1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: So another question is, if you could do American Chopper 2 00:00:08,679 --> 00:00:14,679 again from the start, would you do anything different? I mean, 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,960 that's hard to send. That's a lot. 4 00:00:20,679 --> 00:00:23,719 Speaker 2: I don't know, probably not. I mean I wouldn't know, 5 00:00:24,879 --> 00:00:27,960 you know, it's kind of a mood point question because 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,480 it's in the past. I think we were just like 7 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,399 we were just like on this crazy ride, so you know, 8 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,320 we were like flying by the seat of our pants 9 00:00:40,359 --> 00:00:43,799 for like the first five years, right, So I can't 10 00:00:43,799 --> 00:00:46,200 see how I would like go back and like critique 11 00:00:46,439 --> 00:00:49,560 like maybe decisions that I made or things I did, 12 00:00:49,679 --> 00:00:54,520 because it doesn't it seems pointless. And I don't know, 13 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,840 I don't think I would have had the wherewithal to 14 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,840 do something different. Is there anything that I have like 15 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:04,519 a major regret for it? Not really, you know, personally, 16 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:06,400 I would have liked for me and my father to 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:13,680 get along more often than we did, right, And it's 18 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,879 not even to get along. I think it's the overall 19 00:01:16,079 --> 00:01:20,319 dynamic between us, the relationship. So but it was what 20 00:01:20,359 --> 00:01:23,200 it was, and it actually the things that a lot 21 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,200 of people look at and go geez, that was really 22 00:01:25,239 --> 00:01:27,239 tough is what they. 23 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: Were watching for. 24 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,359 Speaker 2: So they may even sympathize with what I had to 25 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,159 deal with in my father, with his outbursts or you 26 00:01:35,159 --> 00:01:38,480 know acting, you know, screaming and yelling and all that stuff. 27 00:01:39,159 --> 00:01:42,879 But they couldn't stop watching, you know. So It's like 28 00:01:43,879 --> 00:01:46,480 and even me now, as much as that was hard 29 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,200 for me as a younger person, right when we still 30 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,400 had a real father son dynamic like that, now I 31 00:01:52,439 --> 00:01:55,000 look back and go, geez man, I don't think I 32 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,079 don't think it would have been as good, right if 33 00:01:57,079 --> 00:01:57,840 we didn't argue. 34 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: And to that point, even having no control over editing, 35 00:02:01,439 --> 00:02:03,799 all the things that you would have taken out would 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,519 have completely changed. You know, you wouldn't have shown half 37 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,680 the things if it was up to you. That's truly 38 00:02:08,719 --> 00:02:10,639 at the time, and that's what kind of made us 39 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:11,319 so dynamic. 40 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I don't think a lot of people 41 00:02:13,319 --> 00:02:17,439 understand that when the show was done, every episode from 42 00:02:17,719 --> 00:02:21,840 the very first pilot to the very last show we did, 43 00:02:23,199 --> 00:02:25,639 we never had control over any editing. 44 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 3: Now we saw it. 45 00:02:27,159 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: When you did, when the people watched it on Monday 46 00:02:29,719 --> 00:02:31,759 nights at nine o'clock, was the first time we were 47 00:02:31,759 --> 00:02:34,919 seeing anything. We never got looks, we never got anything 48 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,080 sent to us and say, is this okay, and you know, 49 00:02:38,199 --> 00:02:40,360 they put it chock full of all the fights that 50 00:02:40,439 --> 00:02:42,599 happened that three or four weeks it took to do 51 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,719 the episode right. So man, yeah, I would say that 52 00:02:47,599 --> 00:02:49,879 I would quite often watch the show and not be happy, 53 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,759 right and just because well, for a number of reasons. A. 54 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,439 I didn't like the way things were looking at times, right, 55 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,800 or I felt like, man, they left out some really 56 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,000 good stuff, like fab wise, something. 57 00:03:01,879 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: That's always hard to because there is so much that 58 00:03:04,039 --> 00:03:05,840 goes into it. So if there's certain parts that you 59 00:03:05,879 --> 00:03:07,960 feel like are very important to the build and it 60 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,800 doesn't make it, that's like where it can be frustrating 61 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:11,240 for sure. 62 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 3: Exactly. 63 00:03:12,199 --> 00:03:15,039 Speaker 2: You know, the truth is in editing, they're trying to 64 00:03:15,039 --> 00:03:18,199 make a television show. A lot of our episodes were 65 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,159 two hours long. 66 00:03:19,319 --> 00:03:22,199 Speaker 1: A noow, how much filming goes into that one hour. 67 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,840 It's like a month's worth of filming. 68 00:03:25,039 --> 00:03:25,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. 69 00:03:26,159 --> 00:03:28,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I think when the when the rubber 70 00:03:28,199 --> 00:03:30,360 meets the road and they're trying to put an episode 71 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,479 together and maybe they're getting behind and they need to 72 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,719 have deliverables, stuff gets lost. Now, even a one hour 73 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,719 episode is probably edited to like two hours, and then 74 00:03:41,759 --> 00:03:43,319 they got to cut an hour out of it, so 75 00:03:43,319 --> 00:03:44,319 they got to take a two. 76 00:03:44,159 --> 00:03:46,599 Speaker 1: Hour forty four minutes with commercials. 77 00:03:46,159 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: Right right, forty four minutes with commercials. But you know 78 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,400 what I'm saying, they have this big episode and then 79 00:03:51,439 --> 00:03:53,560 they just have to whittle away at it to make 80 00:03:53,879 --> 00:03:56,879 one great episode for forty four minutes or or whatever. 81 00:03:56,919 --> 00:03:59,439 You know what I'm saying. So I think like that 82 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:01,879 was a lot. We had a lot of content. They 83 00:04:01,919 --> 00:04:05,360 had like five cameras, we filmed around the clock. I mean, 84 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,680 how much footage can you keep track of, even if 85 00:04:07,719 --> 00:04:08,840 you have a bunch of editors. 86 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:09,479 Speaker 3: It's a lot. 87 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: So quite often, you know, I'd cease, like a build 88 00:04:12,879 --> 00:04:15,080 and think, man, that that wheel is going to be 89 00:04:15,159 --> 00:04:17,519 like this big feature on it, and it was like 90 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,680 a blip or barely mentioned, and I'm like. 91 00:04:19,639 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 3: That whole wheel thing. We did that for days. 92 00:04:21,879 --> 00:04:24,639 Speaker 2: The thing was there was all this great content around it. 93 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,560 So that was a little frustrating, but you know, again, 94 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,879 they were doing the best that they could with all 95 00:04:30,959 --> 00:04:33,759 the content that they had, and truthfully, they had a 96 00:04:33,759 --> 00:04:37,399 lot of goods. There was never junk. It was never 97 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,040 like what are we going to do with this? It 98 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,600 was like, we have so much of it. You know, 99 00:04:41,639 --> 00:04:46,160 they probably could have done two hour episodes every time easily. 100 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,079 Easily they could have. They could And quite often I'd 101 00:04:49,079 --> 00:04:50,959 be like talk with the editors. I'd be like, hey, 102 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,079 what happened with it? And they're like, we just we 103 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,160 got it down to like we had to let we 104 00:04:56,199 --> 00:04:58,680 had to cut it. Yeah, So that's just the nature 105 00:04:58,759 --> 00:05:00,959 of it. I think I would have liked to seen 106 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,519 different things through the years. And then you know, oh man, 107 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,439 when it became senior versus junior, I feel like the editing, 108 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,600 oh man, people got creative because they have so much 109 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:14,600 of our footage, and so sometimes then they. 110 00:05:14,519 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: Had double the footage. Think about it, you have two shops, 111 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,959 both filming for an entire month to create that still 112 00:05:20,079 --> 00:05:22,120 one hour episode, so and then you have to get 113 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,399 two stories within that one hour. So I feel like 114 00:05:24,439 --> 00:05:26,959 that's when it got like. We would watch it when 115 00:05:26,959 --> 00:05:29,600 it would come out, and all you were like looking 116 00:05:29,639 --> 00:05:31,720 for is just make sure that the story was told, 117 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,279 that your client was shown that you know, there was 118 00:05:34,399 --> 00:05:36,720 enough in there that made sense to you know, out 119 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,079 a full situation in the build. 120 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,519 Speaker 3: And we always got screwed a little bit. 121 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,199 Speaker 1: Sometimes we would check the time. 122 00:05:43,079 --> 00:05:45,319 Speaker 2: We would always check the time, so if it was 123 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,680 forty four minutes, I would watch, like OCC's build get 124 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,839 like thirty, yeah, like thirty, and we would get like 125 00:05:52,319 --> 00:05:54,199 and then there would be like an outside event which 126 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,399 I'm in, but it's not my client, and all of 127 00:05:56,399 --> 00:05:59,319 a sudden, like my build is like, you know, twelve 128 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,759 minutes too of the whole episode, and occ we'd get 129 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,199 thirty minutes, you know. 130 00:06:05,879 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: And we were just up against that all the time 131 00:06:07,759 --> 00:06:08,279 because you. 132 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,959 Speaker 2: Know, it started with them and it was never going 133 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,360 to not be in their favor, right of course, and 134 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,720 so but I was I was glad to have that 135 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,839 aspect of things. And it was so frustrating because in 136 00:06:19,879 --> 00:06:22,800 my opinion, our bikes were so much better than theirs, 137 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,759 and our process was so much better, but they showed 138 00:06:25,759 --> 00:06:27,600 a lot less of us than the other side. 139 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 3: And that was my that was my feeling, you know. 140 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:32,399 Speaker 2: And then it might have been a little hyper sensitive 141 00:06:32,439 --> 00:06:35,199 because here I am, like, you know, the client is 142 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,240 expecting a certain thing. I have high expectations for what 143 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,639 they're gonna get, but really have no control over what 144 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,639 they're going to get. So that was a little frustrating 145 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,639 at times. I had to make some phone calls about 146 00:06:45,639 --> 00:06:48,399 that and freak out on some people occasionally and be like, 147 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:49,720 what what's going on here? 148 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 3: You know, but they didn't never cared. No one ever 149 00:06:52,639 --> 00:06:56,720 cares about that stuff. They're like, shut up, you know, yeah, 150 00:06:56,759 --> 00:06:59,160 shut up and build bikes. Do what we tell you. 151 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: So, yeah, that was a little frustrating at times, but 152 00:07:03,199 --> 00:07:05,800 you know, but at the same time we really shined. 153 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,399 I felt like, especially in Senior versus Junior, we really 154 00:07:09,519 --> 00:07:13,680 were determined not to feed into the negativity and we 155 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,639 really stayed the course, and I think that was hard 156 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,800 for production. Yeah, I think production was looking for more 157 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,319 battles between us. In fairness, it makes good television at 158 00:07:23,399 --> 00:07:26,839 least in their minds, and we weren't really confronting occ 159 00:07:27,079 --> 00:07:29,800 We were just trying to build a business, and they 160 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,680 were wanting us to go to bloody war. 161 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,279 Speaker 1: Or respond to something that had happened, and we were 162 00:07:35,319 --> 00:07:37,600 just trying to keep working. 163 00:07:37,759 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: We were trying to do the right thing, frankly, we 164 00:07:39,839 --> 00:07:42,199 really were, and we did and I think that got 165 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,480 frustrating for the network as well as production at times. 166 00:07:47,279 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: So I think. 167 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: People could do like some word play, you know, like 168 00:07:50,199 --> 00:07:52,879 you have a million zillion hours of me saying everything 169 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,319 and anything, so you could take something my father says 170 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,879 and then maybe drop something. And I said earlier that 171 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,959 day that might have a response that you're looking for. 172 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,439 And I'm not even saying like a lot of that 173 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,319 went on, but occasionally I was like. 174 00:08:06,439 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: I don't I don't think I in that moment, out 175 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,240 of context something. Yeah. 176 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:13,959 Speaker 1: Only but that that's always the big thing, especially with editing. 177 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,759 They can't make you say something you didn't actually say. 178 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: That's true. 179 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,319 Speaker 2: They can make things a little funny, but but but 180 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:22,199 certainly not. 181 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:23,199 Speaker 3: And I feel like. 182 00:08:24,759 --> 00:08:26,759 Speaker 2: I don't know, there's things that I won't even talk 183 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,279 about because it just doesn't make any sense, you know. 184 00:08:29,839 --> 00:08:34,840 But but but but overall great experience. Production was great. 185 00:08:34,879 --> 00:08:39,960 Discovery fantastic to work with, and we were just juggernauts 186 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:45,840 over there, Yeah, just pumping out marketing and advertising for 187 00:08:45,919 --> 00:08:48,120 these guys like nobody's business. 188 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,639 Speaker 3: The ad sales we brought to Discovery was just I 189 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,080 mean it had to be to the tune one hundreds 190 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,639 of millions of dollars worth of advertising around our show 191 00:08:57,759 --> 00:09:01,159 that was already built in and then and we brought 192 00:09:01,159 --> 00:09:03,600 in all these big brands and they had to spend 193 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:09,039 money on advertising across across all of the shows that 194 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,320 Discovery have or the sorry, the networks that Discovery had, TLC, Discovering, 195 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:18,080 all the you know, all these subsidiaries of Discovery, So 196 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,759 which is fine. And we did you know, in the 197 00:09:20,879 --> 00:09:21,480 introm we. 198 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: Did very well for ourselves too, So it was a 199 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,879 pretty big phenomenon the whole thing. 200 00:09:26,919 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: I don't even know how. 201 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: We got here, but this I don't know either. Oh 202 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:36,399 what would you go back and change anything? Apparently apparently 203 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,519 the answer is yes, But no, it's all good. 204 00:09:40,039 --> 00:09:41,279 Speaker 3: I'm just it's funny. 205 00:09:41,039 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: Because we're having these conversations and I'm just reflecting back 206 00:09:43,919 --> 00:09:47,000 and yeah, you know, it's been a minute from those 207 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,720 earlier days, and gosh, even watching the episodes is bringing 208 00:09:51,759 --> 00:09:55,879 me back into like remembering situations from that time period 209 00:09:55,919 --> 00:09:58,039 that I never that I ain't never think about. It's 210 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,399 not a part of my life anymore. 211 00:09:59,440 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: Like that. 212 00:09:59,799 --> 00:10:01,799 Speaker 1: You how do you feel them? 213 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: I love it? I love it. It's a little strange. 214 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I can't stand to like see myself 215 00:10:09,399 --> 00:10:11,080 or hear myself. I'm like I sound like that. 216 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:13,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's I think that's a lot of people, 217 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,960 you know, I like, I like the sound of my voice. Now, 218 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,600 that's not really true, but I know what you're saying. 219 00:10:20,639 --> 00:10:23,320 You know, I most people, I mean back in the day, 220 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,679 the first early episodes, I'm talking like, I don't. I 221 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,440 can't even do my voice from back then. It's very slow, 222 00:10:29,519 --> 00:10:32,279 and I'm like, I don't. I'm like horser, probably because 223 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,200 I'm older, right, but I had like a higher pitch voice, 224 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,399 and I don't know, man, we were watching it the 225 00:10:37,399 --> 00:10:39,799 other day and I'm like, who are these guys talking 226 00:10:39,879 --> 00:10:43,360 with this high pitch? So, you know, when you look 227 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,360 back on that time period, it's just a totally different person. 228 00:10:47,519 --> 00:10:49,320 I can't describe it any other way. And the more 229 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,279 I watch it, the more I realize that I don't 230 00:10:51,279 --> 00:10:52,200 even know that guy. 231 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 3: You know. 232 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,279 Speaker 2: Yeah so, But but it's interesting, you know, because it's 233 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,399 it's bringing up some different thoughts. I love the interaction. 234 00:10:59,519 --> 00:10:59,919 Speaker 3: I love one. 235 00:10:59,919 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: I watched the show and we're interacting and it's me 236 00:11:02,279 --> 00:11:04,720 and Michael and we're like so young, and then Vin 237 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,759 comes around the corner and like, you know, and we're 238 00:11:07,759 --> 00:11:10,559 building the fire bike or the you know whatever. I 239 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,799 would just watched that the fire bike episode. But Super 240 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:19,360 good Man really really feel grateful for the show. It's 241 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,919 recorded my history in a very professional way. The storytelling 242 00:11:24,039 --> 00:11:28,039 is excellent, in part because we told a fantastic story, 243 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,639 but they also captured that story. They put the music 244 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,639 to it. Even though it's a little antiquated and older, 245 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,960 it's still fun to watch. Ye, And they really did 246 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,399 a great job of storytelling with our show. And so 247 00:11:39,519 --> 00:11:41,399 that is there forever and ever and ever. 248 00:11:41,879 --> 00:11:43,879 Speaker 3: And it holds up. See, that's the thing. 249 00:11:43,919 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 2: And it's not because I'm in it, because if I 250 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,720 didn't think it held up anymore, I would be the 251 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:48,639 first one to say, you. 252 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 3: Know, it was good. But it still is good. It 253 00:11:51,879 --> 00:11:52,360 really is. 254 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: Even the pre high definition stuff, which is like all 255 00:11:56,759 --> 00:12:01,320 of our first season, it holds up. Man, go it's fantastic. 256 00:12:01,399 --> 00:12:05,399 It's funny. It's fun My father's funny, Michael's funny. I'm 257 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,559 saying stuff. We're and we're building killer stuff. There's never 258 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,200 been a show like that before, not in not since. 259 00:12:12,279 --> 00:12:14,519 I mean, think about it, There's never been a show 260 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,440 like American Choppers since, not anywhere, not anyhow, no one's 261 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,440 ever done not fast and let none of these guys 262 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,240 really did what we did for television, you know, and 263 00:12:24,279 --> 00:12:28,279 which is really create a whole genre of television called docudrama. 264 00:12:28,399 --> 00:12:31,799 So we brought in this whole new look, you know, 265 00:12:32,639 --> 00:12:37,279 of reality television and then pretty knowingly unknowingly. Yeah, we 266 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,159 didn't set out to do it, and I think that's 267 00:12:39,159 --> 00:12:41,759 what made it so great. It was no intention on 268 00:12:41,799 --> 00:12:44,600 our part. We were just building bikes. We were carrying 269 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:47,759 on that way, goofing off. We know how to have fun, 270 00:12:47,919 --> 00:12:49,039 and it translated. 271 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 272 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 273 00:12:51,279 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 2: So one of the questions I was looking through earlier 274 00:12:55,039 --> 00:12:57,840 is someone asked, what am I like as a dad? 275 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: You are like the older brother that Hudson never wanted. 276 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:04,879 Speaker 3: Or did want or. 277 00:13:04,879 --> 00:13:06,919 Speaker 1: Did or who knows. I feel like I'm always yelling 278 00:13:06,919 --> 00:13:08,919 at the both of you. I'm like, stop wrestling. Someone's 279 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,360 going to get hurt. I feel like you're an excellent dad, 280 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:12,919 honestly that thank you. You know. 281 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:13,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I try. 282 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,639 Speaker 2: I got my imperfections, you know. I find that I 283 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,799 have some bad habits from maybe my upbringing at times, 284 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,240 but not for the most part. 285 00:13:22,519 --> 00:13:23,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 286 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,039 Speaker 2: The one thing I do to overcome any of my shortcomings, 287 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,679 which trust me, I have him, is love on that 288 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:31,720 kid twenty four to seven. Yeah, I just love on them, 289 00:13:31,799 --> 00:13:34,159 I know, and I'll tell you it covers. 290 00:13:33,879 --> 00:13:35,759 Speaker 1: A lot of things mothered with love from the two 291 00:13:35,759 --> 00:13:36,039 of us. 292 00:13:36,159 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: He really is and he handles it really well. You 293 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:44,279 could see he has great confidence when he's away from us. Yeah, 294 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,320 he's very comfortable with who he is. There's some real 295 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,039 values that come out of giving that kid love like that, 296 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,080 you know, because life is tough and he's now ten 297 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,639 years old and there's all these things happening in his life, 298 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,840 and it's like, I feel like that respect of what 299 00:14:00,879 --> 00:14:04,080 we've instilled in him, it really translates. Plus, he's a 300 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,080 great kid. You know, he's got a great personality. So 301 00:14:08,159 --> 00:14:10,200 I think we're doing a pretty good job with that kid. 302 00:14:10,279 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: Man. 303 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,279 Speaker 3: I think he's easy though. 304 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,519 Speaker 1: Because you know, he wasn't when he was young. He 305 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,320 was I know, he was a tough cookie, bouncing off 306 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:19,639 the walls, he was a runner. 307 00:14:19,799 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: He was upset at one point in time, he was 308 00:14:22,919 --> 00:14:23,720 upset a lot. 309 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: Very emotional. I think he was trying to deal with 310 00:14:26,279 --> 00:14:27,000 his emotions. 311 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,279 Speaker 2: You know, that kid feels deeply and I think when 312 00:14:31,279 --> 00:14:34,000 he was young and could not it, could not verbalize it. 313 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,320 His frustration was it came through and he didn't know 314 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,440 how to handle it. I think at one point we 315 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,360 were kind of worried about him, really frankly, and then 316 00:14:45,559 --> 00:14:48,039 just over time, man, he just kind of started to 317 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,080 grow out of it. And when he started to really 318 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,159 talk more, the more he verbalized, the more communication increased, 319 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,399 the less frustrated he was, because then at least you 320 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,480 knew what was going on with him, right, And then 321 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,399 even at one point he probably he hit half the time, 322 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,840 didn't know what was going on emotionally, you know, with 323 00:15:04,879 --> 00:15:08,519 his own self. But man, now he's just so he 324 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,519 just he's just been such a great kid all the 325 00:15:10,559 --> 00:15:13,559 way through. And I'll tell you, man, every one of 326 00:15:13,559 --> 00:15:15,799 his teachers, what do they say. He's got the biggest heart. 327 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,600 He is so kind that the kids around him. And 328 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,440 I'll tell you it's better than grades. And he's an 329 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,960 honor student. So the grades are great. Right for me, 330 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,120 I didn't do well in school. Grades were not a 331 00:15:27,159 --> 00:15:28,679 thing for me, But for him, that's. 332 00:15:28,519 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: The thing for him also, I feel like it doesn't 333 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,440 come easy to him to take it grades, but he 334 00:15:32,559 --> 00:15:33,480 cares so much. 335 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 3: He does, he really does. You're so right about that. 336 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,279 Speaker 2: He tries so hard and he does not want to 337 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,440 disappoint us or himself. Teachers or his teachers. And it's 338 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,879 not like we're putting like crazy pressure on him. He's 339 00:15:47,919 --> 00:15:50,120 coming to his own conclusion on that and that's the 340 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,559 big win. So he's willing to study and put the. 341 00:15:52,559 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: Hard work in school though, which he didn't. 342 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: Want it to end, which I couldn't. 343 00:15:59,159 --> 00:16:01,559 Speaker 1: Hate it, couldn't wait for the last day. 344 00:16:02,279 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: I hated school. 345 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,159 Speaker 1: What do you say this year about when school was ending? 346 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,559 He's like, waits this Monday, And I'm like, yeah, I'm 347 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,039 like this Monday, you know, no more school, summer starting, 348 00:16:10,399 --> 00:16:14,200 he was saying. He was talking about the relief of stress. 349 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, school so much stress. 350 00:16:15,919 --> 00:16:17,919 Speaker 2: Well, he had all these tests towards the end and 351 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,600 he was like trying to get through and. 352 00:16:19,559 --> 00:16:22,919 Speaker 3: He did great. Yeah he did so. Yeah, I'm a 353 00:16:22,919 --> 00:16:25,919 great dad. Back to the back to the question. I try. 354 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,559 I try and be a good dad. I know that 355 00:16:27,679 --> 00:16:28,759 I could probably do more. 356 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I feel like you meet him where he's at, 357 00:16:31,639 --> 00:16:33,639 and I think that's important. I feel like you don't 358 00:16:33,679 --> 00:16:37,480 push him. You know, maybe you enjoyed things when you 359 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:39,720 were a child or around ten years old that he 360 00:16:39,759 --> 00:16:42,159 doesn't necessarily enjoy. Yeah, they don't push that on. 361 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,519 Speaker 2: The big thing is sports. I was like a sports 362 00:16:44,639 --> 00:16:47,480 nut job. I mean, you know, I was a powerlifter. 363 00:16:47,679 --> 00:16:51,080 I was captain of the football team. I had like 364 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,080 state national records and bench press state national records and 365 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,159 shot put in disc I mean, I was like an 366 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,840 overachiever and it was very natural for me, like my 367 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,639 athleticism won out. 368 00:17:02,519 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: You know. 369 00:17:02,919 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 2: And I really enjoyed that aspect of my life because 370 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,359 I hated school, so it was the only good thing 371 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,839 about school to me. And for him, he doesn't he 372 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,599 just doesn't care. He doesn't really care about sports. And 373 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,759 it's and it's funny because we tried him in football 374 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,039 and he just he didn't really care. 375 00:17:19,319 --> 00:17:20,759 Speaker 1: I feel like we've tried him at a bunch of 376 00:17:20,759 --> 00:17:23,599 things and he wasn't nothing ever really stuck until he 377 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:24,279 tried surfing. 378 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's more of an individual thing. I think, 379 00:17:27,319 --> 00:17:29,119 you know, he likes that. I think as soon as 380 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,200 you put rules and regulations to things, he's not into it. 381 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,759 So I think the surfing was more kind of free spirited, 382 00:17:35,839 --> 00:17:37,680 and it's it's in the ocean, and that kid could 383 00:17:37,799 --> 00:17:39,279 you could drop him off in the morning and pick 384 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:40,400 him up the next day and. 385 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 3: He'll still be out there. Yeah, yeah, so he definitely 386 00:17:43,759 --> 00:17:47,079 loves the water like that. But yeah, you're right. You know, 387 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,640 for me, I wasn't gonna push him. 388 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,799 Speaker 2: I really wasn't going to push him to be like 389 00:17:51,839 --> 00:17:54,920 a football player baseball player. It just if he wanted it, 390 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,880 I would have leaned into it, you know, because I 391 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,359 still love to throw the football with kids and stuff 392 00:17:59,400 --> 00:17:59,640 like that. 393 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,079 Speaker 3: And he he'll have a he's starting to come around. 394 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: First of all, he's it's his own time. 395 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,559 Speaker 2: And so this year he got h most improved in 396 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,319 gym class and most improved through the year in. 397 00:18:12,279 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 3: His fourth grade class. 398 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: So this year he's had like a big like I 399 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,519 would say a growth spurt, but I think more well 400 00:18:20,519 --> 00:18:24,680 physically and I think the way he's thinking, so he's changing, 401 00:18:24,759 --> 00:18:27,359 you know. And you know, he's like six foot and 402 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:32,759 he's in fourth grade and so man, I see his athleticism. 403 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:35,640 It's there, and I just feel like this kid's going 404 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,440 to come out of nowhere because he's going to be 405 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,839 I think he's going to be six five. I think 406 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,799 easily six', five AND i think he's going to be 407 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,119 like a not a lanky six, five like a big. 408 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,839 Speaker 3: Dude your dad's. Big, yeah he's very. Solid he reminds 409 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,720 me of me a little. Bit but he's much taller 410 00:18:51,759 --> 00:18:55,160 THAN i. WAS i, MEAN i was my father six six. 411 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: THREE i believe he's the shortest of your of his. 412 00:18:58,519 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: Brothers, yeah, yeah right, right you have an uncle that's 413 00:19:01,039 --> 00:19:04,680 what six, Seven, yeah that's. BEASTLY i mean that's a 414 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,839 Little i'm telling you probably six three six' five for 415 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,119 like like a tight end or like basketball or any of. 416 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,480 That stuff, you know it, IS good. I think, but 417 00:19:16,599 --> 00:19:19,000 yeah he's gonna be a beast and he's a very. 418 00:19:19,039 --> 00:19:23,400 Handsome kid so all those ladies are he's gonna be. 419 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 3: A heartbreaker. This, kid man it's it's crazy because he's. 420 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 2: Got your looks and he's gonna be, this tall, blonde kid. 421 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:35,000 You know, so anyways we. Love him he's GREAT and 422 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,160 i do have a lot of fun. 423 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:36,759 Speaker 3: WITH him i love. 424 00:19:36,839 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 2: Rough house and my wife is not good. At this 425 00:19:39,559 --> 00:19:41,279 SHE thinks i should never. Rough house. 426 00:19:41,519 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: NOT never i feel like your timing. 427 00:19:43,759 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 3: SO much. 428 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 2: I don't, I honestly i gotta tell. You something it 429 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,079 is so important for me to rough house with. Our 430 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,200 son it is not. Even funny it really really. Is 431 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,640 important it toughens him up a. LITTLE bit i think 432 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,920 it helped will help him. Through things he's not so 433 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,759 sensitive or gun shy about stuff, like that, you know and. 434 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:02,519 Speaker 3: He's kind of a rough. 435 00:20:02,559 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: Kid anyways he actually plays too rough, With me LIKE 436 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:06,920 if i give him a, little, something man he'll hit. 437 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,960 Me Hard and, i'm, like dude you can't hit me 438 00:20:09,039 --> 00:20:10,440 that hard because he's. 439 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:10,559 Speaker 1: Like. 440 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 2: Manly, now YEAH but i think rough house. 441 00:20:14,319 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 3: Is IMPORTANT and i know what. 442 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 2: You're saying it's like eleven o'clock, at night we're trying 443 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,759 to go, to Bed and, i'm like we're punching, and 444 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,880 wrestling and, you know he. 445 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:23,799 Speaker 3: LOVES it i. 446 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,799 Speaker 1: Love it it's when it's an inappropriate time to. 447 00:20:26,839 --> 00:20:28,319 Speaker 3: Do it That's why i'm, DOING it. 448 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,599 Speaker 2: I know, i mean this is what, dads, Do man 449 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,359 and you're always going to give me a hard time 450 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,559 and him a hard time, about it and we're always 451 00:20:34,599 --> 00:20:36,759 going to. Do, it now, in fairness he's, getting older 452 00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:39,119 so we're teaming up on you more, big time and 453 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,319 you can't really. Handle that it's like maybe like how 454 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,759 your brother and his friends would tease you at one point, 455 00:20:43,759 --> 00:20:47,319 in time like you're out in. Number enough it's now 456 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,720 we have. The dog it's three boys and, one girl 457 00:20:50,279 --> 00:20:53,079 and we're and he's becoming more. Man boy, you know 458 00:20:53,279 --> 00:20:56,319 he's got lots, of jokes like lots. Of jokes he's he's, 459 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,079 very witty he's. Very funny and he gets all that. 460 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,759 From me oh, my gosh he's got, your looks he's got, 461 00:21:03,799 --> 00:21:04,799 my athleticism. 462 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 3: MY humor, i. 463 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,319 Speaker 1: Mean this, kid's winning, winning combo. 464 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 3: Winning combination. 465 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: What's something about me that fans would be surprised? 466 00:21:17,279 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 3: To learn, my, gosh, dude, dude ude. 467 00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:23,839 Speaker 1: So, broad wait let me think. About, this wait? What's, 468 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,799 APPROPRIATE well. 469 00:21:25,599 --> 00:21:27,599 Speaker 3: I, MEAN geez i could think of a few. 470 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: You, could, yeah well let me think about this here 471 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,640 that they would be surprised. 472 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,079 Speaker 3: To, learn yeah what is something, that like fans really 473 00:21:35,079 --> 00:21:35,839 don't know? About? 474 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,839 Speaker 1: ME hmmm i think everyone knows that you're obsessed with pick? 475 00:21:39,839 --> 00:21:41,599 Speaker 3: A ball nobody knows that. 476 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: You don't Think, so NO maybe I just KnowI fans. 477 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:44,559 Speaker 3: Know that? 478 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 2: Oh really WHEN how i never posted a picture. 479 00:21:48,319 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 3: Of me playing pick? A ball You know i'm OBSESSED 480 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,240 because i talk about it all. 481 00:21:52,279 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: The, TIME yeah i, was thinking maybe that's a. Big, 482 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,799 thing well you know what? It is that's funny when 483 00:21:56,799 --> 00:21:59,319 people see you like out like, in person, they're, like, 484 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,119 oh wow you look great, or whatever because, like, you've yeah. 485 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 3: Playing pickleball yeah you're. All right so that's. 486 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: One, THING yeah i would say that's like a big 487 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,200 part of your life that people probably don't realize how 488 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,119 obsessed with pickleball. You are in the grand SCHEME of i, 489 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,359 Am everything. 490 00:22:15,319 --> 00:22:18,799 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with Pickleball because i've been playing what maybe three? 491 00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 3: Years now? Four years? How? 492 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: Long uh four? 493 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: Four years and, You know i've had my injuries and stuff, 494 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,559 like that but it has got me to be a. 495 00:22:27,599 --> 00:22:31,720 Beast AGAIN and i mean like fast, as lightning very. 496 00:22:31,799 --> 00:22:35,440 Athletic again i've Gotten my i've gotten like my natural 497 00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:37,759 athleticism back in. 498 00:22:37,759 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: Action that you thought. 499 00:22:38,759 --> 00:22:39,799 Speaker 3: WAS gone i thought it, was. 500 00:22:39,799 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 2: Gone Right and i'm talking like for, THIRTY years i 501 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,319 didn't really do. 502 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 3: Any sports SO when, i start how do? 503 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: YOU that i feel like that's like the biggest thing 504 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,839 with pickleball because it's so inclusive that a lot of people. 505 00:22:49,839 --> 00:22:52,200 Don't realize so there's so many people that in high 506 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,839 school played. A sport how do you play football once 507 00:22:54,839 --> 00:22:56,119 you get a high school you KNOW what? I, mean 508 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,720 like or how do you play like a soccer game 509 00:22:57,839 --> 00:23:00,160 or something that's a big, team sport and that's what 510 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,359 you were. Very into you kind of lose that part 511 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:02,920 of your life. 512 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 2: You do, and really pickleball is like a big filly. In, 513 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:11,440 there man it's very. FOR me i try for everything 514 00:23:11,759 --> 00:23:15,559 AND and i SWEAT and i get a, fantastic workout 515 00:23:16,079 --> 00:23:18,839 keeps the, fat off keeps, me lean keeps me keeping 516 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:19,119 up with. 517 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,799 Speaker 1: That, KID yeah i feel like that's been a really. 518 00:23:21,799 --> 00:23:22,799 Big difference it. 519 00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 2: Really Has uh, AND man i, play well, you know there's, 520 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,480 better Players but i'm a. GOOD player, I mean i'm 521 00:23:30,799 --> 00:23:35,000 a very. Advanced player so and and it's. Very competitive 522 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,519 we just got a new pick a ball place INDOOR that, 523 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,799 i JOINED which i, like outdoor but the wind's a. 524 00:23:41,799 --> 00:23:44,799 Big factor And now. I'm SPOILED so i like WHERE 525 00:23:44,839 --> 00:23:47,279 when I when i hit the ball, over there it goes. Over, 526 00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:51,480 there ish, you know, You hope, BUT yeah I just 527 00:23:51,559 --> 00:23:54,960 i think like, for me it's. Been big it's really 528 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,160 helped hand. Eye COORDINATION and, i think, you know FOR 529 00:23:58,319 --> 00:24:00,680 years i was the guy like, Pick ball what the? 530 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 3: Hell's pickleball, and uh well sounds it. 531 00:24:05,079 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 2: SOUNDS ridiculous, i know yeah. IT does i think it's 532 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,680 a terrible name. For it but that's what. 533 00:24:09,759 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 3: It is. 534 00:24:10,319 --> 00:24:12,599 Speaker 2: And uh and THEN once, i STARTED then i. Was 535 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,440 hooked and THEN when i started, getting good oh, forget 536 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,519 it that was it. 537 00:24:17,559 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 3: FOR me. I turned i FEEL like i. 538 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: First know you were like a mental case when you first. Started, 539 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,519 playing yeah there's something wrong. 540 00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 3: With, YOU seriously i think. You're. 541 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: Right, yeah no we would play and you'd be, so like. 542 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: Oh that that was in the BEGINNING where i was 543 00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:32,920 probably a little bit more FRUSTRATED because i wanted to 544 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:33,599 be BETTER and. 545 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 3: I wasn't so it WAS like i was a little like. 546 00:24:36,839 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 2: Now that i'm a, better player a much more, like chill, 547 00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:44,640 You know i'm a little bit more, laid back less 548 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,519 intense even when, we play, you KNOW because i can't 549 00:24:47,599 --> 00:24:49,200 keep when, WE'RE playing i can't keep my. 550 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: MOUTH shut i got to tell you how to. Do 551 00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:54,279 it and then you're like. 552 00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: The eyes but you're a good. Pickaball player SO and 553 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,920 I think i've gotten better. WITH that, i mean you 554 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,039 could speak. To that we don't play as much together 555 00:25:01,079 --> 00:25:01,279 as we. 556 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: USED to i love when you comment like get it over, 557 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,240 the NET like i. Didn't know thank you. For that that's. 558 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,559 So helpful, i'm like you got to. Get, it yeah 559 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:09,640 and then you do the. 560 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,519 Speaker 3: Same thing i'm working on all. That though i'm working. 561 00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: On me we're playing the tournament at the end of. 562 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,319 Speaker 2: This month we are playing in, a tournament. Local tournament 563 00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:17,720 it's going to. 564 00:25:17,759 --> 00:25:20,279 Speaker 1: Be great last time we. Played replaced yeah we got. 565 00:25:20,279 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 2: Third place yeah that's, PRETTY good, i know especially since you, 566 00:25:23,079 --> 00:25:25,960 NEVER play. I know, BUT yeah i think overall pickleball 567 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,480 would be something that people now know, about me but 568 00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:30,799 really probably all for all. 569 00:25:30,839 --> 00:25:32,839 Speaker 3: INTENTSIVE purposes i don't post pictures of. 570 00:25:32,839 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 2: ME playing i just it's kind of a part of 571 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,680 my LIFE that i don't really let. People INTO but 572 00:25:38,759 --> 00:25:41,920 i maybe should MORE because i do. LOVE it i 573 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,160 designed a, paddle ye which is nowhere. Right now we've 574 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,480 got to probably. Readdress THAT but i should be doing some, 575 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,160 paddle designs. You, KNOW really i got some. Good ideas 576 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,039 we did a really, Great paddle, SO yeah i think 577 00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:57,759 getting a little bit more. Into that, AND well, I 578 00:25:57,799 --> 00:26:01,799 Mean i'm type. Two diabetic maybe maybe some, people KNOW 579 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,799 but i don't think everybody knows that, about me. 580 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,799 Speaker 1: You, KNOW yeah i guess that's a big. Thing too 581 00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:09,559 and that's it's funny how that, came about because remember the, 582 00:26:09,599 --> 00:26:11,160 build off it Was build. 583 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 3: Off too it Was build, off Too build. 584 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: Off, too okay So build off too, very, stressful. Right 585 00:26:16,759 --> 00:26:20,880 yeap especially after winning the first, build off you're the 586 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,559 only one who has something to lose really against, everyone else. 587 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:23,759 Speaker 3: You. 588 00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 2: Know yeah going into the second, build off we came 589 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,559 into it winners and everyone else, had lost and We 590 00:26:28,599 --> 00:26:31,839 added Fast, and loud, who frankly at, the time their 591 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,720 show was new and. Pretty hot they had a, good 592 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:37,200 following and they were, feeling themselves, you know like in, 593 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,960 that situation they were like we're the we're guaranteed. 594 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:41,079 Speaker 1: To. 595 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: Win, Yeah yeah and so we came, into, that like, 596 00:26:44,599 --> 00:26:45,680 you know kind of. 597 00:26:45,599 --> 00:26:48,519 Speaker 1: Like stressful and. IT'S live i feel like people don't 598 00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:51,200 realize like, the pressure like if, you fall, you fall, 599 00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:53,599 that's right. YOU know i mean there's no editing that comes, with. 600 00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:55,039 Speaker 3: That, You know and that was a lot of pressure. 601 00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: FOR you I mean i felt, the pressure yeah. FOR you, 602 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,160 i know different if, it's yourself but like watch, you, 603 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,599 know yeah go. 604 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,319 Speaker 3: THROUGH that i remember because we did the first one and. 605 00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 2: You're like, never again we'll see and then the next year, 606 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,839 they're like we want to do, another one and we, 607 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,559 were like, oh geez, man' gosh we're the only ones 608 00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:18,559 with anything, to lose but we, did it and you 609 00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:20,240 know it was good for us those. 610 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: Build up so getting back, to that during that stressful 611 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,319 time when we were going through, like rehearsals, you know 612 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,480 just like timing and everything like, on stage and you 613 00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:31,960 weren't feeling, that, Great, remember yeah and we didn't know 614 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,920 at the time that you were type. Two diabetic we 615 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,519 have no idea and WHO did i go next or 616 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:38,920 someone went? 617 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 3: NEXT week i got, a banana. 618 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,559 Speaker 1: Got a banana from the dressing room next door to 619 00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:43,799 give it. To, you yes because you were feeling like. 620 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 2: WONKY wonky I remember i got out of. The elevator 621 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,960 now there was a lot. Of stress there was a lot. 622 00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: Going on behind the scenes that no one, Knows about, 623 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:52,920 like well that. 624 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,839 Speaker 2: Big conversation that happened with, My Father jesse james and 625 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,000 our producer and they DIDN'T realize i was standing back 626 00:27:59,039 --> 00:28:01,799 there because it. Was dark that really put me in like. 627 00:28:01,799 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: A well you. HEARD something i heard SOME things i 628 00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:05,519 knew that. 629 00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:08,039 Speaker 3: You heard but it was good because they all told, 630 00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:10,720 on THEMSELVES so I had i was like in. The, 631 00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:14,000 know yeah so that did, work out but it also 632 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,720 was like Stressful because i'm like realizing pretty much everyone hears, 633 00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:21,160 against me, you know so you got to figure this. 634 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,279 Thing out so there was a lot going on at, 635 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:25,880 the time. You know, but yeah THAT'S when i, found 636 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,599 out well. 637 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: We got we got too long, after, That, right. 638 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 3: Yeah it was shortly after that that, Ever then. 639 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: But it all made sense all the, you know there 640 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,319 were all, these signs right. 641 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: My freaking out on you after eating a whole put 642 00:28:39,319 --> 00:28:40,279 three twins. 643 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:45,039 Speaker 1: Ice cream ice cream out, and, navah, GOSH yeah i had. 644 00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:48,119 Speaker 3: No idea you woke, up, LIKE yeah i was drinking 645 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:54,960 like gallons OF that v eight. SPLASH juicing i, was, 646 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,079 LIKE man i already drank two. Of, these, man. 647 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,839 Speaker 1: Yeah probably the worst thing you could have. 648 00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:01,079 Speaker 3: Been drinking WORST Thing I but i had, No, IDEA 649 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:01,839 man i had. 650 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,039 Speaker 2: No idea people should pay attention, to that, because truthfully 651 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,480 many years, before that my doctor told ME that i WAS. 652 00:29:09,559 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: Remember i was getting, me that and, you're, LIKE whatever 653 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:12,839 i was. 654 00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: Getting BORDERLINE but i always felt like she was trying 655 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,839 to put me on too. Many medications like EVERY time 656 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,319 i went, in there, she's, like oh we got to 657 00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:20,759 get you on. Blood pressure, I'm like i'm not taking any. 658 00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:23,319 Of that i'm like a, young guy, you know and 659 00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:26,240 then the diabetes caught up, with me, you know which 660 00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:29,559 is WEIRD because i was never. REALLY obese i eat 661 00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:34,000 sugar like. EVERYONE else i DON'T think i, ate terribly but, 662 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,400 you know it's weird when. YOU'RE young i Remember thinking 663 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,279 i'll do it all now BECAUSE later i won't be. 664 00:29:41,319 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 3: Able TO and i did. 665 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:42,319 Speaker 1: It. 666 00:29:42,359 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: All, MAN yeah i ate, smoked fat, fatty steaks. 667 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 3: Whatever you, can eat. 668 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: You. 669 00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 3: Know, yeah yeah, and boy it does catch up. To 670 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,119 You now, i'm fifty AND now i can't do any. Of, 671 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,480 it yeah that's. NOT true i. EAT good i probably. 672 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: EAT better I probably i probably should eat a little, 673 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:03,440 bit better. 674 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,359 Speaker 3: You KNOW but i will tell. 675 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: You this, the pickleball yes COUNTERACTS if. 676 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 3: I PLAY if i play for like two hours HARD 677 00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:15,279 and i lose like five ten pounds of, just sweating, 678 00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:18,079 YOU know i could probably come home and eat a 679 00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:20,680 few THINGS that i shouldn't and it really does balance, 680 00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:23,079 me out, you know because you're burning all. That. 681 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,039 Speaker 2: Sugar YEAH so i think being active and having type, 682 00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:29,960 two diabetes aside, from diet or at least a, moderate diet. 683 00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:32,759 IS critical i think a lot of people, don't exercise 684 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:33,920 and that's when they get. 685 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 3: Into, trouble yeah and. 686 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,039 Speaker 2: Even for me now unless something changes with, the medicines 687 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,240 it's not a good thing. To have so if you 688 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,839 could avoid it, early ON which i think has just changed. 689 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,319 Your habits if anyone says, your borderline if. 690 00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: You're borderline then you should probably, watch. 691 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,359 Speaker 2: Yeah because you don't want to be on met Forman 692 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,240 in genuvia and Whatever else. I'm on you, know This 693 00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:57,599 like i've been on that for like like fifteen, years, now, yeah, 694 00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:02,200 right so but, but overall, YOU know i still always. 695 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,880 Feel TIRED yeah. 696 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 3: I do i always Feel like. 697 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: I'M tired i got to get my, gallbladder Out and, 698 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,680 i'm wait you have. 699 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: Been avoiding this and it's going to be like and, 700 00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:14,599 they said it's like such a simple little. 701 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,799 Speaker 3: It's a, one day half day in. 702 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: And Out and, i'm waiting just waiting for the ambulance 703 00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:21,559 to CARD because i Can because i'm keeled over on 704 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,640 the floor or something. Like that, you know that's just. My, 705 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,799 stubbornness YEAH but i should do something. About it it's 706 00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:30,039 been like a year since they told me that things got. 707 00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:34,599 Speaker 3: To, Go yeah i'm falling apart. 708 00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: To. 709 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,039 Speaker 2: Be fifty so people want to know what's my? Weirdest 710 00:31:39,079 --> 00:31:39,960 habit what's your? 711 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: Weirdest habit you make all sorts of noises and make 712 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,839 up your. Own WORDS sometimes. 713 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,039 Speaker 3: I do make up my. OWN words i think that's 714 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:47,839 where our sun gets. It. 715 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:48,519 Speaker 1: FROM now. 716 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 3: I do make a lot. Of noises you do a 717 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,160 lot of, throat clearing a lot, Of, sniffing, yeah. Snorting, 718 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,200 farting wow it's just a. HUMAN man i can't think 719 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,039 fifty year old. Human man what. 720 00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: Are some other? WEIRD habits i. Don't. 721 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,039 Speaker 3: KNOW uh i bite. My nails, oh. 722 00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:13,319 Speaker 1: Yeah okay i've even offered to clip your. 723 00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:16,759 Speaker 2: Eye is it's a bad IDEA because i know they're 724 00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:18,799 dirty and now we're probably gonna get sick. 725 00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 3: From, it yeah it's. 726 00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: SO terrible. 727 00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:22,559 Speaker 3: I rock you. 728 00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:25,079 Speaker 1: Do rock that's a. Strange one i've gotten used, to. 729 00:32:25,119 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 3: IT so i don't do IT like i. 730 00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: USED to i don't notice. 731 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 3: It, ANYMORE yeah i don't do IT like. 732 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: I remember we were, like dating like not, too long 733 00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:33,119 and we were driving somewhere far and you started like 734 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,000 rocking in, the Car and, i'm, like. 735 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: Like oh, my. Gosh, killer, YEAH yeah. I rock i 736 00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:41,319 like rocking back. 737 00:32:41,319 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: And. 738 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: Forth man AND when i, WAS young i used to 739 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,960 my mom used to go nuts because, you know we'd 740 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,319 BE in i was like a, big kid and when 741 00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:50,200 i'd just sit up front with her and she'd be 742 00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:53,200 driving in the mini Van and i'd be fricking the 743 00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:54,440 minivan be, like this. 744 00:32:56,519 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 3: She's driving. Her. 745 00:32:57,759 --> 00:33:00,279 Speaker 2: Nuts yeah so she took me to the doc her, and, 746 00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:02,400 SAID hey I got, She's like i'm bringing you to 747 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,319 the Doctor and i'm. Like okay so we go there and, 748 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,680 she's like he's blah blah blah and rocket and all 749 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,920 when he's on the couch watching. 750 00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:15,359 Speaker 3: TV's rocking doctor said it's. Perfectly, fine yeah nothing you 751 00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:15,640 can do. 752 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: About it, she's like tell him. 753 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 3: To stop it's kind of a. 754 00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 2: Soothing technique and it's weird Because now i'm FIFTY and 755 00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:21,880 i still. 756 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 3: DO it i do it a, lot LESS and i could. 757 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,640 SIT still i don't have to. 758 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 2: Rock THOUGH when i was like in my LIKE when 759 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,599 i was, A, KID yeah I mean, I was i. 760 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,279 Speaker 1: REALLY rocked i feel like you only do that like 761 00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:34,920 on long drives or if you're tired and you're like 762 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:35,480 trying to like. 763 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 3: Stay, Away well i'll also ROCK if i throw. 764 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,359 Speaker 2: MUSIC on i kind of get. Into IT but i 765 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,160 noticed every once in A while i see like people 766 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,640 pass and they're like look pointing and laughing at ME 767 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,799 because i must look special in that front. 768 00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:51,319 Speaker 3: Seat, rocket yeah, but, uh yeah that's Something that i've. Always. 769 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,000 DONE man i know one other kid who. 770 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,319 Speaker 2: Did it something it's just a something wrong. With, him 771 00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:58,400 yeah there was something very rough, with him but it wasn't. 772 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,480 The rocking he was just there was something wrong. 773 00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:00,599 Speaker 1: With. 774 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 3: It yeah, but yeah, YOU know i. 775 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,559 Speaker 2: DON'T know i guess it's like a, soothing technique That's 776 00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:06,319 what that's what the doctor SAID when i was. A 777 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,639 kid and uh AND so i think it, made sense, 778 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,039 you know especially with, my upbringing, you know. 779 00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 3: A lot. 780 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 2: Of, Stress okay so what is something that someone might be? 781 00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 3: Surprised about you? Surprised, me like what's some kind of 782 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,079 thing that like they would never know? 783 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:29,159 Speaker 1: About you you, TELL me i. 784 00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 3: Don't know you're in the? Garden club is? 785 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: That, LIKE oh i would feel like we do like 786 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,039 a lot of community, you know outreach and things of, 787 00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:40,159 that nature raise money for, different things give, out scholarships 788 00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,239 and it's kind of centered. AROUND gardening i. DON'T know 789 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,599 i feel like it's like a nice way to get 790 00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:48,400 back to. The community and also it's SOMETHING that, I, 791 00:34:48,559 --> 00:34:52,159 enjoy yes. You do so there's like house tours Like 792 00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:55,400 for christmas, and Everything and i've always enjoyed like decorating and, 793 00:34:56,119 --> 00:34:58,559 you know coming up with like creative ways to do. 794 00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:00,519 Certain THINGS so i feel like it kind of scratches. 795 00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:02,079 Speaker 3: That itch if you. 796 00:35:02,039 --> 00:35:04,199 Speaker 2: Had to look like a, round number what is the 797 00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:07,880 age of women that are In The garden club older 798 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,000 than me by? A? Margin yes so how was that 799 00:35:11,079 --> 00:35:14,039 experience transitioning To The garden club being? 800 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 3: SO much i. 801 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: Attended many MEETINGS before i, actually joined and they, kept 802 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,639 saying are? You sure are? You sure you know we're 803 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,679 a bit older, Than YOU and, i, said well we're interests. 804 00:35:25,679 --> 00:35:27,639 A line you. DON'T mind i, don't mind, You KNOW 805 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,719 but i feel like it's a, good thing, you KNOW 806 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,480 because i feel like over the it's been a few 807 00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:34,840 years Now that i've been in, the CLUB and i 808 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,639 Feel like i've kind of found my niche a little 809 00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:39,039 bit of like the things that because you can volunteer 810 00:35:39,079 --> 00:35:41,280 for a lot of different events that they have, and everything, 811 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,559 and LIKE like, i said like the different outreaches we 812 00:35:44,639 --> 00:35:47,000 do things like with the kids in the community or at, 813 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,320 the SCHOOLS which i try to help with and some 814 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,840 of the house tours, and everything so you kind of 815 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,840 like pick and choose where you feel like you. Fit 816 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,679 best and, you know That's what. I'VE done i think. 817 00:35:56,559 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 3: You've proven yourself to these. Older women