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Speaker 2: It is the Drive with Spence.
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Speaker 3: you Tells number one Sports Talk. I'm Scott Mitchell filling
Speaker 3: in for Spence all week. I'm here all week. I'm
Speaker 3: here twice on Saturday. And enjoy the HDL and make
Speaker 3: sure to tip your watter. I'm excited about what's going.
Speaker 2: To happen right now.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that much we have with us none
Speaker 3: other than Trevor Riley, former Utah Great and former NFL
Speaker 3: player and former coach, current coach, former coach, Trevor, Welcome
Speaker 3: to the show.
Speaker 2: How are you doing today?
Speaker 5: Well, I just want to say, mister Mitchell, it's an
Speaker 5: honorous speak to a legend. I'm doing very very well.
Speaker 5: How you doing?
Speaker 2: You know, I'm living a dream and it's not a nightmare.
Speaker 3: So I feel like I'm up one, you know, on
Speaker 3: the competition.
Speaker 2: Here a little bit. What are you up to these days?
Speaker 5: Well, ain't that's the question today? Mark two is football
Speaker 5: practice to that of six forty five UTA Islanders at
Speaker 5: Zions Banks Stadium in Herriman. We we've got to know
Speaker 5: college in about twenty five days. August twenty third.
Speaker 3: Oh, very very very nice. How good for you? Well,
Speaker 3: thanks for joining the show. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Well, it's great to be here. I want to ask
Speaker 5: you a question, Scott quickly getting into it? What do
Speaker 5: you think of Utah's quarterback? I got to ask you.
Speaker 5: I went and saw him the other day. I have
Speaker 5: asked you questions. I want to think, Well, what you
Speaker 5: take on this guy? I don't know much about him.
Speaker 5: I'm kind of not being the loop. Can you fill
Speaker 5: me in? What do you think of this kid?
Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you about Devon dam Pier. You know,
Speaker 3: the quarterback right lee or wrongly, has such an impact
Speaker 3: on the outcome of games, and even more so in college.
Speaker 3: And what I like about Devon Dampier is that he
Speaker 3: really is a multifaceted player. He can manufacture offense in
Speaker 3: a lot of different ways. He has the best sack
Speaker 3: ratio of any player in college football, so it doesn't
Speaker 3: get sacked very often. He's very elusive. He's a he's
Speaker 3: a smart runner, you know. I think I think, uh,
Speaker 3: Cam Rising maybe wasn't a smart runner. You know, he
Speaker 3: liked to run into trouble and uh, you know, which
Speaker 3: was you know, part of what made him great too.
Speaker 3: But uh uh and Devin control the ball fairly effective.
Speaker 3: So you know, I believe he's a catalyst for Utah
Speaker 3: to be being able to be more explosive and score
Speaker 3: more points on offense. And and if you if you
Speaker 3: do that, then then the team certainly is going to
Speaker 3: have a very very good year this year. I don't
Speaker 3: I don't see it being a real big problem that
Speaker 3: he's kind of moving up, you know, in a in
Speaker 3: a tier of sports. You know, I think he's you know,
Speaker 3: because he's a really good athlete. He'll adjust to everything.
Speaker 3: He's got some good people around him. Offensive line wide
Speaker 3: receiver position is still kind of up for grabs. But uh,
Speaker 3: I think he's going to have a huge impact on
Speaker 3: on the team this year.
Speaker 2: I really do.
Speaker 5: Well. I appreciate kill me and I'm asking because I'm
Speaker 5: going to be going to practic this tomorrow sometime next week.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be looking at the kid we're running the
Speaker 5: spread offense in our team, and I know, Utah, it's
Speaker 5: gonna be well a newbie but really an oldie if
Speaker 5: you go back to Irber and the other stuff. The
Speaker 5: spread offense. Man, you know, I'm just I'm learning a
Speaker 5: little bit about it and where I've heard about this
Speaker 5: kid because he's a winner. I know they won five
Speaker 5: games last year in Mexico Movie four, but not an
Speaker 5: easy place to win. And I hear that this kid
Speaker 5: has the intangibles. This is a little short but I'm
Speaker 5: interested to see. You know, I know, I know how
Speaker 5: big you are, Skuy. I know you know, in the
Speaker 5: old school offenses that was kind of a premium. So
Speaker 5: I'm interested to see how it works. You know, he's
Speaker 5: the shorter guy, but they're running the more spread, open offense.
Speaker 5: I think I'm interested to see if it works. Honestly,
Speaker 5: this is a new before it's been a while since
Speaker 5: we run this offense.
Speaker 3: I think it worked. Here's the thing about offense. I'll
Speaker 3: just get I'll just enlighten you. Okay, it's really simple.
Speaker 3: You just pick a guy and let it fly. That
Speaker 3: was the best advice I ever got, and and it
Speaker 3: was really good advice. And then the other advice was,
Speaker 3: no matter how good your defense is, you can't beat
Speaker 3: a perfect throw.
Speaker 5: So that's the truth.
Speaker 2: That's all you gotta do.
Speaker 3: You just just make a perfect throw and pick a
Speaker 3: guy and just let it fly and everything else will happen.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: I have to ask you this. I I have been
Speaker 3: wanting to ask you this question for some time now.
Speaker 3: I need I need to understand. Are you on an
Speaker 3: NDA where you can't talk about your experience of Colorado?
Speaker 2: Or can you? Can?
Speaker 5: You? I can talk about I mean, yeah, I can
Speaker 5: talk about it. I don't like to hide anything, right,
Speaker 5: absolutely if it's if it's fair game, they all talked
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 2: So what was what was Deon like?
Speaker 3: Because he's fascinating to me because he's so flashy, you know,
Speaker 3: and he's so kind of in your face, but there's
Speaker 3: a lot of substance there, and I really like a
Speaker 3: lot of things that he says and does.
Speaker 2: What was it really like coaching with him?
Speaker 5: I would say that a NFL guy, he's about appliche
Speaker 5: about that, that's kind of a moniker or a character
Speaker 5: when he's in the public light. But at the same time,
Speaker 5: he really wants to help these kids. So his heart
Speaker 5: and the message behind closed doors is always about the
Speaker 5: kids first. And even with the you know, when you
Speaker 5: talk about football stuff, he wants to take care of
Speaker 5: the kids, like players, like like like pros. I mean,
Speaker 5: so it's the whole, the whole conversation is always about
Speaker 5: kids with him. Now, some of the extracurricular stuff people
Speaker 5: get excited about, I look at it more like the WWE.
Speaker 5: You know, football and Twitter and the Internet in general
Speaker 5: is a platform for characters, and I think Dion plays
Speaker 5: the role as well as he can. He's trying to
Speaker 5: enact change in his you know, the communities that he
Speaker 5: grew up in and coming to Colorado, Scott. You know,
Speaker 5: that's not the most urban setting or the most his
Speaker 5: black people just there's not a lot of them there. Okay,
Speaker 5: He's bringing a whole different type of message to a
Speaker 5: group of people, and it's it's an interesting thing to watch.
Speaker 5: It's kind of like, you know, it's machine learning. It's
Speaker 5: too totally different types of machines interacting. And I'm a
Speaker 5: big fan of Dion. Uh. You know, everybody has their
Speaker 5: faults or problems, especially me. I'm not anyone to say that.
Speaker 5: So whenever people are critical of anybody. I'm always you know,
Speaker 5: what's the the big general message with him as he
Speaker 5: wants to help kids, and I think he's put his
Speaker 5: money where his mouth is.
Speaker 3: I'm glad to hear that because I do. I like
Speaker 3: a lot of what he says, and I can resonate
Speaker 3: with a lot of it. So it is fascinating. Speaking
Speaker 3: of of Dion, He's hired Marshall Fall Hall of Famer,
Speaker 3: Warren Sapp Hall of Famer, Byron Lefwich, longtime NFL quarterback,
Speaker 3: Super Bowl champion himself. He surrounded himself with a bunch
Speaker 3: of Hall of Fame NFL players. Is that a good
Speaker 3: Is that a good thing? Does that work? Having all
Speaker 3: these because there's kind of maybe this, well, NFL players
Speaker 3: they don't really want to, you know, spend the time
Speaker 3: and put in the hours.
Speaker 2: Like a like a coach has to do. Maybe they're
Speaker 2: a little bit of prima donna. What what? What?
Speaker 3: What do you feel about hiring of signific an amount
Speaker 3: of high profile former NFL players?
Speaker 5: Well, I think it's definitely a double edged short because
Speaker 5: a lot of times, as players that we get ready
Speaker 5: for we can get ourselves ready for the game right
Speaker 5: when you talking about getting ten other people ready, that's
Speaker 5: a whole other animal. Sometimes personal rore teams don't cross over.
Speaker 5: With all that being said, Warren Staff was fantastic a
Speaker 5: short time I spent with him. He was fantastic, inspiring, informative.
Speaker 5: Now to your point about NFL guys, right, especially some
Speaker 5: Hall of famers, they're not going to get coffee and
Speaker 5: they they've paid their dues to the game in that regard,
Speaker 5: and that sometimes doesn't sit well with coaches. But you
Speaker 5: and I were in the NFL, dude, and you if
Speaker 5: you're a Hall of Famer, you walk into a room
Speaker 5: of football guys and you're the guy. And so that's
Speaker 5: kind of a thing where with Warren, with Marshall, with
Speaker 5: with Prime, I think Prime, you know, as Prime always says,
Speaker 5: even in the Hall of Fame, there's levels to it, right,
Speaker 5: I think Prime is probably in the penthouse of the
Speaker 5: first team. All a history of the NFL is probably
Speaker 5: question so in that room, right, he still carries a
Speaker 5: little bit of weight. There's still a little bit of reverence.
Speaker 5: Right when Dion says something with football, it's like that's
Speaker 5: Deion Sanders, Dude.
Speaker 3: So back when you played for some reason I got
Speaker 3: in the first segment I got, I went, I went
Speaker 3: kind of down memory lane a little bit, and there
Speaker 3: was one of the things that popped in my head.
Speaker 2: I didn't say it on the.
Speaker 3: Radio, but I remember a time when coach Sula, who
Speaker 3: was pretty hard nosed, and you played for a guy
Speaker 3: Bilichick who was pretty hard nosed well, and Winningham was
Speaker 3: no you know, uh aqual either. But Coachula one year said, hey,
Speaker 3: all the veteran players can stay home during training camp,
Speaker 3: and but if we have any issues, then you're all
Speaker 3: back in the dorm. So we have this big meeting, like,
Speaker 3: you know, hey, don't screw this up. Like Coachula doesn't
Speaker 3: do stuff like this. This is nice that we can
Speaker 3: stay home. And so, you know, we go two or
Speaker 3: three days and the guy guy messes up big time,
Speaker 3: really bad. And he in fact, he he didn't show
Speaker 3: up one day for practice and and he didn't show
Speaker 3: up till six o'clock that night, and he made up this,
Speaker 3: He made up the story that he was kidnapped and
Speaker 3: he and he was taken out into the Everglace.
Speaker 5: Such like Miami, I got a story like this to
Speaker 5: keep going, keep going. Could happen?
Speaker 2: No it did.
Speaker 5: So it's just like this guy's in the ever He
Speaker 5: says that they took me to the Everglades.
Speaker 2: Really, they took him out in the Everglades.
Speaker 3: He took his car, he had to walk back, and
Speaker 3: so so the FBI gets involved in this and they
Speaker 3: start asking questions. They realize this guy's not telling the truth,
Speaker 3: and so he finally admits the truth. He says, look,
Speaker 3: I slept in, I panicked. I didn't want to mess
Speaker 3: it up for the team, so I made up this
Speaker 3: story that I got I got kidd So so back
Speaker 3: in the dorms we go, and the team was so
Speaker 3: furious with this guy that they taped him to a
Speaker 3: palm tree.
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3: And he and he and he was out there, you
Speaker 3: know with the with the athletic tape, you know they
Speaker 3: tape your ankles. They this guy do a palm tree
Speaker 3: for he was and he was out there all night long.
Speaker 3: Did you ever have any crazy things like that happened
Speaker 3: when you played in the NFL.
Speaker 5: Well, I gotta tell you. College was a little college.
Speaker 5: We had more of that stuff. Okay, okay, college was
Speaker 5: and it got cleaned up as we got older. Okay,
Speaker 5: but you know there was a lot of that hazing,
Speaker 5: but it would say we were just wild man, you know,
Speaker 5: twenty years ago, fifteen years ago, guys would do wild stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And in the NFL, we saw a little bit of
Speaker 5: that carries your helmets here there. And I saw rookie
Speaker 5: dinner in Miami. I was playing for the Dolphins. I
Speaker 5: saw a lot of stuff in Miami. I was only
Speaker 5: there for six Then I saw some crazy stuff in Miami.
Speaker 5: But we had a rookie dinner where you know I was.
Speaker 5: I was in a rookie but I was there. And
Speaker 5: this is the end of the season and one of
Speaker 5: the one of the vets, right, Hall of Fame guy,
Speaker 5: he's the table. He talks about thirty five rand. He says,
Speaker 5: give me five thousand dollars your finest wine to go.
Speaker 5: It's not high. I want to get to four thousands.
Speaker 5: He walked out. So you see, while I saw a
Speaker 5: guy in Miami one time, a linebacker. He didn't show
Speaker 5: up for the first game. Okay, we're in la he
Speaker 5: goes missing. I mean, that doesn't happen. Then we find
Speaker 5: out he's flown out to his former team. And this
Speaker 5: is all during the week of the game. So any
Speaker 5: story you tell me about Miami Dolphins, Scott, I gotta
Speaker 5: tell you. I believe you. And they made a movie
Speaker 5: about it, didn't Jim Carrey, wasn't he in a movie
Speaker 5: The spintera pep Detective. Wasn't about somebody that the Dolphins?
Speaker 3: Well it was it was Dan Marino and that someone
Speaker 3: stole the Miami Dolphin mascot the Dolphins.
Speaker 5: There you go, who done it? Okay? And I got
Speaker 5: to tell you the Dolphins just because I described Miami.
Speaker 5: I see, it's like Las Vegas and La had a baby.
Speaker 3: Dude, you know what that is a perfect why that is? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was just going to say this is you know,
Speaker 3: they say what state. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas,
Speaker 3: and Miami's probably didn't times worse.
Speaker 5: So dude, I went to spring Bak there one time.
Speaker 5: Let me tell you what. Those can't tell the stories here,
Speaker 5: but you see wild stuff. And just like I saw that,
Speaker 5: I didn't. I just show that the NFL was wild,
Speaker 5: but Miami was. I was in New York, Miami, in Boston, Miami,
Speaker 5: and the short time I was there was the wildest.
Speaker 5: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: So training camps have started you know fall camp at
Speaker 3: the U has started. How did you like camp? What
Speaker 3: was your what was your take on going back to football?
Speaker 5: I would say I'm the last of the generation of
Speaker 5: two a days. Okay, they ended my the year after
Speaker 5: I left. They didn't allow them anymore. I think it
Speaker 5: was twenty fifteen. Wow, we had two days. And I
Speaker 5: know the old days were harder. They always were harder
Speaker 5: in the old days, right They always say that, but
Speaker 5: go ahead.
Speaker 2: I just said, of course, yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 5: So there's always the stories of that. But I remember
Speaker 5: camp being a time to compete. So there was always
Speaker 5: jobs and for whatever reason, they always tried to replacement.
Speaker 5: You saw it was and it was a good thing
Speaker 5: because we're bringing good players, right right, so Nate Orchard, right,
Speaker 5: we were bringing in guys behind me or I was like,
Speaker 5: and so James Iono. There was a lot of guys
Speaker 5: that I was always for me. Camp was a time
Speaker 5: where I had to fight, all right, that was fight time.
Speaker 5: That was the time to go. I had to whoop
Speaker 5: some people's butts to make sure and this is my spot,
Speaker 5: you get what I'm saying. So there was a you
Speaker 5: don't really compete against the offense or the opponent. You're
Speaker 5: competing against the offense, and you're competing as an eventsive
Speaker 5: player against your competition by seeing who can fight harder.
Speaker 5: And I'm interested to see that. I want to see
Speaker 5: that fight in this team this year, Scott. I got
Speaker 5: to tell you they lost a quarterback last year, and
Speaker 5: I thought they powered a little bit. I thought we
Speaker 5: had more in the tank than what we gave and
Speaker 5: so I think coach would agree with that. The message
Speaker 5: this year is we're going to they should fight. We
Speaker 5: got to fight for every down, every inch we freaking play.
Speaker 5: I want to say that you'd fight it out like
Speaker 5: we used to, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good observation because I would agree with you.
Speaker 3: And there just wasn't There wasn't that determination. And you
Speaker 3: have to wonder because you know, coach Whittingham's done such
Speaker 3: a great job there and culture and and uh and
Speaker 3: having that fight and uh and and it felt like
Speaker 3: he almost slipped up and said, hey, you know, he goes.
Speaker 3: I couldn't end my career on what happened last year.
Speaker 3: So it almost sounded like he was ready to retire.
Speaker 3: And you wonder if maybe subconsciously he was a little
Speaker 3: bit more relaxed because maybe he thought he was going
Speaker 3: to retire. And uh, and and and because I don't
Speaker 3: get a sense from the team this year that they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know that there seems to be a sense of urgency.
Speaker 3: There does seem to be a lot of fight and
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of players for a lot
Speaker 3: of reasons. But uh, I just wonder if that that
Speaker 3: might have something to do with it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think that Scott. You know this now that they're
Speaker 5: a pro organization, they're making plans two and three years
Speaker 5: in advance. They want to win now, right, Yeah, but
Speaker 5: when you're buying freshmen, Okay, so everybody has to listen
Speaker 5: to this. Now, when you're paying rookies, you're buying freshmen,
Speaker 5: you're paying for development, you're buying you're buying your time
Speaker 5: right right, you're waiting to see. So it's a fine line.
Speaker 5: Last year they went all in on the quarterback, right,
Speaker 5: and not a bad move. You've got a fifth year,
Speaker 5: sixth you guy coming back, you got Keithy coming back.
Speaker 5: This is a veteran team. So they thought by the
Speaker 5: end of the season they were a m team because
Speaker 5: of the injuries, and because of what had happened, I
Speaker 5: would say Kyle was not ready because he would probably
Speaker 5: consider this, you know, maybe he was ready to retire.
Speaker 5: Because if I'm looking at it and I haven't told
Speaker 5: me so, I'm looking at it from an organization standpoint,
Speaker 5: that's the peak. The peak they're supposed to return the
Speaker 5: investment on that year. Does that make sense with the
Speaker 5: quarterback and all the guys returning, that was the year
Speaker 5: where the full investment return was supposed to comment. It
Speaker 5: was a complete disaster, obviously due to injuries among other things.
Speaker 3: Speaking of coach Witting, m what's your least favorite memory
Speaker 3: of coach Witting?
Speaker 5: Oh? For sure, when we used to roll. They don't
Speaker 5: do that here anymore, but I always care when we
Speaker 5: had to roll. They used to roll. Its old school military.
Speaker 5: He didn't high school too, but we used to roll.
Speaker 5: It was the thing in football. And that was the
Speaker 5: worst memory I ever had a coach. Okay, running if
Speaker 5: we ever were late or did something really bad, you know,
Speaker 5: rolling was always last resort. It was like if a
Speaker 5: guy refused to come to practice or missing study hall
Speaker 5: three or four times. That was my worst memory, though
Speaker 5: it was a ute was always having to roll because
Speaker 5: I was afraid it was only I couldn't beat everybody out.
Speaker 5: I would get motion sickness. But other than that, I
Speaker 5: had a great time with Coach. I liked the toughness.
Speaker 5: I thought it was good for us. I liked everything
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 2: Honestly, hold on a second. When you say roll, would
Speaker 2: you like just do somersaults and roll?
Speaker 5: And they used to roll on the side. There wasn't
Speaker 5: like long, long gated rolls, roll for fifty yards, roll
Speaker 5: for one hundred yards, nothing. That was just roll on
Speaker 5: your side. But what it was was just mental toughness,
Speaker 5: his old school marine training. Again, I don't do that anymore.
Speaker 5: They I've done it for a number of years. But
Speaker 5: that was, you know, that was That was my least
Speaker 5: favorite memory of Coach. And other than that, and it
Speaker 5: wasn't even that bad, right, we're just rolling. It wasn't
Speaker 5: like it was. But other than that, I Coach was
Speaker 5: pretty fair, all right. If you talked to him and
Speaker 5: really have a real conversation, I think people will find
Speaker 5: it Coach leading him as a parent guy.
Speaker 2: What what what? What? Why'd you go to Utah?
Speaker 5: I wasn't going to go to Mike Leach's to tech. Okay,
Speaker 5: I signed there at a high school. Leachs was, you know,
Speaker 5: he's in the I got an interesting family, right, We're
Speaker 5: from San Diego. We're working in Tijuana and we're working
Speaker 5: in the other places. We were contractors and so always
Speaker 5: making networks everywhere. And uncle Mine Kurt Salisbury his brother
Speaker 5: actually Brett Salisbury's mof coordinator, brother of Sean Salisbury. I
Speaker 5: think you know him. Scott quarterback and he's on the radio. Uh.
Speaker 5: He played rugby with Mike at b YU back in
Speaker 5: the eighties, and so when I was coming out of
Speaker 5: high school, Kirk kind of raised me a little bit, right,
Speaker 5: and I went to a rugby tournament with Mike Leach
Speaker 5: at University Cow. It was a b way. We were union,
Speaker 5: you know, I was sixteen. I got to meet Leach
Speaker 5: and hang out with him for a weekend. He liked
Speaker 5: my tape, so I was going to go there. I
Speaker 5: get off my mission and Leach just one eleve games
Speaker 5: and they didn't give me the extension. The whole thing
Speaker 5: with Adam and then the Adam James thing came up
Speaker 5: next year. But my dad was like, hey, you might
Speaker 5: want to read between the lines. He's probably not going
Speaker 5: to be there much longer. So my brother was walking
Speaker 5: onto Utah as a basketball player and a football player
Speaker 5: a j Riley you know, seven and eight, excuse me,
Speaker 5: and so they knew who he was and they said,
Speaker 5: my brother said, hey, my Trevor is available. And so
Speaker 5: I came off my mission and I opened my recruiting
Speaker 5: and it was the UCLA with Norm Chow Utah or
Speaker 5: Leech at Tech, and so I chose Utah. They had
Speaker 5: Paul Krueger just graduated and coach. But told me, he says,
Speaker 5: this is where we see you being the guy. And
Speaker 5: so that's kind of how that went. Dude in the
Speaker 5: scalley arrange with a guy named Steve mcdonne, I told
Speaker 5: this last week, set up a meeting in Saint George,
Speaker 5: and the rest is history. But I got to you
Speaker 5: kind of on the back door deal. I was, you know,
Speaker 5: it was a push forward. I was kind of basically
Speaker 5: a walk on.
Speaker 2: What was Mike Leach like?
Speaker 3: Because I love to listen to him, interview him during
Speaker 3: the PAC twelve Days like he was just I wanted
Speaker 3: to go spend like a week with Mike Leach.
Speaker 5: So funny story, Okay, I want to hear my uncle
Speaker 5: Ketho and he's talking to brother telling stories about the
Speaker 5: time Mike Leach invited my uncle Keith and Uncle Kurt
Speaker 5: to come to Loveock to present their Pop Worner football
Speaker 5: offense to him. I swear to you, just told me
Speaker 5: a story. Okay, he says, put it up on the board.
Speaker 5: So they're up there and they're dissecting our twelve year.
Speaker 6: Old Pop Warner football k And so he's that type
Speaker 6: of guy right when I when I committed to him,
Speaker 6: I was it was it was in La or something,
Speaker 6: and he calls me and my uncle's on the phone
Speaker 6: and by the end of the conversation it was like
Speaker 6: a half hour.
Speaker 5: He's talking to me about wild blueberries in Norway. Was
Speaker 5: there a very interesting guy. I think he went with
Speaker 5: the flow. I went visiting a Mississippi state and he
Speaker 5: showed up like the practice every day and then the
Speaker 5: team as soon as he showed up late, they stopped
Speaker 5: the practice. Every player on the team to start clapping
Speaker 5: for him and cheering form so complete players coach definite
Speaker 5: cowboy from Cody, Wyoming And he was a great guy
Speaker 5: to me, dude, always nice, always took the time when
Speaker 5: we needed to hire it at Jackson State, Dion had
Speaker 5: me reach out to him and within hours we had
Speaker 5: to Brett Barbloni, another guy as recommendations, and then he
Speaker 5: invited us out to go visit him. So very open guy,
Speaker 5: very caring and always was nice to me. And again
Speaker 5: he invites my uncles to go out and present their
Speaker 5: Pop Warner offense while he's coaching at Texas Tech. Just
Speaker 5: a crazy fun guy. Now.
Speaker 2: So a funny story about Mike Leach.
Speaker 3: After my second year with the Miami Dolphins, I played
Speaker 3: in the World League in the offseason with the Miami
Speaker 3: at the Orlando Thunder and he was recruiting and came
Speaker 3: through Florida and stopped at our practice and watching because
Speaker 3: we ran a no huddle offense and we ran a
Speaker 3: spread offense essentially like back Galen Hall was our coach,
Speaker 3: and we had a wristband. We just called the places
Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage. And he goes, that's what
Speaker 3: I want to do, and he says that that was
Speaker 3: the catalyst that started his whole air raid spread offense.
Speaker 5: On that drive down there, he told me, yeah.
Speaker 2: And that that and I was playing for the team
Speaker 2: back then and that was fun. So he was he
Speaker 2: was great. What's that?
Speaker 5: But let me ask you that about that offense? Who
Speaker 5: was the person on your guys staff that was pushing
Speaker 5: that offense? Do you remember?
Speaker 2: It was Galen Hall.
Speaker 3: So Galen had been the Yeah, he'd been the coach
Speaker 3: at at Florida and it's a very offensive minded guy.
Speaker 3: Had spent a lot of time with actually Joe Paterno
Speaker 3: at at Penn State and so and we just had
Speaker 3: like we very very rarely ran the football. It was
Speaker 3: very fun. I had a blast one of the funnest times.
Speaker 3: In fact, you you played for the Stallions the Salt
Speaker 3: Lakes staff, Yes, and it was a similar type of thing. Oh,
Speaker 3: I just loved I loved it, and I was just
Speaker 3: pulling so so hard for that league to actually succeed.
Speaker 3: And I just have a tender heart for spring football
Speaker 3: and all that stuff because it made a huge difference
Speaker 3: for me in my career.
Speaker 2: I went back to the game, got totally.
Speaker 5: About when you play, and I played right. It was
Speaker 5: me Silver Slinga, Mike Purcell, A lot of the Utah
Speaker 5: Wyoming guys were on this team, right, and we killed
Speaker 5: it on defense because our minds were free We just
Speaker 5: loved to play. It was fun to play it, man.
Speaker 5: I remember John Peace told me when he got out
Speaker 5: of the military and was done playing, he came back
Speaker 5: and was getting his degree at Westminster. He played on
Speaker 5: a scrimmage team for him and they used to go
Speaker 5: on practicing people and in his late twenties. Wow, And
Speaker 5: I asked him, said why'd you do? They said, I
Speaker 5: just love to play, man, I just love to play.
Speaker 5: So that energy then when you're around it, right, that
Speaker 5: just the walk on energy that called they'll play for
Speaker 5: free type guys.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: I love those type of dudes.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: I love the atmosphere.
Speaker 3: It was a fun time, it really was. I get
Speaker 3: it all right. Well, I'm gonna let you go. Really
Speaker 3: enjoyed this. Good luck with practice tonight, and hopefully we'll
Speaker 3: see you around soon.
Speaker 2: And be'st luck to you. Really enjoyed this today though.
Speaker 5: Thank you, yes, mister Mitchell, and always good to talk
Speaker 5: to you. We'll talk to you soon.
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