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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think

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<v Speaker 2>when we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Get off our show, idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>The kids are playing to turn off the countries.

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<v Speaker 1>Are screwing it up. Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold

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<v Speaker 1>Play Inner Murals.

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<v Speaker 3>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Nick coffee?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? Welcome Inn Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's

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<v Speaker 2>here on a special Monday. I didn't think I would

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<v Speaker 2>be feeling the way that I'm feeling on this day,

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<v Speaker 2>even had Louisville like lost to Clemson on Friday, which

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't talked since then. But even if we had

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<v Speaker 2>lost Friday night, you know, heck, we might not not

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<v Speaker 2>even even made the tournament, to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the way the seating played out.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, this year, there was never really a

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<v Speaker 2>moment for me where I felt genuinely disappointed and like

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<v Speaker 2>really sad, you know what I mean, Like nobody likes losing.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't like losing the other night to Duke. That

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<v Speaker 2>was tough when they were getting their tails kicked in

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<v Speaker 2>earlier this season whenever they played Tennessee at home, and

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<v Speaker 2>then of course when they got back from the Bahamas,

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<v Speaker 2>they were adjusting to life without Case and Pryor and

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<v Speaker 2>Cora Johnson, and they got dusted by Old Miss, lost

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<v Speaker 2>to Duke, double figures, lost Toknseax. But I never felt

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<v Speaker 2>any level of real just like, man, I'm so down

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<v Speaker 2>on the dumps, and I think it's because of two things. One,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I like these guys so much, and when

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<v Speaker 2>they do end up, you know, falling short, like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's because they're not giving it, they're all.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's you know, I just think it's because

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<v Speaker 2>of this of the circumstances. So, you know, I like

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<v Speaker 2>these guys a lot. We all do, right, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a very special group. So because of that and because

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<v Speaker 2>of the other reason that I didn't mention it, and

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<v Speaker 2>it may not even need to be said, but Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>being where they were in the previous few seasons to

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<v Speaker 2>have this now, I mean, even when there is a setback,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it still stings. But man, we know we're

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<v Speaker 2>in such a better place than we used to be,

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<v Speaker 2>and man, we got here pretty quick. So last night

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<v Speaker 2>to see Louisville come in as at number eight, which,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, I don't know what it is, but

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<v Speaker 2>there was something also awful about being one of the

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<v Speaker 2>first teams mentioned, like I just I don't know. It

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<v Speaker 2>felt like it was very premature, very underwhelming. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But nonetheless, the eight seed sucked. We all know it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I felt probably the saddest I've been all season.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's a reminder that when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to being you know that disappointed and bummed, part of

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<v Speaker 2>that feeling that you have is due to an expectation. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So when Louisville, that's one one of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>made this season such a fun ride because I knew

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<v Speaker 2>this team could lose anybody, right, Like, it wasn't as

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<v Speaker 2>if even when you would beat a bad team, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was still what you were supposed to be doing.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, you know, this team, as much as they've

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<v Speaker 2>looked really good and clearly I think we all agree

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<v Speaker 2>they deserve a much better see than what they got.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just there was not a whole lot of room

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<v Speaker 2>for error. Whenever the injuries happened, and when you had

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<v Speaker 2>the roller coaster where you feel like, Okay, it looks

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<v Speaker 2>like we're gonna be great after the Bahamas, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you realize cases out. So you know, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be such a Debbie downer because it's great to

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<v Speaker 2>be back in the tournament, could go to Lexington like

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<v Speaker 2>it's I mean, just to be a part of this

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<v Speaker 2>is awesome. But I think because I was so disappointed

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<v Speaker 2>and surprise, I'm sorry because I was so surprised to

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<v Speaker 2>see Louisville as the eight. It hit me with maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the most disappointed moment I've had throughout the season, which

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's not what I was expecting. I was

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<v Speaker 2>expecting to be phenomenal, and you know, seeing your name

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<v Speaker 2>there at a five or six, maybe even a seven,

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<v Speaker 2>and it would have been a different feeling than what

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<v Speaker 2>we had last night. So look, there's nothing you can

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<v Speaker 2>do about it. But I feel like we get one

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<v Speaker 2>day to bitch about it. Isn't that day today. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's what we do. We talk brackets, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's clear that not just around here, but nationally, Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>is a is believed to be the team probably the

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<v Speaker 2>most underseated other than of course West Virginia not getting in.

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<v Speaker 2>So look, it is our Monday Marathon present about Carriage Forward,

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<v Speaker 2>and we are simulcasting here in just a moment. So

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<v Speaker 2>in just a moment, I'm going to turn my microphone

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<v Speaker 2>off and walk across the hall and join Terry Minors

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<v Speaker 2>and you will hear both Terry and I on News

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<v Speaker 2>Radio eight forty TOBHS as well as Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>We're only gonna do this for the first segment, so

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<v Speaker 2>Terry and I are going to discuss the obvious and

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<v Speaker 2>we will resume our regular shows after that. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to talking with Terry, and I mean the

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<v Speaker 2>different ways in which you can you can look at

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<v Speaker 2>just how I mean today, and I'll just give you

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<v Speaker 2>this stat and I don't want to get into too

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<v Speaker 2>much right here, and then you know, go across the

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<v Speaker 2>hall and then say the same thing over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm trying not to, you know, throw out all

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<v Speaker 2>the crazy stats that really put in perspective how wildly

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<v Speaker 2>incorrectly Louisville was seated. But Kelly Dickey, of course, ul

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<v Speaker 2>statistical guru. I think everybody knows who Kelly is he's

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<v Speaker 2>a great follow real card game on Twitter if you

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<v Speaker 2>guys want to follow him. But what's crazy is Lo

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<v Speaker 2>was now top ten team. But those who missed it,

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<v Speaker 2>the ap pole came out today, louis was number ten

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<v Speaker 2>in the Apeopole after beating Clemson last week and of

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<v Speaker 2>course competing with Duke. So Louisville being a top ten

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<v Speaker 2>team playing in an NCAA tournament game as an eight

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<v Speaker 2>seed is just it's insanity. And I know the ap

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<v Speaker 2>pole doesn't necessarily it's not the end all be all,

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<v Speaker 2>but still like that should show you just how wildly

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<v Speaker 2>different you view this team compared to everybody else. All Right,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go, We're gonna go. I'm gonna make my

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<v Speaker 2>way across the hall here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you saw the new rankings came out today. Louisville's

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<v Speaker 3>number ten and obviously they have an eight seed. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's like this whole thing is just tragic and stupid,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's a reality. So I'm not one of those

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<v Speaker 3>people's gonna ser and twist in the wind and whine

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<v Speaker 3>and complain about that. It's just a matter of how

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<v Speaker 3>dumb it is when you put the the metrics to

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<v Speaker 3>it all these people want to decide about analytics and

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<v Speaker 3>numbers and so forth. Well, Nick Coffee is joining me

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<v Speaker 3>in here in the Whas studio along with mister Paul Miles.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Nick Coffee, Hello, gentlemen, how are we doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Hi?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you racket Monday?

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<v Speaker 3>Are we celebrating a simul cast on seven ninety?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Very nice.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a party, Miles.

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<v Speaker 3>We haven't been on seven ninety for a while in

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<v Speaker 3>a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, welcome, welcome, Happy to have you guys. Dave Jennings,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a staple of seven ninety. Dave Jennings, you're closer.

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<v Speaker 3>To That's right. Dave had a lot of years on

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<v Speaker 3>seven ninety. You're closer to the beverages in our building.

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<v Speaker 3>That's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Oh yeah, studio is nice. Yeah, I like to

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<v Speaker 2>like that. That's kind of my domain.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I am opening what that thought? Hang that banner,

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<v Speaker 3>Hang that banner because the NC DOUBLEA this is a

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<v Speaker 3>clown show, and so this whole thing of our seating

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<v Speaker 3>we all get is ridiculous. Nobody can put out numbers

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<v Speaker 3>that justify it. I mean, I saw the clown Bucco

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<v Speaker 3>from North Carolina, whatever his name.

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<v Speaker 2>Is, Bubba Bubba Cunningham.

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<v Speaker 3>Bubba is his name the ad Did they give him

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<v Speaker 3>a Christian name when he was born.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I would doubt that that's his legal name,

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<v Speaker 2>but he is certainly a name that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people are familiar with. In the last twenty four hours

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<v Speaker 2>that probably had no clue who he was. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that was a selection committee.

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<v Speaker 4>Bar Rabbis actually was.

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<v Speaker 2>The name.

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<v Speaker 3>This whole thing is, you know, silly, but we are here.

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<v Speaker 3>We just have to deal with the reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I as I started my show, I mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>how for me this year was such a fun ride expectations.

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<v Speaker 2>Who really knew what to expect, and then when they

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<v Speaker 2>started playing well, even when they had a setback, you

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<v Speaker 2>felt like, Okay, we're still in a much better position

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<v Speaker 2>than we've been in a long time. You played some

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<v Speaker 2>really good teams that beat you. So there was never

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<v Speaker 2>really like a feeling of disappointment as a fan because

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<v Speaker 2>even when they lost, I feel like they're still trying hard.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't feel any different about Pat Kelsey and what

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<v Speaker 2>these guys could eventually do once they played some, once

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<v Speaker 2>they got used to the new rotation with the injuries

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<v Speaker 2>and whatnot. But yesterday's seeing them come in at number

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<v Speaker 2>eight was as disappointed as I've been all year as

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<v Speaker 2>a level basketball fan, and I think just because you

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<v Speaker 2>the body language when they showed them uh the when

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<v Speaker 2>they unveiled they're going to be playing against Creighton in

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<v Speaker 2>the eight nine game.

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<v Speaker 3>Clayton is not seated correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>So Louisville will have to get past the second placed

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<v Speaker 2>Big East team, a Big East team that played in

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<v Speaker 2>their conference championship game against Sint John's the other night, competitively,

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<v Speaker 2>and then if they can get past them easier said

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<v Speaker 2>than done, then they get to play the number one

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<v Speaker 2>overall seed to go to the second weekend. I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't think anybody would objectively put Louisville in that position

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<v Speaker 2>other than the committee, I think anybody else would have said,

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<v Speaker 2>at least they're a six, so you do get to

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<v Speaker 2>play in Lexington. There's a there's there's benefit there, but man,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got you've got a tough first game is really tough.

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<v Speaker 2>As you mentioned, Creighton's a really really good team.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's not just the seating guys, it's it happened

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<v Speaker 4>two seconds into the broadcast. Yeah, people are pouring their

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<v Speaker 4>beers and getting their sandwiches and go. Did they just

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<v Speaker 4>say Louisville?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was that was not that. That was not

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<v Speaker 2>something I would have expected to hit me like it did.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe it wasn't just the seed, it was how

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<v Speaker 2>early it was.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, Dave, here's the way this feels to me,

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<v Speaker 3>though we've all gone through this over the last month,

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<v Speaker 3>month and a half. You're going down a road you

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<v Speaker 3>normally travel and all of a sudden you hit an

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<v Speaker 3>unbelievable poddle. But then it's over. You're worried that your

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<v Speaker 3>car's not right anymore, the alignments out, but it's over.

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<v Speaker 3>So all you can do is just take the lump

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<v Speaker 3>get ready for this Creighton game and not even sweat

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<v Speaker 3>the details that Auburn is lurking behind there. Auburn is

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<v Speaker 3>definitely going to advance, So you worry about that Friday

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<v Speaker 2>And I think Pat Kelcey, you know a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>coaches do the worry about the next game. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>think about anything else outside of that. It's the most

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<v Speaker 2>important game in the history of the program because it's

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<v Speaker 2>the next one, and I'm sure a lot of coaches

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<v Speaker 2>would like to have that mindset within their culture. However,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Pat Kelsey has shown this year with this group,

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<v Speaker 2>they've never been too high too low, even when you

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<v Speaker 2>think that maybe the wheels may start to fall off.

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<v Speaker 2>And really that only happened earlier this year when they

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<v Speaker 2>were playing really good teams, and obviously they were they

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<v Speaker 2>him making it pretty clear he was a little upset

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<v Speaker 2>by the seating. I mean, I don't think anybody would

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<v Speaker 2>his team ended up. But I feel like he's the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of guy that could get these guys focused, get

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<v Speaker 2>them regrouped. I mean, they throughout the entire year, I

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<v Speaker 2>about who's up. You know, I don't think they're even

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about any kind of a seed, a number. They're

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<v Speaker 2>just knowing, Hey, we got to get ready for Creighton.

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<v Speaker 2>They're a really good ball team. Let's figure out how

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<v Speaker 4>Not just that, guys, you have Clemson as a five,

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<v Speaker 4>so Louisville beats Clemson twice. Clemson finishes behind Louisville in

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<v Speaker 4>the standings because they beat Duke full strength one given night.

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<v Speaker 4>Clemson's a five and Louisville's an eight.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the biggest That's the biggest issue that I have

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<v Speaker 2>with the whole thing is that there's no way the

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<v Speaker 2>committee would be able to tell us how they tell

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<v Speaker 2>us how they assess the acc I mean, what Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>clearly got benefit for to get in. Louisville got no

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<v Speaker 2>credit for Clemson. You know again, if you just want

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<v Speaker 2>to tell me, well, louisll didn't have many opportunities to

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<v Speaker 2>play great teams in conference play, therefore they just don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a whole lot of quadwin wins. I mean, that's true. However,

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the league that did get in seem

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<v Speaker 2>to be viewed a little bit differently than Louisville.

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<v Speaker 3>Miles, you taking aback by any of this stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>you've been talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, But a question for who's gonna who's gonna draw

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<v Speaker 5>the biggest fan base to Lexington, Louisville, or Tennessee. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>thinking there's gonna be a lot of orange in that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking there's gonna be a lot of blue in there,

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky fans who they knew that their team wouldn't be there,

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<v Speaker 3>But a lot of people can't travel.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Lexiville guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Lexville Knoxville is not too far away, and there are

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee is a huge fan base. I mean, they are massive,

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<v Speaker 2>and them being good in any sport will remind you

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<v Speaker 2>how many fans they have out there. But I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>if maybe some of them are thinking, Okay, we are

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<v Speaker 2>we're a top two seed. Maybe maybe we'll we'll wait

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<v Speaker 2>to go, We'll save our money to travel to the

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<v Speaker 2>second weekend because we think so we're so confident that

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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna happen. But I'm sure there's many Tennessee fans

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<v Speaker 2>that don't even live that far from Lexington.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is an easy get for them, and Kentucky

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<v Speaker 3>and Milwaukee. That's not a problem for a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky fans. They're gonna be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all over the planet, by the way, Katwaukee Tucky fans.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and then Indianapolis would be their their second stop,

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<v Speaker 3>and then that's completely due.

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't think Kentucky fans can take much issue

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<v Speaker 2>with how they ended up. I think the three seed

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<v Speaker 2>may be a little surprising to some because of the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of losses they had, but they had so many

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<v Speaker 2>really really valuable wins that really, I mean, that's what's

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to matter more than anything. And as far as

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<v Speaker 2>who they end up with, I mean, Tennessee's a team

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<v Speaker 2>they could meet in the second weekend, they've already beat

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<v Speaker 2>him twice. Houston, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say any of

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<v Speaker 2>these one seeds are are viewed as, you know, somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that you can easily get past. However, of all the options,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Houston may maybe the one I would choose. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky definitely rewarded on selection Sunday, I think, and again

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<v Speaker 2>it checks out they had a really good resume, more

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<v Speaker 2>losses than you typically see for a team seeded that high,

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<v Speaker 2>but man, they had a lot of really valuable wins.

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<v Speaker 3>And if they could make it through.

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<v Speaker 5>Milwaukee, they go to Indianapolis. Correct, Yeah, I think yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>which would bode well for them in the fan base.

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<v Speaker 3>Miles, you ran a clip from Lamont Butler in the

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<v Speaker 3>top of the hour, and m did you get on

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<v Speaker 3>the floor with him? And actually, so let's try it,

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<v Speaker 3>just try me. Did you check him and make sure

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<v Speaker 3>his shoulder's okay, his legs are all right as lungs

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<v Speaker 3>as I did not popping.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you did?

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<v Speaker 3>You know they're all they see, Paul Miles. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>taking this.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy, did. I mean, there's no scenario. It's a coincidence

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<v Speaker 2>that we could get Patino versus Caliperi in the second round, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that is I mean too, I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>would be It'd be phenomenal. Uh, I love it. They

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<v Speaker 2>have already texted each other about it. I can guarantee,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, and I would I mean, I would

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<v Speaker 2>be very A lot of people around here would be

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<v Speaker 2>interested just just to be around kind of the lead

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<v Speaker 2>up to that potential game. There only be a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of days between because it'd be a second round matchup.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, that would be quite the storyline for the

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<v Speaker 2>round of thirty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't that Rhode Island? Yeah, Marks has got to get

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<v Speaker 3>past Kansas.

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<v Speaker 2>True, very true.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's not a full strength Kansas, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Kansas, they've just had a I mean, they're healthy

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<v Speaker 2>as far as I know, as far as their key contributors,

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<v Speaker 2>but they just they're the latest example of they went

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<v Speaker 2>out and they bought a lot of really good players.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a lot of talent. Nobody would question their

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<v Speaker 2>talent level. They've a great coach obviously in Bill self.

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<v Speaker 2>It just isn't fitting together. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it's more so because style of play or maybe personalities,

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<v Speaker 2>but they've they've had more losses this year in quite

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<v Speaker 2>some time in league play. But they're also, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some one of those teams that if they end up

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<v Speaker 2>going on a run, maybe getting to the sweet sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can't say I'd be surprised.

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<v Speaker 5>I love the fact that Louisville's playing at noon twelve

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<v Speaker 5>to fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>The only person I've heard say that, oh I love you.

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<v Speaker 5>Lunchtime at the office. You know, I'll put the work

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<v Speaker 5>aside and just turn on the TV, watch watch the cards.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody gets to be the kickoff, you know, the christening

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<v Speaker 3>of the tournament, and this year it's louisviland and crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>The last time Louisville made the tournament, same thing. They

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<v Speaker 2>played the very first game against the Minnesota Richard Patino

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<v Speaker 2>team and lost. And losing in the tournament and having

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<v Speaker 2>your season come to an end is devastating in any way.

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<v Speaker 2>It happens, but man to be the first team there

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<v Speaker 2>is there that was a brutal pain I didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to experience going on.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you guys heard of our new metric that we

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<v Speaker 4>use this year. This is the WAB. The WAB the

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<v Speaker 4>wins above bubble where Carolina finished first and they're crediting

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<v Speaker 4>that with their getting in. It measures how many more

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<v Speaker 4>wins a team has compared to what an average bubble

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<v Speaker 4>team would be expected to have against the same schedule.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's a bunch of pe people sitting around going, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Indiana wouldn't have had it that many wins with Carolina schedule. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>West Virginia wouldn't have had that many wins with the

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<v Speaker 4>Carolina schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought the ACC was terrible. Yeah, the ACC.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the Louisville seating is the one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that makes you feel as if because it really were

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<v Speaker 2>overre the bubble teams had of Carolina that had a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to get in when you got to selection Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>But to set everybody the way you did, with you

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<v Speaker 2>do clearly being a number one, that was easy to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Clemson getting the five and Carolina getting in at all,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I would have expected that to mean Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>has a six seed at worst.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we haven't said these two words yet. Rain Smith,

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<v Speaker 3>is that for sure? Is he playing?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I hope. So he did get out there.

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<v Speaker 2>He got out there on Saturday and was going through

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<v Speaker 2>warm ups. I don't think the intention was to play,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was to kind of just get into that

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<v Speaker 2>routine to kind of see how close he was.

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<v Speaker 3>That wasn't they were messing with Duke's mind.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so, but you know, you could tell

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<v Speaker 2>there's an emphasis from college coaches around the country to

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<v Speaker 2>let people know that an injured player who they're monitoring

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<v Speaker 2>is good to go, because they don't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>they don't want to be punished by like Cooper Flagg.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he'll play, but Duke would stand no benefit

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<v Speaker 2>to put it out there if he's not going to.

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<v Speaker 2>So Rain will now have a complete two week break

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<v Speaker 2>from from, you know, playing in a game since the

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<v Speaker 2>ankle injury happened. So I think it comes down to

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<v Speaker 2>canny monitor pain that kind of stuff, or well, can

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<v Speaker 2>he handle pain? I should say, But I just know

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<v Speaker 2>when they got to Charlotte he'd not been able to

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<v Speaker 2>do much yet, so I would imagine he'd probably need

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty quick recovery in the last week or so.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's definitely a weapon that you love to have

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<v Speaker 2>out there because he can flip a game in an instant,

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<v Speaker 2>but also the opponent has to account for him at

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<v Speaker 2>all times. Spacing is so much better and he is.

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<v Speaker 2>This is an underrated, underrated strength of his that I

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<v Speaker 2>think is so valuable. He knows what he does as

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<v Speaker 2>far as commanding attention, and he's always moving, so it

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<v Speaker 2>just creates so much more space for everybody else. You

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<v Speaker 2>can tell he's aware of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he is. He is the force that forces the

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<v Speaker 3>other team to react to him all the time, which

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<v Speaker 3>gives you your openings. Without him, we haven't had that

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<v Speaker 3>same sort of like nuisance factor that the other team

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<v Speaker 3>has to panic a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some guys on this team that I think I

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<v Speaker 2>would say maybe not half, but close to it as

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<v Speaker 2>far as their point production comes from bright place right

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<v Speaker 2>time because of how they're guarding ranked Smith or because

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<v Speaker 2>they've got you know, there there are two guys running

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<v Speaker 2>at him to try to contest his shot that leads

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<v Speaker 2>to a clean up bucket. Budge vonn Hadley or James Scott.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, Rain's the guy that I knew is valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>But seeing this team offensively without him, I mean you

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<v Speaker 2>can just tell it's they're.

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit more easier to defend. Chucky and Terrence

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<v Speaker 3>have been brilliant. Thank God for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness to Javaon is in there busting on

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<v Speaker 2>D two. It's so great against Clemson and then with

423
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<v Speaker 2>Terrence Edwards. I mean, I don't know where it will

424
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<v Speaker 2>be remembered down the line, but acc championship game begins

425
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<v Speaker 2>to Duke, a kid who transferred in from James Madison

426
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<v Speaker 2>puts up thirty on Duke. I mean it was I

427
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<v Speaker 2>felt like that was a really I mean hate that

428
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<v Speaker 2>it came in a loss, But these guys, man, they

429
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<v Speaker 2>compete first half. I wish it could have ended then

430
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<v Speaker 2>because they had the lead, but they're not. I thought

431
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<v Speaker 2>that game, even without Cooper flag, in that situation you're

432
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<v Speaker 2>playing Duke in Charlotte, I thought that that was really

433
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<v Speaker 2>a prove it moment for so that we belong and

434
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<v Speaker 2>this is who we are, and yet you didn't get

435
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<v Speaker 2>anything that further.

436
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that that made no sense that a halftime

437
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<v Speaker 3>of that Duke came. He thought, all right, these guys

438
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<v Speaker 3>can't compete with anybody.

439
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if Chucky doesn't make the game winner against

440
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<v Speaker 2>Clemson and you lose that game or not Clemson, I'm

441
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<v Speaker 2>sorry smu of Stanford. I'm sorry Stanford. I don't even

442
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<v Speaker 2>whereould they have been like they beat Clemson. They got

443
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<v Speaker 2>their most valuable win of the season, a neutral sight

444
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<v Speaker 2>win against Clemson, and they thought that Clemson was still

445
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<v Speaker 2>a five seat and then two days later you get

446
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<v Speaker 2>seated with an eight.

447
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<v Speaker 3>We were going to win an overtime, by the way, Yes, Stanford,

448
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<v Speaker 3>I felt I think got a little flop back. I

449
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<v Speaker 3>thought that Louisville had all the mo at that time. Nonetheless,

450
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<v Speaker 3>you know, we had a moment against e Ku way

451
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<v Speaker 3>back in the season and then all of a sudden, Noah,

452
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<v Speaker 3>I had to pull out our bacon and win right there.

453
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<v Speaker 3>That changed the chemistry of the season significantly. And the

454
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<v Speaker 3>uprise has been just phenomenal, the uptick through this whole thing.

455
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<v Speaker 3>So nothing pointed to this law loss of momentum. And

456
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<v Speaker 3>I just you're right. I think Kelsey's good about getting

457
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<v Speaker 3>in their ears is like water over the dam.

458
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<v Speaker 2>He's the kind of leader that can navigate you through

459
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<v Speaker 2>this to where these guys they'll be playing with something

460
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<v Speaker 2>to prove. But also you know they're not gonna feel

461
00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:15.359
<v Speaker 2>sorry for themselves. They're not gonna look ahead, They're gonna

462
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<v Speaker 2>be ready to go. I think yeah, and Creighton is

463
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<v Speaker 2>a formidable opponent. We know that Kentucky can handle Troy.

464
00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:26.599
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky fans, truthfully, I think are already eyebowling a Tennessee

465
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<v Speaker 2>match and fair fair enough to say Tennessee spits the

466
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<v Speaker 2>bit in big games, and they certainly did this year

467
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<v Speaker 2>against Kentucky. I mean, Kentucky didn't have a full team

468
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<v Speaker 2>in either of those games and one and really didn't

469
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<v Speaker 2>need to play that well to do it. But I've

470
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<v Speaker 2>watched Tennessee play other times and they look really, really good.

471
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<v Speaker 2>But Mark Pope, he's he's got something for the balls

472
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<v Speaker 2>so far this year. But I think the potential Illinois

473
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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky matchup in the second round, I just think that

474
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<v Speaker 2>should be that could be a really that should be

475
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<v Speaker 2>a really competitive game. I think Kentucky, if at full strength,

476
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<v Speaker 2>is clearly a better team, and they probably are as is.

477
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<v Speaker 2>But Illinois, Brad Underwood a tough team. He's done pretty

478
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<v Speaker 2>well in the tournament, so I you know, both teams

479
00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:08.039
<v Speaker 2>got to get there. I'm sure there's gonna be some upsets,

480
00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:10.039
<v Speaker 2>but that three six matchup in Milwaukee could be one

481
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<v Speaker 2>of the better ones of the Round of thirty two.

482
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<v Speaker 2>If that's what we end up.

483
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<v Speaker 3>Getting, Kentucky doesn't need to worry about Texas or Xavier

484
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<v Speaker 3>emerging over Illinois.

485
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<v Speaker 2>That's I mean, I would, I would. I have a

486
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<v Speaker 2>lot of respect. I think Illinois was one of the

487
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<v Speaker 2>better teams in the Big Ten this year, even though

488
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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't great. Texas is the team I can't figure out,

489
00:20:27.079 --> 00:20:29.559
<v Speaker 2>because they did get really good wins in conference play

490
00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:31.480
<v Speaker 2>at the end that put them in the tournament, but

491
00:20:31.480 --> 00:20:33.559
<v Speaker 2>everything else prior to that would show you that they're

492
00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:37.799
<v Speaker 2>pretty average. Xavier, they were another bubble team. I haven't

493
00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:40.200
<v Speaker 2>seen a whole lot of them this year, but Sean Miller,

494
00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:43.000
<v Speaker 2>he's made some deep tournament runs before. So yeah, those

495
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<v Speaker 2>are the kind of games that you know, I just

496
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<v Speaker 2>assume that it's gonna be Illinois been sure enough. They're

497
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<v Speaker 2>gonna have a tough game to get past, a tough

498
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<v Speaker 2>time getting past their first pponent too.

499
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<v Speaker 3>For everybody did Florida show everyone yesterday that they are

500
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<v Speaker 3>the team to be.

501
00:20:54.839 --> 00:20:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I think Florida in the last couple of weeks has

502
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<v Speaker 2>looked like the best team in the country, and all

503
00:20:58.359 --> 00:20:59.960
<v Speaker 2>they did was more so show that this past week

504
00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:02.200
<v Speaker 2>can winning the SEC tournament, which would some would say

505
00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:05.279
<v Speaker 2>might actually be more more to challenging than winning this tournament.

506
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<v Speaker 4>I would agree. They're relentless and they're deep. They just

507
00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:10.480
<v Speaker 4>keep coming at you. You think you're making a play,

508
00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:12.359
<v Speaker 4>and it's like twelve again.

509
00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. When they when they beat Bama by double digits

510
00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:17.200
<v Speaker 2>in Tuscaloosa a couple weeks ago, that's when I thought, Okay,

511
00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:19.559
<v Speaker 2>a lot of talk about Bama. Auburn Duke of course

512
00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:21.799
<v Speaker 2>is great, but man, this Florida team, they're they're elite.

513
00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:24.839
<v Speaker 3>Okay, what about fools Gold. This happens every year. Here

514
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<v Speaker 3>we are on Monday, and everybody looks at their brackets

515
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<v Speaker 3>and you think, oh, there's the Tom Is Oh Hawaii Dave.

516
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<v Speaker 3>He's been there for one hundred years. Boy, he's not

517
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<v Speaker 3>gonna lose. And then Michigan State, while you know, oftentimes

518
00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:40.839
<v Speaker 3>just walks away confusing people.

519
00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:44.160
<v Speaker 4>He's good in the tournament though, is is pick who

520
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<v Speaker 4>are some of.

521
00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:50.759
<v Speaker 3>The fools gold teams that people need to reconsider instead

522
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<v Speaker 3>of because a lot of people fill out brackets and

523
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<v Speaker 3>then they get into some areas and go, well, I like, uh,

524
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<v Speaker 3>I know who that is and fill it down.

525
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<v Speaker 2>I would say for me, and this is a three seat,

526
00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:01.319
<v Speaker 2>so it's still a seat that's expected to go pretty far.

527
00:22:01.359 --> 00:22:04.480
<v Speaker 2>But Texas Tech they really really fell apart towards the

528
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<v Speaker 2>end of the season. Their three seed, their first round

529
00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:08.799
<v Speaker 2>matchups against Lips. I'm not sure if they're going to

530
00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:10.759
<v Speaker 2>get much of a challenge there, but for I think

531
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<v Speaker 2>they're about as vulnerable as any three seed in that

532
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<v Speaker 2>potential second round because it's likely going to be Old

533
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<v Speaker 2>Miss in Iowa State. They do a really good job

534
00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:21.200
<v Speaker 2>of manipulating the quad system in a different way where

535
00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:23.200
<v Speaker 2>if you play a lot of if you schedule a

536
00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:26.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of teams that are in the three hundreds, that'll

537
00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:28.319
<v Speaker 2>hurt you even because you can't beat them by enough

538
00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:30.000
<v Speaker 2>for it to do anything but hurt you. Wake Forest

539
00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:31.920
<v Speaker 2>is an example of that. Wake Forest literally should have

540
00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:34.440
<v Speaker 2>been should have been a tournament profile all year, but

541
00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:36.440
<v Speaker 2>they scheduled so awful in the non conference and didn't

542
00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:39.240
<v Speaker 2>win those games by enough Iowa State. They schedule those

543
00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:41.880
<v Speaker 2>teams and they strategically play their starters the whole game,

544
00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:44.279
<v Speaker 2>beat them by forty and fifty, and it actually boosts

545
00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:46.160
<v Speaker 2>them up. So I think part of the seeding for

546
00:22:46.200 --> 00:22:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Iowa State is maybe not as much as how good

547
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<v Speaker 2>they are. They just they cooked the books a little bit.

548
00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:53.319
<v Speaker 2>They did some things to really improve their numbers, and

549
00:22:53.359 --> 00:22:54.880
<v Speaker 2>really they've lost. I think it was three of their

550
00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:56.759
<v Speaker 2>last four to close out the season. So of the

551
00:22:56.799 --> 00:22:59.000
<v Speaker 2>top three seeds, I would say they're the most vulnerable.

552
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<v Speaker 2>But I really think Terry all the ones and twos,

553
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think that's a kind of I think

554
00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:05.559
<v Speaker 2>they've got some clear separation between the pack.

555
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<v Speaker 3>No doubt. What about the other Patino, Richard New Mexico.

556
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<v Speaker 3>You know, he seems like he's sitting in a spot

557
00:23:12.279 --> 00:23:15.160
<v Speaker 3>where if they can handle Michigan State, well that's good,

558
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<v Speaker 3>get interesting.

559
00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:18.200
<v Speaker 2>No doubt. I think Richard Patino, when he's done a

560
00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:20.079
<v Speaker 2>phenomenal job this year with this group. If they lost

561
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<v Speaker 2>their best player to Texas Tech, who ended up being

562
00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:24.119
<v Speaker 2>one of the best teams in the Big Twelve, to

563
00:23:24.160 --> 00:23:26.440
<v Speaker 2>the Portal, he went out added some new players big

564
00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:29.200
<v Speaker 2>no real big names, but yet he won the Mountain

565
00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:32.000
<v Speaker 2>West once again Coach of the Year. So Richard's a

566
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<v Speaker 2>really good coach. Minnesota firing their coach last week and

567
00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:37.880
<v Speaker 2>everybody reminding themselves, oh yeah, nobody's ever woned Minnesota other

568
00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:40.960
<v Speaker 2>than coach Haskins from WKU, who did win, but he

569
00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:43.480
<v Speaker 2>got caught cheating when he was doing it. So Richard's

570
00:23:43.480 --> 00:23:45.640
<v Speaker 2>a good coach. That would be quite the story if

571
00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:48.319
<v Speaker 2>he's able to make his first deep run into the tournament. Obviously,

572
00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:50.440
<v Speaker 2>his dad's now being talked about more so than I

573
00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:52.200
<v Speaker 2>feel like he has in a long long time. He's

574
00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:54.680
<v Speaker 2>got all the shine with his run at Saint John's,

575
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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, I don't know how deep they can go.

576
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<v Speaker 2>But New Mexico's a team I wouldn't want to play.

577
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<v Speaker 3>All right, we're not revealing our winners quite yet. Well,

578
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<v Speaker 3>then we'll talk later on this afternoon. It's good, but

579
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<v Speaker 3>my winner is an SEC team. Say here, we'll leave

580
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<v Speaker 3>it to that. That's Nick Coffee. I'm Terry Miners back

581
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<v Speaker 3>in a few on news radio A forty WA chance

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<v Speaker 3>and seven ninety kr D.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven to nine, day.

585
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<v Speaker 2>It does feel good to be dancing once again. But

586
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<v Speaker 2>if there's one day to complain and it really won't

587
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<v Speaker 2>do any good. But yeah, I don't think I've There's

588
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<v Speaker 2>no way I was as disappoint I mean, honestly, last

589
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<v Speaker 2>night was as disappointed as I've been as a level

590
00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:40.559
<v Speaker 2>basketball fan since pack Kelsey got the job. Seriously, I

591
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<v Speaker 2>mean I didn't expect Louville to be in the tournament

592
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<v Speaker 2>in year one. I mean I thought they could. I

593
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<v Speaker 2>knew We're now in a world where you can get

594
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<v Speaker 2>there quicker, you can rebuild it quicker, because obviously you

595
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:52.000
<v Speaker 2>can just go get a new team, right, But to

596
00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:56.000
<v Speaker 2>have this team exceed expectations put themselves in a spot

597
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<v Speaker 2>to where they played in the ACC Championship game eighteen

598
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<v Speaker 2>and two in your league, even if the legue isn't great.

599
00:25:01.039 --> 00:25:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean the disappointment that hit me yesterday when I

600
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<v Speaker 2>saw them come in at number eight, I mean again,

601
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<v Speaker 2>it was like it was a feeling that I really

602
00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:14.240
<v Speaker 2>haven't hadn't had in a long time. I mean again,

603
00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:16.319
<v Speaker 2>when Louisvill lost earlier this year to teams, I mean,

604
00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:19.799
<v Speaker 2>that's that sucks. Nobody likes losing. But again I think

605
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<v Speaker 2>part of that feeling of real disappointment and sadness, there's

606
00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:26.720
<v Speaker 2>there's a level of expectation that has a role in

607
00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:29.400
<v Speaker 2>you feeling that way, right Like, if you don't have

608
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<v Speaker 2>any real belief or expectation that you're gonna get you know,

609
00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:35.079
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna go win the lottery, or you're really bummed

610
00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:37.440
<v Speaker 2>when your ticket's not a winner. I mean, yeah, you

611
00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:39.640
<v Speaker 2>wish you won, but you didn't feel like you had

612
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<v Speaker 2>no real expectation of it happening. It wasn't realistic in

613
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<v Speaker 2>your mind. So it's been a long time since I've

614
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<v Speaker 2>been disappointed in love of basketball, to be honest with you,

615
00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:50.680
<v Speaker 2>because I mean the whole Kenny payn era, I mean

616
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<v Speaker 2>we were disappointed from the beginning and never it never

617
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:54.759
<v Speaker 2>got it never got better, and there it was never

618
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<v Speaker 2>something that many realistic people believed was going to be

619
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<v Speaker 2>anywhere good enough for that thing to be sustained. So

620
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<v Speaker 2>to have the moment, you know, selection Sunday, knowing you're

621
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<v Speaker 2>going to be a part of it, I mean, that's

622
00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:10.079
<v Speaker 2>what this all builds up for, right Like, quite literally

623
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<v Speaker 2>everything about the roller coaster that is your college basketball

624
00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:17.039
<v Speaker 2>regular season is built up to see what you get

625
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<v Speaker 2>when you get to selection Sunday, and of course, you know,

626
00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:20.920
<v Speaker 2>sometimes you don't even know if you're going to be in.

627
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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you know you're in. Sometimes you know you have

628
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<v Speaker 2>a great seed. Louisville I feel like could have been

629
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<v Speaker 2>seated in a lot of different ways. But eight was

630
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<v Speaker 2>was really not at all what I expected after seeing

631
00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:34.079
<v Speaker 2>what they did in Charlotte and looking at how they

632
00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:39.079
<v Speaker 2>seeded the rest of the ACC. So I mean, I mean,

633
00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm still happy. I'm going to embrace that we get

634
00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:43.680
<v Speaker 2>to go to Lexington. There's a lot of you know,

635
00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:46.279
<v Speaker 2>there's one positive, and that is the fact that you're close.

636
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:48.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't like the opponent and those saying, well, hey

637
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Auburn's lost three or four, Okay, yeah, I don't want

638
00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:53.400
<v Speaker 2>to play Auburn. I mean, you might have to, and

639
00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:55.640
<v Speaker 2>if so, we'll see what happens. But like, I just

640
00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:58.200
<v Speaker 2>can't go. I can't. I mean, I can't get there

641
00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:00.079
<v Speaker 2>with some people that are trying to act like this

642
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:02.880
<v Speaker 2>isn't some really really really tough thing that was put

643
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:04.680
<v Speaker 2>in front of this team. Again, just think about this.

644
00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:08.240
<v Speaker 2>Louisville has to get past the second place biggiest team,

645
00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:10.960
<v Speaker 2>a team who play in the bigiest championship just two

646
00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:13.640
<v Speaker 2>days before selection Sunday, or just two days ago today.

647
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:17.200
<v Speaker 2>They got to just get past them to get to

648
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:20.000
<v Speaker 2>play the number one overall seed in Auburn, just to

649
00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:22.119
<v Speaker 2>then get to the sweet sixteen the second weekend. I mean,

650
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:25.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you could have been nobody outside of

651
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:28.119
<v Speaker 2>the people who made this decision, the committee, nobody would

652
00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:31.960
<v Speaker 2>have objectively put Louisville in that spot. Makes no sense.

653
00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean the ap pole. I understand the ap pole

654
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:39.359
<v Speaker 2>does not matter, and we talk about that quite a bit,

655
00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:40.960
<v Speaker 2>but you know what the ap pole does give you.

656
00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:49.160
<v Speaker 2>It gives you perception. Those who vote on the apeopole.

657
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:51.759
<v Speaker 2>The writers, those who have a vote, say what you

658
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:54.759
<v Speaker 2>want about them. They're they're objective. They're not fanboys. They're

659
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:57.279
<v Speaker 2>people who are you know, Capital Jay's and they may

660
00:27:57.359 --> 00:27:59.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, they may be great writers, back you know, good,

661
00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but they're objective, like when you and

662
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:04.599
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of them, it's not just one or two.

663
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:08.200
<v Speaker 2>So to have them currently vote Louisville as a team

664
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:10.839
<v Speaker 2>they believe as a top ten caliber team and then

665
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:12.599
<v Speaker 2>see them get an eight seed is insane. So again

666
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:14.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying we should use the AP but it

667
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:18.480
<v Speaker 2>just gives you another perspective as to how off the

668
00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:21.240
<v Speaker 2>committee was. The committee is the only it's the only

669
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:23.799
<v Speaker 2>again it's the only one that matters, but it's also

670
00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:26.519
<v Speaker 2>the only where, the only place you'll find anybody that

671
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:29.519
<v Speaker 2>viewed Louisville in that way to give them an eight seed.

672
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:34.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Louisville right now becomes the first. This is

673
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:37.279
<v Speaker 2>just insane. And again I'm not just to clarify we

674
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:39.119
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't base it off the AP pole, but I'm just

675
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:43.519
<v Speaker 2>telling you the committee decided to view Louisville entirely different

676
00:28:43.519 --> 00:28:45.720
<v Speaker 2>than just about everybody, I think everybody. And they didn't

677
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.359
<v Speaker 2>just view them differently, they viewed them insanely differently. But

678
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:54.000
<v Speaker 2>seeds one in the updated top ten, the eight of

679
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:58.319
<v Speaker 2>the top ten are ones and two seeds, and the

680
00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:01.839
<v Speaker 2>ninth seed or the ninth ranked team is a three seed.

681
00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Louisville is the tenth rank team in the eight people

682
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:07.079
<v Speaker 2>they're an eight seed. So again they clearly, you know,

683
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:10.240
<v Speaker 2>it's just Louisville that they clearly view that much differently.

684
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:12.039
<v Speaker 2>And again the ones and twos were pretty clear. So

685
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:13.839
<v Speaker 2>maybe that's not the best example, but again, it's just

686
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:16.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you just can't. It doesn't make any sense.

687
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, when you when you look at Duke getting

688
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:24.519
<v Speaker 2>a number one overall seed, that was gonna happen regardless,

689
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:26.119
<v Speaker 2>So maybe I should stop referencing that. But what it

690
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:30.480
<v Speaker 2>comes down to is Clemson getting a five. Make it

691
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:34.200
<v Speaker 2>just makes no sense at all. If Louisville is an eight.

692
00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:38.519
<v Speaker 2>Carolina getting in the tournament makes no sense at all.

693
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:43.519
<v Speaker 2>If Louisville is an eight, I mean, it just doesn't.

694
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:47.960
<v Speaker 2>And look, if you were gonna tell me that Louisville

695
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:50.200
<v Speaker 2>would be an eight seed, I still would have been

696
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:52.720
<v Speaker 2>stunned in any way, but I would I thought that

697
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:55.279
<v Speaker 2>would have meant that North Carolina's not sniff in the

698
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:58.599
<v Speaker 2>tournament and that Clemson's a seven. And I still would

699
00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:02.680
<v Speaker 2>have thought that was ridiculous. But the league was down right.

700
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:04.880
<v Speaker 2>And that's why when I would talk about it throughout

701
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:08.200
<v Speaker 2>the season, it wasn't like I was making a It

702
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:10.119
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like I was being critical. It wasn't like I

703
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:12.799
<v Speaker 2>was really even trying to be negative. I was just

704
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:14.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, and trust me, this isn't and I told

705
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:17.119
<v Speaker 2>you so a moment because again, if I could say

706
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:19.920
<v Speaker 2>that one, I would. But this doesn't mean I was right.

707
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:22.079
<v Speaker 2>It means the committee is inconsistent and they goofed on

708
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:26.680
<v Speaker 2>this because Louisville going into last night. I looked it

709
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:29.720
<v Speaker 2>up yesterday on I think it was bracketologist dot com,

710
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:31.519
<v Speaker 2>as is the website that has the tool where you

711
00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:34.440
<v Speaker 2>can compare everybody's resume, so based off of bracket Matrix

712
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:37.240
<v Speaker 2>and wherever. But I mean, Louisville was talked about as

713
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:39.440
<v Speaker 2>like a five or six, like seven seemed like the

714
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:42.119
<v Speaker 2>absolute worst, and it seemed unlikely based off everything else.

715
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:45.799
<v Speaker 2>So I went and looked at Louisville's resume compared to

716
00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:49.759
<v Speaker 2>all the other teams that were believed to be competing

717
00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:53.279
<v Speaker 2>for that five to six maybe seven line, and of

718
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:59.480
<v Speaker 2>all those teams, Louisville clearly had one glaring issue. They

719
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't I mean, they didn't have many good wins. In fact,

720
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:07.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, this doesn't say anything about Louisville, it's just

721
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:10.880
<v Speaker 2>the way it played out Louisville. I think. Actually I

722
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:13.599
<v Speaker 2>thought the game against Duke, even without Cooper flag in Charlotte,

723
00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:15.640
<v Speaker 2>by the way, playing Duke there, I felt like that

724
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:17.119
<v Speaker 2>was like I kind of felt like, no matter what

725
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:18.640
<v Speaker 2>happens the rest of the way. Even though they lost,

726
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:20.920
<v Speaker 2>surely anybody who watched that knows Louisville proved that they're

727
00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:22.720
<v Speaker 2>a good team. They may not be elite, they may

728
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:24.799
<v Speaker 2>not be a top four seed, but man, I thought

729
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.319
<v Speaker 2>that showed that they, you know, they belonged, Like if

730
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:29.960
<v Speaker 2>you didn't have like if you felt like the numbers

731
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.000
<v Speaker 2>could could make you go one way or the other,

732
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:34.440
<v Speaker 2>which they could, by the way, because again there's two

733
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:36.039
<v Speaker 2>different ways you can look at Louisville. You can say, look,

734
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:38.079
<v Speaker 2>great resid or a great season as far as wins

735
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:40.160
<v Speaker 2>and losses, but you didn't beat anybody good, you don't

736
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:43.759
<v Speaker 2>have enough good wins. Or you can say, look louisll

737
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:45.839
<v Speaker 2>lost to only good teams. There's only one team that

738
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:47.680
<v Speaker 2>they played that's not going to be the only one

739
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:48.880
<v Speaker 2>team that beat them, that's not going to be in

740
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.200
<v Speaker 2>the tournament. And they went eighteen and two in their league.

741
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.839
<v Speaker 2>They beat Clemson twice. So again, it just it was

742
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:57.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna come down to how you you know, which way

743
00:31:58.000 --> 00:31:59.920
<v Speaker 2>you wanted to look at it. And I felt like

744
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:02.119
<v Speaker 2>if you were somebody on the fence, or maybe more

745
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:04.759
<v Speaker 2>so leaning towards not giving them the benefit of the

746
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:08.359
<v Speaker 2>doubt and just assuming that you know, they're simply a

747
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.960
<v Speaker 2>product of a down league. I thought the Duke game

748
00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:13.119
<v Speaker 2>showed you that, like maybe you know, again it's a

749
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:16.200
<v Speaker 2>loss still, but I felt like that seeing them compete

750
00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:18.039
<v Speaker 2>in that way. And again, I know Cooper Flagg didn't play,

751
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:20.279
<v Speaker 2>but that doesn't matter. Duke without Cooper flag could still

752
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:22.599
<v Speaker 2>win the whole thing. I don't think they will, and

753
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:24.160
<v Speaker 2>I think he will come back, but like, Duke's really

754
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:27.880
<v Speaker 2>really talented even without him, and they're good, So you know,

755
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:32.519
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know how they The committee was just

756
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:34.759
<v Speaker 2>so different than not just like Louisville fans who want

757
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:37.079
<v Speaker 2>their team to get the best seat possible, but they

758
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:39.920
<v Speaker 2>the committee viewed a little different than everybody. I mean,

759
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:41.799
<v Speaker 2>it just doesn't it doesn't make any sense at all.

760
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:46.400
<v Speaker 2>So again, if your best win is Clemson twice and

761
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:48.599
<v Speaker 2>your second best win is the last team they put in,

762
00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:52.559
<v Speaker 2>which is Carolina, that is absolutely not a good place

763
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:55.319
<v Speaker 2>to be. And that worried me deep down. I kept thinking,

764
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:57.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's all gonna come down to how they

765
00:32:57.319 --> 00:32:59.240
<v Speaker 2>decide to view this team, and I said it a lot,

766
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:04.240
<v Speaker 2>so if it would have just been that, I mean,

767
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I still would have been upset. I wouldn't agreed with it,

768
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:07.200
<v Speaker 2>but it would have at least, you know, it would

769
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.119
<v Speaker 2>have been a little more fair. But to see Clemson

770
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:12.160
<v Speaker 2>get the vive in Carolina get in, so like what

771
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Carolina got in for? Like what really helped Carolina become

772
00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:18.559
<v Speaker 2>that last team in of course, other than their athletic

773
00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:21.200
<v Speaker 2>director being the chairman of the committee, which we got

774
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:24.799
<v Speaker 2>to talk about that later. That's that's a bigger The

775
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:28.519
<v Speaker 2>arrogance of the nc douablea as an entity to not

776
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:33.279
<v Speaker 2>to just assume people won't raise questions about the conflict

777
00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:35.640
<v Speaker 2>of interest there is insane. It's really another reminder that

778
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:41.039
<v Speaker 2>what's what purpose does the NSABA serve? None? None? But again,

779
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:44.400
<v Speaker 2>when it comes down to Carolina, what helped Carolina get

780
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:47.640
<v Speaker 2>in Louis Will got no credit for. And I'm not

781
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:51.119
<v Speaker 2>one for conspiracies, I really am not, because I just

782
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:54.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, sometimes they're fun to talk about on the show,

783
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:55.480
<v Speaker 2>but I don't know what it is. But I I

784
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:57.920
<v Speaker 2>just it's not even really giving people a benefit of nout.

785
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.559
<v Speaker 2>But I just I don't fall in this world of like,

786
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:04.319
<v Speaker 2>you know that people who are in powerful positions that

787
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:07.359
<v Speaker 2>have you know, like people on the committee. I shouldn't

788
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:10.159
<v Speaker 2>assume that they would make some crazy mistake because you know,

789
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:12.880
<v Speaker 2>they're successful people. They ended up on the selection committee.

790
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:16.119
<v Speaker 2>They work for universities and power conferences. But I think

791
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:19.280
<v Speaker 2>you could make the case that they might have actually

792
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.639
<v Speaker 2>just switched teams accidentally and not realized it. I mean,

793
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:24.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you guys have seen the comparisons,

794
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:26.000
<v Speaker 2>if you base, if you go, if you go look

795
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:28.079
<v Speaker 2>at and I'll pull out all reference the numbers here,

796
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:31.440
<v Speaker 2>if you go look at the profiles for these two teams,

797
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:35.199
<v Speaker 2>and you look at where they where they seated each

798
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:39.280
<v Speaker 2>of them. Again, in all seriousness, I don't believe that

799
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:41.320
<v Speaker 2>they that this could happen and them not notice it.

800
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:44.880
<v Speaker 2>But maybe I shouldn't just assume that they're gonna not

801
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:48.039
<v Speaker 2>have a goof like this because Louisville and Memphis, I'm

802
00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:50.760
<v Speaker 2>pretty sure Louisville should be the five in Memphis should

803
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:54.159
<v Speaker 2>be the eight, because again that actually I mean that

804
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:57.920
<v Speaker 2>actually breaks. So yeah, as of March seventeenth, as of yeah,

805
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:03.199
<v Speaker 2>that's today, there's between Louisville and Memphis. Across all the

806
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:06.800
<v Speaker 2>different ranking systems, Louisville is twenty four in the net. Again,

807
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:10.159
<v Speaker 2>the net is the formula that the NCAA created, that's

808
00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:12.360
<v Speaker 2>the one they're supposed to value more than anything. Louisville

809
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.000
<v Speaker 2>is twenty fourth in the net and they're an eight seed,

810
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Memphis forty ninth in the net. In their five seed

811
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Louisville and the Ken Palm twenty three, Memphis thirty four

812
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:28.760
<v Speaker 2>bart Torvik, which is the new formula that is now calculated,

813
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:36.599
<v Speaker 2>Louisville's nineteenth Memphis is forty espn BPI, Louisvill's twenty Memphis

814
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:42.840
<v Speaker 2>is forty two. So think about this, their new formula,

815
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.760
<v Speaker 2>they're using bart Torvick which was added, and their own

816
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:50.440
<v Speaker 2>insanely high on Louisville, and they give him an eight.

817
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Bubba Cunningham, obviously, everybody wants to hear what he had

818
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:58.000
<v Speaker 2>to say about Carolina getting in. How he has no involvement, YadA, YadA, YadA.

819
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:00.760
<v Speaker 2>But he was asked about Louisville and what he said

820
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:03.119
<v Speaker 2>is that they used the Torfic rankings this year as

821
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:06.320
<v Speaker 2>part of the decision making process. Is if it was really,

822
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:09.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, a bigger factor, Louisville again would have been

823
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:11.480
<v Speaker 2>a five seed based off those rankings. Again, I'm not

824
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:15.199
<v Speaker 2>one to actually think something like this. I mean, it's possible, certainly,

825
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:16.679
<v Speaker 2>I just I you know, maybe I'm just giving people

826
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:18.199
<v Speaker 2>the benefit it out because I assume there's no way they

827
00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:21.039
<v Speaker 2>would make that kind of a mistake. But maybe they

828
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:24.079
<v Speaker 2>did because they can't justify that they I mean, they

829
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:25.800
<v Speaker 2>don't have to, which is the real problem. There's no

830
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:27.719
<v Speaker 2>mean they can do whatever they want and just decide

831
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:29.400
<v Speaker 2>that that's how we decided to do it, that's how

832
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:33.639
<v Speaker 2>we see it. So again, I'm not a lunatic when

833
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:35.440
<v Speaker 2>it comes to just thinking that that that you know,

834
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:38.000
<v Speaker 2>this for sure happened, But if you found out that

835
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:40.400
<v Speaker 2>it was a goof, would you be surprised? I Mean,

836
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:43.079
<v Speaker 2>this isn't something that people probably really care about. But

837
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:45.360
<v Speaker 2>like the n DOUAA, they own the NI T. I

838
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:46.480
<v Speaker 2>don't if you guys know that or not. Did you

839
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:48.000
<v Speaker 2>guys hear about the goof last night of the n

840
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:50.880
<v Speaker 2>I T where they invited a team and told them

841
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.960
<v Speaker 2>they were coming, only to then't rescind the invite because

842
00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:57.800
<v Speaker 2>they didn't realize that a team that initially they wanted

843
00:36:57.800 --> 00:36:59.239
<v Speaker 2>to come was going to be able to come like it.

844
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:02.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe these kind of things do happen. But anyways,

845
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I promise you we're not gonna at least I'm gonna

846
00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:06.039
<v Speaker 2>try not to bitch and mow in the rest of

847
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:08.039
<v Speaker 2>the entire show. But if there is a day to

848
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:10.960
<v Speaker 2>get it off my chest, it's today when we talk brackets.

849
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:14.400
<v Speaker 2>It's what we do. It's our annual carriage board Monday marathon,

850
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 2>and I got to get it out of my system because,

851
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:19.199
<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, yesterday, last night, that was

852
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:22.440
<v Speaker 2>the most disappointed I've been in a long long time

853
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:25.280
<v Speaker 2>for little basketball. Because again, let's consider what really brings

854
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:27.280
<v Speaker 2>you to the level of disappointment. There's got to be

855
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:29.599
<v Speaker 2>some level of expectation. I was never disappointed in this

856
00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:31.039
<v Speaker 2>team at any point. Like I didn't like when they

857
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:33.320
<v Speaker 2>lost games, they didn't play great all the time, But

858
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:35.159
<v Speaker 2>like I wasn't disappointed because, like I knew they were

859
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:37.480
<v Speaker 2>given everything they had and that we were making the

860
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:39.559
<v Speaker 2>most out of the situation when Kitty Payne was here,

861
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:42.440
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't disappointed because the disappointment set in pretty early

862
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:45.440
<v Speaker 2>and it just never changed. Last night, hit me, hit

863
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:48.599
<v Speaker 2>me in the gut. Did not like it. All right,

864
00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:51.559
<v Speaker 2>Look what you guys have probably already done, is filled

865
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:53.320
<v Speaker 2>out of bracket. What I want to tell you guys

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<v Speaker 2>Keep this thing rolling along on the other side right

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so if you guys want to join us,

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<v Speaker 2>you can. We don't have a whole lot of time

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<v Speaker 2>so a lot to unpack with this, this entire bracket,

902
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:22.519
<v Speaker 2>which we'll do throughout these next couple of hours. But

903
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:24.360
<v Speaker 2>just one real one, one real quick one to think

904
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:26.480
<v Speaker 2>one thing I wanted to mention that you did here.

905
00:39:26.559 --> 00:39:27.840
<v Speaker 2>If you were listening to the beginning of the show,

906
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:31.440
<v Speaker 2>but it really is. I mean, in all time reminder

907
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:35.480
<v Speaker 2>that they do, in fact pay attention to potential storylines

908
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:38.320
<v Speaker 2>that can help generate, you know, interest in specific matchups.

909
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:41.519
<v Speaker 2>If they end up happening and having Arkansas and Saint

910
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:43.960
<v Speaker 2>John's potentially play each other in the round of thirty two,

911
00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:47.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean that would be such a weird experience for

912
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:52.079
<v Speaker 2>fans around here because I mean, it's col verse Rick,

913
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:53.840
<v Speaker 2>but like, we're not involved, and I'm not sure any

914
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:56.280
<v Speaker 2>of us ever thought we'd get that again, right, And look,

915
00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:58.719
<v Speaker 2>both teams got to get past their first opponent, Saint John's.

916
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think we'll have a whole lot of trouble

917
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:05.800
<v Speaker 2>with Omaha. But Kansas Arkansas, I mean, Arkansas is gonna

918
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:08.239
<v Speaker 2>be underdogs and for good reason, so we might not

919
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:09.920
<v Speaker 2>even get it. Probably won't even get it. If I'm

920
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:12.079
<v Speaker 2>being honest with you, I don't think Arkansas will beat Kansas,

921
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.719
<v Speaker 2>but the thought of that matchup is wild. And again,

922
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:19.280
<v Speaker 2>if they can, they will, meaning and I don't really

923
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:22.079
<v Speaker 2>see any real issue they clearly I'm gonna take talk

924
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:23.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot and a lot of you know, I'm gonna

925
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:25.519
<v Speaker 2>say a lot of bad things about the INNC, double

926
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:28.280
<v Speaker 2>A and the committee and their selection process today, and

927
00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:30.599
<v Speaker 2>we've already done a lot of that. So this is

928
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:32.239
<v Speaker 2>just something I don't see issue with if in fact

929
00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:34.159
<v Speaker 2>they if they tried to deny it, that they're liars.

930
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:35.920
<v Speaker 2>But even if they did, tell us the yeah, if

931
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:40.079
<v Speaker 2>we can pick among teams that are you know, four

932
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:41.760
<v Speaker 2>teams in the sea line, if we can match a

933
00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:44.400
<v Speaker 2>team up with somebody that gives us a good storyline,

934
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:47.079
<v Speaker 2>then we'll do that, because you know, this is in

935
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:50.400
<v Speaker 2>fact an event that's for television, and the millions and

936
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:52.239
<v Speaker 2>millions of people that watch it on television is why

937
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:55.599
<v Speaker 2>it's worth so much money. But other than that, and

938
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:57.239
<v Speaker 2>again we got we've got plenty of time to to

939
00:40:57.320 --> 00:40:58.679
<v Speaker 2>kind of in fact, we got all weak to really

940
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:01.960
<v Speaker 2>talk about the actual games themselves, the matchups, which regions

941
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:04.119
<v Speaker 2>appear to be the strongest and the weakest, that kind

942
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:06.559
<v Speaker 2>of stuff. But you know, one thing that really stood

943
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:10.679
<v Speaker 2>out to me is that when I look at teams

944
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:14.079
<v Speaker 2>seeded six, seven, eight, even nine, and I did it.

945
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:15.599
<v Speaker 2>I noticed this yesterday when I was looking at all

946
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:17.800
<v Speaker 2>the different bracketology out there, thinking that there's no way

947
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:20.119
<v Speaker 2>Louisville could be an eight seed, because you know, that

948
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:21.880
<v Speaker 2>just doesn't make any sense. Where would that come from.

949
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:24.440
<v Speaker 2>But looking at teams like six through nine, I think

950
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:27.000
<v Speaker 2>that's a huge pool of teams that are all very similar.

951
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:28.920
<v Speaker 2>And I don't mean style of play. I just mean

952
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:31.159
<v Speaker 2>like they're all kind of in that same tier in

953
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:35.280
<v Speaker 2>my opinion as far as they're good. I think Seeds

954
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:39.400
<v Speaker 2>three through five are also kind of in their own tier.

955
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:44.480
<v Speaker 2>They're they're better than the rest of the pack outside

956
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:45.880
<v Speaker 2>of the elite tier, and the elite tier to me

957
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:48.440
<v Speaker 2>is Seeds one through two. I mean, I think Auburn,

958
00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Duke Houston, Florida, Saint John's, Tennessee, Alabama in Michigan State.

959
00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I do think those are those are the

960
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:01.519
<v Speaker 2>best teams in the country right now. And what I

961
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:04.159
<v Speaker 2>don't know, and we'll find out. You know, you saw

962
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:06.400
<v Speaker 2>some SEC teams run out of gas. I mean Florida

963
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:08.239
<v Speaker 2>really did that too. You know, Florida was a big

964
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:10.239
<v Speaker 2>factor in that certainly. I mean, if you Kentucky, I

965
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:12.280
<v Speaker 2>mean they got blown out by Alabama on Friday night.

966
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Only for Alabama, I didn't get blown out in their

967
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:18.320
<v Speaker 2>next game. So Auburn they've now lost was it three

968
00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:21.079
<v Speaker 2>or four, but they've all been against good teams, and

969
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:23.159
<v Speaker 2>they've all been you know, it's been it's been in

970
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:27.159
<v Speaker 2>the almighty sec So I don't know if if that

971
00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:29.480
<v Speaker 2>means these teams are vulnerable or not. But again, we'll

972
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:31.719
<v Speaker 2>find out. I mean, Louisville, if they can get past Creighton,

973
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:35.360
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna get Auburn. And I know they've lost more

974
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:38.079
<v Speaker 2>games in the last two weeks than they did all year,

975
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:41.280
<v Speaker 2>in fact, in the last ten days or something. But

976
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:45.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, when I thought of Louisville, because I've been

977
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:47.360
<v Speaker 2>pretty clear the Sweet sixteen is kind of what I'm

978
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:49.760
<v Speaker 2>is kind of like a dream thing for me this year.

979
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Like I I mean, maybe they get further than that,

980
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:53.320
<v Speaker 2>but like I've always been kind of saying, look, if

981
00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:54.599
<v Speaker 2>you can make the second week, and that would be

982
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:56.920
<v Speaker 2>like that would be you know, like making a Final four.

983
00:42:56.960 --> 00:42:58.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean not really, but you know what I mean,

984
00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:00.599
<v Speaker 2>like it would it would just be what it would

985
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:02.639
<v Speaker 2>be awesome. I Mean, you know, clearly you want to

986
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:03.880
<v Speaker 2>get you want to go as far as you can.

987
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:05.480
<v Speaker 2>But I've always just kind of said, man, if they

988
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:07.000
<v Speaker 2>could somehow find a way to get a good enough

989
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:09.199
<v Speaker 2>seed to put themselves in the second weekend and give

990
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:11.840
<v Speaker 2>us another week of postseason play. Man, that's gonna be

991
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:13.800
<v Speaker 2>great for this fan base. And look, they may still

992
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:15.760
<v Speaker 2>do that, but I'm thinking about you know, you being

993
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:20.920
<v Speaker 2>a sixth seed or a seventh seed, you know, and

994
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:23.000
<v Speaker 2>like maybe getting a tube. But to see the number

995
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:25.760
<v Speaker 2>one overall seed as the team you would have to

996
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:27.960
<v Speaker 2>get past, if you can even get past the second

997
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:30.400
<v Speaker 2>big second best Big East team, I mean, I know

998
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm sending dramatic here, but I don't think I don't

999
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:37.119
<v Speaker 2>think you can find anybody other than whoever signed off

1000
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:38.880
<v Speaker 2>on it in that room as far as the committee

1001
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:41.199
<v Speaker 2>that would have put Louisville in this situation, other than

1002
00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:45.119
<v Speaker 2>those that you know matter. All Right, two more hours left,

1003
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:46.400
<v Speaker 2>give you a lock right here at Coffee and Company.

1004
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:51.920
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