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Speaker 4: Go welcome back off the bench.
Speaker 5: What is it? Third hour here? Starting it up?
Speaker 4: Yes, continue coming.
Speaker 5: Everyone's mic is off for some reason.
Speaker 4: Oh mine's off too.
Speaker 5: Wish.
Speaker 6: I don't wish if I say, okay, is back. I
was like, yeah, I'm gonna bring us back here and
Landra have a mic off.
Speaker 7: I don't have headphones on. I'm trying to make a call,
so I don't know.
Speaker 8: Yeah, she's busy, she's work doing stuff. We're catching Roddy.
We're gonna have Roddy on video. He ended up having
to do a couple of things. But it's okay. We're
gonna have Roddy Jones ESPN play the Georgia Tech baseball
and football at Georgia Tech. Always a pleasure to have
my guy on the show. Mister Roddy Jones. What is
going on, sir?
Speaker 5: What's up?
Speaker 9: Man?
Speaker 3: It's good to talk to you, Jake, and uh just
the first time I been on the show since MAT's
been here. Congrats on the on the new you, on
the new setup. I'm excited to excited chat with you guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he says first cuss word today on air, so you.
Speaker 5: Know we're off to you know, birthday today.
Speaker 8: It's a ride of passage, you know, Roddy like you
and I, we we get away with a lot on
serious XCM, but when you do local radio, everybody has
that moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it's I was told when I first
got into business you can say anything on air once.
Depending on what you say what determined whether or not
you get a chance to say it again.
Speaker 4: That's actually a great line.
Speaker 6: I think they really just told me like I made
too much of it. They should have slept on the run,
just stept going. But yeah, we kind of made it
a thing for like five more.
Speaker 3: Minutes as it should be. You know, it's like the
locker room. You make a small mistakes.
Speaker 4: And that's all right, no doubt. Right.
Speaker 8: I certainly want to talk acc football, but look, you
played college baseball. You and I, when we do shows together,
we're going to find a way to talk some college baseball.
This is the first chance that you and I have
had the opportunity to catch up since LSU won the
national championship. Man, what did you think about the Tigers
run through Omaha, maybe just the postseason in general?
Speaker 3: Well, I thought, first off, I want to start with
LSU because I feel like all the talk after the
championship series was about Kevin Schnall getting ejected and just
the entire spectacle around that. So let's start with LSU
and what Jay Johnson has built and what Jay Johnson
has done over the course of his career obviously at
Arizona and made it LSU establishing the best baseball program
or maybe continuing the best baseball program in the country
national championships to in the last three years. And I
do think it's a legitimate conversation on whether or not
LSU is the greatest baseball program in the history of
college baseball. We've Ben Hartstock and I had that discussion,
and certainly USC is in the running for all the
championships that they have twelve of them. Texas is in
the running for all the College World Series appearances they
have far and away more than anybody else. But I
think LSU is the one that I would take because
of the success since what was the first one nineteen
ninety one, I mean eight championships. Since then, you've got
the eight out of nine times you get to the
championship series you win. It. Just the consistency that's been
built down there, I think I would go with LSU.
Maybe it's recency biased, but Texas is the one that's
that's in the conversation right now. To me, with la
USC has to establish some sort of relevance in this
era of the portal where it's so much tougher to
win than it was in the sixties and seventies when
they were dominating.
Speaker 8: And that's what I was going to say, not only
because of the portal, Roddy, but I think it is
LSU because of the teams and the programs that care
now about college basketball compared to what it used to be.
And I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but it used
to be very regional. It was like in the southeast
and then in southern California, and that's like the only
people that really cared about college baseball. And you go
back and you look thirty thirty five years ago, like
cal State Fullerton and Long Beach State. Like all these
small programs certainly had their time, but like now everybody
seems to care. Like every major conference cares, the ACC,
the SEC, the Big Twelve, even the Big Ten now
with the additions that they made, like they care a lot.
The Sun Belt certainly cares a lot about college baseball.
So for me, like with the time and the effort
and the resources that everybody's now putting into college baseball,
that's what makes LSU's runs, what they've done in the
last what you know, thirty thirty five years, that much
more impressive compared to even like USC who had done
it in a long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree, man. And then you even factor
in this stuff with like the way the draft is structured,
the fact that that not only like if you went
back twenty years, the best players out of high school
typically win. Now the best players out of high school,
the very best go, but that next year are really
coming to college, especially at the picture, especially pictures because
of the development that you're getting at the college level,
which is on par and even sometimes better than what
you get in the minors. Because of the attention and
the resources that these colleges have so so with that
level of talent spread across the country, it's so much
tougher to be as consistent as LSU has been, especially
at that conference through I mean, the SEC is an
absolute bear and they and they've done a great job
at it. So I'm with you. I'm the MLSU here,
all right.
Speaker 6: Right, we're at that time of the summer where we're
kind of like transitioning. Is transition our focus from baseball
to football, So let's do that right now. So something
that's great interest to our listeners here in the SEC is,
of course the Clemson Tigers. So first game the season
for LSU, a huge matchup defending ACC champs. Kid Klubnick
is returning his top three receivers. I kind of want
to hear your thoughts, just a breakdown, just an overview
of Cad, the offense, and their team in general, just
to kind of start introducing our fan base to Clemson.
Speaker 3: It's a loaded Clemson team. It's the best Clemson team
on paper that Dabos Sweeney has had since Trevor Lawrence
is last year at Clemson. It is a Clemson team
with the most expectations since probably Trevor sophomore year at
Clemson twenty nineteen, which is the year after they won
the national championships. So it is an absolutely loaded unit.
It starts with kid club Nick, who's been his third
years the full time starter, started some as freshman year
as well, won an ACC championship game. As a matter
of fact, coming in for dj Ulli Angloway and his
maturity is the amount that he's matured over the course
of his career has been incredible. Man. He's gotten so
much more comfortable in Garrett Riley's system, which this will
be his third year in that system, and he got
so much better throwing the deep ball and in a
quarterback run game last year that I think he's poised
for a big time season. You mentioned the weapons at
receiver Bryant Westco, Antonio Williams, TJ. Moore, and then they
return They returned a receiver a couple who a couple
of years ago was their leading receiver when Antonio Williams
was out. So when you look at at the receiving core,
it says good. Maybe not at the top end as
like in Ohio State or in Alabama, but it is
as talented as any of those from top to bottom.
I saw some projections ahead Antonio Williams as the number
one receiver in this class, you know upcoming, don't. I
wouldn't quite go there. He's a slot guy, but he
is incredible at the point of it time or at
the catch point, and he's a really good and smooth,
explosive receiver. And then on defense, all they have is
the guy who's projected to be the first defensive end
of off the board in next year's draft, the guy
who's projected to be the first defensive tackle off the
board in next year's draft. A linebacker corp that's got
a butting star and Sammy Brown, an NFL corner in
Avion Torell, and a future avon corn in Nashton Hampton.
So it is a loaded team with a new defensive
coordinator and Tom Allen, third year offensive coordinator, and Garrett Riley.
And they really should run through the acc We'll see
they got to do it. They've got some holes. Safety
running back would be the two that I would point to.
But it's a really talented team and it'll be fascinating
to see how LSU deals with that front. With all
that LSU is replacing on the offensive line.
Speaker 8: And obviously when you have a matchup like this, and
I agree with everything you said. I mean, certainly Clemson
has some strong points in the front seven, the receiver,
and you know, different positions. You can kind of go
and you can highlight players. But is it all going
to come down to Kate club Nick versus Garrett Nessmeyer.
I mean it really feels like that. I mean, no
matter where you look, Roddy, it's like those are one
and two, and it's been different orders in different kind
of polls, in different ratings and different rankings, whatever it
might be. But for the most part, when you look,
it is nuss Meyer and club Nick in some kind
of order there. It just feels like it is going
to be which quarterback makes the play and which one
has the mistake.
Speaker 3: I do think that that will be a big part
of it. Man, Like the one who plays mistake free
football is putting their team in a position to win.
I do think LSU has the advantage at the running
back position for sure, with Kateen Durham, who's a butting star.
We saw him against Arkansas, which is probably a breakout
game last year, and Clemson just doesn't have that at
the running back position. They're going to rely on a
sort of a committee approach. We'll see if they're second
wing your rusher. Last year, Jay Haynes got towards a
cl in the championship game, I believe the conference championship game.
So we'll see if he's back. But it's gonna be
an inexperienced group. The the fact that LSU has a
Caden Durham to help out Garrett Asmeyer. Not that he
needs it, but I think it can take some pressure
off of that offensive line who's going to have a
time blocking Peter Woods and TJ. Parker. So I think
that that Kate Klubnick is going to have more pressure
on him. I think he's going to have to do
more with his legs. I think he's gonna have to
be more of a running threat throughout the season, but
certainly in that first game against an LSD defense that
that should be improved from a here ago.
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's take a little bit wider view. At the ACC.
You said that you thought, you know, Clinton has a
lot of expectations. They should kind of run through the ACC.
Now over here, we're kind of we're hester now we're
big fans of Georgia Tech and Haines King's a good
hard knows East Texas boys on the meatad team Robett
I love it and they so they play the third
week September thirteenth. They match up Clemson Georgia Tech. I
wish that game was kind of pushed more towards the
end of the year. But is there anybody in the
ACC that you see pushing Clemson.
Speaker 5: It might have a chance to overthrow.
Speaker 3: Them on a whole of the season. No, Clemson should
be the most talented team by a good margin unless
Miami has things come together. I think talent wise, you
can look at Miami with Carson Beck coming over at
the quarterback position and say, okay, I can convince myself
that they'll be in the running. They just lose a
ton at receiver and then that defense was not good
last year. They have to retool the secondary. So I
think that Miami is probably the one from a talent standpoint. Now,
look George Tech. They've been big game hunters since Brent
Key has been the head coach there. They have a
winning record against ranked teams and ACC play. I obviously
played Georgia really close last year, eight overtimes, probably should
have won that game if the referees knew what targeting was.
But that tither here nor there. But ultimately, like, this
is a Georgia Tech team that is going to be
dangerous weekend out. Haines King is really really talented and
really confident. Uh, you got Jamal Haynes at the running
back position who's in his third year as a starter
after switching over from receiver. Defense, loses Tyler Santucci, They're
going to have to create more pressure on the quarterback.
We'll see if they're able to do that. Losing Romelo Height.
Speaker 5: Was a big one.
Speaker 3: But I think this is a team that is not
going to shy away from anybody. So I'm excited about
the Jackets this year. Cautiously optimistic.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: I don't want to hype him up two much and
get everybody talking to talking about him and patting him
on the back. I want everybody telling them how they're
not going to win six games this year and have
that chip on our shoulder.
Speaker 8: Well, they always say like a team takes the identity
of their head coach, and if that is the case
there for Georgia Tech, we know one thing they're going
to be gritty as hell with Brinkey.
Speaker 4: Being their head coach.
Speaker 8: Like, I like, if I interview him, roddy, I'm like,
is he going to try to tackle me here in
the next like five minutes because he has that look
to him.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Usually usually he does tackle me before we do any
sport of a meeting or interview, like it will put
me at a headlock and give me a nod before
I try and coop him up sweep the leg. But
he is he is a guy who is literally too
gritty to be pretty. I mean, he's he burned all
He wore a tie the first ACC media day he
went to, has not won a tie since, Like he
says he burned all of them. I don't believe that,
but I do believe that he gave him all the way.
But he is a hard nosed, uh demanding players coach.
If there's a such thing as all of those things,
because he obviously he's been in those guys shoes. He
loves Georgia Tech. He was a captain there in the
late nineties with Joe Hamilton at quarterback. It means a
lot to him, and he's done a great job of
assembling an incredible staff. I mean Buster Faulkner. Nobody knew
who Buster Faulkner was when they plucked him from being
a quality control assistant on the offensive side of the
ball from Georgia of all places. He becomes the offensive
coordinator at Georgia Tech. He just has done a phenomenal job,
especially with that run game, but with the entire offense,
making Georgia Tech one of the most difficult offenses to
prepare for with everything that they do pre snap. And
then he Jeep Wade at the offensive line position, has
done a really nice job continuing where Brent Key left off.
Tyler Santuccu is a great hire last year, and now
we got one of your boys, Blake Gideon's right comes
over from Texas City to be the defensive coordinator. So
I'm really excited to see what he's going to bring.
But you are right, the Georgia Tech team really embodies
what Brent Key is all about, and honestly, it was
a necessary change after the Jeff Collins era.
Speaker 4: All right, there, he is our guy, Roddy Jones.
Speaker 8: You'll catch him on ESPN also my colleague over a
serious XM.
Speaker 4: He does it all, Roddy.
Speaker 8: We truly appreciate the time as always, sir, and look
forward to as we get closer.
Speaker 4: Continuing to talk about this Clemson Lshue matchup.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, thanks boys, it's a.
Speaker 8: Never thinking as he's talking, like how talented do you
have to be to play college baseball and also college football?
Speaker 4: And like do it where you don't suck?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you gotta be real talented. We haven't seen it
a whole lot right here.
Speaker 8: Like, well, actually, I mean I got the time of
all places to be spoiled by guys that can do it.
I guess it would be Chad Jones Jared Mitchell to
do it at that like Chris jack incredibly high level.
Then Chris Jackson kickers are people too, right, It was
starting third basement for that team, but for Chad, like
Chad Jones and Jared Mitchell, like j Mitch was a
freshman and played receiver that year and then also in
two thousand and nine into being the most outstanding player
in the College World Series. But like like Chad Jones
was a dude at like on both at safety he's playing.
Was he a freshman when he was playing with Like Yeah,
so he was a freshman in OH seven with you all,
and he's like out there on a national championship team.
And then we were talking about returners yesterday in the NFL.
It was a chalsy hell. We had trendon Holiday Buster,
Davis Skyler Green, Chad Jones, Honey Badger wasn't bad at
returning either, pretty good.
Speaker 4: Pat Pete.
Speaker 8: They never let me. I wasn't allowed to return it.
I could catch it. I wasn't allowed if you catch
that fair.
Speaker 5: Catch, don't you dare?
Speaker 8: We do not need those little stubby legs trying to
return this football.
Speaker 4: All right, But shout out to Roddy Man.
Speaker 8: Always enjoy catching up with Roddy And great breakdown there
of Clemson, and yeah, it is what it is.
Speaker 4: Look, they are really really good.
Speaker 8: Their front seven is going to be, in my opinion,
the strength of the team. Now, a lot of people
are high on their receivers. I think they're talented, but
I think a lot of people are assuming they're going
to take this giant step based off that talent.
Speaker 4: That's easier said than done.
Speaker 8: You still got to go do that, Like I can
see it and I can get excited. But that jump
that people always talk about and always happened there's things
that you like. When you have that expectation, you got
to you got to deal with it. You got to
continue to grow, you got to continue to develop.
Speaker 6: So and let's be honest, both teams are dealing with
a lot of expectations going into this and I know
a lot's being made of and we've talked a lot
about it here about that first game. How do you
schedule that first game we've had We all know we
got a lot of scar tissue from this opening game.
Speaker 5: The last couple of years.
Speaker 6: And what I'm about to say is not going to
help this any But I think this Clemson team that
we're about to face is the best team that we've
played in an opening game in the last of the
group of what we played.
Speaker 4: That Florida State team that went undefeated.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I was kind of skipped over that one.
Speaker 4: Pretty good.
Speaker 5: They're pretty good.
Speaker 8: But to your point, this, this Clemson team has that
ability based off their schedule.
Speaker 4: If they beat LSUDA, the.
Speaker 6: State didn't have like the preseason expectations. I think they
I mean, they were good, they're good not to but
this is one of the high favorite three top return.
Speaker 9: This is a true road game. Yeah, away, but it
was in Tampa.
Speaker 4: This is not I'm agreeing with me.
Speaker 8: I think this is the best team that you're playing
because you go back and that Mississippi State team ended
up not being that great obviously, you just you didn't
make adjustments and you let someone set an SEC record.
Speaker 4: They got benched two weeks later at quarterback. You go
to u C. L A.
Speaker 8: Now that UCLA team was was better than people thought.
They had, dtr quarterback, Zach charbona running back, NFL tied
end like they had some jimmies.
Speaker 6: And Joe's still Yeah, Florida State teams solid.
Speaker 8: USC was bad last year. US was not a good
football team, and you lost to them. So what makes
it even deeper of a cut to the gut is
the teams you've lost to for the most part have
been okay.
Speaker 6: Except the exception would be the foidest thing. Yeah, and Taylor,
great point. I mean, this is the true road game,
absolute hostile environment.
Speaker 9: If only had one other.
Speaker 8: Missipi State was at home during COVID, but so it
was kind of a weird Ucla.
Speaker 5: The like away.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they don't give a.
Speaker 8: As I'm saying, Ucla, you had more fans than they
had probably minus to probably.
Speaker 4: Uh and then New Orleans, Orlando and then Vegas.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be an sec type environment. I mean, let's
do it.
Speaker 8: Look, you've actually had some advantages and you still haven't
gotten it done. But that's why this is as must
win as must win can possibly be. And I know
you can still make the playoff if you lose this.
Speaker 4: Game, but you can't. You can't do that anymore.
Speaker 8: You can't just continue to start on one and then say, okay,
let's get started. It's like when we have an opening
segment and then we get the show started, right. We
can do that here. You can't do that in real
life in football. We're gonna win the game, though, that's
a guarantee.
Speaker 7: I definitely think it's a must win, but I don't
know how much I love putting so much stock into
it in the off season, like how oh they have
stuff that's like one in oh, in the locker room.
Speaker 8: I understand what they're finally, because they've tried to hide
I think from that game in the past, because I'm
typically like you too, like they't make it all about
one game. I think they're trying to do something different
than they've done.
Speaker 9: What whatever you did the last four years, don't do
it again.
Speaker 8: Because I typically would agree with you Landra, like, don't
make it all about the opening game and focus on
this solely like one.
Speaker 4: Part of it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because then if we go and lose the next game,
you put way too much stock into the opening game.
And I definitely agree that something needs to change and
we do need to win this opening game. But to me,
it feels like a lot of times when the way
Brian Kelly moves, I feel like he pays attention to
the outside noise a little too much, like he's like, Okay,
everybody's saying we need and one hundred percent you need
to win the opening game. I don't know if I
love making making the offseason all about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the.
Speaker 6: You kind of have to take a different approach to
something if some's not working. Is there mathematically there shouldn't be,
but I know how like the COVID year, there was
some extra eligibility. But is there someone on the roster
that has won an opening game?
Speaker 4: No, Josh Williams I think was the last one.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Josh, nobody l roster that knows what it's like
to when now. I mean I can't speak for all
the transfers.
Speaker 5: We have to go back.
Speaker 8: Yeah to your point, like an l uniform. Yeah no,
that's wild. That is not wild behavior.
Speaker 5: Wild behavior. Come on, boys, all right, we.
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Speaker 4: Welcome back again, uh Elandra.
Speaker 8: I do want to hear your thoughts on why you
don't want to make it because I'm I'm in a
bad habit right now of just being like whatever you did,
just do the opposite, Go win a game, go find
a way.
Speaker 4: But I do want to hear your point on why
you don't like the one.
Speaker 7: And oh around in the lockerow so like I don't
disagree with that, like obviously what you've been doing the
last few years is not working because you've lost every
single opening game. Like I I agree and I understand
with what you are saying, but to like for me,
if you're already unprepared without doing all that extra stuff
of like one and oh start one and oh, like
and putting so much stock into the opening game, that's
already a bigger issue than like having to focus on
one game specifically, Like you need to be prepared for
the entire season, not just the opening game. And then
I feel like you also set yourself for even more
disappointment if you go out there and you end up
losing the opening game again and you have one to
zero all over the building and you're talking to your team, Yeah,
and you're talking to your team and like putting so
much stock into it. Yeah, like you're setting yourself for
even bigger disappointment. But then say, like, okay, it works,
you win game one, and then the rest of the
season it's kind of mediocre, you fall off or whatever.
I just think that there's like a lot of different
possibilities and I just don't love focusing on like one game, right,
You're putting so much stock into it, and like sure,
I'm sure he's like focusing on the rest of the
season and stuff like that, but like I just personally
don't like it. And I don't think that your issue
is not talking about the opening game.
Speaker 8: No, I know what you're saying about the Yeah, for sure,
And I get it's a good point. And if you
do start ohing one, I want to no messages across
the locker like oh what do we do with these?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 8: And I think what you're trying to say and if
I'm if I'm wrong here, just tell me. But it
feels like you're saying kind of like what a lot
of us are thinking about this game, like be more prepared. Yeah,
just be prepared, like because you're supposed to be just
be prepared for the first game.
Speaker 7: Don't have to worry about it, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Do what you would do to get ready for the season,
you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but there's always focal points in the off season,
so you got to be able to focus focus onthing.
It's like, you know, putting when Rocky puts von Drago's
picture on his mirror, right, Like you got to be
able to like like yeah, but to your point, Like
most off season, it was like, you know, week one
of summer training, we're gonna get you know, this is
we're gonna focus on. We're gonna beat Auburn the week
next week, we're gonna be Florida this week, Yeah, next week.
You know, every season was a little bit different, but but.
Speaker 7: Like week by week, okay, fine, like.
Speaker 9: Game one does make it a little different, just like
you get like to your point, like like I'm with
you one hundred percent because like me and Lander have
talked about it before.
Speaker 4: If like I'm falling back into Elandra thinking here, well.
Speaker 9: We and her have always talked about it. Like lu
puts way more stuff, way too much stock in the
Alabama game every single week. The only thing I'm looking
at is, yes, this team is grossly underprepared every single year. Like, look,
I'm not here to bash anybody. Brian Kelly knows more
about football than I ever will. I mean, we we
came in here, like Jake, I went to what two
practices like, oh dude, though line wasn't able to block anything.
Kelly gets up there, Will Campbell gets up there. Gods,
we're gonna dominate people in the offensive line. Ah, no,
the hell, you're not. What happened game one two years ago,
Mason Smith. Kelly goes up there. We expect big things
from Mason Smith. T Bough goes Taylor else Mason Smith
looking like it's hard to tell he takes off every
other play because he's still injured. What happened, Mason Smith
was a shell of himself, Like, you gotta know your
team better. Whatever you did in the past, don't do it.
That is the only reason I'm okay with it, because
you've been awful and like if this was game, if
this was week nine, yes, sure it's just another game,
but like you're oh and five, you have to do
something different. Like that is the only reason I'm good
with it, because you're gonna show up and embarrass yourself
again on national TV and that takes that deflates everything.
Like to her point about you don't want to have
too much build up in the opening game because when
you lose like you have the last five years, you're deflated.
There was so much build up for.
Speaker 4: Game one I have never heard.
Speaker 8: I have never dreaded doing a sports radio show more
than Las Vegas last year after losing another opener. It
was early as hell because we were on mountain time,
the game was late. I was like, I don't want
to go do that. I want to fake sick.
Speaker 7: Vegas is terrible, But that's what I'm saying, Like, imagine
how disappointing. It's gonna be if you lose game one
versus cleansingin I do want to know in the locker room,
and I do like understand that you can definitely like, Okay,
this is week one, We're gonna focus on this whatever,
and then you can go to week two and focus
on law tech. I get that, but it just feels
like too much to me personally. So I do like
I get Taylor's points.
Speaker 8: Well, no, I kind of agree with a little bit
of everything because I do like, Okay, hey man, we
look we got a Power four opponent like Rod the Gates, Like,
we ain't got time to half step into this off season,
and that'd be your point of focus, like we got
to hit the ground running. And but also like when
we were playing at Elis, she was like when we
were getting run into the dirt in the off season,
it was to callous ourselves for the entire season, right,
we were training to be LSU Tigers. As cheesy as
that sounds, that was the standard, Like we are training
to be what we know we always have been here
and that's how maffittt trained us in the off season.
It's what the coaches kind of did even though they
weren't supposed to be there, they were there, Like that's
what we trained to be the Elstree Tigers, not for
one singular game. So I do get a little bit
of both points. But also we didn't lose five openers
in a row.
Speaker 9: So and then like the thing is, like y'all talked
about this last week and everybody brings it up about oh, well,
who do you do you want an easy game in
the open or do you want a tough game in
the opener? Like if you don't want to put too
much focus on everything, Like yeah, but like you got
a big opponent in the opener, change change that a
little bit if you need to as well, Like whatever,
whatever you need to do. What's the's got to be different.
The football messaging throughout a season is don't look ahead.
It's the most important game is the next game, right,
and whether whatever your record is, if you're five and two,
it's let's become six and two, right.
Speaker 6: That's all. That's that, that's the messaging. The most important
game is the next one. I'd get an off season
a little bit differ because it's the next game for
like six months.
Speaker 5: There's no one way to do it. Yeah, you have
to trust your team. You gotta know your team.
Speaker 6: You gotta know what what drives them, you gotta know
what motivates them.
Speaker 5: You gotta know what I.
Speaker 8: Want to know that I want to know the team
from the first quarter of the first game. I'm not
saying you're going to know like everything about him, but
that that's one of the things that I think has
gotten you in trouble a little bit is as you
go into that game, you're.
Speaker 4: Still trying to figure things out.
Speaker 8: Like Garrett Dellinger plays center in the first game a
couple of years ago against Flories State. That was the
only game he played center. The next week he played
guard and Charles Turner came in at center for the rest.
Speaker 5: Of the year.
Speaker 9: Think about how many times you change secondaries the last
two years. Like and like people can get pissed or whatever.
Brian Kelly hasn't known this team in week one since
he's been here.
Speaker 5: He hasn't. Let's not get this twisted.
Speaker 6: They're not walking into the facility right now, and they
got coaches screening Clemson at him right now. But just like,
just like you said, the off season in the summer
is to callous the individual for an entire season, to
harden the individual, to get him ready for an entire season,
from a health standpoint, from a physical physicality standpoint, middle standpoint.
They'll get to the game. They're not game planning Clemson
right now. But in order to put somebody through physically
and mentally, emotionally, what you get put through during an
off season, from the training to summer workouts, being in
the heat. If you want to get the most out
of somebody, you have to give them a motivator, and
Clemson is a hell of a motivator to make you
work hard, too hard in yourself, to callous yourself.
Speaker 5: If you don't have that.
Speaker 6: If they don't put something a shiny object in front
of you and say this is what we're doing it for,
then there is a subconscious effort that's not being put in.
So like if that is what it is. If you
have a smaller team that you're playing, playing the first game,
you look at something else, you look at Alabama, you
look at you pay a picture, whatever picture you paint.
For those guys, it's emostly what you want to get
out of them. So if you want to get the
most physically out of somebody. You give them something to
look at.
Speaker 4: I will say this too. I know we got to
take a break.
Speaker 7: I'm somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we're switching.
Speaker 7: Yeah no, y'all, y'all have me somewhere in the middle
right now.
Speaker 8: So, uh, you know Taylor about not you know, not
knowing the team. You can certainly make that argument, but
also go make a damn play like usc the receiver.
Remember the play last year. He goes up, he's double covered,
he goes up, one hand, brings the ball down. You
know you didn't do you didn't defend that, or you
didn't defend it, didn't defend it, you did it like
your guys didn't go make that play. So like, sure,
I agree with you, Like there's got to you got
to know your team heading into week one and all that.
Speaker 4: But there's been plays to be made in these games.
Speaker 8: Like go back to the second Florida State game, right,
you drive the ball right down there, you get to
the goal line. First series, it looks like you're about
to go run them out of the building.
Speaker 4: What do you do? You don't score? Yeah, Like that's
like you got to.
Speaker 5: Build a better team for five years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the players got to go make some plays.
Speaker 9: Too well, and like to your point, Matt, like maybe
maybe that's why you need to focus, right, maybe they
maybe they weren't enough in the past. And then like
you were talking, okay, we'll focus on the next game.
This is the next game, says it, like, go get
it all.
Speaker 8: Right, we'll take great more OTB when we come back
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Speaker 1: Tigers turn talkers. This is off the bench.
Speaker 4: Oh alunder, I forgot.
Speaker 8: I was gonna ask you since we are, you know,
obviously superior when it comes to music here on the show.
Speaker 4: And then we have Apple Music. Yeah, did you get
your ten year playlist?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 7: So how do I do this?
Speaker 8: It should actually if you go to your Apple Music.
Mine just popped up. So I was trying to listen
to some music the other day and when I went
to the app, it's like, hey, happy ten year anniversary,
Apple Music. Here's the you know, thirty songs over the
last ten years that you've played the best on your phone.
Speaker 5: Cool.
Speaker 4: Oh it was incredible. I was like, I've listened to
that the most.
Speaker 8: It was like some because we yeah, mine's probably gonna
be some as a family.
Speaker 4: We do share, you know, the Apple music. So there
was some on there, but it was mostly bangers.
Speaker 7: Oh wait, hold on, I think I found it all
time replay.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, all right, you're welcome.
Speaker 7: Thank you. I'm excited for this.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Number one.
Speaker 4: Not a girl.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 7: I think it's because it's the first one, you know,
like when you connect to your car, like the first
song on your.
Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah, gosh. What's the name of
that song at sheer in eighteen eighteen that used to
be and so like that song is pretty good, but
like by the end of them, like.
Speaker 4: Eighteen by year and one more time, Yeah, because.
Speaker 5: You're gonna get it to your point in order.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a lot of stp on here. Yeah, I
speaking of a lot of Selena on here.
Speaker 4: That's see, it's fun, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Do you also know who's I know who?
Speaker 5: She was on Disney Channel?
Speaker 4: Wait, what was yours?
Speaker 7: Well? T Bob really didn't know play Selena in the movie,
and he didn't even know that.
Speaker 4: Hey five, I'll have five.
Speaker 7: There's not.
Speaker 9: Of course, if it wasn't for that movie, I'd have
no idea.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean the song that movie probably came
out before you were.
Speaker 7: So we had to watch it in English or the
Spanish because we watched well.
Speaker 9: We watched it in our Spanish class in school. Spanish
anything for CEL two Spanish is in high school for
in college.
Speaker 4: It should have been better at football.
Speaker 6: I was a communication study for a little while at
LSU and dropting because I had.
Speaker 5: To take a foreign language.
Speaker 7: It out?
Speaker 5: Did you?
Speaker 4: I was?
Speaker 5: I was a how'd you do that?
Speaker 7: I tested out that they gave me enough credits to
minor in it.
Speaker 9: We shouldn't have had to have taken English classes.
Speaker 4: I bet that.
Speaker 6: When I was in high school, I was we had
to take Spanish classes like Spanish one and two. And
there was people in our class that were like from
Mexico that spoke it fluently English with their secon language.
Speaker 5: They were in that class, and of course they got
an A.
Speaker 6: And so I made there argue about senior year, like
let me take e s L which is English for
the second language.
Speaker 5: Was like, let me take that so I can get
it like the.
Speaker 9: Same, right, I mean, I agree, right, yeah, how are
you allowed to take that?
Speaker 7: As your no, are well like the kids that they
still had to learn English and you still have to
learn Spanish, Like there's still you still have to learn
two languages. I just knew both already.
Speaker 4: Wasn't fair.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Are both your your parents can both?
Speaker 7: Yeah? My mom so like both my parents speak Spanish.
Speaker 8: I think I think being able to learn second language
is like one of the biggest flexes you can have,
like you're fluent two languages.
Speaker 7: To me, like we were in Omaha and I felt
so bad because our uber driver couldn't speak English, like
he only spoke Spanish. And sometimes I get like embarrassed
whenever I started speaking Spanish, but like I felt so
bad for him that I just started talking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, gosh, I think that is, like, like I said,
the ultimate flex.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And most people around the world can do it except.
Speaker 8: For Americans, no, I know, like whenever like an American
goes over and they play in uh, you know, the
Bundesliga or La League or whatever, like they learned that language,
and I'm like, man, that is it's easy.
Speaker 4: It's right there, like do it because they have to
do it.
Speaker 8: If you want to make life easy for you, you
learn German or you learn Italian.
Speaker 4: Whatever it might be. There all close together, English and Rednecks.
Speaker 6: Speaking of English people and music. We brought up Bittersweet
Symphony earlier. Yeah, we did a little research.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, the song.
Speaker 5: The song came out in nineteen ninety seven. Soon after
its release.
Speaker 6: There was a manager for the Rolling Stones, Alan Klein.
They thought that it sounded like an old Rollingstone song
called the Last Time, so they originally sued, saying that
it like exceeded the licensing blah blah blah. They shoot
in exchange for fifty percent of the royalty split, but
like soon after that they were like, nah, that's not
even good enough. We're gonna sue again, and they took
all royalties so bitter the verve never made any royalties
for like twenty years on that song that they created
it right, for twenty years. But after Alan Klein, I
think he passed away in seventeen or nine teen. Uh,
Keith Richards Make they all gave back.
Speaker 5: Okay, I gave the rights of the verb.
Speaker 4: I mean, hey, rolling Stone, Okay.
Speaker 7: This is the song. They saved.
Speaker 8: Every single song, Like when it comes on the radio today,
it's like, oh.
Speaker 5: There's only so many in stands. Right, there's only so
many notes out there, Yeah, so many.
Speaker 9: All the pro moved by klein Man, pro move. That's
a pro move.
Speaker 4: I will your I will say that's one about that guy.
Speaker 8: One of my favorite things is like when a song
starts and somebody thinks it's the new song. Yeah, it's
like no, no, no, this is like the original version that
came out twenty years ago that they sampled.
Speaker 5: All right, those dang selfish Brits.
Speaker 6: That's why we declared our independence birthday.
Speaker 7: Marcas, You're fired.
Speaker 4: This is I mean the Rolling Stones, Rolling Stones. This
is a better song.
Speaker 7: This is a this is a great song. I don't
really listen to the Rolling Stones all that much.
Speaker 6: I do, but not like a lot of Right, this
song dumps on the last time by the Rollings.
Speaker 5: Yes, well maybe not every rolling Stone song.
Speaker 4: But all right, let's do this.
Speaker 8: We'll take a break and when we come back, we're
coming back with that song so we can hear it
a little bit better as we close it out today
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Speaker 4: All Right, welcome back in.
Speaker 5: Ask the man making Rolling Stones rich right now.
Speaker 8: I've been actually, yeah, I've been thinking about switching from
Spotify to Apple Music.
Speaker 4: What are your reasons for why I should switch too.
I love music.
Speaker 8: It's easy to make a playlist, it's easy to search
a song.
Speaker 4: It's just it's right.
Speaker 8: It's it's a it's an app on the iPhone, and
the iPhone is going to do whatever they have to
do to make it easy for me.
Speaker 9: That's actually a really good shuffle.
Speaker 7: I feel like is better than the Spotify one too.
Speaker 8: In the playlist it comes up with for me, Like
it just automatically does it all the time, Like, hey,
you've been listening to this genre over the last couple
of months.
Speaker 4: Yeah, try this out Spotify.
Speaker 5: Spotify like not great for a family account.
Speaker 6: You know, every platform like Netflix, Disney, Like you turn
it on and you can click what person's using it.
Not here you have to like create emails for your
kids and sign them up.
Speaker 7: So you can. On Apple, you can have the family one,
but each person has their own Apple Music.
Speaker 9: That's it's like a little bit.
Speaker 7: So that would be my biggest argument for Spotify.
Speaker 5: It's hard to do it.
Speaker 7: Like the interfaces, it's so user friendly. I find spot Yes,
I find that Spotify has too much stuff and I
get overwhelmed with it, Like I'm like, what what are
we doing?
Speaker 6: So I like this question, ask the bench. Favorite movie
that takes place in the summer.
Speaker 7: Sand Lot is so good?
Speaker 9: I mean American American?
Speaker 7: Yeah, very fourth of July movie.
Speaker 4: Very four Actually I might, I might watch Sandlot. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Independence Day that happened in the summer.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I had, we had to watch.
Speaker 6: I can't wait to watch it with commercial breaks for
four hours this week.
Speaker 9: It's gonna be on a lot. It shouldn't be on
a lot. Independence, Today's borderline, Christmas Story now on fourth
of July.
Speaker 5: It plays like, oh for sure, Uh there was.
Speaker 4: There was a movie that came out in the late eighties.
Speaker 8: It was called Summer School, and it is like just
peak eighties movie, like every eighties thing you can think of,
like what you're thinking of, like stereotypical eighties movie comedy
is that And it is awesome. I watch it at
least once every year. I promise you you'll like it.
You'll find it. There'll be some nostalgia there.
Speaker 4: It's funny. Summer School.
Speaker 5: Check it out.
Speaker 6: Any kind of camp movie like Camp Nowhere, Heavyweights, like
anything that Happened, Yeah, everything that happened summer camps.
Speaker 5: Heavyweights probably, I.
Speaker 8: Mean, get on scale, get off the scales, so good,
real quick. We got one more ass. Do you say
snowball or snow cone?
Speaker 4: Snow cone?
Speaker 5: It comes to the snow cone.
Speaker 8: That's right, snow coat off the bench. I'd like that
we all agreed on that because I fight that good
fight all the time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the wrong answer, it's the wrong answer, Bud.
Speaker 7: Wait one to Yep, you're right there, we go.
Speaker 8: I enjoy a snow cone, but I really enjoy multiple
dose skis.
Speaker 5: You put that on the snow cone just.
Speaker 4: Turns into a slush beer. Whatever, it's still gonna be
delicious right now. Fourth of July coming up.
Speaker 8: I mean, you're gonna be out by the pool, you're
gonna be at the beach, You're gonna be by the grill.
Go ahead and go for a dose and grab a
couple of ice cold dose sekis to enjoy the downtime.
Speaker 6: Yeah, grab a couple for you, Grab a couple for
your friends, your family, everybody, whether you like bottles, maybe
you're by a pool. Maybe about basic got cans, They
got everything you need. Go to your local liquor store, grocer,
or whatever it is. Go pick up some today, start
icing it down for those Fourth of July hot dogs.
Nothing goes down like a cold dose. Eqies go for dose.
Drink responsibly.
Speaker 5: Go for dough