WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:02.560 I can't believe you told Lenning a car they could 2 00:00:02.560 --> 00:00:05.280 bring dates because they're not even coming to the wedding. 3 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:08.880 Why not because there are s v P cards arrived 4 00:00:08.919 --> 00:00:11.359 one day after the deadline March. 5 00:00:12.000 --> 00:00:14.800 Maybe you should take a break from wedding planning. I 6 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:16.440 think you're becoming a. 7 00:00:16.160 --> 00:00:23.800 Bridezilla, Bridezilla, a combination of bride and Godzilla. Could you 8 00:00:23.879 --> 00:00:26.440 say that were like you're a king wrong? 9 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:59.439 Four Finger Discount, dude. 10 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:47.920 Welcome to four Finger Discount, where this week we're getting married. 11 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:49.399 It's gonna be a bit of a disaster, though it 12 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:52.799 is wedding for Disaster. I'm Dando and I'm guy very 13 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:57.600 surprised by this episode, have you yeah? You hate to say, no, 14 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:00.359 I I hate to say because like this, I can 15 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:05.640 hate those I mean, let's be honest. This episode. We're 16 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:08.120 in the middle of season twenty right, well two thirds 17 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:10.799 of the way through season twenty are and I saw 18 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:13.519 wedding for Disaster. I saw the tagline was like margin 19 00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:16.159 Homer get married again. But then Homer baales the tagline. 20 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:20.920 I went, oh, boy, is it gonna be fun another 21 00:01:20.920 --> 00:01:25.040 one of these ones? Eye Homer, You're done fucked up? 22 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:30.040 But yeah, yes, and to our surprise, not necessarily the 23 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:34.799 case wedding for disaster feels like the writers room went, 24 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:37.599 all right, we're in the middle of season twenty. People 25 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:39.680 are hating on the show because they think that we've 26 00:01:39.719 --> 00:01:43.319 created joke ass Homer. Right, joke Arshmer has gone full 27 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:45.879 joke ass and he still has existed in season twenty. 28 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:48.519 This feels somewhat like them trying to retcon the character 29 00:01:48.599 --> 00:01:52.719 and go, we messed up, Yes, we promise, we'll try 30 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:55.879 and do good going forward. I can't recall many episodes 31 00:01:55.920 --> 00:01:58.480 between now and I've only really watched the last maybe 32 00:01:58.480 --> 00:02:01.200 two or three seasons of The Simpsons newer Ones rights 33 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:04.840 maybe four or five, and joke Assoman doesn't really exist anymore. 34 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:06.359 And I went, when did they get rid of joke 35 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:08.680 ass Homer? I wonder if this is it? I hope 36 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:10.400 this is it. I hope this is when they've gone. 37 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:12.479 This is the returning point, hopefully. 38 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:14.639 Because how can you have this episode and then go 39 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:16.560 back to joke ass Homer. How can you have him 40 00:02:16.599 --> 00:02:20.039 read those wedding vows? Because I'm watching this going they 41 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:22.280 even use Paddy and some of the two characters on 42 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:24.520 the show who hate Homer more than any other character 43 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:27.439 on the show. He won them over. If he can 44 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:29.520 win them over, then he should be able to win 45 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:32.319 us over. That's I think that they use them effectively 46 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:35.039 as the tools to go see even Paddy and someone 47 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:37.800 like him again. So if they like him, then you 48 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:40.240 should like him again. Hopefully they keep going forward and 49 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:42.879 he stays this version of home because this was. 50 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:44.280 Lovely, Absolutely it was. 51 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:44.479 Now. 52 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:47.360 Look, we're not saying that Homer shouldn't be insensitive or 53 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:50.039 thoughtless or a buffoon for the sake of comedy. 54 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:53.039 Yes, it's like for comedies, and as long as there 55 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:56.000 are ripercussions for his actions, he's held a cannibal for them, 56 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:58.159 because that's the annoying thing for joke. As Homer, it's 57 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:00.879 felt in the teen years was he's a jerk and 58 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:01.840 Home it just goes. 59 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:07.240 Oh, that's our hom Yes, shouldn't. Shouldn't happen. And we've 60 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:13.000 been increasingly frustrated watching episodes, frustrated watching the behavior getting 61 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:16.080 worse and worse, there being no blowback for us and 62 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:19.800 it just being sort of standard operating procedure. We don't 63 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:21.240 like it. We get a feeling that a lot of 64 00:03:21.240 --> 00:03:23.080 the viewers that the Simpsons didn't like it either, and 65 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:26.080 I want it appears maybe some of the creative people thought, 66 00:03:26.199 --> 00:03:29.400 as well, look, this isn't working out too well, or 67 00:03:29.479 --> 00:03:32.919 this is straying too far from what we initially had 68 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:34.000 in mind for the Simpsons. 69 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:36.080 I wonder if by this point, so under this air, 70 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:38.080 the original air of this one was in two thousand 71 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:39.759 and Stanley Guy was still a thing I set up 72 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:43.319 because I remember they sort of turned Homer, they changed 73 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:45.039 him to sort of become more of like a Peter 74 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:48.039 Griffin character. Right, So the Family Guy really took off 75 00:03:48.039 --> 00:03:50.240 and started ninety nine to two thousand, but it took 76 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:52.879 off about two thousand and four. Maybe the fad of 77 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:55.680 Family Guy was dying down a little bit and they went, oh, 78 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:58.199 we can maybe sort of diet tone that down a 79 00:03:58.199 --> 00:03:58.520 bit now. 80 00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:01.039 Yeah, quite possible. It felt like they're deliberately. 81 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:03.080 Trying to reckon the character, in my opinion, in this episode. 82 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:04.599 It feels that way, it doesn't it. Yeah, I mean 83 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:09.039 you're sort of getting back to Homer being kind of 84 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:13.960 dumb but good hearted, essentially a bit selfish, but not 85 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:16.519 bad underneath at all. And this is what came through 86 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:19.240 in this episode more than more than anything, and certainly 87 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:22.160 more in previous episodes where he's just acted out or 88 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:24.439 acted up or behaved badly. 89 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:26.959 And Marge comes across quite negative in this episode, but 90 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:28.759 it's only because she's going full bride zilla mode. And 91 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:30.560 I actually thought it was nice to see Marge finally 92 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:33.120 get her bride' zilla moment because she she's gone through 93 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:36.800 a lot, Marge, and she's sacrificed a lot, and she's compromised. 94 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:39.040 Now she's finally getting the wedding that she deserved, that 95 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:42.680 she want, that she wanted and to deserve, but she's 96 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:45.279 to go one full Bridezilla and oh yeah. They use 97 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:47.360 that though, as a way to also make you feel 98 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:49.360 sympathy for Homer again, because he's going, can I have 99 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:51.000 a rocket cake? She's going no, no, no, no, you 100 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:53.360 can choose the icing. Okay, I want chocolate. Nobo're getting Lenanon. 101 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:55.000 You know, I think it's one of my trivia questions. 102 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:58.120 But it's just a case of I just thought Homer 103 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:01.079 throughout this episode was really relatable. 104 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:05.560 Well yeah, I mean, if you've been in a relationship 105 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:08.639 quite some time, or you've been married or whatever, we're 106 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:14.480 staring into some cliches and some stereotypes, but I think 107 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:17.439 there are certain occasions like that when you when the 108 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:19.959 male half of the of the relationship in a heterosexual 109 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:23.040 relationship will go along to get along. We're like, I 110 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:25.000 think the feeling this is more important to you than 111 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:26.839 it is to me. It's more you know, you're going 112 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:29.680 to be the focus of attention on this time. Let's 113 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:30.480 let it go right for you. 114 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:32.160 That was very much me on the weddingdow. I went, 115 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:34.959 I don't care, just do it. 116 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:41.800 I don't care. I love you. Thought that was good anyway. Yeah, 117 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:46.519 it looks it's wholly justifiable for Marge to want things 118 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:50.160 her way as she does. She's never had this opportunity before, 119 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:52.360 That's correct. Yeah, I mean, look, I must have been. 120 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:54.800 I was doing a little of my own, not red conning. 121 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:57.240 But you know how we like to tinker with episodes. 122 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:00.600 We say fix, fix, and sometimes we do it. 123 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:04.759 I was thinking, oh, not that this was a heel 124 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:07.959 turn from Marge or anything like that, or wholly unexpected 125 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:10.839 or anything like that, but I was saying, oh, it 126 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:13.160 would have been for me at least it would have 127 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:15.920 been interesting, or would again an episode a little more 128 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:18.879 flow if she's sort of fallen prey to like as 129 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:22.240 I have watching reality TV and watching Bridezilla or something 130 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:24.439 like that and just getting infected that way, as opposed 131 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:27.399 to just it being something that she's been holding in 132 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:29.000 deep inside. Although that works as well. 133 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:31.120 That's actually a good point. I feel like five years 134 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:33.079 ago there, because there was an era of the show 135 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:35.360 of the Simpsons where it felt like they were constantly 136 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:38.279 parroting reality shows. It was always like that, Oh yeah, 137 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:41.000 they were frustrated. This show is so popular now and 138 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:42.600 our show is not as popular as it once was. 139 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:44.560 Though now frustrated, they're getting their angry out through the 140 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:46.639 rining of the show. We haven't seen a good, not 141 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:47.959 a good, but we haven't seen a parody of a 142 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:51.279 reality show for a while. This was season sixteen. I 143 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:53.120 think that's exactly what the story would have been. She 144 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:55.240 watched bride Zilla as the TV show and she got 145 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:56.040 swayed by them. 146 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:59.680 Yeah, and but no, she's been She's justified in wanting 147 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:03.360 wanting her day, her way, as they say, so, we 148 00:07:03.639 --> 00:07:08.600 are the hard way. That is a banger, if you 149 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:11.000 say so. If you're a wrestling fan, you definitely think 150 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:13.480 it's a banger because it was using the best highlight 151 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:16.160 reel of all time to promote the Steve Boston versus 152 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:19.160 Rock match at Wrestling in seventeen, considered the best highlight 153 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:21.199 package of all time in wrestling history. 154 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:26.279 I understood maybe like six of those words we spoke 155 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:29.079 about Hill. That's when the greatest baby phase of all time. 156 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:31.759 Stone called Steve Boston turned heel, and everyone went, we 157 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:34.639 want to boo this guy, and wrestling was never the same. 158 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:37.600 I can never imagine Stone called Steve Buston as a babyface. 159 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:41.199 He was the anti establishment, so everyone loved him because 160 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:43.120 he was a what do you call those, an anti 161 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:46.240 heel kind of thing, anti hero, anti heroes, anti anti 162 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:48.399 hero where basically he was the guy beating up his 163 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:50.800 boss every week and everyone lived vi carously. And then 164 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:54.160 after that match he shook the boss's hand and signed 165 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:56.560 a deal of the devil and everyone was like, ah, oh, 166 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:59.160 we thought so the one reason we watched this show 167 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:03.279 is now not here any. 168 00:08:02.040 --> 00:08:04.720 We thought you were to take this We thought you 169 00:08:04.720 --> 00:08:07.879 were to take this job and shove it guy Stone Cold. 170 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:13.199 Yes, I will say this episode here feels like a 171 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:16.439 treeouse of horror gone begging. I'm a big fan of 172 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:19.319 Saw franchise or the original Saw film that Saw franchise, 173 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:21.480 the original Saw film. I remember seeing two maybe three 174 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:23.600 at the movies, But I liked the original Saw because 175 00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:26.120 I just have that nostalgia for being shocked. Not many 176 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:28.240 movies shocked me with a twist, and that one really 177 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:31.439 shocked me. I remember going, WHOA, that's that's real, that's happening. 178 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:33.799 This one here feels like it could have been a 179 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:36.039 treouse of horror segment. It's almost like they created a 180 00:08:36.039 --> 00:08:38.720 tree house of horror segment and went, ah, we can't. 181 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:40.120 We haven't got space to use on this week. This 182 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:42.320 year is special. Let's build an episode around it. 183 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:42.559 Yeah. 184 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:46.480 Yeah, I'm trying to remember when Saw came. Okay, so 185 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:50.240 lobbies a little bit late to the party, although yeah, 186 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:53.840 we're probably deep in the Saw franchise, as you say, Yeah, 187 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:55.799 I mean they were turning them out like once a 188 00:08:55.879 --> 00:08:56.480 year or so. 189 00:08:56.840 --> 00:08:59.879 Yeah, two thousand and four was the first one. Yeah, 190 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:02.960 Lee were Now that's right on the movie Guarde. That's great. 191 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:08.559 And the mythology of the Saw legend just got increasingly 192 00:09:08.600 --> 00:09:11.799 convoluted and strange. But yeah, people were turning out for 193 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:12.399 those Saw movies. 194 00:09:12.440 --> 00:09:14.559 Man, wow, we so Saw one two thousand and four, 195 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:16.720 Saw two, two thousand and five, SAW three, two thousand 196 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:18.679 and six, Saw four, two thousand and seven, Saw five 197 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:21.919 and eight, two nine, twenty ten, So six years straight, 198 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:24.279 seven years straight there was new Saw films. That's pretty 199 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:26.519 much they what they did with the Friday of the Turnings movies, 200 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:28.519 you know, back in the eight usually the ones. Yeah, yeah, 201 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:30.759 they were just like they were trying to get them 202 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:33.200 out at least once a year, or Nightmare and Night 203 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:34.080 Realms as well. 204 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:35.000 And that's cool. 205 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:38.120 Oh I wish we did more of that now, like, oh, yes, 206 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:40.600 I New Friday third, like I think of a modern 207 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:43.240 day film. Yes, it's a new Sinners, you know, yeah. 208 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:45.759 That's true. I mean I think Blomhouse was trying to 209 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:52.159 do that with the New Meghan, you know, the Killer Doll, 210 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:55.200 the dancers, you know, I think they brought the second 211 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:57.080 one of those out, but yeah, I get the feeling 212 00:09:57.159 --> 00:09:58.759 year Blomhouse wanted to do that kind of thing where 213 00:09:58.759 --> 00:09:59.440 it's conjuring. 214 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:00.000 Give mean that one. 215 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:04.720 No, no, no, no Megan, Okay, no, there's Annibal. There's Annibal 216 00:10:04.759 --> 00:10:07.960 the Haunted Doll, Annabelle the Haunted Doll. But then there's 217 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:12.519 also Megan, which is kind of like the oh yes, 218 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:14.799 like a robot. Yeah, I know what you mean now 219 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:20.320 with the three that's right. No, But I love the 220 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:24.559 idea of just some enterprising hustler producers, like it's the 221 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:29.159 same ship every time different. Yeah, yeah, I love that. 222 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:32.759 But I feel like this could have been a really 223 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:34.919 good Saw parody, like they had all the elements there 224 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:35.879 for they. 225 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:38.240 Well, they did a good Saw parody. Yeah, you're right 226 00:10:38.279 --> 00:10:39.799 in terms of like, oh, it would have been interesting 227 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:41.919 treehouse thing. But I think they folded it really well 228 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:45.120 into this. I must admit when I initially when they 229 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:46.919 had the scene with like Homer wakes up in the 230 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:48.919 room and he's like he's chaining, like, oh, you don't sore, 231 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:53.080 it was a little late all that kind of stuff. 232 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:55.399 The way they played it out I thought was actually 233 00:10:55.399 --> 00:10:58.120 pretty good in terms of like who had imprisoned him, 234 00:10:58.320 --> 00:10:59.679 the stuff that he had to go through, and the 235 00:10:59.679 --> 00:11:01.120 stuff he was willing to go through. 236 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:04.600 They flipped the script on, you know, saw Jigsaw actually 237 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:06.960 falling for the victim. 238 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:10.840 That's right. Yeah, yeah, So I thought Homer recquitted himself 239 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:14.279 like a boss in that torture rooma that he did 240 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:16.720 very very well stay true to himself and to march. 241 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:18.480 What were your thoughts when you read those vows. I'm 242 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:20.720 reading this going this feels nothing like the Homer we've 243 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:24.240 experienced for the last decade. But I'm glad this is 244 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:26.759 happening now and hopefully it could just persists going forward. 245 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:30.519 I think, yeah, I think we expect certain things from home, 246 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:32.159 or I think we expect him to be a bit 247 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:36.759 of a goof yeah, say inappropriate things, doing inappropriate stuff. 248 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:38.360 But at the heart of it, as I was saying before, 249 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:39.000 he's good heart. 250 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:42.000 He loves his kids, loves his family, even if they 251 00:11:42.039 --> 00:11:46.440 drive him to distraction. I know he said, God, I 252 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:48.759 miss her sister's right, that was like the kicker for them. 253 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:51.519 But I was just really glad that he said I 254 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:53.200 miss you much and I missed my kids, And I 255 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:55.519 was like, I'm glad they acknowledged the kids as well. 256 00:11:55.720 --> 00:12:03.159 Yeah, yeah, Well he's the original family guy. And that's right, 257 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:07.600 he said in a Trey Parker boys. I don't know 258 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:12.480 why I did that, just combining all the very show, Yeah, 259 00:12:12.799 --> 00:12:16.120 bringing everything together. Speaking of unified theory of four finger discount, 260 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:17.519 this is something I wanted to bring up just quickly 261 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:20.279 because at the start, it's the inciting incident that the 262 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:23.960 Parson comes to town. It's like, well, you know, it's 263 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:26.399 interesting that we're that this episode is coming at the time. 264 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:28.559 The parson is the parson, of course, but they're treating 265 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:30.440 it kind of like, oh, it's the Pope coming to 266 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:31.559 town and we got a new pope. 267 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:35.960 I was watching this going the Unified theory because we've 268 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:37.639 got Catholics the. 269 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:39.960 World over and like, yeah, we got a new pope. 270 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:43.039 We got Papa Leo. Yeah, from Chicago, all the all 271 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:45.559 the world leads are meeting him. It's funny. I was 272 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:48.679 watching the news with the Lovely Loise last night. Elbow 273 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:51.200 Anthony Albanezi, the Australian Prime Minister, has gone to the 274 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:54.159 Vatican to meet with Pope Leo. They had a shot 275 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:58.600 of Elbow sitting in some audience in the Vatican had 276 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:00.799 like a really slick pair of sungline and I was like, oh, 277 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:04.440 check out Elbow. Lose Like, don't tell me a crushing 278 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:05.759 on Elbow and his ray beards. 279 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:08.480 I said a little bit, you love you expensive glasses, 280 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:09.440 though I do. 281 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:12.679 That is true. I was like, there's a man who 282 00:13:12.720 --> 00:13:16.080 knows quality I wear. Yeah, that's my Prime minister. But yeah, 283 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:17.000 I just looked at it. 284 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:19.320 Like you ridiculous, one of the odds of the new pope, 285 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:21.639 and then the pope comes to town. Here on the Simpsons, 286 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:24.919 the opening act was kind of just there. For me, 287 00:13:25.080 --> 00:13:27.080 it was it felt kind of long winded to get 288 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:28.519 to the point it did. 289 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:32.240 And yeah, the one of my last notes about that, 290 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:34.120 you wouldn't even call it a first act. You'd call 291 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:36.799 it like the the first act. 292 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:40.799 I guess the first act was finally him telling Homer 293 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:42.559 and margin they went married. It went for five minutes 294 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:44.080 or so it was. It was two minutes before the 295 00:13:44.120 --> 00:13:47.039 episode started. We had the full intro, then an extended 296 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:51.519 couch gag. True, whenever they get the full intro and 297 00:13:51.559 --> 00:13:53.960 a long couch gag, I always go, oh, yeah, that 298 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:56.440 can be a good one. 299 00:13:56.159 --> 00:14:00.360 But every by the end the parson gag with the 300 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:04.279 whole oh looks like you've got a yeah. 301 00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:06.480 The songs were funny, were kind of funny, and that 302 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:09.559 was Cosby, right cross Crosby so not Cosby. 303 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:16.399 Oh shit, now we're talking about mid twentieth century kroner Bing. 304 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:19.759 Crossby looked like the biggest star in the world for 305 00:14:19.159 --> 00:14:22.720 a certain period. Okay, by the end that gag was 306 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:25.559 I was like, oh, you've you've got every last bit 307 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:28.080 of juice out of this, and now you're like you're 308 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:30.759 squeezing an orange Rider's like, give me a little bit more. 309 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:34.720 Who was the Parsons Simpsons. Who was the voice of that? 310 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:37.639 It sounds to me like it's a Dan one, right, 311 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:41.360 a Parson. Hag is Aria was a voice. Yeah, it 312 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:43.840 just seems to me like it seems like Harry Sheira 313 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:45.399 For a second, it just seems like Hank did the 314 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:49.200 voice one time. Just thinking at Crosby impersonation, I'm like, 315 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:52.200 let's work this into something because you said they really 316 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:53.039 milked it, didn't. 317 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:55.960 Yeah, oh yeah, I must admit when they when he 318 00:14:56.039 --> 00:14:58.080 first arrived and he sort of looks a bit like 319 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:01.399 being Crosby. Then he starts just closing a thing, a 320 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:04.240 little bit of a song. It's like, oh, they're doing 321 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:07.559 that's unexpected in like two thousand and nine, given that, 322 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:09.960 you know, you ask the average person on the street, Hey, 323 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:12.159 how about they've been Grosby? Like, first of all, get 324 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:13.240 away from me again. Though. 325 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:14.679 It's one of those gags where as a kid, you 326 00:15:14.679 --> 00:15:16.000 have no idea what it is, but you're like it's 327 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:16.639 something and you have. 328 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:19.120 To and you do your research and you learn a 329 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:19.879 little bit more. 330 00:15:19.960 --> 00:15:24.240 I'm just looking up that the Parson actually appears in 331 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:26.440 many episodes going forward. He becomes a character he's just 332 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:30.120 called the Parson, Okay, Yeah, a charismatic lower management leader 333 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:33.120 of the Pressbury Lutheran Faith practice in Springfield. 334 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:36.360 Well, it's kind of an interesting dynamic because you tend 335 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:39.279 to think of Reverend love Joy as not holier than now, 336 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:42.159 but yeah, persisting himself as kind of a moral authority 337 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:44.639 and as an extension of that not a boss of 338 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:46.799 the town is kind of like, well, all things have 339 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:48.919 got to go through Reverend love Joy, and to him 340 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:53.919 have him being intimidated by someone who upper management but 341 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:56.799 was supposedly like his peer. Yeah. 342 00:15:56.799 --> 00:15:58.679 What they say is like it was your roommate or something, 343 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:00.600 and they don't play it on they they mentioned it. 344 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:02.320 I thought, why would you mention it and not play 345 00:16:02.360 --> 00:16:03.120 it for a story? 346 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:05.039 I thought, I guess they might. They must do that 347 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:08.679 later on. But yeah, him be Hey, I'm kind of 348 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:10.559 a big fish in Springfield, but he comes to the 349 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:13.679 bigger fish. Everybody loves him and he's kind of he's 350 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:15.919 got my number. Yeah. I like that. It's I think 351 00:16:16.120 --> 00:16:18.440 I find it. I found that kind of fun. Do 352 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:20.960 you think the parson was arrogant. I think he was 353 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:22.960 very sure of himself. Oh yeah, he. 354 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:25.360 Knew what he what he was. He knows what he 355 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:28.320 brings to the table. He seems nice. 356 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:32.159 Though, seems nice, but also yeah, like, what's that saying? 357 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:35.159 What was a bee? Humble? But let motherfuckers know that's him. 358 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:37.679 I'm pretty sure that's how let him Alton describe George Lucas, Right. 359 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:46.399 That's right, please please just come down. I'm just a person, 360 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:51.639 just like it. But I also creative star war. I 361 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:52.240 didn't forget you. 362 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:54.799 I thought the Parson was going to go a bit 363 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:56.399 of a hill turn here. When he's like, I'm just 364 00:16:56.440 --> 00:16:58.399 here to let you know they are you credit card decline? 365 00:16:58.440 --> 00:17:02.000 I thought, oh, reverend fucked no. But he's just he's 366 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:04.839 slipping the ship and every once a whayle just reminding 367 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:07.160 him that you're down here, I'm up there kinda say 368 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:09.720 a couple of bad not bad taste jokes, but maybe 369 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:12.160 bad taste jokes in this I mean they were of 370 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:15.599 the time, of course, halla jokes. Well yeah, I'm you're 371 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:17.440 when she was Harold and wait what. 372 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:19.720 Well I'm watching this going what is the point. 373 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:21.759 Of saying that actually there is there is real No, 374 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:24.319 there is no point. There is absolutely no point because 375 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:27.359 it doesn't make sense. She's had a daughter. She said, Jessica, Yeah, 376 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:30.119 what are we doing? Why would you make a trans 377 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:31.440 gag like that makes no sense? 378 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:33.839 When she was haled, Yeah, why are you playing sort 379 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:36.359 of mind games with the with Reverend Lovejoy like that? 380 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:38.759 I don't know. So it struck me as kind of 381 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:40.599 like it just left a bit of a sour taste 382 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:42.559 in my mouth. Sorry, I don't want to pet woke 383 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:45.119 or anything like that, but I mean, and yeah, I 384 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:46.920 wasn't even approaching at the point of view like that's 385 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:49.640 in bad taste, guys. It's more like, what's the point? 386 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:54.559 What's the point? Yeah? Yeah, It's like later on when sorry, 387 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:56.400 I've done that thing where you know you write the thing, 388 00:17:56.440 --> 00:17:59.240 but you haven't when we do trivia questions, like I 389 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:00.559 know the answer, but I another question. 390 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:01.440 What have you written? 391 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:02.119 I've written? 392 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:02.559 Oh? 393 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:03.319 How did you check? 394 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:06.480 So he said, isn't this a bit gay? Because last 395 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:08.039 time time I checked, pirates weren't gay. 396 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:09.720 That's right. How did you check? 397 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:09.839 That? 398 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:12.319 Was such a random thing? I went again, what this 399 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:15.839 that there had no impact on the episode that was 400 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:17.480 not needed went for about five seconds. 401 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:19.480