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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, this is Pet Life Radio. Let's talk pets.

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Speaker 2: It's all behaved with Arden More, this show that teaches

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you how to have harmony in the household with your pets.

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Speaker 3: Join Ardna.

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Speaker 2: She travels coast to coast to help millions better understand

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why cats and dogs do what they do. Get that

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latest scoop on famous spaces, they're perfectly pampered pets, and

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who's walking Go and rent in Tinseltown. From famous pet

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experts and best selling authors to television and movie stars.

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You'll get the latest buzz from Wagging Tongues and Tails Garner,

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great pet tips and have a dog one fer flying

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fun time. So get ready for the paws and applause

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as we unleaseh your oh behave hosts America's pet edutainer

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Arden Moore.

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Speaker 1: Hey, pet pals, Welcome to the Old Behave Show on

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Pet Life Radio. I'm your host, Arden Moore. Our special

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guest today is about to take you on a very

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unique world tour. He's an award winning photographer and author.

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You know he could talk about the lou Museum in Paris,

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or maybe the ancient Parthenon in Athens. Nope, he's here

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for all you cat lovers in search of cat cafes,

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cat museums, and other feline attractions. And he details all

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of this in his must get new book it's aptly

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called Ready for It, Street Cats and Where to find Them.

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Please join me in extending a meavolis Welcome to Jeff Bogel.

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Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome, Jeff, Thank you Arden. This is such a

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pleasure to be here. I thank you for that amazing introduction. Yes,

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I could take people to the famous stuff in these

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amazing cities, but I let's skip all that and just

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go straight for the cats.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it and everybody. He's a

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cat daddy. He's a daddy of two gals daughters, and

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he kind of gets around a lot around the globe.

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Have you ever figured out how many different countries you've

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actually visited?

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Speaker 3: Jank you, I'm one of those. I'm one of those

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dorks that that keeps a running list on his phone.

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I have a list of countries I've been to. I

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have a list of countries my wife and I've been

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to together, my kids have been to. I've I've got

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many lists on my phone. Yes, I've been the fifty

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seven countries on five continent six continents I'm missing.

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Speaker 1: What's the missing continent?

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Speaker 3: Australia, New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Oh, maybe you got to get there, correct, I know. So,

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where is a place that is on your bucket list

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that you would want to go next? What's what's the

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place you haven't been to you're trying to pine for.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to check that bucket list box off in January,

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Hong Kong. Very excited to go to Hong Kong to

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see the shopcats of Hong Kong and just to see

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those high rises on either side of that bay. Photos

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of that of that place just make my jaw drop.

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So I'm very excited to see that.

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Speaker 1: So I say that real men love cats, and you

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need to add to that verification. What's your home situation

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like outside of Philly.

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Speaker 3: My wife and I have four cats. I'm a dad

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of two human daughters and four feline daughters. Oh my god,

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you are all girls. I'm a girl dad across the board.

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I love girl cats. My soul cat who the book

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is dedicated to, Tilly. She was one of those rare

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orange tabby girls. Lost her six years ago. The book

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there's two pictures of her in the front of the book.

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Everything else's street cats. But there's two pictures of my

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baby that are in there, so that she lives forever,

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because as long as that book is being printed, my

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Tilly is never truly gone.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I know that is Killy from Peru.

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Speaker 3: Tilly, no Tilly Rescue from the SPCA. Okay, well, sixteen

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years ago. Had her for ten years and then wow,

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missed away. And I think about her every day. I

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generally cry when I say her name. She meant the

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world to me. It's been again six years in June.

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Speaker 1: That's it doesn't matter in the heart. Your heart beats Tilly,

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and I love that.

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Speaker 3: And as I was traveling to make this book, I

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felt not to get spiritual or kind of existential about this,

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but orange cats kept, more than any other color or

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type of cats kept coming to me, and I felt

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I wanted to feel. I had to feel that that

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was Tilly's sending me I'm gonna start crash. That was

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Tilly sending me her friends to be with me.

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Speaker 1: Well, I have two orange cats, Casey and Rusty, pet

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safety cat. Casey who teaches her. Staid is a therapy cat,

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a big long, lean pern machine. And then we have

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a smaller orange cat named Rusty, whose full name is

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Rusty the per Former because he was a former amazing

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Cat circus cat. So if you don't watch out, Rusty

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will leap on your shoulders and I'll let you walk

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around the house with him straped around you.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: So let's dive in because I like the fact that

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people need a little bit background on you, because you

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have an eye for things, and you have the ability

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to write. And have you ever figured out how many

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books you've written on various topics, but your your genre

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seems to be travel?

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Speaker 3: Well? Yeah, So interestingly, I've only this is my third book. Technically,

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I've written two guided journals, one for dads to help

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help them tell their story through a series of one

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hundred really reflectives.

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Speaker 1: Well, isn't it called one hundred Questions for Dad?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was long in the Nose with the title

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of that Much and then and then a similar one

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for kids to talk about how much they love their dads.

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This is my first prosaic because with the travel stories

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that are in here, there's a real narrative, not an

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arc to it, because every destination has its own standalone essay.

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But I've written a more of a magazine and travel writer.

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So I've written for just as we record this today,

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I filed my first piece for BBC Travel, but I've

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written for travel and leisure, photors, readers, Digest, Good House,

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keep It, almost everyone. There's a few bucketless publications of

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our Washington Post. There's a few bucket list publications I

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haven't written for yet, but I've been doing it for

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a while.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And what I like is the book Streetcats and

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Where to Find Them. Hey, pet pals, We're going to

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dive in more and find out where he's been and

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what these streetcats are all about and how do you

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interact with them. But we got to take a quick break,

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and you all know the drill. We're gonna sit and

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per We'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: Time for a pause.

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Speaker 2: Four very ones, actually sit and stay all behave.

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with more tail wagging ways to achieve harmony of the

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household with your pets. Now back to your fetching host,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Old Behave Show on Petlife Radio.

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I'm your host, Arden Moore. We're speaking with author and photographer.

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He is up to discuss a new book. It's called

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Streetcats and Where to Find Them The man gets around

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the globe. I love the concept of this because I've

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been to several countries and I'm always looking for that

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cat in different countries. And I actually went to the

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ruins of the Parthenon in Athens, Greece on a tour.

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I was there to teach pet first state and safety.

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But I'm on a regular tour. You know how bolls are, Yeah,

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And we're climbing up to see the ancient Parthenon ruins

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no high, yeah and yeah. And then this black cat

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comes out of nowhere and he comes to our group,

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not to anybody else but me. I stick my little

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finger out. It's called the kiddy Hello, and he rubs

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his cheek against my index finger. And this lady who

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had just met me said, you really are in the

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pet business argue, and I said, yeah. I don't know

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what's more exciting saying the Parthenon or being greeted by

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a cat.

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Speaker 3: It's the latter. It's not even it's not even a

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question having a cat choose you, trust you, and vet

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you like. I think one of the reasons I love cats,

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and street cats specifically so much because they have a

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skill that I wish I had. That they could just

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tell if you're a kind Yeah, not that people aren't

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kind if they don't come to them, but they can

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just tell just by sniffing you.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: I like you, You're good, you're kind, You're going to take

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care of me, and I trust you. And that is

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an amazing gift.

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Speaker 1: It is, it is.

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Speaker 3: And I had gotten Matt in twenty countries on five

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continents to make this book. I've had that experience over

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and over and over again, and it was just a dream.

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This book was a dream to make, largely because not

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only because I got the put Tilly in it, but

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because I got to have cats sleeping on my lap,

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rubbing up against my legs, sniffing my fingers and just

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being with me and trusting me for the six months

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that it took for me to travel the world to

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make this book.

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Speaker 1: You know what a great gig. I mean, really, there's.

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Speaker 3: Worse plays to make a living arden those worst.

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Speaker 1: But the one thing I would say, and you have this,

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you do speak cat. Because it doesn't matter if you're

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in Peru, or you're in England or wherever. There is

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a language that cats do with you, right that they

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commit a kate. So can you give our loyal Oh

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behave folks a couple of tips on how to safely

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and politely approach a street cat.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely so, I'm proud. So after the introduction, there is

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Street Cats where I interview a woman of an amazing

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woman in Athens, nay Marini, who does cat tours. She

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takes care of the cats in this neighborhood called Ficio,

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which is right next to where the Acropolis is, and

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we talked about this exact topic. So what you wanted

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the main things and what's I'm six five, so I'm

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Speaker 1: Tall and oh i'm five to one. Oh wow, on

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short of it here today, wow six' five.

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Speaker 3: Wow so WHAT i need to do is to get

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even more so because of WHO i. Am you get

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down on their. Level i'm very. Imposing any human to a,

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cat it's going to be very. Imposing you get, down

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you crouch, down you talk in a lower, voice you

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just be be a, stiller quieter version of your normal. Self,

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okay and then, you like you, said you put a fing.

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that they can kind of sniff all my, fingers rub

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up against the back of my hand or or hopefully

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the palm that's the best when they get their cheek right,

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just leave it. There and that's the first. Interaction so

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you don't reach an arm. Out you do, That you

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let them make the first, move consenting to anything that

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comes after, that and then if they choose, you if

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they rub it against, you usually you've got them at

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that point because THEN i WHAT i immediately, do IF

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bench WHEREVER i, am and they will usually either lay

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Speaker 3: Months oh? Wow, okay, yeah twenty countries on five continents and, wow,

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wow those shoes must it's like The United nations of,

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have so many odors baked into, them and so cats

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like often lay on them or jump up and curl

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up on my. LAP a great story about. That i'm In, Lima,

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peru my favorite destination in the, world which is the

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book starts In, lima which my editor was, like shouldn't

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we start that the estambul that's what everybody thinks. About i'm, like, no, no,

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No it's all About lima for. Me SO i had

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a cat an orange baby sleep curled, up sleeping on

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my lap until in the rule number, one you don't

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move until they, move.

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Speaker 1: So you better practice kegles if you have to go

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to the. Bathroom that's exactly.

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Speaker 3: It, oh you, know there's a lot of squeezing and

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holding it and legs falling asleep fearing. Amputation i'm, LIKE

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i can't feel, anything but this cutie is sleeping And

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i'm not. Moving BUT i actually HAD i was on a,

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curb SO i was not on a. Bench so they

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fell asleep really. Fast SO i pizzappealed under the cat

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on my lap and moved it to the, grass still.

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ASLEEP i managed to exchange a. Cat BEFORE i could

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get my backpack and stand. Up the cat woke, up

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got back on my, lap curled right back. Up i'm,

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RIGHT i GUESS i live here. NOW i. GUESS i

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guess part of me is still sitting on that curb

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in Lib. A, Purt, well you've.

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Speaker 1: Said in the book that In lima it's called The

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Holy trinity of cat. Park talk to, me what is?

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Speaker 3: That what was? That that's WHAT i call it because

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there's three, parks so one of the. Things so when

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you're In, istanbul when you're In. Greece so this is

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the world's first travel guide for cat. Lovers but when

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you're in certain places like those, two you just go.

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Outside there's you're gonna find cats. Everywhere but in some

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places Like, lima they're not just. Everywhere they're concentrated in three,

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lush green parks that are all next to each other

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In Mira flora's, neighborhood and so three of. THEM i

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just called it The Holy trinity because it was the

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most remarkable Place i've ever, been so much so that

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a year later to the, DAY i went back and

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took my wife BECAUSE i wanted her to experience, this

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and we had another four beautiful fall in The Southern,

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hemisphere days of cats on our. Lap and WHAT i

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write in the book is that it was Like, oprah

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like you get a, cat you get a, Cat you

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get a. Cat because, morning, noon and night in these,

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parks one out of every three people who was just

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hanging out on a bench eating some street, food sitting

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on a, curb had a cat on their. Lap it

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wasn't just. Me there were. Cats they were just they're.

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Loved we've seen them, fed given medicine in these parks

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and they're all adoptable to their signs up all From.

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Speaker 1: OH i love. THAT i, mean it's sure better than

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the monkeys that are throwing. There you know what at

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you flash. Park, hey, everybody we're speaking With Jeff. Bogo

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he is the author of a BOOK i want you

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to get your paws. On it is Called Street cats

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And where to Find. Them we're going to dive in

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a little bit more after we take this quick, break

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so sit. Per we'll be right.

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Speaker 3: Back time for a walk on the red. Carpet of,

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Speaker 2: Behave we'll be backing up lash right after these.

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Speaker 3: Com, Everybody I'm Jeff forwood's host Of Wildlife, nation brought

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the letterbox that is now back To oh behave here's Hard.

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Speaker 1: Welcome go back to the old behaved show on Pet Life.

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Radio i'm your, Host Arden. MOORE i got a cat,

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man a real cool cat, man and his name Is Jeff.

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Bogel he's an, author he's a photographer and he digs.

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Cats and he was talking about one of his favorite

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places is In. Peru but let's dive in a little.

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Bit we want get people to be really ready to

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get their pause on your Book Street cats and where

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to find. Them so tell us a little bit about

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how the book is. Structured we talked a little bit About,

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peru but hit us with a couple other. Things because

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you're doing cat, museums you're doing other.

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Speaker 3: Stuff, yeah and so thank. You so the book starts

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with an, introduction a little bit about me and my

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journey BECAUSE i did not grow up with. Cats they

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came to me later in, life which is why the

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book's also dedicated to my ex, wife because she when

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we were in a young late early, twenties she brought

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a cat into my, life WHICH i won't spoil. It

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BUT i throw a hissy fit When i'm a younger, man,

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okay BECAUSE i thought they would ruin my life and

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they didn't spoil. Over cats didn't ruin my.

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Speaker 1: Life, Everyone, yes after they're making your.

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Speaker 3: LIFE i made my maid do every, day and THEN

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i go into staying, safe and then we get right into.

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Destinations there's twenty destinations and starting With lima and going

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Through taiwan And marrakesh And, cairo and in each its

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structured that there are photos in each, location a, story

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a full sensory story about what it's, like what it

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was like to be. There so it's it's first. Person

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it's me, there eating the local, food talking to, people

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being with the, cats seeing some famous things and talking about.

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That a little bit of the history where it's applicable

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where you need to know about certain things like In rome,

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specifically and then a little bit of travel intel so

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that this book sits at the intersection of coffee table

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book that if you just want to sit at home

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travel the world from the comfort of your sofa with

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your kiddies on your, lap you can do that because

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you'll feel IF i did my job right when you

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read the stories and look at the. Photos you'll feel

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like you're there with. Me but it's also small enough

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that it can throw it in your. Backpack and it's

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an old. Cat it's an old fashioned travel. Guide it'll

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tell you where to, stay where to, eat what airport

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do you use to get close to the cats? Quickly

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so you're The Rick steves of the. CAT i will

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take that poll quote and uh and use that. Forever thank.

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Speaker 1: You we talked a little bit About. Perue you mentioned

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something About. Rome you said you gotta be a little.

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CAREFUL i mean you're not given the new popa cat

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right as a.

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Speaker 3: Hello, no you would probably like.

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Speaker 1: One oh used For chicago like.

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Speaker 3: Me it's so exactly So, no In, rome it's a

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specific there's specific. Area so again it's one of those

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places where you're not just gonna step foot Into rome

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and see cats. Everywhere you go to certain sections and

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it's there's a cat sanctuary In rome THAT i focus

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on a lot because it is like the gold standard

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of cat Cat it's been there for decades and it takes.

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Care it's Called Tory. Argentina it is on the site

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the archaeological site Where Julius caesar was assassinated and cats

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live there In rome around. That but after the, DESTINATIONS

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i dive into cat cafe. CULTURE i traveled the. WORLD

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i highlight some of my favorite cat cafes and some

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of the ones that are doing interesting.

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Speaker 1: Things oh that's a real diplomatic way of saying. Yok but,

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seriously cat cafes and cats, THEMSELVES i think there are really.

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Hot right, Now i'm, Popular but what's your take on

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give us a couple of just the positions of cat

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cafes that you've been.

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Speaker 3: To so ca cafe culture In america is vastly different

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from how it exists around the. World, so, okay we

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have sort of draconian food and beverage.

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Speaker 1: Laws who doesn't want a cat hair in your? Coffee come?

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Speaker 3: EXACTLY i, mean we live with cats all around, us

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and they climb all over our kitchen islands and tables

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and like. Whatever but In america cat cafes it's. Separated

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so there's a cat area smalled off from a cafe,

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area and they're usually like a hefty entrance, fee which

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can be. FAIR a lot of times that does go

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to benefit the, cats but a lot of times you're

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not sure if like an hour seems awfully expensive to

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a cat out with a hangout with some cats and

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around the world that's not like. That some of them,

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ease but some of them are proper. Restaurants you just

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hanging out have been real, moot real, food great.

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Speaker 1: Food give me an, Example give me a.

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Speaker 3: Place there's a place In, tokyo my favorite tach Cat.

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I it's it's probably doing a disservice to call it

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a cat. Cafe it is a restaurant with cats and

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it is. Stunning it's in the book and the way it's.

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Structured it is An italian man and A japanese woman

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met In, australia fell in, love started a, restaurant started a,

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restaurant and they love. Cats and the cats that live

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there are all, adoptable no. Fees he you come, in you.

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Get it's such a part of the fabric of the.

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Community in The yanoka neighborhood In. Tokyo He, massimo the,

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owner will meet with. You he will learn about your,

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lifestyle what your life's. Like and after you come in

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and have a few, meals if you if there's a

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cat that you're bonding, with you can take that cat

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home for like a little trial and if it works,

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out there's no adoption fee that he is just placing

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cats next nine in a very curated. Experience and the

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food is off the charts. Amazing so it. Is and you're,

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there you're you're, eating and there's a cat on your.

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Lap you're, eating and there's a cat by your, feet

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and you want to take a break in between courses

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and get down on the ground and pet cats. Do

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so it's you, know it's just like living at. Home

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we all cook and we pet cats and then we

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go right to. Eating there's no there's no delineation between

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those two.

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Speaker 1: Experiences, WELL i KNOW i might be, wrong BUT i

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Thought japan was kind of the leader in cat cafe.

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Culture is that?

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Speaker 3: Right it's where it really. Exploded the origin started In Taipei, City,

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taiwan Oh okay in nineteen ninety, eight and the original cat,

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cafe the one that started it, all is still. There

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and we went and we went to. It and in Tai,

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taipei WHICH i fell in love. WITH i was never there,

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before absolutely fell in love with. It there are at

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least two dozen cafes in this one. City So japan

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took it and made it world. Famous But taipei is

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it's still. Thriving AND i developed in the book a

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twenty four hour cafe. Circuit, okay what does that?

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Speaker 1: Mean what does that?

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Speaker 3: Mean it means you wake up in the, morning if

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you want to do it in, order you wake up

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in the, morning and there's a place to go and

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get your morning coffee in a pastry and then you'd move.

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On and they're all connected by great public transportation. Links

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you move on to a little bit of a brunch

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and then a late lunch, spot and then a dinner,

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spot and then a late night cafe coffee in a

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place Called Fufu, cafe which has almost every breed of

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cat you can, imagine plus rescued street cats there and

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that has a tiny entrance. Fee it's on the second

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floor above a night, market and it is so chill

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and relaxing while you're hanging out with licois And egyptian

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cats and the grumpy. Cats there's a photo in the.

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Book and oh and they feed them all together in

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a line at eight o'clock every.

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Speaker 1: Night, well you, know cats wear invisible, watches they DON'T i?

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Speaker 3: Know, yeah are all this cat figgins who's? Ten the

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minute it turns like four point. Fifty she is on

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the kitchen island and she won't make a sound unless

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we go anywhere. Near so we sort of avoid the

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kitchen because if you even show, yourself she's, like, Mean

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i'll just want to let you. Know it's getting really

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close to. Five just want to let you. Know but

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they feed everybody at, eight and there's two really fuzzy

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grumpies that they actually put bibs, on and they line

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00:23:34,759 --> 00:23:37,440
up all the balls in a row and they all

470
00:23:37,519 --> 00:23:39,799
come and they all know their exact bowl to come.

471
00:23:39,839 --> 00:23:44,880
To it is one it's. Adorable two it's, hilarious absolutely.

472
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,680
Hilarious so you can spend an entire day going the

473
00:23:47,759 --> 00:23:52,119
cat cafes eat'm, in eating your way through type i'm,

474
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,559
in i'm in hanging out with all different kinds of.

475
00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: Cats you also talk about some cat, museums and some

476
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,119
museums can be a big yaw and, some like the,

477
00:24:01,279 --> 00:24:04,400
museums are pretty jazzed. Up so do you have a

478
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,640
cat museum that you really thought WAS i?

479
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,599
Speaker 3: DO i love The cat And cabinet In, amsterdam WHICH

480
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,839
i adore because it, talks it walks you. Through first of,

481
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,119
all it's a beautiful building like most buildings In. Amsterdam so,

482
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,759
yeah the last section of the BOOK i touch on, festivals,

483
00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:22,240
museums some hotel, cats just a little bit of a

484
00:24:22,279 --> 00:24:25,799
hodgepodge to end the book with the ways we celebrate

485
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,480
and have cats in our lives and can interact with.

486
00:24:28,519 --> 00:24:32,400
Them but The cat And cabinet has actual cats that

487
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,720
live there, Too so it's you get cats and, advertisements,

488
00:24:36,279 --> 00:24:41,880
cats statues and, sculptures, artworks photos of, cats with picassa

489
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,480
with famous people who own as in there all in

490
00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:49,480
this beautiful old home right on a, canal all, right

491
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,839
everything's on a canal At. Amsterdam and then when you

492
00:24:51,839 --> 00:24:56,799
go out in the, backyard there's giant billboards of cats

493
00:24:56,839 --> 00:25:00,200
like in, films film, posts and there's two cats that

494
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,680
live out, there and you can there's, benches you can

495
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,039
just sit down and be with a. CAT i had

496
00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:08,799
one on my lap of, course everywhere while looking at

497
00:25:08,839 --> 00:25:11,440
all of this. Artwork so that is well worth the entrance,

498
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,279
fee is Not it is not a snooze at, all

499
00:25:14,599 --> 00:25:17,519
and it's it's right in the heart Of. Amsterdam, well my.

500
00:25:17,519 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: Favorite nonfiction author Is Ernest hemingway and That Hemingway house

501
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,119
And Key west and all that and he was a

502
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,599
writer THAT i. Loved i'm a former newspaper, reporter SO

503
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,160
i write tight and it's so fun because they'll SAY

504
00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:32,920
i shot the gun and it's like he would just

505
00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:36,480
he his wore books. Everything it was always, short succinct.

506
00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:42,880
Period ye dude loved cats and he had the. Polydactyls

507
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,240
so have you ever been to The Hemingway?

508
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 3: House and it's in the, book but it is not

509
00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:50,279
a place That i've been to. Yet i'm. Hoping So

510
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,599
i'm doing something else fun next year That i'm hoping to.

511
00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:55,319
Repeat so you gotta let the.

512
00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: Cat out of the. Bag you're on the number one

513
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,119
podcast of.

514
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 3: PETS i absolutely. Am So i've written the world's first

515
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,839
travel guidebook for cat. Lovers i'm also next year partnering

516
00:26:04,839 --> 00:26:08,680
With Celebrity cruises to host the world's first street cat.

517
00:26:08,759 --> 00:26:14,960
Cruise What Yes. Right it Leaves october nineteenth of next,

518
00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:18,880
year twenty twenty. Six it starts In. Italy we're going To.

519
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,319
Croatia we're going To, Montenegro malta And greece eleven days

520
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,039
and single port is in the book Where i'm going

521
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,480
to be leading guided cat tours cat doing some cat

522
00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:34,079
photography with people and then have lots of fun surprises

523
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,000
planned on. Board i'm bringing that up talking about Q

524
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,519
west because my plan for the Second Street Cat, cruise

525
00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:42,519
if this all works and people are booking, it it's gonna.

526
00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:44,759
Happen it's gonna be. Amazing i'm going to give people

527
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:48,440
the most, memorable cat hair filled vacation of their. Lives

528
00:26:49,519 --> 00:26:53,039
my second CRUISE i want to do is that will

529
00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:56,680
Touch Key west And New orleans And caribbean islands that have,

530
00:26:56,759 --> 00:26:59,960
cats Because New orleans is in the book And West

531
00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:01,960
hemingway houses in the. Book So i'd like to do

532
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,839
like a private tour of that with. People so HOPEFULLY

533
00:27:05,079 --> 00:27:07,880
i prove the. CONCEPT i get enough interest in people

534
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,960
who love to, travel who love, cats and want to combine.

535
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,839
Those SO i write a lot about the cruise, industry

536
00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:16,400
So i'm, like why not pull these. TWO i know

537
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,359
a lot about, Cruising i'm good at. IT i can

538
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,039
help people through. It i've got we've got incredible group.

539
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,960
Rates celebrity is really excited about, this and that's all

540
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,519
At streetcatcruises Dot.

541
00:27:27,559 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: Com oh thank You streetcatcruises Dot. Com, right people find

542
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:32,720
out about.

543
00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 3: You jeff Bowlol so there's links off of, there BUT

544
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,039
i don't have you, know the one thing THAT i

545
00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:41,440
didn't do is sort of set up a cat. Moniker

546
00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:43,960
i'm Not jeff the cat guy or anything like. That

547
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,160
My instagram and everything on social. MEDIA i, mean you

548
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,319
could google. ME i told my wife when we met

549
00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:51,400
six years. Ago i'm a pretty Good. Google i'm an

550
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,400
even Better google now because there's a lot more cat

551
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,440
photos with me associated with my. Name but it's just OWT.

552
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,559
K that's the four less that's My, instagram which is

553
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,519
covered in cat. Stuff it's it's the acronym of my

554
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,160
old dad. BLOG i, was remember like the mommy.

555
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: Blogger yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah WELL i was.

556
00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: One of the first dad bloggers and that stands for

557
00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:14,920
out with The, kids which was the name of my.

558
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,799
Blog so ow T k is me On instagram And

559
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,759
twitter and everything. Else but, yeah you'll go in my

560
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,920
name or the name of the, Book you'll you'll find

561
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,920
me pretty. Easily you.

562
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: Know WHAT i love is the passion that you feel

563
00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:31,680
when you hear you and see. You And i'm telling, you,

564
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,279
man you found a, niche don't you.

565
00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: Think so we are talking to the publisher AND i

566
00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:39,640
are already telling. You this book came out just in

567
00:28:39,799 --> 00:28:43,359
The august of this, year so as we talked about

568
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,599
two months, ago we're already. Talking it's doing very. Well

569
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,119
people love. It people the response WHEN i get in

570
00:28:49,119 --> 00:28:52,240
front of, people AND i Am i'm very enthusiastic about

571
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,079
the THINGS i. Love and there's few THINGS i love

572
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,319
more than traveling with wondrous eyes and a curious mind

573
00:28:58,359 --> 00:29:00,720
and a kind. Heart that sounds like a. Cat it.

574
00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:05,240
IS i am like a cat with one massive, exception

575
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:06,799
which when you asked me the question that you ask

576
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,000
everybody at the, END i will tell, You, ok, people

577
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,400
one exception Why i'm not like. It but, yeah people

578
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,279
are like. That we're already. Talking we're having early discussions

579
00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:17,759
about book number. Two so, well you AND i have

580
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,839
something in. COMMON i have worked and published a number

581
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,599
of books with story that got bought. UP i Has

582
00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:26,799
shet and that's the. Publisher so we have we're kind

583
00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:27,440
of book in law.

584
00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:30,759
Speaker 1: Mates you are book. Mates that's, cool, Right, hey, everybody

585
00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:33,240
we're speaking Of Jeff. Bogo he is the author Of

586
00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:35,559
Street cats And where To Find. THEM i love this,

587
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,960
dude AND i hope you guys you're looking for holiday

588
00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:44,119
items gifts to give to your favorite cat. Person please

589
00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:47,839
check out this book and book that cruise for twenty twenty,

590
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,640
six and he talked about with. CELEBRITY i know we're

591
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,759
going to have you. Back we should do something when

592
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:55,079
you're on the cruise. Ship we can make at. Work

593
00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:56,079
you know, that, Right it's so.

594
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: Fun, yeah we could do live live From dubrevnick or

595
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,799
live from For montenegro surrounded by. Cats that would be so.

596
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:03,920
Great so you know the.

597
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: DEAL i like to ask my, guests what's a superpower

598
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,680
or something about cats you wish that you have and?

599
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: Why this is WHAT i was alluding. To So i'm

600
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,799
a lot like a cat in a lot of. Ways

601
00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:16,319
once ONCE i hear you earn my, trust you have

602
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,440
it for a. Lifetime the one Thing i'm not like,

603
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,720
CATS i have a really hard, time as you could

604
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,759
probably tell by my, excitable NonStop talking of just stopping

605
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,960
and like. Napping so a cat. Nap IF i could

606
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,000
peacefully shut my brain down and lay in the sun

607
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,599
FOR i don't, know a good six hours every day

608
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,680
and lick myself, clean that would be.

609
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: Amazing, well you're no, Napper you're no cat. Napper you

610
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:48,440
are champion cats EVERYWHERE i Am you've been a delight

611
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,720
everybody all. Night check Out Jeff bogo and his Book

612
00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:54,279
Street cats And where To Find. THEM i also want

613
00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:56,880
to give a shout out to my, Producer Mark. Winter

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he is the producer of Pet Life. Radio humbly. Behave

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