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Speaker 1: It's me, diar Way.

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Speaker 2: Who is this?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, it's me. It's amid the Ruins. It's

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a guy who makes dire Way of music. It's amid

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the Ruins.

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Speaker 1: Since sense.

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Speaker 3: Dire Way music music.

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Speaker 2: M M.

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Speaker 3: What I've talked about in you know, probably one hundred

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articles of Jays analysis is the implementation of the AI

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smart grip in the giant smart cities, which is what

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IBM talks about publicly building. And that's where we're going,

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and that's what I think we have to be really

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concerned about.

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Speaker 4: So all of these tensions, they.

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Speaker 3: Are kind of a long term strategy to basically get

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everybody moved into megacities. They'll be forced to they'll be

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forced off of land and so forth for an environmental

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reasons and basically concoct and invented environmental nonsense.

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Speaker 2: Then you'll be stuck in some hell a whole megacity

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in a.

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Speaker 3: Basically a carton size apartment, living over a target or something,

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or inside of the target or a Walmart. As I

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said several years ago, it's actually coming true.

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Speaker 2: Now there's a Shipagan city.

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Speaker 3: This is all part of the long term global strategies.

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But to get there, you've got to have the constant clash,

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the constant alchemical blending and mixing and smashing together right

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out of Manicheanism to produce the convergence, to produce the synthesis.

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And that's what's crucial in all this and what is

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absolutely true from an alchemical, esoteric, philosophical, and geopolitical perspective,

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the fact that the Ruin elite seek to be post human.

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Jason alsos dot com, you are not allowed. Girls are

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not welcome.

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Speaker 4: Welcome boys and girls and nerds.

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Speaker 3: Are you all little simple jacks tonight? Are you all

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little simple jacks? Do you have your Do you have

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your oval walls on?

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Speaker 5: Are you ready to play?

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Speaker 3: Are you ready? Because tonight's movies do feature simple jack.

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Speaker 4: We've got a treat for you, boys and girls.

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Speaker 3: Tonight we got lawn mower Man, Thirteenth Floor, gyanam On,

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even Sky Existence and Video Drone. So I'm a more

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and more Croninberg fan. I mean, I've seen many Croninberg

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movies over the year. Year over the year, over the

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year I've only I'm only one year old, over the

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year that I've been alive, and now I am more

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of a Cronberg fan because I enjoyed scanners. Do you

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remember when we watched scanners into that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, his head popped. That's what I remember about scanners.

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Speaker 3: You look nice to know I like you and blue.

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It's uncommon. Thank you. I look like I'm wearing a

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I'm either going to sleep in this boomer pajama shirt

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or I'm going to give you fifties gas self service.

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Better tip me. Greatest generation, I want more than a dime?

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Are you the greatest generation?

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Speaker 5: We are zennials. We are on the cusp of millennial

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and Gen X, a micro generation.

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Speaker 3: And even though I'm the creator, founder, copyright, trademark, owner

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of all the boomer jokes, I still get called a

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boomer all the time, which makes no sense. If you

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birth is a joke, you give birth to this joke,

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then you get and I don't have anything in common.

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Speaker 5: You become what you mock. Eventually.

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Speaker 3: The only thing I have in common with boomers is

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Florida and a tiny grill. But the tiny grill is

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like a homeless person grill. It's not even boomer bloomber grills.

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You know, you have there like they wed a ton

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and you wheel them around like a damn gurney.

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Speaker 5: Right, you do have some boomer slippers that you were in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the.

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Speaker 3: Feet sweat so I can't even really wear them. Yeah,

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that's a problem. Sweaty feet, clammy feet, clammed up feet. Uh,

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don't read the chat. They will distract you and they'll

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try to they'll try to play mind games, try to

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get in your head and play syops like the lawnmower man.

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Do you remember that he gets some people's heads. Oh yeah,

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he develops god powers because of because of evolution.

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Speaker 5: Evolution? Is that what you want to start with.

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Speaker 3: Well, we want to remind the people welcome everybody. And

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by the way, you can do super chats still through

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stream laves and that little gay zombie pops up doing

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the running man.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: So you please can still support your favorite content creators.

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I hate that phrase. This makes me sound like a

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freaking machine that spits out content. The content machine. Support

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your favorite content machine. I'm a content algorithm that just

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vomits it out for you. You're the little baby birds,

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the baby the baby maybe nerd birds, and I'm the

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mama that choose up the content and vomits it up

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into the baby nerd mouth, baby nerd bird okay jokes.

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Speaker 5: No, that was like Alex Shoon's level, like weird and gross.

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Speaker 3: That's what my mind does. I go through these, you know,

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like improv style stream of consciousness things. That's what's that's

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what's fun.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Some of the people in the chat are actively presently

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engaged in four simultaneous sy offs on us at one time.

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What are we doing? What are we starting with? We're

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gonna start with not that that's the popular one. We're

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gonna do the less popular ones first. Uh, We're gonna

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do thirteenth Floor and Dyannemonic pick one.

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Speaker 5: I liked thirteenth Floor. Let's start with that one because

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I was surprised that I liked it more than Dark City.

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and the Truman Show.

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Speaker 3: In the in the Matrix. Now we're intentionally not doing

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the Matrix because I mean, everybody hiss that. Come on,

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it's time to do the other eighties and nineties virtual

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worlds Internet right that what's coming is gonna be so badass, dude,

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the Net. We're gonna be surfing the net and it's

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gonna make everybody smart and everybody's gonna be cool, and

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there's gonna be Napster and LimeWire. You could download a

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song and it takes like three days to get one

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MP three and you can leave it running all night, bro,

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and you'll have your favorite Enigma song. We turn to

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its hands, as long as you're willing to let that

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damn napster run all night on your on your twenty

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four fifty six k motum.

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Speaker 5: Bro with your oh one of these had oh, that's

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Johnny and Monic. Because data storage was super tiny.

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Speaker 3: Yes in the future, when they download things into your brain,

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they apparently didn't consider the fact that like five gigabytes

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Speaker 4: Because or perhaps Keanu really doesn't have a lot of.

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Speaker 5: It has eighty gigs of them?

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Speaker 4: Are we doing joining to Monaco?

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Speaker 5: Let's see thirty four first, because I liked it so

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the year, but.

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Speaker 3: Actually the eight gigabytes is better than what is in

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lawnmower Man, because in lawnmower Man, Pierce Brosman thinks three

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megabytes is a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you go ahead.

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Speaker 5: The year is twenty.

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Speaker 3: Year, twenty twenty four, but the.

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Speaker 5: Movie was made in nineteen ninety nine, so in nineteen

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ninety nine they thought in twenty twenty four four years

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from today, that we would have these kinds.

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Speaker 3: Of technology, go landa pod and you get to be

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a god of your own world.

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Speaker 5: Well, it starts out with I think therefore I am,

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Speaker 3: Well, the movie is just kind of I mean, there

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is a gnostic ish theme to the movie, so it's

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kind of hearkening to the idea that, Well, dude, like

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what if reality is virtual? You know, like it's all

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just my mind projecting reality and we think the computers

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are like going to give us an insight into virtual reality.

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Speaker 4: It's like that's a simulation theory, isn't that.

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Speaker 5: Part of this the New age science club people they

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talk about everything's just a hologram.

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Speaker 3: I was in chess club.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, like the guy of uh.

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Speaker 3: Spirit, I know, but I'm making there. I was really

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in chess club, not science club.

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Speaker 5: That's cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we never played We never played chess. We

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just went to be we got out of class and

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then I stood in the front of chess club for

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the yearbook picture. I never played chess once.

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Speaker 5: I like chess.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, we was scamming.

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Speaker 5: This movie is based on a book called Simulate. Come three,

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Speaker 3: Right now, and we got to go a little faster

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Speaker 5: Okay, but open scene he's cheating on matrix wife with

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matrix prostitutes. Is the guy who made this entire world

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phenomenal cosmic powers is really cheating? I think?

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Speaker 3: So if the real the actual wife is also not actual,

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then how can you cheat on something that's not real?

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Speaker 5: Didn't he have a real wife and.

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Speaker 3: The real Well, you just ruined the movie.

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Speaker 5: He's cheating on his matrix wife with matrix The future sucks.

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Speaker 3: Usually in dystopian they have to will be very good dystopia.

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It was like a badass.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why they have to escape into virtual rally

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because reality bites. What is that movie surrogates? Yeah, let's see,

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fully formed cyber beings are sims or units and PCs.

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even better than reality actually, and so it's full of

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NPC units, right, just like Inception.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good analogy to Inception.

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Speaker 5: What I liked about this movie was that one of

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the worlds was set in Los Angeles in nineteen thirty seven,

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which I think is a cool time and place.

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Speaker 3: It's a in sci fi noir. This is in the

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nineties when Neo NOA is still popular.

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Speaker 5: Is this the one that had the Blade Runner apartment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of throwbacks of Board Runner in this movie.

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Speaker 5: So there's talk about transferring consciousness into the matrix. Every

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character has a double or an avatar. Right, Let's see

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the sims are missing time when they're not occupied. Do

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to where the people kind of pass out, and then

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other consciousness invades different NPCs consciousnesses and so there's like

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reality was actually just alternate realities and they all kind

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of coincide, and like altars are just people in other

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you know, multiverses or.

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Speaker 5: Whatever, Like you're just an avatar for an alien or

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angel or a.

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Speaker 3: Demon or some kind of Yeah, we're doing Thirteenth Floor

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the nineteen ninety eight.

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Speaker 5: From Thirteenth Floor, which I thought it was better than

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I thought it was going to be because I'd never

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heard of it. Let's see, sims are men, sims have rights.

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Speaker 3: In the movie seems to mean, I mean the vegans,

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the vegans vegans in Australia they say kids, I mean

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seems I mean, it.

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Speaker 5: Seems a meaning ting. So there's this question if a

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sim has thoughts and feelings and actions and will and

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agency in a virtual world, does it have rights? Is

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that's going to be something that we have to think

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Speaker 3: I mean, they probably will start saying that AI augmented

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reality beings somehow have rights because that would help promote

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transhumanism and AI and all that. So probably, I mean,

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it all be a bunch of fraud, but there's no

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limits to the fraudy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So one of the reveals in the movie is

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that it's very much like The Truman Show or and

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they have a flat Earth because it's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you come to the end of the you know,

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thirty seven La Hollywood, It just comes to an end

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and then it's likes and retro scent wave background.

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Speaker 5: Basically just unfair.

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Speaker 4: But you come to your screens, your retrowave screensaver at

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and then go to your retroave. The Kristen Wi the

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Speaker 5: Let's see what else retrowave matrix inception. That's it, knoxtick

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trickster Demiurge.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So the old guy who's the blind, fumbling creator

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deity of this matrix world, he's forgotten and I don't

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forget what he is, but he he doesn't know what's

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the the bad guy is not your typical bag. I

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not the bad guy that you think. Let's go in

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an interesting direction. I don't know why this movie is

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bombed by the critics. It's not a bad movie. Maybe

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people felt it was too similar to the Matrix one year.

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other ways. So it's not a bad movie. So I'm

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seems to like it. It's usually about a seventy seven

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out of ten from the audiences, and then you know, yeah,

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critics are like, screw this.

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Speaker 5: So what I thought was interesting about this was that

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the whole virtual world was built around just satisfying your vices. Gambling.

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VR stuffy, Yeah, exactly, So.

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Speaker 5: Don't harm your body with real vices. Just go into

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the virtual world and you can gamble and have sex

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and all that other.

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but I mean I've already covered done multiple videos on

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Blade Runner and the Matrix, so we wanted to do

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the ones that aren't always talked about, right, So you know,

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some of these are still fairly you know, big movies

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with al Sky or whatever, and they were fun too.

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Speaker 5: This one was a really fun batch, don't you think. Yeah? Ye,

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so spoiler alert can we say that ahead?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: One of the secrets that you find out is that

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the virtual world is inside the virtual world. So it's

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like if you had a video game the Sims, and

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the Sims made the video game the Sims in their world.

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That's what. Yes, it's fair.

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Speaker 3: Some little shee yeah.

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Speaker 5: Shade archetype shadow self so the.

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Speaker 3: Bad guy, the good guys.

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Speaker 5: The bad guy, yeah, in another world, another reality, his

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higher self. Yes, so he's the real DeMier. It's not

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the old man exactly right, that's what you find out.

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And she's Sofia. Does somebody in here's named Sofia?

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Speaker 2: Actually?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? But if you die in the game, you die in.

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Speaker 3: Rel that's in existence.

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Speaker 3: But in thirteenth floor, the thirteenth floor is that missing dimension.

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and there is the Nosta. There is a gnostic mythology

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to this because this whole time he's searching for Gretchen

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Mall and she ends up being his Sofia principle that

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you know, heals him or whatever and things can return

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to to normal. They have a happy ending when they

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solve the matrix puzzle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Again, I didn't like the year twenty four to twenty four,

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the real, real, real reality twenty four in the movie.

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I thought it looked kind of that's.

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Speaker 3: Not the reality.

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Speaker 5: That's No. At the very end, when they're at the beach.

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Speaker 3: The layer is still a layer of the matrix.

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Speaker 4: Really, or is he the good consciousness in the regular guy?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's the that's right.

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Speaker 5: Will it look like that four years from now.

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Speaker 3: There's like glistening you know, Space City in twenty twenty four. Yeah,

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and it looks like you know, dump like just as

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much as it did in nineteen ninety eight, ninety nine.

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Speaker 4: All right, what's next? John Namonic?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, so John, thank you for the super chat.

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We will get to those in a minute.

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Speaker 5: Johnny Mnemonic, nineteen ninety five, excellent. Corporation's rule is the

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first note we got so everything.

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Speaker 4: That's the note for every dystopian movie.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but they also rule man like, they're so cool,

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like you can do cool things with your mind in

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the computer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so the corporations give you a well in this

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in this dystopia, I think this is set.

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Speaker 5: In twenty twenty one, so that's next year. Yeah, next year,

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Keanu Reeves will have eighty gigabytes of memory, so a

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little bit bigger than iPod first first.

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Speaker 3: No, first generation iPod had more than that, didn't it.

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Speaker 5: Okay, the first video the first video generation I thought

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I had was sixteen. So there's a new plague called

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nerve attenuation syndrome.

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Speaker 3: This is interesting because this movie does have some elements

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in it that are pretty revelatory. There wasn't really much

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in Thirteenth Flour that was revelatory and like a predicted

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programming since, but John Monic does have that because we

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find out that the the sickness that people are getting

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everywhere is due to the over abundance of frequencies. Yeah,

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there's all these frequencies everywhere. Yeah, and it's basically it's

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basically messing people up. And so that's the dilemma that

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Kinko has to solve at the end. But anyway, this

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is a William Gibson novel, So that's why this has

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some of the element because he wrote Neuromancer, which has

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some of these same kind of predictive stuff, and it

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has a matrix in it that's a neuromancer. So we

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know that William Gibson's going to give us something predictive.

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Speaker 5: There's a new class of people called the low text

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remember that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, these are the revolution there's always a revolutionary in

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every one of these dystopian movies.

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Speaker 5: So the low texts don't want to merge with the machine.

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but they ironically have a giant computer system, so it's

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like they use technology. They're not they're not really they're

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like Amish or they're like the Mennonites, right, yeah, the

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the Mennonitees will you know, use the bank and the

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card and Amish are like, we don't use zippers because

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they're from Satan.

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Speaker 5: They use the word info wars. So there's some kind

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of battle going.

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Speaker 3: On, right, So there's all kinds of information warfare is

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brought up in this I lost the place in the

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notes chips Klaus might stored Oh they talk about storing

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data in humans and Klaus, as we've talked about in

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the Fourth and Dusty Revolution analysis, Klaus mentions that in

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his book he says it in the future, we might

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store data in DNA.

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Speaker 4: That's what this movie is about.

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Speaker 3: And Kinko Reeve is actually a spy. He's a data

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courier spy person and he's called Agent Smith and he's

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dressed up like Agent Smith in The Matrix, which is

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odd because it's only three years later that he will

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play Neo.

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Speaker 5: So the low text live in City Corps New Darwin

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in Wake Up Call Oh, so Darwin is a hero

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neo Darwinian, Yeah, Darwinian, but he's at the New Darwin

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Inn when he gets a wake up call. And then

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there's Skype. Remember every future movie has a dimension.

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Speaker 3: Version of Skype, you know, that's always but and they

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act like everybody's going to call everybody for every call

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on Skype, and nobody does that. That's what they got wrong.

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Speaker 4: Skype is for interviews and that's it.

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Speaker 3: Everybody texts everybody there, nobody's skypes FaceTime.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of interesting things going on in the

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background of the world in this movie, like China. There's

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like riots in China and Beijing over that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very much a Blade Runner kind of future,

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but not very good special effects. So it looks like,

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I mean, once again they're throwing back to Blade Runner

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and he mentions that the he has to fight the Yukuza.

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They've been hired by the Big Corporation whatever, the Big

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Mega corp. And every dystopian movie is so that it

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was interesting that they have this kind of you know,

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spy element to it, and it makes it I've not

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yet read William Gibson. So it makes me really want

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to get into Neuromancer because I'm sure it has a

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lot of predictive stuff in it. But thank you for

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those super chats there, Finian, and we'll get to those

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here in a minute.

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Speaker 5: Twin girls, I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 3: Maybe there's some maybe I was thinking of, like the astrological,

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just like in cubric the Twins astrology.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, so he only has eighty gigs and

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then he has to get an upgrade and he gets

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one hundred and sixty gigs. Man, but it's not enough.

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He's mister Smith. You said that Keanu has a rebel tooth,

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just like you. So there's a close up of his

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teeth and you can see on the bottom just like

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Jay Kanu.

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Speaker 3: Has seventeen seventy six in my mouth.

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Speaker 2: Right now.

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Speaker 3: There's a revolution going on in the underground. The above

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ground are elite, they're perfect, and the underground there's a

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revolution to overthrow the the upper class.

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Speaker 5: Comic book characters, anime battle scenes. I don't remember that

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the web serves you. So, yeah, he's got the whole

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Speaker 3: A scene where it switched to anime?

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Speaker 5: I think he was watching that.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, well that's predictive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they will.

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Speaker 4: Be looking in the future and anime taking over doing.

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Speaker 5: The Yukuza thing too, so that's why they have that.

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So they download all this crap into his head, but

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he only has dial up and he can't take it.

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So he's gonna die man if he doesn't like get

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his information.

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Speaker 3: So they figured all this amazing stuff out in the future,

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but they're basically using you know, like you said, first

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generation iPod storage level and the upload download speed is

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like dial up level, so it doesn't work too good

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in Kinko's head.

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Speaker 5: The Free City of Newark is like can you say those? Yeah,

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so they have a no technology zone. Yeah, the load

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text and.

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Speaker 3: It looks like Chaz Chop.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all burnt out. Yeah, it's really bad, and it's.

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Speaker 4: Run by Iced Tea.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Iced.

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Speaker 5: Tea, let's see with oh, because without the Internet, we'd

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all live in boxes like hobos. Right, No, that's what

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they're trying to show without technology.

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Speaker 3: But this movie is it's against the Internet.

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Speaker 5: That's what the low text like live like rats in

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the sewer.

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Speaker 3: And so we need because they're oppressed. Though but by

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the Corporation Inc. Corporation in Corporate Corporation Inc. Always oppressed.

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That's why, that's why they're fighting against it with the

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dolphin power. Remember, yes, we'll.

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Speaker 5: Get to that, are we We're not there yet, No

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chop Renaissance off Apocalypse.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Henry Rollins is in this by the way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as a doctor.

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Speaker 5: And it's so steampunk like their look and.

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Speaker 3: Everything the well that was nineties. Remember a tank girl?

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What's her face?

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Speaker 5: I know you're doing about Petty Lory Petty.

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Speaker 3: She went from point brank, point break to tank girl

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and then what.

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Speaker 5: And then what?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: No, she was on Orange is the New Black.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so let's see his.

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Speaker 5: Brain can't hold all the memes and the nineties gifts.

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Speaker 3: Yes, dancing Baby gift basically shorts circuits Kinko's mind.

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Speaker 5: Oh, he had to erase his childhood to hold all

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the data. That was interesting.

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Speaker 3: Dump that recycled, ben, dude, we got to fit some

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more memes in here.

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Speaker 5: There's an eye in the pyramid when he goes online.

472
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,799
Speaker 3: Yes, so we see illuminate confirm does actually show up

473
00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:43,759
and it's not it's this, it's an intentional illuminate confirm here,

474
00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:48,839
so the Internet is you know, illuminate confirm and also

475
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:54,079
in hackers when he first hacks at the beginning, they're

476
00:29:54,119 --> 00:29:57,359
talking about illuminate confirm and the nWo and you see

477
00:29:57,359 --> 00:30:00,359
the all sing on it, So it was it is

478
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:05,319
interesting that they have intentionally placed the all singular let's.

479
00:30:05,119 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 5: See pharmaicom data in his head. So that's one of

480
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,079
the interesting things about this.

481
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 3: Is what is.

482
00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:21,039
Speaker 5: The pharmaceutical industry is wrapped up in this Yakuza data

483
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:26,200
dump that Keanu has to curry in his DNA, right, Yeah, because.

484
00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 3: They have the cure to nash and they want to

485
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,119
gain the system, get everybody six so that you have

486
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,960
to get the cure. Where have we heard of this before?

487
00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:39,759
Speaker 5: Oh, there's the Church of the Retransfiguration member.

488
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:44,359
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, Dolph Lundgren plays imagine Dolph Lundgren dressed up

489
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:49,599
as Jesus, dressed up as Francis of Assisi, as a

490
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,279
as a super soldier assassin. So yes, Dolph Lundren is

491
00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:57,359
literally playing a super soldier as France of Assisi as Jesus,

492
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,599
and he's ahead of a cult.

493
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:03,079
Speaker 5: Oh and then if you get this neurological disease, this

494
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,240
nerve attenuation syndrome. They call it the black Shakes. That

495
00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:08,440
was kind of weird because.

496
00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 3: Well, didn't they spit out goo or something something black?

497
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 5: I think they did have the foaming.

498
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,799
Speaker 3: So technology Wi Fi is poisoning.

499
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 5: It's poisoning people. Yeah, Pharmacom has again.

500
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: And Pharmacom, who is behind this poisoning, has a cure.

501
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, William Gibson story is that the author?

502
00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just said that like five times.

503
00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:30,039
Speaker 5: Deep fake?

504
00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:33,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there was some kind of a version

505
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,359
of a deep fake in the movie at some point,

506
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,240
which is again way ahead of its time. I don't

507
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,279
remember what it was, but.

508
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:42,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh there was one. Yeah, what was it? I

509
00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:44,039
don't I know what's trying about, but I don't remember.

510
00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: What it was.

511
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,359
Speaker 3: I know that in my heart there will never be

512
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,319
a fake Kiano Reache because he is a deep reality

513
00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:51,359
for me. There's no deep faking Kinko.

514
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 5: You can't fake that.

515
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,599
Speaker 4: He's true love. It's true love.

516
00:31:56,599 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 5: Johnny has a breakdown because he wants his ten DS

517
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,160
luxuries of Oh, he doesn't want to join the Ludites

518
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:10,079
because he has too much luxury in the virtual reality.

519
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kinko has a spurgout because he wants his chicken.

520
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,880
Are they virtual attend are they?

521
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, like if you live in the technological world,

522
00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:27,039
it's half and half, so you know your creature comforts

523
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:29,400
and then you can have whatever you want to VR.

524
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

525
00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:35,559
Speaker 5: Can you get like infinite tends in the r Why

526
00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:38,680
are they fighting technology by being steampunk? Get the word?

527
00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 4: It's just an older version of tech.

528
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:44,039
Speaker 3: They're like they're anti at tech, another they're low tech. Yeah,

529
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,160
I guess steampunk.

530
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 5: Even though we draw the line at Ai Man, we

531
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:57,000
just like machine except four. There's the robo dolphin your favorite.

532
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,000
Does this remind you?

533
00:33:00,359 --> 00:33:04,839
Speaker 3: And he beats Dolphin Lundren? That was mind Joe, I

534
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:05,720
want credit for that.

535
00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:07,359
Speaker 5: What does that remind you of the dolphin?

536
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,839
Speaker 3: They reminded me of Dolphin Lungren? What do you mean what.

537
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 5: You did a show about the book that John?

538
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:15,759
Speaker 2: Oh?

539
00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it is like John C. Lily.

540
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,119
Speaker 4: I was like, why do they put this stupid dolphin

541
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:19,440
in there?

542
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,559
Speaker 3: And then because the dolphin is working with the low

543
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:27,240
text to beat the corporation that has sent dolphin Dolphin

544
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:32,519
Lundren as an assassin, and so the dolphin sends out

545
00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:35,039
a signal and it like knocks out dolphin.

546
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 5: It's because of his what do you call it a

547
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,440
whole location? Yeah, yeah, his sonar.

548
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

549
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 5: So they hook up a dolphin the Internet and the

550
00:33:44,759 --> 00:33:49,559
dolphin has dolphin dial up. Oh and his name is Jones.

551
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,640
The dolphin's name is Jones.

552
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a dolphin Jones who's fighting fight.

553
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 5: Sonar killed Dolph. The dolphin can take you into the data.

554
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: Well, it is a it is a brain interface where

555
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:08,320
that's where Keanu has to jack in, which is all

556
00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:10,079
like what you'll see in the matrix in a couple

557
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:14,159
of years. But when he jack's in, he has to

558
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:17,199
get the dolphin to help guide him into the matrix, remember,

559
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,719
and it's all like max headroom looking matrix.

560
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 4: And but the point is that John C.

561
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 3: Lily was studying dolphins for brain computer chip interfaces.

562
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 4: So that's the only reason.

563
00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 3: I could think of why William Gibson would have I

564
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,960
don't even know if you put this this stupid dolphin

565
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,920
thing in the book. But when you watch the movie,

566
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,320
it's just like what and the dolphin can send the

567
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,320
signal out of his head.

568
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: I mean, the.

569
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 3: Dolphin has to open his third eye I and he

570
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,639
can fight. That's the only way a dolphin could beat dolphin.

571
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 5: Lungern right, yep, that's the end.

572
00:34:54,880 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 3: Dolphin dial up? What is that? What's your last?

573
00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 5: Lady? Trapped? Or AI? Was there like a cliffhanger? Do

574
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:05,360
you remember?

575
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: I don't remember? Anyway, I had fun? How many? How many?

576
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,760
How many dolphin lungdrens do you give? Giant the moment?

577
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:17,079
Speaker 5: Seven?

578
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 3: Seven? This movie is not that good.

579
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 5: But I had fun though, so it bumps it up.

580
00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:24,679
Speaker 3: No, as a movie, not how much fun movie?

581
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,119
Speaker 5: Six?

582
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,159
Speaker 3: This movie is at best of five?

583
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,639
Speaker 5: Come on, five dolphins for you?

584
00:35:33,559 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: Wasn't to get that stickball out of here? Stupid ass movie?

585
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,639
I mean it was funny.

586
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:40,679
Speaker 5: Vanilla Sky or videos?

587
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,559
Speaker 3: Are you missing one? Lawnmore manor we just did that?

588
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:49,960
We haven't done, we haven't Where are you at all?

589
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:50,199
Speaker 2: Right?

590
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 5: This is your favorite of the thing?

591
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 3: No? No, the best movie of these, arguably is video Drum. Okay,

592
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:05,159
what's that up there? We already do? Oh yeah, that's

593
00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:09,000
pretty good though. Anyway, pick one to go next.

594
00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 5: Let's go law more.

595
00:36:11,559 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, dude, let me warn you because lawnmower Man Okay,

596
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,639
I haven't seen it since the nineties. Law more Man,

597
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,519
it is pure comedy. If you go into this movie

598
00:36:26,559 --> 00:36:29,719
looking for anything other why are you drinking younger coffee?

599
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:34,840
What are you doing? Do you want a water coffee?

600
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:43,199
This movie is it's Retarto, like its central character is

601
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,840
s Retarta. So yeah, I mean, we think of the

602
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:55,840
history of slow characters, and we think of the local bots,

603
00:36:54,800 --> 00:37:02,320
and we get we get for like make check. I

604
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,519
hate Forrest Gump. That's one of my all time most

605
00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:11,000
hated movies. Never like Tom Hanks's face. Always disliked his face,

606
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:18,400
Radio Radio Cuba, Getting Junior playing a blessed slow boy,

607
00:37:18,679 --> 00:37:24,679
Sleep with Billy Bob is a blessed slow boy. And

608
00:37:26,039 --> 00:37:29,519
there was one more I had, simple Jack, simple Jack,

609
00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:32,079
But yeah, whatever, he doesn't really count, but we'll count

610
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:37,000
oh flowers for Aldren. So let's start with this. This

611
00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:41,239
is nineteen ninety two. Yeah, it's a Steve King story.

612
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,079
I've not read this dumb thing. I don't know. Every

613
00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:46,400
time it's a Steve King story, I was like, it's

614
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,239
nothing like the book. I don't know whatever. I mean.

615
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:54,159
I read three Stephen King books and I mean, well

616
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:58,639
we did that, didn't we do a talk on the stand.

617
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,159
It was like the book pretty much, But I haven't

618
00:38:03,199 --> 00:38:04,480
read any of these other ones. So I don't know,

619
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:05,679
lawmore Man.

620
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:08,599
Speaker 5: It's like books are really way worse, and they took

621
00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:11,800
out the horrible horrible.

622
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 4: Did you read it or any of those?

623
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 5: No, because I heard it was really bad. The book

624
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:23,280
is bad as in like de yeah, like way worse

625
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,480
than movie. But so Stephen King took his name off

626
00:38:26,519 --> 00:38:27,880
of this. It was so bad.

627
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:33,079
Speaker 3: Really, I think I thought it was a hit. I

628
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:35,920
don't know. Let me you start talking it started, let

629
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,280
me see if it was a hit. I don't remember.

630
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:43,039
Speaker 5: Virtual Space Industries right, And they had the monkey in

631
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:48,400
the mind wiper in that carnival ride the gyroscope, So

632
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,000
they have the monkey in the vomit machine like he's

633
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,280
going to eat too many hot dogs.

634
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 3: Well, remember we did Fortress and when they wipe Christopher

635
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,079
Lambert's mind, ye call it the mind wiper. And it

636
00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:01,840
just happens to be the stupid ass ride from the circus,

637
00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:04,920
the carnival ride where you spin around and get your

638
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,320
ass dizzy to throw up. It's just to sell you

639
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,480
that you can throw up the funnel cakes.

640
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:13,519
Speaker 5: So they have a monkey in there. I think that's yes,

641
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,280
is what Michael Jackson's monkey bubbles. Remember that that's.

642
00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:22,599
Speaker 3: Not you should lie to the audience.

643
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 5: That'll make a better I just wanted to bring up

644
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,400
bubbles because I like him. Why not, I'll bring up

645
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:37,800
bubbles anytime. He apparently has some kind of upgrade and

646
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,840
now he's a monkey.

647
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 3: So the Deep State under the guys of virtual space.

648
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 4: Industries, right, mm hmm?

649
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 3: Really? Uh retard retard name for a company that deals

650
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,000
with creating virtual spaces as an industry monkeys, which is like,

651
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:01,320
but what The one interesting thing about this is that

652
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,199
it is made clear that they have a secret relationship

653
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:07,000
with the Deep State. So this is a public private

654
00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:12,159
deep state company that is tired of doing experiments on monkeys.

655
00:40:14,199 --> 00:40:20,320
Because the monkey turns into monkey assassin, he breaks free

656
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,440
from the Deep State. I'm not kidding. So the monkey

657
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,440
gets out of his mind, Wiper breaks free, and you

658
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,599
said he goes and kills people.

659
00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:30,199
Speaker 5: I don't know this, but he was going on a

660
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:31,159
shooting spree.

661
00:40:32,519 --> 00:40:36,679
Speaker 3: Mafia monkey all he needed. I would have liked this

662
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,840
movie if they had just given him a cigar, because

663
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,519
the monkey with a cigar is funny. But if he

664
00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:43,360
doesn't have a cigar, it's just he sucks. But a

665
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,079
monkey with a cigar and like a Tommy gun. That

666
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:46,679
would have been great.

667
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 5: We need to watch that one where the gorilla is

668
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:48,960
the butler.

669
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,079
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, worst of all.

670
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's so the monkey.

671
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 3: Anyway, they're mad because they can't figure out if it's

672
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:07,239
really gonna work by turning monkeys into super intelligent monkey assassins.

673
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:13,920
So they decide to RoboCup monkey. He literally looks like robocops.

674
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,000
So they make a super soldier monkey. Yeah, and then

675
00:41:16,039 --> 00:41:19,360
they were like, all right, uh, let's find a let's

676
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,519
find a beautiful slow boy to experiment on.

677
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 5: Yes, well, YouTube, you said, YouTube says faith. He's a

678
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,880
woman's fantasy.

679
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,519
Speaker 3: But which I thought was funny if they met him

680
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:32,519
in this as Job.

681
00:41:33,639 --> 00:41:37,199
Speaker 5: Job Job, that's his character's name. It's so stupid.

682
00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:42,639
Speaker 3: He wears overall. It's like freaking Chucky, like a four

683
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,159
year old, Like like he's on the he's on the

684
00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:52,119
box of play school toys. Like literally, I know he's

685
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:55,760
dressed like Chucky. Yeah, I mean, come on, what slow

686
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,039
boy actually does dress like Chunky in overalls? Come on,

687
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:02,760
He's like he's like my buddy, dude, Oh yeah, totally

688
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,880
my buddy.

689
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 5: He just he gets around on hot wheels.

690
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 3: Right, mm hmm, that's what I'm telling you. This movie

691
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,760
is freaking funny, dude. I mean, you cannot take this

692
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,000
movie seriously. It will crack you up.

693
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,639
Speaker 5: The evolution of the human mind, we have to take

694
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:22,280
it seriously.

695
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: Oh that's actually it's not PC, is it? Because they

696
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,320
chose a slow boy and so it's not PC.

697
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 5: Next step in evolution is VR, and it can turn

698
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,800
all of the dumb dumbs into geniuses.

699
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 3: That was you, just Jack. That was a stupid. Part

700
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,719
of this movie was a jacking in. It's gonna lead

701
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,320
to human evolution and we're all gonna get smart do

702
00:42:43,639 --> 00:42:46,679
once we can have Wikipedia in our head, We're gonna

703
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,239
be so smart and everybody be a genius. Dude, it'll be.

704
00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 5: Awesome of Google in your brain.

705
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 3: That's well, that's how they present it in the movie.

706
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,400
And they even say the evolution of the human mind

707
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,519
is virtual reality. I think that's what the Pierce Brosnan characters.

708
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:06,119
Speaker 5: I like how they're contrasting simple Jack's simple job. They're

709
00:43:06,199 --> 00:43:12,000
contrasting simple job religious beliefs. While he's in his simple state.

710
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: Yeah he's a Christian, yeah, and he's but he's.

711
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 5: A Christian who allows his priest to abuse him.

712
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 3: Yes, he's raped and been pillaged and flagellated by a

713
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,159
Roman Catholic priest who's a creeper weirdo, which is an

714
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:26,719
interesting element that he put in there.

715
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 5: But so I like how Pierce Brosnan in the beginning

716
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,400
his girlfriend walks out of him because you're skipping he's

717
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:39,239
in the pr We said all that.

718
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 3: One thing that's funny about the movie, and you see

719
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,119
this in all these dystopian older nineties ages, is that

720
00:43:46,159 --> 00:43:51,079
they project it like by twenty fifteen, twenty twenty two,

721
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,079
vr'll be everywhere. Dude, is still not a thing. I mean,

722
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,800
they keep trying and trying trying to push VR. I

723
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,480
don't know why it's still not a thing. I mean

724
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:02,920
I have not done Oculus or any of this stuff.

725
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,159
But they're always wrong about the projections of the year, right,

726
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:07,800
like where's the flying car.

727
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 4: Nobody's doing VR. It's it's all lame, it's not cool.

728
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 3: But in this time period, it was like, dude, wait

729
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,960
till the Internet to where and everybody's in VR.

730
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,039
Speaker 5: Ye.

731
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:23,679
Speaker 3: And by the way, imagine being James Bond and to

732
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,280
go from being James Bond to experimenting on Slow Boys.

733
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,480
I mean, in this dumbass movie, what was Pierce Brosman thinking, Well.

734
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,039
Speaker 5: I like how she walks out on his double low

735
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:38,320
ins because he's on the VR.

736
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,639
Speaker 3: That's my joke. You can have it.

737
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 5: We wrote it down.

738
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 3: He has this hot wife and she's like wanted to

739
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,000
get frisky, and he's like, I'm in the middle of this.

740
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:52,679
I'm in the middle of the VR and he's going

741
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,400
into the VR and it's like and he's was he

742
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,079
trying to have VR relations kit?

743
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 5: I don't think they didn't show that. He's just ignoring

744
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,280
her for the VR and she gets fed up and

745
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,280
I'm like, well, that's the only thing that's true about

746
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,480
this movie in the future is that all the women

747
00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:11,519
are gonna walk out because they're sick of them Internet.

748
00:45:12,679 --> 00:45:15,639
Speaker 3: Well, they do mention the VR coitas at some point.

749
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,119
It comes up as wait till everybody can have VRD,

750
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,480
it's gonna be so rare.

751
00:45:20,639 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 5: He takes that widow lady into the VR to do it,

752
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:30,960
remember or the lady the milf, the milf.

753
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, the milf that simple Jack puts the moves on.

754
00:45:33,199 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

755
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:39,119
Speaker 5: Yeah.

756
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 3: This was in Flowers for aldron On too, because there's

757
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,320
this point where so he's simple and then when his

758
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,679
IQ starts going up, like he's doing whatever he's doing,

759
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,280
and then he gets a certain point and he hits

760
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,599
puberty and then he notices boobs.

761
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, yeah, he was too simple and childlike before.

762
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 3: That, but he's a grown man. It doesn't make any sense.

763
00:46:03,199 --> 00:46:06,639
Speaker 5: I want Net, the Worldwide Net? What does that mean?

764
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: Oh? That My note was that I'm talking about the

765
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,480
way people thought about the Internet in the future.

766
00:46:13,519 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 4: They were like, we're gonna.

767
00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 3: Have the Net and it'll be the world Wide Web,

768
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,000
and you'll be able to surf it, and everybody will

769
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,719
have the Net and we'll all be surfing it, and

770
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,840
it's going to be so rad And they didn't realize

771
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,360
that it was like the destruction of the whole universe.

772
00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:30,960
The Internet would bring the total dystopia collapse of.

773
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 5: The dirtiest thing ever created.

774
00:46:35,159 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 3: Well, they didn't in the movie. I guess you could

775
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,400
actually argue the movie, Well, if you know the end

776
00:46:42,679 --> 00:46:49,000
the movie is kind of warning that the Internet, the

777
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,559
Internet is going to lawn mow us. All that's what

778
00:46:52,079 --> 00:47:01,360
That's what happens. Remember, Oh, lawnmower over man, lawnmower lawnmowing. Yeah,

779
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:06,000
and we're all tards, arts, we're all jobs, and we

780
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:09,719
think we're gonna be turned into geniuses by by the

781
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,000
surfing the web, and instead it's gonna it's gonna it's

782
00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:15,800
gonna mower minds because he mows that one guy's mind

783
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:16,440
at the gas station.

784
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,159
Speaker 5: And every man is a god in the virtual world.

785
00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 3: Right, that's the that's the lure, the trap de bait. Dude, bro,

786
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,639
it's gonna be so awesome when you can have sex

787
00:47:28,679 --> 00:47:31,440
with dragons in your virtual world. That's what you've always

788
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:31,920
wanted to do.

789
00:47:32,039 --> 00:47:42,519
Speaker 5: Right, Well, that's what they're all these futuristic movies. That's

790
00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:48,719
what they're doing in the VR or are right here right.

791
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 3: Oh. I did have an instance one time recently where

792
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,719
a slow boy was in front of me, uh and

793
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:02,599
he pulled his pants down relieves himself and then pulled

794
00:48:02,639 --> 00:48:06,360
them back up and all within about five feet of

795
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,119
me in the middle of a giant parking line with

796
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,639
a bunch of people out there. That was an interesting

797
00:48:11,679 --> 00:48:12,840
event and that was true.

798
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 5: Story that really I missed it. I was inside it.

799
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,880
Let's see. Oh, the lawnmower, he calls it big Red

800
00:48:22,679 --> 00:48:23,800
because it's like a car.

801
00:48:24,039 --> 00:48:25,159
Speaker 4: It's like his fire truck.

802
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

803
00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:28,639
Speaker 3: And then Pierce bros And is like, oh, I'm so

804
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,400
tired of experimenting on monkeys. If I could only but

805
00:48:31,519 --> 00:48:34,840
find a slow boy to experiment on. And then he

806
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,960
walks out of his basement and what do you know

807
00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:41,840
next to him as a shed provided full with a

808
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,519
slow boy right in front of Oh, well, here we go.

809
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:49,599
So he lures Job into the apparatus. Yes, and they

810
00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:53,280
play video games right, well, they start with video games,

811
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,039
oh yeah, and then it turns into it. By the way,

812
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:01,199
why is the neighbor's kid who's like ten hanging out

813
00:49:01,199 --> 00:49:06,360
with Joe the full grown man chucky boy slow boy

814
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,639
and they're in Pierce Brosn's basement. Isn't that a little weird?

815
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,639
I mean, nobody's thought this was weird.

816
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,079
Speaker 5: But you always go over to your adult neighbor's house and.

817
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:21,199
Speaker 3: Play video games in the in the basement. And what's

818
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,199
with the grounds keeps always being weirdos? They're they're always.

819
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 5: Creepy groundskeeper Willie.

820
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,519
Speaker 4: If you're a damn groundskeep, dude, give it up.

821
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:35,119
Speaker 5: Well, remember when he first goes in ritual magic symbols.

822
00:49:35,639 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 3: No, this is the second time. He brings him in

823
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,239
and he says, I want to take you to the

824
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:43,760
next level, and then he yeah. Then he feeds into

825
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,719
him all of the ritual magic and shout out to

826
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,480
Isaac Illuminati Watcher, heat will be he and I'll be

827
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:54,280
chatting tomorrow night about a series he did. It was

828
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:59,079
really cool. But Isaac also covered lownmore Man and his

829
00:49:59,159 --> 00:50:01,239
analysis was fun. And by the way, we didn't steal.

830
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,599
I didn't steal. We didn't steal the simple jack joke.

831
00:50:05,679 --> 00:50:09,480
We thought of it also in concert with you, Isaac,

832
00:50:09,519 --> 00:50:09,960
we love you.

833
00:50:10,119 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 5: It's super obvious.

834
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 3: Is I think that the Ben Steeler movie had to

835
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:16,440
be pulling from this?

836
00:50:16,639 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

837
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 5: Probably? Oh and also there's alchemy symbols, right.

838
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: So he uploads ritual magic into Jeff Ahey's head anyway,

839
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,199
and this turns him not just so he has a

840
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,159
stage where he's a genius player. He's like, turns into

841
00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:36,440
this genius player, but he actually looks like a gay

842
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,920
version of Javier Bardow. He looks really weird.

843
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 4: But then he.

844
00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 3: Goes from macin on the neighborhood mills to an insane

845
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,800
god god man like he thinks he's got god power.

846
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,079
He starts developing god power, yes, psychic power, yes, you know,

847
00:50:56,199 --> 00:50:59,760
can make stuff fly around, And it's just it turns

848
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:00,679
into total idiots.

849
00:51:00,679 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 5: So the more time you spend in virtuality, the more

850
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,000
cool powers you have.

851
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,159
Speaker 3: And he just keeps downloading more information into his head

852
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,199
and he's evolving, evolving, evolving to become.

853
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:10,639
Speaker 4: The new God.

854
00:51:11,039 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 3: And then he faces off against the Crucifix in the

855
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:19,679
virtual world, and he's like trying to defeat Jesus in

856
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,400
the virtual world. It is just I don't know what

857
00:51:23,639 --> 00:51:25,639
drug Steve King was.

858
00:51:25,559 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 5: On hedgerom inside that vre it was.

859
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 3: I mean, it was really really this is a really,

860
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:34,679
really stupid movie. It's only good because it's freaking hilarious.

861
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,719
But it does show that that that Silicon Valley and

862
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:44,159
the Militransditional Complex Deep State are totally the same, and

863
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:51,719
the Militrandis complex is behind the Silicon Valley companies private companies,

864
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,760
quote unquote, and that this is being put out for

865
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:02,039
everyone's social engineering they call the puppet masters in the movie.

866
00:52:02,199 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, did they mention neotropics in there?

867
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they mentioned neotropic drugs like limitless pills, which I

868
00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:12,159
just thought was an odd reference.

869
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 4: But I'll give them one point.

870
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 3: For lost, forgotten, archaic eighties terminology that is no longer

871
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,039
used or heard. Dutical.

872
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,039
Speaker 5: I never heard that before.

873
00:52:28,039 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 4: We always enjoy the slang that never made it.

874
00:52:32,519 --> 00:52:33,599
Speaker 5: Trying to make dutical happen.

875
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, dutical never happened. And then I got a kick

876
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,559
out of taking dope. It's a great boomer phrase for

877
00:52:44,639 --> 00:52:45,000
the drug.

878
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:47,599
Speaker 5: They have a saturn cube for a logo.

879
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 3: I think they did. They had some kind of weird

880
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,960
cube logo for the company that was like a box

881
00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:57,639
and it was very Saturnalian. But I mean this has

882
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,360
the same gnostic themes, right of like over Coming to

883
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,960
demi Urge. You know, he goes into the virtual world

884
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:06,599
and he wants to become God. The whole point is apotheosis,

885
00:53:06,639 --> 00:53:08,119
The whole point is transhumanism.

886
00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 5: He wants to upload himself and merge with it.

887
00:53:11,079 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 3: Well, he wants out of the complex's motherboard. He's stuck

888
00:53:15,079 --> 00:53:19,679
in the computer motherboard at the Military Inditional Complex, Silicon

889
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,039
Valley companies. He's at Facebook or whatever. He wants out

890
00:53:23,079 --> 00:53:26,960
of that. Uh, and he's fighting Pierce Brosnan and the kid.

891
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:30,719
That whole scene is hilarious and then, uh, you know,

892
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,199
spoiler alert, I wonder if he got out and then

893
00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:37,880
all every phone in the world rings in the last sequence.

894
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,800
Oh yeah, he's so he got out to do what

895
00:53:41,199 --> 00:53:42,440
to call everybody?

896
00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:43,039
Speaker 4: Harassed?

897
00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:46,199
Speaker 3: Everybody like these damn robocollars. But basically he just turned

898
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:51,920
into like the robocolor that called you Jenny Dunn's you have.

899
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,199
Speaker 5: Do you want to hear that story? You have to

900
00:53:55,199 --> 00:53:56,239
listen to boiler Rooms.

901
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:02,039
Speaker 3: You must replace the Lacheng Corleston within four hours or

902
00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:04,440
are we going to put you in dinner? You have

903
00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:12,880
been working, would have been in London? Where are we at? Existence?

904
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 5: This one? I can't read yours?

905
00:54:16,639 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 3: Yes you can, I'll help you read it.

906
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 5: Okay, that's your job, sleep reader.

907
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,159
Speaker 3: Welcome everybody. We got three hundred nerds. You're watching Jay's analysis.

908
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:28,840
We're doing next up. David Cronenberg My new sort of

909
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,320
favorite director, Existence.

910
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,599
Speaker 5: Existence, Existence, This one.

911
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,679
Speaker 4: Jude Law and uh, what's your face?

912
00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:38,079
Speaker 3: Jennifer Jason Leeke.

913
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 5: This one creeps me out.

914
00:54:40,039 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 3: It's a creepy movie. It's good.

915
00:54:43,559 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

916
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 3: Like all David Cronenberg movies, they're unsettling. And the first

917
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,599
time I watched it, I was unsettled, but I was

918
00:54:51,639 --> 00:54:54,159
still into it. The second time I watched it, I

919
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,920
liked it even more. I'm glad we watched it. I

920
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:03,559
do recommend existing by right back to how many overalls

921
00:55:03,559 --> 00:55:04,559
do you give lawnmar.

922
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:09,039
Speaker 5: Man eight and a half?

923
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, just on the basis of whether the movie is

924
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,079
good or not. Yeah, uh yeah, I'll give it three

925
00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:16,960
and a half overalls. What do you do with a

926
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,840
half overall? It's beautiful, like you hang it off, like.

927
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, when they used to do that one.

928
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 3: You'll see Chasing Waterfalls b.

929
00:55:28,519 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: That was the.

930
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:34,159
Speaker 5: Biggest song of nineteen ninety five. Where you at slave

931
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,679
units in existence? What does that mean?

932
00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 3: So the film begins with this weird meeting of people

933
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,719
at a former church. It's an old church and this

934
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,280
crew of people is there to try out I think

935
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,519
they call it Slave Units, and it's a new video

936
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:56,639
game that's being developed, and it's like this weird almost

937
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,719
looks like human organs that you squish on and stick

938
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:00,280
into you.

939
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,599
Speaker 4: To jack into the matrix, stick it in with.

940
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 5: Like an umbilical cord thing.

941
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 3: It looks like an ambilical cord and also has sexual

942
00:56:09,159 --> 00:56:15,000
ish connotation. It looks like yeah, yeah, and uh, I

943
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,360
think they're called somebody. Something's called slavey in the thing

944
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,119
that you have is called your slavey unit. So you

945
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,280
in the in this dystopian future, everyone carries around their

946
00:56:24,039 --> 00:56:29,960
virtual world bodily organ with them. So Cronenberg, I guess,

947
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,039
thought it would be interesting to merge the worlds of

948
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,000
technology and biology into you know, as if this thing

949
00:56:37,199 --> 00:56:40,239
was like an organ probably like where we're going with

950
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:46,039
these phones and whatnot, Right, they'll be like organs. So

951
00:56:46,119 --> 00:56:50,159
it's a video game summit corporations. They're testing out this

952
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,519
game that's been developed, and they they liken it to

953
00:56:53,559 --> 00:56:58,280
a virtual religious experience. So already Kronenberg is all right,

954
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,400
and there's there's no doubt about this that the film

955
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,400
has this gnostic connotation to it. Right, this world is

956
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,639
the real virtual world. The architect of the virtual world

957
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,559
is the crazy psycho. And can you beat the video game?

958
00:57:12,119 --> 00:57:15,159
Like this life is the video game? Right, God, the creator,

959
00:57:15,199 --> 00:57:21,880
God is the boss of the video game. Basically alone

960
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:26,239
with games, I don't everybody's just alone, I guess, is

961
00:57:26,239 --> 00:57:28,559
what we're saying. The other thing that's funny about this

962
00:57:28,639 --> 00:57:30,440
that doesn't make sense is that the whole maybe this

963
00:57:30,519 --> 00:57:33,039
was a clue to tell you that this is once

964
00:57:33,079 --> 00:57:38,199
again shocker, surprise or alert. You're not really in the

965
00:57:38,239 --> 00:57:39,840
real world, You're in the matrix.

966
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:45,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's always that, which reality is real? Element?

967
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:50,679
Speaker 3: Julu is his name is Ted Pickle. Then he say

968
00:57:50,719 --> 00:57:55,880
his name is Ted Pickle. P I k I thought

969
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,199
that was funny. I don't know, but no Pickle p.

970
00:57:59,239 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 5: I k u l uher the demonste Goddess. So she's

971
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,159
the Sophia or is she the DeMier?

972
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:11,639
Speaker 3: They call her the demon as the goddess because she

973
00:58:12,159 --> 00:58:17,480
is supposedly behind she's the badassest game creator. Remember the

974
00:58:17,519 --> 00:58:20,920
Jennifer Jason Leeue character is the most the awesomest game

975
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,639
designer in the future. And so there is an attack

976
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:33,159
on the testing display what do you call it where

977
00:58:33,159 --> 00:58:33,920
you're testing.

978
00:58:33,679 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 5: Out a yeah, anyway, But the funny thing about.

979
00:58:37,639 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 3: It the attack though, and he runs away with her Jude.

980
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,239
Speaker 5: Laws all right. The funny thing about that was the

981
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,800
meeting have like boomers in it, Like that was what

982
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,000
I was going to say.

983
00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 4: One of these boomers are going to be playing.

984
00:58:48,719 --> 00:58:50,639
Speaker 5: This game interested in the game.

985
00:58:51,039 --> 00:58:55,719
Speaker 3: Like that should have been a clue. Ah. So they

986
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,840
do identify Allegra as the goddess, the Demon, the demon

987
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,000
s and so some guy comes in and death to

988
00:59:03,039 --> 00:59:05,239
the demon s Olegre Geller, and he tries to kill

989
00:59:05,239 --> 00:59:07,480
her and she runs off of Jude Law. And then

990
00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:10,679
so Jude Law is, you know, now on his adventure

991
00:59:10,719 --> 00:59:14,000
with her. What does this say?

992
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,519
Speaker 5: Games, bullet tooth, bone gun.

993
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 3: I don't know what that. Yeah, sometimes I can never

994
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:29,360
remind note. Uh, yeah, there's some weird stuff with bodily

995
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,039
parts and fluids and goo and mush and all that.

996
00:59:33,039 --> 00:59:35,360
That's always going on, I guess in David Cronenberg movies.

997
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,159
But uh, the.

998
00:59:38,119 --> 00:59:39,599
Speaker 4: Bone gun actually comes up later.

999
00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 3: That's another that's one of the keys to let you

1000
00:59:42,039 --> 00:59:43,840
know when you're not and when you are in it

1001
00:59:44,159 --> 00:59:45,039
aren't in the matrix?

1002
00:59:45,239 --> 00:59:51,079
Speaker 5: Okay, but what is this called totems?

1003
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:59,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, like an inception. Yeah, in this dystopian future, it's

1004
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,800
just like like in thirteenth Floor, you can go into

1005
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,800
other matrixes in the matrix. So when you go in,

1006
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,960
you can then go into a store where you buy

1007
01:00:11,079 --> 01:00:14,599
other games inside the game. So then you get lost

1008
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:19,360
into in the sense of what was real reality. Hence

1009
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:24,800
why At a philosophical level, I think David Cronenberg is

1010
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:30,320
asking us an existential less question existence, what is existence?

1011
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,559
Speaker 4: What is actually real?

1012
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 3: And if these virtual realities do come to be indistinguishable

1013
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,920
and we go into them or whatever, how will we

1014
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,079
even know what is real? And will we even forget

1015
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:44,840
to come back to the one that is real. I mean,

1016
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,360
I don't think that's really going to happen. But that

1017
01:00:47,119 --> 01:00:48,519
was that's the question he's raising.

1018
01:00:48,639 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 5: That was Jude Law's worry. His character was always worried,

1019
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,079
like how do I know what?

1020
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,719
Speaker 3: Yes, he keeps asking her, yeah, and she doesn't really

1021
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,639
answer him. She doesn't really give a clear answers to win.

1022
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:02,559
How he'll know my.

1023
01:01:02,599 --> 01:01:05,079
Speaker 5: Body be okay if I go into the VR.

1024
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 3: So this world, this reality is the lowest level of reality.

1025
01:01:10,599 --> 01:01:14,199
The there is a great architect God that we think

1026
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,960
is well, actually we we do know that it's Allegra.

1027
01:01:19,159 --> 01:01:26,400
She is the the real uh savior here Gmo bug,

1028
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,639
there's something new with genetically modified.

1029
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,639
Speaker 5: In the VR world. There's weird insects and so that's.

1030
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 3: Oh, they've genetically modified these weird beings. Yeah, and that's

1031
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,280
a clue that you're not in the real world because

1032
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,440
it's like a bug with like five heads and you

1033
01:01:43,519 --> 01:01:58,719
know no physical what only that remone notes scheme. I

1034
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:06,760
don't know, that just makes sense. We'll go whatever, living biocomputers. Oh,

1035
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:11,239
it's presenting humans as if they're living biocomputers. And then

1036
01:02:14,119 --> 01:02:17,280
amphibian eggs. There was something crazy to do with fish. Oh,

1037
01:02:17,559 --> 01:02:22,440
that's right. The way that they create these computers is

1038
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:28,679
through fish eggs, and they modify, genetically modify seafood and

1039
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:35,519
fish to be storage units for computers. Remember that.

1040
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,159
Speaker 4: And you are the body.

1041
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 3: So this is actually something that they're rolling out nowadays,

1042
01:02:41,039 --> 01:02:43,440
which is that the human body and its energy itself

1043
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,960
will actually power the slave devices that track and trace you.

1044
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,000
Claus talks about that, but that's been mentioned by the

1045
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:56,079
techoleee for a long time. The trout farm, don't they

1046
01:02:56,079 --> 01:02:58,079
mention the GMO trout and that they couldn't tell the

1047
01:02:58,119 --> 01:03:02,039
difference between the real trout and the fake trout. This

1048
01:03:02,079 --> 01:03:05,119
is all going on at a Chinese gut factory.

1049
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,079
Speaker 5: A restaurant to remember.

1050
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 3: Well, the restaurant is the front for the gut factory,

1051
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:15,880
and they're genetically modifying the eggs at this factory for

1052
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,079
to make the video game.

1053
01:03:21,599 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 4: Yes, so there is this.

1054
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 3: David Cronenberg I likes to utilize the macabre, the absurd,

1055
01:03:28,239 --> 01:03:31,000
the Grotesque, as it's called in literature. If you read

1056
01:03:31,119 --> 01:03:37,840
Flannery O'Connor The Grotesque, it is a metaphysical movie. Not

1057
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:43,880
a lot of movies are bound up with metaphysical questions.

1058
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,199
And so, even though obviously I don't agree with David

1059
01:03:47,239 --> 01:03:50,599
Kroneberg's I'm sure he's a gnostic, but he does at

1060
01:03:50,719 --> 01:03:55,079
least ask metaphysical questions in movies, which is pretty rare.

1061
01:03:56,199 --> 01:04:01,320
So even though he's probably denying that there is a

1062
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,639
real world, I'll give him points before I'll give him

1063
01:04:04,679 --> 01:04:10,000
a four Jude Law teeth and three fish guns because

1064
01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:18,880
he's he's asking interesting questions. What does that say energies

1065
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:26,559
of reality can't agree? I got to write better notes man. Anyway, So,

1066
01:04:27,039 --> 01:04:33,880
as you can imagine spoiler alert, the real world was

1067
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,239
not the real world. It was all layers of matrix.

1068
01:04:36,519 --> 01:04:39,960
But they eventually do get out of the matrix, and

1069
01:04:40,639 --> 01:04:45,039
Jude Law is there too. Doesn't he shoot Allegra at

1070
01:04:45,079 --> 01:04:51,400
the end? Yeah? Right, yes, Jude Law is the assassin.

1071
01:04:51,559 --> 01:04:56,840
He shoots Allegra. Yeah, because the idea is that she

1072
01:04:57,039 --> 01:04:59,519
is the demon goddess who designed this matrix?

1073
01:04:59,639 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 5: Right, sorry?

1074
01:05:03,079 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 2: Yes?

1075
01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:12,159
Speaker 3: And Jude Law questions this this game. Well, actually doesn't

1076
01:05:12,159 --> 01:05:14,280
he shoot two other people? He doesn't shoot her?

1077
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:14,519
Speaker 5: Is?

1078
01:05:14,679 --> 01:05:17,039
Speaker 3: I can't remember, I'll forgotten it. I forgot how the

1079
01:05:17,079 --> 01:05:19,199
movie ends, and I can't read my note what it

1080
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,760
says hit by a car? Oh, that's one of the

1081
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,280
games you can play, get hit by a car. That's

1082
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:30,159
some fun anyway. Existence is a great movie.

1083
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 5: I give it, and the only hook up in the

1084
01:05:32,039 --> 01:05:33,519
virtual world, not the real world.

1085
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 4: You don't remember how it ends?

1086
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,719
Speaker 3: Chat? How does it end? I'm sorry, I'm getting I'm

1087
01:05:39,719 --> 01:05:42,079
getting tired in my mind as all mush. I did

1088
01:05:42,119 --> 01:05:45,079
a lot of exercise today, so I don't know what.

1089
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:46,280
I can't hardly talk.

1090
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:48,039
Speaker 5: We got two more?

1091
01:05:48,639 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 3: Can we make it through two more? If you guys

1092
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,199
want to support me, yeah, I feel free. We got

1093
01:05:53,199 --> 01:05:54,960
a few super chats. I'll read a couple of super

1094
01:05:55,000 --> 01:06:01,840
chats John for three dollars. It would be good. Would

1095
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,760
God be cool with me let letting someone use my

1096
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:09,519
Amazon Flex account to make deliveries and get paid for

1097
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:14,760
the use of my account. I don't I'm not an

1098
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:19,280
ethical consultant. I'm not gonna go. But I don't think

1099
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:24,639
that's a big deal. I don't know, but Finn fine

1100
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:28,199
topic yeah, go ask or the duxburies. That's not my job.

1101
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,000
Would you say nacissism is a form of goddess worship

1102
01:06:31,039 --> 01:06:36,960
because of the Sofia thing. Yes, it has elements of polytheism. Yeah,

1103
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,880
and so absolutely, the goddess definitely plays a huge role

1104
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,159
in the Gnostic mythos and in all the different systems.

1105
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:47,239
Troi la Mexicano for five dollars. All the Mexicans are

1106
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,599
considered extinct in futuristic sci fi movies.

1107
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,719
Speaker 5: It's a movie explaining why we aren't around anything.

1108
01:06:58,079 --> 01:07:00,559
Speaker 3: He says. Lol. Yeah, I've never really, I've never thought

1109
01:07:00,559 --> 01:07:01,920
about that question.

1110
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 5: It was remember that movie Read Dawn with the high

1111
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:11,519
school kids. Of course it was Mexico and Russia and

1112
01:07:11,639 --> 01:07:13,480
China invading.

1113
01:07:14,519 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 3: Well and no, it's they invaded through Mexico and it

1114
01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:21,280
was like communists from El Salvador's Mexican.

1115
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 5: Oh okay, but.

1116
01:07:23,079 --> 01:07:26,239
Speaker 3: Man, that's a great question. I've never even thought about it.

1117
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,880
Isn't Antonio, Oh he doesn't count because he's from Spain.

1118
01:07:29,519 --> 01:07:33,000
There's some there's some futuristic movie with Antonio Banderas.

1119
01:07:34,159 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 4: Sorry, dude, that's the closest you got, is.

1120
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 3: Like Antonio Banderas because he's in some b B sci.

1121
01:07:39,519 --> 01:07:44,239
Speaker 5: Fi movie, So maybe more Mexican authors should write sci fi.

1122
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go, Joelo, right, rite your sci fi

1123
01:07:47,039 --> 01:07:47,880
thing where.

1124
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 3: All the honkys are going and you know it's like.

1125
01:07:53,519 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 6: Machette cheech and chong and then that's it and you

1126
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:04,239
and then you guys have to yeah, yeah, you guys

1127
01:08:04,239 --> 01:08:07,480
have to repopulate the earth with the four uh uh

1128
01:08:07,639 --> 01:08:08,360
what are they called?

1129
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 3: The Latina girl? The laws Cholette's.

1130
01:08:19,319 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 5: Okay, well, where's Penelope Cruise from?

1131
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get more coffee from Mexico. She's Spanish? Got

1132
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:32,000
how does she say?

1133
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,399
Speaker 5: It?

1134
01:08:36,399 --> 01:08:37,159
Speaker 3: Comes my mind?

1135
01:08:37,239 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 5: Is mush keep talking to the People's all right, we're

1136
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:44,960
gonna do Vanilla Sky and all these are your notes,

1137
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:53,239
I can't read them. Let's see scientology. So this probably

1138
01:08:53,279 --> 01:08:58,760
has an element of the l Ron Hubbard in it.

1139
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,600
Remake of a foreign film. Oh yeah, so it was

1140
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:10,640
a was it a Mexican film or a Spanish film?

1141
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:18,000
But Penelope Cruise was in both Vanilla Skuys. There's the

1142
01:09:18,119 --> 01:09:25,479
Dakota building that is famous. It uses that building that

1143
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:29,359
you can see that in Roseberry's Baby, and that's the

1144
01:09:29,399 --> 01:09:33,520
building where John Lennon was shot.

1145
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, ju.

1146
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,399
Speaker 5: Was the other Vanilla Sky Mexican.

1147
01:09:42,199 --> 01:09:42,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1148
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 3: I thought it was a Spanish film.

1149
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was in Spanish. I'm not sure who's I

1150
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:47,479
don't think it's.

1151
01:09:47,319 --> 01:09:53,319
Speaker 3: A Mexican film. And Penelope Cruise not for Mexico. Uh yeah,

1152
01:09:54,079 --> 01:09:56,720
I want to do this this pretty soon.

1153
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 2: Here.

1154
01:09:57,039 --> 01:10:01,119
Speaker 3: This is the classic you know what happened with AMR

1155
01:10:01,279 --> 01:10:03,640
David Chapman and all that stuff. That'll be a fun

1156
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:07,439
one to do. But the Dakota Building is relevant for

1157
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:11,880
this because she said it's got all these historic connections.

1158
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,439
So and I even watched the DVD commentary and they

1159
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,000
said they intentionally chose the Dakoda Building for all those

1160
01:10:17,039 --> 01:10:22,319
weird past events. And then you even see in the

1161
01:10:22,399 --> 01:10:25,560
opening sequence the camera flies in like a demon, almost,

1162
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:29,680
which I think, doesn't it do that in Rosemary's Baby?

1163
01:10:30,119 --> 01:10:37,720
I can't remember. Coffee's weak, Dudes, doesn't even do anything.

1164
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,000
It's like coffee pissed and I'm drinking the piss of

1165
01:10:41,159 --> 01:10:44,920
the coffee. So it's not doing anything. It's two weak.

1166
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 4: It is a remake of the Foreign film.

1167
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 3: I know that. I know that everybody's always the foreign field. Well,

1168
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:58,199
nobody watches Foreign films really so, I mean, some dude, but.

1169
01:11:00,239 --> 01:11:05,319
Speaker 5: Uh, VR simulation right.

1170
01:11:05,319 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 3: Well, if it's in the whole series that we're doing

1171
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,000
on VR, we know it's a VR movie. So I'm

1172
01:11:12,039 --> 01:11:14,800
assuming you've all seen the movie and you know that

1173
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,319
it's a simulation.

1174
01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:19,319
Speaker 4: Of course, when you first watched the movie, you're kind

1175
01:11:19,319 --> 01:11:19,800
of WHOA.

1176
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:23,199
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that, And I also wasn't sure until

1177
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I went back and watched some of the DVD commentary.

1178
01:11:26,279 --> 01:11:32,560
At what point he was in this simulation future state?

1179
01:11:33,319 --> 01:11:35,199
And it's when he passes out in the street.

1180
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 5: Oh, Vanilla Sky is also the name of a painting.

1181
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 3: That's why when he looks up after he passes out,

1182
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,800
he looks up and sees the sky. I look like that.

1183
01:11:45,039 --> 01:11:47,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, because this is his personal.

1184
01:11:47,039 --> 01:11:48,279
Speaker 5: And paint is like a fantasy.

1185
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 3: It's his personal VR because he saw the painting earlier

1186
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:52,159
in his apartment.

1187
01:11:52,319 --> 01:11:56,359
Speaker 5: Yeah. It's also a Beautiles song. I yes, it is

1188
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:56,880
a sure?

1189
01:11:59,239 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 3: Well this does how well?

1190
01:12:01,079 --> 01:12:01,359
Speaker 1: Bet?

1191
01:12:02,319 --> 01:12:04,199
Speaker 5: Every time he was a bet he has to watch

1192
01:12:04,199 --> 01:12:06,520
a dog movie with me, so he won't bet it's

1193
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:07,199
a Beatles song.

1194
01:12:07,359 --> 01:12:10,159
Speaker 4: This is a dog movie.

1195
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 5: Vanilla Sky Beatles.

1196
01:12:12,199 --> 01:12:21,319
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't say that it wasn't true. Uh,

1197
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,000
it's Paul McCartney, So I don't I don't know if

1198
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:29,960
that counts. That's not Beatles is now, it's not. Paul

1199
01:12:30,039 --> 01:12:35,760
McCartney is not the Beatles. Dom to know. Paul McCartney

1200
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,039
is not the Beatles. The real Beatles are John Lennon.

1201
01:12:41,239 --> 01:12:43,239
Speaker 5: I think it is a whole Beatles song.

1202
01:12:43,359 --> 01:12:47,039
Speaker 3: It's Paul McCartney. Okay, so you know he had his

1203
01:12:47,079 --> 01:12:54,680
own solo career. Anyway, where are we at? Oh? So

1204
01:12:55,239 --> 01:12:58,560
it begins with him running and he sees the empty

1205
01:12:59,239 --> 01:13:03,640
Times Square and then he wakes up. Uh. It's by

1206
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,319
the way, this reminded me of that movie Quiet Earth,

1207
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,680
which is a B sci fi movie that's actually really good.

1208
01:13:10,159 --> 01:13:12,239
The guy thinks he's the last go on Earth. It's

1209
01:13:12,279 --> 01:13:14,640
a fun movie that's like a Cern type of thing

1210
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:20,439
where Cern went nuts and deleted everybody somehow.

1211
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 4: Anyway, watch Quiet Earth if you've never seen it.

1212
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 3: If you're looking for a good B sci independent sci

1213
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,560
fi movie that's that's fun from the eighties. It's a

1214
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:30,680
I think it's New Zealand movie or Australia.

1215
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 5: Anyway, Open open, I'll tell you in another life when

1216
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:41,039
we are both cats.

1217
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 3: That's a good Penelope, but she says open open your

1218
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:45,760
eyes and.

1219
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 4: Then Tom wakes up.

1220
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:51,279
Speaker 3: Uh, And so this is also like inception. Notice the

1221
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:55,800
similarity between the Virtual World's themes and movies and dream

1222
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:59,800
State movies. Naturally they're all the same. How do we

1223
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:03,880
know what would be the difference. So he almost wrecks

1224
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:07,199
his car in that opening sequence with Jason Lee if

1225
01:14:07,239 --> 01:14:11,800
you were noticed, And that's a pre signifier foreshadowing that

1226
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,840
everything that's happening in this beginning part is kind of

1227
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:22,600
leading up to the central folk sigeh of the Virtual World, right,

1228
01:14:23,039 --> 01:14:26,600
because he's gonna have the crazy car wreck with Cameron

1229
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,479
Diaz right foreshadowing.

1230
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:35,399
Speaker 5: Oh and kmeron Diaz. She's such a pathetic character in this.

1231
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:41,319
Speaker 3: Like total Yeah, she plays crazy bitch who turns into

1232
01:14:41,319 --> 01:14:41,880
crazy bitch.

1233
01:14:42,039 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, poor girl chasing a guy who does not care

1234
01:14:48,039 --> 01:14:48,520
about her.

1235
01:14:49,159 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 3: And Tom Cruise is the son of some big publishing

1236
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:57,840
mogul who basically he runs the equivalent of Rolling Stone.

1237
01:14:58,039 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 5: No, they call him like Citizen Kane. First character, Tom.

1238
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,399
Speaker 4: Cruise runs what's the equivalent of Rolling Stone?

1239
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 2: I know?

1240
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 5: And his board they call him the Seven Dwars.

1241
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:20,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, well there are mythological or fairy tale references in

1242
01:15:20,279 --> 01:15:25,359
the movie. And that's because ultimately this is a Luciferian

1243
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,479
themed movie. In mind you, because I actually think the

1244
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:37,680
movie is quasi scientology related, not with all the alien

1245
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,279
bugs attached to thetans and all that stuff, but just

1246
01:15:41,319 --> 01:15:44,680
the whole idea of you know, I mean, Tom plays

1247
01:15:45,399 --> 01:15:48,760
a big role in the production of this movie. I

1248
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:54,000
do believe that scientologists believe in cryogenetic freezing, and that's

1249
01:15:54,039 --> 01:15:57,760
what this movie is about, I think. So if I'm

1250
01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:59,960
wrong about that, I'm sure somebody the chat can't correct.

1251
01:16:00,159 --> 01:16:02,399
Speaker 5: We see that Walt disneyeded that, and then nobody could

1252
01:16:02,399 --> 01:16:02,840
prove that.

1253
01:16:04,199 --> 01:16:04,359
Speaker 2: Right.

1254
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and thank you. Shout out to Father Deacon.

1255
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,479
Right Penelope Cruise that is in both versions, which is

1256
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,600
an interesting thing. She plays in the Spanish end in

1257
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:15,840
this one. Where are we at.

1258
01:16:20,319 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 5: Nineties?

1259
01:16:21,279 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, his dad is the citizen Kane type of character.

1260
01:16:25,079 --> 01:16:29,239
Then we see the mask. Now this is interesting because

1261
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,920
what year is this? What your is this two thousand?

1262
01:16:34,239 --> 01:16:38,159
So this is a couple of years after Eyeswait shut

1263
01:16:38,359 --> 01:16:41,520
and Tom and the mask. You know this is a

1264
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:42,000
weird thing.

1265
01:16:42,399 --> 01:16:45,239
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it looks like an eyes white shut mask.

1266
01:16:45,319 --> 01:16:48,239
Speaker 5: It does. He's wearing a kind of yeah.

1267
01:16:48,279 --> 01:16:52,079
Speaker 3: So I think we can surmise that there's quasi similar

1268
01:16:52,119 --> 01:16:54,960
themes going on here with waking up. All right, this

1269
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,399
movie continually says, wake up, wake up, wake up, open

1270
01:16:58,399 --> 01:17:02,520
your eyes, wake up now alarm clocks. Yes. On one level,

1271
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,000
that's because the whole point of the movie is that

1272
01:17:05,039 --> 01:17:09,359
he's in a cryogenetic virtual state, he's in the matrix.

1273
01:17:10,359 --> 01:17:13,520
But on another level, the allegory of the movie is

1274
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:18,319
a Luciferian wake up to this world being the creation

1275
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,720
of your own consciousness. You are ultimately your own God.

1276
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,239
That's how the movie ends with the statement you are

1277
01:17:25,319 --> 01:17:30,000
your own God. And then the final scene is an

1278
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:35,720
open an eye closed and opening eyes white shut, eyes open.

1279
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:37,680
Where does this take place?

1280
01:17:38,319 --> 01:17:42,319
Speaker 4: New York? Where does the eyes? Why should I take

1281
01:17:42,319 --> 01:17:42,840
place New York?

1282
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 5: Who's the director of this?

1283
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 2: Uh?

1284
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:46,159
Speaker 5: Somebody?

1285
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:47,239
Speaker 3: Is it Cameron Crow?

1286
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:48,319
Speaker 5: No?

1287
01:17:48,319 --> 01:17:49,399
Speaker 3: No, what's his name?

1288
01:17:51,319 --> 01:17:51,359
Speaker 5: No?

1289
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 4: I just looked the other day.

1290
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 2: What was it?

1291
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:09,279
Speaker 3: Is this? Steven Sidberg? It is camera Crow. Don't ever

1292
01:18:09,359 --> 01:18:11,960
challenge me. I should have bet, and then I would

1293
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,760
have to watch a dog damn dog movie. Stupid farting,

1294
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:22,399
barfing dog movies. Where are we at with him anyway.

1295
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:27,079
So Tom's got the mask, and so the story is

1296
01:18:27,119 --> 01:18:32,279
told out of chronological order because he's we see these

1297
01:18:32,319 --> 01:18:34,640
events and then we flash to him talking to his

1298
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:41,680
jail appointed psychiatrist Kurt Russell, who is his father figure archetype, right,

1299
01:18:42,039 --> 01:18:45,000
remember that, because this is the virtual world and he

1300
01:18:45,079 --> 01:18:49,319
constructs his father figure archetype from movies that he's watched,

1301
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:54,600
like To Kill a Mockingbird Gregory Peck.

1302
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 5: Isn't it one of those movies? We had a note

1303
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,399
about Carl Young's shadows self, like you, I went to

1304
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:04,039
the VR so that you can experience your shadows. Remember

1305
01:19:04,079 --> 01:19:06,159
that I think was that thirteenth floor?

1306
01:19:06,279 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's in thirteenth floor. Yeah. So the mask obviously

1307
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,840
has a lot of significance. Go watch my Eyes Wide

1308
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,239
Shut full documentary, the most popular video on the channel

1309
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:21,840
if you want to see my whole analysis of that

1310
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,720
in the mask and that significance. Obviously, we're living in

1311
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,640
a period of masks being forced, so we know that

1312
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,520
masks have a lot of meaning and significance. But in

1313
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,119
this sense it has to do with alternative hidden personas

1314
01:19:34,239 --> 01:19:35,760
or the person behind what.

1315
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 4: Appears to be the case.

1316
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 3: So the subconscious is the real person or the real

1317
01:19:41,039 --> 01:19:46,439
the location of the of what where reality springs forth

1318
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:49,279
from our subconscious in the view of like Carl Jung

1319
01:19:49,359 --> 01:19:54,960
And this is obviously got you know, Youngian influence. Penelope Cruise.

1320
01:19:55,159 --> 01:19:57,640
By the way, there is they keep referring to the

1321
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,800
keys of the Kingdom, the keys of the Kingdom. Now,

1322
01:20:00,039 --> 01:20:03,359
in one sense it's the citizen Kane father character that

1323
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:11,199
is absent right, so absentee father god Tom Cruise has

1324
01:20:11,239 --> 01:20:13,039
the keys to the kingdom, the keys to the Kingdom.

1325
01:20:13,039 --> 01:20:15,600
There also can be an esoteric significance to this.

1326
01:20:16,359 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 5: There's a what.

1327
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,560
Speaker 3: Right, there is some reference to that. I can't recall

1328
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:25,720
what it is all the top of my head. But

1329
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,760
Penelope Crew, well, I mean you can have the key

1330
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,479
to opening up the altars. Right, that's the kingdom, the

1331
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:36,760
inner kingdom. Penelope Cruz plays a Sofia.

1332
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:38,039
Speaker 4: She's the Sofia character.

1333
01:20:38,159 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 3: She's what he's missing to be complete and to complete

1334
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:45,319
his awakening. And her name is Sofia, right, that's on purpose.

1335
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,039
Speaker 5: Oh, they have holographic entertainers, remember that.

1336
01:20:50,279 --> 01:20:58,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's hologram Louis Armstrong or whatever it is there,

1337
01:20:58,399 --> 01:21:01,279
just like you'll see an eyes white shut there's masks.

1338
01:21:01,319 --> 01:21:04,159
When he goes to the girl's apartment. Remember Tom Cruise

1339
01:21:04,199 --> 01:21:07,600
wandering through the streets, meets some girl, goes into her apartment.

1340
01:21:08,279 --> 01:21:12,039
That's eyes wide shot with Domino. That's here with Penelope, right,

1341
01:21:12,079 --> 01:21:15,079
he wanders into her apartment with her. She's got masks

1342
01:21:15,079 --> 01:21:21,920
on her fridge. Domino masks on her apartment. That's intentional.

1343
01:21:22,079 --> 01:21:25,520
There is I think a connection between a loose association

1344
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:27,079
with the two movies, if for.

1345
01:21:27,039 --> 01:21:28,079
Speaker 4: Anything Tom Cruise.

1346
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 3: But obviously the masks play a big role in both films.

1347
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:36,760
But Vanilla Sky, we find out, is the painting that

1348
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,279
he owns. And he shows this off and brags about

1349
01:21:39,319 --> 01:21:41,600
it to Penelope Cruise, right, because he's trying to win

1350
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,720
her over. She's playing a little hard to get, so

1351
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:48,920
he's kind of interested in her over Cameron Diaz, who's

1352
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,119
like the hot blonde and she's, you know, got all

1353
01:21:51,159 --> 01:21:54,880
these famous friends, and she's in some kind of alt

1354
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,359
band that sucks right, like a Courtney Love type of character.

1355
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:03,039
And but I'll be Cruz is just this normal New

1356
01:22:03,119 --> 01:22:08,479
York girl attending Juilliard or whatever. So he's he's attracted

1357
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:12,800
to that because she's foreign to his whole you know Kingdom.

1358
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 5: She's more authentic, and yeah, he can't.

1359
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:28,640
Speaker 3: The Kevir Diaz gets on his nerves. I said, his

1360
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:32,359
mind is blown for a basic bitch because she's like

1361
01:22:32,399 --> 01:22:37,199
the most boring, normal New York girl. She's like, I like,

1362
01:22:37,279 --> 01:22:41,159
what is she like cats and dance? There's nothing interesting

1363
01:22:41,159 --> 01:22:43,680
about her actually, and he's just like whoa, you know.

1364
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,279
The Kurt Russell archetype, as we said, is like the

1365
01:22:48,399 --> 01:22:54,279
Jiminy Cricket conscience guide. He's the father figure archetype who's

1366
01:22:54,319 --> 01:22:58,079
trying to help Tom figure out what's going on in

1367
01:22:58,119 --> 01:23:02,960
this mental labyrinth. This one, by the way, is the

1368
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:06,720
most philosophically deep of the movies, except for maybe Video Drum.

1369
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:11,000
Video Drum's pretty pretty philosophically dense, but I think Vanov's

1370
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:15,319
Sky is pretty much equal to it. But Kurt Russell

1371
01:23:15,319 --> 01:23:18,479
tells him time is not our friend, and so he's

1372
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:22,159
trying to get him to uh figure out what's going

1373
01:23:22,159 --> 01:23:26,439
on before there's some sort of impending doom which Tom

1374
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:29,239
is blaming himself for all of his problems. He's thinking,

1375
01:23:29,279 --> 01:23:31,359
I did this, I did this, I did this. So

1376
01:23:31,399 --> 01:23:35,000
he's basically created his own little mental prison in the

1377
01:23:35,119 --> 01:23:41,079
virtual world. That he's in. But what's fascinating is while

1378
01:23:41,079 --> 01:23:46,039
he's in there doing these Kurt Russell therapy sessions, he

1379
01:23:46,239 --> 01:23:50,159
sees that stupid dog on the TV that was cryogenically frozen.

1380
01:23:50,399 --> 01:23:51,520
Was his name? What was his name?

1381
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 4: Benny?

1382
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 3: And they say that the dog was successfully frozen and

1383
01:23:58,399 --> 01:24:02,960
unfrozen like dog sickle work. This is a clue. This

1384
01:24:03,039 --> 01:24:05,119
is supposed to be a clue to Tom Cruise to

1385
01:24:05,199 --> 01:24:07,439
telling him what happened. He's trying to remember.

1386
01:24:07,319 --> 01:24:10,119
Speaker 5: Remember when Benny came back and he wasn't really had

1387
01:24:10,159 --> 01:24:11,520
no personality.

1388
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:17,399
Speaker 3: So this is Tom's subconscious in this virtual realm telling

1389
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:22,880
him in these clues what's really going on? Remember, then

1390
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,119
we find out, oh, by the way, you're a frozen

1391
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:32,119
and you're dead probably sort of. And you were last

1392
01:24:32,119 --> 01:24:34,960
alive when you were wandering around the city with the

1393
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,079
peneloty Cruise and you had that mask on. You fell

1394
01:24:37,079 --> 01:24:39,359
over in the street. That's when you went into a coma.

1395
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,520
Isn't he in a coma? Remember? He fell into a

1396
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coma and then they put him in and he had

1397
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,640
in a clause in his will or something that he

1398
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:54,119
would go to this elite cryogenics place, remember, and that

1399
01:24:54,239 --> 01:24:57,079
what it is, Tom coma?

1400
01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 5: I thought he was in a coma after the accident.

1401
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:11,039
Speaker 3: Tomk koom cruise what Yes, that was my good the one. Uh,

1402
01:25:11,159 --> 01:25:12,359
what do you mean? It was an accident.

1403
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,319
Speaker 5: He was in an accident before he went into the crowd,

1404
01:25:16,359 --> 01:25:18,479
and that's why.

1405
01:25:18,279 --> 01:25:24,039
Speaker 3: He chose that, I thought the last.

1406
01:25:24,319 --> 01:25:26,239
Speaker 5: And then he got out and he had a bad

1407
01:25:26,279 --> 01:25:28,399
face and he had a bad date, and that's when

1408
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:29,840
he chose to go.

1409
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 3: Yes. Was it suicide? Oh? Yeah, And they told him

1410
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,159
that they wiped his memory of doing it.

1411
01:25:36,319 --> 01:25:38,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so they're like, we'll start.

1412
01:25:38,279 --> 01:25:41,279
Speaker 4: You at the whatever whatever point you want to be.

1413
01:25:41,199 --> 01:25:44,279
Speaker 5: Starting you in and then so you don't know when

1414
01:25:44,279 --> 01:25:45,920
he's entered the.

1415
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the power up peoples of the of the

1416
01:25:49,239 --> 01:25:54,239
corporation signified the change of power in his life. Because

1417
01:25:55,159 --> 01:25:57,720
the whole message of this movie is that you are

1418
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,680
your own God. And when you figure out your your

1419
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:04,520
own God, you're no longer bound by your conscience telling

1420
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,920
you that you have a duty to sky God or

1421
01:26:10,079 --> 01:26:12,880
your father right, because your father figure is who is

1422
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:13,600
your authority?

1423
01:26:14,079 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 4: That's the the sky God is your archetype.

1424
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 3: Right, you blow the Father God or whatever that you

1425
01:26:20,079 --> 01:26:22,720
that you think you're morally bound to the whole point

1426
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,479
of this movie is that you're luciferianly free from all

1427
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:29,119
of these things if you will only wake up, and I'll.

1428
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,239
Speaker 5: Pay attention to all the synchronicities that are telling you.

1429
01:26:31,359 --> 01:26:34,239
Speaker 3: Yes, the synchronicities of life will mystically lead you to

1430
01:26:34,279 --> 01:26:39,439
your Luciferian awakenings. Yes, let's see. So he's on trial

1431
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:41,760
though for what beating her up? Right?

1432
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:42,560
Speaker 4: So you don't know.

1433
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:46,319
Speaker 3: If he's lost his mind, right, I mean, because we

1434
01:26:46,359 --> 01:26:48,079
know the end of the movie, But during the course

1435
01:26:48,079 --> 01:26:49,960
of the film, you don't know if he's lost his mind.

1436
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:51,520
Speaker 4: And he keeps seeing.

1437
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:56,600
Speaker 3: Penelope turned into Cameron Diaz and back and forth, and

1438
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,840
so he beats the crap out of her, right, and

1439
01:26:58,880 --> 01:26:59,840
then he goes to jail.

1440
01:27:01,119 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 4: Tom cringe is what I called it, Tom Cringe.

1441
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 3: And then Kurt Russell is trying to help him recall

1442
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:15,439
his memory. This is another thing with gnostic philosophy, is

1443
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:19,600
the idea that you have to recall your your true

1444
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:21,920
primeval state. We're all trying to recall. This is the

1445
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:26,880
whole platonic idea of metam psychosis and transmigration of souls

1446
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:30,920
is to recall what it was like in our god state,

1447
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,119
when we were the one, when we were God. Right,

1448
01:27:34,399 --> 01:27:39,800
because we've fallen into this this material world in that.

1449
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,319
Speaker 5: System, we forgot that we were gods man.

1450
01:27:42,239 --> 01:27:47,560
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, remember that you were God. Bro Let's see,

1451
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:51,760
I don't remember what. He gets facial reconstruction and he

1452
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:53,520
kind of looks sort of normal in.

1453
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,239
Speaker 5: His fantasy never coort.

1454
01:27:58,119 --> 01:28:00,279
Speaker 3: And then the stupidest part of this whole movie is

1455
01:28:00,319 --> 01:28:03,079
when he and this is actually a key to the

1456
01:28:03,119 --> 01:28:07,680
meaning of the movie, which is that awful song what

1457
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:13,560
if God was of us? Just a love one of us?

1458
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:17,319
And this is the clue to tell you that you're

1459
01:28:17,359 --> 01:28:21,039
in your own mental god world. Tom, We're in Tom

1460
01:28:21,119 --> 01:28:27,920
God world. Cringe Cruise, God, God Cruise, We're in God

1461
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:41,319
cruise mode. Remember that awful song, pure garbage. Uh. He

1462
01:28:41,359 --> 01:28:43,479
gets a pepto bismal mask. I don't know what that

1463
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,880
note means. It just looks like it's pink.

1464
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 4: Is this a dream?

1465
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,159
Speaker 3: Right? Oh?

1466
01:28:51,199 --> 01:28:53,239
Speaker 4: That was Another clue to the fact.

1467
01:28:53,039 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 3: That he was in the virtual dream state was that

1468
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,319
the cars didn't match up to the time period. Remember

1469
01:28:58,359 --> 01:29:02,000
that they were like if these cars and certain scenes,

1470
01:29:02,319 --> 01:29:04,000
So if you pay attention, you would notice some of

1471
01:29:04,039 --> 01:29:08,520
the scenes that you know that doesn't make sense. So

1472
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:13,920
he goes to his he meets hiss like his scientology

1473
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:17,359
handler dude who's creeping around following him around town. Who

1474
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,479
is the guy from the corporation the crowd genis corporation

1475
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:26,560
in reality sent in as a AI to tell him

1476
01:29:27,319 --> 01:29:34,119
or whatever that he's in his dream state virtual world.

1477
01:29:37,199 --> 01:29:41,359
They played a Bowie song and I started ground control

1478
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:48,039
to crazy Tom because he's going crazy. So Bowie, that's

1479
01:29:48,119 --> 01:29:54,520
my David Bowie. Wake up Tom. Oh. And there's also

1480
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:59,800
perhaps an MK culture Hollywood star meltdown. Remember how sometimes

1481
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,239
Brittany m Kelter's stars have the meltdown and they go

1482
01:30:03,319 --> 01:30:05,279
crazy or they beat up people and they don't know

1483
01:30:05,279 --> 01:30:05,760
what's going.

1484
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 5: On any of them.

1485
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:10,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, now I'm talking about the Tom Cruise character having

1486
01:30:10,399 --> 01:30:13,560
an altered mental melting. He can't remember and he doesn't

1487
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:16,920
know what happened. Yeah, So is there an mk Ulter

1488
01:30:17,039 --> 01:30:18,279
element to this? Maybe perhaps?

1489
01:30:20,199 --> 01:30:23,079
Speaker 4: And then the movie goes into the whole syllipsism.

1490
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:26,319
Speaker 3: Reality It is your mind, bro. Uh. The dream state

1491
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:31,279
blends with reality, so we have surrealism ewat shut. Obviously

1492
01:30:31,319 --> 01:30:33,960
we know from trom Novello. The actual story is a

1493
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:39,359
surrealist story. Kubrick says, iway shut is full of surrealism,

1494
01:30:40,239 --> 01:30:43,079
and then Kurt Russell says, you hold the keys to

1495
01:30:43,319 --> 01:30:46,960
this prison. That's another indicator that the movie is really

1496
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:49,640
that Tom has erected his own prison and he's got

1497
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:53,039
to just choose to see himself out of this through

1498
01:30:53,039 --> 01:30:57,359
the Luciferian keys to the Kingdom. Then he sees the

1499
01:30:57,359 --> 01:31:01,520
redheaded woman who is the you'll see her actually on

1500
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:05,199
posters in the movie. So there's multiple sequences where this

1501
01:31:05,279 --> 01:31:08,439
is this redheaded woman on this poster, and the reason

1502
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:12,039
Tom has placed her in his experience is because she's

1503
01:31:12,079 --> 01:31:16,680
the woman who works at the cryogenics lab. All the

1504
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:20,600
cryogenics people virtual world people in the real world are

1505
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:23,640
showing up in different places in his virtual world. You see,

1506
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:28,359
these are just clues. This is just like Inception. There's

1507
01:31:28,359 --> 01:31:30,199
two different ones. Tilda Swinton is in it, but the

1508
01:31:30,279 --> 01:31:33,840
receptionist girl who doesn't look like a crazy witch. It

1509
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:35,000
just looks like a normal girl.

1510
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 1: Uh.

1511
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 3: He keeps seeing her Hollywood mind control. I don't know

1512
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:47,479
what that means. He killed Sophia? Does he kill her?

1513
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:50,079
Speaker 5: Yeah? Remember he strangled her and that's why he's in

1514
01:31:50,159 --> 01:31:52,399
the prison with us because he killed her.

1515
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 3: Oh I thought he just beat her up, but he's

1516
01:31:54,159 --> 01:32:00,560
he's in there from and remember the Cringe love making scene.

1517
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:10,000
How bad that was? Coomb Cruise down Control. It's crazy Tom.

1518
01:32:10,359 --> 01:32:13,119
Speaker 5: That's another thing about all these VR movies is like

1519
01:32:13,159 --> 01:32:15,279
a bunch of Coomers. That's all they do is like.

1520
01:32:15,279 --> 01:32:18,039
Speaker 3: Get in the VR and well that's what everybody thinks

1521
01:32:18,079 --> 01:32:20,760
of virtual reality. Oh what can I put my peep in?

1522
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:24,199
Speaker 5: That's what's coming next.

1523
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:35,319
Speaker 3: Gone Control to Major kom And the reason that this

1524
01:32:35,399 --> 01:32:39,520
movie has the sixties soundtrack is because he works as

1525
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,119
the head of Rolling Stone or whatever it is supposed to.

1526
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:43,119
You didn't get that.

1527
01:32:43,279 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, Cameron Crow always classics.

1528
01:32:47,279 --> 01:32:47,800
Speaker 2: In his.

1529
01:32:49,159 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 3: Uh. I had another joke something about Tom cringe and

1530
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:56,319
I forgot what it was. Oh. I can only do

1531
01:32:56,399 --> 01:32:59,359
the Tom.

1532
01:32:59,399 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 4: That's all I can with Tom. That's the only time

1533
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:03,239
Cruise something.

1534
01:33:03,079 --> 01:33:06,079
Speaker 5: Crazy about his teeth, like they're not centered.

1535
01:33:06,199 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 3: He has rebel teeth.

1536
01:33:07,159 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 1: He had.

1537
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 5: His whole upper teeth are rebels, all of them.

1538
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:14,159
Speaker 4: You've got a Luciferian.

1539
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 3: Rebellion going on amongst teeth, amongst his molars. Left hand

1540
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:27,319
path molars. Uh, where are we at? The subconscious is

1541
01:33:27,319 --> 01:33:34,680
all powerful? Kurt Russell tells him that's changed that Kurt

1542
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:40,880
is his guardian angel character, his father archetype. Oh the

1543
01:33:41,119 --> 01:33:44,800
the there's an interesting clue. One of the neat parts

1544
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:46,560
of the movie is all the clues. Right, So if

1545
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,199
you're paying attention to the clues, you you probably have

1546
01:33:49,239 --> 01:33:50,920
to watch this movie extra couple of times through or

1547
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:54,439
you wouldn't notice this stuff. But there's a guy who's

1548
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:57,279
the guy who has the dog that went into the

1549
01:33:57,359 --> 01:34:02,119
crowdgenis state on the TV and the guy's wearing a

1550
01:34:02,119 --> 01:34:05,840
T shirt and it says something and then L I

1551
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:09,680
E stands out, So it's telling you that the it's

1552
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:10,079
a lie.

1553
01:34:10,279 --> 01:34:12,159
Speaker 4: The reality that he's in is a lot right.

1554
01:34:12,319 --> 01:34:14,039
Speaker 5: Oh is that the life?

1555
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1556
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:16,039
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1557
01:34:16,079 --> 01:34:19,520
Speaker 3: And then the life extension but their acronym is l

1558
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:20,319
I E lie.

1559
01:34:21,199 --> 01:34:21,319
Speaker 2: Uh.

1560
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:23,359
Speaker 3: And then there was something to do with seventy two

1561
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:27,840
and Kabala. What was that? I don't remember. There was

1562
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:30,319
something that seventy two comes up, but that's an important

1563
01:34:30,399 --> 01:34:33,640
number and Kabbalism, there are seventy two names of God

1564
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:36,760
and Kabala, right, But seventy two was in the film

1565
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:42,960
for some reason. Prominently, there was something to do with

1566
01:34:43,079 --> 01:34:47,039
DNA and life extension. I don't remember this, but they what.

1567
01:34:47,279 --> 01:34:50,079
Speaker 5: This is like that TV show that I watched without you.

1568
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:54,800
I don't know what that is, the one about upload

1569
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:58,720
yourself into the cloud, the cloud before you die.

1570
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 3: I haven't seen that. I don't know. He chooses this

1571
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:07,800
is the other reason we know this is a Luciferian

1572
01:35:08,199 --> 01:35:11,920
themed movie is he chooses the Lucid Dream option package

1573
01:35:12,039 --> 01:35:14,720
for when he goes to the cryogenic company and they're like, okay, well,

1574
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:16,960
when we freeze you, you can either just be there

1575
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,079
waiting until in the future we can save your life,

1576
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:25,680
or you can enter into the cryptotainment excuse me, cry

1577
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:29,000
attainment option, which is where you get to live in

1578
01:35:29,039 --> 01:35:34,720
your own universe. You could you get to be Tom God.

1579
01:35:35,119 --> 01:35:42,800
And then a song plays, I have a universe inside

1580
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:46,159
of me, and that's another key clue to what's going

1581
01:35:46,159 --> 01:35:52,520
on here. So he chooses that option. He chose to

1582
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:55,319
have his memory wiped, which is option because in the

1583
01:35:55,399 --> 01:35:59,520
MK Ultra programs they have discussed wiping people's minds. They

1584
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:03,720
discussed people with trauma. Soldiers with trauma have undergone testing

1585
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:07,199
to have their memories wiped. All this stuff is real,

1586
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:11,720
and eternal sunshine is spole is money. They do refer

1587
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:15,359
to resurrection, and but here resurrection means you stay in

1588
01:36:15,399 --> 01:36:19,920
the cryotainment state until in the future we figure out

1589
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:25,000
how to prolonged life and give you transhumanist immortality. So

1590
01:36:25,039 --> 01:36:27,520
that's why we find out. That's what's going on. And

1591
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,520
the final sequence is that, bro, this is a revolution,

1592
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:34,359
a revolution of the mind. It's the final frontier, which

1593
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:38,520
is there's a quote they say, everybody used to laugh

1594
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:42,159
at Jules Verne, but now we have a revolution of

1595
01:36:42,199 --> 01:36:46,279
the mind. Right, So it ends with I'm taking up

1596
01:36:46,359 --> 01:36:49,960
good vibrations. Right. So the Beach Boys, we all know,

1597
01:36:50,039 --> 01:36:52,359
the Beach Boys is all directly tied into the MK

1598
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:58,279
culture of Manson mind controls, sixties counterculture, Crowley stuff.

1599
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:01,640
Speaker 4: And guess who else is tied.

1600
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:07,079
Speaker 3: Into the sixties counter culture Manson, Crowley stuff, l Ron Hubbard.

1601
01:37:08,039 --> 01:37:12,119
Where does Tom go to church? Where does Tom go

1602
01:37:12,199 --> 01:37:17,960
to church? Yes, so hence the counter culture. This will

1603
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:20,760
be relevant for tomorrow's show with Isaac. You guys will

1604
01:37:21,079 --> 01:37:25,319
want to hear this where we cover Marjorie Cameron. What

1605
01:37:25,359 --> 01:37:28,079
do they call it? The Oasis Project. Yeah, So basically,

1606
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,439
the life extension company has gone out of business because

1607
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:33,039
it's like five hundred years in the future, I don't know,

1608
01:37:33,079 --> 01:37:35,720
something like that. But now it's some other company that

1609
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:39,319
owns it. And you are your own God. If you

1610
01:37:39,319 --> 01:37:42,359
want to stay in this world, your mind is God,

1611
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:44,760
and everything in your world is your creation. You just

1612
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:50,359
live in your own memory dream state basically. And so

1613
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:53,399
we figure out that he is actually the architect of

1614
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:58,159
his own world. And this architect needed its Sophia principle

1615
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:06,439
in the alchemical stuff, right, that's always the case. But

1616
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:08,960
did he did? He say wanted to wake up? And

1617
01:38:09,079 --> 01:38:10,640
at the point, like they said, he.

1618
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 5: Was like, that's why everything was going wrong because to

1619
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:16,119
wake up.

1620
01:38:16,199 --> 01:38:19,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, And but Tom had chosen the option that to

1621
01:38:19,279 --> 01:38:21,239
wake up, he had to face his fear, which was

1622
01:38:21,239 --> 01:38:23,920
to jump off the building. Yes, that was the key

1623
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:27,880
to time to wake up. So and he chooses to jump,

1624
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:31,359
does he wake up? Yeah, that's the last sequence of

1625
01:38:31,399 --> 01:38:39,600
his eye opening. Yeah. Okay. Oh. What was interesting is

1626
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:42,399
that he had to rid himself of the father archetype.

1627
01:38:43,119 --> 01:38:46,399
Speaker 5: Oh, because his dad was the mogul or the Kurt

1628
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:48,920
Rustle you need. Oh yeah.

1629
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:51,199
Speaker 3: So in other words, in order to become your own God.

1630
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:54,239
You're gonna have to rid yourself of thinking that you

1631
01:38:54,279 --> 01:38:57,600
need the god, the father archetype you see you are.

1632
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:00,319
Speaker 5: Because he's just a projection of your imagination exactly.

1633
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 3: And yeah, then Tom says, I want to live a

1634
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:06,239
real life.

1635
01:39:06,239 --> 01:39:07,359
Speaker 4: I don't want to be in the matrix.

1636
01:39:08,359 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 3: So he had previously been a Tom Sickle, he had

1637
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:14,359
been Coom Cruise, he had been Tom kOhm And now

1638
01:39:14,399 --> 01:39:19,039
he's illuminate Cohon Fern and his eye opens up. And

1639
01:39:19,079 --> 01:39:24,640
that's the last sequence. That is another guy, last one.

1640
01:39:25,479 --> 01:39:26,119
Speaker 4: Can we do it?

1641
01:39:27,239 --> 01:39:28,760
Speaker 3: By the way, we got a couple of super chats,

1642
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:31,880
we got some generous people. Finally throwing in that fat

1643
01:39:32,079 --> 01:39:36,439
cash our buddy, Dick Rawl says, for three dollars, do

1644
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:40,159
you have a po so you can start playing that, Bro,

1645
01:39:40,279 --> 01:39:42,840
I ain't gonna say that on its channel. Come on now,

1646
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:49,720
come on now, Dicky Rawl fawns for five dollars. Now, no, homie,

1647
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:53,359
they're not getting rid of me that easily. Don't worry, bro,

1648
01:39:54,079 --> 01:39:59,479
don't worry, Bro. Janey Sophia interesting name, twenty five fat ones.

1649
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:03,680
I'm a longtime listener. Your lectures led me to orthodoxy. Well,

1650
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:05,239
God bless you. That's great. That's what we want to

1651
01:40:05,239 --> 01:40:08,880
hear tonight. We're just clowning around though with our classic

1652
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:14,079
esoteric Hollywood style Tall City ten bucks. Thank you both,

1653
01:40:14,119 --> 01:40:16,359
God bless. Do you have any thoughts on Michael Heiser

1654
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:20,479
or doing Unseen Realm. I've only read his Divine Council stuff,

1655
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:23,439
so I don't know about the actual book. I read

1656
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:25,640
the papers long ago before he had published the books,

1657
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:28,520
so I think his work's good. I have any problem

1658
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:29,520
with what I've read?

1659
01:40:30,359 --> 01:40:32,119
Speaker 4: Maybe down the road, Yeah, we can do that.

1660
01:40:33,079 --> 01:40:37,079
Speaker 3: Okay, two and eighty thirds still still here.

1661
01:40:37,359 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 4: Thank you for those super chats.

1662
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 3: Everybody. Everybody like my Tom kun jokes. Come on now,

1663
01:40:44,119 --> 01:40:47,800
that was yeah, that's good. Oh you can't read this,

1664
01:40:48,199 --> 01:40:50,000
so you won't read the ones that are These aren't

1665
01:40:50,039 --> 01:40:51,319
that bad.

1666
01:40:51,359 --> 01:40:51,960
Speaker 5: I can't read.

1667
01:40:55,119 --> 01:41:00,520
Speaker 3: This is probably like down control to ma to koom.

1668
01:41:03,199 --> 01:41:10,960
It's crazy, Tom crazy. That's that's funny, dude.

1669
01:41:11,279 --> 01:41:12,600
Speaker 5: I don't know what we're talking about.

1670
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:16,560
Speaker 3: David Bowie, Tom Cruise. I'm happy because Tom Cruise goes

1671
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:21,479
crazy in this movie, acts like he doesn't reach he

1672
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:22,760
doesn't reach Nick Cage level.

1673
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:27,319
Speaker 4: That's not the dirty of a joke. It's funny.

1674
01:41:27,319 --> 01:41:30,039
Speaker 3: To call him kun Cruise with Tom Kum the way

1675
01:41:30,039 --> 01:41:33,640
he acts in that movie. All right, Video Drome. Uh,

1676
01:41:34,399 --> 01:41:39,319
After Scanners and reviewing Video Drome, I am much more

1677
01:41:39,319 --> 01:41:43,680
impressed with David Cronenberg. I'm a new David Cronenberg fan.

1678
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:46,680
I mean, I always liked kind of some of those movies,

1679
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:50,279
but uh, there's quite a bit of revelatory stuff in

1680
01:41:50,319 --> 01:41:53,880
the Scanners, and I like existence the second time through.

1681
01:41:54,039 --> 01:41:57,840
And this is about my fourth time seeing Video Drome,

1682
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:00,439
and every time I watch Video Drome, I noticed new things.

1683
01:42:01,279 --> 01:42:05,720
And once I noticed the MK Ultra Assassin stuff in

1684
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:09,600
Video Drone, which I never noticed before. Now I really

1685
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:11,079
like David Croneberg.

1686
01:42:11,159 --> 01:42:12,239
Speaker 4: I think it's pretty badass.

1687
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:17,399
Speaker 3: He's almost like a weirder gooier John Carpenter.

1688
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:22,840
Speaker 5: Yeah. I like Peter Jackson his stuff have you seen not?

1689
01:42:25,119 --> 01:42:27,720
But his other stuff is pretty weird andoy like that.

1690
01:42:28,159 --> 01:42:31,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, But there's just like a certain feel to the

1691
01:42:31,199 --> 01:42:34,640
David Croneberg movies. They all have it. It's kind of

1692
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:36,640
like David unless shes got his own style. Yeah, you know,

1693
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:40,840
John Carpenter has his own style. Anyway. So we see

1694
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:43,920
at the beginning a sleek James Woods working at a

1695
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:49,359
sleazy TV channel called Civic TV. It's a small cable

1696
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:54,479
access type of channel, and they're trying to h it's

1697
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:56,800
the station that you take to bed with you. In

1698
01:42:56,840 --> 01:43:00,359
other words, they play degenerate, right at the end edge

1699
01:43:00,399 --> 01:43:04,479
of what the communications decency people allow.

1700
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:08,359
Speaker 5: Remember usay up all Night, It's kind of like that.

1701
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, James Woods is basically playing like the director of

1702
01:43:13,039 --> 01:43:17,520
USA Up all Night or the station manager type of guy.

1703
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:21,079
So what we see him originally doing is trying to

1704
01:43:21,159 --> 01:43:24,319
broker a deal with some weird Japanese guys who have

1705
01:43:24,399 --> 01:43:30,279
created some softcore erotic type of movie that's he watches, says,

1706
01:43:30,279 --> 01:43:31,079
this is too soft.

1707
01:43:31,079 --> 01:43:32,520
Speaker 4: It's no good. Nobody's gonna like this.

1708
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:37,560
Speaker 3: So James Woods has it in his head that he

1709
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:39,560
wants to push the limits. He's like, we need to.

1710
01:43:40,199 --> 01:43:42,640
We got to, you know, go all in here and

1711
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:44,960
really push the limits. And if we put out some

1712
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:49,640
really degenerate, gross, weird stuff, we'll really get new viewers. Right,

1713
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:52,520
That's what people are craving is something new and degenerating, weird.

1714
01:43:53,199 --> 01:43:57,600
So as he's on this, he's talking to his satellite

1715
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:01,880
nerd guy up in the station thing with whatever, all

1716
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:05,039
the tech stuff. This tech dude. Nerd picks up this station,

1717
01:44:06,159 --> 01:44:10,800
which appears to be a Malaysian s n uff thing.

1718
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,520
Doesn't really show this, so don't don't worry about it.

1719
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:16,399
I mean, it's it's probably a rated R movie, but

1720
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:21,840
that's what the movie is implying. It's something akin to

1721
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:26,439
eight millimeter type of a thing. Max is agame. Max

1722
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:30,119
Wren is the James Woods character, and so he's immediately entranced.

1723
01:44:30,119 --> 01:44:31,439
He's like, Oh, there we go. That's what we want.

1724
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:35,600
We want something edgy like this Malaysian torture movie.

1725
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 2: Here.

1726
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:37,680
Speaker 4: He says, let's put this on.

1727
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:42,560
Speaker 3: It'll be violence galore, it'll be the next big thing.

1728
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:48,680
How is it connected to pressor Professor Oblivion? There's something

1729
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:50,840
to do with Professor Oblivion. I forget how that's the.

1730
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:53,079
Speaker 5: Guy who's only on VHS's.

1731
01:44:55,159 --> 01:44:56,840
Speaker 3: I know that, but I know that, But how does

1732
01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:58,800
he connect to the station? I can't remember.

1733
01:45:00,319 --> 01:45:04,520
Speaker 5: Isn't that where they're getting the the feed.

1734
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 3: I don't think the feed's coming from He says that

1735
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:12,359
maybe it is. Anyway, we'll set that aside for a minute,

1736
01:45:12,359 --> 01:45:17,039
but we have an interesting phrase. The TV is the

1737
01:45:17,079 --> 01:45:20,439
retina of the mind's eye. That's an interesting there's a.

1738
01:45:20,399 --> 01:45:24,279
Speaker 5: Lot of one liners in here that are kind of meaningful.

1739
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:29,039
Speaker 3: So I think he does track down some association between

1740
01:45:29,039 --> 01:45:33,319
this weird signal that's being sent out and this Professor Oblivion,

1741
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:37,199
like oh dash, like he's Iris or something, right, Uh.

1742
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:41,279
And then he goes to meet with Professor Oblivion and

1743
01:45:41,319 --> 01:45:46,439
he lives atop a homeless shelter. He's got this weird

1744
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:50,319
palatial condo over this homeless shelter, and all the homeless

1745
01:45:50,319 --> 01:45:54,960
people have TVs. There's cubicles with TVs, and we find

1746
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:57,119
out he's experimenting on all the homeless people.

1747
01:45:57,199 --> 01:46:00,720
Speaker 5: That's their therapy. He thinks they don't fit into society

1748
01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:01,600
because they haven't had.

1749
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:05,279
Speaker 3: So they have to be socialized through TV to heal them.

1750
01:46:05,319 --> 01:46:09,840
So but Professor Oblivion supposedly says TV can save society,

1751
01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:13,079
and so James Woods like, all right, well I got

1752
01:46:13,159 --> 01:46:14,920
to meet this guy. This sounds crazy. So he goes

1753
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:18,680
and he can't meet with him because he's only on

1754
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:24,079
TV on TV, so he's meta TV. You remember that part, Oh.

1755
01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:25,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, because he goes on that talk show.

1756
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:28,560
Speaker 3: But when he goes on the talk show, they'd have

1757
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:31,479
to wheel out a TV to be his character on

1758
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:32,079
the talk show.

1759
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 4: So there's meta level.

1760
01:46:35,039 --> 01:46:39,039
Speaker 3: Metaphysics questions that, as we saw in the Existence, David

1761
01:46:39,079 --> 01:46:40,720
Cronenberg is asking this kind.

1762
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 5: Of question, right, all of these have a kind of

1763
01:46:43,039 --> 01:46:45,039
inceptional Yes, exactly.

1764
01:46:47,159 --> 01:46:49,079
Speaker 3: He talks about the cathode ray tube, but we know

1765
01:46:49,159 --> 01:46:52,920
that that has a golden dawn esoteric origin, right, the

1766
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:59,439
Crooks Tube. Max says, I want a movie that I

1767
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:03,479
want show or a streaming network that's no plot, just moaning,

1768
01:47:04,119 --> 01:47:07,399
and by that he means torture and murder. So he

1769
01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:09,880
meets up with a chick who becomes his new girlfriend,

1770
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:14,399
Debbie Harry Blondie. And by the way, if you didn't notice,

1771
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:17,760
Blondie was hanging out with I think Marina Abramovich, which

1772
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:20,800
is interesting. Well, it turns out Debbie Harry, who's the

1773
01:47:21,399 --> 01:47:24,720
supposedly the moral psychiatric character, she's a psychologist or something

1774
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:27,760
like that. So she turns out to really enjoy the

1775
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:32,600
bead creepy bonded stuff, right, So she likes this kind

1776
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:36,880
of stuff. The more that James Woods is watching this

1777
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,319
kind of stuff to try to find these creepy TV shows,

1778
01:47:39,359 --> 01:47:41,520
the more he's into it. Just like the Nick Cage

1779
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:45,079
character in eight millimenter, right. So it's almost like the

1780
01:47:46,239 --> 01:47:49,399
Debbie Harry. She's leading him down into more and more

1781
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:51,920
of this degeneracy and she's like, ooh, let's make out

1782
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:54,479
and do this, this, this right. And then it's even

1783
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:56,960
to the point where they're like drinking blood right or

1784
01:47:57,000 --> 01:48:00,760
tasting it. I should say this is the idea of

1785
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:04,960
the theater of brutality, that the toxic media would have

1786
01:48:05,039 --> 01:48:07,840
the power and the ability to brutalize the public. The

1787
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:11,800
degradation of the flesh. That's the whole point of this movie.

1788
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:15,760
So there's a gnostic component, which is the hatred of

1789
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:19,880
the flesh which underlies this movie. Now what's interesting is

1790
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:24,600
that James Woods keeps insisting that the there's a race

1791
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:27,680
to the degeneracy and it calls to mind like the

1792
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:35,119
old Faces of Death Mondo video type stuff. Here, let's

1793
01:48:35,119 --> 01:48:38,000
see I covered this part. Oh, when we're in so

1794
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:41,920
when he's by the way, when he's in Professor Oblivion's office,

1795
01:48:42,039 --> 01:48:45,439
it's all religious iconography. There's icons. I think there's an

1796
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:49,279
icon there's a Shiva the Destroyer there. So he represents

1797
01:48:49,319 --> 01:48:52,479
like the far off father figure. They call him the

1798
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:56,479
father God. He's Father Oblivion and he runs this weird

1799
01:48:56,560 --> 01:49:03,640
mission right, which is this mind control place. He says,

1800
01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:09,119
the difference between you and video Drome is that videodrome

1801
01:49:09,159 --> 01:49:11,960
has a philosophy. This is what he tells Max Wren,

1802
01:49:12,119 --> 01:49:16,319
the Oblivion character who we don't we never see Oblivion.

1803
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 4: And James Woods is he's obsessed with this by now.

1804
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:22,159
Speaker 3: He says, look, I gotta get access to this signal,

1805
01:49:22,199 --> 01:49:23,439
to the show, to the station.

1806
01:49:24,119 --> 01:49:25,239
Speaker 4: He says, I can't figure it out.

1807
01:49:25,359 --> 01:49:27,039
Speaker 3: What do you mean it has a philosophy, And he

1808
01:49:27,079 --> 01:49:31,000
says that the philosophy of video Drome is that TV

1809
01:49:31,199 --> 01:49:43,039
becomes reality. The more Max stays in video Drome, meaning

1810
01:49:43,079 --> 01:49:45,520
his obsession with it, watching it, watching it over and

1811
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:48,439
over and over and getting access to these tapes, the

1812
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:52,840
more it starts to rewire his brain and he starts

1813
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:56,720
seeing things. It actually changes his perception of reality. So

1814
01:49:56,840 --> 01:50:00,840
this is all an allegory for mass media, for TV.

1815
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:05,159
I mean, David Cronenberg is correct in this. He's telling

1816
01:50:05,199 --> 01:50:09,800
us correctly. What's actually going on, and what starts to

1817
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:13,079
happen is that the VHS and the TV world starts

1818
01:50:13,119 --> 01:50:16,560
to come alive. And there's even a statement made at

1819
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:19,880
one point that TV is there. I think it's the

1820
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:21,680
Deep Stay guys. You remember when the guys from the

1821
01:50:22,319 --> 01:50:26,199
secret government show up and they're like, the battle for

1822
01:50:26,279 --> 01:50:30,479
the mind of North America is being fought in the television,

1823
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:34,399
in the video drum. Yeah, so TV is intended to

1824
01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:39,199
become reality in the simulacrum. Your reality is half simulation.

1825
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:44,159
And this is what Oblivion eventually tells Max Renn. He says,

1826
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:49,279
the vision that you're watching, the frequencies and the screens,

1827
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:54,479
he says, they're causing tumors in your head. Then he says,

1828
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:58,880
the tumor is alive. The tumor is video drum, and

1829
01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:00,800
it's a virus in your mind.

1830
01:51:01,359 --> 01:51:05,159
Speaker 5: It's just like Joint and Monica that the technology is

1831
01:51:05,239 --> 01:51:05,920
making them ill.

1832
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:09,920
Speaker 4: And then this is when it gets really crazy.

1833
01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:15,119
Speaker 3: The Deep State men in black operator operas operators who

1834
01:51:15,159 --> 01:51:19,680
come to Max wren They say, guess what, Max, your

1835
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:24,319
video drum's first victim. We chose you to be the

1836
01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:28,680
scientific mind control experiment to see what we could do

1837
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:32,680
with programming you through the video drum. He says, all

1838
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:35,960
of it. Your tech nerd guy. He works for us, basically,

1839
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:39,640
the NSA, And he says, not only that, we're going

1840
01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:42,399
to program you to see what we can and can't

1841
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:47,960
do with this, and surprise, shocker, they program him to

1842
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:54,399
be an MK ultra assassin, a killer. He says, I

1843
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:57,920
Max Wrenn, the James Wood character, says he finally realizes

1844
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:00,920
what's going on. He says, I was video drums first victim. No, no, no,

1845
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:03,840
I'm sorry, Professor Oblivion, I'm sorry who says I'm a

1846
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:06,439
video drones first victim? Because he ends up dead and

1847
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:09,000
you find out there is no Professor Oblivion. There's just

1848
01:52:09,119 --> 01:52:14,640
tapes of this guy. The virtual world starts becoming real.

1849
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:21,600
It starts seeping into the mind of James Woods. The

1850
01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:24,119
point of all this is that the mind itself, that

1851
01:52:24,279 --> 01:52:27,760
the TV is a mind virus. It's all about signals, warfare,

1852
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signals research, signals intelligence. The signals caused the brain tumor

1853
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and the hallucinations. Doctor Oblivion is the first v logger,

1854
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which is interesting. He is. We find out he's the

1855
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co creator of video Drone. But the reason he's dead

1856
01:52:44,039 --> 01:52:47,399
is because he thought that television could be a thing

1857
01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:51,079
that could educate people. But the deep state, the military

1858
01:52:51,079 --> 01:52:55,800
industrial complex, grabbed up all of the technology and weaponized

1859
01:52:55,800 --> 01:53:01,479
it to create a tumor giving toxic system, and the

1860
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:05,279
tumor is a new organ that's developing. Remember the weird

1861
01:53:05,399 --> 01:53:10,159
organs in existence, right, Cronenberg has a thing for organs.

1862
01:53:13,199 --> 01:53:18,439
What does that say? Something doses of signal greater and

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01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:21,560
greater doses of the signal will create the tumors in

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the mind of the public. And then through the signal

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01:53:25,359 --> 01:53:28,560
that's sent out, I think they live. Remember the signal

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01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:36,640
that's being sent out, they can alter everyone's perception. So

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the purpose of the gun and him putting the gun

1868
01:53:40,039 --> 01:53:42,960
in his stomach and all this polling it out, this

1869
01:53:43,079 --> 01:53:52,439
is because he's being programmed for a cathode ray mission, right,

1870
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:54,760
So that the cathode ray mission is where he goes

1871
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:58,159
to meet Professor Obliving where they're experimenting on the hoboes.

1872
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But he's also being pro for a cathode a mission,

1873
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meaning that yes, to go do a mass bang bang event.

1874
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So that's the crazy part of this is that he

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is told that he has to by the deep state

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people through the signals, he has to go and shoot

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up do a bang bang at his TV station. And

1878
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then crazy part we find out that the cover front

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company behind all this is called Spectacular Optical and they

1880
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are a lens development company that also creates lenses for

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01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:41,680
the Deep Stay and missile guidance services for NATO. So

1882
01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:49,199
it's a defense contractor company that makes refracted lenses that's

1883
01:54:49,279 --> 01:54:53,760
engaged in psychological warfare to test to see if TV

1884
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screens and lenses can send a signal to program the public.

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And it just so happens that James Woods is the

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test subject for the assassination program, so he becomes a

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mind controlled assassin. It took me like four times to

1888
01:55:11,479 --> 01:55:13,199
watching this movie to figure that out because it's a

1889
01:55:13,239 --> 01:55:17,800
really weird surrealist movie. But once I like now, it's like, oh,

1890
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:19,800
that's totally what this mean. That's why they mentioned him

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01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:21,640
working for the for the ferd Nado.

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Speaker 5: Just like all the other ones in this batch is

1893
01:55:24,079 --> 01:55:25,840
like confabulation of reality.

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Speaker 3: And but they make it very clear that he is

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01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:33,520
sent on a assassination program mission because eventually the girl

1896
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says she she has the key key phrase. What does

1897
01:55:38,199 --> 01:55:42,439
she say? She says, you are the weapon you've aceived

1898
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:45,439
received your killer programming m hm. And so he's just

1899
01:55:45,479 --> 01:55:49,760
a patsy. He's just a patsy for this test. Anyway,

1900
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:51,119
let me I don't want to get ahead of myself

1901
01:55:51,119 --> 01:55:57,560
because this is this is crazy. He dissociates. Uh, he

1902
01:55:57,680 --> 01:56:00,960
kills an old woman I think at some point, but

1903
01:56:01,039 --> 01:56:03,199
he's starting to not be able to realize what's real.

1904
01:56:04,399 --> 01:56:06,680
He doesn't even know if he has a body, so

1905
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:09,119
he's he's got alters. He's dissociating.

1906
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:12,119
Speaker 5: He becomes one with his weapon.

1907
01:56:12,079 --> 01:56:15,640
Speaker 3: Weapon, because he is a weapon. Now he's a weapon.

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01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:23,359
The guy that he the nerd at his the nerdy

1909
01:56:23,399 --> 01:56:26,079
tech guy, turns out to be an NSA deep state guy.

1910
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He's a plant that was put there by the Milter

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01:56:28,079 --> 01:56:33,279
Indotional Complex company, he says. He tells James Woods, he says,

1912
01:56:33,319 --> 01:56:35,239
the whole point of this was to expose you to

1913
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:40,600
the signal to videodrome, to get you involved. And he's like,

1914
01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:43,560
would you James Woods, so you've never seen it, He's like,

1915
01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:45,199
why would I watch any of that stuff? He's like,

1916
01:56:45,199 --> 01:56:48,279
it's degenerate, it just destroys you. So the deep state

1917
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people don't watch it. Then they put a virtual reality

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01:56:52,159 --> 01:56:56,199
apparatus on James Woods and he has to sit there

1919
01:56:56,279 --> 01:56:59,159
and get programmed to another even greater level by this

1920
01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:03,079
VR apparatus. And this is what programs him to go

1921
01:57:03,159 --> 01:57:04,319
do the assassination.

1922
01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:07,880
Speaker 5: That was weird because after he put the apparatus on,

1923
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they never showed him take it off, so anything after

1924
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:15,359
that could have been deeper into the.

1925
01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:18,319
Speaker 3: That's a good point, you know, anyway. But so he

1926
01:57:18,399 --> 01:57:20,359
is the patsy though. I think we're supposed to think

1927
01:57:20,359 --> 01:57:22,840
that he really is doing a killing though, because he

1928
01:57:23,239 --> 01:57:25,880
becomes a killing machine. He goes and does his assassination thing.

1929
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:30,000
And she says, they can play you now the girl,

1930
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that woman that he saw originally, Video Drum is death,

1931
01:57:35,079 --> 01:57:37,399
and he says, you are death. You are the program,

1932
01:57:37,479 --> 01:57:45,720
the program programming, TV programming, you are the program. The

1933
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:47,239
cassette is the program.

1934
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Speaker 5: You become one with a net in the other ones,

1935
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you're one with the video drum.

1936
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Speaker 3: And then we have these weird phrases where he says,

1937
01:57:54,079 --> 01:57:55,960
I am the video cassette made flesh. I am the

1938
01:57:56,039 --> 01:57:59,800
video word made flesh. So it's like the new God basically.

1939
01:58:01,279 --> 01:58:03,479
Then he decides that he's had enough of this stuff

1940
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:07,159
and Video Drome must be destroyed. He starts chanting death,

1941
01:58:07,159 --> 01:58:10,359
the video Drome long lived the new Flesh. So he

1942
01:58:10,439 --> 01:58:13,359
ends up killing his nerd handler and then he goes

1943
01:58:13,479 --> 01:58:18,960
to the conference where there's the Deep State handler guy

1944
01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:21,920
who works at Spectacular Optical is showing off the new

1945
01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:26,880
line of lenses for glasses. There we see a lot

1946
01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:28,920
of all seeing eye imagery that's there on purpose, and

1947
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:33,880
they call it the Medici line. That's interesting, Black nobility, right,

1948
01:58:35,239 --> 01:58:37,880
this is the time period when optics was beginning to

1949
01:58:37,960 --> 01:58:38,840
become a science.

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Speaker 5: She masks too.

1951
01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:46,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's not really any masks in this movie.

1952
01:58:46,039 --> 01:58:49,439
Speaker 5: Except that they were any other movies.

1953
01:58:53,319 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 3: There's a giant quote of Lorenzo de Medici, the love

1954
01:58:56,680 --> 01:59:01,640
of the eye, the soul, et cetera. Something about the

1955
01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:06,000
Sistine Chapel comes up. Renaissance optics science is what this

1956
01:59:06,119 --> 01:59:12,920
is referring to. We must undergo a total transformation, kill

1957
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:14,920
the old flesh to become the new flesh. Don't be

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01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:18,560
afraid to.

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Speaker 4: Let the body die.

1960
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Speaker 3: And then we see James woulds apparently die. So I

1961
01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:26,319
my reading of this is that it's like an MK

1962
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:31,039
delta assassination programming. He goes to kill himself after he's

1963
01:59:31,039 --> 01:59:34,479
done his job of assassinating, so he assassinates to him

1964
01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:39,079
he's supposed to assassinate, and then he goes and he

1965
01:59:38,600 --> 01:59:40,800
he's run out of the city and he's living in

1966
01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:43,640
this little shack and he sees a TV and the

1967
01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:45,560
TV says, it's time for you to ascend to the

1968
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:48,600
next phase. Go ahead and get ready of your flesh.

1969
01:59:49,399 --> 01:59:54,479
Is this just his suicide programming as an assassin? What

1970
01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:55,000
do you think?

1971
01:59:56,560 --> 01:59:59,119
Speaker 5: Yeah? I think that was my second time watching it,

1972
01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:02,399
and the first time I didn't know a whole lot

1973
02:00:02,439 --> 02:00:05,640
about what we're talking about.

1974
02:00:06,279 --> 02:00:09,439
Speaker 3: So well, it was a fun, fun bunch of how

1975
02:00:09,439 --> 02:00:15,680
many uh what's what was the goody's grossest thing in

1976
02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:16,239
that movie.

1977
02:00:17,840 --> 02:00:19,319
Speaker 5: When he opens his belly.

1978
02:00:19,479 --> 02:00:23,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what everybody remembers. How many.

1979
02:00:25,840 --> 02:00:26,239
Speaker 5: Googun?

1980
02:00:26,399 --> 02:00:29,880
Speaker 3: How many hand goog guns? Do you give it?

1981
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:31,279
Speaker 2: All right?

1982
02:00:31,560 --> 02:00:37,399
Speaker 3: All right, thank you guys, We're done. Paul City was

1983
02:00:37,399 --> 02:00:39,119
the last one. Thank you guys for the super chats.

1984
02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:41,760
This was a lot of fun virtual worlds. I don't

1985
02:00:41,760 --> 02:00:45,239
think the optimism of the eighties and nineties about what

1986
02:00:45,279 --> 02:00:48,000
the net and the virtual realm would be has actually

1987
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:51,399
come to play come into play. Rather, I think we're

1988
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:57,000
entering into the dystopia and not the the fun surfing

1989
02:00:57,119 --> 02:00:59,439
the web phase of what everybody thought it would be.

1990
02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:02,560
So I'm gonna say the best of these movies is

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02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:08,760
probably Videodrome after that Vanilla Sky existence, and then the

1992
02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:14,039
other ones are more comical. All right, God bless everybody,

1993
02:01:14,039 --> 02:01:14,520
have a good night.