Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons. Throwing some ice,
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hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on. Thanks
for telling a friend. That's how he spread the word
about the pirate ship. Kevin's been teasing me all week.
I got somebody special coming in on Thursday. I got
somebody special coming So now I get nervous about what
what's gonna happen? Who's it gonna be nervous for? I
couldn't be more relieved when I saw that it was
Standley made. I told you to be fine. I did,
and I was like, oh, this is awesome, this is tough.
Speaker 2: I was surprised my agent could make this.
Speaker 1: Well, wives, I am surprised you should helping.
Speaker 2: Me out or really yeah you have? You are really
high on the scale.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess so that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Body of this Calibrian.
Speaker 1: Well, Stanley, their numbers are going through the roof.
Speaker 2: I can feel it all right.
Speaker 1: How many how many years in radio are you? Stanley?
How many years did you just shy of forty, just
shy of forty years and you were mostly here.
Speaker 2: But you did the most.
Speaker 1: Ten.
Speaker 2: I did Austin for ten, I did here for oh,
I did here twenty. I was in California for three.
I was in Utah for three. I was in Fargo
for seven months.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where you did a morning show. Me.
Speaker 2: I did a morning show there, did a morning show
in Salt Lake City too.
Speaker 3: You only going to Fargo for seven months because you
can only take it for seven months.
Speaker 2: When I got to Fargo, it was the beginning of spring.
All they talk about in Fargo, North Dakota is get ready,
get ready, wade o. Winter comes. You're not gonna believe
what winter is. So they go crazy. When I was there,
I mean there was more drunk and crazy partying going
on than any other town I'd ever.
Speaker 4: Been, nothing else I do.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true. There was actually quite
a bit to do. They're beautiful. They all went to
I think it was ten Thousand Lakes or whatever that
was in Minnesota. But they would all get drunk. The
whole town would empty out a lot of drinking, and
all they talked about was how bad the winter was
going to be and I got the job at WCMF
in October, Oh and moved. I was there from the
beginning of spring till October. So I never I never
had a wow missed the winter. Really, I'm here for winter,
which was no.
Speaker 1: But you were. You were doing a morning show there
in Fargo. Yeah, yeah, and then you left mornings to
program Yeah, uh okay, I did absolutely. Do you ever missed?
Speaker 2: I was a program director and morning show.
Speaker 1: Ah, okay, do you ever miss because you never seem
to miss There was never a longing I got from
you about being on the air.
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I never did. I got tired of it.
Once you do morning radio, then you can't really do
any other shift.
Speaker 1: That's true. I agree with that.
Speaker 2: And so I wasn't really a CMF. We had brother Wee's,
so there was no There was really no call for
my act, which was more of a morning zoo kind
of ye.
Speaker 1: I would have loved that, but that was it. That
was Stanley. So stan is the guy who hired me
at CMF. I was a senior at Fisher and I
sent a tape. How drunk were you?
Speaker 2: You know? I don't remember. I don't remember hiring you.
I remember hiring Mark kid that works at Wegmans now
Mark Cronin. I remember hiring Mark Krawn and he walked
in and Peter Coffrom, the general manager, had said, look
at there's anything you do with this kid, get him
in here. And he came in and somebody flaked out
that day in the promotion department or something, and I said,
can you start now? And he said yes, and I
said you're hired. I didn't even asked him any other question.
Speaker 1: The body that's funny. Yeah, I sent a tape I
was still in college. You hired me part time.
Speaker 2: You listen to my tape, you were pretty. You're a natural.
I mean you've got you got a natural. You got
that radio voice. At the time, at the time, you
had to have that voice. Louise was the exception at
the time. He was everybody else had to have the
big deep.
Speaker 3: Yeah and then uh, that big bit you did Crackhead
Theater at four o'clock in the morning Collin phone booth,
Well was yeah.
Speaker 1: I used to, because I said, I sent a tape
of every stupid thing I did at WPDH because I
was midnight to six for a year. I got it
was a mutual understanding that I was going to leave
Saint John Fisher until I could mature a little bit
between my father and the college. I was surprised, and
it still hasn't happened. I spent the summer doing Midnight
to six, and then they said you want to stay
for the you know, stay on and I said, yes,
in the morning show, No from midnight to six, stay on,
meaning when I was supposed to go back to school
at the end to August, they said, stay on for
the year. So how far had you gotten along with school?
I was three years in. I had one more year ago,
and so that was when I would call up. I
got bored playing music, so at three o'clock in the morning,
I would just open the phones so I would say who's
up and why? I would look for people who.
Speaker 2: Are in the program. Doctor didn't care what didn't listen?
Speaker 1: Didn't listen? Well, then one day said he was drinking
and he pulled over to the side of the road
and he listened, and he goes. I loved it. And
then the owner of the station was a guy named
Rob Dyson at the time, and Dyson was really cool.
It took me down to Lime Rock Raceway. I got
to see Paul Newman racing from a distance and all
he raced porsches, this guy and he said to me,
why don't you stay and do nights and then eventually
be my morning guy. And I go, well, education's a
really big deal to my family, and he said, well,
I have a building named after me on Merri's College campus.
So I went home and I told my dad, and
he goes, here's the deal. You can do that find
a way to pay for yourself. You can find your
own apartment and go to Maras, or you can I
will pay for you to finish at Fisher. He goes,
but for the summer, you have to go live with
your uncle in Park City, Park City of Utah. Yeah,
so I did. My uncle was a pilot for Delta
based out of Salt Lake, and I went and spent
the summer.
Speaker 2: There where I did my theater debut all up.
Speaker 1: In Park City, Park City, Yeah, at the Deer Valley.
Speaker 2: I don't remember the name of the theater. It was
Leonard Vole in Agatha Christie's Witness for the Prosecution.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, so that I loved it there in this
I was there for the summer, and then they were saying, Kennedy,
stay for the you know, do you want to stay
and be a lifting you want to work at the mountains.
And I was working and I was like nah. So
I went back and I went to Fisher and my
old man says, hey, you need to you need to
get a job. So I sent the tape to you
and that was it.
Speaker 2: I got hired and and I just called you in
and said, what I hear you?
Speaker 1: I don't remember you hire me to be uh promotions
or something? No to do weekends? Yeah, I was feeling
filling a weekends. Sometimes it's feeling for Dave Kane. Sometimes
I would spending on my class schedule and I would
just come in, Well, you had me, and that was it.
Obviously you're a talented guy. Wow.
Speaker 2: Business for a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in it for a long time. But
you know, things changed. The business has changed. That's the
that's sort of the I don't know what the hell's happening.
Speaker 2: Over here again. I think you're getting another pizza.
Speaker 1: But the business has changed so much, and I I
still think like there's a part of me that goes
Radio's viable. If you did it a little differently. I
think that they've gotten too big and lost touch with
the community, and you're not going to compete against like
you said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, I programmed radio stations for a
long long time, and I was big into research and
focusing on individual markets and finding out because different markets
are different. They a lot of people say that's not true.
I you know, it's all the same.
Speaker 1: I mean, back in the day, bands would come out
of areas because they got played on certain radio.
Speaker 2: Stations, love Rochester the only place they could get a
crowd YEP. And but they you know, one of the
advantages radio local radio had was that they could research
the market and figure out what the history of radio
had been in how it had influenced the listeners. Because
if you're in a market that had three top forty
radio stations and no album rock station, the tastes in
music are a lot different from a market that had
three rock stations in hotel or one top forty station.
It does make a big difference. And they've just walked away,
they walked from all away from all that twenty years ago.
And I was in it, and they're hiring me and
paying me pretty good money. To program, and I kept
telling them, look at I'm a numbers guy, okay, and
you're not giving me any numbers. So I'm just pulling
shit out of my butt this and they're like, we
trust your gut. You just do what you think is right.
Don't work.
Speaker 1: Research is just going to confirm with you. You got
lucky butt. You got a lucky butt.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, you're all good.
Speaker 1: Fine, I don't do it. That's the uh. But what
got you into radio to begin with?
Speaker 2: I always want to be in Dan Ingram?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, no, I did know Dan Ingram. Dan
Ingram was one of the MCA good guys I listened to. Well.
Speaker 2: He was a w ABC, w ABC, Oka ABC. He
was you know Bruce Harrison or Bruce Morrow. Yeah, cousin
Bruce and Brucey. There was a bunch Harry Harrison, her
Boscar Anderson. I woke up every morning herb Boscar Anderson singing.
He would sing in the morning. He would sing. At
six o'clock in the morning, my alarm clock would go
off and he would be on, it's that time again.
Here's my best to you. Are your skies all gray?
I hope they're blue? That's what I woke up to
every morning.
Speaker 1: Where was this Long Island?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, New York City radios on the zone
in the morning when we were doing mornings there you
getting up with singing some John Hyatt for everybody. That's interesting.
And I mean I just always knew that I wanted
to be yeah on the radio, and I too, And
I was in a I was from a pretty affluent
community and Long Island, and frequently, you know, my friend's
parents would say, and so, Stan, what do you want
to be when you grow up? And I'd go a
disc jockey and they'd laugh.
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crazy times in radio like things that were just.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of drugs, Yeah, a lot of
drugs and a lot of booth things were different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were very different.
Speaker 2: When I talked to kids today, yeah, about what my
life was like when I was their age, Yeah, I
mean I would all be in jail, right, you know.
I meant in l Paso, Texas, I was the assistant
program director, production director. I can't remember it. K E
LP in Al Paso, Texas, and we were in a
very nice executive center building and my boss would come
get me in the morning. The general manager would pick
me up. I went to college in the morning and
he'd pick me up and we'd go out and have
get really high I had. My roommate was from Lebanon.
He had this huge bong that we weren't supposed to
use when we'd get really high and go out and
find the dumpiest Mexican restaurants we could find. Our pasts
got a Mexican restaurant every corner, and the crappier the
place is, typically the better the food is. It's grasct
And then we would come to work and we would
after an hour or two, we would have a little
circle out right near the exit of the building, just
a circle pow wow passing and joint around. This was
in the nineteen seventies, and then you could get yourself
in a lot of trouble, but you really didn't worry
about this. Everybody was smoking pot back then, and you know,
my sixteen year old inter would come in with a
six pack of beers or at six o'clock my shift
went till seven. He come in with a six pack
of beer. It's six o'clock and we'd be drinking beer
and that was it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, No that none of that ship
flies today.
Speaker 2: No, none. Remember we had a disc jockey or one
of the talent on at night on p x Y
and he did something. He came to work slightly high. Yeah,
said he might have been slightly high.
Speaker 1: You know, I know.
Speaker 2: It was a big thing. It was a huge thing,
and I had to, you know, I had to get involved,
and they wanted, I want memos, we want this document,
and like, come on, guys, I mean, if.
Speaker 4: It was cocaine, it wasn't norm.
Speaker 2: It wasn't cocaine. Me. It seemed, I know, absolutely ludicrous
because I remembered.
Speaker 1: I think he drove the van and they thought he
was high. Maybe he did an appearance and they didn't
have somebody, so he drove the van. He said I'll
drive it, and they said he was high. And then
he wound up going down to the islands.
Speaker 4: I know exactly.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think he's teaching in Nevada at UNLV.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, interesting kid. I remember him. Yeah, And I
felt bad for him because I felt like.
Speaker 1: It was kind of I did too. I agree, and
it was it got a little crazy. That was you
mentioned the guy that you because you did kind of
two shifts in Rochester at CMF. The guy you replaced
was he was like, it could be your best buddy
or your worst enemy. And I have so many stories
about that guy. Like there was I used to play
a game in the afternoon strip trivia and there was
a woman, a listener who would always come up and
her husband traveled, and I think she was just looking
for attention, and so she would come up and it
would be her against a listener and I would never
let her really lose. Well, one day she collst me
that guy took her out to a hotel and slept
with her.
Speaker 2: Well, there was all sorts of rumors about him. He
used to use the gift certificates of O God and
then go and not only pay for dinner with the
goof certificates, but want to go food thrust the family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did that. And then there was a time
where he came running into me. There was a meeting.
He goes, Hey, if they come and ask you if
I talked to you about this, tell them yes. And
then he postdated a memo saying I had a conversation
with him, but I'm like that this guy was shady
as shit, shady as.
Speaker 2: Shit, right, and he had replaced a guy that was
like dumber in the box of rocks.
Speaker 1: I think, oh yeah, because.
Speaker 2: When I left, the station was just shy of a
ten share and we had been about a fifteen, so
everybody was panic. And I left and I'm going down
to Austin. I never hear from it. I never hear
from this guy. And I raged aft him a couple times,
say hey, you know, how are you doing? You know,
because it was a big research thing at the time.
I think they blew that all up and it was.
Speaker 4: This the one who used to play guitar on the
front porch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: And I remember within the first year of being gone,
the ratings came out for WCMF and they had an
overall of four point nine, and I thought, holy shit,
what is this guy doing there? Because I used to
think I could turn the radio station off and pull
a five, yep, and they got a four point nine.
Speaker 1: He used to He decided that he was going to
do a shift, so he inserted himself from four to
six pm, four pm to six pm and then He
used to meet women through the radio and he would
have them come up and wait in the lobby and
he'd have somebody go out and check them out, and
if they told them they were attractive, he would he
would wrap up his shift and go out. If somebody goes,
oh man, he would go. He would call front, I'm
tied up, I got a meeting, I gotta get to whatever,
and then blow these girls off and just random girls
over the request line. You got it, Call her number nine,
Call her number nine. It was that kind of thing.
Speaker 4: It was the weirdest thing.
Speaker 1: And he was one of the these guys who there
are some fat guys that have like really big calves right,
they've like because they're carrying so much weight and they
got big forearms and they think they're in shape, but
they're really not. They're just fat guys. He used to
see these guys in boxing all the time. They would
come in and after one three minute round, they're fucking gas.
They can't do anything. But they were big and so
and they thought they were big, but they were they
were forearms and legs. That was this guy. And he
came in once with shorts on, showing off his calves
He's got his kick and a pink shirt and somebody
on the morning show made a comment and he wanted
that guy fired and he went crazy trying to get
that person fired out.
Speaker 4: See who could that have been?
Speaker 1: And then and Weeze came and goes Brah the name
of the show had bruught a weed, bad bad back
and fucking like it was. I mean, it was an
actual and the ego was so big, and that was
the problem. It wasn't about the radio station. It was
about him, right.
Speaker 2: And you're always what I got when I'd call him
and say, hey, yeah, you know, how's it going. You
don't have to we don't have time for this.
Speaker 1: Well, we don't have time for this. Oh god. That
was some of the greatest. And then he went off
to be a GM somewhere And when he left, he's
like he was telling me. I was like, you're not
ready to do mornings. Within a month he's calling me going, hey,
you want to do a morning show in Vermont? I go, fuck, no,
I don't want to come to Vermont. No, U asshole.
It was like the best. But during radio you started
something called Rochester Movie Makers.
Speaker 2: That was after I left, came back from Austin, and
I knew I was going to work for CBS Radio,
and I knew they had no interest in markets like Rochester,
New York, and they were going to get rid of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The question was where they're going to hold it for
one year or five years?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: And I think they wound up holding it for about
two little than two. And I knew that when I
came back, and I didn't want to. I didn't want
to come back to Rochester because I'd been very successful
working with a guy out in Los Angeles, was a consultant,
and it was two hours is three hours a day
with a cat in my lap, and I was making
probably seventy five percent of what I'd been making on
the radio anyway, And back then, the amount of money
the consultants.
Speaker 1: Used to make, yeah business, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I had one. I had two, two radio shows in Tucson, Arizona.
All I had to do was listen to those two
radio shows for maybe four or five hours and then
compose a one hour phone call once a month with
each one of them, so maybe twelve hours a month.
They paid a four thousand dollars a month, of which
I got like sixty five percent because I was the
one doing the work. It's pretty good. And that with
that dried up. And so when that dried up, then
I came back to Rochester to worked for CBS Radio,
and sure enough, they didn't hold it for very long.
But I had had a good talent agent that advised
me on what to do, and they were very generous
with me. Even beyond that. They wounded up paying me
to not work for a year and a half at
the same salary as if I was working, which was
a good salary that was CBS Radio at the time,
and that they paid people like in New York City.
We were in Rochester, so it was it was a
great thing for me. So I had a year and
a half after CBS sold the radio station and I
wasn't going to work for Intercom. That became pretty clear
pretty quickly. I didn't want to and they so then
I had nothing to do, and I thought I had
taken some some film courses in Austin when I was
down there, because they had a film school down there
that was pretty easy to get involved in and didn't
cost a lot of money. And I didn't want to
go to rit and spend twenty thousand dollars a year,
and I'm like what It was a very simple little
process that they had in Austin. This guy was a
film you know, not much of a filmmaker, but he
had been a teacher at UT and he started his
own film school. And what you did was he came
into class the first day and he said, okay, everybody
should have a screenplay, because I told you to write
a screenplay before you came. I think it was ten
page screenplay. This would be ten minute movies we were making.
And we read. Everybody had to read the screenplay live,
like the first day or two, and then the class
voted on the top three. And there were thirty people
in the class and they split into three groups of
ten and you had to produce the films and we did.
And I thought, why couldn't I just do that here? Yeah,
you know, and not charge people money, just get people
involved and have competitions for screenplays. And then I put
a press release out and City newspaper did a whole
thing on this, just this press release on new film
groups starting in Rochester, New York. And I rented a
room in the Briton Library. I think it was free.
We're ten dollars or something, And the first day, like
thirty people showed up at the eating and most of
them were filmmakers who a lot of them were very
suspect of me because I wasn't a filmmaker and I'm
running the group right, So there was a little give
and take there, But it was fun and I loved it.
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head and finding out what makes the ticket. I had
some really really cool interviews over the years, but the
one that I still will always always be my favorite
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Her and you were there.
Speaker 2: I remember Brother Wee's.
Speaker 1: You were there in the back and it was taped
for Brother We's show.
Speaker 2: Right, Brother Weise was gonna drop the yes, drop the question.
Speaker 1: And then he's he's shoving popcorn in his face. And
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at him with popcorn falling out of his mouth and goes,
how do you ask me a question when you just
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in the background is Stanley laugh in his ASDs off.
That was the best and every once in a while.
I don't know if we still plays it or not,
but it was a great piece.
Speaker 2: I remember Brother weis interviewing Pete Townsend, okay, and that
was that was an interesting interview. Why Well, because Pete
was just it was driving Brother Weez crazy because he
was not really wanting to be interviewed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very cerebral.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and brother I don't think Brother We's appreciated anything
about I don't think brothers knew much about him. No,
so I didn't really realize how, you know, the guy's
pretty mega guy he is, but he definitely came off
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that bad, but it was clearly frustrated. You know a
lot of one size, and.
Speaker 1: Just my favorite was always I love Joe Walsh. Joe
Walsh is like my one of my favorite rock stars.
He's a good interview I think, yeah, And I think
he was in once with Who's the Glenn Frye and
we're in on Wes's show years ago, but I just
remember seeing the picture. I don't think I was around
for that, but those were I remember. Joe Walsh just
he was just funny and fun and irreverent, didn't care,
didn't seem to take himself too seriously, definitely does not
and that that's what I like. But my favorite is
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house at five o'clock in the morning and they had
been dating and she had some huge party the night before.
And I forget who he wrote who Petty wrote that with,
but that guy was upstairs and he hears her screaming
at Joe Walsh, get out, Yeah, don't come around don't
come around here, and now more slams the door, and
so that became the title of the song.
Speaker 4: Funny.
Speaker 2: You got all the behind the scenes stories of you
know the bands that they just a lot of interviews
now with you know, the the Beatles producers, Yeah, and
Pink Floyd guys. Yes, and under understanding with all those bands,
all those bands that had any sign deficant number of hits.
It's just it must have been so frustrating to have,
you know, a song that you'd written that you thought
was a hit, but everybody else in the band thought
the song yeah and yeah. I used to tell, you know,
record companies would say, you're not playing the song off
the album that we want to play, and I'd say,
I don't care what the drummer's wife wants. I'm going
to play the best song on the album.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I always thought the I always thought, how
cool would it be to have written a song? And then,
like I remember asking Lou Graham this, you write a
song or you co write a song, and it becomes
so big that you show up on stage somewhere, huge
crowd in front of you and they're singing the words back.
That has got to be wild.
Speaker 2: Well, just the whole while it's just going on and
having the audience react to your stuff. It's that alone,
you know, when I've I've done some stage work, and
you know, stand up comedy. Occasionally when you're ahead, that
feels great, awesome.
Speaker 1: There's no better high, probably no better low than bombing.
That's the trait is too.
Speaker 3: I've only experienced one of those, and it wasn't the
high the bombing, but the bombing like if you can
kind of like if you can sort of step out
of your body.
Speaker 1: There's something tough when beautiful about the body side.
Speaker 2: I always so you always learn more from when you bomb. Yes, yes,
you're not going to write new stuff if you're killing
with my olds, but.
Speaker 1: You're gonna do stand up again? Would you ever do
it if they did afternoon stand up?
Speaker 2: Maybe?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well it's late for me. This is what time
do you go to bed?
Speaker 2: Usually about five thirty. I I nap until seven, and
then I get up and have dinner and watch DV
till nine, and then I'm gone and I'm up at two.
I read for a couple of hours, and then I
sleep from four to five, and then the dogs want
to eat, and then I'm up. And in the summertime
and in the springtime, the only time I can really
farm from.
Speaker 1: Five to about eight, because you are farming, I did farm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and in the spring.
Speaker 1: Water in March because you've brought in peaches and a
huge candalope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had. Canalops are a huge hit this year,
and they've been real hit or missed for me year
after year. I the first year I farmed, I had
these candalops. They were honey dew cantaops with an orange
flesh that was were amazing. And I've been trying to
replicate those ever since and failing miserably because it's tough.
Now these candalops, it's really easy to see when they're ripe.
First of all, they're about the size of basketball. Yeah,
it is, but a lot of times to not like
I have a whole I have two whole rows of cantalopes,
probably twenty plants, and they all produce like ten cantalopes.
But you can't tell when they're ripe. A lot of them,
Like when you're in the store, you can feel that
they give a little yeah right, then they're ripe, right,
And that's what these Okay, but these are rare for
some reason. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but
a lot of times I'm I go out there and
I'm like, well that's not ripe. It's not it's not
giving it all and then by the time it gives
it's rotten. Yeah, you know, so I had a hit
this year, but cantlops are tough.
Speaker 1: Did you get Do you have a gun or anything
like a twenty two to go shoot some woodchucks and
things that come out?
Speaker 2: No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I want one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted one for my r V. I want
a rifle for the RV. I want something legal I
can take from state to state in the RV because
I travel with two Doberman pincers and sometimes another dog
or two, and so most campgrounds do not want you. Oh,
they don't even want the Doberman's lit alone, you know,
more than one dog or maybe two dogs. And I
almost always am traveling with more than two dogs. That
was the other thing I was gonna say about the RV.
The only reason I bought that damn thing was because
I wanted to be able to travel with the dogs.
Speaker 1: And I thought, you know this, it'd be careful, you know, it'd.
Speaker 2: Be perfect for the dogs. And we got back from
that trip from Utah, those port dogs. I was so
stressed that whole time. And I got back and I go,
that was no fun for you guys, that, oh was it?
They're in where we're parked in, uh, in this girl's house.
This is one of my goddaughters in Utah.
Speaker 1: And we're parked. She was very nice park the driveway
and and uh and they had big.
Speaker 2: Parties because I was there and I used to date
their mother, okay, long before I got the plumbing things
straightened out. And uh so we're at these parties and
my dogs are there and they've got there and everybody's
feeding the dogs.
Speaker 1: Every oh no, how sick.
Speaker 2: So the next day I'm like, well, I'm gonna leave
the dogs in the art are No, no, no, you
got to leave the dogs in the house. You gotta
leave them. They'll be better off in the house. And man,
I don't, I don't know sure enough left in the
house too, And that she's gotten nice white carpet, big
aisles of liquid fucking poop, brutal. And you know, when
I got back, I thought, you know, this whole idea
of traveling with the dogs, yeah, you can do it,
but they don't. Really, they don't. This is not a
treat for them. No, they're trapped in this RV. That's terrible,
and the whole rhythm, everything's off the thing when you live.
It's really interesting for me because I have never ever,
ever lived with a pack of dogs before. Always had one,
maybe two. How many do you have now? Five Jesus,
three little one, three little minpens and two domanpencers and uh.
And I'm retired now, so it's a whole different relationship
when you with your dog number one, when you're retired
from when you're working. Sure, when I was working, I
was gone eight hours a day, nine ten hours a day,
and my interaction with the dog is thirty minutes, right,
and then okay, fine, eat and go to bed. Boom,
you know, wake up in the morning, take it for
a walk, boom, and they're they're sleeping all day long
in the housing. When you're retired, it's different. Now you're
with them all the time. And now it's a pack
of dogs. I'm not with one or two. I'm with
the pack. You're like the leader of the pack man.
And I gotta tell you, I I wouldn't have any
other way. I just don't. I don't think I could
live without it because they are such great companions. They
all do the same thing. They want the same thing
at the same time every day. If I say, is
anybody hungry, Yes, let's go, let's eat. They're all excited.
We're gonna eat. Boom. Okay, let's all go outside. Everybody
goes outside. You want to go for a walk, Yeah,
let's all go for a walk.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: And it's just a completely different thing. I find it
so interesting how my life has changed, and I'm glad
for the experience because I not only have you know,
I'm with them so much more, but I'm with a
pack of dogs. I'm a member of that pack.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: And if I sit down in my house and I
have company over, my dogs all sit around me or
on top of me. Yeah, they are all with me.
Everybody else will be sitting around the room.
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All right, Kevin wants to He wanted to do a
roast in a roast battle, so I just want to
share that. Yeah, I wanted me to start writing some
jokes and stuff, and I have it in a while.
So the roast is where I mean, you can really
you know, you gotta have some thick skin sometimes with these.
So I'll give you, give an example.
Speaker 4: Give you an example. Bill, You're the human version of
mental cramps.
Speaker 3: Okay, why your eyes rolling in your head?
Speaker 4: Are you looking for your brain?
Speaker 1: Okay? All right, okay, all right, okay, so your birthday
you can lead off? All right. So Kevin has three
kids and they're all in hockey, his sons. So Kevin
is a great hockey dad, which is fitting because just
like the Zamboni, he's slow, loud, and leaves a puddle
of beer behind wherever he goes.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, where's the left track?
Speaker 1: Have a left track?
Speaker 3: He didn't play, didn't deserve it.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. The left track is the most important
when they don't deserve it.
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, okay, all right, already, you
look like a guy no one has ever overestimated.
Speaker 4: The only age you saw in high school. Your girlfriend's ted's.
Speaker 2: The only turn the god damn laugh track off when
he's delivering, laughing to laugh and jokes over all right,
you know what this.
Speaker 1: Bad, bad producing. Kevin ignores his wife so much. She's
basically a hockey puck, always getting slapped around and passed
to the next guy.
Speaker 3: Okay, guy, the kind of guy who could do cocaine and.
Speaker 1: Eat one for Kevin. All right, here we go. Kevin
is so overweight and drunk all the time. The only
cardio he gets is hauling his gut up the bleachers
and yelling at reps like they're responsible for his sex life.
What do you mean, man?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I practice he didn't make fun of you can't.
You can't call the fat guy a fat guy. First
of all, you know that's that's not cool. All Kevin's
a big guy.
Speaker 4: You look like a tobuth operator a glory hole.
Speaker 1: Uh, Kevin's a great well see, now here's another one
that I did. It's just similar. Kevin's a great hockey dad.
Because he lives through his boys success. Too bad. The
only thing he ever scored was type two diabetes. I'm bad,
all right.
Speaker 4: You look at the kind of guy that goes to
the gym to skip on the treadmill.
Speaker 1: All right, okay, alright, Kevin's uh yeah, they did. They
love it. Kevin ignores his wife so much she should
qualify for a widow's pension. The only time he touches
her is when she makes mistake, when he mistakes her
for a plate of nachos in the dark. Okay, gotta
you gotta memorize the lines. Stumble on a joke. I
paused to see if they was gonna get any reaction
after the widow's pension. Okay, I eat.
Speaker 4: Meals my family.
Speaker 3: You eat meals of family sized bags of chips, And yes,
I completely understanding irony of me the pot calling you
the kettle fat.
Speaker 1: Kevin calls hanging out in the garage. Kevin calls it
hanging out in the garage, but really it's just him chainsmoking,
crushing beers and ignoring his wife so hard she's considering
moving in with Bob the neighbor for actual human contact.
Speaker 2: That's a long punchline. But the punchline is longer than
the setup.
Speaker 3: I've seen your comedy set, and I'm ashamed to admit
I've written some of it. But thank god, the only
impressions you leave are the ones you use on the
ground when you walk.
Speaker 1: I think Kevin won that we go back to the
one that really baby left. There was one in there,
the one that you're eating coc that's a good one. Yeah,
I call it, Kevin. Yeah, that's all right, it's a
it's okay, Sanley. No, no, no, no, no, I I got
one down a little bit better. Yeah. Well, he's been
very excited about this all week, and I was like, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think the thing that I find so frustrating about politics
is liberals really, which I consider myself a little.
Speaker 1: Bit Yeah, and uh well, I wish more people would
say that.
Speaker 2: I uh, I think the thing that liberals don't understand.
Two things that liberals don't understand is structurally, we're at
a huge disadvantage in this country and in the world
because typically liberal movements are made up of several smaller groups,
and conservatives are made up of typically two big business
and religion. Right, and as long as they can throw
each other at bone every once in a while, they
can keep each other happy, whereas with with liberals, it's
you know, gays, uh, immigrants, maybe lesbians, whatever, there's there's
a half a dozen of them. They're slipping my mind.
They all are. But podcasters podcast maybe not all podcasters,
the most big podcasters are, at least they say they're not.
I think the money is in it, and the money,
but we're splintered, we as a group, and it's very
difficult to get people to understand that. Structurally we're a
deficit to begin with. So we have to unite, and
it's almost impossible. I mean, we're still fighting. The liberals
are still fighting over twenty sixteen. The big piece is
we're arguing now about who's going to be the presidential
candidate in twenty twenty eight mine that's all that's all
you talk about. Is it going to be new the
guy in California?
Speaker 1: Who's the cons.
Speaker 2: And that's not what we should be focused on. The
presidency is nothing without the Senate and without the House.
And we've got the House and the Senate, major, major
numbers of those people are up for re election in
two years, not even two years. A year and a half,
not even quite a year and a half, but fighting
about who we're going to nominate in twenty twenty eight.
It doesn't matter who we nominate in twenty twenty eight
if we don't have the House and we don't have
the Senate. So it's really important for liberals to understand
that we have to focus on what's important and what's important,
that the president is just a show piece and Donald
Trump isn't easily the most effective president we've ever had
since this country's been effected because he knows that the
only power of the presidency is the bully pulpit. That's
what the president does. He takes that bully pulpit like
nobody's ever done it and nobody will ever probably do
it again. I mean, I remember when Barack Obama was president.
After ninety days, the big thing was people are tired
of Obama. They don't want to hear anything more from
Obama after ninety days, so he toned it down. That's
not what Donald Trump does. He rips it up. The
motherfucker has been above the fold every day for ten years. Yeah,
you gotta give him that.
Speaker 1: I have said often that if you believe in something,
called the law of attraction, where you know, you can
kind of speak things into existence. This is what people
will say. I go, he does not speak negatively about
himself or about anything he's involved in. It's always the biggest,
the best. It's a big, beautiful bill. It's this, it's that.
Whether I don't know what it is, I'm just looking.
I'm just looking at the pattern throughout his life. I go,
holy shit, he has And you're right. That's a great
book written Fire and Fury. There were two books written
after the twenty sixteen campaign.
Speaker 2: One of them was from that guy that looks forward, no, no,
the consultant that he has that looks like he's got
off or something else. I can't remember, Steve somebody really
And they talked about it and in this book, and
it's totally come to be. All we do is no
shit at the wall. Yeah, and keep them talking about
other ship. And that makes no difference whatsoever, whether they
talk about it, whether you know, uh, you know, like
single Gate was a great example of them doing this
because single Gate was a legitimate problem for them. I
mean that National secrets. Yeah, this was a bad one.
If they could have really at least a moron that's
running the Defense Department could have lost his job, but
he didn't because the next day Donald Trump talking about
running for a fourth term, a third term, you know,
and and the podcast everybody believe he's gonna run for
a third term. Well he's not gonna run for a
third term. Another part is gonna quit next year. He's
gonna get somebody to take over there. If I wouldn't
be a bit surprised with what he puts. That little
schmuckert's the vice president as president, so he can run
as a president. All he's got to do is get
the guy to say, look at you. Make sure that
I get taken care of it. None of my family's
prosecuted for anything, and I'll take care of you, and
then I go play golf of the rest. I'm I
don't have to keep doing this every day. I would bet,
but that's my prediction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I it's interesting, and I I guess I'm
glad I'm alive to see it would be the thing
because only if nothing else, like I always think this
to your point with the Senate and how I always
think what affects my daily life is usually local politics, right,
not so much of the National and so, and we
don't pay enough attention to that, and a lot of
this other shit is just noise. I don't watch the
news as much because I find it very depressing, and
I like to try to be a little bit on
a higher vibration, so to speak, and so I will
do that. There are times I turn it on. I
want to see what's happening, but I'll read. I'd rather
read it. It's less impactful than hearing somebody go today,
change it. Stanley. I am honored that you took all the.
Speaker 4: Old took it, took it.
Speaker 3: The supervisor of RAYGA to get Stanley command is a
friend of mine.
Speaker 2: Oh really, you got the supervisor Raga.
Speaker 4: Mister Brockta is a good friend of mine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my son did.
Speaker 2: Really, he probably knows my name because I ran for
office over there? Is it? Brad? You're talking about be Rad?
You know he's he's all right, he's a good guy.
And I gotta say it's all Republicans. Yeah, and I
you know this is you're probably wrapping this.
Speaker 1: I was trying to, but go ahead.
Speaker 2: This is something that's frustrating for me when I ran. Okay,
because I ran and I'm talking to I couldn't tell
these I should say this. They won't be listening. Some
of the dumbest scrap I hear comes out of the
Democratic committees that I'm on. Yeah, I had one.
Speaker 1: I had one.
Speaker 2: I had one lady. I had one lady. I think
she's still in the committee. And she told me one
day at a picnic, she said she couldn't vote for
Randrew Cuomo. And I said, why not. He's a he's
a good Democrat, and he's he's done a pretty good
job as governor. He got gay marriage in before long.
He got good gun control laws in here that have
actually saved a few lives. What what is it that
you don't like about him? He's the reason that children
are texting while they're driving now. And I said why, why,
Why would you say that? He made it illegal for
them to talk on their cell phone while so now
they text on their cell phone. I said, you weren't serious.
Speaker 1: You can't be serious. Now there's a touch free right
New York City is you can't touch your phone while
you're driving, right, you get a ticket. But the whole
idea and did anything but sign the bill?
Speaker 2: He didn't do it. No, Yeah, yeah, and that's that's
the kind of thing that you know, I just go.
Speaker 1: There's non thinking and and ridiculous, and sometimes I think
we go to extreme and everybody's out for their own
interest or not looking at the right thing, you know.
I mean, bail reform is a big one that has
caused lots of problems for people right right with all
these keys that had been selling his kid after kid
that got out got out. I think they I think
the kid the guy who was stocking women on the
canal and then followed somebody. He had been released two
or three times. But again, but the spirit of the
law that was made I think was good.
Speaker 2: Was good. But then they want to they want to
get rid of it. That's the guy I was talking.
I can't remember the stupid Republican's name. That the first
thing he did to me, it was at the computer
sports launching one time. He comes up to me.
Speaker 1: He goes, it's dead criminals out on the street, and like, no,
they're not.
Speaker 2: They're not letting the criminals out on the street anymore
than they're letting the millionaires out on the street. They
can they can pay their pay for bail. I mean,
they haven't been convicted of anything. They shouldn't be in prison.
We don't put enough money into our justice system so
that they get rapid rises, right, So they need to
be able to get out if they haven't committed a
violent act. Okay, So if they are, you know, taking
advantage of that law, then you modify the law. But
you don't get rid of the law, which is what
they want to do because they want to keep They
don't like poor people breaking the law, so they want
to put them away, so they don't bring it right.
Speaker 1: And I think the spirit of the law to me,
and I've said this all the time, is great. But
then what happens is it's like, you know, the road
to hell is paved with good intentions, all of a
sudden it goes too far in some way. And is
there a way to put guardrails on these things?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Every but every action has a reaction, right, So
you've just got to deal with the reaction. You got
to bring it back. But that's not what they want
to do. They want it they want to hyper bob
or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they want to make it all hyperbole and it's
the worst in the world and things people.
Speaker 2: And you know, these they were letting violent criminals out. No,
they weren't letting violent criminals. They were leading mischievous kids out,
you know, and if they were violent, then they couldn't
do it because that was part of the law.
Speaker 4: We've hit the song Candles to the.
Speaker 1: God. Those fights are the best. Oh, and Dave would
get pissed. He would come storming in and screaming because
it was all the commercials that were left. That's what
you would get. H Yeah. For Stanley Maine, Kevin Muir,
I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you on Monday. I didn't
know what to do.
Speaker 3: I'm turning a TV on to rule a letter to
you and stopping by the Dagnant about the year in estate.
Speaker 1: You see, they were looking forward, kind of light with
tennis