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Speaker 1: Wrestling too for a mature audience.

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Speaker 2: I don't devailp oh Man. A lot of wrestler was

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talking to you earlier about this. We have been at

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a drought of random, stray wrestling shit, and then in

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like the last five days there were just we were

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gorged with wrestling news. It was interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's all a lot of little stuff. It's not anything serious.

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I think that's the biggest thing going into Summer Slam.

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You think it would be more centric around the show,

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but people care more about what's going on around the show.

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Outside of the show. Has been making more headlines than

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anything that have that has to do with Summer Slam.

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Speaker 2: So well. I mean we've just in the last what

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twenty four hours, we've had two forty year old men

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release a video of anime Unicorns that set the wrestling

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world on fire. So that right there is enough to

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just make you go, where are we? What is going on?

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How did we get here? How did this become what

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wrestling is? Where? That's the that's the news. And I

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can see Donzena is in the chat room is a

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little bit confused by that. I guess he is not

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privy to the recent New Day fucking hype video, if

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you want to call it that.

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Speaker 1: No, I haven't seen him myself yet, is it good?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Good? Good? Heavens you have not either.

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Oh all right. The only reason why I was even

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aware of this was it came up in my Instagram feed.

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So I'm sure somebody, multiple people will probably share that

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as it goes on. But there was a you know,

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similarly to what's her name, thank you street Fighter, similarly

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to what's her face? There after her ninety day period

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where she's like, I'm a woman wrestler who's got to

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wear goth clothes. So there's something new for you. The

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New Day made an animated video where they're both unicorns

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escaping from a circus.

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, let's watch this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: There they ship.

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Speaker 1: They even used uh.

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Speaker 2: Famous stock music.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, it's not stock that's not stock music. No,

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that sounds like somebody fuck sounds synthy wave.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is it.

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Speaker 1: It's two unicorns that are pink and burgundy, yes, that

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have that are in a circus with gold gold chain

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slaves on them.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: I feel like they're trying to say something with that. Joe,

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that the that the golden slave chains are are what

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they're trying to escape, and maybe this giant circus that

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looks like it's very well funded. But except in the

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back where the back you could see that there's like

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dirt on the walls and stuff. But you know, out

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in the public it looks really good. And of course,

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of course unicorns have fangs now too, by the way,

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I just want to yeah, yeah, and now they're free

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of those golden slave chains.

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Speaker 2: Oh then look look do they go past you know

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that symbolized or maybe a broken horned third unicorn?

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Speaker 1: Oh ship, Oh wow? Did they just call up? Did

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they just they just call him? That's what I see

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they are.

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Speaker 2: Wow. No, No, she's looking at him sadness.

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Speaker 1: He's been broken by the man, that's what it is. Yeah,

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he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Have the ability to escape because his horn, his magical

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unicorn horn is damaged.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's broken. Poor thing with its broken horn

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still behind it cage, you know, which, by the way,

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there's some level to that where you see it and

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you go you are kind of he's the only one

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that doesn't have shackles. Joe just saying maybe he is

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a house unicorn.

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Speaker 2: Well no, no, no, that the idea is they're not.

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They're not afraid he's gonna escape because he doesn't have

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the horn, the power.

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Speaker 1: He's a house unicorn.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, I mean the hairline was very far back

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on that unicorn. Dude, Uncle Acord. Oh my god, oh no,

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I just I saw that and I go, boy, oh boy,

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are you you're you're creating like a moment where it's like, oh,

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it's it's sad because he's watching them go and there's

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nothing you can do about it because he's broken and injured.

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That's the only place where he could be.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, you are you are being so

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sensitive to this that is hilarious. No, I think I

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think it's going to be as ugly as that. I

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would not be surprised if they show up with aw

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show up with MVP and those guys over there, and

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they do sit there, yeah, because I mean that's kind

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of been the narrative that they've been pushing for a

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minute too, is that, Hey, look, you think that WWE

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is all equal rights, equal fights and stuff like that,

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but there's a lot of racism that happens behind the

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scenes with WWE. I mean, if if I was the

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one interpreting this right, would you really be that.

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Speaker 2: Surprised if it becomes that, If it becomes that as

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a point of conversation, maybe the starting point shouldn't have

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been anime unicorns.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm that's been their thing for a while though.

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It's it's it's like doing logo shit, that's all it is.

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I mean, there's all it's. It's very meta, right where

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unicorns we're free now, we're imaginary creatures and we're free

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getting away from these golden chains. Like it's it's all interpretive.

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It feels like interpretive dance or something. And the synth

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wave stuff, I know, you say it stock. I'm trying

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to remember the guy's name, Harvey Danger, Harvey Wallbanger. I

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don't know what the fuck his name is, but yeah,

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it sounds like some synth wave shit that I was

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listening to fucking ten years ago.

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Speaker 2: Well, the band is apparently called the loopis Nope, noctee Okay,

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I pronounced that right for sure. There's no way I

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could have said that incorrectly. Hey, how about just the

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fact alone that just once again all the symbolism in there.

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Speaker 1: Can you finish watching it first, though, because I mean

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I still have like, ah, oh you didn't finish it. No,

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we've been talking, dude.

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Speaker 2: I oh jesus, Oh okay, I thought you saw the whole end,

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all right, yeah yeah, so watch watch what happened?

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Speaker 1: Curious. No, I haven't seen this at all. All right.

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So he's passing up. So the broken unicorn gives them

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the the not be free. Okay, all right, so maybe

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they're not looking down on them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they love him. They're saying that I'm going in

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spite of in spite of your being trapped here, we

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will go be free, you know.

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Speaker 1: And then they're unicorn gorns. It's superpowers. And now they're

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electrical and their eyeballs are bleeding fucking purple light, and

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they're heading towards the door. And now they switch up

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the scene and all you see is their hoof prints

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going off into the distance. Oh and now they're people again.

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Oh now they left the company, So now they're people again.

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I see. No, totally not not some kind of negative

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symbolism at all. Yeah, No, they're people.

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Speaker 2: It's a very like I said, it's a very anime thing,

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I guess, which is also once we're dealing with forty

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year old men doing it. I don't know, it's a

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little strange to me. I guess it's better than just

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being guys with a camera looking at it in their

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kitchen being like, oh really shot, but blocks, aren't you?

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Speaker 1: So that's where the money's at?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I know, I know.

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Speaker 1: There's a large contingent of people forty year olds across

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the board that watch anime now regularly. It's Is it

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any surprise that they're trying to cater to a market

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that WWE really doesn't want a part of, you know?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, believe me, I am in no way,

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shape or form surprised by any any of the pandering

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to Japanese animation. Shit. It's just also at the same

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exact time, I'm like, it's like middle aged men. It's

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just still kind of fucking.

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Speaker 1: No you are you know what, you're a hundred I said, right,

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too bad that everybody that's young in the industry has

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absolutely zero creativity.

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Speaker 2: You're right though, that's also yeah, yeah, I just say that,

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but I have.

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Speaker 1: To agree with you one, Joe. Everybody that's young in

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the industry is just dumb as fuck. They're just a

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bunch of rye backs running around eating chips, staring at

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the camera waiting for their next move. But you have

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forty year old men coming up with ideas that they

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should have came up within their twenties. But hey, maybe

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they did.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: We we say this right now, like WWE hasn't been

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full of pitfalls over the years for creative ideas underneath

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the arm of Vince. So what are we really doing well?

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Speaker 2: This? Well? This is also I mean you you found

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the lane in there that I didn't even consider fully,

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but just that, Yeah, we have hit this point where

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like the thirty five year old plus wrestlers are for

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some reason still trying to come up with shit, and

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the kids are like, what if I do a super kick?

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Like really, that's all right, I guess that's it. It's

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like what if I was arrogant? What if I was

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a heel but a cool heel?

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Speaker 1: What if I was a goth girl? Oh wow?

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Speaker 2: What no dude, No, no, no, no, we can't. We

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can't do that. That's way too off the beaten paths.

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That's that's not something you can have women doing wrestling.

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What are you gonna say next? They're gonna are they

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gonna come out to some rock music maybe where pleather

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or something like that, that's unheard of. I've never even

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thought that could be a possibility. But yeah, you're you're

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right in a funny sort of way where it's like

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I'm sitting here going, oh, the forty year old men

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are making unicorn and fucking videos for themselves. But then

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also it's like, well, what are the twenty five year

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olds doing? Fucking Jack Dettally shit, So maybe that's maybe

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that's the problem. Maybe that well, not one of the

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one of the many, many problems.

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Speaker 1: You got a few more problems going on in w

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I just just added to.

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Speaker 2: The list, you know what I mean. I don't know

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where that's ranking in a family feud board, but it's

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certainly uh certainly making there. It's making the top top ten.

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But yeah, that's fucking It is very very it is

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very very open ended, and they get points for being

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clever or creative, and they also get points for having

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a ring master, but leaving it kind of kind of

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open like who is that? Like they could have really Christy.

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Speaker 1: They were meta as fucking that whole thing. Even if

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you wanted to look around that and say, looh is

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that triple eh? It was that Vince McMahon, It doesn't

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really matter, could Binari? Man, it doesn't matter, So the

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golden chains come on. I as the whole thing was

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just it was brutal to look at. It was brutal

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to look at, not for the reason of creating activity,

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but it's it's just more of the narrative that, Look,

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WWE is a horrible place to be, and as soon

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as these people leave, they're all going to be free

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and happier. I really hope these guys end up happier

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on the indies. I mean, you hear about such wonderful

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stories about indie wrestlers, and they get their trust fall

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at some small promotion, and then they live happily ever after,

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never never having to deal with financial issues or drug

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issues or anything else like that. So I really hope

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that their futures are wonderful and bright and maybe, you know,

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they'll obviously do something with the podcast, they'll expand from there,

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maybe they'll get on board some kind of network. Oh well,

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I guess not anymore, because WWE now owns that network. Joe,

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it's no.

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Speaker 2: Longer they well, dude, this is also yeah, WWE's buying

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all this shit, and they made more than enough money too,

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Like let's let's let's also try our best to remember

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that like them doing the whole where basically show ponies,

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like the symbolism is just it's dripping, it's dripping off

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this thing golden, the golden chains, he hey, the golden

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handcuffs as people call them, right where it's a job

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where you're making a lot of money but you're not

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particularly happier into it. Wow, that's something a lot of

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people can relate to, right, sure, Yeah, everyone that works

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a job currently that has something resembling helthing.

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Speaker 1: Sure, if you're not a CEO, then you understand, right, right, that's.

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Speaker 2: We're all just that unicorn and we're all running away.

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Sometimes we're running past the broken horns unicorn and we

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know exactly why that person has to stay there, you know,

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we know what the deal is. But also with this

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but also at the same time, it's like, Okay, maybe

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we can carry this positivity over into because they're own.

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Aw it's there's pretty much no fucking way around that.

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I will be genuinely surprised if we don't see them

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in a w in the next what months, I mean sure,

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but they well they have the big, the big show

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coming up at Wembley in two weeks, right.

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Speaker 1: Might show up at Juggalo Championship Wrestling.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that would be You imagine if the New Day

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showed up in the Juggalo face paint they were like, yeah,

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we're just not even doing a w We're just we're

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just down with the clowns.

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Speaker 1: Now, that would be Actually, wouldn't they be the ultimate heels? No, seriously,

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the clean cut or not even clean cut, but the

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anime kids, you know what I mean, the non face

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paint wearing, the people that don't do drugs and they

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read comic books and they have a good time. They're

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into silly characters. Like if they showed up in j

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c W, wouldn't they kind of be the ultimate heels.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the weird thing about the nerd culture today, right,

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is like I don't know what they could get if

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they were like, hey, guys, why are you doing drugs

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and drinking? We could all sit around and play war Hammer.

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That's like probably half the Juggalos should be like I want.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's you ran into. But I'm pretty

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sure they're not thinking about war Hammer.

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Speaker 2: So well there's I mean, I I don't want to

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assume they're all complete whiskey tango. It's gotta be some

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there's gotta be some nerds in there. It's that's that's

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where it is. It's spread out, the nerd the idea

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of it just being like there was a group of

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kids that you knew when you were younger, and it's like, oh,

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those are the those are the anime kids, and these

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are the theater nerds and all that shit. I don't

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think that that's what it is as much anymore. I

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don't believe I.

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Speaker 1: Think it's spread out. There's a division for a reason.

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There are lines in the San Joseph. You don't cross

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the fucking lines in the sand. There are no Juggalos

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playing Warhammer forty K. I'm sorry, I won't have it.

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Speaker 2: That's the one message. Yeah, that's the angriest message we'll

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get this month, crappling the Juggalo. That's like, I'm like

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fucking painting figures.

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Speaker 1: Fucking idiot Oaks, Oaks, shut up.

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Speaker 2: Just you don't fucking know what. You don't know. Shit,

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it's my favorite thing as him making those like little,

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those little figures, and he's drawing the violent j paint

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on the little figures, say.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, oh, no, Juggalos. That's what we need, some

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Juggalo marines.

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Speaker 2: Ugh, oh my god, well, dude, what fun. I don't

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want to say whatever, because it is actually creative to

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some extent. Like, honestly, that was the most glass half

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full way you could have explained this or at least

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put it into perspective. For me, I'm glad someone's trying,

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even if it's middle aged men and are millionaires.

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Speaker 1: You know, when these guys leave, some of them do

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really well for themselves. I think Cross really set a

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precedent for a lot of people him and Scarlett when

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they went out and he was doing his long form videos.

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Some of that shit was so fucking meta and deep.

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It's like I hate seeing him on the Indies because

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it's like nobody's going to attach to you. Nobody's gonna

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go back and watch all this hard work you've done

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for fifty people. Like it's just I don't know what else,

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but that's what I feel like, Like the Indies, it

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was weird when when we were much younger, like in

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the two thousands and stuff, and we were watching those

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old CZW and IWA Mid South feuds and it was

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always the thing that bothered me the most was yeah,

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there's a contingent of people that see this stuff, but

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it was so limited. It was limited to people that

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would fucking use rapid share and mega upload or mega download,

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you know, like that was the only way that you

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would see a lot of these matches because they weren't

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readily available and unless you bought things through RF video,

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which was limited to there's really no way for you

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to get these individual promotions videos there matches, or at

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least not currently. You could always get something a year later.

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But my thought process even back then was oh, let's

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just wait five years. Let's just wait ten years when

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everybody has to be on the internet when everything has

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to be streamed live. And my thought was, hey, then

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it's going to be readily available for everyone. There's not

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going to be any monopolies. It's going to be impossible

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to monopolize anything if everybody can put up their show

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against anybody else at any timeframe. And that was another

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thing I thought too, was like, oh, dude, the timeframe

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wrestling shows are done, nobody's going to give a shit

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what time it is because they're just going to you

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can watch it whenever the fuck you want.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean we are seeing that with We

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are seeing that with Netflix. We are seeing that with

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Raw on Netflix, you know, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean to a point. But I mean that's like it's

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it's almost too little, too late, isn't it. I mean

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Netflix has taken Raw and they have beaten it with

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such such copious amounts of branding and commercials. And I

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don't know, I don't want to sit there and blame

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WWE holy for this, but it's absolutely part of it

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because they do the same thing with ESPN now and

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now they have their own radio network, They're going to

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do the same thing with their radio network. I mean,

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at what point does anybody else have the ability to

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I guess in fact, or open up people's minds to

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different types of wrestling, indie wrestling. There's no way. WWE,

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and we've talked about this ad nauseum too. WWE puts

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out so much content that there's no possible way that

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you can follow these.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, unless you fall into some sort of short

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algorithm on whatever it is, uh, you know, TikTok, Instagram,

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any of that shit. I mean, right now, for probably

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the first time since I was pretty young, and maybe

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now more than ever, heavy like like the hardcore scene

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and like funny enough like slam, death metal and shit

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like that is getting attention more in the mainstream. And

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it's because the shit and the sound is so clippable.

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So like the noise of like just a heavy chuggy rip,

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you know, riff and a guy screaming yeah, people are like, oh,

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that catches you. That will catch your eye or your

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ear and the ten seconds you're flipping through shit. So

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you have a band like Peeling Flesh and they're playing

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fucking Warped Tour where it's like, okay, so let's look

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at the SATs here, all right, So between Jimmy Eat World,

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we have Peeling Flesh. You're like, wait, what how did

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they make it on the lineup? But it's like, oh,

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because it's TikTok oh, because Instagram. Because it's just like

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a quick, little, like fucking dopamine burst of music or

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sound or whatever. And it does also fit into exactly

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what you were just talking about with the wrestlers too,

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because it's like they think, or a lot of them

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I think, believe that that quick, little twelve second clip

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or the thing that's going to catch people's eye is

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look at me, hurt myself real good. But they don't

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realize this is like actually something that they can come

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up with that can catch people's eyes or ears or

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resonate with them and that little like micro fucking burst

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of information or just eye candy or whatever it needs

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to be, because they're just like, look a falling off

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a thing, and it's like, motherfucker, they're all falling off things.

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Everybody's falling off things. Look, this person fell. It doesn't

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mean anything anymore. So yeah, if you do something extra

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fucking stupid and almost kill yourself, then you might be

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a clip that somebody reposts ten times on Instagram or

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TikTok and someone goes by real quick and goes, what

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a fucking idiot, And that's it, and that's it. That's

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the extent of your exposure and fame to the mainstream audience.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh wow, you clipped off a finger. Oh shit, Yeah,

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Like that's the only time people pay attention to the

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indies is when horrible Oh you you you shot a

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fucking syringe right through his testicles. Oh that's uh, that's me, Jess.

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You got to talk about that on the show.

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Speaker 2: Well, dude, that's uh. You think about when they were

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even talking on the Dark Side of the Ring the

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TNA shit, right, Uh, not even the TNA shit, but

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the Samoa Joe and necro Butcher thing. There was a

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point where there were legitimately people on indies that had

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an aura and a personality and like, uh, the whole

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and I know it's so fucking cheesy, and people like

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Tony kind of destroyed it from the gore, but like

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the dream match idea, right, could you imagine if Samoa

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Joe fucked the Undertaker, right?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: And this was and this was sh grown man.

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Speaker 1: Eddie Guerrero fucking shows up in r o H and

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blows everybody's mind in half. Like there was there was

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a lot Ricky Steinbout, another r o H, another r

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o H guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah r o H legends. Yeah,

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but it's like there was nothing else of course though, yeah.

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Speaker 1: But there was their own buzz and the characters in

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the indies. Uh, like I don't know why he comes

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to my mind first and foremost, but like Larry Sweeney,

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Larry Sweeney was another one of those guys on the

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indies that had an actual allure, had his own character.

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Obviously you go to see him punk and even a

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younger Christopher Daniels, like all of these guys, Samoa, Joe,

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Chris Hero, like all of these people, Kevin Steam, Claudio

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castic Noli. They all had big personalities on their own.

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It wasn't the independent promotion that was making them. Obviously

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that's where they fought. But they all had these huge

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promotions on or these huge personalities on their own. And

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it's almost as if there's nothing to watch on the

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indies anymore. Dude, I don't remember the last time anyone

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even wanted to talk to about the indies, even in

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our chat, like nobody ever brings it up. Every once

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in a while, I'll see the little uh, the Joshi guys,

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I'll see them popping there. Hey there's a show about

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Tis at three in the morning. I'm like, all right, whatever,

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you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be there, which sounds great.

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Speaker 1: There's oppression happening at three in the morning.

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Speaker 2: I know, you want to watch Japanese schoolgirls go ye

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and hit each other. Yeah, two o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, somebody summed it up best too. It's like,

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why do they all wear different colored hair in different

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colored outfits? Because you'd never be able to tell one

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from the other if they were all just in the

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normal hair.

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Speaker 2: I was like, ah, dog, you're quoting me back to me, right, I.

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Speaker 1: Was saying shit, all right, I'm looking at.

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Speaker 2: Like one of those mean pictures with a quote from myself.

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I kind of no, no, but it is Spider Man. Yeah,

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but it is true to some extent. Like that's why

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they reached some point with the Joshi girls, who where

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it's like, all right, you have to have purple hair,

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you have to have green fucking hair, because you're all

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five ft two and weigh one hundred and ten pounds

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and go dag and just fucking yell as you hit

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each other. There's no discerning factor to you at all.

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Speaker 1: Well look at it like this though, too. I mean,

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when we're talking about the Indies, Triple A is an

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India at this point. True, hey, and they've done wonders

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with what they've had with Dominic and stuff like that.

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It's just it's interesting to me that you that you

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would have to have chet Gable and there dominic mysterio

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and there are others in there right in order to

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really move the idea of watching Triple A shows and

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they were really good. They were really good. Jeff and

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Lofisto covered them. They were really good shows, and I

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enjoyed watching them. But it's it's like that's the closest

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thing we get to an indie nowadays. I know GCW

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is hardcore and everybody watch everybody in the world watches

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GCW all the time, but I don't know anybody that's

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talking about it.

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Speaker 2: It's borderline unwatchable now. I mean, I've I've tried to

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give them, you know, because it's the summer. I got time,

467
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:35,359
so I've tried to give give myself and them a

468
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,319
chance to get back into it. And I'm just going,

469
00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:43,519
this is this is nothing. There's really nothing resonating with me.

470
00:27:44,039 --> 00:27:48,559
There's no characters on this show. There's nobody that's particularly

471
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,079
jumping out to me. And I'm going, ah, there's a

472
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,920
future you know star whatever that might be a star

473
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,200
is in like WW we could make them a star

474
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,400
or is a star as in like Mike Bailey, where

475
00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:03,519
you know AW will overbook you for years to do

476
00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:05,880
flips onto people. I don't even see that.

477
00:28:06,279 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: TVW and Super Wrestlers, Oh you mean Shaikhara Light, I

478
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,960
mean yeahs oh no.

479
00:28:12,279 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we already saw that. We've already seen that version.

480
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,119
But no, it is it is funny that just the

481
00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:22,880
character work and those types of the bigger personalities that

482
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,599
you were mentioning, Like obviously a Sweeney should jump out

483
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,960
because he's like the textbook definition. He's almost like the

484
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,519
indie wrestling Patrese O'Neil where you look and you just go,

485
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,480
what the god damn it? Did you just miss your window? Man?

486
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:44,880
You miss your window. You were like a couple years

487
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,680
off from being somebody that everyone would see and go

488
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:53,880
that motherfucker's great. You know, like there's very few people

489
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,039
that whatever you could say about the smart wrestling fans,

490
00:28:58,079 --> 00:29:00,480
and you know, everybody's going to have their flavor of

491
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:02,480
ice cream and have their opinions on each other. But

492
00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:05,480
like if you go and see the Sweeteney promos from

493
00:29:05,519 --> 00:29:08,240
the early two thousands and you don't go, that's a

494
00:29:08,319 --> 00:29:12,839
talented guy, then I'm not sure you're particularly even remotely

495
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,160
like wrestling. Yeah, he's truly.

496
00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: I always felt like MGF kind of bit off of

497
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,200
Larry Sweeney. I felt like velveteen Dream kind of bit

498
00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:24,440
off of Larry Sweeney. Like there was a few careers

499
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,640
that had launched over the years that I went, oh,

500
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,359
they're just they're just taking old Larry Sweeney problem.

501
00:29:29,519 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: They're getting a little sample from them, they're pulling a

502
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,039
little influence from them, whatever it might be. But like,

503
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:38,599
but mish, that's also you know when you mentioned guys

504
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,319
like that, Christopher Daniels even or whatever it might be.

505
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,079
Speaker 1: Christopher Daniels was great once upon a time. I mean,

506
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,440
holy shit, the guy.

507
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: What a great voice. Yeah, but I mean, what a

508
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:55,160
great voice. Why isn't he a commentator? That's weird. You

509
00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:58,119
just not want to be That's all I can think of. Like,

510
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,480
I know he's agenting or whatever for aw, but he

511
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,240
was always such a good talker. He was very succinct,

512
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:11,920
he was very clear him over a lot of other people.

513
00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:20,480
But once again, yeah, then Christopher Daniels just sees him

514
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,519
and he just goes, I don't want to become that,

515
00:30:23,359 --> 00:30:27,279
you know, like he enjoys helping people come up with

516
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,039
you for a match, but he feels like if he

517
00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:31,480
sits at that table, he's going to be drinking an

518
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:35,759
energy drink, texting people the whole time and miserable. Maybe

519
00:30:35,759 --> 00:30:39,839
that's what it is, But like it is funny because

520
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,279
all these people that you can mention from that time,

521
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,079
the Dream Match people, Samoa, Joe and everybody. Now we're

522
00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:52,440
at a point where Adam Pearce, who was for that

523
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:55,640
time kind of a let's let's be real. He was

524
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,440
kind of a throwaway dude like he was. People didn't

525
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,039
think he was a bad wrestler. He wasn't a talented

526
00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:06,799
guy or anything, but you know, he didn't really do

527
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,519
much for himself. Now you see him and you go,

528
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,799
Jesus Christ, if this guy was thirty, he'd be a star.

529
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: Are you not talking about Nick?

530
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: All? This man?

531
00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: Well this this old man, nick al old man? All this?

532
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: How weird is the once? And was it you? I

533
00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:30,920
was you and Dan I was talking about with this

534
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,359
earlier where I'm like, all this isn't even that old

535
00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:37,319
by what WWE is doing standards.

536
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was robbing the cradle when he hooked up

537
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,960
with Mickey Wright, like wasn't even forty eight.

538
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: No, no, she she was.

539
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: Oh I don't believe that. I don't believe that at all.

540
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:51,160
No way, no way, old man, all this.

541
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: I think that's what confuses them.

542
00:31:54,599 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: I not even get three Joe punches says he's ninety three.

543
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,160
Ah Jesus christ Man.

544
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:04,599
Speaker 2: Right, that's what happens when you eat your vegetables. You

545
00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:05,960
gotta eat more vegetables.

546
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:08,839
Speaker 1: But don't know, I'm sure they don't like it.

547
00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, he's not enjoying those vegetables, but they

548
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:16,039
are keeping him alive.

549
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: Oh I just slow people never mind.

550
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:23,559
Speaker 2: Uh, well dude, he if he's what thirty eight thirty

551
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,519
nine years old? Yeah, that's that's about right where most

552
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:31,480
of the talent that's being featured on the show is,

553
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,759
with the exception of like what the Judgment Day guys

554
00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:38,839
and a couple of girls right mostly right around that age.

555
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:44,240
So showing nick All this like he's fucking Randy the

556
00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:47,000
Ram Robinson, it's like, you know, he's right around he's

557
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:48,559
the same age as these people.

558
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: Do you think that's kind of plan?

559
00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:50,319
Speaker 2: Though?

560
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:52,319
Speaker 1: Like I wonder and I didn't get a chance to

561
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:55,400
watch his with uh Mick file A, But do you

562
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,000
think that's kind of the plan that WWE wants you

563
00:32:58,079 --> 00:33:02,119
to think of Nick All this being this old old guy,

564
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,920
like like we're gonna have a pretend old guy instead

565
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,000
of using an actual old guy to fill this role.

566
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:16,119
Speaker 2: Only funnier because I'm pretty sure if I remember correctly,

567
00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:22,039
this guy's younger than Roman Race. Roman's on the show

568
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,680
callin see him punk old. Meanwhile, the GM is younger

569
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,720
than him, right, And he's like, am I supposed to

570
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,880
be the grizzled rundown guy or whatever? I I don't

571
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,599
know where I'm supposed to be with this?

572
00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:39,799
Speaker 1: Did they think he's like some nerdy guy like a

573
00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:43,839
pencil pusher when they hired him? I guess do they

574
00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:46,799
think that Nick Aldis was getting pushed around by Billy Corgan?

575
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,359
Speaker 2: So he's got it?

576
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,599
Speaker 1: You want a five foot four guy like nobody ever

577
00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:54,759
paid attention to his matches. I know.

578
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: I love the idea of just completely denying reality. Like

579
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,599
it's like mister Burne with fucking who is it jose

580
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,319
canseeko Sideburns or something. He's like, he's like, oh man,

581
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,880
that all this guy? You know, he was just like

582
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,960
an undersized indy dude that like not a lot of

583
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:16,199
look to the guy, not a lot of muscle either.

584
00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:19,639
Clearly he's old as fuck. And then he and then

585
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:22,119
he walks in and he's thirty eight and six feet

586
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:25,599
tall in jacks, and they're like, oh, I got this guy.

587
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:36,000
This yeah, no, look at this emaciated little shit. Oh

588
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:39,400
don maddingly thank yeah, yeah, I forgot about it. Whatever,

589
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:43,079
fucking give me a break thirty five years ago, if

590
00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:46,639
not older that Joe was. But no, like that's that

591
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,440
is a weird thing with all this because him and

592
00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:54,320
Gunther there's a very very good chance that those two

593
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,480
are going to have a fucking awesome match.

594
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,159
Speaker 1: I'm kind of looking forward to it, really, I meanlet's

595
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:01,519
get to it. I mean, I know there's a couple

596
00:35:01,559 --> 00:35:03,960
of other things we'll talk about, but we have the

597
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,880
Summer Slam coming up this weekend. Joe, we got night one.

598
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,519
We do the first and the second, starting off the

599
00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:14,880
fall season for the most part, with two nights of Summerfest.

600
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:19,760
And uh, how are them tickets looking? Still? There's still

601
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:22,079
plenty of room available, folks, if you want to.

602
00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:26,519
Speaker 2: Tickets still available.

603
00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and twenty of your friends, please bring bring all

604
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,800
your friends. It's a summer Mania. Yeah.

605
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: Do you know how funny it is for me that

606
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,519
they're like, now, tickets are twenty five dollars. You're like,

607
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:43,559
weren't they twenty five hundred dollars?

608
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:44,119
Speaker 1: Yep?

609
00:35:44,159 --> 00:35:49,599
Speaker 2: For WrestleMania, Like, hint, hint, hint, hint, like aren't you

610
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:53,840
aren't you guys putting together that something is not working here,

611
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,679
Things are not going well.

612
00:35:56,639 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: There when they're pushing this like we we talked about

613
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,480
the long time ago. A matter of fact, there was

614
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:05,239
all three of us, Me, you and John that wwe now,

615
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:07,800
especially if you believe the narrative that they're going to

616
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,880
sell out to the Saudiast sooner than later, are going

617
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,079
to push all the buttons everything they can for as

618
00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:17,320
hard as they can and squeeze out every dollar until

619
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,480
the fans goodwill is finally finally tried up. And I

620
00:36:21,519 --> 00:36:24,880
think that this Summer Slam, especially after last WrestleMania, but

621
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,400
this Summer Slam is the first results of that rotted fruit.

622
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,480
I think the fact that people don't want to show

623
00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:35,239
up for arguably the second biggest show of the year

624
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,800
really shows a dampening process of where a lot of

625
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,079
fandom is versus where it was. I think people are

626
00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:47,000
finally sick of it. They've got bills to pay, they

627
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:51,239
got mouths to feed, anywhere else to go but sit

628
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,239
there for a half hearted storyline that's going to make

629
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,719
them feel like shit by the end of the night.

630
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,599
Speaker 2: Anyways, And I hate to be a coastal elite, but

631
00:37:01,079 --> 00:37:06,559
Minnesota isn't exactly Orlando. It's not a Ruba, it's not

632
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,960
Las Vegas. It's not Chicago, New York City, you know

633
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,960
what I mean. Like, so this idea of even being like,

634
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,639
hey man, you can get tickets real cheap, and it's like,

635
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,920
oh boy, let me see what the plane ticket it

636
00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:25,000
costs to go to Minnesota. It's like, I don't think

637
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,239
you're selling that out a lot of people, to be

638
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,280
honest with, Yeah, I just don't. I don't believe that.

639
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,920
Even for all the bad things that people will say

640
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,960
about Vegas today and for people that are from other

641
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,639
parts of the country where shit is much much cheaper,

642
00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:41,920
I totally see where they're like, the Strip is a

643
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,559
fucking rip off. But I was saying this to Rod.

644
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:50,159
I think the other where. I'm like, at this point

645
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:52,960
where people like you go on the Strip you get

646
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,960
breakfast and it's sixty bucks or whatever, and I'm like, yeah,

647
00:37:57,039 --> 00:38:00,159
if I get breakfast around me, it's fifty five. If

648
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:03,400
it's like it's all it's everything's fucking overpriced at this point.

649
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,519
Speaker 1: Shit, So I'm feeling good, Yeah, I get breakfast by

650
00:38:06,519 --> 00:38:07,360
me it's five bucks.

651
00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:11,639
Speaker 2: So well, are you talking breakfast, like just a standard

652
00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:13,360
breakfast sandwich or there where we're going.

653
00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:16,039
Speaker 1: At, Well, you're saying a breakfast sandwich is fifty five bucks.

654
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, yeah, I'm not a breakfasting. I'm saying, like,

655
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,000
I sit down breakfast, you know what I mean? Like, yeah,

656
00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:25,679
you get you get yourself a nice little lumberjack, couple eggs,

657
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,800
it's bacon cut fucking coffee. Yeah, that's that's running you

658
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,440
twenty bucks a plate. At this point in my area,

659
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,599
it's not I'm not saying it like a brag thing.

660
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,480
It sucks. But when people are like, oh, it's so

661
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:42,440
much more, and I'm like, like five dollars more and

662
00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:44,960
you're on vacation, it's really not that big of a

663
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,960
fucking difference to me. But yeah, the people still noneth

664
00:38:48,039 --> 00:38:50,719
last would rather go to a place where they go

665
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:57,000
ooh pretty lights and things to do than Minnesota. Yeah,

666
00:38:57,039 --> 00:39:01,719
you know, then go with a minute apples Minnesota. And

667
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,880
also when yeah, it comes down to the whole tickets

668
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,440
are down to twenty five bucks or whatever. Did you

669
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,880
did you see the news that they released today where

670
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,360
supposedly there were Netflix executives in the crowd at Monday

671
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,880
Night ra and they were not they were not believed,

672
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,000
they weren't blown away by the show. I know that's

673
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:25,719
going to be talking to you, which I think about

674
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,320
that Netflix executives where they're going, we're spending tens or

675
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:33,719
hundreds of millions of dollars on this show, and then

676
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,679
they're watching I believe that you are cursed as a

677
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,480
fucking performance, and they're like, well, what's this performance leading to?

678
00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:46,039
And then they're like, Oh, isn't the guy that's a

679
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:48,840
boxer like a beat up his fucking wife or something,

680
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,719
or he's fucking a grapist or something like that. And

681
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,039
then I go, so this is a vehicle to get

682
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:59,639
that guy onto television. Yeah. Some tells me Netflix wasn't

683
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:05,039
exactly enamored and blown away and pleased with their investment

684
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:07,880
when that's what they saw on Monday. And then they

685
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,920
see or what they hear is, oh, but the tickets

686
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,440
are going crazy. We're selling these tickets for all this

687
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:16,760
money and the crowds and blah blah blah blah blah.

688
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:18,559
And then they look up at the screen and they're like,

689
00:40:18,599 --> 00:40:22,360
please come to Summer Slam. That costs it cost to breakfast.

690
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,480
That costs breakfast. They're like, wait, what cost breakfast now

691
00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:29,440
to go to Summer Slam? I thought it was I

692
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,679
thought it was thousands of dollars to go to Summer Slam.

693
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 3: I don't know.

694
00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: That's not even the arguments. The argument is is how

695
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,559
much bad faith has wwe given the fans as far

696
00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:41,719
as storylines that they can't even find change in their

697
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,480
pocket to go.

698
00:40:43,519 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: Right.

699
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: Look, I understand when they're charging twenty five hundred dollars

700
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,400
a seat, that's ridiculous, and you have to plan those

701
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,639
expenses out, especially in today's economy, And I get that,

702
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:54,760
and I understand that's where you're trying to come from.

703
00:40:55,159 --> 00:40:57,760
But we're at a point now that even if people

704
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,119
can't afford it, even if they can't afford going to

705
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:04,840
WrestleMania or Summer Slam for the price of a breakfast,

706
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:12,639
they'd still choose the breakfast every time. It's more fulfilling.

707
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 2: Right right, You're you're getting more out of it, and

708
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,519
it's less work at it's less time, and it's less effort,

709
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,920
and it's actually just I'm.

710
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: Going pasurable fonder memories of moon over my hammy or

711
00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:29,639
eggs over my hammy or whatever. I'm gonna have a

712
00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:32,320
fonder memory of that than I am for Night one

713
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,360
of Summer Slam.

714
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: Oh man, you're not You're not wrong, And I'll tell

715
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,920
you this right now, all right. In the last three months,

716
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,360
I think I've told at least double digit amount of

717
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,760
people about the French toast that I had at Becky's

718
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,599
Diner in Portland, Maine. All right, I've been telling people

719
00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:58,639
about this French toast like I should have like a

720
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:01,119
picture of it my wallet show to people like like

721
00:42:01,159 --> 00:42:03,280
a child, Like I'm just like, did you see this

722
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,920
French toast? It's unfucking believable. I have a feeling that

723
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,400
I am going to be able to say, whoa this

724
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,760
French toast way more than I'm gonna be able to say,

725
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,480
like you said, Night one of SummerSlam. You know, like

726
00:42:16,559 --> 00:42:19,280
I'm not. There's not for the next three months. I'm

727
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,400
not going to be saying to people, oh my god,

728
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,480
did you see the human money's on a fucking pole match.

729
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: That's the problem. Wow, there's nothing that's lasting. I mean, seriously, look,

730
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,159
may as well go down it. Night one Live Morgan

731
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,960
versus EO Sky singles match for the women's championship. Then

732
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,519
we got Oba versus brock Punk versus Rhodes Nights Solo

733
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,239
and Royce versus the Bloodline Gunther and all this, and

734
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,960
then the Bella Twins versus uh Uh and versus the

735
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:54,199
Fatal Influence Nikki Brian Paige. Sorry, I got Is she

736
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:54,599
a twin?

737
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: Now?

738
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,599
Speaker 1: Is she a part of that?

739
00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: She's been taken in, She's been absorbed like the people

740
00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:08,400
absorbed twins in the womb or whatever. Yeah, by the way,

741
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,079
is uh is nick all this younger than the Bella Twins?

742
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,079
I think he might be. Yeah at this point, so

743
00:43:16,639 --> 00:43:19,000
you know he's he's just a grizzled you know, one

744
00:43:19,039 --> 00:43:21,639
legged pony making his way down the street, and he's

745
00:43:21,679 --> 00:43:26,960
younger than the Bella Twins. But yeah, there's a couple

746
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,360
of matches that you mentioned now, because it's just in

747
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:35,360
a vacuum, they'll be good. But are they traveled and

748
00:43:35,519 --> 00:43:37,840
sit in a giant fucking stadium and put up with

749
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,559
all the ship that they would put up with good?

750
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,679
I really well, I don't think so, But I mean,

751
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,440
I guess we should go through the actual matches himself.

752
00:43:48,519 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: He sure, Let's start with Obam sorry, and I need

753
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,960
to clarify about OLMOTHEMI. I got some pushback. Apparently my

754
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:03,320
idea of thinking that Obafemi was a classy a classy

755
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,239
man outside of the ring, and inside of the ring

756
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,760
he was a savage was apparently wrong, and apparently I

757
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,280
was corrected on that that he's meant to be a

758
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:19,440
bone in the nose spear chucking Zulu warrior as he

759
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:20,559
was in that, which.

760
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: Is they totally would be doing that in twenty twenty six.

761
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:27,039
Speaker 1: Yes, so I was wrong. I apologize. I did not

762
00:44:27,159 --> 00:44:31,000
realize that when he was wearing three piece suits that

763
00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:33,480
it was I was the one that didn't see him

764
00:44:33,519 --> 00:44:37,519
for what he was. So I apologize to the podcasting

765
00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:38,320
community for that.

766
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 2: Well, when we were talking about this before, man, one

767
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,599
of the biggest problems is with the Obafemi character and

768
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,639
where you end up with these confusions, which let's call

769
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:52,440
it what it is. It's not confusion. For a lot

770
00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:55,679
of people. It is just like a prejudice where they

771
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,519
see a black dude with an accent and that's where

772
00:44:58,519 --> 00:45:04,679
their mind goes. There's oh yeah, true, but nothing nice.

773
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,199
Let's put it that way. Nothing nice. They're not perceiving

774
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:12,079
it that's like, there's a classy, smart business man. Because

775
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:12,840
you know.

776
00:45:13,639 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: It's weird for me to anyways, because wrestling has evolved

777
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,719
in its own way that we don't think about those

778
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,559
old timey characters. Dude, if somebody showed up with block

779
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:25,159
shoes and a samurai jacket on and be like, what

780
00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:28,199
the fuck is this? Like people don't do that, it's

781
00:45:28,199 --> 00:45:33,039
ironically right, Like shouldn't Sky Nakamora doing that ironically was

782
00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:36,039
kind of a throwback to it. But somebody actually doing

783
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:38,880
it and meaning to be that character, that would be

784
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:39,679
fucking weird.

785
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 2: That would genuinely be weird. You're right, it would be weird,

786
00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:49,920
not only just because of the obvious data racial implications

787
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,119
of it, but there's also just this point where you go, yeah,

788
00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:58,320
no one looks like that, no one's acting like that, right,

789
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,599
You're like, we have a enough exposure to the world where,

790
00:46:03,039 --> 00:46:06,719
like the Internet has existed long enough where unless you're

791
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,360
just like a complete fucking dolt, You're like, yeah, Japanese

792
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,480
people just walk around dressed like in shorts and fucking

793
00:46:15,159 --> 00:46:19,079
shirts and ship you're not You're not some stupid fucking

794
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,199
dumbass that you're just like, Oh, well, they're not just

795
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,599
like in kimonos all day doing doing karate kicks like oh.

796
00:46:27,079 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: Oba Femi was angry in NXT, didn't you know? Yeah,

797
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,480
I know that. I didn't think he was a fucking

798
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:34,960
Zulu warrior from it.

799
00:46:36,119 --> 00:46:39,119
Speaker 2: No, because you're not an fucking idiot, you know. But

800
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,079
this is also where WWE, this is where the this

801
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:48,800
is where their shortcomings come right where there shouldn't be

802
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,480
this confusion as to who or what he is, or

803
00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:56,519
what his intentions are, or the type of person or

804
00:46:56,679 --> 00:47:00,400
character that he is, to where it's it becomes even

805
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,360
the people that are watching it to choose your own

806
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:03,679
adventure bullshit show.

807
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:06,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I because I blame the people on this one, Joe.

808
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,559
I know we hate to fucking side with WWE on

809
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:13,679
this ship, but I gotta give WWEE their defense on

810
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,920
this one. Joe. You're talking about a company that literally

811
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,280
has twenty four to seven levels of information being pumped

812
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:27,039
out by the machine at all fucking times. They have podcasts,

813
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:30,719
they have YouTube shows, they have their own shows, they

814
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,519
have a network, they have stuff on Netflix, on ESPN.

815
00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:40,079
There is enough information being pumped out now and people

816
00:47:40,159 --> 00:47:43,400
still get it wrong. Then in the eighties when a

817
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,119
dude went out there with a single it and we

818
00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:48,039
all know who the fuck he was, Like, nobody made

819
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:51,599
a mistake. Oh that's Andre the Giant. What is he?

820
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:54,119
He's giant? Oh that's awesome.

821
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: Like he's a giant, he's a Frenchman. He has a

822
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,119
manager that's a Weasley.

823
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying is we only got exposure,

824
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,280
minute levels of exposure back in the eighties to the

825
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,199
depth of who Andre the Giant was, And today like

826
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,920
Oba Femi's doing a three hour podcast and it's like

827
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,000
and you still don't recognize his character. I gotta fault

828
00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:18,400
people for that one a little bit, a little bit.

829
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: Well, we also have to remember that we have lost

830
00:48:25,079 --> 00:48:28,280
we have lost like universal signs of what a good

831
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,199
person is, that a bad person is or what is

832
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,920
this person's personality? We can't tell anymore like that, whatever

833
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,480
it might be, maybe it's the Internet, maybe it's the

834
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,159
subjectivity that we've allowed to be interjected into every single

835
00:48:46,199 --> 00:48:51,960
conversation to the point that it's nonsensical. But you look

836
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,639
at a guy once again, like oh, but it's like

837
00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:57,360
he's been on television now for WWE Main Roster Television

838
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,000
for like six months or so cover take right, we

839
00:49:01,159 --> 00:49:05,480
still don't fucking know anything about him her what they've

840
00:49:05,519 --> 00:49:09,440
told us other than he is obah Femi, he is

841
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,280
the Rula and I am going to kill you, brock listener,

842
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,559
and I am going to murder you. And you're like,

843
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,320
all right, well, anything else? You got anything else to

844
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,440
tell me about this guy? Like where where's he actually from?

845
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,159
Not just like we're going to announce him before he

846
00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:27,880
gets Like what's he from? How did he end up

847
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,480
in ww WEE? Why does he want to be a wrestler?

848
00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:33,760
Why is he calling himself the ruler? Why should other

849
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,679
people call him the ruler? They are treating the booking

850
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,800
of their pro wrestlers the same way that like a

851
00:49:42,039 --> 00:49:45,599
sleazy fucking music producer would make a boy band in

852
00:49:45,639 --> 00:49:49,280
the nineties, where I was like, we're gonna take five

853
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,880
different fucking guys and you know, whichever one you like,

854
00:49:54,039 --> 00:49:57,159
that's him, whatever you like, You're like, you're like, oh,

855
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,599
I like this one that's a bad bully, or like

856
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,119
I like him he seems kind of shay, Like that's

857
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,880
what they want you to do. They want you to

858
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:09,960
do all the work for them.

859
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: Well, I don't I don't know about that, because you

860
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,199
know what, it's everybody else's fault for not following every

861
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,239
match that Obafemi's ever done. Like you don't follow his Twitter, well,

862
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,239
then of course you don't know who the character is.

863
00:50:21,559 --> 00:50:24,840
You're not following him on Instagram, you're not following him

864
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,719
on YouTube, you're not watching his sit down interviews with

865
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,199
Stephanie McMahon, you're not listening to his his high school

866
00:50:32,199 --> 00:50:35,360
play readings like these are all your fault, that's what

867
00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:38,599
I hear. I hear your fault, Shoe. That's the problem

868
00:50:38,679 --> 00:50:40,760
here is that's you know, the fans, they just don't

869
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:41,239
do enough.

870
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:44,519
Speaker 2: Yes, that's that's really what it is. And I know

871
00:50:44,599 --> 00:50:47,679
Triple H was saying that that it's that it's clearly

872
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,599
the fault of the fans, yeah, for not just loving

873
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:52,320
the show.

874
00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 1: Right of course, what is what is.

875
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,559
Speaker 2: Wrong with these people? We're making a thing, give us

876
00:50:58,559 --> 00:50:59,320
all your money.

877
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: Not enough. I think that's the problem is WWE needs

878
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,000
more content, and I think you know what, maybe the

879
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:09,079
start of it is, you know WWE Radio, We do

880
00:51:09,159 --> 00:51:12,800
have WWE TV. Maybe we can figure out something else, right,

881
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,159
like maybe like WWE Public Transit, like wherever you go.

882
00:51:18,039 --> 00:51:21,119
They just they just play old Roman reigns and Seth

883
00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:23,840
Rollins promos on your way to work to really get

884
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,440
you pumped up for the day.

885
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: They're gonna start competing with the fucking local bush bus lines.

886
00:51:33,679 --> 00:51:36,400
They just make those Dan House and ice cream trucks

887
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,760
into fucking buses and they just drive around.

888
00:51:40,159 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: Seena's right. Seth Rollins elevator music. Yeah, seth Rollins sings

889
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,800
the hits on your favorite elevators. Great.

890
00:51:48,599 --> 00:51:54,639
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just absolutely positively despise the fact

891
00:51:55,199 --> 00:51:58,639
that now we've gotten to this point, whether it's triplets shit,

892
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,880
but the way that a few talking oh well, you know,

893
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,880
I just wish that the fans would apply their effort

894
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:10,440
that they have to dissecting the stories into being invested

895
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,840
in the characters or whatever the fuck it is. And

896
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,880
it's like, that's your job, you fucking idiot. You're supposed

897
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,760
to make the characters interesting. We're not supposed to go, whoa,

898
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,599
I'll go far to make the characters into a thing.

899
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,519
In my mind. What do you get?

900
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: It's because I think that you've hit the nail on

901
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,719
this head before too. It's the coddle nature of Triple

902
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:38,760
h's management that has created this empty pitfall. It's the

903
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,440
fact that, oh, just go out there and have fun,

904
00:52:41,519 --> 00:52:45,719
guys kind of mentality that has really given us some

905
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,760
lackluster creativity as far as character work, promos, and storylines go,

906
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,719
Whereas Vince made people afraid to sit the fuck down.

907
00:52:55,119 --> 00:52:58,039
I'm not saying that Vince is a good guy, but

908
00:52:58,159 --> 00:53:00,519
I am saying that Vince might have been a good manager.

909
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,199
He brought He beat the children, Joe, He beat the

910
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,440
children until they fucking learned, and apparently it worked for

911
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,679
at least forty years. And she just wants to hug

912
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,239
the children. That's all he wants to do.

913
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,079
Speaker 2: Well. And this is the problem, dude, is I don't

914
00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:18,559
even know if it's like he's just trying to make

915
00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:25,599
his own hug box and on them. Yes, don't forget

916
00:53:25,679 --> 00:53:27,519
thank you, Anne, I guess make sure we know he

917
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:34,880
was pooping on He's an event just sitting there. He's like,

918
00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:38,199
great promo out there. Can I shot on you later?

919
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,039
Speaker 1: No, I can either yell at you for that ship

920
00:53:46,199 --> 00:53:47,920
or I could just shot on you. Which one you want.

921
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,639
Speaker 2: And the funny thing is there's probably some people that

922
00:53:52,679 --> 00:53:55,039
are like, I'll take I'll I'll take the ladder. I'll

923
00:53:55,079 --> 00:53:57,960
be all right. What can I hold my nose? Is

924
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,559
that all right? Uh? No, it is? It is. I

925
00:54:01,559 --> 00:54:05,239
don't even know if it's Triple H wanting to be

926
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,280
the liked guy, which for years I've contemplated, that might

927
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:08,920
just be the thing.

928
00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: It works, but that's the thing though, is still on

929
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:17,079
Vince McMahon's Terror Terror Brigade. It worked for a while

930
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:20,320
when Vince McMahon was finally out. We had a good

931
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,599
year and a half of Triple H running the show.

932
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,840
That everything was good because they were still they were

933
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,199
still recovering from all the Vince fear, you know what

934
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:29,719
I mean.

935
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: Like mole morale was through the roof.

936
00:54:34,039 --> 00:54:36,639
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they were so happy.

937
00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 2: They escaped, you know, at their unicorn horns fell off too,

938
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:40,360
all of.

939
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,599
Speaker 1: Them, all of it right, And then people got comfortable

940
00:54:44,599 --> 00:54:47,280
and then fucking and then Ari Emanuel said, you know what,

941
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,719
these guys are getting paid too much to be this happy.

942
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:53,519
Let's cut their paid raph and Triple.

943
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,079
Speaker 2: H is like, guys, guys, uh, I hate to.

944
00:54:56,079 --> 00:54:58,199
Speaker 1: Tell you, but and now he was like Dave Meltzer

945
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,280
or something, but you know, I know you guys are

946
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,599
making so much money, now you're gonna only make half

947
00:55:04,639 --> 00:55:06,639
if you want to say, here on the company, and

948
00:55:06,639 --> 00:55:08,960
and rightfully, all these people like, but you love us,

949
00:55:09,559 --> 00:55:13,119
you you gave me the funny hug, Like what are

950
00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:15,880
you doing? Why Why am I losing half my paycheck

951
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,039
in order to stay here? Because we're just not being

952
00:55:19,119 --> 00:55:22,519
creative enough to sell out these shows because the company

953
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:26,280
needs more money, and since we can't find new new

954
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,800
ways to etch sponsorship deals on shit, we're just gonna

955
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,400
have to take the money directly from you.

956
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: Because we because we sold out to a company where

957
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,119
instead of their motto being let's put on a good

958
00:55:41,159 --> 00:55:44,599
show and make a lot of money, it's exponential growth.

959
00:55:44,639 --> 00:55:47,119
The only thing that matters is exponential growth.

960
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:47,519
Speaker 1: Yep.

961
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,559
Speaker 2: Where can we just keep putting more and more and

962
00:55:51,639 --> 00:55:54,920
more and more money in our pockets? Well, everything else

963
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,800
gets shittier and shittier. But I also think, like I don't,

964
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,880
I don't believe fully did that that's what it is

965
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,719
with Triple H. As much as like him wanting to

966
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,159
be liked or the fun guy or the cool guy

967
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,400
or whatever the fuck it is, I really believe it

968
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:15,960
is the corpo fucking entitlement of like, how dare these

969
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,400
fucking peasants want something for their money?

970
00:56:18,679 --> 00:56:22,039
Speaker 1: On Monday Night? Raw, He's still taking photos with people

971
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:26,480
when they come back from their matches. He's still hugging

972
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:30,000
everybody that comes through the fucking thing that comes back

973
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,519
into the gorilla position.

974
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:36,199
Speaker 2: And to some extent, And I really I'm dead serious

975
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:40,639
about this too. The boys need to stop doing that.

976
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: Stop doing it well to Conn will give me hugs,

977
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:50,559
Tony Conn'll give me hogs and he'll pay me money. Uh,

978
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,360
I can give you hugs. Uh, Like, that's the fuck?

979
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 2: What's the exchange rate on hugs from Saudi Arabia?

980
00:57:00,599 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: Tony Kahan gives you one hug and one hundred thousand dollars,

981
00:57:05,039 --> 00:57:06,480
I'll give you two hugs.

982
00:57:07,639 --> 00:57:13,159
Speaker 2: Ooh, I'll give you two hugs and you go to

983
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,199
work way way more.

984
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: I really do think you're right. I think it is

985
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,360
a mix of both though, as opposed to just one

986
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,480
side or the other. But you're talking about a guy

987
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,079
who still celebrates every single wrestling match that happens on

988
00:57:26,119 --> 00:57:29,199
his TV, good, bad, or indifferent. I mean, what would

989
00:57:29,199 --> 00:57:32,039
have happened back in the day, Joe if somebody had

990
00:57:32,039 --> 00:57:35,239
a truly awful what would have happened back in the

991
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,639
day if that fucking Dan Housen Joe Hendry segment went

992
00:57:39,679 --> 00:57:42,239
off and they went in the back and looked to

993
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,000
Hug Vince McMahon.

994
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 2: This would have squeezed him like a fucking what was it,

995
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,880
Lenny or Lenny, he would have squeezed. Yes, killed them,

996
00:57:57,039 --> 00:58:01,320
killed them via Hug. Yeah, there is there is so

997
00:58:01,639 --> 00:58:07,679
much with the god just the middle management bullshit of

998
00:58:07,679 --> 00:58:12,119
Triple Ah. The obvious like him doing it. He's gotta

999
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:17,039
stop doing these interviews. I get it, because it's supposed

1000
00:58:17,039 --> 00:58:18,920
to be where we're all supposed to buy that. He's

1001
00:58:19,199 --> 00:58:22,599
you know, he's Triple H. He's the legend, he's the legend,

1002
00:58:22,599 --> 00:58:26,559
and he's the face of WWE. But because he is

1003
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:33,480
just a toxic, pompous, fucking cunt, he makes himself sound

1004
00:58:33,639 --> 00:58:38,760
worse and the company sound horrible. Yeah, every time he

1005
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,679
does these fucking interviews.

1006
00:58:40,719 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: Its remember Covid, Yeah, remember Covid When Roman Reigns wasn't

1007
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:50,079
going to wrestle because of his blood issues and he

1008
00:58:50,239 --> 00:58:53,679
was just asked a simple question and he's stammered. He's

1009
00:58:53,679 --> 00:58:56,719
stammered for like a good five minutes on how to

1010
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,880
try and explain that Roman Reigns might not be at WrestleMania.

1011
00:59:00,519 --> 00:59:02,639
And it's hilarious because he.

1012
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,639
Speaker 2: Can't just say because he has blood cancer and it

1013
00:59:06,679 --> 00:59:10,519
could make him really sick from COVID and these are

1014
00:59:10,559 --> 00:59:12,000
the reasons why he can't say it.

1015
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: Well, he was also terrified of using the word COVID

1016
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,880
because they didn't want to associate WWE with COVID at all,

1017
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,000
even though they were having everybody watch the show via

1018
00:59:21,079 --> 00:59:24,239
satellite in the actual arena.

1019
00:59:24,599 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 2: You know, it's just well, what made that even more

1020
00:59:28,519 --> 00:59:31,880
absurd as you think of it, You go, he's so

1021
00:59:32,119 --> 00:59:34,440
worried that someone's going to say, well, then you shouldn't

1022
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,000
even have the show in general, or why are you

1023
00:59:37,039 --> 00:59:39,519
guys getting away with doing it, which, by the way,

1024
00:59:39,559 --> 00:59:43,599
all of which were real valid points. They were in Florida.

1025
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,840
Florida was the fucking wild wild West. It still is.

1026
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,559
They don't give a fuck. No, they truly do not care.

1027
00:59:51,199 --> 00:59:54,079
So to some extent, he could have said, yeah, we're

1028
00:59:54,119 --> 00:59:58,039
running the show, and it'd be like, specifically for Roman,

1029
00:59:58,599 --> 01:00:01,760
who is immunocomprom this is not a good choice for

1030
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,119
him to show up at the show. And like I said,

1031
01:00:04,159 --> 01:00:05,000
I don't even that.

1032
01:00:05,039 --> 01:00:07,519
Speaker 1: Was the time. You gotta remember during COVID too, there

1033
01:00:07,519 --> 01:00:10,119
was half the people that said, oh, COVID's not real, Hey,

1034
01:00:10,199 --> 01:00:14,519
no such thing as COVID. So Triple H was, but

1035
01:00:14,639 --> 01:00:18,519
he couldn't navigate that minefield anyways. I would think that

1036
01:00:18,559 --> 01:00:24,159
a halfway competent talker, I guess I mean a Jim Cornett,

1037
01:00:24,159 --> 01:00:25,960
I think would have been fine with something like that.

1038
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,639
Paul Hayman would have been fine with something like that.

1039
01:00:29,679 --> 01:00:32,239
There's plenty of other people in the company that could

1040
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,400
have done that interview about fucking Roman and COVID that

1041
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,760
wouldn't have stammered their way through it and probably gotten

1042
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,760
praised afterwards. Triple H has never been this big promo guy,

1043
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:43,920
and I get that. There's a lot of praise and

1044
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,280
respect for his career, and rightfully so in a lot

1045
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:47,639
of ways. I know there's a lot of people that

1046
01:00:48,039 --> 01:00:50,039
hate his career. He booked himself to the top, and

1047
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:54,000
there's obviously credence to that too. I think there was

1048
01:00:54,159 --> 01:00:55,840
enough of the character. There was enough during the d

1049
01:00:56,079 --> 01:00:59,119
X days. His work with Sean was hilarious and fun

1050
01:00:59,159 --> 01:01:02,480
to watch. Individual stuff with him and Stephanie were great,

1051
01:01:02,519 --> 01:01:04,920
Like there are moments in Triple Ah's career that I

1052
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,280
remember back fondly as a fan, and I think that

1053
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,360
there was a lot of great moments that he's had. However,

1054
01:01:11,079 --> 01:01:14,360
that doesn't immediately make him a good face of the company.

1055
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,960
If he still wants to be the guy in the

1056
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,159
back hugging everyone and telling them, like as like the

1057
01:01:20,159 --> 01:01:22,760
head coach, what a good job they did. Let him

1058
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,360
be that. Find somebody else. Matter of fact, why on

1059
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,239
the fuck is in Stephanie McMahon the face of the company.

1060
01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:33,800
Clearly she's involved with the company. Still, why is it

1061
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,039
Nick Conn? Although I think Nick Conn has got to

1062
01:01:36,039 --> 01:01:38,559
be tearing his hair out because I'm sure fucking Ari

1063
01:01:38,599 --> 01:01:42,079
Emmanuel and the rest of TKO are just like, uh so,

1064
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,559
what else are you doing for us for money? What

1065
01:01:44,679 --> 01:01:46,760
other ways you're gonna find money for us? So Nick

1066
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,719
Conn has got to be like one stage away from

1067
01:01:48,719 --> 01:01:51,440
a heart attack. You know, he's.

1068
01:01:52,599 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 2: He's he's looking at it, going, God, damn it, I

1069
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,320
have how much money? Like, I wouldn't be shocked if

1070
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,800
in year or two, I'm assuming that they just don't

1071
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,639
tell it to the Saudis, which I'm still it's fairly

1072
01:02:05,679 --> 01:02:08,280
convinced that's what's gonna happen in Wrestlata this year. But

1073
01:02:09,559 --> 01:02:13,000
he might just say, em, I'm good, Yeah, I need

1074
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,360
to be doing this anymore. I've made more than enough money.

1075
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:19,400
He'll be into his fifties by that point. Which if

1076
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,119
you're fifty five years old and have like one hundred

1077
01:02:22,199 --> 01:02:27,840
million dollars, why are you going to work? Cut it out?

1078
01:02:28,199 --> 01:02:31,519
You could fucking die tomorrow, dude. Like, it's like you're

1079
01:02:31,559 --> 01:02:35,039
not twenty five years old anymore. Shit happens, you know,

1080
01:02:35,199 --> 01:02:37,719
Like you might as well just be like, maybe I

1081
01:02:37,719 --> 01:02:42,360
should take my one hundred million dollars and go enjoy

1082
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,639
my life, which whether it goes on for another ten

1083
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,119
or twenty or thirty years, I should probably go have

1084
01:02:48,159 --> 01:02:52,239
some fun, you know. But it's just it's very it's

1085
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,519
very strange to me that Triple Ah comes up with

1086
01:02:55,719 --> 01:02:59,599
new ways to make himself look like shit to make

1087
01:02:59,639 --> 01:03:01,679
the com and he looks like complete shit.

1088
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: But that's the funing is. He's not Press Joe. He

1089
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,559
went out there confidently thinking this is a good way

1090
01:03:07,639 --> 01:03:09,880
to tell people to relax and have a good time.

1091
01:03:11,159 --> 01:03:14,559
It's endearing, right people. Yeah, that's only when I when

1092
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:16,119
I tell them that chill the fuck out.

1093
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 2: Okay, someone needs to show Triple H Tom Segurora, just

1094
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,519
show him that. I'd be like, listen, if you don't

1095
01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:29,599
like WWEE, it's because you're lazy, so your mindset is bad.

1096
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: Bill burmelt down after fucking SORDI.

1097
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,599
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, this is what you sound like. You

1098
01:03:35,639 --> 01:03:39,760
hear that, that's you. That's you. That's how you're coming off.

1099
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:44,440
And I must say, too, who is not helping Triple

1100
01:03:44,599 --> 01:03:49,599
H unintentionally? Like just it's not on him at all

1101
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:54,239
because he's doing his own thing. But every single time

1102
01:03:54,719 --> 01:04:01,079
I hear John Cena speak, I go, there's there's so

1103
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,079
few people that can do this. There's so few people

1104
01:04:05,119 --> 01:04:08,920
that have the skill that he has and the ability

1105
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,800
to connect with people and listen and have the right

1106
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:17,760
answer and approach things from a positive way and not

1107
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,960
be afraid of like oh I'm gonna look this way

1108
01:04:21,079 --> 01:04:23,400
or like what about me? Blah blah blah blah blah.

1109
01:04:23,639 --> 01:04:28,559
He moves with such confidence and conviction that you see that,

1110
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,440
and then you see Triple H go on a show

1111
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,840
and do it. I don't know why these fucking idiots

1112
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,079
don't just like their pig vomits do you want to

1113
01:04:36,119 --> 01:04:38,119
see your pig vomit idiots?

1114
01:04:38,159 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: Like I think it's because Sina has had enough training

1115
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,280
outside of WWE, where Triple H hasn't. I know, Triple

1116
01:04:45,559 --> 01:04:52,559
He's also a good big movies like The Chaperona, But

1117
01:04:52,639 --> 01:04:54,840
John Cena has, I mean, he was a what a

1118
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,519
fucking ambassador between US and China, Like you have to

1119
01:04:58,559 --> 01:05:03,159
be socially aware if you can convey messages in multiple

1120
01:05:03,199 --> 01:05:07,480
languages and still be liked universally, like John Sena's on

1121
01:05:07,519 --> 01:05:10,679
a different level as far as just a conversation goes.

1122
01:05:11,639 --> 01:05:15,199
When he was talking about the Vince McMahon stuff, I was,

1123
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:17,760
and I know, we go back and we kind of

1124
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,480
ripped on him for not being able to take a

1125
01:05:20,559 --> 01:05:22,639
side or not being able to say anything forward. But

1126
01:05:22,679 --> 01:05:25,639
in hindsight you look back and you're like, Wow, he

1127
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:30,440
navigated that whole thing without without shitting on anyone, and

1128
01:05:30,519 --> 01:05:33,840
I'll know pun intended and he got away with it

1129
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:39,599
without the media crucifying him too. So John Cena is experienced,

1130
01:05:39,679 --> 01:05:41,400
and once upon a time I thought that, you know,

1131
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,239
the only other person that was a better talker than

1132
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,880
John Cena when it came to the public was the

1133
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:50,360
Rock and yeah, that's kind of changed over the years.

1134
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,920
And who knows, maybe seen the time will come, maybe

1135
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,639
he's maybe Seena'll hit the big five to five or

1136
01:05:55,639 --> 01:06:01,480
something and he'll just go, ah, fuck all those these

1137
01:06:01,639 --> 01:06:04,519
uh Jesus, pick a race. I don't know, like you.

1138
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 2: Know, see, you better not put a Cramer moment on Sina.

1139
01:06:10,679 --> 01:06:12,679
I don't want to hear none of that. Yeah, yeah,

1140
01:06:13,039 --> 01:06:15,320
I like seeing him more now than I ever liked

1141
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,840
him as a wrestler, honest to God like now looking at.

1142
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,519
Speaker 1: Him because there's no interview, there's there's no value to

1143
01:06:22,599 --> 01:06:25,599
him anymore. There's no okay, maybe value is the wrong word.

1144
01:06:26,039 --> 01:06:28,440
There's no consequences of John Cena anymore.

1145
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 2: That's sair.

1146
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: He's not being pushed in the Roman reign slot. You know,

1147
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,119
who knows Joe here, maybe Roman reigns when this is

1148
01:06:38,159 --> 01:06:40,840
all over, you know, give him ten years away from

1149
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:44,039
the company, maybe he'll become a Paul Hamon level talker.

1150
01:06:44,559 --> 01:06:45,679
Maybe he'll know he won't.

1151
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 2: No, no, sir, I'm not gonna allow that level of

1152
01:06:54,599 --> 01:06:58,440
bind optim occasion, all right, that ain't that ain't gonna happen,

1153
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:03,760
you know what. Honest to fucking God like it's always

1154
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,719
the you gotta see something, something's got to get way

1155
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,280
worse before you realize what you had before. And that's

1156
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,639
really what it is with with Roman and Sina, is

1157
01:07:13,679 --> 01:07:16,239
honest to God, like it's like, you know what, the

1158
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,719
three thousandth match, or if you're having a brightly colored fucking

1159
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:23,480
shirt screaming spots at a guy and then winning in

1160
01:07:23,559 --> 01:07:27,679
seven minutes, I'll still take that over fucking Roman reigns.

1161
01:07:27,719 --> 01:07:36,280
At least John Cina ran to the fucking rings. Jesus right, yeah.

1162
01:07:36,119 --> 01:07:38,119
Speaker 1: Hey, let's get through night one. Uh, we've got to

1163
01:07:38,159 --> 01:07:41,400
Live Morgan versus Eo Sky singles match for the Women's

1164
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:42,400
World Championship.

1165
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 2: Joe who cares? Uh, it's EO retains, right, So that

1166
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:58,360
Wayverquel and they can start telling the story. Oh I

1167
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,920
forgot my bed EO wins. Yeah, that's how much I

1168
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,440
give a fuck about that woman's title right now? All right?

1169
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,920
So EO wins it. So that way Live can start

1170
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,440
a storyline about having some sort of jealousy torch for

1171
01:08:11,559 --> 01:08:16,800
cal Is that the is that the way of presenting this? No?

1172
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:20,239
Speaker 1: I think I think hold onto it. I mean, what

1173
01:08:20,239 --> 01:08:21,039
else are they gonna do?

1174
01:08:22,239 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 2: You know?

1175
01:08:23,039 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 1: I think I think live little Little Love lit hold on.

1176
01:08:26,079 --> 01:08:28,279
She was just talking about something in an interview too.

1177
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:34,359
I'm gonna hold it a thousand days, oh, I mean she.

1178
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:39,520
Speaker 2: Roman, Yeah, sure, Livy have fun. I I mean considering.

1179
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:46,800
I just completely forgot always a good sign for for

1180
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,640
me and for her. I yea, that's fine.

1181
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: We got uh Oba Simba versus brock Lesnar.

1182
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,079
Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I don't know as will Oba be

1183
01:09:00,119 --> 01:09:03,079
able to according to some of the people in the audience,

1184
01:09:03,079 --> 01:09:05,840
will even be able to get into the cage, just

1185
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:06,920
even know what a cage is.

1186
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could just chew on that for a little bit.

1187
01:09:09,119 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, just yeah, nothing weird about people put whatever.

1188
01:09:14,279 --> 01:09:16,840
Uh If Oba doesn't win this, what the fuck are

1189
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,239
we doing with ourselves? I mean, truly, if this is

1190
01:09:20,279 --> 01:09:20,840
supposed to.

1191
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: Be, I don't think seems to win. I think Oba's

1192
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,760
shown himself to be such shit lately. My entire view

1193
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,600
on this, I want Brock to win now. I want

1194
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,399
to I want Brock to win. I'm already fucking ready

1195
01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:36,720
to just bail on Hoba. Femi. The way this character

1196
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,159
is so wishy, washy and so weak looking, and the

1197
01:09:40,199 --> 01:09:42,800
only way he gets over is by screaming big words

1198
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,800
but the simplest things just to feed him. It's just

1199
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:51,279
it's he looks weak and pounding on little fucking NXT

1200
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,720
kids every week is just not doing it for me.

1201
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 2: And I'm not crazy about I'm not crazy about that

1202
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,159
be and his thing, and so you're right, he just

1203
01:10:02,199 --> 01:10:04,720
beats up a bunch of fucking security guards and shit,

1204
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:09,800
did did they just completely forget? I know that I

1205
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,640
say this a thousand times a week at this point,

1206
01:10:13,119 --> 01:10:15,960
but did they just completely forget what a baby face

1207
01:10:16,039 --> 01:10:20,479
and a heel is on every level to where it's like, well,

1208
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:24,800
Obah's big and tough, so the best way to show

1209
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,239
he's big and tough is to bully smaller people like

1210
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,800
huh wait, do you guys do you guys even like,

1211
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:36,000
do you guys even remember watching Nickelodeon? Like what?

1212
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:37,279
Speaker 3: Who?

1213
01:10:37,279 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 2: Who is writing this? Where you're like, all right, so

1214
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,520
here's the thing. We want to take the six foot five,

1215
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,079
three hundred pound guy that's supposed to be scary and

1216
01:10:46,119 --> 01:10:50,359
imposing but also at his heart a good natured guy

1217
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,039
who is trying his best and wants to overcome this

1218
01:10:54,119 --> 01:10:57,920
other guy. Why don't we have him? Looks at paper

1219
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:04,039
mutilate one hundred and fifty pound guys constantly that are

1220
01:11:04,399 --> 01:11:07,319
that are just hanging around. Should we just do that?

1221
01:11:08,199 --> 01:11:11,479
It was like, it is so fucking idiotic, and you

1222
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,760
probably and honestly, I could see at this point too,

1223
01:11:15,279 --> 01:11:19,520
Brock's at his house, you know, technically he's in his hometown. Right,

1224
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,479
this is Brock's house. He could come out get a

1225
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:26,840
huge ovation. Oba could get his Oba chant with his

1226
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,600
Oba dance. Right, there's Oba arms and he comes out

1227
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,439
and the people loved you in the little song and

1228
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:36,560
dance because now it's a karaoke show anyways, And then

1229
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,800
when the match starts happening, they could turn on him

1230
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,880
and start charing for Brock. It's a real possibility.

1231
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,359
Speaker 1: I mean, he is in Minnesota too, Like that's.

1232
01:11:46,239 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 2: What I'm saying. Yeah, there's a real possibility that they've

1233
01:11:50,079 --> 01:11:53,520
already fucking they've fucked Oba up to the point where

1234
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,880
he's just an entrance. And if you put him in

1235
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,399
there against a guy like Brock, who they've actually you know,

1236
01:12:01,159 --> 01:12:03,520
done something with and you has had character work and

1237
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:08,960
a relationship with the audience for thirty years or whatever. Yeah, yeah,

1238
01:12:09,039 --> 01:12:11,000
I could see him getting cheered in this match and

1239
01:12:11,079 --> 01:12:11,920
Noba getting booed.

1240
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,039
Speaker 1: Don Seen is right. I think you can give Oba

1241
01:12:16,159 --> 01:12:20,359
Dan Housen his manager. Uh, I think that'll help.

1242
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,600
Speaker 2: Maybe he should just start beating the shit out of

1243
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:27,199
him and then go I am a baby face, I

1244
01:12:27,239 --> 01:12:28,079
am a good guy.

1245
01:12:28,159 --> 01:12:31,039
Speaker 1: I'm tired of already. Man, I fucking hate it. I

1246
01:12:31,079 --> 01:12:33,119
really liked the guy coming out there. He had fucking

1247
01:12:33,239 --> 01:12:35,560
great energy. I thought that it was gonna be a

1248
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,520
breath of fresh air. He gave me Bobby Lashley vibes.

1249
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,720
A little bit, he gave me some Bobby Lashley vibes.

1250
01:12:41,359 --> 01:12:46,359
Speaker 2: And now they're treating he gave you Bobby Lashley vibes.

1251
01:12:46,399 --> 01:12:49,039
And now, unfortunately, it looks like it's heading in the

1252
01:12:49,039 --> 01:12:53,880
trajectory of Bobby Lashley's first push, which was look at

1253
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:58,079
this big, giant, intimidating, tough guy, and then eventually they

1254
01:12:58,159 --> 01:13:01,479
just completely abandoned ship. And six months time and.

1255
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:06,319
Speaker 1: Brock Brock is losing. Brock wants to get the fuck out.

1256
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,359
I think Brock can win and still get the fuck out.

1257
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:17,079
Wins and the leaves wins and leaves. Yeah, I'm leaving goodnight. Yeah,

1258
01:13:17,199 --> 01:13:20,039
I'll show up at WrestleMania for that last paycheck. Thanks.

1259
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,039
Speaker 2: Oh. He's like, I don't know if I want to

1260
01:13:23,039 --> 01:13:26,039
fly to Saudi Arabia. What's the WrestleMania after that? And

1261
01:13:26,039 --> 01:13:28,960
they're like, probably Saudi Arabia again, and he's like a ship,

1262
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:33,000
all right, I guess I'll let's do this one. Uh man, Yeah,

1263
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,439
I don't even know. I'm gonna just pick oh. But

1264
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,800
just because I want to assume that the company is

1265
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:44,079
going to feign wanting to build stars. That's my glass

1266
01:13:44,079 --> 01:13:45,039
half vault right there.

1267
01:13:45,079 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: Cool? Uh seam Punk versus Cody Rhodes singles match for

1268
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,039
the w w E Championship.

1269
01:13:54,399 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 2: Punk probably, I assume Punk retains.

1270
01:13:57,079 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: Of course, there's no reason for Cody to win.

1271
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 2: No, that's it. That'll be a good match. I mean

1272
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:07,840
that's really That's all there is to really say about it.

1273
01:14:08,119 --> 01:14:10,880
I mean, truly, it's just you have these two guys.

1274
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,720
They're both baby faces. At least for now, I'll just

1275
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,159
talk about turning Cody. I'm like, well, once again, we

1276
01:14:18,239 --> 01:14:21,239
have a show where that doesn't matter. So you can

1277
01:14:21,359 --> 01:14:24,560
just show up one day and be a complete repugnant

1278
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,720
asshole to people and then you'll get cheered by eighty

1279
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,840
percent of the audience. Anyways, so what are we turning?

1280
01:14:30,079 --> 01:14:31,960
By the way, if you we're at the point where

1281
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:33,960
you could say, hey, we're going to turn Cody full

1282
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,720
heel and he comes out smoking the garden and people

1283
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,600
start cheering him. So it doesn't even fucking matter with

1284
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,800
this dip shit audience that's watching it half the time.

1285
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:45,199
Speaker 1: Anyways, that's their fault, Joe. WWE gives them enough information.

1286
01:14:45,399 --> 01:14:49,039
You can buy the WWF magazine, Joe. They have WWF

1287
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:55,800
WWE T Radio, WWF cards too. Fuck guys, Jesus.

1288
01:14:55,199 --> 01:14:57,399
Speaker 2: I heard that if at this point, if you go

1289
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:01,720
into the Asian Food go to the Super eight market,

1290
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:06,640
they sell fortune cookies full of w W ree would yet, Yeah,

1291
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,800
you open them and next where you learn out new

1292
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,760
information about the people that they brought up from NXT

1293
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:16,359
that they didn't bother giving you television time for. Uh yeah,

1294
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,960
I assume Punk is going to retain. This just seems

1295
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:23,119
pretty pretty basic, right La. It's not even the main

1296
01:15:23,119 --> 01:15:24,079
event either.

1297
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:29,159
Speaker 1: So solo Royce versus Jacob Jay and Jimmy six man

1298
01:15:29,159 --> 01:15:29,720
tag match.

1299
01:15:32,359 --> 01:15:37,560
Speaker 2: Only a fool, Only a fool would take La Knight's

1300
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:42,920
team in this match. I'm just saying, only a fool

1301
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:47,520
would do that because clearly the audience doesn't really know

1302
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,560
who the fuck Royce Keys is. Look another guy that

1303
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:51,720
just randomly showed up that they've told you almost nothing

1304
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:56,479
about and developed no character, but expect you to cheer. Obviously,

1305
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,840
Solo is doing a good job. Solo's doing good work,

1306
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,079
but no good deed goes on punish. And another testament

1307
01:16:02,159 --> 01:16:05,960
to that is, of course, at late night, Jay Uso

1308
01:16:06,039 --> 01:16:08,079
will come out still doing his wave your hands in

1309
01:16:08,119 --> 01:16:10,359
the air like you just don't care act, and the

1310
01:16:10,399 --> 01:16:14,039
people will react to that. I don't know, I'm just

1311
01:16:14,039 --> 01:16:16,039
the safe bet in this match, is the USO's I

1312
01:16:16,079 --> 01:16:21,960
believe right, USO's in Jacob. Yeah, it seems pretty obvious.

1313
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:22,039
Speaker 1: I think.

1314
01:16:22,079 --> 01:16:24,079
Speaker 2: I mean, it would be nice. It'd be nice if

1315
01:16:24,199 --> 01:16:27,600
if Solo Sekoa got to pin Jimmy or something. But

1316
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:29,560
do I think it's gonna happen. No, probably not.

1317
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:35,319
Speaker 1: You know, got uh Gunther versus all this singles match.

1318
01:16:37,159 --> 01:16:40,319
I guess Gunther's retiring Nick all this because Nicholas is

1319
01:16:41,199 --> 01:16:45,199
turning sixty nine in February, so they want to get

1320
01:16:45,239 --> 01:16:47,000
him home. They want to get him home before you know,

1321
01:16:47,039 --> 01:16:51,640
he starts slipping of mind. So yeah, guns gun. There's

1322
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,279
going to be his last match. I think it's his

1323
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:55,000
retirement match for nick All this.

1324
01:16:55,239 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, I know the way that they're talking about

1325
01:17:00,079 --> 01:17:02,000
Nick All this where it's like once again, I don't've

1326
01:17:02,039 --> 01:17:03,920
beating a stroke to death. But it's like when they

1327
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:07,039
talk about NBA players and they're like this thirty two

1328
01:17:07,119 --> 01:17:10,159
year old veteran, time to send him out to pasture

1329
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,399
this elderly man, he's almost done. He can't play the

1330
01:17:14,399 --> 01:17:17,960
basket hoops anymore. He's almost thirty three. This is ridiculous.

1331
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,000
Uh yeah, that's That's the funny thing in this is

1332
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:25,439
that is almost the presentation where it's you know, he's

1333
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,680
only going to get this one big shot and uh,

1334
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,760
you know, will he ever be able to do it?

1335
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,880
And it's like he's not gonna beat Dunk. I mean,

1336
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,520
we all fucking pretty much know that to be true.

1337
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,560
Speaker 1: But honest, honestly, can I be honest I think that

1338
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,520
this is going to be the surprise. I think, yeah,

1339
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,760
this might win it. Yeah, I don't know this. I

1340
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,399
have this feeling like that's the narrative that's being pushed,

1341
01:17:50,039 --> 01:17:52,199
is that for some reason, all this is really old

1342
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,640
and like not not ready to step into a wrestling

1343
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:59,079
ring again at his age, and I'm thinking that this

1344
01:17:59,239 --> 01:18:02,119
is going to be that moment where, you know, Nick

1345
01:18:02,199 --> 01:18:04,920
All this proves himself, shows up a lot of people,

1346
01:18:05,239 --> 01:18:07,239
me even shows up Gunther a little bit. You know

1347
01:18:07,279 --> 01:18:07,600
what I mean?

1348
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 2: I think that is that how All this gets kind

1349
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,479
of his job back, or wins his position back in

1350
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,000
the company as a wrestler. As he said, they say,

1351
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,399
we listen, we're gonna fire you as a GM because

1352
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,159
you aren't acting right. But you can't come in here

1353
01:18:20,199 --> 01:18:22,479
and have one wrestling match and beat Gunther and then

1354
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:24,640
we let you walk out the door, right, you know?

1355
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,720
I don't know, man, It's tough because you could really

1356
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:34,319
build him as a babyface in one night through having

1357
01:18:34,359 --> 01:18:39,000
the right match and the right way against Gunther and

1358
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,159
really really give us all and still not come out

1359
01:18:42,199 --> 01:18:45,439
on top. Or you can do that same exact match

1360
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,760
and then Gunther fucking slips up. You catch him slip

1361
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,680
and being arrogant and fucking all this gets him and

1362
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,279
you also tell a great story, right, I mean, it

1363
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:58,119
really does come down to, I guess who are you

1364
01:18:58,199 --> 01:19:01,039
putting over for heels and baby face in your other

1365
01:19:01,119 --> 01:19:06,600
main event matches where like I said, Oba and fucking Brock,

1366
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,479
where you're in this position where it's like, who's the

1367
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,159
crowd actually gonna cheer? So even if you put Oba

1368
01:19:12,159 --> 01:19:14,920
over in the crowd, maybe the people aren't gonna lead

1369
01:19:15,319 --> 01:19:18,760
super happy about that, or maybe someone will who knows.

1370
01:19:19,159 --> 01:19:22,920
But I don't think Gunter loses anything in this situation

1371
01:19:23,079 --> 01:19:25,960
by getting pinned by all this. This isn't him tapping

1372
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,760
out to jay Uso in his lime green pleathor outfit

1373
01:19:29,399 --> 01:19:32,239
like Nick Aldos actually looks like a grown ass man

1374
01:19:32,279 --> 01:19:36,279
that could hurt someone. So it's not sad, do you

1375
01:19:36,359 --> 01:19:39,600
know what I mean? And it also in a way

1376
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,079
kind of adds to Gunter's whole thing because or to

1377
01:19:43,159 --> 01:19:48,199
his story and his character where he's lost so few

1378
01:19:48,279 --> 01:19:53,520
matches to so few people that to him the idea

1379
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:57,359
of oh so all this comes out of retirement. I mean,

1380
01:19:57,399 --> 01:20:00,920
he's a GM and he beat you, Like you're walking

1381
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:03,279
around here talking ship and you got beat by the

1382
01:20:03,359 --> 01:20:07,600
fucking guy who was a GEM. But that that almost

1383
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:12,000
helps his character a little bit too, uh, I mean

1384
01:20:12,039 --> 01:20:14,680
this could really Honestly, it seems crazy because I started

1385
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:16,399
out thinking to myself, it has to be Gune there.

1386
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:17,720
But now I kind of feel like I can go

1387
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,039
either way. I'm you know, I'm gonna go with the

1388
01:20:20,079 --> 01:20:24,439
dark horse. I'm gonna go with all this. Okay, let's yeah,

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let's live dangerously, dude, live muss.

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Speaker 1: You know you have the main events, the Bellots wins

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01:20:29,359 --> 01:20:35,319
Nikki Bella and Brie Bella and Page bell the fatal

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influence of j C. Jane, Laney Reid, and fallon Henry

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six women tag?

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Speaker 2: Why is this on the Summer Slam Guard? I mean,

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like not even being not I'm not trying to be cheeky,

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but like, why is this on the Summer Slam Guard?

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Speaker 1: Jacy Jane?

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Speaker 2: Is this what happens when we don't have Is this

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01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,560
what we have when we don't have Rya? Because we

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01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:05,960
have to put the ballas back out there again against

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01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,720
three girls that were just in developmental like five minutes ago.

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Is this what we end up in the position of.

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Speaker 1: I think I think he's right though, fatal Influence wins

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01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,119
and the ballots turn on Page Yes.

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01:21:18,199 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that you know what That's what I think

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01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:25,640
everybody's waiting for. Is that? Is that Page versus the

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01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:30,039
bell is two on one jumping, leading leading to some

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01:21:30,079 --> 01:21:32,479
real great stories. You know, what you got to do

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01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:35,880
is if they have any faith whatsoever in Page being

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01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:40,359
able to have matches that involve more than like bulldogs

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01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:43,720
and fucking bag of popcorn punches, they got to get

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01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:46,039
her the fuck away from the Bellis Twins and move

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01:21:46,079 --> 01:21:46,880
her on to other.

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Speaker 1: People like Oh boy, I don't know when Page first

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01:21:53,279 --> 01:21:56,239
signed Jesus Christ.

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01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 2: I'm at I'm at the point where I give such

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01:21:59,399 --> 01:22:02,760
little issue it because clearly they don't care either. Where

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01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,399
I'm good with like Rhya coming back from injury and

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01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,640
just being a heel that fucking beats the shit out

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01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:11,960
of everybody. Yeah, sure, I'd be plenty happy with that.

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01:22:12,199 --> 01:22:16,520
Would it be great for T shirt sales? Maybe? Would

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01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,840
it help their standing? As far as like her being

1423
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,159
a role model for little girls? I don't even think

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01:22:21,159 --> 01:22:23,279
it fucking matters anymore, because who cares?

1425
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 1: Just like, pretty sure there's not so many little girls

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01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:33,279
watching this anymore. Pretty sure those days are really getting

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01:22:33,279 --> 01:22:33,880
behind us.

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01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah right, they're saying, hey, little girls, you want to

1429
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:44,319
come watch fucking Dan Housend and Joe Hendry And they're like, no,

1430
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:47,039
I think I'll just I think I'll just sit over here.

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01:22:47,199 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 1: Isn't that kind of the funniest thing about this is

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01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,800
that the way that the WWE product has been booked,

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01:22:53,039 --> 01:22:56,439
and even AW two a point too, but mostly WWE

1434
01:22:57,279 --> 01:23:01,960
has become so political, so sacri in, so corporate that

1435
01:23:02,199 --> 01:23:04,880
any type of cool factor that any of these people

1436
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:11,000
had is just fading away. It's bleeding away at this point.

1437
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:15,680
So the idea of these women getting showcase for the

1438
01:23:16,239 --> 01:23:18,520
show for the company and stuff like that, well, once

1439
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,760
upon a time was part of the cool factor. Ria

1440
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:22,840
Ripley was part of the cool factor. You know, Sky

1441
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,880
part of the cool factor. Charlotte Flair, Bailey Becky, et cetera,

1442
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,399
et cetera. Like there were different levels, is a j

1443
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,560
Lee and Page even you know, I don't know about

1444
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,760
the Bells, but apparently they got people that like them too.

1445
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,159
But I mean, the cool factor is gone for the women.

1446
01:23:37,079 --> 01:23:39,680
It just feels like it. It feels like the cool

1447
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:41,640
factor is gone from the entire company.

1448
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:48,359
Speaker 2: I'm really I'm really stuck with the idea of looking

1449
01:23:48,399 --> 01:23:52,600
at this and saying, oh, no, mish because there's always

1450
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:57,880
this woman and now, I mean, yeah.

1451
01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 1: Let's think about it.

1452
01:23:58,359 --> 01:24:00,279
Speaker 2: Who is the lays.

1453
01:24:00,159 --> 01:24:03,560
Speaker 1: Big fucking needle mover that they brought in Jade Cargell.

1454
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:09,039
Speaker 2: Well, and this is what kills me about Roxy and Libra,

1455
01:24:09,319 --> 01:24:11,359
which I always go back to as why do you

1456
01:24:11,399 --> 01:24:14,279
present these two women the way that you do. Those

1457
01:24:14,319 --> 01:24:17,720
are big sister wrestlers, do you know what I mean? Like,

1458
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:22,840
those are the perfect wrestler for if you had a

1459
01:24:23,039 --> 01:24:25,800
six year old daughter that you were watching wrestling with,

1460
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,279
they'd looking to go. I like them. I like them

1461
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,840
because they remind me of the fucking my babysitter, the

1462
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,640
girl that fucking is a camp counselor the girl down

1463
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:37,760
the street. Like that's who they are.

1464
01:24:38,359 --> 01:24:41,039
Speaker 1: Roxy is a brawser, stunt up. Low dude, come on, like,

1465
01:24:41,119 --> 01:24:46,560
let's just let's let's let's be honest on that one, Rocky.

1466
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:50,319
Speaker 2: That's a terrible man. Are you saying are you saying, listen,

1467
01:24:50,399 --> 01:24:52,479
she ain't getting stuck in the dryer. She's not big enough.

1468
01:24:52,520 --> 01:25:01,199
She well right out that dryer. He's like, help me,

1469
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,680
step ro I'm stuck in the dryer. He's like, wown't

1470
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,520
you just back back out of it. You're fine, You're

1471
01:25:07,079 --> 01:25:08,399
really small. You could just.

1472
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,640
Speaker 1: Or maybe she could stuck in the dryer, Joe. Maybe

1473
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:16,880
it's actually Roxy fully in the dryer, that she.

1474
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 2: Crawled all the wayway. Yes, she's stuck in the pipe

1475
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:28,640
in the back of the dryer. Mhm. Is that the

1476
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:32,239
is that the the David Lynch ending, Like if David

1477
01:25:32,319 --> 01:25:34,359
Lynch wrote for Brasers, that's what you do would be like.

1478
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,600
And then she was stuck inside the pipe in the dryer.

1479
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,600
Speaker 1: You know, you just hear and then the screen goes

1480
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:44,039
to black.

1481
01:25:44,399 --> 01:25:48,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, dune stop and then that's it. That's the end

1482
01:25:48,239 --> 01:25:53,880
of the well. No, they there, they had Bianca. Now

1483
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:59,520
Bonca's gone, huh Rhea's out now with an injury, barely

1484
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:03,039
got years. Was like the cut, see like hug the

1485
01:26:03,239 --> 01:26:07,439
hug the girls be the the now with me was.

1486
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,319
Speaker 1: Their other great white hope. And Tiffany's kind of falling

1487
01:26:10,399 --> 01:26:15,359
off the wagon too, but their next great white hope.

1488
01:26:15,359 --> 01:26:18,399
And she's going to kill somebody if she doesn't kill herself.

1489
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 2: I mean. But so Ruka and Tiffany you can both tell.

1490
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:28,319
And I'm not saying that they're me and women. I

1491
01:26:28,359 --> 01:26:31,760
don't know them, but the vibe is not the same.

1492
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,960
It's not a j Lee, it's not the uh, it's

1493
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:39,439
not Bianca like they they don't give off the feel

1494
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:48,239
of like this is it. Yeah, nothing more relatable than Maxine,

1495
01:26:49,079 --> 01:26:51,920
elastic face, twenty eight year old girl.

1496
01:26:52,119 --> 01:26:58,560
Speaker 1: She's a lot of these TikTok girls though, Oh hooray.

1497
01:26:58,199 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 2: That'll really that's something different right now. Yeah. Well, but

1498
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,760
that's what I'm saying is like that that whole genre

1499
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:09,840
of women's wrestler has completely fallen off a cliff and

1500
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:15,239
it's because of bad writing, bad booking, and them choosing

1501
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:19,640
to fight the fucking currents on people that you look

1502
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:22,199
at and they go, they look like this, this is

1503
01:27:22,199 --> 01:27:26,000
their personality. Let's play into that. And they say, how

1504
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:29,279
about we uh flip it and reverse it and go

1505
01:27:29,319 --> 01:27:32,600
to opposite land. But yeah, I don't know.

1506
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 1: Well, let's get ready to wrap it up and get

1507
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,600
out here. We'll cover night to tomorrow. We got a

1508
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:39,279
bunch of other news to talk about it as well. Be

1509
01:27:39,359 --> 01:27:41,039
a Frank and Guss will put that up on the

1510
01:27:41,039 --> 01:27:43,840
main feet as well to do that. But yeah, because

1511
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,239
we've got tomorrow and then we've got Saturday and Sunday,

1512
01:27:46,279 --> 01:27:48,399
So that's gonna be another six hours with John Draper,

1513
01:27:48,399 --> 01:27:51,520
everybody from Spitball Media. They'll be joining for at least

1514
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:53,680
one of the Smack or Smack Down, Summer Slam nights,

1515
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:54,479
maybe even smack Down.

1516
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 2: It's basically SmackDown. Come on, SmackDown too. Yeah, let you

1517
01:27:59,159 --> 01:28:01,960
wait a second, are we? Is he coming for SmackDown

1518
01:28:02,039 --> 01:28:06,600
Night three.

1519
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:10,039
Speaker 1: SmackDown, SmackDown Raw Aftermath like yeah, sure, all.

1520
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:13,159
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, SmackDown three the same thing as Spider Man three.

1521
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:15,319
Speaker 1: All right, let's get the fuck out of your much love.

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01:28:15,319 --> 01:28:18,640
Everybody support the show. Patroon dot com, ord slash Wrestling,

1523
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,199
soup see it.

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Speaker 2: It's a beast