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Speaker 3: John, how the heck are you, buddy? Coming?
Speaker 4: Been doing great? It is great to be on with
you and looking forward to a big game tonight.
Speaker 3: It's a big one, all right.
Speaker 1: The BYU Cougar's four game losing streak right now. I
don't know if that's a good thing or a bad
thing for the Baylor Bears as they welcome into BWAYU Cougars.
It could be a wounded cougar that you get that's
a little bit down fraud and not believing him, or
you could get a ferocious cougar that's looking to get
back on the right track.
Speaker 4: I know you try to figure out those things, and
I'm usually not right when I try to get and
it could be either one of those. All we know
is just a really good team and it's going to
be a tough challenge for Baylor tonight. Glad we've got
them here in Foster Pavilion in Waco. I think it's
going to be a great crowd. It should be a
great atmosphere for this game.
Speaker 1: Give us the identity of the Baylor Bears basketball team
lost a lot of tout, a lot of experience in
the off season and had to rebuild essentially from scratch.
Who has this team become. What is their identity?
Speaker 4: I think still a work in progress, and unfortunately it's
taken this long, you know, to try to determine that identity.
But everybody on the team is new. Nobody didn't return
one point one minute played from anybody last year, which
is an unusual situation but kind of a sign of
the times these days. But really talented players and it
was just a matter of getting them all playing together
and get the chemistry right. The best teams that coach
Drew has had here, you know, have great chemistry, but
he's never been through a coaching situation and a recruiting
season like this one with all new players. So I
would say the identity, to answer your question, is what
they'd like it to be. Is a team that plays
really good defense and rebounds well, and we've got offense.
We've got good scores on this team. So it's just
a matter of you know, playing that out and doing it.
And you know, the tough part, Ben is finding your
way against really good teams every night. You know, you
get into league play and you're playing Iowa State and
you're playing Houston, you're playing BYU, you know, and Texas
Tech and we haven't played Arizona yet, we played Kansas
and it's just tough to find your way when it's
a tough game and tough opponent every night.
Speaker 1: It's a gauntlet. I've said it before, I'll say it again.
The SEC is always talking about how their football schedules
are gauntlet, not so much. The Big twelve basketball schedule
was the true gauntlet of collegiate athletics.
Speaker 4: I agree, Yeah, I agree, And you know that's not
you know, that's not poopoo and what the SEC does either.
But just you look at this league from top to bottom,
and it's just tough every night. You know, sometimes you
might look at your schedule at the start of the
season and say, well, there's a win, and there's a win,
and we got a good chance to get this one
with you know, this league, and especially with this Baylor
team this year, none of those you can pencil him
because it's going to be tough each and every night.
Speaker 1: Give us a little breakdown on the personnel stand standpoint.
Who is it that Baylor relies on to lead this
team to get buckets into play great defense.
Speaker 4: Well, we'd like to say we have a big three
like the YU does, but I wouldn't say that they
are as proficient as the big three for the Cougars.
But Cameron Carr is our leading leading scorer on the year.
He's red shirt sophomore transferred to Baylor from Tennessee. He's
the closest we have to returning player because he was
here last year fitting out to gain his eligibility, but
he didn't play at all for Baylor last year. So
Cam Carr is the six to five swing man, very
athletic t day. Yesifu is a freshman six', five kind
of a three player and is really. Good you, KNOW
i was talking To Greg rubel about all the great
freshmen in this, league and certainly Aj De bonsa is
one of those. Today, YESIFU i think is in that
conversation as, well and he's been really, good really consistent
as a true. Freshman and then our point guard Is
Obi agbam transfer From wyoming AND byu fans may know
him from His wyoming, days and he's come in and
he's done really really. Well he scored in and getting
better every. GAME i think he scored in double digits
now for five games in a. Row so that would
be the big. Three there's not a lot of. Depth
we've got a big managed to sixty nine post player
transfer From rice who holds his own in the. Post
and you'll see seven guys eight at the most in
the rotation For baylor in this.
Speaker 1: Game what is it that the coaching staff and the
players have said about by you ere in the lead
up to this?
Speaker 3: GAME a little scatter report on?
Speaker 4: Them, yeah very talented. Obviously and the big three that
you know that everybody knows about would be a j
And Richie saunders and Then Rob, wright who we know really.
Well and it'd be interesting to see the reaction That
rob gets here In waycot. Tonight but you, KNOW i
really Like rob a. LOT i hate that he's not
here in A baylor. Uniform had a great freshman year
last year and then decided to you, know test the
waters and ended up in a good spot AT. Byu
So Coach drew's message to the fans here and everybody
was we can't cross the. Line you. Know he wants
it to be a great home court, advantage which we
get everywhere we. Go you know that everywhere you go
in this, league it's a tough place to, play and
so he wants that here For baylor to have it
make it a really tough place to. Play but you
just can't cross the. Line AND i hate that that
happens against you. Guys you know some, PLACES i don't
think that will. HAPPEN i Think rob may be booed lustily,
tonight but he's probably ready for that and might fire him,
up who. Knows but that's that's kind of what our
coaches have talked, about how GOOD byu is with that
big three and tough to. Stop And baylor's got to
play probably its best game of the year to get
a win.
Speaker 1: Tonight last few, games you, know You've baylor's won two
out of the last, four lost To, cincinnati who wins
Over West virginia And. Colorado but this most recent loss
of close one At iowa staged some people would, say,
hey this seems trending in the right direction over the
last three Games Iowa, state it's a legitimate.
Speaker 3: Team, Yeah, NO i think you're.
Speaker 4: RIGHT i would say that again with a whole new
team still sort of finding their, way you, know and
determining roles and and just getting that. CHEMISTRY wi, RIGHT
i think it's kind of coming. Together it was a
big win Over West virginia on the. Road that's a
tough place to. Play they had the longest home winning
streak of any school in The Big, twelve third longest
in the nation When baylor went up There saturday a
week ago and then came home and Beat, colorado led
by twenty four at, halftime and won that game by twenty,
One so that was a good win. Also and then
went To ames this Past, saturday AND i always, say
you know how good they are on their home floor
and how good their fans. Are And baylor played right with,
them toe to toe for about thirty minutes of that,
game and Then Iowa state started extending that. Lead they
got it up to as much as FIFTEEN i think
was their biggest, lead and at the End baylor was
chipping away and finished the game on eleven zero run
to make the final look really. Good you, know lost
by three but actually it was more of a you,
know seven or eight or nine point. Game But baylor
didn't give up, either you, know played till the final,
buzzer and that was, encouraging you, know even in a
lot to, me that extended what The bears had done
in the two previous games with. Wins SO i Think
baylor is definitely trending. Up you, know three and eight
in conference play does not sound, good and it's not
good right, now but there's plenty of really good opportunities
ahead for this team to get back in the conversation
to maybe playing To march.
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Ken palm here and it's obvious This baylor team they
can get, buckets, Right they can score with the best of. Them,
defensively it looks that, they're you, know kind of an
average and maybe above average defensive. Team what is it
that they do so well offensively right?
Speaker 4: NOW i think just they can score from every. Position
everybody that goes out there can, score and offenses is
never the, problem or it hasn't been the problem with
this team this. Year it's been on the defensive end
That baylor has just given up way too many easy
buckets and way too many. Points but, offensively everybody can
contribute and that's a good. Thing so you go into the. Game,
really and my broadcast partner Is Pat, nunley he, said
scoring is not the. Issue it's a matter of getting
stops and stopping the other team from. Scoring and you
guys kind of saw that with the game At Oklahoma
state when they put ninety nine points on the. Board
AND i wouldn't Say baylor could score that many. Tonight
but it's just a matter of playing defense close to
the level That baylor can. Play, Offensively, yeah it's.
Speaker 1: It's, intriguing, right there's b yu basketball. Team they can
also score. Well their defense has been a subject Of
it's been a sore spot for Many byufens and even
they're head, coach you, know They Kay why and his
press conferences has called it like, awful, terrible you, know
just a. TROCH i, mean he's he's got a lot
of adjectives for this THIS byu defense right. Now AND
i don't know If Coach drew or the rest of
the staff or anybody they chad to discussed some of
the weaknesses B yu has experienced, Defensively, no but not
from the.
Speaker 4: Coaches but it's kind of been tossed around a little.
BIT i, mean, Like i'm Sure Coach young really laid
down the law after that lost To Oklahoma. State and
look at the next. Game it was better you lost
to The university Of, houston but gave up seventy seven
points to The, Cougars SO i think the Other. Cougars
SO i think that has been the issue in that
four game losing streak FOR. Byu but also look at
who those games have come against those four. Losses, again
it's three teams that are in the top ten in
the nation now and Then Oklahoma state team that was
red hot that night In. Steelwater so, yes the Defense
i'm sure has been the issue through that. Stretch but
it's all, perspective, RIGHT I, mean what might be good
defense for us in a game might not be perceived
as good defense for you. Guys BUT i tell you,
what that is the. KEY i think the team that
you can look at this game right now, tonight the
team that plays the better defense is probably going to
come out on top this.
Speaker 1: Sevening how many bids do you think The big twelve
is going to get in THE NC Doublea tournament the
G i'm sitting there looking at the, standings AND i
do Think bahler's trending in the right.
Speaker 3: DIRECTION i think they.
Speaker 1: Can they could find themselves in THE Nc DOUBLE A
tournament having Beaten colorado And West, virginia two teams that
sit above them in The big twelve. Standings how many
teams do you Think big FuG gets in this?
Speaker 4: YEAR i Saw Joe lonardi this morning and he was
asked that exact, question and he had. Seven he's got
seven in right, now and THAT i think that's that's
a legit, seven and that's a solid. Seven at one
point he did have he said he had earlier in
the year he had Ten big twelve. Schools this doesn't sound,
right BUT i think he said they had Ten big
twelve schools in his top. Sixteen itch. DIDN'T i, mean
that sounds almost, unfathomable But i'm pretty sure that's what he.
Said that's not the case, now but seven very solidly,
in and he talked AND ucf would be kind of
the seventh, one you, know right, there but they're very solidly.
In and then he said there was a drop after
that to the next possible. Teams baylor right now is
kind of the next four. Out but even at, that
given a three to eight conference, record that shows the
strength of the league right. There baylor is even mentioned
in the, conversation and The bears can get. THERE i
think they've got a lot of work to. Do but,
again the beauty of the beauty and the agony of
this league is you got a lot of opportunities to help,
yourself but they're, tough tough games against, tough tough. Opponents
so the Way baylor's looking at it right, now sitting
at three and, eight looking up at trying to get
to a thirteenth straight, postseason is take advantage of these,
opportunities you, know get a signature, win then build upon,
that and this tonight would certainly be one of. Those
it would certainly go a long way in Helping baylor
if they could get a win tonight over a really
really GOOD byu.
Speaker 1: Team, yeah and your final In baylor's final eight games,
here you got a bit a little bit Of jekyll And.
Hyde you have top end and you have bottom. End
you GOT, byu you Got, louisville non, Conference Kansas state
is going to. State both Bottom theuters right now at
The big. Twelve no offense to, them they just haven't
been able to. Win arizona obviously very good, TEAM ucf
a good, Team houston huge good. Team but you finish
off With utah if you. Not If baylor knocks OFF
byu and and maybe takes that momentum into The louisville
game and gets it up, there this is looking very
much like a big AN ncaa tournament.
Speaker 4: Team, yeah if you know that's a big if, though
to try to string wins together against these tough. Teams
but this is a big week in that regards with
by you hear and Then louisville at a neutral site On,
saturday playing At Dicky's arena In Fort. Worth but but you're,
right and that's what our coaches are telling our. Guys you, Know,
hey the path is, There there is a possible path
to get to THE ncaa. Tournament but you're gonna have,
to you, know keep playing like you are and even
better and string some wins.
Speaker 1: Together what's the average losing scoring margin for This Baylor bears?
Speaker 3: Team do you know that?
Speaker 1: STAT i, Know i'm asking you to pull a that
out of your hat here that you, know because they
can be an, indicative, right stat of like just who
This Baylor bear team is this.
Speaker 4: SEASON i don't have that in front of, me but
just off the top of my, head you, Know baylor
hadn't been blown out much at all a couple of,
times but not really blown out a, Lot SO i
would say it might be around ten, points you, know
the average margin of. Defeat so that's not, great but
you know it could be a lot, worse BUT i
would that would be my guess right now that that's
probably about what it.
Speaker 1: Is, yeah and then when they are winning, games what's
the do you? Do you could you approximate for me
what the average winning scoring margin?
Speaker 4: Is not THAT i mean, close although it Be colorado
by twenty, ONE i, think so that's that's a big
win win in conference.
Speaker 1: Play beat Through West virginia by, ten, right, Yeap Oklahoma
state by. FIFTEEN i mean those all three great wins
in my opinion because of the margin of, victory and
two of them are on the, road.
Speaker 4: Yep and two of those were on the. Road, yeah
we wouldn't and we hadn't won a home conference game
until we Beat colorado here a week. Ago so you,
know you talk about home court advantage and you want
it to be, great but it Really baylor hasn't played to,
that or the results would Say taylor hadn't played to.
It but part of that is who's played. Here Texas
tech played, Here houston played. HERE i Was state played.
Here that was Our big twelve, opener and we PLAYED
i Was state twice. Now so, yes those are three
big wins and pretty good margins in, those but, gosh
the margin is just so thin in this. LEAGUE i
would take a one point win any, time take it
all in this, league, absolutely, Yeah, absolutely a win is a,
win no matter what the margin.
Speaker 3: Is john obviously by us slagh favorite in this.
Speaker 1: Game it's been a competitive series between bou And baylor
over the, years over its. History how do you see
this game playing?
Speaker 4: OUT i would hope it's a close. Game you, know
that Means baylor's playing well if it is close going
down the. Stretch AND i, think LIKE i said, earlier
the defense For baylor has been a. Key it's been
much better in recent. Games two losses and one close,
LOSS i mean two wins and one close loss To Iowa,
State AND i think probably the defense has got to
be the focal point FOR byu coming into this game tonight,
also AND i would look at it AS byu as
a wounded animal coming in coming off four straight. Losses
SO i think they're going to be, really really. Tough
i'm sure with those guys there is no lack of.
Confidence i'm Sure Coach young has has kept their chins
up and no lack of confidence, whatsoever even though they
have lost four. Straight and again put an asterisk by
that by who the ones you played in that four
game using. Streak SO i think it's going to be really.
Tough hoping is close at the, end and you know
it would expect anything. Less right in The big. Twelve
we've had great games At Kansas arizona game was a
great game last, night and maybe we can put on
a show similar to that this.
Speaker 1: Evening John, Morris ladies and, Gentlemen voice of The Baylor.
Bears best way to support to you what you?
Speaker 3: Do how you?
Speaker 5: Doing?
Speaker 1: John for our listeners that are going to be maybe
heading out To. Waco there may be out there they
want to tune into your.
Speaker 4: Call, yeah well we're. ON i think we're On SERIES
xm three eighty. Tonight fintech sportsfan dot com is the
website and we're on tune in also so And Baylor
bears Dot com is our. Website SO i appreciate. THAT
i don't know why anybody listened to me Over Greg,
ruvel but that's that's where you can find.
Speaker 1: Us, Look, John i'm the TYPE i like to consume the,
uh the opposite spectrums in all my content at, sports,
politics socio.
Speaker 3: CULTURE i.
Speaker 1: NEED i need all of it to create a balanced
in her self uh and inner truths Like i'd like
to hear both sides of the of the of the,
story if you.
Speaker 3: Will SO i invite everyone to do AS i.
Speaker 5: Do.
Speaker 1: Uh it's one of the only things THAT i tell
people that do AS i, do BECAUSE i definitely fall short.
Speaker 3: In a number of. One BUT i think that's actually
a VIRTUE i.
Speaker 6: Have.
Speaker 3: John we salute, you we.
Speaker 1: Appreciate, you uh and uh not that you need a
good look on your call and have a great evening
call in.
Speaker 3: This, Game.
Speaker 4: Benn, sure appreciate. It great to be on with, you
AND i really appreciate the rivalry that we got going
Between baylor AND. Byu and this is the next chapter
of kemn f. Tonight.
Speaker 3: YEAH i love the.
Speaker 1: RIVALRY i love the the uh, uh the commonalities between
the two fan. BASES i love and appreciate it in
so many. Ways so shout out to you and you
and the fan base out there In. Waco much love
to you and and the fans of The Baylor.
Speaker 4: Bears thank you very, Much, ben thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: On there you, go That's John.
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Speaker 1: Hotline welcome in FORMER byu Bucket, getter the six foot,
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welcome in At DeMarcus harrison to the, Show.
Speaker 3: Tomarcus how are, you?
Speaker 5: Buddy i'm doing good and how are you? Doing?
Speaker 1: Man doing fantastic, man great to catch up with. You
great to reconnect with. You To, marcus give us an. Update,
man it's been a. Minute it's been a while since you,
know you've you, know been a part of. Cougarnation give
us a little update on, family on.
Speaker 3: Work how's everything going in your.
Speaker 5: World it's been going. Okay been done playing since twenty
twenty and then kind of ventured into. Sales But I'm
i'm a part of the the job struggle is trying
to find a new job going on right now without
like the layouts and everything like, that and just the.
Economy So i'm just playing that, game trying to find
a new place to. Land but the family is. Good
everyone's doing. Good, yeah, man the just just living. Life.
Speaker 1: Well give us an update on the on the kind
of the basketball trajectory that you.
Speaker 3: HAD i, know you you let B, yu you ended
up At, clemson bald out.
Speaker 1: There uh then then take us through maybe the professional
process that you went.
Speaker 5: To Uh, so, YEAH i finished At clemson around twenty.
Fifteen uh then ACTUALLY i came out here AND i
did a couple of like workouts with The. Jazz uh
that didn't go through AND i went up ended up
going to play. Overseas uh started off In, Canada i'm
in THE, nba played, there and then the next YEAR
i went To. EUROPE i played In. Estonia uh played
there for one, year made it to the finals that,
year and then uh, WELL i went To hungry next
and played In hungary and WHEN covid hit the last
season like kind of into early that, year and THEN
i just decided to shut it down after.
Speaker 1: That SO i, mean look that the overseas, game it
could be. Fun it can be a great, experience right
and riching, traveling experiencing different, countries maybe learning different, languages
eating different types of, food et.
Speaker 3: Cetera but it can also be a.
Speaker 1: Grind how would you describe the overseas professional basketball?
Speaker 5: WORLD i, mean definitely. Ground you're not flying in airplanes.
Anymore you're taking long bus rots like the high school.
Days uh, yeah it's all the. GLAMOR i feel like that,
grammar that glamour is going From DIVISION i. Basketball when
you go, overseas some new, Awakening like you're basically starting
over to make your career grow. Again so just starting
for square, one proving yourself all over. Again but the
money's not the.
Speaker 1: Same so now it's it's pretty crazy to kind of
see the inverse of like, NOW i, mean, look college
basketball is professional, basketball and a lot of these guys
are even bouncing back from THE G. League we see
a lot of earleague guys that would traditionally maybe stay
overseas and make money. There now they're coming to the
college basketball world because that's where the money.
Speaker 5: Is, yeah there's a lot of. Money it's a lot
of opportunity to like even it's the opportunity to raze or,
stock but as, well you can make a lot of
money while raising your stock to before you go back
to either THE G league or. Overseas it's just depending
on what you want to. Do but, like that's that's
it's a unique opportunity for them for.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, well, well where's the advice would you give
to these college basketball? Players you get out in front of,
them maybe you, know the the current team OF, byu
the current team of plans in the two places where you,
played and earlier this year we got C B yu
VERSUS Clems and there's only been a few maybe handful
occasions in which we've seen, that but you, know and
they've had some battles, there but what words of advice
would you give to the young up and coming generation
of college basketball players right.
Speaker 5: NOW i would, say definitely be smart with your. Money, yeah,
yeah definitely be smart with your. Money but also like
still use school as a two something that you can
transition out of and if you want to do, business
like with all the money you, make and it's probably
like one of the smartest things you can go. Into
but also stay in school as long as you can
if you're not really thinking about want to play professional
and then like stick to a school that you want
to be. At LIKE i know sometimes things don't work
out all the time that you want, to BUT i
went and transfer like every year just to chase. Money
Like i'll try to build a place or like a
school that you could go back to or someplace you
could go back to and be a part of and
just have that just a just a group of people
that you can count on or they love you and
they'll go to bat for. You so like that's WHAT
i give like young college players is like spinish at one,
School like stay multiple years at a school if you,
can and just give you, all like you're gonna make
money regardless playing in. College just be smart with it
and enjoy. It why you.
Speaker 1: CAN i think those are powerful words of, advice something
that's made maybe have been lost in this current generation right,
now where there's a lot of, transactionality you, know power
brokers and agents and parents maybe and family members getting
involved too in those, transactions and it can be hard
to maybe see the force through the, trees right the end,
goal starting with the end in. Mind SO i think
it's pretty powerful commentary that you, stated, like, hey don't
just don't be a mercenary bouncing around from school to.
Speaker 3: School it's an impair.
Speaker 1: Arrative it sounds like to build like a legacy and
and have some roots in a, community at a, school
within a uh maybe a population that cares for you
outside of maybe what you're doing on the.
Speaker 5: Court it helps a lot because you never, know like
where life's gonna take. You so like if you have
those you build those, connections those, relationships it only can
benefit you once you're done plan because everybody's not gonna
go pro and a lot of these guys are not
gonna want to go overseas and play either because the
money is definitely not gonna be the. Same. Yeah, Yeah
so like like you're gonna have to stay somewhere and
play for a little. Bit like if you just keep
jumping school after school at, school not really gonna make those. Connections,
yeah how do you how.
Speaker 3: Do you balance maybe the pt you're looking for or like.
Speaker 1: Uh and like that component of like building, roots maybe
developing within the, program getting an education within a. Program
because obviously there are some out there that is looking
for the, payday right and they're going to continue to
sequence up and find the best payday at the best.
School eventually that may that's not like THE i mean
that's like the one. Percent that's maybe the two, percent
maybe the five percent of college basketball where that can
continually sequence. Upward but you, know how do you balance
maybe someone that's looking for more playing time while also
setting down some roots and getting some roots in a good.
Speaker 3: EDUCATION i mean it's kind of.
Speaker 5: Hard it's kind of hard to do if you're trying
to be at the highest, level, yeah because sometimes they
always going to get like the best guys to come
in and. Play so like if you really seeking playing,
time you might have to go down to a lower
level of competition if you really want to get to
get the playing time that you, deserve but like it's
it's always still it's, Basketball like you're gonna have to
put the work in and you might have to earn those,
Minutes like minutes rarely are just given to somebody just.
Because so like if they're willing to like work and
work out and put the extra time in like being
a gym late, night like show the coaches like they
want the, minutes THEN i don't, understand, like, wow you'll
want to just transfer just to, Transfer like if you're
trying to do everything you can to be on the,
floor like you'll you'll get on the. Floor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah look.
Speaker 5: They already they already paying you, money investing in you.
Anyway LIKE i don't feel like they're just like throw
you to the side and not let you.
Speaker 1: Play yeah, Yeah and like you, know if you're in
a good, program getting coached, up getting, developed maybe the,
nutrition the strength and, conditioning you understand the, Scheme if
there's at least you, know stability of the coaching, staff you,
know why not ride with those guys and, see you,
know by your, sophomore, junior senior, year you, know if
you become a more prominent member of that, team a
more productive, Member, yeah.
Speaker 5: Like THAT'S i feel like that's the way to go about.
It like put time here and just don't jump every.
YEAR i understand like your later years and you just
like want to test the waters, out but like early,
years like you got to put some roofs, down learn
learn the college game for. One you got to learn
the game of. Basketball, uh just so you can't, contribute
but just don't get lost into chasing chasing the.
Speaker 1: Money former B yu bucket getter De Marcus harrison here
on Your UTAH Espn Ready network talking some some college
basketball in this. Segment, Well Marcus, DeMarcus i don't know
if we've ever gotten you on record about why you
ended up transferring FROM, byu And i'm the statute of
limitations is. Up now you know we don't have to
keep this clandestine secretive.
Speaker 3: Anymore. Uh you play the season at B. Yu you
did really.
Speaker 1: Well you appeared in all thirty games in your loan
season AT, byu and the the the potential was very.
BRIGHT i remember, TALKING i remember covering, you uh and
watching you there in A byu.
Speaker 3: Uniform it was it was.
Speaker 1: AWESOME i want to, SAY i remember the game where
where you went off Versus iona in THAT ncaa tournament
game where we had like twelve points two or four
from the three point. Line you got to the charity
stripe a few times as, well played twenty one.
Speaker 3: Minutes i'm, like, man this kid's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Good but you ended up At, clemson, Right so give
us a little breakdown of what happened why you ended
up At, clemson which is, LIKE i, mean that's your,
home that's like your hometown, school, Right, yeah, yeah it.
Speaker 5: Is So i'm from originally From South. Carolina BUT i
ACTUALLY i actually didn't play in all thirty thirty, Games
LIKE i think leading up to THE iona, GAME i
didn't play in ten ten games at, All like ten
GAMES i didn't.
Speaker 3: Play, Yeah so Like i'm just pulling it off the.
Bio SO i don't. Know they they you, know in
the bio and.
Speaker 1: By used, bio they say you played in thirty thirty,
Games so you're saying it was more like twenty games that.
Speaker 5: Season, YEAH i. DIDN'T i didn't play a. Lot IF
i did get, in it was like a two minutes
or some like. That.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah and they're very well could.
Speaker 1: HAVE i mean there was a few games in which
you came in probably at the end of the games one,
minute two, minutes three. Minutes you weren't getting significant Pt
that's for, certain, right like in some of these, Games.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's for. Sure. Well the thing is like WHEN i,
LEFT i was actually putting my mission papers to go
on the. Mission, okay so that's WHAT i LIKE i
decided to. DO i was going to go on a,
mission and my mission got, delayed so like they postponed
my mission to like pushed it back a few MONTHS
i think like eight months or something like, that and
Then i'll just basically play another year of college. Basketball
but ONCE i put in my mission, papers BY u
gave away my, scholarship so like that was LIKE i
think they would do that with cycle scholarships. Around. Yep
they gave me with my scholarship and they told ME
i could walk. ON i was, like, WELL i can't
walk on to college and then trying to play on
the pay for a. MISSION i was, Like, okay, YEAH i.
CAN'T i can't afford to do, that and they kind
of just kind of left it up in the, air
AND i was, like, yeah we'd love to have you,
back but if you, can't like that's. Understandable SO i
get a phone call, Like i'm just working at home
in the factory with my dad where he worked at
he worked At Eating. Electrical i'm not just working in the.
Factory AND i get a call from an assistant coach At.
Clemson he just got hired, home but he was AT usc.
Upstate he recruited my brother and things like, that and
he just asked me WHAT i was, doing AND i was,
Like i'm just working right, now getting ready from a
mission that got. Postponed and he's, like so you're not
playing right. Now he's, like do you want to? Play
AND i was, like, YEAH i want to, play and
he basically told me like a kid At clemson just
Towards achilles and he's going to be out for the
year and they needed somebody to come in and play right.
Now so it legit like happened like super sas and
like they called the coach and it was, like, yeah
you got to offer to come here if you want
to come here and play while you prepare for your,
mission and SO i did. That they called B yu
and B yu is, like we'll just release them straight to,
you and they just they just released, me and it
was just went super quick and then like within like
a week or, so like all was sound To. Quincon.
Speaker 1: Crazy, Man it's crazy how these stuff works. Out, like
and you, KNOW i sit there AND i, wonder like
the what? If you, know we're in sports, radio, right
so we're always like looking at the, past AND i
don't you.
Speaker 3: KNOW i, had Like Matt carlino on the show earlier this.
Speaker 1: Year we were talking ball with him and lead up
to THE tcu, game and so we were talking about
his transition away FROM byu as. Well but, man like
if this happened in the modern, era, right, like, hey you,
know you put in your papers and you're, like, okay got. Delayed,
Hey i'm gonna come back to say it's, like, hey it's,
okay you don't have a. Scholarship we get you on N.
Il we got, you, man we got a spot for,
you and, yeah you know we'll make up for some.
Speaker 3: Nil it's a different, world, Right.
Speaker 5: It's a definitely different.
Speaker 1: World BUT i, mean all things, CONSIDERED i, mean you
had a great career there At clemson and you were
in your hometown. TOO i, mean did it all work
out like the way it was supposed?
Speaker 5: To? FEEL i felt like it could have been, better
but it's still it's still worked. Out like my parents
family got to see me, play, yeah which is nice
because they didn't really get to see me play At.
Clemson i'm by you at. ALL i think my dad
came to one game that. Year that was the only
game he could come. Too so like having them be
able to be at all my. Games mostly ANYTIME i
played at home it was. Nice and on the, road
like some family members got to see me play In
virginia And maryland and things like that, too so it
was it was really.
Speaker 1: Good do you ever wonder, Though, hey what what what
it would have been like had you just stayed at
BY r if you could have stayed at B yu
for those those four?
Speaker 3: Years, YEAH i.
Speaker 5: DO i think about. IT i think about it a.
Lot AND i also think about like some of the
players that probably would have game, too.
Speaker 3: Because you would have helped recruit them.
Speaker 5: There, yeah maybe like seeing maybe like A jabbari come
or A Frank Frank jackson com things like. That it's
probably those type of players probably would have ended up
coming to B yu as. Well there's no, telling but
just just seeing it is just thinking About i'm pretty,
SURE i probab could have had a great career and
probably one definitely had more N C DOUBLE a, appearances
but also like competing to win maybe like a conference
championship like that would BEEN i feel like more to
achievaboy at B yu than it was At clinton in THE.
Agenc that was that that was pretty hard to try
to get a conference championship in THE.
Speaker 1: Agc, yeah you, know do you still keep in contact
with a lot of the guys you played with when
you wrap You?
Speaker 5: Yu, YEAH i still talk to some of, them Like
Charles Brandon, ansing LIKE i, said talk to, Them.
Speaker 3: YEAH i LOVE i love all those.
Speaker 1: Guys uh and, uh it's, uh it's cool that you
your stink net and it looks, LIKE i, mean you're
living here In utah now, Right.
Speaker 5: Yeah i'm In i'm In provo right. Now it's.
Speaker 3: Awesome how long you've been In?
Speaker 5: Provo like ten? YEARS i would, say BECAUSE i, WAS
i was still. Here this is my permanent residence WHEN
i was playing. Overseas So i'll just come back every
every summer and just be In.
Speaker 1: Utah so, yeah so that's THAT'S i didn't know, That
LIKE i didn't know that you had you had built your,
roots why why did you end up building the roots?
HERE i mean ten years after you graduated from From
clemson and you were playing, professionally why did you to
set up shop here and build roots.
Speaker 5: Here, well my brother was going TO byu like after his.
Mission he was AT. Yu so WHEN i, graduated LIKE
i came out here instead of just living at. Home,
yeah SO i came out here kind of made his home,
base like to be around, him but also like. DATE
i MEAN i feel like this is the. Same it
was like a better scene for dating here for like
the member of the. Church. Yep like that's kind of
kind of WHY i stay most of the time In.
Utah it's.
Speaker 3: Awesome.
Speaker 1: Man it looks like you've you've worked in, sales you
were at a Ward, Cod you've been With. Vercata are
you looking are those with those Tech is that like
tech sales? Essentially i'm not totally familiar with all these,
companies but is that where you're looking to stay in as?
Speaker 5: Well, yeah it was tech. Sales i'm open to anything
and everything right about, Now like IF i need to
do a career changed like a guy's kind of taking over. Everything,
Sure but But, yeah Like i'm open to stand into.
It i'm open to doing something. DIFFERENT i even thought
about going back to being a grad assistant and coaching
and getting into. Coaching i've thought about doing a, Lot
So i'm open to a. Lot i'm not stuck going
on one, thing But i'm just looking for opportunity that
can come come my.
Speaker 1: Way love, it, Man WHY i just sent you a
LinkedIn message and, Connection So i'd invite anybody THAT'S i
would like to connect with The marcus uh via. LinkedIn
check out his resume uh and see if his skill
set aligns with your your company or your h the
products and services that uh that you provide to this
uh this, uh this market or other. Markets connect with
The Marcus. Harrison, no, MAN i think it'd be really
cool to see you back. COACHING i, MEAN i look
at the the coaching staff, here uh for B yu,
Basketball it's it's pretty.
Speaker 3: Robust.
Speaker 1: Man they have a lot of you, know assistants and the. Specialists.
Uh what what role would you like to play as
a as a. COACH i know there's some development, positions there's,
uh you, know a lot of different. Specialties it seems
now even within the coaching.
Speaker 5: World, YEAH i could definitely be development or just started
as a grassist and then find my way. IN i
know some of the, guys LIKE i Know charles is.
THERE i Know justin pretty well. Too, uh did a
lot of workouts with him in the. Summer so, yeah
they got a lot of a lot of, GUYS a
lot of good guys on that staff as. Well AND
i feel like with the coach that they, have like
he knows what he's doing and you know what he
needs for his. Players so he's getting like a lot
of good former professional players and everything to be on his.
Speaker 1: Staff Has Paul peterson And anson tried to recruit you
over To.
Speaker 5: WASSATCH i talked to him for a little, bit but
it's kind of like in the middle of that. SEASON
i don't know what they're what their plans are for
like next year or anything like. That BUT i did
talk To anson a little bit about, it but it's
just there in the middle of the, season so they
didn't really have anything going right.
Speaker 1: Now they Got Jonathan lloyd over, There, okay they got
they Got.
Speaker 3: Lloyd, OKAY i see.
Speaker 5: You, YEAH i HEARD i heard about that, Too so,
yeah they they're doing they're doing good things, Too like
they got a GREAT i also got one of the
young kids THAT i used to train WHEN i was
doing some training out here In Utah Junior. County he's
killing it AND i think he's going To yukon this.
Year so. Nice so they got like following. Them they
know what they're doing. To paul's great player when he,
played and soon it was a good player when he
played as. Well SO i feel they they have a nice,
program top ranked program that's going around in the nation
making some noise For. Utah love.
Speaker 1: That, Man, well before we let you go To, BARKERS
i would be remiss IF i didn't ask about this
bo your basketball. Team what do you like about this
crew right? Now and what would you like to see
them improve?
Speaker 5: Upon SO i like, them, MAN i really like this.
Team it was a miracle that they could like get
a player like Aj, yeah for, sure get a number
one player in the nation to. Come so it's always
exciting to have like that caliboy. PLAYER i don't think
the way you ever had a caliber player like that
before they come through the. Program so like the hype is,
there like everything is, there and it's everything, STILL i
still think it's it's in reach for them to do
something special this. Year WHAT i would like to see
them improve, on it's just like, offense offensive, movement just ball,
movement and then figuring out a way to get the
bench involved to help them, out BECAUSE i think it's
easy for right now for like other teams just to
key in on three players for them just To, richie
rob and Aj. SHOW i think it's pretty easy for
us to. Scout they got a lot of time to
scout for him and game plan for. Him so it's
LIKE i think a monkey wrench to throw in is
just having like the bench be, productive and if they
can figure out a way for the bench to be
super productive and continue to help them get easy buckets
but also get ag and them easier buckets as well
because they can't help as much because the bench guys
are making shots and. THINGS i THINK bau will be really,
real really hard to win a game.
Speaker 1: Against wouldn't you like to, be, uh you, know a
set shooter with those three you know on the floor
and just kind of set up in the corner setup
from the extended wing and just get like wide open
standing three point.
Speaker 5: Shots, yes, Man they'll be. Easy the game a lot. Easy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, yeah you were a career back.
Speaker 1: Then you, know your career over you, know especially at
the end of your your career thirty five thirty four
point eight percent.
Speaker 3: From the three point. Line, uh you, know they could.
Speaker 1: Use a guy like you right, now especially in those
uh you, know that perimeter defense and those those pick
and pop situations That cannard's getting so many looks.
Speaker 5: On, YEAH i think for, him try not to just
worry about the three point shot as. Much, yeah like shoot,
it shoot it with, confidence, steal but like make your
let your defense score you some easy, points like get
get out and pass, lane get some, steals get some.
Layups like he guards the best, players so like you're
gonna be denying them. Anyway so just figure out whether
that you can like get you a steal or get
you a loan rebound and push and, transition get you a.
Layup and then like when you get those open, shots
they'll they'll fall most of the times because you you're
in a. Rhythm you got yourself in a.
Speaker 3: Rhythm like so let me ask you.
Speaker 1: THIS i, mean he's getting a lot of looks in
those picking pop. SITUATIONS i mean they're they're wide open
should he put it on the should he put it
on the floor and try to like get to the
rim in those, situations try to get to the free
throw line or pull up from mid range or should
continue to take those. SHOTS i mean it's a tough
it's a tough, thing, Right like when when it's, open
you should take it Right but at the same, time
when he's so inconsidented shooting below thirty percent from the
three point.
Speaker 5: Line, yeah it's a it's a mental thing for. Sure
BUT i, mean if you're gonna if you're practicing and
you're putting in the work and you make them in
practicing and you're shooting good in practice shooting in the,
game like if, not like you gotta be able to
mix it, in like all, Right i'm gonna drive it this,
time trying to get to get to a spot or
get to a, layup get fiut get to the, Line
like those are the things you gotta. Do but like
once you're in the game and you're, open if if you're,
practicing you're getting over the extra shots because you know
you're not shooting that. Well like if everything's like all
your your your warm up or like getting your preparedness
getting to the, Game like if you're doing the right,
things like your shot looking, good you knock them, down
and warm ups and your extra shots During LIKE i,
DON'T i don't see no problem with you shooting in a,
game especially when you open like, somebody, somebody somebody other
than those. Three you have to make. Shots so you're
gonna have to shoot.
Speaker 3: Them, yep somebody's got to hit, them.
Speaker 1: HOPEFULLY i, mean if who do you have trust in right,
now or who do you hope to have trust in
in the supporting cast around the the brig, three The
Triple combination as we like to call.
Speaker 5: Them outside of those, Three, YEAH i would love to
See kate would get more, Lobs LIKE i. DON'T i
don't expect them to score like a crazy amount of,
points but he could at least get you at, eight
eight to ten. Stuff, yeah just off of loves.
Speaker 3: Alone so just high pick and, roll you, know high
pick and roll and just have them just just just
run into the.
Speaker 5: Basket, yeah make them be a. Threat so for, that
so like if they take that, away then somebody's in
the corner open and that might Be, richie that might be,
thirty that might Be, milow like any because all of
them capable of. SHOOTING i just feel like they just
despairing when they get the boss because they don't know
when it's. Coming but also they still have to be ready.
Regardless but like they just need to get those those
shots so they can take them and just take them with.
Confidence BUT i also feel like they need to play
a little bit and getting a transition so those guys
have more. Opportunities is like seeing some easy ones go
through from layups or, something because in the half court
it's so much focused ON Aj rob and And. Riccie.
Speaker 1: Yeah love that breakdown To marcus vicou ord to you.
Man appreciate you hopping on for a little college basketball
segment and getting caught up with. YOU i just connected
with you On. LinkedIn i'll get your number also From.
Ronald let's stay in, touch, brother let me know if
you need anything from me in the.
Speaker 5: Meantime all, right appreciate, It, Ben thank you all, right.
Speaker 3: Much love to you and your. Family De.
Speaker 1: Marcus that was a great segment with The Marcus harrison
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