1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: You were listening to Petlifradio dot Com. 2 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: Well, good afternoon to everybody out there. Here on pet 3 00:00:28,079 --> 00:00:32,320 Life Radio, you are listening to doctor Jeff Werber here 4 00:00:32,359 --> 00:00:34,119 on Ask the Bets with Doctor Jeff. 5 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: And I am thrilled to be here on this lovely well. 6 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: You know, I guess I deserve it because I'm always 7 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,359 boasting about how great it is to be here in 8 00:00:42,399 --> 00:00:43,159 southern California. 9 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: Is sitting here in Los Angeles. Last week was eighty six. 10 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,119 Speaker 2: Degrees and we had a lot of rain in the 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,320 last day or so more on the way. 12 00:00:51,359 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 3: The only good thing is for any. 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,479 Speaker 2: Of you that ski or snowboard like myself, they got 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,119 a lot of snow, so I'm happy. I'll be headed 15 00:00:58,159 --> 00:01:00,520 to Mammoth sooner than later with the new to snow 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,359 they have. But I had a little traveling this last week, 17 00:01:03,399 --> 00:01:06,680 so it's been crazy, and my off people always say, well, God, 18 00:01:06,719 --> 00:01:08,439 you must love when you go at traveling. I mean, 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,000 I like it, but when I have to come back 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,319 and work three times as hard because I have all 21 00:01:13,359 --> 00:01:15,519 these clients that were waiting for me to come back. 22 00:01:15,519 --> 00:01:18,920 You know, I have wonderful associates, just fantastic associates, and 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,920 them call and them want to make an appointment, and 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,079 my receptions would say, well, you know, doctor Werber's not 25 00:01:24,079 --> 00:01:25,879 in today or n tomorrow. Would you like to see 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,439 doctor you know so and so Wednesday back? Oh he's 27 00:01:28,439 --> 00:01:31,000 back on Thursday. Well, no, will waits. But ma'am, you 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,319 just say your dog is dying. No they could see me. 29 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: They wait. 30 00:01:35,879 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: So anyway, it's been one of those days yesterday and today, 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,079 and then I leave tonight off again to do some 32 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:42,959 In fact, I'll tell you now, I want everybody to 33 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,959 watch Fox and Friends Sunday Beyond Sunday Morning with Tucker Carlson, 34 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,439 who's fantastic, who is amazing, amazing dog lover, and we're 35 00:01:50,439 --> 00:01:52,239 gonna be talking about a number of things about the 36 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,280 holidays and some holiday toxicities, things to watch for. 37 00:01:55,519 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: And I think the subject matter is so important we're. 38 00:01:58,079 --> 00:02:00,159 Speaker 2: Going to talk about it today as well. And I 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,400 just did an interview with one of the magazines's pet 40 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,959 Age magazine. In fact, I literally minutes before I started 41 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:08,080 my show here and one of the questions I was asking, 42 00:02:08,159 --> 00:02:10,479 I really want your input, So I'm going to beg you, 43 00:02:10,879 --> 00:02:14,120 insist that you call me or send me a note. 44 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,800 But you can you know, easily catch me here on 45 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,800 my show, just you know, give us a holler and 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,800 at eight seven seven three eight five eight eight eight 47 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,599 two once again area code eight seven seven three eight 48 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,639 five eight eight eight two, because I want to know 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,319 if you've heard of anything like this or a story 50 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:32,199 of something negative. 51 00:02:32,199 --> 00:02:32,759 Speaker 3: And here it is. 52 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: Apparently people are building very tall cat trees. And you 53 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,319 know all what the cat tree is, and it's it's 54 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,000 like a you know, picture it as like a jungle 55 00:02:41,039 --> 00:02:44,599 gym for cats. So one of the stacy and she 56 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,319 was actually asking me that she knew of a cat tree. 57 00:02:48,439 --> 00:02:50,240 I don't know whether it was the tallest one, but 58 00:02:50,319 --> 00:02:51,840 certainly a tall one of. 59 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,479 Speaker 3: Twenty six feet. 60 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: So, first of all, I'm curious to know do any 61 00:02:56,439 --> 00:02:59,439 of you have cat trees that are twenty six feet? 62 00:02:59,479 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 3: That's tall? But what he was asking was are they dangerous? 63 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: In other words, has anyone ever had a cat that 64 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,560 fell off their own cat tree to the point of 65 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,039 hurting himself or herself? And my answer, well, first of all, 66 00:03:11,159 --> 00:03:12,599 you know, I have six cats, and I've had some 67 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,319 pretty good sized cat trees, certainly you know, ten footers, 68 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,240 and none of my cats have ever fallen off of 69 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,159 a cat tree, let. 70 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,199 Speaker 3: Alone hurt themselves. 71 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: So I'm just curious and I want to hear from you. 72 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,199 You can also get me at doctor Jeff atpetlifradio dot com. 73 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,639 Has any listener out there, anyone who's joined as our show, 74 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,759 would you get a hold of us? Could just call 75 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,680 in eight seven seven three eight five eight eight eight 76 00:03:32,759 --> 00:03:34,719 two A have you ever seen or heard of a 77 00:03:34,719 --> 00:03:37,719 cat tree that tall? And number two if you have 78 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,639 or even if you have one, even I'll take one 79 00:03:40,719 --> 00:03:43,159 fifteen feet or twenty feet. Have you ever had a 80 00:03:43,159 --> 00:03:45,639 cat fall off of it to the point of hurting 81 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,039 him or herself? I think that'd be a cool thing 82 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,639 to know. So anyway, I'm here every Thursday. I'm here 83 00:03:51,639 --> 00:03:54,840 every Thursday one o'clock Pacific time, four o'clock out in 84 00:03:54,879 --> 00:03:58,080 the east, and whatever time in the middle that might be, 85 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,960 because I know some people take the change of clocks 86 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:00,840 and others don't. 87 00:04:01,039 --> 00:04:03,199 Speaker 3: And we're here for you. We are here to answer 88 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:04,879 your questions. It's free. 89 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: It's free to log on to petlife radio dot com. 90 00:04:08,199 --> 00:04:10,680 It's free to call an eight seven seven number and 91 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,120 one of any questions you may have about your pet. 92 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,120 If it's something that I cannot give you an answer 93 00:04:15,199 --> 00:04:18,160 right away. I will get you an answer, but it's 94 00:04:18,199 --> 00:04:21,639 free information. And not only that, as a pro sense 95 00:04:21,879 --> 00:04:24,720 pet products, one of our sponsors will actually send you 96 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,000 out a free product for your dog or your cat 97 00:04:28,399 --> 00:04:32,279 if you call in. So now you have major extra incentive, 98 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,040 not just to get an answer to that question that's 99 00:04:35,079 --> 00:04:38,000 been just bugging you for weeks and weeks, from months 100 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:43,040 and months. Free answers and free product, you cannot go wrong. 101 00:04:43,399 --> 00:04:45,680 So I want to hear back from you, and just 102 00:04:45,759 --> 00:04:48,959 also what's happening with your pets. You know, the more 103 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,680 we hear about your pets, the more we have to 104 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,160 talk about. And what's amazing to me is the people 105 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,160 are sitting out there and the same to themselves. 106 00:04:57,199 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 4: You know. 107 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: God, I want to ask this question, but I am 108 00:04:59,639 --> 00:05:02,079 so embarrassed. I'm probably the only one in the world 109 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,240 that's got this question. Let me tell you something, been 110 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,319 doing radio for a long time, and these talk shows 111 00:05:07,319 --> 00:05:10,959 and answering the calling, answer question, answer shows, and there 112 00:05:11,079 --> 00:05:12,680 is nothing new under the sun. 113 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: Trust me. 114 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,759 Speaker 2: Whatever you think, whatever problem you think you have condition 115 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,519 with your pet, you've been dealing with for the longest time, 116 00:05:20,639 --> 00:05:22,839 the shortest time, and you think, oh my god, I'm 117 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,480 the only one. I don't want to embarrass myself. I 118 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,879 don't want to call in. You will find out, trust me, 119 00:05:27,319 --> 00:05:30,040 and other listeners that are hearing will say, oh my god, 120 00:05:30,199 --> 00:05:32,920 my pet is the same problem. So it only helps 121 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,680 the shy of you out there. Those are you lit 122 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,879 are too shy to call. If those that aren't call 123 00:05:38,959 --> 00:05:42,879 in and start asking some questions about your pets. Now 124 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,360 I've been I I'm doing Fox and Friends on Sunday morning. 125 00:05:47,439 --> 00:05:49,800 That's live, so you can tune in Sunday morning. And 126 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,560 then I'm doing The Better Show. I'm filming that on Monday, 127 00:05:53,879 --> 00:05:55,680 and I do not know at hand when that is 128 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,399 going to air. However, I will let you know here 129 00:05:59,439 --> 00:06:02,519 in Pet Life Radio, and either I or Mark Winter, 130 00:06:02,759 --> 00:06:05,480 our producer, will put something out there to let you 131 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,160 know when that is going to air. 132 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 3: That's called The Better Show. 133 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,879 Speaker 2: But one of the things we're talking about, and this 134 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,399 was actually rather surprising, but not only holiday hazards. I mean, 135 00:06:15,399 --> 00:06:17,680 I love to talk about holiday hazards this time of year. 136 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,959 Of course, they are all preventable, but what makes them 137 00:06:21,959 --> 00:06:23,800 preventable is knowledge. 138 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:24,959 Speaker 3: Knowledge is king. 139 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: If I can tell you in advance what to be 140 00:06:27,319 --> 00:06:30,279 aware of, what to watch out for, what is truly 141 00:06:30,319 --> 00:06:33,240 a potential danger and what isn't. Then you'll be on 142 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,040 your toes and you'll keep your pets away from this, 143 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,720 this persistent or this potential danger. So one of the 144 00:06:38,759 --> 00:06:41,040 things we talked about, I thought it was actually interesting 145 00:06:41,079 --> 00:06:44,199 to learn. So, first of all, eggnog, and a lot 146 00:06:44,199 --> 00:06:47,079 of people like eggnog. Personally, I'm not a big fan, 147 00:06:47,399 --> 00:06:51,800 but there are some problems with the alcohol. If there 148 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,040 is alcohol in the eggnog, that dogs and cats can 149 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,560 truly get alcohol poisoning in more. 150 00:06:57,399 --> 00:06:58,079 Speaker 3: Than one way. 151 00:06:58,199 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: And I don't mean just letting them drink yourcotonic I'm 152 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,920 talking about by eating foods that contain alcohol or foods 153 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,519 that are doustra diyped in alcohol, dogs and cats have 154 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,319 gotten alcohol poisoning. Another problem with the eggnog is the 155 00:07:13,399 --> 00:07:16,759 raw egg can cause some gas to intestinal distress to 156 00:07:16,839 --> 00:07:20,000 many dogs and cats, So you want to be careful. Now, 157 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,240 as far as the holiday plants, usually overrated people think mistletoe, 158 00:07:24,279 --> 00:07:27,000 it turns out that American missiletoe is really not. 159 00:07:27,079 --> 00:07:28,279 Speaker 3: Toxic at all. 160 00:07:28,639 --> 00:07:30,879 Speaker 2: Now, it could be just an irritant to the esophagus 161 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,839 or to the intestinal attract but there's no toxicity. However, 162 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,639 English mistletoe, which is really isn't even available or here 163 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,920 in this country, can and does have some toxic properties. 164 00:07:41,079 --> 00:07:43,519 The only plant that we really you know, really need, well, 165 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,959 holly can cause some vomiting diarrhea. So but it's more 166 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:52,079 that there are thick waxy leaves, and those waxy leaves 167 00:07:52,199 --> 00:07:54,360 are what can cause the vomiting and diarrhea because they 168 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,000 become sort of a gastric irritant. But there's no like 169 00:07:58,199 --> 00:08:03,000 true chemical toxic effect to holly. Christmas cactus gets some 170 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,959 bad press, not really a problem. Point Setia gets some 171 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,120 bad press, not a problem. In fact, it's been determined 172 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,759 that point Setia isn't toxic at all. Now again because dogs, 173 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,160 for example, I'll give you a perfect example. How many 174 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,639 of you have dogs out there or cats that like 175 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,199 to eat grass? Okay, so what happens typically when they 176 00:08:22,199 --> 00:08:26,160 eat grass, there's no toxic effective grass, unless of course 177 00:08:26,199 --> 00:08:28,439 the grass was freshly fertilized, and there could be some 178 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,600 issues with the nitrogen and the fertilizer. But grass itself 179 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,519 is not toxic. However, many dogs we eat grass vomit. 180 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,480 In fact, that brought up the famous discussion do dogs 181 00:08:38,639 --> 00:08:42,960 eat grass because they want to vomit? Or do they 182 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,519 eat grass because it feels good to them, not realizing 183 00:08:46,879 --> 00:08:49,279 that a certain amount of time later they're going to vomit. 184 00:08:49,399 --> 00:08:51,279 I'm not gonna give you my answer to that one. Actually, 185 00:08:51,399 --> 00:08:54,840 there's another reason to call in here to pet Life Radio. 186 00:08:54,919 --> 00:08:56,879 Ask the bests with doctor Jeff. I want to hear 187 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,279 your answers to what you think is the reality dogs 188 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,159 eat grass because they know it's going to make them vomit, 189 00:09:03,519 --> 00:09:06,120 or to eat grass because they like it, they find 190 00:09:06,159 --> 00:09:10,679 it soothing, not aware that twenty minutes later, half hour later, whatever, 191 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:11,679 it's going to make them vomit. 192 00:09:11,919 --> 00:09:12,879 Speaker 3: I want to hear what you think. 193 00:09:12,919 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: But anyway, what turns out with the point setia is 194 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,799 that it is a plant. Dogs don't digest plants well, 195 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,919 and yes, it might make them vomit, might give them diarrhea, 196 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,000 but it is not a poison. 197 00:09:25,399 --> 00:09:28,799 Speaker 3: Now, it leads us to a plant that is a poison. 198 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: Fortunately, it's not a plant that's usually made into these 199 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,360 wreaths that go on a door or things that you 200 00:09:34,399 --> 00:09:39,200 hang from a tree, but lilies. Lilies are potentially deadly 201 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:44,159 to cats, not only not only the lily plant itself, 202 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,919 but actually if you have lilies in a ose and 203 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,879 you have them in water, if a cat drinks the 204 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:56,159 water from those lilies, they too can become toxic. It 205 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,960 causes severe, severe kidney disease, and that is a problem 206 00:10:00,039 --> 00:10:03,639 them as well. So just know that lilies are to 207 00:10:03,759 --> 00:10:06,919 be avoided at all costs in your home. If you 208 00:10:07,039 --> 00:10:09,759 have cats, and if you do have lilies, keep them 209 00:10:09,879 --> 00:10:12,919 very high up that not that usually that stops a cat, 210 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,879 because it's not going to stop a cat, but make 211 00:10:14,879 --> 00:10:16,759 it very very difficult for them to get to. Or 212 00:10:16,799 --> 00:10:19,720 better yet, keep your cats in a different room. Don't 213 00:10:20,279 --> 00:10:22,519 expect the height to keep a cat away, in fact, 214 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,279 to them to a cat. This is more of a challenge. Now, 215 00:10:25,399 --> 00:10:27,919 how about cake fruitcakes? So in the surface say, well, 216 00:10:27,879 --> 00:10:30,200 come off, it's a fruitcake. Ah, but what a couple 217 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,960 of things that are in fruitcakes that could be a problem. 218 00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:36,720 So we are going to keep you hanging and we 219 00:10:36,799 --> 00:10:38,519 are going to be back in a second. 220 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 3: We're going to take our break. 221 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: I want to once again thank our sponsors, which are 222 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,879 Pro Sense Pet Products and Walmart for carrying our full 223 00:10:46,879 --> 00:10:49,279 line of Pro Sense Pet products. Then we will be 224 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,919 back after these quick messages. 225 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:52,639 Speaker 3: Stay tuned. 226 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,799 Speaker 1: We'll be right back right after these messages, stay tuned. 227 00:11:02,759 --> 00:11:06,399 Speaker 4: Every pet is unique. Maybe they're gray in the muzzle 228 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,840 yet young at heart. 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You're here with Live with Doctor Jef 259 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:35,039 Werber at Ask the Bats with Doctor Jeff. And before 260 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,480 the break, you know, we talked about something as relatively 261 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:43,000 benign one would think about fruitcake. What do you think 262 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:44,799 might be a problem? What do you think could be 263 00:13:44,799 --> 00:13:47,200 in fruitcake? If we cause an issue? All right, and 264 00:13:47,799 --> 00:13:50,519 let's see if one is fairly astute. But to the 265 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,080 ingredients that are actually very very common in fruitcake, Number 266 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,519 one is going to be raisins and number two currents 267 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,759 c U R R A N. 268 00:14:00,919 --> 00:14:04,159 Speaker 3: And the reason is that currants believe it or not. 269 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: Well, obviously, anyone who knows currants are in the raisin family, 270 00:14:07,799 --> 00:14:11,759 so the toxic portion that nobody really knows exactly what 271 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,639 is of raisins and grapes are also in many of 272 00:14:14,639 --> 00:14:17,559 the currents, so that's something that we have to avoid. 273 00:14:17,759 --> 00:14:20,639 Another thing about fruitcake, And had I known this, I 274 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,240 probably would have eaten more of it or would eat 275 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:26,080 more of it. But a lot of fruitcake is lace 276 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,720 with alcohol, and boy I missed it because I'm not 277 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,960 a big fan of fruitcake, but I don't mind the alcohol. 278 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,559 So I'm thinking, oh my god, I know that maybe 279 00:14:33,559 --> 00:14:35,080 it would have made it taste better. 280 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,519 Speaker 3: I don't know. I just think it tastes that good. 281 00:14:37,559 --> 00:14:42,039 Speaker 2: But anyway, and alcohol onknown, I understand this not cooked alcohol. 282 00:14:42,039 --> 00:14:44,000 If you are adding like rum cake, and you're adding 283 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,720 rum to the mix and you're baking it, then you 284 00:14:46,759 --> 00:14:51,159 are baking away the alcohol, keeping the rum taste, which 285 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,919 is why people like rum cake. But a lot of 286 00:14:53,919 --> 00:14:56,120 these rum cakes, a lot of these fruitcakes that have 287 00:14:56,159 --> 00:14:59,879 alkaline them are also either dipped or laced in the 288 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,840 hopping with alcohol, which is probably why they're so popular 289 00:15:03,879 --> 00:15:06,679 because it's not necessarily because the taste, but anyway my opinion, 290 00:15:06,679 --> 00:15:11,519 of course, but alcohol can cause toxicity in dogs and cats. 291 00:15:11,679 --> 00:15:15,519 It could cause well, first of all, hypoglycemia, low blood sugar. 292 00:15:15,639 --> 00:15:18,480 It can also cause a taxi. A taxia is sort 293 00:15:18,519 --> 00:15:21,879 of like like a weakness, a wobbly. When dogs are 294 00:15:21,879 --> 00:15:25,440 a taxic, one of the ways to characterize them is 295 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,679 they look like they're drunk, and sure enough, when they 296 00:15:27,759 --> 00:15:32,000 drink alcohol, they are respiratory distress, hypo or it's just 297 00:15:32,039 --> 00:15:35,360 say bradycardia, which is a slow heart rate. So really, 298 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,039 as you're listening to these symptoms respiratory distress, slow heart rate, 299 00:15:39,279 --> 00:15:42,759 low blood sugar, a taxia, which is weakness, wobbliness, and 300 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,799 you're talking about a drunk, you're talking about just like 301 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,320 a person who is drunk. This you know, when I 302 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,879 was reading and researching all these the symptoms and the 303 00:15:50,919 --> 00:15:53,600 problems and the fact that it's real, I have to 304 00:15:53,679 --> 00:15:56,480 laugh because obviously I those of you listening know that 305 00:15:56,519 --> 00:15:58,200 I want to be a vet ever since I was 306 00:15:58,279 --> 00:15:59,080 probably five. 307 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: So for me, all of all the high. 308 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: School graduation presents that might get someone excited, the one 309 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:08,039 that got me excited the most was my very own labrador, 310 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,519 and I had a labrador tree for His name was Thor, 311 00:16:11,919 --> 00:16:13,840 and Tho his big black lab He was actually a 312 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,279 magnificent lab and he was my high school graduation president, 313 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,360 so of course he came to college with me. 314 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,559 Speaker 3: Now I went to Berkeley. 315 00:16:20,759 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: This is going back to the early seventies, and you 316 00:16:22,759 --> 00:16:25,559 can kind of imagine the tone of Berkeley in the 317 00:16:25,559 --> 00:16:28,360 early seventies. I don't think the professors were much better 318 00:16:28,399 --> 00:16:32,159 off in many ways than the kids, the students. And 319 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,679 by better off, I mean, you know, maybe. 320 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:35,279 Speaker 3: Sober, if you will. 321 00:16:35,559 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: So, I don't think they even knew or maybe even 322 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,559 cared that Grover would come to class with me. 323 00:16:40,639 --> 00:16:41,399 Speaker 3: Almost every day. 324 00:16:41,559 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: He would sit in these big lecture halls and he 325 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,519 would come in with me, sit up my feet, didn't 326 00:16:45,519 --> 00:16:48,000 bother anybody, and he sort of became, I don't know, 327 00:16:48,159 --> 00:16:50,960 like my little mascot. Well, one day we were having 328 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,879 a there was a fraternity party going around near where 329 00:16:53,919 --> 00:16:56,440 I was, and I had an apartment nearby, and I 330 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,399 was friends with some of these guys. And you know, 331 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,480 Thor being a big Labrador and was obviously very social 332 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,000 and very friendly, and everybody knew him and loved him. 333 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,240 So all of a sudden I'm hearing a bunch of commotion, 334 00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:08,240 you know, about maybe fifteen feet away from me. 335 00:17:08,279 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 3: So I go over to here see what the heck 336 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:10,240 is going on. 337 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,839 Speaker 2: And one of the guys was holding his beer down 338 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,799 sort of little low. He was talking to somebody, and 339 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:17,279 his beer was in his hand and his hand was 340 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:19,400 sort of extended, and all of a sudden he felt 341 00:17:19,559 --> 00:17:21,920 a lot of like slobbering and dripping. 342 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:22,079 Speaker 3: On his hand. 343 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,039 Speaker 2: So he looks down and there was Thor helping himself 344 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,759 to this guy's beer. Well, instead of just lifting his 345 00:17:27,759 --> 00:17:30,160 beer away and saying, hey, Thor, cut it out, he said, 346 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,680 oh my god, this is hysterical. This dog loves beer. 347 00:17:32,759 --> 00:17:35,319 So before you know it, all these guys were offering 348 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,720 Thor their beers. And if I tell you, Thor got drunk. 349 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,079 He could not walk a straight line. So now, firsthand 350 00:17:43,279 --> 00:17:46,559 I can tell you what the a taxia, the weakness 351 00:17:46,559 --> 00:17:50,839 and wobbliness of alcohol can do to a dog. Fortunately, 352 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:52,839 at one hundred and twenty pounds one hundred and ten 353 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,279 pounds he was huge. It wasn't enough to cause any 354 00:17:55,279 --> 00:17:58,039 major problems. Of course, I wouldn't let him do it again, 355 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,640 but interestingly, he want now I don't know. You know, 356 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,599 he's a labrador. Labrador says, you know, will eat anything 357 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,759 that's not bolted down or doesn't eat them first. 358 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,279 Speaker 3: But he loved beer. 359 00:18:10,319 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: Whatever I would have a beer, he always wanted beer. 360 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,720 And I don't know, not sure whether it was the taste, 361 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,039 which I can't imagine because I didn't even acquire a 362 00:18:18,039 --> 00:18:20,640 taste for beer until I was in college, or maybe 363 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,720 he just liked that feeling of being totally out of control, 364 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,279 but he was, and it was very cute at the time, 365 00:18:27,319 --> 00:18:31,799 of course, so that is a problem. So alcohol beware, raisins, 366 00:18:31,839 --> 00:18:36,599 currants and fruitcake beware. For cats, lilies beware, oh. 367 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:37,599 Speaker 3: And a lot of the other plants. 368 00:18:37,599 --> 00:18:39,519 Speaker 2: As I said, it's not that they're toxic, but they 369 00:18:39,519 --> 00:18:41,319 can cause some gastric irritation. 370 00:18:41,559 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 3: But I want to talk about a few other things. Thanksgiving. 371 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: There are a lot of desserts out there, and there's 372 00:18:46,759 --> 00:18:49,960 a lot of fatty food. And the stuffing could be fatty. 373 00:18:50,279 --> 00:18:54,400 If there's ham could be fatty, dark meat, turkey could 374 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,119 be fatty, turkey skin could be fatty, and of course 375 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:58,920 the fixings. 376 00:18:59,160 --> 00:18:59,799 Speaker 3: The desserts. 377 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 2: We'd already talked about fruitcake, but even chocolate can be 378 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,880 a problem. Again, they'd have to eat a whole lot, 379 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,920 but it still can be a problem. And then another 380 00:19:07,079 --> 00:19:09,759 complicated we have this year is that as of the 381 00:19:09,799 --> 00:19:13,119 twenty eighth, which is Thursday starting Wednesday night is also 382 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,720 the holiday of Hanukkah, and two favorite foods for that 383 00:19:16,839 --> 00:19:22,640 holiday are potato pancakes fried and doughnuts fried. Do not 384 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,599 let your dogs eat this fried food, eating this fatty 385 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,319 fried foods, eating nuts, eating the skin the dark meat, 386 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,960 anything that's too much fat can cause some pancreatitis. 387 00:19:35,279 --> 00:19:36,519 Speaker 3: Now, what do we do? 388 00:19:36,759 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: What can we give our dogs to keep them away 389 00:19:39,319 --> 00:19:43,119 from our table and happy? Well, for one thing, anything 390 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,039 that they like that occupies their time. I mean, if 391 00:19:46,079 --> 00:19:49,200 they love eating like those rawhide shoes that take a 392 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,160 while to get through, as long as they're not made 393 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,079 in China. If they like bully sticks, again, as long 394 00:19:54,079 --> 00:19:56,079 as they they're made here in the US and they're 395 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,240 used to them, then maybe let them for as everyone's 396 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,559 sitting down, give them their old, big fat, nice bully 397 00:20:03,599 --> 00:20:06,720 stick or raw high chew and let them just enjoy 398 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,759 marrow bones. Marrow bones, to me, I'm not a big 399 00:20:09,799 --> 00:20:13,720 fan because marrow also like the other fatty foods we 400 00:20:13,799 --> 00:20:17,640 talked about do have a pretty high fat content, and 401 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,960 when it comes to things like that, I worry about 402 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,200 them eating it. And it's good, so they're going to 403 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,880 try to eat it, but I worry about pancreatitis as well. 404 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,400 And the last thing you want to ruin your wonderful 405 00:20:28,759 --> 00:20:33,680 family holiday time together is to have to rush your puking, 406 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:39,039 painful dog or cat to an emergency facility because they 407 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,519 ended up giving themselves pancreatitis by getting into the garbage, 408 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,440 getting into the remains of all that food, getting into 409 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,799 the turkey bones, turkey skin, dark meat, turkey ham, potato pancakes, 410 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,440 you name it. We gotta be careful. So just I 411 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,440 hope that gives you plenty of information to know what 412 00:20:56,519 --> 00:20:59,559 to beware of, what to watch for, and what to allow. 413 00:20:59,599 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: So here we are. 414 00:21:01,039 --> 00:21:03,599 Speaker 2: It's been We have three or four minutes left. No 415 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,359 one has called in, and I want an answer from 416 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,279 you as to whether why do dogs eat grass? And 417 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,759 no one's called in, and you're gonna force me. The 418 00:21:12,799 --> 00:21:15,400 truth is, nobody knows for sure, but I have my 419 00:21:15,559 --> 00:21:17,200 theory and I'm gonna have to give it to you 420 00:21:17,279 --> 00:21:18,880 unless somebody calls it really fast. 421 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 3: But here's my theory that. 422 00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:26,599 Speaker 2: Dogs aren't smart enough to avoid something if it causes 423 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,920 the undue reaction, in this case, vomiting after about fifteen 424 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,559 to twenty minutes. If they eat something that causes immediate 425 00:21:34,599 --> 00:21:38,079 vomiting within five to ten minutes, then that can suffice. 426 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 3: That's what we call avoidance therapy. 427 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: So they get something that makes them vomit fairly quickly, 428 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,119 fairly soon after ingestion. Most likely, most often they will 429 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,359 not go back to it. But for any of you 430 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,359 that have had dogs that have eaten grass and vomit 431 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,319 from it, guess what they go back. So it's unlikely 432 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,960 that they sense that they're doing it for the purpose 433 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,640 of making them vomit. So why do they eat it? Well, 434 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,079 I think they eat it for a number of reasons. 435 00:22:04,079 --> 00:22:06,680 First of all, an interview you shoot on blaze of grass. 436 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,200 It's kind of sweet. Chlorophyll has a naturally sweet taste, 437 00:22:10,319 --> 00:22:13,799 and I do believe that it does create a soothing 438 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,880 effect to them if they have in fact some sort 439 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,279 of gastro and to write as a gastric irritation. 440 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 3: So I think they like the moisture. 441 00:22:21,559 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 2: I think they like the sweetness, they like the taste 442 00:22:24,079 --> 00:22:26,319 and they don't realize that a half hour later, or 443 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,759 sometimes more, maybe sometimes a little less, that same thing 444 00:22:28,839 --> 00:22:30,000 they just ingested. 445 00:22:29,759 --> 00:22:31,839 Speaker 3: For the good reasons is going to make them vomit. 446 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,920 So that's my take. I'd love to hear yours. 447 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: If any behaviors are out there, or if anyone has 448 00:22:36,599 --> 00:22:40,039 actually studied this and can show me proof, I'd like 449 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,799 to see it. But until then, I'm going with my theory, 450 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,799 which is they do it because they like it, it's sweet, 451 00:22:46,079 --> 00:22:48,079 and it's going to make them melton. In many cases 452 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,680 WI make a vomit, It's not gonna make a vomit 453 00:22:49,759 --> 00:22:52,799 for quite a while anyway. This at Oh My God 454 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:55,160 one twenty nine for twenty nine feedback Keech brings us 455 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,759 to the end of another show. Once again, it was 456 00:22:57,759 --> 00:23:00,880 great being here. We will be here next week. 457 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 3: Now. 458 00:23:01,079 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 2: Next week is Thanksgiving, and unless something else like some 459 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,319 family function, gets Mark out of a studio, we will 460 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,240 be here to join you next week, and I'd love 461 00:23:12,319 --> 00:23:16,319 to hear some good Thanksgiving stories, anything that you want 462 00:23:16,319 --> 00:23:20,039 to share with us, anything for your pets. Let's just 463 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,640 go ahead and give us answers, so we will see 464 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,400 you next week, same time, one o'clock Pacific time, four 465 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,119 o'clock back in the East, have a I don't see 466 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,359 you or talk to you, and if you don't join 467 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,599 us next week, have a wonderful Thanksgiving, a wonderful conica 468 00:23:34,599 --> 00:23:37,880 if it applies, and we'll see an ANSW Thursday. 469 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:38,519 Speaker 3: Bye bye. 470 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: Let's Talk Pets every week on demand only on pet 471 00:23:43,319 --> 00:24:04,720 life radio dot com.