Speaker 1: Yo, what is up? Boys? How's it going? And welcome
back to another episode of the Rant Cafe, not ran Cafe,
the One Piece Virgin Podcast. How many times am I
gonna do that?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: Technically I've been uploading the One Piece Virgin to ran
Cafe as well anyway, so it's all the same thing.
It's all this, It's all one podcast right right right
with me. Today we have a special guest, the anime
Dude aka Charles Black. How you doing?
Speaker 3: Not so special? But I guess I am a guest,
so welcome everybody.
Speaker 1: You are a special guest gaber here, and we have
the One Piece Virgin herself, Poseidon Mythos, how you doing?
Speaker 2: Hi? I am doing good. I am I'm ready to yap.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, always ready to yeah yeah. Here we are
covering Alabasta today. All right, we're turning the first half
the first half of Alabasta roughly roughly okay, Poseidon, general
thoughts so far? How you like? And it we finally
made it here.
Speaker 4: I actually, I'll be honest, I was kind of like
going into this knowing that it was gonna be a
longer arc.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say dreading it.
Speaker 4: I feel like that's a little bit extreme, but I
was kind of like, oh, okay, it's gonna take a while,
but I've actually thoroughly enjoyed my time in Alabasta with
the Straw Hats. So I just finished up the episode
where they finally managed to get out of the casino.
Speaker 2: So it's been fun. I've I've been actually enjoying it
quite a lot.
Speaker 1: So were they in like the prison in the casino?
Is that is that where you ended off? Okay, got it? Okay, yes, yes,
they were like being held up and the banana gators
or whatever, crocodile being a mafia villain. Okay, okay, So yeah,
that's about the halfway point. So so far, you're enjoying it.
I do think it's like this is still the build
up of the arc, like right, like things are just
starting to go down, things are starting to happen. But
like you said, like you're enjoying it because at the
end of the day, just seeing the Straw Hats and
vv interact is always fun, at least for me.
Speaker 4: My gosh, I honestly, I've come to love VB so
much more, like as I continue to watch, so I'm
really excited to see what happens, because I know the
second part it's gonna be a huge thing. All this
build up starting like from when they enter the Grand
Line is finally gonna like pay off here.
Speaker 2: So I'm excited.
Speaker 1: So they finally land on Alabasta, and they stop in
a town for supplies first, and they run into two individuals.
I don't know if you remember who I'm talking about here, Poseidon.
Speaker 4: Ah, Well, there was a lot of characters, like they
stopped at a lot of town.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also true. The first talent they run into
Ace and Smoker. How did you feel about that?
Speaker 2: So? Oh my god. I honestly, Ace is so silly.
Speaker 4: He's just another loofy but maybe a little stronger and
a little smart and.
Speaker 1: A little more mature.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's he's so he can be dumb sometimes, and.
Speaker 2: I loved him.
Speaker 4: I'm always excited to see Smoker. I think up to
this point, Smoker still has my favorite double fruit. And
I also just him and Tashigi's uh interactions always cracked
me up.
Speaker 2: So yeah, how about you?
Speaker 1: How about you, Jordan? The first town it was, it
was it was pretty simple, but you get to meet
Ace for the first time, not the first time, because
technically you saw him like a little flashback during Drum Island, right,
but this is the first like real interaction.
Speaker 3: With this first time we're actually seeing him, actually getting
an interaction with him. I forgot how uh how brief
it was in the manga as far as uh you know,
he he interacts with Lufy, gives him the V break card. Uh,
he blows up all those baroque work ships, and then
he's out of there. Like I believe every other part
of him being in Alabasta, Like if you've seen him
in the desert and stuff, I think that's anime only.
So I really I can't really speak to those quite
as well.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't really remember those interesting. Yeah, the
pacing in the manga is definitely a lot faster, and
it feels like a lot of the moments that I
love from the anime are just so quick in the manga,
which is a good thing and a bad thing at times. Right,
One thing I do want to say about eighth, it's
so funny when you get introduced to such a badass
and strong character, like we know he's the second division
commander of the of the White Beer Pirates, and we
saw how he took out whatever, the millions or the
fucking billions, so that he's o P strong as fuck.
But his first inter interaction is him falling asleep. He's
falling asleep while having dinner or having like whatever, eating food,
and everyone thinks he dies. Like such a silly introduction.
I think it works well for Lufi's brother.
Speaker 3: Is that not something we all do every every now
and again?
Speaker 1: With his with his fucking yeah, dude, after I eat,
I need a nap, honestly, but like dude, like literally
like his hands still up in the air with the food.
Everyone thinks he dies and it's hilarious.
Speaker 3: Or was it like a desert strawberry must have gotten
or something? The poor soul. They were genuinely worried for him.
Speaker 1: And then beside it, you have to see two logios
go at it. You got smoker versus Ace, fire versus smoke.
It was kind of just like a stalemate.
Speaker 2: That was cool.
Speaker 4: I actually, like, prior to this, had no idea that
Ace was also a double fruit holder. I think I
think out of all the devil fruits, I really like
the ones that like turn into elements.
Speaker 2: So I really loved that little interaction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially at this point in the series, logas seem unstoppable.
They seem so overpowered, and they are to a certain extent.
But when you have two logas like like fire and
smoke going at it, it just kind of like blew
up the town and nothing happened. It was a stale
mate and they escaped, which was cool. Loofy had a
lot of silly moments in this town, like he got lost.
But then their their plan right now is they're trying
to locate the Revolutionary Army, right, so they stopped in
this town to get supplies and then they're moving on
to to like the next town or whatever it is.
And they had the journey the journey there, and there
was some funny moments along the journey. Don't know if
there's anything you want to talk about here or either
of you.
Speaker 4: I think Loofy going a little manic during just the
traveling par where he's like I'm hungry, I'm thirsty, and
just like kind of going crazy. I think one of
my favorite, like when something that comes to mind right away,
one of my favorite little moments was I believe he
was drinking. Was it like a cactus some sort of
plant and it had like hallucinigenics or some hallucination something
on it, and he starts just like losing it. Yeah,
touch Everybody's like, Loofy, why would you why would you
eat that?
Speaker 2: Why would you drink that? And he's just over here
losing his mind.
Speaker 1: Sometimes like the chill moments, the calm before the storm.
The comedy is some of the best parts of one piece.
It was just such a roller coaster when it goes
from like Loofy's like hungry and tired and then loses
the food to fucking birds that scammed him, and then
he's getting chased with a camel and a fucking salamander
or whatever the hell, like desert salamander and they fought
it and ate it, and then like like then the
fucking camel's like, oh, I only carry women. Like it
was just like what was the camel's namesh eyelash, eyelash,
what a macho camel? Fucking sanji if he was really
targeted as a camel. And then he eats a cactus
cause he's thirsty and he gets high and he thinks
a tsunami. Then he falls asleep and then Chopper fuck,
like it's just like a roller coaster of like bullshit
along the way. It's so fun.
Speaker 4: It's like Nami and BB are like sitting on the
camel just like rolling their eyes their antics and Sanji
and you stop having to deal with it.
Speaker 2: Had a great time.
Speaker 3: It is definitely one of those things where like the
the crew dynamics and like the characters themselves are so
strong in one piece that even though a lot of
those funny moments, there's some of them that aren't even
in the manga, but like they're able to bring it
to life on screen and have it feel so natural
just because it's so well defined right between those character members.
Speaker 1: And oh yeah, I feel like VV feels like a
member of the crew so early on, even with her
stupidity at times, like not warning the crew about the
birds and the scamming, or like she meets bond Clay,
which we have to talk about bomb I have mentioned
bond Clay and get her get her thoughts, but like
she meets Bond Clay and she's like, oh damn, I
never knew he was mister two. Meanwhile, it's like he
was described with a ballerina with a pink flamingo coat
or whatever. It's like, how the fuck did you not know.
Speaker 3: That says this specific phrase, Like, yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: So ridiculous, Like I fucking love VV but becided bond Clay.
How are you feeling about that?
Speaker 2: Honestly?
Speaker 4: His character is so ridiculous. Honest he is very dangerous
as well.
Speaker 2: Like being able to mimic other people's.
Speaker 4: Bodies is such a powerful thing. Oh yeah, I could
just pretend to be somebody else and copy their voice
and everything. I think that is so so threatening. But
his character himself, I think is so dumb. He's just
like he just wants to dance. He just wants to
show off and flaunt himself. But when he needs to
do the job, he will do it. And for that
I do I think out of all the number of agents,
he's probably up there for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like bon Clay a lot, nice at least
right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 3: So you said you liked it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think everyone loves Bonclay. But for
the this is just the first half of Alabasta. So
it's a good sign that you like Bonclay. But at
the end of the day, Blonclay is an enemy and
a powerful one. You saw the way that he fought
mister Wan and could hold his own with his Oh yeah,
with his fighting style. He's powerful, he dangerous. But he's
introduced as a friend at first, which is very interesting
because we didn't know that he was mister two, even
though VV should have fucking known.
Speaker 3: And you can tell he's kind of a good guy
as far as like the reason he thought Mister one, right,
like Mister One threw hands with a few of his
of his crew members, and he's like, hey, that's not cool.
You know, I'll throw hands with you even if you're
a number above me, right, yeah.
Speaker 4: You can even I remember him even being so grateful
when the straw hats like him from the water.
Speaker 2: He's like, you guys saved my life.
Speaker 4: I will be forever grateful for you, and like he
was even entertaining them and stuff like that. So yeah,
I honestly, his personality is great. I don't I want
to think at this point like he's a bad guy
just because he's part of baroque. But I think deep
down he might, you know, have some sort of heart.
Speaker 2: But I guess we'll just have to watch and.
Speaker 3: Find you're basing that off of what I said. I
like the more and like every series I read, so
I'm a villain's guy. Crocodile is my favorite character in
One Piece. Oh really, future pirate king right there.
Speaker 1: I think Crocodile is a great villain. And we'll get
into that in a second. I'm trying to go I'm
trying to guide us like Nami chronologically a little bit.
I'm trying to remember what happened next, so they start
moving on to the next area. And what were those
fucking little guys called those little karate gongs do gongs?
The do Gong?
Speaker 3: I love those, like I forgot about the hiking bear
like last for Drum Island, and you know, hiking bear
is great, but I remember the Kunclue do Gongs. Those
were like the best animals in One Piece. They were
willing to follow him, and he, as apprentice.
Speaker 1: To the end decided, what do you think about the
do gongs? They were They're so cute.
Speaker 2: They were very cute.
Speaker 4: I mean, I have, like I just I just have
like an affinity for cute looking things. So I feel
like every single cute looking animal that has come.
Speaker 2: To one I have just been like, I want to
plash you.
Speaker 1: So I feel like if if Poseidon was a pirate,
the Dugongs would be part of the crew.
Speaker 3: That's what I thought. As soon as uh like, are
they native to this land? And they're like no, they
live in the sea. I'm like, just bring them with you,
like they can swim, they can.
Speaker 1: I understand not wanting them to come through the desert
with you when like they're literally like water is scarce
and food is scarce and all that. But it's just
so funny. Goes to challenge them, gets his ass kicked
and punches them out, and then right away they're just
like they're like practicing their punching music. No, not like that,
like this like this, it's like, I fucking love one piece, dude.
It's a little things. It's the little things, man. And
then they were they arrive in the it's not the
capital city, but it's like it takes this town that
they wanted to be like this. It was a big
thing for for Alabasta, right and it was completely deserted.
It was all covered in sand and it just one
old man there digging a hole. Poseidon, if I don't
know if you either of you want to take it
from here, Yes.
Speaker 4: So I believe this also was around the time where
we do get a little context on Vb's past because
that old man is involved with her at some point
in her past.
Speaker 1: I think his name is Toto. Guys, I might remember
one name in one piece.
Speaker 4: I can never I always get this character. It's not Couson,
because I know that's a different character.
Speaker 1: Cosca Cosa Coosa.
Speaker 4: There we go for some reason, I keep thinking Couson.
But we get context on who Kosa is. You know,
he went to the king when he was younger, was
trying to fight for the people, and you know, the
king offered him and Toto his dad basically sanctuary at
his palace, and Kosa and BV become become friends, and
we learned that Koza is the leader of the revolutionary army,
and you know, the the dad is now at this town.
I believe it was an oasis, right, Yeah, it was
supposed and we get context you know the how the kingdom,
I guess, hasn't been helping out with like the water
there's no rain. Thus, like the oasis dried up and
now Toto is here digging trying to find some sort
of water down there. But yeah, that was honestly, like
kind of sad to see where things have gone with
the kingdom. You know, people are suffering. You know, town's
getting abandoned, and it's now VV is seeing what's been
going on, like while she's been away, it's just gotten
so much worse. And you know, now she's just like,
we need to fix this. Now, we need a fight, Crocodile.
We need to take down.
Speaker 2: Baroque works before they destroy the entire kingdom.
Speaker 4: And I think that was kind of a like, I
don't want to say turning point, but now you know,
things are getting really serious. It's not just affecting just
like one or a small group of people. This is
affecting an entire country m hm. And now the Straw
has have to figure out how they can save an
entire country.
Speaker 2: Now it's not just a town.
Speaker 1: And it's a really tough situation. So the whole reason
VV was trying to get to the oasis was to
stop the revolutionary army. So do you understand Crocodile's little
master plan here?
Speaker 2: Yes, he's trying to get the people right to.
Speaker 1: Turn against him, to turn against the king.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I turn against the king.
Speaker 1: And so basically he's trying to calluse like a civil
war so that they could kind of take out each
other and then he would probably swoop in or I
don't know what his exact planet. I don't want to
spoil anything, kind of I don't remember exactly, but like
he's trying to get them to fight each other turn
on the king. He's like the hero right now, right
he like saves people from pirates and stuff like that,
and he's gonna, I guess, might try try to take over,
right m That's.
Speaker 3: One of my favorite things about Alabasta as an arch
is it's one of the first ones where we like
kind of zoom out to the macro of the entire
kingdom and leading up to it, you know, you're on
a ship and we have just the the crew of
themselves and they're dealing with supply issues because you know,
while you think you'd have like a small elite number
of people on a crew, that'd be one of the
big benefits is you don't have supply issues. But Luthy's
a glutton and an idiot, so Soanji's like, I have
to walk from my fridge, So like we're about to
starve out here. Let's get the duck hang him overboard.
Try to fish with him or something, but they're they're
trying not to starve out there. But then you get
to the Kingdom of Alabasta, and most of the little
sub points we've talked about thus far are them dealing with,
like the supply issues and the economics of the kingdom.
People starving, people having to deal with the famine and
drought caused from the dance powder, which is a cool
little thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jordan, what a great point. I feel like I've
noticed this in other arcs later on, which I don't know,
I'm not going to get into, but like I do
find like the little things that the crew is dealing
with on the way ends up attaching to the story.
So in this case, it's like they're dealing with scarcity
of food and with lack of water or whatever, and
they're hungry and all that, and then that's what the
fucking civilians of Alabast has been dealing with for the
last fucking three years and all part of Crocodile's master plan.
Speaker 3: It was exactly That's my favorite. For Yeah, villain Man,
him and bone Clay are over there playing politics and
like additionally inducing these uh, these conflicts within the kingdom
by like affecting the supply chain and as soon as
you meet bone Clay like him changing faces. The crew
was like, that's not good. But considering he could, you know,
act like the king or whatever, that could be very
bad politically. But I don't know, It's just it's a
very well done arc.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love to see it.
Speaker 1: I love I love hearing different people's like perspectives on it,
and so great.
Speaker 4: I was about to say, like, now that you say that, like,
now I'm realizing, Wow, Like what a great villain Crocodile is.
Speaker 2: He's he's playing forty chess. Yeah, well everybody's playing.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not gonna spoil you on anything to
do with the second half of the arc yet, but
I will say you stopped right before my favorite episodes
of the series. Oh if they had ended there, I
I'm good. I'm I'm you know, like one piece would
have been a ten out of ten for me.
Speaker 2: M hmm.
Speaker 1: Like, well, next week we're definitely gonna cover not next week,
two weeks from now, we're gonna cover the rest of Alabasta.
And this was just a build up, right Obviously, we
still have some more to talk about. So what was
crazy is in the backstory we got to see that
Kosa was like defending Veg. They became such good friends,
and Toto was like so like devoted to the king
and the kingdom, and its just crazy to see him
all these years later, like he was so fat fat,
Oh my god, back in the day and now he's
like skinny and older and he's still digging. And then
what they calls he gives Loofy that little bit of
water for the hole that he dug, and then the
boys are on their way to the main city of
Alabasta Alabartna. Did I get I got that red? Am
I fucking doing it? Am I am? I getting names?
If only attacking was here?
Speaker 2: That sounds right.
Speaker 3: I believe that's right with how bad you are with names,
the fact that you remember Toto of all people, and
like you're walking.
Speaker 1: I love I just like such a good dad. And
then like and no matter, like literally like everything has
been painted like the pin Cobra as the bad guy,
right with the dance powder in the in the city,
found in the castle ruining, like the main city getting
all the rain and none of the other areas, like
all all the drought and the famine over three years. Literally,
Homie is starving to death and death and he still
believes in the king, like he's my goat, He's just
my goat man. But as they're leaving for Alabarna, we
get an interaction between Loofy and VV. I want to
hear what you guys have to think about that.
Speaker 3: As you know, I hate girls with blue hair, so.
Speaker 2: I have blue hair.
Speaker 3: VV is definitely an exception, you know, like she was
out there throwing hands, she was ready. I will say
I love that as well because with shonon in manga
and anime, like you know, there's always that idealistic aspect
to it where you always feel like things are probably
gonna work out, and you know, usually they do. But
VV is that stereotypical, idealistic princess that kind of was
a little bit sheltered growing up. She wants everything to
work out for everybody. She just wants everybody to talk
it out. And it's one of those things where she
understands where the source of the problem is, but she's
wanting to go a different route to avoid confronting that
directly because she doesn't want that conflict. She doesn't want
anybody around her to get hurt. She doesn't want to
there to be any repercussions there to the people she
cares about. And I don't know, it was such a
great interaction for Lucy just to say, hey, there's a
chance something can happen, but like you've got to be
willing to fight for it, but our lives on the
line as well. Where your friends were with you. I
don't want to ramble too much, but I think that's
one of the one of the highlight interactions of the
arc for sure.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about episoded?
Speaker 4: Just like getting like her getting basically the sense just
like slapped into her like this is the reality of things.
This is what it's going to take to try to
fix this.
Speaker 2: And you know, I was.
Speaker 4: Honestly surprised when I started that episode, you know how
like the announced like the title of the episode right
before you know, the whole book started.
Speaker 2: It was like, loofy versus VV versus VV, what is
happening here? But then you know, it was kind of
a wholesome moment.
Speaker 5: Hands are for everyone because I remember whenever I first
watched that and stuff, you always get the feeling that
Lucy's hands are rated D for everybody.
Speaker 3: Oh, you know, like everybody everybody right, Like when I
first watched that and like before you kind of like
put it into perspective, you're like, the hell did you?
Just the whole crew was like that too.
Speaker 1: They're like, whoa man, Well, yeah, but I cut you
off though to make that stupid joke. What were you
gonna say?
Speaker 4: No, It was a very just like wholesome moment between
the two, Like you know, Charles Black said, you know,
VV does have a very like idealistic she has a
solution in mind, but you know, things just don't work
out that way. That's not the reality of what you
know things are. So I think this was also a
huge turning point for VV, where she kind of was
just like, Okay, we're just gonna have to do whatever
it takes right.
Speaker 2: To try to fix this. There is no talking it out.
Speaker 4: There is know, like you know, somebody is gonna have
to get hurt in order for this to you know,
get resolved.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like VV is trying to go about it like
let's like talk to Kosa and like stop the Revolutionary
Army whatever. Like he's trying to avoid and save everyone,
and Lufy is just realism, Like realistically, crocodile is the
fucking problem and we're gonna have to fight him, and
like you're gonna have to trust us and like risk
our lives along with your life, Like you can't just
try to do it all yourself and try to save
everyone peacefully. Like and then they start like hitting each
other and like vv starts crying. It's such a it
goes from like emotional to wholesome to like what the
fuck is going on? Like it's I think it's a
good captain moment for Loofy, And Lufy is one of
those guys that just knows like who he needs to
take down, who he needs to fight in order to
solve whatever the problem is.
Speaker 3: Lufy is definitely one of those like stereotypical like wise idiots,
if that makes sense, where usually he's dumb as hell,
but like there's times where he's dumb as hell in
the way that kind of has a point where it's like, oh, like, okay,
he's seeing like the bigger picture here that he's looking
at the heart of the matter in a way that
most people might not write.
Speaker 4: One of the few serious moments Lufy has so far
in this arc, but Yeah, that honestly reminded me of
Barlong Park, where Lufy had a very similar moment with
Nammy where she was breaking down and all of that.
So yeah, Lufy, when he needs to get serious, he
will get serious and he will, you know, be real
with you. And I think that's what's so endearing about
his character.
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, speaking of Arlong Park and Nomy,
I like this just a little thing that doesn't it's
kind of irrelevant. When Ace gives the piece of paper
that had nothing on it to Lufy, just like Lufy.
Tommy saw that Lufy like kind of like felt like
the paper was important to him because it's his brothers.
And She's like, let me like sew it onto your hat,
like your other treasure, the other thing I know you're
gonna take care of. And I guess the fact that
Lufy's like so willing just to hand over his hat
and let NONI sew it into into like the ribbon
or whatever. It's just like, I don't know, just something,
the small thing that I appreciate.
Speaker 3: The only remember that's betrayed them thus far has like
the strongest bond to trust for them. Those two trust
each other so so much.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember what happened.
Speaker 3: From island too, Like they're like, you could die, but
she's like, I trust my captain, Like get me there
top of the mountain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true, right, what's it called? Lufy? No trust?
Trusted loofy to climb drum Island or like one of
the drums or whatever. And it was such a badass moment.
But Poseidon, I'm trying to remember exactly what happens next.
I don't want to spoil parts of the second half.
So I know they make their way to to like
the main city and it's the casino there, and I
know Crocodile gets revealed to the rest of baroque works,
but I don't want to go anything further than that.
So if you want to take it from here and
talk about moments or characters.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 4: Am I able to track back a little bit because
it was something I kind of wanted to I loved.
I believe this might have been considered filler, but I
actually thoroughly enjoyed this episode. The sand Pirates, I don't
even know you're talking about kids. No, no, no, there
was like the pirate was I believe they called themselves
the Barber Pirates where it was a pirate crew, but
they like have a ship on the dunes.
Speaker 3: Did they have a killer?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they might have, so like I've most recently read
the manga and watched one pace, so like I would
not remember this unfortunately, but if you want to talk
about it, talk about as a chat, go for it.
Speaker 2: So I I I.
Speaker 4: Know this was probably considered filler, but there was like
I feel like some sort of like information or like
context that this episode gave that added a little more
to like especially BB. But I can't exactly remember the
name of this pirate, but there was a female pirate
on this crew where I guess they were gonna help transport,
you know, or help travel, help the straw has travel, right,
and they get stuck VV and Loofy gets stuck in
some sort of like sand quick sand dune, and this
particular female pirate was like, well, that princess con fend
for herself. I'm not helping her. And you get context
as to why she.
Speaker 2: Does not like VV.
Speaker 4: And turns out she was affected by all of the
stuff that's been happening in the Kingdom.
Speaker 2: Then that's why she holds so much hate for her and.
Speaker 4: At the end of the episode, you know, VV hears
her out and like, you know, here's coming from somebody
who's lived in Alabasta and suffered through all of you know,
the pain and you know, the everything that's been going
through with everyone. She gets a little more like context
as to like, oh, wow, this is this is how
it's affecting our people. So I know it's a little
bit of filler, but I feel like that was such
an important moment for VV as well, just again seeing
what's been going on and how all these different problems
that have been happening, how they're affecting different people.
Speaker 2: And I think that, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good contrast. That's a very good contract
because we see how it affected Toto and his resolve remained.
But I would imagine majority of people are a good
amount of people have completely turned on the king, and
even though we know a lot of them did, we
don't get to see their suffering and their attitude that
much other than maybe through Kosa. So I think that's
actually some fun filler that's actually relevant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely don't feel like you're wasting your time with
like just because we say the word filler and stuff
in some of these early arcs, I feel.
Speaker 1: Like people complain about go ahead, sorry, I.
Speaker 3: Was gonna say, when people complain about one piece filler,
they're usually talking about way later on, when they just
stretch things out. Only One Piece I feel like has
some of the best filler as far as like taking
the context of the the arc and like the character
and stuff into account and then just making it feel
very natural as they like expand upon that.
Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, I actually love one Piece filler. I
actually do like one piece filler. I just hate the
one piece pacing, and those exact are surprisingly different things.
So like the filler episodes themselves, I do tend to enjoy.
I just don't have the patience for watching One Piece
these days because again, like Jordan said later on, but
even currently, I feel like just after Alabasta, or even
around Alabasta, it just it takes so long to get
like to where it needs to be because of like
how much they drag out things, and it just gets
worse and worse with every arc I find. But the
actual filler itself is fine, it's just like the episodes
that aren't filler.
Speaker 3: I still think One Piece has some of the best filler,
like in like the big you know, mainstream shonin. I mean,
some of it stuck with me to this day, Like
all the scenes you get with Ace in the desert,
like just mimicking the lizard going back and forth. I
didn't rewatch that. I just remember that, right. It's one
of those things that just sticks with you.
Speaker 1: So apparently Naruto and Bleach had like forty five and
forty eight percent of forty eight percent filler. Well One
Piece only has like ten or eleven percent filler, but
ten percent of a thousand is still one hundred episodes
of filler. But also on top of that, like it's
just it's more just the non fillers pacing that tends
to be drawn out more and more with every arc.
I am a big fan of one Pace, but unfortunately
you wouldn't miss those filler arcs that are actually decent,
or those filler episodes are actually decent.
Speaker 4: How much you liked it, I also just love the
concept of sand pirates. It was just so cool seeing
them just kind of like sail through this and and you.
Speaker 1: Know what is this an avatar?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was honestly kind of like that. It was
really cool.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that particular filler episode kind of like stuck
with me a little bit after I finished it, where
it's just like, oh wow, nice, Like I didn't know this,
you know, it was that bad. But yeah, going back
to the casino, I enjoyed meeting the rest of the
agents and their interactions with each other is quite silly.
They banter a lot, but I didn't know up until
this point that they all had no idea who the
boss was and being like, oh my god, it's a warlord.
Speaker 2: What the heck? This is the guy we've been taking
orders from.
Speaker 1: And they were a little spooked, right, Like they were
shocked and also scared because they saw they saw Crocodile
like basically kill mister three. Oh yeah, how crazy was that?
Speaker 4: That was wild to see how easily he can just
dispose of, you know, his higher ranked agents. Just goes
to show that he will do anything it takes to
get to get to where he wants to be.
Speaker 1: Like mister three may not have been the strongest, but
when we watched him fight on Little Garden, he wasn't
like a slouch. And Crocodile has grabbed his face and
he just disintegrated and he go ahead.
Speaker 3: It's crazy because Crocodile is not only like one of
the strongest people we've seen yet, you know, you can
literally turn into sand, you can't hit him and whatnot.
But and he's not. He's also in the perfect environment, right,
a place that already is desert y and sie already
has a lot of sand and whatnot. Like, he is
a very strong character, but he doesn't rely on that, right.
He's such a meticulous and scheming guy that he put
together a whole secret organization to like bend things around
behind the scenes and manipulate things in those ways.
Speaker 1: So he could have just walked in and killed the
king dude, Like he literally could have just fluid there
and just killed everybody.
Speaker 3: At that point, you don't have like the cot trust
of the kingdom, and then you don't have like the
people willing to work like he has the people supporting him.
Speaker 6: That's the whole economic aspect of it. Like I takes
these other things into account that I understand. He also wants,
like military power, He's mentioned that already. I just it's
just so funny, Like I never even thought about it.
I'm like, this guy is such a master genius playing
forty chess and I'm just like, realistically, he's so strong
that before the straw hats got here, he could have
just floated into the Kingdom and wrecked everyone.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say everybody like Pell's there, I like, tell.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that. I right, go ahead,
he's the bird guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, he's the bird guy. Okay.
Speaker 1: I really don't think Pelle and the other army and
Cobra would have any chance against crocodile.
Speaker 3: They have a jackal guy too. I remember that because
Stark and they were like zoes, and I was just like,
that's a cool concept of me throwing a jackal and
a bird and cow. Many cool characters here.
Speaker 1: Anyway, if you want to continue, Sorry, I just I
just I never thought about the fact that the crocodile
could have just floated and probably just wrecked everyone.
Speaker 3: Get everybody nerding out, we start cutting you off.
Speaker 2: My bad, you know you're fine, Like, no big deal.
I don't recall.
Speaker 4: You guys can correct me, but I don't recall. They're
being context as to why Crocodile I was doing this.
I do remember him saying, this is where I was
born and raised here, like Alabasta is where he's native.
Speaker 2: So I'm just kind of like one.
Speaker 3: But I didn't even know that I forgot that then, huh.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure that's what I heard when I was watching.
But I'm just kind of wondering, like why is it
that he wants to destroy basically this country, Like why
why is it is he wanting to see his entire
like country he grew up in fall?
Speaker 3: And I think, well, he only destroyed the country here.
I feel like he could have done that already if
that was his goal.
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true, maybe just taking over.
Speaker 1: So there's two things that have been said, and I
want you to take note of one. He did say
he wants to build up a military power. He holds
some value in that. He said that, like to the
group of Barope Work agents, the numbered agents. And then
Ace also made a comment to Zoro that I think
is pretty cool, but I don't know if I should
get into it. He's just like, what was someone so
strong I want to do here?
Speaker 3: Like oh yeah, back at this back of this whole
backwater place, like I want to be out here if.
Speaker 1: I didn't, like, what if a pirate wants to settle down?
Speaker 3: It's crazy he's like, man, this is so early in
the grand line, Like who would want to be all
the way over here? Right?
Speaker 1: So maybe there's some type of ulterior motive, some master plan.
We'll have to wait and see and find out. Do
you have any theories on where this arcy is going,
not even this Crocodile wise, just in general.
Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I do not know. There is just
so much going on. You have the straw hats, you
have baroque, you have like the king, you have the revolution,
revolution in your army. Like it's just like, oh my god,
there's so many things happening at once. I cannot like
really pinpoint how this is going to get resolved. Like
I know it's going to at some point, right, but
it's just kind of how are we gonna get from
where we're at now towards that? Like to me, I
don't know. But I also am very like excited to
see I want to see more of Crocodile, Like, he's
a very interesting character, m you know, so I want
to be able to understand his you know, reasonings, and
understand like why he's doing this. But I also want
to see how the King is going to be able
to resolve this because he's already been under so much
pressure for the past few years and it's finally like
all coming down.
Speaker 1: So if you had to guess who's gonna fight who
in the upcoming episodes.
Speaker 3: Any idea, Oh God does keep it guessing.
Speaker 4: I want to guess there's gonna be a point where
it's Koza versus.
Speaker 2: V V at some point.
Speaker 1: That's interesting.
Speaker 4: You know, there's they're basically on two different sides right now,
two best friends, you know, having to fight each other
like they were as kids. That would be cool to
see them do that as like, you know, all grown
up now.
Speaker 2: Oh something.
Speaker 4: I also want to mention I had no idea Miss
all Sunday was a double fruit holder.
Speaker 2: That was crazy.
Speaker 4: But she was fighting pell Uh, especially the type of
devil she has. That was a that was a interesting
to have where she can grow limbs basically anywhere, so
that'll be I kind of want to see her go
against Loofy where he has like a stretchy body, but
she can grow body parts.
Speaker 2: That would be fun to watch.
Speaker 3: I thought she was gonna say she wanted to see
her go against VV. I'm like, oh, we go against everybody.
Her hands once she got addicted.
Speaker 2: She's all right, VV can throw hands. She's not. I
mean she was, I made bloody.
Speaker 1: I think she blooded his mouth, right, But if anyone
could throw hands, it's it's it's miss all Sunday, all right.
Speaker 2: I mean VB.
Speaker 4: I'm sure she knew she wasn't gonna beat crocodile, but
she was throwing hands with him, like she was doing
whatever she could to try to fight him, even though.
Speaker 3: I know if you're done to that party, BB versus Crocodile,
there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm fucking crying right now because Chat just said
something really funny. I would love, butcided just to read
it because it's so ridiculous. But this is how crazy
one piece gets and the theories get. So what in
Chat said, I'm just saying crocodile being Loofy's mom theory.
What crocodile mom theory confirmed? Deny. We will talk about
that again, never in five hundred million years. But it's
just so.
Speaker 2: Any sense.
Speaker 3: Sounds like a next title video?
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it does sound like a next title video.
Speaker 1: Anyway. I'm just trying to try to remember here, So
you're you're you're thinking, maybe Loofy versus All Sunday. I
slipped up there. But you play the fucking card game.
That's why you keep on saying Cuson. You probably played
Couson and that's why you Oh yeah, he's.
Speaker 2: A staple card. I'm trying to think. I want to
see Nammy fight.
Speaker 4: I feel like I haven't seen her fight enough because
I know she's capable, but I want to be able
to see her.
Speaker 2: Do something.
Speaker 4: I wonder if the King is going to have a
fight O this coming second.
Speaker 1: Half, Well, this is this is one of the first arcs.
It's the end of like a big saga here, and
it's one of the first arts. For There's a lot
of enemies, like you have Crocodile, Mister one, Mister two,
all the way through fucking like nine or ten, and
you have a revolutionary army, you have the King's army.
There are so many moving parts, and I do think
there's gonna be a lot of fights. You have all
the straw hats, billions, billions, millions, billions.
Speaker 2: The people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like there it's oh boy, this will be a
big one. But I'm very very excited to finish this.
I'm probably gonna try to.
Speaker 2: Get through it pretty soon.
Speaker 4: But oh, I also want to mention, uh, I thought
it was interesting seeing a smoker for a little bit
with the straw.
Speaker 2: Hats while they were locked up.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, he was just kind of like loofy'sier, like
banging his head on the bars, like let me, let me,
let me.
Speaker 2: I already told you that is not going to work.
Speaker 1: Can you remind me exactly what happened in like this
these ending couple episodes that I didn't watch.
Speaker 4: So uh, the last episode I got to was when
they escaped from the casino. But basically they were all
locked up and inside this cage that's made out of
some sort of material that's supposed to suppress double fruit
powers an expert on that. I'm sorry, and then Crocodile
basically just left them to die. Let all of his
banana Yeah, banana gators just over there ready to have lunch.
And Sanji, who I thought was quite interesting because during
the meeting between all the baroque works, mister two never
saw Sanjy, so they do not know who Sonjy is.
He gave pictures he was able to mimic. I believe
usop Zoro, Loofy and Nami and VG right Chopper, but
he was not able to mimic Soanjy because he never
got to see him. So Sonji's kind of like their
little secret where you know, they don't know, they don't
know he's part of the straw hat. So I believe
Sonjy knows that is a thing, and he tries to
bust them out because he knows he's not gonna really
get caught. And you see him like in this disguise,
he has like glasses. He's like, I'm gonna get you
guys out.
Speaker 1: Also, we already had this, we had the mister Prince moment. Okay, yeah,
I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure. I didn't want to
spoil anything. That's why I'm like, can you remind me
what happened to the last eleven.
Speaker 4: Where he beat him and Chopper beat everybody up about
the casino.
Speaker 1: Mister Price coming in to save the day. Let's go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of great moments in the castle, do you
remember how they got caught?
Speaker 2: H remind me.
Speaker 3: It's like vip room this way, pirates this way.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and then we're pirates. We have to go.
I love it.
Speaker 3: It's so serious but also so stupid and.
Speaker 1: Like, God, I love one Piece. I also, my chat
is so fucking stupid. They're like the crocodile being Lufy's
mom theory and now they're like, Smoker inspired me to
start smoking cigarettes at the age of fourteen. No, thank
you Chat. Very cool.
Speaker 2: No, that moment was funny because I remember Nami being.
Speaker 4: Like, no, don't turn there, don't turn there, and they
all like got fell into the trap.
Speaker 2: She's like, what did I tell you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I thought that was really like interesting that
crocodile and Baroque don't know about Sonjy's existence, so I'm
excited to see him kind of play that role into this.
But I particularly liked that because the last episode I
watch was when they escaped and you know Smoke Smoker
has a devil fruit power so he can't swim, and
the straw hats basically saved his life. They you know,
got him out of there, and you know, the Marines
were all coming after them, and he just goes, you
guys saved my life, So I'm gonna let you go
just this once.
Speaker 2: So I thought that was really cool.
Speaker 4: Smoker is probably, you know, one of my becoming one
of my like top characters just because I think he's
also just super silly, like he he's someone who kind
of he has one in mine. He doesn't care how
he's gonna do it. He's like, I must catch this
straw hat. It's like playing cat and mouse with him
and Loofy, And I think that's so funny because he
even has his little moments as well.
Speaker 1: Where yeah, it's interesting because he thinks all pirates are
scum and then the one person he's trying to catch
is Loofy, and like time and time again, like he's
kind of doing decently okay things, Loofy trying to like
save a country and stuff like that. He's he's traveling
with the princess, so it's a it's a cool dynamic there.
And seeing Smoker be like, let them go.
Speaker 3: Is it like when you have a group of people
as big as pirates, you know there's gonna be a
little bit of shades of gray there, and him actually
seeing that for a bit is like hm hmm, I
don't know. There's so many things going on in One Piece,
it is. It's a lot to keep up with.
Speaker 1: I love I love hearing people talk about One Piece.
I love it so much.
Speaker 2: I also want to know.
Speaker 4: One of my favorite like moments during these like few
like last like episodes of the first half was when
Zoro and Tashigi run into each other and Zoro's like,
I'm not going.
Speaker 2: To fight you.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna fight you, like he's scared of her,
even like he just doesn't want to deal with her
because it looks like his you know, your childhood friend.
And I think that is so funny because she's like,
no fighting Zoro, we need to settle this, and he's like, no,
I am not fighting you, and he's running away from
her like a little.
Speaker 1: Girl, just hurry up and kiss already. Goddamn.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: I just think their dynamic is so silly because you
know Zoro, he's a fighter. He will throw hands and
he can be really serious. But with this one girl,
he just cannot deal with her.
Speaker 1: He's not like he's not like chivalrous like Sonjy, who
wouldn't want to fight a girl. Zoro would cut her down,
you know, maybe show her a little bit of but
not really. But like you just like you're just throwing
him off. It's throwing him off too much. I love it.
Speaker 2: It's freaking him out, and he's just like I'm just.
Speaker 1: Replaced. I'm glad you're loving it, and I'm glad you'reself
into it. I know Jordan probably has to take off
right around now, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I do gotta dip. But thank you guys so much
for having me. I'm glad to hear your loving one piece.
It's been really fun to go over again.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I'm excited to keep watching.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm excited to see what you think about it.
Speaker 1: All right, take it easy, Jordan, I'm gonna ask. I'm
just gonna ASKU I didn't like her final thoughts here,
and then we're gonna probably.
Speaker 2: Call it all right, h Jordan.
Speaker 1: I guess tell Because he was saying he had a
meeting or something. I'm like, I guess tell him. I
guess tell about the look on his face, like he
was he was doing some things in the background. I'm like,
you could go, It's okay, you could go. But yeah,
final thoughts anything, any final moments or like final ideas
you want to talk about.
Speaker 4: I'm just really looking forward to seeing how the rest
of this is gonna go down now that Crocodile is
going to be more involved, you know, is it going
to be outed that Crocodile is the villain here, like
because everybody in.
Speaker 2: This country is like, oh my god, he's a poor lord.
He saves all of us from all the trouble. Like yeah,
so I don't know if he's going to use that.
Speaker 1: He's playing it off as the hero right now. What
could he be up to. It's really it's it's exciting.
It's just one of the bigger arcs for sure. I'm
glad you're enjoying it, and I think you're in Like
this was the build up. I feel like the arcs
starts like three episodes ago, not starts, but like that's
when like really starts going down right, Like they get captured,
Santi shows up kind of saves them. Fights are about
to get started soon. Like it's like the revolutionary army
and the are like on their way to the capitol.
Like it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the people are riled up.
Speaker 4: They you know, the Bister two posed as the king
and you know there are people, I believe you call
the millions. They posed as the you know, the King's army,
and they were going into towns and going into that
one town and they were beating people up.
Speaker 2: So now.
Speaker 4: I think it's such a turning point for the entire
country where you know a war will be breaking out,
and we also kind of ended off.
Speaker 2: And where the king is missing, the real kid. We
don't know where he's at.
Speaker 4: Did he get kidnapped, did he go try to find
vv what is happening now? So I'm really looking forward
to see how the rest of this is gonna play out.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, hell yeah. Honestly, like me not knowing what
episodes you covered there, it was great. Just like hearing
your like your raw, like genuine like kind of like
thoughts on everything towards those that last episodes. I want
to push you to do that more for like the
oh yeah, like the next the next episode and stuff.
I'm gonna I'm gonna play dumb and pretend like I
know nothing, and I'm gonna let you take it from
here because honestly, I love hearing that chat. I hope
you guys enjoyed. Remember to check out Poseidon, check out
the podcast. It's the one piece Virsion on Spotify and
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