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<v Speaker 1>It's Nightside with Dan Ray. I'm Debs Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, Nicoll Dad News in the Red

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<v Speaker 2>Sox tonight. Boy, I thought they were starting to roll

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<v Speaker 2>last night. There's still a few winnings left there. May

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<v Speaker 2>they maybe they could take tunor row from the Birds

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<v Speaker 2>of Baltimore. We'll see. My name's Dan Ray, host of Nightside,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is Debate Night in America. They talk about

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<v Speaker 2>Hockey Night in Canada and Sunday Night football and of

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<v Speaker 2>course all the great sporting events that all of us

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<v Speaker 2>have grown to love over the years. Well those of

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<v Speaker 2>us who are into politics, this may be the Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl of twenty twenty four. Rob Brooks is back in

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<v Speaker 2>the control room tonight, and we are diverging from our

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<v Speaker 2>normal schedule here in the first hour tonight, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to open up the phone lines, give you an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to chime in as to what you will be looking

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<v Speaker 2>for tonight. If you happen to be an undecided voter,

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<v Speaker 2>with love love to hear from you as to what

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<v Speaker 2>you're looking for. If you're a Trump voter, or a

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<v Speaker 2>Harris voter, or Republican or a Democrat, this is an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity for you to call and talk about the strength

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<v Speaker 2>of your candidate, what your candidate will emphasize, or perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>the weakness of your candidate's opponent. Either way gives you

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<v Speaker 2>a chance here before the debate to put a stake

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<v Speaker 2>in the ground and tell us how you think this

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<v Speaker 2>will go. We, then, of course, will carry the debate

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<v Speaker 2>the ABC News debate ABC News twenty twenty four presidential debate, which,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, may be the last presidential debate of

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<v Speaker 2>this year. For those of you who are debate junkies,

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<v Speaker 2>this could be it. Both the Trump campaign and the

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<v Speaker 2>Harris campaign have not committed to any subsequent debates, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would suggest that if either one of these candidates

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<v Speaker 2>have a good night tonight, I mean on the level

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<v Speaker 2>of the night that Donald Trump had in June when

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<v Speaker 2>he debated President Joe Biden. Sometimes you have to remember

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden is still president, and he is certainly in

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<v Speaker 2>the background, but he will be part of this debate tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's going to be some references to him,

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<v Speaker 2>but this could be it. This could be it. In

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<v Speaker 2>the past, my recollection has been that the National Commission

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<v Speaker 2>on Presidential Debates has run the program. They have generally

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<v Speaker 2>designated three universities around the country to post one of

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<v Speaker 2>these debates. I was reminded tonight that the one of

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<v Speaker 2>the two thousand debates between then Governor George Bush and

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<v Speaker 2>who eventually became President, George Bush forty three and then

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<v Speaker 2>Senator well then Vice President alb War, former senator from Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 2>was held at UMass Boston, my alma mater, back in

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<v Speaker 2>the year two thousand and of course that it's been

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<v Speaker 2>it's been a variety of schools, but this year, for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason, and it's a little unclear to me why

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<v Speaker 2>the Commission on Presidential Debates has taken a back seat now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they were kind of caught by surprise when

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<v Speaker 2>President Biden, in I think it was late May or

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<v Speaker 2>early June, challenged Donald Trump to a debate, which president

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<v Speaker 2>former President Trump accepted, which of course we know was

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<v Speaker 2>hosted by CNN. Jake Tapper and Dana Bash were the questioners,

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<v Speaker 2>and we know how that turned out. It basically forced

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic Party to look for a different presidential candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>We can talk about that some other night. Tonight, what

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about is what are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to be looking for let me tell you what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to be looking for, and maybe you will agree

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<v Speaker 2>or disagree. I want to know what questions will be asked,

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<v Speaker 2>what topics will be covered. This debate is only ninety minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>and apparently there's no opening statement. There will be closing remarks,

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<v Speaker 2>and just to set the scene a little bit for you,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have not heard, President Vice President Harris is

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<v Speaker 2>bringing a couple of guests. Now apparely these guests and

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<v Speaker 2>staff and some political leaders who basically go to the

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<v Speaker 2>spin room after the debate splits. A spin room, Dan Well,

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<v Speaker 2>A spin room is where all of the political reporters,

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<v Speaker 2>whether they're video with camera crews or radio reporters with

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<v Speaker 2>important papers around the country New York Times, Boston Globe,

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<v Speaker 2>all the different you know, LA Times, Chicago Tribune. They're

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<v Speaker 2>who are elected officials or officials of either party, and

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<v Speaker 2>their job is to put as good as spin on

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<v Speaker 2>the performance of their candidate as they possibly can. So

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans, no matter what are going to happen, is

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<v Speaker 2>going to We'll be telling us Donald Trump had a

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<v Speaker 2>terrific night. He showed why he should be reelected, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats will be doing the same thing, telling all of

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<v Speaker 2>the assembled media that Vice President Harris had a great night.

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<v Speaker 2>Now a couple of pieces of information that might be helpful, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the vice president President. Vice President Harris has a couple

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<v Speaker 2>on her guest list.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump's former press secretary of ten days, Anthony Scaramucci,

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<v Speaker 2>the mooch as he's called in New York. He was

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<v Speaker 2>he campaigned to become the press secretary for the Trump administration,

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<v Speaker 2>lasted ten days. Uh, and a security official. Not anyone

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<v Speaker 2>whose name jumps out at me, Olivia, Troy Troye. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's TROYA. I don't know. There are other Republicans who

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<v Speaker 2>have endorsed Vice President Harris. Former Vice President Dick Cheney,

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<v Speaker 2>also known Darth Vader. I cannot imagine the Democrats even

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<v Speaker 2>accepting Dick Cheney's endorsement. But that's okay because along with

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<v Speaker 2>Dick Cheney came Congresswoman Liz Cheney, former National security adviser

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<v Speaker 2>John Bolton, former Defense Secretary Mark Esper. They will not

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<v Speaker 2>be in, They will not be in Philadelphia. President as

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<v Speaker 2>far as I know, but these are some significant Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>who have who have endorsed the vice president. Vice President

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<v Speaker 2>Pence didn't realize that the former Joint chiefs of Staff

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<v Speaker 2>Belmont Hill's own Mark Milly. He's certainly General Mark Milly.

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<v Speaker 2>You would expect that. Adam king Zinger, the Republican. Other

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<v Speaker 2>Republican member of Congress on the January sixth Committee, Stephanie Grissom,

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<v Speaker 2>who was Milania Trump's press representative, media representative, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Lieutenant Governor of the Great State of Georgia, a Republican

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<v Speaker 2>named Jeff Duncan. Despite all of those endorsements, the polls

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<v Speaker 2>suggest that anywhere from ninety three to ninety five percent

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<v Speaker 2>of registered Republicans around the country are sticking with Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>at least up until now. Under the ABC rules, tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>no live audience, So this first time, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>that former President Trump and the current Vice president have

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<v Speaker 2>never been in Bill have never met. I guess they've

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<v Speaker 2>been in the same room maybe for a State of

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<v Speaker 2>the Union address. They each get two minutes to answer

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<v Speaker 2>a question. There's a minute for a robutto I guess

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<v Speaker 2>minutes for closing remarks, So now we're down to this

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<v Speaker 2>ninety minute debate is already down to about eighty six minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many subjects are going to cover,

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<v Speaker 2>and the subjects and the questions that are chosen I

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<v Speaker 2>think are most important. The questions will be asked by

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<v Speaker 2>the host of the ABC nightly newscast, David Muir and

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend host of the I Guess World News Tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>Lindsey Davis. There will be two commercial break, so there

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<v Speaker 2>goes a few minutes out of the ninety minutes. No

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<v Speaker 2>pre written notes, they count bring cheat sheets onto the stage,

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<v Speaker 2>they compering any props onto the stage. There will be

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<v Speaker 2>no questions or topics provided to either candidate in advance. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is their first meeting. The question I would ask

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<v Speaker 2>all of you, will or will they not be a handshake.

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<v Speaker 2>I had predicted there would be a handshake between former

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump and President Joe Biden June I was dead

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<v Speaker 2>wrong on that. I hope these two candidates shake hands,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not at the beginning, but certainly at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>If there is no handshake, I will be disappointed, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think the country will be disappointed. The debate is

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<v Speaker 2>being held in Philadelphia at the National Constitution Center, certainly

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<v Speaker 2>historical location. When we get back, I'm going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about some of the issues that should be should should

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<v Speaker 2>be raised by the moderators. I have never moderated a

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<v Speaker 2>presidential debate of any sort. I have moderated congressional debates.

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<v Speaker 2>I have moderated a gubernatorial debate in twenty ten between

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<v Speaker 2>Devell Patrick and Charlie Baker, so I know a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about moderating a debate. Also. Tim Cahill was involved

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<v Speaker 2>in that, then the state treasurer of Massachusetts who had

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to all of this. I'd love to hear

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<v Speaker 2>from you your thoughts pre debate. What are you looking for?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you expect? Six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>or triple eight nine to nine, ten thirty. Let's load

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<v Speaker 2>them up quickly. I'll get to as many of you

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<v Speaker 2>as possible in the nine o'clock hour. We'll be cutting

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<v Speaker 2>away at about eight fifty eight. We'll have the debate

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<v Speaker 2>in its entirety right here on WBZ News radio. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you're listening on the radio, stay with us. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're in a caros somewhere, stay with us. We'll take

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<v Speaker 2>you all the way, and then when the debate ends,

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<v Speaker 2>we will go immediately to your reaction, what you feel

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<v Speaker 2>is important, and perhaps if there was a moment in

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<v Speaker 2>this debate. I think the moment in the d in

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<v Speaker 2>the debate from June was when President Biden was answering

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<v Speaker 2>the question kind of the The answer went nowhere, and

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<v Speaker 2>at some point one of the panelists asked Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see if there is a moment in time tonight

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<v Speaker 2>on either side which will live on beyond the debate. Tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>You have the numbers. My name's Dan Ray. This is

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<v Speaker 2>Night Side. I'm excited. I hope you're excited. Back on

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios. I'm WBZ, the news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>So as we head towards the nine o'clock hour, imagine

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<v Speaker 2>the butterflies that both of these candidates must be feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they will probably be I'll bet seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>million people who will watch this tonight. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it will be as many as the Super Bowl, which

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<v Speaker 2>is generally over one hundred million. But at night, a

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, so they'll catch it on the rebound.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll catch it on the replay. But if you're interested

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<v Speaker 2>and want to tell me what you think is going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen, give me a prediction, give me an idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel free. That's what this show is all about. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a talk show. You have an opportunity to express yourself

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<v Speaker 2>and express your point of view literally to tens of

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of people throughout New England and across the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go first to Joe in Belmont. Joe, you

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<v Speaker 2>are first up to. I appreciate your patient. Let's start

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<v Speaker 2>it off. Joe, go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Dan, like I like to say, you always hear this

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<v Speaker 3>from me. It's better to light a candle than to

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<v Speaker 3>curse the darkness.

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<v Speaker 2>You have lit a lot of candles, Joe, There's no

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<v Speaker 3>But one of the moderateors, I would like to ask

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<v Speaker 3>Trump a question about his twenty twenty five agenda and

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<v Speaker 3>his isolation. No, I know it takes a smart man

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't, when it does not take a policeman. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm hoping that his isolation policies will stop the New

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<v Speaker 3>World Data from advancing. Another code word from the New

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<v Speaker 3>World Daughter is globalization, and I think Trump is against

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<v Speaker 3>that with his isolation policies. What do you think, Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm more interested in your point of view. I

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<v Speaker 2>in military actions overseas. We'll have to see. I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 2>that question is asked. It's gonna be interesting, Joe, to

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<v Speaker 2>see what questions are chosen. I have a list of

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<v Speaker 2>questions here or subjects that I hope will be covered

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<v Speaker 2>during this debate. It will be interesting to see how

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<v Speaker 2>tough the questions are to each of the candidates, meaning meaning,

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<v Speaker 2>if if they asked Trump questions about Jane or a sixth,

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<v Speaker 2>and on and on about how unfair the election of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty was that's a mistake for Trump, because I

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<v Speaker 2>the election of twenty twenty. So if that question is

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be interested to know how much either of the

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<v Speaker 2>would seem to be the Republicans would call her flip flops.

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<v Speaker 2>the hosts, the questioners, the moderators, and it will be

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<v Speaker 2>the question. The question will be how moderate are the moderators.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see what happens. I don't know quite what to

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<v Speaker 2>expect tonight. Who do you think will carry the night? Joe?

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<v Speaker 2>If you had to pick a winner in advance? I

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<v Speaker 2>know you're a top supporter.

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<v Speaker 3>Right Dan? What do you think about the New World Daughter?

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<v Speaker 3>I know you read Pat Robinson's book written in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not someone from Joe in all honesty, In all honesty,

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of that comes down to cliches

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<v Speaker 2>and comments, and it means different things to different people.

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<v Speaker 2>I want the United States to be the strongest both

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<v Speaker 2>economically and militarily of any country in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think globalization could hurt our country in the

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<v Speaker 2>Well, globalization can help in some respects. I don't see.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't want to see important industries shipped overseas,

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<v Speaker 2>if that's what you're that's if that if that is

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<v Speaker 2>what you mean about globalization. No, I want our industries

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<v Speaker 2>to stay at home. We learned that during the COVID crisis,

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<v Speaker 2>out that virtually all of the computer chips which are

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<v Speaker 2>What happens if China goes into Taiwan and basically takes

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<v Speaker 2>We got to get those computer chip manufacturers home home

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<v Speaker 2>to the United States of America. That's what I am

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<v Speaker 2>concerned about. When you talk about globalization. Do I think

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<v Speaker 2>That's the flip side of globalization that might help. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's you can't reduce it just to one word, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>is what I'm trying to say it. You may disagree

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<v Speaker 2>with me, but go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Dan, picture the world is going to get it strength

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, fair enough. Well maybe maybe Putin's the anti Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Joe. Yeah, okay, all right, Joe. I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to stay away from you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you have your point of view. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>you called and you had a few minutes here to

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not singing from the same song page on that. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You're my friend, uh and I and I respect you,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think that we would disagree fundamentally on our concerns.

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<v Speaker 5>Here.

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<v Speaker 3>We can always disagree peacefully.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. Absolutely reasonable people can disagree reasonably. Thanks Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk again. Appreciate people tonight. Thank you, Joe. Quite

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<v Speaker 2>back at you back that gotcha six one seven, two

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<v Speaker 2>four ten thirty six one seven, nine three ten thirty

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<v Speaker 2>know what question you would like to ask either President Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>Home of President Trump or Vice President Harris. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a list of issues here and i'd like to see

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to add to the list I got

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<v Speaker 2>Steven rent them waiting, and again I would emphasize to

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<v Speaker 2>you feel free to just listen to debate with us

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<v Speaker 2>on radio, and as soon as it's over, let us

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<v Speaker 2>know who you think. One We're coming back on Nightside

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<v Speaker 2>right after the news break at the bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a whole list of questions, but I prefer

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<v Speaker 2>to hear yours. Okay, let's go to Steve and rent them. Steve,

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<v Speaker 2>you were next on nights. I appreciate your calling in.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for holding through the news. Go right ahead, Steve.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, good evening. My prediction is they won't shake hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Trump will come out on top if he

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<v Speaker 5>sticks to her flip flop issues. But my question would

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<v Speaker 5>be is on the border in the cost to the

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<v Speaker 5>American people a year after year, So that right now

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<v Speaker 5>you've used ten millions and saved the cost to have

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<v Speaker 5>them per years anywhere from what sixty five to eighty

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<v Speaker 2>You're looking at it, well, I would think that I

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<v Speaker 2>would think that's pretty close to reality, particularly if you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to house people in hotels. So that's a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good number. Never mind the kids that are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be added to school systems. You're going to have to

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<v Speaker 2>hire a new teacher. That's tremendous cost. Look in Massachusetts alone,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a billion dollars last year, and it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>a billion dollars this year in fiscal twenty five, So

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<v Speaker 5>So if you just do rough math, you're looking anywhere

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<v Speaker 5>from eight hundred billion to a trillion dollars for the

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<v Speaker 5>ten million over the last four five years. But there's

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<v Speaker 5>also a group that have been here longer than that,

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<v Speaker 5>And if Ama got elected, what would that number go

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<v Speaker 5>grow to? Twenty? And the idea is they're running out

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<v Speaker 5>And so that to me, all of everyone in America

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<v Speaker 5>and that number could have been used for the homeless,

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<v Speaker 5>vets and Social Security medicare, I think that would be

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't agree with you more and that would be

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<v Speaker 2>debt right now thirty five trillion dollars you obviously I

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<v Speaker 2>a year, and when your debt exceeds the amount of

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<v Speaker 2>in that. If let's say you work and you make

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna be taking twenty percent of your salary. Just

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<v Speaker 2>do the math to pay off your debt, which you'll

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<v Speaker 5>We're in trouble, yeah, we definitely are. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>the younger crowd because they've been living by credit card

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<v Speaker 5>and digital dollars and I don't know who's paying their bills,

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<v Speaker 5>but somehow they the younger group has to realize that

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<v Speaker 5>the debt that their parents and grandparents that are saddled

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<v Speaker 5>them with is going to come out of their paycheck.

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<v Speaker 5>And so if they keep voting in the Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 5>tuitions and everything else some more. It's like you say,

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<v Speaker 5>the dollar is going to get devalued, and we are

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<v Speaker 5>points or gets somehow gets to that, if they don't,

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<v Speaker 5>you know that question, If they don't or try to

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<v Speaker 5>skip it, I think you do that again.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be really interesting to see what the

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<v Speaker 2>moderators of ABC, David Muir, Lindsay Davis have tremendous influence

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<v Speaker 2>and power tonight. There have been moderators before which was

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<v Speaker 2>shown to be biased and their questions. I thought Jake

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<v Speaker 2>Tapper and Dana Bash were very fair in the Trump

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<v Speaker 2>Biden face off in June. I think that Muir and

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<v Speaker 2>I will talk about that at ten thirty tonight because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to chart the questions. I'm going to chart

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<v Speaker 2>the difficulty of the questions and who who the more

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<v Speaker 2>difficult questions are directed to. I'm gonna i will give

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<v Speaker 2>you my my read on this debate from not only

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<v Speaker 2>of the of President former President Trump and Vice President Harris,

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<v Speaker 2>but also of the ABC moderators Trust me on that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I agree with you. I liked the format of

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<v Speaker 5>their last debate, and I hope that runs trued again tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Steve, I appreciate you call very much. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much.

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Please keep calling the program. You're a great call. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me go next to Geronimo in Maine. Geronimo, welcome to Nightside.

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<v Speaker 5>How are you all right? Thank you, good evening. Vice

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<v Speaker 5>President Harris as a follow up question to the previous

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<v Speaker 5>According to Peter Sweitzer's book Profiles and Corruption, when you

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<v Speaker 5>and he was thrown in jail, and you single handedly

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<v Speaker 5>released him out on the street, whereupon he immediately committed

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<v Speaker 5>a brutal rape and murder of a young woman, whose

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<v Speaker 5>Why didn't she deport him? If she had deported him,

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<v Speaker 5>our beloved daughter would still be alive today. So my question,

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<v Speaker 5>Madame Vice President, is why did you release him? Why

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<v Speaker 5>didn't you deport him? And what were you thinking?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, I'll tell you this, if even David Muir

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<v Speaker 2>That's a terrific question. I mean, they can be they

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<v Speaker 2>can be tough questions asked fairly, both of both Harris

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<v Speaker 2>I hope we don't see softball questions, and I hope

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<v Speaker 2>that we don't see questions where I'd like to see

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<v Speaker 2>them break into some areas that we really don't understand,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know, okay, And that is an area that

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<v Speaker 2>that I think she needs to answer for, to be

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<v Speaker 2>really honest with you, because.

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<v Speaker 5>All the key yes, that's not the only I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>going to go into a long litany, but that is

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<v Speaker 5>not the only example of Kambala Harris's prosecutorial misconduct as

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<v Speaker 5>district attorney and as attorney general.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, there has been. I think at one point

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<v Speaker 2>she's she supported gender a lot realignment surgery for prison inmates,

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<v Speaker 2>even if they were illegals who had come here. So

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<v Speaker 2>the idea is, we can't take care of our homeless terence,

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<v Speaker 2>but we can provide gender alignment realignment surgery for someone

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<v Speaker 2>who has come here illegally and who we have imprisoned.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean anything, anything twisted or questionably immoral at other

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<v Speaker 5>taxpayers expense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, the ideas. You know, I'm fairly open minded.

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<v Speaker 2>If if if you're somebody who wants to live a

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<v Speaker 2>different lifestyle than that, maybe you live or I live.

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<v Speaker 2>Who am I to to comment on on you know

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<v Speaker 2>who you cohabitate with? Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>And why doesn't Obamacare pay for all that? Anyways?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the people who pay the people that pay for Obamacare,

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<v Speaker 2>Geronimo or you and me? Yes, you know, but we

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<v Speaker 2>had this influx of district attorneys around the country who

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<v Speaker 2>had a different point of view on criminal activity. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>what's happened to Los Los Angeles is in tough shape

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<v Speaker 2>right now. San Francisco is probably gone as a major city. Seattle, Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>we know what happened out there. Portland, Oregon. They had

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<v Speaker 2>just now recriminalizing drugs. They've literally decriminalized drugs across the

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<v Speaker 2>board in Oregon, and that turned out to be a disaster,

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<v Speaker 2>a total disaster for Oregon.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh and by the way, if anybody's looking for a

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<v Speaker 5>reason to decide whether to vote for Trump or Harris.

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<v Speaker 5>This style of prosecutorial misconduct had a program title which

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<v Speaker 5>at the Democrat National Convention was praised and touted by

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<v Speaker 5>a district attorney in Maryland who's running for Senate now,

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<v Speaker 5>who referred to Kamala Harris's program, which the example I

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<v Speaker 5>just gave precipitated. That person at the convention said, and

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<v Speaker 5>that is now becoming a template, an example for the

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<v Speaker 5>whole nation in terms of district attorneys and how to

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<v Speaker 5>deal with violent criminals and illegal aliens. Just put them

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<v Speaker 5>out back on the street.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you see again the DA Fox in Chicago. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You see Rachel Rollins here in Boston for the relatively

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<v Speaker 2>brief period of time she was here. You see Alvin

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<v Speaker 2>Bragg in New York City. You see Gascon in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>It goes on, It goes on and on and on. Torontmo.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had the pleasure of having you on my show.

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<v Speaker 5>Before, no several times.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I want you to keep calling the program. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>call yes, certainly, thank you very much, thank you, sir. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>coming back on nights. I taking a break. I got

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<v Speaker 2>Todd and Alex you're going to get in and I

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<v Speaker 2>got room for you if you like to call right now,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the number six one, seven, two, five, four, ten

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<v Speaker 2>thirty or six one seven nine three. I will tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that I'm assuming, and this is my lineup of

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<v Speaker 2>questions that I think need to be asked in some

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<v Speaker 2>form of fashion. This is just the topics. January sixth,

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<v Speaker 2>Immigration in the border, abortion, Joe Biden. What did Vice

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<v Speaker 2>President Harris know about his condition and his diminution in capacity? Iran?

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<v Speaker 2>What are we going to do about Iran inflation? What

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<v Speaker 2>are we going to do about Israel? Are we going

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<v Speaker 2>to support Israel? Fracking putin Ukraine? The federal debt, the

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<v Speaker 2>cost of medicare, deportation policies that President Trump, former President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has talked about crime. What are we going to

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<v Speaker 2>do about crime nationally? The student loan forgiveness? The Minnesota

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<v Speaker 2>Bail Fund, which Vice President Harris supported, social Security, the

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<v Speaker 2>future of Social Security, Project twenty five. All of that,

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<v Speaker 2>all of that in more needs to be discussed tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back on Night's side. More phone calls,

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<v Speaker 2>and we will be breaking away at about eight fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll hear the debate in its entirety broadcast tonight. Courtesy

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<v Speaker 2>of ABC News. Right, you're on w BZ, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Rady, Mine from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ the News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Next up, Todd in Onset, Massachusetts. Todd, Welcome to Nightside.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you looking for tonight in the in the

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<v Speaker 2>Big Debate?

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, Dan Gridine.

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<v Speaker 6>Then, one of the questions I would ask former President

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<v Speaker 6>Trump is how would he continue to support NATO with

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<v Speaker 6>our current obligations and pretty change things? I guess to say, yep,

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like, you know he's got the inside edge

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<v Speaker 6>on Russia. I believe that I heard from a reputable

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<v Speaker 6>news media that he could uh stop the Ukraine war

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<v Speaker 6>in twenty four hours after being elected. I don't off

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<v Speaker 6>if that's something I got from misinformation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's what he claimed. That is what he said.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's possible, because I think the

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<v Speaker 2>level of enmity that exists between those two people, those

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<v Speaker 2>two groups of people is deep and divided. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how you do that, but that's what he said.

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<v Speaker 2>He should be asked about that tonight. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>should be asked to lay out a specific plan on that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because mean one thing It's one thing to say, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to stop the war. It's it's it'd be

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<v Speaker 2>like me saying, you know, put me up against the

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<v Speaker 2>Baltimore Pictures tonight, I'll hit a home run. Well, you

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<v Speaker 2>know you got to get up and do you gotta.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean he didn't exactly lay it a long timeline.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean twenty four hours. I mean that's just short

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<v Speaker 6>of a miracle.

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean it also leads to me. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>he would.

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<v Speaker 2>Win the Nobel Peace Prize. He would win the Nobel

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<v Speaker 2>Peace Price.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, yeah, absolutely, And again I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 6>like think that, you know, he's well theory like, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>he he actually has personal connections with Putin. I think

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<v Speaker 6>I think that could be easily demonstrated with how he

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<v Speaker 6>talks about him and and even Dak you know, he

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<v Speaker 6>he was even asked back in uh when the Ukraine

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<v Speaker 6>invasion underwent that he said, what do you think about

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<v Speaker 6>Putin and being in Ukraine? He said, brilliant? And that

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<v Speaker 6>again is something that I heard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't I don't think that he I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to know what contact that was. I really I know

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<v Speaker 2>that Putin stayed in his in his lair in his

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<v Speaker 2>den the Russian bear stayed pretty quiet while Trump they

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<v Speaker 2>invaded no country while Trump was president, he should be

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<v Speaker 2>asked specifically, what are you talking about? How are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to end this? I mean, you know, Nixon talked

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<v Speaker 2>about ending the war in Vietnam and it took about

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<v Speaker 2>five years longer. Yeah, and Nixon had long since left

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<v Speaker 2>the White House. Dodd, good question. Let's let me get

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<v Speaker 2>one more in here before the break. Okay, that was

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<v Speaker 2>an excellent question, and I will add it to the

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<v Speaker 2>list that I will mention. Uh, if it's not asked tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>that that that you asked a better question probably than

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<v Speaker 2>some of the questions that will be asked. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>a good one you were thinking tonight, and I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 2>proud of you. Thank you, Todd, talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Good night, Alex and Millis. Alex, what would you like

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<v Speaker 2>to know out of tonight's debate?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I have a feeling it will be a dog

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<v Speaker 7>and pony show. I'm not trying to be, you know, sarcastic,

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<v Speaker 7>but I wish I had a better choice, and a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of Americans feel the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>From that, Now, would you say, you know there are

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<v Speaker 2>some third party candidates who are who are running out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Jill Stein is still in the ballot. I

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<v Speaker 2>believe in Massachusetts Professor Cornell West there are there's a

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<v Speaker 2>libertarian candidate. So you do have some other choices. But

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<v Speaker 2>you had a lot of choices in the Republican primary

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<v Speaker 2>and Donald Trump Trump.

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<v Speaker 7>Tomall, well, I'll take the you know, the better of

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<v Speaker 7>the two evils. But I was going to say, is

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<v Speaker 7>both of these candidates, whoever wins, they're gonna they promise

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<v Speaker 7>all these things now, and you mark my words. You

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<v Speaker 7>know half the stuff's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's that's why we have elections every four years

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<v Speaker 2>and elections for Congress every two years. So obviously, if

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump has a good night and he gets elected

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<v Speaker 2>or real life, uh, he's going to have to prove

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<v Speaker 2>He's got four years to prove himself.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I was going to ask, because the world is burning,

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<v Speaker 7>which one of these two candidates would put out the

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<v Speaker 7>fire or you know, would you.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, I have no idea. I mean, I I think

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<v Speaker 2>you can look at the record of each of them.

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<v Speaker 2>One is a president, one is a vice president, and

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<v Speaker 2>come to whatever conclusion you want. You know, did did

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<v Speaker 2>the the depacal in Kabul basically encourage Putin to do

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<v Speaker 2>something which was crazy, to invade Ukraine? That argument can

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<v Speaker 2>be made. I wonder if but it was. Did it wasn't?

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't Joe Biden. I mean, we had a disastrous

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<v Speaker 2>with withdrawal from Kabul. We left eighty five billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>worth of military equipment which is now in the hands

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<v Speaker 2>of the Taliban.

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<v Speaker 7>So real quick, Oh sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I got ten seconds. If you want to do be quick.

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<v Speaker 2>If not, I'm going to have to put you over.

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<v Speaker 7>You could you could do a topic on airline we

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<v Speaker 7>went on our trip.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, don't do me a favorite. Don't open that up

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<v Speaker 2>on me, Alex I said ten seconds, okay, because we

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<v Speaker 2>got to get the ABC News thanks to Carl, and

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it. Well, we can deal with airlines at

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<v Speaker 2>another time. We're about to break away to the ABC

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<v Speaker 2>News coverage after a couple of commercial messages. The ABC

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<v Speaker 2>News coverage of this year's first and potentially only presidential

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<v Speaker 2>debate will be heard live from Philadelphia. You can listen

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<v Speaker 2>to it here and we'll have your reaction as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as the debate is over.