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Speaker 2: All right? Welcome Inn Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's
Speaker 2: here on a special Monday. I didn't think I would
Speaker 2: be feeling the way that I'm feeling on this day,
Speaker 2: even had Louisville like lost to Clemson on Friday, which
Speaker 2: we haven't talked since then. But even if we had
Speaker 2: lost Friday night, you know, heck, we might not not
Speaker 2: even even made the tournament, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: when it comes to the way the seating played out.
Speaker 2: But you know, this year, there was never really a
Speaker 2: moment for me where I felt genuinely disappointed and like
Speaker 2: really sad, you know what I mean, Like nobody likes losing.
Speaker 2: I didn't like losing the other night to Duke. That
Speaker 2: was tough when they were getting their tails kicked in
Speaker 2: earlier this season whenever they played Tennessee at home, and
Speaker 2: then of course when they got back from the Bahamas,
Speaker 2: they were adjusting to life without Case and Pryor and
Speaker 2: Cora Johnson, and they got dusted by Old Miss, lost
Speaker 2: to Duke, double figures, lost Toknseax. But I never felt
Speaker 2: any level of real just like, man, I'm so down
Speaker 2: on the dumps, and I think it's because of two things. One,
Speaker 2: you know, I like these guys so much, and when
Speaker 2: they do end up, you know, falling short, like, I
Speaker 2: don't think it's because they're not giving it, they're all.
Speaker 2: I think it's you know, I just think it's because
Speaker 2: of this of the circumstances. So, you know, I like
Speaker 2: these guys a lot. We all do, right, this is
Speaker 2: a very special group. So because of that and because
Speaker 2: of the other reason that I didn't mention it, and
Speaker 2: it may not even need to be said, but Louisville
Speaker 2: being where they were in the previous few seasons to
Speaker 2: have this now, I mean, even when there is a setback,
Speaker 2: I mean it still stings. But man, we know we're
Speaker 2: in such a better place than we used to be,
Speaker 2: and man, we got here pretty quick. So last night
Speaker 2: to see Louisville come in as at number eight, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, I don't know what it is, but
Speaker 2: there was something also awful about being one of the
Speaker 2: first teams mentioned, like I just I don't know. It
Speaker 2: felt like it was very premature, very underwhelming. I don't know.
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, the eight seed sucked. We all know it,
Speaker 2: but I felt probably the saddest I've been all season.
Speaker 2: And I think it's a reminder that when it comes
Speaker 2: to being you know that disappointed and bummed, part of
Speaker 2: that feeling that you have is due to an expectation. Right,
Speaker 2: So when Louisville, that's one one of the things that
Speaker 2: made this season such a fun ride because I knew
Speaker 2: this team could lose anybody, right, Like, it wasn't as
Speaker 2: if even when you would beat a bad team, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was still what you were supposed to be doing.
Speaker 2: But like, you know, this team, as much as they've
Speaker 2: looked really good and clearly I think we all agree
Speaker 2: they deserve a much better see than what they got.
Speaker 2: There's just there was not a whole lot of room
Speaker 2: for error. Whenever the injuries happened, and when you had
Speaker 2: the roller coaster where you feel like, Okay, it looks
Speaker 2: like we're gonna be great after the Bahamas, and then
Speaker 2: you realize cases out. So you know, I don't want
Speaker 2: to be such a Debbie downer because it's great to
Speaker 2: be back in the tournament, could go to Lexington like
Speaker 2: it's I mean, just to be a part of this
Speaker 2: is awesome. But I think because I was so disappointed
Speaker 2: and surprise, I'm sorry because I was so surprised to
Speaker 2: see Louisville as the eight. It hit me with maybe
Speaker 2: the most disappointed moment I've had throughout the season, which
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not what I was expecting. I was
Speaker 2: expecting to be phenomenal, and you know, seeing your name
Speaker 2: there at a five or six, maybe even a seven,
Speaker 2: and it would have been a different feeling than what
Speaker 2: we had last night. So look, there's nothing you can
Speaker 2: do about it. But I feel like we get one
Speaker 2: day to bitch about it. Isn't that day today. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's what we do. We talk brackets, and I think
Speaker 2: it's clear that not just around here, but nationally, Louisville
Speaker 2: is a is believed to be the team probably the
Speaker 2: most underseated other than of course West Virginia not getting in.
Speaker 2: So look, it is our Monday Marathon present about Carriage Forward,
Speaker 2: and we are simulcasting here in just a moment. So
Speaker 2: in just a moment, I'm going to turn my microphone
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Speaker 2: We're only gonna do this for the first segment, so
Speaker 2: Terry and I are going to discuss the obvious and
Speaker 2: we will resume our regular shows after that. So again,
Speaker 2: looking forward to talking with Terry, and I mean the
Speaker 2: different ways in which you can you can look at
Speaker 2: just how I mean today, and I'll just give you
Speaker 2: this stat and I don't want to get into too
Speaker 2: much right here, and then you know, go across the
Speaker 2: hall and then say the same thing over and over.
Speaker 2: So I'm trying not to, you know, throw out all
Speaker 2: the crazy stats that really put in perspective how wildly
Speaker 2: incorrectly Louisville was seated. But Kelly Dickey, of course, ul
Speaker 2: statistical guru. I think everybody knows who Kelly is he's
Speaker 2: a great follow real card game on Twitter if you
Speaker 2: guys want to follow him. But what's crazy is Lo
Speaker 2: was now top ten team. But those who missed it,
Speaker 2: the ap pole came out today, louis was number ten
Speaker 2: in the Apeopole after beating Clemson last week and of
Speaker 2: course competing with Duke. So Louisville being a top ten
Speaker 2: team playing in an NCAA tournament game as an eight
Speaker 2: seed is just it's insanity. And I know the ap
Speaker 2: pole doesn't necessarily it's not the end all be all,
Speaker 2: but still like that should show you just how wildly
Speaker 2: different you view this team compared to everybody else. All Right,
Speaker 2: we're gonna go, We're gonna go. I'm gonna make my
Speaker 2: way across the hall here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you saw the new rankings came out today. Louisville's
Speaker 3: number ten and obviously they have an eight seed. So
Speaker 3: it's like this whole thing is just tragic and stupid,
Speaker 3: but it's a reality. So I'm not one of those
Speaker 3: people's gonna ser and twist in the wind and whine
Speaker 3: and complain about that. It's just a matter of how
Speaker 3: dumb it is when you put the the metrics to
Speaker 3: it all these people want to decide about analytics and
Speaker 3: numbers and so forth. Well, Nick Coffee is joining me
Speaker 3: in here in the Whas studio along with mister Paul Miles.
Speaker 2: Hi, Nick Coffee, Hello, gentlemen, how are we doing?
Speaker 4: Hi?
Speaker 2: Have you racket Monday?
Speaker 3: Are we celebrating a simul cast on seven ninety?
Speaker 2: That's what we're doing.
Speaker 3: Very nice.
Speaker 2: It's a party, Miles.
Speaker 3: We haven't been on seven ninety for a while in
Speaker 3: a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome, welcome, Happy to have you guys. Dave Jennings,
Speaker 2: he's a staple of seven ninety. Dave Jennings, you're closer.
Speaker 3: To That's right. Dave had a lot of years on
Speaker 3: seven ninety. You're closer to the beverages in our building.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh yeah, studio is nice. Yeah, I like to
Speaker 2: like that. That's kind of my domain.
Speaker 3: All right, I am opening what that thought? Hang that banner,
Speaker 3: Hang that banner because the NC DOUBLEA this is a
Speaker 3: clown show, and so this whole thing of our seating
Speaker 3: we all get is ridiculous. Nobody can put out numbers
Speaker 3: that justify it. I mean, I saw the clown Bucco
Speaker 3: from North Carolina, whatever his name.
Speaker 2: Is, Bubba Bubba Cunningham.
Speaker 3: Bubba is his name the ad Did they give him
Speaker 3: a Christian name when he was born.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I would doubt that that's his legal name,
Speaker 2: but he is certainly a name that a lot of
Speaker 2: people are familiar with. In the last twenty four hours
Speaker 2: that probably had no clue who he was. I think
Speaker 2: that was a selection committee.
Speaker 4: Bar Rabbis actually was.
Speaker 2: The name.
Speaker 3: This whole thing is, you know, silly, but we are here.
Speaker 3: We just have to deal with the reality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I as I started my show, I mentioned
Speaker 2: how for me this year was such a fun ride expectations.
Speaker 2: Who really knew what to expect, and then when they
Speaker 2: started playing well, even when they had a setback, you
Speaker 2: felt like, Okay, we're still in a much better position
Speaker 2: than we've been in a long time. You played some
Speaker 2: really good teams that beat you. So there was never
Speaker 2: really like a feeling of disappointment as a fan because
Speaker 2: even when they lost, I feel like they're still trying hard.
Speaker 2: I didn't feel any different about Pat Kelsey and what
Speaker 2: these guys could eventually do once they played some, once
Speaker 2: they got used to the new rotation with the injuries
Speaker 2: and whatnot. But yesterday's seeing them come in at number
Speaker 2: eight was as disappointed as I've been all year as
Speaker 2: a level basketball fan, and I think just because you
Speaker 2: feel for these guys and you could tell just about
Speaker 2: the body language when they showed them uh the when
Speaker 2: they unveiled they're going to be playing against Creighton in
Speaker 2: the eight nine game.
Speaker 3: Clayton is not seated correctly.
Speaker 2: So Louisville will have to get past the second placed
Speaker 2: Big East team, a Big East team that played in
Speaker 2: their conference championship game against Sint John's the other night, competitively,
Speaker 2: and then if they can get past them easier said
Speaker 2: than done, then they get to play the number one
Speaker 2: overall seed to go to the second weekend. I just
Speaker 2: don't think anybody would objectively put Louisville in that position
Speaker 2: other than the committee, I think anybody else would have said,
Speaker 2: at least they're a six, so you do get to
Speaker 2: play in Lexington. There's a there's there's benefit there, but man,
Speaker 2: you've got you've got a tough first game is really tough.
Speaker 2: As you mentioned, Creighton's a really really good team.
Speaker 4: And it's not just the seating guys, it's it happened
Speaker 4: two seconds into the broadcast. Yeah, people are pouring their
Speaker 4: beers and getting their sandwiches and go. Did they just
Speaker 4: say Louisville?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was not that. That was not
Speaker 2: something I would have expected to hit me like it did.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it wasn't just the seed, it was how
Speaker 2: early it was.
Speaker 3: You're right, Dave, here's the way this feels to me,
Speaker 3: though we've all gone through this over the last month,
Speaker 3: month and a half. You're going down a road you
Speaker 3: normally travel and all of a sudden you hit an
Speaker 3: unbelievable poddle. But then it's over. You're worried that your
Speaker 3: car's not right anymore, the alignments out, but it's over.
Speaker 3: So all you can do is just take the lump
Speaker 3: and then work with the fact that you got to
Speaker 3: get ready for this Creighton game and not even sweat
Speaker 3: the details that Auburn is lurking behind there. Auburn is
Speaker 3: definitely going to advance, So you worry about that Friday
Speaker 3: if you can.
Speaker 2: And I think Pat Kelcey, you know a lot of
Speaker 2: coaches do the worry about the next game. We don't
Speaker 2: think about anything else outside of that. It's the most
Speaker 2: important game in the history of the program because it's
Speaker 2: the next one, and I'm sure a lot of coaches
Speaker 2: would like to have that mindset within their culture. However,
Speaker 2: I think Pat Kelsey has shown this year with this group,
Speaker 2: they've never been too high too low, even when you
Speaker 2: think that maybe the wheels may start to fall off.
Speaker 2: And really that only happened earlier this year when they
Speaker 2: were playing really good teams, and obviously they were they
Speaker 2: were dealing with some injuries. But I feel like despite
Speaker 2: him making it pretty clear he was a little upset
Speaker 2: by the seating. I mean, I don't think anybody would
Speaker 2: be surprised to hear that he did not like where
Speaker 2: his team ended up. But I feel like he's the
Speaker 2: kind of guy that could get these guys focused, get
Speaker 2: them regrouped. I mean, they throughout the entire year, I
Speaker 2: think have done a really good job of just worrying
Speaker 2: about who's up. You know, I don't think they're even
Speaker 2: thinking about any kind of a seed, a number. They're
Speaker 2: just knowing, Hey, we got to get ready for Creighton.
Speaker 2: They're a really good ball team. Let's figure out how
Speaker 2: we can get to win.
Speaker 4: Not just that, guys, you have Clemson as a five,
Speaker 4: so Louisville beats Clemson twice. Clemson finishes behind Louisville in
Speaker 4: the standings because they beat Duke full strength one given night.
Speaker 4: Clemson's a five and Louisville's an eight.
Speaker 2: That's the biggest That's the biggest issue that I have
Speaker 2: with the whole thing is that there's no way the
Speaker 2: committee would be able to tell us how they tell
Speaker 2: us how they assess the acc I mean, what Carolina
Speaker 2: clearly got benefit for to get in. Louisville got no
Speaker 2: credit for Clemson. You know again, if you just want
Speaker 2: to tell me, well, louisll didn't have many opportunities to
Speaker 2: play great teams in conference play, therefore they just don't
Speaker 2: have a whole lot of quadwin wins. I mean, that's true. However,
Speaker 2: the rest of the league that did get in seem
Speaker 2: to be viewed a little bit differently than Louisville.
Speaker 3: Miles, you taking aback by any of this stuff that
Speaker 3: you've been talking about.
Speaker 5: Now, But a question for who's gonna who's gonna draw
Speaker 5: the biggest fan base to Lexington, Louisville, or Tennessee. I'm
Speaker 5: thinking there's gonna be a lot of orange in that.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking there's gonna be a lot of blue in there,
Speaker 3: Kentucky fans who they knew that their team wouldn't be there,
Speaker 3: But a lot of people can't travel.
Speaker 4: It's Lexiville guys.
Speaker 2: Lexville Knoxville is not too far away, and there are
Speaker 2: Tennessee is a huge fan base. I mean, they are massive,
Speaker 2: and them being good in any sport will remind you
Speaker 2: how many fans they have out there. But I wonder
Speaker 2: if maybe some of them are thinking, Okay, we are
Speaker 2: we're a top two seed. Maybe maybe we'll we'll wait
Speaker 2: to go, We'll save our money to travel to the
Speaker 2: second weekend because we think so we're so confident that
Speaker 2: that's gonna happen. But I'm sure there's many Tennessee fans
Speaker 2: that don't even live that far from Lexington.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is an easy get for them, and Kentucky
Speaker 3: and Milwaukee. That's not a problem for a lot of
Speaker 3: Kentucky fans. They're gonna be fine.
Speaker 2: They're all over the planet, by the way, Katwaukee Tucky fans.
Speaker 3: Right, and then Indianapolis would be their their second stop,
Speaker 3: and then that's completely due.
Speaker 2: I really don't think Kentucky fans can take much issue
Speaker 2: with how they ended up. I think the three seed
Speaker 2: may be a little surprising to some because of the
Speaker 2: amount of losses they had, but they had so many
Speaker 2: really really valuable wins that really, I mean, that's what's
Speaker 2: supposed to matter more than anything. And as far as
Speaker 2: who they end up with, I mean, Tennessee's a team
Speaker 2: they could meet in the second weekend, they've already beat
Speaker 2: him twice. Houston, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say any of
Speaker 2: these one seeds are are viewed as, you know, somebody
Speaker 2: that you can easily get past. However, of all the options,
Speaker 2: I think Houston may maybe the one I would choose. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: Kentucky definitely rewarded on selection Sunday, I think, and again
Speaker 2: it checks out they had a really good resume, more
Speaker 2: losses than you typically see for a team seeded that high,
Speaker 2: but man, they had a lot of really valuable wins.
Speaker 3: And if they could make it through.
Speaker 5: Milwaukee, they go to Indianapolis. Correct, Yeah, I think yeah,
Speaker 5: which would bode well for them in the fan base.
Speaker 3: Miles, you ran a clip from Lamont Butler in the
Speaker 3: top of the hour, and m did you get on
Speaker 3: the floor with him? And actually, so let's try it,
Speaker 3: just try me. Did you check him and make sure
Speaker 3: his shoulder's okay, his legs are all right as lungs
Speaker 3: as I did not popping.
Speaker 2: Maybe you did?
Speaker 3: You know they're all they see, Paul Miles. I'm not
Speaker 3: taking this.
Speaker 2: Guy, did. I mean, there's no scenario. It's a coincidence
Speaker 2: that we could get Patino versus Caliperi in the second round, right,
Speaker 2: I mean that is I mean too, I mean that
Speaker 2: would be It'd be phenomenal. Uh, I love it. They
Speaker 2: have already texted each other about it. I can guarantee,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, and I would I mean, I would
Speaker 2: be very A lot of people around here would be
Speaker 2: interested just just to be around kind of the lead
Speaker 2: up to that potential game. There only be a couple
Speaker 2: of days between because it'd be a second round matchup.
Speaker 2: But man, that would be quite the storyline for the
Speaker 2: round of thirty two.
Speaker 3: Isn't that Rhode Island? Yeah, Marks has got to get
Speaker 3: past Kansas.
Speaker 2: True, very true.
Speaker 3: But that's not a full strength Kansas, right.
Speaker 2: Well, Kansas, they've just had a I mean, they're healthy
Speaker 2: as far as I know, as far as their key contributors,
Speaker 2: but they just they're the latest example of they went
Speaker 2: out and they bought a lot of really good players.
Speaker 2: They had a lot of talent. Nobody would question their
Speaker 2: talent level. They've a great coach obviously in Bill self.
Speaker 2: It just isn't fitting together. And I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's more so because style of play or maybe personalities,
Speaker 2: but they've they've had more losses this year in quite
Speaker 2: some time in league play. But they're also, you know,
Speaker 2: some one of those teams that if they end up
Speaker 2: going on a run, maybe getting to the sweet sixteen.
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't say I'd be surprised.
Speaker 5: I love the fact that Louisville's playing at noon twelve
Speaker 5: to fifteen.
Speaker 2: The only person I've heard say that, oh I love you.
Speaker 5: Lunchtime at the office. You know, I'll put the work
Speaker 5: aside and just turn on the TV, watch watch the cards.
Speaker 3: Somebody gets to be the kickoff, you know, the christening
Speaker 3: of the tournament, and this year it's louisviland and crazy.
Speaker 2: The last time Louisville made the tournament, same thing. They
Speaker 2: played the very first game against the Minnesota Richard Patino
Speaker 2: team and lost. And losing in the tournament and having
Speaker 2: your season come to an end is devastating in any way.
Speaker 2: It happens, but man to be the first team there
Speaker 2: is there that was a brutal pain I didn't want
Speaker 2: to experience going on.
Speaker 4: Have you guys heard of our new metric that we
Speaker 4: use this year. This is the WAB. The WAB the
Speaker 4: wins above bubble where Carolina finished first and they're crediting
Speaker 4: that with their getting in. It measures how many more
Speaker 4: wins a team has compared to what an average bubble
Speaker 4: team would be expected to have against the same schedule.
Speaker 4: So it's a bunch of pe people sitting around going, Yeah,
Speaker 4: Indiana wouldn't have had it that many wins with Carolina schedule. Oh,
Speaker 4: West Virginia wouldn't have had that many wins with the
Speaker 4: Carolina schedule.
Speaker 2: But I thought the ACC was terrible. Yeah, the ACC.
Speaker 2: I feel like the Louisville seating is the one thing
Speaker 2: that makes you feel as if because it really were
Speaker 2: overre the bubble teams had of Carolina that had a
Speaker 2: chance to get in when you got to selection Sunday.
Speaker 2: But to set everybody the way you did, with you
Speaker 2: do clearly being a number one, that was easy to do.
Speaker 2: Clemson getting the five and Carolina getting in at all,
Speaker 2: I mean, I would have expected that to mean Louisville
Speaker 2: has a six seed at worst.
Speaker 3: Okay, we haven't said these two words yet. Rain Smith,
Speaker 3: is that for sure? Is he playing?
Speaker 2: I mean, I hope. So he did get out there.
Speaker 2: He got out there on Saturday and was going through
Speaker 2: warm ups. I don't think the intention was to play,
Speaker 2: but it was to kind of just get into that
Speaker 2: routine to kind of see how close he was.
Speaker 3: That wasn't they were messing with Duke's mind.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, but you know, you could tell
Speaker 2: there's an emphasis from college coaches around the country to
Speaker 2: let people know that an injured player who they're monitoring
Speaker 2: is good to go, because they don't want to be
Speaker 2: they don't want to be punished by like Cooper Flagg.
Speaker 2: I think he'll play, but Duke would stand no benefit
Speaker 2: to put it out there if he's not going to.
Speaker 2: So Rain will now have a complete two week break
Speaker 2: from from, you know, playing in a game since the
Speaker 2: ankle injury happened. So I think it comes down to
Speaker 2: canny monitor pain that kind of stuff, or well, can
Speaker 2: he handle pain? I should say, But I just know
Speaker 2: when they got to Charlotte he'd not been able to
Speaker 2: do much yet, so I would imagine he'd probably need
Speaker 2: a pretty quick recovery in the last week or so.
Speaker 2: But he's definitely a weapon that you love to have
Speaker 2: out there because he can flip a game in an instant,
Speaker 2: but also the opponent has to account for him at
Speaker 2: all times. Spacing is so much better and he is.
Speaker 2: This is an underrated, underrated strength of his that I
Speaker 2: think is so valuable. He knows what he does as
Speaker 2: far as commanding attention, and he's always moving, so it
Speaker 2: just creates so much more space for everybody else. You
Speaker 2: can tell he's aware of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is. He is the force that forces the
Speaker 3: other team to react to him all the time, which
Speaker 3: gives you your openings. Without him, we haven't had that
Speaker 3: same sort of like nuisance factor that the other team
Speaker 3: has to panic a little bit.
Speaker 2: There's some guys on this team that I think I
Speaker 2: would say maybe not half, but close to it as
Speaker 2: far as their point production comes from bright place right
Speaker 2: time because of how they're guarding ranked Smith or because
Speaker 2: they've got you know, there there are two guys running
Speaker 2: at him to try to contest his shot that leads
Speaker 2: to a clean up bucket. Budge vonn Hadley or James Scott.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Rain's the guy that I knew is valuable.
Speaker 2: But seeing this team offensively without him, I mean you
Speaker 2: can just tell it's they're.
Speaker 3: A little bit more easier to defend. Chucky and Terrence
Speaker 3: have been brilliant. Thank God for them.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness to Javaon is in there busting on
Speaker 2: D two. It's so great against Clemson and then with
Speaker 2: Terrence Edwards. I mean, I don't know where it will
Speaker 2: be remembered down the line, but acc championship game begins
Speaker 2: to Duke, a kid who transferred in from James Madison
Speaker 2: puts up thirty on Duke. I mean it was I
Speaker 2: felt like that was a really I mean hate that
Speaker 2: it came in a loss, But these guys, man, they
Speaker 2: compete first half. I wish it could have ended then
Speaker 2: because they had the lead, but they're not. I thought
Speaker 2: that game, even without Cooper flag, in that situation you're
Speaker 2: playing Duke in Charlotte, I thought that that was really
Speaker 2: a prove it moment for so that we belong and
Speaker 2: this is who we are, and yet you didn't get
Speaker 2: anything that further.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that that made no sense that a halftime
Speaker 3: of that Duke came. He thought, all right, these guys
Speaker 3: can't compete with anybody.
Speaker 2: I mean, if Chucky doesn't make the game winner against
Speaker 2: Clemson and you lose that game or not Clemson, I'm
Speaker 2: sorry smu of Stanford. I'm sorry Stanford. I don't even
Speaker 2: whereould they have been like they beat Clemson. They got
Speaker 2: their most valuable win of the season, a neutral sight
Speaker 2: win against Clemson, and they thought that Clemson was still
Speaker 2: a five seat and then two days later you get
Speaker 2: seated with an eight.
Speaker 3: We were going to win an overtime, by the way, Yes, Stanford,
Speaker 3: I felt I think got a little flop back. I
Speaker 3: thought that Louisville had all the mo at that time. Nonetheless,
Speaker 3: you know, we had a moment against e Ku way
Speaker 3: back in the season and then all of a sudden, Noah,
Speaker 3: I had to pull out our bacon and win right there.
Speaker 3: That changed the chemistry of the season significantly. And the
Speaker 3: uprise has been just phenomenal, the uptick through this whole thing.
Speaker 3: So nothing pointed to this law loss of momentum. And
Speaker 3: I just you're right. I think Kelsey's good about getting
Speaker 3: in their ears is like water over the dam.
Speaker 2: He's the kind of leader that can navigate you through
Speaker 2: this to where these guys they'll be playing with something
Speaker 2: to prove. But also you know they're not gonna feel
Speaker 2: sorry for themselves. They're not gonna look ahead, They're gonna
Speaker 2: be ready to go. I think yeah, and Creighton is
Speaker 2: a formidable opponent. We know that Kentucky can handle Troy.
Speaker 2: Kentucky fans, truthfully, I think are already eyebowling a Tennessee
Speaker 2: match and fair fair enough to say Tennessee spits the
Speaker 2: bit in big games, and they certainly did this year
Speaker 2: against Kentucky. I mean, Kentucky didn't have a full team
Speaker 2: in either of those games and one and really didn't
Speaker 2: need to play that well to do it. But I've
Speaker 2: watched Tennessee play other times and they look really, really good.
Speaker 2: But Mark Pope, he's he's got something for the balls
Speaker 2: so far this year. But I think the potential Illinois
Speaker 2: Kentucky matchup in the second round, I just think that
Speaker 2: should be that could be a really that should be
Speaker 2: a really competitive game. I think Kentucky, if at full strength,
Speaker 2: is clearly a better team, and they probably are as is.
Speaker 2: But Illinois, Brad Underwood a tough team. He's done pretty
Speaker 2: well in the tournament, so I you know, both teams
Speaker 2: got to get there. I'm sure there's gonna be some upsets,
Speaker 2: but that three six matchup in Milwaukee could be one
Speaker 2: of the better ones of the Round of thirty two.
Speaker 2: If that's what we end up.
Speaker 3: Getting, Kentucky doesn't need to worry about Texas or Xavier
Speaker 3: emerging over Illinois.
Speaker 2: That's I mean, I would, I would. I have a
Speaker 2: lot of respect. I think Illinois was one of the
Speaker 2: better teams in the Big Ten this year, even though
Speaker 2: it wasn't great. Texas is the team I can't figure out,
Speaker 2: because they did get really good wins in conference play
Speaker 2: at the end that put them in the tournament, but
Speaker 2: everything else prior to that would show you that they're
Speaker 2: pretty average. Xavier, they were another bubble team. I haven't
Speaker 2: seen a whole lot of them this year, but Sean Miller,
Speaker 2: he's made some deep tournament runs before. So yeah, those
Speaker 2: are the kind of games that you know, I just
Speaker 2: assume that it's gonna be Illinois been sure enough. They're
Speaker 2: gonna have a tough game to get past, a tough
Speaker 2: time getting past their first pponent too.
Speaker 3: For everybody did Florida show everyone yesterday that they are
Speaker 3: the team to be.
Speaker 2: I think Florida in the last couple of weeks has
Speaker 2: looked like the best team in the country, and all
Speaker 2: they did was more so show that this past week
Speaker 2: can winning the SEC tournament, which would some would say
Speaker 2: might actually be more more to challenging than winning this tournament.
Speaker 4: I would agree. They're relentless and they're deep. They just
Speaker 4: keep coming at you. You think you're making a play,
Speaker 4: and it's like twelve again.
Speaker 2: Yeah. When they when they beat Bama by double digits
Speaker 2: in Tuscaloosa a couple weeks ago, that's when I thought, Okay,
Speaker 2: a lot of talk about Bama. Auburn Duke of course
Speaker 2: is great, but man, this Florida team, they're they're elite.
Speaker 3: Okay, what about fools Gold. This happens every year. Here
Speaker 3: we are on Monday, and everybody looks at their brackets
Speaker 3: and you think, oh, there's the Tom Is Oh Hawaii Dave.
Speaker 3: He's been there for one hundred years. Boy, he's not
Speaker 3: gonna lose. And then Michigan State, while you know, oftentimes
Speaker 3: just walks away confusing people.
Speaker 4: He's good in the tournament though, is is pick who
Speaker 4: are some of.
Speaker 3: The fools gold teams that people need to reconsider instead
Speaker 3: of because a lot of people fill out brackets and
Speaker 3: then they get into some areas and go, well, I like, uh,
Speaker 3: I know who that is and fill it down.
Speaker 2: I would say for me, and this is a three seat,
Speaker 2: so it's still a seat that's expected to go pretty far.
Speaker 2: But Texas Tech they really really fell apart towards the
Speaker 2: end of the season. Their three seed, their first round
Speaker 2: matchups against Lips. I'm not sure if they're going to
Speaker 2: get much of a challenge there, but for I think
Speaker 2: they're about as vulnerable as any three seed in that
Speaker 2: potential second round because it's likely going to be Old
Speaker 2: Miss in Iowa State. They do a really good job
Speaker 2: of manipulating the quad system in a different way where
Speaker 2: if you play a lot of if you schedule a
Speaker 2: lot of teams that are in the three hundreds, that'll
Speaker 2: hurt you even because you can't beat them by enough
Speaker 2: for it to do anything but hurt you. Wake Forest
Speaker 2: is an example of that. Wake Forest literally should have
Speaker 2: been should have been a tournament profile all year, but
Speaker 2: they scheduled so awful in the non conference and didn't
Speaker 2: win those games by enough Iowa State. They schedule those
Speaker 2: teams and they strategically play their starters the whole game,
Speaker 2: beat them by forty and fifty, and it actually boosts
Speaker 2: them up. So I think part of the seeding for
Speaker 2: Iowa State is maybe not as much as how good
Speaker 2: they are. They just they cooked the books a little bit.
Speaker 2: They did some things to really improve their numbers, and
Speaker 2: really they've lost. I think it was three of their
Speaker 2: last four to close out the season. So of the
Speaker 2: top three seeds, I would say they're the most vulnerable.
Speaker 2: But I really think Terry all the ones and twos,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's a kind of I think
Speaker 2: they've got some clear separation between the pack.
Speaker 3: No doubt. What about the other Patino, Richard New Mexico.
Speaker 3: You know, he seems like he's sitting in a spot
Speaker 3: where if they can handle Michigan State, well that's good,
Speaker 3: get interesting.
Speaker 2: No doubt. I think Richard Patino, when he's done a
Speaker 2: phenomenal job this year with this group. If they lost
Speaker 2: their best player to Texas Tech, who ended up being
Speaker 2: one of the best teams in the Big Twelve, to
Speaker 2: the Portal, he went out added some new players big
Speaker 2: no real big names, but yet he won the Mountain
Speaker 2: West once again Coach of the Year. So Richard's a
Speaker 2: really good coach. Minnesota firing their coach last week and
Speaker 2: everybody reminding themselves, oh yeah, nobody's ever woned Minnesota other
Speaker 2: than coach Haskins from WKU, who did win, but he
Speaker 2: got caught cheating when he was doing it. So Richard's
Speaker 2: a good coach. That would be quite the story if
Speaker 2: he's able to make his first deep run into the tournament. Obviously,
Speaker 2: his dad's now being talked about more so than I
Speaker 2: feel like he has in a long long time. He's
Speaker 2: got all the shine with his run at Saint John's,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I don't know how deep they can go.
Speaker 2: But New Mexico's a team I wouldn't want to play.
Speaker 3: All right, we're not revealing our winners quite yet. Well,
Speaker 3: then we'll talk later on this afternoon. It's good, but
Speaker 3: my winner is an SEC team. Say here, we'll leave
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Speaker 2: It does feel good to be dancing once again. But
Speaker 2: if there's one day to complain and it really won't
Speaker 2: do any good. But yeah, I don't think I've There's
Speaker 2: no way I was as disappoint I mean, honestly, last
Speaker 2: night was as disappointed as I've been as a level
Speaker 2: basketball fan since pack Kelsey got the job. Seriously, I
Speaker 2: mean I didn't expect Louville to be in the tournament
Speaker 2: in year one. I mean I thought they could. I
Speaker 2: knew We're now in a world where you can get
Speaker 2: there quicker, you can rebuild it quicker, because obviously you
Speaker 2: can just go get a new team, right, But to
Speaker 2: have this team exceed expectations put themselves in a spot
Speaker 2: to where they played in the ACC Championship game eighteen
Speaker 2: and two in your league, even if the legue isn't great.
Speaker 2: I mean the disappointment that hit me yesterday when I
Speaker 2: saw them come in at number eight, I mean again,
Speaker 2: it was like it was a feeling that I really
Speaker 2: haven't hadn't had in a long time. I mean again,
Speaker 2: when Louisvill lost earlier this year to teams, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's that sucks. Nobody likes losing. But again I think
Speaker 2: part of that feeling of real disappointment and sadness, there's
Speaker 2: there's a level of expectation that has a role in
Speaker 2: you feeling that way, right Like, if you don't have
Speaker 2: any real belief or expectation that you're gonna get you know,
Speaker 2: you're gonna go win the lottery, or you're really bummed
Speaker 2: when your ticket's not a winner. I mean, yeah, you
Speaker 2: wish you won, but you didn't feel like you had
Speaker 2: no real expectation of it happening. It wasn't realistic in
Speaker 2: your mind. So it's been a long time since I've
Speaker 2: been disappointed in love of basketball, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: because I mean the whole Kenny payn era, I mean
Speaker 2: we were disappointed from the beginning and never it never
Speaker 2: got it never got better, and there it was never
Speaker 2: something that many realistic people believed was going to be
Speaker 2: anywhere good enough for that thing to be sustained. So
Speaker 2: to have the moment, you know, selection Sunday, knowing you're
Speaker 2: going to be a part of it, I mean, that's
Speaker 2: what this all builds up for, right Like, quite literally
Speaker 2: everything about the roller coaster that is your college basketball
Speaker 2: regular season is built up to see what you get
Speaker 2: when you get to selection Sunday, and of course, you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes you don't even know if you're going to be in.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you know you're in. Sometimes you know you have
Speaker 2: a great seed. Louisville I feel like could have been
Speaker 2: seated in a lot of different ways. But eight was
Speaker 2: was really not at all what I expected after seeing
Speaker 2: what they did in Charlotte and looking at how they
Speaker 2: seeded the rest of the ACC. So I mean, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm still happy. I'm going to embrace that we get
Speaker 2: to go to Lexington. There's a lot of you know,
Speaker 2: there's one positive, and that is the fact that you're close.
Speaker 2: I don't like the opponent and those saying, well, hey
Speaker 2: Auburn's lost three or four, Okay, yeah, I don't want
Speaker 2: to play Auburn. I mean, you might have to, and
Speaker 2: if so, we'll see what happens. But like, I just
Speaker 2: can't go. I can't. I mean, I can't get there
Speaker 2: with some people that are trying to act like this
Speaker 2: isn't some really really really tough thing that was put
Speaker 2: in front of this team. Again, just think about this.
Speaker 2: Louisville has to get past the second place biggiest team,
Speaker 2: a team who play in the bigiest championship just two
Speaker 2: days before selection Sunday, or just two days ago today.
Speaker 2: They got to just get past them to get to
Speaker 2: play the number one overall seed in Auburn, just to
Speaker 2: then get to the sweet sixteen the second weekend. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't think you could have been nobody outside of
Speaker 2: the people who made this decision, the committee, nobody would
Speaker 2: have objectively put Louisville in that spot. Makes no sense.
Speaker 2: I mean the ap pole. I understand the ap pole
Speaker 2: does not matter, and we talk about that quite a bit,
Speaker 2: but you know what the ap pole does give you.
Speaker 2: It gives you perception. Those who vote on the apeopole.
Speaker 2: The writers, those who have a vote, say what you
Speaker 2: want about them. They're they're objective. They're not fanboys. They're
Speaker 2: people who are you know, Capital Jay's and they may
Speaker 2: you know, they may be great writers, back you know, good,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but they're objective, like when you and
Speaker 2: there's a lot of them, it's not just one or two.
Speaker 2: So to have them currently vote Louisville as a team
Speaker 2: they believe as a top ten caliber team and then
Speaker 2: see them get an eight seed is insane. So again
Speaker 2: I'm not saying we should use the AP but it
Speaker 2: just gives you another perspective as to how off the
Speaker 2: committee was. The committee is the only it's the only
Speaker 2: again it's the only one that matters, but it's also
Speaker 2: the only where, the only place you'll find anybody that
Speaker 2: viewed Louisville in that way to give them an eight seed.
Speaker 2: I mean, Louisville right now becomes the first. This is
Speaker 2: just insane. And again I'm not just to clarify we
Speaker 2: shouldn't base it off the AP pole, but I'm just
Speaker 2: telling you the committee decided to view Louisville entirely different
Speaker 2: than just about everybody, I think everybody. And they didn't
Speaker 2: just view them differently, they viewed them insanely differently. But
Speaker 2: seeds one in the updated top ten, the eight of
Speaker 2: the top ten are ones and two seeds, and the
Speaker 2: ninth seed or the ninth ranked team is a three seed.
Speaker 2: Louisville is the tenth rank team in the eight people
Speaker 2: they're an eight seed. So again they clearly, you know,
Speaker 2: it's just Louisville that they clearly view that much differently.
Speaker 2: And again the ones and twos were pretty clear. So
Speaker 2: maybe that's not the best example, but again, it's just
Speaker 2: I mean, you just can't. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: I mean, when you when you look at Duke getting
Speaker 2: a number one overall seed, that was gonna happen regardless,
Speaker 2: So maybe I should stop referencing that. But what it
Speaker 2: comes down to is Clemson getting a five. Make it
Speaker 2: just makes no sense at all. If Louisville is an eight.
Speaker 2: Carolina getting in the tournament makes no sense at all.
Speaker 2: If Louisville is an eight, I mean, it just doesn't.
Speaker 2: And look, if you were gonna tell me that Louisville
Speaker 2: would be an eight seed, I still would have been
Speaker 2: stunned in any way, but I would I thought that
Speaker 2: would have meant that North Carolina's not sniff in the
Speaker 2: tournament and that Clemson's a seven. And I still would
Speaker 2: have thought that was ridiculous. But the league was down right.
Speaker 2: And that's why when I would talk about it throughout
Speaker 2: the season, it wasn't like I was making a It
Speaker 2: wasn't like I was being critical. It wasn't like I
Speaker 2: was really even trying to be negative. I was just
Speaker 2: you know, and trust me, this isn't and I told
Speaker 2: you so a moment because again, if I could say
Speaker 2: that one, I would. But this doesn't mean I was right.
Speaker 2: It means the committee is inconsistent and they goofed on
Speaker 2: this because Louisville going into last night. I looked it
Speaker 2: up yesterday on I think it was bracketologist dot com,
Speaker 2: as is the website that has the tool where you
Speaker 2: can compare everybody's resume, so based off of bracket Matrix
Speaker 2: and wherever. But I mean, Louisville was talked about as
Speaker 2: like a five or six, like seven seemed like the
Speaker 2: absolute worst, and it seemed unlikely based off everything else.
Speaker 2: So I went and looked at Louisville's resume compared to
Speaker 2: all the other teams that were believed to be competing
Speaker 2: for that five to six maybe seven line, and of
Speaker 2: all those teams, Louisville clearly had one glaring issue. They
Speaker 2: didn't I mean, they didn't have many good wins. In fact,
Speaker 2: you know, this doesn't say anything about Louisville, it's just
Speaker 2: the way it played out Louisville. I think. Actually I
Speaker 2: thought the game against Duke, even without Cooper flag in Charlotte,
Speaker 2: by the way, playing Duke there, I felt like that
Speaker 2: was like I kind of felt like, no matter what
Speaker 2: happens the rest of the way. Even though they lost,
Speaker 2: surely anybody who watched that knows Louisville proved that they're
Speaker 2: a good team. They may not be elite, they may
Speaker 2: not be a top four seed, but man, I thought
Speaker 2: that showed that they, you know, they belonged, Like if
Speaker 2: you didn't have like if you felt like the numbers
Speaker 2: could could make you go one way or the other,
Speaker 2: which they could, by the way, because again there's two
Speaker 2: different ways you can look at Louisville. You can say, look,
Speaker 2: great resid or a great season as far as wins
Speaker 2: and losses, but you didn't beat anybody good, you don't
Speaker 2: have enough good wins. Or you can say, look louisll
Speaker 2: lost to only good teams. There's only one team that
Speaker 2: they played that's not going to be the only one
Speaker 2: team that beat them, that's not going to be in
Speaker 2: the tournament. And they went eighteen and two in their league.
Speaker 2: They beat Clemson twice. So again, it just it was
Speaker 2: gonna come down to how you you know, which way
Speaker 2: you wanted to look at it. And I felt like
Speaker 2: if you were somebody on the fence, or maybe more
Speaker 2: so leaning towards not giving them the benefit of the
Speaker 2: doubt and just assuming that you know, they're simply a
Speaker 2: product of a down league. I thought the Duke game
Speaker 2: showed you that, like maybe you know, again it's a
Speaker 2: loss still, but I felt like that seeing them compete
Speaker 2: in that way. And again, I know Cooper Flagg didn't play,
Speaker 2: but that doesn't matter. Duke without Cooper flag could still
Speaker 2: win the whole thing. I don't think they will, and
Speaker 2: I think he will come back, but like, Duke's really
Speaker 2: really talented even without him, and they're good, So you know,
Speaker 2: I just don't know how they The committee was just
Speaker 2: so different than not just like Louisville fans who want
Speaker 2: their team to get the best seat possible, but they
Speaker 2: the committee viewed a little different than everybody. I mean,
Speaker 2: it just doesn't it doesn't make any sense at all.
Speaker 2: So again, if your best win is Clemson twice and
Speaker 2: your second best win is the last team they put in,
Speaker 2: which is Carolina, that is absolutely not a good place
Speaker 2: to be. And that worried me deep down. I kept thinking,
Speaker 2: you know, it's all gonna come down to how they
Speaker 2: decide to view this team, and I said it a lot,
Speaker 2: so if it would have just been that, I mean,
Speaker 2: I still would have been upset. I wouldn't agreed with it,
Speaker 2: but it would have at least, you know, it would
Speaker 2: have been a little more fair. But to see Clemson
Speaker 2: get the vive in Carolina get in, so like what
Speaker 2: Carolina got in for? Like what really helped Carolina become
Speaker 2: that last team in of course, other than their athletic
Speaker 2: director being the chairman of the committee, which we got
Speaker 2: to talk about that later. That's that's a bigger The
Speaker 2: arrogance of the nc douablea as an entity to not
Speaker 2: to just assume people won't raise questions about the conflict
Speaker 2: of interest there is insane. It's really another reminder that
Speaker 2: what's what purpose does the NSABA serve? None? None? But again,
Speaker 2: when it comes down to Carolina, what helped Carolina get
Speaker 2: in Louis Will got no credit for. And I'm not
Speaker 2: one for conspiracies, I really am not, because I just
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes they're fun to talk about on the show,
Speaker 2: but I don't know what it is. But I I
Speaker 2: just it's not even really giving people a benefit of nout.
Speaker 2: But I just I don't fall in this world of like,
Speaker 2: you know that people who are in powerful positions that
Speaker 2: have you know, like people on the committee. I shouldn't
Speaker 2: assume that they would make some crazy mistake because you know,
Speaker 2: they're successful people. They ended up on the selection committee.
Speaker 2: They work for universities and power conferences. But I think
Speaker 2: you could make the case that they might have actually
Speaker 2: just switched teams accidentally and not realized it. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have seen the comparisons,
Speaker 2: if you base, if you go, if you go look
Speaker 2: at and I'll pull out all reference the numbers here,
Speaker 2: if you go look at the profiles for these two teams,
Speaker 2: and you look at where they where they seated each
Speaker 2: of them. Again, in all seriousness, I don't believe that
Speaker 2: they that this could happen and them not notice it.
Speaker 2: But maybe I shouldn't just assume that they're gonna not
Speaker 2: have a goof like this because Louisville and Memphis, I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure Louisville should be the five in Memphis should
Speaker 2: be the eight, because again that actually I mean that
Speaker 2: actually breaks. So yeah, as of March seventeenth, as of yeah,
Speaker 2: that's today, there's between Louisville and Memphis. Across all the
Speaker 2: different ranking systems, Louisville is twenty four in the net. Again,
Speaker 2: the net is the formula that the NCAA created, that's
Speaker 2: the one they're supposed to value more than anything. Louisville
Speaker 2: is twenty fourth in the net and they're an eight seed,
Speaker 2: Memphis forty ninth in the net. In their five seed
Speaker 2: Louisville and the Ken Palm twenty three, Memphis thirty four
Speaker 2: bart Torvik, which is the new formula that is now calculated,
Speaker 2: Louisville's nineteenth Memphis is forty espn BPI, Louisvill's twenty Memphis
Speaker 2: is forty two. So think about this, their new formula,
Speaker 2: they're using bart Torvick which was added, and their own
Speaker 2: insanely high on Louisville, and they give him an eight.
Speaker 2: Bubba Cunningham, obviously, everybody wants to hear what he had
Speaker 2: to say about Carolina getting in. How he has no involvement, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 2: But he was asked about Louisville and what he said
Speaker 2: is that they used the Torfic rankings this year as
Speaker 2: part of the decision making process. Is if it was really,
Speaker 2: you know, a bigger factor, Louisville again would have been
Speaker 2: a five seed based off those rankings. Again, I'm not
Speaker 2: one to actually think something like this. I mean, it's possible, certainly,
Speaker 2: I just I you know, maybe I'm just giving people
Speaker 2: the benefit it out because I assume there's no way they
Speaker 2: would make that kind of a mistake. But maybe they
Speaker 2: did because they can't justify that they I mean, they
Speaker 2: don't have to, which is the real problem. There's no
Speaker 2: mean they can do whatever they want and just decide
Speaker 2: that that's how we decided to do it, that's how
Speaker 2: we see it. So again, I'm not a lunatic when
Speaker 2: it comes to just thinking that that that you know,
Speaker 2: this for sure happened, But if you found out that
Speaker 2: it was a goof, would you be surprised? I Mean,
Speaker 2: this isn't something that people probably really care about. But
Speaker 2: like the n DOUAA, they own the NI T. I
Speaker 2: don't if you guys know that or not. Did you
Speaker 2: guys hear about the goof last night of the n
Speaker 2: I T where they invited a team and told them
Speaker 2: they were coming, only to then't rescind the invite because
Speaker 2: they didn't realize that a team that initially they wanted
Speaker 2: to come was going to be able to come like it.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe these kind of things do happen. But anyways,
Speaker 2: I promise you we're not gonna at least I'm gonna
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Speaker 2: to be honest with you, yesterday, last night, that was
Speaker 2: the most disappointed I've been in a long long time
Speaker 2: for little basketball. Because again, let's consider what really brings
Speaker 2: you to the level of disappointment. There's got to be
Speaker 2: some level of expectation. I was never disappointed in this
Speaker 2: team at any point. Like I didn't like when they
Speaker 2: lost games, they didn't play great all the time, But
Speaker 2: like I wasn't disappointed because, like I knew they were
Speaker 2: given everything they had and that we were making the
Speaker 2: most out of the situation when Kitty Payne was here,
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Speaker 2: so a lot to unpack with this, this entire bracket,
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Speaker 2: one thing I wanted to mention that you did here.
Speaker 2: If you were listening to the beginning of the show,
Speaker 2: but it really is. I mean, in all time reminder
Speaker 2: that they do, in fact pay attention to potential storylines
Speaker 2: that can help generate, you know, interest in specific matchups.
Speaker 2: If they end up happening and having Arkansas and Saint
Speaker 2: John's potentially play each other in the round of thirty two,
Speaker 2: I mean that would be such a weird experience for
Speaker 2: fans around here because I mean, it's col verse Rick,
Speaker 2: but like, we're not involved, and I'm not sure any
Speaker 2: of us ever thought we'd get that again, right, And look,
Speaker 2: both teams got to get past their first opponent, Saint John's.
Speaker 2: I don't think we'll have a whole lot of trouble
Speaker 2: with Omaha. But Kansas Arkansas, I mean, Arkansas is gonna
Speaker 2: be underdogs and for good reason, so we might not
Speaker 2: even get it. Probably won't even get it. If I'm
Speaker 2: being honest with you, I don't think Arkansas will beat Kansas,
Speaker 2: but the thought of that matchup is wild. And again,
Speaker 2: if they can, they will, meaning and I don't really
Speaker 2: see any real issue they clearly I'm gonna take talk
Speaker 2: a lot and a lot of you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say a lot of bad things about the INNC, double
Speaker 2: A and the committee and their selection process today, and
Speaker 2: we've already done a lot of that. So this is
Speaker 2: just something I don't see issue with if in fact
Speaker 2: they if they tried to deny it, that they're liars.
Speaker 2: But even if they did, tell us the yeah, if
Speaker 2: we can pick among teams that are you know, four
Speaker 2: teams in the sea line, if we can match a
Speaker 2: team up with somebody that gives us a good storyline,
Speaker 2: then we'll do that, because you know, this is in
Speaker 2: fact an event that's for television, and the millions and
Speaker 2: millions of people that watch it on television is why
Speaker 2: it's worth so much money. But other than that, and
Speaker 2: again we got we've got plenty of time to to
Speaker 2: kind of in fact, we got all weak to really
Speaker 2: talk about the actual games themselves, the matchups, which regions
Speaker 2: appear to be the strongest and the weakest, that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. But you know, one thing that really stood
Speaker 2: out to me is that when I look at teams
Speaker 2: seeded six, seven, eight, even nine, and I did it.
Speaker 2: I noticed this yesterday when I was looking at all
Speaker 2: the different bracketology out there, thinking that there's no way
Speaker 2: Louisville could be an eight seed, because you know, that
Speaker 2: just doesn't make any sense. Where would that come from.
Speaker 2: But looking at teams like six through nine, I think
Speaker 2: that's a huge pool of teams that are all very similar.
Speaker 2: And I don't mean style of play. I just mean
Speaker 2: like they're all kind of in that same tier in
Speaker 2: my opinion as far as they're good. I think Seeds
Speaker 2: three through five are also kind of in their own tier.
Speaker 2: They're they're better than the rest of the pack outside
Speaker 2: of the elite tier, and the elite tier to me
Speaker 2: is Seeds one through two. I mean, I think Auburn,
Speaker 2: Duke Houston, Florida, Saint John's, Tennessee, Alabama in Michigan State.
Speaker 2: I mean, I do think those are those are the
Speaker 2: best teams in the country right now. And what I
Speaker 2: don't know, and we'll find out. You know, you saw
Speaker 2: some SEC teams run out of gas. I mean Florida
Speaker 2: really did that too. You know, Florida was a big
Speaker 2: factor in that certainly. I mean, if you Kentucky, I
Speaker 2: mean they got blown out by Alabama on Friday night.
Speaker 2: Only for Alabama, I didn't get blown out in their
Speaker 2: next game. So Auburn they've now lost was it three
Speaker 2: or four, but they've all been against good teams, and
Speaker 2: they've all been you know, it's been it's been in
Speaker 2: the almighty sec So I don't know if if that
Speaker 2: means these teams are vulnerable or not. But again, we'll
Speaker 2: find out. I mean, Louisville, if they can get past Creighton,
Speaker 2: they're gonna get Auburn. And I know they've lost more
Speaker 2: games in the last two weeks than they did all year,
Speaker 2: in fact, in the last ten days or something. But
Speaker 2: I mean, when I thought of Louisville, because I've been
Speaker 2: pretty clear the Sweet sixteen is kind of what I'm
Speaker 2: is kind of like a dream thing for me this year.
Speaker 2: Like I I mean, maybe they get further than that,
Speaker 2: but like I've always been kind of saying, look, if
Speaker 2: you can make the second week, and that would be
Speaker 2: like that would be you know, like making a Final four.
Speaker 2: I mean not really, but you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: like it would it would just be what it would
Speaker 2: be awesome. I Mean, you know, clearly you want to
Speaker 2: get you want to go as far as you can.
Speaker 2: But I've always just kind of said, man, if they
Speaker 2: could somehow find a way to get a good enough
Speaker 2: seed to put themselves in the second weekend and give
Speaker 2: us another week of postseason play. Man, that's gonna be
Speaker 2: great for this fan base. And look, they may still
Speaker 2: do that, but I'm thinking about you know, you being
Speaker 2: a sixth seed or a seventh seed, you know, and
Speaker 2: like maybe getting a tube. But to see the number
Speaker 2: one overall seed as the team you would have to
Speaker 2: get past, if you can even get past the second
Speaker 2: big second best Big East team, I mean, I know
Speaker 2: I'm sending dramatic here, but I don't think I don't
Speaker 2: think you can find anybody other than whoever signed off
Speaker 2: on it in that room as far as the committee
Speaker 2: that would have put Louisville in this situation, other than
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