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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up at bottom of this hour. The progress is

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<v Speaker 2>hard to nail down when it comes to recovering from

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<v Speaker 2>the wildfires. On the one hand, you've got home actually

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<v Speaker 2>being built in Palisades, and then in Altadena you've got

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<v Speaker 2>no permits being issued. This is the worst case scenario

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<v Speaker 2>for people who have already suffered three months after the

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<v Speaker 2>loss of their home in many cases, in some cases

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<v Speaker 2>the loss of family members, loved ones.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the dichotomy that everybody predicted money versus no money,

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<v Speaker 1>ease to rebuild versus not easy to rebuild. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing when it comes to having the money to

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<v Speaker 1>rebuild your home or a home or stay in the neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 1>and another when it's the permit process, when the when

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<v Speaker 1>the wheels greased for some and not for others, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when you start getting really skeptical and annoyed well with government, and.

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<v Speaker 2>For decades, very few people just in general, ever have

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with a permitting process for local governments like this,

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<v Speaker 2>and when they do in an emergency situation like this,

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<v Speaker 2>you see how broken the system is. It's not built

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<v Speaker 2>for you to get your life back together. So we'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that at the bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>The story we've been following for you is just a nightmare,

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<v Speaker 1>and it started with just that missing thirteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>boy out of the valley over the weekend. On Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>went to go see his soccer coach we now know

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<v Speaker 1>in Lancaster, took the train out there and did not

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<v Speaker 1>come back. Brother calls the cell phone, The soccer coach

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<v Speaker 1>answer says, the kid's busy. Then dad calls, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the family calls the police and says, the kid has

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<v Speaker 1>not come home.

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<v Speaker 3>There's something amiss here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet the soccer coach, the family will tell you with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that the family trusted, somebody that actually helped the

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<v Speaker 1>family search for the thirteen year old boy. Well, his

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<v Speaker 1>body was discovered in Oxnard along a road on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>and now that soccer coach, Mario Aquino has been charged

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<v Speaker 1>with the murder special circumstances murder.

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<v Speaker 2>Yesterday you mentioned the phone call. The boy's father, Daniel

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<v Speaker 2>said he called the coach after when he was when

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<v Speaker 2>the boy was missing, and the coach had insisted he

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<v Speaker 2>dropped the team off near the family's home. Investigators said

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<v Speaker 2>that they were able to use information from cell phones,

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<v Speaker 2>cell phone towers, and other tracking systems to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>that the suspect did visit the Oxnard area near McGrath

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<v Speaker 2>State Beach in Santa Clara River. A foot search by

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<v Speaker 2>LAPD FBI led to the discovery of the boy's body.

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<v Speaker 2>They've also said that, or at least they're keeping under

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<v Speaker 2>wraps how exactly he died. But we know that the

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<v Speaker 2>charges against this guy include a special circumstance allegation of

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<v Speaker 2>murdered or the commission or attempted commission of ludax with

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<v Speaker 2>a child that would make him eligible for the death penalty.

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<v Speaker 4>The DA has yet to decide on that.

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<v Speaker 1>To make matters worse, this quote unquote soccer coach had

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<v Speaker 1>been investigated by the Sheriff's department last year for what

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<v Speaker 1>well allegations of an unrelated sexual assault. This seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be another kid that's involved. This was a February twenty second,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four incident.

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<v Speaker 3>He was charged last Wednesday with this incident.

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<v Speaker 1>The coach, according to criminal files, says they say that

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<v Speaker 1>took advantage of a position of trust and confidence in

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<v Speaker 1>committing that assault. So you are right if your mind

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<v Speaker 1>has gone to, oh god, how many other kids, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's where everyone's mind has gone to, law enforcement included.

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<v Speaker 1>If this guy was working as a travel soccer coach,

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<v Speaker 1>a youth travel soccer coach, how many other kids, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>from families that don't speak English as well. Was this

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<v Speaker 1>guy taking advantage of not taking advantage of excuse me, assaulting? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's an assault on the whole family, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a family that moved from El Salvador for

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<v Speaker 1>a better life for their kids. This little boy, Oscar

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<v Speaker 1>was ten years old at the time, moved here three

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<v Speaker 1>years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way it comes.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, he's a standout soccer player, very gifted, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>very popular in school, very gifted at soccer.

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<v Speaker 3>Has this coach who ends up killing him, living his

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<v Speaker 3>body in a field.

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<v Speaker 2>There are also some law enforcement sources who have been

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<v Speaker 2>saying that the coach was an immigrant from El Salvador, undocumented.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is one of those stories that's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be making.

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<v Speaker 2>Headlines nationally, nationally as soon as it starts getting some

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<v Speaker 2>amount of speed.

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<v Speaker 1>Because this guy was here illegally. How many kids did

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<v Speaker 1>he victimize while he was here illegally? And under what guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and under what administration's policies.

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<v Speaker 2>And and like you say, taking advantage of other kids

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<v Speaker 2>and families who may have been undocumented because they don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to raise their hand and bring attention to themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Sheriff Luna says that the original case against this guy

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<v Speaker 2>that they investigated but apparently didn't charge, was that he

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<v Speaker 2>had befriended a family there in Silmar. They were allowing

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<v Speaker 2>their teenage son to stay with the coach at his

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<v Speaker 2>residence up in Palmdale, And while they did file a

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<v Speaker 2>criminal report with the Palmdale Sheriff Station alleging sexual abuse

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<v Speaker 2>of the child, the kid was sixteen at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Detectives during that investigation learned that there was yet another

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<v Speaker 2>unrelated child sex abuse case being handled by the Department

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<v Speaker 2>LAPD's Foothill Division that involved this guy. So you had

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<v Speaker 2>at least two other cases that were being investigated with

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<v Speaker 2>this we're reported.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're here illegally, if you don't speak English, what

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<v Speaker 1>are the chances you report something like this?

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<v Speaker 3>You don't, I mean, you don't report it.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of times even if you do, if you

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<v Speaker 1>are here, if you were born here, if you speak English,

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<v Speaker 1>it's unreported. A lot of families feel a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>shame about that, especially if the parents rubber stamp the

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<v Speaker 1>kids spending time with the coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone feels shame everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they seek out therapy for the child or the

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<v Speaker 1>family or what have you. But I bet a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these don't go report it. It's like rape, It's

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<v Speaker 1>like any of these things. You know, there's a degree

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<v Speaker 1>of shame that come with them. What's why the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>are so low from what they truly are. So if

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<v Speaker 1>there are two boys that their families are here illegally

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<v Speaker 1>and they reported this, imagine what this guy is capable

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<v Speaker 1>of or was capable but he did.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea of artificial intelligence being used in conjunction with

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<v Speaker 2>our nuclear power plants. There's one functioning nuclear power plant

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<v Speaker 2>in California and there's a company that wants to use

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<v Speaker 2>AI along with Diablo Canyon, Well, what.

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<v Speaker 3>Could go wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Well we'll talk about what even they say about using

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<v Speaker 2>AI when it comes to nuclear path I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I've kind of my my thought process and AI has

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<v Speaker 1>evolved quite a bit. I'm kind of like humans AI,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the what's the drop off there?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, what's more dangerous?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from

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<v Speaker 5>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 3>Stories. We're following for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's US stocks rising big swings, however, still rock Wall

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<v Speaker 1>Street for a second straight day. It's like the S

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<v Speaker 1>and P five hundred has added one point two percent

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<v Speaker 1>after giving up most of an early four point one

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<v Speaker 1>percent gain. So it's again up and down. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know until the closing bell. Really, we could give

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<v Speaker 1>you updates as the day progresses, but like we saw yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's up, it's down, and you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where the dust is settles until it does.

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<v Speaker 2>Just the Air Force is reversing its ban on including

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<v Speaker 2>preferred pronouns in your email signature. In a news release

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<v Speaker 2>that came out, the Air Force had said it was

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<v Speaker 2>rescinding the earlier directive to cease the use of preferred

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<v Speaker 2>pronouns the he hymn, she heard, ay them whatever, to

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<v Speaker 2>identify your gender, identity and professional communications. All airmen and

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<v Speaker 2>civilian employees may now include their preferred pronouns back in

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<v Speaker 2>their email signature.

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<v Speaker 1>Blocks you know, I heard you start talking, and I

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<v Speaker 1>completely stopped listening once you said the word pronouns. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's not because I am old and refuse to accept change.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just because I honestly know I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 1>confused and I don't have the bandwidth for it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>When you get into pronouns, into policies using pronouns and

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<v Speaker 1>things like email signatures, you lost me, Like, what a

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<v Speaker 1>luxury for anybody to be upsetsed with a policy over

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<v Speaker 1>how you sign your emails? Who's even reading email anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know it's just me that's not reading

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<v Speaker 1>email anymore, but you.

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<v Speaker 2>Never really have who goes to the emails signature to

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<v Speaker 2>be concerned about someone else's exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Why I say it's a luxury.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's where you're looking to be aggrieved, good Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>you have won life.

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<v Speaker 2>We in the great state of California have one nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>power plant that is still up and running. And although

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<v Speaker 2>there have been discussions about decommissioning Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power

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<v Speaker 2>Plant just up along the coast north of San Louis Obispo,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is slated to begin the decommissioning process in

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<v Speaker 2>a few years, it is still going because we still

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<v Speaker 2>use nuclear energy here in the state of California.

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<v Speaker 1>PGNE runs Diablo Canyon, which is very troubling to say

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<v Speaker 1>the least.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they're not going to start any fires with a

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<v Speaker 2>with the nuclear power plant.

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<v Speaker 4>We hope that would be quite no.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is a nuclear power plant, right that is

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<v Speaker 1>run by pg and E. They received some new hardware,

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<v Speaker 1>eight Navidia H one hundreds, which are among the world's

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<v Speaker 1>mightiest graphical processors. Their purpose to power a brand new

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<v Speaker 1>AI tool designed for the nuclear energy industry. Now, this

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<v Speaker 1>is just meant to help workers there at the plant

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<v Speaker 1>go through all these technical reports and regulations millions of

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<v Speaker 1>pages of intricate documents from the Nuclear Regulatory Commission that

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<v Speaker 1>go back decades while they operate and maintain the facility.

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<v Speaker 1>What they are is basically computers to read and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>assuming tell you when you're in compliance, what needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be tweaked if it does, and just to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>everything's in order.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>There was one statistic that I saw from marine Za Zowalik,

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<v Speaker 2>from pg and E Vice president of Business and Technical Services.

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<v Speaker 2>She says, we spend probably fifteen thousand hours a year

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<v Speaker 2>searching through multiple databases that's a full time job for

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<v Speaker 2>three people for an entire more than three people for

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<v Speaker 2>an entire year, working eight hours a day. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>they would do is search these databases. And the hope

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<v Speaker 2>is that these supercomputers and AI would get that stuff

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<v Speaker 2>done in an absolute fraction of the time. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>important to point out that the company itself, this AI

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<v Speaker 2>startup called Atomic Canyon, which works there in San Luis Obispo,

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<v Speaker 2>that even they say, you can put this on the record,

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<v Speaker 2>Trey Lauderdale's the chief executive, the AI guy in Nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>says there is no way in hell I want AI

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<v Speaker 2>running my nuclear power plant right now, and that the

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<v Speaker 2>things that his computers and his company will be doing

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<v Speaker 2>have to do with simple database searches.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, AI, and I'm not simple, but I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It is simple though in the world of AI, we're

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and they don't even here's the thing, they don't

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<v Speaker 4>With a nuclear power plant.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly goes back to the highest math class you ever

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<v Speaker 1>because of the potential exactly. That's kind of where we're

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<v Speaker 1>at with AI right now. Like us dumb dumbs are

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<v Speaker 1>like it makes a song, Oh look, it reads a book.

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<v Speaker 1>It can help me on my college essay. But it

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<v Speaker 3>To think about.

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<v Speaker 2>So Trey Lauderdale again, CEO of this company that put

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<v Speaker 2>this thing together, He said that they are in talks

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<v Speaker 2>with other nuclear facilities around the country as well as

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<v Speaker 2>There's been discussion about that technology where individual neighborhoods may

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<v Speaker 2>for example, and how they would want to start integrating

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<v Speaker 2>the technology from the company into this nuclear space. He

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<v Speaker 2>said he's not the only entrepreneur he's looking at ways

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<v Speaker 2>to use AI into the nuclear energy field. The question

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<v Speaker 2>that has to be asked though, and one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that we have to be careful about, not just

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<v Speaker 4>Do we have?

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<v Speaker 2>What in the I mean the old cliche of the

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<v Speaker 2>computer is out of control and you walk up to

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<v Speaker 4>It's still moving, it's still going.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that kind of a cliche situation is what

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say that this story about AI being used

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<v Speaker 1>at California's Diablo Canyon is probably the only AI story

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<v Speaker 1>we're ever going to be able to wrap our heads around.

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<v Speaker 2>Because all they're doing is looking through records millions and

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<v Speaker 3>This is where we probably tap out.

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<v Speaker 4>That's we've reached the ceiling of our.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, coming up negs. First, homes have begun

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<v Speaker 1>rebuilding after the Palisie Palisades fire, and not a single

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<v Speaker 1>home building permit has been finalized in Altadena.

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<v Speaker 3>A tale of two fires.

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<v Speaker 5>When we return, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on

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<v Speaker 4>Top of the hour.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk more about what's going on with the terrorists,

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<v Speaker 2>but specifically why it is that China is not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be backing down. It's going to take some major

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<v Speaker 2>shift in the thinking of Shi Jinping if he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to down at all to Donald Trump. So you got

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<v Speaker 2>two guys, neither one of them is willing to bow down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a battle of the egos in the political capital,

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<v Speaker 3>We do have good news to tell you about.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about the company Colossal Biosciences before they.

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<v Speaker 3>Try. They're trying to bring back lost species. That's their

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<v Speaker 1>And they say they've genetically engineered wolves with white hair

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<v Speaker 1>and muscular jaws like the dire wolf, the extinct dire wolf.

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<v Speaker 3>They range in age.

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<v Speaker 1>They say the wolf pups from three to six months old.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got the long white hair, they've got the jaws.

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<v Speaker 1>They are much larger than gray wolves. Dire wolves. Their

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<v Speaker 1>closest living relatives today are the gray wolves. This doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that dire wolves are necessarily coming back, but they

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<v Speaker 1>this is what they do. They've previously announced similar projects

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<v Speaker 1>to genetically alter cells from living species to create the

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<v Speaker 1>animals resembling the extinct wooly mammoths, dodos and others.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, that is a big bird. Don't play it. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>do it. I just said it. We don't need to

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<v Speaker 3>redo it. We don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't don't hello, you know whatever that soundboard is, get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Escape. It's a regionalism.

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<v Speaker 4>Escape.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that still a thing? Is the escape button? Does

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<v Speaker 3>it still work on a I hate myself?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you? That is you know, big be.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you done?

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<v Speaker 3>You need to calm down. We were supposed to get

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<v Speaker 3>right into that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, oh, there was a thing in the Palisades. That

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<v Speaker 2>fire was three months ago, yesterday, if you can believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>The fire then started later that night in Alta Dina

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<v Speaker 2>up in the hills above Altadena. And as we've said

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<v Speaker 2>many times, we said it that day and the weeks

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<v Speaker 2>after that, this is a tale of two different, very

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<v Speaker 2>different fires because of the locations the geography won the

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<v Speaker 2>Palisades technically the city of Los Angeles, Alta Dina in

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<v Speaker 1>La Well, and it was a very interesting conversation that,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, we saw play out in real time,

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<v Speaker 1>the boy who cried wolf. This is the real deal.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the same forecast that now Karen Bass, we

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<v Speaker 1>realized got and still chose to leave the country. She's

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of heat for getting the same forecast

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<v Speaker 1>we did where you and I, not mayors of the city,

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<v Speaker 1>said oh man, all hands on deck, this is going

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<v Speaker 3>And it was.

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<v Speaker 1>We also saw play out in real time the reaction

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<v Speaker 3>It was too.

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<v Speaker 1>Big and moving too quickly to get out in front of.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why we saw what we saw in Paradise

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<v Speaker 1>when everyone was trying to get out in one road

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just devastation as people had to run

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<v Speaker 1>from their vehicles. And in real time we saw people say,

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<v Speaker 1>why is this taking so long? With all the money

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<v Speaker 1>that's in the Pacific Palisades, Why is this taking so long?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is there so much devastation? You didn't hear that

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<v Speaker 1>when the fire broke out in Altadena. You didn't hear

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<v Speaker 1>that reaction of where is everything, where's all the resources,

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<v Speaker 1>where's all the water? You just didn't hear that because

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<v Speaker 1>there are two different set of circumstances or expectations. I

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<v Speaker 1>should say when fires break out in La, there just

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<v Speaker 1>are A fire breaks out in the Suppulvita Pass and

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's going to be put out yesterday. You

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<v Speaker 1>know it's going to be put out right away because

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<v Speaker 1>of all the money that's there. A fire breaks out

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<v Speaker 1>to be knocked down right away. And I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>anything about the firefighting resources or how they're directed or used,

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<v Speaker 1>or what the sense of urgency is based on the

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<v Speaker 1>location of a fire.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying those are our reactions.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've lived in LA for any amount of years,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just realism. And now we're seeing that play out

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<v Speaker 1>in real time when it comes to building back and

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<v Speaker 3>Palisades are getting green lights. When it comes to permits.

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<v Speaker 1>In Altadena, not a single home building permit has been finalized.

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<v Speaker 2>There's at least one home on Depaw Street or near

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<v Speaker 2>Depaw Street that has that has begun the process of

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<v Speaker 2>rebuilding and within according to the construction company, they say

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<v Speaker 2>they should have a house done in about ten months,

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<v Speaker 2>which would be a significant milestone, especially and probably faster

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<v Speaker 2>than a lot of people assumed. Now, the blueprint of

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<v Speaker 2>this home is very similar to the blueprint for the

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<v Speaker 2>old home, which they're saying is one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 2>why the permit was approved so quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>Well in the old time new home.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the old home was just finalized two years ago, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's exactly the same.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going through the same thing again, so.

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<v Speaker 2>They can keep you know, if the design is mostly similar,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they're adding things like some minor modifications for

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<v Speaker 2>fire protection. Uh, you know, they're not going to have

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<v Speaker 2>exposed rafter tails, special roof vents for fire zones, all

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<v Speaker 2>of that sort of stuff, new landscaping, all of that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be done to protect the home. So they

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<v Speaker 2>were able to test resbestos back in February, they submit

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<v Speaker 2>their plans to the city. In March. The family opted

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<v Speaker 2>out of the Army Corps Debris. Remember the Army Corps

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<v Speaker 2>of Engineers was going to come in. They opted to

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<v Speaker 2>have their own company clear the lot because they could

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<v Speaker 2>assume that or I think probably rightly so, assume that

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<v Speaker 2>the company would be able to do it quicker than

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<v Speaker 2>the Army Corps of Engineers. Now again that's on the

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<v Speaker 2>palisade side. On the Alta Dina side, you've got people.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, Margo Stuber, one of the victims. She has

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<v Speaker 2>lost her house and she and her architect, Trinidad Campbell,

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<v Speaker 2>submit their plans at the beginning of March to rebuild

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<v Speaker 2>the home, and they were promised by the county that

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<v Speaker 2>there would be a two week turnaround time for a

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<v Speaker 2>first review and then a thirty day plan to issue

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<v Speaker 2>a permit once the application is submitted. The problem is

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<v Speaker 2>three different agencies had to look at that permit, planning,

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<v Speaker 2>the fire and building in safety, and each of those

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<v Speaker 2>agencies took the two to three weeks to review the plan,

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<v Speaker 2>and in the end it meant that there would be

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<v Speaker 2>at least three months before they get the permit, So

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<v Speaker 2>they're still looking at May or June. Before all of this,

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<v Speaker 2>homeowners said they're getting on the phone with the insurance

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<v Speaker 2>or various county departments. Has been like a second job

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<v Speaker 2>for them because they have to live and I should

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<v Speaker 2>say they have to live in the temporary housing, which

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<v Speaker 2>is an arm and a leg. They have to move

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<v Speaker 2>from spot to spot or their couch crashing or spare

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<v Speaker 2>room crashing with friends. They said in La County they

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<v Speaker 2>received one hundred and seventy three zoning reviews and initiated

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<v Speaker 2>the permit process for only twenty three of them. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the issues that I thought Rick Caruso was

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<v Speaker 2>planning on, if you remember his he had offered to

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<v Speaker 2>help out, was that they were going to have or

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<v Speaker 2>at least he proposed the idea of having bringing in

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<v Speaker 2>AI to help sift through this permit planning process so

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<v Speaker 2>that it could raise some red flags and then have

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<v Speaker 2>a human review at in the event that there was

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<v Speaker 2>something that needed to be reviewed. This is exactly the

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<v Speaker 2>This is exactly what people talk about when they say

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<v Speaker 2>that government is broken when you need it the absolute most.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is you know, people may say it, you

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<v Speaker 2>sure you need fire and building in Safety and Planning

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<v Speaker 2>department to all look at each of these things. Hey

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<v Speaker 2>get in the same place at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what, you saw this train moving down

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<v Speaker 1>If you've ever needed a permit for anything, you've needed

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<v Speaker 1>a permit for something or the house, right, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>But I've avoided it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been told how to avoid getting or needing a

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<v Speaker 1>permit for X, Y or z, because it's such a process,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's so much bureaucracy period for like a shed

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<v Speaker 1>in the backyard or whatever, right, something that should be

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<v Speaker 1>not a big deal to build an entire home a course, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be nice to get somebody in there to

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<v Speaker 1>streamline the process. Somebody can just say that's not unnecessary,

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<v Speaker 1>it's unnecessary, or just like pile all the rebuilding of

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<v Speaker 1>the fires into one stack at the permitting office and

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with those separately and differently. But that would

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<v Speaker 1>require somebody like I don't know, Elon Musk to come

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<v Speaker 1>in and just be like, hey, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it the way that you've been doing it government.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to do it my way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be quicker, it's going to be easier,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be cheaper, and we're just going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it this way.

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<v Speaker 3>Because there's too many people.

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<v Speaker 1>In that room, they're like, no, but we've always done

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<v Speaker 1>it this way, and I'm important because I have to

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<v Speaker 1>sign up on it.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's ego involved, there's a lack of creativity, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lack of innovation.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it. Is it better? We didn't get to

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<v Speaker 4>the we for a while, but then what.

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<v Speaker 3>We weren't supposed to revisit that.

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<v Speaker 2>Some intimacy coordinators say they do have jobs. My job

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<v Speaker 2>is a real job. Put your hand there, touch that

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<v Speaker 2>thing there.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you imagine what takes the sex out of a

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<v Speaker 1>sex scene more than somebody coming in and managing it.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 5>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>A bunch of stories that we're following include, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>the fallout more fallout from the tariff discussion out of Washington, DC,

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<v Speaker 2>and when we get into swamp Watch at the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the hour, we'll talk about why it is that

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<v Speaker 2>Si Jinping is not going to back down at least

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't look like it anytime soon. And the dire Wolf

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned this earlier. They've a company has says they've

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<v Speaker 2>brought the dire Wolf back. So cool, they've kind of

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<v Speaker 2>brought back a wolf that was not the dire Wolf.

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<v Speaker 3>It's close. Gary, don't make.

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<v Speaker 1>Me use your Christian name one more time, because I will. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about intimacy coordinators before. It was a reflex

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<v Speaker 1>or results, whatever you want to call it, of the

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<v Speaker 1>me too, movement of actresses feeling like they had been

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<v Speaker 1>taken advantage of on sets for generations, and this was

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<v Speaker 1>a way to kind of bring consent onto the Hollywood set.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody that would come in and say what was right,

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<v Speaker 1>what wasn't right, what was acceptable, ask for said consent

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<v Speaker 1>from the parties present. It just seemed very odd from

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<v Speaker 1>go I can't believe there haven't been more jokes made

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Maybe there have, and I haven't been privy

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<v Speaker 1>to them when it comes to SNL type sort of comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>But the idea of having a sex scene, which is

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<v Speaker 1>already so unsexy when it comes to Hollywood in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of well, the fact that it's fabricated, it's not real.

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<v Speaker 1>It's why that when movies come out where there's a

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<v Speaker 1>leading couple that actually is in love or is in lust,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fun movie to go see because they're not

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<v Speaker 1>faking it most of the time they are, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it's already.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of a weird.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume a very weird, awkward thing to act out.

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<v Speaker 1>You've done sex scenes before in your adult theater.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I saw. I saw at least a little.

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<v Speaker 4>Bit of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Where I held the woman's hand. Yeah, Okay, was that weird?

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<v Speaker 2>I did not have an intimacy course, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>For that, No, But it was an intimate moment that

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<v Speaker 1>lasted about six six minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, relaxed.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>That weird.

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<v Speaker 4>Why were you so offended?

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<v Speaker 3>Because it was weird? It was my wife, it was phony.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, they say that intimacy coordinators insure a s and.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't a believable relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Insures a safe and consent forward environment for the entire

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<v Speaker 2>cast and crew. But the pushback that they're getting I

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<v Speaker 2>think is most interesting because you've got people like Gwyneth Paltrow.

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<v Speaker 2>When this came up, we talked about it. She's in

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<v Speaker 2>a movie with the young Timothy Shallow made Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>she wants to get up in there and she didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want an intimacy coordinator they're telling them or having anything

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<v Speaker 2>to do with it, because she said it was getting

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<v Speaker 2>in the way of what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The another one, Tony Collette, she said, I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>those people who were brought in to make me feel

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<v Speaker 2>more at ease were actually making me feel more anxious.

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<v Speaker 1>And you got to ask yourself, who the hell are

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<v Speaker 1>you to come in and tell me what I feel

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<v Speaker 1>safe for, what I feel comfortable doing. I know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm signing up for. I got the script right here,

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<v Speaker 1>page eighty three. It says, you know, I sticks his

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<v Speaker 1>tongue down my throat.

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<v Speaker 4>You saw Anora, right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Mikey Madison, the lead actress in there, won an award

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<v Speaker 2>for one awards, I should say, for her Best act Fiction.

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<v Speaker 2>He did not have an intimacy coordinator. And from what

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<v Speaker 2>I understand, there's a lot of sex that goes on

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<v Speaker 2>in that movie. Yes, So is it a matter of

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<v Speaker 2>just finding the person who is going to be more

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable with doing it by themselves or because in the event,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just say that Mikey Madison wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a cover your ass job for the studios. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that people bring these people in on set, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of up to the actors.

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<v Speaker 3>And I probably I bet eighty eight point.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine percent of people are like no, no, no, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're there just so the studios can say they were there.

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<v Speaker 2>Alicia Rhodis has been the in house intimacy coordinator for

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<v Speaker 2>HBO and HBO Max for seven years, working on a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of different shows.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, that's the that's when it all happened, right

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<v Speaker 1>seven years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>She says that intimacy coordinators are very new. We're just

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<v Speaker 2>getting the framework of what regulation and standardization looks like

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<v Speaker 2>for the role, which means for the last ten years,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very realistic that actors have had varying experiences with

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<v Speaker 2>these intimacy coordinators, some positive and so.

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<v Speaker 3>What a BS job. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in the event that you had a young actress,

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<v Speaker 2>take Mikey Madison as an example, because she has this

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<v Speaker 2>award winning Oscar Worthy performance, Oscar winning performance, and in

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<v Speaker 2>the event that she felt uncomfortable with it, does she

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<v Speaker 2>win the award? But in the event that there was

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<v Speaker 2>an intimacy coordinator there because she was so concerned about

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<v Speaker 2>what was.

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<v Speaker 3>Going on, taken the role. You don't take the role.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, this isn't the This isn't the fifties or the.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixties where young starlits are forced into contracts and on

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<v Speaker 1>fen fens and not eating for weeks and forced into

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<v Speaker 1>sex roles just because they're kept women at the studios,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's strong women on the set everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think do you think these intimacy coordinators have

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<v Speaker 2>a time limit like.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they can.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think that right now they are a cover

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<v Speaker 1>your own ass job for the studios.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that they are silly. They're silly hearts want

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<v Speaker 3>to make an Uncle Buck reference.

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<v Speaker 2>They also said that they work closely with the costume

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<v Speaker 2>department getting them information they need to source the right

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<v Speaker 2>modesty garments and barriers.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when Brian Williams's daughter did that scene in Girls?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>What are they are they sourcing the saran wrap or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is they used for that?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you not remember that?

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<v Speaker 4>No? I never saw that.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't either, but I heard the story.

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<v Speaker 4>Wasn't you know Dunham in that? Yeah? Okay I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't remember the Alison Williams story? But what Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to be the one to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it with you.

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<v Speaker 4>You know you're going to drop.

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<v Speaker 1>My intimacy coordinator just came in and said, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>having this conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk about China when we come back to Gary

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<v Speaker 3>and Chan.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show. You

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<v Speaker 2>can always hear us live on KFI AM six forty

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<v Speaker 2>nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday, and

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