WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.120 Is six oh six, and it is four days till 2 00:00:03.200 --> 00:00:07.719 vacation ross marked the advent calendar. Okay, all right, yeah, 3 00:00:07.759 --> 00:00:10.640 we're gonna be gone all next week, and I'm making 4 00:00:10.679 --> 00:00:12.919 a point to say it every day, so inevitably, when 5 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:15.919 you write me going you never said anything, you will 6 00:00:15.919 --> 00:00:20.239 be wrong and I will be right. Okay, good, good, good. 7 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:25.920 Now a thought exercise, shall we? I want you to 8 00:00:26.519 --> 00:00:35.560 pretend it's May nineteen forty. Okay, nineteenth May nineteen forty. 9 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:41.119 May nineteen forty was a very interesting time because it 10 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:49.240 completely dispelled us of the idea the Neville Chamberlain outlook. Okay, 11 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:53.399 and that was if Hitler just gets sued, Dayton gets 12 00:00:53.439 --> 00:00:58.039 the Rhineland, there's a couple of other things. He'll be fine, 13 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:01.520 everything's fine, nothing to see here. But by May of 14 00:01:01.640 --> 00:01:07.719 nineteen forty, Hitler took France and marched into Paris, right, 15 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:11.079 and at that point they're just like all right. And 16 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:13.719 then the Polish stuff was already happening, and it was 17 00:01:13.760 --> 00:01:18.480 wildly out of control by then. But you knew what 18 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:23.439 was up. You called it early, You pounded the table 19 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:28.159 with your rightness, and just how smart you were during 20 00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:33.400 the Night of Long Knives, during the aggression into Poland 21 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:40.719 into ordering the essentially the forest areas of France blockaded 22 00:01:40.799 --> 00:01:44.280 and partially occupied. Everyone knew what was coming up eventually, 23 00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:50.760 and you're right, You're just you say you're right, and 24 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:54.079 you would say that you're absolutely correct. Everything's panning out 25 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:56.680 how you thought you knew who he was, and you 26 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:02.400 shout to the world and you tell everyone, and then 27 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:07.319 he captures France in this little scenario. What do you do? 28 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:10.120 What do you do if you've been right all this 29 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:13.520 time and everyone should just believe you, and look at 30 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:16.360 look at these actions that prove this thing exactly as 31 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:20.759 I say they are. Well, you do what Morning Joe did, 32 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:23.479 and you go to the eagles and s by the 33 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:26.759 sea as his own television show has labeled it that 34 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:32.120 it would be mar A Lago And apparently apparently you 35 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:38.759 beg beg friendship of him. Oh yeah, yeah, this is 36 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:40.960 the thing that's going on. Let's check in real quick 37 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:44.120 with Mourning Joe and and how you how you remember 38 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:46.520 Morning Joe really most recently. 39 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:50.840 And then he says that the news network that that 40 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:54.199 is most critical of him should be taken off the air. 41 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:56.360 This is not a reach. I could go back and 42 00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:58.759 talk about Nazi Germany, and I do it. I do 43 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:01.759 it without any concerns whatsoever. And if people can't start 44 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:04.800 drawing the parallels, well you're just stupid, or you have 45 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:07.159 your head in the sand, or you're one of them. 46 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:09.439 Okay, all right, I just wanted I wanted to be 47 00:03:09.520 --> 00:03:14.199 clear he's used the Nazi rhetoric and it was Eli 48 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:17.080 mystical or whatever that that weird with the weird hair. 49 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:19.719 That's the guy who did the ego's Nest by the 50 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:24.520 Sea quote, while these two vapid idiots just boo yeah, 51 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:31.439 kind of fits. Well, some's changed And I just want 52 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:33.439 to know why you went to h went and had 53 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:35.719 dinner with Hitler man. What's up with them? 54 00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:38.159 The past week, Joe and I have heard from so 55 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:42.719 many people, from political leaders to regular citizens, deeply dismayed 56 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:47.840 by several of President Elect Trump's cabinet selections, and they 57 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:51.719 are scared. Last Thursday, we expressed our own concerns on 58 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:55.080 this broadcast and even said we would appreciate the opportunity 59 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:59.120 to speak with the President elect himself. On Friday, we 60 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:03.919 were given the opportunity to do just that. Joe and 61 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:07.240 I went to mar A Lago to meet personally with 62 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:11.639 President elect Trump. It was the first time we have 63 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:14.680 seen him in seven years now. 64 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:18.639 We talked about a lot of issues, including abortion, mass deportation, 65 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:23.160 threats of political retribution against political opponents, and media outlets. 66 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:24.600 We talked about that a good bit. 67 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:29.319 Good for you. Why is he carving out a minute 68 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:34.720 to meet with you other than and correct me if Ross, 69 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:37.120 what do you think of this? I think Trump's doing 70 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:43.120 it because it's a struggle session for him, because of 71 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:45.800 the fact. Do you remember when he first started running 72 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:48.519 these Nitwitz would have him on the show every morning. 73 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:52.920 He was calling into Morning Joe at the same rate 74 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:57.879 he was calling into Fox and Friends back in you know, 75 00:04:57.920 --> 00:05:01.000 back when he first announced he was running Why because 76 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:06.319 they were friends, they were more than friends. Is This 77 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:09.439 is something a lot of people don't remember, and probably 78 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:15.959 was pretty influential in how this relationship evolved. There was 79 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:25.519 a moment where apparently, and I don't know how serious 80 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:31.639 it was, there was a moment where that idiot referring 81 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:38.199 to Joe thought he was a contender for vice president 82 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:41.759 with Trump. You guys, I don't know if you remember this, 83 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:45.519 just for a moment, and then it became abundantly clear. 84 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:48.560 There was no way he was going to be the 85 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:52.839 vice presidential nomination, and then Trump wasn't on the show anymore, 86 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:57.240 Just to show you how self serving these people are. 87 00:05:57.839 --> 00:06:02.680 So now the media landscape is in a tailspin. This 88 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:08.959 is just reactionary to what's going on. The what's her bucket? 89 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:12.040 The suppose what are the supposed conservative the Ferret Fara 90 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:15.120 Griffith or whatever on the view Right, who then was like, 91 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:21.040 I'm conservative, but but all my thoughts are liberal. She 92 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:26.160 was talking yesterday about how she might switch back. Well, 93 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:28.480 why does that only come after we hear the view 94 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:31.959 might try to get quote more conservative voices on there. 95 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:37.399 CNN's about to do a reckoning, they've already started the process, 96 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:40.160 and MSNBC is going to be there as well. How 97 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:44.720 do you maintain your relevancy if those in charge are 98 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:49.000 rethinking the way that you're doing business, which apparently isn't 99 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:53.240 appealing to people they I saw a stat yesterday that morning, Joe. 100 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:56.000 Outside of its initial run, they rerun one of the 101 00:06:56.040 --> 00:07:02.439 hours and at one time all right, no, I'm sorry, 102 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:04.680 this is the this is the combined cube for the 103 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:08.560 entire hour. So this is dug in in the details, 104 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:11.680 it's the sample. It into quarter hours and then it's 105 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:19.040 a whole thing. But he had twenty eight thousand viewers 106 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:23.600 for a flagship national show. This is post election, This 107 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:26.560 is last last week and the last week. I think 108 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:29.120 the numbers are for I'll call him up Thursday or Friday, 109 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:33.600 one of the two days. Twenty eight thousand. You know 110 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:41.360 who has more than twenty eight thousand me us, Yeah, 111 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:44.920 believe it or not, there's enough gullible people in the 112 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:50.000 state of North Carolina to exceed that number, because that's 113 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:52.720 the other thing that Morning Shoe has said, if you 114 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:58.160 listen to talk radio, it's for the gullible. So and 115 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:02.839 now he's down. Now he's down at the he's down 116 00:08:02.879 --> 00:08:06.680 at Hitler's Mountain Retreat or in this case, ocean retwreat 117 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:14.680 retreat to hang with him. Absolutely just spineless, just some 118 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:16.399 of the most spineless stuff out there. 119 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:19.959 That's gonna come as no surprise to anybody who watches 120 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:23.560 this show, has watched it over the past year or 121 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:26.399 over the past decade, that we didn't see eye to 122 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:29.399 eye on a lot of issues, and we told him so. 123 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:33.799 What we did agree on was to restar our communications. 124 00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:37.159 My father often spoke with world leaders with whom he 125 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:42.559 in the United States profoundly disagreed. That's a task shared 126 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:46.840 by reporters and commentators alike. We had not spoken to 127 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:50.879 President Trump since March of twenty twenty, other than a 128 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:54.320 personal call Joe made to Trump on the morning after 129 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:57.000 the attempt on his life in Butler, Pennsylvania. 130 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:01.480 That's the scummier thing right now there. Man, Do you 131 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:04.480 think for a moment that Donald Trump, after he just 132 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:14.840 got shot, wants to talk to Morning Joe undeniably a 133 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:18.639 contributor to the very rhetoric we just played it for 134 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:24.120 you that a lot of people think may have infected 135 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:29.080 this dude's brain. And he calls him, he's like, oh 136 00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:34.559 that sucks. Man. Look, you made a decision, You have 137 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:37.559 a position. Doesn't mean you can be unyielding. But there's 138 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:42.080 no impetus for this. Arguably maybe the assassination was. But 139 00:09:42.159 --> 00:09:45.799 if you'd tempered your comments after that, doing some self reflection, 140 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:48.679 I'd have a lot of more respect for your position here. 141 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:54.279 But that Hitler cut, that Hitler cut is standard their 142 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:58.759 morning show. And you have the audacity to fly down 143 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:00.799 there and just be like, Hey, remember us, remember what 144 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:02.799 we used to be friends, because they did. They used 145 00:10:02.799 --> 00:10:05.519 to be friends, and then they decided for their own 146 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:07.200 career advance. But that's what they were going to do. 147 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:09.320 Now some people would point a Trump to go, well, 148 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:12.639 that's what he did during the primaries, you know, went 149 00:10:12.639 --> 00:10:16.679 after cruises, Dad, little Marco, all the rest of this stuff. 150 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:21.759 And now he's now he's working with him. If you 151 00:10:21.799 --> 00:10:24.840 see those situations, the same fine morning, Joe has spent 152 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:33.240 the last eight years calling this dude hitler, calling him Hitler, 153 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:36.799 and then he went and is, uh, what did you 154 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:38.840 ask me? Ross? Oh, if they went, how did they 155 00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:40.879 why did they get They were not on a secret 156 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:42.000 mission to destroy it? 157 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:43.879 No, no, no, no. It was an a at the end 158 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:46.080 of Band of Brothers where like they're like, you know, hey, 159 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:48.759 we're victorious. Let's drink all his wine. Was it like that? 160 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:51.200 I see I see the concrete here. Yeah, that is 161 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:53.639 a great scene, isn't it. They're just there because these 162 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:56.759 guys have basically been living off nothing, just fighting, right, 163 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:00.000 you know, they're just like, ah, we got a wine cellar. 164 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:03.320 Was amazing. No, do you remember the party that's going 165 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:04.679 on in Dirty Dozen? 166 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:05.559 Oh? 167 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:08.879 Yeah, okay, sure, yeah, they're at that party. Yeah, they're 168 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:12.000 at that party though, Well that's different. It is. Yeah, No, 169 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:14.120 that's that's that's what they wanted to do. They want 170 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:17.519 to they want to conquer it and drink the spoils. 171 00:11:17.559 --> 00:11:21.240 They just be ah, look I have an invite. So yeah, 172 00:11:21.399 --> 00:11:23.000 that's what you did. You went to the You went 173 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:25.879 to the Mountain Party right before the Dirty Dozen comes 174 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:30.919 flying through there. Spoiler not everyone makes it so, but hey, 175 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:35.919 they were given an opportunity and for their true selves emerge. 176 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:38.799 In this meeting. President Trump was tearful, he was upbeat. 177 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:44.080 He seemed interested in finding common ground with Democrats on 178 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:47.679 some of the most divisive issues. And for those asking 179 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:51.080 why we would go speak to the president elect during 180 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:54.759 such fraught times, especially between US, I guess I would 181 00:11:54.759 --> 00:12:00.480 ask back, why wouldn't we? Five years of political warfare 182 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:03.639 has deeply divided Washington in the country, we have been 183 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:07.799 as clear as we know how in expressing our deep 184 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:11.879 concerns about President Trump's actions and words in the coursening 185 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:18.399 of public debate. But for eighty million Americans, election denialism 186 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:22.240 public trials in January sixth were not as important as 187 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:26.559 the issues that moved them to send Donald Trump back 188 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:28.279 to the White House with their vote. 189 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:32.159 This is still and you notice that's still a she's 190 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:36.000 not recognizing the problem. She's just like everything we said 191 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:39.679 is legit and you didn't listen. So we'll do this 192 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:42.559 other thing, never stopping for a moment ago. I don't know, 193 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:49.000 maybe maybe saying that this is the greatest what was 194 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:55.519 the greatest attack on America since the Civil War? I 195 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:58.360 think maybe he could come off that position because there's 196 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:02.879 some some people. There are people still alive today, believe 197 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:05.639 it or not, myself included, who were around for nine 198 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:09.639 to eleven. Yeah, we still still walk the earth for 199 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:11.879 a little time. So Ross, I believe you were alive 200 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:14.279 during nine to eleven, weren't you? So that's like two 201 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:17.600 of us. Yeah. So when we hear all this stuff 202 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:20.240 and now you're still not correcting yourself and whatever this is. 203 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:26.919 Pounds sand Lady Joe, and I realize it's time to 204 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:30.519 do something different, and that starts with not only talking 205 00:13:30.679 --> 00:13:34.440 about Donald Trump, but also talking with him. 206 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:38.919 Right, okay, all right, so anyway, all right, let me 207 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:42.440 let me not be cynical on this. Maybe this is 208 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:45.919 the alive branch of diplomacy and people, you know, and 209 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:51.639 maybe in some leftist circles, those who actually watch Morning Joe, 210 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:55.600 not just for lulls. Maybe they go, you know what, 211 00:13:55.679 --> 00:13:59.639 maybe I'm maybe I'm being a little harsh here at 212 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:01.559 the very at least, maybe I should hear what he 213 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:03.879 has to say, or at least try to understand all 214 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:05.240 aspects of the story. 215 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:06.759 Uh. 216 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:09.879 In fact, Ross, you checked over on Blue Sky. Right, 217 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:12.200 Let's see how it's going over there on Blue Sky 218 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:12.799 because of this. 219 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:23.759 Oh yeah, yeah, so they're not dealing with it well 220 00:14:23.759 --> 00:14:26.679 over at liberal echo chamber. 221 00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:29.200 Did I think the trolls are going over there too? 222 00:14:29.879 --> 00:14:32.639 I mean that's a shame. What do you mean that 223 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:36.519 they're leaving Twitter and acts and they're hanging out over there, and. 224 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:39.279 Then the trolls are following. Yeah, they can just they're 225 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:42.399 like testing hashtags over there. They're like, so yesterday they 226 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:44.960 want to see how long two genders would last. What 227 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:49.600 was it about thirty seconds? Wade about thirty seconds? So 228 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:53.559 uh yeah, so you may get rid. Now here's the thing. 229 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:56.200 I don't want red of the lunatics. I want my 230 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:59.799 job made easy. Leave them on the Twitter, leave them 231 00:14:59.879 --> 00:15:02.919 or I can see him crying because they went on 232 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:05.840 a dating app for a random hookup with some dude 233 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:08.960 who they don't even know, and they were cool with 234 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:11.399 all of that. They probably would have been cool without 235 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:14.399 knowing his name, but as soon as they found out 236 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:16.840 who he voted for, she got the super case of 237 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:19.720 the IX and started made a video bawling like I 238 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:24.159 don't want to lose that. Don't take that away from me. 239 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:26.240 But if they're going to leave to go over there, 240 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:28.240 and then the trolls are going to go over to 241 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:31.200 follow for a little while and it all gets reported 242 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:33.559 back to like libs of Blue Sky, which is a 243 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:37.279 Twitter account I couldn't follow fast enough over the weekend. 244 00:15:38.320 --> 00:15:43.240 Then I'm good on all this stuff. And morning Joe 245 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:51.840 and them going over and literally going to Hitler's house. Right, 246 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:54.360 you're the people at the Dirty Dozen part, you know what, 247 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:59.600 You're the people with the good seats at the movie 248 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:04.120 you know which movie theater I'm referring to. All Right, 249 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:06.720 we'll be back. You think about that, Well, what's your 250 00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:08.120 I do not understand what your problem. 251 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:10.559 Kyle Wilson, you know news talking about how they're still 252 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:12.840 counting votes in Northampton County, and I just, yeah, I 253 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:17.440 was impossible, because like it's very big, it is very big. 254 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:17.639 Yeah. 255 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:23.240 Yeah, you drive from you know, Jackson to Gaston to 256 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:28.279 trying to remember other towns in Northampton case, it's very big. 257 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:32.320 It's a you know, you gotta saddle the horse, take 258 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:38.600 your ballad over there. Yeah, dude, there's some there's some crazy, 259 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:42.000 uh crazy long vote counting going on. Yeah, and they're 260 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:45.919 flipping races in some places. And you know, I don't 261 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:50.279 let it leave the don't let it leave the conscious 262 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:57.799 of of everyone. What happened in New in New Hanover County, Like, 263 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:02.279 I think it's somebody may have done something illegal with 264 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:06.920 them just stopping counting votes, which is a thing that 265 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:11.200 we've seen now, and whether it was intentional or not intentional, 266 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:14.440 like they didn't know that they couldn't stop. And I'm 267 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:17.680 still trying to fully understand what's going on there, but 268 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:23.039 I do plan on once things kind of settle where 269 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:25.799 they are, because it doesn't look like they're going to 270 00:17:25.839 --> 00:17:29.200 flip anything in there, then maybe I'll try to find 271 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:33.880 somebody who's smart enough to explain it to me, because 272 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:37.559 that's a mess. And yes, in Northampton County in California, 273 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:39.920 they had a race that's going to flip a red 274 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:43.440 seat for the first time. In forever and the person 275 00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:47.039 was winning, winning, winning, and then just the other day 276 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:50.400 they found some ballots and now the other person, the Democrats, 277 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:53.119 winning by I think thirty one votes, who then immediately 278 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:55.599 goes on into Claire's victory even though they're still quote 279 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:59.799 unquote counting, goes on into Claire's victory and people will 280 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:05.839 putish and back are being labeled election deniers. So I 281 00:18:05.839 --> 00:18:09.039 don't know, man, but it'll be interesting to see if 282 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:11.599 this all this stuff is still on the radar when 283 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:17.920 January twentieth rolls around, Because what the hell, man, By 284 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:23.640 the way, the population of Northampton County wouldn't fill a 285 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:30.079 smidgeon of the wolf Pack football stadium when Carter Carter 286 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:39.559 Finley the entire population wide of the NC state football 287 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:43.160 they have sixteen thousand, seven hundred people there. U Because, 288 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:44.880 like you said, I've spent a fair amount of time 289 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:47.079 there and it's just like there's not much there and 290 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:49.240 it's not an insult to the people or anything like 291 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:51.759 it's a rural county. We had a bunch of them 292 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:52.559 in North Carolina. 293 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:54.400 Yeah, like you said, you had Jackson and then you 294 00:18:54.440 --> 00:18:58.480 got what is it like rich Skar or rapids right 295 00:18:58.559 --> 00:18:59.680 up there. There's nothing there. 296 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:02.200 Man, is Richland's in there? Yeah? Maybe I don't know that. 297 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:05.279 Maybe a little further far south, but yeah, yeah, there's 298 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:09.759 not much there. Again, not an insult. It's a rural county. 299 00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:13.519 We got a bunch of them. What's up? What's going on? 300 00:19:13.720 --> 00:19:16.079 I think Gaston would have to be the largest community there. 301 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:23.960 Spent some time up in that direction. So what what 302 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:25.920 what are we doing? Are you dealing? Are we dealing 303 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:30.039 with counties that are just not prepared to prosecute their 304 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:34.599 task so to speak, or what you know. One of 305 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:40.880 the one of the more interesting conversations that I, uh 306 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:43.640 have had the privilege of having is when I first 307 00:19:43.880 --> 00:19:47.759 started here. So I mean, we're going back. This would 308 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:52.680 be probably before we added Greensboro, because we launched these 309 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:58.440 two Raleigh in Greensboro stations simultaneously. But initially in Greensboro 310 00:19:58.599 --> 00:20:01.920 they had they had two other hosts. They had Bill Flynn, 311 00:20:01.960 --> 00:20:05.119 who was a staple of the triad good Dude, and 312 00:20:05.759 --> 00:20:08.759 they had a guy they brought in from Pennsylvania by 313 00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:12.640 the name of Dmitri Vassileros. And I remember working with 314 00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:15.519 Dmitri just kind of going, you know, because he was 315 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:17.599 new to North Carolina. Hears some of the stuff we're 316 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:20.640 doing and and you know, for whatever reason, that didn't work. 317 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:26.039 And then this show. So this would have been prior 318 00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:27.799 to that this, I would have been so wet behind 319 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:31.559 the ears. And I got the station wanted me to 320 00:20:31.640 --> 00:20:35.039 go to a luncheon, and so I'd show up at 321 00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:37.359 this lunch and and we got reserve seating. It's at 322 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:42.039 the Cardinal Club, which was in the Wells Fargo Tower. 323 00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:44.640 They have like a supper club thing up there is 324 00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:48.279 the Cardinal that one well whatever. So I go in 325 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:52.240 there and I recognize a lot of different people, even 326 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:54.839 though I am fresh to North Carolina. I recognize a 327 00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:57.839 couple of members of Congress and then they they sit 328 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:00.359 me at a table and they introduced me to who 329 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:05.839 I'm sitting next to, and it was former North Carolina 330 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:13.160 Republican Governor James Holshauser. Holshauser probably mispronounce it. And we 331 00:21:13.279 --> 00:21:15.960 just we just got to talking right, tell me about 332 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:19.519 North Carolina. And the dude was he was so nice, 333 00:21:20.279 --> 00:21:23.119 like sitting there and he you could tell he really 334 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:27.200 loved telling me stuff about North Carolina. And then I 335 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:29.440 you know, we're talking about election stuff and all that, 336 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:31.759 and he's telling me about how it used to be 337 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:35.119 with elections in North Carolina. We're like ballots bucket, you know, 338 00:21:35.279 --> 00:21:38.079 piles of ballots would end up in people's barns, and 339 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:41.079 then the barnes would accidentally catch fire. Ross. Don't you 340 00:21:41.119 --> 00:21:43.839 hate that when you're in charge of storing ballots in 341 00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:46.119 your in your barn you don't care about anymore, and 342 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:50.039 it just accidentally catches fire the ballots from a part 343 00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:51.519 of the place you weren't going. 344 00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:52.880 To get it is bad, But where are you supposed 345 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:54.640 to keep them? Where else are you gonna be? 346 00:21:54.680 --> 00:21:59.559 And if not, the uh, the tender kindling that is 347 00:21:59.559 --> 00:22:03.039 your barn. No, it's absolutely like he's not saying he 348 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:04.920 did that. He's just like, you have no idea how 349 00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:08.240 crazy it was at one time. And remember he served 350 00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:12.319 in what he served in the seventies. So I'm talking 351 00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:16.400 to this guy thirty years removed from office. But I'm 352 00:22:16.480 --> 00:22:17.839 just like, that's crazy, man. 353 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:19.880 I want to correct myself, I said, richly. I met 354 00:22:19.920 --> 00:22:22.000 rich Square, which is right down the street from Jackson. 355 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:25.759 Oh it's been like twenty years, so yeah, no, no, no, no, 356 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:28.480 I'm trying to just off memory. But I looked it 357 00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:31.000 up to correct myself because he's driving me nuts. Population 358 00:22:31.119 --> 00:22:35.079 at the moment, oh eight hundred and ninety four people. 359 00:22:35.839 --> 00:22:41.039 That's the line for beer at Carter Findley Stadium. They 360 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:43.519 can manage that. I'm sorry, I'm just using that as 361 00:22:43.519 --> 00:22:45.640 my point of reference because it's the stadium I've spent 362 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:49.599 the most time in the in the state. So by 363 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:52.839 if NC State can facilitate seating a third of their 364 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:54.960 stadium or I guess I'm trying to think with the 365 00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:58.200 capacity is that's probably about it. A third of their stadium. 366 00:22:58.359 --> 00:23:06.440 You can't handle getting ballots in two weeks, dude, And 367 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:10.720 if you think that's inefficient, we're gonna find we hopefully 368 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:14.359 will find out things today. Although wait to hear who's 369 00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:19.680 on the schedule for the FEMA oversight hearing thing that's 370 00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:22.480 happening up in DC today. I know all the pub's 371 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:26.839 going to be the FEMA director Chiswell or Chizwell or whatever, 372 00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:32.519 and that's great, but there's also a couple members of 373 00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:36.359 Congress on there, and I cannot understand why one of 374 00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:40.720 them is on there except to come in and essentially 375 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:46.839 argue that everything's fine. But everything's not fine. And anyone 376 00:23:46.880 --> 00:23:51.960 who spends a minute on Twitter or perhaps just maybe 377 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:54.359 on Facebook, you might see it for they take it down, 378 00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:59.359 knows that it's not fine, And I will give you 379 00:23:59.400 --> 00:24:04.400 some exams of that. A key one is I saw 380 00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:07.799 a dude who was filming a video's standing in downtown Swannanoah, 381 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:11.279 which if you've ever been there, the reason you go 382 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:15.720 to Swananoah is vacation. They got cool shops, there's some 383 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:19.680 great restaurants. There's about seventy two thousand amazing golf courses 384 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:23.119 just in that vicinity. Really a jewel of what North 385 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:27.559 Carolina offers that I don't think everybody's really keyed in 386 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:31.400 on yet. And I'm also kind of okay with that, okay, right, 387 00:24:31.480 --> 00:24:33.799 because you see what happens to blowing rock when the 388 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:37.119 leaves do their thing. Ashville can just be insane at times, 389 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:40.200 you know, but a good insane. You know, up there 390 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:42.759 in Boon it gets a little crazy, But you know, 391 00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:46.359 Swananoa and the areas around it, there's some really cool 392 00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:50.880 spots there, and there's money. There's clearly money in the 393 00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:53.680 area if you've ever been there, which is why you've 394 00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:57.680 got seventy two thousand amazing golf courses. Some some really 395 00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:03.079 awesome hotels, resort and it's it's just really great stuff. 396 00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:07.440 But it's but it's not what it is right now. 397 00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:12.160 As the guy spins around, it looks like it looks 398 00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:17.039 it looks like a campground. It looks like you you know, 399 00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:19.119 you're down at one of the big beach campgrounds. You're 400 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:21.559 up at Price, uh near Blowing Rock there where I 401 00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:23.359