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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, welcome to Pinche. It's Thursday. It's the day

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about Bravo. So I've got one of my

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<v Speaker 1>Bravo experts. Here is my friend, Mandy Slitzker of Is

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<v Speaker 1>this Real life with the Bandy Slitzker? Hey, Bandy, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>how's it going. It's great, you know, things are Everything

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<v Speaker 1>is great.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Okright, countries exploding, sun has to leave college. Everybody's sick,

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<v Speaker 1>we're snow down. Everything is fine. Everything is fine. You're

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<v Speaker 1>a city girl though that you just get out, you

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<v Speaker 1>just hit the streets. Everything's all good for you down

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<v Speaker 1>there in DC.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it is actually the worst I've seen it because

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<v Speaker 2>of the sheets of ice are like the sleet that

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<v Speaker 2>came down, so we got like seven inches of snow

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<v Speaker 2>and then like inches of ice on top. It is

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<v Speaker 2>now so packed in that I, an adult human being

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<v Speaker 2>can walk on top of it without falling through. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like when my dog was walking on it, she's twenty

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<v Speaker 2>pounds whatever. But then I like was trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>to like pick up her booth, and I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm walking on like nine inches right now of like

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<v Speaker 2>solid I don't know, snow ice material it's and they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't plowed. I mean they've plowed some big streets, but

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<v Speaker 2>they haven't plowed like the street that I live on,

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<v Speaker 2>So like, really you're stuck. Yeah, it's such a disaster here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like and then there's no communication about like when

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<v Speaker 2>things are going to get plowed or what they're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to do or apparently a lot of the trucks broke.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well that's bad timing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, like because of the like the the ice is

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<v Speaker 2>so heavy compared to sell that, like it wasn't they

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<v Speaker 2>weren't able to like do the removal.

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<v Speaker 1>Well here where we are for Chres County, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>all right, but I had to go over to Old Town.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the first time I left my house in

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<v Speaker 1>three days. I had to go over to old Town

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<v Speaker 1>to pick something up. And when you got over into

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<v Speaker 1>old Town, it was the same situation, like, yeah, most

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<v Speaker 1>of the streets weren't cloud and I'm just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like for me, yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Put on that all wheel drive, and my friends are

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<v Speaker 2>all just like, oh my god, I'm so tired of

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<v Speaker 2>being inside. So I'm like, God, over this Minnesota girl

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<v Speaker 2>is going to get in her car and I just

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<v Speaker 2>went and picked them all up and brought them to

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<v Speaker 2>my place.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, it's fine. I looked at my car and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like putting it as like eco mode, standard mode.

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<v Speaker 1>Something mode is said snow mode. I go, that's the one.

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<v Speaker 1>Put it just like yeah, here we go. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, good times. I hope wherever you are you

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<v Speaker 1>are warm. I love the people posting, like from Aruba

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<v Speaker 1>or something. I'm like, good for you.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was just in Grand Cayman last week and

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<v Speaker 2>I got in like an hour before the storm.

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<v Speaker 1>It feel so good. You get that. You just felt

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<v Speaker 1>so good.

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<v Speaker 2>It did feel so good. It's wonderful. I would recommend

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<v Speaker 2>vacation there to absolutely anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that one of Sheprose's places where he finds girlfriend's

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<v Speaker 1>Grant Cayman. I'm trying to remember.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think that was Bahamas. And he also likes

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<v Speaker 2>to go to Saint Bart's. I've never been to me either.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Bethany, it's not worth it.

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<v Speaker 2>That was so weird when there was that whole story

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<v Speaker 2>about her getting what was it on her eye, Like

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<v Speaker 2>on her.

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<v Speaker 1>She got like a bacterial infection from the hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like face chlamydia.

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<v Speaker 1>Which isn't the thing, No, Bethany break.

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<v Speaker 2>There's lots of types of bacteria. You guys don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to call it face chlamydia.

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<v Speaker 1>Bethany. We love her. She's gonna save the planet one

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<v Speaker 1>chanel bag at a time. All right, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the Salt Lake City Reunion Part three. We're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>through it as it happened lightly, and you know the

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<v Speaker 1>way part two ended, in the way part three began

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<v Speaker 1>was with Britney doing a performance cry situation, and I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was hilarious when she came back to the

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<v Speaker 1>stage with her like her Starbucks cup and she's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're all like, we're in the middle of a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation and they're like, we were talking getting somewhere. We

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<v Speaker 1>really don't care, And she's like, fine. The girl, when

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you she is the Rodney Dangerfield of Salt

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<v Speaker 1>Lake City, she gets no respect. And she's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a victim. I'm like, but you are an actress,

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<v Speaker 1>so stop stop.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what's hard with her is you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>when she's been real and when she's acting truly, and

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<v Speaker 2>so it's very, very tough to know. I also think

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<v Speaker 2>people were really hard last week on Meredith for sharing

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<v Speaker 2>what she shared, at least that's what I saw on

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<v Speaker 2>social media. And I mean, it's not great to insinuate

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<v Speaker 2>that someone is anti Semitic, you know. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>believe that Brittany is. I don't believe it's in her heart.

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<v Speaker 2>But she does have a tendency to like want to

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<v Speaker 2>look the other way with lots of things in general,

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<v Speaker 2>like look at her relationship, Like there's red flags all

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<v Speaker 2>over that, and she just won't see it if she

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't feel like seen it. And so I'm not shocked,

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<v Speaker 2>Like if she was told, hey, this guy said this

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<v Speaker 2>like horrible antisemitic thing, and she's like, was that his

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<v Speaker 2>only events?

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<v Speaker 3>Essentially, she's like it's free males, like totally, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think she understood the gravity of the situation for Meredith,

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<v Speaker 3>where it was like a person who had come into

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<v Speaker 3>her home as a Jewish person, you know, and it

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<v Speaker 3>has been a time of like very heightened anti semitism.

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<v Speaker 2>Where like every Jew that I know has experienced it

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<v Speaker 2>on a personal level multiple times. Like, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>I understand her being the way she is. She's just

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<v Speaker 2>a really poor communicator. Meredith like she communicates like a robot,

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<v Speaker 2>or like a legal robot. She's not saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this hurt me because I had this man in my

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<v Speaker 2>home and it really disturbed me that I had someone

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<v Speaker 2>that had hate in their heart for me and my

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<v Speaker 2>family in my home. And to think that someone else,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in this friend group would use this person

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<v Speaker 2>if even after knowing that yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That is wrote glowing review.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes that's the Yeah, I could see why she

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<v Speaker 2>was miffed. I don't like that production decided not to

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<v Speaker 2>keep whatever that was like in because then we couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>understand why she hated Brittany so much. I get it

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<v Speaker 2>a little more now. It's not like it's okay how

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<v Speaker 2>she treated Brittany, but I get it makes way more

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<v Speaker 2>sense now. Like I don't think she give a shit

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<v Speaker 2>about the TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, TikTok whatever. Well, Andy tries to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Meredith about the playing situation, and she said I had

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<v Speaker 1>one drink in the lounge, and then Lisa starts yelling

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<v Speaker 1>and crying and saying like, you guys accused me of

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<v Speaker 1>starting into these rumors, and Mary is going calm down,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that deep calm down, and then Lisa says

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<v Speaker 1>to Heather, I'll spell all your secrets. I'll spell all

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<v Speaker 1>your secrets, and Heather goes go ahead, like what are

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<v Speaker 1>we talking about? Then Meredith starts saying saying she'll take

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<v Speaker 1>a drug test every single day. Whitney apologizes for calling

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<v Speaker 1>Meredith the drug addict, but popper and she said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>her behavior does read benzo's mixed with alcohol. I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>it's specific. Yeah. But then we see in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three a sprinter van always a sprinter van clip in Bermuda,

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<v Speaker 1>where Heather is saying like, oh, you're coming down from

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<v Speaker 1>the benzos from the flight, and then they start talking

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<v Speaker 1>about oh. Heather's like, Meredith, I've given you lots of

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<v Speaker 1>pills and She's like, I don't know I want any

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<v Speaker 1>pills you're talking about. She's like, I've given you a

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<v Speaker 1>Zoe friend when you're nauseous. I've given you an ambient

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<v Speaker 1>for flying. And Heather's like, so, what pills have I

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<v Speaker 1>popped in front of you?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>There's two things here, Mandy on a reunion when we

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<v Speaker 1>had the whole we didn't know with the Ginshaw and

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<v Speaker 1>the black Eye, there was a comment about ketamine on

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<v Speaker 1>this the season opener two seasons ago, when Brahman came

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<v Speaker 1>in with the big heartcoat and Meredith, I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>Mary and Brittany got into the fight about you're not

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<v Speaker 1>poor and you put biscuits in your purse.

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<v Speaker 2>In your purse. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They also made a comment about people doing ketemine. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>so twice there's been comments on the show about people

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<v Speaker 1>doing ketamine. Utah, beyond the realm of that. These people

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<v Speaker 1>are doing Kennedine, Oh, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally not beyond the realm. And I think Monica Garcia,

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<v Speaker 2>who is not a very good you know, like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think she's a reliable narrator, but she did say

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<v Speaker 2>that someone a few years ago at Bravo Khan brought

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<v Speaker 2>coke with them and was nervous someone would find it,

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<v Speaker 2>which tells me that maybe they're not frequent coke user.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, they don't know what they're doing. Yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Oh, they're trying to have some fun

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<v Speaker 2>in Vegas, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they got nervous.

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<v Speaker 2>They haven't done it before.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like you know, and then you know, Heather's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me the pills I popped in front of Young.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they are. I'm just seeing the pills.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they are. And then Whitney's like,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're trying to get away from the point, and

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<v Speaker 1>the point is I wanted to go back to what

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<v Speaker 1>I said and say that I'm sorry for what I said. Whitney,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt the whole especially this episode, was trying so

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<v Speaker 1>hard to be heard from the end of that couch.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, but wait a minute, I was talking from

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the couch. She was trying. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>hard to make sure she sees the next season, I felt.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. I yeah, they're also interesting in how

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<v Speaker 2>they communicate and don't communicate. And I feel like, and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get into this when we talk about Beverly Hills,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel like more and more housewives are going

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<v Speaker 2>into filming a scene or sitting for a reunion with

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<v Speaker 2>like a game plan, and they got to deviate from

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<v Speaker 2>the game plan. Yes, and whenever there's like something that

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<v Speaker 2>comes like Lisa Barlow. When Mary started coming for Lisa Barlow,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, oh, I did not have a way

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<v Speaker 2>to pivot from this. This was not part of my

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<v Speaker 2>game plan, like she was like, where is this coming from?

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<v Speaker 2>And she didn't even It was like she couldn't listen

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<v Speaker 2>in real time and respond in real time. The only

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<v Speaker 2>person that seemed like fully president and ready to respond

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<v Speaker 2>to anything was bron Win. But even she came in

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<v Speaker 2>with a game plan like I'm going to announce my

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<v Speaker 2>separation and I'm going to share you know, this, this

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<v Speaker 2>and this. So yeah, I guess I just it makes

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<v Speaker 2>it harder to have real conversations where you can get

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<v Speaker 2>real answers from them, because like Meredith was so rehearsed, literally,

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<v Speaker 2>she'd be the perfect witness on a witness stand. Every

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<v Speaker 2>lawyer would love to have her on their side for

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think them, the two of them, Lisa

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, Meredith says regarding the on the plane, and

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<v Speaker 1>new if you said it all okay, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>until you believe it's true, you know. Yeah, Angie says Meredith. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>Truth right until I'm ready to tell the truth right right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>Heather is happy to be an empty nester. You know, people,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little controversial about this, but I understood

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<v Speaker 1>moving into it. She was able to move into a

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think it was. I mean, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>people can find controversy and anything, but I think she

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<v Speaker 2>was just saying, wow, you know, like if you get

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<v Speaker 2>few years you have like high school, maybe college, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a year or two after of like quote unquote freedom

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<v Speaker 2>where you do things and you make decisions for yourself

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<v Speaker 2>and you're not thinking about a family when you make decisions. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>she hasn't had that in so long. She never really

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<v Speaker 2>got her freedom. She never really dated around or had

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<v Speaker 2>lots of boyfriends, or even explored what her interests were.

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<v Speaker 2>I read her book, like she started with like this

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<v Speaker 2>jewelry business that did really well. Like, I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel like she's gotten a chance to explore anything that

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<v Speaker 2>she was interested in because she was so focused on

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<v Speaker 2>raising those kids while she was married and then even

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<v Speaker 2>more so after her divorce, so she's not had a

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought she was like, I'm still loving it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, you know, I don't feel bad about it

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<v Speaker 1>at all, and Brittany tells us for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>in six years, she had both of her daughters home

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<v Speaker 1>for Christmas, talks about how much she loves him. That

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting. So then we talk about this thing about

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<v Speaker 1>John Barlow making Lisa look bad on camera, and Andy's like,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of seems like he was like trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>you look bad, and she goes, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>very upsetting because he knows I do everything for him

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<v Speaker 1>and I do feel underappreciated sometimes and it did really

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<v Speaker 1>break my heart that he would say that, like on camera.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never try to make him look bad like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And Heather's like, well, you just felt embarrassed, and Mary goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. If your husband says you're not a

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<v Speaker 1>good listener, then you're not a good listener.

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<v Speaker 2>Mary. She was so honest and on top.

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<v Speaker 1>Of everything, so funny, and Lie goes, okay, Mary, and

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<v Speaker 1>Marredith goes, she's trying to help you. She's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need your help right now. Mary, and Angie goes,

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<v Speaker 1>but look, you know those were his real feelings. We

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<v Speaker 1>are on a reality show and Andy goes, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was like, actually a real moment. But Lisa's like, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done, I don't want to talk about it. Like

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying is falling on deaf ears. And they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not listening to us. We're validating you. We're saying

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<v Speaker 1>that was a real moment between the two of you,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mary's like she don't want to hear it. She

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to hear it. But it was interesting that

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<v Speaker 1>she was. They were trying to say, like it was

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<v Speaker 1>really real and yes, it may have been hurtful, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was being very honest and you are on a

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<v Speaker 1>reality show. But she just is like, no, he shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have done that.

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<v Speaker 2>Because she's performative on the show, she doesn't show us

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<v Speaker 2>her true self. I don't think she knows who her

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<v Speaker 2>true self is. Yes, part of herself is like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she loves to go to Wendy's and you know, drive

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<v Speaker 2>around with her kid in the back, calling him baby gorgeous,

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<v Speaker 2>but like that's not personality, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>And she has problems listening, and I think he has

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<v Speaker 2>problems getting her attention, and there's no better way to

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<v Speaker 2>get her attention than filming, right, because she cares so

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<v Speaker 2>much about how she comes across and he's I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was like a hail Mary pass for him, Like

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<v Speaker 2>he's just like, please listen to me. You need to

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<v Speaker 2>do better listening. I am unhappy when you behave this way,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think you also cause problems in this relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>It can't just be me, Like that's what he's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to convey, that she's so focused on the image of

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<v Speaker 2>herself and the image of them is like the perfect

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<v Speaker 2>couple that she can't even hear that he's actually hurting

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<v Speaker 2>and that he does seem to want to fix it.

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<v Speaker 2>When people don't want to fix things, they don't talk

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it did seem like he was like, I this

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<v Speaker 1>is like a hail Mary and it is just like

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<v Speaker 1>what they said on the last episode when she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>show up for that first day of filming, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, two things we know about Lisa. She's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to miss a filming day and she's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna miss something for a payday basically. So she

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<v Speaker 1>showed up for filming that and she wasn't expecting him today.

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<v Speaker 1>She went, this was really hard. We had a really

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<v Speaker 1>hard time speaking of bad relationships. So we get Braun

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<v Speaker 1>when the scenes of bron when in Muzzy and then

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<v Speaker 1>we also saw the whole thing about her, like trying

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to Todd and like do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>have an open marriage and all that, and she tells

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<v Speaker 1>us and I did don't think I knew during the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season that her dad passed away right when they

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<v Speaker 1>got home from Greece. If so that just with all

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<v Speaker 1>the airplane drama that went right over my head, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize her. Yeah, that's the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know what happened, so like kind of quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>like they put him in a home and like a

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<v Speaker 2>few years later he's done. And yes, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure you I don't know, but you deal with someone

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<v Speaker 2>who is you know, has Alzheimer's that goes on for

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<v Speaker 2>years and years and years. Yeah, and so like you

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<v Speaker 2>but then when they're gone, it's so final, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a very difficult illness.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And it was. It was interesting about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>her saying that Muzzy had never really accepted that that

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<v Speaker 1>And we had a kind of a similar situation with

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<v Speaker 1>And it was the same kind of thing as like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not you know, for me as an outsider, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not sudden. She's been very sick with Alzheimer's for

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<v Speaker 1>so many years. Yeah, it's really hard, but it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked Braun when talking about it. I liked it

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<v Speaker 1>sort of humanized Muzzy a bit. And it also humanized

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<v Speaker 1>Muzzy a bit when she was saying that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people were making memes and jokes at Muzzy's expense, and

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<v Speaker 1>Muzzy was like felt the world turned on her. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we're all like, oh gosh, poor Muzzy. And then

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure I wouldn't be able to handle it either,

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<v Speaker 2>like going on a show and having people critique my

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<v Speaker 2>behavior and tell me like all of the things about

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<v Speaker 2>myself but need to be changed. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>could hear it because it would be coming like you

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<v Speaker 2>know at you NonStop. Yes, but it's not like a

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<v Speaker 2>close friend sitting you down and telling you a hard truth.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a bunch of strangers. And how much could

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<v Speaker 2>you rely on strangers? And yeah, but you know, she's

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<v Speaker 2>a difficult person. And I think bron Win needs to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out how to navigate her relationship with her mom,

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<v Speaker 2>which she clearly wants to have one, knowing that her

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<v Speaker 2>Bronwin has to provide that to herself, like she could see,

417
00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:15.799
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't you sister? How many sisters does she have? It

418
00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:19.359
<v Speaker 2>feels like she's almost an only child because why are

419
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<v Speaker 2>the parents always with her? Is that because she has

420
00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:23.720
<v Speaker 2>a lot of money?

421
00:22:23.680 --> 00:22:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Right, I think she's at least two at least

422
00:22:28.279 --> 00:22:28.920
<v Speaker 1>two sisters.

423
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<v Speaker 2>And I've had to be fascinated. I want to know

424
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<v Speaker 2>the birth order.

425
00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you know, she's the one that was the

426
00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:38.839
<v Speaker 1>bad one, you know, because her sister was pregnant at

427
00:22:38.839 --> 00:22:41.480
<v Speaker 1>the same time, but but married, you know.

428
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Okay, it's coming back to me. Yes. And the

429
00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:47.119
<v Speaker 2>thing that I thought was so interesting that I did

430
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<v Speaker 2>not pick up on. But that Heather Gay did is

431
00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:53.240
<v Speaker 2>that Muzzy is trying to tell make sure that it's

432
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<v Speaker 2>clear to everyone that she's still a good Mormon.

433
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<v Speaker 1>She didn't approve of what Brahmin did. And when they

434
00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.599
<v Speaker 1>showed that, they rolled that scene again of Muzzy kind

435
00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:05.119
<v Speaker 1>of being like, well, I don't know. I guess your

436
00:23:05.200 --> 00:23:07.079
<v Speaker 1>kid would have been in foster care if I didn't

437
00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:09.680
<v Speaker 1>take care of it. And when Brondon goes, why would

438
00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:12.200
<v Speaker 1>you say that I would have taken to like that's dark,

439
00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Like why would you say that to me about your granddaughter?

440
00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:18.200
<v Speaker 1>You know? And I think that's all of that was like, well,

441
00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to show what a good Mormon I was.

442
00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't condone my daughter getting pregnant, and you know,

443
00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:25.880
<v Speaker 1>but she still still is in that mindset no matter

444
00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:26.960
<v Speaker 1>how old she is, you know.

445
00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:30.960
<v Speaker 2>But it's wild because it's so different from like Protestant

446
00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:34.119
<v Speaker 2>and Catholic, Like from my understanding of people I know

447
00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:37.279
<v Speaker 2>in my life who are like really strict Catholics and

448
00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:40.240
<v Speaker 2>then they have a kid that gets pregnant at a

449
00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:43.319
<v Speaker 2>time that they don't expect. Yeah, they're pissed, they're upset.

450
00:23:43.720 --> 00:23:45.799
<v Speaker 2>You had, you know, sex before marriage. You did all

451
00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:48.640
<v Speaker 2>this stuff. But they are like, Okay, move in with me.

452
00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:51.599
<v Speaker 2>We're going to raise this kid, like because they believe

453
00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:54.240
<v Speaker 2>in life so much, it's so important for them to

454
00:23:54.319 --> 00:23:57.519
<v Speaker 2>give this life a chance. And they all come together

455
00:23:57.720 --> 00:23:59.799
<v Speaker 2>and then later on they're like, well, this was such

456
00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:02.799
<v Speaker 2>a lessing for our family. You know. That's sort of

457
00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:05.759
<v Speaker 2>more of the experience I've had with very religious people

458
00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:11.079
<v Speaker 2>having dealt with teenage or unexpected pregnancies, so to it's

459
00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:13.480
<v Speaker 2>just so foreign to me, this idea that like you're

460
00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:17.599
<v Speaker 2>still mad about it and you're not focused on the outcome,

461
00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:21.160
<v Speaker 2>which is like a granddaughter who has brought joy and so.

462
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<v Speaker 1>You love Who's right?

463
00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Love?

464
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, through the din during this com I.

465
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<v Speaker 2>Know, I know it was driving me and like this

466
00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:29.359
<v Speaker 2>is a real part. You know, you're like when you're pregnant,

467
00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:33.079
<v Speaker 2>you're talking like theoretically you're like when this baby comes

468
00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:35.359
<v Speaker 2>or what you know what I mean. But the baby,

469
00:24:35.519 --> 00:24:38.200
<v Speaker 2>it's like a woman and she's here. It's it's the

470
00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:41.960
<v Speaker 2>weirdest I just never seen anything like it.

471
00:24:42.599 --> 00:24:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and so she said, you know, of course

472
00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I Muzzy's mad at her about it. So that'll be

473
00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:50.319
<v Speaker 1>next season. But yeah, and we talked. We get into

474
00:24:50.359 --> 00:24:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the Todd conversation and they're talking about, you know, Todd

475
00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:55.200
<v Speaker 1>when she was in Greece, did go and help her

476
00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:57.880
<v Speaker 1>mom move? And you know, they're like, this is a

477
00:24:57.960 --> 00:25:01.880
<v Speaker 1>nice part of Todd that we don't see, and and

478
00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Andy goes, yeah, so maybe there are these parts of

479
00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:06.519
<v Speaker 1>him that weren't shown. And then she goes, is there

480
00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:09.559
<v Speaker 1>going to be more about Todd? And Andy goes, am

481
00:25:09.559 --> 00:25:12.240
<v Speaker 1>I gonna ask more questions about Todd? Yes, I am.

482
00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:15.640
<v Speaker 1>She goes, okay, well, then where? And then this is

483
00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:17.559
<v Speaker 1>she's doing a little bit of a Lisa Meredith here.

484
00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Now she's trying to lead the conversation like where do

485
00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:22.440
<v Speaker 1>you want me to start with? What was on the

486
00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:25.440
<v Speaker 1>show or where we are now? And he's like huh,

487
00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:27.640
<v Speaker 1>like kind of thing.

488
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was like sort of an and that's when

489
00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:32.440
<v Speaker 2>she dropped the bomb that they were separated. I really

490
00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:35.039
<v Speaker 2>wish that no one who was on set leaked that,

491
00:25:35.599 --> 00:25:39.079
<v Speaker 2>because it sucks to keep leaking all this stuff. I

492
00:25:39.079 --> 00:25:41.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know why people think it's fun. If you know something,

493
00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:45.599
<v Speaker 2>don't share it, Like why it's not fun? I don't

494
00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:47.079
<v Speaker 2>want to hear I want to see it. When I

495
00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:50.880
<v Speaker 2>see it like, you know, when current cast is filming,

496
00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:53.039
<v Speaker 2>like I don't want to see all these like Real Housewives,

497
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:57.559
<v Speaker 2>Ultimate Girls Trip like Portia and Vicki, and I wanted

498
00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:01.839
<v Speaker 2>to be surprising to me, so just stop, just stop,

499
00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:04.319
<v Speaker 2>you know. And it sucks when it's someone from the

500
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:07.559
<v Speaker 2>set or you know, I don't know, but it came

501
00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:09.440
<v Speaker 2>out like that day. Yeah, it was like there were

502
00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:12.799
<v Speaker 2>rumors that day. Yeah, and I'm just like, fuck, dude,

503
00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:15.359
<v Speaker 2>I want to you know, enjoy my show.

504
00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I know, because remember when Brittany had her show in

505
00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:21.720
<v Speaker 1>New York, we had already heard the thing about Brahman

506
00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:24.359
<v Speaker 1>and Bramwa was there and the audience like cheering and stuff.

507
00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:29.119
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, okay, so talk about Todd. Okay. She says,

508
00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:31.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, I saw myself this year saying things I

509
00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:34.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't really mean, like saying I would be open, like

510
00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:37.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I really meant that. And she says,

511
00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:38.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, we got to a place where I was

512
00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:42.480
<v Speaker 1>feeling isolated. And no, the show didn't make him get divorced,

513
00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:44.559
<v Speaker 1>but as every single person goes on the show gets

514
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.359
<v Speaker 1>a divorce. As the show puts a spotlight, you know

515
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:51.440
<v Speaker 1>on the problems and then she's you know. Todd was like,

516
00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:53.759
<v Speaker 1>you can't talk to me about the problems in our marriage,

517
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:55.680
<v Speaker 1>but you also can't talk to your friends. And she's like,

518
00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:58.359
<v Speaker 1>so I'm just supposed to like take it. I can't

519
00:26:58.359 --> 00:26:59.759
<v Speaker 1>talk to him about it, and I can't talk to

520
00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:02.839
<v Speaker 1>my friends about it. And she said she just started

521
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:06.200
<v Speaker 1>seeing that she makes a lot of choices on his

522
00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:09.279
<v Speaker 1>behalf and doesn't ever like show up on behalf of herself,

523
00:27:09.319 --> 00:27:11.559
<v Speaker 1>And it was hard to tell him he had to go.

524
00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:13.039
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I love that. She was like, it

525
00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:14.799
<v Speaker 1>was hard to tell him he had to go. Instead

526
00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:16.440
<v Speaker 1>of being like I moved out, She's like, I told

527
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>him to get out, which is, yeah, I enjoyed because.

528
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:22.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he lives there very often. I think

529
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:24.519
<v Speaker 2>she lives there. I think he is like living in

530
00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:25.720
<v Speaker 2>San Francisco in New York.

531
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Did you think it was interesting that after they got separated,

532
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.359
<v Speaker 1>he went through and watched all the seasons of Salt

533
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Lake City, every single one, and then which when he

534
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:40.559
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even involved, and then made himself a Reddit and

535
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:44.839
<v Speaker 1>a Twitter and searched himself up and just she goes

536
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:47.880
<v Speaker 1>he and he was just a decimated version of himself.

537
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, did he do this over a weekend? Like,

538
00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:51.720
<v Speaker 1>what are we talking about here?

539
00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:54.160
<v Speaker 2>That's I don't know what timeline we're talking about. But

540
00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:56.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, he did invent palm pilots, So I do

541
00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:59.119
<v Speaker 2>think that he is tech savvy. I don't think he's

542
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:02.799
<v Speaker 2>like some old man trying to figure out Reddit. I've

543
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:05.880
<v Speaker 2>never looked up my name on Reddit. I never want to.

544
00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:10.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't google myself, Like except for when I applied

545
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:13.640
<v Speaker 2>for a job. Oh god, what's gonna happen when they

546
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:14.759
<v Speaker 2>google me? Let me just make.

547
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:16.839
<v Speaker 1>Sure yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.

548
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:20.119
<v Speaker 2>But I'm sure it was devastating, and I'm sure he

549
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:25.000
<v Speaker 2>doesn't view I think he thinks he shows love by

550
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:29.079
<v Speaker 2>like supporting her financially and supporting her family and that

551
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:32.039
<v Speaker 2>like that's enough. And she's basically saying that's not enough.

552
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I need more and you're not able to give it

553
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:35.559
<v Speaker 2>to me. And he was like, I don't think that

554
00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:39.839
<v Speaker 2>was what our agreement was getting married, Like in his mind,

555
00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:42.359
<v Speaker 2>he held up his part of the bargain and is

556
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:46.359
<v Speaker 2>confused why she sees him a certain way. And I

557
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:47.839
<v Speaker 2>don't know if it was hard for him to watch

558
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:49.519
<v Speaker 2>back and be like when he said, oh, do I

559
00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:54.400
<v Speaker 2>not look at you during conversations. Maybe he didn't realize

560
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:55.200
<v Speaker 2>he was doing it.

561
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, yeah, And we talk about the cherry, you

562
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:02.279
<v Speaker 1>know at the ice cream shop that was dark. It

563
00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:04.519
<v Speaker 1>was so funny because everybody was like, yeah, that was

564
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:07.039
<v Speaker 1>really bad, and Mary goes, huh, I thought it was

565
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>a joke. I thought it was cute. And they're all like, Mary,

566
00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>you're completely wrong, and she's like, oh, I don't know

567
00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:15.119
<v Speaker 1>that I was funny. We no, he was, and they

568
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:16.960
<v Speaker 1>were like, he wasn't doing it to be funny. He's

569
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>just doing it because he's completely tone deaf to what

570
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:23.039
<v Speaker 1>she literally just said. And now listening.

571
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:26.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how long ago they separated, but at

572
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Bravo Con, I think I told you this that that

573
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:31.680
<v Speaker 2>one night that me and Jody went out and we

574
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:34.000
<v Speaker 2>were at Mandelay Bay. When we first got to the bar,

575
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:36.440
<v Speaker 2>there was no one there, but then we realized Ron

576
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:38.519
<v Speaker 2>when was there. She was just dressed down. She was

577
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:41.319
<v Speaker 2>wearing like a tiight ice sweatshirt and jeans, and we

578
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:43.920
<v Speaker 2>thought she was barefoot, but she just was wearing flat nudes.

579
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:50.160
<v Speaker 2>He was dark, crying, She was crying, and it was

580
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:52.799
<v Speaker 2>a producer was with her and kind of consoling her,

581
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:54.559
<v Speaker 2>and then she would go back to like laughing kind

582
00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:56.960
<v Speaker 2>of and crying. Like it was clear she was very emotional,

583
00:29:57.240 --> 00:29:59.519
<v Speaker 2>but it didn't seem to be related to anything happening

584
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:01.960
<v Speaker 2>at Bravo or anything happening with her cast. Like I

585
00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:04.039
<v Speaker 2>don't know how to explain it. Like the next day

586
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:06.599
<v Speaker 2>when I saw her on stage, she was fine, So

587
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:09.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, something is going on with her, and I

588
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:12.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's show related, do you know what

589
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:15.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean? Like, I just I felt like she needed

590
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:19.039
<v Speaker 2>to confide in someone, and I think she didn't want

591
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:22.279
<v Speaker 2>to share it with the other women yet, Like I

592
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:25.559
<v Speaker 2>think she really needed time to process the decision she

593
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:27.400
<v Speaker 2>was making, and I feel like she was doing it

594
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.799
<v Speaker 2>with that producer that must be a very close producer

595
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:34.400
<v Speaker 2>to her. We can we also talk. I think this

596
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:38.640
<v Speaker 2>happened on the last episode. The last episode, so the

597
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:41.319
<v Speaker 2>second part of the reunion, But I thought it was

598
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:45.960
<v Speaker 2>really interesting when Meredith said she had a problem with production,

599
00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:48.519
<v Speaker 2>and like everyone got involved and like was.

600
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:50.680
<v Speaker 1>That's here, that's coming up, Oh.

601
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, Like that was probably the most shocking part

602
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:55.880
<v Speaker 2>of a reunion I've seen in a long time.

603
00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>I agree, because we can't. This is how how it

604
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:02.839
<v Speaker 1>happens is that, you know, they kind of say, like,

605
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Heather and Meredith, you know you're not doing good or something,

606
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:07.759
<v Speaker 1>and Heather goes, no, Meredith and I are not friends,

607
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:09.839
<v Speaker 1>and Meredith is like, you've said it three times, like

608
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I've got it, you know. And then Meredith says she's

609
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>sorry that she called Heather a liar, and Meredith is like,

610
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:21.119
<v Speaker 1>I meant to say Whitney and Britney were liars, not Heather.

611
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:23.839
<v Speaker 1>They're the ones that lied about what happened on the plane.

612
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:27.359
<v Speaker 1>And Andy goes like this. He goes, Production's telling me

613
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:31.200
<v Speaker 1>that you pointed at Heather three different times and said

614
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>she was a liar. And Meredith was like, okay, fine,

615
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:38.359
<v Speaker 1>production said it. So then they go into the conversation

616
00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:40.480
<v Speaker 1>about This is how they go into the production thing,

617
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.279
<v Speaker 1>the conversation about when they were in Greece and Meredith

618
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:47.079
<v Speaker 1>was like, I just wanted to talk to my son

619
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Brooks on Mother's Day. It's Mother's show. Yes, yes, and

620
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Bron was like, yeah, we do think it's rude. You're

621
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:56.880
<v Speaker 1>there to work, We're not supposed to be on our phone.

622
00:31:57.039 --> 00:31:59.599
<v Speaker 1>You could get on your phone later and Roma goes,

623
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:02.559
<v Speaker 1>we were all there on Mother's Day and we're all

624
00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>mothers and so no, we didn't understand why you were

625
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>so upset, and Marey is like, well, I was really

626
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>upset about something else. And then Andy goes, you were

627
00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:16.519
<v Speaker 1>mad at production, and she goes m and Andy goes, well,

628
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:18.160
<v Speaker 1>you should talk about it, and he goes, I don't

629
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:21.759
<v Speaker 1>want to talk. It's a lot. It won't go well.

630
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:25.559
<v Speaker 1>So then we see two flashbacks from the reunion that

631
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:31.039
<v Speaker 1>we're watching. Okay, he goes, well, now you said twice

632
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:33.359
<v Speaker 1>at this reunion, so they flash back in the reunion

633
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:37.559
<v Speaker 1>twice for her throwing production under the bus. Once she

634
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:41.799
<v Speaker 1>says that was a whole setup by production, and then

635
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>another time she says, well that guy edits it out.

636
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:48.039
<v Speaker 1>So Whitney goes, you know, I don't like this. Is

637
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>now the third time you've said something about production, and

638
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:53.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it because there's a whole team behind

639
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:56.039
<v Speaker 1>the scenes that works with us and that's the reason

640
00:32:56.160 --> 00:33:00.200
<v Speaker 1>we got picked for us weekly. And Mary starts and

641
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:01.759
<v Speaker 1>he goes, I don't like it when you talk bad

642
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:05.279
<v Speaker 1>about production. And Mary starts crying, and they're like, you're

643
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:08.119
<v Speaker 1>talking bad about production and that's half of what we

644
00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>do is production. And they're like, the reason we were

645
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:13.599
<v Speaker 1>saying you shouldn't be on your phone is we're there

646
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:16.559
<v Speaker 1>to work and you get on your phone as an

647
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:19.119
<v Speaker 1>excuse and make a big drama to get out of

648
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>the hot seat, and we all see it. But they

649
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.319
<v Speaker 1>sort of past this production thing. But I was like,

650
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:30.599
<v Speaker 1>that's not cool. If the whole cast and production and

651
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:34.599
<v Speaker 1>Andy know that she's got beef with production.

652
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:38.400
<v Speaker 2>That's yeah, it's a bad thing. And I thought like, Okay,

653
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I think she has a valid point. The fact that

654
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:43.119
<v Speaker 2>they didn't show the stuff about anti Semitism, so it

655
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:46.599
<v Speaker 2>wasn't given like the story of why she was so upset,

656
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:51.119
<v Speaker 2>But she wouldn't have known that until after it aired, right,

657
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:53.759
<v Speaker 2>So whatever was going on in May when they were

658
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:57.400
<v Speaker 2>in Greece was something different that she was pissed about

659
00:33:57.480 --> 00:33:58.119
<v Speaker 2>with because.

660
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Angy said you were having a problem and said you

661
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.119
<v Speaker 1>were having a problem with production, so he knew what

662
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:05.720
<v Speaker 1>it was, and she was like, was not gonna go well,

663
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.320
<v Speaker 1>but what was it? What was she mad at production about?

664
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:15.119
<v Speaker 2>She has such control issues. She has to control like

665
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:19.199
<v Speaker 2>every single part of herself and exactly how she comes across.

666
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:22.239
<v Speaker 2>She's very similar to Lisa in that way, and so

667
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:26.840
<v Speaker 2>she wants to control the entire narrative and if she can't,

668
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:29.719
<v Speaker 2>she loses it. And that's why she has an issue

669
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:32.960
<v Speaker 2>with production, is because they control the narrative, not her.

670
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, this is when they're saying, like, you always find

671
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:42.400
<v Speaker 1>some big reason to get out of the hot seat,

672
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:46.199
<v Speaker 1>and Andy says, okay, you know, Meredith, how did you

673
00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:49.840
<v Speaker 1>feel when you saw Mary Whitney and Bramwin having that

674
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.599
<v Speaker 1>lunch and talking about your mood swings and that they

675
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:55.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, Mary cries she's worried for you, and she's well,

676
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:58.159
<v Speaker 1>that made me sad. But there was no truth to it,

677
00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:01.599
<v Speaker 1>and it came it came off on camera that they

678
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:04.800
<v Speaker 1>were making accusations about me, and Proba was like, nobody

679
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:09.119
<v Speaker 1>was making an accusation. Now they were implying she had

680
00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:11.679
<v Speaker 1>some sort of drinking yourselvesis problem, like.

681
00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh, or mental health like mental health left it open. Yeah,

682
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:18.639
<v Speaker 2>something's off. Her behavior was off, her mood swings were off,

683
00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:21.960
<v Speaker 2>and they noticed it and they're worried. And I think

684
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:28.760
<v Speaker 2>it showed, especially Mary concern, but Meredith like she has

685
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 2>to keep It's almost like she's convincing herself that there's

686
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:34.440
<v Speaker 2>no problem by repeating that there's no problem.

687
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.159
<v Speaker 1>And I they showed the clip of Mary talking to

688
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:40.440
<v Speaker 1>her about the plane, yeah, and Marrit goes, well, it

689
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:44.840
<v Speaker 1>was like five minutes, and she was like, no, it wasn't.

690
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:49.679
<v Speaker 1>You know, we've never seen Mary Cosby drunk or pop

691
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:52.320
<v Speaker 1>an ambient or anything. So listen. If there's anybody that's

692
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:56.000
<v Speaker 1>a reliable narrator from this group, I think it's Mary.

693
00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:58.599
<v Speaker 1>You could rely on her to kind of be sober

694
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and see what's happening.

695
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:04.320
<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, all of it's very odd. I don't

696
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:07.400
<v Speaker 2>know what it means for Meredith and the future of

697
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:09.039
<v Speaker 2>her on the show, because it seems like she has

698
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:11.239
<v Speaker 2>an issue with production. She doesn't like anyone on the

699
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:13.679
<v Speaker 2>cast except for Lisa, and that seems to be more

700
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:18.639
<v Speaker 2>of an alliance than a true friendship. And she just

701
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:21.239
<v Speaker 2>doesn't seem to want to show certain things like it's

702
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:26.079
<v Speaker 2>like as if she's on there solely to promote her brand. Right,

703
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:30.239
<v Speaker 2>and now she's got Caviat, she's Djane, she's got her jewelry.

704
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, she has her family that is on the

705
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:38.199
<v Speaker 2>new show in New York. You know, she's not what

706
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:41.039
<v Speaker 2>she's wanted. I think out of the show, and I

707
00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:42.199
<v Speaker 2>think she's over it.

708
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, Bronwin kind of addresses the fact that she

709
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>was acting as Meredith's assistant and reporting things back to her,

710
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:53.679
<v Speaker 1>and then and then, you know, bron was like, and

711
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:55.119
<v Speaker 1>then you would act like it didn't happen, or and

712
00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:57.599
<v Speaker 1>you would purposely do things off camera so that would

713
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:00.760
<v Speaker 1>make me look bad. And and then and says all

714
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>of us have to have these hard conversations, So why

715
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:05.239
<v Speaker 1>are you a buffet? And Meyer was like, I've never

716
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:10.360
<v Speaker 1>bram was that she feels used by Meredith. Meredith does

717
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>stuff off camera. Then we see the whole thing that

718
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:15.719
<v Speaker 1>I again, I love when they do these splashbucks because

719
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I totally forgot Meredith when she was in the bathtub

720
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.920
<v Speaker 1>telling Lisa that Brittany was like drinking all day, throwing

721
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:25.760
<v Speaker 1>up and continuing to drink and all this stuff, and

722
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:28.639
<v Speaker 1>they were like, well that sounds like an alcoholic And

723
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:30.840
<v Speaker 1>she got that information from Braman and brom was like,

724
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry that I did any of that, you know,

725
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:37.920
<v Speaker 1>And Meredith, Meredith on her give her credit, said I

726
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:40.519
<v Speaker 1>want to circle back and say that if you didn't

727
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:42.800
<v Speaker 1>hear me. I am sorry. I was not using you

728
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:44.800
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't want it to come off that way.

729
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:49.440
<v Speaker 1>And Rob was like, I accept Lisa and she kind

730
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.679
<v Speaker 1>of have a fight about, you know, Lisa being superfessional,

731
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:55.239
<v Speaker 1>and Lisa goes, I don't want to go backwards and

732
00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:57.079
<v Speaker 1>only want to move forwards. I was like, well, you're

733
00:37:57.119 --> 00:37:58.800
<v Speaker 1>on the wrong show because it's all you guys do.

734
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:02.480
<v Speaker 2>And Lisa also always goes backwards, like the second she's upset,

735
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:04.920
<v Speaker 2>she goes immediately back to the last time she was

736
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.400
<v Speaker 2>offended or another time she was offended. Like she cannot

737
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:11.039
<v Speaker 2>move forwards. There are some people that really can, and

738
00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:13.320
<v Speaker 2>she's just not one of them, and it's annoying that

739
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:15.119
<v Speaker 2>she keeps bringing it up. I also thought it was

740
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:18.199
<v Speaker 2>notable that Meredith did apologize to Bronwyin because I feel

741
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:20.440
<v Speaker 2>like she's trying to think about her future on the show,

742
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:23.199
<v Speaker 2>and I think she does enjoy Bronwin as a person,

743
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:27.440
<v Speaker 2>and I think she finds her less off putting than

744
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:30.599
<v Speaker 2>the others, and so she's like, well, I need to

745
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:33.239
<v Speaker 2>have some friends going in. You know. If she's stay,

746
00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:35.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if she wants to stay, I don't know.

747
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:39.719
<v Speaker 1>But but anyway, they wrap up with what they've learned.

748
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Heather talks about how much she cherishes the friendships and

749
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Ron when says she's learning that change can be good.

750
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Lisa says, you know what, I'm going to work on, Andy,

751
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:53.920
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna really like this one intake, you know, like

752
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm like into I'm going to take things. I'm going

753
00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:59.079
<v Speaker 1>to listen more intake and Andy goes good, and so

754
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:01.320
<v Speaker 1>everybody goes good and he starts to move on. She

755
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:03.360
<v Speaker 1>was like, didn't you like that one that's for you?

756
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:07.800
<v Speaker 1>That was good? Intake Andy, He's like, okay, I got it.

757
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:11.239
<v Speaker 1>The end, Oh pop. I thought it was a great

758
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:13.559
<v Speaker 1>three part reunion. Sometimes the readniws don't need to be

759
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.079
<v Speaker 1>that long. I thought this one we needed all three parts.

760
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I agree.

761
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:20.159
<v Speaker 2>I wish they had spent a little more time going

762
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:23.159
<v Speaker 2>like it's almost like we could only get to certain

763
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:26.039
<v Speaker 2>levels because certain people just refuse to talk, right, So

764
00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:28.960
<v Speaker 2>we couldn't really get into the plain thing in the

765
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:30.840
<v Speaker 2>way that I think we all wanted because she just

766
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:33.719
<v Speaker 2>refused to talk and Lisa refused to talk too, And

767
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:36.760
<v Speaker 2>then when it came to the like, I don't know

768
00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:44.000
<v Speaker 2>the manicurist to the anti Semitic manicurist like kind of

769
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:45.519
<v Speaker 2>a sounds kind of crazy.

770
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's like it's like the Haitian mortician the anti

771
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:51.559
<v Speaker 1>Semitic manicurist exactly.

772
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:55.559
<v Speaker 2>And I really wish we had more of an opportunity

773
00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:58.280
<v Speaker 2>to like get into that, because that really feels like

774
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:03.119
<v Speaker 2>that's where all of her anger towards Brittany was coming from,

775
00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:06.880
<v Speaker 2>and then was really obnoxious when she's like, I did

776
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:09.119
<v Speaker 2>nothing to Brittany and she chose me and she just

777
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:11.559
<v Speaker 2>was mean to me from the beginning. And Andy's like

778
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:14.760
<v Speaker 2>maybe who's also Jewish by the way, was like maybe

779
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:17.840
<v Speaker 2>she didn't like you, and Meredith implying that she was

780
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:20.079
<v Speaker 2>rude because she was Jewish, which I think is that

781
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:23.000
<v Speaker 2>is taking it a step too far, like putting a

782
00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:26.760
<v Speaker 2>good review on someone who is like being accused publicly

783
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:30.760
<v Speaker 2>in the papers in Salt Lake of being anti cement.

784
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:33.079
<v Speaker 2>It is very different than like, you didn't like me

785
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:37.440
<v Speaker 2>and it must be because I'm Jewish, Like that sucks, yeah.

786
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:40.760
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think I felt like Adie was just

787
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:42.320
<v Speaker 1>like maybe you guys just don't like each other.

788
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because that's true, and that's what she should have

789
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:48.920
<v Speaker 2>taken Brittany's behavior like she can't say like, oh, you

790
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:52.119
<v Speaker 2>don't like me. It must be because I'm Jewish. This

791
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.239
<v Speaker 2>is not a good no. And that's not like A.

792
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:58.400
<v Speaker 2>And I get why Brittany's so upset because it's a

793
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:01.119
<v Speaker 2>it's not great to be called Sartain things. You know.

794
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, Meredith said the pill popping ruined her reputation or

795
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:09.039
<v Speaker 1>I highlighted it. I don't know. Beverly Hills. I'm going

796
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>to talk about briefly. I did enjoy there was a

797
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:16.679
<v Speaker 1>scene this past week with Rachel going into what goes

798
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:20.440
<v Speaker 1>around comes around in Beverly Hills. I've been in that

799
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:23.400
<v Speaker 1>store and the sales clerk that was in that store

800
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>is the sales clerk the way to not be. I

801
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:29.639
<v Speaker 1>texted Ingram immediately and I was like, it's that girl

802
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>that's there.

803
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.679
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I loved that scene with her in Bows because

804
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:38.760
<v Speaker 2>I feel like she really likes bos you know, and

805
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:41.519
<v Speaker 2>I think Bose likes her. They're both like very powerful

806
00:41:41.559 --> 00:41:44.199
<v Speaker 2>women that don't need to remind everyone of how powerful

807
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:48.039
<v Speaker 2>they are. And you can just tell that that is

808
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:52.400
<v Speaker 2>like her, like she's in the zone, like she is

809
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:55.559
<v Speaker 2>in her element when she's in a place with vintage clothing.

810
00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:57.880
<v Speaker 2>I knew none of what she was talking about. It

811
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:00.559
<v Speaker 2>felt like she was speaking in foreign language. And she

812
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:02.880
<v Speaker 2>was just like the amount of energy she had, you know,

813
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:07.239
<v Speaker 2>normally she's like I die and she's like Chanelle blah

814
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:10.159
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah blah from the nineteen eighties. I'm like what,

815
00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:13.760
<v Speaker 2>But that's what gets her going. And it's fun to

816
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:17.239
<v Speaker 2>watch because it is an art. Like how she dresses

817
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:20.039
<v Speaker 2>herself as an art, how she dresses others is an art.

818
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Her architecture of her house is an art. Like everything

819
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:26.639
<v Speaker 2>about her has art in it. And it's just fun

820
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:29.239
<v Speaker 2>to see someone in their element, you know. And I

821
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:30.400
<v Speaker 2>just I loved it.

822
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I loved it when Bo's was trying in that story,

823
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:35.519
<v Speaker 1>trying to explain to her about what Amanda does and

824
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:38.280
<v Speaker 1>She's like, no, wait, I thought she was a manifestor

825
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:41.519
<v Speaker 1>boss like which.

826
00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:44.679
<v Speaker 2>She is, Like, she is a manifestor and that claims

827
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:46.079
<v Speaker 2>that you can manifest.

828
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Money money, and Bos goes, I've never seen anybody give

829
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:52.079
<v Speaker 1>business advice that has literally never had a job, Like,

830
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:54.320
<v Speaker 1>how did you get your money? Like you have to

831
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:56.239
<v Speaker 1>have a business plan. I loved how Bo's was like,

832
00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't, and I love how. Rachel's like, I'm so confused.

833
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Am I okay? Moses like, no, you're not okay, You're

834
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:06.480
<v Speaker 1>not getting it. She doesn't have a job. She writes

835
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:10.880
<v Speaker 1>books telling people how to manifest money. And she's like,

836
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:13.519
<v Speaker 1>but she has a job. She's like, no, she doesn't.

837
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:18.159
<v Speaker 1>It was it's interesting. Now let's talk about this. Okay,

838
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:21.679
<v Speaker 1>So Sutton and Jennifer Tilly don't. I don't want to

839
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:24.880
<v Speaker 1>see these two queens having a fight. I don't like it.

840
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:27.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, I love Sutton, I love Jennifer Tilly. How

841
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:32.519
<v Speaker 1>did you feel about Kyle telling Sutton what Jennifer Tilly said?

842
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't like it. She's good and she had to

843
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:36.800
<v Speaker 1>my guests because of the show, but.

844
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:39.679
<v Speaker 2>I just doing it as like a work thing. And

845
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:42.599
<v Speaker 2>I think she also knew that Jennifer Tilly and Sutton

846
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:44.599
<v Speaker 2>are so close that they would like make up. But

847
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:46.440
<v Speaker 2>she was like, I have to do my part and

848
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:48.880
<v Speaker 2>causing some sort of drama or being part of some

849
00:43:48.920 --> 00:43:52.360
<v Speaker 2>sort of drama. That's what I thought, because just the

850
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:54.800
<v Speaker 2>fact that they like cleaned it up so quickly. I

851
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:57.760
<v Speaker 2>even think Sutton overblew how angry she was with Jennifer

852
00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:01.119
<v Speaker 2>Tilly like to Erica to try and like make it

853
00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:02.320
<v Speaker 2>more of a thing than it was.

854
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I love how she's telling Eric and Aaron's like, oh shit, yeah,

855
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I wow.

856
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Love Erica this season. I am obsessed with like and

857
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:16.519
<v Speaker 2>I love when she's nice to people because, like her

858
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:20.840
<v Speaker 2>way of being nice is so unique, right, like not

859
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:23.239
<v Speaker 2>this episode, but last episode or whatever episode it was

860
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:26.039
<v Speaker 2>where Sutton was like losing her mind and she was like,

861
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:28.679
<v Speaker 2>don't let this bring you to a bad space. We're

862
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:30.840
<v Speaker 2>all in a really good place with you, you know

863
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:32.840
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. Like it's coming from her, it just

864
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:36.039
<v Speaker 2>means so much because she says so few words and

865
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:39.400
<v Speaker 2>so few words that are like encouraging that it just

866
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:41.960
<v Speaker 2>means the world. So when I love seeing her be

867
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:46.199
<v Speaker 2>nice to others, Yeah, it's a good look on her.

868
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:48.760
<v Speaker 2>I think she has it in her. She pretended she

869
00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:50.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't know what empathy was, but I think she does.

870
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:53.679
<v Speaker 1>At that time, I think she was so blocked by

871
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:56.719
<v Speaker 1>the world. She Yeah, she definitely didn't know what empathy.

872
00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:59.039
<v Speaker 2>Was, right, she was seeing herself as a victim.

873
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:02.199
<v Speaker 1>Now we were introduced, and I forgot about this, So

874
00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I watched this right before we recorded that this new

875
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:09.000
<v Speaker 1>girl Natalie came in that was married to Simon Fuller,

876
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:11.400
<v Speaker 1>and she came out.

877
00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:13.039
<v Speaker 2>I like, don't know these people.

878
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me tell you who Simon. I'm like,

879
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I know, but I'm but I'm going to say it.

880
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:22.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say it wrong. Simon Fuller a British entrepreneur.

881
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:28.320
<v Speaker 1>He's a he's a a big producer and like a manager, right,

882
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:33.679
<v Speaker 1>and he's not Simon Cowell. He's a different person and televisions.

883
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:39.119
<v Speaker 1>He's the creator. He's the creator of American Idol, Okay

884
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and God just as the production side. So yeah, he

885
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:49.360
<v Speaker 1>is a big deal and he's very very wealthy. And

886
00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:51.840
<v Speaker 1>so he's married to this girl Natalie, and she comes

887
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:53.760
<v Speaker 1>as rachel Zo's friend. I was like, okay, is this

888
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:55.960
<v Speaker 1>a friend of because we spent a lot of time

889
00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:59.599
<v Speaker 1>talking about her outfit and meeting her, So she must

890
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:00.320
<v Speaker 1>be a friend up.

891
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Huh, I think so, because she's in next week, like

892
00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:07.360
<v Speaker 2>the promo for next week I thought I saw her also, Okay,

893
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:12.119
<v Speaker 2>So I'm interested in her totally, And I like anyone

894
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:14.599
<v Speaker 2>that rachel Zo brings because I like rachel Zo so much,

895
00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:18.079
<v Speaker 2>and I think she likes to keep interesting people around

896
00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:20.719
<v Speaker 2>her that stories, do you know what I mean? That's

897
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:24.559
<v Speaker 2>why she kind of connected with Bo's That's why I

898
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:28.599
<v Speaker 2>think she connects with Kathy, like people who have shit

899
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:30.559
<v Speaker 2>that they've seen life.

900
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:35.679
<v Speaker 1>You know, what did you think about Amanda making fun

901
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:40.840
<v Speaker 1>of Jerreet not writing her own book? And then there's like, shit,

902
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't write my book. We're like, yeah, we know,

903
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I know.

904
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:47.840
<v Speaker 2>I love that. Erica said that it's the fact that

905
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:49.199
<v Speaker 2>she brought it up. I think twice.

906
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.039
<v Speaker 1>It was three times. Three times.

907
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she didn't do it just once.

908
00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:56.800
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I thought everybody wrote their own books. I mean,

909
00:46:56.800 --> 00:46:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I guess because I'm an author, because

910
00:46:58.920 --> 00:46:59.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm a writer.

911
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:03.320
<v Speaker 2>I was like, girl, everyone knows that there are ghost writers,

912
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:08.079
<v Speaker 2>especially for people who you know, aren't writers themselves, and

913
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:10.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, people to help. And what I would have

914
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:11.719
<v Speaker 2>done if I had like put my foot in my

915
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:13.199
<v Speaker 2>mouth like that, I would have been like, oh, tell

916
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:15.920
<v Speaker 2>me about this mother daughter duo, Like why do you

917
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:17.960
<v Speaker 2>think they're the right fit? Right?

918
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I would do ways around it. But she just kept going.

919
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she she does this thing, and rachel Zo clocked

920
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:27.880
<v Speaker 2>it where she has to put other people down to

921
00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:31.719
<v Speaker 2>lift herself up and I love that Rachel, Zoe and

922
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:35.639
<v Speaker 2>Bo's like they and Kathy Hilton like they don't have

923
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:39.960
<v Speaker 2>to do that. They're just elevated, right, And they are not.

924
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:45.440
<v Speaker 2>And Amanda is very insecure and that's why she does it.

925
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:48.079
<v Speaker 2>People who act like when she was like, oh, I

926
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:50.559
<v Speaker 2>feel like I belong in every space that I go into.

927
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:52.480
<v Speaker 2>When she said that, I was like, that's a person

928
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:55.000
<v Speaker 2>who doesn't feel like they belong in every space they

929
00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:58.000
<v Speaker 2>go into. And basically she's a fake it to you

930
00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:01.199
<v Speaker 2>get person where she fake sit so much that she's

931
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:04.719
<v Speaker 2>like making it kind of a thing. But her talking

932
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:06.039
<v Speaker 2>obnoxious and deep.

933
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Dot I think she's I think she studied every episode

934
00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:13.599
<v Speaker 1>of this show. I think she's this is her chance

935
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:16.400
<v Speaker 1>and she's going to take it. And I will say

936
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:18.960
<v Speaker 1>this week, the storyline, you know, she had a child

937
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:21.920
<v Speaker 1>that died, is the twin of her other son that

938
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:26.480
<v Speaker 1>is still alive. This is completely devastating. There's not any

939
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:29.400
<v Speaker 1>human on the world that would wouldn't agree that this

940
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:32.840
<v Speaker 1>is devastating. It's a devastating time for their family, and

941
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:37.559
<v Speaker 1>the anniversary rolls around and it's terrible. I appreciate the

942
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:43.840
<v Speaker 1>scene with her and her husband talking about it. But listen,

943
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I think sitting at that dinner and then having somebody

944
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:49.519
<v Speaker 1>bring something up against her and then go, oh, you're

945
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:54.280
<v Speaker 1>you're insensitive because you're not understanding, and then Durita saying, Okay,

946
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:55.760
<v Speaker 1>well then we don't have to talk about it, and

947
00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:57.159
<v Speaker 1>she goes, but don't you think it's bad that you're

948
00:48:57.159 --> 00:48:59.199
<v Speaker 1>talking about Pka's alcoholism? And she's like, do you want

949
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:00.719
<v Speaker 1>to talk about it or not to talk about it?

950
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:05.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, I felt like Dery should have just taken

951
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:07.519
<v Speaker 2>the note and just immediately dropped it.

952
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry, and then let's change the subject.

953
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, didn't you know what? We can talk about

954
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:16.440
<v Speaker 2>this another time. Yeah, totally. It was just it's one

955
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:19.360
<v Speaker 2>of those things that's just yeah, you can use it

956
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.679
<v Speaker 2>to shut down a conversation, but I and she was

957
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.519
<v Speaker 2>using it to shut down a conversation. But it's also

958
00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I would rather hear like her talk more about that

959
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:32.639
<v Speaker 2>experience and having the other women talk to her. I

960
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:37.719
<v Speaker 2>actually think that Bose would benefit to have a conversation

961
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:40.480
<v Speaker 2>with the me because Bo's lost a child. Yes I

962
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:44.440
<v Speaker 2>believe too, or maybe it wasn't born yet, but you

963
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:48.199
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like far along, and the twin

964
00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:52.239
<v Speaker 2>situation is so much more common than people realize. Where

965
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:57.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, twin pregnancies are are very dangerous, they are,

966
00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:01.280
<v Speaker 2>they're complicated, and there's so many different types of twin

967
00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:04.719
<v Speaker 2>pregnancies and the placenta and who gets most of what

968
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:09.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's all very delicate and there's a lot

969
00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:13.039
<v Speaker 2>more of these scenarios than people realize. And especially if

970
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:16.239
<v Speaker 2>they're both born the same day and one remains, you're

971
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:20.880
<v Speaker 2>always reminded of the child that you lost in a

972
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:23.679
<v Speaker 2>way that's different than even if you just not that

973
00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:26.519
<v Speaker 2>it's better or worse, just different than if you just

974
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:30.199
<v Speaker 2>lost a child. Like this is you have to celebrate

975
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:33.639
<v Speaker 2>one and also more in the loss of the other.

976
00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:36.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like trying to hold space for both, which is

977
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:40.760
<v Speaker 2>very complex emotionally, I think, very and.

978
00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:43.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's why I was interested in the conversation with

979
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:44.880
<v Speaker 1>her and her husband and her sort of stay into

980
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:48.320
<v Speaker 1>the psychic My husband feels my son more and I don't,

981
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:52.320
<v Speaker 1>And all of that was very interesting to me. And

982
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:55.079
<v Speaker 1>I think production did the rest of the ladies a

983
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:59.000
<v Speaker 1>disservice by not letting them know this was going on,

984
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:01.239
<v Speaker 1>because I think if the rest of the ladies would

985
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:03.599
<v Speaker 1>have known, then they wouldn't have been like, ooh, at

986
00:51:03.639 --> 00:51:06.760
<v Speaker 1>the table, you know, Durite's gonna bring this up because

987
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:10.320
<v Speaker 1>like or hate Dared or whatever. She definitely is not

988
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:13.039
<v Speaker 1>such an asshole that she would want to hurt someone

989
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:15.719
<v Speaker 1>in that way. But you know, then it kept going

990
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:17.559
<v Speaker 1>like Uri would go, you're right, we're not going to

991
00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:19.719
<v Speaker 1>talk about it. But then Amanda would bring it back up,

992
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:21.119
<v Speaker 1>and Jury's like, are we going to talk about it

993
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:22.880
<v Speaker 1>or not? But she didn't shut it.

994
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Down right away. I feel like shut it down right away.

995
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:27.679
<v Speaker 2>She just kind of kept talking around it like it

996
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:30.880
<v Speaker 2>because she can't stop talking, so she ends up talking

997
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:34.519
<v Speaker 2>herself with the footnote because she can't shut up. Like

998
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:36.480
<v Speaker 2>all she had to do was like, I'm really sorry

999
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:41.280
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that, and we can discuss this another time.

1000
00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I wish I think she would have told them so

1001
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:45.440
<v Speaker 1>that they wouldn't have brought up anything.

1002
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Say things like that, because really, yeah, I think they

1003
00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:55.280
<v Speaker 2>just film right what happens, and they may not all know.

1004
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:58.199
<v Speaker 2>It may just be like a couple people the producers

1005
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:00.280
<v Speaker 2>or whatever that know, and maybe they weren't involved in

1006
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:05.199
<v Speaker 2>the filming of the group event. So and it is interesting.

1007
00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know because they get they did twice. They

1008
00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:10.599
<v Speaker 1>showed Kathy twice going is that your dog? And she's

1009
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:13.320
<v Speaker 1>like my child? And I was like, she was confused,

1010
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:16.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah she was. Wasn't trying to be funny, she wasn't

1011
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:17.519
<v Speaker 1>trying confused.

1012
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:21.880
<v Speaker 2>And then when she got read. I really appreciated watching

1013
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Kathy be empathetic and kind because she was like wet

1014
00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:29.039
<v Speaker 2>and got to read and was like, come on, go apologize.

1015
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:31.880
<v Speaker 2>And then you know, I get it when Amanda was like,

1016
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:36.119
<v Speaker 2>don't touch me. I got that, like and then you know,

1017
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:38.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like you're going to apologize, but then you're going

1018
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:41.559
<v Speaker 2>to still keep explaining yourself, Like stop the explaining of yourself,

1019
00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:45.519
<v Speaker 2>stop the butts. Just say like I'm really really sorry.

1020
00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Would give you a hug? Yeah, I'll leave you alone.

1021
00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Would you mind if I give you a hug? I

1022
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:54.719
<v Speaker 2>am terribly sorry. Like I think in those moments where

1023
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:57.559
<v Speaker 2>someone is so emotional, it's just really important to like

1024
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:01.199
<v Speaker 2>ask fre consent to touch that. If you don't have

1025
00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:04.199
<v Speaker 2>a close relationship where you usually touch them, do you

1026
00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:06.199
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? This is like a close friends.

1027
00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:09.800
<v Speaker 2>So I felt very bad for Amanda in that situation,

1028
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:12.000
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like the dinner could have totally gone

1029
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:14.920
<v Speaker 2>differently if they had given her space to talk and

1030
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:19.599
<v Speaker 2>then and maybe like share a bit about I don't

1031
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:23.039
<v Speaker 2>know her current I can't remember. It was like Zion

1032
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:30.280
<v Speaker 2>and Canaan kiss that very biblical names, So I don't

1033
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:32.599
<v Speaker 2>know if it's like they were like, well, how you know,

1034
00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:37.079
<v Speaker 2>how is Canan's third birthday? Is that, you know, like

1035
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:40.480
<v Speaker 2>they could get a conversation and we could have gotten

1036
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:42.559
<v Speaker 2>to know a different side of hers.

1037
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<v Speaker 1>I just wish that the thing wouldn't have gotten brought up,

1038
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I know, because it was you know, you could see

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00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:51.199
<v Speaker 1>everybody's face is genuinely like, oh God, this is awkward.

1040
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<v Speaker 1>And then what do you say because it is such

1041
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:57.480
<v Speaker 1>a serious, dark, deep wound, and then we're bringing it

1042
00:53:57.559 --> 00:54:00.559
<v Speaker 1>up at dinner. And then of course at the same time,

1043
00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:03.519
<v Speaker 1>they don't like Amanda, so they're like, okay, you know,

1044
00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:05.159
<v Speaker 1>now she's just going to use this to get out,

1045
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:08.320
<v Speaker 1>like Meredith using I couldn't doctor Brooks on Mother's Day

1046
00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:11.000
<v Speaker 1>to get out of a conversation. So it's like Amanda

1047
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:13.039
<v Speaker 1>can't win in this situation no matter what. So she

1048
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:14.519
<v Speaker 1>did the best thing to be like I'm just gonna

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00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:16.320
<v Speaker 1>go home, and I shouldn't have come because she shouldn't

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00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:16.639
<v Speaker 1>have come.

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00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:19.159
<v Speaker 2>I think, actually I think she should have come just

1052
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:21.239
<v Speaker 2>the way that Bow's you know, I mean, two days

1053
00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:23.480
<v Speaker 2>after uh egg retrieval you can get I mean, I

1054
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:25.840
<v Speaker 2>guess it depends on how it goes, right, But like,

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00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:28.920
<v Speaker 2>if you're feeling emotional and you have all the hormones

1056
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:31.119
<v Speaker 2>and you're still in a little bit of pain, then like, yeah,

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00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:33.719
<v Speaker 2>stay at home, right, Like did.

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00:54:33.599 --> 00:54:36.719
<v Speaker 1>You see that that whoever is that doctor she's using

1059
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:39.920
<v Speaker 1>is like shut down now?

1060
00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:42.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, I was wondering because.

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00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:45.440
<v Speaker 1>It's it seems people are like, first of all, this

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00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:48.800
<v Speaker 1>doctor is not using correct doctor language, whoever this doctor is,

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00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:52.840
<v Speaker 1>And then people somebody posted in one of the various

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00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Bravo Facebook groups and it was a picture of the

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00:54:56.000 --> 00:55:00.039
<v Speaker 1>front door of that woman's practice. It was like, the

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00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:01.559
<v Speaker 1>have been taken because you haven't paid your rent.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a red flag that she was

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00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:07.559
<v Speaker 2>flying to Nevada to do something that you could do

1069
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:08.800
<v Speaker 2>easier in La.

1070
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Right, you're maybe in La.

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00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But I think there are sometimes rules that a

1072
00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:21.880
<v Speaker 2>practice may have over age or different circumstances. And I'm

1073
00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:23.960
<v Speaker 2>someone who went through it where I froze my eggs

1074
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:26.360
<v Speaker 2>and I have a medical condition that made it so

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00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:29.199
<v Speaker 2>that my eggs stopped being produced at a very young age.

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00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:32.199
<v Speaker 2>So I went through very similar to her, where it's

1077
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:34.159
<v Speaker 2>like you see six and then you get too kind

1078
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:37.199
<v Speaker 2>of a thing, like you don't get what you think

1079
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:40.400
<v Speaker 2>you're going to get, and it's a lot of poking

1080
00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:44.079
<v Speaker 2>and potting and blood taking and not not. You don't

1081
00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:46.639
<v Speaker 2>really get what you want out of it, and the

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00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:50.119
<v Speaker 2>odds are not in your favor. And at her age,

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00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:53.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, I did it when I was like thirty six.

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00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:56.119
<v Speaker 2>That's very different than doing it at like forty eight,

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00:55:56.159 --> 00:55:59.280
<v Speaker 2>which is how old I think she is. And there

1086
00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:03.280
<v Speaker 2>are a lot of like risks of pumping yourself with

1087
00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:05.599
<v Speaker 2>that many hormones, there are a lot of things that

1088
00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:08.960
<v Speaker 2>can go wrong. I think flying, I hope they drove

1089
00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:13.039
<v Speaker 2>to get to Nevada, because like, I don't think flying

1090
00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:15.320
<v Speaker 2>with all of that is a good idea. Like there's

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00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:18.719
<v Speaker 2>just and so I'm not shocked that that place is

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<v Speaker 2>shut down.

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00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I think doctor, it might not be. Yeah, this is

1094
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:23.760
<v Speaker 1>all allegedly. We don't know about the doctor, but it

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00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:25.079
<v Speaker 1>does seem a little sketch.

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00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:28.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, it seems sketch to leave the state when you're

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00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:31.599
<v Speaker 2>in LA. It just that sketch NonStop.

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00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:33.360
<v Speaker 1>That you're in Los Angeles, conforts.

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00:56:33.960 --> 00:56:36.519
<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles had like a cutoff of a certain age,

1100
00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:38.719
<v Speaker 2>like we're not going to work with women over forty six,

1101
00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:40.440
<v Speaker 2>so we're not going to work with women or whatever

1102
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:44.880
<v Speaker 2>the age is. Yeah, or we're not gonna implant it

1103
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:47.800
<v Speaker 2>in you because the health risks are too high. And

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00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:50.199
<v Speaker 2>you it's not just your age, it's that you've had

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00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:55.639
<v Speaker 2>two previous pregnancies that had that were very dangerous. Yeah, right,

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00:56:56.800 --> 00:57:00.559
<v Speaker 2>and so yeah, I don't know. I also really didn't

1107
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:01.880
<v Speaker 2>like that She's like, I'm not sure what's going to

1108
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:04.559
<v Speaker 2>happen if this doesn't work because of heally killy, And

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00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:08.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, get an egg donor like adopt, Like there's

1110
00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:10.679
<v Speaker 2>so many options.

1111
00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Lots of choices.

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00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Why does not have choice or egg? Like when if

1113
00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:16.760
<v Speaker 2>you're going through and if if a medical professional is

1114
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:21.320
<v Speaker 2>telling you this isn't really a good idea, which I

1115
00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:23.360
<v Speaker 2>think she had heard from others, which is why she

1116
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:26.920
<v Speaker 2>turned to this place in Nevada. Yeah. I mean, but people,

1117
00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:29.039
<v Speaker 2>when you're desperate and when you really want something, you're

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00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:32.280
<v Speaker 2>willing to listen to whoever you know, and you're like,

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00:57:32.320 --> 00:57:34.559
<v Speaker 2>they have a doctor, you know, they have a doctor degree,

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00:57:34.599 --> 00:57:36.960
<v Speaker 2>they medical degree, like you know.

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00:57:36.960 --> 00:57:39.159
<v Speaker 1>They have they have a clinic. That must be fine.

1122
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and or talk to someone that had success, right,

1123
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:46.960
<v Speaker 2>that was also older, you know, and it can like yeah, Kenya,

1124
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:49.199
<v Speaker 2>look at she carried out. That's true.

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00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:54.920
<v Speaker 1>You know who else had a clinic? Denise's husband airy,

1126
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh well that's it. Yeah.

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00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:02.760
<v Speaker 2>I actually couldn't watch her show because of him, Like

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00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:06.760
<v Speaker 2>he is such a fraud and he made money and

1129
00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:10.280
<v Speaker 2>took money from people who are very desperate with cancer,

1130
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:15.400
<v Speaker 2>saying yeah with lasers, and it's just it's sad to

1131
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:19.159
<v Speaker 2>watch it's and he seems to be a horrible man

1132
00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:21.760
<v Speaker 2>and his family seems horrible as well. And so I

1133
00:58:21.840 --> 00:58:23.599
<v Speaker 2>was right and to not watch that show because I

1134
00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:26.920
<v Speaker 2>couldn't his energy I could feel through the screen. I

1135
00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:29.039
<v Speaker 2>was like, this is so dark and disgusting, and like,

1136
00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:32.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't feel good or safe watching this.

1137
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:35.440
<v Speaker 1>And did you see that his mom started to gofund

1138
00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:37.679
<v Speaker 1>me for him. Is said it was for it was

1139
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:43.039
<v Speaker 1>for him and her granddaughter. She's claiming, you know, the

1140
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:47.840
<v Speaker 1>daughter Eloie claiming that's her granddaughter, and that it's starting

1141
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:50.639
<v Speaker 1>a GoFundMe they were gonna be he and Eloise would

1142
00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:55.159
<v Speaker 1>be homeless, which of course is not the case. And yeah,

1143
00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:57.199
<v Speaker 1>they'll be interesting when she comes back on our screen.

1144
00:58:57.519 --> 00:58:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll be interesting.

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00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm wondering did did her husband have custody of Eloise? Like,

1146
00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:09.480
<v Speaker 2>did he ever file formal adoption papers? Because that could.

1147
00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:12.719
<v Speaker 1>Be I kind of feel like no, I feel like

1148
00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:15.719
<v Speaker 1>I thought single and then.

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00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:18.880
<v Speaker 2>She met Aaron, so he has no legal rights to her.

1150
00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:21.840
<v Speaker 1>No legal rights. But maybe you know, she's like they

1151
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:24.360
<v Speaker 1>could spend time together because Eloise does know him. But

1152
00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:26.880
<v Speaker 1>if everything we don't know about him is true, then

1153
00:59:26.920 --> 00:59:27.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe not. Yeah.

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00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think if he was physically violent with her

1155
00:59:31.320 --> 00:59:33.239
<v Speaker 2>in front of Eloise, that's the reason not to have

1156
00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Eloise near him.

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00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when we don't know, it's all legit. Don't don't

1158
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:41.360
<v Speaker 1>come at us, Aaron Fifers whatever you can come at me.

1159
00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I think you're a piece of shit and I don't

1160
00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:48.800
<v Speaker 2>think you have your name. You can't sue me. I'm

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00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:51.199
<v Speaker 2>more my big account that he has in his He

1162
00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:53.920
<v Speaker 2>said he had no money, and I'm going to take

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00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:55.519
<v Speaker 2>him at his word.

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<v Speaker 1>May Oh Mandy. You're so funny, man, Mandy, tell people

1165
01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:07.159
<v Speaker 1>where they can find your podcast that I love so much.

1166
01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:11.840
<v Speaker 2>You can find me at is This Real Life with

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01:00:11.960 --> 01:00:16.159
<v Speaker 2>Mandy Slutsker, anywhere that you listen to podcasts, Spotify, Apple Podcasts.

1168
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:19.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there are other, you know, avenues. And I'm

1169
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:26.039
<v Speaker 2>at Mandy Slutsker on Instagram and I'm also on threads recently.

1170
01:00:26.599 --> 01:00:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Still unsure how to use threads, but I enjoy it

1171
01:00:29.519 --> 01:00:32.880
<v Speaker 2>because the algorithm for me has been like way more

1172
01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:36.559
<v Speaker 2>positive and some of the people that I like. I'm

1173
01:00:36.599 --> 01:00:41.039
<v Speaker 2>only on Twitter to follow to follow Capital Weather Gang,

1174
01:00:41.880 --> 01:00:43.840
<v Speaker 2>which did help me out when I was in a

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01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:46.920
<v Speaker 2>vine and Gran came in last week. They told me

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01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:49.159
<v Speaker 2>not to mess with my flight and I didn't and

1177
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I got home. So I'm grateful for them. And I

1178
01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:56.119
<v Speaker 2>follow this one journalist, Jake Sherman, who always knows what's

1179
01:00:56.119 --> 01:00:59.800
<v Speaker 2>happening in Capitol Hill before it actually happens. But now

1180
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:01.960
<v Speaker 2>you can find them on threads, which is just so

1181
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:05.079
<v Speaker 2>much more pleasant because the algorithm, for whatever reason, is

1182
01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:12.039
<v Speaker 2>just giving me more positive stuff. And Joe does yeah yeah,

1183
01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:14.360
<v Speaker 2>And someone was like, oh wait, you just haven't gotten

1184
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:16.679
<v Speaker 2>to like the bad part of threads. Yet I was like,

1185
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:19.440
<v Speaker 2>maybe the things that I'm consuming are like giving me

1186
01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:23.079
<v Speaker 2>more good things. But with Twitter, I can consume good

1187
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:26.199
<v Speaker 2>stuff and it will like throw me like absolute shit.

1188
01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to show you a bunch of videos that

1189
01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:32.119
<v Speaker 2>are going to ruin your day and a bunch of

1190
01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:35.119
<v Speaker 2>people that are really mean and hate each other and

1191
01:01:35.159 --> 01:01:37.559
<v Speaker 2>going at it and not solving any problems.

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01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:41.039
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and that's too bad because Twitter used to be fun.

1193
01:01:41.239 --> 01:01:45.039
<v Speaker 1>But threads, I don't. I don't quite understand threads either,

1194
01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:46.840
<v Speaker 1>because it's like you have to pick a subject and

1195
01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:48.960
<v Speaker 1>then maybe it drops things happen below that.

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01:01:49.159 --> 01:01:52.320
<v Speaker 2>But so I don't. I just look at whatever comes up.

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01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I just really like the yeah.

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01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:57.360
<v Speaker 2>And then I'm done. Yeah. So I'm like, oh, and

1199
01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:01.440
<v Speaker 2>it's been good stuff so far. So and I've connected

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01:02:01.480 --> 01:02:04.480
<v Speaker 2>with a lot of like Minnesota people, yeah, which has

1201
01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:07.280
<v Speaker 2>been which has been fun. Like someone talked about my

1202
01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:11.280
<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite restaurants in Minneapolis on the on

1203
01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:13.840
<v Speaker 2>the thread and I was like, they have the best

1204
01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:17.239
<v Speaker 2>grilled cheese and tomato soup in the entire state of Minnesota.

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01:02:18.039 --> 01:02:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to lowbrow.

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01:02:19.719 --> 01:02:21.800
<v Speaker 1>My daughter. I thinks that she is the grilled cheest

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01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:26.599
<v Speaker 1>grilled cheese expert of the world. So next time or

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01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:28.360
<v Speaker 1>if I mean, I've been to Minneapolis, but if she

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01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:29.880
<v Speaker 1>ever gets there, I will tell her.

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01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes, not like super fancy grilled cheese and.

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01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Like diner solid this is it's so good. She likes

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01:02:41.760 --> 01:02:43.840
<v Speaker 1>like a white bread and an American cheese. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>she likes low Brow is called the low Brow. Is

1214
01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:48.119
<v Speaker 1>that what you say?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the name of the restaurant. I love it

1216
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:56.000
<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota or thinking of going to Minneapolis when the

1217
01:02:56.039 --> 01:02:59.760
<v Speaker 2>weather gets better to support a wonderful state. A low

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01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Brow is a great place.

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01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:04.519
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Wow, it's a good turn.

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01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:07.960
<v Speaker 2>And the menu because I normally go there with my

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01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:08.840
<v Speaker 2>four year old niece.

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01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I love the kids in you myself. Speaking of that,

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01:03:12.519 --> 01:03:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go grab some dinner. Well, thank you very much, Mandy.

1224
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Everybody make sure you're following Mandy over there on the

1225
01:03:18.519 --> 01:03:21.159
<v Speaker 1>social media and listening to her podcast that comes out

1226
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:23.079
<v Speaker 1>on Sundays, which is great because a lot of things

1227
01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:25.599
<v Speaker 1>don't come out on Sundays, so it's nice to have

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01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:27.280
<v Speaker 1>some Bravo on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>And thank you so much to very pain. You are

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01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:34.880
<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite people that I've met through podcasting.

1231
01:03:35.159 --> 01:03:37.679
<v Speaker 2>You're real human being. It is fun to see you

1232
01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:40.599
<v Speaker 2>in real life, separate from this whole world. I love

1233
01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:44.119
<v Speaker 2>your producer Ingrid, also from Minnesota. You guys are just

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01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:47.039
<v Speaker 2>such good people and you put out such good content.

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01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:50.360
<v Speaker 2>So thanks for, you know, putting out stuff that makes

1236
01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:52.639
<v Speaker 2>us laugh during some pretty rough times.

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01:03:53.159 --> 01:03:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Listen, man, we're trying. It's rough out here. It's rough

1238
01:03:58.480 --> 01:03:58.880
<v Speaker 1>out here.

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01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the thing could go wrong. It does essentially in

1240
01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:06.320
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six. I thought it was twenty twenty five.

1241
01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:09.920
<v Speaker 1>But I do get to see Mandy sometimes in person

1242
01:04:10.679 --> 01:04:13.559
<v Speaker 1>because we're both in the DC area, So that's fun sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>And every time there's like an event, I'm like, Mandy,

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<v Speaker 1>are you going? Should I go? Shesty either are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go? Should I go? You're gonna go to Dandy

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<v Speaker 1>Cohen's book Sunny? Are you gonna go? So whenever anything

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<v Speaker 1>comes up, we always chat about who's gonna go. Generally,

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<v Speaker 1>you know me, I don't leave my house, but Mandy

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<v Speaker 1>usually goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. We can hang out once the weather's a little

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<v Speaker 2>better and you can drive it.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen. When I can get out of my driveway, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>come and see.

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<v Speaker 2>It's literal, it's Actually it's so bad. And I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>this is someone who like grew up like outside Minneapolis,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you can't get it's hard to get around.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard. Yeah, I just bought one of those little

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<v Speaker 1>tints that you could put in your yard for the dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a little mini greenhouse and then it tucks

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<v Speaker 1>that here and then you can send your dog out

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<v Speaker 1>and then they'll be on the grass but covered.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, that's brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, since we have a little patch of grass that

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<v Speaker 1>we have shoveled out for them, we're gonna put the

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<v Speaker 1>little tent on top of it and that way they'll

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<v Speaker 1>go out in the snow. Because you know, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the dogs looks at the snow and is like, nope,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be on the porch. You're like, we're gonna can't

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<v Speaker 1>poop on the porch. So yeah, it's real struggle.

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<v Speaker 2>Really doesn't mind the snow and ice, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>like hard to find a place to go when it's

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<v Speaker 2>like you're walking on solid ice. You're like do I

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know if they pee, they like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of melt it and the kind of sinkle.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have another week or two of this

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<v Speaker 1>and then we're gonna be done. We'll be done with

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<v Speaker 1>this with the snow, and then we'll you'll melt and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll melt, and I'll we'll try to see each other. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Bye me, Andy,