1>would fucking use rapid share and mega upload or mega download,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like that was the only way that you

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<v Speaker 1>would see a lot of these matches because they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>readily available and unless you bought things through RF video,

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<v Speaker 1>which was limited to there's really no way for you

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<v Speaker 1>to get these individual promotions videos there matches, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least not currently. You could always get something a year later.

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<v Speaker 1>But my thought process even back then was oh, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just wait five years. Let's just wait ten years when

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<v Speaker 1>everybody has to be on the internet when everything has

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<v Speaker 1>to be streamed live. And my thought was, hey, then

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be readily available for everyone. There's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be any monopolies. It's going to be impossible

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<v Speaker 1>to monopolize anything if everybody can put up their show

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<v Speaker 1>against anybody else at any timeframe. And that was another

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<v Speaker 1>thing I thought too, was like, oh, dude, the timeframe

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling shows are done, nobody's going to give a shit

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<v Speaker 1>what time it is because they're just going to you

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<v Speaker 1>can watch it whenever the fuck you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean we are seeing that with We

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<v Speaker 2>are seeing that with Netflix. We are seeing that with

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<v Speaker 2>Raw on Netflix, you know, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean to a point. But I mean that's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost too little, too late, isn't it. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix has taken Raw and they have beaten it with

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<v Speaker 1>such such copious amounts of branding and commercials. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't want to sit there and blame

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<v Speaker 1>WWE holy for this, but it's absolutely part of it

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<v Speaker 1>because they do the same thing with ESPN now and

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<v Speaker 1>now they have their own radio network, They're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do the same thing with their radio network. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>at what point does anybody else have the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>I guess in fact, or open up people's minds to

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<v Speaker 1>different types of wrestling, indie wrestling. There's no way. WWE,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've talked about this ad nauseum too. WWE puts

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<v Speaker 1>out so much content that there's no possible way that

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<v Speaker 1>you can follow these.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, unless you fall into some sort of short

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<v Speaker 2>algorithm on whatever it is, uh, you know, TikTok, Instagram,

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<v Speaker 2>any of that shit. I mean, right now, for probably

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<v Speaker 2>the first time since I was pretty young, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>now more than ever, heavy like like the hardcore scene

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<v Speaker 2>and like funny enough like slam, death metal and shit

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<v Speaker 2>like that is getting attention more in the mainstream. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's because the shit and the sound is so clippable.

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<v Speaker 2>So like the noise of like just a heavy chuggy rip,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, riff and a guy screaming yeah, people are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that catches you. That will catch your eye or your

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<v Speaker 2>ear and the ten seconds you're flipping through shit. So

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<v Speaker 2>you have a band like Peeling Flesh and they're playing

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<v Speaker 2>fucking Warped Tour where it's like, okay, so let's look

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<v Speaker 2>at the SATs here, all right, So between Jimmy Eat World,

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<v Speaker 2>we have Peeling Flesh. You're like, wait, what how did

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<v Speaker 2>they make it on the lineup? But it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's TikTok oh, because Instagram. Because it's just like

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<v Speaker 2>a quick, little, like fucking dopamine burst of music or

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<v Speaker 2>sound or whatever. And it does also fit into exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what you were just talking about with the wrestlers too,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's like they think, or a lot of them

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<v Speaker 2>I think, believe that that quick, little twelve second clip

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<v Speaker 2>or the thing that's going to catch people's eye is

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<v Speaker 2>look at me, hurt myself real good. But they don't

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<v Speaker 2>realize this is like actually something that they can come

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<v Speaker 2>up with that can catch people's eyes or ears or

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<v Speaker 2>resonate with them and that little like micro fucking burst

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<v Speaker 2>of information or just eye candy or whatever it needs

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<v Speaker 2>to be, because they're just like, look a falling off

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<v Speaker 2>a thing, and it's like, motherfucker, they're all falling off things.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's falling off things. Look, this person fell. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean anything anymore. So yeah, if you do something extra

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<v Speaker 2>fucking stupid and almost kill yourself, then you might be

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<v Speaker 2>a clip that somebody reposts ten times on Instagram or

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok and someone goes by real quick and goes, what

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking idiot, And that's it, and that's it. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the extent of your exposure and fame to the mainstream audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh wow, you clipped off a finger. Oh shit, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's the only time people pay attention to the

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<v Speaker 1>indies is when horrible Oh you you you shot a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking syringe right through his testicles. Oh that's uh, that's me, Jess.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to talk about that on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, dude, that's uh. You think about when they were

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<v Speaker 2>even talking on the Dark Side of the Ring the

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<v Speaker 2>TNA shit, right, Uh, not even the TNA shit, but

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<v Speaker 2>the Samoa Joe and necro Butcher thing. There was a

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<v Speaker 2>point where there were legitimately people on indies that had

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<v Speaker 2>an aura and a personality and like, uh, the whole

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<v Speaker 2>and I know it's so fucking cheesy, and people like

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<v Speaker 2>Tony kind of destroyed it from the gore, but like

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<v Speaker 2>the dream match idea, right, could you imagine if Samoa

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<v Speaker 2>Joe fucked the Undertaker, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And this was and this was sh grown man.

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie Guerrero fucking shows up in r o H and

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<v Speaker 1>blows everybody's mind in half. Like there was there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot Ricky Steinbout, another r o H, another r

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah r o H legends. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's like there was nothing else of course though, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was their own buzz and the characters in

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<v Speaker 1>the indies. Uh, like I don't know why he comes

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<v Speaker 1>to my mind first and foremost, but like Larry Sweeney,

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<v Speaker 1>Larry Sweeney was another one of those guys on the

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously you go to see him punk and even a

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00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:58.720
<v Speaker 1>younger Christopher Daniels, like all of these guys, Samoa, Joe,

417
00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:03.519
<v Speaker 1>Chris Hero, like all of these people, Kevin Steam, Claudio

418
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:08.200
<v Speaker 1>castic Noli. They all had big personalities on their own.

419
00:25:09.400 --> 00:25:12.279
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't the independent promotion that was making them. Obviously

420
00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:14.759
<v Speaker 1>that's where they fought. But they all had these huge

421
00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:18.839
<v Speaker 1>promotions on or these huge personalities on their own. And

422
00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:21.079
<v Speaker 1>it's almost as if there's nothing to watch on the

423
00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:24.480
<v Speaker 1>indies anymore. Dude, I don't remember the last time anyone

424
00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:27.039
<v Speaker 1>even wanted to talk to about the indies, even in

425
00:25:27.079 --> 00:25:30.480
<v Speaker 1>our chat, like nobody ever brings it up. Every once

426
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:33.599
<v Speaker 1>in a while, I'll see the little uh, the Joshi guys,

427
00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll see them popping there. Hey there's a show about

428
00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:39.559
<v Speaker 1>Tis at three in the morning. I'm like, all right, whatever,

429
00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you know.

430
00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll be there, which sounds great.

431
00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:45.839
<v Speaker 1>There's oppression happening at three in the morning.

432
00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:51.240
<v Speaker 2>I know, you want to watch Japanese schoolgirls go ye

433
00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:54.599
<v Speaker 2>and hit each other. Yeah, two o'clock in the morning.

434
00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, somebody summed it up best too. It's like,

435
00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:01.319
<v Speaker 1>why do they all wear different colored hair in different

436
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:03.880
<v Speaker 1>colored outfits? Because you'd never be able to tell one

437
00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:06.440
<v Speaker 1>from the other if they were all just in the

438
00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:07.079
<v Speaker 1>normal hair.

439
00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:10.440
<v Speaker 2>I was like, ah, dog, you're quoting me back to me, right, I.

440
00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Was saying shit, all right, I'm looking at.

441
00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:17.240
<v Speaker 2>Like one of those mean pictures with a quote from myself.

442
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:22.799
<v Speaker 2>I kind of no, no, but it is Spider Man. Yeah,

443
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:25.279
<v Speaker 2>but it is true to some extent. Like that's why

444
00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:27.680
<v Speaker 2>they reached some point with the Joshi girls, who where

445
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:29.759
<v Speaker 2>it's like, all right, you have to have purple hair,

446
00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:32.640
<v Speaker 2>you have to have green fucking hair, because you're all

447
00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:34.880
<v Speaker 2>five ft two and weigh one hundred and ten pounds

448
00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:38.079
<v Speaker 2>and go dag and just fucking yell as you hit

449
00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:42.440
<v Speaker 2>each other. There's no discerning factor to you at all.

450
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Well look at it like this though, too. I mean,

451
00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:48.440
<v Speaker 1>when we're talking about the Indies, Triple A is an

452
00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:52.559
<v Speaker 1>India at this point. True, hey, and they've done wonders

453
00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:54.400
<v Speaker 1>with what they've had with Dominic and stuff like that.

454
00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:59.039
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's interesting to me that you that you

455
00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:01.559
<v Speaker 1>would have to have chet Gable and there dominic mysterio

456
00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:04.680
<v Speaker 1>and there are others in there right in order to

457
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:07.799
<v Speaker 1>really move the idea of watching Triple A shows and

458
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>they were really good. They were really good. Jeff and

459
00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:12.839
<v Speaker 1>Lofisto covered them. They were really good shows, and I

460
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:16.000
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed watching them. But it's it's like that's the closest

461
00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:19.839
<v Speaker 1>thing we get to an indie nowadays. I know GCW

462
00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:22.720
<v Speaker 1>is hardcore and everybody watch everybody in the world watches

463
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:25.759
<v Speaker 1>GCW all the time, but I don't know anybody that's

464
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:26.440
<v Speaker 1>talking about it.

465
00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:29.599
<v Speaker 2>It's borderline unwatchable now. I mean, I've I've tried to

466
00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:32.119
<v Speaker 2>give them, you know, because it's the summer. I got time,

467
00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:35.359
<v Speaker 2>so I've tried to give give myself and them a

468
00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:38.319
<v Speaker 2>chance to get back into it. And I'm just going,

469
00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:43.519
<v Speaker 2>this is this is nothing. There's really nothing resonating with me.

470
00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:48.559
<v Speaker 2>There's no characters on this show. There's nobody that's particularly

471
00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:51.079
<v Speaker 2>jumping out to me. And I'm going, ah, there's a

472
00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:54.920
<v Speaker 2>future you know star whatever that might be a star

473
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.200
<v Speaker 2>is in like WW we could make them a star

474
00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:00.400
<v Speaker 2>or is a star as in like Mike Bailey, where

475
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:03.519
<v Speaker 2>you know AW will overbook you for years to do

476
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:05.880
<v Speaker 2>flips onto people. I don't even see that.

477
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:10.160
<v Speaker 1>TVW and Super Wrestlers, Oh you mean Shaikhara Light, I

478
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:11.960
<v Speaker 1>mean yeahs oh no.

479
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we already saw that. We've already seen that version.

480
00:28:16.200 --> 00:28:19.119
<v Speaker 2>But no, it is it is funny that just the

481
00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:22.880
<v Speaker 2>character work and those types of the bigger personalities that

482
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:25.599
<v Speaker 2>you were mentioning, Like obviously a Sweeney should jump out

483
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:29.960
<v Speaker 2>because he's like the textbook definition. He's almost like the

484
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:34.519
<v Speaker 2>indie wrestling Patrese O'Neil where you look and you just go,

485
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:39.480
<v Speaker 2>what the god damn it? Did you just miss your window? Man?

486
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>You miss your window. You were like a couple years

487
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:48.680
<v Speaker 2>off from being somebody that everyone would see and go

488
00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:53.880
<v Speaker 2>that motherfucker's great. You know, like there's very few people

489
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:58.039
<v Speaker 2>that whatever you could say about the smart wrestling fans,

490
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:00.480
<v Speaker 2>and you know, everybody's going to have their flavor of

491
00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:02.480
<v Speaker 2>ice cream and have their opinions on each other. But

492
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:05.480
<v Speaker 2>like if you go and see the Sweeteney promos from

493
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.240
<v Speaker 2>the early two thousands and you don't go, that's a

494
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:12.839
<v Speaker 2>talented guy, then I'm not sure you're particularly even remotely

495
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:15.160
<v Speaker 2>like wrestling. Yeah, he's truly.

496
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I always felt like MGF kind of bit off of

497
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Larry Sweeney. I felt like velveteen Dream kind of bit

498
00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>off of Larry Sweeney. Like there was a few careers

499
00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>that had launched over the years that I went, oh,

500
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:29.359
<v Speaker 1>they're just they're just taking old Larry Sweeney problem.

501
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:32.160
<v Speaker 2>They're getting a little sample from them, they're pulling a

502
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:35.039
<v Speaker 2>little influence from them, whatever it might be. But like,

503
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:38.599
<v Speaker 2>but mish, that's also you know when you mentioned guys

504
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:41.319
<v Speaker 2>like that, Christopher Daniels even or whatever it might be.

505
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:44.079
<v Speaker 1>Christopher Daniels was great once upon a time. I mean,

506
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:45.440
<v Speaker 1>holy shit, the guy.

507
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:49.440
<v Speaker 2>What a great voice. Yeah, but I mean, what a

508
00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:55.160
<v Speaker 2>great voice. Why isn't he a commentator? That's weird. You

509
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:58.119
<v Speaker 2>just not want to be That's all I can think of. Like,

510
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:02.480
<v Speaker 2>I know he's agenting or whatever for aw, but he

511
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.240
<v Speaker 2>was always such a good talker. He was very succinct,

512
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:11.920
<v Speaker 2>he was very clear him over a lot of other people.

513
00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:20.480
<v Speaker 2>But once again, yeah, then Christopher Daniels just sees him

514
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:22.519
<v Speaker 2>and he just goes, I don't want to become that,

515
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:27.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, like he enjoys helping people come up with

516
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:29.039
<v Speaker 2>you for a match, but he feels like if he

517
00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:31.480
<v Speaker 2>sits at that table, he's going to be drinking an

518
00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:35.759
<v Speaker 2>energy drink, texting people the whole time and miserable. Maybe

519
00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:39.839
<v Speaker 2>that's what it is, But like it is funny because

520
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:43.279
<v Speaker 2>all these people that you can mention from that time,

521
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:48.079
<v Speaker 2>the Dream Match people, Samoa, Joe and everybody. Now we're

522
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:52.440
<v Speaker 2>at a point where Adam Pearce, who was for that

523
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:55.640
<v Speaker 2>time kind of a let's let's be real. He was

524
00:30:55.720 --> 00:31:00.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of a throwaway dude like he was. People didn't

525
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:04.039
<v Speaker 2>think he was a bad wrestler. He wasn't a talented

526
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:06.799
<v Speaker 2>guy or anything, but you know, he didn't really do

527
00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:09.519
<v Speaker 2>much for himself. Now you see him and you go,

528
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:13.799
<v Speaker 2>Jesus Christ, if this guy was thirty, he'd be a star.

529
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Are you not talking about Nick?

530
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:18.160
<v Speaker 2>All? This man?

531
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Well this this old man, nick al old man? All this?

532
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:29.200
<v Speaker 2>How weird is the once? And was it you? I

533
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:30.920
<v Speaker 2>was you and Dan I was talking about with this

534
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.359
<v Speaker 2>earlier where I'm like, all this isn't even that old

535
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.319
<v Speaker 2>by what WWE is doing standards.

536
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was robbing the cradle when he hooked up

537
00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:41.960
<v Speaker 1>with Mickey Wright, like wasn't even forty eight.

538
00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:43.960
<v Speaker 2>No, no, she she was.

539
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh I don't believe that. I don't believe that at all.

540
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>No way, no way, old man, all this.

541
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>I think that's what confuses them.

542
00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:58.240
<v Speaker 1>I not even get three Joe punches says he's ninety three.

543
00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Ah Jesus christ Man.

544
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:04.599
<v Speaker 2>Right, that's what happens when you eat your vegetables. You

545
00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:05.960
<v Speaker 2>gotta eat more vegetables.

546
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:08.839
<v Speaker 1>But don't know, I'm sure they don't like it.

547
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:15.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, he's not enjoying those vegetables, but they

548
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:16.039
<v Speaker 2>are keeping him alive.

549
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh I just slow people never mind.

550
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:23.559
<v Speaker 2>Uh, well dude, he if he's what thirty eight thirty

551
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:28.519
<v Speaker 2>nine years old? Yeah, that's that's about right where most

552
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:31.480
<v Speaker 2>of the talent that's being featured on the show is,

553
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:34.759
<v Speaker 2>with the exception of like what the Judgment Day guys

554
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:38.839
<v Speaker 2>and a couple of girls right mostly right around that age.

555
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:44.240
<v Speaker 2>So showing nick All this like he's fucking Randy the

556
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Ram Robinson, it's like, you know, he's right around he's

557
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:48.559
<v Speaker 2>the same age as these people.

558
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that's kind of plan?

559
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Though?

560
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Like I wonder and I didn't get a chance to

561
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:55.400
<v Speaker 1>watch his with uh Mick file A, But do you

562
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>think that's kind of the plan that WWE wants you

563
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:02.119
<v Speaker 1>to think of Nick All this being this old old guy,

564
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>like like we're gonna have a pretend old guy instead

565
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>of using an actual old guy to fill this role.

566
00:33:11.799 --> 00:33:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Only funnier because I'm pretty sure if I remember correctly,

567
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:22.039
<v Speaker 2>this guy's younger than Roman Race. Roman's on the show

568
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:26.680
<v Speaker 2>callin see him punk old. Meanwhile, the GM is younger

569
00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:30.720
<v Speaker 2>than him, right, And he's like, am I supposed to

570
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:34.880
<v Speaker 2>be the grizzled rundown guy or whatever? I I don't

571
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:36.599
<v Speaker 2>know where I'm supposed to be with this?

572
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:39.799
<v Speaker 1>Did they think he's like some nerdy guy like a

573
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:43.839
<v Speaker 1>pencil pusher when they hired him? I guess do they

574
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:46.799
<v Speaker 1>think that Nick Aldis was getting pushed around by Billy Corgan?

575
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:47.359
<v Speaker 2>So he's got it?

576
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:49.599
<v Speaker 1>You want a five foot four guy like nobody ever

577
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:54.759
<v Speaker 1>paid attention to his matches. I know.

578
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I love the idea of just completely denying reality. Like

579
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:01.599
<v Speaker 2>it's like mister Burne with fucking who is it jose

580
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:06.319
<v Speaker 2>canseeko Sideburns or something. He's like, he's like, oh man,

581
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:08.880
<v Speaker 2>that all this guy? You know, he was just like

582
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:13.960
<v Speaker 2>an undersized indy dude that like not a lot of

583
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.199
<v Speaker 2>look to the guy, not a lot of muscle either.

584
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:19.639
<v Speaker 2>Clearly he's old as fuck. And then he and then

585
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.119
<v Speaker 2>he walks in and he's thirty eight and six feet

586
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.599
<v Speaker 2>tall in jacks, and they're like, oh, I got this guy.

587
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:36.000
<v Speaker 2>This yeah, no, look at this emaciated little shit. Oh

588
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:39.400
<v Speaker 2>don maddingly thank yeah, yeah, I forgot about it. Whatever,

589
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:43.079
<v Speaker 2>fucking give me a break thirty five years ago, if

590
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:46.639
<v Speaker 2>not older that Joe was. But no, like that's that

591
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:50.440
<v Speaker 2>is a weird thing with all this because him and

592
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Gunther there's a very very good chance that those two

593
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:57.480
<v Speaker 2>are going to have a fucking awesome match.

594
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of looking forward to it, really, I meanlet's

595
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:01.519
<v Speaker 1>get to it. I mean, I know there's a couple

596
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:03.960
<v Speaker 1>of other things we'll talk about, but we have the

597
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Summer Slam coming up this weekend. Joe, we got night one.

598
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:10.519
<v Speaker 1>We do the first and the second, starting off the

599
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:14.880
<v Speaker 1>fall season for the most part, with two nights of Summerfest.

600
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:19.760
<v Speaker 1>And uh, how are them tickets looking? Still? There's still

601
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:22.079
<v Speaker 1>plenty of room available, folks, if you want to.

602
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:26.519
<v Speaker 2>Tickets still available.

603
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and twenty of your friends, please bring bring all

604
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:35.800
<v Speaker 1>your friends. It's a summer Mania. Yeah.

605
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Do you know how funny it is for me that

606
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:40.519
<v Speaker 2>they're like, now, tickets are twenty five dollars. You're like,

607
00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:43.559
<v Speaker 2>weren't they twenty five hundred dollars?

608
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Yep?

609
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:49.599
<v Speaker 2>For WrestleMania, Like, hint, hint, hint, hint, like aren't you

610
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:53.840
<v Speaker 2>aren't you guys putting together that something is not working here,

611
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:56.679
<v Speaker 2>Things are not going well.

612
00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>There when they're pushing this like we we talked about

613
00:35:59.880 --> 00:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the long time ago. A matter of fact, there was

614
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:05.239
<v Speaker 1>all three of us, Me, you and John that wwe now,

615
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:07.800
<v Speaker 1>especially if you believe the narrative that they're going to

616
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>sell out to the Saudiast sooner than later, are going

617
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:14.079
<v Speaker 1>to push all the buttons everything they can for as

618
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:17.320
<v Speaker 1>hard as they can and squeeze out every dollar until

619
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the fans goodwill is finally finally tried up. And I

620
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:24.880
<v Speaker 1>think that this Summer Slam, especially after last WrestleMania, but

621
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:29.400
<v Speaker 1>this Summer Slam is the first results of that rotted fruit.

622
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I think the fact that people don't want to show

623
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:35.239
<v Speaker 1>up for arguably the second biggest show of the year

624
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:40.800
<v Speaker 1>really shows a dampening process of where a lot of

625
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:44.079
<v Speaker 1>fandom is versus where it was. I think people are

626
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>finally sick of it. They've got bills to pay, they

627
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:51.239
<v Speaker 1>got mouths to feed, anywhere else to go but sit

628
00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:54.239
<v Speaker 1>there for a half hearted storyline that's going to make

629
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<v Speaker 1>them feel like shit by the end of the night.

630
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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, And I hate to be a coastal elite, but

631
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:06.559
<v Speaker 2>Minnesota isn't exactly Orlando. It's not a Ruba, it's not

632
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Las Vegas. It's not Chicago, New York City, you know

633
00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:13.960
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. Like, so this idea of even being like,

634
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:16.639
<v Speaker 2>hey man, you can get tickets real cheap, and it's like,

635
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:20.920
<v Speaker 2>oh boy, let me see what the plane ticket it

636
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:25.000
<v Speaker 2>costs to go to Minnesota. It's like, I don't think

637
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:27.239
<v Speaker 2>you're selling that out a lot of people, to be

638
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:30.280
<v Speaker 2>honest with, Yeah, I just don't. I don't believe that.

639
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Even for all the bad things that people will say

640
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:35.960
<v Speaker 2>about Vegas today and for people that are from other

641
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:38.639
<v Speaker 2>parts of the country where shit is much much cheaper,

642
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:41.920
<v Speaker 2>I totally see where they're like, the Strip is a

643
00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:46.559
<v Speaker 2>fucking rip off. But I was saying this to Rod.

644
00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:50.159
<v Speaker 2>I think the other where. I'm like, at this point

645
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.960
<v Speaker 2>where people like you go on the Strip you get

646
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:56.960
<v Speaker 2>breakfast and it's sixty bucks or whatever, and I'm like, yeah,

647
00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:00.159
<v Speaker 2>if I get breakfast around me, it's fifty five. If

648
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:03.400
<v Speaker 2>it's like it's all it's everything's fucking overpriced at this point.

649
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.519
<v Speaker 1>Shit, So I'm feeling good, Yeah, I get breakfast by

650
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:07.360
<v Speaker 1>me it's five bucks.

651
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:11.639
<v Speaker 2>So well, are you talking breakfast, like just a standard

652
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:13.360
<v Speaker 2>breakfast sandwich or there where we're going.

653
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:16.039
<v Speaker 1>At, Well, you're saying a breakfast sandwich is fifty five bucks.

654
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:19.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, man, yeah, I'm not a breakfasting. I'm saying, like,

655
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.000
<v Speaker 2>I sit down breakfast, you know what I mean? Like, yeah,

656
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:25.679
<v Speaker 2>you get you get yourself a nice little lumberjack, couple eggs,

657
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:29.800
<v Speaker 2>it's bacon cut fucking coffee. Yeah, that's that's running you

658
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty bucks a plate. At this point in my area,

659
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:35.599
<v Speaker 2>it's not I'm not saying it like a brag thing.

660
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:39.480
<v Speaker 2>It sucks. But when people are like, oh, it's so

661
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:42.440
<v Speaker 2>much more, and I'm like, like five dollars more and

662
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:44.960
<v Speaker 2>you're on vacation, it's really not that big of a

663
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:47.960
<v Speaker 2>fucking difference to me. But yeah, the people still noneth

664
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:50.719
<v Speaker 2>last would rather go to a place where they go

665
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:57.000
<v Speaker 2>ooh pretty lights and things to do than Minnesota. Yeah,

666
00:38:57.039 --> 00:39:01.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, then go with a minute apples Minnesota. And

667
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:04.880
<v Speaker 2>also when yeah, it comes down to the whole tickets

668
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:07.440
<v Speaker 2>are down to twenty five bucks or whatever. Did you

669
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:10.880
<v Speaker 2>did you see the news that they released today where

670
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:15.360
<v Speaker 2>supposedly there were Netflix executives in the crowd at Monday

671
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Night ra and they were not they were not believed,

672
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:22.000
<v Speaker 2>they weren't blown away by the show. I know that's

673
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:25.719
<v Speaker 2>going to be talking to you, which I think about

674
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:30.320
<v Speaker 2>that Netflix executives where they're going, we're spending tens or

675
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:33.719
<v Speaker 2>hundreds of millions of dollars on this show, and then

676
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:38.679
<v Speaker 2>they're watching I believe that you are cursed as a

677
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:43.480
<v Speaker 2>fucking performance, and they're like, well, what's this performance leading to?

678
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:46.039
<v Speaker 2>And then they're like, Oh, isn't the guy that's a

679
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:48.840
<v Speaker 2>boxer like a beat up his fucking wife or something,

680
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:52.719
<v Speaker 2>or he's fucking a grapist or something like that. And

681
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.039
<v Speaker 2>then I go, so this is a vehicle to get

682
00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:59.639
<v Speaker 2>that guy onto television. Yeah. Some tells me Netflix wasn't

683
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:05.039
<v Speaker 2>exactly enamored and blown away and pleased with their investment

684
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:07.880
<v Speaker 2>when that's what they saw on Monday. And then they

685
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:11.920
<v Speaker 2>see or what they hear is, oh, but the tickets

686
00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:14.440
<v Speaker 2>are going crazy. We're selling these tickets for all this

687
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:16.760
<v Speaker 2>money and the crowds and blah blah blah blah blah.

688
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:18.559
<v Speaker 2>And then they look up at the screen and they're like,

689
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:22.360
<v Speaker 2>please come to Summer Slam. That costs it cost to breakfast.

690
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:27.480
<v Speaker 2>That costs breakfast. They're like, wait, what cost breakfast now

691
00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:29.440
<v Speaker 2>to go to Summer Slam? I thought it was I

692
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:31.679
<v Speaker 2>thought it was thousands of dollars to go to Summer Slam.

693
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:32.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

694
00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:35.719
<v Speaker 1>That's not even the arguments. The argument is is how

695
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:38.559
<v Speaker 1>much bad faith has wwe given the fans as far

696
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:41.719
<v Speaker 1>as storylines that they can't even find change in their

697
00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:42.480
<v Speaker 1>pocket to go.

698
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Right.

699
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Look, I understand when they're charging twenty five hundred dollars

700
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:49.400
<v Speaker 1>a seat, that's ridiculous, and you have to plan those

701
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:52.639
<v Speaker 1>expenses out, especially in today's economy, And I get that,

702
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:54.760
<v Speaker 1>and I understand that's where you're trying to come from.

703
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:57.760
<v Speaker 1>But we're at a point now that even if people

704
00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:01.119
<v Speaker 1>can't afford it, even if they can't afford going to

705
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:04.840
<v Speaker 1>WrestleMania or Summer Slam for the price of a breakfast,

706
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:12.639
<v Speaker 1>they'd still choose the breakfast every time. It's more fulfilling.

707
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Right right, You're you're getting more out of it, and

708
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:19.519
<v Speaker 2>it's less work at it's less time, and it's less effort,

709
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:21.920
<v Speaker 2>and it's actually just I'm.

710
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Going pasurable fonder memories of moon over my hammy or

711
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:29.639
<v Speaker 1>eggs over my hammy or whatever. I'm gonna have a

712
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:32.320
<v Speaker 1>fonder memory of that than I am for Night one

713
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:33.360
<v Speaker 1>of Summer Slam.

714
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, you're not You're not wrong, And I'll tell

715
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:41.920
<v Speaker 2>you this right now, all right. In the last three months,

716
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:46.360
<v Speaker 2>I think I've told at least double digit amount of

717
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:50.760
<v Speaker 2>people about the French toast that I had at Becky's

718
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:55.599
<v Speaker 2>Diner in Portland, Maine. All right, I've been telling people

719
00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:58.639
<v Speaker 2>about this French toast like I should have like a

720
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:01.119
<v Speaker 2>picture of it my wallet show to people like like

721
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:03.280
<v Speaker 2>a child, Like I'm just like, did you see this

722
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:07.920
<v Speaker 2>French toast? It's unfucking believable. I have a feeling that

723
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:10.400
<v Speaker 2>I am going to be able to say, whoa this

724
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:13.760
<v Speaker 2>French toast way more than I'm gonna be able to say,

725
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:16.480
<v Speaker 2>like you said, Night one of SummerSlam. You know, like

726
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:19.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. There's not for the next three months. I'm

727
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:21.400
<v Speaker 2>not going to be saying to people, oh my god,

728
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:25.480
<v Speaker 2>did you see the human money's on a fucking pole match.

729
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:29.000
<v Speaker 1>That's the problem. Wow, there's nothing that's lasting. I mean, seriously, look,

730
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:33.159
<v Speaker 1>may as well go down it. Night one Live Morgan

731
00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:36.960
<v Speaker 1>versus EO Sky singles match for the women's championship. Then

732
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:41.519
<v Speaker 1>we got Oba versus brock Punk versus Rhodes Nights Solo

733
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:45.239
<v Speaker 1>and Royce versus the Bloodline Gunther and all this, and

734
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>then the Bella Twins versus uh Uh and versus the

735
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:54.199
<v Speaker 1>Fatal Influence Nikki Brian Paige. Sorry, I got Is she

736
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:54.599
<v Speaker 1>a twin?

737
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Now?

738
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:57.599
<v Speaker 1>Is she a part of that?

739
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.480
<v Speaker 2>She's been taken in, She's been absorbed like the people

740
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:08.400
<v Speaker 2>absorbed twins in the womb or whatever. Yeah, by the way,

741
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:12.079
<v Speaker 2>is uh is nick all this younger than the Bella Twins?

742
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:15.079
<v Speaker 2>I think he might be. Yeah at this point, so

743
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:19.000
<v Speaker 2>you know he's he's just a grizzled you know, one

744
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:21.639
<v Speaker 2>legged pony making his way down the street, and he's

745
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:26.960
<v Speaker 2>younger than the Bella Twins. But yeah, there's a couple

746
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:30.360
<v Speaker 2>of matches that you mentioned now, because it's just in

747
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:35.360
<v Speaker 2>a vacuum, they'll be good. But are they traveled and

748
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:37.840
<v Speaker 2>sit in a giant fucking stadium and put up with

749
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:39.559
<v Speaker 2>all the ship that they would put up with good?

750
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:45.679
<v Speaker 2>I really well, I don't think so, But I mean,

751
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:48.440
<v Speaker 2>I guess we should go through the actual matches himself.

752
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:54.719
<v Speaker 1>He sure, Let's start with Obam sorry, and I need

753
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>to clarify about OLMOTHEMI. I got some pushback. Apparently my

754
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:03.320
<v Speaker 1>idea of thinking that Obafemi was a classy a classy

755
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:05.239
<v Speaker 1>man outside of the ring, and inside of the ring

756
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:09.760
<v Speaker 1>he was a savage was apparently wrong, and apparently I

757
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:14.280
<v Speaker 1>was corrected on that that he's meant to be a

758
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:19.440
<v Speaker 1>bone in the nose spear chucking Zulu warrior as he

759
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:20.559
<v Speaker 1>was in that, which.

760
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Is they totally would be doing that in twenty twenty six.

761
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:27.039
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so I was wrong. I apologize. I did not

762
00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:31.000
<v Speaker 1>realize that when he was wearing three piece suits that

763
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:33.480
<v Speaker 1>it was I was the one that didn't see him

764
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:37.519
<v Speaker 1>for what he was. So I apologize to the podcasting

765
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:38.320
<v Speaker 1>community for that.

766
00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, when we were talking about this before, man, one

767
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:47.599
<v Speaker 2>of the biggest problems is with the Obafemi character and

768
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:50.639
<v Speaker 2>where you end up with these confusions, which let's call

769
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:52.440
<v Speaker 2>it what it is. It's not confusion. For a lot

770
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:55.679
<v Speaker 2>of people. It is just like a prejudice where they

771
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:58.519
<v Speaker 2>see a black dude with an accent and that's where

772
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 2>their mind goes. There's oh yeah, true, but nothing nice.

773
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.199
<v Speaker 2>Let's put it that way. Nothing nice. They're not perceiving

774
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:12.079
<v Speaker 2>it that's like, there's a classy, smart business man. Because

775
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:12.840
<v Speaker 2>you know.

776
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:16.840
<v Speaker 1>It's weird for me to anyways, because wrestling has evolved

777
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:18.719
<v Speaker 1>in its own way that we don't think about those

778
00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:22.559
<v Speaker 1>old timey characters. Dude, if somebody showed up with block

779
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:25.159
<v Speaker 1>shoes and a samurai jacket on and be like, what

780
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:28.199
<v Speaker 1>the fuck is this? Like people don't do that, it's

781
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:33.039
<v Speaker 1>ironically right, Like shouldn't Sky Nakamora doing that ironically was

782
00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:36.039
<v Speaker 1>kind of a throwback to it. But somebody actually doing

783
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:38.880
<v Speaker 1>it and meaning to be that character, that would be

784
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:39.679
<v Speaker 1>fucking weird.

785
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:44.719
<v Speaker 2>That would genuinely be weird. You're right, it would be weird,

786
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:49.920
<v Speaker 2>not only just because of the obvious data racial implications

787
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:54.119
<v Speaker 2>of it, but there's also just this point where you go, yeah,

788
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:58.320
<v Speaker 2>no one looks like that, no one's acting like that, right,

789
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:02.599
<v Speaker 2>You're like, we have a enough exposure to the world where,

790
00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:06.719
<v Speaker 2>like the Internet has existed long enough where unless you're

791
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:10.360
<v Speaker 2>just like a complete fucking dolt, You're like, yeah, Japanese

792
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:14.480
<v Speaker 2>people just walk around dressed like in shorts and fucking

793
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:19.079
<v Speaker 2>shirts and ship you're not You're not some stupid fucking

794
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:22.199
<v Speaker 2>dumbass that you're just like, Oh, well, they're not just

795
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:26.599
<v Speaker 2>like in kimonos all day doing doing karate kicks like oh.

796
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Oba Femi was angry in NXT, didn't you know? Yeah,

797
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I know that. I didn't think he was a fucking

798
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Zulu warrior from it.

799
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:39.119
<v Speaker 2>No, because you're not an fucking idiot, you know. But

800
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:43.079
<v Speaker 2>this is also where WWE, this is where the this

801
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:48.800
<v Speaker 2>is where their shortcomings come right where there shouldn't be

802
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:53.480
<v Speaker 2>this confusion as to who or what he is, or

803
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:56.519
<v Speaker 2>what his intentions are, or the type of person or

804
00:46:56.679 --> 00:47:00.400
<v Speaker 2>character that he is, to where it's it becomes even

805
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:02.360
<v Speaker 2>the people that are watching it to choose your own

806
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:03.679
<v Speaker 2>adventure bullshit show.

807
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:06.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I because I blame the people on this one, Joe.

808
00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:09.559
<v Speaker 1>I know we hate to fucking side with WWE on

809
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:13.679
<v Speaker 1>this ship, but I gotta give WWEE their defense on

810
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:17.920
<v Speaker 1>this one. Joe. You're talking about a company that literally

811
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:22.280
<v Speaker 1>has twenty four to seven levels of information being pumped

812
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:27.039
<v Speaker 1>out by the machine at all fucking times. They have podcasts,

813
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:30.719
<v Speaker 1>they have YouTube shows, they have their own shows, they

814
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:34.519
<v Speaker 1>have a network, they have stuff on Netflix, on ESPN.

815
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:40.079
<v Speaker 1>There is enough information being pumped out now and people

816
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:43.400
<v Speaker 1>still get it wrong. Then in the eighties when a

817
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:45.119
<v Speaker 1>dude went out there with a single it and we

818
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:48.039
<v Speaker 1>all know who the fuck he was, Like, nobody made

819
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:51.599
<v Speaker 1>a mistake. Oh that's Andre the Giant. What is he?

820
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:54.119
<v Speaker 1>He's giant? Oh that's awesome.

821
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Like he's a giant, he's a Frenchman. He has a

822
00:47:57.320 --> 00:48:00.119
<v Speaker 2>manager that's a Weasley.

823
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:02.360
<v Speaker 1>But that's what I'm saying is we only got exposure,

824
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:05.280
<v Speaker 1>minute levels of exposure back in the eighties to the

825
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:09.199
<v Speaker 1>depth of who Andre the Giant was, And today like

826
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Oba Femi's doing a three hour podcast and it's like

827
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and you still don't recognize his character. I gotta fault

828
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:18.400
<v Speaker 1>people for that one a little bit, a little bit.

829
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, we also have to remember that we have lost

830
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:28.280
<v Speaker 2>we have lost like universal signs of what a good

831
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:32.199
<v Speaker 2>person is, that a bad person is or what is

832
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:36.920
<v Speaker 2>this person's personality? We can't tell anymore like that, whatever

833
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:40.480
<v Speaker 2>it might be, maybe it's the Internet, maybe it's the

834
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:46.159
<v Speaker 2>subjectivity that we've allowed to be interjected into every single

835
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:51.960
<v Speaker 2>conversation to the point that it's nonsensical. But you look

836
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:53.639
<v Speaker 2>at a guy once again, like oh, but it's like

837
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:57.360
<v Speaker 2>he's been on television now for WWE Main Roster Television

838
00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:01.000
<v Speaker 2>for like six months or so cover take right, we

839
00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:05.480
<v Speaker 2>still don't fucking know anything about him her what they've

840
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:09.440
<v Speaker 2>told us other than he is obah Femi, he is

841
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:13.280
<v Speaker 2>the Rula and I am going to kill you, brock listener,

842
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:15.559
<v Speaker 2>and I am going to murder you. And you're like,

843
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:19.320
<v Speaker 2>all right, well, anything else? You got anything else to

844
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:23.440
<v Speaker 2>tell me about this guy? Like where where's he actually from?

845
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:25.159
<v Speaker 2>Not just like we're going to announce him before he

846
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:27.880
<v Speaker 2>gets Like what's he from? How did he end up

847
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:30.480
<v Speaker 2>in ww WEE? Why does he want to be a wrestler?

848
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Why is he calling himself the ruler? Why should other

849
00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:37.679
<v Speaker 2>people call him the ruler? They are treating the booking

850
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:41.800
<v Speaker 2>of their pro wrestlers the same way that like a

851
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.599
<v Speaker 2>sleazy fucking music producer would make a boy band in

852
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:49.280
<v Speaker 2>the nineties, where I was like, we're gonna take five

853
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:53.880
<v Speaker 2>different fucking guys and you know, whichever one you like,

854
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:57.159
<v Speaker 2>that's him, whatever you like, You're like, you're like, oh,

855
00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:00.599
<v Speaker 2>I like this one that's a bad bully, or like

856
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:05.119
<v Speaker 2>I like him he seems kind of shay, Like that's

857
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:07.880
<v Speaker 2>what they want you to do. They want you to

858
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:09.960
<v Speaker 2>do all the work for them.

859
00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't I don't know about that, because you

860
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:15.199
<v Speaker 1>know what, it's everybody else's fault for not following every

861
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:19.239
<v Speaker 1>match that Obafemi's ever done. Like you don't follow his Twitter, well,

862
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:21.239
<v Speaker 1>then of course you don't know who the character is.

863
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:24.840
<v Speaker 1>You're not following him on Instagram, you're not following him

864
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:28.719
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube, you're not watching his sit down interviews with

865
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:32.199
<v Speaker 1>Stephanie McMahon, you're not listening to his his high school

866
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:35.360
<v Speaker 1>play readings like these are all your fault, that's what

867
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.599
<v Speaker 1>I hear. I hear your fault, Shoe. That's the problem

868
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:40.760
<v Speaker 1>here is that's you know, the fans, they just don't

869
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:41.239
<v Speaker 1>do enough.

870
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:44.519
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's that's really what it is. And I know

871
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:47.679
<v Speaker 2>Triple H was saying that that it's that it's clearly

872
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:51.599
<v Speaker 2>the fault of the fans, yeah, for not just loving

873
00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:52.320
<v Speaker 2>the show.

874
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Right of course, what is what is.

875
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:58.559
<v Speaker 2>Wrong with these people? We're making a thing, give us

876
00:50:58.559 --> 00:50:59.320
<v Speaker 2>all your money.

877
00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Not enough. I think that's the problem is WWE needs

878
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:06.000
<v Speaker 1>more content, and I think you know what, maybe the

879
00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:09.079
<v Speaker 1>start of it is, you know WWE Radio, We do

880
00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:12.800
<v Speaker 1>have WWE TV. Maybe we can figure out something else, right,

881
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:17.159
<v Speaker 1>like maybe like WWE Public Transit, like wherever you go.

882
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:21.119
<v Speaker 1>They just they just play old Roman reigns and Seth

883
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Rollins promos on your way to work to really get

884
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:25.440
<v Speaker 1>you pumped up for the day.

885
00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:30.719
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna start competing with the fucking local bush bus lines.

886
00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:36.400
<v Speaker 2>They just make those Dan House and ice cream trucks

887
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:38.760
<v Speaker 2>into fucking buses and they just drive around.

888
00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Seena's right. Seth Rollins elevator music. Yeah, seth Rollins sings

889
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:46.800
<v Speaker 1>the hits on your favorite elevators. Great.

890
00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:54.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just absolutely positively despise the fact

891
00:51:55.199 --> 00:51:58.639
<v Speaker 2>that now we've gotten to this point, whether it's triplets shit,

892
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:01.880
<v Speaker 2>but the way that a few talking oh well, you know,

893
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:05.880
<v Speaker 2>I just wish that the fans would apply their effort

894
00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:10.440
<v Speaker 2>that they have to dissecting the stories into being invested

895
00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:12.840
<v Speaker 2>in the characters or whatever the fuck it is. And

896
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:16.880
<v Speaker 2>it's like, that's your job, you fucking idiot. You're supposed

897
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:20.760
<v Speaker 2>to make the characters interesting. We're not supposed to go, whoa,

898
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:23.599
<v Speaker 2>I'll go far to make the characters into a thing.

899
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:25.519
<v Speaker 2>In my mind. What do you get?

900
00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:29.719
<v Speaker 1>It's because I think that you've hit the nail on

901
00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:33.719
<v Speaker 1>this head before too. It's the coddle nature of Triple

902
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:38.760
<v Speaker 1>h's management that has created this empty pitfall. It's the

903
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:41.440
<v Speaker 1>fact that, oh, just go out there and have fun,

904
00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:45.719
<v Speaker 1>guys kind of mentality that has really given us some

905
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:49.760
<v Speaker 1>lackluster creativity as far as character work, promos, and storylines go,

906
00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Whereas Vince made people afraid to sit the fuck down.

907
00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:58.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that Vince is a good guy, but

908
00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:00.519
<v Speaker 1>I am saying that Vince might have been a good manager.

909
00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:04.199
<v Speaker 1>He brought He beat the children, Joe, He beat the

910
00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:08.440
<v Speaker 1>children until they fucking learned, and apparently it worked for

911
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:11.679
<v Speaker 1>at least forty years. And she just wants to hug

912
00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:13.239
<v Speaker 1>the children. That's all he wants to do.

913
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Well. And this is the problem, dude, is I don't

914
00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:18.559
<v Speaker 2>even know if it's like he's just trying to make

915
00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:25.599
<v Speaker 2>his own hug box and on them. Yes, don't forget

916
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:27.519
<v Speaker 2>thank you, Anne, I guess make sure we know he

917
00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:34.880
<v Speaker 2>was pooping on He's an event just sitting there. He's like,

918
00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:38.199
<v Speaker 2>great promo out there. Can I shot on you later?

919
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:46.039
<v Speaker 1>No, I can either yell at you for that ship

920
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:47.920
<v Speaker 1>or I could just shot on you. Which one you want.

921
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:52.639
<v Speaker 2>And the funny thing is there's probably some people that

922
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:55.039
<v Speaker 2>are like, I'll take I'll I'll take the ladder. I'll

923
00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:57.960
<v Speaker 2>be all right. What can I hold my nose? Is

924
00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:01.559
<v Speaker 2>that all right? Uh? No, it is? It is. I

925
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:05.239
<v Speaker 2>don't even know if it's Triple H wanting to be

926
00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:08.280
<v Speaker 2>the liked guy, which for years I've contemplated, that might

927
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:08.920
<v Speaker 2>just be the thing.

928
00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:12.880
<v Speaker 1>It works, but that's the thing though, is still on

929
00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:17.079
<v Speaker 1>Vince McMahon's Terror Terror Brigade. It worked for a while

930
00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:20.320
<v Speaker 1>when Vince McMahon was finally out. We had a good

931
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:22.599
<v Speaker 1>year and a half of Triple H running the show.

932
00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:25.840
<v Speaker 1>That everything was good because they were still they were

933
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:29.199
<v Speaker 1>still recovering from all the Vince fear, you know what

934
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:29.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

935
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Like mole morale was through the roof.

936
00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:36.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, they were so happy.

937
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:39.960
<v Speaker 2>They escaped, you know, at their unicorn horns fell off too,

938
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:40.360
<v Speaker 2>all of.

939
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:43.599
<v Speaker 1>Them, all of it right, And then people got comfortable

940
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:47.280
<v Speaker 1>and then fucking and then Ari Emanuel said, you know what,

941
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:49.719
<v Speaker 1>these guys are getting paid too much to be this happy.

942
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:53.519
<v Speaker 1>Let's cut their paid raph and Triple.

943
00:54:53.320 --> 00:54:56.079
<v Speaker 2>H is like, guys, guys, uh, I hate to.

944
00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:58.199
<v Speaker 1>Tell you, but and now he was like Dave Meltzer

945
00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:01.280
<v Speaker 1>or something, but you know, I know you guys are

946
00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:04.599
<v Speaker 1>making so much money, now you're gonna only make half

947
00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:06.639
<v Speaker 1>if you want to say, here on the company, and

948
00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:08.960
<v Speaker 1>and rightfully, all these people like, but you love us,

949
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:13.119
<v Speaker 1>you you gave me the funny hug, Like what are

950
00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:15.880
<v Speaker 1>you doing? Why Why am I losing half my paycheck

951
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:19.039
<v Speaker 1>in order to stay here? Because we're just not being

952
00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:22.519
<v Speaker 1>creative enough to sell out these shows because the company

953
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:26.280
<v Speaker 1>needs more money, and since we can't find new new

954
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:30.800
<v Speaker 1>ways to etch sponsorship deals on shit, we're just gonna

955
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:32.400
<v Speaker 1>have to take the money directly from you.

956
00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Because we because we sold out to a company where

957
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:41.119
<v Speaker 2>instead of their motto being let's put on a good

958
00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:44.599
<v Speaker 2>show and make a lot of money, it's exponential growth.

959
00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:47.119
<v Speaker 2>The only thing that matters is exponential growth.

960
00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:47.519
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

961
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:51.559
<v Speaker 2>Where can we just keep putting more and more and

962
00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:54.920
<v Speaker 2>more and more money in our pockets? Well, everything else

963
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:58.800
<v Speaker 2>gets shittier and shittier. But I also think, like I don't,

964
00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe fully did that that's what it is

965
00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:04.719
<v Speaker 2>with Triple H. As much as like him wanting to

966
00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:07.159
<v Speaker 2>be liked or the fun guy or the cool guy

967
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:10.400
<v Speaker 2>or whatever the fuck it is, I really believe it

968
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:15.960
<v Speaker 2>is the corpo fucking entitlement of like, how dare these

969
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:18.400
<v Speaker 2>fucking peasants want something for their money?

970
00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:22.039
<v Speaker 1>On Monday Night? Raw, He's still taking photos with people

971
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:26.480
<v Speaker 1>when they come back from their matches. He's still hugging

972
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:30.000
<v Speaker 1>everybody that comes through the fucking thing that comes back

973
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:31.519
<v Speaker 1>into the gorilla position.

974
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:36.199
<v Speaker 2>And to some extent, And I really I'm dead serious

975
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:40.639
<v Speaker 2>about this too. The boys need to stop doing that.

976
00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Stop doing it well to Conn will give me hugs,

977
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:50.559
<v Speaker 1>Tony Conn'll give me hogs and he'll pay me money. Uh,

978
00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I can give you hugs. Uh, Like, that's the fuck?

979
00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:59.840
<v Speaker 2>What's the exchange rate on hugs from Saudi Arabia?

980
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Tony Kahan gives you one hug and one hundred thousand dollars,

981
00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you two hugs.

982
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:13.159
<v Speaker 2>Ooh, I'll give you two hugs and you go to

983
00:57:13.239 --> 00:57:15.199
<v Speaker 2>work way way more.

984
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I really do think you're right. I think it is

985
00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:20.360
<v Speaker 1>a mix of both though, as opposed to just one

986
00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:22.480
<v Speaker 1>side or the other. But you're talking about a guy

987
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:26.079
<v Speaker 1>who still celebrates every single wrestling match that happens on

988
00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:29.199
<v Speaker 1>his TV, good, bad, or indifferent. I mean, what would

989
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:32.039
<v Speaker 1>have happened back in the day, Joe if somebody had

990
00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:35.239
<v Speaker 1>a truly awful what would have happened back in the

991
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:39.639
<v Speaker 1>day if that fucking Dan Housen Joe Hendry segment went

992
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:42.239
<v Speaker 1>off and they went in the back and looked to

993
00:57:42.360 --> 00:57:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Hug Vince McMahon.

994
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:52.840
<v Speaker 2>This would have squeezed him like a fucking what was it,

995
00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Lenny or Lenny, he would have squeezed. Yes, killed them,

996
00:57:57.039 --> 00:58:01.320
<v Speaker 2>killed them via Hug. Yeah, there is there is so

997
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:07.679
<v Speaker 2>much with the god just the middle management bullshit of

998
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:12.119
<v Speaker 2>Triple Ah. The obvious like him doing it. He's gotta

999
00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:17.039
<v Speaker 2>stop doing these interviews. I get it, because it's supposed

1000
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:18.920
<v Speaker 2>to be where we're all supposed to buy that. He's

1001
00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:22.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's Triple H. He's the legend, he's the legend,

1002
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:26.559
<v Speaker 2>and he's the face of WWE. But because he is

1003
00:58:26.760 --> 00:58:33.480
<v Speaker 2>just a toxic, pompous, fucking cunt, he makes himself sound

1004
00:58:33.639 --> 00:58:38.760
<v Speaker 2>worse and the company sound horrible. Yeah, every time he

1005
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:40.679
<v Speaker 2>does these fucking interviews.

1006
00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Its remember Covid, Yeah, remember Covid When Roman Reigns wasn't

1007
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:50.079
<v Speaker 1>going to wrestle because of his blood issues and he

1008
00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:53.679
<v Speaker 1>was just asked a simple question and he's stammered. He's

1009
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:56.719
<v Speaker 1>stammered for like a good five minutes on how to

1010
00:58:56.760 --> 00:58:59.880
<v Speaker 1>try and explain that Roman Reigns might not be at WrestleMania.

1011
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:02.639
<v Speaker 1>And it's hilarious because he.

1012
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:06.639
<v Speaker 2>Can't just say because he has blood cancer and it

1013
00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:10.519
<v Speaker 2>could make him really sick from COVID and these are

1014
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:12.000
<v Speaker 2>the reasons why he can't say it.

1015
00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, he was also terrified of using the word COVID

1016
00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:17.880
<v Speaker 1>because they didn't want to associate WWE with COVID at all,

1017
00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:21.000
<v Speaker 1>even though they were having everybody watch the show via

1018
00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:24.239
<v Speaker 1>satellite in the actual arena.

1019
00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:28.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just well, what made that even more

1020
00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:31.880
<v Speaker 2>absurd as you think of it, You go, he's so

1021
00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:34.440
<v Speaker 2>worried that someone's going to say, well, then you shouldn't

1022
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:37.000
<v Speaker 2>even have the show in general, or why are you

1023
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:39.519
<v Speaker 2>guys getting away with doing it, which, by the way,

1024
00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:43.599
<v Speaker 2>all of which were real valid points. They were in Florida.

1025
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Florida was the fucking wild wild West. It still is.

1026
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:50.559
<v Speaker 2>They don't give a fuck. No, they truly do not care.

1027
00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:54.079
<v Speaker 2>So to some extent, he could have said, yeah, we're

1028
00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:58.039
<v Speaker 2>running the show, and it'd be like, specifically for Roman,

1029
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:01.760
<v Speaker 2>who is immunocomprom this is not a good choice for

1030
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:04.119
<v Speaker 2>him to show up at the show. And like I said,

1031
01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't even that.

1032
01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:07.519
<v Speaker 1>Was the time. You gotta remember during COVID too, there

1033
01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:10.119
<v Speaker 1>was half the people that said, oh, COVID's not real, Hey,

1034
01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:14.519
<v Speaker 1>no such thing as COVID. So Triple H was, but

1035
01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:18.519
<v Speaker 1>he couldn't navigate that minefield anyways. I would think that

1036
01:00:18.559 --> 01:00:24.159
<v Speaker 1>a halfway competent talker, I guess I mean a Jim Cornett,

1037
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I think would have been fine with something like that.

1038
01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:29.639
<v Speaker 1>Paul Hayman would have been fine with something like that.

1039
01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:32.239
<v Speaker 1>There's plenty of other people in the company that could

1040
01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:35.400
<v Speaker 1>have done that interview about fucking Roman and COVID that

1041
01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:37.760
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have stammered their way through it and probably gotten

1042
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:41.760
<v Speaker 1>praised afterwards. Triple H has never been this big promo guy,

1043
01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and I get that. There's a lot of praise and

1044
01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:46.280
<v Speaker 1>respect for his career, and rightfully so in a lot

1045
01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:47.639
<v Speaker 1>of ways. I know there's a lot of people that

1046
01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:50.039
<v Speaker 1>hate his career. He booked himself to the top, and

1047
01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:54.000
<v Speaker 1>there's obviously credence to that too. I think there was

1048
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:55.840
<v Speaker 1>enough of the character. There was enough during the d

1049
01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:59.119
<v Speaker 1>X days. His work with Sean was hilarious and fun

1050
01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to watch. Individual stuff with him and Stephanie were great,

1051
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Like there are moments in Triple Ah's career that I

1052
01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:07.280
<v Speaker 1>remember back fondly as a fan, and I think that

1053
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:10.360
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of great moments that he's had. However,

1054
01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:14.360
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't immediately make him a good face of the company.

1055
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:16.960
<v Speaker 1>If he still wants to be the guy in the

1056
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:20.159
<v Speaker 1>back hugging everyone and telling them, like as like the

1057
01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:22.760
<v Speaker 1>head coach, what a good job they did. Let him

1058
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:26.360
<v Speaker 1>be that. Find somebody else. Matter of fact, why on

1059
01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:29.239
<v Speaker 1>the fuck is in Stephanie McMahon the face of the company.

1060
01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Clearly she's involved with the company. Still, why is it

1061
01:01:33.960 --> 01:01:36.039
<v Speaker 1>Nick Conn? Although I think Nick Conn has got to

1062
01:01:36.039 --> 01:01:38.559
<v Speaker 1>be tearing his hair out because I'm sure fucking Ari

1063
01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Emmanuel and the rest of TKO are just like, uh so,

1064
01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:44.559
<v Speaker 1>what else are you doing for us for money? What

1065
01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:46.760
<v Speaker 1>other ways you're gonna find money for us? So Nick

1066
01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Conn has got to be like one stage away from

1067
01:01:48.719 --> 01:01:51.440
<v Speaker 1>a heart attack. You know, he's.

1068
01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:55.800
<v Speaker 2>He's he's looking at it, going, God, damn it, I

1069
01:01:55.920 --> 01:01:59.320
<v Speaker 2>have how much money? Like, I wouldn't be shocked if

1070
01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:02.800
<v Speaker 2>in year or two, I'm assuming that they just don't

1071
01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:05.639
<v Speaker 2>tell it to the Saudis, which I'm still it's fairly

1072
01:02:05.679 --> 01:02:08.280
<v Speaker 2>convinced that's what's gonna happen in Wrestlata this year. But

1073
01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:13.000
<v Speaker 2>he might just say, em, I'm good, Yeah, I need

1074
01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:16.360
<v Speaker 2>to be doing this anymore. I've made more than enough money.

1075
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:19.400
<v Speaker 2>He'll be into his fifties by that point. Which if

1076
01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:22.119
<v Speaker 2>you're fifty five years old and have like one hundred

1077
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:27.840
<v Speaker 2>million dollars, why are you going to work? Cut it out?

1078
01:02:28.199 --> 01:02:31.519
<v Speaker 2>You could fucking die tomorrow, dude. Like, it's like you're

1079
01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:35.039
<v Speaker 2>not twenty five years old anymore. Shit happens, you know,

1080
01:02:35.199 --> 01:02:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Like you might as well just be like, maybe I

1081
01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:42.360
<v Speaker 2>should take my one hundred million dollars and go enjoy

1082
01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:45.639
<v Speaker 2>my life, which whether it goes on for another ten

1083
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:48.119
<v Speaker 2>or twenty or thirty years, I should probably go have

1084
01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:52.239
<v Speaker 2>some fun, you know. But it's just it's very it's

1085
01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:55.519
<v Speaker 2>very strange to me that Triple Ah comes up with

1086
01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:59.599
<v Speaker 2>new ways to make himself look like shit to make

1087
01:02:59.639 --> 01:03:01.679
<v Speaker 2>the com and he looks like complete shit.

1088
01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:04.320
<v Speaker 1>But that's the funing is. He's not Press Joe. He

1089
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:07.559
<v Speaker 1>went out there confidently thinking this is a good way

1090
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:09.880
<v Speaker 1>to tell people to relax and have a good time.

1091
01:03:11.159 --> 01:03:14.559
<v Speaker 1>It's endearing, right people. Yeah, that's only when I when

1092
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:16.119
<v Speaker 1>I tell them that chill the fuck out.

1093
01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, someone needs to show Triple H Tom Segurora, just

1094
01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:25.519
<v Speaker 2>show him that. I'd be like, listen, if you don't

1095
01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:29.599
<v Speaker 2>like WWEE, it's because you're lazy, so your mindset is bad.

1096
01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Bill burmelt down after fucking SORDI.

1097
01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:35.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, this is what you sound like. You

1098
01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:39.760
<v Speaker 2>hear that, that's you. That's you. That's how you're coming off.

1099
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:44.440
<v Speaker 2>And I must say, too, who is not helping Triple

1100
01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:49.599
<v Speaker 2>H unintentionally? Like just it's not on him at all

1101
01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:54.239
<v Speaker 2>because he's doing his own thing. But every single time

1102
01:03:54.719 --> 01:04:01.079
<v Speaker 2>I hear John Cena speak, I go, there's there's so

1103
01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:05.079
<v Speaker 2>few people that can do this. There's so few people

1104
01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:08.920
<v Speaker 2>that have the skill that he has and the ability

1105
01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:12.800
<v Speaker 2>to connect with people and listen and have the right

1106
01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:17.760
<v Speaker 2>answer and approach things from a positive way and not

1107
01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:20.960
<v Speaker 2>be afraid of like oh I'm gonna look this way

1108
01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:23.400
<v Speaker 2>or like what about me? Blah blah blah blah blah.

1109
01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:28.559
<v Speaker 2>He moves with such confidence and conviction that you see that,

1110
01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:31.440
<v Speaker 2>and then you see Triple H go on a show

1111
01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:33.840
<v Speaker 2>and do it. I don't know why these fucking idiots

1112
01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:36.079
<v Speaker 2>don't just like their pig vomits do you want to

1113
01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:38.119
<v Speaker 2>see your pig vomit idiots?

1114
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Like I think it's because Sina has had enough training

1115
01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:45.280
<v Speaker 1>outside of WWE, where Triple H hasn't. I know, Triple

1116
01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:52.559
<v Speaker 1>He's also a good big movies like The Chaperona, But

1117
01:04:52.639 --> 01:04:54.840
<v Speaker 1>John Cena has, I mean, he was a what a

1118
01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:58.519
<v Speaker 1>fucking ambassador between US and China, Like you have to

1119
01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:03.159
<v Speaker 1>be socially aware if you can convey messages in multiple

1120
01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:07.480
<v Speaker 1>languages and still be liked universally, like John Sena's on

1121
01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:10.679
<v Speaker 1>a different level as far as just a conversation goes.

1122
01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:15.199
<v Speaker 1>When he was talking about the Vince McMahon stuff, I was,

1123
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:17.760
<v Speaker 1>and I know, we go back and we kind of

1124
01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:20.480
<v Speaker 1>ripped on him for not being able to take a

1125
01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:22.639
<v Speaker 1>side or not being able to say anything forward. But

1126
01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:25.639
<v Speaker 1>in hindsight you look back and you're like, Wow, he

1127
01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:30.440
<v Speaker 1>navigated that whole thing without without shitting on anyone, and

1128
01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll know pun intended and he got away with it

1129
01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:39.599
<v Speaker 1>without the media crucifying him too. So John Cena is experienced,

1130
01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:41.400
<v Speaker 1>and once upon a time I thought that, you know,

1131
01:05:41.480 --> 01:05:43.239
<v Speaker 1>the only other person that was a better talker than

1132
01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:45.880
<v Speaker 1>John Cena when it came to the public was the

1133
01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Rock and yeah, that's kind of changed over the years.

1134
01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:52.920
<v Speaker 1>And who knows, maybe seen the time will come, maybe

1135
01:05:52.920 --> 01:05:55.639
<v Speaker 1>he's maybe Seena'll hit the big five to five or

1136
01:05:55.639 --> 01:06:01.480
<v Speaker 1>something and he'll just go, ah, fuck all those these

1137
01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:04.519
<v Speaker 1>uh Jesus, pick a race. I don't know, like you.

1138
01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Know, see, you better not put a Cramer moment on Sina.

1139
01:06:10.679 --> 01:06:12.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to hear none of that. Yeah, yeah,

1140
01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:15.320
<v Speaker 2>I like seeing him more now than I ever liked

1141
01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:18.840
<v Speaker 2>him as a wrestler, honest to God like now looking at.

1142
01:06:18.800 --> 01:06:22.519
<v Speaker 1>Him because there's no interview, there's there's no value to

1143
01:06:22.599 --> 01:06:25.599
<v Speaker 1>him anymore. There's no okay, maybe value is the wrong word.

1144
01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:28.440
<v Speaker 1>There's no consequences of John Cena anymore.

1145
01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:29.840
<v Speaker 2>That's sair.

1146
01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:34.320
<v Speaker 1>He's not being pushed in the Roman reign slot. You know,

1147
01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:38.119
<v Speaker 1>who knows Joe here, maybe Roman reigns when this is

1148
01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:40.840
<v Speaker 1>all over, you know, give him ten years away from

1149
01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:44.039
<v Speaker 1>the company, maybe he'll become a Paul Hamon level talker.

1150
01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he'll know he won't.

1151
01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:54.480
<v Speaker 2>No, no, sir, I'm not gonna allow that level of

1152
01:06:54.599 --> 01:06:58.440
<v Speaker 2>bind optim occasion, all right, that ain't that ain't gonna happen,

1153
01:06:58.960 --> 01:07:03.760
<v Speaker 2>you know what. Honest to fucking God like it's always

1154
01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:06.719
<v Speaker 2>the you gotta see something, something's got to get way

1155
01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:10.280
<v Speaker 2>worse before you realize what you had before. And that's

1156
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:13.639
<v Speaker 2>really what it is with with Roman and Sina, is

1157
01:07:13.679 --> 01:07:16.239
<v Speaker 2>honest to God, like it's like, you know what, the

1158
01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:19.719
<v Speaker 2>three thousandth match, or if you're having a brightly colored fucking

1159
01:07:19.800 --> 01:07:23.480
<v Speaker 2>shirt screaming spots at a guy and then winning in

1160
01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:27.679
<v Speaker 2>seven minutes, I'll still take that over fucking Roman reigns.

1161
01:07:27.719 --> 01:07:36.280
<v Speaker 2>At least John Cina ran to the fucking rings. Jesus right, yeah.

1162
01:07:36.119 --> 01:07:38.119
<v Speaker 1>Hey, let's get through night one. Uh, we've got to

1163
01:07:38.159 --> 01:07:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Live Morgan versus Eo Sky singles match for the Women's

1164
01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:42.400
<v Speaker 1>World Championship.

1165
01:07:42.480 --> 01:07:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Joe who cares? Uh, it's EO retains, right, So that

1166
01:07:53.800 --> 01:07:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Wayverquel and they can start telling the story. Oh I

1167
01:07:58.440 --> 01:08:01.920
<v Speaker 2>forgot my bed EO wins. Yeah, that's how much I

1168
01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:05.440
<v Speaker 2>give a fuck about that woman's title right now? All right?

1169
01:08:05.480 --> 01:08:08.920
<v Speaker 2>So EO wins it. So that way Live can start

1170
01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:11.440
<v Speaker 2>a storyline about having some sort of jealousy torch for

1171
01:08:11.559 --> 01:08:16.800
<v Speaker 2>cal Is that the is that the way of presenting this? No?

1172
01:08:16.840 --> 01:08:20.239
<v Speaker 1>I think I think hold onto it. I mean, what

1173
01:08:20.239 --> 01:08:21.039
<v Speaker 1>else are they gonna do?

1174
01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:22.479
<v Speaker 2>You know?

1175
01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I think live little Little Love lit hold on.

1176
01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:28.279
<v Speaker 1>She was just talking about something in an interview too.

1177
01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:34.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna hold it a thousand days, oh, I mean she.

1178
01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Roman, Yeah, sure, Livy have fun. I I mean considering.

1179
01:08:39.560 --> 01:08:46.800
<v Speaker 2>I just completely forgot always a good sign for for

1180
01:08:46.920 --> 01:08:50.640
<v Speaker 2>me and for her. I yea, that's fine.

1181
01:08:51.640 --> 01:08:55.880
<v Speaker 1>We got uh Oba Simba versus brock Lesnar.

1182
01:08:57.479 --> 01:09:00.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't Yeah, I don't know as will Oba be

1183
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:03.079
<v Speaker 2>able to according to some of the people in the audience,

1184
01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:05.840
<v Speaker 2>will even be able to get into the cage, just

1185
01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:06.920
<v Speaker 2>even know what a cage is.

1186
01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you could just chew on that for a little bit.

1187
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, just yeah, nothing weird about people put whatever.

1188
01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh If Oba doesn't win this, what the fuck are

1189
01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:20.239
<v Speaker 2>we doing with ourselves? I mean, truly, if this is

1190
01:09:20.279 --> 01:09:20.840
<v Speaker 2>supposed to.

1191
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Be, I don't think seems to win. I think Oba's

1192
01:09:23.840 --> 01:09:27.760
<v Speaker 1>shown himself to be such shit lately. My entire view

1193
01:09:27.800 --> 01:09:30.600
<v Speaker 1>on this, I want Brock to win now. I want

1194
01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:33.399
<v Speaker 1>to I want Brock to win. I'm already fucking ready

1195
01:09:33.399 --> 01:09:36.720
<v Speaker 1>to just bail on Hoba. Femi. The way this character

1196
01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:40.159
<v Speaker 1>is so wishy, washy and so weak looking, and the

1197
01:09:40.199 --> 01:09:42.800
<v Speaker 1>only way he gets over is by screaming big words

1198
01:09:42.800 --> 01:09:45.800
<v Speaker 1>but the simplest things just to feed him. It's just

1199
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:51.279
<v Speaker 1>it's he looks weak and pounding on little fucking NXT

1200
01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:53.720
<v Speaker 1>kids every week is just not doing it for me.

1201
01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:59.720
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not crazy about I'm not crazy about that

1202
01:09:59.800 --> 01:10:02.159
<v Speaker 2>be and his thing, and so you're right, he just

1203
01:10:02.199 --> 01:10:04.720
<v Speaker 2>beats up a bunch of fucking security guards and shit,

1204
01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:09.800
<v Speaker 2>did did they just completely forget? I know that I

1205
01:10:09.880 --> 01:10:12.640
<v Speaker 2>say this a thousand times a week at this point,

1206
01:10:13.119 --> 01:10:15.960
<v Speaker 2>but did they just completely forget what a baby face

1207
01:10:16.039 --> 01:10:20.479
<v Speaker 2>and a heel is on every level to where it's like, well,

1208
01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Obah's big and tough, so the best way to show

1209
01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:28.239
<v Speaker 2>he's big and tough is to bully smaller people like

1210
01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:32.800
<v Speaker 2>huh wait, do you guys do you guys even like,

1211
01:10:32.840 --> 01:10:36.000
<v Speaker 2>do you guys even remember watching Nickelodeon? Like what?

1212
01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:37.279
<v Speaker 3>Who?

1213
01:10:37.279 --> 01:10:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Who is writing this? Where you're like, all right, so

1214
01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:42.520
<v Speaker 2>here's the thing. We want to take the six foot five,

1215
01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:46.079
<v Speaker 2>three hundred pound guy that's supposed to be scary and

1216
01:10:46.119 --> 01:10:50.359
<v Speaker 2>imposing but also at his heart a good natured guy

1217
01:10:50.760 --> 01:10:54.039
<v Speaker 2>who is trying his best and wants to overcome this

1218
01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:57.920
<v Speaker 2>other guy. Why don't we have him? Looks at paper

1219
01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:04.039
<v Speaker 2>mutilate one hundred and fifty pound guys constantly that are

1220
01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:07.319
<v Speaker 2>that are just hanging around. Should we just do that?

1221
01:11:08.199 --> 01:11:11.479
<v Speaker 2>It was like, it is so fucking idiotic, and you

1222
01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:14.760
<v Speaker 2>probably and honestly, I could see at this point too,

1223
01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Brock's at his house, you know, technically he's in his hometown. Right,

1224
01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:22.479
<v Speaker 2>this is Brock's house. He could come out get a

1225
01:11:22.520 --> 01:11:26.840
<v Speaker 2>huge ovation. Oba could get his Oba chant with his

1226
01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Oba dance. Right, there's Oba arms and he comes out

1227
01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:32.439
<v Speaker 2>and the people loved you in the little song and

1228
01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:36.560
<v Speaker 2>dance because now it's a karaoke show anyways, And then

1229
01:11:36.560 --> 01:11:38.800
<v Speaker 2>when the match starts happening, they could turn on him

1230
01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:42.880
<v Speaker 2>and start charing for Brock. It's a real possibility.

1231
01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:46.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he is in Minnesota too, Like that's.

1232
01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:50.000
<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying. Yeah, there's a real possibility that they've

1233
01:11:50.079 --> 01:11:53.520
<v Speaker 2>already fucking they've fucked Oba up to the point where

1234
01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:56.880
<v Speaker 2>he's just an entrance. And if you put him in

1235
01:11:56.920 --> 01:12:00.399
<v Speaker 2>there against a guy like Brock, who they've actually you know,

1236
01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:03.520
<v Speaker 2>done something with and you has had character work and

1237
01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:08.960
<v Speaker 2>a relationship with the audience for thirty years or whatever. Yeah, yeah,

1238
01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I could see him getting cheered in this match and

1239
01:12:11.079 --> 01:12:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Noba getting booed.

1240
01:12:13.800 --> 01:12:16.039
<v Speaker 1>Don Seen is right. I think you can give Oba

1241
01:12:16.159 --> 01:12:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Dan Housen his manager. Uh, I think that'll help.

1242
01:12:21.520 --> 01:12:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he should just start beating the shit out of

1243
01:12:23.640 --> 01:12:27.199
<v Speaker 2>him and then go I am a baby face, I

1244
01:12:27.239 --> 01:12:28.079
<v Speaker 2>am a good guy.

1245
01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:31.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm tired of already. Man, I fucking hate it. I

1246
01:12:31.079 --> 01:12:33.119
<v Speaker 1>really liked the guy coming out there. He had fucking

1247
01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:35.560
<v Speaker 1>great energy. I thought that it was gonna be a

1248
01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:38.520
<v Speaker 1>breath of fresh air. He gave me Bobby Lashley vibes.

1249
01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:41.720
<v Speaker 1>A little bit, he gave me some Bobby Lashley vibes.

1250
01:12:41.359 --> 01:12:46.359
<v Speaker 2>And now they're treating he gave you Bobby Lashley vibes.

1251
01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:49.039
<v Speaker 2>And now, unfortunately, it looks like it's heading in the

1252
01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:53.880
<v Speaker 2>trajectory of Bobby Lashley's first push, which was look at

1253
01:12:53.920 --> 01:12:58.079
<v Speaker 2>this big, giant, intimidating, tough guy, and then eventually they

1254
01:12:58.159 --> 01:13:01.479
<v Speaker 2>just completely abandoned ship. And six months time and.

1255
01:13:02.720 --> 01:13:06.319
<v Speaker 1>Brock Brock is losing. Brock wants to get the fuck out.

1256
01:13:06.600 --> 01:13:09.359
<v Speaker 1>I think Brock can win and still get the fuck out.

1257
01:13:11.960 --> 01:13:17.079
<v Speaker 1>Wins and the leaves wins and leaves. Yeah, I'm leaving goodnight. Yeah,

1258
01:13:17.199 --> 01:13:20.039
<v Speaker 1>I'll show up at WrestleMania for that last paycheck. Thanks.

1259
01:13:20.680 --> 01:13:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh. He's like, I don't know if I want to

1260
01:13:23.039 --> 01:13:26.039
<v Speaker 2>fly to Saudi Arabia. What's the WrestleMania after that? And

1261
01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:28.960
<v Speaker 2>they're like, probably Saudi Arabia again, and he's like a ship,

1262
01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:33.000
<v Speaker 2>all right, I guess I'll let's do this one. Uh man, Yeah,

1263
01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:36.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know. I'm gonna just pick oh. But

1264
01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:39.800
<v Speaker 2>just because I want to assume that the company is

1265
01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:44.079
<v Speaker 2>going to feign wanting to build stars. That's my glass

1266
01:13:44.079 --> 01:13:45.039
<v Speaker 2>half vault right there.

1267
01:13:45.079 --> 01:13:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Cool? Uh seam Punk versus Cody Rhodes singles match for

1268
01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:53.039
<v Speaker 1>the w w E Championship.

1269
01:13:54.399 --> 01:13:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Punk probably, I assume Punk retains.

1270
01:13:57.079 --> 01:13:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Of course, there's no reason for Cody to win.

1271
01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:05.479
<v Speaker 2>No, that's it. That'll be a good match. I mean

1272
01:14:05.479 --> 01:14:07.840
<v Speaker 2>that's really That's all there is to really say about it.

1273
01:14:08.119 --> 01:14:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, truly, it's just you have these two guys.

1274
01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:14.720
<v Speaker 2>They're both baby faces. At least for now, I'll just

1275
01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:18.159
<v Speaker 2>talk about turning Cody. I'm like, well, once again, we

1276
01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:21.239
<v Speaker 2>have a show where that doesn't matter. So you can

1277
01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:24.560
<v Speaker 2>just show up one day and be a complete repugnant

1278
01:14:24.560 --> 01:14:26.720
<v Speaker 2>asshole to people and then you'll get cheered by eighty

1279
01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:29.840
<v Speaker 2>percent of the audience. Anyways, so what are we turning?

1280
01:14:30.079 --> 01:14:31.960
<v Speaker 2>By the way, if you we're at the point where

1281
01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:33.960
<v Speaker 2>you could say, hey, we're going to turn Cody full

1282
01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:36.720
<v Speaker 2>heel and he comes out smoking the garden and people

1283
01:14:36.760 --> 01:14:39.600
<v Speaker 2>start cheering him. So it doesn't even fucking matter with

1284
01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:41.800
<v Speaker 2>this dip shit audience that's watching it half the time.

1285
01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:45.199
<v Speaker 1>Anyways, that's their fault, Joe. WWE gives them enough information.

1286
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:49.039
<v Speaker 1>You can buy the WWF magazine, Joe. They have WWF

1287
01:14:49.479 --> 01:14:55.800
<v Speaker 1>WWE T Radio, WWF cards too. Fuck guys, Jesus.

1288
01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:57.399
<v Speaker 2>I heard that if at this point, if you go

1289
01:14:57.600 --> 01:15:01.720
<v Speaker 2>into the Asian Food go to the Super eight market,

1290
01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:06.640
<v Speaker 2>they sell fortune cookies full of w W ree would yet, Yeah,

1291
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:08.800
<v Speaker 2>you open them and next where you learn out new

1292
01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:11.760
<v Speaker 2>information about the people that they brought up from NXT

1293
01:15:11.880 --> 01:15:16.359
<v Speaker 2>that they didn't bother giving you television time for. Uh yeah,

1294
01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I assume Punk is going to retain. This just seems

1295
01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:23.119
<v Speaker 2>pretty pretty basic, right La. It's not even the main

1296
01:15:23.119 --> 01:15:24.079
<v Speaker 2>event either.

1297
01:15:23.880 --> 01:15:29.159
<v Speaker 1>So solo Royce versus Jacob Jay and Jimmy six man

1298
01:15:29.159 --> 01:15:29.720
<v Speaker 1>tag match.

1299
01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Only a fool, Only a fool would take La Knight's

1300
01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:42.920
<v Speaker 2>team in this match. I'm just saying, only a fool

1301
01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:47.520
<v Speaker 2>would do that because clearly the audience doesn't really know

1302
01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:49.560
<v Speaker 2>who the fuck Royce Keys is. Look another guy that

1303
01:15:49.640 --> 01:15:51.720
<v Speaker 2>just randomly showed up that they've told you almost nothing

1304
01:15:51.760 --> 01:15:56.479
<v Speaker 2>about and developed no character, but expect you to cheer. Obviously,

1305
01:15:56.520 --> 01:15:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Solo is doing a good job. Solo's doing good work,

1306
01:15:58.880 --> 01:16:02.079
<v Speaker 2>but no good deed goes on punish. And another testament

1307
01:16:02.159 --> 01:16:05.960
<v Speaker 2>to that is, of course, at late night, Jay Uso

1308
01:16:06.039 --> 01:16:08.079
<v Speaker 2>will come out still doing his wave your hands in

1309
01:16:08.119 --> 01:16:10.359
<v Speaker 2>the air like you just don't care act, and the

1310
01:16:10.399 --> 01:16:14.039
<v Speaker 2>people will react to that. I don't know, I'm just

1311
01:16:14.039 --> 01:16:16.039
<v Speaker 2>the safe bet in this match, is the USO's I

1312
01:16:16.079 --> 01:16:21.960
<v Speaker 2>believe right, USO's in Jacob. Yeah, it seems pretty obvious.

1313
01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:22.039
<v Speaker 1>I think.

1314
01:16:22.079 --> 01:16:24.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it would be nice. It'd be nice if

1315
01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:27.600
<v Speaker 2>if Solo Sekoa got to pin Jimmy or something. But

1316
01:16:27.720 --> 01:16:29.560
<v Speaker 2>do I think it's gonna happen. No, probably not.

1317
01:16:29.680 --> 01:16:35.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, got uh Gunther versus all this singles match.

1318
01:16:37.159 --> 01:16:40.319
<v Speaker 1>I guess Gunther's retiring Nick all this because Nicholas is

1319
01:16:41.199 --> 01:16:45.199
<v Speaker 1>turning sixty nine in February, so they want to get

1320
01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:47.000
<v Speaker 1>him home. They want to get him home before you know,

1321
01:16:47.039 --> 01:16:51.640
<v Speaker 1>he starts slipping of mind. So yeah, guns gun. There's

1322
01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:53.279
<v Speaker 1>going to be his last match. I think it's his

1323
01:16:53.479 --> 01:16:55.000
<v Speaker 1>retirement match for nick All this.

1324
01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:59.920
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I know the way that they're talking about

1325
01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Nick All this where it's like once again, I don't've

1326
01:17:02.039 --> 01:17:03.920
<v Speaker 2>beating a stroke to death. But it's like when they

1327
01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:07.039
<v Speaker 2>talk about NBA players and they're like this thirty two

1328
01:17:07.119 --> 01:17:10.159
<v Speaker 2>year old veteran, time to send him out to pasture

1329
01:17:10.880 --> 01:17:14.399
<v Speaker 2>this elderly man, he's almost done. He can't play the

1330
01:17:14.399 --> 01:17:17.960
<v Speaker 2>basket hoops anymore. He's almost thirty three. This is ridiculous.

1331
01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, that's That's the funny thing in this is

1332
01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:25.439
<v Speaker 2>that is almost the presentation where it's you know, he's

1333
01:17:25.439 --> 01:17:28.680
<v Speaker 2>only going to get this one big shot and uh,

1334
01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:30.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, will he ever be able to do it?

1335
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:33.880
<v Speaker 2>And it's like he's not gonna beat Dunk. I mean,

1336
01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:36.520
<v Speaker 2>we all fucking pretty much know that to be true.

1337
01:17:37.000 --> 01:17:40.560
<v Speaker 1>But honest, honestly, can I be honest I think that

1338
01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:43.520
<v Speaker 1>this is going to be the surprise. I think, yeah,

1339
01:17:43.560 --> 01:17:46.760
<v Speaker 1>this might win it. Yeah, I don't know this. I

1340
01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:49.399
<v Speaker 1>have this feeling like that's the narrative that's being pushed,

1341
01:17:50.039 --> 01:17:52.199
<v Speaker 1>is that for some reason, all this is really old

1342
01:17:52.640 --> 01:17:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and like not not ready to step into a wrestling

1343
01:17:55.680 --> 01:17:59.079
<v Speaker 1>ring again at his age, and I'm thinking that this

1344
01:17:59.239 --> 01:18:02.119
<v Speaker 1>is going to be that moment where, you know, Nick

1345
01:18:02.199 --> 01:18:04.920
<v Speaker 1>All this proves himself, shows up a lot of people,

1346
01:18:05.239 --> 01:18:07.239
<v Speaker 1>me even shows up Gunther a little bit. You know

1347
01:18:07.279 --> 01:18:07.600
<v Speaker 1>what I mean?

1348
01:18:07.640 --> 01:18:09.800
<v Speaker 2>I think that is that how All this gets kind

1349
01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:12.479
<v Speaker 2>of his job back, or wins his position back in

1350
01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:15.000
<v Speaker 2>the company as a wrestler. As he said, they say,

1351
01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:17.399
<v Speaker 2>we listen, we're gonna fire you as a GM because

1352
01:18:17.439 --> 01:18:20.159
<v Speaker 2>you aren't acting right. But you can't come in here

1353
01:18:20.199 --> 01:18:22.479
<v Speaker 2>and have one wrestling match and beat Gunther and then

1354
01:18:22.479 --> 01:18:24.640
<v Speaker 2>we let you walk out the door, right, you know?

1355
01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:29.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, It's tough because you could really

1356
01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:34.319
<v Speaker 2>build him as a babyface in one night through having

1357
01:18:34.359 --> 01:18:39.000
<v Speaker 2>the right match and the right way against Gunther and

1358
01:18:39.479 --> 01:18:42.159
<v Speaker 2>really really give us all and still not come out

1359
01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:45.439
<v Speaker 2>on top. Or you can do that same exact match

1360
01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:48.760
<v Speaker 2>and then Gunther fucking slips up. You catch him slip

1361
01:18:48.800 --> 01:18:51.680
<v Speaker 2>and being arrogant and fucking all this gets him and

1362
01:18:51.760 --> 01:18:54.279
<v Speaker 2>you also tell a great story, right, I mean, it

1363
01:18:54.720 --> 01:18:58.119
<v Speaker 2>really does come down to, I guess who are you

1364
01:18:58.199 --> 01:19:01.039
<v Speaker 2>putting over for heels and baby face in your other

1365
01:19:01.119 --> 01:19:06.600
<v Speaker 2>main event matches where like I said, Oba and fucking Brock,

1366
01:19:06.680 --> 01:19:09.479
<v Speaker 2>where you're in this position where it's like, who's the

1367
01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:12.159
<v Speaker 2>crowd actually gonna cheer? So even if you put Oba

1368
01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:14.920
<v Speaker 2>over in the crowd, maybe the people aren't gonna lead

1369
01:19:15.319 --> 01:19:18.760
<v Speaker 2>super happy about that, or maybe someone will who knows.

1370
01:19:19.159 --> 01:19:22.920
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think Gunter loses anything in this situation

1371
01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:25.960
<v Speaker 2>by getting pinned by all this. This isn't him tapping

1372
01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:28.760
<v Speaker 2>out to jay Uso in his lime green pleathor outfit

1373
01:19:29.399 --> 01:19:32.239
<v Speaker 2>like Nick Aldos actually looks like a grown ass man

1374
01:19:32.279 --> 01:19:36.279
<v Speaker 2>that could hurt someone. So it's not sad, do you

1375
01:19:36.359 --> 01:19:39.600
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? And it also in a way

1376
01:19:39.760 --> 01:19:43.079
<v Speaker 2>kind of adds to Gunter's whole thing because or to

1377
01:19:43.159 --> 01:19:48.199
<v Speaker 2>his story and his character where he's lost so few

1378
01:19:48.279 --> 01:19:53.520
<v Speaker 2>matches to so few people that to him the idea

1379
01:19:53.640 --> 01:19:57.359
<v Speaker 2>of oh so all this comes out of retirement. I mean,

1380
01:19:57.399 --> 01:20:00.920
<v Speaker 2>he's a GM and he beat you, Like you're walking

1381
01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:03.279
<v Speaker 2>around here talking ship and you got beat by the

1382
01:20:03.359 --> 01:20:07.600
<v Speaker 2>fucking guy who was a GEM. But that that almost

1383
01:20:07.640 --> 01:20:12.000
<v Speaker 2>helps his character a little bit too, uh, I mean

1384
01:20:12.039 --> 01:20:14.680
<v Speaker 2>this could really Honestly, it seems crazy because I started

1385
01:20:14.680 --> 01:20:16.399
<v Speaker 2>out thinking to myself, it has to be Gune there.

1386
01:20:16.479 --> 01:20:17.720
<v Speaker 2>But now I kind of feel like I can go

1387
01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:20.039
<v Speaker 2>either way. I'm you know, I'm gonna go with the

1388
01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:24.439
<v Speaker 2>dark horse. I'm gonna go with all this. Okay, let's yeah,

1389
01:20:24.479 --> 01:20:26.079
<v Speaker 2>let's live dangerously, dude, live muss.

1390
01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:29.279
<v Speaker 1>You know you have the main events, the Bellots wins

1391
01:20:29.359 --> 01:20:35.319
<v Speaker 1>Nikki Bella and Brie Bella and Page bell the fatal

1392
01:20:35.399 --> 01:20:40.159
<v Speaker 1>influence of j C. Jane, Laney Reid, and fallon Henry

1393
01:20:40.199 --> 01:20:40.920
<v Speaker 1>six women tag?

1394
01:20:42.039 --> 01:20:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Why is this on the Summer Slam Guard? I mean,

1395
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:49.439
<v Speaker 2>like not even being not I'm not trying to be cheeky,

1396
01:20:49.520 --> 01:20:51.520
<v Speaker 2>but like, why is this on the Summer Slam Guard?

1397
01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Jacy Jane?

1398
01:20:58.600 --> 01:21:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Is this what happens when we don't have Is this

1399
01:21:00.920 --> 01:21:03.560
<v Speaker 2>what we have when we don't have Rya? Because we

1400
01:21:03.640 --> 01:21:05.960
<v Speaker 2>have to put the ballas back out there again against

1401
01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:08.720
<v Speaker 2>three girls that were just in developmental like five minutes ago.

1402
01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Is this what we end up in the position of.

1403
01:21:12.960 --> 01:21:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I think I think he's right though, fatal Influence wins

1404
01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:18.119
<v Speaker 1>and the ballots turn on Page Yes.

1405
01:21:18.199 --> 01:21:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that you know what That's what I think

1406
01:21:21.880 --> 01:21:25.640
<v Speaker 2>everybody's waiting for. Is that? Is that Page versus the

1407
01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:30.039
<v Speaker 2>bell is two on one jumping, leading leading to some

1408
01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:32.479
<v Speaker 2>real great stories. You know, what you got to do

1409
01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:35.880
<v Speaker 2>is if they have any faith whatsoever in Page being

1410
01:21:35.920 --> 01:21:40.359
<v Speaker 2>able to have matches that involve more than like bulldogs

1411
01:21:40.439 --> 01:21:43.720
<v Speaker 2>and fucking bag of popcorn punches, they got to get

1412
01:21:43.760 --> 01:21:46.039
<v Speaker 2>her the fuck away from the Bellis Twins and move

1413
01:21:46.079 --> 01:21:46.880
<v Speaker 2>her on to other.

1414
01:21:46.800 --> 01:21:53.239
<v Speaker 1>People like Oh boy, I don't know when Page first

1415
01:21:53.279 --> 01:21:56.239
<v Speaker 1>signed Jesus Christ.

1416
01:21:56.560 --> 01:21:58.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm at I'm at the point where I give such

1417
01:21:59.399 --> 01:22:02.760
<v Speaker 2>little issue it because clearly they don't care either. Where

1418
01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:05.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm good with like Rhya coming back from injury and

1419
01:22:05.479 --> 01:22:07.640
<v Speaker 2>just being a heel that fucking beats the shit out

1420
01:22:07.640 --> 01:22:11.960
<v Speaker 2>of everybody. Yeah, sure, I'd be plenty happy with that.

1421
01:22:12.199 --> 01:22:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Would it be great for T shirt sales? Maybe? Would

1422
01:22:16.520 --> 01:22:18.840
<v Speaker 2>it help their standing? As far as like her being

1423
01:22:18.840 --> 01:22:21.159
<v Speaker 2>a role model for little girls? I don't even think

1424
01:22:21.159 --> 01:22:23.279
<v Speaker 2>it fucking matters anymore, because who cares?

1425
01:22:24.439 --> 01:22:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Just like, pretty sure there's not so many little girls

1426
01:22:26.640 --> 01:22:33.279
<v Speaker 1>watching this anymore. Pretty sure those days are really getting

1427
01:22:33.279 --> 01:22:33.880
<v Speaker 1>behind us.

1428
01:22:35.920 --> 01:22:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, they're saying, hey, little girls, you want to

1429
01:22:38.840 --> 01:22:44.319
<v Speaker 2>come watch fucking Dan Housend and Joe Hendry And they're like, no,

1430
01:22:44.520 --> 01:22:47.039
<v Speaker 2>I think I'll just I think I'll just sit over here.

1431
01:22:47.199 --> 01:22:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Isn't that kind of the funniest thing about this is

1432
01:22:49.840 --> 01:22:52.800
<v Speaker 1>that the way that the WWE product has been booked,

1433
01:22:53.039 --> 01:22:56.439
<v Speaker 1>and even AW two a point too, but mostly WWE

1434
01:22:57.279 --> 01:23:01.960
<v Speaker 1>has become so political, so sacri in, so corporate that

1435
01:23:02.199 --> 01:23:04.880
<v Speaker 1>any type of cool factor that any of these people

1436
01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:11.000
<v Speaker 1>had is just fading away. It's bleeding away at this point.

1437
01:23:11.640 --> 01:23:15.680
<v Speaker 1>So the idea of these women getting showcase for the

1438
01:23:16.239 --> 01:23:18.520
<v Speaker 1>show for the company and stuff like that, well, once

1439
01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:20.760
<v Speaker 1>upon a time was part of the cool factor. Ria

1440
01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Ripley was part of the cool factor. You know, Sky

1441
01:23:22.960 --> 01:23:25.880
<v Speaker 1>part of the cool factor. Charlotte Flair, Bailey Becky, et cetera,

1442
01:23:25.920 --> 01:23:28.399
<v Speaker 1>et cetera. Like there were different levels, is a j

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<v Speaker 1>Lee and Page even you know, I don't know about

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01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:32.760
<v Speaker 1>the Bells, but apparently they got people that like them too.

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01:23:33.640 --> 01:23:36.159
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, the cool factor is gone for the women.

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01:23:37.079 --> 01:23:39.680
<v Speaker 1>It just feels like it. It feels like the cool

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01:23:39.720 --> 01:23:41.640
<v Speaker 1>factor is gone from the entire company.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really I'm really stuck with the idea of looking

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01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:52.600
<v Speaker 2>at this and saying, oh, no, mish because there's always

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01:23:52.680 --> 01:23:57.880
<v Speaker 2>this woman and now, I mean, yeah.

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01:23:57.800 --> 01:23:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Let's think about it.

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01:23:58.359 --> 01:24:00.279
<v Speaker 2>Who is the lays.

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01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Big fucking needle mover that they brought in Jade Cargell.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and this is what kills me about Roxy and Libra,

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01:24:09.319 --> 01:24:11.359
<v Speaker 2>which I always go back to as why do you

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01:24:11.399 --> 01:24:14.279
<v Speaker 2>present these two women the way that you do. Those

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01:24:14.319 --> 01:24:17.720
<v Speaker 2>are big sister wrestlers, do you know what I mean? Like,

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01:24:17.840 --> 01:24:22.840
<v Speaker 2>those are the perfect wrestler for if you had a

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01:24:23.039 --> 01:24:25.800
<v Speaker 2>six year old daughter that you were watching wrestling with,

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01:24:26.479 --> 01:24:29.279
<v Speaker 2>they'd looking to go. I like them. I like them

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01:24:29.560 --> 01:24:32.840
<v Speaker 2>because they remind me of the fucking my babysitter, the

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01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:35.640
<v Speaker 2>girl that fucking is a camp counselor the girl down

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01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:37.760
<v Speaker 2>the street. Like that's who they are.

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01:24:38.359 --> 01:24:41.039
<v Speaker 1>Roxy is a brawser, stunt up. Low dude, come on, like,

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01:24:41.119 --> 01:24:46.560
<v Speaker 1>let's just let's let's let's be honest on that one, Rocky.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a terrible man. Are you saying are you saying, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>she ain't getting stuck in the dryer. She's not big enough.

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01:24:52.520 --> 01:25:01.199
<v Speaker 2>She well right out that dryer. He's like, help me,

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01:25:01.479 --> 01:25:03.680
<v Speaker 2>step ro I'm stuck in the dryer. He's like, wown't

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01:25:03.680 --> 01:25:06.520
<v Speaker 2>you just back back out of it. You're fine, You're

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01:25:07.079 --> 01:25:08.399
<v Speaker 2>really small. You could just.

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe she could stuck in the dryer, Joe. Maybe

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01:25:12.640 --> 01:25:16.880
<v Speaker 1>it's actually Roxy fully in the dryer, that she.

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01:25:16.960 --> 01:25:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Crawled all the wayway. Yes, she's stuck in the pipe

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01:25:22.840 --> 01:25:28.640
<v Speaker 2>in the back of the dryer. Mhm. Is that the

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01:25:28.880 --> 01:25:32.239
<v Speaker 2>is that the the David Lynch ending, Like if David

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01:25:32.319 --> 01:25:34.359
<v Speaker 2>Lynch wrote for Brasers, that's what you do would be like.

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01:25:34.439 --> 01:25:37.600
<v Speaker 2>And then she was stuck inside the pipe in the dryer.

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01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:43.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, you just hear and then the screen goes

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01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:44.039
<v Speaker 1>to black.

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01:25:44.399 --> 01:25:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dune stop and then that's it. That's the end

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01:25:48.239 --> 01:25:53.880
<v Speaker 2>of the well. No, they there, they had Bianca. Now

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01:25:53.920 --> 01:25:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Bonca's gone, huh Rhea's out now with an injury, barely

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01:25:59.600 --> 01:26:03.039
<v Speaker 2>got years. Was like the cut, see like hug the

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01:26:03.239 --> 01:26:07.439
<v Speaker 2>hug the girls be the the now with me was.

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01:26:07.439 --> 01:26:10.319
<v Speaker 1>Their other great white hope. And Tiffany's kind of falling

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01:26:10.399 --> 01:26:15.359
<v Speaker 1>off the wagon too, but their next great white hope.

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01:26:15.359 --> 01:26:18.399
<v Speaker 1>And she's going to kill somebody if she doesn't kill herself.

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01:26:20.439 --> 01:26:25.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean. But so Ruka and Tiffany you can both tell.

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01:26:26.439 --> 01:26:28.319
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying that they're me and women. I

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01:26:28.359 --> 01:26:31.760
<v Speaker 2>don't know them, but the vibe is not the same.

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01:26:31.840 --> 01:26:34.960
<v Speaker 2>It's not a j Lee, it's not the uh, it's

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01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:39.439
<v Speaker 2>not Bianca like they they don't give off the feel

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01:26:39.479 --> 01:26:48.239
<v Speaker 2>of like this is it. Yeah, nothing more relatable than Maxine,

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01:26:49.079 --> 01:26:51.920
<v Speaker 2>elastic face, twenty eight year old girl.

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01:26:52.119 --> 01:26:58.560
<v Speaker 1>She's a lot of these TikTok girls though, Oh hooray.

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01:26:58.199 --> 01:27:01.800
<v Speaker 2>That'll really that's something different right now. Yeah. Well, but

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01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:05.760
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm saying is like that that whole genre

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01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:09.840
<v Speaker 2>of women's wrestler has completely fallen off a cliff and

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01:27:09.880 --> 01:27:15.239
<v Speaker 2>it's because of bad writing, bad booking, and them choosing

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01:27:15.880 --> 01:27:19.640
<v Speaker 2>to fight the fucking currents on people that you look

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01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:22.199
<v Speaker 2>at and they go, they look like this, this is

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01:27:22.199 --> 01:27:26.000
<v Speaker 2>their personality. Let's play into that. And they say, how

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01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:29.279
<v Speaker 2>about we uh flip it and reverse it and go

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01:27:29.319 --> 01:27:32.600
<v Speaker 2>to opposite land. But yeah, I don't know.

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01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, let's get ready to wrap it up and get

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01:27:34.800 --> 01:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>out here. We'll cover night to tomorrow. We got a

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01:27:36.640 --> 01:27:39.279
<v Speaker 1>bunch of other news to talk about it as well. Be

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01:27:39.359 --> 01:27:41.039
<v Speaker 1>a Frank and Guss will put that up on the

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01:27:41.039 --> 01:27:43.840
<v Speaker 1>main feet as well to do that. But yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>we've got tomorrow and then we've got Saturday and Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's gonna be another six hours with John Draper,

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01:27:48.399 --> 01:27:51.520
<v Speaker 1>everybody from Spitball Media. They'll be joining for at least

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01:27:51.560 --> 01:27:53.680
<v Speaker 1>one of the Smack or Smack Down, Summer Slam nights,

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01:27:53.680 --> 01:27:54.479
<v Speaker 1>maybe even smack Down.

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01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:57.880
<v Speaker 2>It's basically SmackDown. Come on, SmackDown too. Yeah, let you

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01:27:59.159 --> 01:28:01.960
<v Speaker 2>wait a second, are we? Is he coming for SmackDown

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01:28:02.039 --> 01:28:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Night three.

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<v Speaker 1>SmackDown, SmackDown Raw Aftermath like yeah, sure, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, SmackDown three the same thing as Spider Man three.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get the fuck out of your much love.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody support the show. Patroon dot com, ord slash Wrestling,

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<v Speaker 1>soup see it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a beast