Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday, guys. Welcome to pun Time on a Wager
Talk TV. Andrew and Carmine with you for a very
very busy show. We got two guests today, Buster and Brian.
Handful of games to get to. Carm How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm good.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know you started. Did you see the
shock in my eyes?
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 3: I was looking at the starting goalies and all of
a sudden I hear you Welcome to puck Time. I'm like, oh,
geez man. When I say in our production group that
we are tight on time today, you really take that literally.
So a great show for you guys. Today, we got
Andrew and I are going to talk Utah and Boston.
Don Buster into talk Calgary and San Jose. Andrew and
I will break down Vancouver and to New York Rangers
who were losers to the Anaheim Ducks last night. Brian
Lanter comes in with the exciting game that he always chooses,
the New York Islanders and the Detroit Red Wings. You
and I Andrew will finish it off with Chicago and
Toronto and some glaring stats that I have. Hopefully we
can get the images up on the screen. A same
game parlay a Pod and then we are done. But Andrew,
with that said, one in one in the NHL for
me last night had the Ducks as another drug against
New York Rangers. Had the over in the Jets and
Sends game, and I would play that again. The goalies
and more so Linus Almark played phenomenal in that game.
Auto wins three to two. The pod play wins at
plus one ten, but the over five and a half
doesn't get there. Six point eighty seven of XG generated
in that game and thirty six high danger chances or
thirty seven high danger chances.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Went to see a number that high and a score
that was only three to two.
Speaker 2: But we'll take the one in one day.
Speaker 3: We'll move on to today because it's five dollars Customer Appreciate Day,
and all the cappers at wager Talk have some great
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that they like. Whether they win or lose, uh remains
to be seen. We'll talk about it tomorrow. But Andrew,
with that said, uh, utah and Boston, let's get right
to it. The Bruins minus one five.
Speaker 1: Night was what about Yeah, okay, you know you do
it Andrew, How is your night?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: How Hey, I'm like the I'm like the auctioneer.
Speaker 1: Sold yes, Andrew all good was how was your night?
Speaker 2: Andrew?
Speaker 1: All Good? I had a small play on Dallas. That
was it for the night. I was excited to hit that.
I saw two injuries for the Kings, and I liked
the spot off the shutout for the Stars. We cash
a ticket on them, but karm as sports betters were
never happy. And I did my show with Andy Lang
in the morning for props for NFL, and I talked
about a handful of these props and I said to him,
you know, there's one of these things where this Dolphins
team is not bad overall against the pass, but they're
really bad against tight ends. But the problem is I
can't figure out which tight end to take. Well, it
turns out they all got catches. All three tight ends
for the Pittsburgh Steelers ended up being a good bet,
at least the top two. So that kind of pissed
me off because I stayed off the game because I
was like, ah, I can't decide which guy's going to
be the one that's the number one guy, and then
they both they both have a great night so that
was frustrating. But Carl, I have looked hard at this
car to looked at it last night, looked at it
this morning, and I like these games. So you were
about to tee up this game? Ye what are we
starting with?
Speaker 3: But well, to finish off your thoughts, I didn't even
watch them in the night football game. I had no
action on it. I just couldn't come up with anything.
But the Steelers, I believe that is now twenty six
straight wins on Monday Night football for them. I don't
know what their cover rate is on that those twenty
six games, but they made quick work and sushi out
of the Dolphins yesterday. So with that said, the Utah
Mammoth minus one sixteen slight favorites here essentially with this
price Andrew one sixteen Boston minus one zh five, it
is a coin flip that could move two or three
cents either way, and it is a coin flip of
a game total sits here at six. How are you
breaking this one down?
Speaker 1: Gorm This is one of those games here where I think,
like you talk about the total sitting at six, I
think I'll probably just be looking at the total when
it comes to this one. At first though, I liked
the side because, well, I'll put it this way, I'm
transitioning to a team total. Okay, it's never just a
total with me, it's always a team total. And this
to me seems like kind of a weird number on
the Utah Mammoth. Like if you look at the run
that the Bruins have been on some of the hockey
they've played of late, you look at some of the
hockey that the Mammoth have played of late, Why is
this number the way it is? What is this number
what it is? In general? And maybe a lot of
it has to do with defensive metrics, because the Bruins
are giving up a ton of scoring chances, and based
on my work, the Mammoth aren't that far behind them.
But I think a lot of the victories that we've
seen from this Boston Bruins team, they have been lucky
to have Jeremy Swayman or some good goaltending behind them
in general, which has definitely helped them out. I've also
kind of been looking at this roster and I don't
think some of their depth scoring can be sustained. And
when you look at the Utah Mammoth on a large picture,
I think overall, what they've been doing lately doesn't really
match up to how they've been playing, because I think
this team deserves better, KARM. They get back to back
good performances, back to back good results, putting some goals
up on the board, and sometimes all you need is
some higher scoring games for you to get some confidence
in you. When I look at this Mammoth team, you
know they needed to find some goals, but not only that,
they needed some top players to score some goals. When
I look at that game against the Penguins, it was
a one goal victory, KARM, but a lot of their
top dogs got on the board. Same thing in that
one against the Kraken, they have some top players get
on the board. So when it comes down to this one,
I think Utah is the play here. I think it's
kind of a weird number, And because it's a weird number,
I'm taking the team that I think it's a bit
weird on. So I'm taking Utah.
Speaker 3: What do you think, Yeah, Andrew, I'm going to be
the complete contrarian here and I'm not taking a side.
Everything when you look at the numbers just screams over
six and I'm surprised it's not six and a half
this game, but I like the under in this game. Obviously,
Coolly being out for Utah is a big thing. But
you look at the Bruins and they've been involved in
some of the higher scoring games. But they've been playing
some team at the same time too, that are going
through rough patches. Obviously, the Saint Louis Blues, and I
don't even want to say the Saint Louis or Blues
are going through a rough patch. They're going through a
rough season. You know, they score six against the Winnipeg Jets,
but that you know, that was the Winnipeg Jets that
did not have Connor Hellibuck a goal and at home.
I think we could play that game ten times with
Connor Hellibuck a goal in Winnipeg and the Bruins, I
don't think in ten games they score more than three
goals in any of them. No disrespect to the Bruins
and Bruin fans out there, but they've had an easier schedule.
At some point, I think they're going to hit the kids,
but give them credit, man, they are playing some They're
playing some good hockey right now, and this is probably
another spot in which you get a Utah team coming in.
Speaker 2: Coolly missing.
Speaker 3: I think is a big miss for them, and they're
playing well, but they're also off of a bad loss
in Minnesota where they lose six to two. I'm talking
about the Bruins, and they've been able to bounce back
from bad losses or losses in general. So it is
one of those games in which, yeah, the line does
seem fishy. I just think that Utah's way of winning
this is a lower scoring game, And if you look
at some of the games between these two teams, not
earlier this season and last season, I think the game
in Utah earlier this season finished three to two for
the Mammoth, and then a couple of low scoring games
last year as well too. So that's where I'm gonna
lean to. I'm gonna lean to six year everything screens
the over. I want to be the contrarian and take
the under.
Speaker 1: I don't mind that at all, Karm, because I do
think that we're going to see a little bit of
regression offensively from the Bruins and hopefully it leads to
a low scoring win for the Mammoth. So we'll see
a lot of the guys in the chat think that's
going to close close to Peckham. I mean, it's kind
of where it is now. This is one of those
games it will be interesting to see where it falls.
And you're right, Karen about that loss that the Bruins
are coming off of. But I've tried to get better
at like personally, I sometimes like a team can lose
two in a row, a team can lose a tough
one and then lose that second one again. And so
for me, I've always been a bounce back handicapper. Like
if I see a team get their butts kicked, I
always think they're gonna bounce back. But I'm hoping that
it's like two teams going in opposite directions, I guess
is the script that I'm hoping for, Like ten goals
last two games for the Mammoth, tough game last time
out for the Bes. Hopefully it's two teams going in
different directions. We'll see, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: And to that point, you know, we see a score
line and we see six to two and we just
assume they were blown out.
Speaker 2: It was a bad game.
Speaker 3: They played terrible sometimes and you guys know, I like
to look at at least you have to embrace a
little bit the analytics of the game. And you look
at that game and it's six to two danger chances,
we're ten each, the shots on goal thirty one each
in that game, and the XG was three point one,
six to two point four to one in favor of
the Wild in that game, and that was at all strengths.
So if you just looked at the pure analytics, you
would have said, Okay, this was one of those three
two or maybe four to two with an empty netter
for for the Minnesota Wild.
Speaker 2: It wasn't.
Speaker 3: It was a six to two game. So sometimes you
have to look at, Okay, who are the starting goalies
in that game, and did they play their expected goals
or expected saves above is expected goals saved? Andrew, yes,
expected goals saved above average.
Speaker 1: Or above expected or a goal average.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you always know the proper terminology for that. And
maybe it's just a bad game for them. So I'm
going to look at it that it was a bad
game Andrew as far as like goaltending goal for that one,
and the starter in that game I'm looking at it
right now was Swimming and Gristoffson for for Minnesota. So
With that said, Andrew, I'm leaning under here because a
six to two game that had low analytics in it
as well too and just somehow got away from I
just got away from a couple of power play goals
for Minnesota and that one. Give me the under. And
with that said, give me the under on less than
five minutes to analyze this next game. Don Buster, Let's
bring him in.
Speaker 1: I gotta say Buster's Busters setups looking pretty nice.
Speaker 2: Oh dear, I.
Speaker 5: Good morning, Good morning guys.
Speaker 4: Instead of having the Mexican blanket there, my wife said,
you know what, there's a lot of nice Mexican areas
that we have a little you know, artifacts as they say,
back here.
Speaker 5: In Tortuga Gallo.
Speaker 4: And then we have the Mexican flag, so you know,
just a little bit of Mexican artifacts or things that
are known for Mexico of course, and uh it, I'll
surprise you one day when that flag comes out, because
we're gonna be doing a little bit of traveling through
Mexico this uh these next four months, so we'll have
to have the Mexican blanket up there at some point
in time.
Speaker 1: I have a cousin Buster getting back from but from
from Buster from Mexico like fifth week and he was
there for like five or six weeks. And he he
works from home, so like he's just been going to
like these workstations and you just pay weekly for these workstations.
You show up, there's a slot for your laptop, you
can connect to a monitor, there's coffee and treats, and
he's meeting all kinds of people that do the exact
same thing from all over the world. And yeah, he's
not freezing his ass off, So U sounds pretty good.
And it's, uh, you know, not a good place to
do are not bad place to meet some people as well,
if you know, if you're looking to meet somebody that
in that area, it's a pretty good spot.
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you, guys, we've been coming here for
almost ten years now and this year and you might
even hear some bang in the background. I haven't seen
so much construction. They're building and building and building because
people are coming to Mexico. The people that used to
go and a ton of Canadians that used to go
to Florida they're coming to Mexico.
Speaker 5: So it's started.
Speaker 3: And with that said, and with that said, the Calgary
flames are minus one forty two the San Jose Sharks
or plus one seventeen Tota sits here at five and
a half buster.
Speaker 2: Where are you going with this one?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Carmine, both teams have been playing some solid hockey
here call Calgary's one for the last five games, and
San Jose is coming off a five game road trip
where they had won three of the last five that
East Coast road trip, and saying that we already have
chosen aside here we're gonna make a play for Calgary.
We already gave it out the clients, and I think
we have a pretty good reason here to do. So
this is gonna be the Sharks the first home game
after that five game road trip, And we always love
that angle, like that angle to look at that one
and then we see what Calgary and centers they have
done in the past. Calgary has beat these guys nine
out of ten times. So sometimes teams just have that
and have your number and I don't care who's in
that shirt whatever those clubs know.
Speaker 5: I don't know why that happens.
Speaker 4: We've talked about that on here before, where there's been
some teams that I've just dominated other teams through it.
Speaker 5: For years for years, right, But.
Speaker 4: Nine out of ten and that includes a two nothing
game this year already in Calgary, and we're in in
that game, Calgary, they won to nothing.
Speaker 5: They could have won five. They dominated that game.
Speaker 4: And the surprise thing it was for me, Calgary wasn't
playing that good a hockey at that point in time.
That broke a three game losing streak. Then they went
on to lose a couple more games. So now let's
look at what Calgary has done lately. They are five
and three in their last eight, but I'll tell you, guys,
we can make a case that they could be seven
and one in their last day easy. They lose that
coin flip to Detroit at home, and then they lose
in overtime one nothing at Carolina. So I mean, those
those two games could have easily went their way. They
were soundly beated in Nashville five one, So they've basically
played one bad game of their last day.
Speaker 5: We like that when we're betting aside.
Speaker 4: As for the Sharks here that first home after the
long road trip, you know, and look the way they
won those last two games, unbelievable. I'll tell you, I'll
give it to the teams like the Sharks and the Ducks.
These guys, I tell you they have been playing with heart,
playing with heart. I love teams like that, as you
guys all know. And the two comebacks, Wow, they's never
seen anything like that coming back against Pittsburgh. Well like
I have because I've been doing this for a long time,
but it's been a long time. Come back from a
five to one deficit to win an overtime, and they
do the same thing, I believe against the Leaves to
come back. So they've won their last two games in
extra time, which it's the old crabshoot again, so they
could have lost those last game. Anybody watched that game,
I'm sure a lot of you have out here. Calgary
dominated lay had to go to ot to win that,
but they cheeze. They played very well. They're playing great
hockey if you ask me lately, and I wasn't a
big fan of Calgary, tell you the truth coming into
the season. As for the total, here will give you
a few stats on the total. Calgary are six and
two to the over in their last eight on the road. Okay,
San Jose are four and four the last eight eight
games over and under.
Speaker 5: But when these two teams get together. They are two and.
Speaker 4: Seven the last nine games, so two over seven unders
total at five and a half. Yeah, we don't want
no part of this total at all. Good luck to
anybody that is betting the total. We are playing the
Calgary Flames in this one, guys, All right, buster buster.
Speaker 3: I gotta say to you, man, when you're full screen
and I can see the whole background is beautiful, you
gotta keep that. You got to do your appearances with
that background.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: You got the Mexican flag supporting where you are right now.
That picture behind you fantastic. And I'm not sure is
that a Portuguese chicken because I'm craving Portuguese chicken today,
the barbecue Portuguese chicken with the little potatoes and the
hot sauce and the rice. Out and get some lunch.
Because I saw that bird behind you.
Speaker 2: And what is.
Speaker 4: A It's an ungayo, which is a rooster. Mexico is
well known for the roosters. When you're in a nice
little Mexican town, they tend to sometimes week you up
in the morning.
Speaker 2: So that's it's a buster.
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Speaker 3: And then fantastic breakdown. Wish you the best of luck.
We're gonna have you on on Thursday because Brian Leonard
is off on Thursday. He's going to he is going
He's got an appointment, so he can't make a Thursday show.
So he's on today, he is on tomorrow, so we'll
add you on Thursday. It'll be you and Pres. Damn
you and Pres. I may want to go to the
doctors on t Thursday and missed the show. I'm just kidding, buddy.
Speaker 2: Listen. I wish you the best of luck.
Speaker 3: Buster yet to flash that Montreal one after that victory
over the Edmonton Odiers.
Speaker 2: I know it.
Speaker 3: I know what goes on inside your mind, my friend.
Speaker 2: Best of luck. You know me too. That's all, and
we'll see you on Thursday.
Speaker 5: Man, take care, okay, best luck guys.
Speaker 3: Andrew, we got to talk before we get to Brian
the New York Rangers in Vancouver, Andrew. In this one,
Rangers minus one twenty four, Vancouver's plus one oh three.
The total sits here at three and a half, sorry,
three and a half, five and a half. Andrew, where
are you going with this one?
Speaker 1: Calm? I think a three and a half total, Man,
That wouldn't be ay.
Speaker 2: That might actually still stay over.
Speaker 3: It might still stay under at three and a half
because it is supposed to be because with Schusterkins starting yesterdays,
Jonathan Quick in goal and he's back from his injury,
But in seven starts, his goals against averages one point
eight nine, one point eight nine and above nine. Of course,
save percentage plain phenomenal in goal. The Rangers minus won
twenty four. They just couldn't get anything going yesterday against
the Ducks. They looked good early on. The Ducks staved
off that early pressure from the Rangers, and I think
they eventually took that game over. What's to say that
the Rangers can win tonight?
Speaker 1: Tell me, there's not much to say that they can
calm looking at a lot of the info here the
road home splits four and nine at home, including three
overtime losses, three four to four points percentage and a
minus twenty goal differential minus twenty goal differential. How about
on the road, Well, they're twelve and five on the year,
six nine four points percentage shootout victory for them and
a plus sixteen plus sixteen goals for and against plus
minus differential. But this is one of those angles here, guys,
where I love to look at. Look. I've said it
all the time, and Karmi said this to you. I
think last week somebody asked me this season, what has
been one of my favorite angles that I have grabbed
onto this year in the NHL, and it's been simple.
I have been more comfortable backing teams on second half
of back to back if they're coming off a loss,
if they're coming off a tough loss, an embarrassing loss.
And you know what, Chris Krider came into town, Jacob
Truba came into town, and they just walked all over.
They said, you know, our new team is better, our
new team is more fun to play on. And the
Ducks did look much better. Schisterkin was throwing his stick around,
throwing his gloves around, going towards the locker room. He
wasn't happy. Karm And I know that a lot of
the data that I just read off and you just
talked about, it's not been good. But one thing you
just mentioned is that Jonathan Quick is one of the
best backup goaltenders in the whole league. You know, he's
one of the most consistent. He could be a starting
goaltender on probably a lot of teams, and yet the
Rangers have him as a backup. The Vancouver Canucks kind
of got a little bit of a bump. It was
it was the you know, post trade bump. You know, hey,
we're all going to rally together. We just lost Quinn Hughes,
you know, and I talked about it. Zee billam is
a good player, Marko ROSSI good player, Olgrin good player.
But how many minutes and how much leadership did Quinn
Hughes bring to the team. Well what do we see?
Minnesota won with their first game with Quinn Hughes and
Vancouver won their first game without him and with their
new players. We'll see it that sticks. But I'm on
the Rangers tonight here, Karen. I think this is a spot.
You know, the back to back angle is mostly only
a fade for me when teams are off a win
and not as much a tough loss. So give me
the Rangers.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a bold move, Cotton. It's a bold move, Cotton.
No is, It's it's not a point of going head
to head. It's it's just like when my thoughts are
in the game and why I don't want to be
a part of this game. And and maybe the thought process,
uh gets someone else off of the game as well too,
or maybe get some on the game. But I just
look at it and I get it. With the Canucks,
everyone thinks obviously Hughes gone, they get the bit of
the bump. I think the more important factor here is
thatcher Demko. Thatcher Dempko. When the Canucks were struggling, he
was on the shelf, he was injured. He comes back.
I think they're like one in one since he came back.
They lose three two to the Buffalo Sabers, who somehow
a fashion day three game win streak winning in Edmonton.
Speaker 2: Vancouver.
Speaker 3: O't crack and I don't get this Savers team, uh
and uh And then a win in his last one.
Both games stayed under under the total. If he is
on his game and playing extremely well, uh and, and
the Rangers are struggling to score goals. That's a bad combination.
A team that struggles to score goals against a goalie
who is playing extremely well.
Speaker 2: Uh And.
Speaker 3: It's just one where I don't want to I don't
want to play the what if. Hey, uh it's a
back to back, but the Rangers lost yesterday. They're still
at home and they're catching Vancouver, who are who traded
a one of their best players. Uh And and Peterson
I think could be out as well too.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: I haven't read any of the info, but it's still Andrew.
The total sits here at five and a half, and
I would take the under here because this does scream
kind of like a two one three one three two
type of game to me until the Rangers start to
find some scoring. I'm not entirely sure what is going
on with this Rangers team. Every time we expect them
to play better, they don't. And then obviously the news
yesterday as you sent me the link to it as
well too, with Mika's a bandage at being a healthy
scratch because he showed up late a team meeting or
to practice. This is the coach trying to enforce his
will on the team, and sometimes when you sit out
a couple of your best players, it's not the greatest thing,
and the morale in the dressing room isn't the greatest.
I would not lay any money on the New York Rangers,
even if I had stronger analytic numbers to suggest that
they should win tonight. There's something wrong with that team,
and until I think it's got to get worse before
it gets better, we shall see. So give me the
under in this one, and I'll just hope for a
boring to two game that goes to ot.
Speaker 1: Come on, Carm, cheer for me, Man, cheer for me.
Come on, Rangers.
Speaker 2: We be friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah again, we all be friends. You know what. I
have not taken the Rangers many times. I've written them
the pieces about their performances at home. I'm just kind
of thinking tonight is the night. It's like in the
Miracle on Ice Beach. He's like, we might play them
one hundred times, we might lose ninety nine, but not tonight.
And that's how I feel about the Rangers. They might
lose all of their games at home at Madison Square
Garden all season long, but not tonight. That's how I
feel about the Rangers. They might know Andrew at home,
but not tonight.
Speaker 3: That I've heard those exact words five or six times
when I've been in Vegas and I've been at a
sports bar with Brian Leonards coming on right now, And
when the waiter says to Brian and I, would you
guys like to mix in the water, we both say
not tonight, not tonight, bring us another pint. And with
that said, let's bring him in.
Speaker 1: Brian Leonard, he's not here yet, Carm. He didn't he
didn't show up yet what I'm just kidding. We got
him right.
Speaker 2: Here not tonight, had like twelve coffees.
Speaker 6: I can tell already he's fired up today.
Speaker 2: Brian, how are how are things? Uh?
Speaker 3: First of all, man, you must be excited, your your
your Cleveland Browns are facing the Buffalo Bills this weekend
off one of their best performances of the season. Yeah,
this is still a hockey show.
Speaker 2: I get it. I wanted to throw a curveball at you.
Speaker 6: Everybody that thought Saunders was the answer, uh, not realizing no,
and to his credit, you've got no offense? Is it
a flat last time I was on here.
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: Is it a bad thing though? To come off an
easy win like that? I wasn't playing on talking football either,
But isn't that sometimes going to be a bad thing?
Or it's like, ah, we just played against a bad team.
Tough to say. We'll find out.
Speaker 2: Anyway the Bells.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: Well it was a tongue in cheek about the Cleveland
Browns coming off of their best game of the season,
where they Oh.
Speaker 6: I thought you were talking about Buffalo coming up?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no one bite.
Speaker 2: Everyone knows the rules.
Speaker 3: The slice boys. He's a little upset that is cheering
for his team when they were up twenty one nothing.
Do they not know the game is played over sixty minutes?
Apparently not. Anyways, with that said, this game is being
played over sixty maybe sixty five minutes because it involves
the Thailanders. But the Red Wings minus one thirty five
the Islanders plus one eleven. We saw that line a
couple of times yesterday, a couple one one eleven's total
sits here at six, Brie. How are you breaking this
one down?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a little bit. I'm not getting the love
for the Detroit Red Wings. I follow a lot of
people on their power ratings and you know, national guys
and stuff, and they're pumping up Detroit. Well, they're getting
a lot of a lot of love. I don't understand it.
They're coming off that four and two road trip. But
the teams they beat with the Kraken, the Canucks, the Flames,
and the Blackhawks, those teams are combining fifty and seventy
seven on the season. I know it's a good team,
a good spot to It's fade teams off a long
road trips, especially off of winning ones.
Speaker 2: But I.
Speaker 1: Don't.
Speaker 6: I don't want Detroit here. These teams aren't even comparable.
The Islanders are the better team. If you take a
look at season stats, the Islanders have better numbers. They're
nine to five and one on the road certainly helps
that cause. And if osco Detroit in two combined games
this year, twelve to two, so you could say, yes,
it's a big, big payback game for Detroit here, but
you can also say that maybe they just don't match
up well with the Islanders twelve to two. It's that's
two games, two different games in which they blew them out,
and they swept both those games obviously, and it's it's
been a incredible start to the month of December for
the Islanders. There's six and one on the month of December,
and they've only had one road trip. They went to
Tampa Bay in Florida and back to back games, and
obviously when you go to Tampa Bay and Florida, they're
not too far apart, so it's just basically just one
little trip from New York to Florida. And those games
happened on the sixth and seventh of December. That's the
only two road games they had played. In the last
twenty five days. So you've got arrested Islanders team. It's
their only game they're playing in a five day span.
They do have a back to back this weekend. But
why are the Islanders not the favorite in this game.
I'm not the kind of guy who looks a gift
horse in the mouth. To me, the Islanders are the
better team, better scheduling, situation. Not a big believer in Detroit.
I like the Islanders here.
Speaker 1: I love that and I'm ready to go against them
as well, Brian, because I think this Detroit team is
finally getting a little bit of goaltending. They're finally getting
a little bit of this. But look at their goal differential.
And I'm not always a huge differential guy, but look
at the wild card standings. You've got teams in the
wild card standings with a better goal differential than a
team second place in the division. Like, I am curious
to when the fall off of Detroit's going to be,
and it might be coming up here soon. So I
like your breakdown. I'm with you on a lot of
that stuff. And the Stevie Why the Wiser plan that
people talked about for a while, it's looking the best
it's had in a long time. But you know what's crazy.
If we take away the Buffalo Sabers Carmines team that
just fired their general manager for the twentieth time in
twenty years, it feels like, you know, we've got like
five or six points separating the whole division there. So
Detroit's in second place in the division. By the end
of next week, they could be out of a playoff spot.
That's how it works right now. It's so competitive. Bright.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you see a lot of that going around. We've
seen teams like Washington go from number one to the
last place and the back. Every team gets on a
little bit of runs, and you like to play those
teams if you're getting value. I know Carmine was shaking,
said so, I don't know if he it likes my play,
but I've got to say, Andrew, I liked your play
on the Rangers. I like busters play on Calgary. I
really have not heard anything from Carmine on this podcast
that I can agree with and have to me, so
i'm as.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 3: It's not that I'm against you, it's just I'm not
on the same side as you.
Speaker 6: So I think that would be against most of the time,
but against Man.
Speaker 2: I've been watching.
Speaker 3: I've been watching a lot of the Detroit games, and yes,
and my affinity for the Detroit staff. That's our family
in Detroit, that takes very good care of us. But
it's just one of those ones where listen, the Islanders
are playing great.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 3: And I have a good friend who lives in New
York who's a season ticket older for the Islanders, and
we'll chat often about this team. I think at some
point a couple of the injuries that this team has
is going to catch up to them right now, and
it normally does when you start to go on these
road trips. Playing at home, They've been playing well at home,
but they're going to Detroit here. I think the Wings
are playing playing well right now, probably better hockey than
they have there as far as analytics go, better hockey
than they have each or earlier in the in the season.
Gibson's in goal, they're looking you know, he's been good.
The duo is much better than the duel that they
had last year, you know, I mean, the Talbot and
Gibson are much better than having villye Husso in Gole
and Alex Lyon for a short part. By the way, Andrew,
I'm going to mention a couple of trades that were
sent to me a little later on in the show
if we have time for them, because one involves your
Montreal Canadians. But we'll get there get shortly, Brian, I
get it. So one thirty five is about the height
of when I want to lay one forty on Detroit
against the Islanders. But I do like them tonight in
this spot. I think if if the Islanders are going
to hit a bump in the road, it's when they're
not at one full strength. And when they're on the road.
Speaker 6: Well, listen to Detroit missing their future Hall of Famer.
He's going to be out again tonight, right.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be wearing the Patrick kne jersey. I
watched the game tonight.
Speaker 6: Maybe they'll put you in because you're losing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, have you ever seen me on skates? It is
about the same as me trying to solve a Rubik's
Cube with snow gloves on. It is not going to happen.
I'm probably one of the few Italians that doesn't skate.
As a kid, I went skating uh in our local
back then grade school. Brian as a kid, and it
was it was a shared where they played hockey, but
you could also go skating. And some guy ripped the puck,
hit me in the back of the leg and freezing cold,
and I'm like, f this took my skates off, went home,
watch cartoons. That's how young I was. And I'm like,
I'm never going skating again. And uh, I probably only
gone skating three times in my life.
Speaker 6: Wow, I've got a quick and your story. But it
but it had involved stage diving and a faith no
more concert back and when I lived in Claveland, like,
I'm getting other getting out there, I'm getting up close
to stage and some guy dove off and he had
those big boots on kicked me in the head. I said,
I'm getting the hell out of here.
Speaker 3: He kicked you in the head. Well, that would your playing.
Speaker 6: For it to happen.
Speaker 1: Brian the Bean Show says that Karmaine to you, I'm
not against you. I just hate your pick. I'm not
against you at all. I just don't like your pick.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't want to listen Brian. Brian's
Brian's number one at wager talk in the NHL since
the inception of this company. I do not want to
go against the guy who's number one in the NHL.
You got to give the man credit. We can talk
about three day, seven day, thirty day streaks. I think
thirty is a little bit better. I think one year
is better. But when you're going back years, uh and
showing consistency in the NHL. But I should be here
like your marketing manager or something, it tells you. It
absolutely tells you. It is just like baseball with Brian
because Brian, well, the rest of us are doing whatever
the heck we're doing in the summertime or spring Brian
is going to to training camps and uh and uh,
what are they called? The Arizona the spring league Spring leagues?
Speaker 6: Yes, spring spring training, spring training league, and the yeah,
hot Leap.
Speaker 2: We're going to keep you along. We're going to keep
you for one more game.
Speaker 6: We gotta hopefully you can give me something I get
some value in today.
Speaker 3: Yes, you're going to get tremendous value out of this
one because we have the overpriced Toronto may Beliefs at
minus two oh eight, the Chicago Blackhawks at one sixteen.
It's one sixty nine, and the total sits here five
and a half. I'm going to go to Andrew first
on his take and then yours. Obviously the big the
number is a little more inflat given the fact that
Connor Bodard is not in the lineup, traveling with the
team but not in the lineup for because of an injury. Andrew,
what do you like here? Andrew's gone for coffee.
Speaker 2: I'm back.
Speaker 1: I'm back. I'm back. Don't worry, I'm back. But he's
got Brian said, I had too much coffee. I had
to have more, so I was just sipping on it.
You know, wait until we got to the next game, Brian.
You know when Carmine tells us before the show to
keep it tight, I'm trying to keep it tight, you know.
I'm doing doing my best. I like the over five
and a half here. I like the over five and
a half in this one. Guys. Look, we've seen a
lot of unders. Pres gave out probably fifty five unders
on this Leafs team, and he's hit fifty four of
them this year. He has done very well with them.
But I think that we're gonna start to see things change.
The reliancy on goaltending has been very, very very evident,
we've been seeing like we can't really say, oh, this
team is playing better defensively, that's why they're going under. No,
they're going under because their superstars weren't scoring and their
goaltenders were playing very, very above their means. And we
slowly started to see that go back to normal. You know,
Edmonton lit them up on Saturday on what was it
Saturday Night. We've seen a couple of tough performances now
from Hill. Toby stoul Lars is still injured, you know,
Wall he might play tonight, he might not. But this
team got called out by all their leaders, their coach,
their veterans, even Scott Lawton said whatever the hell we're
doing is not acceptable. You've got media members right now saying,
Austin Matthews, you know, we used to compare this guy
to Connor McDavid. You know now we barely compare him
to Curtis McDermott for how he's playing. You know, we
don't even know what this guy is capable of. I
think this is a big game for the star players,
but also it's a big bump for the Blackhawks. Guys.
We hear it quarterbacks in the NFL when they go
out everybody wants to bet against them. How about when
Connor Bedard goes out and everyone steps up, maybe the
offense can find itself without Bdard on the team. We're
getting a five and a half as the total. I'll
take the over in this one. I feel like Chicago
can find their offense without but Dard for at least
one game, but they might suffer big time without him.
Moving forward over five and a half for me, We've
also seen some very competitive back and forth games between
these teams over the years, and quite honestly, I kind
of wanted to find a way to bet on Toronto
in some way, shape or form. But can you really
look at this number and say, oh, yeah, I respect
this number here on the Maple Leafs. I can't. So
I'm on the over five and a half here, guys.
And there's one book that we notice on odds logic
that has a six, which gives me confidence because I
don't mind when that book shows a six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Andrew, before we go to Brian on this one,
I'll give you my quick take on this. Obviously. This
is Joseph wall Is confirmed to start tonight for the
Toronto Maple Leafs. You know before getting injured, you settle
what four games, I think going back to the Carolina game,
but the guy was phenomenal. You had like a one
point two or one point six goals against average, I think,
and the two previous starts he was on a nice
little run. Then he gets injured. Back in the lineup.
The fact is, I'm probably gonna take the Leafs on
the money line, sorry not on the puck line here
because and take the plus one twenty five to get
them to win by a couple of goals. And that
seems like a stretch, But this is also a This
is also a Chicago team that is like twenty fourth
or twenty fourth or twenty fifth I think in scoring,
they're averaging like two point eighty four goals per game
on the season. And then you take out your best
player out of the lineup, and I get the next
man up mentality. I just I think they're going to
heavily have They're gonna have to rely heavily on Spencer
night tonight if he in fact starts that game. For him,
he's listed as expected at the moment, They're really going
to need him to play.
Speaker 2: One of his best games.
Speaker 3: And I'm going to get Brian's take on this, and
then I want to put up a couple a couple
analytic things from the last a few years with regards
to one of the Tromo Maple Leaf players to get
you give you a better understanding of why the Leafs
are struggling this year. But Brian, what's your take on
this one? I think it's correlated.
Speaker 6: If you like Chicago, you like the under If you
like Toronto, you're probably liking the over wall coming back,
and you mentioned how great he was, but he had played,
he'd been hurt, so it's his first game back. I
think that's a negative. And you have Badard first game
without Badard. I think that's a positive for Chicago in
one game. We see this all the time, and it
was mentioned when with starting quarterbacks, your best player is
not going to be out, the other team seems to
rally around him in a short time. In a long time,
it's not good. But I've heard rumors that Badard may
be back in January, and that's probably a best case
scenario for them when they're looking at the future of
this team for the rest.
Speaker 2: Of the year.
Speaker 6: I know that we could have gotten one ninety five
on the overnight with Chicago, so I can't. I can't
bet them now when it's as low as what one
sixty five at MGM. So we're not getting the value
any longer on Chicago. But you may be able to
still play the under and come up with it the
same way Toronto. I've been joining uh pres on his
unders in Toronto so and they've had success in doing that.
Last time they went out in the game went over
was a game that they didn't play good defense. So
I think that they're going to play a little bit
try to play a little bit better defense today, and
that's really the only way Chicago. I can't see Chicago
winning this in a high scoring game, so I'm not
involved in it, but I think we've lost any value
on Chicago. You may have to look at Toronto now
find a way to play them, either first team to
score or something to that effect, because I don't think
Chicago's going to get a lot of goals against him
in this one.
Speaker 3: All right, Brian, I'm gonna let you promote uh and
then get out of here.
Speaker 2: Of course, and then Andrew.
Speaker 3: Will put up the slides up there because we're just
gonna I'm just gonna show them, make a brief comment,
and then we'll get onto the same game parlies and
and the play of the day. Brian, what do you
got up on five dollars customer Appreciation Day?
Speaker 6: Yeah, right now, I'll get two plays up in the NHL.
I'll be I'm working on my college basketball as we speak,
up over ninety six units of profits since September ninth,
I believe, so we're looking at over four months. Has
been really really good in that amount of time. But
I'm not gonna talk much about today because tomorrow is
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these packages are going on right now. Buster talked a
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and they're all great deals so college football. Unfortunately, I
got nothing else tonight's game, but it did start off
with the Washington in these ball games and that worked
out pretty well for us. So yeah, everything's good. Nothing
in the NBA, nothing in the college football today, but
tomorrow's the day to join me for an extended amount
of time, all.
Speaker 3: Right, and we have guys, we have that great deal
hat Trick. The hat Trick deal forty nine dollars, three days,
NHL All Access. I believe you can. You can select
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You're going to get three days from the guy who's
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Speaker 2: Brian.
Speaker 3: Always love having you on. We will see you on
tomorrow's show as well.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Right, Andrew, I want to talk real quickly and I'm
going to make this real quick so you know, we
talk about the not the demise of the Toronto maple LEAs,
but why they are disappointing the season and their best player.
You always reflect back on the best player, the moves
the teams make. This is Austin Matthews numbers, not this year,
the previous three seasons. Look at his numbers the previous
three seasons. And this is with Mitch Marner. That is
a franchise player. Everything in the blue, five on five,
five on five defense. Look at the defensive numbers, five
on five defensive numbers, eight, shot efficiency, power plays, PK,
penalty differential. The guy is unbelievable. During the Mitch Marner
area era at Toronto, Let's have a look at what
has happened to Austin Matthews now that he does not
have Mitch Marner feeding him the puck and this is
this season. Look at those numbers. This is like putting
diesel fuel in a car that only takes gasoline. Five
on five offense, look at his five on five defense,
and I'm going to keep this image for the next
time preses on the show. Who tells me that Austin
Matthews is a great defensive player, I'm sorry unless you
consider thirteen percent great. That is not five on five defense,
terrible shot efficiency. Look at those and for every single
person that wanted Mitch Marner out of Toronto, look at
those numbers. Reflect on them, because that is the difference
between having a playmaker and not just a shot taker
on your team. So, Andrew, any thoughts or should we
get onto the same game parlat.
Speaker 1: Be My thoughts would just be more so the fact
that it they said that they wanted to make Mitch
Miner leave because he's so bad in the playoffs. And
now nobody's gonna get a chance to be bad in
the playoffs because they're not even gonna make the playoffs. So, uh, yeah,
we're gonna get rid of a guy because he doesn't
perform well in the playoffs and now they might not
even make the playoffs.
Speaker 3: So fans, fans, fans can be Fans can be toxic, Andrew,
And I'll leave it at this point and then we'll
move on to the same game partly in the pod.
Fans can be toxic. But the minute, okay, the minute
fans start showing up at a player's house or making
threatening comments to their families, Uh, that is where a
line has been severely crossed, not just stepped over, severely crossed.
And that is what happened with Mitch Marner and that
is why he is happy where he is right now.
So to the uh it does it's not the whole
fan base, but it is enough that did it to him,
and that is way way too far. Andrew, give us
the same game party that's going to hit Uh.
Speaker 1: Carm Okay, So I've got a couple of plays, and
the odds literally just changed because I saw about some
health updates, which kind of bothers me here. But I'm
just gonna give you two plays that I like here,
and this is from the game that we just talked about.
When I look at this, I think that Austin Matthews,
whether or not he scores or not, is going to
have himself a good night tonight. So I'm gonna take
Austin Matthews four plus shots on goal, and I'm gonna
take John Tavares to get one point. That's plus one.
We're keeping it simple. That's one of my same game
parlays that I like for today. The rest of them
I'll tweet out or the rest of them will be
given to clients. But you know this one guy karm
he lost his captaincy. He was stripped of his captaincy
in replace of Austin Matthews. I still think he's the
real leader on the team. I think he'll get a
point tonight. And I do think Austin Matthews. You know,
Austin Matthews had like seven or eight shots a couple
of games ago and the only goal he scored was
the empty net. Goal. You know, his shot might not
be the same as what it once was, but I
do think he gets a lot of shots tonight. Let's
be honest, if I could have asked you, hey, what's
one team that would be great to play for Austin
Matthews and the Maple Leafs tonight, Leeds fans have to
be thrilled to get a chance to play tonight against
the Blackhawks without Badard five on five, the worst team
defensively in the last ten games. So point four tavares
and four plot shots on goal for Matthews. That's plus
one forty two. Not a bad price their card, not
a bad price.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: I will make mine quick and we'll get some promos
and get out of here.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 3: This is actually a client play. I gave it to
the people who bought Thursday's package as well too, because
I wasn't happy with their one on one day. I
am taking as the pod play off of yesterday's win.
I am taking the over in the Ducks game tonight
against Columbus. Columbus is leaking oil and leaking oil bad
right now. But the Anaheim Ducks off a win last
night and second of a back to back and it's
a Villy Whoso in goal tonight. You guys know I'm
not a big Villy Whoso fan Anaheim or sorry. The
Jackets two and nine their last eleven games. They're averaging
two point eight two goals per game, two point nine
to three at home. I think they're going to get theirs,
but I think it's more important the fact that you
got an Anaine team that is the third best with
over unders on the season at twenty and twelve over
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