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Speaker 1: on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen
Speaker 1: fifty eight.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to in the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports Sports ten fifty I'm Steve Rivera. In with me
Speaker 2: is George Modis creating havoc here. God, it was like,
Speaker 2: give me his get his fixed going.
Speaker 3: We really fired him up.
Speaker 4: You got Ray handling the reky news today or one.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'm gonna be taking it. Okay, cool afternoon.
Speaker 4: Okay, you're the you're the rookie.
Speaker 3: Goat. Here we go.
Speaker 5: So, you know, we started off the show with this,
Speaker 5: but you know, big big story coming into this today.
Speaker 5: Got you of a the Arizona State in that last
Speaker 5: home game of the season went thirteen to.
Speaker 4: Do you guys think that we've seen the last of
Speaker 4: Bobby Yeah, i'd say so, Yeah, he's done. Yeah, there
Speaker 4: they are. I don't know if the official word is
Speaker 4: gonna no, not a officially, yeah, but it's it's been known. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, what are you talking to? You know,
Speaker 4: I have sources over there. You do talk to people
Speaker 4: about We'll talk about this and your connections to the
Speaker 4: past with former players because I know they come to
Speaker 4: the story right now, we'll talk about that.
Speaker 3: Why you you you're convinced too, right, Yeah, I believe so.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, yeah, well, I think when you have a
Speaker 6: little bit of desperation to it, or not even desperation,
Speaker 6: maybe just a little bit, uh, nothing to fight for
Speaker 6: necessarily all play for pride some of that someone when
Speaker 6: your best basketball comes out. But like, like we kind
Speaker 6: of talked about the begining of the show, it's a
Speaker 6: lot of talent that's been through Bobby's coaching carousel and
Speaker 6: not what has produced from it. Maybe one tournament run
Speaker 6: two and a half maybe, but given given the talent
Speaker 6: that they've had, that it should it should have been more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, people don't realize that's a big time school
Speaker 4: and you know obviously football program.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean the student body is one hundred and fifty thousand.
Speaker 4: I think it's about one hundred. Ye, it's a huge school.
Speaker 4: You know, they expect big things.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Following that up, Arizona women's basketball starts their Big Twelve
Speaker 5: Tournaments tomorrow against Colorado at twelve thirty. Colorado won their
Speaker 5: game against Houston I believe yesterday, So yeah.
Speaker 2: It's not tweeted earlier, there's nobody in the stands, but
Speaker 2: no one's going to go to the fifteen sixteen seed game.
Speaker 2: So we'll see if it gets any better. I know
Speaker 2: it's tough to get there too, right. People are already saying,
Speaker 2: I guess they canceled next week. They canceled some things
Speaker 2: on the fifth festivities because it's going to be cold.
Speaker 2: And your guy, your guy, I think is Brian kind
Speaker 2: of did you.
Speaker 3: See what he tweeted? Yeah, yeah, that's too bad.
Speaker 4: They don't have a site that they could use in
Speaker 4: lieu of going to Kansas City.
Speaker 3: Where would it be? Vegas? Vivas Vegas? Yes, did you
Speaker 3: usually go? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, killing a lot of people. Oh yeah, because
Speaker 4: they can't go. I mean it was the nickname Michel North.
Speaker 4: You know, it's killing me. I'm about to be on
Speaker 4: senior year spring break.
Speaker 6: It would have been a great opportunity to go to Vegas.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I got to go last year. It was It was
Speaker 5: a really good time. You know, just going to the
Speaker 5: press conferences and all that stuff. But you know, just
Speaker 5: keeping the ball.
Speaker 4: That's fun for you guys.
Speaker 3: Let's work. It's work.
Speaker 7: It's a new experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like one. Yeah, yeah, just.
Speaker 7: Keep the ball rolling.
Speaker 5: Auburn number one ranked team lost yesterday. It was Texas
Speaker 5: A and M's first time beating the number one ranked
Speaker 5: team in college basketball.
Speaker 7: It's kind of cool. Johnny Manziel was in attendance.
Speaker 5: He was also there when they beat number one ranked Alabama.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a great win for the Aggies.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, just well, to me, it shows that they're
Speaker 2: vulnerable and no one's there, no one's they're the favorite obviously, right,
Speaker 2: I'm going to get a catch catch hot here for
Speaker 2: six straight games I liked.
Speaker 3: I picked another team.
Speaker 2: I think I've already publicly said Arizona is in that
Speaker 2: mix kind of but I think they were like thirty five.
Speaker 4: To one to win it all.
Speaker 2: You're gonna spend ten bucks to win thirty five to one,
Speaker 2: you can say the Tim Bucks for Arizona.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fun beat. Yeah, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4: I mean that's I don't know what we can talk
Speaker 4: about more, but it's a to me, they're Sweet sixteen team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if they have odds on
Speaker 2: that one, you know, uh Sweet sixteen in Final four.
Speaker 2: I think they do maybe if they you are you
Speaker 2: in DraftKings no smart man, of course you are.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I play and I win a lot of parlays.
Speaker 3: Well look at you.
Speaker 2: Yep, So maybe you get on see if they have
Speaker 2: a future event for final four.
Speaker 3: I don't think they do for six six sixteen. I know,
Speaker 3: I don't think so either.
Speaker 2: Yeah for Arizona, but there their final for championship is
Speaker 2: thirty five to one.
Speaker 3: Wow, like you said you did? Yeah, kind of I
Speaker 3: do that too.
Speaker 5: You know, it's always fun to root for the hometown team,
Speaker 5: and you know, I think it's it's a little flawed
Speaker 5: when you kind of don't root for the team that
Speaker 5: you like to root for, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: It's a little like double agency.
Speaker 4: Great, you haven't been around me long enough.
Speaker 2: I'll uh, I'll, I'll mess with that perception after because
Speaker 2: one's already listened to me enough to see.
Speaker 4: Oh I'm not a fan. I'm sorry, I gotta be boring.
Speaker 6: Yeah he's really not, though, So good plus seven fifty
Speaker 6: for the final four.
Speaker 4: So soon and a half, seventy five to one, seventy
Speaker 4: five to one, would you put that? No?
Speaker 3: No, no, fifty plus seven fifty.
Speaker 6: Yeah, let me see, let me see, forty to one
Speaker 6: for the National Championship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay for a final four seven and a half, oh,
Speaker 4: seven and a half. Nice to get to the final four,
Speaker 4: So it pays okay, I don't know, so ten turns
Speaker 4: into seventy five dollars.
Speaker 3: Right, eighty five dollars exactly? Yeah, yeah, probably go for that,
Speaker 3: but hundred Steve.
Speaker 4: Might as well give it to you for those cards
Speaker 4: you got.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So switching over to some NFL, the Seahawks pretty much
Speaker 5: like lost their whole receiving court today. You know, Tyler
Speaker 5: Lockett got cut from the team and DK is asking
Speaker 5: for a trade. Now DK metcalf and so that's gonna
Speaker 5: that's gonna be a pretty crazy switch up.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: Gino Smith, Uh, he had a good I feel like
Speaker 5: he had a decent year last year.
Speaker 4: But nothing nothing Seahawks. I mean, they don't really raise
Speaker 4: your eyebrows anytime. How long was last time? Maybe when
Speaker 4: they got to the Super Bowl against the the Patriots
Speaker 4: and they blew the call.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, in the past when they ran man yeah
Speaker 5: oh man.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Uh, Kyrie Irving towards a c L Man. It feels
Speaker 5: like the Mavericks just are cursed right now.
Speaker 4: Huh. Yeah, they are get rid of your baby and
Speaker 4: comes he gets hurt and then that's it. And the
Speaker 4: Cowboys he announced he doesn't even want to come back anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why what for? Do I still get paid?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Never mind?
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, yep.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Sticking with the NBA too, Lebron scored got to fifty
Speaker 5: k yesterday. Regular season and playoffs. When it comes to points,
Speaker 5: felt like a pretty big milestone. I mean, when it
Speaker 5: comes to those greatest of all time conversations obviously always.
Speaker 2: Well because because that you said that his cards are
Speaker 2: like the card you you saw it he got hopeful
Speaker 2: for because he's gone past fifty thousand, his cards raised
Speaker 2: a little. Oh yeah, absolutely, yep, they do. They go
Speaker 2: up on a player performance.
Speaker 4: So you know, he's to me, Michael Jordan's still the
Speaker 4: going is Everybody else thinks he's the Isn't This might
Speaker 4: be a dumb statement by me, which I've said all
Speaker 4: the time on the show. Uh is he kind of
Speaker 4: not old but kind of it's tiring already?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're not.
Speaker 2: Just because he's done so much and he does all
Speaker 2: these things. What does that matter now if he became
Speaker 2: the king of Egypt? I mean, he's Lebron. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, How much more can those cards
Speaker 2: get value? Because he's got If.
Speaker 4: They win another one and keeps going up, it does,
Speaker 4: And that's probably the nex Yeah, because then there's no debate,
Speaker 4: like he is the goat if he wins another one.
Speaker 4: I think so, I don't know, I mean popcorn. They're
Speaker 4: gonna They're gonna go for it. It's gonna be a
Speaker 4: good show him and Luca. You saw Michael Jordan's play, right, Yes,
Speaker 4: of course I know you and I did. These young
Speaker 4: these young kids have not seen him.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Oh, these guys are Lebron.
Speaker 3: Don't put Lebron on my name.
Speaker 6: No, no jordanskay, Okay, I grew up.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 6: You play those two K games. It has Jordan on
Speaker 6: the cover. That was my first two K game.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Kind of sticking with the Lakers. They've been on a
Speaker 5: crazy run since Luca got there. Jumped into the two
Speaker 5: seed yesterday, which I felt kind of kind of shaking
Speaker 5: up the NBA a little bit.
Speaker 2: Watch out for the Warriors. There are six with Butler,
Speaker 2: I think there were six. They won last night.
Speaker 4: I think I agree with you with the Warriors. I
Speaker 4: think it could be the Warriors Lakers in the Western Conference,
Speaker 4: but okase is pretty damn good that young team. You're
Speaker 4: shaking your head.
Speaker 6: You don't like the okay, see No, I think they're
Speaker 6: still a little bit too inexperienced. Uh And when it
Speaker 6: comes to the playoffs, I just don't trust them.
Speaker 3: They're kind of kind of like.
Speaker 6: The Timberwolves or Yeah, they look great on a regular
Speaker 6: season day, but when the stakes kids tied, who's gonna
Speaker 6: take the final shot?
Speaker 3: And I don't think either team has proved it. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: I'll writing that stuff down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, another kind of big news today around the horn
Speaker 5: and part of the interruption are.
Speaker 4: Oh I saw that taking off the air over right
Speaker 4: after like twenty some years.
Speaker 7: I think it was like twenty three or twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Three years, right right, kind of grew you guys kind
Speaker 2: of grew up on it right after, did you?
Speaker 3: Did you believe it was about time?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You have at your place, absolutely. Yeah, we run those
Speaker 4: all the time, and it was just that's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have this.
Speaker 2: Our show is not really a debate unless I have
Speaker 2: Jayni fighting about something.
Speaker 3: Those things have kind of run its course. I think
Speaker 3: it did.
Speaker 4: Stephen and fight all the time. But it's tiring too. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: it was. It was due. I thought you agree with Yes,
Speaker 4: George makes for good radio.
Speaker 9: Mm.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Max Crosby signed a super big extension. He's now the
Speaker 5: highest paid non quarterback. Got a three year deal for
Speaker 5: one hundred and six and a half million dollars.
Speaker 8: Nice.
Speaker 3: He's good. So did Tau He got paid yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And there was a there was another lineman that's
Speaker 5: retiring super early. He's only twenty nine. Sam Hubbard from
Speaker 5: the Bengals, uh, retiring after seven seasons. He was twenty nine.
Speaker 5: I thought he was doing pretty good on the Bengals.
Speaker 5: You know, they had a well they had a little
Speaker 5: bit of a down here this year, but overall they.
Speaker 3: The line is a brutal position.
Speaker 4: I mean a lot of people don't realize the fingers
Speaker 4: are just you know, you ever see those guys fingers
Speaker 4: they're sideways.
Speaker 3: You know, it's just it's tough on that. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So, I mean you look at other shows, like I
Speaker 5: watched Pat McFee show a lot.
Speaker 7: You look at a J Hawk's fingers and it's just, man,
Speaker 7: they're going all good.
Speaker 5: And then tonight got a got a top ten matchup, right,
Speaker 5: after the show. A. Sorry, Alabama and Florida are playing,
Speaker 5: uh in Tuscaloosacalusa.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're playing in Tuscaloosa.
Speaker 4: Oh that's good. What's the what's the spread? Oh no, no, no, yeah,
Speaker 4: what's spread? Can you find that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: In Tuscaloosa, Alabama and Florida. Wow, that should be pretty good.
Speaker 7: Alabama's favored by three and a half.
Speaker 4: Yeah at home, that's about right. That should be a
Speaker 4: fantastic game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mean it's coming down to the wire
Speaker 5: with with all these yeah, since since Conference sernaments are
Speaker 5: about to start and.
Speaker 3: Sees the top league in the country. Yes, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: you agree with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, there's so many I don't know if they
Speaker 2: have a winner there. I think I'm hoping I bet
Speaker 2: one of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that's that's it. That's all I could do.
Speaker 3: You have anything on uh No, I mean we pretty
Speaker 3: much covered everything.
Speaker 6: Got some upcoming baseball softball games, and I'm actually really
Speaker 6: excited for tomorrow at the World Baseball Classic. I don't
Speaker 6: really get out to a lot of baseball games and
Speaker 6: or even just softball games, so I'm excited to see.
Speaker 6: I got a little bit of homework to do the
Speaker 6: one once I'm there, but like like like saying you're
Speaker 6: going to game or no. So part of the homework
Speaker 6: is going to interview fans and possibly like if he's hopeful,
Speaker 6: if cats eye news the one where we put on
Speaker 6: the newscast. Yeah, so, but regardless, I'm excited. Did it's
Speaker 6: for me? It's the day, the night before spring break starts.
Speaker 6: I'll be heading out to LA and I'm excited.
Speaker 2: I'm doing all these guys. I'm losing my help next week,
Speaker 2: so I got to actually run the board. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be like you read, I'm gonna be a little nervous.
Speaker 2: Gonna have you when you do your card showing petings.
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty next week, twenty third, next week, a week after,
Speaker 4: a week after.
Speaker 2: You're a busy man always Yeah, Okay, anything else? No,
Speaker 2: maybe we got about more about a minute a half. Now,
Speaker 2: let's just go. Let's just go get ahold of Michael
Speaker 2: lef Yeah, Michael.
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Speaker 1: Breaking down all the ipsays at OHS. This is I
Speaker 1: on the Ball with Steve Ravera Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to the ball Here on Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera in with me today is
Speaker 2: George Monies, Puan with us and Ray Now on the phone.
Speaker 2: We have Michael liv Michael, how are you good?
Speaker 9: How are you guys?
Speaker 3: We're doing fine.
Speaker 4: I want you to vouch for me. I did not
Speaker 4: fall asleep in last night's game.
Speaker 9: No, definitely not, even though I mean it was a
Speaker 9: super high scoring game, but it wasn't the most compelling
Speaker 9: game I've seen a mikhale this season. It certainly wasn't like,
Speaker 9: you know, like the Houston game or Highway Tick game
Speaker 9: or Texas Tech you know, all of those.
Speaker 2: How would you, well, how would you might be able
Speaker 2: to do this? Because you're a columnist at the Star,
Speaker 2: how would you write this season to this point?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: What would you be? Your name?
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's been weird leads. This is strange. This is
Speaker 9: a strange team. Yeah, you know, like the best player
Speaker 9: on the team is extremely inconsistent, right, total enigma. Sometimes
Speaker 9: he's amazing, and sometimes he cannot hit a shot to
Speaker 9: save his life. The players who start, you know, some
Speaker 9: of them aren't necessarily the best players on the team, right,
Speaker 9: Like they that changed a little bit when they when
Speaker 9: they inserted Henry Basar into the starting lineup, but you
Speaker 9: know a lot of their best lineup is kind of
Speaker 9: a mix of starters and backups. Certain guys kind of
Speaker 9: came out of nowhere this year, like Henry. You know,
Speaker 9: certain guys maybe haven't quite improved as much as we thought.
Speaker 9: Some guys haven't been disappointments, you know, like Trey Townsend
Speaker 9: hasn't really been what people thought he would be. And
Speaker 9: yet when you put it all together, this is a
Speaker 9: pretty darn good team and a team that has done
Speaker 9: very well in a difficult conference. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question.
Speaker 2: Last night you were at the game, did you think
Speaker 2: that you've seen Bobby for the last time?
Speaker 9: I mean I made that prediction the last time that
Speaker 9: Arizona faced ASU. I mean it was in part because
Speaker 9: of his his comportment, you know, his his behavior, the
Speaker 9: way he handled that endgame situation. But I also kind
Speaker 9: of clapped back at people who were trying to tell
Speaker 9: me that his record was too good for him to
Speaker 9: stick around. It really isn't. I mean, it is not
Speaker 9: that great, and it has not been that good since
Speaker 9: the pandemic. I think you know, some misfortune there, Yeah,
Speaker 9: for Asu, the timing of that that might have been
Speaker 9: one of his better teams. I was talking to Doug Tamreau,
Speaker 9: the ASU sports information director, about this the other day.
Speaker 9: They had a really good baseball team that year too,
Speaker 9: like a really really good, it is well team up
Speaker 9: at ASU, including you know, the guy who became the
Speaker 9: number one pick in the draft, Spencertoricalsen and they never
Speaker 9: got to see it through. So maybe there's some bad
Speaker 9: luck there. But hey, yeah, you know, you've had a
Speaker 9: lot of time to recover since then. NCAA appearances have
Speaker 9: been few and far between. It's kind of the benchmark.
Speaker 9: I think that his like his tenure, his run its course,
Speaker 9: and that he's they're going to go in a different direction.
Speaker 9: I don't have any sources on that. That's just my
Speaker 9: read on the situation.
Speaker 6: So, Michael, this is one just looking ahead. You know,
Speaker 6: they have the Kansas game, they will have the Big
Speaker 6: twelve tournament, but realistically, this team has three guaranteed games left.
Speaker 6: What what is this team's ceiling? What is his team's floor,
Speaker 6: and what what will be like the X factor for
Speaker 6: this team going forward.
Speaker 9: I think the ceiling is maybe the elite eighth. I
Speaker 9: think the floor is, you know, one and done in
Speaker 9: the NCAA tournament. I'd like to think that that's not
Speaker 9: going to happen and probably end up, you know, somewhere
Speaker 9: between a four and a six seed, depending on how
Speaker 9: these last few games play out, so they will be
Speaker 9: favored in that first game no matter who they face.
Speaker 9: You would like to think that the experiences that they've
Speaker 9: had in recent years will help them, you know, playing
Speaker 9: as a favorite, or you know, winning games when the
Speaker 9: ball is not going through the hoop at the rate
Speaker 9: that they're used to that sort of thing. I mean,
Speaker 9: I know the defense hasn't been very good lately, but
Speaker 9: it's been pretty good overall, and you could argue that
Speaker 9: it's actually been like better than the offense has been,
Speaker 9: which is uncharacteristic for a Tommy Lloyd team. But that's okay,
Speaker 9: you know what, whatever gets the job done. I think
Speaker 9: the biggest X factor is probably Caleb Love. You know,
Speaker 9: I think you kind of know what you're gonna get
Speaker 9: from most everybody else. With Caleb, we have no really,
Speaker 9: you have no idea going into a given game if
Speaker 9: his shots falling, if he gets on a hot streak,
Speaker 9: I think Arizona could go a long way, and if
Speaker 9: he's in a slump like we've seen. Then they're going
Speaker 9: to have to figure out a way to overcome that,
Speaker 9: and that just makes everything that much more difficult.
Speaker 2: So, Michael, you said the floor in the ceiling, which
Speaker 2: is more likely?
Speaker 9: Ooh man, that's tough. I don't know. I mean, the
Speaker 9: odds are that it would lean more towards the floor
Speaker 9: than the ceiling. Because it's hard. It's hard to make
Speaker 9: a run. It's hard to get to the Elite eight
Speaker 9: or the final four. Is Arizona fans well, no, even
Speaker 9: though they're you know, considered a quote unquote blue blood program,
Speaker 9: they haven't made it to the Elite eight in how long,
Speaker 9: Steve like fifteen, like ten years? Yeah, a decade or so.
Speaker 9: So it's it's tough. It's really tough. And and this
Speaker 9: is a like I said at the beginning, like this
Speaker 9: is a strange team that's hard to get a read on.
Speaker 9: It's definitely like different from Tommy's previous teams, which maybe
Speaker 9: that's a good thing. You know, maybe this team's got
Speaker 9: a little bit more toughness to it, a little more
Speaker 9: mental and physical toughness to it that will help help
Speaker 9: them get through some rough patches because you know, at
Speaker 9: some point in time in the tournament, there's they're gonna
Speaker 9: hit a rough patch. They're gonna face a team that's
Speaker 9: hot from the outside, or a team that is going
Speaker 9: to play some sort of a zone defense that's gonna
Speaker 9: throw them off and they're gonna have to figure it
Speaker 9: out on the fly. I mean, I think they have
Speaker 9: a good amount of experience, guys who have been there
Speaker 9: and done that in the postseason. It's not like a
Speaker 9: super young team. They have a lot of veterans. They
Speaker 9: have size. They don't have great shooting from the outside.
Speaker 9: That's maybe the biggest variable that they have. But yeah,
Speaker 9: I don't know. I don't really know which which is
Speaker 9: the right answer, certainly hoping that it's the ceiling and
Speaker 9: not the floor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no question.
Speaker 2: You've gone to a number of press commerces obviously postgame
Speaker 2: you missed a couple of What are your perceptions of
Speaker 2: Tommy this year? And I'm talking not so much on
Speaker 2: the court, but off off of it. When you get
Speaker 2: to see him talk to him, I think he's I.
Speaker 9: Don't know if this is different from where it's been
Speaker 9: in the past, but he's very protective of his players.
Speaker 18: I feel like.
Speaker 9: He, especially new Caleb love.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I mean he talks about him like this was you
Speaker 9: were there last night. Like I asked him about what
Speaker 9: it was like to go through you know, senior night
Speaker 9: with his son, Yeah, Liam, and he was sort of like,
Speaker 9: you know, business as usual whatever. William's doing his own thing.
Speaker 9: And then when he's talking it like he's almost talked
Speaker 9: more affectionately about loved son, which I don't know if
Speaker 9: he probably doesn't really feel that way, but it kind
Speaker 9: of came off that way, which I just thought it
Speaker 9: was kind of funny. But what I what I you know,
Speaker 9: thought he might say is like something to the effect of,
Speaker 9: like I view these all of these guys like my son,
Speaker 9: you know, like he's talked about this before. He talked
Speaker 9: about it with Lumar Baalo, like he used himself as
Speaker 9: a caretaker for.
Speaker 3: These kids, right, And.
Speaker 9: That's what sort of the most common theme that I've
Speaker 9: noticed in his his preim post game press briefings this year.
Speaker 2: It's funny because you I can't remember the question you
Speaker 2: asked and he responded, you know, because some of these guys,
Speaker 2: it's kind of like the Barbie Night approach. You know,
Speaker 2: do you like coaching basketball? What do you think I
Speaker 2: like coaching, you know, they bring you into the conversation.
Speaker 2: He had one of those questions for you after what
Speaker 2: kind of question? Because he does that to me right now, Oh.
Speaker 3: I knew what it was.
Speaker 9: I know what it was. Yeah, I was. I was
Speaker 9: asking about Jaden Bradley dunking in the game. He was like, oh,
Speaker 9: how many time? You know how many times he dunk
Speaker 9: this year? And I said three? It might be four,
Speaker 9: but who's keeping track of that? And I said I
Speaker 9: you know, And I said I was because I'll be
Speaker 9: planning to write something about Jayden Bradley. So there was
Speaker 9: a reason that that I asked that question in that
Speaker 9: particular way. But yeah, I think he's you know, he's
Speaker 9: playful with the media. There's a good give and take,
Speaker 9: you know, the barbs that he exchanges with my colleague
Speaker 9: Bruce Pasco, it's all in good fun. I think I
Speaker 9: think he's a good guy. Whereas Bobby Knight different stories.
Speaker 4: There was a question someone asked last night where they said,
Speaker 4: like they compared like, how did this game compared to
Speaker 4: an NBA that was and he seemed kind of up.
Speaker 4: Never coached the NBA, so you can't. That's how he
Speaker 4: always answer that's how he is. You know, you can't
Speaker 4: presume he.
Speaker 9: Doesn't like Yeah, he doesn't like hypotheticals.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's I don't like to live in the hypothetical.
Speaker 4: Know, he does a lot. He does a lot when
Speaker 4: you ask a question, But do you ask me so so?
Speaker 2: Uh? Kansas here, and I think I want to ask
Speaker 2: you a great question about what's the future like that?
Speaker 2: But what's Kansas gonna look like? That's gonna be tough.
Speaker 2: In fact, Uh, I think you had asked Brian about
Speaker 2: the number of times that uh, that Bill self has
Speaker 2: lost in the in the final game of the year.
Speaker 9: Probably not many. Kansas is very emotional two senior day
Speaker 9: for them. That is the mecca of college basketball, pretty
Speaker 9: much one of the toughest places to play in the country.
Speaker 9: But that's a that's another really weird team. Kansas has
Speaker 9: been a pretty big disappointment this season. They also lack
Speaker 9: outside shooting. So I think Arizona has a really good chance.
Speaker 9: I think Arizona is going to be much more attentive
Speaker 9: in that game than they were last night. I do
Speaker 9: not think despite the fact that it was Asu, the
Speaker 9: rivalry all of that, I don't think they took the
Speaker 9: Sun Devils that seriously, and that was reflected and how
Speaker 9: bad they were defensively in that game.
Speaker 2: This whole year, you could talk about every game that
Speaker 2: they are not taking teams seriously they have they struggle
Speaker 2: with I've followed it for thirty some years now and
Speaker 2: that's exactly been the problem under Loot, under Sean and
Speaker 2: now Tommy, where they kind of play with their food,
Speaker 2: play with their food, and if they get in trouble
Speaker 2: light they get beat. But last night they were they
Speaker 2: didn't get beat.
Speaker 9: You know what that is? That human nature? You're exactly
Speaker 9: eighteen two year old kids attention spans. Yeah, you know, yeah,
Speaker 9: none of that surprises me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're exactly right. I talk about that all
Speaker 2: the time. If you're not emotionally ready to get ready
Speaker 2: for a game, then you're gonna get beat. And you're right,
Speaker 2: human nature, and it's I saw it for Loots teams
Speaker 2: primarily because they had good dudes, you know, Richard Jefferson,
Speaker 2: Luke Waton, Gilbertine is, oh, we got this, don't worry
Speaker 2: about it. And then they show up. The other team
Speaker 2: says you don't got this. I We're going to beat you,
Speaker 2: and they have to eventually find a way to win.
Speaker 4: Correct and it kills the fan because there are some
Speaker 4: games you're watching.
Speaker 3: The whole game, frustrated home game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're winning the whole game, and then we just
Speaker 4: lose it at the end the last couple of minutes.
Speaker 9: And I'm like, wow, yeah, I think he was. Yeah,
Speaker 9: he referenced the game against the ASU from a couple
Speaker 9: of years ago where they ended up hitting the winning shot,
Speaker 9: and I kept saying to you, Steve, you know late
Speaker 9: in that game last night, like they're hanging around. Yep,
Speaker 9: they're still still there. They haven't really been able to
Speaker 9: pull away. At one point, you know, it got to
Speaker 9: a three point game, and I think that got their attention.
Speaker 9: You know, then all of a sudden, I think it
Speaker 9: was a six to zero run or an eight to
Speaker 9: oh run, and they kind of put them away at
Speaker 9: that point. But hey, you know, we're kind of in
Speaker 9: you know, that was if there was a dog Day's game,
Speaker 9: I think that was last night. Yeah, nice, that was
Speaker 9: the dog right, And this is the upcoming Saturday is
Speaker 9: kind of the start of the postseason, even though it's
Speaker 9: officially not.
Speaker 4: Well, I no, you exactly, It's almost like one and done.
Speaker 3: Time.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, let me switch gears a little
Speaker 2: uh football, Uh, there was a surprise move, at least
Speaker 2: to me earlier this week or late last week.
Speaker 4: When did Atina decide to leave? Were you taken aback
Speaker 4: by that.
Speaker 3: A little bit?
Speaker 9: Just because you know, he's you know, obviously obviously in
Speaker 9: the little latter stages of his career, he's sixty eight
Speaker 9: years old. Kind of thought maybe this was, you know,
Speaker 9: his last opportunities compensated pretty well. But I've also heard
Speaker 9: that a lot of his families in Austin that there
Speaker 9: might be like, you know, wanting to be closer to
Speaker 9: the grandchildren kind of situation going on there a little bit.
Speaker 9: And maybe he's a little upset that he was removed
Speaker 9: as defensive coordinator. You know, it seemed like he was,
Speaker 9: you know, part of that decision making process, but not
Speaker 9: not hugely surprised. I mean, these assistant coaches in college football,
Speaker 9: they move around so much. You know, if if you
Speaker 9: last anywhere more than two years, it's almost almost the
Speaker 9: exception these days. Now, he's obviously not trying to climb
Speaker 9: the career latter at this point in in his in
Speaker 9: his coaching career, but now, I wasn't usually surprised. I
Speaker 9: also don't think it's going to have that huge of
Speaker 9: an impact on the team unless there's some players who
Speaker 9: end up following him, and we'll see what that looks
Speaker 9: like when the spring portal window opens. I don't I
Speaker 9: don't think that a lot of players are If any.
Speaker 2: One last quick quick question. Adia starts her postseason here tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I know you've written a column about her situation, unsigned
Speaker 2: contracts and stuff like that. What do you think is
Speaker 2: going to happen with this program? I'm asking you like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm asking you lightly.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's pretty tenuous. I gotta be honest, you know
Speaker 9: I I I am not sure she's gonna be the
Speaker 9: head coach of this program beyond this spring. We'll see
Speaker 9: what happens. Something is going to have to come to
Speaker 9: a head in terms of her future and what desiree
Speaker 9: Reid Francois wants this program to look like. I think
Speaker 9: there's still some questions about how much, you know, the
Speaker 9: department is willing to invest in woman's basketball, despite the
Speaker 9: fact that it draws extremely well. I you know, as
Speaker 9: far as nil revenue sharing, all of those things. I mean,
Speaker 9: they're they're kind of in a tough spot. The teams
Speaker 9: that have kind of finished ahead of them in the
Speaker 9: Big Twelve, they've spent money to acquire players, and that's
Speaker 9: just kind of the way it is right now. I
Speaker 9: don't know if you can win if you don't do that,
Speaker 9: And it doesn't seem like from what I've heard that
Speaker 9: there's going to be a huge investment in women's basketball
Speaker 9: to enable Adia or whoever the next coach is to
Speaker 9: do that. So that's a challenging and interesting situation here.
Speaker 9: Then we'll learn more over the next few weeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me like one more last question because I
Speaker 2: know you cover this ye whole hardly. The baseball program.
Speaker 2: Chip Pail didn't start well, but he's got a team,
Speaker 2: apparently because they played well over the last few days.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it is very hard as fans to not panic
Speaker 9: when you see your team lose the second game of
Speaker 9: the season sixteen to five and third game of the
Speaker 9: season thirteen to one. But the baseball season is extremely long.
Speaker 9: We knew that this was a good veteran team. We
Speaker 9: knew that they played really good teams that first weekend,
Speaker 9: so I'm not surprised that they've had a good run
Speaker 9: of success since going zero to three to start the season.
Speaker 9: Now they got nine home games coming up here in
Speaker 9: a row, a really good opportunity to kind of establish
Speaker 9: themselves as a serious threat to win the Big twelve
Speaker 9: over these next two weekends.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Michaels always, thank you very much. We'll see you soon.
Speaker 2: Thank you, appreciate it all right, take care. I can
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Speaker 2: Hello, we're back talking about this here. One of my
Speaker 2: great sponsors, showtime Cards George Montus with me Rey. We're
Speaker 2: inn in the board and one supervising us. There was
Speaker 2: something I wanted to talk about, not so much cards.
Speaker 2: Did you have something I you could go just because
Speaker 2: we're in Arizona show. Yeah, the Suns came back from
Speaker 2: twenty three down. Oh I saw that and there was
Speaker 2: a little bit of controversy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, where Katie they were They think it
Speaker 6: was time out. Katie comes to the bench and the
Speaker 6: coach trying to talk to him and he grabs Katie
Speaker 6: by the arm farm and Katy kind of like rips
Speaker 6: it away, and that's all I saw. But apparently there
Speaker 6: was a little bit more after where they kind of
Speaker 6: like actually mutually exchanged words, kind of like trying to
Speaker 6: figure out what was going on in the game.
Speaker 4: Right, So I saw that? Did you see that?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: I saw in a tweet. Yeah, I didn't see the
Speaker 4: after effects. I don't know if Katie is going to
Speaker 4: be there next year. What do you guys think? Definitely
Speaker 4: not right. No, I don't think he wants to. I
Speaker 4: don't think so either. That team is so underachieved and
Speaker 4: very inconsistent.
Speaker 3: Devin Booker.
Speaker 4: He can start off a game like the other day
Speaker 4: he had I know because I'm betting his over points
Speaker 4: twenty seven points. He's got ten points in the first quarter,
Speaker 4: seventeen in the first half, and then he doesn't score
Speaker 4: a single point the second half.
Speaker 3: You're you're like Ja the Koda, you know.
Speaker 4: So it's just that team, it is it's it's it's
Speaker 4: up and down and then they come back.
Speaker 2: And this doesn't happen with good teams where you know,
Speaker 2: you've been married.
Speaker 4: I've been married.
Speaker 2: These kids don't get married if there's no chemistry if
Speaker 2: there's no chemistry and if you don't want to be there,
Speaker 2: it's hard to fix. And they were good eight and one.
Speaker 2: I think it was to start the year. They haven't
Speaker 2: been good since. There's got to be I'm a psychologist
Speaker 2: on the show, right, there's got to be issues within
Speaker 2: the family. As does that make sense because stuff like
Speaker 2: that just doesn't happen. If you've got good talent, you
Speaker 2: learn how to play together, right, and they haven't learned
Speaker 2: how to play together, no matter how good they are.
Speaker 2: Doubt talented they are. And he's one of the best, right,
Speaker 2: But everywhere I shouldn't say everywhere he goes, he didn't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah where it's it's watched me, look at me.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 6: I mean, if you think about it, about fifty percent
Speaker 6: of the place he's gone, have you had issues? Have
Speaker 6: had the issues? You know the thunder. They were young,
Speaker 6: so they're yeah, they're supposed to have those issues. Get
Speaker 6: into a little bit of later years and you know,
Speaker 6: Katie needs a championship. He goes to the Warriors, he succeeds,
Speaker 6: goes to the Nest because you need something fresh. That
Speaker 6: didn't work out. Now he's with the Suns. It's still
Speaker 6: not working out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well he left Golden State because he wasn't the man.
Speaker 4: It's Cray's team, so he's like, I need my own team.
Speaker 4: That's why he went to Brooklyn, wasn't it with Lebron? Yeah,
Speaker 4: so let me ask you, what about Guy Rodgers? Is
Speaker 4: his card worth anything now? For for the Jets? Rogers? Well,
Speaker 4: as a matter of fact, I just bought an autograph
Speaker 4: card yesterday with him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with him, Yeah, Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4: Okay, mister investor, why would you do that of his?
Speaker 3: He still sells people still.
Speaker 4: I mean he won to he won a you know, championship,
Speaker 4: he was, he was one of the greatest.
Speaker 3: He get thee.
Speaker 4: He's an exception, he is, But I mean same thing.
Speaker 4: He's got this weirdness about him. You know, he's kind
Speaker 4: of a character. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, they paid a ton of money for two years
Speaker 2: and got achilles injury and no wins, wins.
Speaker 4: Released, then they released Devonte. Well he'll end up with
Speaker 4: Rogers somewhere. Aren't you a Raiders Raiders raider? Yeah, you
Speaker 4: cust your fingers here, Yeah, because you're a big Raider show. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you get the private jet go up every weekend. Yes,
Speaker 4: it's no private jet, but I do go your team.
Speaker 4: What's your team in football? The football? The Broncos. Okay,
Speaker 4: so what do you guys have miseries?
Speaker 9: Not this year?
Speaker 3: No, they have a good quarterback. Yeah, and a good coach.
Speaker 6: You know, I think he's a little bit overrated coach,
Speaker 6: our coach, the Broncos coach. I think one of the
Speaker 6: reasons we lost to the Bills was because of him
Speaker 6: and his play calling.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you your your life. We got Pete Carroll,
Speaker 4: Mark Marcus Allen. Isn't coming through that that wall, that
Speaker 4: locker room. Oh no, no, that's a bad blood with
Speaker 4: those guys. But you still love them and you still
Speaker 4: go to the games, and oh yeah I do. And it's fun.
Speaker 4: It's in Las Vegas. It's quite an event. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's a crazy place to go with. It
Speaker 4: has great halftime shows and it's you know, it's it's awesome.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see Ray. Who's your team? You probably give
Speaker 4: the Rams or somebody.
Speaker 7: Oh I'm a I'm a big Niners.
Speaker 4: Well I figure exactly a lot of Rays near LA
Speaker 4: But it's near.
Speaker 7: Yeah as cuse as San Francisco. Yeah, yeah, grew up
Speaker 7: big forty nine ers.
Speaker 5: Fans start started watching when I started playing, like Pop
Speaker 5: Warner and stuff.
Speaker 7: So Jim Harbaugh was the coach.
Speaker 5: Yeah, grew to despise the Seahawks and now you know
Speaker 5: a few more teams.
Speaker 3: And what do you think they're gonna pay brought perty or.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they should n't.
Speaker 20: I mean, I agree they should pay him, but it's
Speaker 20: just he has he has that spark and it's yeah,
Speaker 20: I guess you know, maybe a little like physically he's
Speaker 20: a little limited, you know, smaller stature kind of guy,
Speaker 20: doesn't usually play.
Speaker 7: Well in the weather games.
Speaker 5: But I mean he he has that it factor where
Speaker 5: it's like, you know, when it's when it's time to
Speaker 5: go win a game, he'll he'll usually do that, like
Speaker 5: with against good teams or against bad teams. I mean
Speaker 5: even in that Super Bowl a couple of years ago,
Speaker 5: he had him in the game the whole time.
Speaker 3: He's got good football IQ. I mean they were in
Speaker 3: that game. They couldn't they should have won. Don't you
Speaker 3: want that as your quarterback?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 3: I mean you can give you.
Speaker 2: Your Rogers and the talent blah blah blah, but if
Speaker 2: you have the quarterback with quarterback IQ.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's like a point guard. You don't you don't teach.
Speaker 4: McConnell's proven that you don't have to jump through the
Speaker 4: gym and blah blah blah, you just got to run
Speaker 4: the team.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and a lot of people, I mean, it's this
Speaker 5: huge cliche because you know, late round, late round guy
Speaker 5: and similar, like you know, everybody always gonna do comparison
Speaker 5: to like Tom Brady and stuff like that. But it's like,
Speaker 5: you know, when you look at like Tom Brady when
Speaker 5: he was in college, is like he didn't really start
Speaker 5: a whole ton. You know, he would just like come
Speaker 5: in and he would just go in and win games.
Speaker 5: Like they would like put it similar and just win games.
Speaker 5: And it was kind of you know, it's kind of
Speaker 5: like that when when Brock was in college. I mean
Speaker 5: he you know, going against Oklahoma and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a little tougher, but yeah, yeah, do
Speaker 5: you believe do you believe in the sports?
Speaker 3: Gods? Do you believe in that? It's a serious question.
Speaker 3: Do you believe in the sports?
Speaker 2: So sometimes you just catch lightning in a bottle and
Speaker 2: you become Tom Brady. You know, he was with a
Speaker 2: backup forever. And then the guy gets a blize yeah,
Speaker 2: and gets hurt, and all of a sudden, here's this guy,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: And he becomes a goat.
Speaker 4: I mean that's yeah, that's a sports guy.
Speaker 3: Dawkins gets hurt.
Speaker 6: Dawkins goes out against Colorado, and then four hundred and
Speaker 6: some yards later, Calil Tate's the Heisman.
Speaker 3: Favorite, right right. It happens just like that, Yeah, and
Speaker 3: then it goes away. And then it goes away.
Speaker 6: We're talking about he comes in for a half wins
Speaker 6: in the National Championship. Concussions here and there, and now
Speaker 6: you're wondering Willie Last.
Speaker 4: No, I believe. I believe in that circumstances events, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sports gods are real. I try not to rely on them.
Speaker 4: You don't pray to them. Is that this is radio
Speaker 4: that's shaking up the head. Doesn't get me anywhere.
Speaker 6: No, I don't, well, see I'm not, I don't. I
Speaker 6: don't want to touch anything to do.
Speaker 3: I know they're there. I don't want to. Yeah, just
Speaker 3: just let me let me watch my team sports card.
Speaker 4: Rip it up, George, this is for the sports gud.
Speaker 2: You you be betting when you're betting, like.
Speaker 3: You said, you haven't, maybe all all start.
Speaker 2: It's like, George, here ten points in the fresh quarter,
Speaker 2: seventeen and a half.
Speaker 3: I got this, and in the fourth quarter you.
Speaker 4: Say, come on, come on please, He's right, He's right,
Speaker 4: it is what it is, right, Yeah, go ahead, right.
Speaker 5: So question for you, George, You know you sound like
Speaker 5: a pretty pretty superstitious sports god.
Speaker 3: Guy.
Speaker 5: Do you have like a do you have a routine
Speaker 5: before the Raiders play or like before you put in
Speaker 5: a like when you're watching a bet.
Speaker 4: I don't, but I do have. Yeah, I have my
Speaker 4: my chair where I watch the games. But as far
Speaker 4: as the Raiders, we always we always crossed the bridge,
Speaker 4: so we walk across and they have you know, it
Speaker 4: was last year. Actually they changed it now they did
Speaker 4: like a they have a marching band and we do
Speaker 4: the March of victory. But we never win, so I
Speaker 4: don't know why they call it the March of victory.
Speaker 4: But it was always we would walk on the same
Speaker 4: side of the you know, and it it never worked
Speaker 4: on the So at the certain area where you walk
Speaker 4: across this and it's a mile, it's it's a long
Speaker 4: walk in the stadium, you know. They blalk off the
Speaker 4: road and you you know, walk aross the bridge. Yeah,
Speaker 4: where do you say at Mandalay Bay right across?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well when you're in Vegas. You've been in to Vegas,
Speaker 2: I'm sure a few times. Will you see the strategy?
Speaker 4: Right? And you're like over here at an ex caliber
Speaker 4: or something that's like ten miles but you think it's
Speaker 4: just right there.
Speaker 3: I see it right, and then you walk you see
Speaker 3: what the hell am I doing? Right?
Speaker 9: Well?
Speaker 4: That exactly the raid the stadium and Mandalay Bay is
Speaker 4: the first hotel that the nearest one.
Speaker 3: And it's still a mile, it's still a way.
Speaker 2: No, I know I've walked that when the Arizona team
Speaker 2: played by you and two.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's right, Yeah it was you look, can you
Speaker 4: see it's just right there? No problem?
Speaker 3: What am I doing? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Exactly, Especially walking back after a lot, it's not fun. No, no,
Speaker 4: And you go to you don't go to all of them.
Speaker 3: Not all of them.
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, I gotta he gets the girl and take
Speaker 4: me with let's go. Yes, and I get rooms comped
Speaker 4: because I play, and and food comped. So it's yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: don't tell right to that.
Speaker 3: She's listening.
Speaker 4: I know she is Steve. She's a good girl. Yeah,
Speaker 4: she's a good girl. Okay, No, thanks for coming in todaysure, fine,
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 2: Anybody want to call for the last second shot you
Speaker 2: have it got about two to three minutes. Maybe get
Speaker 2: raised some practice here. We'll have tomorrow, we'll have Dave
Speaker 2: Silver comes back. We'll probably have you when you when
Speaker 2: you have a chance, if you're ready to come back
Speaker 2: next week. Chris, Chris was like a little boy here.
Speaker 9: It's just you.
Speaker 4: You know how he can't gets fired uf He's just
Speaker 4: got to have the juice man. Yeah, but he just
Speaker 4: got back into the cards here. He just disappointed him too, right.
Speaker 2: He thought he had like ten thousand dollars in no
Speaker 2: real he thought he come on, he was.
Speaker 3: Like coming more that Paul skin is a heartbreaker for it. Right,
Speaker 3: it's a great card. I mean it is low numbered,
Speaker 3: but yeah, three hundred dollars is good money.
Speaker 2: So so being a WWF guy is a tough wwt
Speaker 2: UFC is a tough way to make a living. Sports writing,
Speaker 2: it's tough way to make a living. Being a poke
Speaker 2: player is a tough way to make a living. Is
Speaker 2: just a tough way to make a living.
Speaker 3: Your card used to be believe it or not.
Speaker 4: You know, everybody thinks like, oh, George is making all
Speaker 4: this money and he's.
Speaker 3: Rich and all this.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 4: I've had the store twenty seven years. The first seventeen
Speaker 4: years I barely made a living. You know, it was
Speaker 4: and it just caught fire. Just caught fire, it really did.
Speaker 4: It started like in twenty sixteen, and we've been on
Speaker 4: a nice front. You were paying for the car. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that was the card gods. Absolutely, yeah, the card gods. Yeah,
Speaker 4: sacrificing some cards and okay, we got to go, okay,
Speaker 4: we're so good. And things helped to you know, like Pokemon.
Speaker 4: You know you have some locked along the way. You know,
Speaker 4: Pokemon was a Christmas toy that actually saved our store.
Speaker 4: Was a Christmas toy of two thousand. Now Pokemon's fire again.
Speaker 3: Well how does that happen? I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's just especially with Pokemon, that's kind of odd. You know,
Speaker 4: it's sports cards. You could see it. You know, you
Speaker 4: have a Lebron James or you know some of these
Speaker 4: greatest Otani.
Speaker 3: You know, these greatest players come in.
Speaker 4: Everybody wants their cards and wants to collect but with Pokemon,
Speaker 4: it's just something you.
Speaker 3: Know, culture.
Speaker 2: You gotta So if you if I found a card tomorrow,
Speaker 2: just bought one, whatever, how would I know it's any good?
Speaker 4: I mean, you just have to know which ones day.
Speaker 4: As far as Pokemon, yeah, you have to. Yeah, the
Speaker 4: Char's arts and the and the Pikachu's and all that.
Speaker 4: The one my son sold is is Pancho Pikachu. It's
Speaker 4: Pikachu and he's wearing like a hoodie a Pancho and
Speaker 4: that's that's the hot one. Every time you say Pikachu,
Speaker 4: I say, good bless you. I don't want to tell you.
Speaker 6: As soon as you started talking Pokemon, he turned what.
Speaker 4: The oh yeah, that's always became glassy.
Speaker 3: It was nothing to do with this.
Speaker 4: It was like last night's basketball game.
Speaker 3: Please tell me what to say. My son's listening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you want him to be in a pre
Speaker 2: Mets Yeah, and your and your ex wife is saying,
Speaker 2: don't George.
Speaker 4: Yeah what, don't even put ideas into them. I didn't
Speaker 4: raise him to become a you exactly.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 4: She said she was going to be a doctor, and
Speaker 4: she sacrificed her career to help me with the store,
Speaker 4: which is not true.
Speaker 3: She is a nurse practitioner. She's almost a.
Speaker 2: Diet but you know, talk to your attorney, sir. That's
Speaker 2: a that's a personal problem. Thanks everybody for coming on
Speaker 2: the show's fun Show today, Fun Yeah, yeah, we'll have
Speaker 2: you back again soon. Thank you, thank you. Kind of
Speaker 2: got the you got the job. Jack one's got the
Speaker 2: good teacher mode in him. Nice cause