WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:04.879 At Utah today, thirty one days until kickoff the Utes 2 00:00:04.919 --> 00:00:09.160 faith UCLA in the Rose Bowl August thirtieth. Interviews are 3 00:00:09.240 --> 00:00:13.320 up at ESPN seven hundred sports dot Com. Coverage of 4 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:15.720 fall camp on the Hill brought to you today by 5 00:00:15.880 --> 00:00:21.039 Beer Bar. The Cincinnati Bengals released running back Zach Moss 6 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:24.039 this morning. The former Youth started training camp on the 7 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:28.039 non football injury list after suffering a season ending neck 8 00:00:28.079 --> 00:00:32.119 injury last season. Moss and Cincinnati agreed to a restructured 9 00:00:32.159 --> 00:00:35.880 deal earlier this year, guaranteeing a partial payout on the 10 00:00:35.920 --> 00:00:40.799 one point seven million dollar agreement. Henryal sal leg is 11 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:44.079 back in action tonight for phase one of League's Cup 12 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:47.960 play in Sandy. RSL takes on the club Amery Coop 13 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:52.280 at seven thirty with your Sports Center update. I Importer 14 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:55.719 Larsen on Utah's number one sports Talk. You're listening to 15 00:00:55.960 --> 00:00:59.679 ESPN seven hundred ninety two point one FM at ESPN 16 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:20.439 seven hundred sports dot com. 17 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:14.040 For the latest news on the University of Utah. 18 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:16.239 Keep it locked right here on the home of the 19 00:01:16.359 --> 00:01:17.840 Utes and Utah's. 20 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:20.840 Number one sports Talk, ESPN seven hundred. 21 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:34.799 I've always been crazy in the trouble that it's putting 22 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:41.519 me through. Then thested, the things. 23 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:44.200 That I did and I didn't do. 24 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:53.400 I can't say I'm proud all things that I've done, 25 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:59.560 but I can't say I've never read. 26 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:08.599 Alrighty, sports fans, welcome back. 27 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:10.120 It is the Drive with Spence. 28 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:13.000 Check it's here on ESPN seven hundred ninety two one FM, 29 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:15.520 you Tells number one Sports Talk. I'm Scott Mitchell filling 30 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:18.960 in for Spence all week. I'm here all week. I'm 31 00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:22.000 here twice on Saturday. And enjoy the HDL and make 32 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:25.479 sure to tip your watter. I'm excited about what's going. 33 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:25.960 To happen right now. 34 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:28.120 I'll tell you that much we have with us none 35 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:32.680 other than Trevor Riley, former Utah Great and former NFL 36 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:39.520 player and former coach, current coach, former coach, Trevor, Welcome 37 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:40.039 to the show. 38 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:41.000 How are you doing today? 39 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:43.520 Well, I just want to say, mister Mitchell, it's an 40 00:02:43.560 --> 00:02:46.039 honorous speak to a legend. I'm doing very very well. 41 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:46.759 How you doing? 42 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:49.800 You know, I'm living a dream and it's not a nightmare. 43 00:02:49.879 --> 00:02:52.840 So I feel like I'm up one, you know, on 44 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:53.520 the competition. 45 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:55.919 Here a little bit. What are you up to these days? 46 00:02:56.240 --> 00:03:00.520 Well, ain't that's the question today? Mark two is football 47 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:03.159 practice to that of six forty five UTA Islanders at 48 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:06.000 Zions Banks Stadium in Herriman. We we've got to know 49 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:08.639 college in about twenty five days. August twenty third. 50 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:12.199 Oh, very very very nice. How good for you? Well, 51 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:13.960 thanks for joining the show. I appreciate it. 52 00:03:14.639 --> 00:03:16.759 Well, it's great to be here. I want to ask 53 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:19.439 you a question, Scott quickly getting into it? What do 54 00:03:19.439 --> 00:03:21.240 you think of Utah's quarterback? I got to ask you. 55 00:03:21.240 --> 00:03:22.479 I went and saw him the other day. I have 56 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:24.319 asked you questions. I want to think, Well, what you 57 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:25.960 take on this guy? I don't know much about him. 58 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:27.919 I'm kind of not being the loop. Can you fill 59 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:29.039 me in? What do you think of this kid? 60 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:35.360 Well, let me tell you about Devon dam Pier. You know, 61 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:38.840 the quarterback right lee or wrongly, has such an impact 62 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:43.319 on the outcome of games, and even more so in college. 63 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:46.680 And what I like about Devon Dampier is that he 64 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:51.120 really is a multifaceted player. He can manufacture offense in 65 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:53.479 a lot of different ways. He has the best sack 66 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:57.240 ratio of any player in college football, so it doesn't 67 00:03:57.240 --> 00:04:00.719 get sacked very often. He's very elusive. He's a he's 68 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:03.759 a smart runner, you know. I think I think, uh, 69 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:07.639 Cam Rising maybe wasn't a smart runner. You know, he 70 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:10.439 liked to run into trouble and uh, you know, which 71 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:12.360 was you know, part of what made him great too. 72 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:16.480 But uh uh and Devin control the ball fairly effective. 73 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:20.360 So you know, I believe he's a catalyst for Utah 74 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:23.879 to be being able to be more explosive and score 75 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:27.000 more points on offense. And and if you if you 76 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:30.040 do that, then then the team certainly is going to 77 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:32.720 have a very very good year this year. I don't 78 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:34.720 I don't see it being a real big problem that 79 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:37.319 he's kind of moving up, you know, in a in 80 00:04:37.399 --> 00:04:40.439 a tier of sports. You know, I think he's you know, 81 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:42.959 because he's a really good athlete. He'll adjust to everything. 82 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:47.639 He's got some good people around him. Offensive line wide 83 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:51.079 receiver position is still kind of up for grabs. But uh, 84 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:53.120 I think he's going to have a huge impact on 85 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:53.920 on the team this year. 86 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:54.399 I really do. 87 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:59.000 Well. I appreciate kill me and I'm asking because I'm 88 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:02.680 going to be going to practic this tomorrow sometime next week. 89 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:04.800 I'm gonna be looking at the kid we're running the 90 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:08.199 spread offense in our team, and I know, Utah, it's 91 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:10.680 gonna be well a newbie but really an oldie if 92 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:13.040 you go back to Irber and the other stuff. The 93 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:15.920 spread offense. Man, you know, I'm just I'm learning a 94 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:17.759 little bit about it and where I've heard about this 95 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:19.720 kid because he's a winner. I know they won five 96 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:22.759 games last year in Mexico Movie four, but not an 97 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:24.600 easy place to win. And I hear that this kid 98 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.800 has the intangibles. This is a little short but I'm 99 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:29.279 interested to see. You know, I know, I know how 100 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:31.160 big you are, Skuy. I know you know, in the 101 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:34.160 old school offenses that was kind of a premium. So 102 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:36.120 I'm interested to see how it works. You know, he's 103 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:38.839 the shorter guy, but they're running the more spread, open offense. 104 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:43.079 I think I'm interested to see if it works. Honestly, 105 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:44.839 this is a new before it's been a while since 106 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:45.720 we run this offense. 107 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:49.000 I think it worked. Here's the thing about offense. I'll 108 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:52.199 just get I'll just enlighten you. Okay, it's really simple. 109 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:55.279 You just pick a guy and let it fly. That 110 00:05:55.399 --> 00:05:58.399 was the best advice I ever got, and and it 111 00:05:58.480 --> 00:06:01.560 was really good advice. And then the other advice was, 112 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:04.279 no matter how good your defense is, you can't beat 113 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:04.920 a perfect throw. 114 00:06:05.319 --> 00:06:06.360 So that's the truth. 115 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:07.399 That's all you gotta do. 116 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:10.199 You just just make a perfect throw and pick a 117 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:13.680 guy and just let it fly and everything else will happen. 118 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:14.120 All right. 119 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:16.399 I have to ask you this. I I have been 120 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:19.639 wanting to ask you this question for some time now. 121 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:21.399 I need I need to understand. Are you on an 122 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:24.120 NDA where you can't talk about your experience of Colorado? 123 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:25.079 Or can you? Can? 124 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:27.319 You? I can talk about I mean, yeah, I can 125 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:29.560 talk about it. I don't like to hide anything, right, 126 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:33.279 absolutely if it's if it's fair game, they all talked 127 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:33.759 about it. 128 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:36.439 So what was what was Deon like? 129 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:39.399 Because he's fascinating to me because he's so flashy, you know, 130 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:41.120 and he's so kind of in your face, but there's 131 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:43.959 a lot of substance there, and I really like a 132 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:45.879 lot of things that he says and does. 133 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:49.199 What was it really like coaching with him? 134 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:55.240 I would say that a NFL guy, he's about appliche 135 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:02.480 about that, that's kind of a moniker or a character 136 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:05.480 when he's in the public light. But at the same time, 137 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:10.480 he really wants to help these kids. So his heart 138 00:07:10.759 --> 00:07:13.120 and the message behind closed doors is always about the 139 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:17.360 kids first. And even with the you know, when you 140 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:19.399 talk about football stuff, he wants to take care of 141 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:21.600 the kids, like players, like like like pros. I mean, 142 00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:24.920 so it's the whole, the whole conversation is always about 143 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:28.000 kids with him. Now, some of the extracurricular stuff people 144 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:31.519 get excited about, I look at it more like the WWE. 145 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:34.120 You know, football and Twitter and the Internet in general 146 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:37.759 is a platform for characters, and I think Dion plays 147 00:07:37.800 --> 00:07:39.879 the role as well as he can. He's trying to 148 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:42.240 enact change in his you know, the communities that he 149 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:45.279 grew up in and coming to Colorado, Scott. You know, 150 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:48.480 that's not the most urban setting or the most his 151 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:51.279 black people just there's not a lot of them there. Okay, 152 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:53.959 He's bringing a whole different type of message to a 153 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:57.759 group of people, and it's it's an interesting thing to watch. 154 00:07:57.839 --> 00:07:59.839 It's kind of like, you know, it's machine learning. It's 155 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:03.199 too totally different types of machines interacting. And I'm a 156 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:05.519 big fan of Dion. Uh. You know, everybody has their 157 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:08.199 faults or problems, especially me. I'm not anyone to say that. 158 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:11.240 So whenever people are critical of anybody. I'm always you know, 159 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:13.800 what's the the big general message with him as he 160 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:15.439 wants to help kids, and I think he's put his 161 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:16.360 money where his mouth is. 162 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:19.079 I'm glad to hear that because I do. I like 163 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:21.600 a lot of what he says, and I can resonate 164 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:24.399 with a lot of it. So it is fascinating. Speaking 165 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:28.399 of of Dion, He's hired Marshall Fall Hall of Famer, 166 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:33.759 Warren Sapp Hall of Famer, Byron Lefwich, longtime NFL quarterback, 167 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:38.279 Super Bowl champion himself. He surrounded himself with a bunch 168 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:40.960 of Hall of Fame NFL players. Is that a good 169 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:44.679 Is that a good thing? Does that work? Having all 170 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:48.000 these because there's kind of maybe this, well, NFL players 171 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:50.279 they don't really want to, you know, spend the time 172 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:52.240 and put in the hours. 173 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:54.440 Like a like a coach has to do. Maybe they're 174 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:56.840 a little bit of prima donna. What what? What? 175 00:08:56.840 --> 00:09:00.600 What do you feel about hiring of signific an amount 176 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:04.480 of high profile former NFL players? 177 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:07.799 Well, I think it's definitely a double edged short because 178 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.879 a lot of times, as players that we get ready 179 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:13.519 for we can get ourselves ready for the game right 180 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:15.720 when you talking about getting ten other people ready, that's 181 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:19.279 a whole other animal. Sometimes personal rore teams don't cross over. 182 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:22.399 With all that being said, Warren Staff was fantastic a 183 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:26.240 short time I spent with him. He was fantastic, inspiring, informative. 184 00:09:27.279 --> 00:09:31.960 Now to your point about NFL guys, right, especially some 185 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:33.799 Hall of famers, they're not going to get coffee and 186 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:36.799 they they've paid their dues to the game in that regard, 187 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:40.720 and that sometimes doesn't sit well with coaches. But you 188 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:42.200 and I were in the NFL, dude, and you if 189 00:09:42.200 --> 00:09:43.759 you're a Hall of Famer, you walk into a room 190 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:46.279 of football guys and you're the guy. And so that's 191 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:49.960 kind of a thing where with Warren, with Marshall, with 192 00:09:49.960 --> 00:09:53.399 with Prime, I think Prime, you know, as Prime always says, 193 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:55.200 even in the Hall of Fame, there's levels to it, right, 194 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:58.639 I think Prime is probably in the penthouse of the 195 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:01.960 first team. All a history of the NFL is probably 196 00:10:02.600 --> 00:10:05.200 question so in that room, right, he still carries a 197 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:07.519 little bit of weight. There's still a little bit of reverence. 198 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:09.759 Right when Dion says something with football, it's like that's 199 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:11.240 Deion Sanders, Dude. 200 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:17.639 So back when you played for some reason I got 201 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:19.399 in the first segment I got, I went, I went 202 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:22.679 kind of down memory lane a little bit, and there 203 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:24.000 was one of the things that popped in my head. 204 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:24.799 I didn't say it on the. 205 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:29.399 Radio, but I remember a time when coach Sula, who 206 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:32.600 was pretty hard nosed, and you played for a guy 207 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:36.120 Bilichick who was pretty hard nosed well, and Winningham was 208 00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:44.120 no you know, uh aqual either. But Coachula one year said, hey, 209 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:47.519 all the veteran players can stay home during training camp, 210 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:51.200 and but if we have any issues, then you're all 211 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:54.240 back in the dorm. So we have this big meeting, like, 212 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:58.960 you know, hey, don't screw this up. Like Coachula doesn't 213 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:00.919 do stuff like this. This is nice that we can 214 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:04.399 stay home. And so, you know, we go two or 215 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:07.320 three days and the guy guy messes up big time, 216 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:12.000 really bad. And he in fact, he he didn't show 217 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:16.240 up one day for practice and and he didn't show 218 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:19.080 up till six o'clock that night, and he made up this, 219 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:22.440 He made up the story that he was kidnapped and 220 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:25.080 he and he was taken out into the Everglace. 221 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:27.039 Such like Miami, I got a story like this to 222 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:30.720 keep going, keep going. Could happen? 223 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:31.519 No it did. 224 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:33.879 So it's just like this guy's in the ever He 225 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:35.639 says that they took me to the Everglades. 226 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:37.480 Really, they took him out in the Everglades. 227 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:39.840 He took his car, he had to walk back, and 228 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:42.919 so so the FBI gets involved in this and they 229 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:46.320 start asking questions. They realize this guy's not telling the truth, 230 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:49.080 and so he finally admits the truth. He says, look, 231 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:51.919 I slept in, I panicked. I didn't want to mess 232 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:53.559 it up for the team, so I made up this 233 00:11:53.639 --> 00:11:57.039 story that I got I got kidd So so back 234 00:11:57.039 --> 00:12:00.159 in the dorms we go, and the team was so 235 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:02.279 furious with this guy that they taped him to a 236 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:02.960 palm tree. 237 00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:04.639 Oh my goodness. 238 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:06.879 And he and he and he was out there, you 239 00:12:06.919 --> 00:12:08.879 know with the with the athletic tape, you know they 240 00:12:08.919 --> 00:12:12.279 tape your ankles. They this guy do a palm tree 241 00:12:12.919 --> 00:12:15.320 for he was and he was out there all night long. 242 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:19.320 Did you ever have any crazy things like that happened 243 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:20.759 when you played in the NFL. 244 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:23.279 Well, I gotta tell you. College was a little college. 245 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:26.320 We had more of that stuff. Okay, okay, college was 246 00:12:27.919 --> 00:12:30.000 and it got cleaned up as we got older. Okay, 247 00:12:30.039 --> 00:12:32.039 but you know there was a lot of that hazing, 248 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:36.000 but it would say we were just wild man, you know, 249 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:39.759 twenty years ago, fifteen years ago, guys would do wild stuff. Yeah, 250 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:42.840 And in the NFL, we saw a little bit of 251 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:45.080 that carries your helmets here there. And I saw rookie 252 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:47.080 dinner in Miami. I was playing for the Dolphins. I 253 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:48.480 saw a lot of stuff in Miami. I was only 254 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:51.120 there for six Then I saw some crazy stuff in Miami. 255 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:55.080 But we had a rookie dinner where you know I was. 256 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:56.480 I was in a rookie but I was there. And 257 00:12:56.519 --> 00:12:58.559 this is the end of the season and one of 258 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:00.279 the one of the vets, right, Hall of Fame guy, 259 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:03.679 he's the table. He talks about thirty five rand. He says, 260 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:05.799 give me five thousand dollars your finest wine to go. 261 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:07.759 It's not high. I want to get to four thousands. 262 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:10.879 He walked out. So you see, while I saw a 263 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:14.679 guy in Miami one time, a linebacker. He didn't show 264 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:17.600 up for the first game. Okay, we're in la he 265 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:20.080 goes missing. I mean, that doesn't happen. Then we find 266 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:22.720 out he's flown out to his former team. And this 267 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:24.639 is all during the week of the game. So any 268 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:26.840 story you tell me about Miami Dolphins, Scott, I gotta 269 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:29.080 tell you. I believe you. And they made a movie 270 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:30.720 about it, didn't Jim Carrey, wasn't he in a movie 271 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:34.039 The spintera pep Detective. Wasn't about somebody that the Dolphins? 272 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:37.759 Well it was it was Dan Marino and that someone 273 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:40.919 stole the Miami Dolphin mascot the Dolphins. 274 00:13:40.960 --> 00:13:43.000 There you go, who done it? Okay? And I got 275 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:46.279 to tell you the Dolphins just because I described Miami. 276 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.440 I see, it's like Las Vegas and La had a baby. 277 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:54.200 Dude, you know what that is a perfect why that is? Yeah, 278 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:55.600 I was just going to say this is you know, 279 00:13:55.799 --> 00:13:58.600 they say what state. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, 280 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:00.559 and Miami's probably didn't times worse. 281 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:03.120 So dude, I went to spring Bak there one time. 282 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:05.080 Let me tell you what. Those can't tell the stories here, 283 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:07.120 but you see wild stuff. And just like I saw that, 284 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.960 I didn't. I just show that the NFL was wild, 285 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:12.759 but Miami was. I was in New York, Miami, in Boston, Miami, 286 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:14.600 and the short time I was there was the wildest. 287 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:15.799 It's crazy. 288 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:19.919 So training camps have started you know fall camp at 289 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:23.279 the U has started. How did you like camp? What 290 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:26.840 was your what was your take on going back to football? 291 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:31.240 I would say I'm the last of the generation of 292 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:34.840 two a days. Okay, they ended my the year after 293 00:14:34.879 --> 00:14:36.559 I left. They didn't allow them anymore. I think it 294 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:41.000 was twenty fifteen. Wow, we had two days. And I 295 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:42.840 know the old days were harder. They always were harder 296 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:44.159 in the old days, right They always say that, but 297 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:46.480 go ahead. 298 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:49.360 I just said, of course, yeah, I agree with you. 299 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:52.399 So there's always the stories of that. But I remember 300 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:55.440 camp being a time to compete. So there was always 301 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:58.159 jobs and for whatever reason, they always tried to replacement. 302 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:01.759 You saw it was and it was a good thing 303 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:05.080 because we're bringing good players, right right, so Nate Orchard, right, 304 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:06.960 we were bringing in guys behind me or I was like, 305 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:10.279 and so James Iono. There was a lot of guys 306 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:12.879 that I was always for me. Camp was a time 307 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:15.480 where I had to fight, all right, that was fight time. 308 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:18.039 That was the time to go. I had to whoop 309 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:20.480 some people's butts to make sure and this is my spot, 310 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:22.720 you get what I'm saying. So there was a you 311 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:26.919 don't really compete against the offense or the opponent. You're 312 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:30.480 competing against the offense, and you're competing as an eventsive 313 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:33.840 player against your competition by seeing who can fight harder. 314 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:36.519 And I'm interested to see that. I want to see 315 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:38.960 that fight in this team this year, Scott. I got 316 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:40.919 to tell you they lost a quarterback last year, and 317 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:43.480 I thought they powered a little bit. I thought we 318 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:44.879 had more in the tank than what we gave and 319 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:47.360 so I think coach would agree with that. The message 320 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:49.159 this year is we're going to they should fight. We 321 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:51.720 got to fight for every down, every inch we freaking play. 322 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:53.679 I want to say that you'd fight it out like 323 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:54.720 we used to, you know what I mean. 324 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:58.519 Yeah, it's a good observation because I would agree with you. 325 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:03.279 And there just wasn't There wasn't that determination. And you 326 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:07.000 have to wonder because you know, coach Whittingham's done such 327 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:10.200 a great job there and culture and and uh and 328 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:14.120 having that fight and uh and and it felt like 329 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:16.559 he almost slipped up and said, hey, you know, he goes. 330 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:20.240 I couldn't end my career on what happened last year. 331 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:23.000 So it almost sounded like he was ready to retire. 332 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:27.120 And you wonder if maybe subconsciously he was a little 333 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:29.279 bit more relaxed because maybe he thought he was going 334 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:32.159 to retire. And uh, and and and because I don't 335 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:34.879 get a sense from the team this year that they're like, oh, 336 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:37.159 you know that there seems to be a sense of urgency. 337 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:38.919 There does seem to be a lot of fight and 338 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:41.440 a lot of a lot of players for a lot 339 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:44.440 of reasons. But uh, I just wonder if that that 340 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:45.679 might have something to do with it. 341 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:46.080 I don't know. 342 00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:48.879 I think that Scott. You know this now that they're 343 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:51.320 a pro organization, they're making plans two and three years 344 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:53.960 in advance. They want to win now, right, Yeah, but 345 00:16:54.039 --> 00:16:57.080 when you're buying freshmen, Okay, so everybody has to listen 346 00:16:57.080 --> 00:16:59.600 to this. Now, when you're paying rookies, you're buying freshmen, 347 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:02.960 you're paying for development, you're buying you're buying your time 348 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:06.119 right right, you're waiting to see. So it's a fine line. 349 00:17:06.279 --> 00:17:08.359 Last year they went all in on the quarterback, right, 350 00:17:08.440 --> 00:17:10.240 and not a bad move. You've got a fifth year, 351 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:12.680 sixth you guy coming back, you got Keithy coming back. 352 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:14.799 This is a veteran team. So they thought by the 353 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:17.000 end of the season they were a m team because 354 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:19.400 of the injuries, and because of what had happened, I 355 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:21.720 would say Kyle was not ready because he would probably 356 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:24.440 consider this, you know, maybe he was ready to retire. 357 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:26.359 Because if I'm looking at it and I haven't told 358 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:28.920 me so, I'm looking at it from an organization standpoint, 359 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:32.440 that's the peak. The peak they're supposed to return the 360 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:34.440 investment on that year. Does that make sense with the 361 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:37.160 quarterback and all the guys returning, that was the year 362 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:39.559 where the full investment return was supposed to comment. It 363 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:43.599 was a complete disaster, obviously due to injuries among other things. 364 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:48.720 Speaking of coach Witting, m what's your least favorite memory 365 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:49.440 of coach Witting? 366 00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:52.960 Oh? For sure, when we used to roll. They don't 367 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:55.720 do that here anymore, but I always care when we 368 00:17:55.759 --> 00:17:59.519 had to roll. They used to roll. Its old school military. 369 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:02.440 He didn't high school too, but we used to roll. 370 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:04.480 It was the thing in football. And that was the 371 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:07.599 worst memory I ever had a coach. Okay, running if 372 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:09.480 we ever were late or did something really bad, you know, 373 00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:12.359 rolling was always last resort. It was like if a 374 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:16.559 guy refused to come to practice or missing study hall 375 00:18:16.599 --> 00:18:19.000 three or four times. That was my worst memory, though 376 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:21.079 it was a ute was always having to roll because 377 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:23.480 I was afraid it was only I couldn't beat everybody out. 378 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:26.559 I would get motion sickness. But other than that, I 379 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:28.559 had a great time with Coach. I liked the toughness. 380 00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:30.599 I thought it was good for us. I liked everything 381 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:30.920 about it. 382 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:35.759 Honestly, hold on a second. When you say roll, would 383 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:38.400 you like just do somersaults and roll? 384 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:40.440 And they used to roll on the side. There wasn't 385 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:43.559 like long, long gated rolls, roll for fifty yards, roll 386 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:47.000 for one hundred yards, nothing. That was just roll on 387 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:50.359 your side. But what it was was just mental toughness, 388 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:53.680 his old school marine training. Again, I don't do that anymore. 389 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:55.119 They I've done it for a number of years. But 390 00:18:55.839 --> 00:19:00.519 that was, you know, that was That was my least 391 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:03.279 favorite memory of Coach. And other than that, and it 392 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:05.279 wasn't even that bad, right, we're just rolling. It wasn't 393 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:08.680 like it was. But other than that, I Coach was 394 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:10.519 pretty fair, all right. If you talked to him and 395 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:12.720 really have a real conversation, I think people will find 396 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:14.960 it Coach leading him as a parent guy. 397 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:19.559 What what what? What? Why'd you go to Utah? 398 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:21.920 I wasn't going to go to Mike Leach's to tech. Okay, 399 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:25.319 I signed there at a high school. Leachs was, you know, 400 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:28.440 he's in the I got an interesting family, right, We're 401 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:31.839