Speaker 1: Welcome back to Sasquatch Theory. Today, I'm joined by Mark
and Roberta to discuss a series of experiences that Mark
says began while deer hunting in Oklahoma during the nineteen eighties.
Before we begin, I want to mention that this interview
contained some very extraordinary claims. Some aspects of Mark's story
go far beyond the typical bigfoot encounter and may be
difficult for many people to believe. My goal of Sasquatch
Theory has always been to provide a platform where people
can share their personal experiences in their own words. I
don't claim to know what happened, and I don't ask
my audience to accept every details fact. Instead, I encourage
everyone to listen with an open mind, think critically, and
come to their own conclusions. With that being said, let's
hear Mark and Roberta's story from the state of Oklahoma.
All right, Roberta, Mark, Welcome to Sasquatch Theory. How are
you guys doing today?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 1: That is absolutely amazing, and I am so glad to
hear that. If you would put me in your shoes
and walk me through every single experience that you've had
throughout your life.
Speaker 2: I'm Mark Rutlidge and I lived in Oklahoma and my
siding was in eighty three and I had another siding
in ninety three, but in eighty three.
Speaker 4: It started in eighty two. It was me and my dad.
We went hunting.
Speaker 2: Elgin, Hansas is right there on the border of Oklahoma.
And we got there Friday and glen sed open Saturday,
and so we was there and uh, it rained. It
rained Saturday all day, and so we was watching it rain,
and so it finally stopped that evening, and so we
went down right there on the border and there's a
big field and we went in there and we saw
an Oklahoma uh one of those that sticks in the
ground and says Oklahoma Wildlife Conservation. And we was talking
about it, and so I I told Dad, I was
just going down and.
Speaker 4: Look to this area.
Speaker 2: And so when I got up there, I heard this
truck hank his horn and I look and it looked
like a ranger. So I got down and I started
walking in my clip elme Agun.
Speaker 4: I got my my.
Speaker 2: I was safed up and I was walking out there
and my dad was talking to the guys and I
got up there. I said, what's the matter. He said, guys,
you know you're in Kansas.
Speaker 4: I said what I said, No, I got a map.
Speaker 2: And so my dad said, come here, guys, I'm going
to show you something.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: And he showed you that thing, and I can't believe it.
They looked at me and him and I saw that
and they said, oh my god. We wrote Hicketts. I
mean Hicketts on the out here and I said, well,
that's wrong. Here, it's Oklahoma.
Speaker 4: So after that.
Speaker 2: We went to our our there was a little small
camp there, and we was talking about the guys and
he wanted to go to this place. So, okay, we
went to this place and there was probably four guys
was coming out of doves. You know, they killed a
doe and he was hauling it up.
Speaker 4: Were sitting there. Uh. He had an overhead camper.
Speaker 2: And I said, man, this is a good place, dad,
And so we you know, sit there.
Speaker 4: And I got out.
Speaker 2: And and he stayed in because you know, he likes
to go and.
Speaker 4: Eat and talk and all that.
Speaker 2: So I went and uh, I climbed up in this
free and uh, and I was looking around and so
it was kind of getting late, and I thought, I
uh seen something, so I got down and I.
Speaker 4: Walked on in. Well.
Speaker 2: The next year is eighty three. So we it was
me and my dad and my two brothers and we
was there and that night, uh it seemed like it
was real. Uh.
Speaker 4: I was my dad and me was up on top.
Speaker 2: My brothers was on the side, and it yeah, you know,
I heard like a uh siren.
Speaker 4: And I mean it's like really, I mean it.
Speaker 2: It sounded like it was out there and and I
was uh yelling, and my dad my brother thought I
was having a nightmare. And so they finally got me
calm down. I said, I said, you didn't hear him, no, mark,
he was having a nightmare. And so my brother he
shot one a flat point and he took it home.
And that night man dad was sitting there and my
dad saw.
Speaker 4: A big old buck.
Speaker 2: He said, there's a big old buck and it was
crossing and uh at night, I said, okay. So that
morning I was we went back home and the the
it was dough day and I was at work and
I was going to take h you know, half day off,
and my boss said, is about nine o'clock right time?
Speaker 4: He said, March is gone.
Speaker 2: I said, okay, So I had my stuff and that
in the car with me. And on the way up there,
I got out of Barsville, probably eight miles and I
had the radio on. Now I listened rock and roll
and it just it was just plain as clear. All
of a sudden, the radio stopped and this girl said, hurry, Mark, hurry,
hurry in my foot. Somehow I just came down and
I don't know how fast I was going, but I
got there about.
Speaker 4: Before twelve o'clock.
Speaker 2: And I had a lunch and I thought, I'll go
out there. And I found this spot and I was
looking around. I thought, okay, you know, I got the
wind to myself and it looked good. So I was
sitting there, you ate my lunch, and after I ate,
I had to go to the bathroom. So I went
to the bathroom and you know, I hid my thing
and I covered it up, and so I said, and
the relaxing, and all of a sudden I heard, you know,
like a twig break, and I was going to turn around,
and she goes, don't turn around, and I said why,
And you know, she said, I'm ugly. I said, in
God's eye, and nobody's ugly. And we was talking and
I uh, in my pack. I said, uh, you want
to eat a snicker? I said, you know, she said yeah.
So I gave her and she was going to put
it in her mouth, and I uh raised my head
up there and I took it away from her and
then piled the paper and I gave her and she goes.
She just smiled. She goes, I mean, her little lips
just came, you know, real wide. And I said, okay.
And you know, she gave me. It was like too
leaves and she kind of rolled them up and she
goes here and it was kind of tart, and I said,
oh good. And you know, she asked me, she goes
where you live? And I show her, you know, in
a house, and I live in a big, you know,
big city, and so I said, well, where do you live?
And she said, it's not far from here. I said, okay.
And when she at first before that, when I asked her,
she pointed, she pointed at me and then up to
the sky or I don't know if I got that reverse.
She pointed the sky or me, and she said, you
want to see.
Speaker 4: Where I lived? I said, yeah, sure, if it's not
too far. She goes, no, it's not far. And so
she said, here, grab my hand.
Speaker 2: I grabbed my hand, and all of a sudden, a light,
bright light, and she said, don't be afraid.
Speaker 4: I said, I'm afraid.
Speaker 2: And so we went and walked and when we walked through,
it's like an old TV sat. White was steady, and
I was walking through and all of a sudden, I
saw the hut and when I went inside, her mom
she came in and she had a bowl and you know,
she gave me before and I drunk it and it's
real tart and it was good. And after that it
it kind of got it.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I wish I you know, you know hypotis, because I forgot.
But I woke up and the bear rug was over me,
bear uh bear skin, and I pulled it away and
I put.
Speaker 4: My stuff on and I pulled my arm.
Speaker 2: The bear skin was covering the door, and I pulled
my arm and I looked outside and it was still white,
but not steady. And I saw this tall guy and
he had long arms, real thin. He had a loincloth rounding,
and he had long hair, and he was walking beside
It looked like a wolf or a coyote. And they
walked past me and I heard them you know, talk
about me, and she really wanted me. She cried, she
was crying, and I can hear I guess her dad,
and he said no, he was going to dark. No, no.
And so I a little a sudden, I started, uh
in my mind and I hip flashbacks my mom, my
girlfriend and all that, and so I saw where I
came in at. So I just walked on out. And
when I was walking on out, all of a sudden,
it kind of got real colorful and uh black and white.
Speaker 4: It was uh colored. And I picked up my.
Speaker 2: Pack and my gun because she didn't want me to
bring my gun.
Speaker 4: Because they didn't like that.
Speaker 2: So when I got back and got my pack on
and I had to go south to come and pick
up my wind to hear, I was still you know,
hear hunting, and I was kind of when I was walking,
I felt like I was real like drunk or cut
a woe. And I was walking and uh, I knew
where I was going to go. I kept hearing off
and I can hear them say turn, turn, and so
I turned and I knew where I was going because
there was a fencer and I crossed the fence and
there was a rock and I was sitting there and
I had to get some water, and I saw I
was sitting there, and I saw this greenfield about maybe
one hundred and seventy five out and I was kind
of watching it and it's kind of getting late, and
I thought, well, i'll go, and all of a sudden
I smelled something like it real stunk. I mean, it's
like you put a dog or you know, anything like that.
And so I was kind of walking. There's a big
old rock and I stuck up. When I stopped, he
was about thirty yards and at first he looked like
a guy in a gilly suit. And I looked again
real hard, and I can see that hair between twirling
long damn. And he was probably about probably ten foot
and he had his shoulders was real wide. But he
was standing on the west side, so that sun was down,
and it was probably probably almost five o'clock or five
th ever, and the sun was just kind of going down,
but he was standing where the shadow is and I
can picture his feature face and that's all, but the
rest was dark, and I mean, he just went down,
and so I was looking. He was looking, and I
was looking, and I saw a caravan and that was
probably two hundred and fifty yards out and there was
like three groups and one small and one big, and
there was in a single file line and you see
those arms going like that, and there's a spot if
they walk past us plot it was too thick there,
so I, you know, I didn't see them. And so
I heard something on the hill and it sounded like people,
you know, like a girl, boy and a guy, and
all of a sudden that it's like not monkey, but
the monkey talked to.
Speaker 4: Grow up, you know, like that.
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden I looked.
Speaker 4: And there was three of them and.
Speaker 2: They was two of them was side by side, and
then the one was a little bit smaller, and then
the other one.
Speaker 4: And he was probably about seven or eight maybe seven,
and he had.
Speaker 2: Something over his shoulders that it was like a gray fur.
Speaker 4: White black.
Speaker 2: And his eye his face he had three markings and
his cheeks on each side and his his.
Speaker 4: Eyes was out. He had the.
Speaker 2: Rim on the brow and he looked like k Man
or Eskimo or an old Indian. And I said who
are you? And he said go? And so I was
the big one, you know, he was looking over there,
and I looked and I didn't see nothing, and when
I looked again, it was gone. And so I went
on out. And when I was walking right there where
I was sitting at on the other side, about one
hundred and fifty yards, I when I saw he looked
or she, and I raised up my hand and went
high and he he went like that, he raised up
his hand, and so I got to the car, and
I was just beside myself, and I said, I saw
a bigfoot, and nobody's going to believe me, and so
I my brother.
Speaker 4: They he had.
Speaker 2: An another camper and he brought his and my dad
stayed home, and it was my two brothers.
Speaker 4: And when I came back to the camp.
Speaker 2: Laying the truck, and he had his hand over his
head just tight, I mean, moaning, then going. And so
I went to my other one, or my other brother,
and he didn't believe me. I told him the story,
and he goes, well, are you going to hunt tomorrow?
Speaker 4: I said, he'll know. I'm going to go home.
Speaker 2: And so I went home and I got up and
I tell Dad and my mom, and my dad said, well,
just don't go after no more.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's truly incredible. So when the sasquatch grabbed your
hand and took you into the hut. Did you essentially
go through a portal or did it lead you into
the woods into it like a structure area.
Speaker 2: No, it was a portal. It was it was a
bright like a circle light and only outside like a
blue and we went through and it was just like
an old TV set, white with steak.
Speaker 1: Wow. Did it look like what people describe as like
an orbora ball of light?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was watching, you know, I mean I've been
watching all your shows and Bigfoot and since after that,
and and I can I can name you this this
sounds and everything that I heard, it's the same thing.
And I got with Robin and she said they was hunting,
you know they hunt at night, and uh, you know.
Speaker 4: That's uh sound that.
Speaker 2: When I was sitting there, it sound like a big tree,
you know, fell down, and I thought, you know, it's
a pack, I mean, a bunch of deer coming. And
all of a sudden the sound went, and I mean
everything was just the trees and bushes, and so I thought, okay,
so it's coming, you know, it's getting close.
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden I saw I was
like up in the tree.
Speaker 2: And I saw the the buck and he was on
three legs and his he was walking, I mean not fast,
but I mean he was walking and he was after him.
And so all of a sudden, uh, it came closer
to him. When I look down, uh, he was right there.
He goes, oh, I'm sorry. I said, no, it's okay,
I want to shoot the buck. And so he got hoster,
you know, to the fence, and I shot and he
said you game. I said no, I think I shot
him high, but.
Speaker 4: Asked when he said, my.
Speaker 2: My sister wants to talk to you, I said, okay,
that's good, you know fine. So when I was up
there and it sounds like five of them passed me,
he goes out in the tree. You can you know,
hear you know, like deer and that is coming in.
But he stopped and I can hear all of them
passing me.
Speaker 5: Miguel, we have hypnotized or hypnotism that I can send
to you where he was hypnotized us about an hour
and a half long, and it has a lot.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that would be excellent. And when the sasquatch
grabbed your hand, she pointed up at the sky, and
did she say that they came from the stars.
Speaker 2: Well, I said, really from and she pointed, I think
to the to me in to the sky, or it's
the other way around. I think I got the other
way around, but she pointed at me, and then she
pointed at Scott, and I thought the thing was not
from here, but she said you're like us when she
pointed me, So I mean that's how I got it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And what did the female sasquatch look like? Do
you remember the features on her?
Speaker 2: Uh? Her eyes was pretty there was kind of like
a orange.
Speaker 4: Brown looking.
Speaker 3: Did she look like a sasquatch?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she looked like a sketchwatch her Her face was, uh,
you know outside, you know, kind of wrinkle but kind
of dark.
Speaker 5: I have a drawing I can send you also that
someone did off of his description.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that'd be excellent. And how many family members
were there? How many did you see?
Speaker 4: Uh? That they all? Theygether? I was schounting at us
seeing eight, okay.
Speaker 1: And they seem to be kind of tribal, like they
had furs. And I don't know if you described war
paint when you mentioned that it had like three markings
on its face.
Speaker 2: It's not marking is lack a scar three? Okay, Yeah,
so I don't know if that's marking.
Speaker 5: But we went back up to the same spot last weekend,
but as a severe storm rolled in just as we
got there, so we were limited. We soot some fireworks
off for them. Yeah, and we left sneakers of apples.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it kind of reminded me of like when
somebody finds a pet and they want to keep it
and their dad says no, were they wanted to keep you?
Essentially like dad, can we have him? Can we keep it?
Speaker 4: Yeah? She was Brian, she was upset. She really wanted me. Wow.
Speaker 1: And why do you think they chose you specifically to
show you their inner world?
Speaker 2: Well, when I was small, I saw was my grandmother
where my granddad they die or one of them died.
Speaker 4: And I was probably.
Speaker 2: Maybe six years old, and I was in the funeral
problem and everybody was talking and it was kind of boring, so.
Speaker 4: You know, you know, for me, I was always uh curious, curious.
Speaker 2: So I was walking and I saw one of the
doors open, so I walked on down and there was
a coffin And when I was walking down, I noticed
my right hand vision a guy in a suit and
hight here he is in the corner there, and he
didn't say nothing, so I just kind of walked on
down and I kind of looked, and all of a
sudden he was right side of me, and I said something.
I said, he was probably a good guy, and he said, yes,
he was. And I peeped in and when I peeped up,
it was him. And I looked and all of a
sudden he was gone. And I came running out and
my mom said, now, Mark, you need to stay with me.
Speaker 4: Don't get this time. It's like my mama.
Speaker 2: So and then I saw my granddad when I was
going to school and I was going to cross the street,
and when I looked back, he was gone.
Speaker 4: But but after that, after.
Speaker 2: The eighty three sighting, I worked as a security guard
and send me first and Garnet and it was probably
about two o'clock. And you know how the crickets all
that got noise, and if you take a finger and snap,
they just shut off, and all of a sudden, it's
kind of weird.
Speaker 4: And I heard something like.
Speaker 2: A home, a little home, and I kind of looked
up and they looked like bright stars for of them.
In Formation one two three four, and that was going southwest.
And if you take your finger and kind of slowly
go over, that's how fast they is going. And if
I have a CV radio, my buddy, oh they're on
the next block, you know, because hey, hey, look up
and see what you saw.
Speaker 5: But I call that his trifecta, ghost, UFOs and bigfoot.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it seems like the strange unsolved mysteries have
been attracted to Mark all his life, and he's able
to see things that most people aren't able to see
and experience things that most people will never experience. What
else happened after the hunting trip on the Oklahoma.
Speaker 5: Kansas border, Well, he had another siding in ninety three
in a different location.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, tell me about that, and if you would
walk me through the entire thing please.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: It was ninety three and it was in done season
and it was down how they meet you mountains.
Speaker 4: Uh. The town there was.
Speaker 2: Uh flightened and it was probably about many four miles
south east of Clayton.
Speaker 4: Uh. There was a graveyard there on the right.
Speaker 2: Hand side, and you go down and you go into
the the then.
Speaker 4: Trying to meet you, and you go down and you
pass you go.
Speaker 2: Over the creek or the first creek, and you keep
going and there's a road and I had a r
V and I took it down.
Speaker 4: Here is.
Speaker 2: It was me and my hunt buddy Joe, and so
we got everything all set and that evening we was
going to see if you can you see anything. So
I went up this hill. There was a green that
went right straight in the middle went up, you know,
so on each side, and so I was walking kind
of looking and I got back half way up and
all of a sudden, here comes four or five doors
and they was just running full glass up the hill
and I said wow, wow, And so I thought, well,
they didn't see me.
Speaker 4: So I walked up on top and went walked up
up on top.
Speaker 2: I was kind of looking, and I stayed there maybe
probably fifteen or thirty minutes, and it was kind of
getting late, and I thought, well, I was just kind
of slowly, you know, kind of walked down the hill.
And so I got about halfway and all of a
sudden I heard stomp. The ground shook like steps boom.
I mean you can feel it in your your body
boom boom boom, And I know, so it was and
my heart was just going and it was just.
Speaker 4: Like boom boom boom boom step.
Speaker 2: And so when it stopped, I was going to turn around,
and it said, don't turn around.
Speaker 4: Ill, here we go.
Speaker 2: Why because he said I'm ugly and I said, because
everybody's not ugly. And he said, I'm a beast and
he knew that. I went through the light and and
he said, how did you like that? I said that
was fantastic, that was super and he said he said,
my cousins they do something like that sometimes.
Speaker 4: But he would not.
Speaker 2: Let me look at him. I said, okay, I promise
I won't look at you. And I just after that
he talked about you know, if I remember, he talked
about something else. And so it was getting late and
I said, okay, I'll see you later, and I just
walked on down my buddy and we went inside.
Speaker 4: And I was gonna make some taters.
Speaker 2: I was feeling taters, and he was fixing the fire,
and all of a sudden, it just the fire just went.
Speaker 4: It's like bright know what happened.
Speaker 2: And we got out there and put the fire out,
and I didn't I guess my mind. I just threw
it out because for him, he don't believe either.
Speaker 3: You think was starting in ninety three was a dog man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think he was a dog man
because he knew that I've seen Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're saying the creature that you encountered, you
believe it was a dog man or your friend Joe
believed it was a dog man.
Speaker 4: No, I I thought it was a dog man.
Speaker 2: But Joe, he he don't believe me when I talk
about Bigfoot.
Speaker 4: You know, he don't blame me.
Speaker 2: So I think I had just in my mind, I
just closed up and shut up and I'll forget about it.
And that's how come I didn't remember when I had
the hypnotis that's when it.
Speaker 4: I remember.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 5: Shelley said that you may start remembering things after the hypnotism,
more details, and you have.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And ROBERTA, what did the hypnotists revealed? Did it
reveal a lot more information, a lot more details about
the sightings.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: She asked specific questions, and she told him that the
way he answered her question, she thought it was a
real experience because he wouldn't have had the detail.
Speaker 3: He wouldn't have been able to tell her how it smelled.
Speaker 5: In the room and how the bearskin rug felt and
he was able to describe everything in detail.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's edible. And I have no reason not to
believe your experience. I mean it does sound different than
a lot of other experiences. But also I know I've
experienced orbs out in the woods that appear right in
front of me, and there's got to be more to it.
I mean, where are these orbs coming from? What are they?
And it definitely seems spiritual and supernatural. What are your
thoughts about the experiences that you had? Do you feel
like they're supernatural?
Speaker 2: I think there are matter of fact orbs. We went
to Missouri. They're at a haunted mansion, haunted mansion, and
I was taking pictures and I got an ORB and
it's a big orb.
Speaker 3: I'll send you that photo also.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that sounds great. And what other experience experiences
have you had with the SaaS Watch, Like, have they
ever showed showed up to your home or anything like that.
Speaker 4: No, No, they haven't shown me.
Speaker 2: But every time I go out, I uh, I start
feeling feeling stuff and I can actually uh see him.
Speaker 5: He can spot things in photos that others can't pick out.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, And do you believe the possible dog man
was chasing those five gear.
Speaker 2: No, because he came up on top. When he walked
down the whole the mountain like it was shaken. I
mean every step you can feel it in your feet
and everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And was the creature communicating to verbally or was
it using telepathy as the community calls it, mind speak?
Speaker 4: Uh speaking mine speak?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: Uh? Same up there with the eighty three mm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the in the eighty three encounter, did they
kind of essentially say the same thing not to look
at them?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they said that, uh, that they're ugly, and I
said no, I said, God, I nobody's ugly.
Speaker 4: And uh when.
Speaker 2: I was talking to Robin, Uh, she said that they
believe in God and and that what I was telling her.
She said that that.
Speaker 4: You had a special moment and I.
Speaker 3: Said yes, and you're highly sensitive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, highly sensitive. I asked her. You know she has.
Speaker 2: Uh somehow on her her property for out where she
protects him. And I asked her, I said, do they
know if I went through the light because supposedly the
old man and he knew, And so she got with
me and she said.
Speaker 3: Uh, no, she didn't have an answer yet.
Speaker 4: You know, she hasn't had an answer yet.
Speaker 3: So that probably meant.
Speaker 1: Now, okay, then what other experiences have you had.
Speaker 5: That?
Speaker 2: Was it the eighty three and ninety three and then
just going out outside?
Speaker 3: He has seen spirits randomly.
Speaker 5: We used to live in a haunted house the house
before this, and he saw spirits in that house.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And were the spirits trying to communicate with you?
Speaker 3: No? They were just standing there.
Speaker 1: Okay. Did they look like modern people or Native American?
Speaker 2: They one was short and the other one was was tall.
One had kind of short, curly hair, and the other
one had long hair. Their clothes was white and their
face was white, but their eyes were black.
Speaker 4: And I was on it.
Speaker 2: I was sleeping on my left hand side, and when
I came when I turned over to my right, it
started me and they were staring at me, and I
went and all of a suddenly, you know, disappeared.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you feel like they were good spirits or
evil spirits?
Speaker 4: I think that it is good.
Speaker 5: That house had a history of hauntings back about seventy
years because we knew that the previous owners and they
told us stories about when they were children.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what are your thoughts about the Sasquatch and
their origins after you had those encounters. What do you
think they are?
Speaker 4: M hmm. I think they're.
Speaker 2: They're more like your uh uh heyman dwellers.
Speaker 1: M hm.
Speaker 3: But do you think they're spiritual.
Speaker 2: Or there they're spells. They're spiritual because they have the power.
And you know, for for me all this, we're not
ready for him yet.
Speaker 4: But uh there.
Speaker 2: They stay around the lakes, in the rivers.
Speaker 5: We've heard We've heard about a couple of groupings up
in Ponka City around that electrical plant.
Speaker 3: There was a family that lived there.
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, that's increatib there's something up here on Nugal too.
Speaker 1: And have you heard any encounter stories from friends or
family in Oklahoma?
Speaker 4: I heard one guy and I was out hunting and
that was it.
Speaker 3: Well, we met the man in Ponca.
Speaker 5: City though that was trying to get a podcast started,
but I don't think he ever did. He's the one
that told us about the ones in Paka City and
he was a Native American.
Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, those sound like some incredible experiences and I
definitely believe you, and I'm sure it was hard to
understand these experiences throughout the years.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, I was twenty three years and I did not
believe in Bigfoot. I mean, I say right now, when
I was twenty three years old, I did not believe
in Bigfoot. Matter of fact, when Boggy Freak came out,
I was seven years old and my buddy, his brother,
was in high school and he was an audigo visual
and he had to make a film, and so he
chose Boggy Creek, which who played Bigfoot met and his
mom had a brown jacket, one of those furry jackets,
you know you.
Speaker 4: Have a little.
Speaker 2: Baby signed like a football game, you know like that.
I had that on a wolf mask and I was
going onside of the hill.
Speaker 5: Going And I can tell you this has absolutely consumed
his life. He talks about nothing, he thinks about nothing
but Bigfoot.
Speaker 3: We've named her Sassy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can definitely relate. And yeah, it's amazing to
have these experiences and not many people will understand home.
I remember hearing the story from Mount Saint Helens when
the volcano erupted and the government cover up took place.
The people who told their encounters mentioned that they went
to a cave and they found these sasquatch with burnt bodies,
and there was this big male sasquatch that was wearing
like this, I don't know what you'd call it, a
fur coat or some sort of fur that covered its body.
Speaker 4: Oh my mm.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that kind of reminded how what you experienced.
Speaker 5: I just have so many questions now that he's talked
about it so much. I have a lot of questions,
but nobody answer them.
Speaker 2: Well, I know that the ends are protecting them, and
I know that the government is also protecting them, and
there's a lot of people out there that has seen
them and they're protecting them.
Speaker 5: Well, the most amazing thing that he said he was hunting.
He had his gun, but he was not afraid. He
said he didn't even think about drawing on him.
Speaker 2: No I saw him, I saw my gun. I said,
ain't no way, no way, and I was using that
I was shooting at thirty odd six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's incredible. And what did you learn from your experience?
And could you possibly be able to contact them again
and make that happen again?
Speaker 2: I wanted to every time when COVID was all that,
that was the last time ninety three I went out
like that. But when COVID and all that, I just
haven't on out like I have.
Speaker 3: We're a little bit older than we were then too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I completely understand. And yeah, I appreciate you
both for sharing your experiences with me, and it really
means a lot. Do you guys have anything else that
you'd like to add to the podcast and on the report?
Speaker 4: I just want to.
Speaker 2: See if there's other people out there that that had
gone through what I've gone through, or.
Speaker 3: We haven't heard of anyone else that has went into
the light.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard of people like seeing orbs and reappearing
somewhere else, or losing time, things like that, but I
personally haven't heard of somebody going into one of these
portals and coming out somewhere else, like in another world.
But I have today, So if we do in the future,
we'll well, we'll see what.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: I was gonna tell you where I was where I
went through, it looked like on the other side, about
probably two hundred and fifty yards, it looked like the
same spot, but there was no huts.
Speaker 4: And I think that it's you go in and it's
like it's it's the same time.
Speaker 3: As enter a different atmosphere.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a different atmosphere.
Speaker 1: So it's the same area. I wonder if it's a
different time, like thousands of years in the past, but
the same spot.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I that was there was a
big rock and when he went past that rock, I
came out and I walked probably I took probably four
or five steps, and I saw my tree, my pack
there and you can see it kind of colorful but still.
Speaker 4: Hazy. I just kind of falked on over. Hit them up.
Speaker 3: What you said you felt funny?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel funny.
Speaker 1: What do you mean by funny?
Speaker 5: I think that he was given sassafras and possibly marijuana,
because he said he had like a hangover, but not
a hangover, just a weird feeling.
Speaker 1: M hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And he wasn't used to marijuana at all.
Speaker 2: No, I you know, everybody said, oh, Mark you burn
I said, no, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't do drugs.
Speaker 1: M Yeah. It could be an effect from going through
the portal into another dimension. And yeah, that's definitely spooky.
Did you notice any missing time?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seemed like I was there for a long time.
Speaker 4: That's when I started.
Speaker 2: When I heard them talking, that's when I was was
getting kind of flashbacks. You know, mom and family and
all that, and she was upset. She was crying and
he said, no, no, he's going to die when he's eighty.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I mean he talk like like, you know, like Indians
like nope, And that's how Uh that's how ninety three
was his voice was, I mean real.
Speaker 4: H strong?
Speaker 1: Kay? Yeah, so very demanding voice.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: M Do you guys have anything else you'd like that?
Speaker 4: Uh? No, that's it.
Speaker 2: Is there anything you want me to ahead? Do you
have any questions?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I think that answered most of my questions. And you
did an excellent job at retelling the experiences that you've
had and I really appreciate you both for taking the
time to do that. And yeah, we'll see in the
future if anyone else has a similar experience.
Speaker 4: Uh you know RPG.
Speaker 1: No, I've never heard of him.
Speaker 3: Ryan Golinbski.
Speaker 2: No, okay, Well he was on the expeditions Bigfoot and
he's the one that they got sick with the headache
and say hooking back.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I think I think I know what you're
talking about. It's been a while since I've watched the show.
Speaker 3: Well, it was so good to talk to you, and
we really appreciate you taking the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And if you guys experience anything else in
the future, definitely feel free to reach out.
Speaker 5: If you'll text me your email address, I'll send those
items to you.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that sounds good to me.
Speaker 3: All right, Thank you, Miguel, yep.
Speaker 1: Thank you, and you both have an excellent day, you
guys do. All right. That was Mark's story from Oklahoma.
Before we wrap things up, I want to share a
few of my own thoughts on today's interview. As many
of you know, I've listened to hundreds of bigfoot encounter
reports over the years. While I always want to give
people the opportunity to share their experiences, I also think
it's important to be honest when parts of a story
leave me with questions. One thing that stood out to
me was that Mark described two encounters roughly ten years
a part where the creature reportedly approached him from behind
and said the exact same phrase, don't turn around because
I'm ugly. That level of similarity immediately caught my attention
and is something I personally find difficult to explain. Another
detail that gave me pause was the description of sasquatch
wearing furs or clothing, and the vast majority of reports
I've documented over the years, witnesses describe these creatures as
naturally covered in hair or fur rather than wearing garments.
That doesn't necessarily mean Mark's experience didn't happen the way
he remembers it, but it is very different from what
I've typically heard. My goal Sasquatch theory has never been
to convince you that every story is true or foss.
My responsibility is to provide a platform for people to
share their experiences while also being transparent When a report
raises questions for me, I think it's healthy to keep
an open mind, but it's just as important to think
critically and evaluate each account on its own merits. On
another note, if Mark's encounter is true, how extraordinary is
that for the sasquatch to show you their world and
let you in on where they come from and to
communicate with them. I would personally be terrified, like, no, no, no, don't,
I don't want to go leave me alone, because to
go into another dimension would truly be frightening. And Mark
believes this really happened to him, And I definitely believe
something happened to Mark out in the Forest of Oklahoma
because he has carried this experience with him for many years,
and he told Roberta about it and she believes him,
so who am I to say this didn't happen to him.
I did find some discrepancies and I had to point
them out and be transparent, but it was fascinating to
listen to. I would love to hear your respectful thoughts
in the comments. What part of Mark's story stood out
to you, did anything resonate with you, or did you
notice details that raise questions. Let's keep the discussion civil
and respectful for everyone involved. Thank you for watching, and
I'll see you on the next episode of Sasquatch Theory.