WEBVTT 1 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:29.399 All right, Joining us now is doctor Peter Hammond. I've 2 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:33.039 talked to him in the past about his amazing life 3 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:36.960 and experience doing missions in South Africa and through the 4 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:40.719 southern part of Africa, going into Marxist nations and the 5 00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:44.280 Muslim nations, and he had a very interesting take I 6 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:48.600 think on the Olympics. Why are the Olympic Games promoting paganism, 7 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:55.560 perversion and blasphemy. But it's an overall comprehensive take on 8 00:00:55.640 --> 00:00:58.520 the history of the Olympics, the ancient history of it, 9 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:01.119 as well as how being used to push the New 10 00:01:01.119 --> 00:01:03.359 World Order and many other things. So joining us now, 11 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:05.040 and of course I'll only tell you where you can 12 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:11.840 find him at Frontline Mission SA dot org. Doctor Peter Hammond. 13 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:15.239 Thank you for joining us, sir, Thank you so much. 14 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:15.760 David. 15 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:20.480 I'm sure we've all been absolutely horrified over the deliberate blasphemy. 16 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:24.640 And it's not just offensive to Christians. That's not so important. 17 00:01:24.920 --> 00:01:27.480 How I feel isn't very important. The important thing is 18 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:30.840 blasphemy and it's offensive to God or Mighty God I 19 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:33.280 create and the eternal judge before him, each one of 20 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:36.599 us will stand and you know, it's kind of extraordinary. 21 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:41.040 First of all, have this nonsense that the Olympics committee claims, Oh, 22 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:43.359 it wasn't meant to offend anyone who are just wanting 23 00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:48.640 to have a tolerance and inclusion. And interestingly, at first 24 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:50.560 they said, no, it wasn't meant to be a parody 25 00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:54.920 of the Lord's Supper based on Leonardo da Vinci's iconic painting. No, 26 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:59.719 it was actually meant to be some pagan festival with Dionysius. 27 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:04.239 And yet for a remarkable resemblance to Leonardo da Vinci's 28 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:09.520 iconic painting. And the press received on the program that 29 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:14.159 this would be the last supper. In fact, even since 30 00:02:14.199 --> 00:02:17.719 and press releases beforehand, the programs distributed to the people 31 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:20.039 on the banks of the Seine River, this was that 32 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:24.039 section of the procession of the opening ceremony was going 33 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:25.000 to be the last supper. 34 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:27.439 And you had an interesting take on this, which I 35 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:29.319 had not talked about. And when I talked about it, 36 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:32.280 I said, you know, we've had parodies and the last 37 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:34.240 separ it's a piece of art, and so forth. A 38 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:36.280 lot of people have done parodies of it. But the 39 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:38.919 thing that was interesting about this one and so offensive, 40 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:42.080 was the fact that they combined a parody with the 41 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:46.560 bauchery and your take on it was interesting because you 42 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:49.120 talked about the subtext to the fact that it was 43 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:53.439 Dionysius or Bacchanalia and talk about that the wine aspect 44 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:53.680 of it. 45 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:57.400 Now we've seen at Olympics openings that have been going 46 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:00.759 increasingly back to the pagan roots of the Olympic and 47 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:03.800 you can see, you know, whether you're talking about Athens 48 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:07.479 or Atlanta or Barcelona, London, as they all have been 49 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:12.680 getting increasingly more pagan type of arcoltic even ceremonies, which 50 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:15.240 is going back to the rooch of the Olympics, which 51 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:17.599 always was dedicated to Zeus and the whole pantheon of 52 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:21.599 Greek gods. We grateful that they don't sacrifice hundreds of 53 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:24.639 animals and engage in animal cruelty at the beginning of 54 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:25.879 the Olympics, which they used to. 55 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:28.439 Nevertheless, that may be coming, I don't know. 56 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:33.960 But now what they're doing is if you think the 57 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:36.639 Lord's Supper is so critical to Christian faith, this isn't 58 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:39.759 about Leonardo davinciy. This is about the Lord's Supper. They're 59 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:42.560 not trying to mock Leonardo da Vinci the artists. They're 60 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:46.719 trying to mock the Lord's Supper, because the Lord's supper 61 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:49.680 symbolizes I mean, this is where the community service was 62 00:03:49.719 --> 00:03:52.479 an augrets and the Lost Supper before our Lord was 63 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:56.000 portrayed and crucified, the body of the Lord symbolized by 64 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:58.800 the bread his body will be broken for us, and 65 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:02.120 the wine symbolic of his blood shed. Bruce, this is 66 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:05.280 at the heart of our salvation. And now in this 67 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:09.680 Olympic ceremony, opening ceremony, which of course cuts millions of yours, 68 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:14.120 put together that this is a massive operation. And you 69 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:18.879 have the Greek god Dionysius, who is the god of 70 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:21.160 wine and the god of the pauchery, lying on the 71 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:22.920 table where the bread and the wine should be. 72 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:25.040 So you've got the pauchery. 73 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:29.319 Instead of celebrating salvation, now replaced him to celebrating sin. 74 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:35.079 And remember, Christianity believes in salvation from sin, whereas the 75 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:38.399 pagan religion of Sabatanism, which many of the modern elite 76 00:04:38.480 --> 00:04:42.600 holds you, is salvation through sin. You are saved through sin. 77 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:45.920 In fact, it is through the bauchery, through breaking all 78 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:49.480 the laws of God. It is the whole Sabatane religion 79 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:54.360 which is at the heart of the Illuminati. For example, Sabatanism, 80 00:04:55.120 --> 00:05:00.160 which started in sixteen sixty six through sabatae Zebbi, which 81 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:02.639 is obviously the religion of many of the elites in 82 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:03.959 Hollywood and government today. 83 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:04.800 You can see it. 84 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:09.480 Horvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein epitomised Sabatanism. 85 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:13.759 Salvation through sin. You deliberately break all the laws of. 86 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:17.800 God and you throw yourself fully into the bauchery, so 87 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:22.199 you celebrates, You celebrate sin instead of celebrating salvation. 88 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:26.000 Yes, instead of instead of Christ sinless body. What you're 89 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:29.680 doing is you're using the body to create sin and 90 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:33.079 to celebrate that, and you point out salvation through that sin. 91 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:36.160 It is an interesting juxtaposition. And then of course you 92 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:41.759 know the wine aspect of Dionysius and the bacchanalia. You know, 93 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:44.360 saying that it's not the wine is not representative of 94 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:47.680 the blood, but you know it's uh, it's wine, and 95 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:51.120 it's drunkenness, and. 96 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:55.240 It's almost a religious ceremony that you engage in debauchery 97 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:59.560 in getting drunk. This isn't a sober recognition of my 98 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:02.720 sin led to the broken body and the shed blood 99 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:06.439 of my savior, which is of course something of repentance 100 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:09.000 and regrets in our hearts and souls as we look 101 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:11.079 at it and think, you know, this is terrible, what 102 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:14.319 my sin caused, the suffering that this caused my savior. 103 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:18.560 But instead they are celebrating at debauchery, the celebrating drunkeness, 104 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:21.800 and it's got almost a religious significance. They really do 105 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:24.759 worship their sin. They celebrate this and they love this, 106 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:27.120 and that is obviously the religion of many of the 107 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:30.040 elites in the world today. Bear in mind that despite 108 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:33.519 the huge amounts of outrage around the world the French Church, 109 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:37.480 outraged Christians around the world, outrage and even Elon Musk 110 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:39.680 and Donald Trump and the Speaker of the House of 111 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:43.879 the Years, House of Representatives saying this is disgusting, this 112 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:48.519 is shameful, this is outrageous. And yet the French present 113 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:52.040 from Macron, he comes up and says, we're proud of this, 114 00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:56.480 and this ceremony is about who we are as frenchmen. 115 00:06:56.920 --> 00:07:00.199 And the Mayor of Paris also said that they out 116 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:02.800 of this and this is wonderfulness. Represents who they are, 117 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:07.120 you know, blasphemous drunkards and anti Christian pagans. 118 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:11.040 They are actually proud. They're not actually rebuking this chapter. 119 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:14.240 Now interesting that the person who put this together, you know, 120 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:21.240 putting some freak show of perverts and people who look 121 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:24.040 more like the degenerates in the Hunger Games, pan m 122 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:28.800 the capital of the Hunger Games, a scenario, you know, 123 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:32.079 all but they weirdly died here in they're bizarre outfits, 124 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:35.360 and you've got the bearded man who's or the bearded 125 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:38.600 woman who's who's dressed in this provocative type of dress 126 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:42.000 in the whole lot of things hanging out and you know, 127 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:48.399 absolutely gross, disgusting, bizarre freak show and transvestites and perverts 128 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:52.879 and a whole LGBT crowd. They're not celebrating tolerance for 129 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:57.800 all kinds of religious beliefs. They're celebrating only one kind 130 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:01.639 of religious repeting. That's LGBTQ and the whole perverted brunch 131 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:05.560 and the trans crowds. This is what was being promoted there, 132 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:08.000 and this is what the French president and French mayor 133 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:11.000 of Paris claims they're proud of, and this is about 134 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:14.839 who we are. And they paid millions of euros to 135 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:18.199 put together this whole event, which by the way, it's 136 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:21.399 got more than that obviously, attacking the heart of our salvation. 137 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:25.079 The salvation of Christ is very bad. But they all said, 138 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:29.160 the pale writer of Revelation going writing down the Seine 139 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:31.720 carrying the Olympic banner, and you know, the pale writer 140 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:35.519 Hell follows off to him. And you can also think 141 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:38.519 of the golden cough that's up on the platform with 142 00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:41.559 the Olympic rings, so that why would you choose a 143 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:42.440 golden cough? 144 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:45.440 And it reminds us of the It's. 145 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:51.559 Just a question again, right well, yeah, remember what President 146 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:52.320 Franklin Dinlan A. 147 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:56.080 Roosevelt said, in politics, nothing happens by accident, and that 148 00:08:56.240 --> 00:09:02.440 was also in different words by the American Ambassador to Britain, 149 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:05.399 Joseph Kennedy, the father President John F. 150 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:05.840 Kennedy. 151 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:10.919 Joseph Kennedy wanted in politics the honor accidents. And I 152 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:14.559 think that this is true. And people don't spend tens 153 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:17.120 of millions of euros on something if it doesn't the 154 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:18.759 pitsmas what they believe. 155 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:19.960 You can be sure. 156 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:22.639 The opening for the Olympics was not just approved by 157 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:25.600 the Olympic Committee. It was approved by the French governments 158 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:29.120 and the Paris City Council because it represents all of them, 159 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:31.039 and they wouldn't have been allowed to bring it to 160 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:35.000 fruition unless it has been approved on the national municipal 161 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:39.159 level as well as the International Olympic Committee level. And 162 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:41.960 so that they've got all these bizarre things, including a 163 00:09:42.279 --> 00:09:45.399 figure of Mary Antoinette walking around the capitation with their 164 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:47.639 head under arm, which is not even funny. 165 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:48.720 I mean, it's disgusting. 166 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:53.200 The French Revolution, they'rehitting thirty thousand people, including women and children. 167 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:56.120 It just you know, it's not something to be proud of. 168 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:59.399 It's part of French history. But you know, there's many 169 00:09:59.399 --> 00:10:01.720 other things that to celebrate. They could have John the Arc. 170 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:05.039 I mean, you think of France has got some great 171 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:07.120 history they could have turned to. Why did they have 172 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:11.200 to terms to paganism and occultism and even anti Christian 173 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:14.240 bless you? Is that really what they are about, is 174 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:17.240 this epitomiz in the new world order and the powers 175 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:18.919 that should not be I think it is. 176 00:10:19.120 --> 00:10:21.240 Yeah, it's nihilism, as you point out, you know, the 177 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:24.120 Pale Writer, the death that was there, the Golden Calf, 178 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:27.120 all that stuff is very deliberate when they they think 179 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:30.120 a great deal about the sets that they have and 180 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:31.480 the symbolism that they put out there. 181 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:32.480 There's not an accident. 182 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:35.879 And as you mentioned, we've got Republicans who criticize it, 183 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:37.639 but they're still going to fund it. And you've got 184 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:40.919 Jill Biden who loved it. Jiel said this is just great, 185 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:43.679 and so she loved it as much as the Marxist 186 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:46.919 mayor of Paris and as much as Macron loved it. 187 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:50.120 So they're getting what they want. And of course in 188 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:52.919 the lead up to this, they're they're bragging about how 189 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:55.000 they changed all the laws and they're setting up all 190 00:10:55.080 --> 00:10:58.480 kinds of surveillance and things like that, which is going 191 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:01.000 to remain. That's going to be part of the infrastructure 192 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:04.279 to create more surveillance, more of a police state. And 193 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:07.120 so it is really pushing us into that new world order, 194 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:07.440 isn't it? 195 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:13.080 Incredibly so? And this isn't just the Olympics. 196 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:16.600 We've been seeing statues and monuments to all kinds of 197 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:20.320 pagan gods over the years. At the Athens Olympics, of course, 198 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:25.240 that's Zeus. They had Athenia, they had Aeros, the god 199 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:26.399 of Love, hanging over it all. 200 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:28.559 They had under Eros. 201 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:34.480 There's a bunch of these frollicking, scantly planned people touching 202 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:37.399 and releasing one another, and eers hopping over them. So 203 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:42.720 they've had a bunch of pagan depictions centaurs, halfman, half 204 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:44.240 horse launching. 205 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:44.799 Shafts of life. 206 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:49.919 At the beginning of Olympic ceremonies at Atlanti it was 207 00:11:49.960 --> 00:11:53.679 also extremely pagan and lots of the ancient pagan Greek gods. 208 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:58.799 And after the Athens Olympics it was said Zeus must 209 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:03.440 have been very pleased. Has so many people worldwide sung 210 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:06.879 his praises and never has he had such a large flock. 211 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:09.720 And so it seems that the powers that should not 212 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:12.200 be the globalist, the new World Order, are using these 213 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:15.399 Olympic events, which, let's face it, over a billion people 214 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:20.360 watch these opening events. So this isn't somebody offended somebody 215 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:23.320 at a school play. This is the biggest global event 216 00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:27.799 and the New World auto craft cannot help. They cannot 217 00:12:27.879 --> 00:12:32.440 resist the opportunity to promote their religion. I mean considered, 218 00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:35.519 if you or I were invited to speak at any 219 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:37.879 major event, no matter where it is, we would inject 220 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:41.679 our faith. I couldn't help you do it doesn't matter 221 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:45.240 where I'm invited. I've been university's army basis, I've been 222 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:48.080 in Muslim terror camps. I've been in Communists events, I've 223 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:52.440 been in cults, churches, Mormons, service witnesses and others. At 224 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:55.399 every occasion, I've brought in the Gospel. I can't help it. 225 00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:57.919 That's who I am, and I've got my message and 226 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:03.120 I'll bring it in well. The International Olympic Committee chose 227 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:07.399 a well known LGBTQ activist just into the trance movement 228 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:12.200 and so on, to put together this whole debauchery on 229 00:13:12.279 --> 00:13:16.000 the Sane River. As some people said, this was insane 230 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:17.879 because the name of the river is the same river. 231 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:22.080 So what you saw was an insane opening ceremony to 232 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:25.799 the Paris Olympics. And the whole ceremony was done on 233 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:27.679 the same river. 234 00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:30.519 And it was like a like an open sewer, just 235 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:33.240 like the saying itself as an open So the imagery 236 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:33.879 as as well. 237 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:38.240 As it isn't open because the seven seventy seven killime 238 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:40.759 the river. It's like the heart of Paris, and Paris 239 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:44.720 is built around the same river. And interestingly, you'll find 240 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:47.720 it's almost impossible to believe. I mean, I don't understand 241 00:13:47.720 --> 00:13:51.720 how it's possible. They spent a billion euro, that's euro, 242 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:55.519 a billion euro to clean up the seane so it 243 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:59.440 would be clean enough for this operation. And Paris must 244 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:01.799 do a lot of litten pollution. If it cost that 245 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:03.639 much to clean up the river, I mean, I would 246 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:06.080 have thought a million year could have done the job. 247 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:08.399 But what do I know, But they didn't clean it up. 248 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:10.840 They've got athletes who are in the hospital with THEKLA, 249 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:13.000 I mean the two of them in the hospital, so 250 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:17.440 it's pretty bad. You talked a lot about the original Olympics, 251 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:21.039 and I think it is kind of interesting that you know, 252 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:26.679 when to contrast the ancient Olympics with the modern Olympics. 253 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:32.440 I think that's very important because when the Olympic committee 254 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:36.279 also got under criticism because some Christian athletes have been 255 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:39.559 forbidden to have Christian symbols on themselves. On one case, 256 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:43.240 a man on a surfboard, a Brazilian athlete was warned, 257 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:46.240 you get the imagery of Christianity orf your surfboard or 258 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:50.600 you're disqualified from the Olympics. So when they were criticized, 259 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:53.919 they said, well, the Olympics are very strictly non religious, 260 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:57.600 really non religious. 261 00:14:57.799 --> 00:14:58.639 That is not true. 262 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:01.720 The Olympics have been from the very big being exceedingly religious, pagan, 263 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:04.840 of course, but very religious. So the original Olympics were 264 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:07.039 all done in the name of Zeus and in fact 265 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:09.600 the old pantheon of Gods, and every athlete thatches fail 266 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:14.279 egiants to Zeus. And there was a procession which involved 267 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:18.279 taking the sacred fire the embers up to the temple 268 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:20.360 of Zeus, and the priests carried the embers up and 269 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:23.679 they put the fire in, which is now symbolized by 270 00:15:23.679 --> 00:15:27.320 the Olympic torch coming and lightsing, and that the torch 271 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:29.759 has to start in Athens. It's all very symbolic ands 272 00:15:29.759 --> 00:15:32.759 on and so this is all pagan worship. And then 273 00:15:32.759 --> 00:15:35.559 they sacrificed a hundred bulls. There's a lot of animal 274 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:40.919 sacrifice before, during, and after every Olympic game. So every 275 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:47.360 single Olympic winner had to sacrifice after their winnings to 276 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:50.360 the Temple of Zeus. And by the way, one of 277 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:54.639 the rewards for the Olympic athletes who won was prostitutes 278 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:58.120 from the temple of Aphrodites, meant to the goddess of Love, 279 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:02.559 so of course are like goddess had lust. But the 280 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:07.159 original Olympics were exceedingly pagan, lots of religious activities and 281 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:11.080 for the Olympics Committee today to say we have strict neutrality, 282 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:14.559 there's nothing religious. Well, what do you call worshiping Zeus 283 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:18.559 and Eers and Dionysius and all these other things? Are 284 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:21.600 they not religious? And I think when I say non religious, 285 00:16:21.639 --> 00:16:24.519 what they mean is non Christian because they're certainly not 286 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:27.639 non religious. That is just not true. And so the 287 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:32.679 original Olympics were exceedingly violent, by the way, not only 288 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:36.919 with the killing of animals for sacrifices before the Olympics 289 00:16:36.919 --> 00:16:40.320 and after its and after every match, but there were 290 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:45.720 One of the Olympic sports was pentachron and that was 291 00:16:46.159 --> 00:16:50.559 where you could use anything from choke holds, dislocations of arms, 292 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:54.039 breaking of burns, one of the fact there was really 293 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:59.240 almost no rules. And the one of the famous athletes, 294 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:04.039 that is he was specialized in thrusting his fingers into 295 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:07.880 person's abdomen and ripping us in testins. Another one of 296 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:12.519 their contestants specialist breaking fingers, and so that was one 297 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:16.160 of the sports. The four horse chariot racers were famous, 298 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:20.599 exceedingly popular, you know, think Ben her But these chariot 299 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:24.640 racers involved gory pile ups. People were often disfigured beyond 300 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:28.759 recognition you know, very gory with people charing these things on, 301 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:33.079 so that Olympics were really bloody Olympics, and not just 302 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:35.920 violent to the poor animals who are sacrificed, but violent 303 00:17:35.960 --> 00:17:38.759 to the contestants. And by the way, the contestants had 304 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:42.240 to compete completely naked. Of course, only men were allowed 305 00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:46.759 to participates. Women were not allowed if they were married. 306 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:49.000 Married women were not allowed in the stands, and they'd 307 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:51.799 risked the death penalty like being thrown off the nearby 308 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:55.200 cliffs head first if they attended in the stands. But 309 00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:59.000 single women could attend, and prostitutes from the temple of 310 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:03.960 Afroidaiti were part of the rewards for winning athletes. So, 311 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:07.799 you know, the original Olympics. But I don't know why 312 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:11.240 we couldn't have launched an international sports event that wasn't 313 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:16.200 rooted in ancient Greek paganism and was such a trickered past. 314 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:17.559 I mean, was it really necessary. 315 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:19.440 I think it's time for us to launch a new 316 00:18:19.480 --> 00:18:23.160 form of international sports. We don't need the Olympics, and 317 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:26.680 Olympics seem so corrupt and so anti Christians, so pagan 318 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:30.839 and after this so blesphemous. I don't know how Christians 319 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:33.160 can want to participate in. And I come from a 320 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:37.480 sporting family. I've got several of my children have won 321 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:41.519 national colors and represents that our country overseas. So my 322 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:46.200 wife was very much into sports, and so we love sports. 323 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:49.920 My father used to run the Western Cape Cricket Union. 324 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:53.039 So I feel a little bit of a traitor to 325 00:18:53.079 --> 00:18:56.000 speak like this, but we are not against sports. Of course, 326 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:59.880 Christians are not anti sports per se. We're against idology 327 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:03.319 and paganism. But the Bible does have a lot of 328 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:06.799 athletic terms. So we read in the Bible about running 329 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:08.240 the race and keeping the faith. 330 00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:09.559 And in one. 331 00:19:09.400 --> 00:19:13.440 Corinthians nine of the apostle Paul speaks about every athlete 332 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:15.440 goes into strict training to compete in the. 333 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:18.880 Games, and they do it for a crown that will perish, 334 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:22.200 but we do it for crown to last for eternity. 335 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:24.039 And he speaks about. 336 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:26.119 How we've got a subdure body and make our body 337 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:29.880 our slave, that we will not be disqualified, so that 338 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:32.799 we can run the racers to get the price. 339 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:34.599 So these are good biblical images. 340 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:38.279 One Timothy before we read that physical training is of 341 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:41.279 some benefit. It's not of eternal benefit, but it is 342 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:44.880 of some benefit. Our body is the vehicle with which 343 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:48.640 our soul travels this earth to be useful on earth. 344 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:53.599 So physical sports is lifted up as something commendable, much 345 00:19:53.720 --> 00:19:56.400 like being in the military or being a farmer is 346 00:19:56.440 --> 00:19:58.839 lifted up as a model of the Christian dsuption walk. 347 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:02.880 We can learn from sports. And I remember being brought 348 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:06.519 up in school in Rhodesia, where sports would taught us 349 00:20:06.680 --> 00:20:09.359 as to teach us how to be team players, to 350 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:12.559 teach us how to play according to the rules, to 351 00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:17.079 be gracious winners, to be gracious losers, to play the 352 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:21.000 game for the sake of doing it right. And so 353 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:24.359 in some ways they said sports was preparing us for life. 354 00:20:24.599 --> 00:20:26.799 Other times they said sports was preparing us for war. 355 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:30.000 Were told by some teachers, war is the real thing. 356 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:33.839 Sports is just the practice, you know, where when you 357 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:35.759 learn some of the skills that you're going to use 358 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:40.079 in the battlefield, you learn on a sports field. And 359 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:43.640 so I'm not against sports, but the Olympics have become 360 00:20:43.839 --> 00:20:47.480 absolutely debauched in pagan and the hostility to Christianity is 361 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:50.799 subject you can understand why so many people, including Elon 362 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:53.440 Musk and Hobby Lobby and others have said they're boycotting 363 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:58.599 the Olympics, withdrawing advertising. And even after all this protest, 364 00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:02.319 you still have them the French present saying he's proud 365 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:04.480 of this and this is what beyond, this is what 366 00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:08.079 we are as Frenchmen, as Parisians, and well it shows 367 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:11.240 you they are so committed to their pagan religion that 368 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:14.799 these powers that should not be the globalists are willing 369 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:17.240 to alienate a lot of people, a lot of sponsors. 370 00:21:17.359 --> 00:21:19.880 It's not financially viable to do this. I don't know 371 00:21:19.920 --> 00:21:22.599 if you've noticed, but the stands are often empty and 372 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:26.480 they are having trouble selling tickets to the Olympics. People 373 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:30.519 are not filling the stands, people are boycotting, many are 374 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:34.480 board out of their mind or disgusted. And so the 375 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:38.640 Parasalympics have had the lowest attendants ever. They've never had 376 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:42.160 such such bad attendants. And of course that's excluding the 377 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:47.519 COVID cults lockdown lunacy of the Tokyo Olympics, which was 378 00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:50.200 postponed a here and then they stow it didn't allow 379 00:21:51.759 --> 00:21:55.039 spectators in the stands. It all had to be remokely, 380 00:21:55.119 --> 00:21:59.920 which that's going to be one of the most dull DoD. 381 00:22:01.160 --> 00:22:02.640 Olympics. Ever, you know. 382 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:06.759 Watson Olympics will not spectators, well they seem to, but 383 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:11.240 the masquerade, madness, lockdown, lunacy, salvation by vaccination, COVID culture 384 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:14.160 was more important than the Tokyo Olympics. But now you 385 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:17.240 can see their paganism and the anti Christian blasphemy is 386 00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:23.160 more important thing than a successful Olympics. Olympics are about sports, 387 00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:26.799 you would think, But notice how politics is intruding more 388 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:27.200 and more. 389 00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:30.039 Now intriguingly, you. 390 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:32.480 Might have noticed that Russia and Belarus are not allowed 391 00:22:32.480 --> 00:22:34.599 to take part in the Olympics in their own name, 392 00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:37.039 with the own flags, and they're not allowed to have 393 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:39.400 the national anthem plate if any of them win anything. 394 00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:44.400 So they're they're as individuals, not under the country, the 395 00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:46.839 content march on the country's flag. Now, I find this 396 00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:52.440 interesting because throughout the entire Cold War, the Soviet Union 397 00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:56.000 was never excluded, even while they were oppressing and tormenting 398 00:22:56.079 --> 00:22:58.799 and murdering millions of their own citizens, and even while 399 00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:00.079 there so. 400 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:00.680 That's the point. 401 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.119 I had not heard anybody else to point that out. Yeah, 402 00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:03.839 that's amazing. 403 00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:06.640 Yeah, I mean, just think that the Soviet Union was 404 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:10.480 invading countries fermenting wars and terrorism all over the world. 405 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:13.400 And when they invade Czechus Thevarki in nineteen sixty eight, 406 00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:17.880 when the invaded Hungary and nineteen fifty six, they were 407 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:21.880 boycotted from the elections from the Olympics. So this is 408 00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:24.119 kind of interesting. But at the same time as the 409 00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:27.480 Soviet Union and Red China were watching in the Olympics 410 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:30.559 with their red flags or their stars and hamazon sickles 411 00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:33.640 and so on, we and Rhodesia and South Afka were 412 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:36.799 being boycotted from the Olympics. We couldn't take part because 413 00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:39.400 we were fighting for our lass against the same communist 414 00:23:39.480 --> 00:23:42.240 terrorism that the Soviet Union was sponsoring worldwide. 415 00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:44.359 Wow, and so little Refusia. 416 00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:46.680 And South Afka were not allowed to take part in 417 00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:49.920 the Olympics. For decades throughout the sixties and seventies and 418 00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:52.799 the eighties, we were being excluded from the Olympics. And 419 00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:55.920 to let politics in field with sports I think is 420 00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:58.640 so wrong. I don't think you should ever be boycotting 421 00:23:58.839 --> 00:24:02.599 a country because of the politics. The sportsmen should relate 422 00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:07.519 to participate, because isn't just what helps to less intentions 423 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:11.319 and bring about reconciliation between nations and helps alleviate wars. 424 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:15.839 When people can compete and meet with and interact with 425 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.799 people of other nations that might be their political enemies, 426 00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:21.400 it is a good thing for the country. That's why 427 00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:24.640 we have student exchange programs and sports teams going across 428 00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:27.359 the world is a lot better than sending armies and bombers. 429 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:27.680 Across the world. 430 00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:33.039 So I think the politicization of it is shameful, but 431 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:36.920 the hypocrisy, the double standards is just so outrageous. How 432 00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:40.799 can the Olympic Committee exclude Russia now that they've escaped 433 00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:44.359 from communism, but they never boycott them when they were 434 00:24:44.599 --> 00:24:50.000 the most virulent, atheistic communist, aggressive nation, totalitarian state, smashing 435 00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:54.680 their neighbors and exporting terrorism and weapons of mass destruction 436 00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:57.279 all over the world. And we experienced it from us 437 00:24:57.319 --> 00:25:00.039 growing up because were in Rodisia. We're having a the 438 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:03.599 million airline is shot down by Soviet Austrello missiles, heat 439 00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:06.119 seeking missiles, and the Samava has been cooked and eaten. 440 00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:08.960 I mean, for goodness sakes, what kind of a trustees 441 00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:11.400 And this sort of thing was going on in the 442 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:13.960 seventies and re leasally couldn't go to the Olympics, but 443 00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:18.279 the Soviet Union could, so I must say I despised 444 00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:22.240 the International Olympic Committee's hypocrisy. You know, every kind of 445 00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:25.119 sin is bad, but the hypocrisy really offends God. And 446 00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:27.759 you can just read Mettic three to see what the 447 00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:31.039 Lord Jesus thinks of hypocrites, his speech against the scribes 448 00:25:31.079 --> 00:25:35.359 and Pharisees hypocrites all. And the committee is shocking in 449 00:25:35.359 --> 00:25:38.720 its hypocrisy, and the French government is discussing in a 450 00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:43.319 hypocrisy too, And for them to pretend that, you know, 451 00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:46.759 we're neutral when it comes to religion, and that note 452 00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:49.200 we never intended to offend anyone, and even light saying 453 00:25:49.359 --> 00:25:53.359 this wasn't meant to be based on the the leoodis 454 00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:57.559 aventual depiction of the last support, But people who participated 455 00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:00.960 in it said they knew that there were emulating the 456 00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:04.480 parading Leonardo da Vinci's iconic depiction of the Lord's upper 457 00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:06.000 and it was even on the program. 458 00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:08.319 So they lie, that's right, And then we're going to 459 00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:11.720 say intend to offend anyone. That's not true either. 460 00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:14.599 Because the person they chose to design it all was 461 00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:20.160 a well known LGBTQ plus pro Peter filiateup activists who 462 00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:24.920 they paid millions to produce this, and then he sayds them, says, 463 00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:26.160 I didn't mean to offend anyone. 464 00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:27.039 Of course he did. 465 00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:30.559 He said, sorry he got caught. Yeah, he's just sorry 466 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:32.200 he got caught. You know the point that you were 467 00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:35.880 making too, And I didn't realize all those years that 468 00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:41.039 South Africa and Rhodesian anything were excluded from the Olympics. 469 00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:45.319 I remember though, the rabid competition between the US and 470 00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:48.720 Russia as to whom it got the most medals, and 471 00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:50.839 also with East Germany. You know, that was also a 472 00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:52.559 big part, and they weren't even total it up, you know, 473 00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:57.440 the countries behind the Iron Curtain versus the free countries, 474 00:26:57.440 --> 00:26:59.640 and here's how we're competing with medals and that type 475 00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:03.039 of thing. So it's always been a big nationalistic thing 476 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:05.599 like that. It was always about the communists. But you're 477 00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:08.200 that's a very interesting point. They would allow the Communists 478 00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:10.559 to compete for that, but then when you were fighting 479 00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:14.519 the Communists they excluded you. Now you made a point 480 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:18.839 about why don't we celebrate the heritage of life and 481 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.559 liberty that have been the fruit of Christianity. 482 00:27:24.319 --> 00:27:28.039 Yes, indeed, because in fact, the only religion the world 483 00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:30.920 you're not to dinner grate is Christianity. Now, I think 484 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:34.240 that's because it's only christian that's true, because they're not 485 00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:39.039 out there denigrating false religions. They're not out the dinner 486 00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:43.200 grating for example. Well, let's say, for example a kron 487 00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:46.279 or Muhammad. Well, first of all, that gets some serious 488 00:27:46.359 --> 00:27:48.880 violence back lash as they try to death. I mean, 489 00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.079 can you mention anyone trying to have ridiculing Muhammed or 490 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:54.160 Islam in the opening of the Olympics. 491 00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:57.799 I mean unthinkable. Paris would be burning. So but they 492 00:27:57.880 --> 00:27:58.279 go to. 493 00:27:58.279 --> 00:27:59.440 Christian the energetic terror. 494 00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:01.720 My science is, when are they going to have a 495 00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:05.440 draw Mohammed opening at the ceremony they show how fair 496 00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:07.440 and even and they are. Yeah, they wouldn't do that, 497 00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:10.519 would they, especially not in Paris with all the migrants 498 00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:11.119 that they've got there. 499 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:14.039 Now, I mean, can you I Mentionine having a depiction 500 00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:16.279 of Muhammad being a pig farmer or having a pig 501 00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:16.960 on his table. 502 00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:20.680 Or something like that. That's exactly I mean, why would they. 503 00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:25.039 Depict Jesus Christ as an obese trans woman and his 504 00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:29.359 disciples as a bunch of perverts and cross dresses and 505 00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:33.240 bearded woman, and you know, just the whole lgbt Q 506 00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:39.400 freak show, bizarre, and in a sense that's their evangelists. 507 00:28:39.839 --> 00:28:42.960 Jesus apostles are his evangelists. And the bread in the 508 00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:46.640 wines what's on the table symbolized his body broken on 509 00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:49.480 across his bloodshed for us, and so they replaced it 510 00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:53.000 with a pagan Greek god of the pauchery and wine. 511 00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:55.799 And you know he's a naked character vested in blue 512 00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:58.759 paints and blue. Yeah, it looks some people said it 513 00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:01.799 looks like the Smith. What on earth is this depiction? 514 00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:05.000 It's well, you know why he's blue as feces did. 515 00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:07.359 I mean it's a depiction as well. This is a 516 00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:11.960 did god, this Dynasius. But he symbolizes wine. I mean 517 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:15.519 he's drunk himself to death basically. And this is where 518 00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:20.200 we should focus our visions of salvation, salvation incense, salvation 519 00:29:20.359 --> 00:29:24.279 through sin, not salvation from sin. We don't celebrate salvation, 520 00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:28.680 we celebrate sin. And this is what France and the 521 00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:31.000 EU and the New World Order actually do represent. 522 00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:32.240 Macron is right in it. 523 00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:37.759 They represent occotism, blesshem me, paganism, sabatanism. They love their 524 00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:39.119 sin they hate to say it. 525 00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:41.240 And it's also a war on women. As you were 526 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:43.359 pointing out earlier, the women were not allowed to watch 527 00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:46.720 unless they were prostitutes or something, and under penalty of death, 528 00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:50.640 they would compete naked, but the women were kicked out. 529 00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:52.640 And so here we have a situation where you know, 530 00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:56.039 they had very violent fighting matches and stuff like that, 531 00:29:56.079 --> 00:30:00.440 but now we have women who compete in box, but 532 00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.599 now they're having men box the women. And so many 533 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.720 people talked about that aspect how misogynistic it really is. 534 00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:11.319 At the very opening ceremony, they replaced it was supposed 535 00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:13.319 to be a man and a woman hold jointly holding 536 00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:15.880 a torch. Well they replace the woman with a tranny, 537 00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:20.319 and then they have some intersex guys who are beating 538 00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:23.759 up women and that sort of thing. But it is 539 00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:26.160 very misogynistic, and so the question is, you know, not 540 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:31.000 only are they celebrating this culture that is pagan and 541 00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:34.799 debauched and everything, but it's also a very anti woman 542 00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:39.039 and you know, that culture of that religion, and that's 543 00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:42.480 supposed to be that another aspect of hypocrisy. They always 544 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:45.000 claim they're for women, and yet when you look at this, 545 00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:47.200 it is very very anti women. 546 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.240 Is in fact one of the way other feminists they 547 00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:53.680 meant to speak up for women, but in fact they've 548 00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:57.799 allowed trans men to be proclaimed women of the getting 549 00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.200 all kinds of women's awards. 550 00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:00.200 And then. 551 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:07.279 Supporting a man, excuse me, a man beating a woman 552 00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:10.440 in face. I mean, that's that's just so disgusting. And 553 00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:13.039 this woman was terrified and you know, they were afraid 554 00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:15.279 she had a broken nose, and so on. How is 555 00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:17.279 this sports and we. 556 00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:22.039 Mentor categories, you know, male, female and different categories in 557 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:24.759 terms of weight when comes to boxing on, so that 558 00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:25.440 it's fair. 559 00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:27.920 This is not fair. This is not just this is 560 00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:28.720 not sports. 561 00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:33.200 This is abusive woman and women are seeing they're sports invaded. 562 00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:37.079 There's safe places, even the changing rooms invaded. Women are 563 00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:42.680 being excluded. And what are you saying when men are 564 00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:45.160 taking women towards and even women in their award this 565 00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:47.359 and what the thing is nobody can be a woman 566 00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:48.440 as well as a man, can. 567 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.440 I mean, that's just ridiculous. That's it's so disgusting. 568 00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:55.960 I think the well, you pointing out a heritage, you 569 00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:58.039 point out the heritage of Christianity, and you said, you 570 00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:00.480 know in your essay you were talking about out how 571 00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:03.279 the athletes were professionals and sometimes you know they'll be 572 00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:06.119 highly paid, as our professional athletes are today, but many 573 00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:08.720 times part of the compensation would be to be given 574 00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:12.240 a slave. Well, it was Christianity that abolished slavery, so 575 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:16.759 the only culture that has abolished slavery, and slavery still 576 00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:19.240 exists in Muslim countries and that sort of thing to 577 00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:25.440 this day. But we also Christians abolished and fanticide, which 578 00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:28.359 these same people are bringing back. And then on the 579 00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:34.960 other side, Christians creating hospitals, libraries, universities, and colleges. These 580 00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:38.200 are the types of things that you know, it is 581 00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:42.799 anithetical to what they're doing, and yet they celebrate. We 582 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:44.359 look at those things and we said, well, those are 583 00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:50.759 all good things. To save the babies and to recognize 584 00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:54.119 that women are equal to men before God. We have 585 00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:56.559 different roles, but they are equal in the side of God. 586 00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:59.960 That was a very radical change for the pagan world, 587 00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:00.559 wasn't it. 588 00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:04.400 Yes, You know, to study what the world was like 589 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:06.759 before the time, across the world before the time, a 590 00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:10.400 crust was a world without charity, without kindness to strangers. 591 00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:14.160 It was a world without compassion or even respect for women. 592 00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:17.279 Women were treated as lower than slaves. And you know, 593 00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:20.359 no Hollywood film there's justice to the life of women 594 00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.519 before Christianity, because they will depict the woman walking around 595 00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:29.039 freely with open face in Roman and Athens and Sombers. Actually, 596 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:31.559 no woman was allowed to walk around on their own 597 00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:35.319 in the ancient Roman and Athens. They had to go 598 00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:38.359 under male guardianship, even if it was a male slave. 599 00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:41.759 But a woman, even a free woman, a princess, couldn't 600 00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:44.119 walk around on her own. She didn't have that freedom. 601 00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:47.880 She always was under male control. They weren't allowed to 602 00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:51.960 even attend meals and own home without special permission. They 603 00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:53.759 were just meant to be busting around the kitchen and 604 00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:56.839 serving and that to be in their quarters. And there 605 00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:59.799 was such a lot of abusive women. Women couldn't walk 606 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:03.240 sided with ut baring a veil. And this you wouldn't 607 00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:06.119 notice from the Hollywood films, because which actress wants to 608 00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:09.920 walk arounder the face obscured in these movies. But you know, 609 00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:14.679 if they were taking the ancient Rome or ancient Greece streets, 610 00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:16.920 they wouldn't have had these women walking around with their 611 00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:20.719 head and hair and face uncovered. They were compelled to 612 00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:23.480 be covered by law, they could get the death penalty 613 00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:26.320 for not bearing a veil, and you think that's only Islamic. 614 00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:30.480 That's the way the whole world was. Greek Romans before Christianity. 615 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:36.360 Christianity deliberately worked to free women on every level. And 616 00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:40.039 just think of how the Gospel, the message of the 617 00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:43.519 Resurrection was first proclaimed by a woman. The first convert 618 00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:46.760 in Europe was a woman, Lidia. And you think how 619 00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:48.840 Mary Magnil was the first at the two men, the 620 00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:53.079 first to proclaim the resurrection. And Christianity gave women worth 621 00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:58.000 and respect that had never existed before. And only Christianity 622 00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:01.159 brought an into slavery. To think every practice slavery and 623 00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:07.519 human sacrificed, even to Rome and Greece, which is so 624 00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:11.800 well thought of. They were sacrificing not only strangers and slaves, 625 00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:14.760 even sacrificing their own children or wives on occasion. You 626 00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:18.119 think of how Agamen sacrifices and daughter at the beginning 627 00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:20.880 of the siege on Troy and in order to bring 628 00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:22.239 victory and favorable waves. 629 00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:22.440 Soon. 630 00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:26.239 So there's these Greek kings and Roman kings. They were 631 00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:29.840 doing all kinds of hideous things human sacrifices. Sherely sees 632 00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:32.719 it that human sacrifices on occasion, and so on, and 633 00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:37.199 now the world has something of a selective memory, and 634 00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:40.440 and now idealizes these pre Christian pagan societies of Greek 635 00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:43.679 and Rome and the Olympics, for example, But they don't 636 00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:47.679 recognize how Christianity has brought about everything good in this world. 637 00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:49.519 We would not want to live in. 638 00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:51.480 This world if it hadn't been for Jesus Christ and 639 00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:54.320 influence he and as followers and teachings have made on 640 00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:59.360 this world. If you just look at literacy universities, you 641 00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:00.519 need verity us. 642 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:01.920 The very name, the. 643 00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:06.159 Etymologia of the word univillitus tests to christian Ologists. Most 644 00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:09.079 university profess today don't even believe in truth or one 645 00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:11.320 truth or that can be known. So I think the 646 00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:15.360 Pagans of today they should open up diversities, a versities, 647 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:18.480 poly versities, but a university by definition should be Christian. 648 00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:22.800 It's Christians pioneered the universities, many cases ministers and missionaries. 649 00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:23.320 By the way. 650 00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.280 In fact, even the whole Slavic language in alphabet was 651 00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:31.679 set to writing created by Christian missionies to Russia. So 652 00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:35.599 the whole Slavic alphabet. When the Communists used to write 653 00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:38.480 out their dates and so on, they were having to 654 00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:41.760 use an alphabet designed by Christians. And even today when 655 00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:45.000 we speak by Paris Olympics twenty twenty four, twenty twenty four, 656 00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:50.360 what yes, Lord, even the dates tests pars to the 657 00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:53.320 centrality of plus. We haven't built our dating system on 658 00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:57.719 the birth of Julius Caesar, or Muhammad or anyone else. 659 00:36:57.840 --> 00:36:58.760 It's or Colin Mark. 660 00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:03.599 Dating system is on Jesus Christ, the most important person 661 00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.320 who ever lived. He split the river of the ages 662 00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:09.719 asunday here is the hymne of history. All of history 663 00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:12.559 is dated BC before Christ and Antidomity in the year 664 00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:15.719 of our Lord AD. And they might even try to 665 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:20.000 change it out to BCE and CE, but it's still 666 00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.159 centered around the life of Jesus Christ. He is the 667 00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:28.159 one who split our dating system into going backwards in 668 00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:31.599 BC and FORD and AD. So even the very name 669 00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:35.320 Paras Olympics twenty twenty four tests fast to Christ. Every atheist, 670 00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:38.239 pagan and blasphema tests fast to the centransit of chrust 671 00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:41.119 when a rite to date, and even the fact that 672 00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:43.800 we have a seven day week is because of the 673 00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:46.159 acts of creation. God created the world in six days 674 00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:49.039 in the rest in the seventies. The very name restaurant, 675 00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:54.480 it first came from Paris, and it came from the 676 00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:57.519 scripture Matthew eleven twenty eight, coming to me, all you're 677 00:37:57.599 --> 00:37:59.159 very in heavy light, and I will give you rest. 678 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.039 The whole scripture is put on the outside of the 679 00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:05.960 first establishment for easy in a pleasant environment. And over 680 00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:08.360 the years they shortened it to restaurant, which of course 681 00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:11.480 it's all the French. But the very term restaurant tests 682 00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:14.880 for us to this came from Christianity. And there's so 683 00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:18.000 many things that in our society we take for granted, 684 00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:21.360 like if you say goodbye, it comes from the older English, 685 00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:24.079 God be with you. That's why the spelling is so 686 00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:27.159 you know, it's an English prayer, God go with you. 687 00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:31.079 And in fact, if you go to Austria today they 688 00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:34.920 greet you with bruesport or greetings in God. In Switzerland' 689 00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:39.079 abbreviate to Gritsy and so again again you can see 690 00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:43.000 Christianity is throughout our Western societies and they're forgetting it. 691 00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:45.360 In fact, they're not forgetting it, they deliberately trying to 692 00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:48.800 obscure it and denigrate it and replace it with debauchery. 693 00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:51.880 There's a consistent effort in Europe, especially by the EU. 694 00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:53.000 Just think of that. 695 00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:56.119 European Union has built their parliament in Strasburg, and I've 696 00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:56.440 been there. 697 00:38:56.480 --> 00:38:57.960 It's like the Tower of Babel. 698 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:04.519 It's an incomplete building with the even the scaffolding on 699 00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:09.320 the outside. It's based on Google's depiction of the town Babel, 700 00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:13.920 who is a Belgian artist. And you go to Brussels 701 00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:17.199 in a pinia too, they've got a statue outside the 702 00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:20.440 EU building of a woman writing a beast for goodness 703 00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:21.760 s a woman writing a piast? 704 00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:22.599 Why would you do that? 705 00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:23.360 Yeah? 706 00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:27.800 And he's of antiprost. 707 00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:28.280 Yes. 708 00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:31.760 Even Richard Dawkins recently was saying, you know, he still 709 00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:34.760 doesn't like Christianity, but he really likes the fruit of Christianity. 710 00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:36.880 You know, let's cut down the tree, but let's try 711 00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:40.119 to keep the fruit somehow. And Elon Musk in many 712 00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:45.599 ways said similar things, not as not as direct and 713 00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:51.039 as you know, spreading it out like Dawkins said, Oh yeah, 714 00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.920 I love the culture of the Christians, and I love 715 00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:58.519 the cathedrals, and I love the you know, Christmas music 716 00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:01.519 and stuff like that, but that is the type of 717 00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:04.480 thing people. Here's the key, and this is what I 718 00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:06.400 liked about your essay. If you go back and you 719 00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:11.039 look at the original Pagan Olympics, it tells you so 720 00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:13.960 much about their society. And if we look at that 721 00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:17.079 and what the elites are pushing towards, pushing us towards, 722 00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:21.599 we can see what they admire, and we can see 723 00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:23.400 that what they want to do is take us back 724 00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:26.119 to that kind of a situation where there's a few 725 00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:28.159 people running everything and the rest of us are poor 726 00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:31.360 and slaves and living in mud huts. That really is 727 00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:35.360 what they're doing, and of course exercising that against a 728 00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:39.239 lot of the athletes in terms of removing their air conditioning, 729 00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:42.119 removing meat for the most part, having them sleeping on 730 00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:44.360 cardboard beds, and all the rest of this stuff. They 731 00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:49.039 want austerity, they want slavery, and that's what we're going 732 00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:51.719 to get with this kind of pagan society. So I 733 00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:53.599 think it is very interesting to go back and look 734 00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:57.320 at what these people admire and what they worship and 735 00:40:57.400 --> 00:40:59.719 the kind of society that they want to take us into. 736 00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:01.920 An I think that is all there to some degree 737 00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:02.760 in the Olympics. 738 00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:04.639 What do you think it is. 739 00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:06.800 I think you know, what we're seeing is the powers 740 00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:09.199 that should not be of putting on display what they 741 00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:12.079 want as a globalist religion. Now bear in mind Revelation 742 00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:15.000 thirteen warns us of a one world government with a 743 00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:18.320 one world economic system and a one world interfaith's religion. 744 00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:21.719 And so they have it in Revelation thirteen wanting the 745 00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:23.039 beast is wanting to. 746 00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:24.519 Impose a one world religion. 747 00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:28.400 And what's standing in a way, Well, those obnoxious individuals 748 00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:31.800 to say, my conscience is captive word of God, Jesus 749 00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:33.519 is the way, the truth in life. No one comes 750 00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:37.079 the Father. But then they don't want that. They hate Christianity. 751 00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:41.880 Christianity is true, and Christianity, of course, teachers that leaders 752 00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:45.559 should be servants, the very constant of civil servants. I 753 00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:48.840 mean very fact that Britain has a prime minister. A 754 00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:52.400 minister means a deacon, a servant. So the prime minister 755 00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.480 is the first servant. And you've got cabinet ministers who 756 00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:58.119 used to sign the letters to your humble servants. This 757 00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:03.159 comes from Jesus teaching that the lords of the gentiles, 758 00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:06.920 they lorded over them, and they call themselves benefactors. But 759 00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:09.239 it is not to be like that. With you the 760 00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:13.079 greatest amongst, you must be like the least, and like 761 00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:15.400 the youngest. You should be the servant of all. And 762 00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:18.639 so Jesus taught servant leadership, and he modeled servant leadership. 763 00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:21.079 I mean, the Lord got on his knees, took a 764 00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:23.960 towel and cleaned the feet of his servants when his 765 00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:28.519 disciples when people walking with sandals through streets that were 766 00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:31.159 dusty and dirty and filthy, and you know donkeys and 767 00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:33.719 horses walking around, and you can imagine it would have 768 00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:35.800 been a dirty job to clean people's feet when they 769 00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:38.400 came into the house. You'd normally leave your sandals at 770 00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:41.280 the door, but now you're sitting on couches for eating, 771 00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:43.320 so you know that one person says close to that 772 00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:46.679 person's feet, and they want to have clean feet, especially 773 00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:49.000 for the meal time, the lorst lasts supper. The Lord 774 00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:52.920 does the humblest task. And this is this is the 775 00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:56.559 leadership of a Christian. The Christian leader leads from the front, 776 00:42:56.639 --> 00:42:59.880 He leads by example, and he serves. And that is 777 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:03.119 even a Christian concept that we don't have big chiefs 778 00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:06.960 emperors who you know, cost the instructions and like the 779 00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:09.519 pope who expects people to kiss his toes and things 780 00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:13.800 like that. No, Christian leadership is servant leadership, where we 781 00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:16.119 care for the people. You do it as under the 782 00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:19.639 least of these you've done to me. And so why 783 00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.559 would Christianity not be respected and why would people not 784 00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:25.320 be grateful to it? But no, at the Olympics, they're 785 00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:29.800 choosing every single Olympics to celebrate the pagan religions which 786 00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:34.559 all abused women, were involved in, animal cruelty, human sacrifices, 787 00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:39.559 occultism and paganism. Why would they want to replace Christianity 788 00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:43.639 with paganism? And you know who if today wants to 789 00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:45.320 say I think slavery is a good thing, I think 790 00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:47.960 abusive women is a good thing, Well they might think it, 791 00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:50.280 but they're not going to easily say it. But they 792 00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:54.119 want to celebrate and lift up that which is pro 793 00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:57.920 slavery and pro debauchery and paganism and abusive woman. And 794 00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:01.039 that shows you, as you said earlier, that's the hidden goal. 795 00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:03.519 They must like that. You wouldn't be lifting up and 796 00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:06.199 worshiping it if you don't think it's good and a model. 797 00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:08.480 And what if you want for the future you I'm 798 00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:12.079 not going to spend in some cases one hundred one 799 00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:16.079 hundred million pounds or one hundred million euros on opening 800 00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:19.320 ceremonies if it wasn't presenting the message you want. I 801 00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:23.119 wouldn't spend a dime on a printing job or any 802 00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:26.239 project that didn't draw offy price and present the Solar 803 00:44:26.280 --> 00:44:28.280 scripture a personal beliefs that are at the hearts of 804 00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:31.360 my faith. And I can begt that these pagans are 805 00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:34.039 not going to be putting one hundred million euros into 806 00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:37.159 something that that don't wholeheartedly agree with. And just like 807 00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:39.719 I proof read every single line in letter over and 808 00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:42.599 over before I give the authorization for the printer to 809 00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:44.920 go ahead with the print job I want done, there's 810 00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:48.760 no way that these powers that be didn't approve everything 811 00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:52.639 of this Olympic before. Somebody thought of this golden cough. 812 00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:55.760 Somebody thought of this pale writer. Somebody thought of a 813 00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:59.639 decaptured Mary Internet walking around with her head under arm, 814 00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:02.239 and things like this. Somebody thought of let's put some 815 00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:04.920 trans women in the place of Jesus, and let's put 816 00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:09.199 a bunch of freaks in LGBTQ bearded women, and things 817 00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:12.800 like this. With a child, my dear. I mean, what's 818 00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:15.960 a drag queen without a child in this last subject? 819 00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:21.159 And somebody thought to this, and everybody signed off for us. 820 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:24.880 The President of France, the Mayor of Paris, probably the 821 00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:27.840 whole City Council, the whole IOC, the must have all 822 00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:30.440 approved us ahead of time. It wouldn't have gone ahead 823 00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:33.280 without their approval, all the way up to national and international. 824 00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:35.840 So this what they're telling us is, this is what 825 00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:37.559 we believe, is what we stand for. This is what 826 00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:41.199 we want, which includes nothing but contempt for Christianity, not 827 00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:45.960 even an acknowledgment of Christianity, as depicted in the Notre 828 00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:47.719 Dame and the Notre Dame cathedral. 829 00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:48.039 I've been. 830 00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:52.119 There's a magnificent cathedral stood for a thousand years. It's 831 00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:55.760 burned down. Interesting, while Notre Dame was burning, it was 832 00:45:56.679 --> 00:45:59.800 while it was still burning, President Macron said, Arston has been. 833 00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:03.679 It's not as others. In a fibergate, you cannot determine that. 834 00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:07.800 You cannot determine the cause of a fire before the 835 00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:10.480 fire is out. It takes a lot of forensics afterwards. 836 00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:12.519 And in the fibergate we were often being rushed to 837 00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:15.280 give a verdict. We would not give a verdict until 838 00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:19.800 we had examined the evidence. And yet the Paris fire 839 00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.719 department and police department not allowed to investigate. They were 840 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:26.280 just told that and the president said, we've ruled out Arsen. 841 00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:28.480 That was a year where there were a thousand two 842 00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:32.880 hundred attacks on churches in France in one year, a 843 00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:37.599 thousand two hundred, and that's churches desecrated, bond burned, damage 844 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:40.800 in different ways, all by Muslim je artists, but not 845 00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:44.400 to damn the most iconic picture of Paris, the greatest 846 00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:48.960 architectural masterpiece in France. That was definitely not Arsen, I 847 00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:52.280 said the present. So they just could not afford to 848 00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:55.079 allow people to see this is the fruit of our multiculturalism, 849 00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:57.960 bringing people hate Christianity and so on. And they had 850 00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:01.599 spaces of arson attack it yet and that just does 851 00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:03.400 not to them. You can't even look there. For us, 852 00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:07.039 it's not awesome, ruled out. The fireman was still fighting 853 00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:09.920 the fire, the fires were still blazing, and Chris McConn 854 00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:12.199 really put it down, this is not awesome. 855 00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:13.119 We've ruled it out. 856 00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:16.320 And how could they on a political basis, but not 857 00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:17.960 in a forensic basis, that's for sure. 858 00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:21.440 Well, and of course the true arseness was Macron himself. 859 00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:24.679 He wants to burn down the country and he knows 860 00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:27.760 he can do it with the migrants and the policies 861 00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:31.840 that they have. But it truly is amazing. And you know, 862 00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:35.840 we've had again several people recently from Dawkins to Elon 863 00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:39.679 Musk talking about the fruit of Christianity, but of course 864 00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:42.719 they reject the root of Christianity. You can't have Christianity 865 00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:46.079 without Christ. You can't have Christianity without the Bible. They 866 00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:49.679 don't want any of that morality. They don't want Christ 867 00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:51.800 at the center of this. And we can see if 868 00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:54.480 we look back where this is all taking us in 869 00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:57.440 the future, if we go down that dark path. It's 870 00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:01.639 great talking to you and very insightful. I really enjoyed 871 00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:04.639 listening to you. And let me give your website again. 872 00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:08.840 And is it mission plural or mission singular? Frontline mission? 873 00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:13.719 Miss bookland mission is a okay, frontline mission s A 874 00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:17.519 dot org is where people can go to find your 875 00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:20.960 books that you have there as well as to keep 876 00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:24.280 up with the busy life and ministry that you've got 877 00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:26.760 going there in South Africa. And it truly is amazing 878 00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:31.119 all the different places that you have gone uh in 879 00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:34.480 hostile areas that you have gone in terms of Marxists 880 00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:39.360 as well as Muslims, and the different areas and amazing 881 00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:44.239 stories that you've got about how God has taken his 882 00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:46.480 word in different places. And so I really do appreciate 883 00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:51.920 your faithfulness and fearlessness and putting that out there and 884 00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:54.039 taking it into these dark areas. We just have to 885 00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:56.400 make sure that we keep the lights on here at 886 00:48:56.440 --> 00:48:57.079 home as well. 887 00:48:57.159 --> 00:48:59.639 Right at starting to go. 888 00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:03.039 Out, I'm getting deeply concerned for the West, and I 889 00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:06.199 think back to how Gineral William Booth wrote the book 890 00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:09.519 in Darkest England back in eighteen hundreds, but I think 891 00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:11.920 that's more true now. So much in the West, the 892 00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:14.440 capitals of the West, France and Britain are turning away 893 00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:18.719 from Christ and turning deliberately to paganism. Atheism is long 894 00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:22.920 anything but Christianity. And I'm deeply concerned in the United States, 895 00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:25.400 and your whole future is at stake, and I trust 896 00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:28.039 that people are praying for a biblical return. We need 897 00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:30.480 it back to the Bible Reformation. We need a heaven 898 00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:32.639 send holy Spirit and powered revival. 899 00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:34.880 That's right, We've going to come from the bottom up. 900 00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:36.840 It's going to start with each and every one of us, 901 00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:39.800 and so that's us to start with us family, you know, 902 00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:41.360 and then moves up to the government. 903 00:49:41.400 --> 00:49:45.320 That truly is there's no salvation in politics. Anyone who's 904 00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:48.559 waiting for the government to save us is definitely deluded. 905 00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:51.280 We've got to start on the ground, up streets, evangelism, 906 00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:55.199 personal prayer, family by family devotions, one individual at a time. 907 00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:58.519 We've got to win our countries back to Christ. Europe 908 00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:01.519 became Christian by the who hard of missionies like Bonifest 909 00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:04.719 and evangelists like George Whitfield and John Wesley. We've got 910 00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:07.400 to have these hard core of angelists, the deal moodies 911 00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:10.800 that transprigents. We need dedicated servants of God, and we 912 00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:14.719 need the foot soldiers on the ground too, winning neighbors, 913 00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:17.639 friends and families to Christ. We've got to work very 914 00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:21.280 vigorously because our whole civilization is in danger of falling 915 00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:25.039 to chaos and paganism. We don't want ad age of paganism. 916 00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:27.800 We want to go further into the future in the 917 00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:30.280 lights of Christ. And I think you've just seen in 918 00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:33.679 Paris some of the darkness, including a full on blackout 919 00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:36.039 across the whole city of Paris the day after the 920 00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:40.960 mocking of Christ at the insane opening Cerebonies. 921 00:50:41.239 --> 00:50:45.119 Yeah, yeah, that was interesting, wasn't like that? 922 00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:49.119 Absolutely? So, yeah, it is. It's going to be done 923 00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:51.199 one by one. They want to they want to destroy 924 00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:54.119 the family. Men need to take the leadership in this. 925 00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:56.880 But the hand that rocks the cradle rules of the world. 926 00:50:56.920 --> 00:50:59.239 As I used to always say, that's why they don't 927 00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:03.519 want families. They don't want motherhood. Motherhood is devalued like 928 00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:05.920 everything else. But that's that's the important thing. So we 929 00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:07.880 take it back from the bottom up. We take it 930 00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:11.239 back with our relationship with Christ, our family's relationship with Christ. 931 00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:15.880 Frontline missionsa dot Org. Thank you so much, Peter Hamman 932 00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:16.559 appreciate it. 933 00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:17.519 Thank you. 934 00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:19.519 And if I can say last words here and that 935 00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:22.800 is the best way for you to revolt against this revolting, 936 00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:27.199 disgusting New World disorder is to be straight, get converted, 937 00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:30.880 love Christ, study your Bible, get married, have lots of children, 938 00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:33.639 homeschool them. I mean, this is this is the way 939 00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:35.840 that we will beat the New World order. When we 940 00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:38.719 you know, they want you to abandon Christ. We embrace Christ. 941 00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:41.000 They want you to keep quiet, we will preach the gospel. 942 00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:43.280 They don't want you to pray. We will pray. So 943 00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:46.199 the thing is whatever the state and the globalist new 944 00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:48.679 world order in Hollywood's telling you to do do the opposites. 945 00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:50.079 And that's a pretty good rule of something. 946 00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:52.719 That's the way to do it. Thank you so much, Peter, 947 00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:55.519 appreciate it. Have a get Thank you, David, Thank you, 948 00:51:55.559 --> 00:53:23.280 God bless you. AI parenting tips these are the you know, 949 00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:25.239 this is the AI that's going to make decisions about 950 00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:27.119 whether or not you should be able to get a 951 00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:30.880 home loan or move into a rental place, all these 952 00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:38.159 types of things. And the question is about Google's AI 953 00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:43.079 telling parents giving parents a tip on how to potty 954 00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:47.360 train their young children, telling them that they need to 955 00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:54.119 smear poop on a balloon. I think smearing poop on 956 00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:58.719 a balloon is why you potty train them. How to 957 00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:03.760 teach wiping during potty training, the AI says, make it fun. 958 00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:06.639 You can try a balloon bathroom activity where you put 959 00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:08.360 a little poo on a balloon and then tape it 960 00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:12.760 to a chair. Have your child practice reaching around to 961 00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:18.159 wipe the balloon. Well, this may be a excrement hits 962 00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:24.639 the fan scenario. That thing pops right the idea, And 963 00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:26.519 where did it get this idea? It looked at a 964 00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:29.000 video that's out there that is one of the high 965 00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:33.800 ranking videos, and what the person was doing was they 966 00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:38.239 were showing shaving cream or they were showing peanut butter 967 00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:40.360 or something like that. I mean, put this on the 968 00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:44.559 balloon and teach your kid about wiping, you know, using 969 00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:48.760 this Pooh you know, quote unquote Pooh. Well AI didn't 970 00:54:48.840 --> 00:54:52.760 get the fact that that was not actually Pooh, first 971 00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:55.239 of all. Secondly, I don't know who came up with 972 00:54:55.280 --> 00:54:57.039 this kind of crazy idea anyway. I mean, do you 973 00:54:57.079 --> 00:55:01.360 really need to you really need to model wiping by 974 00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:04.679 putting I don't think you're gonna need to do this, Dravis. 975 00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:07.239 I'm not giving you any parenting tips here, but I 976 00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:09.519 except I would say, this is absolutely not the way 977 00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:14.480 it has been taught for many, many generations. If you 978 00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:16.920 do this and it worked out for you, that's fine. 979 00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:20.039 Don't write meaning letters. I don't want to know. But 980 00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:25.000 they emphasized shaving cream or peanut butter. But Google AI 981 00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:30.599 did not get that memo. So when we asked Google 982 00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:33.239 point blank whether it was a good idea to wipe 983 00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:37.000 poop on a balloon. It said yes, and then it 984 00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:40.079 broke down the balloon method in detail, telling us that 985 00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:41.880 we should use a little bit of poop, start with 986 00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:43.480 a small amount of poop, yeah, and then you can 987 00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:47.960 build up two big amounts of poop until it pops. 988 00:55:48.679 --> 00:55:52.599 And so again, it came from it's misunderstanding. But those 989 00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:57.199 are the that's what we should have making decisions. And 990 00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:02.360 in Nevada they've always California grabbing nuisance, wants to do 991 00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:04.599 it for a lot of different departments. But in Nevada 992 00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:08.159 they've already started putting AI in charge of deciding whether 993 00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:10.679 or not somebody should be able to get unemployment benefits 994 00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:14.320 and paid Google. The same people are telling you to 995 00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:19.400 put poop on a balloon. They got these wonderful experts 996 00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:23.079 with their science, you know, the science like PCR stuff 997 00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:28.920 and everything. And here's the problem, these kind of decisions. 998 00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:34.440 As they bring in artificial intelligence into government, into banking, 999 00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:40.280 into you know, rental property owns, AI is going to 1000 00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:46.079 rapidly be seen as unchallengeable because hey, it's an expert, 1001 00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:50.960 it's the computer, it's science, right, it's all. And fifty 1002 00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:53.519 years ago they were telling people don't trust this simply 1003 00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:56.679 because you got a computer print out, garbage in, garbage out, 1004 00:56:57.519 --> 00:56:59.639 just because somebody did a computer model or a program 1005 00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:03.480 that does make it right. This does not have some 1006 00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:07.719 special anointing from God because it's a computer print out, 1007 00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:11.000 you know, with somebody who put that in for as 1008 00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:14.679 a human who put that in there, and they all 1009 00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:18.360 humans are putting all kinds of bias and nonsense into 1010 00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:25.440 the AI stuff as well. But nevertheless, that memo, just 1011 00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:29.199 like the usual poop on the balloon, the fact that 1012 00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:32.639 you don't give real credibility to these computer print outs, 1013 00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:36.719 that's somehow been lost on people. That's harder to understand 1014 00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:38.840 than the fact that the AI would think that it 1015 00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:42.360 was real poop on the balloon. People think that this 1016 00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:45.239 is real truth because it came out of a computer. 1017 00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:51.639 All right, welcome back and joining us now is Jay 1018 00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:54.719 Warner Wallace. He's been a guest once before. We've talked 1019 00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:58.639 about his background. He was a cold case detective. This 1020 00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:02.800 is somebody who goes back and investigates murder cases, things 1021 00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:05.800 that don't have a statud limitations, murder cases where perhaps 1022 00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:09.119 all the witnesses have died and he's just going back 1023 00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:11.559 looking at the physical evidence of it. He's now written 1024 00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:13.760 a book called The Truth and True Crime, and I 1025 00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:18.920 love the tagline here, when investigating death teaches us about 1026 00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:22.400 the meaning of life. It looks like a fantastic book, 1027 00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:23.599 and so I wanted to get him on to talk 1028 00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:24.320 about that one as well. 1029 00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:25.440 Thank you for joining us, sir. 1030 00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:28.039 Well, thanks for having me. I really appreciate. This is 1031 00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:30.360 my favorite book I've written so far, so I'm glad 1032 00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:31.119 to talk about it. 1033 00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:33.280 Oh, it looks like a great angle, and you know, 1034 00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:35.599 and something that you know really affects all of us, 1035 00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:39.440 and everybody loves the crime aspect, and the things that 1036 00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:41.679 you glean from it too are really interesting. 1037 00:59:41.719 --> 00:59:44.400 I think, Yeah, I think there's actually some hidden Like 1038 00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:46.960 I was not a Christian through all my career, but 1039 00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:49.320 to you know, the first eight years or so, I 1040 00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:51.400 was not a believer until I was thirty five. I 1041 00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:55.719 became a believer by examining the Gospels kind of from 1042 00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:58.400 a forensic perspective. How do we know or why would 1043 00:59:58.400 --> 01:00:01.519 we trust if we tested these people was eyewitnesses. Why 1044 01:00:01.559 --> 01:00:03.920 would we even think Number one, that they are written 1045 01:00:03.960 --> 01:00:07.719 by eyewitnesses or even anybody who had access to eyewitnesses? 1046 01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:09.760 And if you did believe that, how would you test 1047 01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:12.639 them to see if they could pass the test? Now, 1048 01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:15.400 once I was in I started to look at human 1049 01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:18.159 behavior a little bit differently. Right, if you work murders, 1050 01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:22.719 you are seeing people at their rawest point, the point 1051 01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:26.840 at which all of the kind of bars are off. 1052 01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:29.239 I mean, this is Sadly, when you get to the 1053 01:00:29.239 --> 01:00:31.239 point where you're willing to do something crazy like this, 1054 01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:34.360 it's probably because you've been pushed to a certain limit 1055 01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:37.079 and your true nature is now going to be revealed, 1056 01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:40.960 and it really, I think, exposes all of our true nature. 1057 01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:42.639 So I wanted to write a book that has talked 1058 01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:46.199 about like, what are these attributes fifteen attributes of human 1059 01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:50.440 flourishing that I discovered in fifteen separate crime stories, and 1060 01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:52.880 then talk about you know, is that something number one 1061 01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:55.599 that Yeah, secular people, they do studies on this and 1062 01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:57.719 they confirmed that this is these are fifteen things that 1063 01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:00.920 if you simply embrace these fifteen principles you will have 1064 01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:03.719 a better life. But it turns out these are fifteen 1065 01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:09.199 ancient descriptions of human nature from scripture that people, for 1066 01:01:09.239 --> 01:01:11.280 the most part, think they're discovering them. In the last 1067 01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:14.239 three three decades, when in fact, these have been on 1068 01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:16.599 the pages of the New Testament for two thousand years. 1069 01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:18.519 And so I really wanted to do a book where 1070 01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:20.239 I kind of demonstrated. 1071 01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:22.800 That that's amazing. Yeah, it's And why did you do 1072 01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:27.159 a forensic investigation of Christianity in the first place. 1073 01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:29.920 Well, I was thirty five, so I was probably about 1074 01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:32.480 nineteen ninety five or six, right in that range. It 1075 01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:35.000 took me about eighteen months, I would say, to complete 1076 01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:37.880 that stuff. That was I was so skeptical and not 1077 01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:41.079 raised around Christians or anybody really believed in God in 1078 01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:43.800 a way they could articulate. So I didn't have like 1079 01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:46.280 a leg up like somebody who could say, hey, look 1080 01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:47.760 at this or look at that. I had to commit 1081 01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:50.000 a raw and so I bought my first Bible. I 1082 01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:51.679 was thirty five, and it took me a while to 1083 01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:54.079 kind of go through the Gospels, and I was just 1084 01:01:54.159 --> 01:01:56.880 tearing them apart from just word usage, you know, all 1085 01:01:56.920 --> 01:01:59.079 the attributes. I wrote about this in a book called 1086 01:01:59.079 --> 01:02:02.880 Cold Case Christianity, and that book just kind of covers 1087 01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:06.000 that journey. But that's something that'll get you to the 1088 01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:08.400 point where you might believe it's true. Look, I think 1089 01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:12.039 that as a boomer, as somebody who's older, I have 1090 01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:14.840 a high value for whether something is true or not, 1091 01:02:15.079 --> 01:02:17.599 and there are people in my generation would probably agree, 1092 01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:19.599 But I don't know that that's the case for young 1093 01:02:19.639 --> 01:02:23.039 people Gen Z and millennials. I think they're not as 1094 01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:26.000 concerned about whether something's true because they've co opted that 1095 01:02:26.079 --> 01:02:29.400 word that war doesn't mean it's true anymore. It means 1096 01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:30.039 it's true for me. 1097 01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:30.840 That's right. 1098 01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:33.280 It's true based on my lived experience, or it's true 1099 01:02:33.280 --> 01:02:35.480 based on how I have applied it to my life. 1100 01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:36.920 Doesn't mean it's true for them. 1101 01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:37.480 Now. 1102 01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:39.119 When I use the word true, I'm using it in 1103 01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:41.400 a more objective way. But it's true for all of us, 1104 01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:43.719 whether we like it or not. I think that this 1105 01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:47.119 generation I'm talking to now is more concerned about whether 1106 01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:50.280 or not it's good because they believe they've been sold 1107 01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:53.960 by the culture that Christianity is the source behind every 1108 01:02:54.199 --> 01:03:00.719 evil intent, misogyny, racism, homophobia, whatever it may be. It's 1109 01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:02.880 really they are going to attribute to it to this 1110 01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:07.039 traditional Western culture worldview that we hold as Christians. So 1111 01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:10.079 I wanted to show that, Yeah, but if you didn't 1112 01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:16.199 believe in Christianity, you're probably already employing its teaching if 1113 01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:20.360 you're flourishing, and the more you detach from its teaching, 1114 01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:23.440 the more you're going to struggle. So I just look, 1115 01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:26.679 this is what we're seeing in culture, And so I 1116 01:03:26.679 --> 01:03:28.719 wrote a book this time which really looks at all 1117 01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:30.920 of the data. So most of my books I spent 1118 01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:33.119 a lot of time researching. And although this book has 1119 01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:36.840 about fifty pages in the printed edition of footnotes, there 1120 01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:40.360 are two hundred pages in the PDF file we provide online. 1121 01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:43.239 Why because I want you to see that if I'm 1122 01:03:43.280 --> 01:03:46.079 making this claim, it's supported by the data. But it 1123 01:03:46.199 --> 01:03:49.000 turns out that that data simply supports what was claimed 1124 01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:52.320 in Scripture two thousand years ago. So it's eye opening 1125 01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:55.880 for me to realize that our human It makes sense though. 1126 01:03:55.960 --> 01:03:58.880 Think about it. If we are designed by a creator 1127 01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:01.599 God who knows something about us, and we are in 1128 01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:04.800 his image, then it turns out that that book we 1129 01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:08.320 have called Scripture called the Bible, ought to describe us 1130 01:04:08.360 --> 01:04:11.400 the way we really are. Yes, And if it does 1131 01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:13.840 describe us the way we really are, you could consider 1132 01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:17.480 that at least I was listening to a pundit who 1133 01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:21.639 usually talks about politics recently, who's Jewish, and when asked 1134 01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:25.639 when he defends why he's Jewish, he says, well, because 1135 01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:29.800 it turns out that these principles work. M Oh, that's interesting, 1136 01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:32.400 and he sees that as an evidence that the worldview 1137 01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:35.840 is true. Okay, And by the way, that may or 1138 01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:38.000 may not be an evidence that your worldview is true. 1139 01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:40.840 But it strikes me that if your worldview is true, 1140 01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:43.599 it ought to describe you the way you really are. 1141 01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:45.960 And so in that sense, it could provide you with 1142 01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:49.639 some insight into your human nature and how you could flourish. 1143 01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:52.440 Yeah, it would be necessary, not necessarily sufficient, but it 1144 01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:53.519 would be necessary for that. 1145 01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:55.280 Yeah, true, right, that's right, exactly right. 1146 01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:59.400 Yeah, what's the most surprising thing that you found out 1147 01:04:59.400 --> 01:04:59.960 about human being? 1148 01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:01.519 And investigating this? 1149 01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:04.880 Well, so every chapter is a crime story, right. So 1150 01:05:04.920 --> 01:05:07.199 in one of these stories, I talk about celebrity and 1151 01:05:07.239 --> 01:05:10.519 how sometimes when you are a local, especially in the 1152 01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:13.519 gang cultures, if you're somebody who's known locally, you kind 1153 01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:15.519 of become like a celebrity in your own neighborhood or 1154 01:05:15.519 --> 01:05:17.320 at least in your own click or your own gang. 1155 01:05:17.800 --> 01:05:19.719 And I've got one of these stories here to show 1156 01:05:19.559 --> 01:05:23.719 how detrimental our pursuit of celebrity is. And the reason 1157 01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:25.719 why I wrote that chapter is because I don't think 1158 01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:28.400 it's just it's not just a few of us who 1159 01:05:28.480 --> 01:05:32.000 are seeking celebrity anymore. I mean, there are no gatekeepers. 1160 01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:34.360 You know this, even think about it. We are able 1161 01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:37.639 not to develop our own personal platforms without a gatekeeper 1162 01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:41.159 at NBC, ABC or CBS that used to be or 1163 01:05:41.320 --> 01:05:43.880 Salem right whatever the radio station was that used to 1164 01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:46.679 be the gate cape keepers that kept people from becoming 1165 01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:49.519 a celebrity. Those are gone. So now all of us, 1166 01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:52.480 if we can develop a following, we can make it 1167 01:05:52.480 --> 01:05:57.000 from zero to a million listeners without any support. And 1168 01:05:57.039 --> 01:05:59.360 that's where I think we have to be careful. It 1169 01:05:59.400 --> 01:06:04.480 turns out the one of the most powerful attributes that 1170 01:06:04.519 --> 01:06:07.199 we could adopt as humans that would change your life. 1171 01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:11.280 As a matter of fact, if you simply embraced this virtue, 1172 01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:15.800 you will have increased flourishing in every single metric that 1173 01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:19.760 we use to actually measure human flourishing, longevity, mental health, 1174 01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:23.440 physical health, the deepness of your relationships. That will improve 1175 01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:26.119 your marriage. I'll make you a better employer, a better employee. 1176 01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:28.519 You'll learn at a higher level, you'll get better grades, 1177 01:06:28.559 --> 01:06:31.559 you'll make more money. I mean, every way that we 1178 01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:37.199 measure flourishing improves if you simply adopt this one thing, 1179 01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:41.079 and it's really the opposite of celebrity. It is the 1180 01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:44.679 attribute we know as humility. Now, they've been studying this 1181 01:06:44.719 --> 01:06:47.480 for about three decades and looking at all kinds of 1182 01:06:47.480 --> 01:06:50.440 studies that are out there that talks about how humble 1183 01:06:50.519 --> 01:06:54.239 people succeed at levels that are far higher than the 1184 01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:56.480 rest of us, and why that might be true. Okay, fine, 1185 01:06:57.320 --> 01:06:59.920 but it turns out that humility is one of those. 1186 01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:02.000 I think if I ask people, hey, what do you 1187 01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:04.320 think the one attribute you could adopt that would help 1188 01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:06.480 you in every aspect of your life at a higher 1189 01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:08.519 level than anything else, I don't think many people would 1190 01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:12.760 come up with humility. Yeah, but it turns out, yeah, 1191 01:07:12.800 --> 01:07:15.639 it is actually the thing we need to embrace. Now, 1192 01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:19.559 what's interesting about that. Think about every worldview that's out there, 1193 01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:24.599 None of them leverage humility, like the Christian worldview. What 1194 01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:28.519 I mean is, if your theistic worldview, your spiritual worldview, 1195 01:07:29.079 --> 01:07:32.400 encourages you to do these certain things to reach the 1196 01:07:32.519 --> 01:07:36.119 highest level that your spiritual worldview offers. In other words, 1197 01:07:36.519 --> 01:07:39.360 if it is about earning something, it's a transaction between 1198 01:07:39.360 --> 01:07:41.719 you and God, a transaction between you and the universe. 1199 01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:44.480 There's no way to avoid pride in that kind of 1200 01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:46.599 a system, because at some point you're going to look 1201 01:07:46.599 --> 01:07:48.760 across the room and say, I'm doing better than that did. 1202 01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:52.400 We measure based on our achievements, right. And I have 1203 01:07:52.440 --> 01:07:55.079 a friend who's now no longer with this name, Mike Adams. 1204 01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:56.960 Mike and I would travel and do a lot of 1205 01:07:57.000 --> 01:07:58.960 events together, and he used to always tease Hey. Ill 1206 01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:03.079 writ in this book how to become a humble in 1207 01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:05.719 ten easy steps and how I made it in eight 1208 01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:09.440 You know, it's like this, there's no way that you 1209 01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:13.519 can pursue humility without at some point doing just the 1210 01:08:13.559 --> 01:08:17.199 opposite and becoming prideful. So it turns out that humility 1211 01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:20.479 is something you It's an assessment. Spurgeon calls it the 1212 01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:23.640 proper assessment of who we are before a holy God. 1213 01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:28.960 Now Christianity leverages this because it's the one worldview that says, no, 1214 01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:31.840 it's not a transaction. There's nothing you can do to 1215 01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:33.960 earn this. As a matter of fact, if whatever the 1216 01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:36.880 highest thing you think you hope to achieve in your 1217 01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:39.079 worldview is, we're going to give it to you. It's 1218 01:08:39.079 --> 01:08:42.039 a free gift over here. Why so that Paul says, 1219 01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:47.600 no one can boast. It's an antidote to pride and celebrity. 1220 01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:50.199 It's an antidote to look what I did is look 1221 01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:53.399 what's been done for me. This view requires us to 1222 01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:55.920 begin in humility, because to say that, Okay, there is 1223 01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:58.720 God and it's not me, well, it's a very humble position. 1224 01:08:58.920 --> 01:09:00.479 I'm not the God of my own I'm not the 1225 01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:04.640 center of my own decision making universe. Well, this begins 1226 01:09:04.680 --> 01:09:08.159 and ends in our savior, says Pulses, have the attitude 1227 01:09:08.159 --> 01:09:10.560 that Jesus had, who, although he existed in the form 1228 01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:12.840 of God, did not regard equality with God a thing 1229 01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:15.840 to be grasped, but instead emptied himself taking the form 1230 01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:18.960 of a bond servant, taking the form. In other words, 1231 01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:22.600 it's all humility start to finish, And as difficult as 1232 01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:25.920 that is for us to achieve, if we don't recognize 1233 01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:29.520 its power in our lives, we'll never even try to submit, 1234 01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:32.960 will never even begin to let go of the things 1235 01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:35.760 that possess us. So I just want to spend one 1236 01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:38.560 chapter in these fifteen chapters talking about the role that 1237 01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:41.800 celebrity plays. And by the way, almost every crime you're 1238 01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:44.960 going to, every crime you're going to commit, is driven 1239 01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:50.640 by different chapter. But these three prideful motives, it's the 1240 01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:53.159 pursuit of money, the pursuit of sex, or the pursuit 1241 01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:56.279 of power. Now, that pursuit of power, that's a huge 1242 01:09:56.319 --> 01:10:02.119 category of misbehavior, and that's where celebrity fits all of us. Look, 1243 01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:05.079 you and I both would we like more people to 1244 01:10:05.159 --> 01:10:08.000 listen to what we're saying. Of course we would. So 1245 01:10:08.199 --> 01:10:11.239 although we might protect ourselves from the pursuit of money 1246 01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:15.079 and the pursuit of sex, knowing that that can derail us, 1247 01:10:16.119 --> 01:10:19.199 we don't usually protect ourselves from the pursuit of celebrity. 1248 01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:22.640 In fact, what we typically do is want to increase 1249 01:10:22.680 --> 01:10:25.479 that area of our life. So we can We'll argue, oh, 1250 01:10:25.720 --> 01:10:29.159 because I want to reach more people with this divine message. Really, 1251 01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:32.319 so we will increase the celebrity. Now, now here's the 1252 01:10:32.399 --> 01:10:34.279 danger in it, and this is a different chapter, But 1253 01:10:34.319 --> 01:10:37.840 there's a danger in this. I have never known anyone 1254 01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:41.159 of those three motives for misbehavior, and there are only three. 1255 01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:44.399 There's not a fourth motive. There isn't. Now you can 1256 01:10:44.439 --> 01:10:47.520 discover this secularly working as a homicide detective, or you 1257 01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:49.520 can discover this on the pages of Scripture because John 1258 01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:51.600 writes about it in one of his letters. But the 1259 01:10:51.720 --> 01:10:54.560 point is, those are only three motives out there for stupid, 1260 01:10:55.079 --> 01:10:57.239 and if you don't protect yourself from those three motives 1261 01:10:57.239 --> 01:10:58.840 for stupid, you will eventually do one of them. Now 1262 01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:02.039 here's what I've noticed. If you begin to scratch one 1263 01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:04.800 of those itches, you will eventually scratch the other two 1264 01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:08.159 because the other two become available to you on the 1265 01:11:08.199 --> 01:11:11.239 basis of what you've achieved in the third. So you 1266 01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:14.159 see this, and even Christian leaders right where they fall 1267 01:11:14.239 --> 01:11:17.720 for someone. Why, Well, here's why, in my opinion, is 1268 01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:20.520 because as a congregation, or as your deacon board or 1269 01:11:20.520 --> 01:11:23.119 your elder board, they're trying to protect their pastors from 1270 01:11:23.159 --> 01:11:27.119 the sex and money. But everyone wants their pastor to 1271 01:11:27.159 --> 01:11:29.439 be known more so they can build a bigger church. 1272 01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:33.680 And when you increase your celebrity, you only open the 1273 01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:38.399 door to the other two. So this is why I've 1274 01:11:38.399 --> 01:11:41.279 struggled with this even in writing this book, because as 1275 01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:43.239 I'm writing this book, if I'm going to heed my 1276 01:11:43.359 --> 01:11:47.279 own advice, I have to do less of this because 1277 01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:50.119 it turns out all of this talking about a book 1278 01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:54.720 you've written is about you trying to amplify your platform, 1279 01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:57.960 amplify your influence in culture. And that's I think there's 1280 01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:00.640 a good by the way. All three of these things 1281 01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:04.079 have been designed by God for his glory and for 1282 01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:08.079 our good. We just happened to distort them. So sex, money, 1283 01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:09.880 in power is something that God is giving us in 1284 01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:12.439 a positive way. This is another chapter in the book. 1285 01:12:12.439 --> 01:12:15.399 It's a chapter about a guy who was basically homeless 1286 01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:18.680 and was killed. And I'm thinking, what are these three motives? 1287 01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:22.079 What did this killer have to gain from this homeless 1288 01:12:22.119 --> 01:12:25.319 guy who was so sweet They called him Santa Claus 1289 01:12:25.319 --> 01:12:27.399 because he looked like Santa Claus and he was as 1290 01:12:27.399 --> 01:12:30.439 sweet as Santa Claus. And what does he offer in 1291 01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:32.880 terms of sex, money, or power that would be worthy 1292 01:12:32.920 --> 01:12:35.359 of killing him? Well, here's what happens is that when 1293 01:12:35.359 --> 01:12:37.960 we focus on those things that are given to us 1294 01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:40.199 by God instead of on the God who gave him 1295 01:12:40.239 --> 01:12:42.840 to us, we're stopping one level short of our worship. 1296 01:12:42.880 --> 01:12:46.319 And we all worship. Everyone worships, whether you're a believer 1297 01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:49.239 or not. There is something that you think as of 1298 01:12:49.439 --> 01:12:53.359 utmost importance that you dare not take that from me, 1299 01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:57.039 because that's the thing that I covet and this idolatry 1300 01:12:57.680 --> 01:13:01.479 is what causes us. So in this particular case, this 1301 01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:03.800 poor guy had had slipped over. They were he was 1302 01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:04.720 recycling stuff. 1303 01:13:05.159 --> 01:13:05.520 Every day. 1304 01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:06.920 He would go out, spend the first half of his 1305 01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:09.760 day picking up trash cans, going through trash cans and 1306 01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:11.880 picking up recyclables. Then he would take them to the 1307 01:13:11.880 --> 01:13:14.439 recycling center and get this stuff money to go, and 1308 01:13:14.479 --> 01:13:17.359 he would buy alcohol and food in the afternoon. And 1309 01:13:17.479 --> 01:13:20.720 that was his day every day, very very workmanlike. And 1310 01:13:21.239 --> 01:13:24.000 he had slipped into an area of our city that 1311 01:13:24.119 --> 01:13:27.119 another guy who was doing the same thing felt was 1312 01:13:27.159 --> 01:13:30.479 his alley. Don't be picking trash out of those two cans. 1313 01:13:31.039 --> 01:13:33.760 And although the amount of money that Santa Claus probably 1314 01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:38.199 got from that was what pennies dollars, maybe it was enough. 1315 01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:40.880 So he confronted this guy. He confronted the Santa Claus 1316 01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:43.520 and said, don't be doing that anymore at a recycling center, 1317 01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:47.199 and Santa Claus kind of just blew him off. Well, 1318 01:13:47.359 --> 01:13:49.279 it turned out in that one moment he had triggered 1319 01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:51.479 the two of the three things. Number One, he had 1320 01:13:51.479 --> 01:13:54.680 disrespected him. So the idea of power, authority, respect. That's 1321 01:13:54.680 --> 01:13:58.079 in the third category. Now I'm upset because you disrespected 1322 01:13:58.119 --> 01:14:01.479 me in front of my peers two taking pennies or dollars. 1323 01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:05.319 But because I've turned both of these things, I covet 1324 01:14:05.359 --> 01:14:08.039 them at a high level. I've now turned them into idols. 1325 01:14:08.920 --> 01:14:13.079 You are not try to destroy my idols. And that 1326 01:14:13.239 --> 01:14:16.960 night he stabbed him too death over virtually nothing. This 1327 01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:21.239 is the power of idolatry. And by the way, it's 1328 01:14:21.239 --> 01:14:24.439 not just people you work and working homicides, it's all 1329 01:14:24.479 --> 01:14:26.760 of us. And so on that chapter. What I try 1330 01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:29.439 to do in every chapter is show you, hey, if 1331 01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:32.319 this is your struggle, whatever these things are, here's a 1332 01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:34.239 way for you to address it. And in this chapter, 1333 01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:37.199 I just ask fifteen questions, like what you want to 1334 01:14:37.199 --> 01:14:40.039 know what your idols are? Because we all have them, Well, 1335 01:14:40.039 --> 01:14:42.560 ask these fifteen questions and you probably identify them. And 1336 01:14:42.600 --> 01:14:45.399 then once you've identified him, we can start to actually think, Okay, look, 1337 01:14:45.680 --> 01:14:48.000 it's something that God has created it rather than the 1338 01:14:48.079 --> 01:14:51.359 God who created it. We simply have to transfer our 1339 01:14:51.399 --> 01:14:54.279 worship up one levels, just from the level where we're 1340 01:14:54.279 --> 01:14:59.039 stopped in God's creation and back to the creator and 1341 01:14:59.079 --> 01:15:00.800 so it's something that if you you do it, you 1342 01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:04.359 will flourish. Will you will not Number one, you'll protect 1343 01:15:04.359 --> 01:15:07.560 yourself from stupid and number two, you'll actually start to 1344 01:15:07.560 --> 01:15:09.920 pursue the things that contribute to a meaningful life. 1345 01:15:10.479 --> 01:15:13.680 And you do that, you do that with thankfulness because 1346 01:15:13.720 --> 01:15:16.479 when you say you thank God for what that is 1347 01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:18.960 and sincerely think about what it is that God is 1348 01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:21.199 giving you, you look at it as not something that 1349 01:15:21.239 --> 01:15:24.720 you've achieved, then that does move it to the higher level. 1350 01:15:24.920 --> 01:15:26.760 And yeah, with that right. 1351 01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:30.079 Now, I'm I'm skipping across a number of different chapters here, 1352 01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:31.680 but yeah, I think you're right. I think the part 1353 01:15:31.720 --> 01:15:33.920 of it is is that what I've discovered, and it 1354 01:15:33.960 --> 01:15:36.039 is true of all of us, is the least thankful 1355 01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:38.159 people are the people who think they have nothing to 1356 01:15:38.159 --> 01:15:41.199 be thankful for. Or the least forgiving people are the 1357 01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:43.560 people who think they have nothing to be forgiven for. 1358 01:15:43.920 --> 01:15:46.640 So it does turn out that a proper assessment of 1359 01:15:46.680 --> 01:15:50.399 who you are, because it's really easy for me to think, well, 1360 01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:52.880 everything I've got in my life I achieved that. Yes, 1361 01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:56.159 I am the reason for all my success, the reason 1362 01:15:56.239 --> 01:16:00.000 for everything I've ever possessed. Okay, if that's your view. 1363 01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:03.119 You well, that kind of pride is it doesn't lead 1364 01:16:03.119 --> 01:16:06.840 any more positive. That's right, because anytime anyone challenges that 1365 01:16:06.840 --> 01:16:09.479 that might not be the case, you're now offended. And 1366 01:16:09.840 --> 01:16:14.000 so it turns out that whatever it is we've worshiped 1367 01:16:14.079 --> 01:16:18.920 that becomes the master, the Master that you dare not question, 1368 01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:22.520 the Master that I'm now willing to give up tons 1369 01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:24.319 of time for resources for. 1370 01:16:26.199 --> 01:16:28.720 I can say that, you know, I had that early 1371 01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:30.680 on when I was young. I had a lot of 1372 01:16:30.680 --> 01:16:33.199 successful a lot of stuff very easily, and I did 1373 01:16:33.239 --> 01:16:36.039 think it was what I had done. And I got 1374 01:16:36.079 --> 01:16:38.920 to say, it was such an amazing blessing for God 1375 01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:41.520 to take that away from me and humble me, you know, 1376 01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:43.960 And that's exactly what it was. And I thank God 1377 01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:47.560 for that taking that away from me, the biggest blessings 1378 01:16:47.600 --> 01:16:48.439 of my life. 1379 01:16:48.680 --> 01:16:50.560 And you're absolutely and I think you and I as guys, 1380 01:16:50.600 --> 01:16:53.000 we are even more prone to this because and this 1381 01:16:53.119 --> 01:16:54.880 is a different this chapter two of the book. It's 1382 01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:56.840 an identity issue for us. I mean a lot of 1383 01:16:56.880 --> 01:16:59.960 it is is that I don't have my as a Christian. 1384 01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:02.479 I ought to have my identity in Christ. But the 1385 01:17:02.520 --> 01:17:04.600 way we form identity and I covered this in the book. 1386 01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:07.199 We don't typically form it that way. What we typically 1387 01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:10.560 do instead is we form it as men in our achievements, 1388 01:17:11.039 --> 01:17:13.880 in what it is we've achieved. So if I asked, 1389 01:17:13.960 --> 01:17:16.399 you know, who are you David, Well, You're going to 1390 01:17:16.439 --> 01:17:19.279 say I'm the host of the show. If you said, 1391 01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:22.119 who are you Jim, Well, I'm a cold case detective. 1392 01:17:22.159 --> 01:17:22.439 Okay? 1393 01:17:22.520 --> 01:17:23.439 Is that who I am? 1394 01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:24.239 Look? 1395 01:17:24.279 --> 01:17:27.520 I haven't been in a dayline episode in three years. Okay, 1396 01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:29.520 I need at some point you need to say, Okay, 1397 01:17:29.520 --> 01:17:30.359 who are you really? 1398 01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:31.079 Jim? 1399 01:17:31.560 --> 01:17:35.319 And this struggle of identity is so key to how 1400 01:17:35.359 --> 01:17:38.039 we function in the world because identity is really exposed 1401 01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:40.479 as our forms of worship, Because I guarantee, as men, 1402 01:17:40.920 --> 01:17:44.479 we typically form our worship based on what we do. 1403 01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:48.880 You know identity when you study it in the surveys 1404 01:17:49.239 --> 01:17:52.920 and the research on this, it's inseparable from value and purpose, 1405 01:17:52.960 --> 01:17:56.520 And unfortunately a lot of us form our identity based 1406 01:17:57.560 --> 01:18:00.439 in reverse. In other words, we asked the actual where 1407 01:18:00.439 --> 01:18:02.680 am I valuable? What am I good at? What do 1408 01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:06.399 I have purpose in? That's who I am? Rather than say, well, no, 1409 01:18:06.520 --> 01:18:09.720 who am I? I want to form my value and 1410 01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:13.079 purpose based on my identity first, not my identity based 1411 01:18:13.119 --> 01:18:16.600 on my value and purpose, because that's the problem, because 1412 01:18:16.600 --> 01:18:18.720 there's nothing but pride that comes out of forming your 1413 01:18:18.760 --> 01:18:21.680 identity based on what you're good at, because it's about 1414 01:18:21.680 --> 01:18:24.880 what you're good at. Yes, so this is and it's 1415 01:18:24.920 --> 01:18:30.399 the biggest, one single move that leads to contentment, is 1416 01:18:30.439 --> 01:18:33.000 to reform your identity not based on what you can achieve, 1417 01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:35.840 but based on what you receive from a holy God. 1418 01:18:36.279 --> 01:18:38.760 That is amazing. When you're talking about that, you say, 1419 01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:41.000 you know, how do you define yourself? Is it the 1420 01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:42.680 show that you have, is it the book that you've written, 1421 01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:44.720 or is it the career that you have. It makes 1422 01:18:44.760 --> 01:18:47.439 me think back to the Austrian Empire when they would 1423 01:18:47.479 --> 01:18:50.279 have their emperors die. They had these big, elaborate funerals 1424 01:18:50.479 --> 01:18:53.720 and they would take them to this amazing crypt Actually 1425 01:18:53.840 --> 01:18:56.079 I've been there with my family to see this thing, 1426 01:18:56.079 --> 01:18:58.680 and it truly is amazing. And they would have as 1427 01:18:58.720 --> 01:19:00.880 they bring the body into there, up they would knock 1428 01:19:01.359 --> 01:19:03.079 and the person inside would say who goes there? And 1429 01:19:03.079 --> 01:19:05.720 they would give all of the big political titles. You know, 1430 01:19:05.800 --> 01:19:07.439 he's an empire of the empire of this and the 1431 01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:08.880 king of that, and all the rest of this stuff. 1432 01:19:09.079 --> 01:19:11.640 I don't know him. And then they would knock again 1433 01:19:11.680 --> 01:19:13.039 and they say who is it, and he would give 1434 01:19:13.239 --> 01:19:16.880 family relationships right that he has, I don't know him, 1435 01:19:17.239 --> 01:19:19.640 And then he'd knock a third time and it would say, 1436 01:19:20.399 --> 01:19:24.079 and it's a humble sinner rons Joseph, I know him. 1437 01:19:24.279 --> 01:19:27.039 Enter. You know. That's a kind of an interesting thing. Awesome. 1438 01:19:27.159 --> 01:19:30.039 Yeah, that's a that's an awesome just a word picture 1439 01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:33.239 of what we're talking about here. Now, this is something 1440 01:19:33.239 --> 01:19:35.840 that is and I don't know how much time we 1441 01:19:35.880 --> 01:19:36.880 have on this, but let me just say I've got 1442 01:19:36.920 --> 01:19:39.399 a friend named Joe Martin who's a doctor, who is 1443 01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:41.560 a philosopher and a theologian. 1444 01:19:41.720 --> 01:19:43.600 We got plenty of time, by the way. 1445 01:19:44.119 --> 01:19:47.600 So he says that men are all about the Asians. 1446 01:19:47.640 --> 01:19:51.600 When we have conversations, it's all about the Asians. And 1447 01:19:51.640 --> 01:19:54.039 I think it does expose how we form identity. So here, 1448 01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:56.680 for example, he would say, when we meet another guy, 1449 01:19:56.760 --> 01:19:58.319 we shake hands and we say what do you do 1450 01:19:59.800 --> 01:20:04.479 for station? Is occupation? Okay, that's the first aation. And 1451 01:20:04.520 --> 01:20:07.600 when we're not really asking what do you do? We 1452 01:20:07.680 --> 01:20:09.560 are because of how we form identity, as meant we're 1453 01:20:09.600 --> 01:20:14.359 asking who are you now? As we ask that, all identity, remember, 1454 01:20:14.560 --> 01:20:19.119 is comparative. It's not about well, how wealthy are you, 1455 01:20:19.159 --> 01:20:21.760 it's how wealthy are you compared to this guy or 1456 01:20:21.800 --> 01:20:25.000 everybody else. That's how you know if you're wealthy, how 1457 01:20:25.039 --> 01:20:30.560 smart are you compared to others? Sadly, identity is formed 1458 01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:33.079 by comparing, and that's why it's so prideful, right, because 1459 01:20:33.079 --> 01:20:35.039 we have a tendency to say, well, I'm better over here, 1460 01:20:35.439 --> 01:20:37.880 I'm better over there. So occupation is the first dation, 1461 01:20:38.479 --> 01:20:40.520 and then what we're measuring. We're saying, okay, well I 1462 01:20:40.560 --> 01:20:45.520 know what that job requires in terms of education. Secondation, 1463 01:20:46.199 --> 01:20:48.119 we're now we're saying, well he's better educated or I'm 1464 01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:51.720 better educated. We're measuring here we are in that first 1465 01:20:51.720 --> 01:20:55.720 conversation with another guy, and by asking what is your occupation, 1466 01:20:56.039 --> 01:21:01.720 we're starting to measure the other asians. Second one is education. Third, well, 1467 01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:04.439 we're asking, well, I know what that makes. If you're 1468 01:21:04.479 --> 01:21:07.279 a surgeon, I know you're making some or if you're 1469 01:21:07.600 --> 01:21:11.800 an accountant, whatever it is, you're measuring compensation. That's the 1470 01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:15.039 next station. So at some point then you're asking, too, 1471 01:21:15.359 --> 01:21:17.439 how good are you at this? You could be a doctor, 1472 01:21:17.479 --> 01:21:21.239 but just be a terrible doctor. Reputation is the next ation. 1473 01:21:22.039 --> 01:21:24.359 What are we doing here, Well, we're measuring based on 1474 01:21:25.159 --> 01:21:30.199 we're assigning value based on the answers here. And if 1475 01:21:30.199 --> 01:21:32.960 you're a guy, if you're a cop, especially, you could 1476 01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:35.479 be somebody who's that's got nothing more than a high 1477 01:21:35.479 --> 01:21:38.439 school education and you're working as a patrol officer and 1478 01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:40.600 I've been making that much money. You've never tried to 1479 01:21:40.640 --> 01:21:43.279 do anything other. But if you're six foot eight and 1480 01:21:43.279 --> 01:21:46.880 cut like a Greek god, you're still the biggest dog 1481 01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:50.920 in the room. Because now it's about intimidation the last ation. 1482 01:21:52.039 --> 01:21:55.079 So I think he's got a point. It's very unlighten. 1483 01:21:55.119 --> 01:21:55.239 Now. 1484 01:21:55.279 --> 01:21:57.800 I'm sure that for all of us. If you're not 1485 01:21:57.880 --> 01:21:59.720 a guy, you're a woman, and you're listening to this, 1486 01:21:59.800 --> 01:22:02.439 then there's probably some other level of But be honest, 1487 01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:06.760 we do this all the time. And because identity is comparative, 1488 01:22:07.319 --> 01:22:10.960 it really takes it rears its head, most notably in 1489 01:22:11.119 --> 01:22:16.319 group gatherings where you're introducing yourself because now you're getting 1490 01:22:16.319 --> 01:22:21.640 the opportunity to compare. Well, there's the danger in it, 1491 01:22:22.079 --> 01:22:27.119 and identity becomes the thing that sadly is behind so 1492 01:22:27.439 --> 01:22:31.560 much of our trauma and struggle. This is a separate 1493 01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:33.840 chapter of this book. I'll give you an example of this. 1494 01:22:34.159 --> 01:22:37.680 We would do a lot of work now with officers 1495 01:22:37.920 --> 01:22:40.159 to Billy Graham Association in the summer. So we're getting 1496 01:22:40.199 --> 01:22:42.439 ready to leave in two weeks here to do the 1497 01:22:42.479 --> 01:22:45.880 first of six weeks of counseling for marriage resiliency for 1498 01:22:45.960 --> 01:22:48.399 officers who have been involved in critical incidents and now 1499 01:22:48.399 --> 01:22:50.560 they're struggling in their marriage. And sometimes they only get 1500 01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:52.199 there before they get a divorce. They get a divorce, 1501 01:22:52.239 --> 01:22:55.000 they say, we're not coming. I always say, just hold on, 1502 01:22:55.199 --> 01:22:57.199 just try to get through this trip first before you 1503 01:22:57.239 --> 01:23:00.399 make a decision that big. But this is that the 1504 01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:04.600 dire straits therein Okay I discovered by three or four 1505 01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:07.000 years ago. The thing that is the biggest struggle for 1506 01:23:07.039 --> 01:23:10.399 officers is, especially if you're injured, is identity. It turns 1507 01:23:10.439 --> 01:23:12.880 out that if you were to look at all of 1508 01:23:12.920 --> 01:23:16.119 the trauma in your life, whatever it was, if it 1509 01:23:16.159 --> 01:23:18.600 was an injury, you suffered, a divorce, a loss of 1510 01:23:18.640 --> 01:23:21.960 a job, a child being loved, whatever you lost, whatever 1511 01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:24.920 it was you suffered in a trauma, you'll see that 1512 01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:26.880 at that same point you were suffering the trauma, you 1513 01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:30.880 had a relatively dramatic shift in your identity. You thought 1514 01:23:30.880 --> 01:23:34.439 of yourself as married. Now you're divorced, you see yourself differently. 1515 01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:38.199 Identity is simply how you continuously see yourself. The self 1516 01:23:38.239 --> 01:23:41.359 is at the issue, and every time you suffer a trauma, 1517 01:23:41.399 --> 01:23:44.680 you suffer an identity shift. So it's interesting that trauma 1518 01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:49.880 typically causes an identity shift, but the opposite is also true. 1519 01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:54.359 An identity shift often causes trauma. So if you wanted 1520 01:23:54.399 --> 01:23:57.079 to protect yourself from trauma or minimize that kind of 1521 01:23:57.079 --> 01:24:00.000 trauma you'll experience, you need to put your identity inside 1522 01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:03.319 something that can't be shifted, stolen from you, taken from you, 1523 01:24:04.159 --> 01:24:06.680 bruised in some way, damaged in some way. And of 1524 01:24:06.760 --> 01:24:10.479 the three ways that we form identity inside out, outside in, 1525 01:24:10.640 --> 01:24:13.399 or top side down, only one of these three ways 1526 01:24:13.760 --> 01:24:17.199 is stable enough to protect you from shifting. If you're 1527 01:24:17.239 --> 01:24:19.960 forming your identity outside in, where you say it like, 1528 01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:22.600 this is how the ancients did it. You know, this 1529 01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:25.920 thing outside of me existed before I was ever born, 1530 01:24:26.119 --> 01:24:27.880 and I'm just going to reach out and grab that 1531 01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:30.239 and form my identity. So it's a tribe that's the 1532 01:24:30.319 --> 01:24:33.920 tribe I was raised in. It's the name of my 1533 01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:39.520 family name, it's the profession of my family. We're all cops, 1534 01:24:39.039 --> 01:24:42.880 so that's like who I am. Okay, that's outside in identity, 1535 01:24:43.199 --> 01:24:44.880 and I all of us do some of that inside 1536 01:24:44.920 --> 01:24:48.600 out based on my desires, my preferences, even my sexual preferences. 1537 01:24:48.720 --> 01:24:51.520 I'm going to ask you outside of me to identify 1538 01:24:51.680 --> 01:24:56.399 me based on my innate hearts, desires. Okay, that's inside 1539 01:24:56.399 --> 01:24:59.079 out identity. Both of those are unstable because at some 1540 01:24:59.159 --> 01:25:01.720 point your job ends, you're going to retire, then who 1541 01:25:01.760 --> 01:25:04.720 are you then? Or you're going to get injured, and 1542 01:25:05.600 --> 01:25:07.319 or your desires are going to change because your heart 1543 01:25:07.399 --> 01:25:09.479 is fickle. It's just the nature of it. Well, then 1544 01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:11.800 get ready to suffer some trauma on the course you're 1545 01:25:11.840 --> 01:25:14.199 like now, if you've formed your identity top side down, 1546 01:25:14.640 --> 01:25:18.319 where you put it in something that's transcendent and unchanging, 1547 01:25:19.920 --> 01:25:22.319 then you're going to have lows in your life, of course, 1548 01:25:22.399 --> 01:25:25.199 but they're going to be not quite as deep because 1549 01:25:25.479 --> 01:25:28.199 that the day before you suffer the injury, you were 1550 01:25:28.239 --> 01:25:30.680 a child of You were in Christ. That day the 1551 01:25:30.760 --> 01:25:33.000 day after you suffer the injury, you're still in Christ. 1552 01:25:33.880 --> 01:25:36.760 You're still the same God sees you the same way. Now, 1553 01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:38.720 are you going to struggle because you're an injury? Of course? 1554 01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:42.520 But who you are hasn't changed. And it turns out 1555 01:25:42.960 --> 01:25:45.039 that's the thing that we struggle with the most, even 1556 01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:46.800 in an injury. It's not so much just the pain 1557 01:25:46.840 --> 01:25:51.239 of the injury, it's who am I now? And that's 1558 01:25:51.279 --> 01:25:53.199 why we have to kind of really be serious about 1559 01:25:53.199 --> 01:25:56.399 our identity formation or we're going to find ourselves. It's 1560 01:25:56.399 --> 01:25:58.199 about human flourishing. It really is. 1561 01:25:58.319 --> 01:26:00.359 Yeah, And of course you know, it's about aegrity. And 1562 01:26:00.359 --> 01:26:02.560 we often think about integrity is how other people perceive 1563 01:26:02.640 --> 01:26:05.760 us or something, but it really is how you perceive yourself. 1564 01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:08.479 Do you have that integrity? And you have that integrity 1565 01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:11.159 if you're thinking about that from top down? This is 1566 01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:14.560 so wise. I'm really enjoying listening to you talk about this, 1567 01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:18.039 and I think about how unique things are right now. 1568 01:26:18.039 --> 01:26:19.960 As you begin talking about that, you said, you know, 1569 01:26:20.319 --> 01:26:24.159 this lure of being famous or a lot of people 1570 01:26:24.199 --> 01:26:26.800 following you, that all comes as a social media stuff. 1571 01:26:27.039 --> 01:26:29.840 It truly is amazing to me to see that and 1572 01:26:29.880 --> 01:26:33.079 how that has transformed younger people, and it is such 1573 01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:36.359 a transformational thing to think that there is some value 1574 01:26:36.560 --> 01:26:38.960 in having a bunch of people that you don't know, 1575 01:26:39.399 --> 01:26:42.119 you know, following you and everything I'm going to tell 1576 01:26:42.119 --> 01:26:43.479 you focusing on that, it's amazing. 1577 01:26:43.560 --> 01:26:46.279 Yeah, that is something that we take for granted, David, 1578 01:26:46.359 --> 01:26:48.199 We take it for granted because yes, we are now 1579 01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:51.199 in an age the information age has become the identity age. 1580 01:26:51.520 --> 01:26:54.680 Why because, so how do we start? If you go 1581 01:26:54.720 --> 01:26:57.000 on our social media platforms, what's the very first thing? 1582 01:26:57.039 --> 01:26:59.560 We have a moniker, like, what is the public name? 1583 01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:03.159 I'm going to adopt that I want you to see 1584 01:27:03.199 --> 01:27:06.279 me as second, we're going to put a bio. Now 1585 01:27:06.279 --> 01:27:09.760 we're going to list a series of priorities, identity priorities 1586 01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:13.439 in the bio. So all of this, then we're going 1587 01:27:13.479 --> 01:27:15.840 to spend the next how many years on social media 1588 01:27:16.520 --> 01:27:21.199 posting only in a way that amplifies the way I 1589 01:27:21.239 --> 01:27:22.359 already want you to see me. 1590 01:27:22.560 --> 01:27:23.079 That's right. 1591 01:27:23.319 --> 01:27:25.520 So I'm not going to reveal something of myself that 1592 01:27:26.039 --> 01:27:30.239 violates the identity I've already established. And even if I'm 1593 01:27:30.279 --> 01:27:33.439 not even thinking about it, my posts always expose who 1594 01:27:33.439 --> 01:27:38.119 I am. And there were times in generations prior where 1595 01:27:38.359 --> 01:27:41.079 you didn't know who people were and the way you 1596 01:27:41.119 --> 01:27:44.960 know who they are. Now, having access to everything we 1597 01:27:45.079 --> 01:27:49.640 think us gives people complete access to who we really are. 1598 01:27:50.720 --> 01:27:52.640 And I think we know that if a republic figure 1599 01:27:52.680 --> 01:27:55.199 and so we're careful. You know, I never post anything 1600 01:27:55.199 --> 01:27:59.840 about my family on social media. I stay pretty focused 1601 01:27:59.880 --> 01:28:02.159 in that area of what it is I'm trying to 1602 01:28:02.199 --> 01:28:05.880 communicate related to the gospel, and I just stay focused 1603 01:28:05.880 --> 01:28:08.960 on that. Now, that doesn't that gives people a view 1604 01:28:09.039 --> 01:28:11.520 of me that's not actually true. It's the view that 1605 01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:15.119 I'm crafting for them, and we have to be aware 1606 01:28:15.159 --> 01:28:18.079 of that. But everyone does that. I mean, I see 1607 01:28:18.079 --> 01:28:20.640 people I follow who you think all they do is 1608 01:28:20.680 --> 01:28:25.479 eat because but it's really that it's not just that 1609 01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:30.640 we are in some way forming and sharing our identity. 1610 01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:33.880 It's that we are also revealing our idols. We're revealing 1611 01:28:33.880 --> 01:28:36.960 our priorities. We're revealing this stuff that we think is 1612 01:28:36.960 --> 01:28:43.680 so consequential, so important that we are willing to proclaim it. 1613 01:28:44.760 --> 01:28:46.079 That's one of the ways you can you can see 1614 01:28:46.079 --> 01:28:48.159 what your idols are. Ask yourself, like, look at your 1615 01:28:48.319 --> 01:28:50.680 social media streams. Well, I want to know what your 1616 01:28:50.720 --> 01:28:52.319 idols are. I can kind of figure it out if 1617 01:28:52.319 --> 01:28:54.680 you've got a social media platform, right, that's right. 1618 01:28:54.760 --> 01:28:56.960 Yeah, we got a full lifelog that is up there. 1619 01:28:57.520 --> 01:28:57.720 Yeah. 1620 01:28:57.720 --> 01:28:59.720 You know it's such a shallow things that talking about 1621 01:28:59.720 --> 01:29:02.439 with social media. It's there so that you know, you 1622 01:29:02.479 --> 01:29:05.439 can glorify yourself. Isn't it interesting that in the last 1623 01:29:05.520 --> 01:29:09.760 days people become such lovers of self that that that 1624 01:29:09.800 --> 01:29:13.000 we've never had those tools, that we've never had the 1625 01:29:13.039 --> 01:29:14.479 tools to magnifizy it exactly. 1626 01:29:15.239 --> 01:29:17.199 Yeah, And I think at some point we are going 1627 01:29:17.239 --> 01:29:20.119 to have we're going to see that this is not 1628 01:29:20.239 --> 01:29:23.520 beneficial to our well being and we're going to volunteerly 1629 01:29:23.960 --> 01:29:26.680 pull back a little bit, or we're going to reach 1630 01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:28.239 a point in our lives where we're going to burn 1631 01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:29.600 out on it and we're going to put so you 1632 01:29:29.640 --> 01:29:32.439 might be more active on social media at some point 1633 01:29:32.439 --> 01:29:35.359 in your life than you are later. But I'm also 1634 01:29:35.359 --> 01:29:36.840 trying to be very careful not to be the old 1635 01:29:36.840 --> 01:29:38.920 guy who's just shaking his fist at the moon, right, 1636 01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:42.640 because yeah, I use social media as much as anybody else, 1637 01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:46.319 but I do want us to be very practical about it. Like, look, 1638 01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:50.359 if we're trying to protect ourselves from what causes us 1639 01:29:50.359 --> 01:29:52.680 to do bad things, we have to have a very 1640 01:29:52.720 --> 01:29:55.880 honest assessment of who we are. Are we buying in 1641 01:29:55.920 --> 01:29:57.479 This is a different chapter in the book. But are 1642 01:29:57.479 --> 01:30:02.239 we by nature innocent, born innocent, born virtuous? And we 1643 01:30:02.279 --> 01:30:05.520 are corrupted by our families, by our environments, by the 1644 01:30:05.600 --> 01:30:09.079 systems that are in place, government systems. Is that who 1645 01:30:09.079 --> 01:30:11.640 we are? Or is the flip true that we are 1646 01:30:11.680 --> 01:30:15.079 by nature fallen and depraved enough, but no matter what 1647 01:30:15.319 --> 01:30:17.239 system you put us in, we'll find a way to 1648 01:30:17.279 --> 01:30:21.279 corrupt it, even religious systems. Which of those two things 1649 01:30:21.319 --> 01:30:23.880 is true? We need to figure that out because if 1650 01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:26.479 the second is true, which has always been the claim 1651 01:30:26.600 --> 01:30:30.079 of the Christian worldview, that we are by nature fallen, well, 1652 01:30:30.079 --> 01:30:33.359 now we can explain certain aspects of what happens in culture, 1653 01:30:33.399 --> 01:30:37.000 and we can put our resources in the right direction. Look, 1654 01:30:37.199 --> 01:30:39.880 Luther put it this way. We are so inwardly focused 1655 01:30:39.880 --> 01:30:44.079 that we can take even things that are good and 1656 01:30:44.199 --> 01:30:46.279 corrupt them and do them for selfish You can even 1657 01:30:46.319 --> 01:30:50.680 behave uber morally, but you're doing it for selfish reasons. 1658 01:30:50.840 --> 01:30:50.960 Yea. 1659 01:30:51.239 --> 01:30:55.399 Even our efforts to do something godly are entirely depraved 1660 01:30:55.439 --> 01:30:57.880 and selfish, is what his claim is. This is what 1661 01:30:57.920 --> 01:31:01.760 you find also in the modern studies about altruism, like 1662 01:31:01.800 --> 01:31:03.760 people are trying to figure out, like, how could it 1663 01:31:03.800 --> 01:31:07.840 be that someone who's could be a Pulitzer Prize winner 1664 01:31:07.880 --> 01:31:11.640 can also kill his spouse or her spouse? How could 1665 01:31:11.680 --> 01:31:13.840 that be? How could it be that there's somebody who, 1666 01:31:13.880 --> 01:31:15.920 for the last thirty years has been an exemplar in 1667 01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:19.359 our community, the deacon at the church, the doctor who 1668 01:31:19.399 --> 01:31:22.720 delivered my babies, Yet thirty years ago he killed his wife. 1669 01:31:23.359 --> 01:31:25.560 How could that be? There's no way he could be 1670 01:31:25.560 --> 01:31:29.039 that duplicit? Is there? This enigma of man has to 1671 01:31:29.079 --> 01:31:31.680 be sorted out. Now, what I see in the studies 1672 01:31:32.039 --> 01:31:34.800 is that, yes, we do have good examples of the 1673 01:31:34.880 --> 01:31:39.560 altruism of humans. Humans are capable of great altruism. They 1674 01:31:39.560 --> 01:31:44.920 are until it doesn't serve them personally. So in other words, 1675 01:31:45.399 --> 01:31:49.439 I'm usually the studies show that humans are usually pretty 1676 01:31:49.479 --> 01:31:52.960 generous until resources get tight. Then we start holding toilet paper. 1677 01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:56.439 Well why are we doing that? Because we are at 1678 01:31:56.479 --> 01:31:59.960 our base nature self serving, and even when we are 1679 01:32:00.039 --> 01:32:03.840 are doing good for others, it serves us in some way. 1680 01:32:04.600 --> 01:32:06.319 That's why we're doing it. We want to be seen 1681 01:32:06.399 --> 01:32:09.199 a certain way. Very seldom do you see people who 1682 01:32:09.239 --> 01:32:11.840 you know do good things. Who aren't proclaiming to you 1683 01:32:11.880 --> 01:32:14.439 that they do good things. That's how you know they're 1684 01:32:14.479 --> 01:32:17.720 doing good things. Well, that's because that proclamation is what 1685 01:32:17.720 --> 01:32:20.600 they're really after. Yeah, okay, that's the truth. If that's 1686 01:32:20.640 --> 01:32:23.039 the case, then now we can make a proper assessment 1687 01:32:23.039 --> 01:32:25.520 of our own condition. Number One, it causes me to 1688 01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:29.119 know that I am not trustworthy, that I am no different. 1689 01:32:29.199 --> 01:32:31.760 Number One, It's leveled the field for me. So I 1690 01:32:31.800 --> 01:32:34.399 never went into an interview once I had this realization. 1691 01:32:34.479 --> 01:32:36.319 I never went into an interview and thought I was 1692 01:32:36.359 --> 01:32:39.560 somehow better than the guy I was interviewing. No, I 1693 01:32:39.640 --> 01:32:42.159 knew that we're all the same person. And but for 1694 01:32:42.199 --> 01:32:44.760 the grace of God, my buttons haven't been pushed the 1695 01:32:44.760 --> 01:32:47.239 way that this poor guy's buttons have been pushed. Now, look, 1696 01:32:47.279 --> 01:32:50.800 this is not to try to elevate people who do 1697 01:32:50.840 --> 01:32:54.399 bad behavior. I'm a justice guy, so we're going to 1698 01:32:54.439 --> 01:32:57.640 take care of this. But I recognize that I am 1699 01:32:57.800 --> 01:33:02.199 just like him. We are all just like him. When 1700 01:33:02.199 --> 01:33:05.600 you watch an episode of Dateline, I'm hoping you're not 1701 01:33:05.760 --> 01:33:07.439 sitting there and going, yeah, what an idiot. 1702 01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:08.680 I hope you. 1703 01:33:08.640 --> 01:33:11.520 Watch it with a certain amount of introspection and you're thinking, ah, 1704 01:33:12.000 --> 01:33:14.920 that could easily have been me. Because that is where 1705 01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:18.680 humility begins. It begins when you realize the proper role. 1706 01:33:18.960 --> 01:33:21.960 By the way, if you know the fallen nature of humans, 1707 01:33:21.960 --> 01:33:24.840 if you know that's really true, well that also changes 1708 01:33:24.880 --> 01:33:28.680 the way you establish systems. This is why our country 1709 01:33:28.760 --> 01:33:30.760 was built in a way that had the kinds of 1710 01:33:30.840 --> 01:33:34.520 checks and balances between the three arms of the federal government. 1711 01:33:34.600 --> 01:33:37.239 Why is that there because the people who formed it 1712 01:33:37.359 --> 01:33:40.000 new you can't trust people, you can't trust humans. We 1713 01:33:40.039 --> 01:33:42.159 are by nature of fallen if we don't have a 1714 01:33:42.199 --> 01:33:45.159 way to check and balance each other, if we don't 1715 01:33:45.159 --> 01:33:48.000 have a community. Basically, this is why the Christian worldview 1716 01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:51.239 has not lived in isolation, because this is why marriages. 1717 01:33:51.319 --> 01:33:53.279 So this is another chapter of the book why marriage 1718 01:33:53.319 --> 01:33:56.760 is so important. Because I've close enough to another human 1719 01:33:57.039 --> 01:34:00.319 that I have given her permission to tell me where 1720 01:34:00.319 --> 01:34:03.520 I'm wrong. I've given her permission to help shape me 1721 01:34:03.800 --> 01:34:07.119 toward what it is God wants from me. And if 1722 01:34:07.119 --> 01:34:09.800 you're not in a relationship with somebody who you know 1723 01:34:09.920 --> 01:34:14.199 well enough to have given them permission to tell you 1724 01:34:14.239 --> 01:34:17.239 what an idiot you are right now, and you don't 1725 01:34:17.279 --> 01:34:19.600 have true friends, and you don't have the kind of 1726 01:34:19.600 --> 01:34:23.239 relationship that'll urge you towards something better. So it turns 1727 01:34:23.279 --> 01:34:26.640 out that those are other things that sociologists have discovered. 1728 01:34:26.920 --> 01:34:29.399 It was a chapter in here about true friendship or 1729 01:34:29.399 --> 01:34:32.279 why because I've worked so many cases where people were 1730 01:34:32.359 --> 01:34:35.800 killed by somebody they thought was their true friend. M Well, 1731 01:34:35.840 --> 01:34:39.640 so what is the nature of quality relationships? We need 1732 01:34:39.680 --> 01:34:41.920 to kind of dig into that because it turns out 1733 01:34:41.920 --> 01:34:44.600 that there are some relationships that if you're listening, that 1734 01:34:44.720 --> 01:34:48.600 you're holding right now, that are hurting you, that are 1735 01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:52.000 detrimental to your well being, and that might at some point, 1736 01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:54.680 by the way, likely if I'm the first time I'm 1737 01:34:54.680 --> 01:34:56.439 going to do, if I'm working your homicide, is I'm 1738 01:34:56.439 --> 01:34:58.800 going to look back at all your relationships because the 1739 01:34:58.880 --> 01:35:02.720 chances are that is somebody you knew really well who 1740 01:35:02.800 --> 01:35:05.840 kills you. And in the end we have to ask 1741 01:35:05.880 --> 01:35:08.520 the question, what am I doing wrong that I'm hanging 1742 01:35:08.520 --> 01:35:11.079 out with somebody who I have not in some way 1743 01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:12.600 vetted better? 1744 01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:13.039 You know? 1745 01:35:13.560 --> 01:35:15.720 So I think a lot of this is important for 1746 01:35:15.800 --> 01:35:17.840 us as Christians to say, oh yeah, By the way, 1747 01:35:17.840 --> 01:35:20.039 the Scripture has an antidote for that this Christian's got 1748 01:35:20.119 --> 01:35:22.760 great guidance for that. We just haven't been paying attention 1749 01:35:22.760 --> 01:35:23.439 in this generation. 1750 01:35:23.520 --> 01:35:23.960 It seems. 1751 01:35:24.279 --> 01:35:25.840 Yeah, you have a statement. 1752 01:35:25.920 --> 01:35:28.720 Many crime stories are centered around poor relationships, you know, 1753 01:35:28.840 --> 01:35:31.600 not having a relationship or having a relationship that's going 1754 01:35:31.680 --> 01:35:33.640 to I guess goed you into that right some way. 1755 01:35:33.720 --> 01:35:35.720 Yeah, I mean this is why. So if you're looking 1756 01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:37.720 at what causes and we've got enough time, I think 1757 01:35:37.720 --> 01:35:39.720 you're to cover this that if you look at what 1758 01:35:39.880 --> 01:35:45.600 is causing, what really describes relationships that will cause you 1759 01:35:45.640 --> 01:35:49.359 to flourish. It turns out that studies show this one 1760 01:35:49.359 --> 01:35:53.520 of the longest studies ever done on human happiness, looks 1761 01:35:53.560 --> 01:35:57.439 like sixty year study that was done, and it really 1762 01:35:57.479 --> 01:36:00.319 revealed that is your relationships there at the key, the 1763 01:36:00.359 --> 01:36:03.600 core of what causes you to feel content, to be happy, 1764 01:36:03.640 --> 01:36:06.720 to have satisfied life, satisfying life. But it's not just 1765 01:36:06.760 --> 01:36:09.359 any kind of relationship. It turns out it's the kind 1766 01:36:09.399 --> 01:36:12.439 of deep relationships that you cannot have with hundreds of 1767 01:36:12.439 --> 01:36:16.119 people on social media. So there's three things, three things 1768 01:36:16.119 --> 01:36:19.399 that lead to the quality flourishing in your relationships. 1769 01:36:20.239 --> 01:36:20.439 Here. 1770 01:36:20.439 --> 01:36:24.399 They are, First, you need deep committed relationships with people 1771 01:36:24.399 --> 01:36:27.720 you've given permission to be like a brother to say, hey, 1772 01:36:27.720 --> 01:36:30.039 you know what did your off the rails here? And 1773 01:36:30.079 --> 01:36:32.920 that has to be with a small number of people. 1774 01:36:32.960 --> 01:36:36.279 You can't have those kinds of deep committed relationships because 1775 01:36:36.279 --> 01:36:38.800 they require a certain amount of vulnerability and a certain 1776 01:36:38.800 --> 01:36:41.319 amount of time. So if you're somebody whoays, oh, I 1777 01:36:41.399 --> 01:36:42.960 know lots of people, I got lots of friends, well 1778 01:36:42.960 --> 01:36:45.720 they're probably not. Then these kinds of friends you need 1779 01:36:45.760 --> 01:36:50.239 to have a small number of deeply committed relationships with 1780 01:36:50.640 --> 01:36:55.319 third piece virtuous people. Now here's the reason why. I've 1781 01:36:55.439 --> 01:36:59.479 met lots of folks who are deeply connected to others 1782 01:36:59.479 --> 01:37:02.600 who are not virtuous, and they're they're they're basically they're 1783 01:37:02.600 --> 01:37:05.399 part of their crime family. And so you can have 1784 01:37:05.640 --> 01:37:09.199 deep connected relationships that lead you astray because there's no virtue. 1785 01:37:09.479 --> 01:37:12.520 Now here's the tricky question is what do we call virtuous? 1786 01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:15.479 Who gets to decide? So there's a code of ethics 1787 01:37:15.479 --> 01:37:19.119 amongst gangsters, is that what is virtuous? What they say 1788 01:37:19.159 --> 01:37:21.079 is because they would say, hey, if you offend us, 1789 01:37:21.159 --> 01:37:22.640 we're going to come over there and kill you. That's 1790 01:37:22.680 --> 01:37:24.319 just the code. You knew better before you did that. 1791 01:37:24.399 --> 01:37:26.880 You should have known that was coming, because you know 1792 01:37:26.920 --> 01:37:29.800 that's what you're going to get. And so who just 1793 01:37:29.840 --> 01:37:33.399 gets to decide what is righteous, right or wrong? Virtuous? 1794 01:37:33.479 --> 01:37:35.560 Who gets to decide that is it a group of 1795 01:37:35.600 --> 01:37:39.439 people or is it a single individual, or is there 1796 01:37:39.479 --> 01:37:43.920 something that transcends all of us that it overarches all communities. 1797 01:37:44.560 --> 01:37:48.239 So it turns out that virtue is something that does 1798 01:37:48.279 --> 01:37:55.119 require a transcendent, unchanging, overarching virtue giver the authority that 1799 01:37:55.159 --> 01:37:58.159 we would actually say virtue is grounded in because if 1800 01:37:58.159 --> 01:38:00.760 we say it's grounded in groups, then get ready for 1801 01:38:00.800 --> 01:38:03.359 all kinds of stupid. And we're already seeing this because 1802 01:38:03.399 --> 01:38:06.520 what's virtuous to even politically, what's virtuous to one side 1803 01:38:06.600 --> 01:38:08.880 or the other is very different. Then we're arguing as 1804 01:38:08.920 --> 01:38:13.960 if there's no transcendent, overarching virtue. So this is one 1805 01:38:13.960 --> 01:38:19.039 of those areas your relationships that does benefit from a 1806 01:38:19.199 --> 01:38:23.359 worldview in which you can ground virtue objectively. There's a 1807 01:38:23.359 --> 01:38:25.399 couple of places where that happens in this book, but 1808 01:38:25.479 --> 01:38:28.000 this is one that's very important because we can say 1809 01:38:28.199 --> 01:38:29.479 you tell your kids all the time, but don't be 1810 01:38:29.520 --> 01:38:31.920 handled with there's a bad people who gets to decide 1811 01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:34.720 they're bad? This is now suddenly Caught is going to 1812 01:38:34.720 --> 01:38:36.800 have to cause us to think about how we ground 1813 01:38:36.880 --> 01:38:39.720 good and bad. How do we ground a righteousness? And 1814 01:38:39.800 --> 01:38:41.720 if you're going to ground it in just the opinion 1815 01:38:41.760 --> 01:38:45.920 of people, well that's every case. I work at some 1816 01:38:46.039 --> 01:38:48.560 point you have to be wiser than that. And that's 1817 01:38:48.720 --> 01:38:50.640 why I think it's important for us to adopt the 1818 01:38:50.680 --> 01:38:55.199 one worldview grounded in humility that provides you with an objective, 1819 01:38:55.279 --> 01:38:57.720 transcendent source for virtue. 1820 01:38:57.760 --> 01:39:00.920 That is such great wisdom. I'm really looking forward reading 1821 01:39:00.960 --> 01:39:03.039 this book, and of course it's just come out, but 1822 01:39:03.119 --> 01:39:04.279 it is available now, right. 1823 01:39:04.560 --> 01:39:06.520 Yes, it's available now, and I appreciate you can learn 1824 01:39:06.520 --> 01:39:10.479 more at the Truthantruecrime dot com the truthantruecrime dot com. 1825 01:39:10.680 --> 01:39:13.279 And because I'm so sensitive to the idea that this 1826 01:39:13.319 --> 01:39:15.640 should not be about us just building a platform and 1827 01:39:15.680 --> 01:39:18.119 trying to sell something, what we do at that website, 1828 01:39:18.119 --> 01:39:20.159 you'll see there's a ton of free stuff that comes 1829 01:39:20.159 --> 01:39:22.720 with the purchase. We simply wanted to try to level 1830 01:39:22.760 --> 01:39:25.000 that a little bit right so that you don't feel 1831 01:39:25.000 --> 01:39:27.640 like this is about spending money on a book. I 1832 01:39:27.680 --> 01:39:30.039 really want to advance the causes that are in the book, 1833 01:39:30.039 --> 01:39:31.600 and that's the challenge. 1834 01:39:31.319 --> 01:39:34.439 Of course, excellent, excellent book. Again it is the Truth 1835 01:39:34.600 --> 01:39:38.399 in True Crime. That's I in nott hand the Truth 1836 01:39:38.560 --> 01:39:41.560 in Truecrime dot Com. And just before you go, I 1837 01:39:41.560 --> 01:39:44.439 know you got to go. This message is from Guard 1838 01:39:44.439 --> 01:39:47.359 Goldsmith and Rockfinny says thank you both. Cold Case Christianity 1839 01:39:47.520 --> 01:39:50.239 is excellent, and in the conversation today, I'm reminded that 1840 01:39:50.279 --> 01:39:52.600 the trap that even catches people who try to spread 1841 01:39:52.600 --> 01:39:56.239 freedom messages or biblical messages, it seems that one must 1842 01:39:56.279 --> 01:40:01.159 beware of commoditizing oneself. Difficult to promote one work, even 1843 01:40:01.479 --> 01:40:05.760 freedom or biblical work, without that promotion becoming self promoting 1844 01:40:05.840 --> 01:40:09.640 rather than praising God. That's absolutely so good, so good. 1845 01:40:09.720 --> 01:40:11.039 Yeah observation. 1846 01:40:11.239 --> 01:40:14.319 He's written me before he loved Cold Case Christianity, which 1847 01:40:14.319 --> 01:40:16.279 you got the first time I interviewed you. But I'm 1848 01:40:16.359 --> 01:40:19.600 really looking forward to the Truth and True Crime. And 1849 01:40:19.600 --> 01:40:22.960 again there's a website, the Truth and Truecrime dot Com. 1850 01:40:23.000 --> 01:40:25.319 Thank you much, Thank you so much for joining us, Sarah. 1851 01:40:25.800 --> 01:40:30.000 Excellent stuff and such wisdom. It truly is amazing. Looking 1852 01:40:30.039 --> 01:40:31.680 forward to reading it myself. 1853 01:40:31.720 --> 01:40:32.039 Thank you. 1854 01:40:32.119 --> 01:40:34.159 Well, I'm indebted to you. Thanks so much for having 1855 01:40:34.159 --> 01:40:34.319 me on. 1856 01:40:34.520 --> 01:41:56.079 Well, thank you, how are we Clinton, Yeah, she is 1857 01:41:56.399 --> 01:42:02.560 funding these lunatic criminals stop oil. Their most recent caper, 1858 01:42:02.560 --> 01:42:06.039 if you recall, what was it the summer solstice or 1859 01:42:06.079 --> 01:42:09.680 something like that, or Equinox, whatever it was, and they 1860 01:42:10.119 --> 01:42:14.239 run out with fire extinguishers that they put some colored 1861 01:42:14.279 --> 01:42:19.920 paint in and they wanted to spray stonehenge, except that 1862 01:42:19.960 --> 01:42:24.279 they're running. When they started springing it, they were headed 1863 01:42:24.319 --> 01:42:27.000 into the wind and all this stuff blew back on them. 1864 01:42:27.119 --> 01:42:30.000 When you talk about blowback from a protest, that was 1865 01:42:30.119 --> 01:42:35.720 quite literally it. Hillary Clinton funds these lunatic idiot criminals, 1866 01:42:35.840 --> 01:42:39.159 some of which have just gotten several year prison sentences 1867 01:42:39.239 --> 01:42:43.479 and well deserved. They brought traffic on the M twenty 1868 01:42:43.560 --> 01:42:50.600 five motorway back in November twenty twenty two, a reckless act. Frankly, 1869 01:42:50.720 --> 01:42:53.399 you know, you have people who may have an emergency 1870 01:42:53.479 --> 01:42:54.760 they need to be able to get to the hospital 1871 01:42:54.840 --> 01:42:58.199 or something like that. Not to mention how many people 1872 01:42:59.039 --> 01:43:02.600 had their time waste did by these lunatic idiots. They're 1873 01:43:02.680 --> 01:43:05.720 just going around destroying things, you know, spraying paintings and 1874 01:43:05.760 --> 01:43:09.720 all the rest of this stuff, you know, climbing bridges 1875 01:43:09.760 --> 01:43:13.079 and putting stuff up. But they also threw soup over 1876 01:43:13.199 --> 01:43:19.079 Vincent van Gogo's sunflowers in a museum caused damage exceeding 1877 01:43:19.279 --> 01:43:24.119 five thousand pounds. They face a jail sentence for that. 1878 01:43:24.159 --> 01:43:28.119 But five of the activists who blocked the five motorway 1879 01:43:29.199 --> 01:43:33.079 got jail sentences, one of them sentenced to five years, 1880 01:43:33.119 --> 01:43:37.119 the others getting four years each. Some UK members of 1881 01:43:37.119 --> 01:43:39.279 Parliament who called for the group to be designated as 1882 01:43:39.319 --> 01:43:44.920 a terrorist organization. But Hillary Clinton doesn't think they're deplorable. 1883 01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:49.319 She loves them. She gives them money, gives them money 1884 01:43:49.479 --> 01:43:52.199 through an organization that goes into another organization. That's the 1885 01:43:52.199 --> 01:43:54.319 way they always do this stuff. That's what Soros does, 1886 01:43:54.359 --> 01:43:57.840 you know, he puts money into the Tides organization they create, 1887 01:43:57.920 --> 01:44:01.239 and then there's all these other things that what they 1888 01:44:01.279 --> 01:44:03.439 do is they have all these different layers. It makes 1889 01:44:03.479 --> 01:44:05.600 it harder for people to find out where the money 1890 01:44:05.640 --> 01:44:08.720 is coming from. Gives them implausible deniability. And we've seen 1891 01:44:08.760 --> 01:44:11.319 a lot of that in the recent elections here at 1892 01:44:11.319 --> 01:44:14.920 the state level in Tennessee, a lot of outside money 1893 01:44:16.000 --> 01:44:19.439 being filtered through a lot of different organizations for both 1894 01:44:19.479 --> 01:44:24.039 Republican and Democrat candidates at the state level. You know, 1895 01:44:24.239 --> 01:44:27.359 Frank nicely who just lost because of that. He tried 1896 01:44:27.399 --> 01:44:32.119 to stop that out of state funding. It failed, both 1897 01:44:32.159 --> 01:44:35.760 Republicans and Democrats. Majority of Republicans wanted that out of 1898 01:44:35.800 --> 01:44:38.640 state funding. And so the result is that you know, 1899 01:44:38.720 --> 01:44:40.520 if you oppose the banks, you pose the out of 1900 01:44:40.520 --> 01:44:42.560 state funding, the out of state funding comes for you 1901 01:44:43.720 --> 01:44:49.640 with a big campaign of posters and ridiculously absurd lies 1902 01:44:50.079 --> 01:44:53.039 as absurd as this just stop oil stuff. On Thursday, 1903 01:44:53.079 --> 01:44:57.000 The Telegraph reveal the involvement of Hillary Clinton and funding 1904 01:44:57.159 --> 01:45:01.279 criminal activities in the UK. Just Stop Foyle's largest financial 1905 01:45:01.319 --> 01:45:07.680 backer is a California nonprofit, the Climate Emergency Fund. One 1906 01:45:07.680 --> 01:45:11.760 of the Climate Emergency Funds major supporters is Onward Together, 1907 01:45:12.520 --> 01:45:15.000 a campaign organization that was founded by Hillary Clinton. 1908 01:45:15.039 --> 01:45:15.920 So I think I went to. 1909 01:45:17.680 --> 01:45:24.319 Two levels indirect, right, So it's even closer than Kevin Bacon. 1910 01:45:25.000 --> 01:45:28.920 The report notes the donations of the largest contributions by 1911 01:45:29.079 --> 01:45:32.960 Missus Clinton's organization to a nonprofit in the last three years, 1912 01:45:33.600 --> 01:45:36.359 and are funded by public contributions and the sale of 1913 01:45:36.479 --> 01:45:39.079 merchandise from her online shop. 1914 01:45:39.239 --> 01:45:40.479 She's got an online shop. 1915 01:45:42.840 --> 01:45:43.520 I'm with her. 1916 01:45:44.680 --> 01:45:48.760 Onward Together donated three hundred thousand dollars. So the Climate 1917 01:45:48.760 --> 01:45:50.760 Emergency fund in twenty twenty one and a further two 1918 01:45:50.880 --> 01:45:54.560 hundred thousand and twenty twenty two. Isn't it nice to 1919 01:45:54.600 --> 01:45:56.159 have that kind of money when all you've ever done 1920 01:45:56.199 --> 01:45:59.840 in your life is work in politics, never had a 1921 01:46:00.359 --> 01:46:04.000 doing anything. It's like Obama, the Clinton's got so rich. 1922 01:46:04.760 --> 01:46:07.039 The money was then put into a fund and eventually 1923 01:46:07.119 --> 01:46:10.000 used to pay for Just Stop Oil's protests in the UK. 1924 01:46:11.000 --> 01:46:14.159 Just Stop Oil recently vanalyzed Stonehenge as I said before, 1925 01:46:14.199 --> 01:46:20.319 and then after that they caused disruption at London's Heathrow Airport. 1926 01:46:22.039 --> 01:46:25.520 As we've previously stated, Just Stop Oil is an offshoot 1927 01:46:25.720 --> 01:46:30.760 of extinction rebellion, which is also funded by billionaires. Shock 1928 01:46:30.800 --> 01:46:33.920 troops for globalist technocrats are pushing for the same net 1929 01:46:34.279 --> 01:46:39.960 zero agenda, and they are the ultimate creatures of the establishment. Oh, 1930 01:46:40.000 --> 01:46:43.000 that is absolutely true. Here's the key about Paris. Here's 1931 01:46:43.039 --> 01:46:47.199 what's interesting about Paris. Paris is a preview of what 1932 01:46:47.239 --> 01:46:49.479 the Paris Accords want life to be like. When we 1933 01:46:49.520 --> 01:46:52.960 talk about the miserable sleeping accommodations and everything else, and 1934 01:46:53.000 --> 01:46:56.840 no air conditioning in the Olympic village and no meat 1935 01:46:57.399 --> 01:47:02.399 and of course a filthy, filthy river that the mayor 1936 01:47:02.399 --> 01:47:05.520 of Paris cannot be bothered to clean up. All of 1937 01:47:05.560 --> 01:47:08.840 this is a preview of what these people want for us, 1938 01:47:08.960 --> 01:47:13.159 the utter contempt that they have so and then of 1939 01:47:13.159 --> 01:47:16.560 course the social and religious agenda that is a key 1940 01:47:16.600 --> 01:47:22.479 part of it as well. Paris Olympics lacks meat based proteins, 1941 01:47:22.520 --> 01:47:25.399 so the athletes are complaining about this, and some of 1942 01:47:25.439 --> 01:47:29.359 them are as they shipped in air conditioning, they're shipping 1943 01:47:29.399 --> 01:47:32.600 in food now to feed their people because the Parisians 1944 01:47:32.640 --> 01:47:35.600 won't do it. And of course Paris is governed by 1945 01:47:35.680 --> 01:47:39.199 Marxist mayor. The same Marxist mayor put on a wetsuit 1946 01:47:39.239 --> 01:47:41.079 and waited in the water, so see it's fine, gets 1947 01:47:41.079 --> 01:47:45.000 out now. These people are getting really sick who are 1948 01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:50.239 having to participate in events there. British athletes flew an 1949 01:47:50.279 --> 01:47:55.239 additional chef out to Paris to bridge a shortfall of supplies. 1950 01:47:56.239 --> 01:47:59.159 Their own chef their own supplies. The CEO of the 1951 01:47:59.199 --> 01:48:02.560 UK Olympic Is Association lamented the lack of protein, especially 1952 01:48:02.640 --> 01:48:03.800 chicken and eggs. 1953 01:48:04.119 --> 01:48:05.800 Must add bird flu or something. 1954 01:48:06.680 --> 01:48:10.479 Nothing on the menu. The Pairs twenty twenty four document 1955 01:48:10.640 --> 01:48:15.359 called food Vision. Food Vision isn't interesting. These people always 1956 01:48:15.399 --> 01:48:19.199 talk about vision. You know we have the vision zero. 1957 01:48:19.800 --> 01:48:21.960 It's part of the net zero stuff. Ban all the 1958 01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:25.439 cars vision zero. Well, food vision is the same thing. 1959 01:48:25.520 --> 01:48:30.119 Let's ban all the real food. When they talk about vision. 1960 01:48:31.119 --> 01:48:34.000 It really is the blind leading the blind, isn't it? 1961 01:48:34.960 --> 01:48:39.119 Reduced animal protein to lower the games carbon footprint? Athletes 1962 01:48:39.199 --> 01:48:43.520 requiring high animal protein diets is a myth, says the 1963 01:48:44.439 --> 01:48:48.159 European Policy Manager. It is a myth that has been 1964 01:48:48.199 --> 01:48:51.359 busted a long time ago. Those perpetuating it in these 1965 01:48:51.439 --> 01:48:55.119 games aren't basing their arguments on science. 1966 01:48:55.439 --> 01:48:56.159 Well there you go. 1967 01:48:56.239 --> 01:48:59.359 See he has the science and he isn't going to 1968 01:48:59.359 --> 01:49:02.680 debate you. If you disagree with him, you're not science. 1969 01:49:03.039 --> 01:49:06.560 And Brussels. The food issues at the Olympics sparked reactions, 1970 01:49:06.600 --> 01:49:10.359 as EU also aims to promote plant based diets in 1971 01:49:10.399 --> 01:49:15.760 a similar fashion under its Farm to Fork strategy, which 1972 01:49:15.800 --> 01:49:19.399 is the EU's flagship food policy. You see what you're 1973 01:49:19.479 --> 01:49:23.039 the insanity that you're seeing there at the Paris Games. 1974 01:49:24.239 --> 01:49:28.039 It's all just to put this out there. They want 1975 01:49:28.079 --> 01:49:30.680 to have the athletes not eat meat so they can 1976 01:49:30.720 --> 01:49:32.560 say you don't need to eat meat. Look, we got 1977 01:49:32.600 --> 01:49:35.520 Olympic athletes out here competing and they're not feeding them 1978 01:49:35.560 --> 01:49:40.279 any meat. And the next thing you know, they're going 1979 01:49:40.319 --> 01:49:42.319 to have some of these people who won metals and 1980 01:49:42.359 --> 01:49:45.640 they're going to put them on a box of insect cereal, 1981 01:49:46.039 --> 01:49:49.760 just like Bruce Gender to sell you the insect cereal. 1982 01:49:50.840 --> 01:49:53.199 Prescribers of these diets have underestimated the need and the 1983 01:49:53.239 --> 01:49:57.560 desire for high protein foods offered by animal proteins in 1984 01:49:57.640 --> 01:50:02.560 order to repair muscles and to recover between events and 1985 01:50:02.640 --> 01:50:08.279 training sessions. But they said, the policy managers are upfront 1986 01:50:08.319 --> 01:50:12.279 about it. This is an opportunity to showcase to millions 1987 01:50:12.279 --> 01:50:16.159 of people that plant proteins are better alternative for the 1988 01:50:16.239 --> 01:50:20.760 planet and can also support athletic performance. See if they 1989 01:50:20.800 --> 01:50:24.560 can do this stuff. That's why they're coming down so 1990 01:50:24.640 --> 01:50:28.319 hard on the athletes. So you can sleep on cardboard 1991 01:50:29.000 --> 01:50:31.960 and you can eat the bugs or the vegetables and 1992 01:50:32.039 --> 01:50:34.840 have no protein, and you can still compete, and somebody's 1993 01:50:34.880 --> 01:50:36.399 going to win a gold medal, and they can take 1994 01:50:36.399 --> 01:50:40.800 whoever won the gold medal, and with any unable to 1995 01:50:40.840 --> 01:50:43.319 set a record because of no sleep and no protein, 1996 01:50:43.359 --> 01:50:45.000 but they can they still win a gold medal, and 1997 01:50:45.039 --> 01:50:48.399 so we can use them as a poster child to 1998 01:50:48.479 --> 01:50:51.520 sell these kind of measures to other people. No air conditioning, 1999 01:50:51.680 --> 01:50:58.359 cardboard beds, eating plants, and drinking untreated water in the Seine, 2000 01:50:58.640 --> 01:51:45.039 as you are trying to compete in these events, hypo. 2001 01:52:27.039 --> 01:52:27.279 All right. 2002 01:52:27.359 --> 01:52:29.760 Joining us now is David Steinmann. He's the author and 2003 01:52:29.840 --> 01:52:34.039 co author of the groundbreaking bestseller's Diet for a Poison 2004 01:52:34.079 --> 01:52:37.520 Planet and The Safe Shopper's Bible. He's also a director 2005 01:52:37.680 --> 01:52:41.279 of h LF, featured as one of the experts and 2006 01:52:41.359 --> 01:52:45.359 activists in an HBO Max documentary Not So Pretty, and 2007 01:52:45.439 --> 01:52:48.359 his investigative reporting and writing have won awards from Best 2008 01:52:48.399 --> 01:52:52.199 of the West, California Newspaper Publishers Association, the Sierra Club, 2009 01:52:52.199 --> 01:52:55.600 and the Green Book Festival. He's publisher of Healthy Living 2010 01:52:55.720 --> 01:53:00.960 g magazine and serves as director of the nonprofit HLF, 2011 01:53:01.039 --> 01:53:04.560 which is Healthy Living Foundation. His book that we're going 2012 01:53:04.640 --> 01:53:08.800 to be talking about today is Raising Healthy Kids, Protecting 2013 01:53:08.840 --> 01:53:12.239 Your Children from Hidden chemical toxins, and of course you 2014 01:53:12.239 --> 01:53:15.600 can find that on Amazon probably everywhere else as well. 2015 01:53:15.720 --> 01:53:17.399 Thank you for joining us, mister. 2016 01:53:17.239 --> 01:53:19.199 Sin Oh, it's great to be here today. 2017 01:53:19.439 --> 01:53:20.640 Well, thank you, thank you. 2018 01:53:21.399 --> 01:53:24.239 I was interested when I looked at this. Let's begin 2019 01:53:24.520 --> 01:53:27.760 with the youngest kids, the kids that are developing, and 2020 01:53:27.880 --> 01:53:31.720 the risk to them from chemicals in the household and 2021 01:53:31.800 --> 01:53:35.520 chemicals that the pregnant mother may come in contact with. 2022 01:53:36.920 --> 01:53:40.800 Yeah, that's a great issue, David, because our lives has 2023 01:53:40.800 --> 01:53:45.760 become so inundated with chemical toxins, most of them not 2024 01:53:46.520 --> 01:53:49.720 revealed to us, but hidden. I'll just give you an example. 2025 01:53:49.800 --> 01:53:52.000 You were talking about our youngest kids, or rather are 2026 01:53:52.920 --> 01:53:57.560 during pregnancy, when so much of our kids destiny really 2027 01:53:57.720 --> 01:54:02.319 is is determined, yes, from exposures that we may not 2028 01:54:02.359 --> 01:54:05.239 even be thinking about, like, for example, cosmetics. 2029 01:54:05.880 --> 01:54:06.199 You know. 2030 01:54:07.960 --> 01:54:11.640 A lot of cosmetics don't reveal the hidden chemicals that 2031 01:54:11.720 --> 01:54:13.720 can cause harm to the fetus. 2032 01:54:15.359 --> 01:54:16.000 Or the embryo. 2033 01:54:16.119 --> 01:54:21.199 For example, there's a chemical called thalate. And you know 2034 01:54:21.279 --> 01:54:25.640 everyone is talking about plastic today, Plastic in our water, 2035 01:54:26.239 --> 01:54:30.399 plastic even in our bodies, in the ocean, in our food. 2036 01:54:31.079 --> 01:54:36.119 And what researchers have found is that thalates, which are plastics, 2037 01:54:36.159 --> 01:54:38.479 they're used in cosmetics to make them a little more 2038 01:54:38.600 --> 01:54:44.319 pliable or holding cosmetics. When mom is using these cosmetics 2039 01:54:44.319 --> 01:54:49.720 and just has high normal everyday levels, high normal everyday levels, 2040 01:54:50.319 --> 01:54:53.079 her child is at much higher risk for being born 2041 01:54:53.199 --> 01:54:57.159 with lost IQ points. As many as six to seven 2042 01:54:57.239 --> 01:54:58.880 IQ points could be lost. 2043 01:54:59.479 --> 01:54:59.960 That's a lot. 2044 01:55:00.279 --> 01:55:03.119 Yeah, plus the yeah, I'm sorry. I was going to 2045 01:55:03.159 --> 01:55:05.279 ask what kind of cosmetics? I mean, is it we're 2046 01:55:05.319 --> 01:55:07.960 talking about lipstick or face powder or high makeup? 2047 01:55:08.199 --> 01:55:08.920 What kind of stuff? 2048 01:55:09.119 --> 01:55:09.319 You know? 2049 01:55:09.720 --> 01:55:13.520 It's really pervasive. I'll get just give you an example 2050 01:55:13.560 --> 01:55:16.079 from the book. I talk about how when my kids 2051 01:55:16.079 --> 01:55:20.479 brought home fragrances. Right, you know, every teenager gets really 2052 01:55:20.520 --> 01:55:25.000 concerned about social acceptance, so they start using deodorant, fragrances 2053 01:55:25.079 --> 01:55:25.399 and all. 2054 01:55:26.119 --> 01:55:28.520 So my kid, one of my sons. 2055 01:55:28.199 --> 01:55:32.720 Brought home English leather cologe, which is which I think, David, 2056 01:55:32.720 --> 01:55:35.720 which I think every teenager since like nineteen sixty five 2057 01:55:35.840 --> 01:55:37.039 is probably used. 2058 01:55:38.079 --> 01:55:39.960 That's right. I remember using when I was a teenager. 2059 01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:40.520 Oh I know. 2060 01:55:40.600 --> 01:55:44.119 And it hasn't stopped, my friend, it hasn't stopped. But 2061 01:55:44.199 --> 01:55:47.000 we measured it for Thoullate. I actually had it sent 2062 01:55:47.079 --> 01:55:50.479 to the lab and it was loaded with so much dalay. 2063 01:55:50.560 --> 01:55:52.800 And I told my son, I said, look, you know, 2064 01:55:52.840 --> 01:55:55.079 I want to have grandkids and I want your kids 2065 01:55:55.159 --> 01:55:58.319 to be really healthy, and if you keep using this stuff, 2066 01:55:58.359 --> 01:56:01.279 I could speak freakily, you know, frankly to him I said, 2067 01:56:01.319 --> 01:56:05.239 it's going to damage your testicles and your sperm because 2068 01:56:05.279 --> 01:56:08.039 what researchers have found out is that thllites act like 2069 01:56:08.079 --> 01:56:09.880 the sex hormone estrogen. 2070 01:56:11.079 --> 01:56:11.840 So when your. 2071 01:56:11.760 --> 01:56:15.880 Son's testicles are loaded up with thalate, which they will 2072 01:56:15.920 --> 01:56:19.359 be if mom continues to use the wrong cosmetics, not 2073 01:56:19.399 --> 01:56:23.119 only does he lose IQ points in fertility and could 2074 01:56:23.159 --> 01:56:27.920 be at risk for ADHD, but he loses his testosterone. 2075 01:56:28.880 --> 01:56:33.920 Because thalatees are like sex hormones, they imitate the hormone estrogen. 2076 01:56:35.119 --> 01:56:37.760 So when we ask why do our daughters now have 2077 01:56:38.079 --> 01:56:43.520 why do our daughters have so much endometrial endometriosis or 2078 01:56:43.560 --> 01:56:49.119 polycystic ovary disease, the answer is we're overloading them with 2079 01:56:49.640 --> 01:56:53.039 estrogens that are hidden. And one of the big culprits 2080 01:56:53.079 --> 01:56:56.359 is cosmetics. So I do share in raising healthy kids. 2081 01:56:56.640 --> 01:57:00.479 How do you find safe cosmetics? I make it really simple, 2082 01:57:01.119 --> 01:57:02.279 but it's so important. 2083 01:57:02.520 --> 01:57:04.640 And of course we're talking about we laughed about English 2084 01:57:04.720 --> 01:57:07.119 leather and it's been around forever, but the formulations are 2085 01:57:07.199 --> 01:57:10.760 changing all the time. Right, you know today, the products 2086 01:57:10.800 --> 01:57:13.359 that you get today are going to likely be very 2087 01:57:13.399 --> 01:57:16.319 different than what you use as a teenager, even if 2088 01:57:16.319 --> 01:57:18.560 it is the same brand and the same fragrance is 2089 01:57:18.560 --> 01:57:21.560 still going to be probably a different formulation. They're constantly 2090 01:57:22.239 --> 01:57:25.760 changing and improving these things, right in terms of the 2091 01:57:25.800 --> 01:57:28.239 things that they use for the manufacturing process and that 2092 01:57:28.319 --> 01:57:28.800 type of thing. 2093 01:57:30.039 --> 01:57:32.760 If you're looking at the ingredient list, you certainly will 2094 01:57:32.800 --> 01:57:35.359 see that there are a lot of chemical toxins being 2095 01:57:35.439 --> 01:57:38.399 used in cosmetics today that we're not used twenty or 2096 01:57:38.399 --> 01:57:44.600 thirty years ago. And cosmetics have always been a problem 2097 01:57:44.680 --> 01:57:49.479 in society. I mean, you know, the Romans used cosmetics 2098 01:57:49.479 --> 01:57:53.199 with lead and mercury for the cosmetics ecuts. You know, 2099 01:57:53.560 --> 01:57:58.760 so really, in some ways, David, the safety has not 2100 01:57:58.880 --> 01:58:02.479 really improved. It's probably just as bad today as it 2101 01:58:02.600 --> 01:58:05.720 was two thousand years ago. It's just that we've changed 2102 01:58:05.760 --> 01:58:09.800 the chemicals that are causing problems and we're not telling. 2103 01:58:10.439 --> 01:58:13.199 The worst thing is, you know, people would buy safe 2104 01:58:13.279 --> 01:58:16.520 products if they only knew, but the way that it's 2105 01:58:17.279 --> 01:58:20.960 the way the game is played or rigged, industry doesn't 2106 01:58:20.960 --> 01:58:24.319 have to tell consumers when they know they're hidden chemical toxins. 2107 01:58:24.439 --> 01:58:26.920 I agree, yeah, and that's why my group Healthy Living 2108 01:58:26.960 --> 01:58:30.760 Foundation has done so many legal actions in Washington, d c. 2109 01:58:31.319 --> 01:58:35.479 In California to make companies reveal these hidden chemical toxins 2110 01:58:35.479 --> 01:58:36.920 in their consumer products. 2111 01:58:37.079 --> 01:58:38.279 And of course, you know, we look at this and 2112 01:58:38.319 --> 01:58:40.000 we say, well, you know that's going to be fine 2113 01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:41.760 because I use that as a cad or whatever. I've 2114 01:58:41.760 --> 01:58:44.680 always used that. Well, that's not the same product. And 2115 01:58:44.720 --> 01:58:46.439 you might look at these products and you say, well, 2116 01:58:46.600 --> 01:58:48.239 I know I don't want something that's got to lead 2117 01:58:48.319 --> 01:58:51.760 in it or other things like that. But they might 2118 01:58:51.800 --> 01:58:53.279 get the lead out, but now they put in some 2119 01:58:53.359 --> 01:58:55.520 new chemical. But you have no idea what this is 2120 01:58:55.600 --> 01:58:57.680 or what the health effects of it are. And so 2121 01:58:57.800 --> 01:58:59.640 that's how, as you point out, that's why you got 2122 01:58:59.640 --> 01:59:03.359 to keep keep current on this, why something like your book, 2123 01:59:03.399 --> 01:59:05.399 your publication is going to help people because those things 2124 01:59:05.399 --> 01:59:08.079 are constantly changing. Oh, they know about that one, so 2125 01:59:08.159 --> 01:59:09.800 let's take that out. But we've got this new thing 2126 01:59:09.800 --> 01:59:11.520 here and nobody's tested it. We're going to put that 2127 01:59:11.560 --> 01:59:13.880 in and it can be something that you don't even 2128 01:59:13.960 --> 01:59:19.199 necessarily really internalize, but in terms of eating, but you're 2129 01:59:19.199 --> 01:59:21.600 still going to be getting that in through your skin, 2130 01:59:22.039 --> 01:59:24.239 breathing it in, other things like that, and it's going 2131 01:59:24.279 --> 01:59:26.520 to have a big effect on you, isn't it. 2132 01:59:28.159 --> 01:59:29.000 Yeah, you know the. 2133 01:59:30.720 --> 01:59:35.000 Thing is there's no pre market safety testing for cosmetics either. Yeah, 2134 01:59:35.000 --> 01:59:38.359 so it's not like, as you mentioned, the concoctions are 2135 01:59:38.359 --> 01:59:40.439 being tested to see what they will actually do to 2136 01:59:40.479 --> 01:59:44.640 our reproductive capacity. We and our kids are actually the 2137 01:59:44.760 --> 01:59:46.119 test animals. 2138 01:59:45.840 --> 01:59:46.520 In this case. 2139 01:59:47.039 --> 01:59:49.159 That's right, That's what I was just talking about. That 2140 01:59:49.239 --> 01:59:51.279 with vaccines, that's becoming the new thing. You know, Oh, 2141 01:59:51.319 --> 01:59:54.680 you got an MRI vaccine, you're approved, go straight through. 2142 01:59:55.039 --> 01:59:57.520 If they got a technology like five year or something, 2143 01:59:57.520 --> 01:59:59.880 we don't need to do any tests. We need the 2144 02:00:00.079 --> 02:00:01.640 so I let's just run this thing through, which is 2145 02:00:01.720 --> 02:00:04.079 rubber stampus through. And of course that is going on 2146 02:00:04.159 --> 02:00:06.840 with everything, but especially with things that people are not 2147 02:00:06.920 --> 02:00:10.800 necessarily even thinking about. In terms of cosmetics, you've mentioned 2148 02:00:10.800 --> 02:00:11.960 things like bubble baths. 2149 02:00:13.960 --> 02:00:16.960 Yeah, as a matter of fact, bubble bath is another 2150 02:00:17.119 --> 02:00:20.680 a big culprit. A lot of bubble baths are made 2151 02:00:21.039 --> 02:00:26.319 using what's called an ethoxylated alcohol, and they're contaminated with dioxane. 2152 02:00:26.640 --> 02:00:31.000 So essentially, you know, this same dioxane, by the way, 2153 02:00:31.119 --> 02:00:35.239 is in shampoos. My nonprofit group, the Healthy Living Foundation, 2154 02:00:35.359 --> 02:00:39.039 we sued doctor and Gamble. We sued them for having 2155 02:00:39.119 --> 02:00:44.680 high amounts of a carcinogen in pantein and herbal essences shampoos, 2156 02:00:45.720 --> 02:00:49.279 and we got them to reduce the levels by ninety 2157 02:00:49.319 --> 02:00:52.279 percent in a consent judgment that we want in California 2158 02:00:52.319 --> 02:00:56.920 Superior Court to make those products much safer. But you know, 2159 02:00:57.960 --> 02:01:01.720 bubble bath like shampoos will continue in a carcinogen called dioxide. 2160 02:01:02.079 --> 02:01:04.399 Here's one big tip that's in my book though, that 2161 02:01:04.800 --> 02:01:07.560 I want to share with your listeners. If you see 2162 02:01:07.600 --> 02:01:11.239 an ingredient on your cosmetic label that has these three 2163 02:01:11.319 --> 02:01:17.560 letters eth like sodium loris sulfate, don't buy it. Those 2164 02:01:17.600 --> 02:01:21.039 are the ingredients that will be contaminated with chemicals that 2165 02:01:21.119 --> 02:01:24.239 cause cancer. So, mom and dad when you're buying or 2166 02:01:24.319 --> 02:01:26.800 mom and dad, if you're buying shampoos for your kids, 2167 02:01:27.039 --> 02:01:29.039 or if you're just buying them for yourself or a 2168 02:01:29.079 --> 02:01:33.680 bubble bath, the big tip is avoid any chemicals with ETCH. 2169 02:01:34.239 --> 02:01:36.640 You'll see it on the label and if you do, 2170 02:01:37.159 --> 02:01:39.520 you know that company is not looking out for your 2171 02:01:39.520 --> 02:01:40.800 health or your kid's health. 2172 02:01:40.960 --> 02:01:42.039 Wow, that's very important. 2173 02:01:42.039 --> 02:01:44.119 Well, we'll check our shampoo today. 2174 02:01:44.279 --> 02:01:46.000 I'm going to get your book as well. 2175 02:01:47.359 --> 02:01:48.960 When we look at all this and you mentioned some 2176 02:01:48.960 --> 02:01:50.640 of the biggest brands that are there a course of 2177 02:01:50.680 --> 02:01:54.960 Johnson and Johnson's and something as fundamental as baby powder 2178 02:01:55.000 --> 02:01:57.159 that has gone on for decades and they continue to 2179 02:01:57.199 --> 02:02:00.199 do it even after it was identified. They continue to 2180 02:02:00.920 --> 02:02:02.359 run that through, didn't they. 2181 02:02:02.439 --> 02:02:05.840 You're talking about the talk issue that baby powder has 2182 02:02:05.880 --> 02:02:09.960 had TALC and that has been linked with ovarian cancer. 2183 02:02:11.199 --> 02:02:13.760 So it's a really big issue. But I'll tell you 2184 02:02:13.800 --> 02:02:15.680 something else, David, if you want to move a little 2185 02:02:15.680 --> 02:02:19.479 from cosmetics to foods, I'll just give you an you know, 2186 02:02:19.520 --> 02:02:23.520 while we're on the topic of our children. You know, 2187 02:02:24.079 --> 02:02:27.920 in court in California, the HLF, the Healthy Living Foundation, 2188 02:02:29.079 --> 02:02:32.960 we had to sue a large almond nut butter company. 2189 02:02:33.800 --> 02:02:36.039 And I don't know if you want to mention names 2190 02:02:36.119 --> 02:02:38.359 or not, but it's helpful and I don't mind sharing 2191 02:02:38.439 --> 02:02:42.000 a little bit because it's in public record, actually, but 2192 02:02:42.079 --> 02:02:45.119 we sue Justin's Nut Butters, which is one of the 2193 02:02:45.119 --> 02:02:48.920 most popular brands in the country, because they had such 2194 02:02:48.960 --> 02:02:53.439 a high amount of an industrial chemical called acrylamide that 2195 02:02:53.479 --> 02:02:57.000 they were not telling their consumers about. Now, my kids, 2196 02:02:57.319 --> 02:02:59.840 like a lot of kids are trying to go healthy. 2197 02:03:00.079 --> 02:03:02.399 A lot of folks are trying to go paleo, so 2198 02:03:02.439 --> 02:03:05.159 they are buying a lot of almond butters for example. 2199 02:03:05.600 --> 02:03:08.239 And what I share in raising healthy kids protecting your 2200 02:03:08.319 --> 02:03:11.359 children from hidden chemical toxins is when you're at that 2201 02:03:11.399 --> 02:03:14.520 Whole Foods and you're looking for nut butters, you could 2202 02:03:14.520 --> 02:03:17.039 reach for the Whole Foods nut butter, which we also 2203 02:03:17.159 --> 02:03:20.880 tested and was very low and very safe compared to 2204 02:03:20.920 --> 02:03:24.880 the justice, but neither is labeled for this industrial chemical 2205 02:03:24.960 --> 02:03:28.319 called acrylamide, so the consumer is left in the dark. 2206 02:03:28.800 --> 02:03:33.720 The problem is that a chrylamide, as we're talking about 2207 02:03:33.720 --> 02:03:37.560 with TALC, is linked with an increasing incidence of endometrial 2208 02:03:38.319 --> 02:03:42.279 cancer in our daughters, and that risk begins when they're 2209 02:03:42.359 --> 02:03:45.880 kids and they're eating snack foods because the foods most 2210 02:03:45.920 --> 02:03:50.359 likely to have acrylamide are snack foods like nut butters 2211 02:03:50.880 --> 02:03:54.880 or potato chips or French fries. And if we let 2212 02:03:54.880 --> 02:03:58.840 our kids keep eating these foods, we wonder again, why 2213 02:03:58.960 --> 02:04:04.399 is there so much endometriosis, endometrial cancer, reproductive cancers, breast cancer, 2214 02:04:04.560 --> 02:04:08.479 all of these cancers. Well, I mentioned that some chemicals 2215 02:04:08.479 --> 02:04:12.920 act like estrogen. Acrylamide also acts like the hormone estrogen. 2216 02:04:13.399 --> 02:04:15.960 So when our daughters are eating it. It messes with 2217 02:04:16.039 --> 02:04:19.239 their genes and causes them to produce a toxic form 2218 02:04:19.279 --> 02:04:23.399 of estrogen that then increases their risk for reproductive cancers. 2219 02:04:24.159 --> 02:04:28.159 So again, David, these things are not being shared with consumers, 2220 02:04:28.159 --> 02:04:30.880 and that's why I really felt it was necessary to 2221 02:04:30.920 --> 02:04:34.560 write the book and share this information. You know, people 2222 02:04:34.680 --> 02:04:37.800 can one of the fastest ways to make change in 2223 02:04:37.800 --> 02:04:41.039 Americas through the marketplace, through the free market. And we've 2224 02:04:41.079 --> 02:04:43.319 kind of always said, well, America is a free market, 2225 02:04:43.359 --> 02:04:46.880 we're capitalists. But how free as a market when the 2226 02:04:46.880 --> 02:04:51.520 manufacturers are withholding such vital information from the consumers and 2227 02:04:51.640 --> 02:04:54.600 dumbing them down. And that's what I'm fighting against, to 2228 02:04:54.720 --> 02:04:57.960 make people smarter and let them see what's really going 2229 02:04:58.039 --> 02:05:00.800 on so they can protect themselves and their families. 2230 02:05:00.960 --> 02:05:02.520 That's right. You can't have a marketplace. 2231 02:05:02.560 --> 02:05:04.600 You can't have a free marketplace that the consumers don't 2232 02:05:04.600 --> 02:05:06.239 have any information exactly. 2233 02:05:06.319 --> 02:05:07.560 That's exactly. Say. 2234 02:05:07.720 --> 02:05:10.119 Let me ask you this, Why are they putting these 2235 02:05:10.239 --> 02:05:13.760 industrial chemicals in. Is it to be able to process 2236 02:05:13.760 --> 02:05:15.399 the food more easily. Is it to make it go 2237 02:05:15.439 --> 02:05:18.279 through the machines better? Is that why these industrial chemicals 2238 02:05:18.319 --> 02:05:20.920 are finding their way in processing? 2239 02:05:21.039 --> 02:05:24.520 Is a big part of it. Sometimes companies are just 2240 02:05:24.760 --> 02:05:29.880 cheap and they buy cheap materials and inferior materials. 2241 02:05:30.520 --> 02:05:30.760 You know. 2242 02:05:31.920 --> 02:05:35.439 Also, companies pretend like they have all these testing procedures 2243 02:05:35.479 --> 02:05:39.439 in place. They'll say our products are third party tested, 2244 02:05:39.479 --> 02:05:40.399 et cetera, et cetera. 2245 02:05:40.960 --> 02:05:41.840 What they're really. 2246 02:05:41.680 --> 02:05:44.640 Saying is, when we buy our materials, we tell our 2247 02:05:44.720 --> 02:05:49.399 raw source material suppliers to test the products for us 2248 02:05:49.439 --> 02:05:52.720 and give us those test results. But what they don't 2249 02:05:52.760 --> 02:05:55.439 tell their suppliers is this is what we want to 2250 02:05:55.479 --> 02:05:57.640 test you for, what we want you to test for, 2251 02:05:58.119 --> 02:06:00.880 and these are the levels we want you to test that. Now, 2252 02:06:01.000 --> 02:06:03.159 because I've been in the trench is so long, David, 2253 02:06:03.199 --> 02:06:06.800 I know, with the suppliers to the brand say is, well, 2254 02:06:06.800 --> 02:06:09.359 we're going to test the products, but we're not really 2255 02:06:09.359 --> 02:06:11.680 going to look for the chemicals that they're concerned about, 2256 02:06:12.000 --> 02:06:14.039 nor are we going to test at levels low enough 2257 02:06:14.079 --> 02:06:16.159 to find them. So we're going to send them a 2258 02:06:16.239 --> 02:06:20.600 quality certificate that says that everything is non detectable. Well, 2259 02:06:20.640 --> 02:06:22.680 we go in there and test the products with really 2260 02:06:22.720 --> 02:06:26.000 good lab methods, and that's when we find the thaltes, 2261 02:06:26.039 --> 02:06:31.520 for example, or the dioxane. So this is really kind 2262 02:06:31.560 --> 02:06:35.760 of a self induced blindness that the companies don't want 2263 02:06:35.800 --> 02:06:38.439 to know the truth about their own products, so they 2264 02:06:38.520 --> 02:06:41.800 leave it to their suppliers, and their suppliers willingly lie 2265 02:06:41.840 --> 02:06:45.119 and deceive them because they want to keep supplying inferior 2266 02:06:45.199 --> 02:06:48.279 materials that don't cost as much to process. 2267 02:06:48.680 --> 02:06:49.000 Yeah. 2268 02:06:49.079 --> 02:06:51.039 Yeah, we always see that. I mean we see with 2269 02:06:51.039 --> 02:06:57.640 political polls with when they're looking at pharmaceuticals. You might 2270 02:06:57.680 --> 02:07:00.000 have three different companies and they both got pretty much 2271 02:07:00.119 --> 02:07:02.560 the same. They got three different drugs to teach a 2272 02:07:02.840 --> 02:07:06.520 to treat a particular problem, and so they'll each hire 2273 02:07:06.560 --> 02:07:10.760 their people to test it, and lo and behold, the 2274 02:07:10.800 --> 02:07:13.039 people that you hired, that you were paying are going 2275 02:07:13.079 --> 02:07:15.439 to say that your brand is better than Brand B 2276 02:07:15.560 --> 02:07:17.920 and Brand C. They've seen that over and over again, 2277 02:07:17.960 --> 02:07:21.239 and so that's really what's happening because there isn't any oversight, 2278 02:07:21.319 --> 02:07:24.359 There isn't any information outside this. You're our director of 2279 02:07:24.399 --> 02:07:27.880 the Chemical Toxin Working Group. Tell us little bit about that. 2280 02:07:29.239 --> 02:07:32.680 Well, we began in twenty twelve, and our mission is 2281 02:07:32.720 --> 02:07:37.399 to make companies reveal the hidden chemical toxins in their products. 2282 02:07:37.439 --> 02:07:41.920 And we do a lot of testing and I'm always 2283 02:07:41.960 --> 02:07:44.800 buying play it's you know, I spend hours every day 2284 02:07:45.279 --> 02:07:48.039 or one of our shoppers will buying products. For example, 2285 02:07:49.800 --> 02:07:54.399 we took on Bumblebee and Chicken of the Sea and 2286 02:07:54.439 --> 02:07:58.640 we took them on for selling oysters and clams from 2287 02:07:58.760 --> 02:08:03.520 China that were filled with lead. So these products have 2288 02:08:03.640 --> 02:08:07.720 so much lead in them that one and folks, these 2289 02:08:07.760 --> 02:08:09.840 products are being sold in your neighborhood. So if you 2290 02:08:09.920 --> 02:08:16.119 see canned clams, oysters, mussels and you want to have kids, 2291 02:08:16.159 --> 02:08:20.279 these are not the products to buy. They have so 2292 02:08:20.439 --> 02:08:23.880 much lead and cadmium in them. So much lead that 2293 02:08:24.159 --> 02:08:27.880 eating one serving of one of these products is equivalent 2294 02:08:27.960 --> 02:08:31.560 to a drinking about twenty glasses of drinking water from 2295 02:08:31.600 --> 02:08:34.840 Flint in Michigan during the height of the lead crisis. 2296 02:08:35.560 --> 02:08:39.399 So I'm telling mom and dad, don't buy these canned 2297 02:08:39.520 --> 02:08:42.159 shellfish products. If you want to have kids, You're going 2298 02:08:42.199 --> 02:08:46.800 to inundict your fetus or your children with heavy metals. 2299 02:08:47.319 --> 02:08:49.560 So we take on big companies. In that case, we 2300 02:08:49.600 --> 02:08:52.119 took on Chicken of the Seed, as I mentioned, Bumblebee, 2301 02:08:52.720 --> 02:08:57.079 Kroger the supermarket chain, and Walmart all in one court case. 2302 02:08:57.880 --> 02:09:01.760 And these are billion dollar companies. They joined together to 2303 02:09:01.800 --> 02:09:04.720 fight us. But we want we want in court, we 2304 02:09:04.800 --> 02:09:08.439 got a consent judgment, and that consent judgment said, now, 2305 02:09:08.800 --> 02:09:12.600 at least in California, where we have stronger consumer laws, 2306 02:09:13.039 --> 02:09:16.520 you have to notify the consumer on the label if 2307 02:09:16.560 --> 02:09:20.439 your product contains heavy metals like letther cadmia. So we 2308 02:09:20.560 --> 02:09:25.039 run a big victory for consumers, and we continue to 2309 02:09:25.079 --> 02:09:28.880 do that. We continue to work in the area of foods, cosmetics, 2310 02:09:29.720 --> 02:09:35.520 vitamin supplements, and we test and we test. Another product 2311 02:09:35.560 --> 02:09:41.600 we found this is how we screw up fertility in America. 2312 02:09:42.560 --> 02:09:45.960 There was a very popular olive oil product we tested 2313 02:09:46.399 --> 02:09:49.199 that had a chemical called carbaryl in it. They weren't 2314 02:09:49.199 --> 02:09:54.960 telling their customers, but we enlisted the help of the best, 2315 02:09:55.199 --> 02:09:58.880 the most respected researcher in this field in the country, 2316 02:09:58.920 --> 02:10:01.560 if not the world, who had found that carboyl at 2317 02:10:01.720 --> 02:10:05.119 very low levels, David the Left from Everyday Exposures, was 2318 02:10:05.199 --> 02:10:08.479 damaging men's sperm. So here you have a company selling 2319 02:10:08.560 --> 02:10:12.399 olive oil products with carborel. Now men and women are 2320 02:10:12.479 --> 02:10:15.159 using olive oil products daily. We use it for our 2321 02:10:15.199 --> 02:10:19.199 health because of the fats, the different kinds of fats. 2322 02:10:19.239 --> 02:10:23.000 They're olive oil. But if you're using it daily and 2323 02:10:23.000 --> 02:10:25.680 it has so much carbaryl in it, and you're on 2324 02:10:25.800 --> 02:10:28.439 the cusp of either being having a family or not, 2325 02:10:28.760 --> 02:10:31.760 as so many couples are in America. This is the 2326 02:10:31.840 --> 02:10:35.199 kind of exposure that can bring you from able to 2327 02:10:35.239 --> 02:10:38.520 have a child to not being able to have a child. Yes, 2328 02:10:38.760 --> 02:10:41.600 and it's every day, and you're not being told, and 2329 02:10:41.720 --> 02:10:45.359 you know your mom and dad are going, why aren't 2330 02:10:45.359 --> 02:10:49.840 we conceiving? And dad is going, I don't know. I'm 2331 02:10:49.880 --> 02:10:52.880 eating olive oil every day and trying to be really healthy. 2332 02:10:53.359 --> 02:10:55.239 But what he does and know, of course, is that 2333 02:10:55.239 --> 02:10:58.600 that olive oil is tainted with carborel and that's damaging. 2334 02:10:58.680 --> 02:11:02.760 The sperm can't make it up the vaginal canal to 2335 02:11:03.760 --> 02:11:05.920 the ad because they're not strong enough. They don't have 2336 02:11:06.039 --> 02:11:11.880 enough motility. So are there misshapen So we really are damaging. 2337 02:11:12.039 --> 02:11:15.000 You know, this is a micro world, a nano world. 2338 02:11:15.000 --> 02:11:18.359 We're talking about within our bodies. Yes, but these are 2339 02:11:18.399 --> 02:11:20.520 just examples of the kinds of things we're fighting on 2340 02:11:20.560 --> 02:11:24.720 a daily basis. We want a big settlement there so 2341 02:11:24.840 --> 02:11:28.279 carbo will no longer be found in this company's olive 2342 02:11:28.319 --> 02:11:29.119 oil products. 2343 02:11:29.199 --> 02:11:29.720 That's great. 2344 02:11:29.800 --> 02:11:31.880 Yeah, you know, when we look at this, we see spermageddon. 2345 02:11:32.079 --> 02:11:34.399 People have talked about that. Look at the decline and 2346 02:11:34.720 --> 02:11:37.239 look at the decline and population. Of course there's a 2347 02:11:37.239 --> 02:11:40.720 lot of different they're sociological factors involved in it. But 2348 02:11:40.800 --> 02:11:43.319 a lot of this, I think is, as you point out, 2349 02:11:43.319 --> 02:11:45.199 a lot of it is the environment. A lot of 2350 02:11:45.199 --> 02:11:47.000 it is the products that we use. It can be 2351 02:11:47.039 --> 02:11:49.560 cleaning products, it can be cereal, it can be bubble bath, 2352 02:11:49.600 --> 02:11:52.399 it can be all these cosmetics that we use, and 2353 02:11:52.800 --> 02:11:55.520 we really don't understand that, and it is something that 2354 02:11:55.840 --> 02:11:58.319 is constantly changing and difficult to keep up with. 2355 02:11:59.199 --> 02:11:59.560 Well. 2356 02:12:00.239 --> 02:12:05.079 One thing though, for listeners, don't get don't get defeated. 2357 02:12:05.199 --> 02:12:07.640 Don't throw your hands up and say it's all poisoned. 2358 02:12:08.239 --> 02:12:11.520 The reason why I wrote Raising Healthy Kids is to 2359 02:12:11.560 --> 02:12:15.760 give you a black belt in protecting your children in 2360 02:12:15.800 --> 02:12:19.319 the chemical talks in jungle. Yes, reading the book will 2361 02:12:19.399 --> 02:12:22.960 really equip you. You'll read it once, you'll have all 2362 02:12:23.000 --> 02:12:25.239 the information and then you can go on with the 2363 02:12:25.279 --> 02:12:28.079 rest of your life. There's so many things that are 2364 02:12:28.119 --> 02:12:31.119 so important that you might not know about. One little 2365 02:12:31.159 --> 02:12:36.000 story in the book I'll just share. Family is in Portsmouth, 2366 02:12:36.000 --> 02:12:39.079 New Hampshire. They just started their family. They had two 2367 02:12:39.079 --> 02:12:42.439 young kids. They were sending off to preschool, David. What 2368 02:12:42.560 --> 02:12:46.159 they didn't do was check the drinking water. The tap 2369 02:12:46.199 --> 02:12:49.720 water at the preschool. That preschool was connected to a 2370 02:12:49.760 --> 02:12:53.640 well that was drawing from an Air Force base that 2371 02:12:53.680 --> 02:12:57.439 had been using all these forever chemicals. Wow, so their 2372 02:12:57.560 --> 02:13:03.319 children were their bloodstream was inundated with chemicals that cause cancer, kidney, 2373 02:13:03.319 --> 02:13:06.079 and liver disease. These kids were like four and five 2374 02:13:06.159 --> 02:13:10.279 years old. The only thing they didn't do was asked 2375 02:13:10.279 --> 02:13:12.319 the preschool, did you check your water? 2376 02:13:12.520 --> 02:13:13.359 Do you test it? 2377 02:13:13.960 --> 02:13:16.399 If they had just done that for two hundred dollars, 2378 02:13:18.520 --> 02:13:21.319 they would have avoided a huge Do you know the 2379 02:13:22.239 --> 02:13:27.039 recrimination the weak parents feel when our children suffer? 2380 02:13:27.520 --> 02:13:28.359 Yes, you know. 2381 02:13:29.159 --> 02:13:32.800 So there's so many things that people need to know, 2382 02:13:33.079 --> 02:13:35.600 big things that are simple, but if you don't know them, 2383 02:13:35.960 --> 02:13:38.279 it can change your life. That's what I'm trying to 2384 02:13:38.319 --> 02:13:41.119 do in raising healthy kids is give you those big 2385 02:13:41.479 --> 02:13:44.159 tips that will protect you in your family. 2386 02:13:44.600 --> 02:13:46.880 And even as you point out before you know you 2387 02:13:46.960 --> 02:13:51.079 talked about the products that one of them is bad 2388 02:13:51.079 --> 02:13:53.199 and the other one sold right next to it. 2389 02:13:53.399 --> 02:13:54.359 Yeah, the whole foods. 2390 02:13:54.520 --> 02:13:56.640 You know, if you got to eat this, don't eat 2391 02:13:56.640 --> 02:13:59.000 that type of thing. But also as you point out, 2392 02:13:59.039 --> 02:14:01.720 you know, to check the water. It's amazing how much 2393 02:14:01.760 --> 02:14:04.159 stuff finds its way into the water. It can be 2394 02:14:05.279 --> 02:14:07.760 something that's put there by the water system, or it 2395 02:14:07.800 --> 02:14:10.960 can be something that is a spill. I remember a 2396 02:14:11.199 --> 02:14:13.199 report that I talked to who was on the beat 2397 02:14:13.239 --> 02:14:17.960 out in California, and there was a situation in a 2398 02:14:18.000 --> 02:14:22.720 military base where they had disposed a lot of instruments 2399 02:14:22.720 --> 02:14:25.399 that had radium in it, and nobody knew that, and 2400 02:14:25.439 --> 02:14:28.000 it worked its way down into the water system. And 2401 02:14:28.039 --> 02:14:30.000 so even though people were on well water, people out 2402 02:14:30.000 --> 02:14:33.520 there in California were getting this radium high concentrations of 2403 02:14:33.600 --> 02:14:36.960 radium in their water. And it's like, what's people getting sick? 2404 02:14:37.000 --> 02:14:39.399 So and then they started investigating that. But yeah, that's 2405 02:14:39.439 --> 02:14:42.000 probably a good tip to constantly be checking your water 2406 02:14:42.039 --> 02:14:43.560 to see if there's something there. Even if you're not 2407 02:14:43.680 --> 02:14:47.159 on a city system or something like that, even if 2408 02:14:47.199 --> 02:14:48.960 you're pulling it out of the ground, there can still 2409 02:14:49.000 --> 02:14:51.199 be groundwater contamination that you don't know about. 2410 02:14:52.479 --> 02:14:53.159 Well that's true. 2411 02:14:53.199 --> 02:14:56.079 Now some people might think that, well, what good will 2412 02:14:56.279 --> 02:14:59.439 checking my water be if I can't afford to correct 2413 02:14:59.439 --> 02:15:03.279 the problem. But what I did in raising healthy kids 2414 02:15:04.039 --> 02:15:09.600 is we went down to Cancer Alley, Louisiana, and I 2415 02:15:09.680 --> 02:15:13.079 wanted to go there to write some of the book 2416 02:15:13.159 --> 02:15:16.279 Raising Healthy Kids, because I wanted to make sure that everyone, 2417 02:15:16.920 --> 02:15:19.880 no matter what their budget is, could do the things 2418 02:15:19.880 --> 02:15:23.279 that I'm talking about in raising Healthy Kids. So Cancer 2419 02:15:23.319 --> 02:15:26.479 Alley is a stretch of river Mississippi River between Baton 2420 02:15:26.560 --> 02:15:30.279 Rouge and New Orleans. It's about eighty five miles and 2421 02:15:30.319 --> 02:15:32.119 there are about one hundred and fifty to two hundred 2422 02:15:32.159 --> 02:15:35.439 chemical plants packed into these eighty five miles. You know, 2423 02:15:35.560 --> 02:15:37.800 you'll see all the ships coming up from the Gulf 2424 02:15:38.159 --> 02:15:41.359 with their oil and coal or coming down the river 2425 02:15:41.640 --> 02:15:45.000 with their coal and or to these plants. This is 2426 02:15:45.039 --> 02:15:49.159 where all the chemicals in our cosmetics, personal care products, 2427 02:15:49.760 --> 02:15:52.319 this is where they're all made. As Cancer Alley, where 2428 02:15:52.319 --> 02:15:56.119 all these plants are. The trouble is they're drinking water. 2429 02:15:56.199 --> 02:16:01.960 There is atrocious we measure in it thalates, which we 2430 02:16:02.039 --> 02:16:06.760 talked about, hexachlorocyclopentadine. I won't even go into what that is, 2431 02:16:06.800 --> 02:16:11.279 but lots of different chemicals. And some people there though 2432 02:16:11.359 --> 02:16:15.039 may make like fifteen seventeen thousand dollars a year, they 2433 02:16:15.039 --> 02:16:18.520 don't make a lot of money. So what I often 2434 02:16:18.560 --> 02:16:21.960 tell folks is if you're on a budget, don't worry 2435 02:16:22.000 --> 02:16:24.720 about testing your water at home. I'm talking about at 2436 02:16:24.720 --> 02:16:27.239 home now, if you're on a budget, I want you 2437 02:16:27.279 --> 02:16:28.960 to do these things. And this is what I share 2438 02:16:29.000 --> 02:16:32.479 in the book too. So this is a tip from 2439 02:16:34.200 --> 02:16:38.040 our chapter on drinking water. Get yourself a little faucet 2440 02:16:38.159 --> 02:16:40.879 filter that fits at the end of your faucet. They 2441 02:16:40.959 --> 02:16:44.559 cost about twenty five dollars, right, and they do a 2442 02:16:44.600 --> 02:16:48.000 pretty good job of filtering their water. But then I 2443 02:16:48.040 --> 02:16:51.319 want you to get a picture filter like Zero Water 2444 02:16:51.440 --> 02:16:54.879 or Brita. In our home, we use zero Water. Why 2445 02:16:54.920 --> 02:16:59.079 because it filters out those forever chemicals. So you put 2446 02:16:59.159 --> 02:17:02.000 the water from the faucet and then you put it 2447 02:17:02.040 --> 02:17:06.159 into your pitcher, so you've double filtered your water. That 2448 02:17:06.200 --> 02:17:10.639 picture will cost about thirty dollars. So for about fifty dollars, David, 2449 02:17:11.280 --> 02:17:14.920 you have filtered your water and reduced probably eighty five 2450 02:17:14.959 --> 02:17:19.680 to ninety percent of the contamination. Now, a really, a 2451 02:17:19.760 --> 02:17:22.600 really you know triple A system can run three hundred, 2452 02:17:22.799 --> 02:17:26.399 four hundred dollars or more. But not everyone has an 2453 02:17:26.440 --> 02:17:29.319 available three or four hundred dollars at one time. But 2454 02:17:29.520 --> 02:17:34.200 most people can afford a twenty five dollars thirty dollars purchase, right, 2455 02:17:34.319 --> 02:17:36.959 So that's why I'm saying. Now, if you were mentioning 2456 02:17:37.000 --> 02:17:40.600 all these chemicals and your home, well, when you shower, 2457 02:17:40.760 --> 02:17:43.760 you know, and the water gets hot, then these chemicals 2458 02:17:43.760 --> 02:17:47.200 become volatile and you breathe them. So I want you 2459 02:17:47.239 --> 02:17:50.040 to take another twenty dollars and buy yourself a shower 2460 02:17:50.079 --> 02:17:54.600 filter with activated carbon. Yes, now, for about seventy five dollars, 2461 02:17:54.600 --> 02:17:55.719 you've done most. 2462 02:17:55.479 --> 02:17:56.040 Of your home. 2463 02:17:56.920 --> 02:17:59.959 But what if you garden. Now, I want you to 2464 02:18:00.040 --> 02:18:03.079 get a little filter for your hose so you can 2465 02:18:03.120 --> 02:18:05.680 get them out of your garden too, for another twenty 2466 02:18:05.760 --> 02:18:08.840 or twenty five dollars. So for about one hundred dollars, 2467 02:18:08.879 --> 02:18:12.000 no matter where you live, whether it's Cancer Alley or 2468 02:18:12.040 --> 02:18:17.479 the Hamptons, you can protect yourself. And you need to 2469 02:18:17.520 --> 02:18:21.920 do this because you know, the chemical toxins we're talking 2470 02:18:21.959 --> 02:18:27.079 about tend to attack people of color more, but they 2471 02:18:27.079 --> 02:18:31.120 do attack everyone, so everyone should be aware of this. 2472 02:18:31.479 --> 02:18:33.600 The point is that all of us can do this. 2473 02:18:34.159 --> 02:18:37.200 Don't let your budget be don't say I can't afford it. 2474 02:18:37.239 --> 02:18:42.159 I bust so many myths in raising healthy kids. People 2475 02:18:42.159 --> 02:18:45.479 will say for example, I can't afford organic foods because 2476 02:18:45.479 --> 02:18:49.760 they're too expensive. Not true anymore. All the staples, David, 2477 02:18:49.799 --> 02:18:54.040 all the staples, let us cellery, apples, they're all about 2478 02:18:54.079 --> 02:18:58.520 the same price as conventionally growing now. And that's because 2479 02:18:59.239 --> 02:19:01.600 so many oppers for the last twenty years have been 2480 02:19:01.639 --> 02:19:06.360 waking up to wanting food without chemicals like pesticides or 2481 02:19:06.399 --> 02:19:09.879 fungus sides. So they've grown this market again, it's the 2482 02:19:09.920 --> 02:19:14.440 free market. As the demand has grown, prices have gone down. 2483 02:19:15.959 --> 02:19:18.760 So this summer, for example, or last summer, you know, 2484 02:19:18.840 --> 02:19:22.399 I could find organic produce just by shopping online that 2485 02:19:22.559 --> 02:19:27.159 was cheaper than conventionally sourced produce. That's because we the shoppers, 2486 02:19:27.239 --> 02:19:29.840 are waking up and making a difference. 2487 02:19:30.559 --> 02:19:31.120 That's great. 2488 02:19:31.360 --> 02:19:33.600 Yeah, tell us a little bit about that too, because 2489 02:19:33.639 --> 02:19:35.440 you know, and I like what you had to say 2490 02:19:35.559 --> 02:19:37.840 about the water, and everybody should start with the water, 2491 02:19:37.840 --> 02:19:40.760 because you consume so much of that. And even if 2492 02:19:40.799 --> 02:19:42.879 you can't get one of these very expensive several hundred 2493 02:19:42.879 --> 02:19:44.920 dollars filters, it's going to take out nine nine point 2494 02:19:45.000 --> 02:19:47.639 nine percent of so many things. If you can get 2495 02:19:47.719 --> 02:19:50.520 ninety percent of it out that that is a huge difference. 2496 02:19:50.600 --> 02:19:52.440 It's going to make in your life, but talk a 2497 02:19:52.479 --> 02:19:56.319 little bit about the labels in terms of, you know, 2498 02:19:56.399 --> 02:19:59.879 something is organic something versus something that is non GMO 2499 02:20:00.120 --> 02:20:01.479 and some of these other things. I think people get 2500 02:20:01.479 --> 02:20:03.319 confused about that. I'm sure you cover that in your book. 2501 02:20:03.680 --> 02:20:06.440 By the way, the book is Raising Healthy Kids, Protecting 2502 02:20:06.440 --> 02:20:10.239 your Children from Hidden chemical toxins. Educates a little bit 2503 02:20:10.280 --> 02:20:12.120 about some of these labels that we'll see out there 2504 02:20:12.239 --> 02:20:14.559 and oh, sure, depend on sure. 2505 02:20:15.680 --> 02:20:19.959 Well. One of the things I do talk about with 2506 02:20:20.000 --> 02:20:22.879 regard to food is I do think organic food is 2507 02:20:22.920 --> 02:20:27.040 a better choice than conventionally sourced food. I'm not saying 2508 02:20:27.079 --> 02:20:31.959 that organically grown foods are perfect, but in writing Raising 2509 02:20:32.000 --> 02:20:36.520 Healthy Kids, I reviewed thousands and thousands of tests that 2510 02:20:36.559 --> 02:20:39.959 were done on foods organic and non organic, and the 2511 02:20:40.479 --> 02:20:43.120 non organic food was really infiltrated with a lot of 2512 02:20:43.200 --> 02:20:47.399 chemical pesticides that you're obviously not told about on the labeling, 2513 02:20:47.840 --> 02:20:52.200 whereas the organic foods rarely ever had any detectable pesticides. 2514 02:20:52.680 --> 02:20:56.639 So the difference is enormous. And the reason why this 2515 02:20:56.799 --> 02:21:00.920 is really important again, you know, we were talking about 2516 02:21:00.959 --> 02:21:06.920 cosmetics shaving IQ points researchers at Columbia in the Northeast 2517 02:21:06.920 --> 02:21:11.120 in New York City and UC Davis in California found 2518 02:21:11.159 --> 02:21:14.000 them when kids were exposed to the chemicals in our foods, 2519 02:21:14.079 --> 02:21:19.319 like the pesticides, they also lost five to seven IQ points. Now, 2520 02:21:19.879 --> 02:21:23.079 the researchers in California found this among children who were 2521 02:21:23.079 --> 02:21:26.399 exposed to pesticides because so many of their parents were 2522 02:21:26.440 --> 02:21:31.200 farm workers. But in New York City, the kids parents 2523 02:21:31.239 --> 02:21:35.879 weren't exposed to pesticides because they were farm workers. The 2524 02:21:36.000 --> 02:21:38.920 kids were being exposed to these chemicals because they were 2525 02:21:38.920 --> 02:21:41.920 eating the foods, and they were also losing five to 2526 02:21:41.959 --> 02:21:47.399 seven IQ points. So organic is the real thing, and 2527 02:21:47.440 --> 02:21:50.719 there are a lot of health benefits that come from 2528 02:21:50.799 --> 02:21:56.319 organic foods. I know it's really fashionable to bash people 2529 02:21:56.399 --> 02:21:58.559 like me who say, well organic, they're great food. 2530 02:21:58.639 --> 02:22:00.479 You want to call me a hippie or don't know what, 2531 02:22:01.319 --> 02:22:03.600 but oh listen. 2532 02:22:05.000 --> 02:22:08.760 The published peer reviewed studies show that when your child 2533 02:22:09.000 --> 02:22:13.600 is on an organic diet, they have less obesity, less diabetes, 2534 02:22:14.239 --> 02:22:19.600 fewer skin and other kinds of allergies, lower risk of cancer. Mom, 2535 02:22:19.840 --> 02:22:23.680 when she's pregnant and on organic foods, has fewer complications 2536 02:22:23.760 --> 02:22:29.920 during her pregnancy too, and dad dad will have more 2537 02:22:29.959 --> 02:22:34.840 of those little baby sperms, his fertility will increase. So 2538 02:22:35.000 --> 02:22:39.360 organic is the real thing. Now you can buy non gmo. 2539 02:22:39.520 --> 02:22:43.000 That means the foods were not genetically modified. And this 2540 02:22:43.120 --> 02:22:46.280 is important too, because one of the reasons why foods 2541 02:22:46.280 --> 02:22:49.840 are being props are being genetically modified is that so 2542 02:22:49.959 --> 02:22:53.479 farmers can apply more herbicide to them. You know, there's 2543 02:22:53.520 --> 02:22:56.360 a reason why lifeless said a round up is showing 2544 02:22:56.879 --> 02:23:00.680 up in so many foods in America today. Lifeless say 2545 02:23:01.159 --> 02:23:04.719 is thought to cause cancer among other problems. Yes, but 2546 02:23:04.879 --> 02:23:07.559 the reason why it's showing up is so many crops 2547 02:23:07.559 --> 02:23:11.440 are being genetically modified to withstand heavy doses of round up, 2548 02:23:12.239 --> 02:23:16.000 so they can so the So there's herbicide companies can 2549 02:23:16.000 --> 02:23:19.840 sell more round up, and the seed companies have modified 2550 02:23:19.920 --> 02:23:22.920 their crops so they can take that more round up 2551 02:23:22.959 --> 02:23:25.879 because they're the same company. The seed companies in the 2552 02:23:25.959 --> 02:23:29.079 erboside companies are one and the same. So you know, 2553 02:23:29.479 --> 02:23:32.079 you really do want to get non gmo, but non 2554 02:23:32.159 --> 02:23:34.920 gmo may still have other pesticides applied to it. 2555 02:23:35.040 --> 02:23:35.360 That's right. 2556 02:23:35.639 --> 02:23:37.040 I want to give you an example, so you can 2557 02:23:37.120 --> 02:23:39.079 have something as non gmo as you said, they might 2558 02:23:39.079 --> 02:23:40.920 be putting that on there because they might want to 2559 02:23:40.959 --> 02:23:43.520 really loaded up with pesticides. But something that is non 2560 02:23:43.559 --> 02:23:46.879 GMO can still have pesticides, right. 2561 02:23:46.799 --> 02:23:50.200 Oh yeah, yeah, And so example, yeah, every loaf of 2562 02:23:50.200 --> 02:23:54.079 bread we've ever tested that the Healthy Living Foundation has 2563 02:23:54.200 --> 02:23:58.760 an organophosphate pesticide in it. These organo phosphate pesticides are 2564 02:23:58.799 --> 02:24:03.959 nerve toxins. They damage the synapses between your nerves and 2565 02:24:05.360 --> 02:24:08.680 inhibit an enzyme that breaks down the settle coaline. So 2566 02:24:08.799 --> 02:24:13.079 at high doses that you would go into spasms and wow, 2567 02:24:13.760 --> 02:24:15.959 be unable to function. But at low doses, these are 2568 02:24:16.000 --> 02:24:19.520 what are causing ADHD in our kids. Yes, and so 2569 02:24:20.120 --> 02:24:22.760 every local bread it may say non GMO, but it's 2570 02:24:22.760 --> 02:24:26.200 still going to be sprayed with herbicides or pesticides. So 2571 02:24:26.920 --> 02:24:30.760 organic is superior to non g M O. Organic will 2572 02:24:30.760 --> 02:24:35.479 still be non GMO, but it also precludes uh, most 2573 02:24:35.520 --> 02:24:38.079 of the pestal all all synthetic pesticides. 2574 02:24:38.239 --> 02:24:40.159 And that's that, and that's the key thing that the 2575 02:24:40.440 --> 02:24:44.280 that the organic is also non GMO. 2576 02:24:44.719 --> 02:24:48.799 Right, organic is also non GMO, but it's also precludes 2577 02:24:48.840 --> 02:24:51.319 so many pesticides that would be used, So it's a 2578 02:24:51.319 --> 02:24:52.680 better it's a better label. 2579 02:24:52.879 --> 02:24:57.680 It checks checks both of those boxes both pesticides and yeah, exactly, 2580 02:24:58.000 --> 02:24:58.440 that's good. 2581 02:24:58.520 --> 02:24:58.879 That's good. 2582 02:24:58.920 --> 02:25:01.920 That's important because it gets confusing. What about do you 2583 02:25:01.920 --> 02:25:04.239 talk anything about eggs. I know this isn't really a 2584 02:25:04.280 --> 02:25:06.280 chemical thing, but it gets so confusing when you go 2585 02:25:06.319 --> 02:25:08.440 that it's like this is free range and this is 2586 02:25:09.079 --> 02:25:11.280 you know, all these different labels that they got for 2587 02:25:11.360 --> 02:25:13.360 the eggs. Stuff is very confusing. It's like I don't 2588 02:25:13.399 --> 02:25:16.600 even know what the differences of these with these different 2589 02:25:17.159 --> 02:25:18.799 labels that they got for the eggs. 2590 02:25:19.399 --> 02:25:21.680 That's a great question too, that now we're talking about 2591 02:25:21.719 --> 02:25:26.479 animals and for example, free range, pasture raised and grassped 2592 02:25:26.520 --> 02:25:32.520 for beef for example, is another one. So being a 2593 02:25:32.559 --> 02:25:36.360 bleeding heart for animal well liberal for animal welfare and 2594 02:25:36.440 --> 02:25:40.440 human welfare as well, but both of us. I do 2595 02:25:40.600 --> 02:25:44.120 try to buy products, but I've looked them up, and 2596 02:25:44.959 --> 02:25:49.639 these labels can be misleading because if they say free range, 2597 02:25:50.040 --> 02:25:52.920 it could mean like maybe an hour or two a 2598 02:25:53.000 --> 02:25:58.520 day that they're let out of their coup So there 2599 02:25:58.559 --> 02:26:02.520 are again I buy organic, and I do look for 2600 02:26:04.000 --> 02:26:10.799 uncaged poultry eggs and that it will say it on 2601 02:26:10.879 --> 02:26:14.280 the label. Also, you should get to know the company 2602 02:26:14.280 --> 02:26:17.000 you're buying your eggs. From because as I said, they 2603 02:26:17.040 --> 02:26:19.639 can claim to be free range but not let their 2604 02:26:20.159 --> 02:26:25.680 birds out very much because again, unless it's at most 2605 02:26:25.680 --> 02:26:28.879 of them are certified. If they're certified, the animals will 2606 02:26:28.920 --> 02:26:35.079 be treated much better. Also with beef, we also have 2607 02:26:35.239 --> 02:26:41.000 now organic versus grass fed beef, and I'm okay with 2608 02:26:41.120 --> 02:26:44.840 grass fed beef. Now, the big thing with beef is 2609 02:26:44.879 --> 02:26:49.959 that cattle and America are treated with hormones, both estrogen 2610 02:26:50.000 --> 02:26:56.639 and progesterone and testosterone, and these levels can be measured 2611 02:26:56.680 --> 02:27:00.159 in your beef. So there have been articles recently about 2612 02:27:00.040 --> 02:27:03.479 our daughters reaching menarchy or puberty. 2613 02:27:03.079 --> 02:27:04.239 Earlier and earlier. 2614 02:27:04.440 --> 02:27:08.639 Yes, and the reason why this is happening in Western 2615 02:27:08.680 --> 02:27:12.959 society again, I'll come back to the sex hormones that 2616 02:27:13.040 --> 02:27:18.040 we're inundating our kids with. If your daughter is eating 2617 02:27:18.079 --> 02:27:22.600 a lot of beef and it's not grass fed or organic, 2618 02:27:23.319 --> 02:27:26.879 she's getting a lot of extra hormones. And these things 2619 02:27:26.959 --> 02:27:31.799 will cause earlier menarchy in our daughters, and that's not 2620 02:27:32.000 --> 02:27:32.719 a good thing. 2621 02:27:33.600 --> 02:27:33.799 One. 2622 02:27:35.440 --> 02:27:39.239 It increases their risk for breast cancer and other reproductive cancers. 2623 02:27:39.760 --> 02:27:45.319 The longer that reproductive window is open for women, the 2624 02:27:45.360 --> 02:27:49.399 greater the chances for cancer later in life. So we 2625 02:27:49.559 --> 02:27:53.239 really want to be careful about that. Now with beef, 2626 02:27:54.120 --> 02:27:57.639 I mentioned I'm okay with grass fed, and I've studied this, 2627 02:27:58.319 --> 02:28:02.959 and that's because fed beef also tends to be It 2628 02:28:03.200 --> 02:28:07.079 may not be labeled organic, but if you get beef 2629 02:28:07.120 --> 02:28:11.920 that's been grass fed from beginning to end, it's still 2630 02:28:11.959 --> 02:28:15.959 going to it's not going to have hormones, and it's 2631 02:28:16.000 --> 02:28:19.120 going to be very low in any kind of pesticides 2632 02:28:19.159 --> 02:28:23.120 that would have accumulated in the grains that are being fed, 2633 02:28:23.760 --> 02:28:27.600 for example, corn fed beef. So grass fed and organic 2634 02:28:27.639 --> 02:28:30.520 are your best choices for beef, and there's a big 2635 02:28:30.559 --> 02:28:35.360 reason for that. Another good reason is ranchers who sell 2636 02:28:35.440 --> 02:28:41.200 grass fed beef, pork, and so on tend to think 2637 02:28:41.239 --> 02:28:45.360 of themselves really as grass managers. What they say is 2638 02:28:45.440 --> 02:28:48.319 give me a little rain, give me a little grass, 2639 02:28:48.959 --> 02:28:51.159 and I can give you your beef for your pork. 2640 02:28:51.920 --> 02:28:57.559 So they're very conservation oriented. And I interviewed for Raising 2641 02:28:57.600 --> 02:29:02.959 Healthy Kids mel Coleman, who's ranches up in Colorado, and 2642 02:29:03.120 --> 02:29:07.399 he just talked about one hundred years of regenerative ranching. 2643 02:29:08.120 --> 02:29:13.079 They've really remade so much of that area into grasslands, 2644 02:29:13.719 --> 02:29:18.479 healthy grasslands because they move their herds. In this case 2645 02:29:18.520 --> 02:29:20.760 it's a couple. It was a couple thousand gallo at 2646 02:29:20.760 --> 02:29:24.879 one time, but they moved them in ways that the 2647 02:29:24.920 --> 02:29:29.600 grass would regenerate and they were not fed corn and grains. 2648 02:29:30.440 --> 02:29:33.079 You want to avoid corn fed or brain fed beef 2649 02:29:33.440 --> 02:29:36.280 though that's the beef that will have the hormones added 2650 02:29:36.319 --> 02:29:38.879 to it. You want grass fed or organic when it 2651 02:29:38.920 --> 02:29:44.639 comes to beef, pork, and your other meats. 2652 02:29:45.120 --> 02:29:45.799 That's interesting. 2653 02:29:46.120 --> 02:29:48.040 And of course let me ask you this because we've 2654 02:29:48.079 --> 02:29:49.840 just had some of these cases come up. 2655 02:29:49.879 --> 02:29:52.799 With the Amish farmer Amos Miller, who. 2656 02:29:52.719 --> 02:29:57.280 Was you had a situation where everybody's buying shares of 2657 02:29:57.319 --> 02:30:01.120 his beef and he was raising them grass fed, and 2658 02:30:01.159 --> 02:30:05.920 then when COVID came and it was difficult to get 2659 02:30:06.120 --> 02:30:08.280 things to the market and have him slaughtered, he decided 2660 02:30:08.280 --> 02:30:10.399 that he would do the slaughtering there. And it was 2661 02:30:10.479 --> 02:30:13.159 kind of a club situation, and so he did that. 2662 02:30:13.200 --> 02:30:15.559 The USDA came in and shut him down, saying that 2663 02:30:15.600 --> 02:30:19.760 you've got to have all of the cattle slaughtered at 2664 02:30:19.799 --> 02:30:23.559 an official USDA site. Now when when they're taken there, 2665 02:30:24.200 --> 02:30:26.360 they put them on grains there at the feed lots, right, 2666 02:30:26.399 --> 02:30:28.479 But it's not enough that it's going to really make 2667 02:30:28.520 --> 02:30:30.639 that big of a change. Is that is that the 2668 02:30:30.639 --> 02:30:32.120 way we would look at it or what? What do 2669 02:30:32.159 --> 02:30:32.840 you think about that. 2670 02:30:35.239 --> 02:30:37.920 There are not every feed lot, no grass fed beef 2671 02:30:37.920 --> 02:30:41.440 would not be fed you want to be sure, but 2672 02:30:41.799 --> 02:30:44.840 most grass fed beef is not being finished with grains. 2673 02:30:44.920 --> 02:30:45.399 Oh it's not. 2674 02:30:45.440 --> 02:30:49.440 Okay, they're not being finished with grains. So, but you're 2675 02:30:49.520 --> 02:30:56.239 right about the slaughterhouses, and that's the USDA is really 2676 02:30:56.280 --> 02:31:01.280 really strict. And you know, even the label for their 2677 02:31:01.479 --> 02:31:06.000 natural USDA water down. That's why you know you're asking 2678 02:31:06.040 --> 02:31:10.319 about labels. You know you'll also see natural naturally raised 2679 02:31:10.399 --> 02:31:15.559 on your beef products. That doesn't mean anything, So you 2680 02:31:15.680 --> 02:31:21.719 want grass fed. What naturally raised means is just they 2681 02:31:21.760 --> 02:31:25.000 will still be given hormones or antibiotics. In the case 2682 02:31:25.000 --> 02:31:29.680 of poultry, naturally raised does not mean that they weren't 2683 02:31:29.680 --> 02:31:31.200 given hormones. 2684 02:31:32.280 --> 02:31:33.239 Or antibiotics. 2685 02:31:33.239 --> 02:31:37.600 So naturally raised is not enough protection you want grass 2686 02:31:37.600 --> 02:31:41.680 fed or organic beer beef products. 2687 02:31:42.319 --> 02:31:44.559 Let me ask you just mentioned poultry. I talked to 2688 02:31:44.920 --> 02:31:49.239 Tennessee State Senator here and common Tennessee Senator in nicely, 2689 02:31:49.639 --> 02:31:52.440 and he was talking about how they finish off in 2690 02:31:52.440 --> 02:31:56.440 many cases, chicken with arsenic make them gain weight very rapidly. 2691 02:31:57.280 --> 02:31:58.639 Do it at the end of it. And so you know, 2692 02:31:58.680 --> 02:32:01.639 you get this blowa out. You know, the chickens, it's 2693 02:32:01.680 --> 02:32:03.840 not enough to kill them before they slaughter them. 2694 02:32:04.559 --> 02:32:06.559 But what do you want know? 2695 02:32:06.600 --> 02:32:08.840 And he said, I've tried to get this stuff out, 2696 02:32:08.920 --> 02:32:11.760 but there's a lot of a lot of interest the 2697 02:32:12.040 --> 02:32:14.760 big business of the of the chicken thing they really 2698 02:32:14.879 --> 02:32:19.079 fight stopping this arsenic. Is that something that you've seen 2699 02:32:19.200 --> 02:32:21.760 or know about the arsenic and chickens at the. 2700 02:32:21.760 --> 02:32:26.680 End, Well, that that is a new one, the arsenic. 2701 02:32:26.719 --> 02:32:29.319 I don't know about arsenic. Yeah, but I do know. 2702 02:32:30.280 --> 02:32:33.719 I do know that generally speaking, people will ask me 2703 02:32:33.760 --> 02:32:35.680 what about when I'm dining out? What do I do 2704 02:32:35.760 --> 02:32:37.719 then if I don't if I'm not quite sure about 2705 02:32:37.719 --> 02:32:41.680 the source of the meat, generally speaking, And when I 2706 02:32:41.719 --> 02:32:45.239 write wrote raising Healthy Kids, what I'm trying to do 2707 02:32:45.319 --> 02:32:48.479 is get you the biggest reductions possible, you know, for 2708 02:32:48.520 --> 02:32:50.079 the least effort or the least cost. 2709 02:32:50.239 --> 02:32:51.639 Yeah, like we're talking about the water. 2710 02:32:51.719 --> 02:32:53.479 You know, if you can get rid of ninety percent 2711 02:32:53.479 --> 02:32:54.760 of it, that's a huge improvement. 2712 02:32:54.879 --> 02:32:58.399 Oh yeah, I mean it's you know, but with when 2713 02:32:58.399 --> 02:33:02.559 you're dining now and you're looking at at meats, poultry 2714 02:33:02.600 --> 02:33:06.440 is a much safer choice than beef. And the way 2715 02:33:06.479 --> 02:33:10.719 to make your poultry safest or your beef safest is 2716 02:33:10.760 --> 02:33:13.360 to cut out the fatty portions if you can resist 2717 02:33:14.200 --> 02:33:17.000 not eating some of the fat. For example, some of 2718 02:33:17.040 --> 02:33:20.280 the most harmful chemicals that we know today, like DDT 2719 02:33:21.079 --> 02:33:25.879 and hepticlor accumulate in the fatty portions of animals and humans. 2720 02:33:26.559 --> 02:33:29.399 So if you have a nice cut of beef with 2721 02:33:29.440 --> 02:33:31.440 a lot of fat on it, it will tend to 2722 02:33:31.479 --> 02:33:35.479 have more pesticide in it if you are serving. If 2723 02:33:35.520 --> 02:33:38.319 you're buying poultry, for example, and you have fried chicken, 2724 02:33:39.120 --> 02:33:41.799 you know the skin is the fattiest portion. Plus that 2725 02:33:41.879 --> 02:33:46.159 breaded portion will have all those organic phosphate pesticides, So 2726 02:33:46.239 --> 02:33:48.799 you might be better off with a grilled a piece 2727 02:33:48.840 --> 02:33:53.040 of with grilled chicken, for example. But when you're dining out, 2728 02:33:53.159 --> 02:33:57.440 poultry is always safer than beef. Turkey is always safer 2729 02:33:57.479 --> 02:34:00.719 than chicken. And it's just the way of the studies 2730 02:34:00.799 --> 02:34:06.120 come out. So that's another tip that I bring up 2731 02:34:06.159 --> 02:34:08.280 in raising healthy kids is when you're diving out, what 2732 02:34:08.440 --> 02:34:08.920 you look. 2733 02:34:08.840 --> 02:34:09.920 For that's great. 2734 02:34:10.200 --> 02:34:12.360 That's great, And that's the key thing, is just being 2735 02:34:12.399 --> 02:34:14.959 wise and trying to minimize because there isn't a one 2736 02:34:15.040 --> 02:34:18.440 hundred percent solution for anything in the real world. You're 2737 02:34:18.520 --> 02:34:22.159 just trying to to minimize the harmful stuff and maximize 2738 02:34:21.840 --> 02:34:25.879 the beneficial stuff. And that's the real wisdom of the book. 2739 02:34:25.920 --> 02:34:28.360 I think, well, is there a category here that we 2740 02:34:28.360 --> 02:34:30.799 haven't talked to me? We've talked about pesticized, we talked 2741 02:34:30.799 --> 02:34:34.440 about cosmetics, we've talked about we talked about visually. We 2742 02:34:34.440 --> 02:34:36.559 haven't talked about cereals and stuff. I guess you know, 2743 02:34:36.600 --> 02:34:38.159 when you look at the cereal and it's all these 2744 02:34:38.159 --> 02:34:40.920 bright florescent colors, you might think that something's wrong. But 2745 02:34:40.959 --> 02:34:43.719 there's probably a lot of things that put themselves out 2746 02:34:43.760 --> 02:34:47.639 there as a healthy cereal that probably have the same 2747 02:34:47.639 --> 02:34:50.280 problems as that bright fluorescent colored stuff too. 2748 02:34:50.319 --> 02:34:53.040 Maybe huh, oh, my god, you mean those fruit hoops. 2749 02:34:53.200 --> 02:34:54.280 You mean those fruit hoops? 2750 02:34:54.280 --> 02:34:55.079 Weren't that healthy? 2751 02:34:55.680 --> 02:34:56.120 I thought? 2752 02:34:56.399 --> 02:34:56.719 Oops? 2753 02:34:57.319 --> 02:34:59.920 I thought fruit hoops were part of a wooding breakfast. 2754 02:35:01.360 --> 02:35:04.000 Oh, no, tell me things. 2755 02:35:04.040 --> 02:35:07.559 So they really advertise that stuff heavily to the kids, 2756 02:35:07.600 --> 02:35:10.079 don't they. So what is apparently if they want to 2757 02:35:10.079 --> 02:35:11.879 get some cereals. So what's the best bet on that, Seriah? 2758 02:35:11.959 --> 02:35:18.159 Yeah, again, the grains are heavily sprayed with organic phosphate pesticides. 2759 02:35:18.920 --> 02:35:20.120 So your number one. 2760 02:35:21.559 --> 02:35:24.680 Decision maker for cereals, mom and dad is get it organic. 2761 02:35:25.399 --> 02:35:28.639 Don't think they will be more expensive, and don't let 2762 02:35:28.719 --> 02:35:32.120 anyone tell you that you're being silly or dumb for 2763 02:35:32.600 --> 02:35:35.680 buying organic foods. I know there's a lot of organic 2764 02:35:35.719 --> 02:35:39.559 food bashing going on, but it makes a huge difference 2765 02:35:39.719 --> 02:35:42.600 in your kid's life. I'm really coming to you with 2766 02:35:42.719 --> 02:35:47.200 straight facts. When you're buying cereal, you want organic, you know. 2767 02:35:47.360 --> 02:35:50.360 I talk to so many parents who find that when 2768 02:35:50.360 --> 02:35:53.000 they stop serving their kids all these food dies, Like 2769 02:35:53.040 --> 02:35:56.000 we're talking about fruit loops right, and you know, cereals 2770 02:35:56.000 --> 02:35:59.280 can be so brightly colored with often they were and 2771 02:35:59.319 --> 02:36:02.399 still continue to be with food dyes. These food dies 2772 02:36:02.479 --> 02:36:08.000 are another cause of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. Wow, and 2773 02:36:08.079 --> 02:36:12.000 mom and dad will find that when they remove food 2774 02:36:12.000 --> 02:36:14.360 dice from their kids diet as well as the organical 2775 02:36:14.360 --> 02:36:19.280 phosphate pesticides in their grains, their kids' behavior will improve 2776 02:36:19.319 --> 02:36:22.639 and it comes pretty fast. So organic is the big 2777 02:36:22.719 --> 02:36:27.120 key for buying the cereals. As well, and it will 2778 02:36:27.159 --> 02:36:30.360 go a long way towards giving your child a better breakfast, 2779 02:36:30.680 --> 02:36:32.639 stay away from all those food dies that are in 2780 02:36:32.719 --> 02:36:33.360 the cereals. 2781 02:36:33.399 --> 02:36:35.719 Oh yeah, and that's a key thing when you mentioned 2782 02:36:35.760 --> 02:36:40.040 the fact that as the marketplace says we want more organic, 2783 02:36:40.840 --> 02:36:43.319 then that starts to build a critical mass, and it 2784 02:36:43.360 --> 02:36:45.200 starts to get cheaper. As you point out, it's not 2785 02:36:45.479 --> 02:36:47.479 a premium product anymore. You can get it at the 2786 02:36:47.520 --> 02:36:49.959 same price, or as you said, some places, you can 2787 02:36:50.000 --> 02:36:53.520 find it less the non organic stuff, so it's no 2788 02:36:53.600 --> 02:36:57.360 longer something is available only to people who have more 2789 02:36:57.440 --> 02:36:59.319 money to spend on the food. You could certainly make 2790 02:36:59.319 --> 02:37:02.079 the argument that you're going to save, as you did 2791 02:37:02.079 --> 02:37:07.239 with the water testing, money spent upfront on making sure 2792 02:37:07.280 --> 02:37:09.760 that your food is clean, your water as clean is 2793 02:37:09.840 --> 02:37:13.399 going to be a real economic decision rather than having 2794 02:37:13.479 --> 02:37:17.280 to treat the results of eating food that is loaded 2795 02:37:17.319 --> 02:37:19.879 with all these other things. I mean, you know, let 2796 02:37:19.879 --> 02:37:23.959 the food be your medicine upfront and not create these situations. 2797 02:37:24.000 --> 02:37:25.719 That's the really wise thing I think. 2798 02:37:26.840 --> 02:37:30.040 Yeah, I think that you know, the one hundred dollars 2799 02:37:30.040 --> 02:37:31.959 for example, we talked about you may spend to filter 2800 02:37:32.040 --> 02:37:34.760 your water if you're on a budget, it's going to 2801 02:37:34.799 --> 02:37:38.399 be so much more valuable than the health insurance you 2802 02:37:38.479 --> 02:37:42.479 cant you know, filtering your water is can prevent illness. 2803 02:37:42.680 --> 02:37:45.200 Health insurance is going to pay for some of your illness. 2804 02:37:45.399 --> 02:37:46.120 Yeah, that's right. 2805 02:37:46.200 --> 02:37:49.079 So you know, and these you know, David, these changes 2806 02:37:49.159 --> 02:37:53.120 come when you start on a really wholesome diet, like 2807 02:37:53.159 --> 02:37:57.079 I'm prescribing and raising healthy kids, you feel better, and 2808 02:37:57.120 --> 02:38:01.879 these changes come almost immediately. Our bodies are extremely sensitive 2809 02:38:02.520 --> 02:38:06.280 to our environment, our internal environment and our external environment. 2810 02:38:07.079 --> 02:38:09.000 And mom and dad, as you put your kids on 2811 02:38:09.040 --> 02:38:13.959 a healthier diet, their behaviors will improve, Your health will improve. 2812 02:38:14.520 --> 02:38:18.239 It really works. Plus the big thing is, you know 2813 02:38:18.280 --> 02:38:22.520 we're talking about organic foods. How shoppers have created that market. 2814 02:38:22.920 --> 02:38:25.639 You know, in my reporting in California, I used to 2815 02:38:25.680 --> 02:38:29.799 go to a town in California called Salinas, and Selenas 2816 02:38:29.920 --> 02:38:33.680 is called the salad bowl of America because about seventy 2817 02:38:33.719 --> 02:38:37.360 percent of all lettuce is grown in this area of California. 2818 02:38:37.879 --> 02:38:41.239 The town and all the schools are carved right out 2819 02:38:41.239 --> 02:38:44.200 of the farm fields. You'll see see thousands of acres 2820 02:38:44.239 --> 02:38:46.840 of farmfield and then a little school in the middle. There. 2821 02:38:47.360 --> 02:38:49.360 I used to go to these schools and they were 2822 02:38:49.360 --> 02:38:52.159 surrounded by fields being sprayed with pesticides. 2823 02:38:52.559 --> 02:38:54.319 Wow, And the kids. 2824 02:38:54.040 --> 02:38:57.360 Were playing in the yard, there's a chain link fence, 2825 02:38:57.680 --> 02:38:59.239 and on the other side of the yard, and the 2826 02:38:59.319 --> 02:39:02.639 chain link fence is the farm field and there's no buffer, 2827 02:39:03.280 --> 02:39:08.000 and they're all being sprayed. I returned to Selena's to 2828 02:39:08.079 --> 02:39:11.360 write Raising Healthy Kids during the pandemic and went to 2829 02:39:11.399 --> 02:39:15.879 these same schools. They were all surrounded by organic strawberry 2830 02:39:15.920 --> 02:39:17.200 and lettuce fields. 2831 02:39:17.959 --> 02:39:18.920 So I caught up. 2832 02:39:19.280 --> 02:39:21.280 One of the teachers. I said, what's going on here? 2833 02:39:21.360 --> 02:39:24.479 He said, well, David, it's because of shoppers like you 2834 02:39:25.159 --> 02:39:28.239 that have motivated all the farmers here to go organic. 2835 02:39:28.600 --> 02:39:31.600 So they're planting organic strawberry and lettuce fields all around 2836 02:39:31.639 --> 02:39:34.719 the schools now to grow these crops that you're buying. 2837 02:39:35.520 --> 02:39:38.319 And I was really David, I was really overjoyed. I 2838 02:39:38.360 --> 02:39:41.959 was kind of crying with joy because listen for years 2839 02:39:42.399 --> 02:39:44.680 in the early two thousands, when there was barely an 2840 02:39:44.799 --> 02:39:47.879 organic market, I would listen to all these people saying, 2841 02:39:48.239 --> 02:39:51.120 you know, why waste your money on organic foods? Why 2842 02:39:51.159 --> 02:39:54.799 pay this much for those organic strawberries. I was doing 2843 02:39:54.840 --> 02:39:57.239 it kind of on faith. That I was making a difference, 2844 02:39:57.639 --> 02:40:01.000 that's great. But to see it materialize and Selena's like 2845 02:40:01.079 --> 02:40:04.719 idea showed me that my actions are not only good 2846 02:40:04.719 --> 02:40:07.879 for my health and my family's health, but they're actually 2847 02:40:07.920 --> 02:40:11.239 helping my neighbors, people I may never have known three 2848 02:40:11.319 --> 02:40:14.520 hundred miles north of me, but now I can see 2849 02:40:14.879 --> 02:40:17.440 that my choices were improving their lives too. 2850 02:40:17.879 --> 02:40:18.840 That's right. Yeah. 2851 02:40:18.879 --> 02:40:21.639 Well, I always say that the issues are local, and 2852 02:40:21.680 --> 02:40:24.239 we do it one on one, and we do it 2853 02:40:24.280 --> 02:40:26.760 from the ground up, if we weren't real change, and 2854 02:40:27.760 --> 02:40:30.000 I've seen this type of thing even in my life. 2855 02:40:30.000 --> 02:40:32.639 I've told the story before on the radio here that 2856 02:40:33.600 --> 02:40:36.479 forty years ago we had a dog that came down 2857 02:40:36.479 --> 02:40:40.000 with a particular type of lymphoma and I heard a 2858 02:40:40.079 --> 02:40:42.840 radio report about how farm workers were getting that same 2859 02:40:42.879 --> 02:40:45.239 thing and said, yeah, they use this stuff. They spray 2860 02:40:45.239 --> 02:40:47.559 it on lawns, you know, to keep the weeds down 2861 02:40:47.600 --> 02:40:49.920 and everything. And our daughter, our dog was getting out 2862 02:40:50.000 --> 02:40:52.799 and got into that. And so it's like that really 2863 02:40:52.840 --> 02:40:55.799 clicked with me right there, how important that exposure is. 2864 02:40:56.319 --> 02:40:58.520 And it's been a while. That's cute, David. 2865 02:40:58.600 --> 02:41:01.319 That's so huge, because you know, to back up what 2866 02:41:01.360 --> 02:41:03.959 you're saying, there are actually studies that show that when 2867 02:41:04.000 --> 02:41:06.799 we use these We didn't really talk about our lawns 2868 02:41:07.000 --> 02:41:10.559 mm hmm. But ask if you're able to afford someone 2869 02:41:10.559 --> 02:41:13.879 who's taking care of your lawn, ask them what they're using. 2870 02:41:14.159 --> 02:41:17.520 Please know what they're using, and if they're using chemical pesticides, 2871 02:41:17.559 --> 02:41:20.440 please tell them to stop, not only for your kids, 2872 02:41:20.719 --> 02:41:22.959 but David, there are studies now that show that these 2873 02:41:22.959 --> 02:41:27.319 same chemicals do cause increased cancer. And our canine friends, Yeah, 2874 02:41:27.360 --> 02:41:30.040 that's right, So what's your dog? You know, the lymphoma 2875 02:41:30.120 --> 02:41:33.079 was definitely oh, you see the pretty clearly. 2876 02:41:33.239 --> 02:41:35.040 It was even the company that didn't even put a 2877 02:41:35.079 --> 02:41:37.600 sign out said you know, keep kids and dogs and 2878 02:41:37.879 --> 02:41:39.680 pets and everything off of this lawn. It's like, why 2879 02:41:39.680 --> 02:41:40.879 why would you put something on there? 2880 02:41:41.600 --> 02:41:43.879 Kids? And that's on in the first place. But you know, 2881 02:41:43.920 --> 02:41:45.799 we weren't doing our lawn, but the neighbor. 2882 02:41:45.639 --> 02:41:47.360 Was, and he's getting out of escaping out of the 2883 02:41:47.360 --> 02:41:49.840 fence and getting over into their lawn, and so yeah, 2884 02:41:49.840 --> 02:41:52.319 it was pretty clear what was happening with that same 2885 02:41:52.559 --> 02:41:55.600 type of cancer that they had with that. So it 2886 02:41:55.639 --> 02:41:58.079 affects our lives in so many different ways, and it's 2887 02:41:58.120 --> 02:42:00.600 something that is being done. I think in many cases 2888 02:42:01.200 --> 02:42:04.680 taking an economic shortcut, as you point out, you know, 2889 02:42:04.719 --> 02:42:06.719 they might save just a little bit of money, but 2890 02:42:06.760 --> 02:42:09.079 it's the volume that they make it up on. And 2891 02:42:09.120 --> 02:42:10.680 so I think that's one of the other reasons why 2892 02:42:10.719 --> 02:42:12.280 if we keep it small, if we keep it local, 2893 02:42:12.520 --> 02:42:15.000 that helps a great deal. But as you point it out, 2894 02:42:15.079 --> 02:42:18.920 by voting with our pocketbook and voting for organic stuff, 2895 02:42:18.920 --> 02:42:20.120 and I think the same thing is going to happen 2896 02:42:20.200 --> 02:42:22.159 if we do that with other products, if we do 2897 02:42:22.239 --> 02:42:25.479 that with cosmetics and other things like that, make it 2898 02:42:25.559 --> 02:42:27.719 known to them, hey we don't want this stuff. You know, 2899 02:42:27.879 --> 02:42:31.399 that's such a marketplace thing. Can work with other things 2900 02:42:31.440 --> 02:42:35.200 other than organic food. We can have organic makeup and 2901 02:42:35.559 --> 02:42:38.479 other things like that. So it's important. 2902 02:42:38.920 --> 02:42:41.120 Yeah, you know, there's a lot of stupidity in the 2903 02:42:41.159 --> 02:42:43.920 world and someone has to be the adult. Yeah, and 2904 02:42:43.959 --> 02:42:47.280 to be adults, we need information if they keep keeping 2905 02:42:47.399 --> 02:42:50.239 you You're so right though, because you know, organic cosmetics 2906 02:42:50.520 --> 02:42:55.239 are now widely available, David. Again, it's because of shoppers saying, hey, 2907 02:42:55.280 --> 02:42:58.879 I just don't want these chemicals, and companies are responding 2908 02:42:58.920 --> 02:42:59.959 because of the profit mode. 2909 02:43:00.319 --> 02:43:01.440 That's right, that's right. 2910 02:43:01.559 --> 02:43:05.639 So You're absolutely right. We are changing the market, so. 2911 02:43:05.680 --> 02:43:07.600 Be a smart consumer. And one of the ways that 2912 02:43:07.639 --> 02:43:10.559 you can educate yourself about what is going very quickly. 2913 02:43:10.680 --> 02:43:15.399 Excellent book, Raising Healthy Kids Protecting Your Children from Hidden 2914 02:43:15.479 --> 02:43:21.520 Chemicals and toxins David Steiman and David it's on Amazon. 2915 02:43:21.959 --> 02:43:23.840 Is there a place that you prefer that they go? 2916 02:43:23.920 --> 02:43:25.760 Is there some place that you sell that directly or 2917 02:43:25.840 --> 02:43:26.360 a website? 2918 02:43:26.440 --> 02:43:26.600 All? 2919 02:43:27.479 --> 02:43:30.760 Thank you for asking support your local bookseller. The book 2920 02:43:30.799 --> 02:43:33.680 is available everywhere, so go to your local independent bookseller 2921 02:43:33.680 --> 02:43:36.040 and you can get Raising Healthy Kids Protecting Your Children 2922 02:43:36.040 --> 02:43:37.559 from Hidden Chemical talks good. 2923 02:43:37.879 --> 02:43:39.440 Or you can go to Amazon and Barnes and. 2924 02:43:40.559 --> 02:43:44.920 You know, yeah, the people that work there guys pretty hard. 2925 02:43:45.959 --> 02:43:48.280 I agree, Yeah, get it, get it locally if you can, 2926 02:43:48.719 --> 02:43:52.520 and it probably is everywhere. Raising Healthy Kids by David Steiman. 2927 02:43:52.680 --> 02:43:55.000 It's been a real pleasure talking to you, and that's 2928 02:43:55.000 --> 02:43:56.600 a very important book and we will be getting that 2929 02:43:56.639 --> 02:44:03.959 far family, absolutely because that's my son's wife is pregnant 2930 02:44:04.000 --> 02:44:06.559 and so we really want of all you needed this 2931 02:44:06.600 --> 02:44:07.319 stuff right now? 2932 02:44:07.399 --> 02:44:08.000 Yeah, that's right. 2933 02:44:08.000 --> 02:44:10.479 We better, yeah, we better get you a copy as 2934 02:44:10.559 --> 02:44:11.360 a friend. 2935 02:44:11.719 --> 02:44:14.000 We will thank you so much, David. It is great 2936 02:44:14.040 --> 02:44:17.399 talking to you. A very important book raising healthy kids. 2937 02:44:18.000 --> 02:44:20.280 I have a good day. Thank you so much, and folks, 2938 02:44:20.479 --> 02:44:22.479 thank you. We're just about the end of the show 2939 02:44:22.520 --> 02:44:24.360 here and I want to thank everybody for joining us. 2940 02:44:24.719 --> 02:44:27.479 I've got one more thing that I did not cover 2941 02:44:27.559 --> 02:44:30.639 that was sent to us besides the flag, and that 2942 02:44:30.879 --> 02:44:34.000 is this book. They said, I can give this to 2943 02:44:34.079 --> 02:44:40.120 my kids Doctor Fauci. How boy from Brooklyn, America's doctor. Yeah, 2944 02:44:40.200 --> 02:44:42.840 that can educate the kids about doctor Fauci. Or I 2945 02:44:42.879 --> 02:44:45.680 guess we could go back and get the archives for 2946 02:44:45.719 --> 02:44:47.120 one of the kids a little bit older, and I'll 2947 02:44:47.239 --> 02:44:51.799 educate them about a lot of things about doctor Fauci 2948 02:44:51.840 --> 02:45:46.600 and other things that are happening in our society. 2949 02:45:12.079 --> 02:45:55.399 Barb. 2950 02:46:36.360 --> 02:46:39.719 Let's talk a little bit about fear, because I mentioned 2951 02:46:39.719 --> 02:46:42.319 this yesterday. I said, why do you have these Christian 2952 02:46:42.360 --> 02:46:44.200 pastors out there who are putting in a spirit of 2953 02:46:44.280 --> 02:46:47.399 fear into people about this election? So we don't need 2954 02:46:47.440 --> 02:46:50.399 to fear this. We got to look at it objectively 2955 02:46:50.520 --> 02:46:54.079 and everything. But we need to set the standard of 2956 02:46:54.280 --> 02:46:58.079 morality high. We need to set the standard of christ high, 2957 02:46:58.120 --> 02:47:00.559 and we don't need to yoke ourselves to the corrupt 2958 02:47:00.639 --> 02:47:05.200 individuals and they'll apologetically say, well, you know, nobody's perfect. Well, 2959 02:47:05.319 --> 02:47:07.959 most people don't brag about That's one of the things 2960 02:47:08.000 --> 02:47:08.760 I said about. 2961 02:47:08.520 --> 02:47:09.840 Trump from the very beginning. 2962 02:47:09.959 --> 02:47:14.000 I said, you know, for the longest time, I had said, 2963 02:47:14.239 --> 02:47:16.840 you know, what is it about the LGBT people, Well, 2964 02:47:16.840 --> 02:47:19.680 they have their pride parades. I said, they're proud of 2965 02:47:19.760 --> 02:47:24.760 their sin. I said, people don't typically parade their sin, 2966 02:47:25.639 --> 02:47:27.959 and they're not typically proud of it, but these people are. 2967 02:47:29.159 --> 02:47:31.959 And I even use the analogy, I said, do you 2968 02:47:32.000 --> 02:47:36.920 have adulterer parades? You know that might wind you up 2969 02:47:36.920 --> 02:47:41.360 in divorce court. But you know, when Trump came on 2970 02:47:41.440 --> 02:47:44.440 the scene politically, I said, well, I guess I have 2971 02:47:44.520 --> 02:47:47.000 to change that analogy because he is somebody who is 2972 02:47:47.040 --> 02:47:51.079 proud of his adultery. Right, he parades his immorality like 2973 02:47:51.159 --> 02:47:54.319 the LGBT people do. And that's a big problem. Why 2974 02:47:54.360 --> 02:47:57.559 would you ally yourself to that. And you know, you 2975 02:47:58.040 --> 02:48:03.639 have the Christian churches who will criticize the Conservatives, who 2976 02:48:03.680 --> 02:48:07.879 will criticize the liberal Christians who attach themselves to LGBT 2977 02:48:08.000 --> 02:48:11.719 and elevate and worship LGBT, and yet they do it 2978 02:48:11.760 --> 02:48:14.959 with Trump, and the two of them are both proud 2979 02:48:15.040 --> 02:48:17.840 of their sin. So but it really comes down to fear. 2980 02:48:19.000 --> 02:48:21.399 And I saw this on a world it says, are 2981 02:48:21.440 --> 02:48:26.159 conservative Christians driven by fear? You know, you got a 2982 02:48:26.159 --> 02:48:29.319 lot of the so called leaders tell you to vote 2983 02:48:29.360 --> 02:48:32.239 out of fear. And a lot of these leaders were 2984 02:48:32.239 --> 02:48:34.680 also telling you four years ago, like al Muhller was 2985 02:48:34.719 --> 02:48:38.879 telling you to take the vaccine out of fear and 2986 02:48:38.959 --> 02:48:40.959 do it because you love your neighbor and so forth, 2987 02:48:41.000 --> 02:48:44.719 all these different things. But the question is, you know, 2988 02:48:44.760 --> 02:48:48.719 should Christians be looking to Christ as their leader? Because 2989 02:48:48.760 --> 02:48:50.479 if you're looking to Christ as your leader, you don't 2990 02:48:50.479 --> 02:48:54.440 have fear. Right, what would you fear if you really 2991 02:48:54.479 --> 02:49:00.719 see yourself in His hand? What would you fear if 2992 02:49:01.079 --> 02:49:05.079 Christians ever, and I say Christians is at large. Right, 2993 02:49:06.120 --> 02:49:11.079 if the church at large begins to see itself in 2994 02:49:11.159 --> 02:49:14.559 the hand of Christ, if they see Christ as their 2995 02:49:14.680 --> 02:49:19.159 leader and their protector, that's going to make a big difference. 2996 02:49:20.280 --> 02:49:23.959 But if they don't, they have to keep quiet, they 2997 02:49:24.040 --> 02:49:28.079 have to not rock the boat, and they're ashamed of 2998 02:49:28.120 --> 02:49:32.040 their faith and they live in fear, and it's being 2999 02:49:32.120 --> 02:49:35.239 sold to them by these people who have thousands of 3000 02:49:35.239 --> 02:49:39.879 people show up every week to their building and or 3001 02:49:39.879 --> 02:49:44.280 they run seminaries like al Moller, and you know they've 3002 02:49:44.319 --> 02:49:47.200 got to tow that line. Or they want to have 3003 02:49:47.280 --> 02:49:51.479 connections to politicians. You know, they want to be seen 3004 02:49:52.760 --> 02:49:55.600 standing next to Trump or praying for Trump or whatever. 3005 02:49:55.920 --> 02:49:59.840 You know, you stop and think about it. Christ said 3006 02:50:01.920 --> 02:50:06.920 those who are not sick don't need a physician. If 3007 02:50:06.959 --> 02:50:08.920 you think you've got everything handled and you don't need 3008 02:50:08.920 --> 02:50:11.079 any forgiveness, you're not going to get forgiveness. And you 3009 02:50:11.120 --> 02:50:14.879 know you see that with Trump, don't you. I've played 3010 02:50:14.879 --> 02:50:19.840 for you. The clips were Frank Luntz and Jake Tapper 3011 02:50:19.920 --> 02:50:24.079 of all people talk to him, Don't you think you 3012 02:50:24.120 --> 02:50:27.360 need forgiveness? You say that, you know, you kind of 3013 02:50:27.600 --> 02:50:30.440 nod your head to the Christians and so forth, and no, 3014 02:50:30.559 --> 02:50:33.000 I don't really think I need any forgiveness. I really 3015 02:50:33.000 --> 02:50:36.280 don't think I need any forgiveness. That is the most 3016 02:50:36.360 --> 02:50:39.040 dangerous position. Where are all these people who are praying 3017 02:50:39.040 --> 02:50:43.079 for him? Do they really love him if they won't 3018 02:50:43.120 --> 02:50:47.120 tell him that he does need forgiveness and where he 3019 02:50:47.120 --> 02:50:50.520 can find forgiveness. You got all these pastors like Paula 3020 02:50:50.520 --> 02:50:53.639 White and this Hispanic guy that I don't need Maldonado 3021 02:50:53.760 --> 02:50:57.319 or something was it the guy who has six homes, 3022 02:50:57.559 --> 02:51:00.559 a private jet, one hundred and twenty million dollars in 3023 02:51:00.639 --> 02:51:03.319 terms of his net assets and all the reston. Does 3024 02:51:03.360 --> 02:51:06.719 he talk to Trump and say, you know, you stand 3025 02:51:06.799 --> 02:51:10.760 condemned before God, and the only way that you're going 3026 02:51:10.840 --> 02:51:15.000 to stop that condemnation is through Christ. They've never given 3027 02:51:15.079 --> 02:51:19.000 him the gospel. These people stand next to him, they 3028 02:51:19.000 --> 02:51:20.840 make a big show out of praying for him, and 3029 02:51:21.200 --> 02:51:24.479 they hate him. How could you do that over and 3030 02:51:24.479 --> 02:51:27.000 over again? I'm a spiritual advisor, says Paul White. How 3031 02:51:27.040 --> 02:51:29.559 could you over and over again? You don't tell him 3032 02:51:29.559 --> 02:51:32.600 the gospel. What they're doing is they're feeding his greed 3033 02:51:32.680 --> 02:51:35.639 because these people are greedy. Paul White and these other 3034 02:51:35.680 --> 02:51:38.479 prosperity gospel preachers are just all about the money, and 3035 02:51:38.520 --> 02:51:41.559 so is Trump, and they just, you know, they just 3036 02:51:41.639 --> 02:51:44.840 grift off of each other. They have nothing to do 3037 02:51:45.239 --> 02:51:48.719 with a gospel, They have no hope to give him, 3038 02:51:49.600 --> 02:51:51.799 and they are trying to put that spirit of fear 3039 02:51:52.479 --> 02:51:55.479 in you. And it's not just a prosperity gospel people either. 3040 02:51:56.000 --> 02:51:58.959 It's a lot of these Baptist conservative preachers out there 3041 02:51:58.959 --> 02:52:02.159 who are doing it. I said the Archbishop of Vigano, 3042 02:52:02.200 --> 02:52:05.120 who is a conservative in his politics, he's doing that 3043 02:52:05.200 --> 02:52:07.719 as well. And so this guy says, you know, talking 3044 02:52:07.719 --> 02:52:10.559 about fear, he said, at times, it seems like the 3045 02:52:10.600 --> 02:52:15.200 media is obsessed with the fears the conservative Christians supposedly possess. 3046 02:52:16.399 --> 02:52:18.680 And with that, he's talking about how they always call 3047 02:52:18.799 --> 02:52:23.520 us transphobic or homophobic or this. This is always a 3048 02:52:23.559 --> 02:52:26.120 phobia there, right, So he says, well, you know, they 3049 02:52:26.840 --> 02:52:32.799 have a christian aphobia, christanophobia. Maybe I think we just 3050 02:52:32.840 --> 02:52:37.799 need to stop with all the fraudulent psychology, all the 3051 02:52:37.920 --> 02:52:41.399 Sigmund Freud. Freud is a fraud. Let's stop with all 3052 02:52:41.440 --> 02:52:45.959 the phobia stuff. You know, Let's just understand we've got 3053 02:52:46.040 --> 02:52:50.399 nothing to fear but God. And if you fear God, 3054 02:52:50.399 --> 02:52:53.719 he is a merciful God as well. 3055 02:52:54.360 --> 02:52:55.479 But it has been. 3056 02:52:55.399 --> 02:52:59.000 Argued that these fears have turned Christians into monsters, made 3057 02:52:59.040 --> 02:53:04.079 them afraid of women, motivated their voting, and led them 3058 02:53:04.079 --> 02:53:09.719 to become intolerant. Scholars have argued that conservative Christianity has 3059 02:53:09.760 --> 02:53:14.440 created a culture of fear, and they've called conservative Christianity 3060 02:53:14.559 --> 02:53:17.760 the religion of fear. Well, I got to say, you know, 3061 02:53:17.799 --> 02:53:19.799 when you look at these people who are telling you 3062 02:53:19.840 --> 02:53:21.600 got to vote for Trump. Whether they're doing they're telling 3063 02:53:21.639 --> 02:53:24.399 you that out of fear, they're trying to tend that 3064 02:53:24.399 --> 02:53:29.879 that fear with people. They even accused Christians of fearing 3065 02:53:29.920 --> 02:53:34.040 that they are declining and thus need to increase their fertility, 3066 02:53:34.559 --> 02:53:39.680 he says. As I studied christanophobia and academic bias, he said, 3067 02:53:39.719 --> 02:53:43.719 I realized that the academics have a powerful motivation to 3068 02:53:43.799 --> 02:53:48.319 focus on negative characteristics with Christians, particularly white evangelicals. It's 3069 02:53:48.319 --> 02:53:51.319 not simply that certain academics seek to portray Christians in 3070 02:53:51.319 --> 02:53:53.879 a negative light, but it's also the fact that they 3071 02:53:53.920 --> 02:53:57.799 are hesitant to see the same negative traits among other groups, 3072 02:53:58.440 --> 02:54:02.360 particularly groups that the member of You can always see 3073 02:54:02.360 --> 02:54:04.520 the mote in the other person's eye, that log in 3074 02:54:04.559 --> 02:54:07.280 the other person's eye, the splinter, and you don't see 3075 02:54:07.319 --> 02:54:09.799 the big one in yours. But these people are full 3076 02:54:09.840 --> 02:54:12.639 of fear, aren't they. On the left, they have the 3077 02:54:12.760 --> 02:54:17.840 utmost fear of global warming and co two, they have 3078 02:54:17.920 --> 02:54:22.360 Trump fear. Just like the A lot of these conservative 3079 02:54:22.399 --> 02:54:25.799 Christians are pushing the fear of La La Well, these 3080 02:54:25.799 --> 02:54:29.200 people push the fear of Trump. When it became apparent 3081 02:54:29.200 --> 02:54:32.360 that Biden was highly unlikely to win reelection. It was 3082 02:54:32.399 --> 02:54:35.559 not merely the tone of disappointment, but it was a 3083 02:54:35.600 --> 02:54:39.319 sound of desperation. And it was also the sound of fear. 3084 02:54:41.079 --> 02:54:42.719 And I say that, you know, he says, I look 3085 02:54:42.719 --> 02:54:44.319 at this, and I see that they have a lot 3086 02:54:44.360 --> 02:54:46.559 of fear, and they can't see their fear. Can we 3087 02:54:46.600 --> 02:54:52.280 see our fear? They were afraid with Biden there, it's collapsing. 3088 02:54:52.319 --> 02:54:56.280 He's not going to win. Everything is lost. Are we 3089 02:54:56.440 --> 02:55:00.600 seeing the same type of thing on our side? This 3090 02:55:00.680 --> 02:55:04.360 is what was the basis of the grift of Stop 3091 02:55:04.440 --> 02:55:09.639 the Steel and Trump's Save America was the fear got 3092 02:55:09.680 --> 02:55:13.360 a lot of people into a lot of trouble unnecessarily. 3093 02:55:14.520 --> 02:55:16.520 I said, there's no reason to go there. I said, 3094 02:55:16.559 --> 02:55:19.239 it's going to be a trap. They trap us with fear, 3095 02:55:20.600 --> 02:55:24.959 they destroy us, they use depopulation shots on us because 3096 02:55:25.000 --> 02:55:29.159 of fear. We should not have fear like these other people. 3097 02:55:29.200 --> 02:55:31.559 But I see that same type of fear that he 3098 02:55:31.600 --> 02:55:35.959 sees in the left about Biden. I see that same 3099 02:55:36.000 --> 02:55:38.840 type of fear on the right being sold by people 3100 02:55:38.879 --> 02:55:43.360 who should be Christian leaders. Do we believe that those 3101 02:55:43.440 --> 02:55:48.159 who lament about the end of democracy? See both sides 3102 02:55:48.200 --> 02:55:51.000 are saying this and if we're not careful, if we 3103 02:55:51.000 --> 02:55:54.159 don't push back against this fear, this fear is going 3104 02:55:54.200 --> 02:55:55.879 to be used to create a civil war one way 3105 02:55:55.959 --> 02:56:00.600 or the other. That's why they're doing it, fear that 3106 02:56:00.639 --> 02:56:04.840 their political or religious group is going to be left out. Well, 3107 02:56:04.879 --> 02:56:06.399 I just have to say that as Christians were not 3108 02:56:06.440 --> 02:56:08.079 given a spirit of fear. So if you've got a 3109 02:56:08.120 --> 02:56:11.719 Christian leader who is selling you fear, then they're not 3110 02:56:11.760 --> 02:56:16.600 selling you Christ. They're selling you something else. They have 3111 02:56:16.639 --> 02:56:21.040 a spirit that is opposed to Christ. That spirit of 3112 02:56:21.079 --> 02:56:23.920 fear is coming from Satan's not coming from Christ. And 3113 02:56:23.959 --> 02:56:28.719 these politicians want to be politicians who are standing up 3114 02:56:28.760 --> 02:56:30.559 in front of these churches and telling people you've got 3115 02:56:30.559 --> 02:56:33.879 to vote for Trump. Now you got to vote where 3116 02:56:33.879 --> 02:56:37.040 it's a sin. They're selling you a spirit of fear. 3117 02:56:38.120 --> 02:56:40.079 They're not giving you a message from Christ, They're giving 3118 02:56:40.079 --> 02:56:43.120 you a message from Satan. What is it the political 3119 02:56:43.159 --> 02:56:47.040 progresses fear? And how might that fear be manifested in 3120 02:56:47.120 --> 02:56:50.600 their actions in our society? He said, My recent work 3121 02:56:50.639 --> 02:56:54.879 points to a distinct source of fear for political progressives, 3122 02:56:55.600 --> 02:56:59.719 and that is conservative Christians. They fear Christians, they don't 3123 02:56:59.719 --> 02:57:05.719 fear God. They fear Christians, well, he says, Christians can 3124 02:57:05.760 --> 02:57:08.520 say that they have a right to fear the larger 3125 02:57:08.600 --> 02:57:12.000 culture as well. Ultimately, I cannot determine if the fear 3126 02:57:12.079 --> 02:57:16.879 within progressives is higher or more consequential than the fear 3127 02:57:17.040 --> 02:57:21.840 within Christians. As I said yesterday, repeated over and over 3128 02:57:21.840 --> 02:57:26.760 again the Bible, fear not, fear not, fear not. Why 3129 02:57:26.879 --> 02:57:32.840 Because God rules. God rules. Even when we have Detalitarians 3130 02:57:32.879 --> 02:57:37.719 in place in our society, God still rules. And even 3131 02:57:37.760 --> 02:57:42.920 when the wicked succeed, God rules. I asked the question 3132 02:57:42.959 --> 02:57:45.479 in some so many times, why do the wicked prosper? 3133 02:57:46.159 --> 02:57:50.920 Why do they succeed? Well, we take solace in the 3134 02:57:50.959 --> 02:57:55.760 fact that God is in control and that He sees 3135 02:57:55.879 --> 02:57:59.440 what is happening. So let them fear. We don't have 3136 02:57:59.479 --> 02:58:01.559 that spirit. If we have that spirit, you better cast 3137 02:58:01.600 --> 02:58:06.520 it out, and you better stop paying attention to these 3138 02:58:06.520 --> 02:58:08.000 people who are pushing that fear. 3139 02:58:08.200 --> 02:58:11.840 Wearing of biased and false neooze has become all too common. 3140 02:58:19.200 --> 02:58:31.799 First, unfortunately, and this is extremely dangerous to our democracy. 3141 02:58:32.040 --> 02:58:35.360 This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. This is extremely 3142 02:58:35.440 --> 02:58:36.760 dangerous to our democracy. 3143 02:58:36.959 --> 02:58:39.159 This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. 3144 02:58:39.200 --> 02:58:41.399 This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. 3145 02:58:41.719 --> 02:58:44.239 This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. 3146 02:58:44.440 --> 02:58:46.959 This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. 3147 02:58:47.200 --> 02:58:49.799 This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. 3148 02:58:50.000 --> 02:58:52.319 This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. 3149 02:58:52.520 --> 02:58:55.280 Break free from the usual script with a David Knight Show, 3150 02:58:55.399 --> 02:58:58.760 a fresh perspective bringing you genuine insights on current events. 3151 02:58:58.920 --> 02:59:00.680 But if the show is going to day on the air, 3152 02:59:00.840 --> 02:59:04.959 we'll need your continued support. 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