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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball

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<v Speaker 2>here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In

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<v Speaker 2>with me today is Tim Bentley, my usually Friday Day

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<v Speaker 2>Friday guy. Hello, Hello, welcome back, Jim.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad to be back. Happy Yeah, Happy New Year.

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<v Speaker 2>You were like mister Dora the Explorer.

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<v Speaker 3>I was out and about.

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<v Speaker 4>I went to Seattle, was up there when it was

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<v Speaker 4>about twelve degrees so that was prepared for the cold

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<v Speaker 4>weather here.

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<v Speaker 2>You went to find the winter.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was. It was so.

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<v Speaker 2>Cold, especially Seattle. That's kind of like fun.

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<v Speaker 4>It's rainy cold, so it wasn't any any fun cold

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<v Speaker 4>like it has been here. And then through New Year's

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<v Speaker 4>I had the crowd that everybody else had. So I

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<v Speaker 4>missed a day with you missed today.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Okay, No, you're back. That's fine. We've had

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<v Speaker 2>some pretty good show was yesterday. It was a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good show if you missed it. We're at the Casino

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<v Speaker 2>Dell Soul with the Greg Hanson and my guy Ja Gonzalez. Today.

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<v Speaker 2>Jay will be back at the end of the show

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<v Speaker 2>with his picks. Trying to catch me at the final

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<v Speaker 2>weekend of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds close to me. This sounds like it's a horse race.

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<v Speaker 2>I choked last week, so now he's caught up one

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<v Speaker 2>of these.

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<v Speaker 3>Remind me, what's the bad again? Are you guys? Million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars next?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, next year's entry feeds. He paid for me this

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<v Speaker 2>year because I beat him. Now, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>lose my throwing here.

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<v Speaker 3>No good.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to have you back. Cool. You're well known in

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<v Speaker 2>the city. I've brand into some people that knew you

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<v Speaker 2>and you were going to be on the show?

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<v Speaker 3>Did I I do? I owe him money?

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<v Speaker 2>They did not say anything but that, But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as long as they didn't say it, you're good.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, a lot of people know you too, Steve, so

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<v Speaker 4>I run across people, so they did, You're on that show?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Now, Steven Arry is a good guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Two people when that was my mom and she's I

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<v Speaker 5>was gonna that line too for a uh no, okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 2>So today we're gonna talk a lot about the basketball

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<v Speaker 2>game tomorrow with U A and uh, you know UCF

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<v Speaker 2>late night, another late night game they get to stay.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, I'll ask you a question that we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about yesterday. First of all, we're gonna have mister Torres,

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Torres from Fox Sports here in about three fifty

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<v Speaker 2>three seventeen calling from Los Angeles, getting his thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>the team and the college basketball is kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>weird season. Anybody can anybody can win it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we're on a five and zero wind streak, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's like I was watching some games and

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<v Speaker 4>I was like it was on a Tuesday or something,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, oh, this is this is Big twelve basketball.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, you know, anybody can win. And I love

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<v Speaker 4>watching it's it's it's a good test. Early on, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>glad we're getting beat up and elbowed and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean earlier in the year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they

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<v Speaker 2>have been and they have been so And then at

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<v Speaker 2>the four to seventeen hour we're gonna go with Brian

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<v Speaker 2>Peabody from Pima. They're undefeated. I don't know where they're ranked,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're under feeded, like seventeen and OHO doing very

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<v Speaker 2>very well. They have the Marley kid from Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're doing really well.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a good coach, Yeah he is. He is a

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<v Speaker 3>great coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. He has a bigger run Tours than Tommy Lloyd.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't give him a grief about that. Uh So,

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<v Speaker 2>no cool. So I asked the guys yesterday with Jay, mister,

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<v Speaker 2>mister happy, mister, you know, I'm a U bag guy

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<v Speaker 2>and Greg. Greg kind of agreed, No, he didn't, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of agree. He agreed with me. So Arizona's a five

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<v Speaker 2>and zero in the last five very the right of

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<v Speaker 2>the ship to a degree. I'm trying to not label

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<v Speaker 2>or to sway you. Uh, they've beaten you know, five straight,

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<v Speaker 2>they've beaten the last two in the Little League. Have

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<v Speaker 2>they gotten better? Have they gotten better?

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<v Speaker 4>I you know, you and I have talked about coaching

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<v Speaker 4>in the past, and so do you want to win

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<v Speaker 4>the early part of the season or do you want

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<v Speaker 4>to win you know, later at middle and then the end.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's rhetoric. Is that rhetorical?

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<v Speaker 3>Just a little bit?

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<v Speaker 4>But I you know, I was watching him play and

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<v Speaker 4>it's you know, they're getting the ball in the middle,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, down load a little bit more often than

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<v Speaker 4>they did early on. We had those talks in November, like,

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<v Speaker 4>what the what's I even have a tall guy down there?

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<v Speaker 3>You know you're not going to pass to them.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know if they've gotten you know, if

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<v Speaker 4>they've turned it around one hundred and eighty degrees.

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<v Speaker 3>But it feels better to me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great phrase. It feels better because it does

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<v Speaker 2>feel better and it looks better too.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and not just because they're winning, but because they're

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<v Speaker 4>playing in a way that's like, okay, this makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they're moving the ball, they're they're not just

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<v Speaker 3>running and gunning, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So it feels better. They're not just running gunning, but

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<v Speaker 2>they are, which is good for them. They're not just plotting.

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<v Speaker 2>Because this year they're plotting.

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<v Speaker 4>It look horrible, right the old it felt out of

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<v Speaker 4>sink and you know, at a at a at a

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<v Speaker 4>sink for sure, out of whack, and it just didn't

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<v Speaker 4>feel right.

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<v Speaker 3>So it just feels better.

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<v Speaker 2>Feels better. Yeah, Okay, so so I posed that, well

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<v Speaker 2>they better and okay you kind of said yes, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>they just didn't play anybody, and people are gonna say, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the first three before the Big twelve, they didn't. Those

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<v Speaker 2>teams were ayn't good, right, Those aren't the team you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to play the turna right, right, And Cincinnati and

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<v Speaker 2>West Virginia are Okay, I know they were ranked, but

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<v Speaker 2>that was kind of they backed into being ranking. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know what, I think, we beat West Virginia

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<v Speaker 4>on the for the second time, so we learned a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit, right, you beat him for the first time after

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<v Speaker 2>the second right after, right.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think you know that's that bodes well, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like people are learning, you know, listening to what coach

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's say this, it beats the alternative, which the

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<v Speaker 2>alternative is losing right right, right, So so yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>they've gotten better. They're playing better, playing looks better.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it just feels it feels right to me.

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<v Speaker 3>It hits the right spot in my brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so are they better at I said yesterday that

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<v Speaker 2>let's wait until or hold judgment until they played the Houstons,

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<v Speaker 2>the Iowa States, the Texas Techs, the Baylors, because those

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<v Speaker 2>are the teams that you'll be measured against in March.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, my buddy Dave is a big Houston

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<v Speaker 4>fan and he's riding them all.

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<v Speaker 3>The way through Houston, Houston as he should.

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<v Speaker 4>They're very good, they're great, and so I think what's missing,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like I would say that their medium right now,

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<v Speaker 4>they're not great, they're not bad. Who's the and their

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<v Speaker 4>medium right now? And what hasn't clicked for me is

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you used to kind of you used to

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<v Speaker 4>know that Juve was going to rise to the challenge.

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<v Speaker 4>They were going to play the great teams great and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't feel like they've done that.

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<v Speaker 3>Just quite yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, because they haven't, you know, the games

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<v Speaker 2>that they.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't get that sense that they have that that extra gear.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and and you had proof with the first those

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<v Speaker 2>games that they lost with UCLA's and the Oklahoma's and

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<v Speaker 2>all that, even though Oklahoma's kind of middlely now kind of,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're still good. Uh So, But that's I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>poop pooing Arizona because I think eventually they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get even better moving forward.

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<v Speaker 3>But if they beat the teams that they shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Beat or will have a hard time beating, the Iowa States,

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<v Speaker 2>the Houston's, the Baylors, and the Texas text maybe uh

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<v Speaker 2>then they then they sold me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in and if they can win a few of

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<v Speaker 4>those games, you know, make it to the tournament. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that, you know, this rough row through the Big

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<v Speaker 4>twelve Welcome to It boys, is going to help them.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Just a few days ago, maybe ten seven, no

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<v Speaker 2>one thought that they're well, no one, a few people

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<v Speaker 2>thought they were going to be the tournament at all. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>there were nowhere to be found. Now you can kind

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<v Speaker 2>of probably see that they're capable.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then worthy, you know that you get on

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<v Speaker 4>a run, you know, they start to feel good, they

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<v Speaker 4>start to listen to their coach. You know, I've I've

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<v Speaker 4>heard some people say, you know, you know, people start

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<v Speaker 4>to think about these kids, start to think about you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, what is it? What does a run look like?

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<v Speaker 3>How does it help me?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, how does it help me in that sense

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<v Speaker 4>going forward? You know, like if you know, when the

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<v Speaker 4>season gets done, where do I stand?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And I owe money the next gig.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that sad? That that's what we're kind of talking

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<v Speaker 2>about now. It's not about the team, It's not about

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<v Speaker 2>it's like what's in it for me?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? And it's it's every time you're.

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<v Speaker 4>Talking about that, I do because I see it and

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<v Speaker 4>I and I and I think, you know it's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to be just like the NFL. You you

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<v Speaker 4>root for the colors, the NBA, you root for the colors.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to become that way, Sorr. It's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be hard to be loyal to a team because you're

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<v Speaker 4>to a college team, to the players.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's always been the case because if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>booster guy or whatever, you've always been a booster to

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<v Speaker 2>the school. Right And Tim Bentley comes through for three

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<v Speaker 2>four years, he's gone, okay, nice knowing you, Tim, Thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're always a wildcat. Steve comes in, blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah. You always get but you're always they're putting

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<v Speaker 2>money into the school, not the person.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, But now that it can be you don't invest

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<v Speaker 4>in a kid for three or four years, you're you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, you're renting. You're renting a player a kid for

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<v Speaker 3>a you know, for six or seven months.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the sad part.

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<v Speaker 3>Two year olds in what sense, well, what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what'd you think when you're eighteen nineteen.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they're getting those I think those kids are

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<v Speaker 3>I know foods that are purple are not good for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I eat hot tomorrow every day for breakfast?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly? You think I've got one point five in the bank, Tim,

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<v Speaker 2>or mister Booster, I don't need to hear you.

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<v Speaker 4>All these kids want to play at the next level,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, statistics show that one percent of them might.

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<v Speaker 3>So I worry that they don't get good advice.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Hey, you can make it to the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's gonna be the case. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the case. We've talked about that where

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<v Speaker 2>YadA YadA. Five years are done. Well, what degree do

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you have six years of school. I went

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<v Speaker 4>to school you know, for for eighteen of those months

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<v Speaker 4>out of six.

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<v Speaker 2>Years, right right, And you know, come on, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think maybe there's a professor out there that's listening. You

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<v Speaker 2>can call me. Do the kids actually care about school?

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<v Speaker 2>Have the ever? I'm sure the serious ones do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>My wife is a professor at the UVEAN, and so

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<v Speaker 2>Okay to this, So they do, but they does she

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<v Speaker 2>teach student athletes.

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<v Speaker 3>From time to time. She does. Okay, good, so from

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<v Speaker 2>The qualified for this conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I doubt if she's going to call in right now.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, the kids in that eighteen and nineteen range,

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to be knuckleheads.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, of course.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter if you're a high level athlete or

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<v Speaker 3>you're the smartest kid. You're just knuckle ahead, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>But these upper classmen, these kids that decide that school

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<v Speaker 4>is important to them, those kids are good, are good students.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It just it's like anything else. It just takes a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of years of maturation. Sure, to mature a little bit, sure,

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<v Speaker 4>especially when you get closer to the end of the road.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you're thinking, oh crap, do I know enough, Am

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<v Speaker 4>I ready enough?

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a couple of interns that have come through

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<v Speaker 2>here in the years. In fact, I reached out to

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<v Speaker 2>them today and they had internships when they left. And

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<v Speaker 2>I suggest this all the time, and you know you're

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<v Speaker 2>in the business, start early, meet as many people as

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<v Speaker 2>you can. Get your name out. If you're good, they'll

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<v Speaker 2>find you or keep you. And two of them just

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<v Speaker 2>don't have jobs. I mean they don't have jobs because

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<v Speaker 2>the one was of the dbacks. I didn't know it

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<v Speaker 2>Phoenix winning, but he's a barteight. And the other one

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<v Speaker 2>was in Los Angeles because she's from there, and now

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<v Speaker 2>her new ventures closed.

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<v Speaker 2>So but you know, hell, my newspaper closed. My whole

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<v Speaker 2>career went the crap. Well, so you pivot. I tell

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<v Speaker 2>kids all the time you have to be essential. I've

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<v Speaker 2>told your your guy here, I said, be essential. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I can do that. You want, I got it. I

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<v Speaker 3>Can I help.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in you know, be essential, be in in somebody's

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<v Speaker 4>space and say I can do that, because eventually something's

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<v Speaker 4>going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever you need.

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<v Speaker 4>People aren't just going to hand it to you. And

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<v Speaker 4>so these kids that are in college, you talk about

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<v Speaker 4>getting to the end. You know, at some point, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when their eligibility is running out, they're going to realize

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<v Speaker 4>are they in for the next level or not? And

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<v Speaker 4>that's that hard wake up call that I worry about

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<v Speaker 4>for some kids that don't have that education or don't

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<v Speaker 4>have some stability experience, you know. And maybe they have

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<v Speaker 4>six hundred grand in the bank, which is a nice chunk,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's you know, for the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>I give you that, give you that.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, I have a I have a half a

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<v Speaker 3>semester of eligibility left. I'm thinking about going back. They're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna make me gifts them.

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<v Speaker 2>In but it's just tough. And I'm not crying for

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<v Speaker 2>the student athletes. They've never had any better than now, right, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Noah's and the TM Max and all

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<v Speaker 2>those guys. Some guy was gonna pay. I saw somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>at one point five million, uh somewhere, maybe a quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>in Washington State. I'm thinking, really quarterback for washing in

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<v Speaker 2>Washington State. I think that's where it was. How in

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<v Speaker 2>the world, I don't welcome to America, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I read about it, and I know that you know

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<v Speaker 4>these high level players that you have super duper talent

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<v Speaker 4>or their super high profile. You know, they bring a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of attention to your program. I can see that.

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<v Speaker 4>But there this must be a big pot of money

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<v Speaker 4>that I don't know about, yeah somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you and I both don't know the right people.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing they're going to give it to us, although I

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<v Speaker 2>for one of the brothers, very inexpensive. Hey, with that,

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<v Speaker 14>Streamy Live on the iHeartRadio WI. This is High on

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<v Speaker 14>the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox sportsporteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to play on the ball here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Riverta. Here Tim Bentley.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're just waiting a call from our guy, Aaron Torres,

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<v Speaker 2>and here At comes. Let's see what he says. Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>is this you?

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, sir?

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<v Speaker 15>What's up?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you doing? Aaron, We're on the air. You

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<v Speaker 2>called just in time. We're just coming back, perfect timing. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>good to hear from you guy. You must be busy

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<v Speaker 2>tracking everybody around the college basketball scene.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, it's a fun time of year. It's it's you know, December.

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<v Speaker 15>I'll say this and you know, Janny, December used to

457
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<v Speaker 15>be a little bit of a reprieve with everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 15>but with the expanded college football playoff and with the

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<v Speaker 15>transfer portal in football, it no longer is. But I'd

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<v Speaker 15>rather be busy than not busy. So it's been a

461
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<v Speaker 15>busy time, you know. I think college football is a

462
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<v Speaker 15>really on its lass legs. Two games left in the season.

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<v Speaker 15>I think the portal. It's not only literally closed, but

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<v Speaker 15>most of the priority names are kind of made their decisions.

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<v Speaker 16>So it's time.

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<v Speaker 6>This felt like the real.

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<v Speaker 15>The first week that everybody was locked in on basketball

468
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<v Speaker 15>and cannot wait to kind of do that with you

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<v Speaker 15>guys over the next few minutes and really over the

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<v Speaker 15>next few months.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, you keep your eyes on Arizona basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>I had Fran Mischelle on earlier this week. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was the best, very very good, very insightful, and

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<v Speaker 2>he made a mention that I really didn't know or

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<v Speaker 2>pay attention to, maybe that the Big Twelve was down.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you agree, because it kind of makes sense.

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<v Speaker 15>No, I've heard hear him say that in passing, don't.

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<v Speaker 15>I don't want to be for frand for sure certainly

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<v Speaker 15>the guy who's the face of the league and has

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<v Speaker 15>covered it for fifteen twenty years. Whatever, I don't, I

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<v Speaker 15>don't perceive him meaning it's literally down. I think what

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<v Speaker 15>he means is that for years, the Big Twelve, not

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<v Speaker 15>only with the eye test, but was basically always the

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<v Speaker 15>best conference in college basketball. And I think a lot

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<v Speaker 15>of that part of it too, was it was just smaller. Right.

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<v Speaker 15>Is that there's there's ten teams, and probably most years

487
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<v Speaker 15>nine of them were in the mix for an NCAA

488
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<v Speaker 15>tournament bit even into late February early March. And so

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<v Speaker 15>this year, I do think the SEC feels like it

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<v Speaker 15>has become the best conference in college basketball. And I

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<v Speaker 15>think from my perspective, From my perspective, I think it's

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<v Speaker 15>more the SEC elevating than the Big Twelve kind of

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<v Speaker 15>taking any kind of stumbles. Because listen, man, you guys

494
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<v Speaker 15>watch this league like I do. Arizona's playing better, Houston's

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<v Speaker 15>still really good, even though they took a few months early. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 15>Iowa State, it goes without saying Arizona State's playing pretty well.

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<v Speaker 15>They played Kansas tough at bog Allenfield out, So I

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<v Speaker 15>could go on and on, but I don't think he

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<v Speaker 15>means like, oh, the league is awful. It's just that

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<v Speaker 15>maybe this year specifically, the SEC is better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, you talk about the dilution of the Big Twelve.

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<v Speaker 4>What maybe was talking about was there's just more teams. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>there's still that strong nine or ten teams at the

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<v Speaker 4>top that you know, but now that you have eighteen teams,

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<v Speaker 4>that just drags down and where does the fit in there?

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<v Speaker 15>Well, it's a great to both questions. So I think

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<v Speaker 15>it's I think this is the new reality in college sports.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, we go back to the college football playoffs,

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<v Speaker 15>and you know, we would argue over Indiana or SMU

511
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<v Speaker 15>or whomever, and and part of the they didn't play

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<v Speaker 15>anybody is because there's just so many teams in these

513
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<v Speaker 15>conferences now. And so to me, I think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 15>I think that that's every conference they're dealing with it

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<v Speaker 15>right now. Is that maybe the SEC is the exception,

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<v Speaker 15>but you know, if you look at the ACC, there

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<v Speaker 15>might be no top outside of Dukes.

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<v Speaker 16>So everybody stands outside of Dukes.

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<v Speaker 15>So it's better to be uh, it's better to be

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<v Speaker 15>uh where the Big twelve is probably than a lot

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<v Speaker 15>of other conferences. So that that to me, I think

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<v Speaker 15>there's no doubt that when you have when you add this,

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<v Speaker 15>you know, they've had it eighteen what is it, eight

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<v Speaker 15>teams over the past two years, and they've obviously lost

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<v Speaker 15>to reasonably good basketball schools as well two great football schools.

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<v Speaker 16>But I think that's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 15>That's going to be a byproduct of just the world

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<v Speaker 15>that we live in. You know, as far as the

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<v Speaker 15>league itself is concerned, and as far as where Arizona.

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<v Speaker 16>Fits into that picture, I think that.

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<v Speaker 15>To me, I think there's a definitive top two right

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<v Speaker 15>now in Houston and Iowa State. I'm not sold that

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<v Speaker 15>Kansas is there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 15>They might be there by the end of the year,

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<v Speaker 15>but you know, Kansas obviously a few weeks ago lost

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<v Speaker 15>to Missourian and out a conference game. They lost an

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<v Speaker 15>early conference game just a few days ago to West

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<v Speaker 15>Virginia at home, and of course even on the even

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<v Speaker 15>at home this week against Arizona State, struggled against what

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<v Speaker 15>I think is a good Arizona State team, but I

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<v Speaker 15>don't think they're great. So to me, I think Arizona

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<v Speaker 15>has over the last few weeks played their way probably

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<v Speaker 15>into that second tier. You could probably include West Virginia,

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<v Speaker 15>whoew that I know they just beat without some key players.

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<v Speaker 15>I think you could probably include Texas Tech. I'm a

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<v Speaker 15>little lower on Baylor than most, but I think you

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<v Speaker 15>could probably include Tech Baylor in the second tier. So

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<v Speaker 15>I think right now I would have a top two

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<v Speaker 15>that is very defined, and then after that about six

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<v Speaker 15>seven teams beyond them.

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<v Speaker 2>So you said that Arizona's playing better, and I agree

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<v Speaker 2>with you, I think both of us do. I'm skeptical

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<v Speaker 2>in as much as they played three teams early before

555
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<v Speaker 2>the conference, before the streak, they weren't very good, right,

556
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<v Speaker 2>they should beat them pretty easily. Then they went to Cincinnati,

557
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<v Speaker 2>won that one. They went to beat West Virginia, you know,

558
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<v Speaker 2>water down West Virginia. But so they're playing better, but

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<v Speaker 2>are they better? That's the thing, because they haven't played

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<v Speaker 2>the Houston's, they haven't played the North, the Iowa States,

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<v Speaker 2>those quality teams that they'll eventually have to get through,

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<v Speaker 2>or quality teams like that in the tournament.

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<v Speaker 15>Well, I do think they're playing better, and I think

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<v Speaker 15>individuals are playing better.

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<v Speaker 14>Now.

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<v Speaker 15>I think the question is is it all sustainable?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, And you know, I think it just comes you

569
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<v Speaker 15>know what I would say too, guys, And I know

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<v Speaker 15>you know this. You talk about it every single day.

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<v Speaker 15>Some of the guys that are playing better are kind

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<v Speaker 15>of just playing at the level we thought they could

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<v Speaker 15>play out like a Caleb love is you know, like

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<v Speaker 15>like listen, guys, and I know you talked about it

575
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<v Speaker 15>all November December, Like maybe you guys have an explanation

576
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<v Speaker 15>for what was going on with Caleb Glove and kJ

577
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<v Speaker 15>Lewis to a smaller degree, I don't, but it was

578
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<v Speaker 15>a little jarring. You know, Caleb Loved At every stop

579
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<v Speaker 15>that he's had, he's been able to contribute and be

580
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<v Speaker 15>a factor right away, and he really wasn't for about

581
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<v Speaker 15>those first ten or twelve games of the season. kJ

582
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<v Speaker 15>Love obviously moving to a starting role. Listen, I'm one

583
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<v Speaker 15>of the people that was guilty of assuming that he

584
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<v Speaker 15>was this good as the sixth man last year, so

585
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<v Speaker 15>that automatically means he's going to be this good as

586
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<v Speaker 15>a starter this year. And that hasn't necessarily, you know,

587
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<v Speaker 15>translated at least early. But I think to me, it's

588
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<v Speaker 15>more about just some guys playing up to their capabilities.

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<v Speaker 14>Now.

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<v Speaker 15>The one thing I do think with Arizona, I just

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<v Speaker 15>don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>They're as deep.

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<v Speaker 15>And part of it is obviously like they have some injuries,

594
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<v Speaker 15>but I just don't think they're as deep as they've

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<v Speaker 15>been in previous years. And you know, it's funny, as

596
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<v Speaker 15>everybody's diagnosing them early in the year, it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 15>it's not only that Caleb Love and these guys aren't

598
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<v Speaker 15>playing as well as they have. It's also that, oh,

599
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<v Speaker 15>by the way, I mean last year you had us.

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<v Speaker 15>I've said this consistently. You had a six seven eight

601
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<v Speaker 15>of Jaden Bradley, kJ Lewis and also Crevis off the

602
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<v Speaker 15>bench that was probably the best three man bench crew

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<v Speaker 15>in the country.

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<v Speaker 16>And I say that as a Yukon.

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<v Speaker 15>Fan that watched my school win the national championship and

606
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<v Speaker 15>had the biggest six man of the year in Hassan Dier.

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<v Speaker 15>But nobody had a six seven eight man quite like

608
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<v Speaker 15>those guys, And so I think that's been the unspoken issue.

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<v Speaker 15>It's not even just that kJ Lewis and Caleb Love

610
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<v Speaker 15>weren't playing great to start the year, but that you

611
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<v Speaker 15>just didn't have the guys you know, that could replace them,

612
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<v Speaker 15>that had any type of juice as well. So it

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<v Speaker 15>feels like Tommy's done some stuff, He's figured some stuff out.

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<v Speaker 15>It sounds like I'm a little bit more optimistic that

615
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<v Speaker 15>it's sustainable than maybe Steve is.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I think I.

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<v Speaker 15>Still think they're in the upper part of the twelve.

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<v Speaker 15>And I think the important thing to note too is

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<v Speaker 15>one and I mentioned.

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<v Speaker 16>This a few days.

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<v Speaker 15>I forget what I was even saying it, but they

622
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<v Speaker 15>do have by Big twelve standards A pretty manageable stretch

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<v Speaker 15>here going forward. Now you need it because you get

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<v Speaker 15>to you get to February, you play BYU twice, you

625
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<v Speaker 15>play what Iowa State twice, and you play at Utah

626
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<v Speaker 15>and at Kansas. So let me see here you play,

627
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<v Speaker 15>you play after January twenty seventh, you play Iowa State twice,

628
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<v Speaker 15>at Kansas, at Kansas State, Houston at home. And I

629
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<v Speaker 15>don't even like a Kansas State is struggling, but that's

630
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<v Speaker 15>still a tough place to play. So I guess the

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<v Speaker 15>point that I'm trying to make is you need to

632
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<v Speaker 15>go out and run these next few weeks because it's

633
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<v Speaker 15>not going to get any easier when he hit February.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it is winter. You're gonna save all that all

635
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<v Speaker 2>that food for the for the deep winter. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>ask you, yes, how far? Here's the question? What will

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<v Speaker 2>have to happen if Arizona gets deep in a tournament?

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<v Speaker 2>Will it be X player? Well? Will have to happen? Well?

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<v Speaker 15>You know one? I think obviously it goes out saying

640
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<v Speaker 15>the three or four guys that you were expecting to

641
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<v Speaker 15>play really well this year, most notably Caleb love kJ

642
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<v Speaker 15>Lewis they have to do it at a consistent level.

643
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<v Speaker 15>But to me, the X factor, and I've said this

644
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<v Speaker 15>from the beginning is Carter Bryant. And and you know

645
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<v Speaker 15>I've said this before. You know, like a guy like

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<v Speaker 15>John cal Perry right now, he's taken a lot of heat,

647
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<v Speaker 15>but a lot of cal Perry's philosophy through the years

648
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<v Speaker 15>has been, hey, I'm willing to sacrifice losses in you know,

649
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<v Speaker 15>not September, but November, December, January to get my guys

650
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<v Speaker 15>ready for March. And you know, there's been a lot

651
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<v Speaker 15>of times, and I've covered this for years where fans think, oh,

652
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<v Speaker 15>you got to bench this guy, You got to get

653
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<v Speaker 15>to bench that guy, and then cal plays through them,

654
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<v Speaker 15>and then by the time the season and they're one

655
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<v Speaker 15>of the best players in the country and they're a

656
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<v Speaker 15>lot of toy pick whatever. Tommy, you know, kind of

657
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<v Speaker 15>comes from the Mark Futree of if you're.

658
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<v Speaker 3>Not good enough, you're not playing.

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<v Speaker 15>And I think that's a luxury you can have when

660
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<v Speaker 15>you have really good deep teams like Tommy had last

661
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<v Speaker 15>year and maybe you know, really year one, two out

662
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<v Speaker 15>of the three years, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Think he has that kind of depth.

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<v Speaker 15>And so I get the whole you bring freshman lungs.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm sorry, it's Carter Bryan's an NBA player, and you

666
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<v Speaker 15>got to get him going, and you got to get

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<v Speaker 15>him confident so that he's a contributor to the back

668
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<v Speaker 15>cap when the schedule gets comfort. So to me, that's

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<v Speaker 15>the X factor. And you know, part of it's on

670
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<v Speaker 15>the player, but I think part of it's on the

671
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:27.240
<v Speaker 15>coaching staff too, of just and it seems like they've

672
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<v Speaker 15>been doing this more late, but you just got to

673
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<v Speaker 15>let him play through some mistakes. He's a freshman. He's

674
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<v Speaker 15>gonna make some mistakes. But the upside of what he

675
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:37.599
<v Speaker 15>could be even by February or March is worked it

676
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<v Speaker 15>for a mistake in January against Central Florida or whoever.

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<v Speaker 3>You're playing, exactly good point exactly that we talk about

678
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<v Speaker 3>that a lot. Do you want to win November or

679
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:47.839
<v Speaker 3>do you want to win March? You know, so sometimes

680
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<v Speaker 3>you got to get there.

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<v Speaker 15>And I think, and Tommy, I know I've just said it,

682
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<v Speaker 15>but you know that's a mark. Mark Few is kind

683
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<v Speaker 15>of one of the poster children. And I remember having

684
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<v Speaker 15>this conversation years ago when Jay Wright was at Villanova.

685
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<v Speaker 15>I said one time that I if my son wasn't

686
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<v Speaker 15>one and done, I wouldn't send him to Villanova, and

687
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:10.920
<v Speaker 15>I had Villanova fans mad at you. Oh so you're

688
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<v Speaker 15>just saying, just play a player if he's not good enough,

689
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<v Speaker 15>and it's like, that's not what I said. But like

690
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<v Speaker 15>the point is is that sometimes you just have to

691
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<v Speaker 15>let young guys play through mistakes, because you know, a

692
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<v Speaker 15>car Bryant's the kind of guy where I'm not saying

693
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<v Speaker 15>he will, but.

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<v Speaker 16>You know, if he gets his confidence and he.

695
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<v Speaker 15>Gets used to the bumps and bruises of the Big twelve,

696
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<v Speaker 15>I mean, that's a guy that could, by marsh gets

697
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<v Speaker 15>you twenty points on any given night, Whereas, like I

698
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<v Speaker 15>think there are guys on the bench that might be

699
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<v Speaker 15>a senior that might not kill you right now, that

700
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<v Speaker 15>aren't going to ever be able to have that upside.

701
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<v Speaker 15>So it's just a different way of doing things, you know,

702
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<v Speaker 15>different philosophy. But I think it's one that Tommy Royd

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<v Speaker 15>Tricau I think about implementing.

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron, I'm thinking about this.

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<v Speaker 4>We're looking at this through these lens of the U

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<v Speaker 4>of A and Big twelve, And I'm curious about your

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<v Speaker 4>take on the national the quality of basketball on the

708
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<v Speaker 4>national level. Are you seeing this across the board? Is

709
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<v Speaker 4>it diluted? Is the quality down? Kids are moving around

710
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<v Speaker 4>a lot. So there's a lot of disjoint in this.

711
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<v Speaker 4>What's your take?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I.

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<v Speaker 15>We're all prisoners at the moment. I thought November and

714
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<v Speaker 15>December there were as many good, fun, competitive games as

715
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<v Speaker 15>I think that they're really that I can remember. And

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<v Speaker 15>again maybe I'm being revision's history. I think to me,

717
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:31.240
<v Speaker 15>it's a byproduct of you know, simple supply and demand.

718
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<v Speaker 15>Is not even supply and demand, but basically supply is

719
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<v Speaker 15>that there's just more players available to all these schools

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<v Speaker 15>than there ever have been. And I think, you know,

721
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<v Speaker 15>if could be anybody, it could be Arizona, could be Kansas, Iowa,

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<v Speaker 15>Stay whoever. You know, you kind of lost the guide

723
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<v Speaker 15>to the NBA Draft that you weren't expecting. You had

724
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<v Speaker 15>no way to replace it. Now you go get a

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<v Speaker 15>fiftiar guy that's been in the Mountain West or something,

726
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:57.119
<v Speaker 15>and you know, can contribute right away. And so you also,

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<v Speaker 15>I believe too, I think the impact of the international

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<v Speaker 15>players that even three four years ago wouldn't even be

729
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<v Speaker 15>coming to college basketball, whereas now you know, you look

730
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<v Speaker 15>at Illinois, maybe the best team in the Big Ten,

731
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<v Speaker 15>and their starting point guard is a kid that is

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<v Speaker 15>going to be a lottery pick. He willn't have even been

733
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<v Speaker 15>in college basketball last year. He's from Lithuania. So I think,

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<v Speaker 15>to me, the quality has been better. I think it's

735
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<v Speaker 15>more of a byproduct of the best teams are now older.

736
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<v Speaker 15>The best teams also can afford to.

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<v Speaker 3>Just keep players in college, right.

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<v Speaker 16>I mean, listen, we use a football example.

739
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<v Speaker 15>We saw it with Carson Beck today. Carson Beck six

740
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<v Speaker 15>seven years ago. He just goes pro and he's a

741
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:38.440
<v Speaker 15>third round pick, and maybe he makes it, maybe he doesn't.

742
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<v Speaker 15>This year, you know, he's coming back to college for

743
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<v Speaker 15>a fifth year. He's gonna get paid handsomely to do it.

744
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<v Speaker 15>He's gonna get paid more to be a college to

745
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<v Speaker 15>be a college football player next year than he would

746
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:52.559
<v Speaker 15>be in the NFL. And so I think there's a

747
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:55.519
<v Speaker 15>lot of players across all levels of college basketball that

748
00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:58.400
<v Speaker 15>are frankly making more money by staying in college than

749
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<v Speaker 15>they would have. You know, the guys at the high

750
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.039
<v Speaker 15>major level that would have been second or third round

751
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<v Speaker 15>picks or undrafted. The guys at the mid major level,

752
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:08.440
<v Speaker 15>that maybe he have no pro futures are now staying

753
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<v Speaker 15>because hey, I can whatever a small number is to

754
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<v Speaker 15>you guys, I don't you know. I don't want to

755
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<v Speaker 15>insult anybody, but I can make thirty forty fifty thousand

756
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:17.839
<v Speaker 15>dollars to be a college basketball player when I maybe

757
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:21.960
<v Speaker 15>wouldn't have ten twelve fifteen years ago. So I actually

758
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.559
<v Speaker 15>think the quality of play to me is a little

759
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<v Speaker 15>bit better. And the last thing I'd say, I know

760
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<v Speaker 15>I'm going a little bit wrong. I think part of

761
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<v Speaker 15>it too is also were out three four years into

762
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<v Speaker 15>this nil portal era, and we've obviously seen a lot

763
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:36.720
<v Speaker 15>of coaches leave. But I think the coaches that are

764
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<v Speaker 15>here kind of understanding this is the new world. This

765
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<v Speaker 15>is Hey, you know, the idea of keeping nine players

766
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:45.319
<v Speaker 15>off last year's roster, if none of them are graduating,

767
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.920
<v Speaker 15>that's just gone. And so I think the guys that

768
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:49.920
<v Speaker 15>are in it. You know a lot of guys that left,

769
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.680
<v Speaker 15>Tony Bett's left, Jay Wright's left, whatever, But the guys

770
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<v Speaker 15>that are in it are like, this is the new world.

771
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:57.359
<v Speaker 15>I have to deal with it, and I can't hold

772
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<v Speaker 15>on to what it once was. And so I think

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<v Speaker 15>the the way guys, coach is different. I think the

774
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<v Speaker 15>quality of player is different than like I said, the

775
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<v Speaker 15>ability to retain players, even good ones, I think is

776
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<v Speaker 15>a huge.

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<v Speaker 2>Expector to me, what do you think? Just one more

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<v Speaker 2>last question? Aaron Torres with Aaron Sports podcast. How can

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<v Speaker 2>they find you? Real quick? Just real quick? Before my question?

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, Aaron underscore tours on Twitter to the air Torus

781
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:26.159
<v Speaker 15>podcast four times a week, and then of course Steve

782
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<v Speaker 15>as you know, we have the Tours on Arizona.

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<v Speaker 16>Page which covers all things.

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<v Speaker 15>Arizona and we have a great internal run.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, you do a great job. What's the most

786
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<v Speaker 2>compelling story so far? Is it the coaches leaving the

787
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Bennett's and Larnigos and what.

788
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<v Speaker 3>Is it in college basketball?

789
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 15>I don't know, you know, I think to me, I

791
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<v Speaker 15>would argue to me, I do think it's probably the SEC.

792
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<v Speaker 15>I don't know if it will stay that way, And

793
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<v Speaker 15>I'll tell you why. Like I think, on paper, it

794
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<v Speaker 15>seems fun of like, oh.

795
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:08.280
<v Speaker 16>You know, anybody can beat anybody else on.

796
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<v Speaker 3>Any given night, and that.

797
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<v Speaker 15>Might be true, but like if you're a Kentucky fan

798
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<v Speaker 15>and you're used to going, you know, fourteen and four

799
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<v Speaker 15>in the league, and now all of a sudden, it's

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<v Speaker 15>mid you know, it's early February, and you're, you know,

801
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<v Speaker 15>eight and seven with three games to go, and you're

802
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<v Speaker 15>playing the basketball like I don't know if that's as

803
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<v Speaker 15>fun for fans as they think it is, but I

804
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<v Speaker 15>do think it is the SEC because I think listen,

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<v Speaker 15>I you know, the Lonardi projections early in the season

806
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<v Speaker 15>had like twelve thirteen teams in I think it's probably

807
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<v Speaker 15>gonna be ten or eleven. But I think there are

808
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<v Speaker 15>ten or eleven really good teams. And I think if

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<v Speaker 15>you watch those teams, whether it's not only All Burned

810
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<v Speaker 15>but also Tennessee Tennessee Florida, I think there are three

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<v Speaker 15>or four teams, maybe five even that are good enough

812
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<v Speaker 15>to get to a Final four. So I think that,

813
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<v Speaker 15>to me is the most compelling thing because there are

814
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<v Speaker 15>just so many teams in that league this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, we're going to catch up to you. Will

816
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<v Speaker 2>always continue to bug you. Thanks for coming on.

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<v Speaker 15>No problem, guys, I appreciate you. Have a great afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk. Took eron touris erin touris one of the

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<v Speaker 2>great guys. Let's take a break here and come back

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<v Speaker 2>and talk more about college basketball.

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<v Speaker 14>This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifding.

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<v Speaker 14>Want to take part in the show. Call up Steve

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00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:29.679
<v Speaker 14>now at five to two oh four one seventy four nights.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to Buying the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fortuny. I'm Steve Rivera. You know sim Bedley. Hey,

873
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:40.199
<v Speaker 2>we gotta call, we gotta call. You're on the air

874
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:41.280
<v Speaker 2>and I on the ball. Who's this?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey?

876
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:44.480
<v Speaker 15>And Steve listener guy Gary, I'd like calling you.

877
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:45.119
<v Speaker 2>Every now and then.

878
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:47.480
<v Speaker 18>I Uh, I forgot. I'd get a little basketball here

879
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:49.599
<v Speaker 18>with you. I was watching a special last night on

880
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:53.360
<v Speaker 18>Channel nine. You're talking about an African American museum with

881
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:54.119
<v Speaker 18>with Bob Elliet.

882
00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:55.119
<v Speaker 2>That's dark my memory.

883
00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:57.880
<v Speaker 18>Uh the announcing this one of my favorite announcing teams

884
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.960
<v Speaker 18>arebably gonna catch some heck for this. Dave sitting Bob Ellie.

885
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:01.760
<v Speaker 18>That's when I used to.

886
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:05.679
<v Speaker 2>Do the local. Yeah, back in the day was great. Okay, Yeah,

887
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:07.079
<v Speaker 2>back in the day, Eli.

888
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:08.480
<v Speaker 15>Got a little Ellie got a little crazy. But he

889
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:09.280
<v Speaker 15>wasn't afraid to.

890
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:09.679
<v Speaker 14>Call him out.

891
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:10.280
<v Speaker 15>But he could get a.

892
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:11.760
<v Speaker 18>Little you know, he'd get a little fired up for

893
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:12.239
<v Speaker 18>him too.

894
00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:13.519
<v Speaker 2>But yes, yes, in.

895
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:18.440
<v Speaker 18>Fact, we're gonna have him on that sad though. Yeah yeah, yeah,

896
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:20.719
<v Speaker 18>Now what did sit and pass away? Was it a

897
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:21.199
<v Speaker 18>heart attack?

898
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Ten years ago he died?

899
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:28.840
<v Speaker 4>Uh, he was diagnosed with cancer. Oh that's a cancer fighter,

900
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:31.920
<v Speaker 4>cancer survivor. Had a radio show, remember that talking about

901
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:33.639
<v Speaker 4>cancer fighters and yeah, and.

902
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:35.559
<v Speaker 3>Sadly rugby and for office.

903
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:38.960
<v Speaker 4>He was into rugby, rugby's coat, rugby men's rugby coach.

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00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:43.360
<v Speaker 4>Great guy was an advocate for just you know, young men,

905
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:46.400
<v Speaker 4>young people in general, and a real advocate for U

906
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:47.599
<v Speaker 4>of a love.

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00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:49.480
<v Speaker 2>He was fifty eight years old. I think it was

908
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:52.679
<v Speaker 2>ten years ago, fourteen ish. Yeah, yeah, good guy. I

909
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:55.360
<v Speaker 2>had just written a story about him. Was passing for

910
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:57.960
<v Speaker 2>his Tucson. No, No, that's that brought that brought those

911
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:00.000
<v Speaker 2>memories up. Yeah, they were together, they were a tandem.

912
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I in fact, when I traveled with the team and

913
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:04.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, and didn't have want to rent a car.

914
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I traveled with them in the back seat, and all

915
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.239
<v Speaker 2>the stories I heard, the stories I heard, are you

916
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:13.199
<v Speaker 2>great stories. In fact, in one of my books, Bob

917
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Elliott talks about his time playing for U of A

918
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:19.400
<v Speaker 2>at Utah. It was not a good not a good time.

919
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Bomb threats, bomb threats, things like that. It was crazy.

920
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:25.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have Bob, but I think doctor j h

921
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<v Speaker 2>in early next week. Okay, that's what I was. Check

922
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:29.119
<v Speaker 2>it out.

923
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:31.960
<v Speaker 18>See that's before. So that's before the Pac twelve took over. Right,

924
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:34.960
<v Speaker 18>The school kind of had their local announcers that they

925
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:39.400
<v Speaker 18>had and yeah, yeah, maybe they kind of started.

926
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<v Speaker 2>No, that's that's exactly it. They transitioned into what we

927
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:43.239
<v Speaker 2>see today.

928
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:44.800
<v Speaker 3>And great.

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00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:46.920
<v Speaker 4>I love all those uf A guys that come in

930
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:49.639
<v Speaker 4>and they know the game. Corey Williams, Corey Williams, they're

931
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:51.079
<v Speaker 4>all they're all good, they're insight.

932
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Don't forget this too. It's a coach. Larson was part

933
00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:58.840
<v Speaker 2>of that group. Oh man, you talk about old school,

934
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:01.719
<v Speaker 2>You're right. They were talking like to the mid eighties.

935
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:04.679
<v Speaker 2>Dave Silver would know about that because it was Larston

936
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:07.639
<v Speaker 2>sitting and Bob ail you like a three sume every

937
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:10.400
<v Speaker 2>now interchangeable kind of good time.

938
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:12.679
<v Speaker 18>We've been like PAC twelve guys, I miss I'm gonna

939
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:14.480
<v Speaker 18>sound like I said, once again, get off the long guy.

940
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:15.679
<v Speaker 18>But now it's ESPN.

941
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:17.599
<v Speaker 15>Plus and how I have seen maybe two.

942
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:20.280
<v Speaker 18>Seconds of women's basketball backed you know, PAC twelve network,

943
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.559
<v Speaker 18>nothing on Hey, let's watch if I got to hunt

944
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:24.639
<v Speaker 18>this stuff out now on ESPN Plus and I forget

945
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:26.800
<v Speaker 18>about it, you know, so you're gonna put you of

946
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:30.079
<v Speaker 18>a on a quote regular channel. I've seen maybe three

947
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:31.760
<v Speaker 18>games of the men's but I've already seen the women.

948
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:32.840
<v Speaker 18>That's what I liked to buy.

949
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:33.239
<v Speaker 15>Pack twelve.

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00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:35.679
<v Speaker 18>You could throw it on Oregon, State, Washington and nothing else.

951
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:37.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't let me check this out a while. You know,

952
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:39.920
<v Speaker 2>it's funny because everyone was everyone bitched about, you know,

953
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:42.960
<v Speaker 2>the PAC twelve network and yeaha YadA, no oh, go ahead.

954
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:45.159
<v Speaker 3>Everybody misses it. What's going on?

955
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:45.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I.

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00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:49.400
<v Speaker 18>Figure you guys would like to reminisce the old school there,

957
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:50.440
<v Speaker 18>man's that's what I give you.

958
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:51.880
<v Speaker 2>We're going to have, like I said, we're gonna have

959
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Bob Elliott and then Doctor Jay. I think at some

960
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:56.559
<v Speaker 2>point next week because the show was on Thursday, a

961
00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:59.039
<v Speaker 2>week from a week from yesterday. Thanks Garry.

962
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:02.079
<v Speaker 4>I appreciate it, and ask him some of those stories

963
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:03.039
<v Speaker 4>that he was talking about.

964
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:04.079
<v Speaker 3>We'll see what.

965
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, cool, Thanks Gary, appreciate it. That's that's a good call. Yeah,

966
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:10.599
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna be on next week. I'm not sure what

967
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:12.679
<v Speaker 2>day it's going to be. The show that they're doing

968
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:17.440
<v Speaker 2>is going to be Thursday. Uh, Pealaberni High School. I

969
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:18.679
<v Speaker 2>don't want to miss stave us.

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00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:19.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you don't have to.

971
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:20.760
<v Speaker 4>You have to put it on your web on your

972
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Facebook pages and remind everybody now that Dave Sitton was

973
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:27.639
<v Speaker 4>a great guy. Centurion I him in centurions and just

974
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:30.079
<v Speaker 4>just loved you have a loved being.

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00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:30.800
<v Speaker 15>Uh.

976
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:31.159
<v Speaker 1>He was.

977
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:34.559
<v Speaker 2>He was the community, you know. He he cared about the.

978
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:36.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah he was. Those guys come across every once.

979
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:38.400
<v Speaker 2>This guy totally.

980
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:40.840
<v Speaker 4>He could you ever seen You'd see him seeing brown

981
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:43.000
<v Speaker 4>eyed girl at the golf tournament or something his old

982
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:44.039
<v Speaker 4>school Tucson back.

983
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:44.280
<v Speaker 3>In the day.

984
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:45.800
<v Speaker 2>That's a good call. I kind of remember.

985
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:46.280
<v Speaker 3>Thanks Gary.

986
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Way to go, Gary, reminisce about that stuff.

987
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:49.840
<v Speaker 4>These old guys here now thinking about it. I've got

988
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.159
<v Speaker 4>to Steve's got a tear in his eye.

989
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Mister softy you know, and and Bob when he did

990
00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:57.559
<v Speaker 2>it for a long time, he'd come up with some praises,

991
00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:01.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, some praises like what the hell is that?

992
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:01.679
<v Speaker 10>That was that?

993
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:03.280
<v Speaker 2>And then I'm sure when he did it with Coach

994
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:05.840
<v Speaker 2>with Larsen, I think Larson probably said you're not playing

995
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:10.280
<v Speaker 2>anymore because he was just very straightforward, right straightforward, and

996
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:12.360
<v Speaker 2>he recently passed I think with the last five years.

997
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:15.559
<v Speaker 3>You know, I love guys like Gary.

998
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:17.920
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's it's old school and that's okay, that's

999
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:19.159
<v Speaker 4>that's why, that's why we're fans.

1000
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:21.199
<v Speaker 2>Right. We were talking about this before the show started,

1001
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:23.480
<v Speaker 2>because you know, I'm looking for for advertisings and blah

1002
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:26.559
<v Speaker 2>blah blah. But most of my listeners are are not

1003
00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:30.440
<v Speaker 2>our age. But it's similar, similar over thirty five kind

1004
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.760
<v Speaker 2>of have those stories. Besides, Nico can call in every

1005
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:33.760
<v Speaker 2>now and give us a grief.

1006
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:35.199
<v Speaker 3>I know, I like when Nico calls.

1007
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:36.960
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, you got a loyal audience, and you know,

1008
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:40.280
<v Speaker 4>so if you're an advertiser out there, Steve's audience is loyal.

1009
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:43.880
<v Speaker 4>They listen every day, they tune in, and you have

1010
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:45.239
<v Speaker 4>money and they do.

1011
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:49.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, It's funny because you know, this better me.

1012
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:53.039
<v Speaker 2>Because you're in advertising, people are directing their audience to

1013
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:56.840
<v Speaker 2>the younger crowd. Right, crowd didn't have any money. They're

1014
00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:59.159
<v Speaker 2>trying to make a family and pay the kids, and

1015
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:00.000
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah.

1016
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:03.039
<v Speaker 4>Wanted some discretionary income because you wanted an audience with

1017
00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:04.079
<v Speaker 4>some discretionary income.

1018
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:08.679
<v Speaker 2>Hey, Mildred, if you want a new four there's one

1019
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:10.000
<v Speaker 2>on radio show.

1020
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Right now. So that's what you get. I think that

1021
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:15.360
<v Speaker 3>that's exactly why we're fans.

1022
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:18.119
<v Speaker 4>You know, we've talked about it through throughout is you know,

1023
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:20.440
<v Speaker 4>people want to be loyal to the school and and

1024
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:22.960
<v Speaker 4>they are, and Dave represented that and he and he

1025
00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:25.559
<v Speaker 4>encouraged that, and and there's lifelong fans like us.

1026
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:28.199
<v Speaker 2>You You're you're paying for the Arizona on the front,

1027
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:32.119
<v Speaker 2>not that the teams in the back, because come on, Lions, Lions,

1028
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:34.159
<v Speaker 2>I can throw the names out and they've come and

1029
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:36.400
<v Speaker 2>gone right with the people that are still buying tickets

1030
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:38.519
<v Speaker 2>have been there for a long time buying those tickets

1031
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:41.280
<v Speaker 2>because they want to see the people play for their school.

1032
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1033
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:44.199
<v Speaker 4>And I think that the wh when people get they

1034
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:46.239
<v Speaker 4>get sideways a little bit. That the products changed a

1035
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:48.760
<v Speaker 4>little bit, the products changed, and maybe that's a better

1036
00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:50.400
<v Speaker 4>way to say that rather than the loyalty to the

1037
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:53.119
<v Speaker 4>school is the product has changed and people just have

1038
00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:55.320
<v Speaker 4>to figure that out and how they're going to interact

1039
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:55.519
<v Speaker 4>with that.

1040
00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Right, no matter how this team finishes this year in

1041
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:00.880
<v Speaker 2>the tournament, guess what the school is going to be

1042
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:04.519
<v Speaker 2>twelve thirteen, fourteen thousand next year, cheering them on again.

1043
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:07.119
<v Speaker 3>Every year, it's just what did they do? Just what

1044
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:10.559
<v Speaker 3>they do? No, So yes, those thanks Gary for for

1045
00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:12.719
<v Speaker 3>bringing that up. Let me let me ask you, because

1046
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:13.960
<v Speaker 3>you're you're a little younger than me.

1047
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:17.599
<v Speaker 2>Uh, when I say good old days for college basketball,

1048
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:19.079
<v Speaker 2>what comes to mind?

1049
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:21.920
<v Speaker 19>First thing for Tuson for for U A basketball, for

1050
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.159
<v Speaker 19>u A basketball is uh, when Ludolston shows up and

1051
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:27.840
<v Speaker 19>Shawn Elliott, So, Sean Elliott and I are the same age,

1052
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:33.280
<v Speaker 19>same grade, SOI eighty five, eighty six, when they you know,

1053
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:35.719
<v Speaker 19>after Ben lindsay, So that's the good old days for me.

1054
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:37.519
<v Speaker 4>That's the start of the good old days. And it

1055
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:44.440
<v Speaker 4>probably ends right around with Bobby one and that run

1056
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:47.320
<v Speaker 4>to the finals, and then that's kind of that. So

1057
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<v Speaker 4>that fifteen sixteen year era is the good old days.

1058
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:52.679
<v Speaker 4>Not that teams haven't been great since, or they weren't

1059
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:54.440
<v Speaker 4>great before, right, But that.

1060
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:56.599
<v Speaker 3>In my mind is in my era.

1061
00:45:56.920 --> 00:45:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Well this maybe have a call or two. We have

1062
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:01.679
<v Speaker 2>about six minut in this thing. What were the good

1063
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:04.000
<v Speaker 2>old days for you guys, because we're not going to

1064
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:06.159
<v Speaker 2>have a breaking news segment in the first hour. We're

1065
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:08.639
<v Speaker 2>going to go to Peabody at four seventeen, so we'll

1066
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:11.079
<v Speaker 2>have the next few minutes to talk about that good

1067
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:13.880
<v Speaker 2>old days of college basketball for U of A. Because

1068
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:17.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure people thought when Bob was playing in the mid.

1069
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:19.519
<v Speaker 4>Seven Snowden, you know, yeah, they had they had a

1070
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:21.679
<v Speaker 4>good run there, and you know, and then there's the

1071
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:23.320
<v Speaker 4>bad old days, the Ben Lindsay days.

1072
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:25.320
<v Speaker 3>But I mean there's been more good days than bad.

1073
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:28.000
<v Speaker 2>The good thing is only there weren't many days of that.

1074
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:30.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, Cedric saw early that, you know, get these.

1075
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:33.880
<v Speaker 5>Guys out of here, right, So yeah, I think how

1076
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:35.400
<v Speaker 5>old were you in eighty two eighty three?

1077
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:37.639
<v Speaker 3>I was born in sixty six, so I was sixteen

1078
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:38.519
<v Speaker 3>seventeen years old.

1079
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Did you remember much of those miserable days?

1080
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:40.960
<v Speaker 1>You know?

1081
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:42.079
<v Speaker 2>I had you pay attention.

1082
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:43.519
<v Speaker 3>I was more into football then.

1083
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:45.400
<v Speaker 4>I thought I wanted to be a football player at

1084
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:47.199
<v Speaker 4>ninety eight pounds and six three.

1085
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:49.239
<v Speaker 3>You know, I was a cross country kids told me

1086
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:49.880
<v Speaker 3>the ball.

1087
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:51.360
<v Speaker 5>You know.

1088
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:53.960
<v Speaker 4>So I just remember kind of that dismal four and

1089
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:56.440
<v Speaker 4>twenty four season that that rises to the top for me.

1090
00:46:56.599 --> 00:46:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Have I told you my story about Benci. I've never

1091
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:00.920
<v Speaker 2>met them man, never met the man. So I was

1092
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:03.079
<v Speaker 2>writing my third book. It's the box Book, the cool

1093
00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:05.599
<v Speaker 2>box book with the bunch crap in it. So it

1094
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:09.199
<v Speaker 2>turned out to be fabulous in my mind. It still is.

1095
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:11.559
<v Speaker 2>I love that book. So when it came out, maybe

1096
00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:13.840
<v Speaker 2>the first two months, I get a call from my publisher.

1097
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:15.719
<v Speaker 2>You've never heard the story. No, okay, so you never

1098
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:17.280
<v Speaker 2>had a story, but I've told it a few times.

1099
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:19.280
<v Speaker 2>So I get a call from my publisher. He's kind

1100
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:22.360
<v Speaker 2>of upset me, said, Steve, I have an issue. We

1101
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.719
<v Speaker 2>got a caller in our Atlanta office we were publishing,

1102
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:29.360
<v Speaker 2>saying that you had a big factual error on page

1103
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:32.840
<v Speaker 2>twelve whatever it was eighteen about the program, and it

1104
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:34.599
<v Speaker 2>kind of diminishes the value of the book. You know.

1105
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:36.960
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like, has this thing. I'm thinking, what

1106
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:39.880
<v Speaker 2>are you talking about? There's not We look through that

1107
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:42.800
<v Speaker 2>thing and we find comed it blah blah blah, and

1108
00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:44.719
<v Speaker 2>it says what is it? He says, well, it says

1109
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:46.960
<v Speaker 2>here that they it was the worst time of Arizona

1110
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:50.239
<v Speaker 2>basketball in decades. They went four and twenty four. And says, well,

1111
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:53.920
<v Speaker 2>that's factual. I mean, that's what it was. And who

1112
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:56.599
<v Speaker 2>could be complaining? He says, well, some guy named Ben Lindsay.

1113
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:01.159
<v Speaker 2>And I said the sense he was the coach at

1114
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:02.960
<v Speaker 2>the time. He's trying to defend himself.

1115
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:05.880
<v Speaker 4>Everything's okay, it's the worst maybe you know, top three

1116
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:07.360
<v Speaker 4>worst times, not the worst.

1117
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:09.679
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's probably the worst.

1118
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:11.760
<v Speaker 3>It's probably is for sure.

1119
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:14.199
<v Speaker 2>Right, So that's it said, Oh, never mind, I'm okay,

1120
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:15.559
<v Speaker 2>You're okay. The book's gonna do fight.

1121
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:16.559
<v Speaker 3>He's gonna get sued.

1122
00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's gonna get sued, right yeah, maikes. Sense, So

1123
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:21.000
<v Speaker 2>it is what it is.

1124
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:22.920
<v Speaker 3>So what's coming up next time? You got? You and

1125
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:24.239
<v Speaker 3>Jay are no?

1126
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, later in the later in the hour, Jay's

1127
00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:28.360
<v Speaker 2>gonna call him with his picks and my picks for

1128
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:31.360
<v Speaker 2>the final week. Uh. And then that four seventeen, we're

1129
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:35.079
<v Speaker 2>gonna have Brian Peabody calling his PEMA undefeated team. See

1130
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:37.880
<v Speaker 2>what what the status is with his team? He he

1131
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:39.679
<v Speaker 2>had a hard time maybe two three years ago with

1132
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:41.920
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of knuckleheads that he kind of just you know,

1133
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:44.360
<v Speaker 2>you know when you have that year. Uh, and now

1134
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:45.760
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of returned to it.

1135
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:50.480
<v Speaker 4>He as he has many many uh triumphant returns. And

1136
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:52.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, and he coached high school here for some time,

1137
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:56.760
<v Speaker 4>and you know, and and and was he I know

1138
00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:59.760
<v Speaker 4>he coached high school and and South Point and and

1139
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:00.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, so he.

1140
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Often rises to the top.

1141
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:05.679
<v Speaker 4>It's not an uncommon story for him to be in

1142
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:07.280
<v Speaker 4>the fad or have one or two lives.

1143
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:08.559
<v Speaker 2>I know, he's gonna tell me. I was asking him

1144
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:10.639
<v Speaker 2>how many wins and losses you most? Do you? I

1145
00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:13.239
<v Speaker 2>don't care he cares about I know it does. Yeah,

1146
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:14.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't.

1147
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:17.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, suret. I'm gonna look it up and we'll see yea, yeah,

1148
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:19.800
<v Speaker 3>google it. Okay.

1149
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:21.960
<v Speaker 2>So so that said, if you guys want to call

1150
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:23.719
<v Speaker 2>in the next hour, now that we're ready out of

1151
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:25.960
<v Speaker 2>time in this hour, what were the good old days

1152
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:28.480
<v Speaker 2>for you? Uh, that's a good stretch. That's a long

1153
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:30.679
<v Speaker 2>stretch for you. Sixteen sixteen years maybe they were.

1154
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:31.000
<v Speaker 3>They were good.

1155
00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:34.079
<v Speaker 4>You know, it seemed like every four years they went

1156
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:36.039
<v Speaker 4>to the door. We went to the four, and they

1157
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:37.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, they would, they would, They were going to

1158
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:38.480
<v Speaker 4>the termin all the time.

1159
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:39.480
<v Speaker 3>And then every once in a while they make a

1160
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:40.559
<v Speaker 3>run to the final four.

1161
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:44.679
<v Speaker 2>And you think, like like Josh Passner in ninety seven, Dad,

1162
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:47.239
<v Speaker 2>we're headed to the final four. Look how easy it is.

1163
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:48.760
<v Speaker 2>That's happen all the time.

1164
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:50.519
<v Speaker 4>You really thought, you know, Khalid Reeves, that we're going

1165
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:52.400
<v Speaker 4>to go every couple of years. Yeah, it seemed like

1166
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:54.679
<v Speaker 4>every senior had a run when they got to.

1167
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:57.239
<v Speaker 2>That, and you haven't been there in almost twenty five.

1168
00:49:57.400 --> 00:49:59.360
<v Speaker 3>It's it can happen fast.

1169
00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:02.400
<v Speaker 2>It does years and half five years, a couple of

1170
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:05.840
<v Speaker 2>ball bounces, and you go back in twenty fourteen to

1171
00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:10.480
<v Speaker 2>fifteen when they played Wisconsin, but and and Duke in

1172
00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:12.119
<v Speaker 2>twenty eleven.

1173
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:14.119
<v Speaker 4>Ish, you're just twisting the knifef you ever, you know,

1174
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:15.440
<v Speaker 4>we're talking about your audience here.

1175
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:17.079
<v Speaker 5>You're just twisting and I had to get the tea

1176
00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:20.679
<v Speaker 5>out of my you're just twisting the knife.

1177
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:23.559
<v Speaker 2>Eventually they'll get back. I thought Sean would get him there.

1178
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:28.639
<v Speaker 2>It didn't happen. But that's for another day. That's that's yeah,

1179
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:32.079
<v Speaker 2>that's another day. That's for your Saturday, Tommy. We'll see

1180
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:34.239
<v Speaker 2>if Tommy can do it. I don't know.

1181
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:38.239
<v Speaker 4>You know, the road got tougher, The road got tougher,

1182
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:42.119
<v Speaker 4>but it feels better. Aaron was talking about these coaches

1183
00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:44.599
<v Speaker 4>that are I think Tommy's figured it out. He's figured

1184
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:48.639
<v Speaker 4>out how to talk to his kids, and they're making

1185
00:50:48.679 --> 00:50:51.159
<v Speaker 4>a nice run and he's around. You know, he's a

1186
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:52.280
<v Speaker 4>good coach. He's going to be around.

1187
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got some play. When you're with a coach

1188
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:58.199
<v Speaker 2>at this time in your life or this time of era,

1189
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:01.960
<v Speaker 2>kids want to play and want to play with no restrictions,

1190
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:04.039
<v Speaker 2>if that makes any sense. Uh the half court? Did

1191
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:07.559
<v Speaker 2>you see what don don Crony Cronin did at U

1192
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:10.239
<v Speaker 2>c A. He just rouped into his time. Oh I

1193
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:12.880
<v Speaker 2>did see that. And how are you gonna play for

1194
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:13.280
<v Speaker 2>a kid like?

1195
00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:14.519
<v Speaker 3>You know?

1196
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:17.960
<v Speaker 4>It's you know that that we could do a whole

1197
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:20.920
<v Speaker 4>show on coaching and respect and you know and and

1198
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:23.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, but Aaron talked about these kids are you know,

1199
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:27.199
<v Speaker 4>they're they're they're making some cash. They have a decision,

1200
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:28.639
<v Speaker 4>they can make it. They can they can leave in

1201
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:30.239
<v Speaker 4>a heartbeat at the end of the season.

1202
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:32.719
<v Speaker 2>So with that, we're gonna go and come back,
