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Speaker 1: Here's your hosts, Jesse Severe and Victor Nuno Fantasy Hockey.

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Speaker 3: Live once again. Jesse Severe, Victor Nunio talking fantasy hockey.

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How you doing today, Victor?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great, Jesse. Much like the team we're going

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to cover today, a lot of the talk is going

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to be about the future. We're looking ahead, and we're

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looking ahead to our team previous season and we've got

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a lot of great stuff coming up still, so I'm

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looking forward to that. How are you doing, my friend?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's future forward. We're always thinking about the

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that there's anything wrong with the present or the past.

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Speaker 3: And we'll be right back after this.

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Speaker 5: To start our interview, we welcome back to the show

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Ben Cope of the Chicago Sun Times to talk Chicago Blackhawks.

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Speaker 6: How you doing today, Ben, I'm great, Thanks for having

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me as always.

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Speaker 3: Yes, outstanding. We're happy to be talking with you. And

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the Blackhawks are a puzzle. They're Rubik's cube that we

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are all triving to solve here today. It didn't happen yet,

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the good turnaround that we've been hoping for. The Blackhawks

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still had a pretty rough year, thirty first in standing points,

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partly because they allowed the second most goals against and

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we're twenty sixth in goal scored. That would do it.

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They actually had a pretty good power play, scoring nearly

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twenty five percent of the time, but they only had

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the third fewest turns on the power play, so they

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didn't get many chances at that. They had the tenth

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best shooting percentage in the league. The bad news is

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they had the dead fewest number of shots on goal.

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So they took advantage of cap space. They laundered Taylor

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Hall and money that they weren't going to spend on

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Miko ranton It's contract that it's not going to carry

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over to future ear on Mico ranton It's contract to

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help enable that trade, and got themselves a third round

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pick out of the deal. They also made the massive

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trade of Seth Jones for Spencer Night. We'll talk about

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Spencer Night later. Seth Jones not so much because he's

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no longer on the team. And then they took I

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thought of a weird trade where they took Akuatu and

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apparently it was worth trading a fifth round pick and

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a whole lot of Rocky Worth bucks to Shay Weber

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that they presumably are going to have to pay, although

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he won't be a cap hit. They'll be in line

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to bring in a blue chip prospect at number three

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this summer, So that's a good sign. Are the Hawks

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headed in the right direction?

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Speaker 7: Ben?

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Speaker 3: And what's going to happen? What do you think of

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this year and what do you think is going to

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happen next year?

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Speaker 6: It was definitely disappointing here ters of on ice results.

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They were hoping to take a step forward and did

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not do it. Wasn't like anyone who was expecting them

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to be a playoff team, but they were hoping to

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not be second to last again. But in terms of

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the long term rebuild and vision, nothing has really changed

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that much. Like it was still a pretty promising year

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in terms of prospect of element and probably their best

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stretch of the NHL season was the last few weeks

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when they had a bunch of those prospects up in

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the NHL. In terms of the guys who matter long term,

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everything is still trending in a positive direction and others,

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so there's no real reason to panic in terms of

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anything with that. Connor Bedard obviously hit a bit of

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a sophomore slump and he's going to be probably the

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most important part of that rebuild. If anything. Maybe that

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would be the slight reason for concern, but there were

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also guys like Frank Nasar who came in and had

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excellent years who are also going to be big long

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term pieces. Generally positive year for that, even though the

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NHL results weren't great, and certainly there's a bit more

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impatience in the fan base now understandably they've dealt with

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five pretty brutal years at the NHL level, but within

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the front office, with within the organization, there's quite a

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lot of patients still and that they still believe that

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they're on the track that they intended to be all along.

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Just a year that to be forgotten at the NHL level,

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but it'll be much more relevant what happens at the

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NHL level a year two from now, and.

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Speaker 3: We know where we got to start with this team.

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Connor Bedard not an ideal year. I guess we could

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say he took a lot of flak. It seemed like

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in his sophomore year, perhaps another example of if the

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team struggles, why don't we just blame the best player

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on it for some reason type of narrative. But his

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points increased from sixty sixty one to sixty seven points,

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though it was in a full eighty two games rather

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than his injury shortened rookie year. The shots per game

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were down, Advanced stats had him as one of the

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worst on the team and expected goals by replacement on

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even strength defense not so great on the D side

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right now. The yards linemates were scrambled all year, like

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much of the teams as Chicago tried to find something

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that was working. He enjoyed no more than thirty one

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point three percent of his even strength minutes with any

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one other forward. So it just was a revolving door

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and that was an injury driven. Four of his top

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five line mates last year played at least seventy eight games,

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so that he was out there with the same guys,

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they just kept changing him around. So I don't know,

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what do you think, did Connor Bedard take a step

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back this year or is that unfair to the young man?

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What does next year look like? Going forward?

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Speaker 6: It certainly wasn't the year he expected it to be,

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and I think he admit that it was frustrating for

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him and disappointing, and he was hoping to get more

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out of it. In terms of what went wrong, I

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think there's a whole lot of different things that contributed.

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I think coaching wise, that is one factor that was

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out of his control. It was been saying as you

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referenced there, how often Luke Richardson was shuffling his linemates.

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to play with him, and they really didn't get that

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much time together. And that was probably the biggest reason

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behind Richardson's firing in and with and Andrew Sorenson coming

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as his interim coach, that was his number one instruction

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was to find a way to get Badard going. So

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he did open up the system a little bit, worked

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more one on one with Badar to hopeing him to

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get the pluck moving more, just to find ways collaborating

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with him to improve his situation. And he did stabilize

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his linemates a bit, although we still especially later in

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the season, Stall saw a good amount of rotation there

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after all, even under Sorensen, But the second half of

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the year was a little bit better, although coming out

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of the Four Nations break he had definitely the worst

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slump of his career, and I do feel like maybe

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he wasn't completely one hundred percent, even though he didn't

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miss any games, and the fact that he didn't go

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to the World Championships instead staying home to rest and

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then start his off season training maybe indicative of that.

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So it's going to be a crucial off season for

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Badar to get stronger, to get faster, because that's one

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area where analytically he was one of the slower forwards

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in the league this past year, and actually quite a

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bit slower than he was his first year just in

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terms of skating speed. So I think that's going to

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be a big area of focus. He knows that he

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needs to get faster this offseason, and Jeff Blaschhill coming

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in and his introductory press conference, talked about how he

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wants Bedard to try to get atle bit more separation

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in the offensive zone, just in terms of creating space

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to make a player to get a shot, because just

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being a smaller guy he can get knocked off the

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puck a little bit if an opponent's able to get

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a hand on him or a stick on him. So

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those are going to be some big emphasies for Badard,

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and this coming year is going to be absolutely crucial

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for him. Not only is it his first contract year,

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since he'll be eligible for an extension starting in July,

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but more likely than not probably won't sign that until

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during this coming season, if not after. And also just

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to prove that in his third year he can take

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that step and get himself on that superstar trajectory that

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most expected when he came into the league, where there's

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now a little bit of concern about whether he's going

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to hit that highest ceiling, even though he's already been

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the leading scorer on the team in each of his

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first two years. So I think some of the disappointed

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and is maybe a little bit overdone just in terms

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of the outside criticism that he faces a few of

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my thoughts, there's endless ways to analyze the Dard's game,

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but that'd be where I'd say things were and where

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they're going.

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Speaker 3: Dard certainly takes up a lot of the mind space

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for folks who were following the Blackhawks, But there were

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some pleasant surprises for the team, even in the midst

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of what we described as maybe not a season that

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would want to be remembered, and Ryan Denato has to

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be pretty high on the list of pleasant surprises. Advanced

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metrics had him with the biggest even strength offensive expected

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goals of a replacement on the team. Certainly the plain

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old points, sixty two of them was more than double

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his previous career high. That had to be a surprise

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to Blackhawks' staff. His thirty one goals also topped the

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team by eight over the next higher the runners up.

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Denado throws more than a hit per game. That's the

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type of thing that fantasy players like me like to see.

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One catch is that he was a free agent now,

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so hopefully you'll have to tell me whether he's expected

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to be bat black in red and black next year.

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But overall, what did you make of the career year

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for the twenty nine year old Tonato? Will he be

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a Hawk next year and if so, what will he

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be able to do to repeat this amazing performance?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was very impressive and surprising to see talking

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about skating speed and not have been a relatively slow player.

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Most of his career, and he worked on his skating

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a lot last summer and tried some new techniques, programmed

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himself skating wise, and it really paid off. He's not

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like a speedster now, but he was significantly faster this season,

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and that helped him in a.

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Speaker 8: Lot of ways.

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Speaker 6: He was able to make a difference in transition, get

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some points off the rush, which previously wasn't really a

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big part of his game. And he kept that kind

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of hard nosed for checking aspect too, like he didn't

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trade one for the other. And so for him to

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be the all around player that he had been able

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to contribute in a lot of different ways and also

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have that scoring touch really elevated his game to a

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completely different level. I think it might be a little

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tough for him to replicate sixty two points again. That

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it's going to be pretty difficult, just with regression to

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the mean to do that again, and his shooting percentage

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was pretty high. But I do think he's raised his

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floor above where it was before. I think the skating

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improvements are a tangible thing that is going to stay

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in place, and that he's planning to work on it

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even more this summer. With his trainer down in Florida,

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and I feel like just the experience of Okay, this

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should carry forward as well. As you mentioned, the big

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question is whether he's back next season. He's publicly said

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several times that he would like to resign. The fact

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that this has been a losing team doesn't seem to

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weigh on him that much. He's bounced around the league

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a lot in his career. He just had his first

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child this past season. I think some stability would be

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nice for him, and I think he is emotionally invested

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in the team and in the rebuild. But obviously he's

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going to want to get a financial reward for this

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perfectly time breakout year. The Hawks offered him an extension

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around three years of four million per year, and it

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sounds like he's going to want more than that. Remains

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to be seen if the two sides will come to

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an agreement before July first. Obviously the Hawks have plenty

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of cap space, that's not going to be the issue.

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But it's more they don't want to hand out a

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huge contract and then have to not overgress. It's playing

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the odds to that. I do think there's a decent

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chance that he will re sign, but I was very

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confident in that at the end of the regular season,

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and now the time has passed and we're halfway to

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the startup free agency, my confidence in that has decreased

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a little bit. But if they do lose in that's

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going to be an even bigger hole to fill from

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a team that already wasn't good. So I feel like

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it would make sense from all parties to find a

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way to get this done. And going into next year,

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I mean, he, as I mentioned, probably won't put up

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exactly the same point total and maybe longer term, won't

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have quite as big of a role in terms of

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ice time and power playtime and that sort of thing.

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But I do think he should be at least a

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forty point guy.

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Speaker 3: Moving forward Toivo Terra Viynen. In his second tour at

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the United Center, Toyvo did about his normal type of damage.

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He is a pretty reliable guy. Slightly discounted for the

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team context. That's a little different in twenty twenty four

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to twenty five Chicago than it is in recent Carolina

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Hurricanes vintage teams, But fifty eight points in eighty two

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games close hugged very closely to his career fifty six

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points per eighty two games over his entire career. One

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concern is he doesn't get off shots very much, anymore

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less than one point five per game for a guy

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who has a career average over two. We talked about

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the overall context of Chicago as having trouble in that area,

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but he's one of the stable vets brought in to

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compliment the young talent. It's difficult to fault him if

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things didn't blow up this year. His even strength offense

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and defense both rated out as quite positively through advanced metrics.

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How do you assess terror Vinyan's first year back in

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Chicgo and is there any reason to expect that we'll

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get anything different in the next three years that he

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has signed to remain Hank, It.

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Speaker 6: Was a pretty status quo year what you'd expect from Terrorvinen.

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He slipped into a more defensive role his last few

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years in Carolina, and I think that continued really this season,

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where that was he was more relied on as a

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third line defensive specialist who still got some second line

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and some powerplay opportunities, but maybe not the bread and

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butter of his game and most of his points came

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through his passing and playmaking or other than goals. He

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was mostly an assist guy in the second half of

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the year. He was a lot more productive in the

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first half. He was nearly a point per game from

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January through March, I believe, But yeah, nothing that stands

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off out of the page too much with Terrvinen. I

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think that's probably the way it'll continue to be moving forward,

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where he's a solid secondary player and honestly probably one

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of the best forwards in the team, but just not

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a big, flashy guy. And off the ICE's like that too.

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He really does not enjoy attention very much. It's always

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funny to mess with him about that. So I don't

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know if from a fantasy perspective he'll be that much

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different than he's been for pretty much his whole career

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moving forward, but definitely a guy who can pick up

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some assists and probably has a pretty steady role throughout

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his contract on the.

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Speaker 3: Team, and Tyler Bertuzzi he has an additional four years

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on his contract. That's the furthest out any forward goes

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on this team, I believe, and I don't know why

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it's difficult for me to internalize that he's already a

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nine year NHL vet. It appears to his twenty one

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twenty two season in Detroit is gonna possibly stand out

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as his career year when he had sixty two points

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and sixty eight games, and it is wandering. Since leaving

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the Motor City, he's settled into kind of a I

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don't know, it's a top six, lower scoring type role.

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His shot rate was also down close to one and

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a half per game, which is unfortunate because he's a

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fourteen point four percent career shooter, which is real good.

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What did you make of Tyler Bertuzzi's first year as

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a Hawk and is he going to maintain a prominent

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role in this offense.

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Speaker 6: Bertucsi had a funny year where he was extremely streaky.

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He had nine goals in fourteen games. At one point

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he also had a twenty game goal is strout and

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threw all of those ups and downs. He ended up

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exactly where he had been the last two years pretty much.

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I think he was twenty three goals, twenty three assists.

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He scores almost every goal from within five to ten

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feet of the net. He pretty much has one above

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average any Hill skill, and it's that it's finishing in

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the crease. But he is really good at that, especially

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on the power play. I think almost half his points

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around the power play, and he was a factor in

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then finishing. I believe seventh in the league in powerplay percentage.

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He's very effective in that role. He just he's not

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a very fast guy. He doesn't really create a whole

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lot five on five. He struggles defensively at times, and

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he's very streaky. He has one amazing skill on a

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lot of things that leaves some stuff to be desired.

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I mean, he's probably going to continue being that way.

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It was maybe a little surprising that we didn't see

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him play more with Badard if five on five, that

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when they did play together, they had some decent results,

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even if their analytics weren't great, just because neither of

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them are that strong defensively, and so I think as

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possible we see that more this coming year. Another factor

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is that that career year in Detroit that you mentioned

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was under Jeff Blaschhill, who is now his coach in Chicago.

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So Blaschhill may know how to get the best out

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of him, But which is an interesting thing to follow.

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I know he made some comments that he was really

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excited about that hiring in particular, So we'll see if

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that changes anything for next year, but I think he'll

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probably in general keep being around the net finisher who

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doesn't do a whole lot else.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's move on to one of the younger players,

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Frank Nazaar. He played most of the season in ANHL

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fifty three games with a forty point pace. He had

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fifteen to fifty two tome on ice, with a good

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chunk of it on the power play over a minute.

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His linemates moved around quite a bit, but from what

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I could tell, mostly not with Badar, though he certainly

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did spend some time there. Ben, how did you view

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innizar season and what do you think we can expect

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from him next season?

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Speaker 6: When you look at Nasar's overall point total, it maybe

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isn't that impressive to an outside perspective, but internally, I

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think he was one of the brightest, most exciting parts

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of the year. He came into Rockford and the fall

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absolutely tore it up. Was one of the leading scorers

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in the AHL at over a point per game when

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he got called up in December. Then he took a

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couple months to figure things out in the NHL, and

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then really improved a lot the last two months of

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the year. I would say over the final month from

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mid March to mid April, he was arguably the hawks

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best forward in April. In those two weeks, he was

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around a point per game. He took over basically some

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of their late season games, big win in Montreal and

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Ivan Demidov's debut, in which Andrew Sorensen pointedly said afterward

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that Nasar was the best player on the ice on

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either team. He was very impressive down the stretch, and

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he has offensive skills. He has a good shot, he

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has good vision, good playmaking, and he also just has

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this tenacity about him where he wins battles and has

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a sort of heart and soul personality on the bench

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that has made him already an integral part of the team.

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So I think it's he's a guy who could really

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surprise people around the league next year and really exceed

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the kind of the external expectations on him. The Hawks

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love to mention the development and it isn't linear, and

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I'm sure he's not going to be like perfect next year,

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but he's the guy who seems to learn really quickly

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and improve at every level. And he even talked about

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that after the year that his start at Michigan wasn't

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great in college and had to overcome a hip surgery,

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but then he got better progressively as he went there.

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And he's done that at every level, which really feeds

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the excitement that who knows how high his ceiling could

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be in the NHL if he's able to maintain this

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rate of growth when he gets two, three, four years

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at a certain level. So I think he's the guy

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who's going to get a much bigger role, and you're right,

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probably won't play with Badard that much. I think they

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the Hawks and vision Badard and Nasar is their top

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two centers long term, and it's possible one or both

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can move to the wing, hopefully not both from their perspective,

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but I think in general they will be anchoring their

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own lines if things go as planned. But he is

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a guy who could still put up quite a few

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points next year.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to ask a brief question about the draft

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because you mentioned that these being their top two best

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forwards of the future in Bizarre and Badar, neither of

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which are big. Do you have any sense whether Chicago

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is going to try to go out and get a bigger,

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potential top six forward who's a little bit taller and

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stockier in this draft, or are they not going to

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try to go positionally Based on anything you've heard, I.

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Speaker 6: Think they'll definitely go for a forward, and that would

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have been the case even if this wasn't such a

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forward heavy draft. But it is quite a question mark

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on who the number three pick will be. A lot

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of fans are hoping for Port and Martone, who is

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a bigger guy, but from what I've heard, he's maybe

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not quite as scrappy and physical as a size would suggest.

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And then there's other fans who hope they trade up

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for Michael Misa. I think that's unlikely, but it is

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something they'll explore. And then kileb Denia has gotten some

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buzz as a potential fit as more of a defensive

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minded true center that he's not the biggest guy, but

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he's a little bit bigger than Badar and Asar and

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could compliment them in that way. And then I think

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Anton Frondel is in the mix as well, and maybe

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James Hagen's although he's a little bit too, similar perhaps

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to Badard and Nasar. Unlike the last two drafts, where

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it was obvious they were going Badard in twenty twenty three,

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and it was obvious they were choosing between Levshanov and

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Demidov last year, quite a few options this year, and

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it's hard to get a sense exactly which way they'll go.

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None of the options are perfect, like they all are

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have flaws. There's no guarantee any of them turns into

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a star player, but they all have reasons to believe

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they might. That's going to be really interesting what direction

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they go with that, and then also whoever they pick,

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whether that guy gets a chance to start in the

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NHL next year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a feeling it's not gonna be Hagens

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because of the size issue, that it probably will be Lendeller.

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That's just my sense though, Okay, thank you for entertaining

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that sidebar. I wanted to move on to Oliver More

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and I know he only played nine games for the Blackhawks,

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but he did score four points and had a second

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really strong season at the University of Minnesota. We've known

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for a long time that his skating has been NH already,

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since he was at the NTDP and we're looking to

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the future here, so just wondering what you think, because

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in store for more next season. I don't know that

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he'll be a full time NHL or he probably could

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use some AHL time. Maybe this is our maybe this

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is his their third line center or middle six kind

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of guy.

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Speaker 8: What are you thinking about Oliver More?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he probably will spend some time in Rockford,

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but if he has a great training camp, he definitely

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could also start the year in the NHL. I don't

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think anything set in stone with that. As you mentioned,

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his speed is definitely his number one attribute, but I

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think he showed some nice awareness that he could use

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it defensively in addition to offensively this year, and that's

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something he's worked on the lot in the last two

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00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,000
years and that the Hawks have talk to him about

482
00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:04,039
when he was in college. I'm trying to find different

483
00:23:04,039 --> 00:23:06,640
ways to take advantage of his speed. I don't know

484
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,039
if he's ever going to be a big point producer.

485
00:23:09,319 --> 00:23:13,319
He wasn't by top prospect standards in college, wasn't a

486
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,400
huge point producer, and he didn't have that many chances

487
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,559
in his nine games at the end of the year.

488
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,640
But I do think he'll be a guy who can

489
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,759
put up some points, be a secondary contributor offensively, and

490
00:23:24,039 --> 00:23:25,720
I have more of a two way role. I think

491
00:23:25,799 --> 00:23:28,799
a third line is probably a fair projection for his

492
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,400
long term role. But he's a guy that because of

493
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,559
that speed, it's hard to put him into a box.

494
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,559
It's possible that he could end up being a little

495
00:23:35,559 --> 00:23:38,960
bit different than expected, just because he is so elite

496
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,599
in at least one category. But I think it's just

497
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,480
going to take more time to see exactly what he's

498
00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:47,400
going to be. I think compared to Nasar, he's a

499
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,319
little bit less far along in the development curve, and

500
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,240
so it's a little bit harder to project what his

501
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,519
role will look like next year.

502
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,319
Speaker 3: All right, let's throw a pick em to you of

503
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,960
two of the maybe depth, shall we say, forwards on

504
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:07,119
this team, Nick Felino, Iliam mckayev and contrast Fellino the

505
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,880
grizzled veteran thirty five points to seventy eight games, and

506
00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:15,039
mckayev actually advanced stats adored him this year. In eighty games,

507
00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:17,440
he had thirty four points, but he also expected goals

508
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,240
above replacement, was the most valuable player on even strength

509
00:24:22,319 --> 00:24:25,319
defense and in fact the most valuable player overall on

510
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,119
the Chicago Blackhawks. So he seems to have had a

511
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,480
nice season, even if the scoring department doesn't necessarily seem

512
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,759
to reflect it. What do you think of these two

513
00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:35,759
players going forward for the team.

514
00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, mckayev was a bright spot this year for sure.

515
00:24:39,079 --> 00:24:42,680
He really was impressive defensively. He has great instincts in

516
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,160
that regard. It's funny that each of the past two

517
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,200
years the Hawks have had kind of a sky Selky

518
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,440
Trophy candidate, and Jason Dickinson here before last and then

519
00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:54,000
McKay of this year, and both of them they got

520
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,039
a draft pick from Vancouver to take their contract and

521
00:24:57,079 --> 00:25:00,519
then turn them into elite defensive forward. Those are two

522
00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:03,240
of the savvier trades that Kyle Davidson has made in

523
00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:05,759
his time. But yeah, mckayv was impressive with that and

524
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,359
scored some goals as well, especially in the latter half

525
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,960
of the year. It picked up in that regard. Leno, meanwhile,

526
00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:14,319
was on the opposite trajectory where his first year in

527
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,720
the hawksy he had a bit of a more bigger

528
00:25:16,839 --> 00:25:19,880
role just because there wasn't anyone else to fill that role.

529
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,480
And then this year. As it went on, his ice

530
00:25:21,519 --> 00:25:24,160
time went down substantially and where he was playing on

531
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,599
mostly the fourth line the last couple of months of

532
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,880
the year, and at his age, I wouldn't expect that

533
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,640
to change next year. So I think you could pretty

534
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,960
safely pick mckayev between the two of them. Again, I

535
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,599
don't know if mckayv's going to quite replicate his goal scoring,

536
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,720
especially because his focus is not more on defense, But

537
00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:42,640
I do think he will have a bigger role and

538
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,799
get more ice time than Felino, who at this point

539
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,640
is almost a player coach, just in terms of his

540
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,839
off ice impact is a lot more than his on ice.

541
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah, And here's what I'm interested in because he's

542
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,799
been breaking my heart in multiple leagues, Ben, and that's

543
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,359
Lucas Reichel. Is Is he going to come around and

544
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,599
get some points and be a valuable NHL player? What

545
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,599
do you think of Lucas Reichel's progress.

546
00:26:09,559 --> 00:26:12,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, the time is definitely running low on Richel turning

547
00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:15,359
into what the Hawks thought he would be, or even

548
00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:18,799
fifty percent of that. It's been a frustrating few years.

549
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,680
He wasn't as much of a liability. I would say

550
00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:23,960
this year but he still didn't do a lot of

551
00:26:24,079 --> 00:26:26,519
special things. He had a couple of highlight reel plays

552
00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:29,799
where you can see his speed and his agility. He

553
00:26:29,839 --> 00:26:32,359
really is just incredibly smooth out there, and in terms

554
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,319
of carrying the puck through the neutral zone, he's really

555
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,640
an asset with that, but once he gets into the

556
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,720
offensive zone, he really struggles to do that much, or

557
00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:43,039
at least has so far. So this is going to

558
00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:45,480
be a crucial summer for him. I think it's not

559
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,079
out of the realm of possibility that he's traded, but

560
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,079
whether he is or isn't, I think he knows that

561
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,640
he's got to take a big step forward. He's working

562
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,599
with a skills coach at home in Germany for the

563
00:26:55,599 --> 00:26:57,839
first time, and he said he's hoping to work on

564
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,640
gathering pucks off the wall, winning puck back, and being

565
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,400
able to make a play in traffic to like take

566
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,720
it into a scoring area because he can often be

567
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,559
a perimeter player. So he does seem to have a

568
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:11,200
better sense of where he stands and where he needs

569
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,480
to get to. I think he also was doing a

570
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,960
lot better confidence wise. That was definitely something that was

571
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,240
a weakness for him early in his career where he

572
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,759
was just a little mentally fragile at times. So he's

573
00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:23,279
taken some steps in some of the smaller areas, but

574
00:27:23,319 --> 00:27:25,400
he still hasn't taken that big step in terms of

575
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,480
becoming an impact player, and certainly not in terms of

576
00:27:28,519 --> 00:27:30,480
putting up a lot of points. He was mainly a

577
00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:32,880
fourth line guy this past year, which is an odd

578
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,319
fit for someone with his skill set. So if he

579
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,960
is back on the Hawks next year, his back's going

580
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,119
to be against the wall to prove that he can

581
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,599
be part of this rebuild long term. And he does

582
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,200
have the skills. We've always seen that, so it'll just

583
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,960
be a matter of trying to put it together. And

584
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,359
I don't know if I'm super confident at this point

585
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,000
that he'll be able to, but it's definitely possible, especially

586
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,599
if he has a big summer.

587
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 3: All right, and over to the blue line Alex Blassik.

588
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:02,920
Until connor Bidar gets paid on this team, the guy

589
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,640
with the longest contract ahead belongs to Alex Flassk. Believe

590
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,799
it or not, The twenty three year olds under contract

591
00:28:10,039 --> 00:28:13,240
until twenty thirty at what might end up looking like

592
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:15,799
a very reasonable four point six million dollars per year,

593
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,319
Plastic had a breakout year topping defenseman on the team

594
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,440
in power play, tom and ice, especially after the Jones

595
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,279
trade filled into that and he took on heavy minutes

596
00:28:25,319 --> 00:28:29,400
twenty three sixteen, his points jumped to nearly double of

597
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,480
that rookie year high that he had up to thirty

598
00:28:31,599 --> 00:28:34,200
in eighty two games. We're about to talk about some

599
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,920
hot shot defensive prospects who are hot on Alex flastiks heels,

600
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,759
but he's definitely been one of the great surprises for

601
00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:43,839
this team in the last couple of years. Do you

602
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,400
expect him to hold down a sort of high responsibility

603
00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:51,119
role as a defenseman on this team going into the future.

604
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 6: I think when you look ahead touch the Blackhawk's future

605
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,160
depth chart, certainly of Lastic as a top four guy.

606
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,079
Without question. He's their most establish defenseman by far. I

607
00:29:02,119 --> 00:29:04,640
think more likely he settles into more of a second

608
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,640
line shutdown role than a top pairing role, although he

609
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:12,039
certainly can fill that when necessary. His workload was big

610
00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:14,519
this year, as you talked about, and he actually mentioned

611
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:16,599
that he got worn down a little bit by that,

612
00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:19,920
just as energy levels dipped in the latter third of

613
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,160
the season and his play wasn't quite as consistent, so

614
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,799
I know he's going to work on his conditioning and

615
00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:27,640
stamina this summer. But I think for a guy his

616
00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:30,880
size at six' six and for the responsibilities that he

617
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,039
has in the defensive, ZONE i think ideally he's more

618
00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:36,920
of a twenty twenty one minute guy long, term once

619
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,599
some of their, prospects as you, mentioned can blossom into

620
00:29:39,799 --> 00:29:42,119
those star players that maybe have a little bit higher

621
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,079
ceiling than. Him But blastic has certainly established himself as

622
00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:47,400
a guy that every team's going to need if they're

623
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,599
going to succeed in terms of reliable defenseman who can

624
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,440
contribute offensively but be especially strong in his defensive. ZONE

625
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,759
i think he's also a sneaky candidate to be the

626
00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:00,000
next captain of the. Team he's taken over a big leadership,

627
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:03,160
responsibilities great guy in the, room really nice to talk

628
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,400
to always WHENEVER i run into. Him that's another area as,

629
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,000
Well BUT i think he's probably going to keep putting

630
00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:11,000
up with thirty points or so as he did this,

631
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:13,920
year BUT i don't think he's gonna increase that a whole.

632
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,200
LOT i, think especially in the power, play it was

633
00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:18,480
more of a short term fill in, thing and next

634
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:20,720
year they're probably going to look at some other options

635
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,039
in that. ROLE i don't think he's going to continue

636
00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:26,279
being a regular power play quarterback long, term but he

637
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,640
certainly block shots and he's not the most physical guy

638
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,519
for his, size BUT i know that's something he also

639
00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:33,920
wants to increase in terms of just getting more hits

640
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,200
and you go finishing through the body rather than finishing

641
00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:40,440
through his stick as something specifically he's talked. About BUT

642
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,200
i think long term he's probably more of a second

643
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,200
pairing guy if everything goes well for this.

644
00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 4: Rebuild all, right and we're going to talk about a

645
00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:52,640
couple of the younger defensemen because that is the future looking,

646
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,599
Ahead and we're going to start with Artam, lichschunov who

647
00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:59,920
did play in THE ahl mostly this. Season he had

648
00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:03,000
fifty two games there and twenty two. Points he did

649
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:05,039
sit up for EIGHTEEN nhl, games and he played a

650
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:07,480
lot when he did play more than twenty. Minutes what

651
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:09,920
did you see From leshunov in THE? Nhl and do

652
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,200
you think he's their future top pair defenseman and do

653
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,319
you think he'll run that power?

654
00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 6: Play, Yeah levshinov is fascinating to watch at this point

655
00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:20,799
he's you really don't know what you're going to get from,

656
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,079
him not only in every, game on every, period every,

657
00:31:24,119 --> 00:31:28,480
shift but even every individual. Moment he's not the most structured,

658
00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:32,119
guy still hasn't fully grasped what works and what doesn't

659
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:34,880
AGAINST nhl, players and he also has just a very

660
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,720
kind of bold confidence. Mindset it's funny to watch him

661
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,079
at this point as an eighteen nineteen year old in

662
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,359
terms of you you never know if he's going to

663
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,359
charge at, somebody or if he's going to hang, back

664
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,039
or if he's going to go for a big hit

665
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,599
or try to pope, checker and then offensively he's going

666
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:50,119
to join the, rush if he's going to hang, back

667
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,640
if he's going to, pass if he's going to hold

668
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,359
on to. It you just never know what he's going to,

669
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,799
do which obviously isn't great if he is always like.

670
00:31:56,839 --> 00:31:58,400
That BUT i think The hawks have a lot of

671
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:01,759
confidence that he will learn and mature and figure out

672
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,480
how to play a bit more, predictable consistent. Game and

673
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,160
you can see he's immensely. Talented that was very obvious

674
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,720
because even though he's so, erratic he does make it

675
00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:12,799
work a lot of the, time and that was in

676
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:15,799
his first two months in THE, Nhl so you would

677
00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:19,079
think that after several years that he'll his success rate

678
00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:21,480
will be even. Higher with each of those individual, THINGS

679
00:32:21,839 --> 00:32:26,079
i think, offensively he probably will he Or Sam renzel

680
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,880
or Maybe Kevin, korchinski it will be one of their

681
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,880
will be their power play quarterback long, term And libzhanov

682
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,480
maybe has the highest probability of the three to. Do

683
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,000
he is very trigger. HAPPY i haven't seen many defensemen

684
00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:40,559
ever who are as eager to shoot the puck as.

685
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,400
Him he blasts it whenever he, can and he has

686
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,400
a very good. Shot he's really good at getting it through.

687
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,160
Traffic it's, strong it's, accurate. Powerful that's something where maybe

688
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,160
he can dial back a little bit in terms, of,

689
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,599
okay this is going to get. Blocked maybe not the

690
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,240
best idea to. Shoot but he definitely is an eager,

691
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,599
shooter And i'm sure from a fantasy perspective that is.

692
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,240
Enticing AND i think we're just going to see a

693
00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:04,720
lot of refinement in his game this coming. Year that's

694
00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:07,240
really going to be the key emphasis now that he's

695
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:10,519
proven that he can hold his own talent wise against

696
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:13,160
this pro. Level so another guy where it's just going

697
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,799
to take more, time but certainly the sky seems to

698
00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:15,960
be the.

699
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:21,839
Speaker 4: Limit, indeed and you Mentioned Kevin kortinski was going to mention.

700
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,759
Him he played seventy six games back in twenty three twenty.

701
00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:27,720
Four this season he only played sixteen in THE nhl

702
00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:31,039
and fifty six games in THE, ahl and that was

703
00:33:31,079 --> 00:33:33,519
where he did most of his work twenty seven point

704
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,279
nearly half point per game in HIS ahl. Time he

705
00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:38,599
also played the most time on ice by a significant

706
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,400
margin in THE, ahl even more quite a bit more

707
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,880
Than lipschunoff when he was down. There and overall it

708
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,160
was a strong, season maybe regaining his confidence in THE.

709
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,079
Ahl But, ben what did you think Of kortchinskis season

710
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,920
and what do you think the future? Hold the same

711
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,319
question about running the power, Play, yeah that was.

712
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,319
Speaker 6: The big emphasis this year was to regain his confidence

713
00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:02,400
after being three into the fire and having some struggles

714
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,000
in his ROOKIE nhl. Season and WHILE i do think

715
00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:08,000
he did, that it wasn't maybe quite as explosive a

716
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:10,519
year as he or The hawks hope for where it

717
00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:12,519
just seems like he's maybe on a little bit slower

718
00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:15,400
trajectory than you'd. Expect for a top ten, pick but that,

719
00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:18,639
happens especially for a, defenseman it were sometimes it does take.

720
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,519
Longer he came. Up he had TWO nhl, stints one

721
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:24,159
In december where came. Up his first game was against The,

722
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,960
rangers and it was probably the most impressive game he's

723
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,960
had in THE. Nhl he looked, great especially showing off

724
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,480
his defensive, improvements but then he faded a bit as

725
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,280
it went. On and the same thing at the end

726
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,719
of the year where he came up for the last

727
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,559
month and played really immediately and then faded a bit

728
00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:40,599
as it went. On and he just needs to gain

729
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:43,920
more strength as really the number one priority for him moving,

730
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,639
forward where that's going to help him defensively a. Lot

731
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,760
he really struggled to box out and win battles this

732
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,480
year against bigger, Guys but it should also help him

733
00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:55,960
offensively too in terms of winning battles there also having

734
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,119
more power on his shots because he's he's a true

735
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:01,679
offensive defense and that's at least what he was when

736
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:04,400
The hawks drafted, him and so far his two years

737
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,760
pro have been more about him surviving defensively than excelling,

738
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,920
offensively and so that's maybe been the biggest disappointment is

739
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,480
that he hasn't been able to do more, offensively but

740
00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:17,920
he also hasn't just hasn't spent that much time in

741
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,519
the offensive zone because he's stuck in THE d zone so. Much,

742
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,679
so if he can get stronger and a little bit more,

743
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,519
MATURE i think hopefully he would take a step next,

744
00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:28,320
year but he might just be on a little bit

745
00:35:28,639 --> 00:35:30,960
longer timeline where maybe it would take a couple more

746
00:35:31,039 --> 00:35:32,199
years to see what he can turn.

747
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 4: Into all, right and you Mentioned samronzell. Already this guy

748
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,920
has been one of my favorites for a long, TIME

749
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,440
i think a little bit less heralded than a lot

750
00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:43,679
of their other. Prospects he was drafted twenty fifth The

751
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,719
brawl back in twenty twenty two and finished his second

752
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,960
straight strong season at The university Of. Minnesota got into

753
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:52,599
nine games for The, blackhawks and he looked really good

754
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,039
as far AS i could tell some of his underlying.

755
00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:57,880
Metrics even though small sample size of under two hundred,

756
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,960
minutes he had some pretty strong numbers of expected goals

757
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,000
for and of course he against of course limited sample

758
00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:06,880
size of course a big asterisks. There BUT i think

759
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,679
that there's potential for him to evolve into a pretty significant.

760
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,480
ROLE i don't know if he can creep all the

761
00:36:12,519 --> 00:36:14,159
way up to top, four BUT i think they have

762
00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:16,000
a really strong defender. Here what do you think is

763
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,559
in the future For? Renzel AND i imagine he gets

764
00:36:18,559 --> 00:36:20,920
SOME hl time next, season though maybe he makes the

765
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:21,360
team out of.

766
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 6: CAMP i think it's actually a pretty significant chance that

767
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,159
he's in THE nhl right. Away The hawks like to

768
00:36:28,199 --> 00:36:31,119
be conservative with, that and that would be the reason

769
00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:33,159
why if he starts In rockford that he. Does but

770
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,519
he looked VERY nhl ready in his nine games at

771
00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:39,079
the end of the, year immediately became their number one,

772
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:42,239
defenseman SO i think his ceiling is definitely top, four

773
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,039
if not a top pairing. Guy, obviously he didn't have

774
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:48,400
a ton of competition for that, role and it is

775
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,840
as small sample size as you, mentioned but he had

776
00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:53,960
just a remarkable season one of the top defensemen in college,

777
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,800
hockey and then immediately translated that into THE. Nhl there

778
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,840
were some learning, moments one that he liked to talk

779
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,079
about where he got completely blown By nathan McKinnon in

780
00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:06,280
one of his first, games but his ability to move

781
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,320
the puck and get around, guys and his confidence to

782
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,199
do so in all three zones is really, impressive and

783
00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:15,559
he has a pretty good offensive touch. Too he hit

784
00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:18,440
a couple posts and. Crossbars he easily could have scored

785
00:37:18,679 --> 00:37:21,119
two or three goals even though he didn't get his

786
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:23,280
first one. Get AND i think he had four assists

787
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,840
in those nine games, too and could have had a

788
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,320
couple more. There he looked honestly great in those nine.

789
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,960
Games those are also the team's best nine games of the,

790
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:33,400
year and you could say that maybe that helped, him

791
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,000
but also he played a pretty big role in those

792
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:39,199
being their best nine. Games SO i think he is

793
00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:42,559
a guy who liked azarc could really surprise people externally

794
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,639
next year or just in general moving, forward and could

795
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:49,840
be a pretty sneaky sleeper pick from a fan fantasy

796
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,440
perspective in terms of a guy who's maybe as much

797
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:54,960
warrant so.

798
00:37:55,039 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 4: Far, indeed in a lot of VETERAN nhl defenseman get

799
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,440
blown By nathan, McKinnon SO i don't think that's too

800
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,480
much to be upset. About let's move over to the.

801
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,880
Goalies The blackhawks were ranked twenty ninth and expected goals

802
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,559
against for sixty eight even, strength conceded the thirty first

803
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,880
actual goals for sixty and at all strengths they were

804
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,480
not so. Great they had Soder bloom at a little

805
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,199
bit above, expected they Had marazak a little bit below

806
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,800
And Spencer knight a little bit. Above it was an

807
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,000
interesting kind of up and down season in terms of their.

808
00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:32,039
Goalies i'm not sure what we should expect from them moving.

809
00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:35,400
Forward obviously they have a little bit end of the

810
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,840
season than they did at the beginning in terms of

811
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,559
who they're going to have moving. Forward Spencer knight came

812
00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:42,679
in and got quite a few games under his belt

813
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,039
and looked really, good and that seems like probably a

814
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:48,000
big factor moving. Forward so what do you think we

815
00:38:48,039 --> 00:38:51,159
can expect from him moving forward in terms of how many,

816
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,159
games what the splits are going to, be and how

817
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:54,239
Does bruswa feit into.

818
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 6: That, YEAH i would Expect Spencer knight to definitely be

819
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,920
the clear number one next. Year, hey they used him

820
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,480
as that down the stretch at the end of this past,

821
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:07,360
season and just based on his talent and is already

822
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,880
his role in the, TEAM i would expect that to

823
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,920
continue long. Term they definitely see him as their future

824
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,440
number one and really current number one, goalie their long

825
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:18,079
term number one. Goalie in terms of his play down,

826
00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:20,360
low he's probably one of the best goalies in the league,

827
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,119
already extremely quick and, agile can stop rebounds as pad

828
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,000
use since it's. Great he showed a little bit of

829
00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:29,239
a weakness in terms of his glove and his pad

830
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,480
allowed a few goals up high as the year went,

831
00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:33,719
on But i'm sure that's something he'll work. On he's

832
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,280
also extremely, smart which is another big factor in his.

833
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,840
Favor in terms of the number two goalie that is

834
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,039
certainly a little bit. Murkier Arvid saderbloom had a bounce

835
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:46,079
back year after a really rough twenty three to twenty four,

836
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:48,679
season but he did fade a bit in the second

837
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,239
half until a couple of strong starts at the, end

838
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:54,039
but His february And march were not. Great he's a

839
00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:57,559
pending restricted free. AGENT i think the team will probably

840
00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:00,840
resign him this, summer but nothing and teed for, him

841
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:03,599
and Then bresois is also a big question. MARK i

842
00:40:03,639 --> 00:40:07,559
missed the entire season after two miniscus. Surgeries we really

843
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:09,519
didn't even practice at. All he was pretty much just

844
00:40:09,639 --> 00:40:12,199
the ghost of fifth third arena at The hawks practice.

845
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:14,639
Facility davidson said at the end of the year that

846
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:17,039
The hawks are holding out hope that he might be

847
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:19,920
healthy for next. Year we'll have to wait and see on.

848
00:40:20,039 --> 00:40:23,000
THAT i haven't heard any. Updates if he is, HEALTHY

849
00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:26,360
i think it's possible he gets, traded considering he's just

850
00:40:26,559 --> 00:40:29,039
much older and only has a year left under contract

851
00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:31,239
than those other two. Guys but it might be a

852
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,400
situation where you have to play some, games whether in

853
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,159
the preseason a regular, season to prove to other teams

854
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:39,239
that he's healthy if they wanted to trade. Him and

855
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,119
then also If soderbloom falls back to where he was

856
00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:45,000
two years, ago it's possible he wins the backup. Job

857
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:48,719
not written out by any, means but a very big question.

858
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,599
Mark it's also it's tough to come back after missing

859
00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:54,719
an entire, season so there's that factor. Too BUT i

860
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,440
would Expect knights to be the number one pretty clearly next.

861
00:40:57,519 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 3: Year, Outstanding, Ben this has been very enlightening about The Chicago.

862
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,960
Blackhawks how should people keep up with all the work

863
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:07,679
you do throughout the.

864
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,559
Speaker 6: Year, yeah you can read to my work on The

865
00:41:10,639 --> 00:41:13,679
chicago sometimes sometimes Dot, com and you can follow me

866
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:14,960
On twitter At Ben pope.

867
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 3: Cst outstanding thanks so much for coming on and giving

868
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,880
us the lowdown on The.

869
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 6: Blackhawks, yep thanks for having.

870
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: Me Thankin Ben, well that's good, Fire, Pat oh my,

871
00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:35,480
goodness long with a cat.

872
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 3: Gram now it's your weekly goalie. Talk But Kat Silverman Kat's.

873
00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 4: Instincts time once again For Cat's Instincts With Kat silverman

874
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:52,280
Of ingold mag we're Talking Chicago blackhawk, goalies And Drew

875
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,280
cameso is who we're going to start. With he had

876
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,880
his second full professional season with THE Hl Rockford ice

877
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,320
and he improved his. Numbers he went from a nine

878
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,519
zero six to a percentage to nine to eleven DECREASES

879
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:10,000
ga a little. Bit winnstayed about the same and better

880
00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:11,840
in the, playoffs which was nice to, see and he

881
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,639
actually got into TWO nhl games couldn't go particularly. Well

882
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,719
one was in relief one he took the L nice

883
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,760
to see him get rewarded that. Way will also not

884
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,079
putting too much pressure on. Him i'm looking at the

885
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:29,280
hockey prospecting For. Kumeso it doesn't look super. Exciting he's

886
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,800
hovered in that low thirty ish percent for a.

887
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:32,119
Speaker 8: While.

888
00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 4: Now he actually has a pretty reasonable comp to another

889
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,679
goalie who followed the same trajectory as. Him two years

890
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:41,159
at THE, ushl three years at THE, ncaa TWO ahl

891
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,280
seasons and That's Joseph fall and he's done pretty, well

892
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,960
minus some, Injuries he's been a pretty COMPETENT nhl, goalie

893
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,360
so maybe he can follow that. Trajectory But, kat tell

894
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,360
us your instincts About, komeso.

895
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 7: Drink And messo has been a lot of fun to.

896
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,079
WATCH i, know back when he got, drafted we talked

897
00:42:56,119 --> 00:43:02,719
about how he was the fun antithesis To Spencer, knight

898
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,559
Because Spencer knight was a little bit more, controlled, conservative

899
00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:10,679
confident with his, movement And Drew camesso was The Charlie day.

900
00:43:10,679 --> 00:43:13,880
Wildcard liked to be a little bit more active on his,

901
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,880
skates really liked to move a lot, more like to

902
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,440
be a little bit more. Unpredictable but he has just

903
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,880
an enormous arsenal of safe selections that he can. Make

904
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:29,400
and usually when you see goaltenders like that really like

905
00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:31,440
to be just a true jack of all, trades there

906
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,920
can be a learning curve when they're getting used to

907
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,119
the pacing because they don't just have the luxury of

908
00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:40,159
trusting their own. Process they really have to get a

909
00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:42,519
feel for what's going on around, them for the, pacing

910
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,039
for the types of shooters they're going to be playing,

911
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:48,519
against for the way that their defense is. Operating and

912
00:43:48,559 --> 00:43:51,400
that's what we ended up seeing From, cameso where he

913
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,039
needed a little bit of he needed a little bit

914
00:43:55,039 --> 00:43:57,639
of a longer runway to get himself. Going but he

915
00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:00,880
still looks like he hasn't changed his confidence. Level it

916
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,440
looks like he's still really consistent and how he, operates

917
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,360
how he, skates how he makes his safe, selections and

918
00:44:08,559 --> 00:44:11,639
that's really reassuring to. SEE i don't know IF i

919
00:44:11,679 --> 00:44:14,840
would move him up to THE nhl full, time BUT

920
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,880
i think he's getting close to at least being the

921
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,000
kid that you push into the deep end to see

922
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,559
if you'l syncrease when because he doesn't have a whole

923
00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:30,800
lot of technical structure needed left to. Learn he has

924
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,480
his game pretty well. Established he just needs to see

925
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,639
how well he can translate it to THE nhl. Level

926
00:44:36,679 --> 00:44:40,000
we'll see how, that see how that. GOES i THOUGHT

927
00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:43,960
i knew What chicago was going to, do and it

928
00:44:44,039 --> 00:44:46,119
seems every, year once we get a good handle on

929
00:44:46,199 --> 00:44:50,119
who they have as their goaltending depth, chart they flip

930
00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:54,199
everything on its head bring in someone really, bizarre and

931
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,000
so we'll see what they. Do whatever we think they're

932
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,599
going to, do they're going to do the. Opposite so

933
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:00,280
it'll be fun to.

934
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 8: See, yeah it's.

935
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 4: FUNNY i remember when that trade went down With spencer

936
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,199
NIGHT i remember thinking back to this conversation and how

937
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,599
fun it's going to be that those two who were

938
00:45:10,639 --> 00:45:13,360
at THE ntdp and now are going to BE nhl,

939
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,039
teammates although perhaps not at the same, time at least

940
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:19,000
not right, now but how their styles are different and

941
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,039
how that's going to be an interesting contrast for. Them

942
00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:23,679
so we'll. See but, yeah as a, reminder we Have

943
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:28,199
night bois under contract for this season And bloom which

944
00:45:28,199 --> 00:45:29,159
we don't know what they're going to do.

945
00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:29,639
Speaker 8: With he's AN.

946
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 4: Rfa they might bring him, back and they'll just have

947
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,400
a whole load of goalies In chicago And, rockford and,

948
00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:38,280
yeah who knows what they're going to, do but they have.

949
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,679
Options let's talk about the next goalie who might be

950
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,000
an option down the, road and that Is Adam. Guyane

951
00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:49,000
he's FIRST ncaa season was not. Great that was this

952
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:51,679
past season for The university Of Minnesota. Duluth eight eighty

953
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,519
five save, percentage three point three, THREE ga, seven twelve

954
00:45:54,639 --> 00:45:59,800
seven and twelve record and the LAST ushl season also

955
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,039
was great after being. Drafted the main success he's had

956
00:46:03,039 --> 00:46:05,079
so far is at THE u Twenty World Junior champions For,

957
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:09,199
silakia and those strong performances and SMALL samplea sizes may

958
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,920
not be indicative of his. Talent maybe it seemed like

959
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:15,960
in that draft in twenty twenty three that was a

960
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,400
big part of the storyline for. Him and if you,

961
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,880
remember he was the first goalie off the board and

962
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,239
he was an overager in that. Draft he was taken

963
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,639
ahead Of Michael, Horabble Trey, augustine And Jacob, fowler just

964
00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:29,719
to name a. FEW i didn't think at the, time

965
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,480
AND i don't THINK i would take ANY i would

966
00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:34,840
take him over any of those. Guys, NOW i wonder

967
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,280
what you, think, KAT i think that you would agree with.

968
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,760
Me but just looking at the hockey prospecting for Guy,

969
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,440
on it's always been, low partially because he initially was

970
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,800
in THE nahl and that is in The Super Strong.

971
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,920
League although he did well, there none of his other

972
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,280
numbers have been super. Reassuring, sure the best comp for

973
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,760
HIM i have is Probably Chris, mason who was AN nhl,

974
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,320
Goalie we can say, that AND i don't know much.

975
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,559
Else there's not all the rest of most of the

976
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:04,599
rest of the guys were bus that have the similar

977
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,280
numbers As. Guyanne Curtis sandford is maybe another. One, kat

978
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,800
tell us your instincts on Guyan and do you think

979
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,440
he'll wind up being the best goalie from the twenty

980
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,079
three to three?

981
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 7: Draft not even. Close, no no offense To chicago and

982
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,039
their scouting, team but not even. CLOSE i don't know

983
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:27,880
with that. One he looks like he is playing up

984
00:47:28,679 --> 00:47:32,719
WHEN i watch HIS ncaa, games where it looks like

985
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,719
he is doing a good job of not panicking in,

986
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,199
games but he looks like he's an underage player who

987
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,639
is playing against an older team just to get his feet,

988
00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:48,480
wet and like it looks like he's just a beat

989
00:47:48,559 --> 00:47:53,239
behind everyone. Else and it looks like he's making saves

990
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,199
that look like they're high stress saves that really shouldn't.

991
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,880
Be it looks like it should be a really easy routine,

992
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,519
save and it looks like he's making it at the

993
00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:04,840
last second because he finally figured out what's going. On

994
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:08,400
AND i do think that he looks like he's got

995
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,400
strong skating. Skills it looks like he's got pretty decent,

996
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,960
Hands so THERE'S i don't, know there's a toolkit there

997
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,199
to work. With BUT i would say That chicago wanted

998
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,239
to make sure that they weren't clogging up their. System

999
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:25,639
but we've seen teams Like anaheim And pittsburgh and Even

1000
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:30,239
chicago in the, past And washington teams have drafted more

1001
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,679
goaltenders than they needed and used those as bargaining, chips

1002
00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:37,559
and they don't need to make a weird.

1003
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,119
Speaker 3: Reach pick.

1004
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:43,559
Speaker 7: Just to make sure that they aren't clogging up their

1005
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:46,320
system For Drew, kmesso and that's not the first time

1006
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,280
they've made a really bizarre. Pick Dominic bass was another

1007
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,679
one THAT i. KNOW i think the last time that

1008
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,119
we mentioned him For, chicago we were, like this guy

1009
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,480
did not need to get, drafted this guy should not

1010
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,159
have been. Drafted this guy's a weird fit For chicago's.

1011
00:49:02,159 --> 00:49:05,599
System good luck to, him and it seems like they're

1012
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:08,920
continuing with that. Strategy SO, i LIKE i, SAID i

1013
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,440
don't really know What chicago's. Doing maybe they're playing THREE

1014
00:49:12,519 --> 00:49:14,599
d chess and there's a reason for taking guy. On

1015
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,679
but as of right. NOW i don't love his, game

1016
00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:21,360
And i'd love to see him prove me. Wrong that'd

1017
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,519
be cool for, him BUT i don't necessarily see him

1018
00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:26,280
as a huge part of their future per.

1019
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:31,679
Speaker 4: Se, indeed good job Picking Drew cameso and Acquiring Spencer Night.

1020
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,639
Chicago other than, that, yeah good, luck all, Right Thanks

1021
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,800
god forgiving us your instincts on The chicago Black Hawk gullies.

1022
00:49:42,400 --> 00:50:02,559
Speaker 3: Will be back right after this dig did She Tago blackhawks?

1023
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:07,400
Edition The blackhawks have a great farm, system number five

1024
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:10,599
in THE nhl according to your. Rankings victor starts out

1025
00:50:10,599 --> 00:50:12,559
with your no brainer. Prospect who is?

1026
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 8: It no?

1027
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,079
Speaker 4: Brainer? Is Nick lardies twenty twenty, three sixty seventh overall,

1028
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:22,280
Pick round, three five to, eleven one hundred and eighty five,

1029
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,800
pounds seventy one goals this season and one hundred and

1030
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:30,559
seventeen points in just sixty five. Games lardis ended up

1031
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,320
sixth all, time tied With Eric lindras with that seventy

1032
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,400
one goal. Season he's been going behind a few other

1033
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,679
players that maybe didn't work out quite so. Well some

1034
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,599
of them are before our, Time Ernie, Gordon Ray, Shepherd Tony,

1035
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:47,840
tanti And steve, gatsos but since nineteen ninety ninety one

1036
00:50:48,199 --> 00:50:52,320
that's the second, most where he tied With Eric lindras

1037
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,000
And John tavares two thousand and. Six two thousand and

1038
00:50:55,039 --> 00:50:58,159
seven had seventy two goals in a. Season pretty great

1039
00:50:58,159 --> 00:51:01,760
company to put yourself, in and he was also pretty

1040
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,400
great in the playoffs fifteen points in seven games For.

1041
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:09,800
Bramford looking at his tracking data For Mitch, brown the

1042
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,480
scoring as you might expect and the shots off the

1043
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:15,679
charts expected goals expect a shots per sixty all that

1044
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,679
leads to pretty incredible offense ninety fifth. Percentile although very,

1045
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:24,880
interesting his expected primary, assists slot passes and slot success

1046
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,400
pass success rate were pretty. Low in, fact if that

1047
00:51:28,519 --> 00:51:30,639
were all he, had if you were just looking at the,

1048
00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:34,920
playmaking it would be pretty. Subpar so that is a

1049
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,880
bit of an. Issue is he just someone who's a

1050
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,599
finisher and isn't going to get a whole lot of,

1051
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,159
playmaking get a whole lot of Assists that might lower

1052
00:51:41,199 --> 00:51:44,960
his point. Totals looking at his transition data For Nick,

1053
00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:47,840
lartis this also looks very. Good lots of controlled, entries

1054
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,480
lots ofs and. Success, defensively though he was not good

1055
00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:56,400
thirty second. Percentile so, Overall mitch has some really nice.

1056
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,280
Tools the, pace the, shooting the, handling the, translatability all

1057
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,559
that looks really. Good the passing is just above, average

1058
00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:06,840
and the physicality is really low at twenty first, Percentile

1059
00:52:07,559 --> 00:52:10,519
so that's interesting With. Lartis looking at HIS fhl player,

1060
00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:12,599
CARD i have him at a six point seventy four

1061
00:52:13,519 --> 00:52:16,119
seventy four percent chance of being a six and that

1062
00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:18,400
might surprise you based on THE ohl season he, had

1063
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,960
but it's just a question of. Translatability he is a

1064
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,039
little bit of a smaller forward who isn't very physical

1065
00:52:23,079 --> 00:52:26,400
and might have a difficult time getting to those spots.

1066
00:52:26,039 --> 00:52:26,519
Speaker 8: Where you can.

1067
00:52:26,519 --> 00:52:29,199
Speaker 4: Score his shots are a ten out of ten one

1068
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,920
hundred percent. Tile his hits and blocks that are below,

1069
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,599
average so you might not get a whole lot of

1070
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,960
bash from, that but his shots are so elite that

1071
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:39,920
his overall bash will probably be pretty. Decent but let's

1072
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,119
hear a little bit more about him from OUR fhl Scout.

1073
00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 3: Jesse, yes, sir the nick lardest scouting report IS fhl

1074
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,679
Scout craig's. Responsibility he, says the skeeting is above. Average

1075
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,960
he always wins, races to the, puck tracks down defenders

1076
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,000
and causes his. Turnovers he also shows off his speed

1077
00:52:58,039 --> 00:53:02,159
coming down on the, rush catching, defense flat footed passing

1078
00:53:02,199 --> 00:53:05,480
and handling above, average great visions setting up teammates for easy.

1079
00:53:05,519 --> 00:53:08,960
Goals puck handling is also above. Average rarely do you

1080
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,000
see players coming down and being able to dek opposing

1081
00:53:12,039 --> 00:53:16,559
players out like. That several Times craig watched him put

1082
00:53:16,599 --> 00:53:19,360
the puck in defenders skates and then turn them, around

1083
00:53:19,519 --> 00:53:23,880
sometimes several times in one. Rush shooting above, Average lartis

1084
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,079
hays a good shot and is able to beat goalies

1085
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:29,920
from all ankles and THE iq average very little, panic

1086
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,320
rarely turned the puck over for. Checking slightly above, average

1087
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,960
creating turnovers using his speed and good stick. Work below

1088
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:41,199
average at playing the. Body when games got chippy and

1089
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,760
he attempted to throw some, hits he looked so far

1090
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,480
out of his comfort. Zone defense, average nothing really stood,

1091
00:53:47,519 --> 00:53:50,000
out but when a defensive play needed to get, made

1092
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:54,119
he would get it. Done the best assset offensive. Skills

1093
00:53:54,159 --> 00:53:57,440
not a two dimensional, player and when the goals aren't

1094
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,519
going to, in he still is going to be able

1095
00:53:59,519 --> 00:54:03,039
to rack up. Assists the biggest concern is artist is

1096
00:54:03,039 --> 00:54:05,719
an older player in THE, nhl So craig does question

1097
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,039
if this is a product of beating up on younger.

1098
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:12,880
Competition the top tier outcome here seventy point player with limited.

1099
00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:15,719
Bash that's if it all breaks right and he could

1100
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,960
translate his offensive, game the talent will be. There the

1101
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,079
median outcome more like tier, three, say fifty five to

1102
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:27,000
sixty points with no. Bash that's because there's a, solid

1103
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,920
all around great game. Here and he believes That lartis

1104
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,960
is IN nhl or even if some of the fancier

1105
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,400
plays don't, translate he should have a good. Floor stylistic

1106
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,280
comparable reminds creg of a Cheap Mitch marner with the

1107
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,679
fancy stick work in the. Moves And Nick lardis goes

1108
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,280
up in the Tidy CHAMPION nhl Rank King Mason black's,

1109
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:52,679
Poll Nick lardis Versus Joshua wah And lartis in a

1110
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:57,000
lark sixty five to thirty five. Percent, victor do you

1111
00:54:57,159 --> 00:54:59,159
Like lartist that much better Than Joshua?

1112
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,519
Speaker 4: WAH i was going to say a large, slide but

1113
00:55:02,639 --> 00:55:05,880
that doesn't sound Very, oh.

1114
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 3: That's great, stuff game recognized, Game.

1115
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 4: VICTOR i think that people are a little bit down

1116
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,719
On joshua because of his kind.

1117
00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:20,039
Speaker 8: Of regression or sort of perceive.

1118
00:55:20,119 --> 00:55:23,519
Speaker 4: Regression they after a strong season last season in THE,

1119
00:55:23,599 --> 00:55:25,920
nhl kind of thought that he'd be in THE nhl full.

1120
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,920
Time this past, season he, was and he stunk it

1121
00:55:28,039 --> 00:55:30,599
up out of, camp but then had a really GOOD ahl.

1122
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,599
SEASON i still, think actually THAT i would Take joshua,

1123
00:55:33,679 --> 00:55:36,599
here even though that may be a little. UNPOPULAR i

1124
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,559
JUST i don't. KNOW i heard What craig was, saying

1125
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:42,400
AND i can see a path to him being a

1126
00:55:42,519 --> 00:55:45,760
very GOOD, NHLer BUT i just don't know that it's super.

1127
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,800
Likely AND i would definitely dial back my enthusiasm about.

1128
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,039
LARTISTS i, think as he did, mention he is an

1129
00:55:53,079 --> 00:55:59,119
older player taking advantage of THE ohl and putting up

1130
00:55:59,199 --> 00:56:02,440
really gaudy number in a positive, Situation so you can't

1131
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,519
fault him for. That BUT i also don't know that

1132
00:56:04,599 --> 00:56:06,480
might have raised his stock a little bit too, much

1133
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,119
AND i think we need to dial it back a little.

1134
00:56:08,119 --> 00:56:11,079
BIT i think That wah's game is much more translatable

1135
00:56:11,079 --> 00:56:13,920
to THE. Nhl he's not just relying on his, shot

1136
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,360
he's not just relying on burning people out. Wide he's

1137
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,400
not just relying on his, shot Which i'm not Convinced

1138
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,360
lardis is gonna BEAT nhl ers with consistently with his

1139
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,840
shot washed The chiefs offense and in different.

1140
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 8: Ways he's much.

1141
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 4: Smarter he's really good at has really good, vision and

1142
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,480
really good at. Playmaking SO i am much more confident

1143
00:56:33,559 --> 00:56:36,559
In wah being able to translate his. Skills i'm actually

1144
00:56:36,599 --> 00:56:38,440
going to go against the grain here and side with

1145
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,599
the thirty five percent that Picked. Joshua looking at the

1146
00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:45,079
hockey prospecting between the, two it's pretty. Similar wah had

1147
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:47,960
a similar star percentage To lartis in HIS d plus two,

1148
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,599
season which was twenty one percent For lartis and was

1149
00:56:51,119 --> 00:56:54,679
eighteen percent For. Waw waw graduated at just eleven percent

1150
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,400
chance of being a, star but that's a few seasons ago,

1151
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,519
now and, yeah so it looks good for. Art he

1152
00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:03,400
looks like seventy percentile of being AN, NHLer which is

1153
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,679
similar To. Wall looking at some other comps For, LARDES

1154
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,639
i think a good one here Is oliver Byork. STRAND

1155
00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:12,920
i think that's probably pretty. Reasonable similar, Size York shannon

1156
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,719
is an inch, taller someone who has a very good.

1157
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,840
Shot the rest of his game isn't, incredible but certainly

1158
00:57:18,159 --> 00:57:20,559
AN NHL, r AND i Think lardest could be that

1159
00:57:20,679 --> 00:57:23,760
and be middle six to depth. SCORE i think that's

1160
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,639
a very realistic outcome for lards and certainly upside for

1161
00:57:26,719 --> 00:57:29,039
more if all. Breaks looking at the J fresh card For,

1162
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:31,840
lardest three percent chance of being a star twenty four

1163
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,400
percent chance of being AN nhl are so a bit

1164
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,800
more pessimistic For, lartis AND i think that IF i

1165
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,639
were IF i Had, lardis WHICH i don't in any

1166
00:57:40,679 --> 00:57:43,800
of my, LEAGUES i would probably try to sell him.

1167
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,119
Now i'm not sure that his stock is ever going

1168
00:57:46,199 --> 00:57:48,960
to be, higher AND i don't really think that based

1169
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,559
on how people are projecting him now because of his

1170
00:57:52,039 --> 00:57:56,800
AMAZING ohl, SEASON i think that people are over estimating

1171
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,360
how well he can translate. That SO i would strike

1172
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,519
all that and try to get something a little bit more,

1173
00:58:01,559 --> 00:58:02,920
secure even if it's a little less.

1174
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,639
Speaker 3: Upside, Jesse, yes, Sir and who is the need to

1175
00:58:06,679 --> 00:58:08,000
know prospect.

1176
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 4: Need to know is going to Be roman Kent serov

1177
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,760
twenty twenty, three forty fourth overall pick back in the second.

1178
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,280
Round he was and still is five foot nine hundred

1179
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,639
and seventy six. Pounds he has been in THE khl

1180
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,519
the past two, seasons and even for a small, guy

1181
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:29,239
he has had some pretty incredible. Production the first season

1182
00:58:29,239 --> 00:58:31,480
in THE khl he had fifteen points and fifty three.

1183
00:58:31,559 --> 00:58:34,519
Games this past season thirty eight points and forty seven

1184
00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:40,400
games For Metalurg, magnetigorsk and overall really strong. Production he

1185
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,159
had an amazing postseason last. Season this, season the playoffs

1186
00:58:44,159 --> 00:58:47,559
didn't go so well for Metal, urk but, overall you

1187
00:58:47,719 --> 00:58:50,679
gotta love that he was doing really great in the playoffs.

1188
00:58:50,719 --> 00:58:54,039
THERE i need to update MY fhl card projection for

1189
00:58:54,119 --> 00:58:56,119
him BECAUSE i think he deserves a little bit better

1190
00:58:56,239 --> 00:58:59,199
than the four out of ten THAT i have him.

1191
00:58:59,239 --> 00:59:03,239
At he actually has pretty good bash for a smaller.

1192
00:59:03,239 --> 00:59:06,280
Guy his shots or nineteh. Percentile his hits are seventy percent,

1193
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,039
tile and his box are typical for a, forward not,

1194
00:59:09,079 --> 00:59:11,639
great but overall he's got a bash at eightieth. Percentile

1195
00:59:11,719 --> 00:59:14,280
so you love to see. That let's hear what else

1196
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,159
we might love to see From Kensera from our every tail, Scout.

1197
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 3: Tony is on the cancer off case says skating very,

1198
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:27,880
positive skater, quick, agile good, acceleration passing and. Handling that

1199
00:59:28,039 --> 00:59:31,000
is also a positive according To, tony and the shooting

1200
00:59:31,239 --> 00:59:34,480
very good, shooter able to get his own shot with SHIFTINESS,

1201
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:39,360
iq very high HOCKEY iq vision strong to get teammates

1202
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,320
the puck or get around a. Defenseman tonyer didn't see

1203
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,519
a whole lot of panic except perhaps on rush. Defense

1204
00:59:46,039 --> 00:59:49,599
for checking did show some for, checking was able to

1205
00:59:49,639 --> 00:59:54,039
turn over the puck from opposing players and defense some

1206
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,559
for check, defense and his ability to get the puck

1207
00:59:56,599 --> 01:00:00,559
to teammates or around defenseman with puck. Possession that's his best.

1208
01:00:00,599 --> 01:00:04,840
Defense so the best, asset the puck, handling the. Passing

1209
01:00:05,039 --> 01:00:09,119
the concern the smaller size means That toner doesn't expect

1210
01:00:09,159 --> 01:00:10,719
a lot of bash, here but as long as he

1211
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,079
can avoid too much, physicality he should be. Okay top

1212
01:00:14,159 --> 01:00:17,320
tier Outcome tier two middle six forward with some power play.

1213
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,679
Time that's Because roman, skating, shooting passing and puck handling

1214
01:00:21,679 --> 01:00:24,679
AND iq all lead to a solid middle six. Role

1215
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:29,440
the median outcome tier three fourth line type player with

1216
01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:34,159
not enough bash and overall cancer off Reminded tony Of Connor,

1217
01:00:34,239 --> 01:00:37,519
garland and maybe that would be a decent line made

1218
01:00:37,519 --> 01:00:41,119
For bedard Thinks. Tony it all depends how it breaks

1219
01:00:41,119 --> 01:00:44,360
Out victor THE nhl Ranking Mason black puts A roman

1220
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:49,679
Cancer off up Against Cole bodwin and that is quite

1221
01:00:49,719 --> 01:00:53,360
a mismatch according to the people out there On twitter

1222
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,719
land because they said Cancer off is the sixty to

1223
01:00:56,719 --> 01:01:00,320
forty percent winner Over Cole Bodwin. Victor is that how

1224
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:01,079
you rank these? Two?

1225
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 8: YEAH i think.

1226
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,519
Speaker 4: So and if you listen to Our mammoth, episode we

1227
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:12,239
actually Mentioned boudouan and, yeah he is someone who's also

1228
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,199
an interesting prospect and should certainly be someone that you're interested.

1229
01:01:16,239 --> 01:01:18,719
In even if his scoring isn't, incredible he has some

1230
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,360
pretty good bash to go along with his. Scoring but

1231
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,599
looking At, KONSEROV i do think that he is someone

1232
01:01:24,679 --> 01:01:27,480
WHO i like that comp actually quite a lot tony

1233
01:01:27,519 --> 01:01:30,440
good job On Connor. GARLAND i think he's someone who

1234
01:01:30,519 --> 01:01:33,000
just can make things, happen even as a smarter. Player

1235
01:01:33,039 --> 01:01:35,360
he doesn't have any fear he's going into the hard.

1236
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,000
PLACES i think he has even a little bit more

1237
01:01:38,039 --> 01:01:42,159
skill and slipperiness Than garland. Does maybe the motor isn't

1238
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,320
quite as, good but it's still, Good so overall there's

1239
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,719
some there's a pretty high upside there for a good.

1240
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,119
Speaker 8: Outcome SO i really like.

1241
01:01:50,199 --> 01:01:53,519
Speaker 4: THAT i think that there's probably there's certainly more scoring

1242
01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:58,599
upside for For. Kenser Often bodan is going to have

1243
01:01:58,639 --> 01:02:03,119
the amazing bash though he's ninetieth percentile for overall, bash

1244
01:02:03,239 --> 01:02:05,360
and it's not all from his. Shots his hits and

1245
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:09,079
blocks are. Incredible his shots are also ninetieth, percentile so

1246
01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:11,199
overall you have a super high.

1247
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:11,559
Speaker 8: Flow with Cold.

1248
01:02:11,599 --> 01:02:13,599
Speaker 4: Woodwan even if he doesn't score a, LOT i could

1249
01:02:13,679 --> 01:02:16,400
just see him Being people are going to say he's

1250
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,559
the Next Tom, wilson which he's probably, not but he's

1251
01:02:18,559 --> 01:02:20,360
someone who's going to have a super high floor for

1252
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,199
hits and will hopefully translate some of that. Scoring although

1253
01:02:24,239 --> 01:02:27,159
he didn't have a whole much whole lot this season In,

1254
01:02:27,239 --> 01:02:30,559
barry so that was a little bit. DISAPPOINTING i think

1255
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,280
Kent serov doesn't give up too much in terms of the.

1256
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,599
Bash he doesn't quite block as, much but he hits fair,

1257
01:02:36,599 --> 01:02:39,360
amount especially for a smaller, guy AND i think that

1258
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,159
there's much much more scoring, Upside So i'm definitely taking

1259
01:02:42,199 --> 01:02:44,320
cancer off between the. Two if you look at the

1260
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,039
hockey prospecting between the, two Can saroff has twenty three

1261
01:02:47,039 --> 01:02:49,920
percent chance of being a star To budwan's just nine,

1262
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,920
percent so big difference. There definitely more interested in Can.

1263
01:02:54,039 --> 01:02:56,519
Saraff you look at some other comps. There one of

1264
01:02:56,599 --> 01:03:01,079
the ones here that's interesting Is Kyler, yamamoto also a smaller.

1265
01:03:01,159 --> 01:03:03,159
GUY i think Ken seraff has a little bit more

1266
01:03:03,159 --> 01:03:06,840
physicality and a little bit more strength Than yamamoto. DOES i,

1267
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,199
mean he was playing at five one hundred five eight

1268
01:03:09,239 --> 01:03:11,719
one hundred and fifty four, pounds And Kent seraf isn't that.

1269
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,679
Small he's still needs at a little bit more muscle and,

1270
01:03:14,719 --> 01:03:17,559
strength but he's definitely a little bit thicker in stock.

1271
01:03:17,639 --> 01:03:19,800
Here one of the other comps in terms of just

1272
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,760
numerical Is kyle O'Connor For, kenceraff AND i don't think

1273
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,000
the upside is nearly. THAT i think that there's some

1274
01:03:26,039 --> 01:03:29,280
potential there. Actually interestingly, Enough Frank nazar is another comp

1275
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,199
in terms of, percentages so obviously they would love to

1276
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:36,599
have someone with that much potential to play With. Nazaar

1277
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,760
looking at THE J fresh model For kent serahf thirteen

1278
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,760
percent chance of being a star thirty four percent chance

1279
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,360
of being IN nhl are pretty solid numbers FOR J,

1280
01:03:45,519 --> 01:03:48,199
fresh which is always a little bit more.

1281
01:03:48,199 --> 01:03:53,719
Speaker 3: PESSIMISTIC i Had victor and who's to keep your eye

1282
01:03:53,719 --> 01:03:54,360
on prospect?

1283
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,719
Speaker 4: Today of, course we couldn't help, ourselves but Mentioned samrenzell.

1284
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,280
Earlier he is twenty twenty two to twenty fifth overall

1285
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,079
pick sixty, four one hundred and ninety. Pounds he was

1286
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,400
drafted back in twenty twenty two when he was primarily

1287
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,039
playing out of high. School AND i always say this

1288
01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:12,519
about these high school guys is that it's always.

1289
01:04:12,199 --> 01:04:13,159
Speaker 8: Really challenging to.

1290
01:04:13,199 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 4: Evaluate but he was in a really in that Strong

1291
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,559
minnesota state high school, system and he looked. Great what

1292
01:04:19,639 --> 01:04:21,599
was interesting about him is we also saw a little

1293
01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:23,960
bit of him in THE ushl AND i think that

1294
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,719
really helped his evaluation because he just looked so smooth

1295
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:30,559
and so in control and read the play really. Well

1296
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,119
and so the increased pace even way back, when didn't bother.

1297
01:04:34,239 --> 01:04:36,280
Him and you heard some of that From Ben pope

1298
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,480
in the interview that even making the jump from college

1299
01:04:39,519 --> 01:04:42,360
to The Chicago, blackhawks which is a pretty huge, leap

1300
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,320
he seemed relatively unbothered and looked like they're best defenseman

1301
01:04:45,679 --> 01:04:48,639
right out of the gate, there which is pretty awesome to.

1302
01:04:48,679 --> 01:04:51,719
See and, YEAH i think we should be really excited about.

1303
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,119
Him thirty two points and forty games for The university Of,

1304
01:04:54,119 --> 01:04:57,800
minnesota just really great. Numbers twenty two of those were

1305
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:04,280
assists and five assists and NINE nhl, games all looking really.

1306
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:08,800
Great looking at his track data From Mitch, brown overall eightieth,

1307
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,880
percentile ninety three percent, transition eighty one percent in, offense

1308
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,960
although that's not necessarily his, game but he's also had

1309
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,599
some really good defensive numbers. Overall some of his highest

1310
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:24,239
attributes are slot pass success rate controlled, exits which is really, important.

1311
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 8: Which is probably why he looks so good In.

1312
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 4: Chicago some of the things he didn't look so good

1313
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,199
at as some of his defensive corsi against and boards

1314
01:05:31,239 --> 01:05:34,400
to the middle, play but overall looking really. SOLID i

1315
01:05:34,519 --> 01:05:37,360
mentioned in the main show some of his evolving hockey

1316
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,480
metrics looked really good in a small sample. Size looking

1317
01:05:40,519 --> 01:05:43,000
at THE fhl player, CARD i haven't had a six

1318
01:05:43,039 --> 01:05:45,239
point seventy nine seventy nine percent chance of being a

1319
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,559
six which is pretty good for someone who's a little less,

1320
01:05:48,559 --> 01:05:50,960
heralded and then some of our top prospects that don't

1321
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,599
have as good a, Ratings so definitely someone you should

1322
01:05:53,639 --> 01:05:58,199
be interested in his bash is looking like overall ninetieth.

1323
01:05:58,239 --> 01:06:00,320
Percentile most of that is driven by his shot has

1324
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,280
some pretty decent hits as, well and then the blocks

1325
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,159
are a little bit, lower but that might come up

1326
01:06:05,159 --> 01:06:07,639
with a little bit more. Time let's hear a little

1327
01:06:07,679 --> 01:06:11,679
bit more About Salmon zel from MY rhl Scout jesse And.

1328
01:06:11,679 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 3: Craig has this to say in terms of skating average

1329
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,119
top end speed, lacking but he makes up for it

1330
01:06:18,159 --> 01:06:21,480
with Good edgework's able to transition and maintain speed on the,

1331
01:06:21,559 --> 01:06:24,239
edges but when it comes to puck, races he will

1332
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:28,000
not be winning. Them passing and handling slightly above average puck.

1333
01:06:28,039 --> 01:06:30,440
Handling he makes the odd move along the blue line

1334
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,559
to fake out a, defender but isn't going to dazzle

1335
01:06:32,639 --> 01:06:35,719
the crowd with. Moves shooting below, Average he does well

1336
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,480
getting the puck through opposing shin, pads but rarely on

1337
01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:42,760
net or any challenge for the GOALIE iq above average

1338
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,000
low panic, meter controls the puck with heads, up usually

1339
01:06:46,079 --> 01:06:50,480
finds the best outlet. Pass didn't see much for, checking Did,

1340
01:06:50,519 --> 01:06:54,079
craig but the defense solid defensive game uses his big

1341
01:06:54,119 --> 01:06:56,559
body to rub guys out and control the front of the.

1342
01:06:56,639 --> 01:06:59,480
Net the odd time he did get caught watching the

1343
01:06:59,519 --> 01:07:03,360
puck in the offensive player was able to walk. Him

1344
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,880
this will be something easy to correct at the next.

1345
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:10,440
Level best, asset defensive game and calmness when controlling the

1346
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:14,239
puck looking for outlet. Passes the biggest concern the lack

1347
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:19,000
of any meaningful fantasy. Points the top tier outcome That

1348
01:07:19,079 --> 01:07:21,639
craig can foresee A tier Two if he can translate

1349
01:07:21,679 --> 01:07:23,760
any sort of, offense he could be a fifty point

1350
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,760
guy with average. Periffs the justification there he was a

1351
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,480
top power play in THE ncaaa in top power play

1352
01:07:30,519 --> 01:07:32,599
In chicago for the short stint at the end of the.

1353
01:07:32,599 --> 01:07:36,199
Season most likely lack of other options will help him

1354
01:07:36,239 --> 01:07:38,000
out if that's the, case but it does show a

1355
01:07:38,039 --> 01:07:41,239
little bit of. Hope the median Outcome tier three a

1356
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,440
thirty five to forty point guy with average. Perifs he's

1357
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,679
got a top four defenseman written all over, him Says.

1358
01:07:47,719 --> 01:07:50,079
Craig lucky to the points will come with the amount

1359
01:07:50,079 --> 01:07:52,639
of minutes he's going to be. Playing in the stylistic,

1360
01:07:52,679 --> 01:07:55,559
Comparable he's going to go With jake, McCabe a solid

1361
01:07:55,639 --> 01:07:59,639
top four defenseman with modest. Points Sam renzel goes up

1362
01:07:59,639 --> 01:08:04,480
Against Riiker evans in THE Nhl Rankking, pole And nzel

1363
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:08,960
is the clear, winner sixty to forty Over Riker Evans.

1364
01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:10,960
Victor is that how you rank the?

1365
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:15,679
Speaker 4: Two, yeah, Definitely i'm Taking renzel every day there Over.

1366
01:08:15,719 --> 01:08:18,000
EVANS i think he has more. UPSIDE i think his

1367
01:08:18,199 --> 01:08:23,399
floor is also pretty. High evans has been pretty good

1368
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,760
In seattle on who's been a bit blocked By Vince

1369
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:30,399
dunn And, monteur and he's certainly made his own way

1370
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,039
and been pretty. Impressive BUT i Think. RENZEL i just

1371
01:08:33,039 --> 01:08:35,920
Think grenzel has a lot. More i'm glad That Ben

1372
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,239
pope was pretty optimistic and singing his praises, too BECAUSE

1373
01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:41,000
i feel Like i've been saying it into an echo

1374
01:08:41,079 --> 01:08:44,399
chamber for, years so it's nice to hear other people saying.

1375
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,199
IT i just think he's much better than people give

1376
01:08:46,279 --> 01:08:49,680
him credit. For AND i Think jake McCabe is probably

1377
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,800
under selling the upside That renzel. HAS i think he

1378
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,760
has a lot more offense than it might. Seem we

1379
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,800
were talking about who's going to run the power play In.

1380
01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:59,960
CHICAGO i don't think you should be surprised if It's.

1381
01:09:00,039 --> 01:09:03,680
AMRENZEL i think that certainly left shoot off IS i,

1382
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,199
think as you heard From ben erratic maybe a good,

1383
01:09:06,199 --> 01:09:08,840
word very, unpredictable and sometimes that isn't what you want

1384
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,239
in a power play. Quarterback so maybe he's out there

1385
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:14,439
in a different. Role But renzel is just so, calm,

1386
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,920
collected so good, defensively good. STICK i think he's someone

1387
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,239
who you're very confident to have back, there and as a,

1388
01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:22,479
coach you don't want someone that's going to be a

1389
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,600
little bit unpredictable and maybe lead to some. Chances, again

1390
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,640
SO i would certainly wouldn't put it out of the

1391
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,279
question That renzel is at least power play two, guy

1392
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:33,279
and maybe more SO i definitely like That he's got

1393
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,720
pretty good. Bash as you can, Tell Ryker evans has

1394
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,720
been certainly pretty solid for the hits and. Blocks hasn't

1395
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,039
been a big of a, shooter but there's and there's

1396
01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:44,279
a decent number of minutes, there so overall he's a

1397
01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:47,279
pretty solid. Guy if you look at the hockey prospecting

1398
01:09:47,319 --> 01:09:50,199
between these. Two Because rinzel WAS d minus one AND

1399
01:09:50,279 --> 01:09:53,439
d zero in high, school some of his equivalentsies don't

1400
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,640
look that, high but he was actually able to raise

1401
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,600
it quite a bit with his college, play but it

1402
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,680
only went up to eight. Percent still looks a little

1403
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,840
bit more pessimistic in this range and overall pretty similar

1404
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,960
To evans, Actually but THE pnhl Has renzel up and

1405
01:10:08,079 --> 01:10:11,479
up above sixty percent almost seventy sorry nine percent up

1406
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,960
to seventy, points which is pretty. Awesome evans is down

1407
01:10:15,079 --> 01:10:18,239
in the forty, range which is where a little bit

1408
01:10:18,239 --> 01:10:20,760
above where he actually is pace wise in THE. Nhl

1409
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looking at some other comps For, renzel there's some interesting ones,

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Here Alex, Kulogowski Justin, Schultz Jacob, Bernard docker someone he

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looks a little bit alike in this. Model BUT i

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think there's upside for a lot more than. THAT J,

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fresh As jfresh is going to, do is pretty pessimistic On.

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Rerenzel one percent chance of being a, star twelve percent

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chance of being IN nhl are not super. Optimistic BUT i,

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think As i've said, along there's more upside. There so

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go ahead and get excited About Sam. RSEL i would

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say that's all for Our. Blackhawks Dig if you're a,

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patroon you can listen to my top ten prospect recap On.

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Patreon if you're interested in, scouting you can shoot me

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A dm On, Twitter, discord or email.

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Speaker 8: Us and that's. It, jess you're right back to close

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up the.

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Speaker 9: Show before we close out, now to remind, you fantracks

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dot com is where you can play fantasy.

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Speaker 3: Sports nine different sports. Available all they need is one

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you and one. League and, yeah that's what you can.

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Do you could be playing football right, now or you

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could be starting up a basketball or a hockey. League

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ever heard of? Hockey fantasy? Hockey try. It it's a

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lot of fun fan. Tracks HQ's got fantasy content to.

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think our Crew, Shimo, Tim Ryan. Crafter they're the commission,

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the coming. Year tony And patrick co lead. Scouts Mike

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steven And I'm matt help out with this show. Prep my,

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goodness we make sheets every. Time today's is forty six pages.

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Long forty six pages. Long brandon helps with the, website

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prospect ranks and. Visualizations and if you have skills you'd

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like to lend the, Show victor would love to hear from.

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You in The discord email or on the. Socials we're

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us work. THERE i do a solo, Show Dynasty Sports.

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LIFE i talk about Different Dynasty. Sports the show that

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this was about our four teamly four sports league that includes.

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Hockey includes several luminaries from this, league such As Victor

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nunio One Victor nunio and the trades that have gone

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down in the first two years of that intersport. Trades

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all those fun types of. Things you can follow us

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