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<v Speaker 1>Big Food and Beyond.

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<v Speaker 2>With Cliff and Bobo. These guys are your favorites, so

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<v Speaker 2>like say subscribe and rade it.

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<v Speaker 1>Five stary and.

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<v Speaker 3>Righteous.

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<v Speaker 1>Go on yes today and listening, oh watching limb always

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<v Speaker 1>keep it's watching.

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<v Speaker 3>And now your hosts Cliff Berrickman and James Bubo Fay

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<v Speaker 3>Cliff Bobo.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that you?

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<v Speaker 4>It is, sir, nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I was hoping it would be you. How are you

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<v Speaker 2>doing today, my friend?

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<v Speaker 4>Good? Good. We just had our second warm day of

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<v Speaker 4>the year. It was fifty six degrees but there was

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<v Speaker 4>no wind and the sun was out, so it felt

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<v Speaker 4>like a ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's good and bad. That's good and bad, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's a welcome change. We're having the same heat wave

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<v Speaker 2>up here. It is sixty three right now and it

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<v Speaker 2>is after five pm. It is killer today. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been working all day and doing other stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll work is kind of loose for me right today.

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<v Speaker 2>It is my day off and I've already been to

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<v Speaker 2>work twice so far, so pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not bad. Kreta is in the running for a

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<v Speaker 4>job out by Walla Walla, no kidding. Yeah, she's applying

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<v Speaker 4>to and she thinks there's a way less competition.

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<v Speaker 2>Out there, probably true.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so she talked to someone out there and they're like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh yeah, please submit your resume, and they sounded excited.

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<v Speaker 4>So who knows. I could be a Blue Mountains guy

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<v Speaker 4>pretty soon.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be cool. I mean, that'd be great. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's a couple of people work in the Blues, but

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<v Speaker 2>not that many at the end of the day, and

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<v Speaker 2>not that many in the Blues is an awfully big

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<v Speaker 2>area to have like three people working it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Jonathan Summerland, Reggie Burgh. There's a few guys that

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<v Speaker 4>we now out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I mean, well, Jonathan's landed a great job

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, so I think his time's pretty limited. And Reggie,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think he was seven for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>like so I think he's been getting out a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more. But yeah, there's a few people out there

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<v Speaker 2>doing some good work. But it would be great to

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<v Speaker 2>have you out there too, because I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 2>hitting the Blues a couple of times this year.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, I'm stoked for if it works out. And

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<v Speaker 4>it's not the prettiest place. I like being in the

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<v Speaker 4>mountains where we'd be living down in the valley, you know, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the rollings of an onion field sort of hills.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe there's a lot of wineries the stuff out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they've really turned it around. It's not so much.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Walla wall is famous in our neck of

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<v Speaker 2>the woods for onions essentially, you know. But it's a

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<v Speaker 2>great little place. I really like Walla Wall actually, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Blues are awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the nap of Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it? Is that what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I heard.

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<v Speaker 2>Walla Walla, Napa Napa. Yeah, well cool, you got to

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<v Speaker 2>keep us posted on that. I'd love to have you out.

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<v Speaker 2>That'd be closer. I mean you'd be about four hours

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<v Speaker 2>for me versus the seven that I think you are now.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it'll be just forty five minutes for me this

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<v Speaker 4>coming up week, and then I'll be about ten seconds

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<v Speaker 4>three when it comes to your house for a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of days at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, is that you know? Melissa has been asking have

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<v Speaker 2>you heard from Bobo? Say, no, no indication. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to stay here, said, I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>We won't know until midnight when he's going to show up.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like he'll call me at eleven thirty or

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<v Speaker 2>midnight and Cliff, I'm in Salem, Can I say true? Okay? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course we knew you're gonna be in town, so

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<v Speaker 2>we knew you're gonna be here eventually. Oh and everybody

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<v Speaker 2>people coming in the shop, you know, this past week

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, they people ask about you the sh up,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, and they say, how's Bobo doing it? Oh

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<v Speaker 2>he's blah blah Blah's good. He might be up here

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<v Speaker 2>this week. And they always ask, you know what they

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<v Speaker 2>always ask, now, is he going to take his trailer home?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm planning on grabbing it.

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<v Speaker 2>I that it was pretty great. It's like I can

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<v Speaker 2>always tell who listens to the podcast because they're asking

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<v Speaker 2>me what's up with Bobo's trailer?

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<v Speaker 4>I might sell might be selling it pretty soon here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, well, you know, we happen to have a

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<v Speaker 2>few people listening to the podcast. Maybe one of them

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<v Speaker 2>would want to buy it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's dope. It's a sweet littlechil. I just kind of

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<v Speaker 4>fix it. It just sat sat for a while, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was just minor things. But I'm not like that mechanical.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was like the heat, the heating system, air

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<v Speaker 4>conditioner worked when I parked it, and then it didn't

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<v Speaker 4>work after like six months, like and then the I

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<v Speaker 4>got to replace the pilot light little burner thing and

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<v Speaker 4>for the hot water. That was about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, you know, if you can't turn that into

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<v Speaker 2>a bobo's Airbnb, then you might as well sell it

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<v Speaker 2>unless you're going to be camping a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>An airbnb, no matter how good of an idea that is,

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<v Speaker 2>that would take a lot of work, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, especially for that truck. You get like eighty bucks

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<v Speaker 4>a night and you got to clean it every time

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<v Speaker 4>and discovered, you know, do all that to do with

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<v Speaker 4>like all the bedding and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, because you know, the big potters are rather

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<v Speaker 2>messy folks. Sometimes he probably get a pretty dirty imagine,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, being out in the mud and all that jazz.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, but who knows, maybe maybe put it up

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<v Speaker 4>in the blues if we're up there, rent it out

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<v Speaker 4>for the blues or who knows what.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, the world is your oyster, you know, come

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<v Speaker 2>get the pearl.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I was looking at if we get something like

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<v Speaker 4>if we get because it's pretty slim pickings out there

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<v Speaker 4>for housing, So if we got like a one bedroom,

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<v Speaker 4>might bring it up there just parking outside for like

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<v Speaker 4>extra room or guest room or whatever, office, podcasting booth.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever podcasting booth. That's an idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>Well doing this. We got a new guest on this week.

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<v Speaker 4>We got an author from the great state of New York,

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<v Speaker 4>Bill Sheehan. He's the writer of Terror in the Woods.

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<v Speaker 4>Think there's about six of those books now, and I've

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<v Speaker 4>always heard, you know, people really enjoyed them. I've read

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<v Speaker 4>two of them the way through. He's got a ton

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<v Speaker 4>of contacts, tons of stories. Really interesting guy. People love him.

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<v Speaker 4>So Cliff meet Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill's nice to meet you, man, say me and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like an old home week.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to you guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's a podcast too.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you have a bit podcast really Bigfoot Terror in

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<v Speaker 2>the Woods. Bigfoot Terror in the Woods now is that

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<v Speaker 2>the name of the of the book as well? Because

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<v Speaker 2>when I looked up terr in the Woods, some TV

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<v Speaker 2>show came up or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't know, but my books are entitled Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>Terror in the Woods, Sidings and Encounters. There's ten ten volumes,

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<v Speaker 1>and nine of them are laid down an audio book.

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<v Speaker 2>So there you go. That explains it. Just because Terror

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<v Speaker 2>in the Wood seems to be there's like an IMDb thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to be some sort of a three season

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<v Speaker 2>TV show, And I wasn't sure if you were associated

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<v Speaker 2>with that or if they just ripped you off or

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<v Speaker 2>or coincidental or what, you know, the story behind that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they just ripped me off. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Good, I mean you have something good man, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>good title then, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, even the cover art on my books.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a couple of people writing Bigfoot stories now on

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon and they've kind of clipped into my cover art

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<v Speaker 1>and whatnot. Which, look, I don't mind, because it's props

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<v Speaker 1>to me as far as I'm concerned. They saw something

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<v Speaker 1>good or they like what I'm doing and they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to mimic it in some way, shape or form.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, it's kind of like it's got to

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<v Speaker 2>benefit you in some way too, because I was thinking, like, like,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, when the Travel Channel show Expedition Bigfoot came on,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, how stoked is Dave and Belinda Bakara for

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<v Speaker 2>owning a Bigfoot museum called Expedition Bigfoot. I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>must have been great for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, you know, it's one big party, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the bigfoot phenom. But I kind of beat to my

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<v Speaker 1>own drama. I'm really not concerned what other people are doing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, me too. I'm I'm exactly on that same page.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even I don't know who a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>these players are nowadays. I don't know what they're doing

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<v Speaker 2>because I figure, if it's important or really really cool,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to hear about it eventually anyway, So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not out there sick of my nose in other people's

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<v Speaker 2>business and saying, what are you up to? What's that

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<v Speaker 2>person doing? I just don't care, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Hence Bill's appearance.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I was saying to Bobo earlier that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit out of the loop. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of only interested. I'm so busy that I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>only interested in what I'm doing and how I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>it done. From day to day. I don't really have

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<v Speaker 1>time for much else, you know, as far as opinions

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<v Speaker 1>and bantering back and forth with people or non believers

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<v Speaker 1>or believers. You know, when you're busy, you're busy, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just got to stay focused and keep the wheels turning. Forward.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably the best attitude to have in this bigfoot subject. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you have some friends that you share your stuff with,

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<v Speaker 2>and you just keep your nose of the grindstone, keep

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<v Speaker 2>doing which you enjoy doing, no matter what that is,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe at the end of the day you can

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<v Speaker 2>contribute something that might be a value.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I find that. I told Bobes that I've

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<v Speaker 1>created a lot of really solid friendships around North America

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<v Speaker 1>doing this work. And one of the things that I

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<v Speaker 1>stick to is that I have no reason whatsoever to

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<v Speaker 1>not believe these individuals had the encounters that they say

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<v Speaker 1>they've had, because they could easily turn the tables on me. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never encountered a Bigfoot, but I've had numerous UFO

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<v Speaker 1>encounters and several Angelic encounters during my lifetime.

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<v Speaker 2>Angelic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and now listen, anybody could hear a story told

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<v Speaker 1>by me and say, hey, Bill, you're full of beans,

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<v Speaker 1>but they'd be lying. They'd be deceived because I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>full of beans. It's exactly what happened to me, whether

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<v Speaker 1>you choose to believe me or not. So when I

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<v Speaker 1>interview people I get what I call a check in

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<v Speaker 1>my spirit if somebody's bs and me. I can't really

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<v Speaker 1>old sixth sense, you know, like in the sixties when

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<v Speaker 1>with in this day and age. They have no sensitivity.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been told I have a sixth sense, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was they said, a success of humor.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's a sixth sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I'm so sorry. You know my hearing

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<v Speaker 2>How embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Bill, what percent of people do you think? How

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<v Speaker 1>I would say the vast majority of people that I

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, for instance, if somebody says to me that

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<v Speaker 1>or it was eleven feet tall. If you run into

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<v Speaker 1>something that's tremendous, it would be very easy, especially if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not familiar with like walking around Clivesdale's or seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a bison in Yosemite. It'd be very easy to overestimate

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<v Speaker 1>or exaggerate that which you have seen, would it not?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, sure, so you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they said it was twelve feet tall and it

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<v Speaker 1>was nine feet Maybe they said it was two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>pounds and it was nine hundred pounds. I mean, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you wrong somebody when they say something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>What they're describing to you is something so off the

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers just kind of escalate if you follow me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I never hold that against them.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you can't, because people I say this all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always ranting that people are pretty bad observers, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're even worse with numbers of heights and distances and weights.

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<v Speaker 2>You just can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even bother. I don't take it to heart

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<v Speaker 2>anybody who says they see a big foot that's eight

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<v Speaker 2>feet tall or ten or twelve feet tall, I just

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<v Speaker 2>go big. I have three different categories that I put

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<v Speaker 2>them in, like small man or human size, and then

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<v Speaker 2>big you know that kind of thing, And anything over

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<v Speaker 2>seven and a half I just consider big. And if

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<v Speaker 2>it's seven foot nine inches or eight foot twelve eleven

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<v Speaker 2>inches or god knows or whatever, it doesn't matter. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just big because they don't know, and there's no way

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<v Speaker 2>to know, even if they brush their head against some leaf.

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<v Speaker 2>All that sort of stuff is very imprecise science as

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<v Speaker 2>far as I'm concerned. So you're walking on ice, cliff, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind. I don't mind dropping through ice. Every

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<v Speaker 4>I'll say this. I thought I thought those people were

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<v Speaker 4>all like exaggerate. I thought ten foot had to be maximum.

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<v Speaker 4>But Danny and I have seen that one. You had

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<v Speaker 4>a laser range finder on it. We saw its head

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<v Speaker 4>touched the branch, and I think it was about eleven

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<v Speaker 4>foot tall. I mean it was. I couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 4>I was I they were big, and I was in

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<v Speaker 4>shock how big it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you know there's genetic variation, like like look

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<v Speaker 2>at you, look at you, and I bobo, like we're

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<v Speaker 2>arguably the same species, and I'm five foot eights. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm not slouching, and you're you're six foot four

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<v Speaker 2>with your boots on, and you're well over seven feet

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<v Speaker 2>when you wear your personality.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, you flatter me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, you know what one of the most recent, well,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of accounts that came my way that I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to talk about tonight, but just to give

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<v Speaker 1>you an idea, I made the acquaintance of a really

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<v Speaker 1>straight shooting guy that used to fly bush in Alaska,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a listener to the podcast. He squared up

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<v Speaker 1>with me one day and spent about an hour and

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<v Speaker 1>a half slowly going through my Q and A about

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<v Speaker 1>his encounter over to Mendenhall Glacier in Alaska flying bush

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<v Speaker 1>and he was flying with a couple of people in

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<v Speaker 1>the plane, a small piper. He came over to glacier

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<v Speaker 1>and he said he was about forty miles outside of

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<v Speaker 1>Juno at the time, which was well beyond the furthermost

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<v Speaker 1>reaches of even snowmobilers, and he started observing a track

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<v Speaker 1>line down on the glacier below him. So, of course

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<v Speaker 1>the people in the plane with him, they're just civilians

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<v Speaker 1>in a ride. He started to follow the track line

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<v Speaker 1>and came across a group of bigfoot walking along the

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<v Speaker 1>greci the glacier. And there are certain rules they follow

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<v Speaker 1>up there about especially when you have passengers. He told me,

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<v Speaker 1>if I didn't have any passengers, I would have given

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<v Speaker 1>him a crew cut. But he said he knew what

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking about. He banked a turn, came down

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<v Speaker 1>a little lower to try to get a better look

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<v Speaker 1>at them. But the backstory is this, other people in

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<v Speaker 1>the company that he worked for had been taking some

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<v Speaker 1>like deec people up in the glacier periodically to do

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<v Speaker 1>core samples of the ice and a variety of different things.

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<v Speaker 1>And these people were well familiar with the bigfoot, and

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<v Speaker 1>they thought that they were coming across from the Canadian

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<v Speaker 1>side and going through this portion of Alaska getting to

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<v Speaker 1>the lind Canal when the salmon run was heavy in there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting, you know, some of the things you hear about.

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<v Speaker 1>I get an education from these people at the loggers,

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<v Speaker 1>the hunters, even the hikers. I mean, you guys know

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<v Speaker 1>you've done a lot of legwork walking around in the forest.

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<v Speaker 1>I always say that people see something because they're looking

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<v Speaker 1>sounds mundane, but there's a lot of people walking around

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<v Speaker 1>out there with their head up their butt or in

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<v Speaker 1>their cell phone, and they're not gonna see anything because

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<v Speaker 1>they're not looking, they're not out there, they're not observing.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and

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<v Speaker 2>Bogo will be right back after these messages. So three

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<v Speaker 2>to six months doesn't seem like a long time right

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<v Speaker 2>in Bigfootland. It's not very long because we've been looking

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<v Speaker 2>for sasquatches for decades and decades and decades. But think

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<v Speaker 2>what would you do in three to six months? I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to give me six months go squatching squad, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, and how much do you think is going

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<v Speaker 2>to get done during that time? In squatching you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>see one in six months? Probably not, But in three

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<v Speaker 4>Did did the other people on the planet see it?

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<v Speaker 4>Did he mention that to the guests or the customer passengers?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what Jerry told me was the first thing they

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<v Speaker 1>think about when he throttles back and banks the plane

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<v Speaker 1>is that they're going down. And the one guy who

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<v Speaker 1>And he pointed down and the guy said to him,

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<v Speaker 1>what's that? And he said sasquatch And the guy just

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<v Speaker 1>looked at him like, you know, no kidding?

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<v Speaker 4>How many were there? He said, there were several. Did

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<v Speaker 4>you mentioned how many different sizes?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he said there was about five. But when

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<v Speaker 1>he looked at them. He was still a good height

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<v Speaker 1>above them. You know, we're talking like a thousand feet.

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<v Speaker 1>He explained to me that when you go from Juno

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<v Speaker 1>to Skagway, which is where they were heading that day,

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<v Speaker 1>He said, you would typically fly directly over the Linn

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<v Speaker 1>Canal or up over the Mendenhall Glacier. The fairs that

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<v Speaker 1>were with him that day wanted to go over the

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<v Speaker 1>Lynn Canal so they could see some orcers, and Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>said that he had just done a mail run from

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<v Speaker 1>Skagway in the morning and there were no orcers in

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<v Speaker 1>the canal, so he took them over to Mendenhall Glacier

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how this whole thing fell out. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you're all over the glacier, Jerry said, they had rules

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<v Speaker 1>about maintaining a certain altitude so that if you had

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<v Speaker 1>certain altitude to get down and hopefully get to a

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<v Speaker 1>place where you could set the bird down. So it's interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when I say you get an education from

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<v Speaker 1>some of these people, it's just that way, Like when

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to the many loggers that I talked to. Cliff,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get a kick out of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my newfound bigfoot buddies, Dave. I won't mention

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<v Speaker 1>his last name. He's a logger for going on forty years.

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<v Speaker 1>He had an encounter and also another logging crew in

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<v Speaker 1>the salmon Berry Canyon.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, that's local here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And they were doing he's actually had a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of encounters, but they were doing a clean out on

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<v Speaker 1>a site. He's a driver. He drives a log truck

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<v Speaker 1>in and out. And the road going into this site

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<v Speaker 1>is twenty five miles long into the woods. And when

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<v Speaker 1>he was going in early in the morning four point

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<v Speaker 1>thirty I think he said, his lights in the trees

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<v Speaker 1>hit something leaning against the side of a trunk. And

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<v Speaker 1>they're not going fast. You know, this is a dirt

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<v Speaker 1>road created for these big, heavy trucks to move in

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00:20:58.200 --> 00:20:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and out of it. Some of them are all over

423
00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:04.240
<v Speaker 1>some dicey situations in there. He saw this thing and

424
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<v Speaker 1>he told me it was the biggest silver back gorilla

425
00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:10.839
<v Speaker 1>I ever set eyes on. And it froze when the

426
00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:14.000
<v Speaker 1>headlights hit it, leaning against the trunk of a tree, like,

427
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<v Speaker 1>you know, standing still, like it didn't want to be seen.

428
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<v Speaker 1>But he knew what he had seen. So now fast

429
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<v Speaker 1>forward a little bit. In there working this site, one

430
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<v Speaker 1>of the guys on the landing had said he heard

431
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<v Speaker 1>people talking in the woods and he couldn't understand them. Now,

432
00:21:35.359 --> 00:21:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Dave hadn't let on what he had seen to anybody,

433
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<v Speaker 1>and then the shuttle operator also chimed in and said

434
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<v Speaker 1>he heard some people talking in the woods and he

435
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<v Speaker 1>couldn't understand them either. So the shuttle operator takes it

436
00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:54.400
<v Speaker 1>on himself to drive around on any of the dirt

437
00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:58.279
<v Speaker 1>pathways that he could with the truck, looking seeking out

438
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<v Speaker 1>who might be in the woods, and he found nobody.

439
00:22:01.160 --> 00:22:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Now a short time later, now Dave had seen this

440
00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:07.200
<v Speaker 1>giant what he described as a silver back. He knew

441
00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:09.160
<v Speaker 1>it was a bigfoot, but he was trying to put

442
00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:15.559
<v Speaker 1>into perspective what he was looking at, black and gray, bigfoot, monstrous.

443
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<v Speaker 1>When they cleaned out their site and left, another logging

444
00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:25.519
<v Speaker 1>company had come in behind them doing another area using

445
00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:31.359
<v Speaker 1>the same road. So fast forward to the summertime. Dave

446
00:22:31.480 --> 00:22:34.119
<v Speaker 1>runs into a couple of these blokes from this other

447
00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:37.319
<v Speaker 1>logging company and he says to him, hey, did you

448
00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:40.880
<v Speaker 1>see anything up there while you guys were working? And

449
00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the guy says to him, see anything. We saw a

450
00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:49.480
<v Speaker 1>freaking bigfoot walking down the cut line and ducking back

451
00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:53.000
<v Speaker 1>into the woods. That was silver and gray or white

452
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<v Speaker 1>and gray.

453
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<v Speaker 2>It's more verification right there, yeah.

454
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<v Speaker 1>Right there. I mean you're talking close proximity, within miles

455
00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:04.519
<v Speaker 1>of where Dave was when he saw this thing against

456
00:23:04.519 --> 00:23:09.119
<v Speaker 1>a tree. Then the gibberish being heard around the landing

457
00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:13.160
<v Speaker 1>side off into the woods. And now the whole crew

458
00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:17.000
<v Speaker 1>saw this bigfoot because the guys up on the landing

459
00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:21.400
<v Speaker 1>first saw it. Then they radio down to the guys

460
00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:25.079
<v Speaker 1>in the brush, signaling to them to take a look.

461
00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:28.640
<v Speaker 1>And everybody was watching this thing walk right down their

462
00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:32.759
<v Speaker 1>cutline and then ducking back into the woods. So I mean,

463
00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:37.400
<v Speaker 1>just really interesting, you know. But again, you know, I've

464
00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:44.279
<v Speaker 1>had encounters happen and basically fairly urban areas. I mean,

465
00:23:44.359 --> 00:23:47.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, where houses are built, and this typically always

466
00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:53.240
<v Speaker 1>plenty of forest around adjoining these houses. But not every

467
00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:57.880
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot siding, as you well know, has to happen in

468
00:23:57.920 --> 00:23:59.559
<v Speaker 1>the middle of a koutene or something.

469
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<v Speaker 2>You know, It's very common misunderstanding is that people think

470
00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:04.279
<v Speaker 2>you have to go in the middle of nowhere to

471
00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:07.079
<v Speaker 2>have Sasquatch reports and that doesn't make any sense even

472
00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:09.640
<v Speaker 2>from the get go, because really, to have a bigfoot report,

473
00:24:09.720 --> 00:24:11.200
<v Speaker 2>you have to have a sasquatch at a place that

474
00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:13.599
<v Speaker 2>a human is at, and if we're ever going to

475
00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:15.680
<v Speaker 2>hear about it, there has to be an investigator nearby

476
00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:19.039
<v Speaker 2>who's willing to listen and share it. So most bigfoot

477
00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:23.079
<v Speaker 2>reports happened where those two species overlap, sasquatches and humans.

478
00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:27.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had a guy in New Jersey. And by

479
00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:32.240
<v Speaker 1>the way, a lot of the data that I've collected

480
00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:37.759
<v Speaker 1>comes from very diverse areas. I mean everywhere from Florida

481
00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:43.799
<v Speaker 1>to Maine. A lot of activity in Quebec and Alberta

482
00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:53.279
<v Speaker 1>in Canada, British Columbia, your neck of the Woods, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Kentucky, Texas,

483
00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the Dakota is Ohio. I mean it just Michigan and

484
00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:02.519
<v Speaker 1>the Upper Peninsula in Michigan. Yeah, it just goes on

485
00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:08.319
<v Speaker 1>and on and on. So what do you say. Look,

486
00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I had a bus driver. I had a woman bus

487
00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.519
<v Speaker 1>driver who was driving what you would call like a

488
00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:18.960
<v Speaker 1>mini bus. She was waging. She had a custom of

489
00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:22.720
<v Speaker 1>parking on the side of this road, drinking her coffee

490
00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:25.400
<v Speaker 1>in the morning, letting the bus warm up before it

491
00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:29.079
<v Speaker 1>was time to begin her little route, and she was

492
00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:33.839
<v Speaker 1>drinking coffee and something slammed into the side of the bus.

493
00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:38.240
<v Speaker 1>She turned her head and saw the body of a bigfoot,

494
00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:42.319
<v Speaker 1>so big that she couldn't see the top. She punched

495
00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:45.359
<v Speaker 1>a gas taken off in this mini bus, and the

496
00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.799
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot slammed her in the rear door, breaking the back

497
00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:53.200
<v Speaker 1>window and denting the door on the emergency door. When

498
00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:57.160
<v Speaker 1>she got back and told the boss what happened, she

499
00:25:57.200 --> 00:25:59.599
<v Speaker 1>didn't do her route. She went right back to the barn.

500
00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:04.119
<v Speaker 1>They fired her. They thought she was bs in her

501
00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:07.240
<v Speaker 1>and she was telling them the truth about what had happened.

502
00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:11.319
<v Speaker 1>They thought she backed into something, you know, poor driving,

503
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:14.240
<v Speaker 1>smashed the door and broke the window out, and that

504
00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>was the end of her career over there. But little

505
00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:20.440
<v Speaker 1>things like that, you know, just strange things. People having

506
00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:27.480
<v Speaker 1>their henhouses ransacked. I had a guy I had a

507
00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>story I called the meat freezer incident. This fellow had

508
00:26:31.759 --> 00:26:37.839
<v Speaker 1>a barn behind his house and he put a giant

509
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:42.119
<v Speaker 1>frigidare floor freezer in there, you know those old ones

510
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:44.920
<v Speaker 1>where you'd pull on the handle and lift the whole

511
00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:47.599
<v Speaker 1>lid up. He got this thing in the yard sale,

512
00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:50.559
<v Speaker 1>and he put it in there as a venison locker,

513
00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and he had bolted through with carriage bolts, a galvanized

514
00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:02.640
<v Speaker 1>clasp on the lid, and master lock on it. And

515
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:08.640
<v Speaker 1>this bigfoot ripped the freaking carriage bolts out, the clasp

516
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:15.119
<v Speaker 1>and the master lock off the freezer. I mean you

517
00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:19.240
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about strength. You know, these things are

518
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>off the charts as far as physical strength and abilities go.

519
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:27.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's pretty common. The meat freezer like things like

520
00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:30.960
<v Speaker 4>outdoor fridges and meat freezers like I've heard at least

521
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:33.200
<v Speaker 4>two dozen reports of that happening getting raided.

522
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, listen, you guys know these things are opportunists. Uh,

523
00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:41.079
<v Speaker 1>and they're not unlike a lot of other animals who

524
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:44.079
<v Speaker 1>know what's around their area. They know when the fruit

525
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:48.640
<v Speaker 1>trees are in bloom. They know where to get their fish,

526
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:51.000
<v Speaker 1>They know where to get a drink of water if

527
00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:54.519
<v Speaker 1>they want one. Uh, you know, they're rare. I have

528
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:57.200
<v Speaker 1>a if we get a chance. Tonight, I brought a

529
00:27:57.519 --> 00:27:59.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, Bubba, I was talking to you. I said,

530
00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:02.440
<v Speaker 1>do you want me to read any accounts? I picked

531
00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:05.079
<v Speaker 1>a variety here, but one of them I named where

532
00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:09.559
<v Speaker 1>the ravens gather that's gonna blow your mind if we

533
00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:12.960
<v Speaker 1>get to reading that. But I've had several reports of

534
00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:17.440
<v Speaker 1>people seeing bigfoot in trees. Nest Robin, I don't know

535
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:19.759
<v Speaker 1>what you think about that, or what you may or

536
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>may not have heard about that. I've heard that, Yeah, yeah,

537
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:27.279
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot up in trees, like grabbing eggs or chicks or

538
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:28.880
<v Speaker 1>whatever they're doing up there, you know.

539
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Even full sized ones or just the littler ones, or

540
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:33.720
<v Speaker 2>is there a pattern to the size of the animals

541
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:34.519
<v Speaker 2>that are up in the trees.

542
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know, just big enough to know them

543
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>as being a bigfoot. You know what I mean?

544
00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Gotcha?

545
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>So look, I have a guy who calls himself weasel.

546
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:49.279
<v Speaker 1>He's an ongoing investigator for me up in Alberta.

547
00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:50.839
<v Speaker 2>That's cool. I know a couple of guys that I

548
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:52.200
<v Speaker 2>call weasel bit for different reason.

549
00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:56.319
<v Speaker 1>I didn't say he is a weasel. That's a different

550
00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:02.839
<v Speaker 1>terminology in Brooklyn, but he called himself weasel. And he's

551
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:09.559
<v Speaker 1>actually Ukrainian. His parents came over from Ukraine and settled

552
00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:14.599
<v Speaker 1>up there. But he's a really interesting cat. He has

553
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>an infatuation more than that actually in the bigfoot creature,

554
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and he's hunting these things high and low up there,

555
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:28.079
<v Speaker 1>and he has a lot of connections with many indigenous

556
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>tribal people up in that neck of woods, and so

557
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:35.359
<v Speaker 1>people are now coming to him with reports and giving

558
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:40.119
<v Speaker 1>him heads up. But one of the things that Weasel

559
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>came on to was that there were bigfoot creatures visiting

560
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>a couple of dump sites up there, in other words,

561
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>garbage dumps. And he stakes these places out in tree

562
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:57.599
<v Speaker 1>stands at night using optics and whatnot to catch the

563
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:00.559
<v Speaker 1>creatures coming out of the woods, and it's them bears.

564
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.039
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of activity at the dumps at night.

565
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:08.119
<v Speaker 1>And he sent me photographs of what he says is

566
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:12.279
<v Speaker 1>a little bigfoot sitting up in a nest in a tree.

567
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>And he has gone to this nest site during the

568
00:30:16.519 --> 00:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>day when nothing's around there, and he said, the whole

569
00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:24.039
<v Speaker 1>bottom of the nest and the trunk of the tree

570
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>below the nest is just like dripping with crap. So

571
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>these things are sitting in the nest and pooping right

572
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>in their own nest, and it's dripping down out of

573
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the sticks and going on the tree. But he says

574
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>he believes that the parents are putting the young'uns up

575
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.119
<v Speaker 1>in the nest while they go out foraging or hunting,

576
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:51.839
<v Speaker 1>because the timberwolves, if they were on the ground, would

577
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:53.880
<v Speaker 1>kill them. Now, I don't know what you think about

578
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>any of that stuff, but again this is coming from

579
00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:58.480
<v Speaker 1>a guy then Weasel the.

580
00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:03.599
<v Speaker 2>Weasel, a guy named Weasel. Yeah, well, it sounds like

581
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.599
<v Speaker 2>he's maybe he's seeing it, has an observation, and he's

582
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:09.680
<v Speaker 2>trying to make sense out of it. He's trying to

583
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:13.359
<v Speaker 2>figure out, Okay, what's going on, because how does how

584
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:15.480
<v Speaker 2>does he connect the wolves to this?

585
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, he doesn't. He just knows they're there. And his

586
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:22.799
<v Speaker 1>theory is that they are being put in the tree

587
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:24.799
<v Speaker 1>for protection when the parents.

588
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:27.039
<v Speaker 2>On around right right, which could very well be the case.

589
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:33.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now, my brother was up in Alaska a couple

590
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.720
<v Speaker 1>of years ago. He went in by bush plane to

591
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:41.519
<v Speaker 1>fish salmon on this remote river and they had a

592
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:45.799
<v Speaker 1>guard with them that had a pump action shotgun, and

593
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:51.119
<v Speaker 1>they had huge bears, I mean walking within like ten

594
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:54.599
<v Speaker 1>fifteen feet of them on the river. And I said

595
00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:56.799
<v Speaker 1>to my brother, you know, you're out of your mind, man,

596
00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:00.680
<v Speaker 1>And he said the guard said that he carries his

597
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>shotgun with them all the time and he's never had

598
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:06.799
<v Speaker 1>to use it in over a decade. So these bears

599
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:12.039
<v Speaker 1>are so preoccupied with the fish and so stuffed to

600
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:15.759
<v Speaker 1>the fill with the salmon, they're not even interested in

601
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:18.799
<v Speaker 1>what these guys are doing. But it was told to

602
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:24.000
<v Speaker 1>him that the mother bears will put their cubs up

603
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:28.319
<v Speaker 1>in a tree, and the fella referred to it as

604
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:30.839
<v Speaker 1>what did he call it? What do you call it?

605
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:34.799
<v Speaker 1>When little kids go to daycare, like something like baby

606
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>bear daycare or something like that, they show them up

607
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.359
<v Speaker 1>into trees while they go do stuff to keep them safe.

608
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:45.279
<v Speaker 1>So it kind of rang true to me a little

609
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.839
<v Speaker 1>bit across the species a bear and bigfoot that maybe

610
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:51.519
<v Speaker 1>these guys do the same thing.

611
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:53.559
<v Speaker 4>Maybe I'd never heard that before.

612
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know what you make of that. I'm

613
00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:59.759
<v Speaker 1>just sharing information with you. Yeah. Now, I was mentioned

614
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>to Bobo earlier today. We were talking on the phone

615
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>and I said, you know, when people talk to me,

616
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>other encounters come into my mind. So it's like there's

617
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>a recessed database in my brain that's jogged when people

618
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>talk about what happened with them.

619
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:20.279
<v Speaker 4>That's a good, that's a good.

620
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:26.079
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, yeah, because there's too much, it's overloaded, and

621
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:30.319
<v Speaker 1>I can't recall everything. But when you start sharing about

622
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:35.440
<v Speaker 1>your encounter, suddenly a connected dots starts happening within my

623
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>mind and the details of a certain encounter start coming through,

624
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:45.759
<v Speaker 1>and I start to realize that there are similarities across

625
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>the board, uh with encounters with bigfoot. And I'm sure

626
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:53.880
<v Speaker 1>you guys have found that through the years, because I'm

627
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:57.839
<v Speaker 1>certainly no loan wolf here. But there are a lot

628
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>of the creatures of habit and what one does and

629
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:07.599
<v Speaker 1>one sees typically somebody else has seen the same or

630
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:10.840
<v Speaker 1>different creature obviously doing the same thing.

631
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<v Speaker 2>And probably in the same area.

632
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<v Speaker 1>Could be you know, I'm not lucky enough to have

633
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:23.440
<v Speaker 1>ongoing encounters in the same region. I shouldn't say region,

634
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>like in the same what's the word I'm looking for.

635
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, sure, yeah, local or something. Yeah, but you

636
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:31.840
<v Speaker 2>must be you must be seeing this if you're plotting

637
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:35.480
<v Speaker 2>these on a map, like the same general areas produce

638
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:38.760
<v Speaker 2>a fair number of the sidings out of that partecure zone.

639
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, for sure, no small statement I'm making here. The

640
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:50.519
<v Speaker 1>Pacific Northwest, where you guys live, is above and beyond

641
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:55.119
<v Speaker 1>any other area of the country for sidings and encounters.

642
00:34:56.159 --> 00:35:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Second to that area is Alberta, Canada, and then from

643
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:11.079
<v Speaker 1>there it's a crapshoot nationwide as far as sporadic sidings

644
00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:16.199
<v Speaker 1>here and there. Another hotspot is Maine and some of

645
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 1>the southern states, Michigan, Ohio, southern Illinois. Yeah, I mean

646
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:27.239
<v Speaker 1>there's stuff going on Montana, and you know what, guys,

647
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:32.880
<v Speaker 1>you find the food sources, you find the water, and

648
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:36.559
<v Speaker 1>you find Bigfoot. And that's the bottom line. I cannot

649
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:42.239
<v Speaker 1>tell you how many guys fishing fly fishing, whether you're

650
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.800
<v Speaker 1>drifting in a boat, standing on the shore in some

651
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:51.280
<v Speaker 1>relatively remote location. I can't tell you how many fishermen

652
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:56.360
<v Speaker 1>have sightings of Bigfoot by the shores of a lake,

653
00:35:56.960 --> 00:36:00.519
<v Speaker 1>a river, or a stream. It's just it's a credible

654
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:05.159
<v Speaker 1>you know. So they're not unlike a deer or any

655
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:08.280
<v Speaker 1>other creature. You want to get a drink, you gotta

656
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:11.280
<v Speaker 1>go where the water is. And let's face it, unless

657
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:16.679
<v Speaker 1>you're in Minnesota, there isn't exactly water everywhere you walk,

658
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:20.039
<v Speaker 1>so you've got to get to it. And you know

659
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:21.840
<v Speaker 1>they need water, just like we do.

660
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:26.679
<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and beyond with Cliff and

661
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Bobo will be right back after these messages.

662
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<v Speaker 4>Oh you know, Bill, a great story some of other

663
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:39.880
<v Speaker 4>day you have a witness an see if you remember

664
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<v Speaker 4>where it was that saw the sasquatch put its hands

665
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:45.480
<v Speaker 4>his mouth and like make a motion like it was vocalizing.

666
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:46.920
<v Speaker 4>It made a loud knock sound.

667
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:50.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. See, here's another interesting thing. I actually have one

668
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:54.719
<v Speaker 1>of my listeners who just contacted me the other day.

669
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:59.199
<v Speaker 1>He's like a field investigator and his name is Ricky,

670
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:03.639
<v Speaker 1>lives in Oha, and he's retired now. And he says

671
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>to me, Hey, Bill, what do you think of me

672
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>working on a project for you? He said, because he

673
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:13.880
<v Speaker 1>needs something to do, and he's going to use some

674
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:18.159
<v Speaker 1>application on word, and he's going to go through all

675
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the books reading them and he's going to log where

676
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>they were basically what happened the location. And I said,

677
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:31.159
<v Speaker 1>great idea, Rick, I mean, if you don't want to,

678
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:34.679
<v Speaker 1>you don't mind doing it. I'll be glad to be

679
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:38.920
<v Speaker 1>the recipient of it. You know. But the name of

680
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>that story I entitled that account it's not wood. Now.

681
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>This couple, the husband was a landscape photographer, just like

682
00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:53.280
<v Speaker 1>a hobby. He used to go out and beautiful locations,

683
00:37:53.320 --> 00:38:01.760
<v Speaker 1>doing panoramic shots, just hiking, enjoying mother nature and taking photographs. Now,

684
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:07.280
<v Speaker 1>they had entered into this area and they heard a

685
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:11.480
<v Speaker 1>loud knock, and they said, like the wife said, what

686
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:15.559
<v Speaker 1>was that? Well as this setting up their cameras and whatnot,

687
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:21.320
<v Speaker 1>She's looking with a pair of binoculars and scopes out

688
00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:25.119
<v Speaker 1>something moving around in the distance on a hillside. So

689
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:28.639
<v Speaker 1>then the husband zooms in on it, and all they

690
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:33.119
<v Speaker 1>could see was this little being that was black, and

691
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:38.559
<v Speaker 1>they saw it raise its hands to its face, and

692
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:42.119
<v Speaker 1>when it raised its hands to its face, they heard

693
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the knock again, and then the arms lowered. And the

694
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:49.880
<v Speaker 1>interesting thing was that they told me they described this

695
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:53.639
<v Speaker 1>thing as looking like a nervous man waiting for a bus.

696
00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:56.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget it as long as I lived, because

697
00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:59.960
<v Speaker 1>they said it was pacing around on this hillside, back

698
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.719
<v Speaker 1>and forth, like it was freaking on speed or something.

699
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>And when it stopped and raised its hands up to

700
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:10.760
<v Speaker 1>his face, they heard the knock and then the arms lowered.

701
00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:16.639
<v Speaker 1>So I took the presumptive leap of saying that it's

702
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:19.639
<v Speaker 1>not wood. In other words, it's not a wood knock.

703
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:24.320
<v Speaker 1>It's an internal sound made through the throat the mouth.

704
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:26.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you want to label it as

705
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:32.639
<v Speaker 1>coming out from this enormous creature that we call the Bigfoot.

706
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you think of at You.

707
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:36.400
<v Speaker 4>Know, how many times do they hear it?

708
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:41.199
<v Speaker 1>Twice once coming in that made them like kind of

709
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:44.480
<v Speaker 1>listen and look, and then again when she saw the

710
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:46.480
<v Speaker 1>creature raise his hands to its mouth.

711
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:49.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think. I think they make those noises in

712
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:51.360
<v Speaker 2>a variety of ways. I've got a I think I

713
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:55.719
<v Speaker 2>have two reports of them hitting tree, hitting stick against trees.

714
00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:58.239
<v Speaker 2>I think I have three of them second hand step clapping,

715
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:02.039
<v Speaker 2>and now there's another one at their mouth. I think

716
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:04.679
<v Speaker 2>that I think the human way of thinking is a

717
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:08.000
<v Speaker 2>little bit too rigid for sasquatches and what their reality

718
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:10.159
<v Speaker 2>actually is. We tend to think this or that, but

719
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:13.440
<v Speaker 2>nowhere in between were In all likelihood they do things

720
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:15.559
<v Speaker 2>in a variety of ways, and probably for a variety

721
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:17.599
<v Speaker 2>of reasons as well. I think that they're much more

722
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:21.320
<v Speaker 2>flexible in their behaviors than humans are in our thinking.

723
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:23.880
<v Speaker 4>Did they ever see it leave? Was it sitting there

724
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:24.559
<v Speaker 4>the whole time?

725
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? No, it did leave. It was pacing around for

726
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:29.719
<v Speaker 1>a while and then walked away out of the field

727
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.519
<v Speaker 1>of view, but it was at a great distance but

728
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:35.599
<v Speaker 1>they said, they said they knew it was a bigfoot.

729
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:38.960
<v Speaker 1>They when they saw this little thing in their glasses,

730
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 1>they said to themselves, that's a freaking sasquatch.

731
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:45.519
<v Speaker 4>Was that it was small and binoculars, but it still sounded.

732
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:46.639
<v Speaker 4>They could still hear it even though it was that

733
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:47.239
<v Speaker 4>far away.

734
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, this is the thing. The sound resonated and

735
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:57.360
<v Speaker 1>was loud and clear. So this tremendous power. I mean,

736
00:40:57.880 --> 00:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>just like you guys, you know, when you were to

737
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:04.119
<v Speaker 1>hear the howls coming from a distance, and if you

738
00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:07.880
<v Speaker 1>heard a howl coming from shorter range, my god, it

739
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:11.320
<v Speaker 1>can make your hair stand up. So these creatures have

740
00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:18.000
<v Speaker 1>tremendous power and lung capacity. I mean, they're a big bugger.

741
00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:20.599
<v Speaker 1>Just think of what it's like to be in there

742
00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:24.360
<v Speaker 1>a lion when it roars, I mean not just reverberates

743
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:28.199
<v Speaker 1>through your body. Come on, I mean, who am I

744
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:31.280
<v Speaker 1>to criticize? You know? How loud you say this thing was.

745
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:34.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, again we fall back on saying how tall

746
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:38.519
<v Speaker 1>it really was, how much it really weighed, how loud

747
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:42.559
<v Speaker 1>it was. When people are describing things, they're describing such

748
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:48.079
<v Speaker 1>things as they're totally unfamiliar with. I never saw anything

749
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:50.920
<v Speaker 1>like this in my life. I never heard anything like

750
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.119
<v Speaker 1>this in my life. This is no animal that I

751
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:57.440
<v Speaker 1>know to be in this woods. So you know, you

752
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:05.280
<v Speaker 1>have to rely sometimes on the reported expertise or experience

753
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>from people having lived their lives when they tell you something,

754
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:12.639
<v Speaker 1>and that's all you have to go by. Where are

755
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:16.639
<v Speaker 1>the experts? You know you weren't there? You know, is

756
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:19.159
<v Speaker 1>everybody full of crap? I don't think so.

757
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:23.400
<v Speaker 2>But you know some people are. And I always enjoyed

758
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:26.159
<v Speaker 2>those stories too. Can you tell us a story that

759
00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:28.079
<v Speaker 2>you've picked up over the years, whether you publish it

760
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:30.960
<v Speaker 2>or not, that you just know is complete hogwash? But

761
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 2>it was still a lot of fun to listen to.

762
00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Uh? No, good, no, no, because everything that I put

763
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:47.880
<v Speaker 1>in print, I believe gotcha Okay, And I rely again. Uh.

764
00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I've had some people go down a road with me

765
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:53.880
<v Speaker 1>and I just said, this guy is just full of bs,

766
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:57.599
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I continue a conversation trying to do

767
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:01.760
<v Speaker 1>my due diligence to be a decent car. I really

768
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to get off the phone. And that's

769
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:04.320
<v Speaker 1>the end of it.

770
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:06.639
<v Speaker 2>Do you think of the people who like that kind

771
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:09.960
<v Speaker 2>of person? Do you think that they're just pranksters, or

772
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:12.159
<v Speaker 2>do you think that they're mentally ill and believe it

773
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:15.480
<v Speaker 2>or or is it all over the board. It could

774
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:16.000
<v Speaker 2>be anything.

775
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think once in a while you got some

776
00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:22.800
<v Speaker 1>wise guy who thinks he's just going to call up

777
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:26.039
<v Speaker 1>WJ and put one over on him. But I am

778
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:31.960
<v Speaker 1>like a really prayerful and spiritual guy, and I'm telling

779
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:36.800
<v Speaker 1>you I'm pretty well tuned into eye to eye contact

780
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:41.360
<v Speaker 1>and facing off with individuals and knowing when somebody has

781
00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:46.559
<v Speaker 1>an ulterior motive. So I have no way to quantify

782
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:50.400
<v Speaker 1>that as I'm saying that to you, But I rely

783
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:56.119
<v Speaker 1>on that time and time again in my lifetime and

784
00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:59.760
<v Speaker 1>it has wrung true to me one hundred percent of

785
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:00.320
<v Speaker 1>the time.

786
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:01.800
<v Speaker 2>There you go.

787
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:05.519
<v Speaker 1>So when I hear a hunter tell me I got

788
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:08.840
<v Speaker 1>that feeling that it was time to get out of Dodge,

789
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:13.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, right on, brother, and pay attention to that

790
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:15.639
<v Speaker 1>and get the hell out of there.

791
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:18.800
<v Speaker 4>How'd you get how'd you start getting all those reports centers?

792
00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:21.159
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you're going to proportion from Canada all over

793
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:23.320
<v Speaker 4>the US. How did people know to reach you?

794
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:29.159
<v Speaker 1>Well? See, now, interestingly enough, going back a fair amount

795
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:33.679
<v Speaker 1>of years, there were a lot of little rags when

796
00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:38.519
<v Speaker 1>you went into stores and business places, you know, those

797
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:41.719
<v Speaker 1>wire magazine racks you'd see when you come into a

798
00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:46.079
<v Speaker 1>lobby of a place. Sure, all right, so I don't

799
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:48.360
<v Speaker 1>want to insult you guys, but there's a lot of

800
00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:51.760
<v Speaker 1>that crap here in New York, and I don't know

801
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:54.000
<v Speaker 1>what it's like in Oregon, but there are a lot

802
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:56.719
<v Speaker 1>of places I could go into around here, going back

803
00:44:56.760 --> 00:45:01.320
<v Speaker 1>through the decades and come across one of these free newspapers,

804
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:07.960
<v Speaker 1>some free publication, and when you went through them, you

805
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:12.079
<v Speaker 1>would see that they were interconnected with other papers in

806
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:15.920
<v Speaker 1>different areas of the country, and they'd offer you these

807
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:21.280
<v Speaker 1>ridiculously low advertising rates to put an ad in there

808
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:24.880
<v Speaker 1>for basically whatever you wanted. You could advertise, you know,

809
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 1>the Charles Atlas muscle band, you know, or you know,

810
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:31.599
<v Speaker 1>whatever you wanted to do, as long as you were

811
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:36.159
<v Speaker 1>willing to pay the fee, they would publish it. So

812
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:40.599
<v Speaker 1>you could run an article in there for I mean peanuts,

813
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:45.840
<v Speaker 1>like forty dollars for six weeks of coverage in like

814
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:50.559
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of different locations, and you could put an

815
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:55.280
<v Speaker 1>ad in there wanted. Those who have seen or encountered

816
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:59.880
<v Speaker 1>a bigfoot creature now I have in the cover of

817
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:03.840
<v Speaker 1>my books. If you've seen something, say something, and I

818
00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:07.199
<v Speaker 1>have my email in there. And then, of course now

819
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:12.159
<v Speaker 1>we have the podcast, and every podcast I do, I

820
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:15.679
<v Speaker 1>encourage people to chime in with us and contact me,

821
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:19.039
<v Speaker 1>and they do. But the other remarkable thing is, you know,

822
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I have a ton of people who give me their

823
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:22.920
<v Speaker 1>phone number or reach out to me, and then I

824
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:25.239
<v Speaker 1>never hear from them when I contact them. I don't

825
00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:28.360
<v Speaker 1>know if they get cold feet or change their mind.

826
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Another interesting thing that I'll throw out to you. I

827
00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:37.280
<v Speaker 1>also find that people who have had one type of

828
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:41.079
<v Speaker 1>encounter have had a number of things happen in their life.

829
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:45.119
<v Speaker 1>For instance, somebody sees a bigfoot, they also have a

830
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:48.880
<v Speaker 1>poltergeist activity in the house they lived in. Maybe they

831
00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:50.199
<v Speaker 1>had a UFO encounter.

832
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:54.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we've noticed that. I mean, that's real calm. People

833
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:57.719
<v Speaker 4>that have seen bigfoots, like I'd say a higher percentage

834
00:46:57.719 --> 00:46:59.920
<v Speaker 4>of have seen the UFO is also another pair of

835
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.400
<v Speaker 4>normal type you know, ghosts or entities like that.

836
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now I was mentioning to you bigfoot bigfoot.

837
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:12.199
<v Speaker 4>Bill. It might also be that those same people are

838
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:14.440
<v Speaker 4>more willing to talk about it, whereas people that are

839
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:17.880
<v Speaker 4>like more shy or worried about the reputation they might

840
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:19.679
<v Speaker 4>they might seem just as much, but you'd never hear

841
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:20.800
<v Speaker 4>about it. That could be the case.

842
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Also, another possibility is that the people who are willing

843
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:26.920
<v Speaker 2>to share the things and this happened to be that

844
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:30.360
<v Speaker 2>happened to me, maybe they're more willing to look outside

845
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:33.800
<v Speaker 2>the box at their experiences as well, Because I mean,

846
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:36.000
<v Speaker 2>I bring this person up kind of a lot. I

847
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:37.800
<v Speaker 2>gave a guy a ride home one time from a

848
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.239
<v Speaker 2>friend's house and he was kind of like poking at

849
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:43.199
<v Speaker 2>me for believing in sasquatches, And I said, what was

850
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:44.679
<v Speaker 2>the weirdest thing you've ever seen in the woods? And

851
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:46.719
<v Speaker 2>he thought he told me about a bear he saw

852
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:49.920
<v Speaker 2>walking downhill on two legs, swinging his arms with shoulders

853
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:52.119
<v Speaker 2>and all this sudden, you know, And he clearly saw

854
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:54.599
<v Speaker 2>a sasquatch, but he didn't put it in that box.

855
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:56.880
<v Speaker 2>He didn't put it in that box. So maybe the

856
00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:00.760
<v Speaker 2>kinds of people who have a hard time explaining what

857
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:04.000
<v Speaker 2>they've observed or experienced otherwise are just more willing to

858
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:07.880
<v Speaker 2>look outside the normal avenues for explanations of what they've

859
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:13.119
<v Speaker 2>experienced or see. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond

860
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:16.119
<v Speaker 2>with Cliff and Bogo will be right back after these messages.

861
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm the kind of person where pardon my friend, I

862
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 1>don't give a shit what you think about me, and

863
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I will talk to you. I will breach subjects that

864
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:36.760
<v Speaker 1>are taboo with most people, and because I don't care

865
00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:40.440
<v Speaker 1>what people think about me, I open up the subject

866
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:43.559
<v Speaker 1>matter and I'm open to their ridicule what they say

867
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:46.280
<v Speaker 1>about me. When I leave the room, I open myself

868
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:51.000
<v Speaker 1>to all kinds of stuff simply to try to gain information.

869
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Because when I talk to people and when I share

870
00:48:55.559 --> 00:49:00.320
<v Speaker 1>with them things that I believe in this that tip quickly,

871
00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:03.639
<v Speaker 1>either in a group or when they catch you on

872
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:08.559
<v Speaker 1>the side. Is when things get a little interesting and

873
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:12.239
<v Speaker 1>they get into that safe zone where they're like, I

874
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:15.679
<v Speaker 1>could talk to WJ, and I'm going to talk to them,

875
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:18.360
<v Speaker 1>And that's when you start to find all of the

876
00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:22.480
<v Speaker 1>interesting things that they didn't want to say publicly, but

877
00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:25.960
<v Speaker 1>now they will say it to you. So when when

878
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:29.639
<v Speaker 1>people feel safe with you, they will open up to you.

879
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:35.599
<v Speaker 1>And when people share secrets with me, they remain secrets.

880
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't like to gossip. I don't want to besmirch

881
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:48.320
<v Speaker 1>anybody's reputation. If you tell me something, it's mine and

882
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:51.599
<v Speaker 1>nobody else's. If you tell me you don't want your

883
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:54.679
<v Speaker 1>name used. If people tell me I could use their

884
00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:58.599
<v Speaker 1>name in an account, I don't use it. Everybody's name

885
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:03.719
<v Speaker 1>attached to every story in my books is fictitious. If

886
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:06.119
<v Speaker 1>you tell me your name is Cliff Barrickman, I'm gonna

887
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:07.159
<v Speaker 1>call you Dick Tracy.

888
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:09.599
<v Speaker 2>I've been called Dick before instead of Cliff here.

889
00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:13.679
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, if you're Jimmy Fay, I'm gonna call

890
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:15.119
<v Speaker 1>you a Robert Schmidt.

891
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I think that's great because I know a lot of

892
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:20.440
<v Speaker 2>people come seeking me to be her attention wise, you know,

893
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:22.440
<v Speaker 2>they want they want to be in the podcast, they

894
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:24.480
<v Speaker 2>want name published, and some sort of thing. I'm going

895
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:26.599
<v Speaker 2>to write her a blog post. And the best way

896
00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:28.639
<v Speaker 2>to avoid that is not to give anyone attention.

897
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just I avoid the whole thing altogether. You know,

898
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:37.880
<v Speaker 1>going back many years, like some people have said to me, well,

899
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:41.440
<v Speaker 1>how'd you get interested in this subject? Well, I remember,

900
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Jason must have been nineteen seventy something.

901
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:46.400
<v Speaker 4>I saw the.

902
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:51.840
<v Speaker 1>A clip of the Patterson Gimwin film. Now I'm going

903
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:56.079
<v Speaker 1>to fast forward to my life today, even though I'm

904
00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:58.599
<v Speaker 1>not doing this work anymore. I have a degree in

905
00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:05.800
<v Speaker 1>occupational therapy, and I am well familiar with the muscular

906
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:11.960
<v Speaker 1>skeletal system of the human body. And being well familiar

907
00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:18.760
<v Speaker 1>with that system anatomically, a bipedal creature vis a VI

908
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:27.119
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch has to have a very similar muscular skeletal system

909
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:31.440
<v Speaker 1>to that which we have. In other words, if you're

910
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:38.199
<v Speaker 1>going to have flexion, extension, abduction, deduction of limbs, body parts,

911
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:45.559
<v Speaker 1>hand movements, metatarsals, metacarpals, ball and socket joints at the

912
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:49.599
<v Speaker 1>shoulders and knees, you know they have to be similar

913
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:53.360
<v Speaker 1>to do the movements that they do, because those are

914
00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:54.719
<v Speaker 1>the movements that we do.

915
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:55.679
<v Speaker 2>Now.

916
00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:59.880
<v Speaker 1>When I look back at the Pattison Gimblin film, there

917
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:07.599
<v Speaker 1>is no way, no how that was a man, a woman,

918
00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:12.719
<v Speaker 1>or anything else in some kind of monkey suit, because

919
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:19.320
<v Speaker 1>the skin is attached to the muscles, and you see

920
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:24.920
<v Speaker 1>those muscles moving exactly the way they should when the

921
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:28.800
<v Speaker 1>body moves in the movie clip they're pitching to the

922
00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:32.159
<v Speaker 1>choir here. Yeah, there is no doubt about it. And

923
00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't give a rats ass what anybody says about it.

924
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:41.559
<v Speaker 1>When I look at that thing dead on true. And

925
00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:45.079
<v Speaker 1>that's the bottom line. Now, you look at other ridiculous

926
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:48.400
<v Speaker 1>stuff like when Andre the Giant put on the monkey

927
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:53.159
<v Speaker 1>suit on a six million dollar man, or that beef

928
00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Jerky commercial that was on a few years back with

929
00:52:56.360 --> 00:52:59.400
<v Speaker 1>the Sasquatch throwing a guy around the campsite and all that.

930
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:04.079
<v Speaker 1>Whatever suits they put on a man, they don't act

931
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the way skin does on skin. They don't act the

932
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:13.079
<v Speaker 1>way tissue does a muscle, tissue attached to the dermis

933
00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:16.800
<v Speaker 1>and the epidermis on a body. You can't mimic that.

934
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:19.360
<v Speaker 1>It's got to be connected. It's got to be real.

935
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:23.440
<v Speaker 1>It's got to be live time for it to appear

936
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:27.280
<v Speaker 1>the way it does. And that's exactly what you're looking

937
00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:31.280
<v Speaker 1>at in the Patterson Gimbling film. You are looking at

938
00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:39.000
<v Speaker 1>a living creature that Patterson just was fortunate enough to

939
00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:42.360
<v Speaker 1>have that camera within that day and catch that clip.

940
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I've never met the man, I never will. I believe

941
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:47.920
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and ten percent that what he and Gimblin

942
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:52.840
<v Speaker 1>caught that day is legit evidence. No, there's no doubt

943
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:56.199
<v Speaker 1>about it. And again, I don't care what anybody else thinks.

944
00:53:57.239 --> 00:54:00.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm not asking anybody if they agree with me, I

945
00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:05.400
<v Speaker 1>frankly do not care what you think about that film clip,

946
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:07.880
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's it. I just stand my ground and

947
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:11.519
<v Speaker 1>that's it. You could call me a jerk. You could say, boy,

948
00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:13.760
<v Speaker 1>is that guy drunk the kool aid? Yeah? Okay, so

949
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:15.599
<v Speaker 1>I drank the kool aid? What are you drinking?

950
00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:18.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Sugar free? Was I was gonna asking? I think

951
00:54:18.920 --> 00:54:22.000
<v Speaker 4>it was I think book three or volume three. Didn't

952
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:24.039
<v Speaker 4>you say? Was that the one where he had people

953
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:26.119
<v Speaker 4>in the story said they had drone footage from like

954
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:27.880
<v Speaker 4>fifty sixty feet away?

955
00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:31.079
<v Speaker 1>Then well, now, yeah, no, I did have that guy

956
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:34.599
<v Speaker 1>that was running a drone on some power lines and

957
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:44.400
<v Speaker 1>he was investigating power lines for maintenance purposes. Now here

958
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:48.440
<v Speaker 1>you go. He claimed to have footage of flying over

959
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:52.159
<v Speaker 1>this bigfoot that was traversing the power lines he was checking.

960
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:57.079
<v Speaker 1>But he wasn't willing to share the footage. That's exactly

961
00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:01.079
<v Speaker 1>like not having footage at all. Yeah, exactly, But the

962
00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:06.280
<v Speaker 1>account was compelling. Now listen, when you say that you

963
00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:09.280
<v Speaker 1>have to and I'm not saying you're not, I'll give

964
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:11.559
<v Speaker 1>you an example. When you talk about people who were

965
00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:17.159
<v Speaker 1>willing to share, willing to not something as mundane as

966
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:23.920
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago, the lobby in our hospital

967
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:27.679
<v Speaker 1>at night was fairly vacant, which is very unusual. But

968
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:32.440
<v Speaker 1>it was late, the building was closed to visitors, and

969
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:34.920
<v Speaker 1>at that hour of the night, most people are on

970
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:39.719
<v Speaker 1>their unit's working with the patients. I happened to approach

971
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:42.440
<v Speaker 1>this new security guard that was sitting at one of

972
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:46.119
<v Speaker 1>the stations, and like I introduced, I had waived him

973
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:48.280
<v Speaker 1>and said hello to him before, and I just stopped.

974
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:52.000
<v Speaker 1>And of course, as is the case with me, like

975
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:54.719
<v Speaker 1>who the freak stops to introduce himself to you and

976
00:55:54.800 --> 00:56:02.039
<v Speaker 1>starts talking bigfoot. Well me, of course, sure, So he says, oh,

977
00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you're into bigfoot. Hold on for a second, and he

978
00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:09.800
<v Speaker 1>pulls out his iPhone and starts scrolling through all of

979
00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:13.440
<v Speaker 1>these photographs. And he pulls up this photograph and puts

980
00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:16.280
<v Speaker 1>it in my face, and it's a picture of a

981
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:19.920
<v Speaker 1>guy with a glove on with his hand next to

982
00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:27.360
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful footprint in the soil in the forest. He says,

983
00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:31.599
<v Speaker 1>that's my brother's hand next to a bigfoot bigfoot track

984
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:34.199
<v Speaker 1>he found in the Adirondacks when he was deer hunted.

985
00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:39.960
<v Speaker 1>So I asked him, can I have that picture, and

986
00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:42.199
<v Speaker 1>he says to me, I don't know. I'll ask my brother,

987
00:56:43.559 --> 00:56:45.760
<v Speaker 1>and his brother told him no, I don't want him

988
00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:51.000
<v Speaker 1>to have it. I hate that, so a lousy picture

989
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:54.960
<v Speaker 1>of a glove. I don't even know the guy's name.

990
00:56:55.079 --> 00:56:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't ask for his name. I just said, can

991
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I have that picture? And I was declined.

992
00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:04.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I've had similar frustrating because it's just there's no

993
00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:07.679
<v Speaker 4>it's just ridiculous, like the paranoia people.

994
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:12.440
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, well, I mean, what can you say. You

995
00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:18.920
<v Speaker 1>can't make somebody do anything. Now I wish, I really

996
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:23.960
<v Speaker 1>really wish we had video today because I have in

997
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:32.920
<v Speaker 1>my hand my survival map from Washington State. Now, you

998
00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:38.800
<v Speaker 1>guys have probably seen clips of this, the photographs, the

999
00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:43.599
<v Speaker 1>pictures anyway at different times, and you're working with Bigfoot.

1000
00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:48.519
<v Speaker 1>I physically own the map. And this is a three

1001
00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:53.800
<v Speaker 1>foot by five foot map of the four survival training

1002
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:59.920
<v Speaker 1>areas used by the Air Force Survival School in Washington State.

1003
00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I believe it is made out of tyvek, which in

1004
00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:12.079
<v Speaker 1>the seventies Bob Vila on this old house brought to

1005
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the public's eye as a house rap. Do you remember

1006
00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:21.400
<v Speaker 1>that stuff? That's right now? I think this was actually

1007
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:26.320
<v Speaker 1>created for the military. Now on this map, which is

1008
00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:29.920
<v Speaker 1>unlike any map you have ever seen in your life.

1009
00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:34.800
<v Speaker 1>This was given to me by a lifer in the military,

1010
00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and it was given to him by a special Forces

1011
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:41.559
<v Speaker 1>guy who knew he had interest in the subject to Bigfoot.

1012
00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:43.920
<v Speaker 1>And he came to him one day and said, I

1013
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:47.719
<v Speaker 1>have something you're really going to be interested in, and

1014
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:51.679
<v Speaker 1>he laid this map on his desk. In the corner

1015
00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:55.639
<v Speaker 1>of this map, amongst other things, where they have like

1016
00:58:55.840 --> 00:59:02.440
<v Speaker 1>setting the compass for night travel, recovery procedures, celestial navigation aids,

1017
00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:09.000
<v Speaker 1>how to use your watch in the northern hemisphere for navigation.

1018
00:59:10.239 --> 00:59:12.719
<v Speaker 1>There is stuff on here that you can't believe. But

1019
00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:18.800
<v Speaker 1>other things are like edible plants, poisonous plants. And there

1020
00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:21.920
<v Speaker 1>is a section in the corner of the map called

1021
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:26.800
<v Speaker 1>dangerous animals, my friends. And in this corner of the

1022
00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:30.679
<v Speaker 1>map we have a photograph of a cougar, a moose,

1023
00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:38.559
<v Speaker 1>a badger, a black bear, an American porcupine, a bobcat,

1024
00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:43.960
<v Speaker 1>a coyote. And guess what else is on this Air

1025
00:59:44.079 --> 00:59:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Force map, my friends? Lodnoss, monster, sasquatch leaning on a

1026
00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:54.519
<v Speaker 1>boulder pile. An artist conception of the creature.

1027
00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:56.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we've all seen that map that you got an

1028
00:59:56.320 --> 00:59:57.920
<v Speaker 4>original one right.

1029
00:59:57.800 --> 01:00:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Here in my hands. My friend, anybody out here listening

1030
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:03.280
<v Speaker 1>thinks you're going to come to my house and rob

1031
01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:06.280
<v Speaker 1>this thing. It's not kept in my house, so you

1032
01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:07.199
<v Speaker 1>could forget about it.

1033
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:12.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay. So apparently our good producer Matt Prue actually has

1034
01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:16.079
<v Speaker 2>seen a copy of the same map here, and Matt

1035
01:00:16.199 --> 01:00:18.480
<v Speaker 2>has just piped in like it will probably be edited

1036
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:21.199
<v Speaker 2>out of the main episode here, but for those people

1037
01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:22.840
<v Speaker 2>who want to check this out, check out the link

1038
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:25.760
<v Speaker 2>in the show notes and Matt Pruitt will post his

1039
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:28.440
<v Speaker 2>video of this same map because he has seen another

1040
01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:31.400
<v Speaker 2>copy of it and it sounds like an extraordinarily rare item.

1041
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:33.360
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like an amazing thing. So if you want

1042
01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:35.800
<v Speaker 2>to check this out, look at the show notes down below.

1043
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:39.639
<v Speaker 2>Click that and you will see a short video featuring

1044
01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:40.440
<v Speaker 2>this same map.

1045
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<v Speaker 4>So, yeah, I've seen photos of it, but I've never

1046
01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:45.039
<v Speaker 4>seen the actual map. I never knew anyone that even

1047
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:46.000
<v Speaker 4>had a copy of it.

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01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's about three feet by five feet front

1049
01:00:49.800 --> 01:00:52.880
<v Speaker 1>and back. You could put this thing in your built

1050
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:55.039
<v Speaker 1>in pool for a year and pull it out and

1051
01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:59.880
<v Speaker 1>it will be self a, no deterioration whatsoever. But now

1052
01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:03.599
<v Speaker 1>since then, I ran into another guy. I was talking

1053
01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:07.360
<v Speaker 1>another lifer in the same branch of the service who

1054
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to about the map, and he said

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01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:13.199
<v Speaker 1>that he had gone to survival training in a different area.

1056
01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:17.559
<v Speaker 1>He was familiar with the map, the dimensions, etc. And

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01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:20.280
<v Speaker 1>he said there was no bigfoot listed on the map

1058
01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:23.840
<v Speaker 1>in that area. And I said, isn't that interesting because

1059
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:25.559
<v Speaker 1>they would have put it on there if they were

1060
01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:28.719
<v Speaker 1>familiar with having interacted with it where he was, but

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01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:35.239
<v Speaker 1>they weren't. Now, another gentleman said he was at meetings

1062
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:40.679
<v Speaker 1>in Washington where this map was seen, and you could

1063
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:43.760
<v Speaker 1>imagine how many people have actually seen this and yet

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01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:48.559
<v Speaker 1>we hear very little about it. And when the officer

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01:01:48.719 --> 01:01:52.480
<v Speaker 1>in charge was asked about the bigfoot on the map,

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01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:56.400
<v Speaker 1>he said, if you run into one of these things,

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01:01:57.559 --> 01:02:02.480
<v Speaker 1>do not show any aggression. And one asked why. He

1068
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:07.840
<v Speaker 1>said that some have and it didn't end well for them.

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01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that's age advice, you know, that's yeah,

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01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:13.119
<v Speaker 2>because people ask me all the time in the museum

1071
01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:15.840
<v Speaker 2>are these things dangerous? And and I just say, well,

1072
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:19.559
<v Speaker 2>look at them, they're potentially dangerous. I don't think they're

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01:02:19.559 --> 01:02:21.079
<v Speaker 2>out to get us, because there'd be very few of

1074
01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:23.239
<v Speaker 2>us left if they were. But if you're gonna mess

1075
01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:25.320
<v Speaker 2>with them, you're asking for it. And you look at you,

1076
01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:27.519
<v Speaker 2>look at the listen the very few stories that do

1077
01:02:27.679 --> 01:02:32.400
<v Speaker 2>have violence in them coming from Sasquatches directed towards humans,

1078
01:02:32.920 --> 01:02:35.679
<v Speaker 2>you know Ape Canyon for example, or the Bauman incident,

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01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:38.199
<v Speaker 2>and every one of those cases that people shot at them.

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01:02:38.559 --> 01:02:40.639
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you'd be cool to them. They'll be just

1081
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:43.519
<v Speaker 2>fine with you. Probably. Then again, we also don't hear

1082
01:02:43.559 --> 01:02:45.199
<v Speaker 2>from the people who never who didn't survive.

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01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:47.840
<v Speaker 4>That's right, you got to put a cliff in your

1084
01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:49.800
<v Speaker 4>will to get back to go to his museum.

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01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:52.760
<v Speaker 2>I feel free to put in your will will.

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01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Now. The other thing is that I stand by You know,

1087
01:02:57.480 --> 01:03:02.199
<v Speaker 1>when I was younger, I had new paper routes, and

1088
01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I knew where all the dogs were in the area

1089
01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:10.639
<v Speaker 1>that I rode my bicycle in, and some dogs would

1090
01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:13.760
<v Speaker 1>know you were coming buy and they'd come out looking

1091
01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:16.840
<v Speaker 1>with the tailwagon, looking to pet you for you to

1092
01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:23.920
<v Speaker 1>pet them, and other dogs every single day they were

1093
01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:26.920
<v Speaker 1>looking to get to jump on you and rip you

1094
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:28.000
<v Speaker 1>a new butt.

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01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:29.599
<v Speaker 2>So I think.

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01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:35.360
<v Speaker 1>That bigfoot creatures are like any other creature out there,

1097
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:39.719
<v Speaker 1>you don't know what you're getting. You don't know the disposition,

1098
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:43.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't know what they're thinking, what their next move

1099
01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:46.960
<v Speaker 1>is going to be, and it may be a move

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01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:51.000
<v Speaker 1>that may remove you as a living being from the

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01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:52.119
<v Speaker 1>face of this earth.

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01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:54.679
<v Speaker 4>Hey, Billy, we'll run a long time. I know you

1103
01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:57.000
<v Speaker 4>got some great stories of Goble to have some pretty

1104
01:03:57.079 --> 01:03:59.519
<v Speaker 4>like gnarly encounters. You got to those at the top.

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01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:00.679
<v Speaker 4>You can give us one.

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01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:06.039
<v Speaker 1>Let me read you where the ravens gather, which as

1107
01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:11.639
<v Speaker 1>a nest robbing incident, And I think you guys will

1108
01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:14.559
<v Speaker 1>really get a little bit of a charge at it.

1109
01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:15.360
<v Speaker 1>This you want to hear it?

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01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:17.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay.

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01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:20.199
<v Speaker 1>So this unusual siding was brought to my attention by

1112
01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:23.800
<v Speaker 1>a fellow named Oloff Jurgensen who was hunting in the

1113
01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Otter Tail range June twenty seventh of two thousand and four.

1114
01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:31.400
<v Speaker 1>And this is what Oloff said he saw. I was

1115
01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:34.320
<v Speaker 1>on the hunt, working my way through the timber between

1116
01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Zinc and sod Light Creeks, with my end goal being

1117
01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the surrounds of South Tower, which was in full view

1118
01:04:43.079 --> 01:04:46.519
<v Speaker 1>to my northeast. Having reached a point where I was

1119
01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:49.199
<v Speaker 1>about four hours into the morning. In my mind, I

1120
01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:52.559
<v Speaker 1>was thinking that I would stop for a break, when

1121
01:04:52.719 --> 01:04:56.559
<v Speaker 1>suddenly I began to hear the low, gurgling core of

1122
01:04:56.679 --> 01:05:00.599
<v Speaker 1>a flock of ravens, which seemed to be ahead of me.

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01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:03.599
<v Speaker 1>At this point, I couldn't see the birds, but I

1124
01:05:03.639 --> 01:05:08.119
<v Speaker 1>can only hear their distant calls as I hiked onward,

1125
01:05:08.239 --> 01:05:10.960
<v Speaker 1>being stimulated now by the coals of the ravens and

1126
01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:15.000
<v Speaker 1>wondering what the ruckus was all about. I had moved

1127
01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:18.679
<v Speaker 1>forward through the timber about another seventy five yards or

1128
01:05:18.719 --> 01:05:20.800
<v Speaker 1>so to a point where I could now see the

1129
01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:25.719
<v Speaker 1>ravens circling in the sky just ahead of me. The

1130
01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:28.559
<v Speaker 1>raven is considered to be one of the smallest birds,

1131
01:05:28.639 --> 01:05:32.920
<v Speaker 1>being deemed able to solve a six piece puzzle. They

1132
01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:35.639
<v Speaker 1>seek out nests of other birds, and when found, one

1133
01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:39.880
<v Speaker 1>raven will distract any birds that may be protecting the nests,

1134
01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:44.280
<v Speaker 1>while the other birds robert blind. The ravens, however, were

1135
01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:46.800
<v Speaker 1>not playing the part of robbers this day, but were

1136
01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:50.119
<v Speaker 1>circling over what I believed must be a bear or

1137
01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:55.679
<v Speaker 1>a cougar devouring a beast below them, waiting on high

1138
01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:59.079
<v Speaker 1>for the spoils to be left behind. Because of this,

1139
01:05:59.239 --> 01:06:02.119
<v Speaker 1>I was approaching the area with great caution, not wanting

1140
01:06:02.199 --> 01:06:05.920
<v Speaker 1>to stumble upon a feeding bear or lion. As I

1141
01:06:06.079 --> 01:06:08.920
<v Speaker 1>was slowly making my way through the trees and brush,

1142
01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I was now approaching a zone where I could now

1143
01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:16.519
<v Speaker 1>see the ravens circling directly above me, and still I

1144
01:06:16.599 --> 01:06:19.880
<v Speaker 1>could see no reason on the ground for them wanting

1145
01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:24.440
<v Speaker 1>to circle above. I had a relatively good view of

1146
01:06:24.519 --> 01:06:28.360
<v Speaker 1>the entire area, shy, being able to see behind every tree,

1147
01:06:29.199 --> 01:06:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and I could see no evidence of a predator feeding

1148
01:06:32.599 --> 01:06:37.320
<v Speaker 1>on anything within the forest. It was then that my

1149
01:06:37.519 --> 01:06:40.840
<v Speaker 1>eyes caught some movement well up into one of the

1150
01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:45.480
<v Speaker 1>taller pines, and lo and behold, it was a gigantic

1151
01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:50.639
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch clinging to the side of the tree, alongside of

1152
01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:55.400
<v Speaker 1>what appeared to be a large, twiggy raven's nest. Now

1153
01:06:55.480 --> 01:06:58.639
<v Speaker 1>it became obvious to me why the relenting circling and

1154
01:06:58.760 --> 01:07:01.519
<v Speaker 1>coin was taking place in the sky above this location,

1155
01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:07.440
<v Speaker 1>with turnabout being fair play. Now apparently the tide had

1156
01:07:07.480 --> 01:07:10.559
<v Speaker 1>been turned, with the nest robbers now being the victims

1157
01:07:10.599 --> 01:07:14.800
<v Speaker 1>of a robbery themselves. It was truly remarkable to watch

1158
01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:18.880
<v Speaker 1>The sasquatch was at least seventy five feet above the

1159
01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:22.840
<v Speaker 1>forest floor, with its feet and legs wrapped around the

1160
01:07:22.920 --> 01:07:27.039
<v Speaker 1>tree's trunk while holding on to an adjoining bow with

1161
01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:31.400
<v Speaker 1>one arm around it. With the other hand, it was

1162
01:07:31.639 --> 01:07:35.559
<v Speaker 1>reaching repeatedly into the nest, as I could then see

1163
01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:40.039
<v Speaker 1>its hand going to its mouth over and over again.

1164
01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:42.920
<v Speaker 1>The beast was repeating this movement, which indicated to me

1165
01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:46.199
<v Speaker 1>that it was either eating chicks or eggs that were

1166
01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:49.960
<v Speaker 1>within the nest. I watched this beast carry on its

1167
01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:53.320
<v Speaker 1>activities as I remained well hidden below in the forest.

1168
01:07:53.400 --> 01:07:56.559
<v Speaker 1>Some forty or fifty yards away from where it was.

1169
01:07:58.039 --> 01:08:01.000
<v Speaker 1>There came a point where it had seemingly had its

1170
01:08:01.079 --> 01:08:04.760
<v Speaker 1>fill of whatever was available in that nest, and began

1171
01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:08.519
<v Speaker 1>to climb into what was even a higher position in

1172
01:08:08.599 --> 01:08:13.199
<v Speaker 1>the tree, approaching something I hadn't seen before, which was

1173
01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:17.760
<v Speaker 1>yet another nest in the boughs above. This creature was

1174
01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:22.199
<v Speaker 1>now well above one hundred feet in the tree, and

1175
01:08:22.439 --> 01:08:25.520
<v Speaker 1>based on its apparent size, I was wondering whether or

1176
01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:29.399
<v Speaker 1>not the surrounding boughs could support it. No sooner had

1177
01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:33.079
<v Speaker 1>I had this thought than did I hear a loud crack,

1178
01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:37.119
<v Speaker 1>and the sasquatch, having been caught unaware by the branch breaking,

1179
01:08:37.920 --> 01:08:42.279
<v Speaker 1>came tumbling down through the tree, smashing its body against

1180
01:08:42.399 --> 01:08:46.840
<v Speaker 1>numerous branches and had a variety of different angles against

1181
01:08:46.920 --> 01:08:49.640
<v Speaker 1>its body until it reached a point where it was

1182
01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:53.800
<v Speaker 1>now in total freefall for about thirty feet, hitting the

1183
01:08:53.880 --> 01:08:58.439
<v Speaker 1>ground with a thud. I watch as the creature lay

1184
01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:03.319
<v Speaker 1>apparently dead on forest floor, with the ravens now rejoicing

1185
01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:08.319
<v Speaker 1>above it, now landing in the boughs over his body

1186
01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:12.199
<v Speaker 1>and coreing in what was like a chorus looking down

1187
01:09:12.319 --> 01:09:15.399
<v Speaker 1>on him. It was incredible to view what was happening

1188
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:18.840
<v Speaker 1>before me, having thought to myself that the sasquatch had

1189
01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:22.359
<v Speaker 1>to have died, having been the victim of such a

1190
01:09:22.479 --> 01:09:26.640
<v Speaker 1>brutal fall. I now saw one of its arms lifting

1191
01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:30.720
<v Speaker 1>from the ground, and it rolled onto from one side

1192
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:35.279
<v Speaker 1>to the other, groaning as it did so. With every

1193
01:09:35.399 --> 01:09:38.720
<v Speaker 1>groan that it made, the coreing of the ravens became

1194
01:09:38.840 --> 01:09:41.560
<v Speaker 1>louder and louder, with many of the birds now descending

1195
01:09:41.800 --> 01:09:45.119
<v Speaker 1>lower and lower in the tree as if to taunt

1196
01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the crippled beast. Remarkably, after twenty minutes of groaning and

1197
01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:55.000
<v Speaker 1>rolling about on the ground, the sasquatch made its way

1198
01:09:55.079 --> 01:09:58.720
<v Speaker 1>to its feet and with its left arm hanging limp,

1199
01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:04.840
<v Speaker 1>began to stagger away into the trees. The Sasquatch as

1200
01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:08.000
<v Speaker 1>it fell through the tree had broken through and bounced

1201
01:10:08.039 --> 01:10:12.840
<v Speaker 1>off maybe eight large limbs, which was somewhere between four

1202
01:10:12.960 --> 01:10:17.239
<v Speaker 1>and six inches in diameter. Some of them broke as

1203
01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:21.479
<v Speaker 1>its body hit them, while others he simply slammed into him,

1204
01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:24.520
<v Speaker 1>which caused his body to flip and tumble out of

1205
01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:28.800
<v Speaker 1>control until he hit the ground. I don't know anything

1206
01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:32.119
<v Speaker 1>that could survive such a fall, let alone walk away

1207
01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:36.319
<v Speaker 1>from it. When he was lying on the ground, the

1208
01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:40.119
<v Speaker 1>face was initially down until it began to roll over

1209
01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:44.479
<v Speaker 1>and back and forth. This was followed by him standing

1210
01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:46.800
<v Speaker 1>to his feet, at which point his face was still

1211
01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:51.039
<v Speaker 1>not visible to my eyes. I believe his height somewhere

1212
01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:54.439
<v Speaker 1>between the neighborhood of eight and nine feet, and perhaps

1213
01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:57.880
<v Speaker 1>five feet at the shoulders. As soon as the creature

1214
01:10:57.880 --> 01:11:01.000
<v Speaker 1>had hit the ground, the ravens descended in mass, landing

1215
01:11:01.039 --> 01:11:05.119
<v Speaker 1>into lower branches and swooping over the body, as if

1216
01:11:05.199 --> 01:11:10.439
<v Speaker 1>to taunt him for having received as just rewards unbelievable.

1217
01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:12.199
<v Speaker 2>Don't mess with ravens man.

1218
01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:14.520
<v Speaker 4>Well S, I know you got some more stories like that.

1219
01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:17.399
<v Speaker 4>We've about out of time this one, but you want

1220
01:11:17.439 --> 01:11:19.880
<v Speaker 4>to stick around for the member section, give a couple

1221
01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:20.640
<v Speaker 4>more of those for us.

1222
01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Bill absolutely, all right.

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01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:25.439
<v Speaker 2>Well, then for our members, we'll be hearing a little

1224
01:11:25.439 --> 01:11:26.880
<v Speaker 2>bit more from Bill a little bit later in the

1225
01:11:26.920 --> 01:11:29.319
<v Speaker 2>week when the new membership video is published. If you

1226
01:11:29.399 --> 01:11:31.239
<v Speaker 2>want to be a member, you can go to Bigfoot

1227
01:11:31.239 --> 01:11:34.000
<v Speaker 2>and Beyond podcast dot com and check and click the

1228
01:11:34.079 --> 01:11:36.840
<v Speaker 2>membership link or check out the show notes down below.

1229
01:11:37.279 --> 01:11:39.600
<v Speaker 2>They will lead you directly to the membership thing. It's

1230
01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:41.279
<v Speaker 2>five dollars a month and you get about extra forty

1231
01:11:41.319 --> 01:11:43.920
<v Speaker 2>five minutes or an hour of content every single week

1232
01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:47.079
<v Speaker 2>from an I understand, it's worth it. That's what I

1233
01:11:47.199 --> 01:11:49.279
<v Speaker 2>was told. I don't know. But anyway, Yeah, so that's

1234
01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:52.520
<v Speaker 2>a Bigfoot and Beyond. So there we go. Okay, members,

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01:11:52.600 --> 01:11:54.239
<v Speaker 2>we'll be talking to you in a couple of days.

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01:11:54.680 --> 01:11:56.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and folks, you got to check out Bill. Bill

1237
01:11:56.720 --> 01:11:58.039
<v Speaker 4>you said you got I know, you had like eight

1238
01:11:58.039 --> 01:11:59.840
<v Speaker 4>of them, you said you got you got ten. Now

1239
01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:01.840
<v Speaker 4>those books the Bigfoot Terror in the Woods.

1240
01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Bigfoot Terror in the Woods, Sightings and Encounters WJ.

1241
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:12.119
<v Speaker 1>She And there's ten volumes in paperback, ebook and kindle

1242
01:12:12.239 --> 01:12:16.880
<v Speaker 1>on Amazon, And then if you like the audio gig

1243
01:12:17.039 --> 01:12:21.039
<v Speaker 1>which a lot of people do, Volumes one through nine

1244
01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:23.720
<v Speaker 1>soon to be ten but I haven't recorded it yet

1245
01:12:24.399 --> 01:12:28.520
<v Speaker 1>are available at audible, Amazon and iTunes as well. And

1246
01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:31.479
<v Speaker 1>then of course there's our podcast Bigfoot Terror in the Woods.

1247
01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:36.039
<v Speaker 2>And of course all of those aforementioned things, books and

1248
01:12:36.159 --> 01:12:38.479
<v Speaker 2>podcasts and all that jazz. They are going to be

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01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:41.479
<v Speaker 2>avaiable directly to you if you click the show notes

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<v Speaker 2>below all there'll be links to all those things in

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<v Speaker 2>the show notes below.

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<v Speaker 4>Great. Thanks Bill, Yeah, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, awesome, Bobo take us out of here.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, folks, Thank you very much to WJ she

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<v Speaker 4>Have for coming on and telling us his stories and

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<v Speaker 4>what he's been learning. And until next week, you all

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<v Speaker 4>keep it Squatchy.

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