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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 1>with our soothing Bedtime Astronomie podcast. Each episode offers a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>slumber under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to try something with me. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>mental exercise to get us started. Okay, I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to close your eyes right now, just for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine you are standing in the middle of a vast

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<v Speaker 2>open field, right You are miles away from the nearest city,

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<v Speaker 2>no street lights, no car headlights, just total absolute darkness.

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<v Speaker 3>And you look up bicks classic night sky, the one

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<v Speaker 3>our ancestors saw exactly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>For ninety nine percent of human history, that view was static.

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<v Speaker 2>It was peaceful.

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<v Speaker 3>It was empty, Yeah, predictable.

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<v Speaker 2>You had the stars, the planets, the Milky Way if

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<v Speaker 2>you were lucky enough to be away from light pollution.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a painting that didn't change. It was the

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<v Speaker 2>definition of stillness.

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<v Speaker 3>But now now it's different.

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<v Speaker 2>Open your eyes because that painting is gone.

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<v Speaker 3>It has been replaced by a highway.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great way to put it. If you go

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<v Speaker 2>out tonight and you have the right equipment, or honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you just have decent eyesight and look closely

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<v Speaker 2>during twilight, that sky is buzzing.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is literally alive with movement. It's not just shooting

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<v Speaker 2>stars anymore. It's hardware. It is human made machinery streaking

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<v Speaker 2>across the constellations.

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<v Speaker 3>It is infrastructure. That is the fundamental shift. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 3>used to look up and see nature, you know, something eternal.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we look up and see traffic.

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<v Speaker 2>And today is Monday, February sixteenth, twenty twenty six. And

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<v Speaker 2>as we sit here right now, the sheer volume of

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<v Speaker 2>metal circling over our heads is well, it's staggering.

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<v Speaker 3>It is. It's hard to comprehend just how busy it

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<v Speaker 3>has gotten in such a short amount of time.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's put a number on it.

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<v Speaker 3>To put a specific number on it. As of this morning,

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<v Speaker 3>there are roughly eleven thousand, eight hundred active satellites in orbit.

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<v Speaker 2>Eleven thousand, eight hundred, just you know, pause on that

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<v Speaker 2>for a second. Nearly twelve thousand distinct machines flying at

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen thousand miles per hour weaving around each other.

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<v Speaker 3>And that number, that eleven thousand, eight hundred, that's just

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<v Speaker 3>the active ones. That doesn't even count the dead ones.

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<v Speaker 3>The old rocket stage is the debris.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, Okay, so the actual number of objects is

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<v Speaker 2>much higher, much much higher. That's already hard for me

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<v Speaker 2>to wrap my head around. I remember when it was

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<v Speaker 2>just a few hundred. But when I looked at the

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<v Speaker 2>projections in the source material for today's analysis, that is

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<v Speaker 2>when I actually got worried.

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<v Speaker 3>You are looking at the twenty thirty numbers, I am,

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<v Speaker 3>and they are.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're exponentially wilder.

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<v Speaker 3>They are. The current industry predition suggests that by the

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<v Speaker 3>end of this decade, so effectively, in just four years,

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<v Speaker 3>that number isn't going to double, it isn't going to triple.

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<v Speaker 3>It could skyrocket to over one hundred thousand satellites.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred thousand. That isn't a highway anymore. No, that

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<v Speaker 2>is a swarm. That is a cloud of metal encasing

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<v Speaker 2>the planet. And this brings us to the absolute heart

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<v Speaker 2>of what we are unpacking today, because there's a tension here,

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<v Speaker 2>a conflict that I think most people, even those who

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<v Speaker 2>follow space news don't fully realize is happening.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the central tension of the modern space age.

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<v Speaker 3>It is what researchers are now calling the space sustainability.

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<v Speaker 2>Paradox, the paradox, and this is the hook for today's

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<v Speaker 2>exploration because on one hand, we are launching all of

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<v Speaker 2>these satellites for noble reasons right for most part, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we aren't just doing it for TikTok or high frequency trading.

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<v Speaker 2>We are trying to save Earth. We are monitoring climate change,

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<v Speaker 2>we are watching crops to ensure food security, we are

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<v Speaker 2>tracking disasters.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely, we are building a nervous system for the planet.

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<v Speaker 3>We are trying to give Earth away to sense itself,

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<v Speaker 3>to monitor its own vital signs.

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<v Speaker 2>But here is the kicker, the irony. Yeah, in doing so,

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<v Speaker 2>in trying to save the environment down here, we might

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<v Speaker 2>be destroying the environment immediately surrounding Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the core of the paradox. It is a

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<v Speaker 3>concept that has been heavily highlighted by researcher John McIntosh

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<v Speaker 3>and his team at the University of Manchester. The argument

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<v Speaker 3>is that the very tools we are using to solve

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<v Speaker 3>environmental and social challenges on Earth could ultimately undermine the

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<v Speaker 3>long term sustainability of space itself.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a cruel irony, isn't it. We are so

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<v Speaker 2>focused on cleaning up the ground that we are trashing

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<v Speaker 2>the ceiling.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a very apt way to put it. And

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<v Speaker 3>the danger is that if we aren't careful, that ceiling

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<v Speaker 3>becomes unusable.

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<v Speaker 2>And if that happens, and if the.

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<v Speaker 3>Ceiling becomes unusable, we lose the ability to monitor the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a feedback loop of failure. If we break space,

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<v Speaker 3>we lose the tools we need to fix Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>So the mission for this analysis is to look at

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<v Speaker 2>a new breakthrough that might actually help us solve this paradox.

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<v Speaker 2>We are looking at research coming out of the University

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<v Speaker 2>of Manchester that proposes a way to keep an eye

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<v Speaker 2>on our planet without turning low Earth orbit into a

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<v Speaker 2>demolition derby.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a fascinating piece of work because challenge is how

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<v Speaker 3>we have traditionally built satellites. It asks us to rethink

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<v Speaker 3>the trade offs between what we want to see on

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<v Speaker 3>the ground and the risks we take in the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to ask a pretty fundamental question.

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<v Speaker 3>It does. It forces us to ask, is the way

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<v Speaker 3>we have been designing these missions actually the dangerous part.

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<v Speaker 2>And just a note for everyone listening, we are going

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<v Speaker 2>to get into the weeds of this. We aren't just

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<v Speaker 2>going to skim the surface. We are going to look

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<v Speaker 2>at the physics, the decision making models, and the surprising

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<v Speaker 2>finding is about where the most dangerous places in orbit

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<v Speaker 2>actually are. And spoiler alert because spoiler alert, it is

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<v Speaker 2>not where you think it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It certainly surprised me. The data is very counterintuitive. It

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<v Speaker 3>challenges a lot of the assumptions even industry veterans have

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<v Speaker 3>held for years.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get into it. Let's start with the basics.

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<v Speaker 2>The crowded sky. Why and I mean really, why are

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<v Speaker 2>we putting one hundred thousand things up there? Is this

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<v Speaker 2>just so I can have faster Internet on my phone?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it just about Starlink and Amazon Kuyper battling for dominance?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, internet connectivity is a big driver. Certainly, the mega

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<v Speaker 3>constellations for broadband are the ones that get the headlines

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<v Speaker 3>because they launch in batches of sixty at a time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's flashy, right, you see the rocket go up, you

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<v Speaker 2>see the videos of them deploying.

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<v Speaker 3>But for this specific discussion and for the research, we

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<v Speaker 3>are analyzing today, the focus is really on Earth observation.

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<v Speaker 2>Satellites Earth observations, so cameras in the sky spying.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, monitoring is the polite term, but essentially yes. However,

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<v Speaker 3>it is much more than just taking pretty pictures or

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<v Speaker 3>military spying. These satellites have become the critical tools for

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<v Speaker 3>meeting the United nations seventeen Sustainable Development Goals or SDGs.

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<v Speaker 2>The SDGs, okay, those are the big global checklists for

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<v Speaker 2>a better world, right, zero hunger, climate action, life on land.

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<v Speaker 3>That's them.

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<v Speaker 2>I see the colorful icons everywhere, but I rarely connect

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<v Speaker 2>them to space hardware.

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<v Speaker 3>You should, because you cannot fix what you cannot measure.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the fundamental rule of engineering in policy. If

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<v Speaker 3>you want to solve zero hunger, you need to know

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<v Speaker 3>where the food is growing, where it is failing, and why.

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<v Speaker 3>That is where these satellites come in. They provide the raw,

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<v Speaker 3>unvarnished data we need to verify if we are actually

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<v Speaker 3>meeting those goals.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we get specific here? I want to visualize this.

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<v Speaker 2>When you say monitoring, what are they actually looking at?

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a concrete example. Let's take one of the goals.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's take land use in urban development. This is

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<v Speaker 3>STG eleven Sustainable Cities and Communities. Okay, right now, cities

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<v Speaker 3>in the global South are expanding at a rate that

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<v Speaker 3>is almost impossible to track from the ground. You have

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<v Speaker 3>informal settlements, slums popping up overnight.

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<v Speaker 2>And governments might not even know they're there.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't have the paperwork exactly, they don't have the

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<v Speaker 3>census data, they don't have the resources to send surveyors

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<v Speaker 3>out every week. But a satellite passes over every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Every single day. It sees the.

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<v Speaker 3>New roofs, It sees the roads being cut into the forest,

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<v Speaker 3>It sees where the infrastructure is failing. It can measure

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<v Speaker 3>the heat island effect of a specific neighborhood. We use

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<v Speaker 3>that data for real time urban planning on a planetary.

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<v Speaker 2>Scale, so it isn't just a map. It is a

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<v Speaker 2>living document of human expansion. It helps them figure out

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<v Speaker 2>where to put water pipes or schools or clinics correct.

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<v Speaker 3>It turns urban planning from a reactive process into a

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<v Speaker 3>proactive one. Then look at environmental degradation. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>big one.

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<v Speaker 2>Climate action, life on land, life below water, all of.

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<v Speaker 3>That, all of it. We are tracking deforestation in the

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<v Speaker 3>Amazon counting the trees as they fall. We are measuring

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<v Speaker 3>the volume of melting ice sheets in the Arctic to

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<v Speaker 3>the cubic meter.

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<v Speaker 2>How is that even possible?

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<v Speaker 3>Using radar altimetry, they bounce signals off the ice and

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<v Speaker 3>measure the return time down to the nanosecond. That tells

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<v Speaker 3>you the height of the ice sheet and you can

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<v Speaker 3>see it shrinking over time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>We are monitoring the health of coral reefs by looking

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<v Speaker 3>at the color of the water. We can even track

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<v Speaker 3>illegal fishing boats by spotting ships that have turned off

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<v Speaker 3>their transponders.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's accountability.

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<v Speaker 3>It's accountability and its measurement. You can have a climate

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<v Speaker 3>treaty if you can't verify if a country is actually

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<v Speaker 3>reduced seeing its emissions or protecting its forests. This is

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<v Speaker 3>the verification system.

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<v Speaker 2>And disaster response is a huge one too. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>reading about this during the last big earthquake season.

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<v Speaker 3>It is critical. It's one of the most immediate life

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<v Speaker 3>saving applications. When an earthquake hits or a hurricane makes landfall,

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<v Speaker 3>the roads are gone, the power lines are.

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<v Speaker 2>Down, chaos on the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>You cannot send a guy in a jeep to check

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<v Speaker 3>the damage. The first thing emergency responders ask for is

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<v Speaker 3>the satellite.

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<v Speaker 2>Pass They need the before and after photo to see

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<v Speaker 2>where help is needed.

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<v Speaker 3>They need a damage map. They need to know which

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<v Speaker 3>bridges are out, which neighborhoods are underwater. That coordination of

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<v Speaker 3>aid getting the water and medicine to the right place

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<v Speaker 3>in the first twenty four hours saves one thousands of lives. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>And that coordination happens because of eyes in the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>It connects back to food security too, doesn't it the

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<v Speaker 2>zero hunger goal?

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<v Speaker 3>It does. This is arguably the most sophisticated usage. We

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<v Speaker 3>aren't just taking photos of corn fields to count the acres.

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<v Speaker 3>More than that, oh much more. We were using hyper

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<v Speaker 3>It tells you everything. We can look at the moisture

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. We can predict a yield shortage in wheat across

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<v Speaker 2>That is incredible. So in a world with a growing

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<v Speaker 3>It smooths out the shocks to the global food system.

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<v Speaker 3>And speaking of shocks, the sources also mentioned supply chains.

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<v Speaker 3>Satellites were tracking that backup in real time. If you

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<v Speaker 3>You could reroute cargo. It's the backbone of global logistics. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So when we talk about these one hundred thousand satellites,

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<v Speaker 3>we have to be clear. We aren't just throwing them

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<v Speaker 3>up there for fun. No, we aren't just doing it

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<v Speaker 3>because we can. We rely on them. They are the

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<v Speaker 2>They really are. If you turn them off tomorrow, we

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<v Speaker 3>We would be back to the nineteen fifties in terms

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<v Speaker 2>We would be reacting to disasters after they happen instead

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so we have established the stakes. The why is solid.

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<v Speaker 3>We need the data. But and here's the massive butt

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<v Speaker 2>There is always a cost. Physics demands a trade off.

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<v Speaker 3>The rapid growth of these missions is making Earth's orbits,

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<v Speaker 2>Hazardous is a polay way of putting it. It is

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<v Speaker 2>becoming a minefield. Break that down for me. When we

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<v Speaker 2>say hazardous, are we talking about traffic jams? Like are

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<v Speaker 3>That's Jim chuckles. I wish it were that simple. No,

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<v Speaker 3>imagine a highway. But on this highway, everyone is driving

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<v Speaker 3>at seventeen thousand miles per hour. Okay, that is the

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<v Speaker 3>speed required to stay in orbit. If you slow down,

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<v Speaker 2>Seventeen thousand miles power That is what ten times faster.

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<v Speaker 3>Than a bullet roughly, Yes, and on this highway there

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<v Speaker 3>are no lanes, there are no stop signs, there is

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<v Speaker 3>right in real time, and no breaks and no breaks,

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<v Speaker 3>And crucially, occasionally a car just falls apart and leaves

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<v Speaker 2>And because there is no air drag to slow it down,

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<v Speaker 2>that bumper just keeps flying at seventeen thousand miles per hour.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely, it stays there for years, maybe decades, maybe centuries,

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<v Speaker 3>depending on the altitude. That is the threat of space debris.

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<v Speaker 2>So even some thing tiny is a problem in space.

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<v Speaker 3>A collision is catastrophic. It is an a fendobender where

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<v Speaker 3>When two satellites collide, or when a satellite hits a

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<v Speaker 3>just dent. The kinetic energy involved is insane, right the physics,

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<v Speaker 3>remember your high school physics. Kinetic energy equals one half

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<v Speaker 3>mass times velocity squared. When the velocity is seventeen thousand

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<v Speaker 3>miles per hour, that v squared term is enormous. So

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<v Speaker 3>even a tiny mass hits with the force of a

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<v Speaker 3>hand grenade.

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<v Speaker 2>A hand grenade that obliterates.

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<v Speaker 3>The object and creates a cloud of thousands of new fragments.

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<v Speaker 2>Which then go on to hit other things. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the Kessler syndrome, right, the runaway chain reaction.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the worst case scenario, the domino effect. One

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<v Speaker 3>collision creates debris, which causes two collisions, which creates more

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<v Speaker 3>debris until the entire orbit is ground into dust. It

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<v Speaker 3>creates a shell of shrapnel around the Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>And if that happens.

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<v Speaker 3>If that happens, we lose space. We cannot launch through

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<v Speaker 3>that cloud. We lose GPS, we lose the weather satellites,

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<v Speaker 3>we lose the climate monitoring. We are trapped on earth

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<v Speaker 3>that is terrifying.

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<v Speaker 2>So by trying to monitor the earth to save it,

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<v Speaker 2>we are clogging up the viewpoint we need to do

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<v Speaker 2>the monitoring.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the space sustainability paradox. In a nutshell, we

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we have established the stakes. We need the data,

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<v Speaker 2>but getting the data is risky. Now let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>why this is happening. Is it just that we are

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<v Speaker 2>launching too many or is there a flaw in how

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<v Speaker 3>It is a bit of both. But the research in

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<v Speaker 3>the University of Manchester highlights a fundamental flaw in the

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<v Speaker 3>traditional design process, a flaw in the thinking exactly. It

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<v Speaker 3>suggests we've been doing the engineering backwards.

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<v Speaker 2>How does it usually work? If I am an engineer

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<v Speaker 3>Traditionally there is a disconnect, a siloed approach. You start

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<v Speaker 3>with mission requirements. Okay, your client comes to you, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it's a government, maybe it does a company and says

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<v Speaker 3>or I need to measure the ice in Antarctica and

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<v Speaker 3>I need the data back to headquarters in under ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>So you focus on the payload, the camera, the antenna,

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<v Speaker 2>the power exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You design the payload to meet those needs. Can we

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<v Speaker 3>get the data? Is the resolution high enough? Is the

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<v Speaker 3>bandwidth fast enough? That is the priority. That is what

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<v Speaker 3>you get paid for. That is the success criteria for

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<v Speaker 3>the mission.

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<v Speaker 2>And safety? Where does safety fit?

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<v Speaker 3>In collision? Risk assessment often happens separately or critically it

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<v Speaker 2>Process, so it's an afterthought.

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<v Speaker 3>It is treated as a regulatory box to check. You

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<v Speaker 3>build the satellite to do the job, you decide where

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<v Speaker 3>it needs to fly to get the pictures, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you check, oh, is this orbit safe.

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<v Speaker 2>It is like designing a sports car that can go

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred miles per hour, building the engine, the chassis,

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<v Speaker 2>the wheels, and then realizing at the very end, oh, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>this thing has no brakes and we are driving on ice.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a surprisingly accurate analogy. You have locked in

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<v Speaker 3>the design parameters, the size, the mass, the orbit before

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<v Speaker 3>you have really calculated the long term risk to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Environment, and at that point it's too late to change it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it is often too expensive to redesign the whole bird,

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<v Speaker 3>so you might tweak the orbit slightly, but largely you'll

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<v Speaker 3>launch anyway and hope for the best.

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<v Speaker 2>And that brings us to the innovation we are analyzing today,

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<v Speaker 2>this new research published in Advances in Space Research. Who

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<v Speaker 2>are the brains behind.

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<v Speaker 3>This The team is from the University of Manchester. You

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<v Speaker 3>have the lead author, John McIntosh, who is a PhD

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<v Speaker 3>researcher doing some really cutting edge work. Then there is

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<v Speaker 3>doctor CERR McGrath, a lecturer in aerospace systems, and Professor

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<v Speaker 3>Catherine Smith, a professor of space technology.

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<v Speaker 2>A solid lineup academics, but with a focus on systems

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<v Speaker 2>engineering practical application.

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<v Speaker 3>Very much so. And what exactly have they built is

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<v Speaker 3>not a new type of shield. It's not a to zapp.

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<v Speaker 2>Debriathe right, It's not a physical thing.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it is something much more boring and much more important.

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<v Speaker 3>They have developed a new modeling framework.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hold on, modeling framework sounds like jargon. What does

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<v Speaker 2>that actually mean? In plain English?

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<v Speaker 3>It means they built a simulator, a decision making tool.

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<v Speaker 3>The key breakthrough here is that it links mission objectives

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<v Speaker 3>directly with collision risk as a key first step in

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<v Speaker 3>mission design.

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<v Speaker 2>So before they even draw the blueprint, before they cut

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<v Speaker 2>a single piece of metal, they are calculating the risk.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, instead of treating safety as an afterthought.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a core design parameter.

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<v Speaker 3>It treats safety in image quality as interconnected variables. You

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<v Speaker 3>cannot change one without affecting the other. It forces the

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<v Speaker 3>engineer to see the consequences of their design choices immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>This sounds like it should have been obvious, but I

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<v Speaker 2>guess when you are in a gold rush, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>think about the dust you are kicking up.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a shift in mindset. It moves from performance

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<v Speaker 3>first to sustainable performance, and that is a huge lead

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<v Speaker 3>for the industry.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get under the hood of this model.

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<v Speaker 2>They call it a framework, but I want to visualize it.

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<v Speaker 2>How does it actually work? What connects a picture of

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<v Speaker 2>a cornfield in Iowa to a collision in space? Because

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<v Speaker 2>those feel like two very different problems.

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<v Speaker 3>To understand that, we have to look at what I

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<v Speaker 3>like to call the iron triangle of orbit. The model

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<v Speaker 3>breaks down several inputs that are all mathematically linked. First,

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<v Speaker 3>you have image resolution.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the quality of the camera, the sharpness of

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<v Speaker 2>the picture. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>How clear does the picture need to be? Do I

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<v Speaker 3>need to see the cornfield as a green blur? Or

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<v Speaker 3>do I need to see the individual stocks of corn.

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<v Speaker 2>High resolution versus low resolution?

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly? In the study they use an example of ero

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<v Speaker 3>point five meters. That is the ground sampling distance. It

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<v Speaker 3>means each pixel in the digital image represents half a

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<v Speaker 3>meter on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>That is sharp. That is sharp enough to see cars,

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<v Speaker 2>small structures, agricultural lines.

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<v Speaker 3>You could count the tents in a refugee camp.

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<v Speaker 2>With that, you could probably tell what kind of car

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<v Speaker 2>it is, but not the license plate.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good way to think about it is the

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<v Speaker 3>standard for high quality commercial observation. So that is input one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what else goes into the simulator?

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<v Speaker 3>Coverage? How much of the Earth that we need to see?

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<v Speaker 3>And how often do you need a global map every

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<v Speaker 3>single day, every hour or just once a month? So

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<v Speaker 3>the revisit rate, the revisit rate exactly. This determines how

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<v Speaker 3>many satellites you need in your constellation.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it, frequency and scope.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you have the satellite physicality, the size and the

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<v Speaker 3>mass of the actual machine. How big is it, how

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<v Speaker 3>heavy is it? And finally the debris density of the

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<v Speaker 3>neighborhood you want to fly in, So how much junk

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<v Speaker 3>is already in that specific orbital shell.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So we have all these variables resolution, coverage, size, debris.

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<v Speaker 2>How do they interact? Because this is where the physics

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<v Speaker 2>of optics comes in, right, And I feel like this

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<v Speaker 2>is where the trade offs get really tricky.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the crux of the problem. This is where

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<v Speaker 3>the Manchester team really showed their work. Let's say you

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<v Speaker 3>are the engineer. You have a requirement. You need that

434
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<v Speaker 3>point five meter resolution image. You cannot compromise on that.

435
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I need the sharp photo. That is my job,

436
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<v Speaker 2>non negotiable.

437
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<v Speaker 3>We have two main options to get it. Option A

438
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<v Speaker 3>you fly low.

439
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<v Speaker 2>The low option you get closer to the subject. Makes sense, right, If.

440
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<v Speaker 3>You are closer to the ground, say at three hundred

441
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<v Speaker 3>or four hundred kilometers altitude, you can use a smaller

442
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<v Speaker 3>camera to get a sharp image. Think about it, like

443
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<v Speaker 3>holding your phone camera close to a piece of paper.

444
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<v Speaker 3>You can see the details easily.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So smaller camera means.

446
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<v Speaker 3>A smaller satellite, a smaller lens, a smaller body, lighter

447
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<v Speaker 3>launch weight, cheaper.

448
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, benefit, clear picture, smaller satellite, cheaper launch. What is

449
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<v Speaker 2>the drawback? There's always a drawback.

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<v Speaker 3>The drawback is your field of view. Because you are

451
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<v Speaker 3>so close, you are only seeing a tiny patch of

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<v Speaker 3>the earth at any one moment.

453
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<v Speaker 2>It is like looking through a straw.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, you are looking through a straw at a giant

455
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<v Speaker 3>beach ball. You can see the details of one little

456
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<v Speaker 3>grain of sand, but you cannot see the whole beach ball.

457
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<v Speaker 3>So if you want to.

458
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<v Speaker 2>Cover the whole earth, you need a lot of straws.

459
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<v Speaker 3>You need a massive constellation of satellite to stitch it

460
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<v Speaker 3>all together, hundreds, maybe thousands of them.

461
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so low orbit means small satellites, but lots of

462
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<v Speaker 2>them a swarm. What is option B?

463
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<v Speaker 3>Option B you fly high, You go to a higher altitude,

464
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<v Speaker 3>say eight hundred and nine hundred.

465
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<v Speaker 2>Kilometers, so you are further away.

466
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<v Speaker 3>The benefit is you have a much wider field of view.

467
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<v Speaker 3>You are backing up from the painting, you'd see more

468
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<v Speaker 3>land at once.

469
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<v Speaker 2>Right, your straw just got wider.

470
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<v Speaker 3>It did. That means you need fewer satellites to cover

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<v Speaker 3>the globe.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds better. Fewer satellites means less traffic.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

474
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<v Speaker 2>That sounds like the responsible choice, you would think so.

475
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<v Speaker 3>But here is the kicker. Here's the trade off. To

476
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<v Speaker 3>get that same point five meter resolution, that same sharpness

477
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<v Speaker 3>from twice as far away, you cannot use a small

478
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<v Speaker 3>camera anymore. Physics bites back it does It is the

479
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<v Speaker 3>diffraction limit of light. To resolve that detail from nine

480
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<v Speaker 3>hundred kilometers, you need a massive telescope. You need a

481
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<v Speaker 3>large aperture to gather enough light and achieve that resolution.

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<v Speaker 2>We are talking hubble size, maybe.

483
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<v Speaker 3>Not hubble, but big. You need bigger mirrors, longer focal lengths,

484
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<v Speaker 3>and bigger optics means a bigger satellite body to hold it,

485
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<v Speaker 3>bigger solar panels to power it. Because it takes more

486
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<v Speaker 3>energy to transmit the data.

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<v Speaker 2>That far so high orbit means fewer satellites, but they

488
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<v Speaker 2>are giants. They are buses instead of motorcycle.

489
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<v Speaker 3>Correct significantly bigger, heavier. And this brings us to the

490
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<v Speaker 3>critical variable in the Manchester model cross section.

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<v Speaker 2>Cross section that is basically how big of a target

492
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<v Speaker 2>you are, how much area you present to the incoming traffic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, a larger satellite has a larger cross section, It

494
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<v Speaker 3>takes up more physical space in the void and in

495
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<v Speaker 3>a minefield of debris. Being big is a liability.

496
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<v Speaker 2>It is the difference between walking through a hailstorm holding

497
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<v Speaker 2>a dinner plate over your head versus holding a barn door.

498
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<v Speaker 3>The barn door is going to get hit. And remember

499
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<v Speaker 3>we aren't just worried about the satellite getting hit. We're

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<v Speaker 3>worried about the satellite becoming debris.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah. Yes, the aftermath.

502
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<v Speaker 3>If a five hundred kilogram satellite hits something, it creates

503
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<v Speaker 3>a massive cloud of shrapnel. If a five kilogram cube

504
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<v Speaker 3>sat gets hit. It is bad, but it's a much

505
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<v Speaker 3>smaller cloud.

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<v Speaker 2>This is starting to make sense. The model is balancing

507
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<v Speaker 2>the number of satellites against the size of the satellites,

508
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<v Speaker 2>against the altitude. It is a three dimensional balancing act.

509
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<v Speaker 3>And this is where the findings get really surprising, because

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<v Speaker 3>I think most people, myself included, would assume that the

511
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<v Speaker 3>most dangerous place to put a satellite is simply wherever

512
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<v Speaker 3>the most debris.

513
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<v Speaker 2>Is right avoid the trash. If there is a pile

514
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<v Speaker 2>in junk at eight hundred kilometers, don't fly at eight

515
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<v Speaker 2>hundred kilometers. That seems like common sense, like don't drive

516
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<v Speaker 2>into the pile up.

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<v Speaker 3>But the model reveals a counterintuitive truth. Collision risk does

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<v Speaker 3>not simply peak where debris is most concentrated.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, unpack that. How can that be true? If there

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<v Speaker 2>are more bullets, shouldn't there be more bullet holes.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's look at the case study they were in. They

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<v Speaker 3>modeled that satellite we talked about, the one designed for

523
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<v Speaker 3>er point five meter resolution, that ran the numbers for

524
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<v Speaker 3>different altitudes to see where the risk was highest.

525
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<v Speaker 2>And what did they find? Where's the danger zone?

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<v Speaker 3>The collision probability was highest between eight hundred and fifty

527
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<v Speaker 3>and nine hundred and fifty kilometers above Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight hundred and fifty to nine fifty Okay, is that

529
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<v Speaker 2>where the most debris is.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that is the fascinating part. The peak density of debris,

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<v Speaker 3>the thickest part of the trash cloud is actually about

532
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<v Speaker 3>fifty kilometers lower than that around eight hundred kilometers.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, so you were telling me that the satellites are

534
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<v Speaker 2>more likely to get hit in a region with less debris.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds impossible. My brain is not computing this.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds impossible until you factor in the size of

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<v Speaker 3>the satellite.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah.

539
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<v Speaker 3>Remember the high option to fly at eight hundred fifty

540
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<v Speaker 3>kilometers and still get that sharp picture, your satellite has

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<v Speaker 3>to be enormous. Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, even though the bullets are slightly fewer and further between,

543
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<v Speaker 2>the target is so much bigger that the math tips.

544
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<v Speaker 3>Against you precisely. Yeah, you move to a slightly quieter neighborhood,

545
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<v Speaker 3>but you built a house ten times the size, so

546
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<v Speaker 3>you are actually more likely to get hit by a

547
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<v Speaker 3>stray baseball than if you had stayed in the busy

548
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<v Speaker 3>neighborhood but lived in a tiny shack.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a massive aha moment. It changes everything. You

550
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<v Speaker 2>cannot just look at a debris map and say safe

551
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<v Speaker 2>for unsaved.

552
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<v Speaker 3>Oh, the debris map is only half the story.

553
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<v Speaker 2>You have to look at your own vehicle, your own

554
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<v Speaker 2>mission requirements dictate your vulnerability.

555
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<v Speaker 3>You have to look at the interaction. The sheer size

556
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<v Speaker 3>of those high altitude satellites makes them what the researchers

557
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<v Speaker 3>called debris magnets. They sweep up everything in their path

558
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<v Speaker 3>just by existing.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. So let's talk about the alternative. Then. If the

560
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<v Speaker 2>big high flying satellites are debris magnets, does that mean

561
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<v Speaker 2>the swarm of small, low flying ones is actually safer?

562
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<v Speaker 3>That is the constellation conundrum, and the model suggests counterintuitively, yes.

563
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<v Speaker 2>Walk me through that because earlier I said one hundred

564
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<v Speaker 2>thousand satellites sounds terrifying. How can more satellites be the

565
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<v Speaker 2>safer option? It just feels wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>It comes down to the physics of the impact and

567
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<v Speaker 3>the probability in lower orbits, say four hundred kilometers. Yes,

568
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<v Speaker 3>you need more satellites to cover the Earth because of

569
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<v Speaker 3>that looking through a straw.

570
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<v Speaker 2>Effect, right, many small straws.

571
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<v Speaker 3>But because they are close, they can be small. They

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<v Speaker 3>have small optics, small bodies, tiny targets, and because they

573
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<v Speaker 3>are tiny targets, the individual collision risk for each state

574
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<v Speaker 3>is much much lower, and this is crucial. If they

575
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<v Speaker 3>do collide, they create less debris because there is less

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<v Speaker 3>mass involved.

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<v Speaker 2>So even though there are more of them, the odds

578
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<v Speaker 2>of any single one of them causing a global disaster

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<v Speaker 2>are smaller and the consequences of a crash are less severe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the study found that despite there being more of them,

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<v Speaker 3>the smaller individual satellites are less hazardous in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>collision probability compared to the massive, high altitude targets.

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<v Speaker 2>That is fascinating. It is a total flip of the script.

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<v Speaker 2>We usually think less is more when it comes to sustainability,

585
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<v Speaker 2>but here more but smaller might be the responsible choice.

586
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<v Speaker 3>It allows designers to evaluate trade offs in a nuanced way.

587
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<v Speaker 3>It is not just about data quality anymore. It is

588
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<v Speaker 3>about balancing data quality with protecting the orbital environment.

589
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<v Speaker 2>So an engineer can I go to their boss and say, look,

590
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<v Speaker 2>I know you want to launch just ten satellites for

591
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<v Speaker 2>this mission because it's cheaper to operate. But the model

592
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<v Speaker 2>shows if we launch one hundred smaller ones at a

593
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<v Speaker 2>lower altitude, the long term risk to the space environment

594
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<v Speaker 2>drops by eighty percent.

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<v Speaker 3>That is exactly the conversation this tool enables. It proves

596
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<v Speaker 3>that you cannot just optimize for one variable. You have

597
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<v Speaker 3>to optimize the whole system for sustainability.

598
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<v Speaker 2>And this brings us back to the voices behind the study.

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<v Speaker 2>What are they saying about the implications of this, because

600
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<v Speaker 2>this sounds like it should be mandatory reading for everyone

601
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<v Speaker 2>at NASA and SpaceX, and well every space agency and

602
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<v Speaker 2>company on Earth.

603
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<v Speaker 3>It really should be. Doctor c R McGrath, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the co authors, really emphasize the practicality of this. She said,

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<v Speaker 3>this method offers a practical way to ensure space remains

606
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<v Speaker 3>safe and usable for generations.

607
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<v Speaker 2>That word practical is key. This isn't just theoretical physics.

608
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<v Speaker 2>This isn't just an academic paper to sit on a shelf.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a tool engineers can use tomorrow exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a dashboard. You can slide the dial on resolution

611
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<v Speaker 3>and see the risk needle go up or down. You

612
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<v Speaker 3>can change the altitude and watch the constellation size and

613
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<v Speaker 3>satellite mass numbers change in real time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's powerful.

615
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<v Speaker 3>It allows us to still get the data we need

616
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<v Speaker 3>for those global challenges climate food disasters without sacrificing the

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<v Speaker 3>future of space exploration. It gives us a path to

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<v Speaker 3>have our cake and eat.

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<v Speaker 2>It too, and Professor Catherine Smith pointed out that this

620
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<v Speaker 2>isn't just for one type of satellite, right, It's adaptable right.

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<v Speaker 3>She noted that the method can be adapted for different

622
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<v Speaker 3>Earth observation systems, whether you were using optical cameras like

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<v Speaker 3>we've been discussing, or something like synthetic aperture RADARSAR which

624
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<v Speaker 3>can see through clouds.

625
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<v Speaker 2>Which is critical for monitoring places that are always cloudy,

626
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<v Speaker 2>like the tropics or the Pole exactly.

627
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<v Speaker 3>The logic still holds you can plug in your variables

628
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:39.599
<v Speaker 3>and see where your risks are. It's a universal toolkit

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<v Speaker 3>for sustainable design.

630
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<v Speaker 2>So what is next for this model? Is it finished

631
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<v Speaker 2>or is this just version one point zero?

632
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<v Speaker 3>Science is never finished. This is definitely version one point zero.

633
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<v Speaker 3>The Gene plans to expand the model to include even

634
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<v Speaker 3>more detailed impacts. For example, they want to look at

635
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<v Speaker 3>how long debrief fragments.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay in orbit, because that changes based on altitude drastically.

637
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<v Speaker 3>If you are low at four hundred kilometers, there's still

638
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<v Speaker 3>a tiny bit of atmosphere. That atmospheric drag pulls the

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<v Speaker 3>debris down quickly. It deorbits and burns up in a

640
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<v Speaker 3>few years.

641
00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:12.720
<v Speaker 2>So it's self cleaning to a degree.

642
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<v Speaker 3>It is, but if you are high up at that

643
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<v Speaker 3>nine hundred kilometer danger zone, there is basically no drag.

644
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<v Speaker 3>That debris can stay there for centuries millennia.

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<v Speaker 2>Even so, a crash at nine hundred kilometers is a

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<v Speaker 2>permanent scar. A crash at four hundred kilometers is a

647
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<v Speaker 2>temporary scratch.

648
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<v Speaker 3>That is a perfect way to put it. And they

649
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<v Speaker 3>want to model the domino effect, how likely fragments from

650
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<v Speaker 3>one collision are to hit other satellites.

651
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<v Speaker 2>The nightmare Kessler syndrome scenario exactly.

652
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<v Speaker 3>To model how a single bad day could cascade through

653
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<v Speaker 3>entire constellation. And they also want to look at the

654
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<v Speaker 3>wider environmental effects of satellite re entry re.

655
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<v Speaker 2>Entry, that is, when they burn up in the atmosphere

656
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<v Speaker 2>at the end of their life.

657
00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:48.319
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and that is a whole other can of worms.

658
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<v Speaker 2>We will get to that in a minute. I have

659
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<v Speaker 2>questions about that, but sticking to the model for now.

660
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<v Speaker 2>The ultimate goal here seems to be giving mission designers

661
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<v Speaker 2>the full sustainability picture It is.

662
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:02.400
<v Speaker 3>About moving from a wild wat mentality of space exploration

663
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<v Speaker 3>where you just launch whatever you want wherever you want

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<v Speaker 3>to responsible stewardship.

665
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:09.799
<v Speaker 2>Responsible stewardship. I like that. It feels like we are

666
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<v Speaker 2>finally growing up as a spacefaring civilization. We are realizing

667
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 2>that we cannot just trash the place and move on.

668
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:20.599
<v Speaker 3>We have to manage the comments. Space is a shared resource.

669
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<v Speaker 3>If one company pollutes an orbit, everyone suffers. This model

670
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<v Speaker 3>gives us the math to prevent that.

671
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I want to circle back to something we touched on earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>The sheer scale of this one hundred thousand satellites, even

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<v Speaker 2>with this model, even if we design them perfectly, that

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<v Speaker 2>is a lot of traffic.

675
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<v Speaker 3>It is, and this model doesn't solve the crowding issue entirely.

676
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<v Speaker 3>It just helps us mitigate the risk of catastrophic collisions.

677
00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:46.319
<v Speaker 2>It's a risk reduction tool, not a magic wand.

678
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, we still have to manage the traffic management aspect.

679
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<v Speaker 3>We need better tracking of every object, better communication between operators,

680
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<v Speaker 3>maybe even internationally agreed upon slots for orbits like we

681
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<v Speaker 3>have for airport gates.

682
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<v Speaker 2>It is like having a safer cars on the road,

683
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<v Speaker 2>which is great, but you still have.

684
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<v Speaker 3>A traffic gem exactly, but at least the cars aren't

685
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<v Speaker 3>exploding as often.

686
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<v Speaker 2>That is a start. So let's synthesize what we have

687
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<v Speaker 2>learned today, because this has been a journey from the

688
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<v Speaker 2>night sky to the physics lab.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's break it down first.

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<v Speaker 2>The context, we are heading toward a world with one

691
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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand active satellites. That is happening. The train has

692
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:25.359
<v Speaker 2>left the station.

693
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:29.599
<v Speaker 3>And we identify the space sustainability paradox. We are launching

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<v Speaker 3>these machines to solve problems on Earth, critical problems like

695
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<v Speaker 3>climate change and hunger, but the act of launching them

696
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<v Speaker 3>creates a new environmental disaster in space.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we looked at the Manchester research. They proved that

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<v Speaker 2>the old way of designing satellites mission first, safety later

699
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<v Speaker 2>is broken. It's fundamentally flawed. You have to do them together, and.

700
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<v Speaker 3>We unpack the iron triangle. We learn that to get

701
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:55.359
<v Speaker 3>high resolution images you either have to fly low with

702
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:58.079
<v Speaker 3>lots of small satellites or fly high with a few

703
00:31:58.119 --> 00:32:01.559
<v Speaker 3>giant ones. There is no magic cheat code.

704
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:04.960
<v Speaker 2>And the counterintuitive finding the real mind vendor. Flying high

705
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:09.039
<v Speaker 2>seems safer because there is slightly less debris, but because

706
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<v Speaker 2>your satellite has to be the size of a bus

707
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:14.039
<v Speaker 2>to take a picture, you are actually a bigger target.

708
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<v Speaker 3>So surprisingly, a constellation of many small satellites in a lower,

709
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.759
<v Speaker 3>busier orbit might actually be the safer, more responsible choice

710
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<v Speaker 3>for the orbital environment.

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<v Speaker 2>It really challenges your assumptions. I think that is the

712
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<v Speaker 2>mark of good science. It makes you look at a

713
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<v Speaker 2>problem and realize the obvious answer was wrong, and.

714
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<v Speaker 3>It gives engineers a tool to make better choices. That

715
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<v Speaker 3>is the most important part. This isn't just philosophy, it

716
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:40.000
<v Speaker 3>is engineering. It's a practical solution.

717
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<v Speaker 2>Now, before we let you go, you mentioned something earlier

718
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<v Speaker 2>that I want to end on. It's been nagging at me.

719
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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned satellite re entry as the next frontier for

720
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<v Speaker 2>this model.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this is the final provocative thought I want to

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<v Speaker 3>leave with you and with everyone listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Late on us.

724
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<v Speaker 3>We spent this whole time talking about collisions in space,

725
00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:01.200
<v Speaker 3>metal hitting metal debris fields. That is the physical danger.

726
00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:04.240
<v Speaker 3>But what happens when these satellites die, all one hundred

727
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<v Speaker 3>thousand of them.

728
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<v Speaker 2>Eventually they deorbit, they fall back to Earth. We design

729
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<v Speaker 2>them to burn up so they don't hit someone's house.

730
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Right, We view burn up as the safe option. It

731
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<v Speaker 3>burns up, it is gone. But physics tells us matter

732
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<v Speaker 3>doesn't just disappear.

733
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Conservation of mass exactly.

734
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:23.839
<v Speaker 3>Burn up implies it vanishes. It doesn't. It turns into vapor,

735
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<v Speaker 3>It turns into dust. It turns into tiny metallic aerosols.

736
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<v Speaker 3>The metal vapor, aluminum, titanium, lithium, from the batteries, composite materials,

737
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<v Speaker 3>All of that one hundred thousand satellites are worth of metal.

738
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<v Speaker 3>Eventually it all rains back down into our upper atmosphere.

739
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<v Speaker 2>So we are essentially salting the atmosphere with metal dust.

740
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:44.400
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, We are changing the chemical composition of the stratosphere,

741
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:45.920
<v Speaker 3>and we don't fully know what that does yet.

742
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<v Speaker 2>That's a terrifying thought.

743
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<v Speaker 3>Does it affect the ozone layer? Some studies suggest aluminum

744
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:55.160
<v Speaker 3>oxides can act as catalysts that deplete ozone. Does it

745
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<v Speaker 3>change the albedo of the earth. Does it create more

746
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:01.519
<v Speaker 3>clouds or different kinds of clouds? Does it reflect sunlight

747
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:04.920
<v Speaker 3>or trap heat? Does it affect the climate, So.

748
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:08.440
<v Speaker 2>The sustainability paradox might go even deeper. We launch satellites

749
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:11.719
<v Speaker 2>to monitor climate change, and when they die, their dust

750
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:14.239
<v Speaker 2>might accelerate climate change.

751
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:16.960
<v Speaker 3>That is the next great unknown, That is the environmental

752
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:19.480
<v Speaker 3>effect of satellite re entry, and that is why the

753
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 3>Manchester team wants to add it to their model, because

754
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<v Speaker 3>true sustainability means looking at the entire life cycle from

755
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:29.079
<v Speaker 3>the launch pad to the orbit to the burn up.

756
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:32.639
<v Speaker 2>That is heavy, but it is important. It means we

757
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:34.960
<v Speaker 2>have to keep asking questions. We cannot just pat ourselves

758
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.519
<v Speaker 2>on the back for solving the collision problem and ignore

759
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:38.599
<v Speaker 2>the pollution problem.

760
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:40.719
<v Speaker 3>Precisely, there's always another layer to the onion.

761
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<v Speaker 2>Well, on that cheerful but necessary note, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>wrap up today's exploration. I want to thank you for listening.

763
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<v Speaker 3>It has been a pleasure to analyze this with you.

764
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<v Speaker 2>Next time you are outside at night, look up, try

765
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<v Speaker 2>to spot a satellite. It is actually pretty easy these days.

766
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<v Speaker 2>And when you see that little dot moving across the stars,

767
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<v Speaker 2>remember there is it's a massive amount of math, physics,

768
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<v Speaker 2>and now hopefully some very smart sustainability modeling keeping it

769
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<v Speaker 2>from crashing into its neighbor.

770
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<v Speaker 3>Let's hope.

771
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<v Speaker 2>So the sky is busier than it looks, but with

772
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<v Speaker 2>tools like this, maybe we can keep it organized. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for joining us on this analysis. Stay curious and keep

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<v Speaker 2>looking up the passa
