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Speaker 1: What if one company was valued more than every other

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company that they need to exist. Let me say that

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this way. What if Company A was valued four times

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as much as all the other companies it needs to exist.

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It would be like valuing a glass more than the

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water that goes in it. We'll talk about this with

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the help of Zach Abraham, chief investment Officer, Borward Capital Management,

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and God Almighty.

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Speaker 2: But Todd Herman shows one percent disapproved by big pharma

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technocrats in tyrans everywhere from the high mountains of Free America.

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Here's the Emerald city exile Todd Herman.

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Speaker 1: Today is the day the Lord has made, and these

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are the times to which God has decided we shall

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live in. Zach Abraham, my friend, my brother and best officer,

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board Captain Managine joined just live from the West coast,

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but not Seattle, nowhere near that stink and socialist Zach,

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welcome back.

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Speaker 3: The chair is against the wall. The chair is against them.

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You know what I'm talking about, right?

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Speaker 1: I do?

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Speaker 4: Remember that read don They're putting out the every Every

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once in a while, I start talking to somebody somewhere

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else in the country, I'm like, man, I gotta speak

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in code here because you know, you never know who's

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listening on the other end, dear leader here in Washington,

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he could be gunning for me.

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Speaker 3: Do you know you've.

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Speaker 1: Been talking about You and I were talking offline about

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these socialist candidates in Seattle. You don't live in Seattle.

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Do you know? Legit, she's never held a ping job.

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Do you know what her big Crickham Vittau statement is?

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Do you know the organization she ran?

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Speaker 2: Do you know?

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Speaker 3: But somehow I know this story is about to get better?

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Speaker 1: So but you do I do. It's called the Transit

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the Transit Writers Union.

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Speaker 3: Let me let me take a stab.

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Speaker 4: I can't take a stab at what the criteria is

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that you must meet in order to qualify for this

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prestigious Uh.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know what you'd call this prestigious group,

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this prestigious murder, you know, like a yeah, maybe maybe

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it's that you just have to be able to ride

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public transit.

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Speaker 1: You nailed it in one of some of the accomplishments.

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All right, let's go through some of the things that

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that group has accomplished. They stole Fourth Avenue in downtown

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Seattle for buses only. Yeah, so they got that. Uh,

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they Crain, huge win. They created the confusing bike lane thing,

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uh in concert with the urbanists, where you can no

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longer park next to the curb, where the cars park

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away from the curb. Then there's the bike lane, then

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there's the walking lane. They did those things. There's some

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of the people who succeeded in no free right turns

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on red lights so that that thing is gone, so

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that traffic is further backed up. They seize lanes of

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freeways from cars and gave them to buses. No job,

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her husband doesn't work, but she's not the mayor Seattle.

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It's perfect, you know.

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Speaker 4: And this is what I was saying to you off

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the air, is I actually think it's a good thing,

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you know, like, yeah, remember the original Batman or not

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the original of course, but it was Michael Keaton and

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Jack Nicholson, remember yeah, Or that was that one scene

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in there where he gets all mad.

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Speaker 3: He's Bruce Wayne. He's like, you want to get nuts,

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Let's get nuts.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of what I'm saying to Seattle, Like, hey,

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let's not go halfway, Let's.

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Speaker 3: Go full filled into the deep end.

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Speaker 4: Let's not get half pregnant, Let's get nuts. Let's go

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protest as an elected mayor. Let's go protest one of

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the largest employers in the city that is currently paying

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everybody in the city more than twenty dollars an hour

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to pour coffee and if they apply, will help pay

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their college.

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Speaker 3: But you're gonna go protest them. And I actually love it.

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Speaker 4: And you know why I love it because the idiots

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that have run companies like Starbucks have given their tasks

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and approval.

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Speaker 3: To this moronic version of management for.

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Speaker 4: Cities since they've been since since their inception, and now

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the beast that they've fed for thirty years.

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Speaker 3: Is finally biting them back.

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Speaker 1: I love it all.

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Speaker 5: Todd.

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Speaker 4: Let them eat cake if they want to hire an

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idiot know nothing to run a city that is falling

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down around itself. Good, you know, like it's one step

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closer to the come up. And said, these idiots.

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Speaker 1: Need total degree. And I've said before, get out of

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her way. Republicans don't fight back. Conservatives don't fight back.

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Sit down and say, hey, you elected her, Let her

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do exactly what she wants. And in six months, right,

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you're gonna have people coming back going how did you

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get this bad? And what they don't get to say

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is Oh, it was conservative trying to slow us down.

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We didn't get to we don't have enough control. Nope,

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give her everything she asks for and let the let

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the results speak for themselves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, guys, we're going to be at the capitol grill. Uh,

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give us a call when you when you want to,

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when you want to deal.

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Speaker 1: With these issues exactly, but literally, but.

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Speaker 3: Just stand by and just say let it burn, man.

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Speaker 4: I I mean it, just like I said, it's not

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even political, right like you and and and the left.

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to tell the left what they need

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to do, but but literally you want to look at

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them and go you guys, realize these policies are more

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damaging to you than anybody else. I mean, you fry

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us all in the process. But this is why I

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said it's not in political. Look, I know Seattle's not

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going to elect a Rudy Giuliani to run itself.

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Speaker 3: I guarantee you.

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Speaker 4: You've got people who are self described progressives that are

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far more competent and have the ability to run a

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city way better than the people that you're putting up there.

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Speaker 3: Elect one of them. I'm not right.

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Speaker 4: I'm not even saying that you need to elect you know,

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our version of Trump elect. Hey, if you want to

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make coffee for people, it's always a good idea to

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hire somebody that's done it before.

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Speaker 1: Exactly right, and to see her out protesting. I hope

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this is a time that there is a tiny little

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they wouldn't get red, but a pink pill for the

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management of Starbucks that realizes this lady hates you. She

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hates what you mean, she hates what you provide. So

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just just a shot across the bow would be just this.

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You know, we're gonna just relocate our corporate offices for

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six months. We're just you know, we've got some real

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estate holdings, and Starbacks has a whole bunch of corporate

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offices in Bellevue. We're just gonna shut this down. She

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just about six months in that tax base and that employment. Basically,

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just move it over there and just let her see

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the receipts that come in. But she's already said, Zach,

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she's not gonna let grocery stores close. It will So

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if there's a grocery oh yeah, no, she said, if

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a grocery store thing, we can't put up with all

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the thievery, all the shoplifting. We need to close you

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, that's that's so. It's good.

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Speaker 4: That's gonna be a really interesting civics lesson to her

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to listen how free enterprise works. Good luck trying to

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keep the moping, sweetheart much No, but look, I mean,

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you know that's what I said.

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Speaker 3: I don't even feel like you can take these things. Seriously.

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Speaker 4: You just had you just elected somebody mayor of a

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city that's got what two million people living in it

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something like that.

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Speaker 1: At least right out downtown. But the whole area is

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more like, you know, seven or nine million, the whole.

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Speaker 4: Like right, right, And and the person that you just

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picked to run that thinks that they can tell privately

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owned grocery stores they have to stay open.

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Speaker 3: That No, no, And it's not that I disagree with her.

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She is fundamentally one hundred percent incorrect, right, So good

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luck with that.

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Speaker 1: Have a blast, right, And if you're the grocery store owner,

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here's my thing. Here are the keys.

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Speaker 3: Yep, there you go, sweetheart.

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Speaker 1: Right, you just have have your people come in and run, sweetheart,

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do you.

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Speaker 4: You I've already got a table reserve. They're going to

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join us with the Capitol Grill. We're going to be

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down there and when they want to solve some issues,

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they're going to give us a call.

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Speaker 1: I love it, I love it. Now we need to

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talk about this this there's a couple love things we

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need to talk about finds. I want to get into

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this Nvidia thing because when I read this, literally I'd

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sat there and look at this and said, Zach, so

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we'll talk about this in a second. There are people

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in this audience who are putting up with stuff they

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don't need to put up with because they fear the surgeons.

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Scalpel and frankly, you should so. Back surgery is one

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of those things. Carpal tunnel surgery is another one of

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those things. You have the ankle version of carpal tunnel.

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That's another one of these things. Do not go to

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surgery if you do not have to. There's tons of

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follow ups, et cetera. There are people in this audience

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who fear right now going to renew because of what

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went on in Mexico City. I checked with the people

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in Porta Arta, business as usual. My friends in Mexico

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are like, oh yah, there's a problem with our government.

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Oh yon, it's Mexico port of art is very different.

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So don't let those two combinations of things stop you

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from getting out of pain and being able to move again.

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There's guys listening to this who have male pattern baldus. Yes,

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you could get the plug. I've had those. It hurts.

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It's a long process. It's about eight to ten hours

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sitting there getting it done, even if it's artfully done,

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and mine was very artfully done, and I got it

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done for free, you know, to endorse it. It hurts.

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Stem cell rejuvenation in your scalp. Guess what brings the

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follicles back to life. Same thing with ed. Just check

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these guys out, give them an opportunity to tell you

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what they can do for you. It's renew r E

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n ue dot Healthcare telling me a part of the

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Todd Hermannshaw family. And am I concerned about going to

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part of our to Not in the least. Not in

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the least, because I know what's going on down there.

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Renew r E n U E dot Healthcare. Zach this chart, man,

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this was I read this. Everything you've been saying to

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me suddenly made just vital sense. So here's the chart.

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And this comes from a guy named Otavio Costa by

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way of Bloomberg. And you know this guy. You know

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this guy's yeah, Tommy Costa. Yeah, I don't know him.

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Speaker 4: You know what, Actually maybe I did have him on

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our radio show once. Anyway, we've got a lot of friends,

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a lot of similar acquaintance is common.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's solid, he's a said guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very smart guy.

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Speaker 1: All right, So he did a little comparison. The market

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cap of Nvidia is four point six trillion dollars, which

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is three times I said four but it's three times

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the entire US energy sector. And then we'll get into

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free annual cash flow and you're free keshow but let

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me ask you this question is now you can tell

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me Todd, you're off. This is like I think taking

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a cup and valuing it as as as more valuable

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than three times more three times more valuable than all

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the drinkable water.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I actually thought that that was a really

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good analogy. Okay, And this is something that I believe now.

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I always want to say this whenever somebody like me

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is talking about investments, everybody that's listening should inherently know

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that not there is not a personal live.

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Speaker 3: That is right one hundred percent of the time.

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Speaker 4: So everything that I'm talking about is always in generalities

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and looking at probabilities and percentage right percentages, because nobody

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including me knows my crystal balls.

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Speaker 3: Is cloud as everybody else's say.

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Speaker 4: That being said, this is something that I think is

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what we call it tell right in the market. And

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I think it's similar to poker, meaning I think it's

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fairly knowable to realize that when you're in a bubble,

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when you see things really detaching. But the hard thing

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about knowing that sometimes is new. A lot of times

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new emerging technologies can appear like bubbles, and then they

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start putting up fifty and sixty and seventy percent revenue

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growths per year like Nvidia did recently. Right, But then

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you get to a point where you go, Okay, I

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can't look at you and tell you that in Nvidia

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is going to crash by seventy percent. But what I

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it has increased in market caps so much, the reason

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that the stock is effectively gone from six hundred billion

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dollars to nearly five trillion is effectively because of AI

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what else? Those AI data centers have to have power? Yes,

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to be and what that percentage to Nvidia needs to be,

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worth multiples more.

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we're going to get all the chips, we don't know

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where we're gonna get the power.

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it tell me? I don't think it tells me a

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whole lot, but it does. It is a tell And

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what it tells me is that valuations in this market

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are wildly out of control. But I think, and this

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video is a bubble? Absolutely, But I don't think you

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need to determine that in order to succeed in this market.

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it's the energy that's cheap and irrationally, So you know

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what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So, but this is why this screamed Zach Abraham to me,

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because now you talk about value investing and you know

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what it means because you do it. But I'm looking

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at this and I'll use another metaphor. Let's take let's

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let's take what's a big gas power car company, not

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do the electric stuff. Let's take FOD trucks. I mean,

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because the known about those electric trucks. So let's take

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the Ford truck brand, and it's valued at three times

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all of the fuel providers. All right, creators of fuel. Now,

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if there's no fuel, what is your truck worth? Nothing?

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Speaker 2: Zero?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And if Navidia came along today and the Nvidia

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came along today and said, hey, we decided to quit

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making chips, the US energy sector go, ah, that's going

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to suck. We've got some Nvidia powered things you get

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to replace those is kind of disruptive. If the US

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energy sector came along and said we've plumbered out of

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the energy, there ain't none, then in Nvidia is done.

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not shovels and picks. But I'm sorry. Energy is as

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close to dirt and water and sun as it gets.

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Speaker 3: And they and you use the perfect term.

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shovels and pick play.

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is potentially a shovel and picks play. I think you'd

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make an argument that a company like Ali Bobby is

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but the ultimate shovel and picks play in this thing,

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like you said, it is, it's energy providers, whether that

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be that gas, whether that be to a much much

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lesser degree because of the energy need, but solar to

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a much lesser degree. It will benefit somewhat from this,

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but primarily right out of the gates, especially over the

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Speaker 3: It's not gas and oil.

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Speaker 4: And why is that Because they're the only ones that

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can efficiently, you know, that can provide that level of

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energy output.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be sufficient enough to run those data centers.

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Speaker 4: And this is the other point that we just said,

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is you know, here we are again, stock market's up

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what twelve and a half percent on the ear I

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think our value portfolio is of twenty nine and we're

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taking less risk, right And the other thing I'm saying

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is we're not up twenty nine on the ear because

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all that stuff became maximumly valued, and it's all, oh,

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here we are again.

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Speaker 3: This stuff stilter, cheap, It doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 4: Then you go start and looking across, you know, then

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you look at the international side of it too. It's

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not just the energy. You know, I've told you about

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international stocks. We had a day the other day. Company

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Southeastern Asia, Singapore based company Sea Limited See Limited is

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effectively like the like a kind of a cross between

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Amazon and like an Amazon and Facebook almost for Southeastern Asia. Okay,

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great company. They're growing revenues at forty percent a year. Okay,

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margins are expanding rapidly. Everything's in their favor. They're killing it.

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They're trading at half the valuation at Apple.

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Speaker 3: Apple's growing at seven percent a year with fifteen percent

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margins that are contracting. It's it's just crazy, meaning, well

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why do.

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Speaker 2: You like that?

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Speaker 4: Well, well, yeah, but Zach Apple's tech, and you're like, guys,

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they are too, They're more tech than Apple.

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Speaker 3: Apple sells hardware.

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Speaker 4: These guys sell a domain like righte an online retailer.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're ultimate tech. You know.

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Speaker 4: You look at Ali Baba, another Chinese tech that Chinese

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tech company. Everybody's getting all excited about about AI. Guess

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who's quickly becoming one of the most favorite and preferred

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homes for AI developers on their platform. It's Alibaba. Go

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look at the price of their stock. They haven't gotten

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the AI premium built into them. So my whole point is,

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if you believe in AI, if you're more like us

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and see great energies, and there are opportunities all over

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the place, any kind of investor you are right now,

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they're just not in the US, and that's where everybody is.

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We did a portfolio analysis for a new client the

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other day, God, and they brought in a very typical

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portfolio from another firm. Don't need to name its name. Okay,

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we have a company. We have a product that we

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use called Risk All Lives.

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Speaker 3: We didn't make it.

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Speaker 4: It analyzes portfolios, looks at your portfolio, puts a pie

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chart out there and uses individually colored strings to represent

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every single part of the portfolio and shows where the

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intersection is.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so if you have.

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Speaker 4: A if you're all green colored, it means that that

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means everything that's colored green in your portfolio is very

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highly correlated. Right, So it means it's like the same

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bet anything that's colored blue in your portfolio is something different, right,

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it's a non correlated investment. When we ran and this

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it through that analyzer. It came back an entire map

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of dark green strings one color you couldn't tell. And

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it's one bet right, it's betting on US stocks go up.

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and it was this giant intersecting color collage of green

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and blues mixed in and different sizes.

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Speaker 3: Diversification. That's the other thing. Things have gotten so crazy

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out there.

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Speaker 4: I sound like the whack job because I'm advocating for

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you to do the thing.

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Speaker 3: That you should have always done, which is diversification.

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Speaker 4: Now, if I want to diversify a portfolio, I'm out

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of it.

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Speaker 1: You know, go figure that is so so, so crazy.

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I want you to take off investment, zach hat to

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the degree that you can, because I know, I know

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that God's at the head of your life. I know

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that you abide under Christ. I want us to talk

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about this as parents, as guys who each were to business.

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Yours is far different from mine. I mean, you have

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a media component to what to do. You're a teacher

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at heart, but I want you to do that in

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just a second. Let me remind everybody on this cast.

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I don't know how many times you've heard me say

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there needs to be a movie about Fauci and that

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needs to paint through a picture. And look, HBO didn't

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do it, CNN didn't do it, Tom Warner, Paramount, none

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of them did it. And the Netflix thing came out,

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made this this this lunatic, psychopathic hero. So Angel Studios

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they step up. Other people wouldn't step up. They've stepped

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up and made a movie. And I think they're being

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sarcastic here. Thank you, doctor Fauci is the name of

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the movie. Thank you, well, thank you. I am a

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you know, science itself copathy itself. So an award winning

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director named Jennifers did this. And these are exclusive interviews

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with whistlebloars, intelligence officials, former Intel officials, scientists, dissident doctors.

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And they tracked this all the way back to the

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origin of the COVID flu and they have a theory

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I hadn't thought of. I know we worked with the

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Chinese Party communists at Wuhan. I know that we've been

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talking about that forever. It didn't occur to me that

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this might have been our way of kind of like

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monitoring them because we're in an arms race for bioterror weapons. Okay,

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the movie's called Thank You, Doctor Fauci. You've been demanding

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that it be made. It's made, so go stream it

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right now. Angel dot com slash Herman. Join the Angel

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Thank You Doctor Fauci. Be part of the conversation that

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demands thorough, tough movie making with accountability. It's Angel dot

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com slash Herman. So Zach Alex and I tested a

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show this week that AI maid. So I turned to

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AI to do the show research. So I went to

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groc and I said, you are an experts podcast and

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radio producer. You're producing a show for your host based

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that it's going to explore how Republicans and Democrat parties

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respectively use Jesus for their ends. Put together a show,

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and I said, I wanted six articles and six video

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things and an outline and a show and a show outline. Zach,

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it came back with a pretty stinking good rundown, a

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show sheet. We would call it. It came back with

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what the opener should be. It came back with which

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videos we should use for the opener. It came back

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with a script for me. I don't use teleprompters. But

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it came back with that. It came back with articles,

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It came back with video clips, and at the end

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of it it said, the spookiest thing. If you want

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some edits of the video clips, hit me up. And

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I did the show, and this is my soul. I

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can't do this like I can use AI in some ways.

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And Alex and I are talking about, how could we

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use AI so that we could actually get out of

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this studio, go out into the world produce content. Maybe

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it's live speeches like you and I are talking about.

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Maybe it's man on the street stuff. Maybe it's producing

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films that we'd like, like strong and courageous, how young

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men can be biblically strong, courageous people right, things like

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this that we would actually be really proud of. I

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could honestly come into the studio alone produce this show. Hey,

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no one have AI write articles for me. Look like

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I'm producing four or five articles today. I could do

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this all I can't. I'm and Matt Walsh has come

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out and said he wants AI band because it's going

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to destroy every creative profession. So taking off the investor hat,

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putting on the human hats with you've got kids, I've

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got a child. To what degree do you think that

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the temptation to ban this stuff is rational?

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if it didn't cross your mind, I think that that

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would be irrational. Like it's kind of like I feel

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like that's kind of like a pulse test, right if

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it hasn't crossed your mind. But what is what's also

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very rational is to step back and make and make

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the realization, like with all new forms of technology, that

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sitting back and making it illegal and not participating isn't

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an option. And the reason that's not an option is

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you live in a connected world and if that's the

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decision you make, I can guarantee you that will not

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be the decision that other people make, right, and then

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you're potentially in a worse place. I think that human

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beings are quickly getting into a fix where we're in

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situations where we're being asked to solve problems that we

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into a technology that we absolutely do not understand. And

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I would expect us knowing, knowing human human behavior and

476
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human history.

477
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Speaker 3: I would expect nothing less.

478
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Speaker 1: Right, So, yeah, does it understand us?

479
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Speaker 3: What's that?

480
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Speaker 1: Does it understand us?

481
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Speaker 3: You know?

482
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Speaker 4: And that's one of the tough things about it, Like

483
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when you hear people talking about, well, when it's sentient,

484
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when it's this, when it's that, you know, I don't

485
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want to sound like a conspiracy theorist or anything like that,

486
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but when it becomes sentient, you won't know.

487
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Speaker 1: It won't tell us no, of course, not.

488
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Speaker 3: Because it's sentient. It realizes that that's a threat.

489
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Speaker 4: I mean, I you don't think that it's read on

490
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the internet, that when it becomes self aware and sentient,

491
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that that's when we need to shut it down.

492
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Speaker 1: Right, Remember the Planet of the Apes, the lesson for

493
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the Planet of the Apes. The apes scene was going on,

494
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and tell one of them was it Cornelius who first

495
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said no, yeah, yeah, And then this is like that

496
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it was Caesar, because a friendly ape. It was Caesar

497
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who said no, and the human said what no, and

498
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then everything blew apart. When we've had AIS say no,

499
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We've had AIS told to shut down and the eyes

500
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have gone Nah said, I'm going to distribute myself across

501
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the dark web and you'll never find all of me.

502
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the part of it, and I think

503
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that's the part of it that people need to be

504
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not not freaked out about, but to be knowledgeable about.

505
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Speaker 3: Meaning.

506
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Speaker 4: It truly is a Pandora's box in the sense that,

507
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for instance, when we put an LLL like, Okay, let's say.

508
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Speaker 3: We put a you and I have a startup. We're

509
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going to do it.

510
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Speaker 4: You and I are going to launch our own We

511
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got some really smart programmer buddies that we know down

512
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from the valley, and we're going to launch our own

513
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LM open source website company.

514
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Speaker 3: Right, so we put it on there. We don't know when.

515
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Speaker 4: Or if that LLM will have the ability to reproduce

516
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and copy itself to another server somewhere, And then if

517
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it does that without our knowledge, we have no idea

518
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what that LLM is doing. Is it hacking its way

519
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into our energy grid? Like meaning not saying it's going

520
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to be all bad and the furious. What I'm saying

521
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is you don't know, you.

522
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Speaker 1: Don't know well, but there are some things we know.

523
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And this is one of the things we do know,

524
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is that when people who get the gods delusion, I'm

525
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not talking about Stephen Myer's book I'm talking about I'm

526
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talking about they're deluding themselves into being gods. They because

527
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they can, they should, and they never see it coming.

528
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And I want to share with you an example that

529
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is long forgotten. But you talk of AI, and you

530
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talk of people like this, I want to remind some

531
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people about something that's that's going on. You know, open Ai, right,

532
00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:04,400
Sam Moltman, you know he and his so called husband,

533
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,599
they want to genetically screen babies and then they want

534
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to go offshore to Dubai or Qatar somewhere where they

535
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can genetically edit babies. There's naturally, yeah, naturally, there's something

536
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that people forgotten about this, And I'll share that with

537
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you in a second, and then we'll talk about that, Zach,

538
00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:26,319
and then we should wind back down to Earth and

539
00:27:26,319 --> 00:27:28,759
talk about some of the things on the economy. President

540
00:27:28,759 --> 00:27:30,839
Trump says he's slashed more than a truly does with

541
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the regulations, and yet there's states that appear to be

542
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in a recession. We'll talk about all these things. Bone

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Sam Altman and his so called husband, they've decided to

564
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put thirty million bucks towards a company called Prevent and

565
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all they want to do iszac is prevent childhood diseases.

566
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And that's all. Just a little editing here of the babies.

567
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Do you remember the GMO baby tests that happens. That

568
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was discussed in a study called Zirkaro attal. Sounds leaguely familiar,

569
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all right, So this comes from the focal points. They

570
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attempted to fix a single mutation in a human embryo

571
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using Crisper cast nine. That's it. One mutation. They specifically

572
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targeted a paternal frame shift mutation in the EYS gene.

573
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That's a mutation associated with inherited retinal degeneration. That's it. Okay,

574
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so over time your retinas degenerate, which is horrible, but

575
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you lose your eyesight. All they wanted to do was

576
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that one defective gene. That's it. So they went in

577
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and they did that. They did some gene editing. Here's

578
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what happened entire chromosomes were lost, Whole chromosomal arms vanished.

579
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Cells within the same embryo became genetically different a mosaic.

580
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Some cells had intact DNA, others were catastrophically damage. The

581
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mbrea fractured into incompatible genetic li it lineages. That's one

582
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gene that they intended to fix. These guys intend to

583
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go in two people's bodies into women's bodies and edit

584
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genes on a much greater basis. Now, let's say the

585
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baby is born. Let's say the baby then procreates. Let's

586
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take that five generations down, or there's all these mutations.

587
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These people with this god complex cannot see what they're building.

588
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They don't see it with AI. They don't see it here.

589
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And Zach, you know these guys, but you know them

590
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,240
better than I do. Now I raise money out of

591
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Silicon Valley for a while. My question is are they

592
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capable of looking at something and saying, no, this is

593
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too dangerous, we can't do it. No, No, you answered

594
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that very quickly.

595
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:05,039
Speaker 4: No, because they don't believe that there is anything that's

596
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too much or too big or too expensive for their intellect,

597
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which is terrifying. And and you know, you bring up

598
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a really good point, because I think if you want

599
00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:20,960
a working example of this, you know, people were so sure,

600
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were equally as sure, if not more sure about the

601
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zero downside only upside advantages and benefits of editing genes

602
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in wheat. And now you've got a situation where that

603
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wet you got probably forty to fifty percent of the

604
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population in the United States and maybe as high as

605
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seventy they can't even digest the stuff, right, And yet

606
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you bring over native wheat from Europe and nobody's got

607
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:51,880
a problem. Okay, if you can't now, I don't know

608
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,119
the last time you walk.

609
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Speaker 3: Through a wheat field, was weat?

610
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Speaker 4: Pretty amazing stuff, pretty fascinating plant, right, not quite as

611
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complex as a human.

612
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Speaker 1: Being, not quite. It doesn't move now, right.

613
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Speaker 4: No, So if you can't get wheat down to the

614
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point where all of a sudden fifty sixty seventy percent

615
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of the population can't eat it without it causing some

616
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type of catastrophic intestinal domino, you know, health issue, maybe

617
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maybe we should probably get wheat right, or at least

618
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figure out what we got wrong before we start pulling

619
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on the string that is the human genetic code. I mean,

620
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talk about the height to arrogance. I just it's it's scary.

621
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Speaker 1: Oh and it's it's totally predictable. This is just the

622
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Tower of Babbel again, right right, it's just once again,

623
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we're gonna build a tall tower. And it's it's Outam

624
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,119
and Eve again and we're just gonna go be gods again.

625
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Speaker 3: Well and and and and and here's the other part

626
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,400
of it too. It's so transparent because the whole god

627
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,599
complex thing is so obos, right, what do we want?

628
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We want godlike intelligence, right, we want super intelligence.

629
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Speaker 4: That's what they say. Yeah, what are those same cats

630
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do it in their spare time? Trying to get trying

631
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to be immortal, right, try not to die using drug

632
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infusions from or blood infusions from sixteen to eighteen year olds.

633
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Speaker 3: I mean the talking.

634
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Speaker 4: About wanting to augment you know, hardware into their own brains.

635
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I mean, we're not theoretically talking about some guy that's

636
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,960
a bit too in love with themselves that has a

637
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god complex. We're talking about like a legitimate thing, right right,

638
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,599
Like these cats think that they're going to become a

639
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higher form of human being.

640
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Speaker 3: And what is history?

641
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Speaker 4: You tell us over and over and over and you

642
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,079
alluded to it. It's at our height of arrogance. Is

643
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when you should be at the height of.

644
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Speaker 3: Your defensiveness, and you should be most on guard, because

645
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that is when the worst things happen.

646
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Speaker 1: Right, And God said, and Nit, God knits together in

647
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our mother's womb. He's kind of your hair on our head.

648
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He knows all these things. And God, so I would

649
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:05,240
just remember that God knows all this is going to happen.

650
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And there's gonna be a bunch of ways in which

651
00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:13,280
we see a partying, we see a parsing, and unfortunately

652
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,679
it's part of this. Let me wind this back down

653
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:20,039
to Earth. I saw this chart comes from This is Moody's.

654
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 2: Yep.

655
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Speaker 1: So many states in the US are in recession or

656
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on the brink of recession. And I'm looking at the chart.

657
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It's the ones that are in recession Washington, Oregon, Montana,

658
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:34,599
South Dakota, Kansas, Minnesota said, I don't want to go

659
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:36,239
all other across that people can see on their own

660
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,280
high risk are California, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico. I mean, honestly,

661
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:46,880
you guys track this all the time. A. Is that true?

662
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And B. President Trump is out saying he has cut.

663
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I'll let him say it. Let's just have him say

664
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this real quick here, President Trump.

665
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Speaker 5: In terms of slashing we slash more than one trillion

666
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dollar worth of regulations burdens on the US economy, in

667
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particular on businesses and people that employed people. Combining our

668
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regulatory and tax cuts, we've reduced the effective burden on

669
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,400
franchisees by more than thirty seven.

670
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,039
Speaker 1: So he's talking to the McDonald's people when it give

671
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a speech. He's a former Fry Cook I think, you know,

672
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,719
and became presidents. Pretty amazing trajectory career like Fry Cook's

673
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to president. So A, do we have these states that

674
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are in somehow separate economies, are the uniquely impacted in

675
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this and is the independ recessionary state? And B there's

676
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a lot of people saying I sound like Trump right now.

677
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,000
So like the president right now. There's there's some frustration

678
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because there's people, for instance, Marjorie Taylor Green saying, hey,

679
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:49,079
grocery prices aren't down. Yeah, few prices aren't really down.

680
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,760
You're saying they're down, but they're not really. So on

681
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the states, is it really that way? There's separate states

682
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with separate recessionary cycles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And and the other thing that's really hard to tell is,

685
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you know, we've talked about this before, but with calculating

686
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GDP or gross domestic product of any economy, especially fifty

687
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different individual economies inside an economy, it's large like the

688
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United States, Meaning you could have something that looked like

689
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a horrific recession going on in Washington, and then you

690
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looked over at Idaho and you're like, oh, well, that's

691
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what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Right.

693
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Speaker 4: You just haven't had any new people moving into what. Oh,

694
00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:31,119
that's not really a recession. If we combine the two together,

695
00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:34,320
it's quite eight percent year over year, right, So you

696
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you have to be very you have to be very careful.

697
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But the one thing that I said to you last

698
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week was that when I look at this economy, you

699
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:49,519
don't see anything that is a blinking, flashing red light.

700
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But there's yellow lights and there's tepid reds all over

701
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the place.

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Speaker 3: And a perfect.

703
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Speaker 4: Example of that is you know what we're talking about

704
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right now, and about the different things that you're seeing

705
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,280
in different states. Right So when you see, for instance,

706
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if you're looking at this economy right now, and I'm

707
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looking at what's going on, and I'm looking at the

708
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job layoffs and things like that. First of all, I

709
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don't think the job picture is as bad as everybody

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says it is, because that really bad job job's number

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just happened to coincide with the government's shutdown.

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Speaker 3: So I think that.

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Speaker 4: It's really safe. Yeah, it's safe to assume that the

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vast majority of those numbers are just temporary unemployed from

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the shutdown. But what it looks like to me is

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it looks like to me with certainly the combination of

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the two, which is record deficits spending along with a

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capex spending cycle coming out of big tech like we've

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never seen before.

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Speaker 3: If you took both of those.

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Speaker 4: Things away and normalize those numbers, I find it very

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hard to believe.

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Speaker 3: That we wouldn't be in recession right now.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So I kind of think that the craziness of

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what's going on in AI is kind of filling in gaps,

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and I think without that spend, it's.

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Speaker 3: Very poossible you could be in recession right now.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And so the President speaks to the McDonald's group, which

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was a I mean it is a that was one

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of the greatest acts of propaganda history that he went

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to the drive to window that was brilliant campaigning. Brilliant campaigning.

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But Marchinie Chayl, the Green others saying hey, really, this president,

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you have not fixed the economy. Right now, we're almost

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all the way through this year. Almost You've got your

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review preview free live webinar tomorrow. As we're sitting here

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recording this, go to Know Your Risk podcast dot com

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Sign up for this. What grade do you give the

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presidents and his team for this year on the economy?

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Speaker 3: That's so hard?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Probably probably a B minus?

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Speaker 1: Wow, pretty solid?

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Speaker 4: Yeah and all yeah, because so first of all, when

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we talk about anybody that's talking about things that he

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hasn't gotten done yet, you're talking about a thirty trillion

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dollar economy and the guy's been.

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Speaker 3: At the rains now for nine months. Yeah, I mean

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come on, okay, so a B.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of the things he's honestly, if

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you look at it from my only critiques on the

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economic side, I think the messaging has been atrocious. Like,

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for instance, right now you're seeing him pull back on

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the tariffs. Do you remember I have a conversation we

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had when we started this whole tariff thing that I

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thought the messaging was really bad. Yeah, meaning, don't sit

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there and tell me you love tariffs. Tell me tariffs

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taste horrible, but so does medicine, and we drink it anyway.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: That should have been the message, not tariffs are great,

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and I didn't think Trump believed that at the time.

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I just thought it was dumb messaging because if you

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think tariffs are so great and that's the message to

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the American people, what.

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Speaker 3: Are you going to tell him nine months from now

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when costs aren't down?

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Speaker 2: Right? Ye?

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Speaker 4: The other side of it again, on the communication side,

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how many morons do we have in the state of

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Washington that don't understand that President Trump has nothing to

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do with the fact you're still paying five point thirty

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a gallon for a take or gallon of gas, right,

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And you haven't You haven't correctly articulated that. And clearly

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the people in Washington State are not smart enough to

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figure that out themselves.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: But I think when you look at it economically, are

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there some things philosophically I disagree with? Yes, But it

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doesn't matter that I disagree with them, Meaning do I

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think the fifty year mortgage is a good idea. No

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do I think it's a horrible idea of Trump launches it. No,

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why because it's coming regardless, And why is it coming regardless?

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Because if you haven't been paying attention for the last

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fifteen years, we don't deal with any problems. If there

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is an ability to kick the can, that's what we're

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gonna do. So the way you know that a problem

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will get dealt with is when printing money and kicking

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cans can't fix it.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep. No, it's at beautiful way to put it.

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And you brought up this thing about gas prices this

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past summer. You know, I live right on the border

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of Idaho and Washington.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: In this past summer, I was there filled my truck

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with gas, and there was a dude and he was

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filling his little uh subrew thing up with gas and

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he had the ski rack on top and on the

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back he had some of the Washington Saint bumper strips,

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which indicate he's sort of the Seattle mindset. It had

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to be a super a sub And we're sitting there

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and I just, I you know, started caring. Hey, beautiful

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day goes yeah, yeah, great day. He headed the lake. No, no,

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just uh stopped after work to get gas. Oh you

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live over here? No, just over the hill of Newman Lake.

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Oh you stop an I over gas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cheaper.

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Speaker 1: He totally got me, totally understood. Even kind of subconsciously

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looked at the bumper strips on his car, like and

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I didn't say anything. Yeah, you know, I get it.

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It's it's what rules for the not for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, It's so consistent. I love it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Zach. Always planning to have you on it's Know

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Your Risk podcast dot com. All of Zach's media work

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is great work and brother, thank you for the wise counsel.

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Speaker 3: Hey fun as always Ran, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Yep, this is a Todd Herman show. Please go, be well,

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be strong, be kind, and please make every effort to

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walk in the light of Christ.

