WEBVTT 1 00:00:30.079 --> 00:00:33.079 Hello, I'm welcome to Game Spot After Dark episode one 2 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:40.039 one seven. Yes, it is defeated Halo master Chief episode. 3 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:42.200 Are we going to talk about Halo? 4 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:43.119 Maybe? 5 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:46.920 At the very least you will get a Halo themed 6 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:50.840 quiz put together by our very own Jacob mccatt. But 7 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:53.359 before that introductions, I'm your host, more saying. I am 8 00:00:53.439 --> 00:00:55.320 joined as always by Jean lucas ipet. 9 00:00:56.240 --> 00:00:58.320 How do you do? Gamers coming at you from a 10 00:00:58.439 --> 00:01:01.240 brand new microphone? And do I sound good? Do I 11 00:01:01.280 --> 00:01:02.039 sound crisp? 12 00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:02.640 Chris? 13 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:04.280 Do sound good? You do sound good? 14 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:10.480 It sounds real nice. Also joining us is Jordan's remay. 15 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:15.879 What up? What up? Coming from my old as hell microphone? 16 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:18.799 Not nearly as crisp, but it's served me well. 17 00:01:20.359 --> 00:01:22.519 And for the first time you may have seen him 18 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:25.040 on our excellent news videos, it's Davante. 19 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:28.319 Welcome, Yeah, what up? 20 00:01:28.359 --> 00:01:28.680 Everyone? 21 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:31.400 Honored to be here on the podcast for the first time. 22 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:36.359 Davante. We have a segment on this podcast which we renamed. 23 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:39.560 Someone quickly reminded me what what what? It is now 24 00:01:39.640 --> 00:01:40.560 called I've forgotten it? 25 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:42.920 So it used to be question. 26 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:46.719 It used to be the Chris from Dayton, Ohio segment, 27 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:50.439 but then we realized Chris has abandoned us long ago, 28 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:53.159 but then we renamed it to something. 29 00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:57.719 Did we ever confirm that Chris abandoned us? Well, we 30 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:00.640 put we just said that one day. We ran with that. 31 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:03.760 No, no, we said Chris for motiple website, were like, Chris, 32 00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:05.719 if you're out there, let us know and we'll keep 33 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:08.159 the name as is. And Chris did not reply, not 34 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:10.199 in our discord dm us. 35 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:10.639 He didn't. 36 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:13.840 He didn't at us on Twitter. Nothing, no signs of 37 00:02:13.879 --> 00:02:16.439 life from Chris, which leads me to believe Chris has 38 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:17.719 moved on from our podcast. 39 00:02:18.159 --> 00:02:21.039 So this is no longer the Chris from Dayton, Ohio 40 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:24.240 segment is now the Jackson from Nairobi, Kenya. 41 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:27.919 Nairobi, Kenya, that's where it was. I knew it was Jackson, 42 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:30.560 but I didn't know where it was. For some reason 43 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:33.520 in my mind, it was like it's from Transylvania. Right, No, 44 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:37.039 that's not right, that's not right. Okay, then, so the 45 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:40.879 Jackson from Nairobi, Kenya segment, in which anyone new to 46 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:45.520 the podcast is invited to tell us about themselves, what 47 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:48.479 they do, the games, they love, the movies, they love 48 00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:51.400 the stuff. That is, they're passionate about and you know, 49 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:54.759 kind of imagine this being your Tinder. 50 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:56.680 Profile for podcast listeners. 51 00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:00.159 They're gonna they're gonna decide, They're gonna decide whether they 52 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:03.400 want to swipe left or right on you, Duvante, and 53 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:06.199 don't worry about it. Most people will always wipe right here, 54 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:08.199 but they need a good idea of they want to 55 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:10.080 go into the swipe feeling good about it. 56 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:17.840 Solf so Davante Chisholm here and I am video producer 57 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:20.479 here at game Spot, and I'm doing a lot of 58 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:26.240 the news videos along with Persia we swap weeks. But 59 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:29.039 I've kind of had my hands in everything around here 60 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:31.439 since starting three months ago, and it's crazy to think 61 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:36.400 that it's been three months. What I really love video 62 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:39.680 game wise is games like Breath of the Wild, The Witcher, 63 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:44.919 and the Uncharted series. Really high on the Far Cry 64 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:47.120 series as well for some reason, even though I know 65 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:50.280 it's the same thing over and over again. In terms 66 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:54.759 of movies, I love you know me too, things like Inception, 67 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:59.199 but also like crazy stupid Love. And I've also this 68 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:02.800 week alling in love with Seinfeld, so we could throw 69 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:08.400 that into the favorite things. Also long walks on the 70 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:12.840 beach and stuff typical things like that. 71 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:19.399 Yeah, exactly, if you had to take out the entire 72 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:21.560 GameSpot community on your first date, where would you. 73 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:33.120 Games community imagine their first day imagine? 74 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:36.040 I mean, I really just want to go with like 75 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:39.079 the dollar menu, because that's that's a that's a big 76 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:39.959 bill right there. 77 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:42.920 That's a smart choice. That's kind of. 78 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:43.839 All I want to do. 79 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:46.839 I respect it, honestly, like I would be. I would 80 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:48.519 be up for that. So well done. 81 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:52.720 Well, we're excited to have you, hear Davante, and we're 82 00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:55.800 excited for the community to start getting behind you as well. 83 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:58.319 I'm sure a lot of them have been watching the 84 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:00.399 news videos, but if you're not, please do a command 85 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:03.120 the excellent a nice digestible way to get the biggest 86 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:06.519 news of the day. But let's move on to the 87 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:09.959 what we've been doing watching plane segment of this show. 88 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:15.519 Let's kick it off with Jordan. Jordan, we've been. 89 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:23.279 Up there kicking off with me so quickly not even 90 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:25.879 worth talking about because now I've written my things about 91 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:28.199 the game that we were all like hinting at for 92 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:29.879 the past couple of weeks was Guardians of the Game. 93 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:32.800 We're all going to be talking about this. Jordan you 94 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:33.680 can't knock out of it. 95 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:38.560 I wrote a review for it. I all of my 96 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:46.279 opinions are already out there, so uh sure. Guardians of 97 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:49.800 the Galaxy, I think I'm more positive on that game 98 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:54.000 than a lot of the people at a game spot. 99 00:05:54.079 --> 00:06:00.560 Maybe not in the our peers across sites overall, but 100 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:03.800 I really like it. I think the Guardians in the 101 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:08.480 game are significantly better than their MCU counterparts. I think 102 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:11.360 Guardians Volume three has a lot to live up to 103 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:15.360 in comparison to this game. And even though I'm not 104 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:19.000 like completely sold on the combat, it's one of the 105 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:22.439 better stories that I've enjoyed in a video game this year, 106 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:26.319 which is why it's snuck on to the lower half 107 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:31.879 of my top ten for twenty one. I am sure 108 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:35.600 that Lucy, John Luke and Tam will like disagree with 109 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:38.079 me on a lot of things about it. For me, 110 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:45.560 it's like just a very simplified, streamlined like variation far 111 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:49.959 less good but still decent story of like Final Fantasy 112 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:53.519 seven remake, where it's like just telling people what to do, 113 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:57.600 very little strategy involved, but really good story. And I'm like, 114 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:01.759 that's I just need more single player games in my 115 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:04.480 life that I can play and beat in a single weekend, 116 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:07.439 and just like know that there's no expansion Pass, there's 117 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:10.759 no DLC, there's no battle pass, there's nothing. I just 118 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:13.519 play it, enjoy it, and I'm done and just wipe 119 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:16.560 my hands of it. And that's that's a beautiful thing. 120 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:24.319 So yeah, yeah, Jean Luke, you've been playing it a 121 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:24.839 lot as well. 122 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:25.600 What do you think of it? 123 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:31.680 Yeah, I think I'm on the lower tier of most 124 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:35.319 opinions I've seen. I was like surprised how positive it 125 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:38.759 was when all the reviews came out on Monday, and 126 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:42.639 I think, I so I really didn't like it, and 127 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:44.759 then I kind of came around to it, but I 128 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:51.639 still left disappointed. To be fair, I think the game 129 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:54.000 kind of leaves a really bad first impression. I think 130 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:58.839 that opening chapter is not that interesting because like the 131 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:01.600 plot hasn't really kicked it, and like the gameplay really boring. 132 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:04.959 Also something that and this isn't fair to the game, 133 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:08.000 so I won't hold it against it, but uh, when 134 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:13.240 I first started playing, the camera on star Lord was 135 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:17.120 really really close, like gear's a war level close over 136 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:20.600 the shoulder, and I was like, this is the camera? 137 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:24.240 Like the combat is awful? Like this, like why would 138 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:29.600 they do this? And then like later it got uh 139 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:32.080 it like zoomed out more after that chapter, and I 140 00:08:32.120 --> 00:08:34.080 was like, Okay, that's weird. Why would they do that 141 00:08:34.120 --> 00:08:36.559 for the first chapter. It turns out that was a bug. 142 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:41.759 It wasn't supposed to do that, and I was like, oh, 143 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:44.759 well shit, that game that really started the game off 144 00:08:44.759 --> 00:08:45.639 on the wrong foot for me. 145 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:48.600 I had the same thing where I was like, why 146 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:51.720 can't I see anything? It's like really weird. 147 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:54.039 And it made the platforming, which I think is like 148 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:57.960 pretty rudimentary and basic, just like feel like shit and 149 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:00.519 like you're you're like how I thought I have like 150 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:04.679 no awareness of the enemies trying to find them, like 151 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:07.720 what is going on? But again that was a bug 152 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:10.000 so which also I don't know if you guys, I 153 00:09:10.039 --> 00:09:12.879 had a pretty buggy experience with this game. It felt 154 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:16.879 like as the game progressed, it got buggier over time, 155 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:19.320 like it would be like, oh, like there's just a 156 00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:21.440 little graphic glitch over there, and like by the end 157 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:23.919 of the game it was like, oh, the music just 158 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:28.559 completely stopped playing. Okay, that's cool. I think this scene 159 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:31.440 was supposed to have a really cool eighties rock song 160 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:33.440 in it, but it didn't whoops. 161 00:09:34.759 --> 00:09:37.399 But that's what I was talking to Darren, one of 162 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:41.480 our freelancers, about that, and I don't know what you 163 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:44.360 played on. I played on PlayStation five, he played it 164 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:48.360 on Xbox, I think played and my experience was far 165 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:53.159 less buggy than his was. So that's like, I don't 166 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:55.279 want to say it, like, oh, that's the indication. That's it. 167 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:59.200 I'm pulling from two like data points for like my conclusion. 168 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:02.240 But I wonder if the PlayStation five versions a bit more. 169 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:06.720 My pH five experience has been not clean, like I've 170 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:07.279 had no issue. 171 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:10.720 Okay, interesting, Well then maybe you don't get it on 172 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:12.840 Xbox if you're planning on picking it up, because that 173 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:17.000 version was really buggy in a way that was annoying 174 00:10:17.039 --> 00:10:19.679 to me, specifically because I do think the strong suit 175 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:21.759 of the game is like the story and the presentation, 176 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:24.440 so like when all these graphical glitches happened, it was 177 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:26.320 like taking me out of it. 178 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:30.240 But pat so like a pretty beefy patch as well 179 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:33.559 as well to make sure see if there's anything in there. 180 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:37.279 That right, but to not like hold that against the game, 181 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:39.559 because you know that stuff can be patched down fixed 182 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:42.759 for me it like I agree with you Jordan, where 183 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:45.559 it's like I ended up really liking the characters and 184 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:48.519 I do think they are stronger than the MCU ones. 185 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:52.360 It's the same I felt about uh Insomniac Spider Man game, 186 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:54.200 where I was like, this is the best version of 187 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:57.639 Spider Man, of any Spider Man bar nun Get all 188 00:10:57.679 --> 00:10:59.679 these other Spider Man's out of here. I don't care, 189 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:04.039 with the exception of maybe into the Spider Verse. 190 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:08.320 Uh, get all these other Spider Man's out to. 191 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:12.720 Get them out, like for real though, like the story 192 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:15.840 of that game was so good that it made all 193 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:18.200 of the like Tom Hollands Spider Man's look like trash. 194 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:20.440 I was like, these are garbage Spider Man movies now, 195 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:23.440 like in comparison to how good I feel that this 196 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:24.519 game is. 197 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:24.840 Uh. 198 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:27.279 And maybe I don't feel quite as trumbling about that 199 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:28.240 about this one. 200 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:31.360 But I do Spider Men are allowed to return. 201 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:36.480 But I do really really like these versions of these 202 00:11:36.559 --> 00:11:39.759 characters uh quite a bit. And I do think like 203 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:42.000 that is where as a game you get that advantage 204 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:43.480 of like, well, you get to go around and like 205 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:48.360 talk to them and like interact with them, and you know, uh, 206 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:50.639 you get more development than you would in a movie. 207 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:52.759 The negative and this is something we kind of talked 208 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:57.840 with Ham is can also great sometimes specifically Rocket like 209 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:02.120 Rocket is Rock. This whole character is that he is 210 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:09.440 just like incredibly narcissistic and antagonistic towards Peter, like constantly 211 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:12.879 Peter in pretty much everyone to the point. And it's 212 00:12:12.919 --> 00:12:17.039 it works in a movie in a fifteen hour game, 213 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:22.200 where he's just always pissed off and always mad about 214 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:26.960 something that's unreasonable. It really grates on you after a while, 215 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:29.720 and I think everyone has through different tolerance to it. 216 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:32.279 But after a while I was like, shut the fuck up, Rocket, 217 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:34.159 I don't care I do that. 218 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:38.080 It's it's really annoying because he's also like he is 219 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:42.039 that Rocket from the MCU and less so in the comics, 220 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:44.840 Like they move past that in the comics pretty quickly, 221 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:48.399 but he's always like trying to undermine Peter in a 222 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:51.320 way that in the movies you see it in small 223 00:12:51.399 --> 00:12:54.679 doses and it feels like kind of combactive in a 224 00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:58.679 rivalry way. In this it's like I would this is 225 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:00.840 like bordering on mutiny. I would throw you out of 226 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:03.159 the airlock if I was in charge. And it's really 227 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:06.000 fucking annoying, and like he does that thing where it's 228 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:08.360 same you remember how you felt with a Trace in 229 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:10.720 God of War where there's that one section where he's 230 00:13:10.799 --> 00:13:13.480 like surly teenager for a while and he's just being 231 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:17.639 annoying as suck and he's being very childish and you're like, 232 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:22.120 you're the problem here. Like Rocket does that constantly and 233 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:25.399 it's really annoying. And for some reason, he keeps we're 234 00:13:25.399 --> 00:13:28.399 talking about earlier, but he keeps as he keeps asserting 235 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:31.080 that the Milano is his ship, and I hate it 236 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:34.480 for some reason. I'm like, why do you keep saying that? Like, 237 00:13:34.559 --> 00:13:38.519 it's not your ship, It's never been your ship, it's clearly. 238 00:13:38.519 --> 00:13:40.559 Really I kind of liked that part. I liked the 239 00:13:40.600 --> 00:13:43.279 bickering that they had with Peter. I like I like 240 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:46.000 the constant callback where Peter's like my ship and Rockets like, no, 241 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:49.120 it's my ship, and I'm like, I like jokes that 242 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:50.480 kind of ran like that throughout. 243 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:52.960 Yeah, there's something about it that I really dislike because 244 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:56.320 it's like his his his uh what do you call it? 245 00:13:57.240 --> 00:13:59.639 Obviously point is like he takes care of it and he's, 246 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:03.919 you know, the the the engineer or the engineering. 247 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:03.759 But like. 248 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:08.879 Peter Quill is accepted as the leader of the team, 249 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:11.559 like they all default, even Rocket defaults to. 250 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:12.440 Him as the leader. 251 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:15.720 So it's like you can't accept that Peter Quills the 252 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:17.879 leader and then be like this is my ship because not. 253 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:18.879 It's not like a ship. 254 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:22.039 Shut up, but like the first time is charming, the 255 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:24.600 second time is charming. And then it gets when it 256 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.240 kind of integrates into like you treated the milan or poorly, 257 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:31.600 it's like, all right, shut up oosop, like fucking this 258 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:35.559 isn't a one piece fucking arc again, like shit, And 259 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:39.399 like I don't know, I really like Rocket as a character, 260 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:43.960 but like John Luke says, his attitude over fifteen hours 261 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:47.120 quickly becomes great. And it's especially the case when like, 262 00:14:47.320 --> 00:14:50.200 up until that point, you I took actions that were 263 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:53.120 in Rockets favor, like because you can make these decision 264 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:55.279 making moments where it's like Drax wants to do this 265 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:58.120 thing but it involves throwing Rocket around and mistreating him 266 00:14:58.159 --> 00:14:59.759 a bit, and I was like, no, don't do that, 267 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:02.639 and then he turns around is like fuck you. I'm 268 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:04.799 the leader of this ship. This is my ship. You suck, 269 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:06.679 And I'm like I should have thrown your ass into 270 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:10.559 that ravine earlier. And it's like, I guess it is 271 00:15:10.600 --> 00:15:12.600 working in that in that way, but I don't think 272 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:16.639 it's intended as to be that. But overall, yeah, I 273 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:20.360 think I'm aligned with somehow I'm aligned with both Jordan 274 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:23.080 and John Luke. Where to start with, I was like, 275 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:27.200 this isn't hitting, and I'm and I'm upset about the 276 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:31.720 fact that it's not hitting, and that is because it 277 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:34.799 it kind of leads with the combat because it has 278 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:37.399 a lot of explaining to do, but the combat is 279 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:40.759 actually quite rudimentary and. 280 00:15:40.840 --> 00:15:42.279 Like the weakest part of the game. 281 00:15:42.759 --> 00:15:44.320 Yeah, yeah, it looks. 282 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:47.519 The thing about it is like it looks more involved 283 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:50.799 than it actually is. I think the thing about it 284 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:54.240 is it's like mechanically it has layers, Yeah, but none 285 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:57.000 of those layers are essential, Like you can you can 286 00:15:57.080 --> 00:15:59.840 ignore every bit of guidance it gives you and just 287 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:02.080 I'm attacked, I had. 288 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:07.320 Yeah, it's an incredibly dumb down version of Mass Effect 289 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:08.799 and Dromeda as combat. 290 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:10.879 Yeah, it's just very I'm. 291 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:12.840 Not even directing where these people are going. I'm just saying, 292 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:14.120 like what attacks to use. 293 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:17.600 Yeah, and even then it's like you don't pay attention. 294 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:20.559 I think I remember it being like it felt like 295 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:24.000 playing Dragon Age two where it's like at a certain 296 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:26.399 point where I was like, I just don't care about 297 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:29.399 who's doing what. I'm just gonna use everyone's attacks at 298 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:33.159 the same time, and like it usually will destroy an 299 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:35.480 enemy or it will do like I'll wait one call 300 00:16:35.559 --> 00:16:37.600 down period for everyone and just do it again and 301 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:41.000 then everyone's dead. So it's like and then like another 302 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:44.039 point where Jordan made in kind of like his review, 303 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:46.960 which is excellently you should read it. Is it kind 304 00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:52.120 of positions star Lord as a kind of like a 305 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:55.879 strategic element in the combat where he can like guide 306 00:16:55.919 --> 00:17:00.000 everyone and you know, hover over the battlefield and tell 307 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:02.480 people what to do. But you never need to do that. 308 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:03.159 There's no point. 309 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:06.799 Did you ever use the hover ability after unlocking it 310 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:08.759 on the games? Like use the hover ability to go 311 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:10.519 up and direct the combat? And I did it that 312 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:11.160 one time. 313 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:16.359 Click in on the sticky So that that feels so 314 00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:20.119 cumbersome that you just never use Peter's abilities. I highly 315 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:22.440 recommend you go into the settings and you set it 316 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:25.359 so you just have to click instead of hold to 317 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:29.960 activate Peter's abilities. That's an option yeah. 318 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:32.759 So, so for context, how it works is most of 319 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:36.039 the Guardian's abilities are like tied to a radio menu, 320 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:37.640 which you like hold L one I think, and it 321 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:40.240 brings them up and then you oh, the face buttons 322 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:42.039 are tied to each of the members, and then you 323 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:44.880 press that button, so let's say triangle for I think 324 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:48.240 it's dras or something like that, and it will then 325 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:50.799 bring up four additional buttons that are mapped to the 326 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:54.400 face buttons, and those are specific abilities. But for Peter 327 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:57.039 you have to like press down the left thumbstick to 328 00:17:57.039 --> 00:17:59.079 bring it up because the other buttons are taken up 329 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:01.920 by the other men. Was the gudience, and I didn't 330 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:03.720 even see that for a while. So I unlocked the 331 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:06.079 abilities for him and then just forgot about them immediately. 332 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:07.440 And then I saw that in the corner and I 333 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:10.680 was like, oh, now that's where the abilities are, and. 334 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:12.720 Then I started using them. I was like, I don't 335 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:14.960 really need them, but that's nice. 336 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:17.240 Yeah. I mean I felt the same way where it's 337 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:20.480 like because I had to like make a combat guy 338 00:18:20.680 --> 00:18:23.640 for a game spot, and so literally halfway through the game, 339 00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:26.039 I was like, I should probably learn how this combat 340 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:28.559 actually works, because it was a thing where it was like, oh, 341 00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:32.319 I've been getting away with just hitting random buttons and 342 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:34.759 being fine. Yeah, And then when I actually figured out 343 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:37.759 how the combat worked, I was like, oh, there is 344 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.319 depth here. There is all these like systems and terms. 345 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:44.839 It was like stagger and elemental shots and all this stuff, 346 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:49.240 and it does actually work. But like you said, you 347 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:50.759 never need to do it because I just don't think 348 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:54.160 the combat encounters themselves demand it. And then when I 349 00:18:54.200 --> 00:18:56.920 did learn how the combat actually worked and started to 350 00:18:57.039 --> 00:19:02.359 use those combos, it became so easy easy, like ridiculously easy. 351 00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:06.400 Like I put the game up too hard to try 352 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:09.000 and like show like, oh the game's harder now, and 353 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:10.880 like this is tricky, you know, like oh, i'll capture 354 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:14.480 me dying. I went through an entire chapter without dying 355 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:17.640 trying to intentionally, Like I wasn't trying to like die 356 00:19:17.640 --> 00:19:19.359 on purpose. I was like, I'll just die naturally. Because 357 00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:21.519 I put the game on the hardest difficulty. I was 358 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:24.519 able to get through the entire chapter without dying until 359 00:19:24.519 --> 00:19:28.359 the very end because it yeah, just was like, oh, 360 00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:31.200 I know the exact buttons to hit to win now 361 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:32.400 because I figured out. 362 00:19:32.319 --> 00:19:35.759 The comment it never puts you in a position where 363 00:19:35.799 --> 00:19:38.119 you need to think hard. It is the combat is 364 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:41.039 literally the embodiment of that Indiana Jones scenes where the 365 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:43.240 guy is doing the knife tricks and then Indie just 366 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:46.759 shoots him. Like this, either you can take the long 367 00:19:46.839 --> 00:19:48.720 way or you can take this short way, and the 368 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:50.960 short way is the easiest way, and you get to 369 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:53.799 just walk away from the combat having and the other 370 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:55.680 mechanic for combat before I move on to the other 371 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:57.200 product is the. 372 00:19:57.200 --> 00:19:59.920 Huddle, which is a kind of weird. 373 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:03.000 So another layer is you have these like cinematic finisher 374 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:05.200 attacks which once you do a certain amount of damage 375 00:20:05.319 --> 00:20:07.880 or stunt or whatever, like you can press up two 376 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:10.279 buttons and the guardians will team up to do a 377 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:11.119 quick flourish. 378 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:13.079 That is like I like that, it's cool. It's nice. 379 00:20:13.160 --> 00:20:16.039 Like you'll do a punch and then like Drags will 380 00:20:16.039 --> 00:20:18.640 do a drop kick and then that's it, or like 381 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:21.480 Gomora will do a swords wipe or Rocket will drop 382 00:20:21.640 --> 00:20:23.599 a group do something that's cool. 383 00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:24.000 I like that. 384 00:20:24.079 --> 00:20:26.079 It doesn't break up the flow of combat too much, 385 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:27.559 and it's the kind of like a moment for you 386 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:30.400 to pause and watch something cool happen. The other part 387 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:32.319 of it is like you build up enough energy and 388 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:34.240 you can do a huddle, which is like you press 389 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:36.880 a button and the action comes to a stop. It 390 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:41.400 goes into first person where you can see star Lord 391 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:44.200 pull out his walkman and turn some music on. They 392 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:46.640 all gather around you, so you're like staring at them 393 00:20:46.759 --> 00:20:49.079 face to face as if it's like a mass effect conversation, 394 00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:51.200 and they're all like, damn. 395 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:51.440 This sucks. 396 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:53.559 Why is no one letting me kill everyone? And then 397 00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:56.119 Gomor's like stay out of my way, and then rockets 398 00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:58.039 like this is my ship, and then group it's like 399 00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:01.599 I am grow and then you're like, dude, come on, 400 00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:04.799 let's let's work together. And depending on your choices, like 401 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:07.480 you either go back in there with like healed health 402 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:11.920 or buff damage or like some small it's entirely pointless, 403 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:14.720 like it's it's so superfluous unnecessary. 404 00:21:14.799 --> 00:21:17.160 Thing I do love about that though, is that I 405 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:19.680 don't know if you noticed, but the speech that Peter 406 00:21:19.799 --> 00:21:24.480 gives is is like loosely tied to the license song 407 00:21:24.599 --> 00:21:27.680 that plays after. Yeah, it's really funny. 408 00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:30.279 Yeah, it's it seems like they came up with a 409 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:33.640 cool idea and it was like, it seems like this 410 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:36.200 they came up with this idea the day that they 411 00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:39.119 got confirmation that they were going to make the Guardians game, 412 00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:40.519 and they were like, what if we did this thing 413 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:42.599 where everyone huddles around you and it's really cool, or 414 00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:44.440 we can have like the licensed music in the background 415 00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:46.519 and the things that they're saying, we'll appear in text 416 00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:48.480 behind them. And everyone went, yeah, that would be so cool, 417 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:51.039 and then it like it just no one went this 418 00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:52.839 is kind of breaking the flow of the combat, and 419 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:53.799 it's kind of awkward. 420 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:58.839 Also, it's really because like accidentally press it, accident it Yeah. 421 00:21:58.680 --> 00:22:02.119 And the thing about it is like the combat is 422 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:06.079 easy enough where you're absolutely whooping ass and then like you're. 423 00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:08.279 Like, why would I need I don't need to motivate them. 424 00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:12.039 They're just destroying everyone, Like I have no like this. 425 00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:13.039 If it was like. 426 00:22:13.039 --> 00:22:15.079 Constantly like, oh my god, I'm on the edge of 427 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:17.680 my like health bar, I'm about to die here, and 428 00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:20.119 I use it and it like brings everyone up, that 429 00:22:20.119 --> 00:22:20.640 would be great. 430 00:22:20.680 --> 00:22:22.039 But I've never. 431 00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:25.319 Been below half health in this game, so why would 432 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:26.519 I ever do appreciate that? 433 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:29.039 They at least like wrote dialogue for when you're winning 434 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:30.839 and you get in so it's like they're all just 435 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:33.640 like really like, yeah, we're kicking ass. This is amazing, 436 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:34.920 and Peters like, hey, guys. 437 00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:35.720 Just like why are you playing? 438 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:39.079 You just gotta you gotta stay loose and you know, 439 00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:41.440 so don't worry about it, and then like don't worry, 440 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:44.000 be happy plays and you're like all right, okay, okay. 441 00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:44.759 Yeah. 442 00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:47.640 So I will say, like, the one thing that I 443 00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:51.279 really like about it that I hope in some way 444 00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:55.279 can be evolved upon by some RPG maker somewhere is 445 00:22:55.599 --> 00:22:58.799 the idea that for so long, choice driven RPGs have 446 00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:01.599 been like, look, there's the comment sections, and then there's 447 00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:05.920 the dialogue choice making sections, and those never like intertwine 448 00:23:05.960 --> 00:23:09.279 in any conceivable way. And this one doesn't quite do 449 00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:12.279 it because, like Tam said, like basically combat stops even 450 00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:15.440 like you're in the middle of about to die for 451 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:17.440 some reason. It's like, oh, all the enemies take a 452 00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:19.799 break to let you have the chance to do a 453 00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:20.319 pep talk. 454 00:23:20.839 --> 00:23:23.640 But if there was like some see the camera pull 455 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:24.920 out while that's happening. 456 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:31.359 I would love if there was like some conceivable way 457 00:23:31.599 --> 00:23:35.000 for someone who's making like an action RPG to make 458 00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:40.720 it where you're occasionally having to respond to conversations in 459 00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:44.000 the midst of combat, like not all the time, but 460 00:23:44.039 --> 00:23:47.240 like like just using mass effect as like an example, 461 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:50.799 because like that's like the go to thing. Like Jack 462 00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:53.759 and Miranda like hate each other a lot in mass 463 00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:57.079 effect too, and they have like that huge confrontation in 464 00:23:57.079 --> 00:23:59.720 mass effect too that everyone has, but like just going 465 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:02.839 through it, like there would have been moments like during 466 00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:05.960 fights where like Jack would have gotten Miranda's way and 467 00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:08.160 Miranda would have gotten in Jack's way and they would 468 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:10.240 have started bickering, and Shepherd would have had to have 469 00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:14.240 like harald them back like hey, like this is not 470 00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:17.279 the ideal time to do that, and maybe you would 471 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:19.319 have even had to have done like a renegade thing 472 00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:23.119 to like snap them back and like refocus them. And 473 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:25.519 So I like the idea that Guardians is presenting here, 474 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:27.519 and I hope someone takes them, like, oh, let's try 475 00:24:27.559 --> 00:24:31.839 to take the like choice consequence driven like dialogue thing 476 00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:34.359 and find a way to put it in combat without 477 00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:38.400 interrupting combat the way that uh it is like there, 478 00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:41.359 I don't know how you do it. Someone smarter than 479 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:43.079 me has to figure it out. But the idea of 480 00:24:43.079 --> 00:24:44.799 like you're in the middle of a fight and maybe 481 00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:47.519 like one or two people are arguing and that's causing 482 00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:49.839 you to lose because they're not focusing and you need 483 00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:53.720 to say something like in that moment, like a little 484 00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:55.680 dialogue prompt comes up. It's like you have this choice, 485 00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:57.200 this choice or this choice, and you have to say 486 00:24:57.240 --> 00:24:59.920 the right thing to like refocus the squad in the 487 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:02.440 myths of the fight. And I'm like, I like this idea, 488 00:25:02.839 --> 00:25:06.039 it's just not I had. I had the exact the 489 00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:06.559 same thought. 490 00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:08.599 I had this exact same thought, and I thought about 491 00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:10.519 it long enough to convince myself that it's going to 492 00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:10.839 be in the. 493 00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:15.720 Next Like I was like, they have to be really cool. 494 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:19.440 Yeah, but like yeah, so long and short story combat 495 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:23.680 not great. However, what I will say I really really enjoyed, 496 00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:25.759 and I am enjoying because I'm not finished yet is 497 00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:29.559 the characters. And I'd say the character more than the 498 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:32.920 story because the story takes a long time to get going. 499 00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:38.200 It feels like a like a boring family vlog day 500 00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:43.559 for the Guardians up until a certain point, they're basically yeah, 501 00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:46.319 they're basically like we got they basically going to the 502 00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:49.119 fucking going to pay a bill, like for for like 503 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:51.559 five hours and it's like, oh my god, come on. 504 00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:57.640 But then like when the proper like pieces are and 505 00:25:57.640 --> 00:26:00.079 then the galaxy saving part comes in, it starts to 506 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:02.599 like pick up some steam. I would say the characters 507 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:06.200 I enjoy way more, the relationships and the between them. 508 00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:08.920 I think it really kicks off when you meet Niki 509 00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:12.119 and without spoiling what is going on there, like I 510 00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:15.119 don't want to say what is happening, but like you 511 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:17.599 meet up with the Novacoor and like. 512 00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:19.559 That's where it starts to pop off. 513 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:22.000 And I feel like from that point on, you're like, 514 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:24.240 up until that point, I was like, yep, this has 515 00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:27.599 certainly got the Guardians of the Galaxy in it, and 516 00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:30.440 then stuff happens on that first introduction of Niki and 517 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:33.720 you're like, oh I see oh interesting, and then you're 518 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:35.799 like okay, now now it's like literally I had a 519 00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:37.759 sit up moment where I was like slouching and I 520 00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:39.160 was like, oh, I see you, and I sat up 521 00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:41.599 in my eus like how do you pay attention going 522 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:44.680 down here? And from that point on it I feel 523 00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:48.839 like it's way better in terms of having that context 524 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:51.039 and that be like the seed day plant and then 525 00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:53.799 carrying on, they kind of so far. Anyway, they keep 526 00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:56.119 alluding to it, and I really like it. And that's 527 00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:00.440 when stuff like the flashbacks to Peter's like younger with 528 00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:04.480 his in his home is like way more effective because 529 00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:07.079 it also feels like set up for another story beat, 530 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:09.559 and then from that point on it kind of also 531 00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:13.400 blows like blows the world out a bit further and 532 00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:16.279 explores the weirder side of the cosmic part of the 533 00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:20.000 Marvel universe. It's got one of my favorite characters from Marvel, 534 00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:20.920 Cosmo in there. 535 00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:23.920 Like I love Cosmo is. 536 00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:27.400 A Russian dog that is like also one of the 537 00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:32.960 most powerful characters in space Marvel Space canon, and like 538 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:37.200 they characterized Cosmo really well, where like one of my 539 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:40.640 favorite touches is he Cosmo doesn't call them the Guardians 540 00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:44.279 of the Galaxy. He calls him the Guardian of the Galaxies, 541 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:46.519 which is just like a slight error on his part, 542 00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:49.200 but it sounds like it's way better and like it's 543 00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:51.799 really good and every now and then, like and he's 544 00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:55.559 like the security chief of an area, and like he 545 00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:59.519 goes from between like this very stern character who's got 546 00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:02.279 history with Peter Quill and is like deadly serious about 547 00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:05.359 security to like suddenly just being a dog and chasing 548 00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:09.079 a ball and and like so he'll be like go 549 00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:13.079 from pissed off at Rocket to be like suddenly he's 550 00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:14.720 got a squishy ball in his mouth and wants to 551 00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:17.359 play fetch. And it's like and it's also a like 552 00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:21.680 astronaut and like such a great character. Yeah, it's like 553 00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:24.960 so wholesome, and like Cosmo is currently like my MVP 554 00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:26.960 of that game, and like just just give me a 555 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.359 whole Cosmo game because it's incredible. But you also meet 556 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:34.319 like Lady Hellbender, and there's some really nice setup for 557 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:38.640 like context because drax Is by that point has killed Thanos, 558 00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.119 which isn't a which isn't a spoiler. It's like something 559 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:42.640 they mentioned like early. 560 00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:44.039 In The Destroyer. 561 00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:46.440 Yeah, they call him the Destroyer because he is that. 562 00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:50.039 And it's interesting because you think he'd be on top 563 00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:52.720 of the world, especially if you the only context you 564 00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:55.240 you have is the MCU movies where he's that was 565 00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:58.599 his ultimate goal and you know he's never kind of 566 00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:00.680 achieved that. But here he's kind of on a calm 567 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:05.839 down after becoming that the Destroyer, and it's interesting there. 568 00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:09.079 Gomora is in a similar. 569 00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:13.640 Space where she's like betrayed uh Thanos and Nebula, and 570 00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:16.640 it's kind of like finding her own way, and there's 571 00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:21.559 different different things happening in in characterization and context why 572 00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:25.240 it's not really really interesting. So I have like currently 573 00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:28.559 where I'm at, I quite like the game. I wouldn't 574 00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:31.759 say I enjoy playing the game, but I do like 575 00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:34.440 being in that world. I think the acting is really good. 576 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:39.880 I think like the the facial capture is extremely good, 577 00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:44.200 Like yeah, I don't surprisingly, I was like the fuck, 578 00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:47.759 this is like unnecessarily good like as and then you 579 00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:49.920 remember who the developers are and you're like, oh, right 580 00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:53.599 makes the game so of course, Like the motion captures, 581 00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:56.880 yeah exactly, and like to the point where like you 582 00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:00.279 can see that the lip synking is very good, and 583 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:04.200 then like the subtle like micro expressions in faces that 584 00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:07.799 really help sell emotional moments. You're like, wow, that's really good, 585 00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:09.519 which makes a lot of sense because you need, like 586 00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:12.000 you need to be able to do like Rocket slightly 587 00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:15.480 bearing his teeth and you know, go more of frowning 588 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.319 in a very specific way, or like you need drax 589 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.720 Is like expressions to sell a comedic delivery on a line. 590 00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:25.319 And it does it really really well. So I'm at 591 00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:26.880 the stage now where I'm like, this is a this 592 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:28.920 is a good game. This is a good game. I 593 00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:31.519 wish the combat was a bit bad. I wish yeah, 594 00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:34.000 it's a good movie. I wish that they had put 595 00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:37.880 a little more thought into into the hard mode, because 596 00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:41.559 that feels like a good kind of solution where it's like, 597 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:43.680 on this mode, we've got we need to, you know, 598 00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:46.200 make sure there's no barriers for people who know and 599 00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:49.279 love the Guardians of the Galaxy because of MCU. But 600 00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:51.759 if you want, like you, if you're a gamer and 601 00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:53.960 you need to be challenged and you need to think 602 00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:56.319 about your combat, go to this mode. But instead, as 603 00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:59.640 Jordan points out, it's basically like more health, more damage 604 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:04.279 scenario instead of like enemies have new abilities and or moves, 605 00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:05.200 or they're like you have. 606 00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:07.960 To be a little more strategic. It's just like whatever. 607 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.599 But yeah, in the dichotomy of recent Marvel games, this 608 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:18.319 for me like it's probably just under maybe just with 609 00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:22.799 Marvel Spider Man Miles Morales, but it's like definitely under 610 00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:25.720 the original Marvel Spider Man, and it's like way above 611 00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:28.599 Mars significant. 612 00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:38.400 It was like the whole time I was playing it. 613 00:31:39.759 --> 00:31:45.000 As the as the resident apologists for Marvels Avengers. I 614 00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.480 will say it does have the the same kind of 615 00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:51.200 energy as the Marvels Avengers single. 616 00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:54.000 Player, yes, which is like that kind of a good. 617 00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:57.720 Story, a good wholesome story, which the characters are really 618 00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:01.079 driving it and it's a contained, good experience. So I 619 00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:04.319 think they're comparable on that level. I would even say, like, 620 00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:07.000 obviously I have a personal connection to Gormala, but like 621 00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.680 I enjoy the simile player on that perhaps a. 622 00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:14.559 Bit more, but still like I feel like they're on part. 623 00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:17.200 When you introduce the the games as the service stuff 624 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:21.039 less so, but that's the kind of energy we're coming 625 00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:22.960 at it from, like if you want, kind. 626 00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:23.920 Of a fair comparsion point. 627 00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:27.559 But yeah, I think that's a There was a thorough 628 00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:29.039 exploration of. 629 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.160 The explanation of Guardians of the Galaxy. 630 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:35.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you should definitely check it out. 631 00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:36.799 It's it's it's a good time. 632 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:37.160 I think. 633 00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:37.960 I think like if you. 634 00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:40.319 Paid full price for it, most people, if you have 635 00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:43.319 an interest in the Guardians, most people walk away thinking, yeah, 636 00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:43.920 that was worth it. 637 00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:52.519 Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna like quickly quickly go through uh 638 00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:57.079 two of these and because I share two other games 639 00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.640 with people so we can do somewhat converse with them. 640 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:05.240 But obviously playing more Apex. Season eleven is going to 641 00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:08.119 start on November second, so I'm just getting back into 642 00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:10.720 the swing of things and just playing that game again, 643 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:13.599 making sure I'm not rusty when that kicks off. Always 644 00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:17.279 playing Apex Love Apex hasn't really changed except that they've 645 00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:19.799 patched some of the bugs that they had at the 646 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:24.039 end of the season, so that's good. Been playing Disciples Liberation, 647 00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:30.480 which is just a CRPG that CRPG franchise that existed 648 00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:35.720 like ten fifteen years ago, the Disciples series. It took 649 00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:38.319 a really really long hiatus and they came back with 650 00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:41.920 this fourth game. Niche audience. It's more about like building 651 00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:45.839 armies than like creating a squad, but in this one 652 00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:48.480 they tried to do a little bit of both and 653 00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:53.319 it's pretty good. I'm enjoying it so far. It's probably like, 654 00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:58.039 in a very very low portion of my top tenure, 655 00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:03.440 playing as a woman who discovered this like magical city 656 00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:05.599 and this connection to this dark power. You think, oh, 657 00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:08.559 I can use this to like save myself and my 658 00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:11.800 childhood friends because we're all really poor and we can 659 00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:14.480 build an army and protect each other, and along the 660 00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:17.360 way you kind of stumble into like a world ending 661 00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:23.480 prophecy and standard like RPG affair. There's Xbox and PlayStation 662 00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:27.679 versions of it, and it runs surprisingly well on consoles. 663 00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.320 If you're just like in the mood for like a 664 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:35.280 Divinity Original Sin two eighty hour RPG, I would highly 665 00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:38.039 recommend it, but I don't think it does anything like 666 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:42.559 outstandingly different from what has come before. And then the 667 00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:48.639 other things I've been playing. I've been playing Inscription, which 668 00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:53.039 is kind of like a game that's been going around 669 00:34:53.199 --> 00:35:02.719 the Twitter sphere a bit to the chagrin of most people. 670 00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:05.480 I don't want to like talk about it in a 671 00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:07.320 way that spoils it, because I know a lot of 672 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:11.360 people probably want to experience it. For the first hand, 673 00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:20.119 I am not a huge fan of Inscription. I'm currently 674 00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.280 on the second part of the game, and the second 675 00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:28.199 part is, in my opinion, much weaker than the first part. 676 00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:33.719 But I adored the first part, and just based on 677 00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:36.400 conversations with other people, I know that there are three 678 00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:38.519 parts of this game, so I'm hoping the third part 679 00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:42.360 brings me back in and I think that's the least 680 00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:43.639 spoiler way that that's. 681 00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:49.440 Interesting the first part, so I don't have that comparison 682 00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:54.079 for like how it changes, but I absolutely am in 683 00:35:54.239 --> 00:36:00.400 love with the first part. It's so good. It's so good. Yeah, 684 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:01.880 it's like, yeah, you're right, Like I want to talk 685 00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:04.880 about it, but I also don't want to say anything 686 00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:06.760 about it, but I feel like I should because a 687 00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:08.559 lot of people are probably like, what even is this game? 688 00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:14.760 It's it's a card game. It's a it's a like 689 00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:17.360 the basic thing is just like, oh, it's a video 690 00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:19.039 game card game. And the vein of like that has 691 00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:23.840 become a genre that has exploded and uh, maybe over 692 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:27.519 been oversaturated, which is to say I'm not particularly a 693 00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:33.960 huge fan of video game card games. Uh they at 694 00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:36.920 least like in a traditional sense, like I I'm not 695 00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:43.199 that into building decks really like having to micromanage cards 696 00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:46.119 and like figure them out in a way that it 697 00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:48.119 just kind of overwhelms me. And I'm like, ah, I'm 698 00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:53.119 just this isn't really what I care about. Uh, this game, 699 00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:58.320 I think does a brilliant job of It's like it's 700 00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:00.320 it's the card game for people who don't like video 701 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.960 game card games. Because I don't like them. My girlfriend 702 00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:05.440 doesn't like them. We're both like this game rules because 703 00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:07.519 I think it's just does such a smart job of 704 00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:13.519 very slowly introducing elements of the cards to you in 705 00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:19.239 a way that isn't overwhelming or annoying. It's very digestible. 706 00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:25.559 It also will frequently kind of bend its rules or 707 00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:27.880 introduce a new rule to you that kind of helps 708 00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:29.840 you in your favor. So it feels like that you're 709 00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:33.079 never getting stuck in the game in a way that 710 00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:35.199 I find with some card games where you're like, oh, 711 00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:38.119 this just sucks or I don't have the right deck. 712 00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:42.559 That can still happen in this game. But like, even 713 00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:47.920 like when you start over you get like a new 714 00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:53.199 card that is stupidly overpowered. Usually that is like, okay, 715 00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:56.760 this is here to like help you progress forward. I'm 716 00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:01.280 trying to be so vague about this, but I find 717 00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:05.559 I find the actual act of like playing the cards 718 00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:08.599 to be very satisfying in a way that for me 719 00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:11.639 normally does not click. So I would say, if you're 720 00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:15.719 somebody who is hesitant about card games and are like, 721 00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:17.480 ah no, I don't think i'll play this. I don't 722 00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:20.360 really like card games, I would recommend giving this a chance. 723 00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:25.679 I would also like add that, like just so people know, 724 00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:30.679 like if you know there are things in spookier games 725 00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:33.280 that trigger you, like look at the trigger warnings for 726 00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:36.199 this game before diving. If you just dive into this 727 00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:41.000 straight without looking at the trigger warnings, you might you 728 00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:43.960 might encounter content that's not great. 729 00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:45.760 Just what I was going to. 730 00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:47.599 I was going. 731 00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:55.280 I kind of like card games. I mess with them 732 00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:59.840 a little bit of gotten into like games like Gwent 733 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:03.639 and Heartstone even for a little bit. And I've tried 734 00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:06.320 some other like little deck building games here and there, 735 00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:09.760 so I'm open to them. It's just for some reason 736 00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:12.800 when I when I see inscription places, I'm just like, 737 00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:15.880 is that a scary game? Should I be trying this 738 00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:19.400 at all? And me, you know Davante and horror, let's 739 00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:24.199 put this on the tender profile as well. Okay, That's 740 00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:26.280 why I was That's why I was trying to like 741 00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:30.000 feel it out a little bit interesting. 742 00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:33.599 Yeah, I think for me, like I'm not that I'm 743 00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:35.920 not super far in so for me, it doesn't feel 744 00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:39.119 like horror. It feels like a spooky escape room currently. 745 00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:42.320 Well I can I can. I imagine it will get 746 00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:45.679 the thing I like about Inscription, I think it does 747 00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:49.679 better than every every other card based game, is it 748 00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:53.920 kind of it teaches you how to play the game 749 00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:56.960 in a way that's more engaging than any other card game, 750 00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:00.679 where every other card game tutorial feel like it is 751 00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:04.119 like breaking the world, where it's like explaining shit to 752 00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:08.840 you in a very mechanical and like instruction manual way. 753 00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:10.800 It's like you need to pick up two cards and 754 00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:13.320 then flip this shit and then this still happened, whereas 755 00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:16.599 in this like you have a it's almost in world 756 00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:19.119 where this character is showing you how to play the game, 757 00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:21.960 but it's like teaching you about the world itself, and 758 00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:25.239 it's like letting you absorb the kind of vibe of 759 00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:27.519 the game through teaching you that it will be like 760 00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:30.679 you know, this figure is which like currently it reminds 761 00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:32.519 me of the crypt keeper from Tales from the Crypt 762 00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:36.679 Like is kind of like berating you and showing you 763 00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.239 how what to do, and it kind of has this 764 00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:43.239 antagonistic relationship where it feels like it's trying to train 765 00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:47.920 you up to be a viable opponent for them. And 766 00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:50.159 that's what I like about it is that it doesn't 767 00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:52.440 feel like you're playing a card game. A lot of 768 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:54.519 the time, at least in the first few hours, it 769 00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:57.599 feels like you're just in this world and it's kind 770 00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:00.280 of like a sore slash escape room vibe. You just 771 00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:02.400 wake up and you're like, what the hell is going on, 772 00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:05.119 and like this jigsaw like figure is in front of 773 00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:07.280 you talking about let's play. 774 00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:08.440 A game or whatever it is. 775 00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:11.320 And then suddenly you've got the ability to walk around 776 00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:13.480 this room and you're like, oh shit, there's like puzzles 777 00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:15.800 in this room and items and stuff like that, and 778 00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:19.119 you start piecing things together, and I think that's the 779 00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:21.440 real strength for me, right. I think it's one of 780 00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:25.880 those games where if if you're okay with like spooky slash, 781 00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:30.239 horror slash, you know, kind of unsettling vibes, and you're 782 00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:34.480 into the idea of a card game, those boxes ticked. 783 00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:36.079 I think this is one of the games that makes 784 00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:39.239 the strongest first impression of a game in a long 785 00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:42.679 long time. Like, because I'm into all that stuff. Card 786 00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:45.280 game is probably Bartle Model List. I don't super like them, 787 00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:47.760 but I will play them. But like the moment I 788 00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:50.079 put this on, like ten seconds in, I was like, oh, 789 00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:52.360 I am very into this. This is like good, Like 790 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:54.639 I like how this is feeling and how this is presented. 791 00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:57.559 So yeah, I think that's that's definitely something that it's 792 00:41:57.559 --> 00:41:58.440 got going for it. 793 00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:00.679 I'm interested to see because if. 794 00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:03.159 John Luke and Jordan have mentioned this kind of like 795 00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:05.519 half halfway point or like there's a second half to 796 00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:08.280 the game, which I'm interested in seeing how that hits. 797 00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:10.000 But so far, I'm really enjoying it. 798 00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:14.440 Yeah, I please both of you, like keep playing this game, 799 00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:21.920 because I desperately want to get your feedback on the thing. 800 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:28.159 I expect it to go places. 801 00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:28.800 Yeah. 802 00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:33.800 Yeah, I don't know how to talk about without spoiling it, 803 00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:36.639 So I'm just gonna wait until you tube get to 804 00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:37.159 that point. 805 00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:42.039 Yeah, that's anything else. 806 00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:47.480 Jordan, I've been playing Moon Globe Bay, and by playing, 807 00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:50.800 I mean like I played for like forty five minutes 808 00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:57.280 an hour last night, and so I don't know how 809 00:42:57.320 --> 00:42:59.679 you feel about DeVonta. Can see that you've played it 810 00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:04.480 to It's it's pretty cute, it's pretty wholesome. It's like, oh, 811 00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:08.760 did do you like the fishing aspect of animal crossing 812 00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:10.559 and you kind of like just want to do that 813 00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:14.519 aspect of the game in a story like that's tied 814 00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:19.280 to grief and handling grief and moving on in a 815 00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:22.960 very wholesome, cutesy setting. I was not expected, but it 816 00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:26.000 hasn't like been super hitting it for me, but like 817 00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:28.360 it has some great ideas, I think. 818 00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:34.079 So my time with it consisted of I played around 819 00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:36.760 the same amount as well, like forty five minutes to 820 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:41.039 an hour, but unfortunately a chunk of that time was 821 00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:44.639 just kind of trying to figure out what was wrong 822 00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:49.039 with the version I was playing. I don't know what, Jordan, 823 00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:50.119 what were you playing on? 824 00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:53.920 I was playing on Xbox. I just used which which 825 00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:58.119 Xbox series X exactly? 826 00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:00.440 That might be the reason I'm playing on just an 827 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:05.000 old Xbox one s I believe it is. And the 828 00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:07.880 frame rate and the way the like, I kind of 829 00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:10.360 thought it was on purpose. It just really has this 830 00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:13.559 like jaggedy feel to it that was kind of like 831 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.360 weird to look at. So I was like, all right, 832 00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:18.159 that's maybe that's just what they were going for, a 833 00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:22.199 lego movie kind of vibe, since it's all vauxhol and stuff. 834 00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:25.960 But then I saw someone playing it on like YouTube 835 00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:28.840 or Twitch, and I was like, that looks smooth. What's 836 00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:34.599 happening here. So I downloaded it on PC and plays 837 00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:37.119 way better on PC. So I was like, all right, 838 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:40.039 this is where I'm going to stay. And I tried 839 00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:43.599 to open my map and it refused to open no 840 00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:46.039 matter what button I pressed. I went back to keyboard 841 00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:49.480 and I was like, what's going on? Went back to Xbox. 842 00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:53.239 Still won't open. So that save file something happened with it. 843 00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:58.159 So it was just so I started a new save 844 00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:01.159 file and that kind of fixed a lot of my issues. 845 00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:02.440 But I'm just like, I'll come. 846 00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:02.800 Back to you. 847 00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:07.440 What I've played with it. Though You're totally right, it 848 00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:10.400 is just like kind of, you know, dealing with that 849 00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:14.599 grief that your character goes through. I like that it, 850 00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:17.639 you know, it slaps you with that inclusion right away 851 00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:21.880 as you're like making your character. So for some context, 852 00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:25.559 you get like a choice of four characters. You pick one, 853 00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:28.920 you choose their pronouns and their name, and then one 854 00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:31.280 of the other three is going to be your partner 855 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:38.239 once you start the game. But I like the fishing mechanics, 856 00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:41.199 the music and stuff like that. So far it seems 857 00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:44.360 pretty cute going into it. I don't know how long 858 00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:46.719 I would play it, since it is just kind of 859 00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:49.559 like phishing. But there there is I think I read 860 00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:51.719 like over one hundred species of fish in there, so 861 00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:55.400 you got a lot to do in terms of catching stuff. 862 00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:01.000 It's like the ideal I think game game where this 863 00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:02.679 is a game. I think that if I had like 864 00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:04.880 seen it on the Xbox Store and it would have 865 00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:09.159 been like, I don't know, twenty forty dollars whatever, and 866 00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:11.360 I would have seen it been like, ah, this is 867 00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:14.440 kind of like going for vibes that I usually go 868 00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:18.639 for in games. And Lynna Raine the composer for a 869 00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:22.639 Chicory and Celeste they're the ones who do the music 870 00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:26.280 for No Wonder Glow. So I'm like, oh, I really 871 00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:29.639 like their music, so maybe I'll check it out. But 872 00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:32.599 like with game Pass, it was like an immediate day 873 00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:35.360 one download. I'm trying it, I'm playing it, and that 874 00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:38.320 the minimum. I'm going to probably give it like a 875 00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:42.239 good three ish hours before coming on a verdict of 876 00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:44.440 like I like this game, I want to keep playing, 877 00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:47.039 or I don't like this game and I'm going to stop, 878 00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:50.760 which I think is going to do wonders for it. 879 00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:54.960 I'm I'm not convinced with how like jam Packed the 880 00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:59.159 latter half of October and first half of November are 881 00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:01.760 in terms of release. Is that this game would have 882 00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:07.800 like done reasonably well without this little game pass boost. 883 00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:11.079 But yeah, I'll probably have a bit more to talk 884 00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:15.440 about it on a later podcast, assuming I keep playing 885 00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:17.760 it and playing way too many games right now. There 886 00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:18.800 are too many games. 887 00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:24.599 Right now, Davante. You've been playing Echo Generation, tell us 888 00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:25.440 a bit about that. 889 00:47:26.679 --> 00:47:32.599 So Echo Generation also another like Vauxhall's style game. It's 890 00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:36.159 just taken over game pass right now. It is a 891 00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:39.320 turn based RPG with you know, like a lot of 892 00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:44.360 that like eighties kids investigating supernatural stuff around that town. 893 00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:47.440 But also they're really into making short films about aliens 894 00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:50.440 and stuff because you know, that's just what they do 895 00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:54.599 and and all of those stories. That was the time 896 00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:59.320 they all wanted to be Spielberg. But so far my 897 00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:01.159 time with it, I played a little more of it 898 00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:04.320 of this than I did of Moon Glow because this 899 00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:12.199 one didn't give me as many problems. It's odd. Maybe 900 00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:15.639 it's because I didn't really like watch or look at 901 00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:19.360 anything before going into it. You know, you kind of 902 00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:23.039 start off the game, you come downstairs, your mom tells you, hey, 903 00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:25.519 take your little sister out of the house. I don't 904 00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:27.639 care what you guys do, just get her out of 905 00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:28.119 the house. 906 00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:32.400 In a way from me solid parenting, and. 907 00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:35.239 Your first conversation with her kind of sets you off 908 00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:38.159 on these like what I guess I'm gonna call like 909 00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:41.840 trading puzzles because she's like, fine, i'll hang out with you, 910 00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:43.760 but you got to bring me a traffic home. And 911 00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:45.920 that's kind of what a lot of the game is. 912 00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:47.679 It is kind of like, hey, I need that thing, 913 00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:50.320 and they're like, okay, i'll give you that screwdriver, if 914 00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:53.280 you find me some wires, I'll give you that sandwich, 915 00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:56.440 if you find me a toy truck. Like it's things 916 00:48:56.519 --> 00:49:01.760 like that, And I was like, that's and immediately you 917 00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:04.440 go outside and it doesn't introduce you to the combat 918 00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:06.599 or anything. I was kind of expecting to kind of 919 00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:10.440 be gracefully brought into the combat. So I went outside 920 00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:12.519 looking for a traffic cone and you bump into a 921 00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:16.639 raccoon that's in a garbage can, and this raccoon talks. 922 00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:19.400 You can understand the raccoon, and it kicked my ass 923 00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:29.800 right way, which I wasn't expecting. Overall, though I have 924 00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:33.559 I'm like kind of enjoying it, but at the same 925 00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:36.800 time I wish some things were different, whereas I kind 926 00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:41.280 of wish the enemies dropped health or something, or you 927 00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:45.880 could find more around the world, because say you're fighting 928 00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:49.000 someone and then you die, you come back with like 929 00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:53.840 a portion of your health, like fairly like in a 930 00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:57.760 respond spot. But to get all of that health back, 931 00:49:57.880 --> 00:49:59.920 especially at the point where I'm at where I've kind 932 00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:03.119 of used all of my snacks, so I can't just 933 00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:05.480 eat one to get my health all the way back up, 934 00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:07.480 you have to run all the way back to your 935 00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:10.440 character's house, go inside, go all the way back into 936 00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:14.599 his room, go to sleep, and then come back out 937 00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:16.960 run all the way back to that fighting counter. 938 00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:17.920 That sounds annoying. 939 00:50:18.239 --> 00:50:19.400 Yeah, it's that. 940 00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:23.960 That portion of it is getting a little annoying to me. 941 00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:26.920 Yeah, that's interesting. 942 00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:29.320 I like, I want to check it out, but it 943 00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:33.920 seems like I think, yeah, it's game poss is also 944 00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:38.320 in a danger of, like I love game pass over saturation, Yeah, 945 00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:41.199 over saturation of things, if you get what I mean, 946 00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:44.239 I would love it if they kind of We've talked 947 00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:47.599 about this before, like better discovery, better spotlighting, but kind 948 00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:50.639 of like because a Live Arcade Back in the day, 949 00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:54.320 remember when they had like we're dropping games on a 950 00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:54.920 more like. 951 00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:57.079 Considered pace. 952 00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:02.079 It wasn't like a new game ever. You when something 953 00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:03.800 like that where it's like you just knew, Oh, I 954 00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:06.280 could turn on my Xbox three sixty every Wednesday and 955 00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:09.400 there would be a new indie game like on Live 956 00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:10.800 Arcade that I could check out. 957 00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:12.840 Yeah, and now it's just like a bunch of them 958 00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:15.400 show up and then they quickly vanish into the like 959 00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:18.159 just the kind of like ocean of them that is there. 960 00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:18.679 Better. 961 00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:20.039 I wish there were a little. 962 00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:22.880 Bit better curation too, like they could really I think 963 00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:26.280 I pull from like Netflix and like I need like, hey, 964 00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:28.400 if you like this kind of game, you should play this, 965 00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:31.400 or like can I start buy co Oper? 966 00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:34.960 You know, they have a bit of that, but I 967 00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:37.360 don't know, like it feels very hit and miss. And 968 00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:40.320 the thing that I'm I would really like about it 969 00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:43.400 is like sell the games better within game Pass or 970 00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:46.719 not sell them market them a better because like I 971 00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:50.719 look at something like Echo Generation and I struggle to 972 00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:53.559 even think about what, like how is it different from 973 00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:55.480 this next one that is right next to it, like 974 00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:58.480 on Cited or you know, there's obviously big differences, but 975 00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:00.960 like I wish they had a bit better about we're 976 00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:02.840 a bit better about. Hey, this is really cool. This 977 00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:04.679 is the what everyone's talking about. This is why it's 978 00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:08.400 a thing. And because they're like release schedule on game 979 00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:11.519 Park game past, like our lived arcade back in the day, 980 00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:13.920 it was like everyone knew what was coming, They had 981 00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:15.599 like an idea of what it was and whether it 982 00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:18.000 was cool, and they'd all collectively. 983 00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:18.320 Check it out together. 984 00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:21.280 Now it's just like it's like a pick and mix 985 00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:22.760 where you can dip in and out. 986 00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:24.559 But here's a dump of seven new games. 987 00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:27.559 They need like a page that like really sells you 988 00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:29.840 on the game, like a spotlight thing where it's like, hey, 989 00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:32.800 here's the game. Here's like the trailer, like really like 990 00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:35.480 trying to yeah again just like give it its due 991 00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:37.320 and be like, hey, this is the game we all 992 00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:38.960 really recommend you play this week. 993 00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:40.840 Yeah. 994 00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:43.519 Apple kind of does it with their arcade stuff, like 995 00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:45.199 they do a decent job of it where they have 996 00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:48.079 clearly people are like writing about the game and like, hey, 997 00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:50.199 this is why this thing is cool, and generally it's 998 00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:53.440 not like here's this game we're gonna show for money. 999 00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:57.039 It's usually like, oh, there's this little hidden gem over 1000 00:52:57.039 --> 00:52:58.679 here that we think is cool, and it feels like 1001 00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:02.440 they've got actual editors working on curating stuff, finding games 1002 00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:04.360 that they think are cool, and then talking about them. 1003 00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:06.800 I'd love it if they, like the editorial team over 1004 00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.519 at Xbox did a similar thing and where it was like, hey, 1005 00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:11.639 we think this game is I mean, they keep hiring 1006 00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:14.920 people from the games you know, writing world, so put 1007 00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:17.480 them to use on you know, some of the some 1008 00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:19.320 of them, I should use them to like, let some 1009 00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:21.079 folks be like, this game is cool, I mean, write 1010 00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:22.840 a little piece about it and we'll put it up 1011 00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:25.320 and maybe people will be convinced into playing it. 1012 00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:27.119 It's a problem they're going to just keep running into, 1013 00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:30.760 especially when like twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four, twenty 1014 00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:35.239 twenty five, and like all those studios that Xbox bought, 1015 00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:38.079 they start putting their games on game Pass and it's like, well, 1016 00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:44.360 how does moon Glow saddle up to Halo and Gears, 1017 00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:48.920 Sex and Avowed and all these other first party Xbox 1018 00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:51.199 titles that will also be on game Pass. A good 1019 00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:51.880 point day one. 1020 00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:55.960 Yeah, if only there was some sort of game Pass 1021 00:53:56.079 --> 00:53:57.000 show that. 1022 00:53:57.039 --> 00:53:58.440 Someone could only. 1023 00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:03.599 To to see what is up there and if you're 1024 00:54:03.639 --> 00:54:05.360 if you're missing the joke there, we have a game 1025 00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:07.239 pass show in which we do exactly that. 1026 00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:09.639 So keep an eye keep an eye up for that. 1027 00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:10.920 You can you can watch those. 1028 00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:17.679 Yeah, anyways, is there anything else that you've been backing 1029 00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:18.800 out that you want to talk about? 1030 00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:23.280 Nothing else really just for CRI six, Like I was 1031 00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:25.760 away from my consoles for a while and after it 1032 00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:28.679 came out, so I'm finally just trying to dive back 1033 00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:29.159 into that. 1034 00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:32.119 Did the email bring you back or have you just been. 1035 00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:39.199 No, I don't think I've gotten an email. I should check, 1036 00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:41.800 but now, yeah, I just jumped back in myself just 1037 00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:42.360 to kind of. 1038 00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:45.679 That is such a beautiful I think. 1039 00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:49.039 I think if it was literally any other game from 1040 00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:51.440 any other company, I think most people would be like, 1041 00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:54.119 that's pretty cool, that's kind of that's kind of interesting. 1042 00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:56.199 Like if it was a message from I don't know, 1043 00:54:56.360 --> 00:54:59.679 mister X the Resident Evil to remake, you'd be like, 1044 00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:02.480 that's the where I'm going. Yeah, But because it's because 1045 00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:04.840 it's far crying UBI stuff, you know that there's like 1046 00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:07.960 a corporate person who's behind that to be like we 1047 00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:10.599 need engagement to be higher in this game, and you're like, 1048 00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:13.480 I can see the mechan I can see the manipulative 1049 00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:16.719 mechanism behind this instead of the creative kind of like 1050 00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:19.239 thinking that went into it. I think that makes it 1051 00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:20.039 a little worse. 1052 00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:24.360 Yeah, apparently has done that for years now. 1053 00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:26.719 Like, yeah, I kind of point out I've noticed it 1054 00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:28.519 with the Assassin's Creed actually. 1055 00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:29.760 But I think, yeah, I would. 1056 00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:30.599 I would love it. 1057 00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:34.320 Imagine getting a fucking you know, playing Mario car and 1058 00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:37.119 then later on two weeks later, getting an email from 1059 00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:41.159 Warrio holding a blue shell guy in like where You're bitch, Like. 1060 00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:44.960 That would be like emailing you being like, we got 1061 00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:49.960 to say, what are you doing? I gotta get back 1062 00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:55.239 in there. It's sad you fee just like you haven't 1063 00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:56.800 played with No. 1064 00:55:56.440 --> 00:56:04.800 No, but yeah, Jean Luke, we talked about Guardian, we 1065 00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:08.079 talked about inscription. You what else you got cooking? 1066 00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:13.320 I have been checking out The Darkest Dungeon too, how 1067 00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:18.559 oh it's so dark the second darkest, although I'm not 1068 00:56:18.760 --> 00:56:20.800 actually in a dungeon in this one. 1069 00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:23.480 You so false advertising. 1070 00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:29.199 I actually haven't been paying too much attention to this 1071 00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:31.480 game outside of like them saying like we're making the 1072 00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:33.840 Darkest Dungeon too, because I was like, perfect, cool, I 1073 00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:35.519 don't need to know anything else, just tell me when 1074 00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:37.320 the game's out. And then everyone was like, hey, the 1075 00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:40.880 game's out today, and I was like, awesome, let me 1076 00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:44.440 go play it. It's a lot different than I expected, 1077 00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:46.599 which is kind of what the developers has said is 1078 00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:48.000 they didn't want to just do a repeat of the 1079 00:56:48.039 --> 00:56:50.599 first game. So for those who didn't play the first game, 1080 00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:53.840 basically the rhythm of that game was you had this 1081 00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:56.480 town which was kind of your base, and you would 1082 00:56:56.559 --> 00:57:00.599 collect these mercenaries that you would use to build play party. 1083 00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:05.960 You would throw them at these like different dungeons, all 1084 00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:08.480 all for the goal to get to the Darkest Dungeon. 1085 00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:14.119 And it was essentially just this depressing grind fest where 1086 00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:18.639 you are just throwing these bodies at this problem. And 1087 00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:20.519 the game was kind of very much designed in a 1088 00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:25.719 way where like letting people die is kind of the 1089 00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:28.800 point and sort of like the way to beat the game, 1090 00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:32.679 because like it's like, don't care about these characters, don't 1091 00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:33.920 get invested because they. 1092 00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:34.840 Don't name them. 1093 00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:38.039 Don't name them, Yeah, yeah, you can name them, and 1094 00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:39.760 you like, after a while you give up on that 1095 00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:44.519 because you're like, nah, it's like your body numbers yes. 1096 00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:47.239 Immediately. 1097 00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:49.840 It is very much like you're making friends as an adult, 1098 00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:52.559 where you're like, yeah, we met, but we're probably not 1099 00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:53.880 going to know each other all week from now. 1100 00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:01.800 But this game so far is very different, where instead 1101 00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:06.400 the premise is you are on basically like the the 1102 00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:09.760 evil that kind of stemmed from the Cursed Mansion in 1103 00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:12.679 the first game has just infected the entire planet and 1104 00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:18.599 everything is just completely fucked and you are traveling in 1105 00:58:18.679 --> 00:58:22.480 this like carriage and you're trying to get to this mountain, 1106 00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:25.320 and the mountain is like the new like dungeon where 1107 00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:27.360 everything is like the evil is stemming from and your 1108 00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:29.639 goal is to try and get there. And so you 1109 00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:36.159 have a group of adventurers and you're actually supposed to 1110 00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:39.679 kind of keep them going throughout most of the game 1111 00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:41.920 if you can, which is very different. So like you 1112 00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:45.719 it's like the setup is actually like in three D, 1113 00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:47.320 where it's like a three D carriage and you're going 1114 00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:50.039 through this different environment, so like you'll go through like 1115 00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:52.199 a forest, or you'll go through a like a like 1116 00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:57.599 a ruined city, and you basically will like have split 1117 00:58:57.639 --> 00:58:59.679 paths where you decide like, Okay, if I go this way, 1118 00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:03.119 the be a like a hospital I can get to. 1119 00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:05.159 If I go this way, they'll be potentially like a 1120 00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:08.679 treasure chest. And so like that is the dungeoneering part, 1121 00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:12.679 and instead you just in between each dungeon section, which 1122 00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:15.800 is very long. They they're like a good forty five 1123 00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:18.159 minutes to an hour, I want to say longest dungeon. 1124 00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:22.719 The longest dungeon, you'll end up at an inn, and 1125 00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:24.480 then the inn is like the moment where you like 1126 00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:26.840 reprieve yourself for a second and then you get back 1127 00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:28.920 in it and you keep going. So it's got a 1128 00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:32.679 very different rhythm than the first game. I'm still pretty 1129 00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:35.599 early where I'm not sure how I feel about that rhythm, 1130 00:59:36.239 --> 00:59:39.039 but I do like that they're trying to give more 1131 00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:44.000 weight to the characters you are in your party, so 1132 00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:46.960 they put a lot of stock. They have all the 1133 00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:48.719 thing that the first game has where you'll have characters 1134 00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:51.239 who have like different traits and attributes. It's like, oh, 1135 00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:55.239 you know, they this person kind of like went insane 1136 00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:57.760 because they're like sanity meter fell too low and now 1137 00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:00.960 they've developed this negative trait or sometimes develop a positive 1138 01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:04.559 trait out of it now they have actual relationships between 1139 01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:08.760 the characters, so you'll do things like hey, I had 1140 01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:15.719 my healer heal my my crusader, my tank, and they're like, hey, 1141 01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:17.440 thanks for healing me, and they'll they'll get like a 1142 01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:19.960 boost to their relationship. 1143 01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:23.159 And then how very fire emblem, and as. 1144 01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:27.800 That develops over time, you will get like boosts where 1145 01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:29.960 they'll they'll just like say things to each other like hey, man, 1146 01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:32.239 like you're great and like this. And I had these 1147 01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:36.400 two characters who were flirting with each other on the battlefield, 1148 01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:39.480 which is weird. They kept being like, oh, like you're 1149 01:00:39.880 --> 01:00:41.880 too cute to die, like I'm going to help you out, 1150 01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:46.920 and like fires like okay. But then, unlike fire Emblem, 1151 01:00:47.559 --> 01:00:50.440 it can go the other way where they can just 1152 01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:54.480 absolutely hate each other, and unfortunately it kind of just 1153 01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:59.800 very quickly devolved into all of My party members as 1154 01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:04.199 polutely hating and not trusting each other. Like every time 1155 01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:07.920 I would kill an enemy, my crusader would just be 1156 01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:10.920 like really mad because he'd be like, you took my glory. 1157 01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:12.960 I was supposed to get that killed and I was like, dude, 1158 01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:16.400 I gotta you just I need they need to fight, 1159 01:01:16.519 --> 01:01:19.639 like I don't know what you want. And then it 1160 01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:23.039 got to the point glory where he was so mistrustworthy 1161 01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:25.840 of my healer that I couldn't heal him. I'd be like, dude, 1162 01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:27.039 I need to heal you, and he'd be like, don't 1163 01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:28.639 give me that. I don't trust you. I don't know 1164 01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:30.840 what's in there, and I'd be like, oh my god. 1165 01:01:31.599 --> 01:01:36.719 So it's got that that same thing in the first game, 1166 01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:40.960 where it's just like these odds are just stacking against you, 1167 01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:44.199 and at a certain point the characters are like refusing 1168 01:01:44.280 --> 01:01:47.159 to do the obvious thing you need to do to 1169 01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:49.559 get through this, and you're like this, oh my gosh, 1170 01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:55.119 this is going so badly. It's I mean, if you 1171 01:01:55.159 --> 01:01:59.599 didn't like how frustrating and oppress of the first game is, like, 1172 01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:01.320 let me tell you this game is not for you, 1173 01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:05.519 it is still that is even more oppressive in many ways. 1174 01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:11.000 But I and it's still early access, so like the 1175 01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:12.800 developers have been very up front of bout, like, hey, 1176 01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:17.960 a lot of this might not even be balanced correctly, 1177 01:02:18.039 --> 01:02:22.480 because I definitely felt like it was swinging way too 1178 01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:25.800 hard to all my party members being really antagonistic towards 1179 01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:29.639 each other, and I couldn't fix it either like I 1180 01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:31.039 got back to the inn and I was like, Okay, 1181 01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:33.039 I can finally solve this, and I just didn't have 1182 01:02:33.079 --> 01:02:35.480 any items that because you can like give them things 1183 01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:37.320 of like, hey, you should all play cards to like 1184 01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:41.199 get to know each other better. And I just didn't 1185 01:02:41.199 --> 01:02:43.679 have any items that repaired any relationships. So I'm going 1186 01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:48.239 into the next run, the next area with all of 1187 01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:50.480 them absolutely hating each other, and I'm like, they're all 1188 01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:53.519 gonna die. This just isn't gonna go well at all. 1189 01:02:55.280 --> 01:02:58.559 The one thing that is interesting is even if you lose, 1190 01:02:58.719 --> 01:03:05.239 there is now a profile rank system where as you lose, 1191 01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:10.880 you unlock new like items and abilities and characters that 1192 01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:14.920 then get added to the run over time. So there 1193 01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:18.199 is a seems to be they're trying to incorporate some 1194 01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:22.000 level of okay, like we don't want this to feel 1195 01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:24.880 completely all for nothing, Like the game does say like, hey, 1196 01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:27.239 even if the run is going bad and you know 1197 01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:30.760 you're going to lose, it is worth going as far 1198 01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:33.679 as you can because you'll get more points that will 1199 01:03:33.719 --> 01:03:38.360 then go into your profile system. But I haven't seen 1200 01:03:38.559 --> 01:03:41.880 enough of that to tell how meaningful that is or 1201 01:03:41.880 --> 01:03:45.320 how much like that actually benefits you because it's still 1202 01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:51.199 just so so hard, and it could be so demoralizing 1203 01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:55.159 when you're like, I've built this perfect run and then 1204 01:03:55.360 --> 01:03:58.119 just it only takes one fight for everything to go 1205 01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:01.480 so horribly wrong. I mean, the first time I played it, 1206 01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:04.440 I got through like the basic tutorial and I was like, 1207 01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:06.760 all right, first first area, let's go, let's do this. 1208 01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:10.360 I've played Darkest Dungeon. I'm a seasoned player. I died 1209 01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:13.280 on the second site. I was like, oh my god, 1210 01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:15.679 this game is going to kick my ass. And then 1211 01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:18.000 my second round I did significantly better, but I was like, 1212 01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:23.360 oh boy, so yeah, like a really cool game. I 1213 01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:27.719 like that they're trying something different. I I don't know 1214 01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:30.159 if the balance is quite there yet on some of 1215 01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:32.039 that stuff, but like I said, it's early access, so 1216 01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:33.880 I just kind of know that going in if you 1217 01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:36.840 do decide to try it, that like it's not maybe 1218 01:04:37.159 --> 01:04:39.400 it might kick your ass a little a little too much. 1219 01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:41.039 For now, the. 1220 01:04:41.079 --> 01:04:45.239 Game sounds perfect for what Jordan was mentioning earlier, like 1221 01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:47.599 if you could just kind of stop their fighting while 1222 01:04:47.639 --> 01:04:50.760 you're fighting and just be like, hey, guys, is. 1223 01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:55.599 That's just everyone? Everyone? Please? Like, can we just get 1224 01:04:55.800 --> 01:05:00.920 through this. Yeah, you will discuss your issues the next rest. 1225 01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:05.679 It sounds like an interesting evolution of the previous game 1226 01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:08.519 while also being as brutal as the previous game. 1227 01:05:08.840 --> 01:05:09.599 Yeah, pretty much. 1228 01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:12.559 Yeah, anything else you got cooking? 1229 01:05:13.480 --> 01:05:14.039 Uh. 1230 01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:18.880 I've been playing N sixty four games, but not in 1231 01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:22.639 the way you think, because I did not get the 1232 01:05:23.039 --> 01:05:26.840 Switch and sixty four. Because I thought about. 1233 01:05:26.599 --> 01:05:27.920 It, you're not a sucker. 1234 01:05:27.800 --> 01:05:30.519 And I was like, oh, you know, I'm curious about those, 1235 01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:32.320 and I'm also going to get the Animal Crossing thing. 1236 01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:35.599 And then I saw I saw everyone talk about it, 1237 01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:37.440 and I was like, nah, I'll just buy the Animal 1238 01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:40.400 Crossing expansion on my own. That's probably a better deal. 1239 01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:46.519 But funny enough, Like on Sunday, right before all that 1240 01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:50.280 stuff with the Switch and four games came out, I 1241 01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:53.239 got back in the mail my modded END sixty four, 1242 01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:58.280 which I modded with HDMI. So, y'all suckers have been 1243 01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:01.360 playing busted versions of a Grind of Time and I'm 1244 01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:03.880 out here playing Wave Race. I'm a four K TV 1245 01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:05.920 having a great time. 1246 01:06:07.960 --> 01:06:12.679 There's something like I get the same vibe from, like 1247 01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:16.519 learning old consoles have been outfitted with hahgo my like 1248 01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:19.199 an N sixty four or a dream car as I 1249 01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:22.480 get from like learning about body horror, which is like 1250 01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:26.320 there's something like unsettling, like it's not right. 1251 01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:28.440 Like is it's like should at work. 1252 01:06:28.760 --> 01:06:32.480 It's like giving like your grandparents like a a I 1253 01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:35.559 don't know, like a mechanical limb, or giving them like 1254 01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:38.559 some sort of like cybernetic implant. 1255 01:06:38.599 --> 01:06:42.880 You're like this, yeah, don't do that to your granddad. 1256 01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:44.000 Leave it alone, like. 1257 01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:48.360 It's it's my wild because for those of you who 1258 01:06:48.440 --> 01:06:50.599 don't know, like who didn't have an n sixty four, 1259 01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:54.159 that system has this like in order to try and 1260 01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:56.280 like make it look more appealing because of like how 1261 01:06:57.400 --> 01:06:59.960 awful the alien thing looks and how like kind of 1262 01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:02.960 shit the graphics look. Nintendo is like we're just going 1263 01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:07.920 to like smear some vacoline over the entire system. So 1264 01:07:07.960 --> 01:07:10.800 it has like this blur to it that is very 1265 01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:13.000 much like a part of that game system or part 1266 01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:14.559 of that game is like aesthetic at this point. Because 1267 01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:17.480 it's built into the system, there's no way to turn 1268 01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:20.480 it off. Even if you were to get like cleaner cables, 1269 01:07:20.519 --> 01:07:22.519 like if you were to get an HDMI and plug 1270 01:07:22.519 --> 01:07:24.400 it in, it's still like, well, it still looks blurry 1271 01:07:24.480 --> 01:07:28.480 because the system just has that blur built in. The 1272 01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:31.440 mod I got lets you turn that blur off, which 1273 01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:35.920 does give you this like weirdly unnatural, like you weren't 1274 01:07:35.960 --> 01:07:39.039 supposed to experience these games looking like this, Like this 1275 01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:40.519 looks too clean. 1276 01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:46.159 Now, doctor Frankenston over here diving into the forbidden arts. 1277 01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:48.880 It's fascinating, though, It's like really fun to like go 1278 01:07:48.960 --> 01:07:50.960 back and be like what is ah, Like, ooh, look 1279 01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:53.559 how like crisp this looks. But it's like it's not 1280 01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:55.480 gonna look as good as an emulator, like I mean, 1281 01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:58.239 like objectively, like if you were to look at the 1282 01:07:58.280 --> 01:08:01.239 switch ones, like they look better because the internal resolution 1283 01:08:01.519 --> 01:08:03.480 in those games have been bumped up, so like yeah, 1284 01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:06.400 they look like clean and sharp sharp edges in a 1285 01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:09.480 way that this is like, well, no, the resolution is 1286 01:08:09.519 --> 01:08:13.840 like so so low internally that it's like I have 1287 01:08:13.960 --> 01:08:15.719 cleaned it up and it's like a clean signal, but 1288 01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:19.600 it's still just it looks like an N sixty four game. 1289 01:08:19.920 --> 01:08:23.640 But it's it's fascinating to to like mess with that stuff. 1290 01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:28.359 The mod also has this really great built in like 1291 01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:31.239 CRT scan line feature, which I'm normally not a big 1292 01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:36.039 fan of I don't like that on like older consoles 1293 01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:39.479 because I'm like, now, give me them like sharp, sharp pixels. 1294 01:08:39.479 --> 01:08:41.399 I want to see I want to see that stuff 1295 01:08:41.399 --> 01:08:45.119 as sharp as possible. But I think because the graphics 1296 01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:48.560 on the N sixty four look so bad, like haven't 1297 01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:53.079 aged the best, that the CR the scan line filter 1298 01:08:53.159 --> 01:08:57.439 actually makes them look way more palatable to play. So 1299 01:08:57.800 --> 01:09:00.199 something about like you get that clean signal from the 1300 01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:02.079 HD mind, then you put on the scan line filter 1301 01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:07.520 and you're like, yeah, yeah, this hits. So it's it's cool. 1302 01:09:07.640 --> 01:09:11.199 If you're willing to spend hundreds of dollars to mod 1303 01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:14.520 your N sixty four, you can go check it out. 1304 01:09:14.560 --> 01:09:19.159 It's called the N sixty four Digital Pixel FX. You 1305 01:09:19.239 --> 01:09:21.720 have to buy the thing and then you have to modit, which, 1306 01:09:21.720 --> 01:09:25.840 by the way, modding it is extremely complicated. It is 1307 01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:27.560 not a beginner mod so I actually had to send 1308 01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:30.000 it out to a guy to get it modded. So yes, 1309 01:09:30.039 --> 01:09:34.000 I spent I spent more money than I should just 1310 01:09:34.039 --> 01:09:35.840 so that I could plug an. 1311 01:09:35.800 --> 01:09:38.319 N sixty four sixty four. 1312 01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:40.680 But I can play the N sixty four games that 1313 01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:44.880 Nintendo will never, never ever put out on their modern systems. 1314 01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:47.960 I can play Golden Eye and I can play you know, 1315 01:09:48.319 --> 01:09:51.920 the OG version of Perfect Dark and all that stuff. 1316 01:09:51.960 --> 01:09:55.159 So it's cool. Yeah, it's fun and sixty fourth hot 1317 01:09:55.239 --> 01:09:55.960 right now. 1318 01:09:57.520 --> 01:10:00.720 I respect that you went for it, that you're willing 1319 01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:01.800 to commit money to it. 1320 01:10:02.439 --> 01:10:02.760 Thank you. 1321 01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:05.880 Yeah, it's the pandemic. What else are you going to 1322 01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:08.880 do with that money? Nothing, We're burning a hole in 1323 01:10:08.920 --> 01:10:09.479 your pocket. 1324 01:10:11.159 --> 01:10:13.680 Cool? And then can we get an update on your 1325 01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:14.960 horror movies? Please? 1326 01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:19.279 Oh? Yes, I live for these, Yes, absolutely, so let 1327 01:10:19.359 --> 01:10:23.800 me pull up the list, because I think last we 1328 01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:27.279 talked about we talked about a bunch of stuff. I 1329 01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:32.760 think we ended with us seeing Conjuring this last moe 1330 01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:37.079 we saw. So we watched the og Halloween or maybe 1331 01:10:37.079 --> 01:10:38.920 a dimension og Halloween. I don't remember if I didn't, 1332 01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:39.920 we watched og Halloween. 1333 01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:40.560 It was very good. 1334 01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:45.039 Yeah, we watched Reanimator. Have you just seen Reanimator? 1335 01:10:46.039 --> 01:10:46.399 No? 1336 01:10:46.520 --> 01:10:48.359 I don't, Okay, it doesn't sound. 1337 01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:55.119 Reanimator is a I think eighties or nineties comedy, horror comedy. 1338 01:10:55.239 --> 01:10:59.520 It's like it's it's called HP Lovecraft's re Animator. I 1339 01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:01.880 don't know if it's actually based on an HP Lovecraft thing, 1340 01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:05.640 because it is very like contemporary. It's basically just about 1341 01:11:05.640 --> 01:11:11.800 this like crazy mad scientist guy from Switzerland who has 1342 01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:14.920 a serum that brings bodies back from the dead and 1343 01:11:14.960 --> 01:11:19.920 he's obsessed with it, and it just it's just trashy, 1344 01:11:21.079 --> 01:11:25.159 trashy horror nonsense. It's so the most famous thing about 1345 01:11:25.159 --> 01:11:27.439 this movie is that there is a decapitated head that 1346 01:11:28.159 --> 01:11:33.159 goes down on a woman in this movie is all right, 1347 01:11:33.760 --> 01:11:38.439 and that is both as weird and disturbing and awkward 1348 01:11:38.520 --> 01:11:44.159 as as it sounds. I really enjoyed this film. It's weird, 1349 01:11:44.239 --> 01:11:47.399 trashy nonsense. It's it's if you're into that kind of 1350 01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:51.560 style of like horror, I highly recommend it. It's it's 1351 01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:56.680 very strange. The probably the one that I want to 1352 01:11:56.760 --> 01:12:02.680 like really talk about, though, is Gingersnaps, because yeah, what 1353 01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:06.720 a film. Holy shit, Uh, the perfect. 1354 01:12:06.319 --> 01:12:11.760 Follow up for watching What is it Jennifer's Body? 1355 01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:13.039 Yeah. 1356 01:12:13.159 --> 01:12:16.880 No, it's basically the same, the same, Like you should 1357 01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:18.840 watch them if you haven't seen. 1358 01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:21.159 It's the exact same film, but it came out like 1359 01:12:21.239 --> 01:12:25.279 nine years earlier and is, in my opinion, the better film. 1360 01:12:26.439 --> 01:12:29.479 It's so good. I knew nothing about it going in, 1361 01:12:29.560 --> 01:12:30.920 so I don't want to like spoil too much for 1362 01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:33.800 those who don't know, but basically, it's it's like a 1363 01:12:33.840 --> 01:12:38.479 small it's very it's like a small indie film about 1364 01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:43.439 two sisters and then like a thing happens, and I 1365 01:12:43.479 --> 01:12:45.359 guess if you've seen Jennifer's body you can kind of 1366 01:12:45.359 --> 01:12:48.399 infer maybe something happens to one of the sisters and 1367 01:12:48.439 --> 01:12:49.640 then like things go from there. 1368 01:12:50.159 --> 01:12:50.279 Uh. 1369 01:12:50.520 --> 01:12:58.119 But what I love about the film is the characterization 1370 01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:03.960 of the sisters, who are these like late nineties early 1371 01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:08.000 two thousands, like depressed emo teens who just hate everyone 1372 01:13:08.680 --> 01:13:11.560 and like everyone in the movie is just like such 1373 01:13:11.600 --> 01:13:15.439 an asshole. Like the girls are an asshole, all of 1374 01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:20.640 their classmates are an assholes. They like. The sweetest character 1375 01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:23.359 in the movie is their mom, who is just like 1376 01:13:23.399 --> 01:13:28.600 this very naive, overly supportive mom who is just like 1377 01:13:29.199 --> 01:13:35.119 trying so hard to like bond with her kids and 1378 01:13:35.279 --> 01:13:38.119 just doesn't understand like what they're going through, both because 1379 01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:40.359 they're teens but also because they're going through some like weird, 1380 01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:47.800 fucked up horror movie shit. But I was so impressed 1381 01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:52.560 with its like portrayal of its of its female characters. 1382 01:13:52.600 --> 01:13:55.640 It's a movie written by a woman and it stars 1383 01:13:55.920 --> 01:13:59.119 like you know, female leads, but it's very much a 1384 01:13:59.159 --> 01:14:03.840 horror movie about out like teen girls, and like a 1385 01:14:03.840 --> 01:14:06.680 lot of it is like the horror of the movie 1386 01:14:06.720 --> 01:14:10.239 is like a metaphor for puberty. But where most movies 1387 01:14:11.640 --> 01:14:16.680 I feel like, use like teenage girls and teenage girls 1388 01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:19.439 puberty as sort of like a punchline, like you know, 1389 01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:23.039 like ew, that's oh, teen girls are gross and the 1390 01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:25.000 stuff they have to deal with is gross and like 1391 01:14:25.039 --> 01:14:29.159 kind of make fun of it. This movie feels way 1392 01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:33.720 more respectful, and it's like it's like it's like it's 1393 01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:37.520 made for teen girls who are like into this kind 1394 01:14:37.560 --> 01:14:41.319 of shit. It's like it's again it's hard to describe 1395 01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:45.600 it that like going to spoilery, but I was impressed 1396 01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:50.159 with how weirdly progressive this movie felt, especially for a 1397 01:14:50.239 --> 01:14:53.720 movie that came out in two thousand where there was 1398 01:14:53.800 --> 01:15:00.760 definitely not uh any respects you've made towards you know, 1399 01:15:00.840 --> 01:15:02.640 like teen girls from the stuff they like and and 1400 01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:07.079 I I was just enthralled the whole way through. I 1401 01:15:07.319 --> 01:15:09.960 I absolutely loved it. It's it's maybe up there now 1402 01:15:09.960 --> 01:15:11.800 with some of my favorite favorite films. 1403 01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:13.520 It's a trilogy. 1404 01:15:13.680 --> 01:15:18.119 Absolutely give it a watch. It's oh boy, I, Uh, 1405 01:15:18.359 --> 01:15:22.279 so I went down the I didn't watch the other two, 1406 01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:26.600 so I will say it the first movie ended in 1407 01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:30.159 such a perfect way. I will warn you the movie 1408 01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:32.600 is it's a it's a comedy, and it's definitely got 1409 01:15:32.600 --> 01:15:34.840 some funny stuff too it, but it also gets very serious. 1410 01:15:34.920 --> 01:15:39.000 And also there's a lot of dog murder and dog death. 1411 01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:44.920 It's it's very it can it kind of depend on you, 1412 01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:49.159 Like Georgia, she can be kind of sensitive to animal cruelty, 1413 01:15:49.239 --> 01:15:53.159 but it looks fake enough that she was like, yeah, 1414 01:15:53.239 --> 01:15:57.920 this like doesn't bother me. Also, it's the two thousands movie. 1415 01:15:57.920 --> 01:16:02.399 Don't use any CG. Like all all the horror stuff 1416 01:16:02.439 --> 01:16:05.640 is all like practical effects, and it looks really good 1417 01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:07.720 like they I thought they did a really good job, 1418 01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:12.199 you know, like working within like their smaller limitations and 1419 01:16:12.199 --> 01:16:15.079 doing like some really cool creature design stuff. But anyway, 1420 01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:17.359 the first movie I thought ended on such a perfect 1421 01:16:17.359 --> 01:16:18.920 note and I was like, Wow, what an amazing film, 1422 01:16:18.920 --> 01:16:22.079 What a perfect way to end that. And then I 1423 01:16:22.119 --> 01:16:23.760 found out there was a sequel, and I was like, 1424 01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:27.199 how how do you possibly make a sequel to that? 1425 01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:31.199 And so I read the Wikipedia entry and that second 1426 01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:36.920 movie sounds batshit boxs and then I was like, and 1427 01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:39.159 that and then the ending of that, according to Wikipedia, 1428 01:16:39.279 --> 01:16:40.640 also ends in a way where I was like, well, 1429 01:16:40.640 --> 01:16:42.800 how do you possibly make a sequel to that one? 1430 01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:47.800 Apparently the third one is just the first movie, but 1431 01:16:47.880 --> 01:16:51.199 it takes place in eighteen fifteen, and it's just all 1432 01:16:51.239 --> 01:16:55.720 the same characters, but they're in eighteen fifteen, and I'm like, okay, 1433 01:16:55.720 --> 01:16:58.640 so you're telling me is they made like an alternate 1434 01:16:58.800 --> 01:17:02.319 universe fan fiction of their first movie as a as 1435 01:17:02.319 --> 01:17:06.560 for the third movie, that's incredible. I don't know if 1436 01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:10.520 it's good, but God bless them for doing that. That's 1437 01:17:11.319 --> 01:17:14.479 more movies should do that. They should just make alternate 1438 01:17:14.520 --> 01:17:19.560 reality versions. Anyway, Ginger snaps Gosh school movie, and I 1439 01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:19.880 love that. 1440 01:17:19.920 --> 01:17:22.039 It's not like I thought it was kind of a 1441 01:17:22.079 --> 01:17:24.840 reference to the Cookie or whatever. But her name is 1442 01:17:24.880 --> 01:17:27.840 Ginger and she's she's snapping back at people. 1443 01:17:28.039 --> 01:17:31.159 Yes, No, it took. It took me a good twenty 1444 01:17:31.159 --> 01:17:34.000 minutes into the movie because I was just like, Ginger snaps, 1445 01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:35.760 and you say it that way, you say Ginger snaps 1446 01:17:35.800 --> 01:17:38.119 because you think the Cookie. And then at one point, 1447 01:17:38.199 --> 01:17:40.960 one of the characters called the main character Ginger and 1448 01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:46.319 I was like, oh, I figured out what the plot 1449 01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:52.119 of the movie is. I understand now, I mean, but 1450 01:17:52.319 --> 01:17:56.199 I might have to watch it. Yeah, it's it's I mean, 1451 01:17:56.359 --> 01:17:58.239 it's it's got some fun up shit, and I will 1452 01:17:58.279 --> 01:18:01.119 lie to you it definitely does. But it's it's really 1453 01:18:01.199 --> 01:18:01.680 damn good. 1454 01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:05.199 It's really good regardless of the intention. I now want 1455 01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:10.279 to eat, so definate to them working on multiple levels. 1456 01:18:10.880 --> 01:18:16.039 All right, that was a rich and deep look at 1457 01:18:16.079 --> 01:18:17.880 what we've been doing. So let's move on to the 1458 01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:21.039 next part show, which is a quiz. Yes, this is 1459 01:18:21.079 --> 01:18:24.119 the Jacob mccott one us Johan Luke take it away. 1460 01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:28.640 Yes, thank you to Jacob McCourt, one of our lovely 1461 01:18:28.640 --> 01:18:30.880 mods in the games about Discord. If you want to 1462 01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:35.000 check out the game spout Discord, you should message Loocier Tam. 1463 01:18:35.359 --> 01:18:38.439 They'll check if you're wronging and if you're not, let 1464 01:18:38.479 --> 01:18:40.680 you into the discord. It's a lovely time with lovely people. 1465 01:18:40.680 --> 01:18:44.079 But yes, Jacko and McCourt made this wonderful uh Halo 1466 01:18:44.119 --> 01:18:49.239 one one seven quiz. We're gonna start with the warm up. Okay, 1467 01:18:49.720 --> 01:18:55.359 the warm up. What is Master Chief's real name, John John? 1468 01:18:56.079 --> 01:18:58.840 Because he's John one one seven. Yeah, Oh wait, do 1469 01:18:58.880 --> 01:19:01.760 you mean the name? Wait does he get a new 1470 01:19:01.960 --> 01:19:03.960 name after Halsey kidnapped? 1471 01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:04.520 I don't think so. 1472 01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:06.880 Okay, isn't it just I always thought like. 1473 01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:10.119 He's always John, right, Okay? He was the one that 1474 01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:14.600 Halsey tested him by. He would always win a game 1475 01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:17.239 where you had to win the game by racing people 1476 01:19:17.319 --> 01:19:19.520 up a hill. And she's like, oh, this proves and 1477 01:19:19.640 --> 01:19:21.479 let me use this coin and see if you can 1478 01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:23.119 guess right. And he guessed right AND's like, ah, this 1479 01:19:23.199 --> 01:19:25.920 proves you're exceptionally lucky. I'm like, I'm not sure if 1480 01:19:25.920 --> 01:19:26.560 that's the case. 1481 01:19:27.119 --> 01:19:30.319 Okay, I love that you remember this. 1482 01:19:31.359 --> 01:19:34.000 Isn't his full name, like Petty chief Officer. 1483 01:19:37.319 --> 01:19:38.119 That's what I was like. 1484 01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:41.960 His first name is Petty, surname is Chief, and then 1485 01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:44.760 his middle name is Chief and surname. 1486 01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:47.359 Yeah, I know it's John. I don't know his last 1487 01:19:47.439 --> 01:19:49.239 name is because I'd want to say John Spartan. But 1488 01:19:49.279 --> 01:19:51.239 that's Artol Swarsinger's character. 1489 01:19:52.520 --> 01:19:57.159 No, that is no, it's not that. That is no, 1490 01:19:57.199 --> 01:20:00.560 that's the character in Demolition, right. 1491 01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:03.319 What was what was our sports anger's character in Commando? 1492 01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:09.079 Who cares? It's not as good as hey? John Demolition Man, 1493 01:20:09.239 --> 01:20:10.800 the greatest movie ever created. 1494 01:20:11.399 --> 01:20:19.399 Commando John Matrix. John Matrix is his name. Yeah, oh man, 1495 01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:22.680 they don't. They don't make action hero names like they 1496 01:20:22.760 --> 01:20:25.439 used to, which is just we should. 1497 01:20:25.479 --> 01:20:27.600 We should before we start before, I mean, we have 1498 01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:30.840 one question, and we should lay out our experience with Halo. 1499 01:20:31.479 --> 01:20:33.960 I read at least four or five of the Halo 1500 01:20:33.960 --> 01:20:37.199 books in middle school, so as well as playing all 1501 01:20:37.199 --> 01:20:40.159 the games, so I feel like I have to pull 1502 01:20:40.199 --> 01:20:43.279 into the recesses of my brain. But it's the information 1503 01:20:43.359 --> 01:20:44.079 is there somewhere. 1504 01:20:44.159 --> 01:20:48.800 Yeah, I yeah, I love the franchise. But to kind 1505 01:20:48.840 --> 01:20:52.560 of offset that, I've gotten acceptably ship memory. So we'll 1506 01:20:52.560 --> 01:20:53.319 see how that goes. 1507 01:20:54.479 --> 01:21:00.600 Davante, I didn't play one or two. I started with 1508 01:21:00.760 --> 01:21:04.800 three and was in a Halo tournament where I came 1509 01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:06.239 in third place out of three teams. 1510 01:21:06.640 --> 01:21:11.960 So damn that is that's powerful. I love it. 1511 01:21:12.479 --> 01:21:12.800 Jordan. 1512 01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:18.600 I have not played all of the games. I've not 1513 01:21:18.720 --> 01:21:25.520 played the original Halo Wars and a part of Halo two. 1514 01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:29.800 I have done Halo Wars too, which is important for 1515 01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:35.680 infinite and I've not read all of the books, but 1516 01:21:35.760 --> 01:21:41.319 I've read a decent amount of them enough that, like 1517 01:21:41.399 --> 01:21:43.840 you could ask me like who are Kelly and Linda? 1518 01:21:43.880 --> 01:21:45.840 And I could give you an answer. 1519 01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:48.640 Okay, Okay, so I've got a good breadth of knowledge. 1520 01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:51.119 Yes, yeah, came. Do you want to keep a score? 1521 01:21:51.159 --> 01:21:54.279 By the way, yes, So I mean like, are we 1522 01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:57.760 doing can we get Is this a contest between us? 1523 01:21:57.840 --> 01:21:59.119 Or are we doing like just you. 1524 01:21:59.039 --> 01:22:03.079 Know, I think yeah, yeah, I think we should all 1525 01:22:03.359 --> 01:22:05.039 like we will all get a point if we get 1526 01:22:05.039 --> 01:22:05.319 it right. 1527 01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:08.640 Okay, So it's not cooperative, it's competitive. 1528 01:22:10.520 --> 01:22:13.840 I mean, yeah, the people want a winner. Jordan. 1529 01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:16.399 Okay, so who called that one? Did I get that one? 1530 01:22:16.720 --> 01:22:20.399 Well? We all said John, And the answer is in 1531 01:22:20.439 --> 01:22:23.199 fact John one, one seven or John? So yes, we 1532 01:22:23.239 --> 01:22:23.920 all get a point. 1533 01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:30.960 Okay, I give his backstory? 1534 01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:34.600 Okay. How many mainline Halo games are there in the 1535 01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:38.600 series as of the recording of this episode? Mainly main 1536 01:22:38.720 --> 01:22:39.760 line main line? 1537 01:22:40.119 --> 01:22:42.800 Because you got wait, so by the recording of this episode, 1538 01:22:42.800 --> 01:22:46.079 does that mean it doesn't count Halo Infinite because Halo 1539 01:22:46.119 --> 01:22:47.359 Infinite hasn't come. 1540 01:22:48.399 --> 01:22:49.520 Yeah, I don't. 1541 01:22:49.399 --> 01:22:54.279 Know, but we do know about the game, like yeah, 1542 01:22:54.439 --> 01:22:59.000 because now the question says, has they been how many? 1543 01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:01.439 How many are there in the how many? 1544 01:23:01.439 --> 01:23:01.720 Has there? 1545 01:23:01.760 --> 01:23:03.800 How many are okay, so that counts. 1546 01:23:03.800 --> 01:23:09.880 I think I think Halo three, four, five, infinite I, 1547 01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:12.199 assuming you don't count. 1548 01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:17.800 The anniversaries for Combat Evolved and Too basically. 1549 01:23:18.359 --> 01:23:22.840 Remakes, I would counts T. I would count personally. 1550 01:23:24.520 --> 01:23:27.199 It's not main is it, it's society. 1551 01:23:27.479 --> 01:23:31.199 I wouldn't count Reach, wouldn't count reach, I would I 1552 01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:31.880 would count reach. 1553 01:23:32.279 --> 01:23:34.239 I would say the main line aren't the mainline games? 1554 01:23:34.279 --> 01:23:35.439 Just the ones that star. 1555 01:23:37.079 --> 01:23:37.840 Is that essentially? 1556 01:23:38.239 --> 01:23:41.960 Like yeah, like if we're talking, if we're talking straight 1557 01:23:42.039 --> 01:23:46.720 top main cannon like core Halo games, I think it's six, 1558 01:23:47.239 --> 01:23:50.159 but like if you want to bend it a bit 1559 01:23:50.319 --> 01:23:51.680 like od S T, and. 1560 01:23:52.119 --> 01:23:55.039 I think mainline refers to more like the style because 1561 01:23:55.279 --> 01:23:58.279 where that's where I'd be like, oh, the Halo Spartan 1562 01:23:58.279 --> 01:24:01.680 Assault I Pad game, Like that doesn't count. 1563 01:24:02.119 --> 01:24:06.239 That Wars and stuff like that. 1564 01:24:07.199 --> 01:24:15.760 Yeah, I think I think then Fortnight's Yeah, technically. 1565 01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:18.520 I guess eight. 1566 01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:23.680 If you count, yeah, I guess I'm counting ODSD and REACH. 1567 01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:29.319 Yeah, I'll go with the consensus, will count ods T 1568 01:24:29.520 --> 01:24:30.279 and Reach. 1569 01:24:31.039 --> 01:24:32.359 You can disagree if you want to. 1570 01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:37.119 Potentially, I mean, I'm going to say I'm going to 1571 01:24:37.199 --> 01:24:40.439 say six, just just because I don't. 1572 01:24:40.239 --> 01:24:43.039 Want to count ODSD and Reach. I think I'm trying to. 1573 01:24:43.119 --> 01:24:45.479 I'm trying to put myself in my in the space 1574 01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:46.800 of where Jacob McCall was. 1575 01:24:46.920 --> 01:24:49.439 Okay, so I'm going to say six. What you going 1576 01:24:49.479 --> 01:24:51.000 for I'm going for eight? 1577 01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:55.439 Okay, we've got to split. Okay, seven? 1578 01:24:56.800 --> 01:24:59.560 What counting that? We're not? 1579 01:25:00.239 --> 01:25:04.159 He okay, he didn't count Halo Infinite. So oh so 1580 01:25:04.399 --> 01:25:08.680 you're right, you're with the wait since I think we're right, 1581 01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:11.600 he didn't count. He didn't count Halo Infinite. So I 1582 01:25:11.640 --> 01:25:14.800 think if we collectively agree to each remove a number, 1583 01:25:15.279 --> 01:25:18.439 do not count Hale Infinite. Okay, then seven games, Halo, 1584 01:25:18.479 --> 01:25:22.159 Halo two, Halo three, Halo three, ods T, Halo Reach, 1585 01:25:22.159 --> 01:25:23.479 Halo four, and Halo five. 1586 01:25:23.680 --> 01:25:29.960 You're wrong, sir. None of us, John Luke and DeVante 1587 01:25:30.039 --> 01:25:30.680 are getting I. 1588 01:25:30.640 --> 01:25:35.920 Would say, and Davante, Okay. How many Halo Wars games 1589 01:25:35.920 --> 01:25:36.399 have been made? 1590 01:25:37.119 --> 01:25:38.439 Two? Who? 1591 01:25:38.920 --> 01:25:39.199 Two? 1592 01:25:40.600 --> 01:25:42.640 The answer is to yes, these are the warm ups? 1593 01:25:43.079 --> 01:25:44.159 Was there like a mobile on them? 1594 01:25:44.199 --> 01:25:44.399 For going? 1595 01:25:46.760 --> 01:25:49.600 Which developer created the Halo Wars series? In which developer 1596 01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:50.720 was brought in for the sequel? 1597 01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:55.439 Oh, Halo was I think creative assembly? 1598 01:25:56.960 --> 01:25:59.319 No, it wasn't great. It wasn't that the one that 1599 01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:04.880 it was on ensembles Ensemble? Yea ensemble because they don't 1600 01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:05.560 exist anymore. 1601 01:26:05.680 --> 01:26:09.520 Yeah, yeah it was uh yeah it was Ensemble Studios. 1602 01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:14.119 I don't remember who did the sequel if. 1603 01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:16.039 You no, no, I don't think you give me who 1604 01:26:16.039 --> 01:26:18.760 ever did the sequel? Like, they were well known for 1605 01:26:18.920 --> 01:26:23.199 doing like really big deep cinematics beforehand, and that's why 1606 01:26:23.239 --> 01:26:27.039 Halo Wars two has like the crazy good like cinema. 1607 01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:28.239 I think scenes. 1608 01:26:28.560 --> 01:26:29.000 I think. 1609 01:26:29.119 --> 01:26:32.359 I think Halo Wars two is creative assembly. Halo was 1610 01:26:32.359 --> 01:26:35.159 one was Ensembles creative. 1611 01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:36.720 That's my guess. That's my guess as well. 1612 01:26:37.079 --> 01:26:39.760 Yeah, I have no guesses, so I'll go with the cons. 1613 01:26:43.239 --> 01:26:46.600 Halo Wars one was Ensemble Studios RIP, and Halo Wars 1614 01:26:46.600 --> 01:26:50.479 two was creative assembly was support from three four three? Sweet, 1615 01:26:50.520 --> 01:26:55.720 we got it. What year is the original Halo set? Oh? 1616 01:26:55.920 --> 01:27:02.319 I totally know this. Uh. I think it is one, 1617 01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:07.560 it's two, one, four, Oh, it's the last number that's 1618 01:27:07.560 --> 01:27:08.119 gonna get me. 1619 01:27:08.880 --> 01:27:09.840 Nine. 1620 01:27:10.399 --> 01:27:11.800 I want to say seven or three. 1621 01:27:12.239 --> 01:27:14.359 That might be mass effect tam. 1622 01:27:14.039 --> 01:27:19.760 Oh okay, I think it's like twenty one, forty three 1623 01:27:20.039 --> 01:27:21.239 or forty seven. 1624 01:27:23.079 --> 01:27:24.239 I think it's forty three. 1625 01:27:24.680 --> 01:27:25.399 That sounds right. 1626 01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:27.880 Yeah, I'm getting so confused because I did so many 1627 01:27:27.920 --> 01:27:30.800 mass effects like timeline lore videos, and we had to 1628 01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:31.319 do something. 1629 01:27:31.239 --> 01:27:36.119 The day to say twenty one forty three. That's my guess, 1630 01:27:37.560 --> 01:27:37.960 I think. 1631 01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:41.159 Okay, yeah, I think it's forty three, twenty one forty 1632 01:27:41.199 --> 01:27:41.840 one forty three. 1633 01:27:41.960 --> 01:27:43.760 I'll just say which Hopefully I'm not just confusing with 1634 01:27:43.840 --> 01:27:50.880 Battlefield and yeah, oh no, completely wrong. 1635 01:27:51.039 --> 01:27:52.920 What was it really? What is it? 1636 01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:58.319 Twenty five point fifty two? I was twenty wayve wow five, 1637 01:27:58.479 --> 01:28:00.199 I was way off man. 1638 01:28:01.199 --> 01:28:03.199 The mystic of them to think that the human race 1639 01:28:03.279 --> 01:28:06.800 is going to last for another years. 1640 01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:09.800 Next. 1641 01:28:10.399 --> 01:28:13.199 Okay, now we're into the gauntlet. That was the easy 1642 01:28:13.239 --> 01:28:19.000 ship of Halo may share the same world as which 1643 01:28:19.039 --> 01:28:24.720 other Bungeee developed game series, say, the game Halo may 1644 01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:29.399 share the same world as which other Bungeee developed game series. 1645 01:28:30.399 --> 01:28:36.279 This marathon, the answer is marathon. Yes, do guys ever 1646 01:28:36.279 --> 01:28:37.760 play marathon? Marathon's weird? 1647 01:28:37.800 --> 01:28:39.159 Nope, Yeah, it's not. 1648 01:28:40.159 --> 01:28:44.000 My introduction to Bungee is pretty much just Halo and 1649 01:28:44.039 --> 01:28:47.319 then going from there to Destiny and not touching anything. 1650 01:28:47.399 --> 01:28:50.760 They are, they're they're really hard to go back to 1651 01:28:50.800 --> 01:28:53.279 because like they're really old, you know, PC shooters are 1652 01:28:53.359 --> 01:28:56.039 max shooters specifically, but some of the storytelling in those 1653 01:28:56.079 --> 01:29:00.359 games is kind of, uh, pretty mind blowing form then 1654 01:29:00.479 --> 01:29:05.239 like they like they're like cryptic AI fight stuff like 1655 01:29:05.319 --> 01:29:08.159 gets into some of like the really like Deep Lord 1656 01:29:08.159 --> 01:29:09.800 type of stuff that they were doing with like later 1657 01:29:09.840 --> 01:29:11.960 Halo games or even like Destiny now, like they were 1658 01:29:11.960 --> 01:29:14.439 doing that all the way back in like the nineties, 1659 01:29:14.520 --> 01:29:16.520 and it's it's kind of wild to to go back 1660 01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:18.680 and read that stuff, even though the games themselves are 1661 01:29:19.039 --> 01:29:22.319 in my opinion, just kind of Okay. What is the 1662 01:29:22.399 --> 01:29:26.479 name of the primary antagonist? And Halo four, Oh my lord. 1663 01:29:26.479 --> 01:29:28.159 I cannot remember one. 1664 01:29:29.720 --> 01:29:31.119 Was it the dict No? 1665 01:29:32.039 --> 01:29:37.479 Yeah, I think was four. I don't think I ever completely. 1666 01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:41.520 Might have been the dude who's protecting Kortana. And Halo five, No, 1667 01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:47.359 that was the Guardian things. You're right, right, there's a 1668 01:29:47.359 --> 01:29:50.119 lot of for Runner Tech that deals with like very 1669 01:29:50.279 --> 01:29:52.159 similar words. 1670 01:29:52.680 --> 01:29:56.119 I'm gonna say, right, that was. 1671 01:29:56.039 --> 01:29:58.560 My gut reaction, and I'm gonna go with the gut, 1672 01:29:58.720 --> 01:29:59.760 go with dik. 1673 01:29:59.560 --> 01:30:06.199 Yeah, I'll go well, uh the yes, the I, although 1674 01:30:06.199 --> 01:30:08.640 he says it, it's pronounced the d act is how 1675 01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:14.119 it's pronounced. What act I can't be right, or the 1676 01:30:14.159 --> 01:30:16.920 Shadow of Sundered Star, which is probably a name from 1677 01:30:17.000 --> 01:30:19.560 the books that I didn't read, the Forerunner or one. 1678 01:30:19.479 --> 01:30:22.319 Of those logs that you could find or something. 1679 01:30:22.319 --> 01:30:25.479 All I remember about that is in Halo four you 1680 01:30:25.560 --> 01:30:28.359 meet that character. He shows up at a cut scene, leaves, 1681 01:30:28.560 --> 01:30:31.680 and then the next cutscene both Master Chiefs and Kortana 1682 01:30:31.760 --> 01:30:34.239 are just calling him the Died Act and but he 1683 01:30:34.319 --> 01:30:36.399 never said his name, and I was so confused. 1684 01:30:36.439 --> 01:30:41.560 There's clearly something there was, like you're talking like, why. 1685 01:30:41.479 --> 01:30:43.000 Does everyone know who this guy is? 1686 01:30:43.199 --> 01:30:43.279 He? 1687 01:30:43.520 --> 01:30:47.520 Just what? All right? Okay? In the Religion of the Covenant, 1688 01:30:47.680 --> 01:30:51.039 describe the Great Journey, all. 1689 01:30:51.000 --> 01:30:57.079 Right, the entire philosophy of Halo two and Halo three, 1690 01:30:57.319 --> 01:30:58.039 like that entire. 1691 01:30:57.960 --> 01:31:02.000 Day may he somehow managed to fit into one short line. So, 1692 01:31:02.800 --> 01:31:04.800 I mean, it's basically just. 1693 01:31:04.880 --> 01:31:07.880 Unleast the flood and killing he that they go on. 1694 01:31:07.960 --> 01:31:10.560 Its activating the Halo. It's activating the Halo and then 1695 01:31:10.600 --> 01:31:14.960 they all like Ascent to Heaven. 1696 01:31:15.439 --> 01:31:19.600 Yeah, their thing is it's a stupid plan. 1697 01:31:21.399 --> 01:31:24.399 Send to Godhood after activating the Halo ring. It's so 1698 01:31:24.520 --> 01:31:28.359 weird because even like the they reveal that the the 1699 01:31:28.479 --> 01:31:30.600 prophets all know it's fake too, and I'm like, well, 1700 01:31:30.600 --> 01:31:33.319 then why are you doing it? You could you could 1701 01:31:33.359 --> 01:31:36.600 just stop if you know it's fake. Why are you 1702 01:31:36.680 --> 01:31:37.000 doing that? 1703 01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:40.119 They've already invested so much time they just have to 1704 01:31:40.159 --> 01:31:40.600 keep going. 1705 01:31:41.239 --> 01:31:43.600 Yeah, it's yeah, real time single that one. 1706 01:31:44.520 --> 01:31:48.760 Uh So, who's getting points for that? 1707 01:31:50.880 --> 01:31:52.159 Oh? All of us? Because we all got it. 1708 01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:53.399 I'll take it. 1709 01:31:54.239 --> 01:31:56.840 I accidentally mentioned the flood instead of the Halo ring, 1710 01:31:56.920 --> 01:31:58.359 so I feel like I shouldn't get the point. 1711 01:32:03.159 --> 01:32:07.279 Jennifer Hale, the voice of Kurtana, voices which prominent video 1712 01:32:07.319 --> 01:32:09.920 game princess princess? 1713 01:32:10.760 --> 01:32:13.600 Mm hmm, that's what threw me off too. 1714 01:32:14.399 --> 01:32:20.039 This is a Halo question, okay, related, I'm oh nine 1715 01:32:20.800 --> 01:32:21.279 in this one. 1716 01:32:21.920 --> 01:32:23.600 What I won't say it because I want you guys 1717 01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:24.479 to guess it. 1718 01:32:25.079 --> 01:32:25.319 Fuck? 1719 01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:28.199 Who else does Jennifer? 1720 01:32:28.239 --> 01:32:30.359 Wait, are you saying video game princess? 1721 01:32:30.640 --> 01:32:34.880 Or yes, a video game princess? Sorry not Jennifer Hale. 1722 01:32:34.960 --> 01:32:39.039 I'm sorry. Gen Taylor, voice of Katana. I'm sorry. I 1723 01:32:39.079 --> 01:32:40.960 fear you guys off hundred percent my. 1724 01:32:40.840 --> 01:32:43.279 Back, okay, Okay, I just want the word. 1725 01:32:43.159 --> 01:32:45.760 Jen And I was like, Jennifer Hale. 1726 01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:48.439 Auto correct auto correct. 1727 01:32:48.239 --> 01:32:51.039 Yeah, my brain a corrected that. No. Sorry. Gen Taylor, 1728 01:32:51.079 --> 01:32:55.439 the voice of Kurtana voices which prominent video game princess? 1729 01:32:55.720 --> 01:32:56.239 I know this. 1730 01:32:57.079 --> 01:32:59.359 Apologies to everyone listening to this who was screaming at me. 1731 01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:01.000 What the fuck are you talking about? 1732 01:33:01.359 --> 01:33:01.840 I did that. 1733 01:33:01.920 --> 01:33:03.520 I did that literally the other day. 1734 01:33:04.079 --> 01:33:08.199 When when? When? When this? Because she sounds very similar. 1735 01:33:09.359 --> 01:33:12.439 Is she the English voice of Zelda and Breath of 1736 01:33:12.479 --> 01:33:20.279 the World. No, if she thinks so. No, no, because 1737 01:33:20.279 --> 01:33:22.439 like when I think prominent princess, like the only two 1738 01:33:22.479 --> 01:33:24.800 that come to mind are Zelda and Peach. But maybe 1739 01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:29.279 that's just my Nintendo bias showing, like that's where my. 1740 01:33:29.119 --> 01:33:30.159 Brain know this. 1741 01:33:30.319 --> 01:33:37.920 But my brain is not pulling pulling it as I needed. No, 1742 01:33:38.159 --> 01:33:39.000 it's not coming to me. 1743 01:33:39.479 --> 01:33:41.039 Yeah, I'm not going to get this one. 1744 01:33:41.119 --> 01:33:43.039 I'm ninety percent sure it's Princess Peach. 1745 01:33:45.279 --> 01:33:47.520 Which game? Which game does she voice? Question? 1746 01:33:48.199 --> 01:33:51.319 The answer is yes, Princess Peach. She does voice Princess. 1747 01:33:52.560 --> 01:33:53.039 Grow Up. 1748 01:33:57.439 --> 01:34:02.399 She voices Princess Peach. Uh good, A good chunk of them. 1749 01:34:02.880 --> 01:34:06.880 I don't think she did Odyssey, but uh yeah. Shout 1750 01:34:06.880 --> 01:34:09.880 out to Jen Taylor putting the work, putting in the 1751 01:34:09.880 --> 01:34:14.680 work question ten. In twenty eighteen, Oh, this is gonna 1752 01:34:14.680 --> 01:34:19.000 be uh, I'm cool boy. In twenty eighteen, Xbox partnered 1753 01:34:19.039 --> 01:34:23.319 with which with which North American arcade chain to launch 1754 01:34:24.359 --> 01:34:28.039 Halo fire teen Fire Team Raven into arcades. 1755 01:34:29.239 --> 01:34:33.039 Oh what the fuck is Fire Team Raven? 1756 01:34:33.239 --> 01:34:35.159 It was an arcade version. I think I actually know 1757 01:34:35.199 --> 01:34:38.920 the answer to this. That was my guest. I think 1758 01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:41.800 it's Steven Busters. I'm pretty sure. 1759 01:34:41.960 --> 01:34:44.279 That's the only like arcade thing that I know that 1760 01:34:45.279 --> 01:34:46.399 I remember. 1761 01:34:46.560 --> 01:34:49.600 I remember people being like, is there a nearby David 1762 01:34:49.640 --> 01:34:52.239 Busters that can go too so I can clear the 1763 01:34:52.319 --> 01:34:53.640 Halo arcade. 1764 01:34:53.720 --> 01:34:55.439 I'm pretty sure David Busters is right. 1765 01:34:56.720 --> 01:35:00.479 Yep, it is David, Chris and Tam. I didn't have 1766 01:35:00.600 --> 01:35:03.920 me write that news story, so I didn't know. 1767 01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:09.279 Oh oh boy. How many Halo books have been published 1768 01:35:09.279 --> 01:35:14.039 as of the recording of the episode, including anthologies, novellas, 1769 01:35:14.199 --> 01:35:18.079 and y A adaptions. There are why A Halo adaptions? 1770 01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:20.239 Yeah, there are, And I'm not going to get this 1771 01:35:20.319 --> 01:35:24.600 because there's a lot, and I won't know the exact numbers. 1772 01:35:24.920 --> 01:35:28.039 Okay, there is seventeen. 1773 01:35:27.800 --> 01:35:32.199 The OG three, then there was Fall, there was there 1774 01:35:32.239 --> 01:35:33.199 was those three. 1775 01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:34.920 Like, are they also counting like the comics too, Like 1776 01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:36.960 there's some like graphic novels. 1777 01:35:36.560 --> 01:35:41.520 And yeah, I had like a graphic novel that I 1778 01:35:41.560 --> 01:35:43.920 got stolen from my locker in middle school and I 1779 01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:45.119 was really devastated about it. 1780 01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:48.880 What this feel? This feels like the main line question again, 1781 01:35:48.920 --> 01:35:51.520 where I'm like, I need to know like the exact parameters, 1782 01:35:51.680 --> 01:35:54.840 but also I think even the exact I would all 1783 01:35:54.960 --> 01:35:55.840 get the exact. 1784 01:35:55.960 --> 01:35:58.159 With whoever gets the closest, because I doubt we're going 1785 01:35:58.239 --> 01:36:01.279 to get the right number, So I is it over under? Yeah, 1786 01:36:01.319 --> 01:36:04.399 we'll do like they're over under whoever, whoever's the closest. 1787 01:36:04.520 --> 01:36:11.119 I'm gonna go with eighteen eighteen novels. 1788 01:36:11.159 --> 01:36:18.239 I'm gonna I'm gonna go with fourteen. 1789 01:36:19.199 --> 01:36:22.960 Okay, when you even do something like wild, I'm gonna 1790 01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:26.159 do like forty. 1791 01:36:27.760 --> 01:36:34.359 What would you say? DeVante twenty four? Twenty four? Oh, 1792 01:36:34.439 --> 01:36:38.479 thirty four? Jordan takes it almost said thirty two. 1793 01:36:38.560 --> 01:36:39.640 I should have two. 1794 01:36:40.640 --> 01:36:41.760 I thought it was too high. 1795 01:36:42.199 --> 01:36:45.680 Thirty four Halo, though, I'm like, I know there's been 1796 01:36:45.720 --> 01:36:49.119 a lot, Like there's definitely been more than fifteen, because 1797 01:36:49.159 --> 01:36:52.039 like when I recently was like, oh, Halo Infinite's coming out, 1798 01:36:52.039 --> 01:36:55.359 maybe we should do like a here's the timeline of 1799 01:36:55.399 --> 01:36:57.279 Halo to get you caught up in Halo Infinite. I 1800 01:36:57.319 --> 01:36:59.960 did like a quick cursory search to like see if 1801 01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:02.920 I was feasible, and I was like, oh, absolutely not. 1802 01:37:03.119 --> 01:37:04.960 And I have not suggested it. 1803 01:37:06.880 --> 01:37:09.680 Before you suggest it in a meeting, because otherwise you've 1804 01:37:09.720 --> 01:37:13.079 committed yourself to a bad time. 1805 01:37:14.079 --> 01:37:17.920 There's so much lore for those games, and we'll see 1806 01:37:17.960 --> 01:37:20.199 how much Halo Infinite dives into it. I have to 1807 01:37:20.199 --> 01:37:22.479 do like a quick reread ahead of time. 1808 01:37:23.239 --> 01:37:27.960 All right, number twelve, which Sons of Anarchy star has 1809 01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:30.760 a role in the Halo series. 1810 01:37:31.880 --> 01:37:32.000 I have. 1811 01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:36.720 If I just had to throw a guess, I would say, 1812 01:37:37.960 --> 01:37:41.479 is it the guy who plays Lock? Because he it is? 1813 01:37:41.520 --> 01:37:45.760 It is? I can't remember when his Yeah, that was 1814 01:37:45.800 --> 01:37:46.359 just like my guest. 1815 01:37:46.439 --> 01:37:50.199 I was like a guy who plays Locke would maybe 1816 01:37:50.199 --> 01:37:51.439 be there. I don't know his name. 1817 01:37:52.960 --> 01:37:55.079 Oh, because what's his name? 1818 01:37:55.640 --> 01:38:05.560 Fuck uh? Because he plays himself before he becomes a spartan. 1819 01:38:05.760 --> 01:38:09.920 He's he's isn't isn't he in? He's Luke Cage? 1820 01:38:11.239 --> 01:38:14.399 Yes, but what's his name? What's Michael? 1821 01:38:15.039 --> 01:38:19.800 Michael? It's Michael Kolka. 1822 01:38:20.560 --> 01:38:26.000 No, we were wrong Uh, he's not in Sons of Anarchy. Uh, 1823 01:38:26.039 --> 01:38:27.079 it's Ron Pearlman. 1824 01:38:27.359 --> 01:38:29.880 I was gonna say, why is he? Oh my god, 1825 01:38:31.079 --> 01:38:34.680 why he? Why is he in Sons of Anarchy? He's 1826 01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:35.359 Luke Cage. 1827 01:38:35.479 --> 01:38:37.319 See I threw it off because I was just like, oh, 1828 01:38:37.399 --> 01:38:40.680 it's just got to be him. No, it is Ron Pearlman. Who. Yeah, 1829 01:38:40.680 --> 01:38:42.359 I guess he's in Sons of Anarchy. I don't know. 1830 01:38:42.359 --> 01:38:44.760 I've never seen that show, but I forgot Ron Perlman. 1831 01:38:45.319 --> 01:38:46.800 Hell Boy, you're talking about hell Boy? 1832 01:38:47.000 --> 01:38:50.479 No, yeah, hell Boy he's Uh, he's lord Hood in 1833 01:38:50.520 --> 01:38:51.520 mass Efect two and three. 1834 01:38:52.239 --> 01:38:54.840 He is in Sons Remember commercials. 1835 01:38:55.960 --> 01:38:58.760 A lot of weird random voice actors like David Cross 1836 01:38:58.800 --> 01:39:04.920 is in Halo two. Uh, it's like random, yes, David Cross, 1837 01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:09.399 it is a Halo two. It's like random Marines along 1838 01:39:09.439 --> 01:39:12.039 with like Michelle Rodriguez. Like it's weird. Did they just 1839 01:39:12.800 --> 01:39:17.439 grabbed weird random like celebrities and put them in that 1840 01:39:17.520 --> 01:39:21.119 game because Microsoft had so much money to burn? 1841 01:39:22.319 --> 01:39:24.239 Uh? 1842 01:39:24.279 --> 01:39:28.079 Okay, fun little bonus question about Ron Perman. Ron Perman 1843 01:39:28.119 --> 01:39:30.560 has appeared as the narrator in several games in which 1844 01:39:30.720 --> 01:39:35.680 RPG series. Answer is Fallout. That's an easy one. All right, 1845 01:39:36.399 --> 01:39:45.920 final question, when does that it's a bonus? Okay, question, 1846 01:39:47.479 --> 01:39:53.920 when does Halo Infinite drop? It's your birthday? 1847 01:39:54.119 --> 01:39:57.760 Yeah? Thank you Xbox. This is the best birthday present 1848 01:39:57.800 --> 01:39:58.680 you could have given me. 1849 01:40:00.199 --> 01:40:11.319 Jeez, happy birthday. That is correct, December eighth, and that 1850 01:40:11.439 --> 01:40:13.640 is it for the one one seven quiz. Thank you 1851 01:40:13.760 --> 01:40:14.399 Jacob mccurty. 1852 01:40:14.439 --> 01:40:16.720 Thank you. The winner was Jordan for that lovely quiz. 1853 01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:18.920 The winner was Jordan. Jordan Hitler comes out on. 1854 01:40:18.920 --> 01:40:23.560 His birthcas comes and also he got closest to the 1855 01:40:23.720 --> 01:40:24.640 novel number one. 1856 01:40:24.840 --> 01:40:27.319 Yeah yeah, really that was by far the hardest questions. 1857 01:40:27.399 --> 01:40:28.359 Yeah, well done. 1858 01:40:28.399 --> 01:40:31.439 Thank you Jacob for that excellent quiz, and thank you 1859 01:40:31.479 --> 01:40:34.159 for listening to the game Spot Off the Dark podcast. 1860 01:40:34.199 --> 01:40:36.479 We promised you you'd get a long one soon, and 1861 01:40:36.520 --> 01:40:39.119 you've got a long one. Stop complaining. 1862 01:40:40.399 --> 01:40:41.119 I'm not even sure. 1863 01:40:41.319 --> 01:40:42.680 I don't think anyone's complaining. 1864 01:40:43.119 --> 01:40:44.920 I'm about to say I don't think a single person, 1865 01:40:45.439 --> 01:40:46.279 a single person. 1866 01:40:46.399 --> 01:40:50.319 Everyone's been very understanding, So I apologize for that very 1867 01:40:50.640 --> 01:40:53.840 antagonistic comment, but seriously, stop complaining. 1868 01:40:55.680 --> 01:41:00.520 Uh, Jordan, where you're at? Where can people find you? 1869 01:41:00.520 --> 01:41:04.800 You can find me on Twitter at JM Remae just 1870 01:41:05.640 --> 01:41:07.840 a lot of Apex stuff this week. By the time 1871 01:41:07.880 --> 01:41:13.119 this comes out, the embargo for Apex Legends Season eleven 1872 01:41:13.399 --> 01:41:16.319 previews we'll have gone off, and so Persia will have 1873 01:41:16.319 --> 01:41:19.680 published some stuff, All have published some stuff. Just Apex 1874 01:41:19.680 --> 01:41:22.640 for days, and we'll probably keep going until the season 1875 01:41:22.760 --> 01:41:24.079 starts on November two. 1876 01:41:24.640 --> 01:41:27.880 Lovely Davante, where can people find you? 1877 01:41:27.920 --> 01:41:31.840 And all Yokka You can find me over on Twitter 1878 01:41:31.960 --> 01:41:38.439 at DeVante Chisholm, and you know in GameSpot News every 1879 01:41:38.479 --> 01:41:39.000 other week. 1880 01:41:39.960 --> 01:41:41.800 Fantastic John Luke. 1881 01:41:42.399 --> 01:41:46.239 You can find me over at John Ksipkee. The one 1882 01:41:46.319 --> 01:41:47.960 thing I'm working on that I can at least just 1883 01:41:47.960 --> 01:41:50.199 say that I'm playing it is shouldn't got me ten 1884 01:41:50.279 --> 01:41:53.159 say five? There was like a previewmbargo that went up 1885 01:41:53.319 --> 01:41:55.760 on Monday. I don't want to talk about it on 1886 01:41:55.800 --> 01:41:59.159 the podcast just because it's so early still that I'd 1887 01:41:59.239 --> 01:42:03.119 rather just talk about it more in the coming weeks 1888 01:42:03.119 --> 01:42:04.920 when I can say more about it, because I just 1889 01:42:04.920 --> 01:42:07.920 didn't have too much to say about it. But uh, yeah, 1890 01:42:08.079 --> 01:42:10.840 that is a game. It's coming out. If if if 1891 01:42:10.840 --> 01:42:14.920 you like SMT like Demons, you should stay tuned for 1892 01:42:15.079 --> 01:42:16.000 more coverage of that game. 1893 01:42:17.279 --> 01:42:23.560 You like Demons, you like demons boy. Yeah, I'm excited 1894 01:42:23.560 --> 01:42:24.840 for that. Yeah. 1895 01:42:24.880 --> 01:42:27.520 You can find me on Twitter at tom H and 1896 01:42:27.600 --> 01:42:30.319 I am on Twitch at H and I'm on everything 1897 01:42:30.680 --> 01:42:33.159 there with that same news name. And what am I doing? 1898 01:42:33.359 --> 01:42:35.800 Who knows? No one really knows why I do anymore. 1899 01:42:35.960 --> 01:42:41.560 I just in there, everything and nothing. That's why I do. Uh. 1900 01:42:41.840 --> 01:42:43.520 We will see you next week. 1901 01:42:44.000 --> 01:43:08.119 Bye, don't Frank, don't something el