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Speaker 1: Welcome to thrilling Threads. This is the deep dive where

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we comb through the facts, the evidence, and all the

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research and we look for those moments, those glitches where

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everything we think we know about reality just well, it

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pushes back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and today we're not just looking at simple cold

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cases or you know, historical footnotes that somewhat eventually figured out.

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We are focused squarely on events that were documented, researched

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events where the actual physical evidence we're talking lab reports,

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military logs, credible eyewitness testimony just flat out contradicts every

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single logical, scientific explanation we have.

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Speaker 1: We're really talking about true world class anomalies. I mean,

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we've compiled a stack of source material that is just

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it's profoundly strange. Think about this for a second. Huh

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A quiet, peaceful French village that overnight descends into mass hallucination,

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convinced they're being chased by dragons.

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Speaker 2: It sounds medieval, it does.

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Speaker 1: Or Or how about this translucent gelatinous blobs falling from

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the sky that lab later discovers contain human white blood cells.

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Speaker 2: That one is just I still can't wrap my head

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around it.

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Speaker 1: And maybe, to top it all off, a massive five

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masted ship found perfectly intact food ready to be served

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in the galley, but every single person on board just

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gone vanished, without a trace, no struggle, nothing.

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Speaker 2: And that's the key, right, It's that combination of high

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strangeness with the verifiable, sometimes forensic evidence that's what makes

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these cases so enduring. I mean, when a mystery is

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being documented by scientific American or the FBI gets involved.

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Speaker 1: That's not folklore anymore, exactly.

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Speaker 2: It moves into a different category entirely.

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Speaker 1: So our mission today for you is to quickly but

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really thoroughly unpack the key facts and more importantly, the

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most startling contradictions for nine distinct documented mysteries. We want

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to give you the specific scientific context behind why the

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experts in the field, chemists, oceanographers, radar technicians were ultimately

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just forced to throw up.

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Speaker 2: Their hands because the facts simply didn't fit. This is

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all about finding those aha moments, not in the solutions,

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but in the anomalies themselves.

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Speaker 1: Right, So where do we start.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the visceral, the stuff that gets under

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your skin. We're jumping into section one chemical, biological and

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contaminated anomalies. The really visceral mysteries.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's do it. We have to begin with a

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story that genuinely it sends a shiver down your spine.

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It's the Tail, the Cursed Bread of constantuspri in France

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back in nineteen fifty one. Can you just, I mean

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set the scene for us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Imagine a quiet postwar village in the south of France.

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Everything's calm, and then almost literally overnight, the entire town

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explodes into this collective madness.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't just a few people, No.

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Speaker 2: Over three hundred people were affected almost simultaneously, and the

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source material describes symptoms that are just they're horrific. People

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were consumed by these terrible visceral.

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Speaker 1: Hallucinations like what specifically.

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Speaker 2: They reported seeing walls melting, feeling insects crawling under their skin,

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believing their own houses were shrinking around on them. And yes,

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people genuinely felt they were being hunted by mythical creatures

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dragon snakes.

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Speaker 1: So this is full blown terrifying psychosis on a mass scale.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely five people died, dozens more had to be restrained

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in street jackets and were sent to mental institutions. It

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was an outbreak of severe terrifying madness.

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Speaker 1: For decades though. There was a pretty simple accepted explanation.

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Speaker 2: Right there was. The intellectual fallback was ergot poisoning. It

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seemed to make perfect sense. Ergot is a nasty fungus

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Claviceps per poiea that grows on rye.

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Speaker 1: And rye flower is used for bread exactly.

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Speaker 2: So the theory was a local baker used contaminated flower

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and the whole town basically got dosed with a massive,

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naturally occurring hallucinogen. The fungus produces alkaloids that are chemically

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very similar to LSD.

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Speaker 1: So case closed, tragic accident, bad batch of flower, and.

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Speaker 2: That was the official consensus for almost fifty years. It

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runs into this massive, undeniable contradiction when you look at

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the actual pharmacology of ergot see classical ergot poisoning, which

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was known historically as Sant Anthony's fire. It doesn't just

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cause hallucinations. It has these horrific physical symptoms because one

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of the main alkaloids, O gota mean is a potent,

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a potent vasoconstrictor.

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Speaker 1: Vesoconstrictor, meaning it tightens your blood vessels.

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Speaker 2: Precisely, it severely restricts blood flow, especially to your extremities

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your fingers and toes. And this leads to the absolute

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hallmark physical symptom of ergotism, which is gangreen, the painful

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burning death of tissue.

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Speaker 1: So if it was ergot people should have been their

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fingers and toes should have been dying, they.

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Speaker 2: Should have been blackening and dying. But in Polsen's prix,

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while the psychological symptoms were off the charts, these physical

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signs of gangreen were almost entirely absent.

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Speaker 1: Wow, so the body of evidence doesn't match the required

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physical consequence of the poison. That's the key, that's the

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pivot point that just blows the natural explanation out of

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the water.

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Speaker 2: It does because if the contamination wasn't naturally occurring ergod

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it suggests a completely different kind of contaminant was at play.

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One they could induce these purely psychological LSD like effects

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without causing the physical destruction of tissue.

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Speaker 1: And this is where the story goes from a tragic

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accident to something, well, something much more sinister.

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Speaker 2: Exactly entered an investigative journalist's named Hank Galbarelli. He spent

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years digging into this and he's the one who found

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declassified CIA documents that well, they put this entire French

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village into a terrifying new light.

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Speaker 1: What did the documents say.

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Speaker 2: They explicitly mentioned Paul senispri by name. They connected the

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town to Project.

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Speaker 1: Mk Ultra mk Ultra, the secret government mind control program.

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Speaker 2: The very one, the decade's long illegal program dedicated to

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behavior modification and the use of chemical incapacitance. The implication

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was profound. Maybe this event wasn't an accident at all.

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Speaker 1: So the lack of Gangreene, that chemical distinction becomes the

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crucial piece of evidence. It forced researchers to look for

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something else, a different agent, right, And one.

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Speaker 2: Of the alternatives that's been proposed by research which just

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working on the source material is a compound known as

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bezy bzy or three quinn euclidinal bens late. It's a

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highly potent hallucinogen developed by the US military. It's notorious

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for causing delirium confusion, profound psychological disorientation, all without the

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vascular restriction problems you get with er gotamine.

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Speaker 1: So the current theory, which I mean you have to

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accept a pretty profound level of conspiracy for this, is

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that the town was a secret test site.

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Speaker 2: That's the belief that it was either an aerosolized dispersal

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of LSD or BEZ maybe sprayed over the area, or

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a controlled study where the food supply was contaminated, all

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run by US military or intelligence to test the effects

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of the agent on a contained, unsuspecting population.

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Speaker 1: It's just it forces you into this really uncomfortable choice.

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Which is easier to believe a botanical poison in that

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somehow failed to produce its primary physical symptom, or a

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secret US chemical weapons test on a quiet French.

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Speaker 2: Village, And the failure of the scientific evidence for the

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first one compels you to seriously consider the second one,

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no matter how morally repulsive it is.

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Speaker 1: It's an intellectual dead end that leads to a very

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very dark conclusion. Well, let's move from a potentially controlled

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disaster to a bizarre natural one, or at least what

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appears to be one. Let's talk about the Oakville blobs

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in Washington nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 2: This is a perfect example of a mystery that combines

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a meteorologically impossible event with immediate devastating biological consequences.

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Speaker 1: So what happened? It wasn't just.

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Speaker 2: Rain, you know, for three weeks in Oakville, Washington. Instead

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of rain, these translucent, gelatinous blobs fell from the sky.

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They were tiny, about the size of half a grain

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of rice, but they fell repeatedly, over and over, and

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people got sick immediately. A large percentage of the population

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developed these severe, long lasting flu like symptoms. We're talking

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extreme exhaustion, nausea, respiratory issues that just dragged on for months.

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Speaker 1: And what about animals?

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Speaker 2: That was maybe the most alarming sign. The sources note

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that several outdoor pets, especially cats, they fell critically ill

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and died shortly after this strange rain began.

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Speaker 1: So a local woman collected a sample, right, and she

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took it to a doctor.

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Speaker 2: She did, and this is where the mystery elevates from

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just strange weather to a full blown biological anomaly. Under

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a microscope, the doctor noticed something profoundly disturbing in the goo,

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which was it contained human white blood cells.

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Speaker 1: Wait, human white blood cells, I mean that changes everything.

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The question isn't what caused the weird rain anymore. It's

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how did human biological material, the core of our immune system,

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get into the atmosphere and rain down on.

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Speaker 2: A town and it gets weirder. Yeah, Testing by the

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Washington State Department of Eucology confirmed more there were two

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types of bacteria teeming inside these blobs. One was Bacillis globegi,

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which is a common soil bacterium, but the other was

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a common strain found in the human digestive.

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Speaker 1: System, so soil bacteria and gut bacteria mixed with human

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white blood cells falling from the sky exactly.

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Speaker 2: The comedy is what the source material points to is

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the core contradiction. You have undeniable biological evidence linking this

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weird precipitation directly to widespread illness, but with a completely

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impossible origin.

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Speaker 1: What about the obvious theory a plane dumping waste.

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Speaker 2: That was the standard fall back, but it was dismissed

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pretty quickly. The FAA, the Federal Aviation Administration, had two

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really strong points against it.

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Speaker 1: What were they?

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Speaker 2: First, airplane waste is chemically dyed blue. It's safety measure.

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And second, it's deliberately not dumb to midflight. But even

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if it were, the altitude would likely cause it to

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freeze into crystals or disperse over a massive area, not

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fall as concentrated blobs on one small town.

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Speaker 1: But more importantly, how would an airplane discharge possibly explained

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the survival of viable human white blood cells.

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Speaker 2: That's the real question I want to push on. Because

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white blood cells are fragile, They're not just They don't

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just float up into the atmosphere and hang.

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Speaker 1: Out for a while, right they break down.

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Speaker 2: The integrity of the samples suggests that whatever the source was,

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it had to be relatively recent, relatively low altitude, and

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highly concentrated. This has led to some wilder theories well,

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some going to suggest that he was related to a

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jet breaking the sound barrier through some very specific atmospheric condition,

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in some kind of vortex and collectively expelled material at altitude.

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fact it happened for three weeks, or the specific human

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biological material.

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Speaker 1: So the ultimate contradiction here is you have this undeniable,

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fragile human biological material, it's linked to a severe illness outbreak.

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It's falling from the sky, but there's no plausible delivery

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mechanism that doesn't involve some extreme and frankly bizarre form

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of human intervention. It remains profoundly disturbing.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of biological phenomena the challenge belief, let's turn to

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a historical anomaly that is so bizarre it sounds like

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it's from a fairy tale or maybe a horror movie.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about the Kentucky Meat Shower of eighteen seventy six,

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the one.

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Speaker 2: And only a true classic. The sheer absurdity of it

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is what makes it so memorable. Can you just imagine

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you're Missus Crouch. You're sitting on your porch in Bath County, Kentucky,

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on a perfectly clear day, a clean blue sky, and

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chunks of fresh red meat just start raining down.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't just a little sprinkle, was it.

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Speaker 2: No, it felt like a heavy shower all over town.

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And what elevates this beyond some rural tall taiale is

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the meticulous documentation. It was covered by major reputable publications

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at the time. We're talking to New York Times and

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critically scientific American, which actually sent an investigator.

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Speaker 1: And then there's the detail that always just gets me,

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the sheer historical grossness of it.

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Speaker 2: All the people actually tasted it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they tasted the mystery meat falling from the.

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Speaker 2: Sky, and the reports are consistent. The general consensus was

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that it tasted like mutton or venison. They couldn't be sure,

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but that's what they said. And that commitment to detail,

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as unsettling as it is, it helps anchor the event

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in concrete reality.

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Speaker 1: So what did the analysis find?

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Speaker 2: Subsequent micro scopic analysis, which is detailed in the source material,

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Speaker 1: So we have the undeniable. What now for the impossible?

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How The leading theory, the one that science desperately clings to,

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is the vulture theory.

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Speaker 2: The vulture theory it posits that a large flock of vultures,

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maybe after gorging on a dead horse or cow, collectively

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vomited their heavy meal while flying overhead to lighten their burden.

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Speaker 1: And as you said, it's science just grasping at the

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only known biological mechanism that could possibly explain raining meats.

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Speaker 2: But it's so deeply unsatisfying, and it's not just because

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it's gross. It's because of the glaring eyewitness contradictions.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what were they.

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Speaker 2: The people on the ground insisted the meat fell from

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a great height and they all reported hearing a strange,

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audible snapping sound as it fell.

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Speaker 1: A snapping sound. That's the detail that breaks the vulture theory,

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isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It completely breaks it. Vulture Vomit is a diffuse, low

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velocity expulsion. A snapping sound suggests velocity pressure, maybe impact

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something falling from a great height or at high speed.

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Speaker 1: What about the vultures themselves, That's the other thing.

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Speaker 2: There were zero reports of a massive flock of vultures

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in the area that day. If a flock big enough

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to cover a town in meat had just gorged themselves

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and then thrown up, someone would notice them. They would

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have been named as the culprits immediately.

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Speaker 1: The researchers who looked at the physics of it, they

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said the sound meant whatever was falling had to be

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traveling at a much higher terminal velocity than you'd get

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from simple bird puke.

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Speaker 2: So the vulture theory it explains that what it was meat,

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but it completely fails to explain the how the clear sky,

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the high velocity, the snapping sound, and the complete absence

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of the culprits.

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Speaker 1: The remaining data points just they suggest some unknown atmospheric

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or spatial delivery mechanism, which is a conclusion experts back

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then were completely unwilling to entertain, and.

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Speaker 2: Nearly one hundred and fifty years later, it remains unresolved

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because the data forces a conclusion that is just mechanically dubious.

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Speaker 1: It sets us up perfectly for our next section, where

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the established rules of physics and even time itself are

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just utterly abandoned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now we're moving from biological contamination to spatial and

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temporal contamination. These cases involve large object ships, planes defying

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non navigation, people disappearing without a trace, and objects arriving

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decades late.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with maybe the most iconic ghost ship tail

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in American history, the enigma of the ghost ship Carol,

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a deering found off the coast of North Carolina in

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January nineteen twenty one. This was a huge vessel, a

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five masted schooner.

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Speaker 2: And the initial discovery, which was meticulously documented by the Coastguard,

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is what makes this case so completely baffling. The ship

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itself was sound, it'd run aground, but it was intact,

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but every single one of the eleven crew members gone.

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Speaker 1: And the scene was just frozen in time.

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Speaker 2: Exactly the galley was prepped for the next meal. The

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pots were literally still on the stone, ready for cooking.

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Speaker 1: But the crucial items, the things you'd need for survival

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or navigation, they were missing all the lifeboats, ship's logs,

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all the navigation equipment.

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Speaker 2: Would contrast that with what was left behind, all the

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crew's personal belongings, their boots, their rein gear, their money.

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It was all still in their cabins. There was absolutely

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no sign of violence, no struggle, no chaos.

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Speaker 1: It suggests this collective immediate vanishing act organized enough to

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take the lifeboats and the logs, but so sudden they

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left dinner on the stove.

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Speaker 2: The government launched a massive, high level investigation, The FBI

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got involved, the Treasury Department. They were considering mutiny, piracy,

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even Bolshevik intervention. This was post World War One paranoia

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running high.

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Speaker 1: But the lack of a struggle just made all those

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theories really hard to sustain. Why would mutineers prep a meal,

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Why would pirates take only the lifeboats and leave valuable

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cargo in cash?

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Speaker 2: And the whole investigation was famously derailed by this completely

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ridiculous false lead. You have to appreciate the audacity of

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the man in a guy named Christopher Columbus Gray.

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Speaker 1: Ah, Yes, the desperate lighthouse job hopeful exactly.

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Speaker 2: Gray completely fabricated a story he claimed he found a

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message in a bottle from the crew saying they'd been

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captured by a mysterious oil burning vessel, and.

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Speaker 1: The FBI wasted a ton of time and resources chasing

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this piracy fabrication.

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Speaker 2: Only to discover Gray's motive was purely self serving. He

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thought if he could look like some kind of maritime hero,

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he could land a job at the local lighthouse.

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Speaker 1: The absurdity of that part of the investigation just highlights

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how desperate the authorities were for any explanation, no matter

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how remote, And.

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Speaker 2: Once that was debunked, they were left with these three

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impossible contradictions. First, if bad weather forced them into the lifeboats,

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why did no debris, no bodies, not even the lifeboats

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themselves ever wash up. The coast was heavily searched.

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Speaker 1: And second, if it was a mutiny, again, why was

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there no evidence of a struggle and why was the

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meal still being prepped.

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Speaker 2: The third question, which really speaks to a professional sailor's mindset,

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why take or destroy the ship's log A logbook is

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a sacred document. It's the captain's legal history of the voyage, so.

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Speaker 1: Leaving personal belongings, but taking the log suggests either a

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deliberate effort to hide what happened or an intention by

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the crew to survive and continue charting their journey.

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Speaker 2: But if they intended to survive, where did eleven men

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in lifeboats go? The case was officially closed in nineteen

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twenty two with no resolution. It's a perfect snapshot of

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a collective vanishing without a cause.

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Speaker 1: That deep dive into the unexplained takes us thousands of

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miles across the Pacific to a similar vanishing act that

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presents an even stranger geographical and well temporal paradox.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the enigma of the Sarah Joe.

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Speaker 1: This is a truly devastating story. Five friends. They go

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out fishing off Maui, Hawaii in nineteen seventy nine. An

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unexpected squall hits the area and they just vanish.

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Speaker 2: The ghost guards search relentlessly, found nothing, and eventually the

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case was deemed lost at sea. The families were left.

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Speaker 1: With no answers until nearly a decade later, nineteen eighty eight,

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the wreckage.

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Speaker 2: Is found, and this is where the physics. Defining contradiction begins.

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The boat wasn't found anywhere near Hawaii. It was found

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on a remote, uninhabited aightholl in the Marshall Islands.

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Speaker 1: And why is that location so unbelievable?

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Speaker 2: It completely defines basic oceanography, It defies fluid dynamics. We

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know the prevailing currents in that part of the Pacific.

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You have the north equatorial current, the prevailing westerlies. They

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defined the drift patterns.

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Speaker 1: So any debris lost off Mali should be pushed.

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Speaker 2: West, generally toward the Philippines or Japan. The Marshall Islands

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are thousands of miles up wind and against the dominant

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current flow. For a small, unpowered boat to drift there,

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it would require persistent, powerful external force acting against the

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expected marine physics for years.

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Speaker 1: The logistics of that journey alone just along They challenged

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the entire idea of simple unpowered drift. But then you

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add the temporal paradox, which is even more incredible.

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Speaker 2: It is the marine biologists who found the wreck in

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nineteen eighty eight. He suggested the boat had been floating

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for nine years. Makes sense, but a scientific team of

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biologists had conducted a thorough documented survey of that exact

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atoll in nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 1: Two, six years before the discovery, right.

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Speaker 2: And they testified under oath that the boat and the

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accompanying grave were not there at the time.

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Speaker 1: WHOA. So the Serjo couldn't have just drifted there over

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nine years and sat there. It had to have been

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floating in the open ocean for at least three more years,

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defying the currents, only to suddenly appear on that atoll

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sometime after nineteen eighty two.

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Speaker 2: The sheer improbability of an object maintaining a position against

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the current flow and then suddenly arriving at an uninhabited spot,

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just just a profound spadiotemporal dislocation.

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Speaker 1: And then there's the final haunting piece of evidence.

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Speaker 2: The grave next to the wreckage was a shallow grave

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marked by a crude wooden cross, probably made from driftwood,

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and inside that grave were the jawbone and remains of

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one of the crewmen, Scott Mormon.

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Speaker 1: So this creates the magnificent core paradox of the whole case.

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Who buried Scott Mormon? Where are the other four men?

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And how did the boat manage to defy all known

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physical laws traveling thousands of miles up when and then

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appear on the atoll only between nineteen eighty two and

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nineteen eighty eight, years after it vanished.

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Speaker 2: The Fact that someone a surviving crew member or someone

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else entirely took the time to construct a cross and

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bury him suggests a period of survival and conscious action.

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Yet only one set of remains was ever found. The

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source material just leaves us with a bewildering failure of

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geography and time.

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Speaker 1: It suggests an external force was involved, something that violated

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the predictable behavior of objects on the open ocean.

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Speaker 2: A force that plays with time, perhaps, which brings us

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to the most famous case of alleged temporal displacement in

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aviation history, Flight nine fourteens thirty seven year delay. Now,

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this is often relegated to urban legend, but the root

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data points are incredibly difficult to just dismiss out of hand.

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Speaker 1: So this was in nineteen ninety two in Caracas, Venezuela.

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Air traffic controllers just see something impossible.

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Speaker 2: A plane suddenly appears on radar out of nowhere in

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a restricted airspace. The pilot contacts the tower and he

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sounds panic distressed. He identifies the aircraft as Flight nine fourteen,

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which was scheduled to land in Miami on July second,

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nineteen fifty.

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Speaker 1: Five, thirty seven years late. I mean, you can imagine

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the absolute chaos.

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Speaker 2: In the Caracas tower and the plane itself. It was

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identified as a vintage piston engine Douglas DC four, an

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aircraft type that had been retired for decades.

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Speaker 1: The pilot actually managed to land and the ground crew

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could see the passengers.

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Speaker 2: Described as terrified, pressed up against the windows of this

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vintage aircraft. But before any authorities could reach the plane,

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the communication just took this terrifying turn. The pilot screamed

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over the radio, don't come near us, We're leaving now,

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and he did.

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Speaker 1: He immediately taxied back to the runway gun the piston

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engines took off with incredible speed and just disappeared from radar,

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never found again.

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Speaker 2: Now, of course, this story is widely dismissed as a

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tabloid hoax. Pan AM naturally had no record of a

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plane disappearing in nineteen fifty five. But, and this is

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the absolutely critical detail. It makes it impossible to just

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throw away the logs. The source material states that specific

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air traffic control logs did record an unidentified vintage aircraft

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entering that restricted Caracas airspace on.

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Speaker 1: That day, the official recording of an unidentified, non modern

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aircraft entering military controlled airspace. That forces a profound question.

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If the pilot's dialogue was a hoax, why the radar entry.

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If it was just a modern plane trying to prank

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the tower, why did the ground crew see a nineteen

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fifties DC four.

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Speaker 2: The technical difficulty of a nineteen fifty five DC four

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navigating modern airspace and then vanishing without a trace, no wreckage,

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no modern electronic signature. It suggests that if the event

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is true, it's not a lapse in procedure, it's a

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failure of temporal physics.

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Speaker 1: We're almost forced to consider mechanisms like time slipping phenomena

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ideas usually confined to science fiction, simply because the documented

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evidence that radar logs showing an anomalous vintage contact exists

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in official records.

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Speaker 2: The pilot's panic, the vintage aircraft, the documented radar entry.

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It's a perfect storm of data pointing towards something fundamentally

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in our understanding of how time interacts with physical objects.

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Speaker 1: It's the ultimate vanishing act and that leads us perfectly

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into our final section, where the environment itself seems to

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be the active agent of strangeness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Our final section focuses on phenomena that distorted our environment.

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They impact technology, geology, even biology. These are places and

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moments where the very fabric of our reality seems unstable

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and where our own instruments lie to us.

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Speaker 1: We have to start with a notorious geographical anomaly, the

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Zono del Salentcio or the Silent Zone, deep in the

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desert of Durango, Mexico. This place is famous for its

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uncanny ability to disrupt technology and well attract the impossible.

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Speaker 2: The initial discovery, or I guess the initiating incident that

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put it on the map, was in nineteen seventy the

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US launched an Athena test missile from a base in Utah.

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It was supposed to land hundreds of miles away in

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a designated test range, but it didn't not even close.

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It inexplicably veered hundreds of miles off course and headed

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straight for this one specific, unremarkable patch of desert, and.

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Speaker 1: When the recovery teams arrived, they immediately ran into the problem.

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The zone is named for.

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Speaker 2: The profound silence. Radio equipment just stopped working. Communications between

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the recovery crews were nearly impossible. Equipment just failed. It

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is a genuine, confirmed dead spot for radio, television, and

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short wave signals, so of.

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Speaker 1: Course researchers immediately look for a geological explanation.

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Speaker 2: Right, and the area is known to contain massive amounts

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of magnetite and uranium, which are highly magnetic materials, so

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that could certainly cause magnetic interference, potentially warping radio waves.

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But here's the contradiction.

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Speaker 1: What is it.

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Speaker 2: Experts cannot explain why the effect is so highly localized

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magnetic fields they dissipate according to the inverse square law,

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you'd expect a much wider, more diffuse area of interference.

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Yet it's concentrated precisely in this one specific.

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Speaker 1: Zone, and the effects aren't just limited to radio waves,

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not at all.

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Speaker 2: Pilots have reported their navigational instruments just flatlined the second

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they fly over the zone. It's also a magnet for

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space junk. It has one of the highest recorded meteorites

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strike rates on Earth, which suggests some kind of deep

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geological or even gravitational anomaly.

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Speaker 1: But the most compelling and strangest piece of evidence that

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something fundamental is happening. There is biological yes.

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Speaker 2: Our sources note that the local wildlife is affected. There's

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a specific type of tortoise in the zone that exhibits

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strange physical mutations, mutations that are entirely absent in the

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exact same species living just a few miles away outside

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the magnetic boundary.

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Speaker 1: So think about the comprehensive nature of this failure state.

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You've got technological failure with radios and navigation, a geological

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anomaly attracting meteorites, and localized biological mutation, all concentrated in

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one spot.

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Speaker 2: It suggests it's not just magnetic interference. It's a complete

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environmental shift that affects life and physics itself, causing this

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highly specific, localized geomagnetic anomaly that warps signal propagation and

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potentially even influences DNA.

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Speaker 1: It makes you wonder if the unique mineral rich composition

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of that area is somehow amplifying a natural but extremely

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rare planetary function.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps related to the constant bombardment of extraterrestrial materials acting

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as a permanent localized distortion field.

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Speaker 1: It's a wild thought, Okay, Next let's discuss an event

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that came within inches of starting a global crisis, the

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double flash incident in the Indian Ocean nineteen seventy nine.

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This is a terrifying mystery because it involves the definitive

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signature of the most destructive force known to humanity.

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Speaker 2: On September twenty two, nineteen seventy nine, a US VILLA

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satellite registered a double flash of light near the remote

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Prince Edward Islands off the coast of South Africa. Now,

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the VILLA system was established during the Cold War for

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one reason, and one reason only, nuclear test monitoring.

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Speaker 1: That double flash, that's the telltale sign is.

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Speaker 2: The unambiguous optical signature of a nuclear detonation. You get

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the initial extremely brief X ray pulse and that's followed

534
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milliseconds later by the mass of fireball expansion and cooling.

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Nothing else looks.

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Speaker 1: Like that, So naturally, the US government went into immediate

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full scale crisis mode. They thought a rogue nation, maybe

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South Africa, had just set off a clandestine nuke in

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the middle of the ocean.

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Speaker 2: The crisis level dropped slightly, but the mystery deepened exponentially

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when the surveillance planes they sent to the area found

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absolutely zero radioactive fallout in their air samples.

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Speaker 1: And that's the ultimate profound contradiction. The satellite detected a

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perfectly matched nuclear light signature, but the essential physical consequence,

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the radioactive residue, was completely absent.

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Speaker 2: The official explanation, which was provided by a White House panel,

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was quickly dubbed a zoo event.

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Speaker 1: A zoo event, that's a fancy term for what exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's a fancy term for suggesting a tiny meteoroid or

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a piece of space junk hit the satellite sensor at

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the perfect angle to perfectly trick it into seeing a double.

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Speaker 1: Flash, and how likely is that?

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Speaker 2: This is where the physics skepticism comes in. The physicist

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on the counterpanel argued vehemently against the Zoo event. They

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explained that the chance of a random meteoroid perfectly mimicking

556
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the exact light signature, including the precise time sensitive optical

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curve of the initial flash followed by the secondary expansion, was,

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in their words, statistically negligible, or more bluntly, basically zero.

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Speaker 1: So it was a dismissal of the data to avoid

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a terrifying conclusion.

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Speaker 2: Pretty much, and the evidence didn't stop with the light. Crucially,

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simultaneous data that was gathered from underwater hydroacoustic sensors picked

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up a massive sound wave in the exact area at

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the exact time of the flash.

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Speaker 1: So you have a perfect optical detection of a nuke,

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a perfect acoustic detection of a massive explosion.

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Speaker 2: But zero residual proof, no fallout. It makes the case

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truly inexplicable. The evidence suggests an ocean explosion with the

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exact properties of a nuclear blast, but without the radioactive signature.

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The only plausible alternative to the astronomical impossibility theory is

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that some non standard, perhaps technologically advanced, clandestine test occurred

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that somehow suppressed.

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Speaker 1: All the fallout, and the case remains officially unresolved because

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the data is too good to dismiss, but the conclusion

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is impossible to accept. Precisely, we end our survey in

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the most restricted airspace in the world, in a moment

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that terrified the Pentagon and shook the foundations of military aviation.

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The dcufos and radar operators in July of nineteen fifty two, for.

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Speaker 2: Two consecutive weekends in July, the airspace over Washington, DC.

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We're talking right over the White House, the capital. The

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Pentagon was invaded by unidentified objects. And this wasn't just

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a visual sighting by someone on the street.

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Speaker 1: This is on radar.

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Speaker 2: This was a phenomenon recorded on multiple radar screens at

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Washington National Airport and at Andrews Air Force Base. They

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tracked seven distinct solid blips.

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Speaker 1: And their performance just this it broke every known law

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of mid twentieth century aviation completely.

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Speaker 2: The objects were initially tracked moving at a mundane one

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hundred and thirty miles per hour, but then they would

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suddenly accelerate to over seven thousand miles per hour.

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Speaker 1: Seven thousand miles per hour in nineteen fifty two, the

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fastest military jets of the time, the F eighty six Saber,

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could barely reach six hundred.

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Speaker 2: They were being outclassed by a factor of twelve.

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Speaker 1: So the Air Force scrambled jets to intercept.

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Speaker 2: They did, and this is where the incident demonstrates apparent intelligence.

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The moment the jets got close, the blips instantly vanished

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from all the radar scopes. Poof gone, and as soon

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as the jets turned back to refuel and reappeared, the

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blips reappeared In the exact same spots. It was a

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coordinated game of cat and mouse, which strongly suggested the

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objects were somehow monitoring the pilot's radio chatter and actively

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evading radar contact based on real time communication.

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Speaker 1: The public outcry was huge, right imments.

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Speaker 2: It forced the US Air Force to hold its largest

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press conference since the end of World War II, and

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the official explanation they provided was a temperature inversion.

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Speaker 1: The scientific term is anomalous propagation.

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Speaker 2: Right The idea was that a layer of warm air

611
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near the ground was acting like a mirror, balancing radar

612
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waves around and creating these phantom mirages on the screens.

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Speaker 1: But the experienced radar operators, the guys who stared at

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those screens for a living, they immediately rejected that explanation.

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Speaker 2: They called bs to put it mildly, They testified that

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a temperature inversion looks like a diffuse, steady, ghostly blur

617
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on a radar screen. It's an indistinct mess. It does

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not look like sharp, distinct, solid blips that you can track,

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calculate a speed for, and watch perform rapid geometric maneuvers

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right over the White House.

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Speaker 1: So the technical data, the sharpness of the returns, the

622
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calculated seven thousand mile rr acceleration. It just didn't match

623
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the physics of a simple atmospheric mirage.

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Speaker 2: That illustrates the fundamental conflict between official denial and ground

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level technical experience. When the men and women who operate

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the equipment every day reject the scientific explanation because the

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physical data violates their experiential knowledge, the mystery deepens significantly.

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The physical evidence that radar trace, it remains a record

629
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of impossible maneuvers.

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Speaker 1: What a terrifying summary effect. We've really covered everything from

631
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mk ultralinked biological anomalies to ships that defy physics and

632
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planes that defy time.

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Speaker 2: And if you look back across all nine of these cases,

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the cursed bread, the raining meat, the vanishing sailors, the

635
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magnetic zones, the nuclear signature without the fallout, you see

636
00:32:18,279 --> 00:32:21,079
a common and I think thrilling pattern.

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Speaker 1: What's that?

638
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Speaker 2: Established scientific models, whether it's fluid dynamics, chemistry, military protocols,

639
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or meteorology, they were all proven demonstrably inadequate by real

640
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,839
world witnessed and instrument documented events.

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Speaker 1: The sheer range of contradictions is just astounding. You have

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uncontaminated air where there should be nuclear fallout. You have

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human biological material and severe illness linked to rain with

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00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:49,200
no identifiable delivery source. You have boats traveling thousands of

645
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miles against prevailing currents, defying every law of the sea

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and time.

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Speaker 2: And what truly unites all these mysteries is the inherent

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human inability to comfortably accept a conclusion that fundamentally violates

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00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,359
our core understanding of reality. What all the known variables

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are accounted for. The ship is checked, the chemistry is analyzed,

651
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the ocean current is measured, the speed calculation is seven

652
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:13,440
thousand miles an hour, faster than possible, and the facts

653
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,799
still don't fit the picture. You're not left with an answer.

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Speaker 1: No, You're left with the profound thrill and the deep

655
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frustration of the unknown.

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Speaker 2: The source materials present events that were meticulously witnessed, documented

657
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and analyzed by professionals, yet they still lack resolution. And

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this raise is a really provocative thought for.

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Speaker 1: You the listener, which is if highly documented historical events

660
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subjected to FBI scrutiny and scientific analysis by the Department

661
00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:46,599
of Ecology can remain totally inexplicable using the best tools

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we have, what fundamental truths about our world. Might we

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still be.

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Speaker 2: Completely missing, Maybe we've only charted five percent of the

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physical laws that govern existence. The gaps in our knowledge

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are sometimes the most exciting parts of the map. They

667
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,440
force us to question the certainty of everything we think

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00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:02,720
we know.

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Speaker 1: So we'll turn this over to you. Of these nine

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world class mysteries we've discussed, the vanishing sailors of the Deering,

671
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,000
the cursed bread of Ponsenesprie and its chemical conspiracy, the

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silent zones, magnetic chaos, or the time traveling plane of

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Flight nine fourteen. Which one do you think has the

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most logical but still hidden explanation.

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Speaker 2: And which one do you think is truly impossible pointing

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00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,079
toward a dimension or a law of physics we simply

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haven't discovered yet. We encourage you to delve into those

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00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,800
paradoxes and share your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on this deep dive into

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the inexplicable. We'll catch you next time on thrilling threads